The Magnus Archives - The Magnus Protocol 53 – Previous Administration

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

CAT123RABC4565-24121999-27062024transmutation (human) -/- catalyst (alchemical)Incident Elements:·  child endangerment·  imprisonment·  human experimentation· &n...bsp;threats of violence·  emotional manipulationTranscripts available at https://rustyquill.com/transcripts/the-magnus-protocol/You can find a complete list of our Kickstarter backers https://rustyquill.com/the-magnus-protocol-supporter-wall/Created by Jonathan Sims and Alexander J Newall  Directed by Alexander J NewallWritten by Jonathan SimsScript Edited with additional material by Alexander J NewallExecutive Producers April Sumner, Alexander J Newall, Jonathan Sims, Dani McDonough, Linn Ci, and Samantha F.G. Hamilton Associate Producers Jordan L. Hawk, Taylor Michaels, Nicole Perlman, Cetius d’Raven, and Megan Nice Produced by April SumnerFeaturing (in order of appearance) Billie Hindle as Alice DyerLowri Ann Davies as Celia RipleySue Sims as Gertrude RobinsonJon Gracey as Gerry KeayAnusia Battersby as Gwen BouchardSteve Newman as Nigel DickersonDialogue Editor – Nico VetteseSound Designer – Meg McKellarMastering Editor - Catherine RinellaMusic by Sam Jones (orchestral mix by Jake Jackson) Art by April Sumner  SFX from Soundly and Freesound: serøtōnin, Yuval, biralion, moneybags-anon, Nickh69, OwlStorm, pauliepaulpaul, SpliceSound, jriches1, Dredile, AugustSandberg, SpliceSound as well as previously credited artistsSupport Rusty Quill directly by joining our new membership platform at members.rustyquill.com or on Patreon at patreon.com/rustyquillPre-order links for From the Library of Jurgen Leitner: https://rustyquill.com/novelCheck out our merchandise available at https://www.redbubble.com/people/RustyQuill/shop and https://www.teepublic.com/stores/rusty-quillSupport Rusty Quill by purchasing from our Affiliates;DriveThruRPG – DriveThruRPG.comJoin our community:WEBSITE: rustyquill.comFACEBOOK: facebook.com/therustyquillX: @therustyquillEMAIL: mail@rustyquill.com The Magnus Protocol is a derivative product of the Magnus Archives, created by Rusty Quill Ltd. and licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share alike 4.0 International Licence. For ad-free episodes, bonus content and more, join members.rustyquill.com or our Patreon.Pre-order FROM THE LIBRARY OF JURGEN LEITNER, a Magnus novel releasing October 27th: rustyquill.com/novel Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi folks, Shahan here, and today I'm here to tell you about From the Library of Yergen Lightner, an upcoming The Magnus Archives novel, releasing this October 27th. From the Library of Yergan Lightner is the first in a multi-book deal between Rusty Quill and Random Houseworlds. The book explores an infamous organization from the Magnus Verse for the first time, the perilous private library of the enigmatic collector Yergan Lightner, where occult books are guarded and researched at a fatal cost. This novel, which is set before the events in the podcast, is written by the creator of the Magnus Archives, Jonathan Sims, and Nebula award-winning author Pramie Muhammad. In the winding, perilous halls of Yergen Lightner's library, you never know what you'll find.
Starting point is 00:00:44 A starving cookbook. A cloth-bound hardback that compels you to dig, dig, dig. These books aren't more than simply unnerving. They're deadly. But the library keeps their dangers in check, and there would be readers safe. Also Leitner claims. For two of his employees, the risks are worth it. But will Hugh Franklin and Sebastian Everett find a way out, or will the library consume them before it's too late? Step into a library where the lights are low and the pages bite.
