The Magnus Archives - MAG Retrospective - Editors' Commentary

Episode Date: July 29, 2021

It's the Editor's turn! Some of The Magnus Archives editors, Annie, Elizabeth and Nico sit down to listen to a selection of their favourite editing moments from the show.Content WarningsExplicit languageSpoilers for all of The Magnus ArchivesHospitalsPhysical violence & death (inc. SFX)Discussions of: COVID-19 pandemicMentions of: mass death, illness, food, knives, spiders & cobwebs, falling & - heightsSFX: distorted voices & static, screaming, body transformationThank you to all our Patrons for your continued supportIf you'd like to join them, visit www.patreon.com/rustyquill.Featuring Annie Fitch, Elizabeth Moffatt, Nico Vettese & Lowri Ann DaviesEdited this week by Nico Vettese and Jeffrey Nils GardnerProduced by Lowri Ann DaviesCheck out our merchandise available at https://www.redbubble.com/people/RustyQuill/shop and https://www.teepublic.com/stores/rusty-quill.You can subscribe to this podcast using your podcast software of choice, or by visiting www.rustyquill.com/subscribePlease rate and review on your software of choice, it really helps us to spread the podcast to new listeners, so share the fear.Join our community:WEBSITE: rustyquill.comFACEBOOK: facebook.com/therustyquillTWITTER: @therustyquillREDDIT: reddit.com/r/RustyQuillEMAIL: [e-mail] Magnus Archives is a podcast distributed by Rusty Quill Ltd. and licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Sharealike 4.0 International Licence Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Yes, hello. I'm Annie Fitch. I was a vocal editor for Magnus starting from the end of season four and running all the way through season five. It's Elizabeth here, editor, I guess, starting from season two. And then, of course, Visionary and Dreamweaver from season five onwards. Yes. And I'm the Gremlin, the other vocal editor editor and i took up around 166 that's season five right yeah and we're still making you do vocal cut edits you're welcome nico i don't want to leave this is my home now yeah so what we're doing here is i mean you probably gathered from the title we're going to be listening to some episodes

that these people have edited and just going to be chatting about them. I'm going to be taking a backseat because I didn't edit them, but I just wanted to be involved. Are we all ready to listen to some tracks? Sure. Oh yeah.

Trip down memory lane fuck yes opening with it this was my first episode that I ever edited what is this this is 154 bloody mary oh right

hello again Bloody Mary Oh, right Hello, again Sorry pal, I have a false alarm this time Oh, unless Peter Look, Peter John God, don't do that Sorry, I just

It's fine You just surprised me. Jesus, are you all right? I just feel like I have to say that Annie is pulling some really nostalgic faces. I can't week. Hungry, I guess, sort of. Did you say this is your first day, Dad? Sticking to old statements.

Thank you for your little intervention, by the way. This is an episode with two swears in it. What the hey? In the bloopers for this one, Alex did a little jingle about how we met our quota for season four, and maybe season five. Has that made it into any of the blooper reels? I feel like it should.

The problem is that the song also involved the violent act that is described at the end of this episode as the way to quit the archive. And I think Alex felt weird singing about that and putting that out on a blooper. I think that was the final verdict on it. Oh, that's very fair. This one in particular, I have been itching to talk about since I edited it as my first edit. Because I had so much fun specifically with the take selection in this conversation between John and Martin.

Because Alex had, you know, there's like four takes of this. And Alex did a variety of different kind of like emotional perspectives on it. And I got to cherry pick almost line by line the ones that made him the most like cruel to John. that made him the most cruel to John. I really wanted to mess with people where if they really tried to listen to the detail, all of Alex's lines after the reveal are him being a little bit deliberately twisting the knife or just being mean about stuff,

which I felt really fun to do that as the first edit. I feel like that's so bold as well for your first edit i love it well because i mean one of the things when alex trained me was he was like if i put a thing in the notes take selection do the one i say other than that pick whatever you know make an executive decision and pick whatever you think sounds good because you know as a vocal editor you're supposed to be like somewhat in control of that to whatever degree it's one of like the benefits of doing most of the vocal cuts during lockdown is that there's no mic bleed right so what i imagine beforehand you're kind of confined to their reactions you now have like you can make anything react off

anything and make the length longer or shorter it was incredibly daunting at the start but by the end of it it's like aha yeah i'm gonna make him incredibly awkward yeah well i mean even in this one this was pre-lockdown but johnny and alex just talk so quietly when they're in studio that there was almost no bleed anyway so it's right from this point onward is where i was very deliberately trying to be like where's alex being the most mean yeah because some of them he was like really sad or like heartbroken or there was even a take where he was like he did like the end of it as like a more sympathetic type thing and i was like none of that martin's not being nice