Starting point is 00:01:13 You can pre-order your copy of From the Library of Yergen Lightner now at www. RustyQuill.com forward slash novel. Or go to the link in the description of this episode. Rusty Quill presents The Magnus Protocol Episode 53 Previous Administration So
Starting point is 00:02:40 Are you going to knock Or are we just admiring the woodgrain of the door? I just... Because don't get me wrong It's got a real mid-century modern vibe that I kind of dig I want to say teak. Is that teak?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Look, Alice, Are we sure we're not just wasting our time here? We already got completely. completely blanked by Mrs. Hussein and honestly I don't expect this to go any better. I'll admit I foolishly underestimated you and Sam's ability to alienate every person you meet, but this is still our best bet. Unless you're finally ready to come with me to the Hilltop Centre. Enough, Alice. We haven't been back once yet. Enough. We've been over this. It's too dangerous.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It's not like I'm going to run up and shove my head in there. I'll keep a nice NHS-endourced socially distanced two meters. Hell, maybe I'll even treat myself and stay five meters away. I'm serious, Alice. So am I. It's been almost a month now since Sam vanished, and we're still faffing around here when we could be in that basement right now, investigating an actual lead. You don't understand. How can I when you refuse to even consider it? I can't go back there. Look, I get it, I do. But we're going to have to face it sooner or later. What happened wasn't
Starting point is 00:03:58 your fault but the longer you make us wait for okay I get it now do you want me to knock or are you that won't be necessary oh uh hello again Gigi Gertrude hello again Celia from the O I A R and Alice Alice I see we're sorry to bother you again yet here you are Why don't you come in? Sorry for the mess. Jerry has been experimenting again. Point to Lizard this time.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Tea? Uh, no, thank you. You're sure? I was putting on a pot anyway. No, really, I'll have one, thanks. Wonderful. Let me just find... Ah, there it is.
Starting point is 00:05:00 You have a lovely flat. Thank you, dear. It's not perfect, but it's nice and quiet. Just the way we like it. I'll be sad to see it go. Oh, are you selling or... Bloody hell! Sit down.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Both of you, slowly. So, uh, what's going on? Okay, let's all just calm down. I am perfectly calm. Frustrated, certainly. But I've had plenty of time to prepare for this day. What do you want? Right now, I want you to avoid anything that forces me to shoot.
Starting point is 00:05:40 you. With that thing, it looks like an antique. It is. My father's Enfield number two from his officer days. It's almost a hundred years old, but I can assure you it has been very well cared for and is quite functional. Cool. Celia, why does this old lady want to shoot us? I don't know. I shouldn't have let you leave last time, but Jerry was adamant. I knew you'd be back for him, but I'm ready to stop you. Jerry, he's your... grandson, right? Celia, why does she think we want to steal her grandson? I don't know. Gertrude, what is going on here? Phones, watches, any other electronics on the table now. Listen, you don't want to hurt us. Of course not, but I'll get over it. Now turn around,
Starting point is 00:06:33 hands on your head. People will notice we're missing. Eventually. We'll be long gone by then. just as long as we're finished before. Ah, too late. What's funny? Sorry, I just... This is so daft. After everything that's gone on, this is what does us in.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Stop. Stop, this is serious. I just honestly didn't see it coming. Getting shot by an antique wielding grandmother. Oh, for goodness. sake. Gigi, I'm back. I've got milk and loom roll, but you didn't say what type of biscuit, so... Hi, Jerry! Celia! Hi! Gigi, what's all this? I have it under control, Jerry. If you could just be a good lad and give me a few minutes, maybe you'd take a walk around the park. That does sound fun, but I do
Starting point is 00:07:34 need to know why you've got the gun out and are pointing it at Celia and... Alice, lovely to meet you. And you? I love your head. hair. Thanks. They came back. Which means the government knows about you, which means we have to leave. And you want to shoot them? Well, not anymore, obviously. Right. So, what, we're good? For now at least. Tea? Oh, yes, please, Jerry. And Alice already asked for a cup. Right, oh. So, like, just to be clear, you were going to shoot us, right? That was the general idea, yes. But now... With Jerry here, I just don't have it in me.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Sorry, am I missing something? My fault, sorry. I know it can be a bit strange in extreme situations like this, but it's not something I can turn off, I'm afraid. He's an external. But like a good one, he makes people happy, whether they want to be or not. Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You didn't say anything about this happening last time, Celia. Sam and I were getting a lot. so I guess I just didn't notice? Most people don't, which is handy, I suppose. People don't often question an unexpected good mood. Until it happens at gunpoint. Speaking of, Gigi, I'm going to need you to move that off the table so I can serve. Oh, very well.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Honestly, though, I don't think you're going to need it. These are good people, nice people. I'm sure of it. Everyone seems nice to you, Jerry. Because they are. No, because they can't not be. around you. Oh, I don't know. I seem to recall you getting pretty snippy if I don't do the dishes.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I've had practice. Well, either way, they don't look like they came here looking for trouble. They're not armed, they didn't bring any police, and not exactly intimidating. Oh, no offence. None taken. I mean, it's not like we came here prepped for an external. External? I presume that's the O-I-A-R word for catalyzed subjects.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Oh, I see. So you really didn't know? Nope. We wanted to ask you about something else entirely. Complete misunderstanding. Now that is funny. So, what's your story? Can't really go back to the sweet old lady routine now.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You may as well tell them. They've been asking about the Institute, and if you're set on us leaving anyway, it can't hurt to let them know. It very much can. But I'm not sure I have it in me to fight you on it. Could you at least wait in another room, though? I'd rather not have to explain it with a smile.