yeah well i think martin as a character always understood their relationship better than john did yeah i think john always lies to himself a little bit about how he actually feels about things so yeah i think like that ties back to my being part web or was chosen by the web at one point i think the funniest thing about martin editing martin is that so much of him is everything he says outside the lines so like all the stutters and the cracks and like the sighing and i've always adored that the most about martin like i never grew tired of editing martin at all he's all inflection that alex you did the solo martin episode as well oh god yeah i put that in a blooper reel somewhere where alex just lost the plot by the end of that.

Is he here? Oh, yes. Up ahead. Ah, this is a Nico choice, right? Mmm. The amount of takes Alex did for that whistle. I hate it. I really hate this. See, what you can hear in the background there is a water feature,

one of those bamboo ducking water things. I can't remember what they're called. And what I really wanted to put in, aside from that, is I thought Jared Hopworth could have been a chicken fancier. That was the dream. A chicken fancier. I think so. I think he absolutely would have been a chicken fancier. That was the dream. A chicken fancier? I think so. I think he absolutely would have been a chicken fancier in the apocalypse.

I really feel that fear. Thank God. Alex wouldn't let me, though. I did ask. So unreasonable. It was. Jared Hopworth is like one of the fan favourites for like

monster avatars and whatnot but more than that like the set up for being just like a garden of well flesh I was waiting to hear the soundscape for it because the soundscape just like it nails it yeah it's horrible in the best way

I always had a hard time with Hopworth I always had a hard time with Hopworth. I always had a hard time with Jared because the first time he's voiced, I mostly listen to the show on headphones at work, and I work at a theme park, so it's quite loud where I am most of the time, which meant that this pitch-down Alex voice in headphones with other noise going on, nearly unintelligible.

It's not that it's not clear and everything, it's just that it's so low that it blends into the sort of general crowd hum. Well, the first one is in the hallways and it has that echo and I think if you add the echo in it, you've got a little bit more muffling with it. Yeah. But also Alex did about 10 different takes of like the whistling of Warnock because

he said in the recording like he knew this is going to be really hard to understand because it's jared so he tried his normal voice then his cockney voice and then like a ill alex and he actually was ill that day as well so he started off kind of fresh and his voice just deteriorated he kind of hit a wall and it was just like oh croaky horrible. If I recall correctly, I think he recorded this the day before he was supposed to be recording another just like normal Martin scene and then couldn't do the Martin or at least either couldn't do it or like at the start was like, it's all right, my voice will come back. Are you sure? We need to start now.

I vaguely knew who Jared was back then, but it's like I really wanted to know how we do half the monster voices and whatnot and what wizardry via the plugins and things we do. So I was really curious about Jared. And obviously it's like we pitch it down and whatnot, but I was wondering how much was Alex and how much was the effects? It's very much based on, I think think the lowest you can get from the actor and then you start pitching it down and potentially chorusing it or something else on top. But that

was an Alex special. He had designed that before I started doing the sound effects. You know, I started that in season five. So some of the stuff was always past him because it was like, well, you did it the first time you know what you did tell me what you did my favorite thing for uh daisy staff fay is that somebody got them to record just animal noises so there's like there's just a recording of them making like all these growls and like wolf monster beast sounds so good at that yeah we had some of that and then um there was a really good sort of bear eating kind of noise that someone else had made as well.

So there's about three different things that was used for Daisy to make her more monstrous. Right, let's get on with it then. Can you hear that wind? That wind sounds so nice. Is this one of your choices, Elizabeth? Oh, it's just, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. But I'm just like, it's so hot today. Yeah, wouldn't it be nice?

Would it be worse? I thought you were like, do you hear that, Sandra? God, it's good. Worse, it got worse, worse. Might it be blight? Hello? Pleasure, yes, hello. I am Dr Do, Jane. Welcome into my hospital, Inspector. Inspector?

You have come here to over-observe, yes? To Inspector. I... I suppose so, yes. Then follow. Let us tour our well-being centre. Keep your screams inside if you want to be polite. Right. The performer for Dr. Doe. So good. Just so much fun to edit. So much fun.

Well, even making them sort of more monstrance, it was actually like just a slight, you know, tweak to... Don't need to do much to it, huh? Yeah, it was just like same pacing, just the performance was so good. It was a fun performance. This one was fun to edit too because I got sort of a little bit of everything fun. I got

Scared Martin. I got a very stock John statement that was interesting and gross and then Dr. Doe was so easy to edit. And then I also got to do Breakin'. Mabel Syrup was the actor for Dr. Doe. That was it. Yeah, she was great.

So good. It was one of the ones I remember being fun to do the SFX for because, yeah, I mean, I just went hell for leather in terms of making it really like sores, you know, band sores. To give it that comparison to the other hospital, which had been much more about psychological kind of abuse in hospitals, whereas this was like quite physical abuse. But that meant you got to find loads of like nice sounds for that.

And also I got to hand off to Alex, I think, 22 layers of audio. Oh, wow. I remember at the time he was like, there's no way you need this many layers. And he got to the end of it and he's like, oh, yeah, okay. This is the one I remember most clearly being on the RQO early access channel at the time it uploaded and just watching this sort of fur of people

rolling in the live comments as it goes and like really hammering down and everyone was just like because i remember i was actually out at a restaurant picking up breakfast while people were listening to it and i'm just scrolling on my phone every like third comment was like oh god this soundscape why oh i don't like this there was chanting of knife wife a scissor wife or something oh yeah knife wife was my one of my favorite terms that came out of the show knife wife i'm so proud of this but that you just like this is the right thing to do and like alex was like is it oh yes it is i think because initially i'm like can i go really organic and he's like i don't know and then i'm like can i I go really organic? And he's like, I don't know. And then I'm like, can I make her out of knives?

And he was like, no. I was like, maybe I just will anyway. I think she kind of works. It is interesting to think then of the evolution of those anatomy students is that some of them were like, I created a heart and I created blood flow and everything else. And now I've just inserted knives into all of me. That's how I live my life.

There was a lot of really interesting Easter eggs in this episode too, because that's one of them that this is like an anatomy student, but it's never really directly referenced. There's also, I remember when they were doing notes, there's a few sentences that are very grammatically weird that come out of Dr. Doe doe and there was a lot in the recording of like can we make that weirder can we make that a little bit more uncomfortable so like at the beginning you heard the you're here to inspector thing and alex was very much like no that is not an error don't correct it say that because this is a person who's just slightly off speaking just slightly wrong and it just added the air of creepiness even more to it.

It's a really funny episode. I think that's one of my favourites. Now, set it back. Try to look intentional. What does that mean? They're going to expect a suitable, elaborate scene when they arrive. Monstrous

to blow. I'd hate to disappoint them. Right. So were you thinking something like this or... My apologies for the inconvenience, but appearances are everything, Martin. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to change into something more suitable. It is so very important to prime your audience. Annabelle Kane. Hello, John. That's zero. Calm down, John. That's Sarah.

Calm down, Martin. You wouldn't want to... I love that we're all just listening. Well, it's just such a good scene. It feels so long ago, and yet also feels like no time has passed at the same time, because 197, for me at least, was the longest one to edit just because there were so many different reactions going off after over everyone we had to do two different takes because

we didn't know how we were going to position them in the room so there's some with like the shouting over as if it's a huge echoey chamber and then there's other ones where we made it sound like they're all really close to each other elizabeth you did so much prep for this episode yeah like so much i knew that the spider area like the giant web and obviously the end scene with the panopticon kind of thing they were sort of things that i was had my ear out for the background kind of like what would the background be they need to be kind of different i think it was like the funnest background in that. It's very staticky. It's very much the tape noises and to me, like little skittering spider noises.

Yeah, I've got a really great sort of visual for that. And I think what I also remember as I was editing it was like, oh my God, Johnny set this up, that we knew that you could make these webs out of tape when we had that episode, the one about the filmmaker. All of this had been prepped in our head seasons ago that a web made of tape, and partly made of tape, was totally a thing.

It's one of those moments where I just love the craft that he put into it. I think just those little things. I recently started my first re-listen-through from the beginning in a very long time because I'm introducing some of my day job co-workers to the show. Getting through the first

Hilltop Road episode, the one with Ivo Lensig, where he pulls down the tree and everything. I know that he didn't that the plan for the end at that point changed a couple times from where he was. That's the first 10 episodes. So it wasn't really quite nailed down then. He just knew some things about it. But he hit so many different beats. That one episode singularly lays out at least one episode in

all of the remaining seasons to come. There's at least one thing that is about things mentioned in that episode, including some of the stuff that's happening in this one. It's very, very interesting to listen back to because like you said, it's just the Hilltop Road and the web had just so much setup poured into it and just so well, just little bits here and there, putting it together the whole show up to this point. I think I was silly because I missed, you know, there's the episode I think of the cleaner who goes basically into another dimension. And for some reason in my brain, it

never dawned on me that that's what had happened. And I was like, you know, she's missing all these people, it doesn't look quite right. And in my brain I was like, oh, it's just a fair thing that's happening. No, she's now slipped into this alternative universe. Oh. Oh, Christ, what now?

Sorry, I... Oh, this is another of my favourites. Couldn't have made a statement before we got on the ladder. That's not how it works. Fine. I'm out then. You come in, Martin. So my choice is to jump off a cliff or cling to it while John does a statement and then jump off

it yeah right yes say fine okay oh alex acting again on three one i love the look at laurie's face right now she's freaking out out. Or just go then. I remember listening to this first and being like, oh my God, I just felt every one of those jumps off the cliff. Yeah. Frank absolutely murders this episode. Down and down and down again. Run after run after run to run down.

I picture Frank to react that way regardless if they will be zero or not anyway. Exactly. I mean, that is kind of true as well, yeah. So this was my last episode that I edited. My first 154, my last is this one, 198. And I was actually very, very excited about that for a couple of reasons

because this is the final John statement of the show, kind of, because I don't really count the monologue in 200. I mean, it sort of is, but this is the last, like, just vanilla statement. This is just a statement. And it's also, I was always, my favorite power was always the Vast, and so ending the vanilla statements of the show on the Vast made me happy. And yeah, just like the bit where they're on the ladder there and they all go from these you know their normal magnus takes where

they're all close to the mic and very quiet and kind of fried out and everything just being like yeah yeah the ladder yeah you know like way back and yelling from the mic it was fun and again just frank slayed every part of this episode that they were doing it was so good in my brain i was like the thing that i had a little question about that i answered fairly quickly was actually where is the tape player apparently it lives with john but importantly john doesn't take a backpack to hilltop road he is not a guy who brings a backpack along martin clearly does martin loses the backpack yeah at the web there's no more backpacks guys they're walking back without backpacks guys like they're

walking back without backpacks so i'm like where is the tape player is it like you know kind of visualizing that and you're like well i guess it's just attached to john some way which means that when of course he jumps the tape player's going with him which meant that you got you know i got to do that great skydiving wind effect as he's heading down which i really enjoyed i always picture um martin's backpack to be like sam and frodo and lord of the rings just have like a little cup hanging off and everything that jump of john that's one of my favorite like tape clicks in the whole series is he goes well i guess that's it jumps and then you hear click there's that like nice fade in click it's like yes sounds so good

and then click oh and it was so weird because then after this episode after editing this episode I did the math and I vocal cut exactly 10% of this show of the actual core 200 episodes I had exactly 20 vocal cuts done

this was the 20th so that was kind of nice. That sounds so neat. I like to think that, Elizabeth, didn't we remind Johnny? Am I misremembering that? I think what happened was he had said something that the episode was going to be set somewhere and we were like, oh no, it's listed as

this in the spreadsheet. And he was, oh yes, okay, it's going to be like this. It's going to be like a ladder. And then I remember at the time we were joking oh well you know like we should make them jump just jump off the cliff he was like i mean he might have thought of it anyway but i like to think that you know definitely yes look john as fun as all this melodrama is, enough is enough. We both know that you don't have it in you. That was for Sasha. John, wait for Tim.

Please, John. And all the others. Please, John. I don't want to die. Neither did they. But no one escapes at the end. And... Ah, Ben.

Got to add the really unrealistic knifing sound you never hear a knife sound when you're being knifed listeners you may take great satisfaction in knowing that Alex made Ben die again and again and again

and again sitting in on this recording was great like he was great. Like, he was great every time, but it was... Burning, retching on the smog. Hide, hide, hide. It is not real, but still it comes falling through the pinch-black dark. That little bit at the end where John gets control-possessed,

what have you, I don't know the right technical term, Johnny's first take was pretty much spot on. I'm assuming it's because he probably rehearsed that so many times off recording, off camera and whatnot. I don't know. I mean, if he did, he did it secretly. Yeah. Because he recorded almost all of the statements for season five

without a director, just by himself. I'm not sure if he did for the last one. I i remember asking if he wanted alex for that last one i think he did it by himself he did get quite good at doing the statements by himself his monologue statements the way that they progressed through at home recordings from a vocal editor perspective was really dramatic between when he was first at home just going well we'll see how this goes to like you know by the time we did 198 it was like recording started hey it's johnny recording the statement for 198 you know the drill reading everything twice go i think he thought and was right about not needing necessarily another set of ears on it because he

would just do it twice and give these little variations in there. There was always something usable. I'm getting sucked into the jungle? Question mark, Elizabeth? The soundscape for this statement is just magnificent. Yeah, freaking awesome. As I think I've said it before, it's the first one where I actually get to do something

that sounds a little bit beautiful rather than just supposed to be like basically a bit awful. Yeah. Because Salaces is, it's a country house, but there's only very quiet amount of birds. Yeah, I really enjoyed the statement part of this. The thing that really struck me earlier with this bit was actually, I remember asking Alex whether Elias, because I remember the death scene for Elias was quite long. And it was as long as there basically but when you get it without any like sound effects behind it it's just like

Ben going I do remember like going back to Alex and going is this actually like do you want such a long death and he's like yep because I yeah i was like it's a little bit melodramatic and i'm like i guess in hindsight i mean it is the final death scene so yeah and then he says i think the last words are supposed to be good luck but he says it in such a way that it's like i didn't even pick up until i read the transcript that was the thing because like ben did so many takes where you could hear it and alex said and it's like okay just give me one where you people can't understand what you're saying yeah and then that's the one alex wanted it's a difficult episode we've got the elias death at the start then we've got you know the whole thing where john needs to is he transformed not quite like but

there is some kind of power thing that happens, right? What is he? He says he becomes the pupil or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. He's never had an effect applied to him other than static for when he's doing a bit of magicalness. So then it was like, well, how much do you apply an effect to him post becoming the pupil? Don't think I added much. I think there was just a little bit of chorusing on little bits.

Then goes into that statement, which was completely different from what we'd done previously right then we destroy the panopticon and then we go to an entirely different scene so with an entirely different emotional energy it's pretty packed episode for probably like 22 minutes or something like it was very much like a hot seat almost thing because like the first few scenes are so rapidly done i mean yes the death of elias that's very shatner-esque and that takes him forever to die but apart from that you have that happen then you have john tell rosie just to go away so then rosie goes away and it's like oh hi hannah first time editing you okay bye hannah never editing you again okay bye then it's oh god that scene with Martin just telling John off to

no end and I put in I used to take Alex as wanted but I took all the voice cracks out of every take then you got the John monologue slash statement and then right at the very end is just the survivors see it was just like do do do do do do do do do do yeah my favorite memory of 200 was And then right at the very end, there's just the survivors. See, it was just like... Yeah.

My favorite memory of 200 was all of the final scripts dropped a few weeks before the recordings. All the final scripts got uploaded, and it was like 3.30, 4 o'clock in the morning over here. I just couldn't sleep. I was just having insomnia. And I saw the ping that the scripts dropped, and then I immediately pinged Nico on Teams it was like Nico 200 dropped read it with me

I love that to me that is like I would have been like oh right I got the scripts right I just need to let people know and like not really realizing that it's such a big thing just be like yeah 200's there the circle people who knows what happens just grows bigger because it starts off with Johnny Nights and gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And me and Annie were just like, who else can we talk to? Who cares? Because you don't listen to it. And Elizabeth was super busy doing soundscaping.

So it's just me and Annie in the DM just go like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. I knew where we were going to, but I'd never really questioned exactly how the story was going to end. Although I could tell because I knew we were going to the tunnels, I knew we were going to the Panopticon, but then to Hilltop Road and then back to the Panopticon.

But I didn't push from Johnny or Alex exactly how it was going to end. So my first knowledge was because, yeah, I didn't go to the scripts because I was so busy doing, normally doing the edits that were coming up that my first thing would be listening to the vocal cut that I got sent and being like, that's what happens. And I remember that happening when I did the vocal cut for 160 and like, you know, the world ending and like, know the world ending and like you know I'm listening through I'm making you know because I used to listen through and make sort of small cuts as I'm listening through the first time to just get rid of stuff I knew that we weren't using

and then getting towards the end I'm realizing what was about to happen and just like messaging Johnny and being like I can't believe you did this. A thing to know as well about the pandemic and whatnot is that we were asking for a lot of pickups, specifically from Johnny at the start. And very quickly it went from, I don't know how to DM Johnny. Johnny's like, he plays John and he's the writer and he's Johnny. And then very, very quickly it's like, Johnny, answer your DMs. I need you to be dramatic for the sentence again please thank you

you get quite warmed and normal to him very very quickly he's all right isn't he he's more likely to say sorry for not getting onto something you know straight away it'd be like how dare you contact me how dare you disturb me back to the editing dungeon. I have enjoyed this so, so much. Thank you, everyone. That was very fun. I liked it.

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