Starting point is 00:10:17 All right, but I'm taking this with me. Don't want you tempted while I'm gone, do we? God forbid. So, you want to know about the Magnus Institute? Yeah, I guess we do. Where to start? I first became aware of the organisation in the early 70s. At the time, I was struggling to make sense of an experience
Starting point is 00:10:42 I'd had some years before. The details are, quite frankly, none of your business, but it had several important effects on me. One, it left me certain that monsters were very real, in a supernatural sense, not merely a metaphorical one. Two, it rendered me utterly alone in the world without any remaining family, loved ones, or meaningful connections. And three, it led to me taking my first two human lives. You can perhaps imagine the effects such a radical change has on a person, or perhaps you can. can't. Either way, the few years immediately afterwards were spent searching for the meaning of what happened, or at least an explanation. It should not be difficult to imagine how such a search
Starting point is 00:11:25 might lead me to the doorstep of the Magnus Institute. When I first came to them, they were rude, dismissive, and extremely skeptical. They did not bother to hide the fact that they viewed me as someone who, if not an outright fantasist, had stumbled across something she could not hope to understand. The first time I visited, they accused me of wasting their time and had me escorted from the premises. It was this, more than anything else, that convinced me the Institute knew what they were talking about. Unlike the many other groups I had found that promised insight into the darker corners of the world, they were not recruiting or selling or reassuring. I was certain they knew what was going on, and decided I would stop at nothing to join them, and learn the truth for myself.
Starting point is 00:12:19 It was the third time that I broke into the Institute, that I finally met Dr. Welling. By this point, I had found more than enough evidence of the strange and unnatural in that building, and there was no longer any pretense between us. Instead, I could see in his eyes something I'd witnessed only once before, someone deciding whether or not to kill me. However, unlike the thing I had met at the bottom of my garden, Welling was too weak to make the decision. He had me recite my story yet again
Starting point is 00:12:53 and paid particular attention to the point at which I had to murder my father and my sister. Then he was silent for some time. Do you think you could kill again? he asked at last. I said yes. It was strange. The question evoked no feeling in me at all. No fear, no eagerness, no revulsion or discomfort. The violence meant nothing to me at all, and I realized in that moment that perhaps the thing in my garden had won, after all. Dr. Welling nodded and gestured for me to follow him. He led me from his small office through austere wood-panelled corridors, and finally down some ancient stairs to a cold, stone basement, and there, surrounded by three worried-looking academics, I found my first project with them. It was quite an easy one to start with. While it was still recognisably human, it was clearly in a great deal of pain, flailing and spasming on the cold flagstones. A thin
Starting point is 00:14:00 trickle of molten gold streamed from its mouth, ears and nose. There was even some below its fingernails and under its closed eyelids and the skin around these areas was cracked and blistered from the extreme heat. I would learn later that this was the first in their new series of experiments and they hadn't been prepared for such a grotesque result. The only thing they had available for me to use was a heavy iron spanner left behind by a workman who'd been fixing the building's piping. It was enough. After the business was finished, there was no question about my membership of the Institute or what my role within it was going to be. I still don't know if I ever fully believed in the Institute's goals, but I've
Starting point is 00:14:47 considered the question for 25 years. You're perhaps too young to understand how difficult it can be to remember how you truly felt about something so long ago. It becomes coloured, distorted. Everything you said, you did, you felt, it all bleeds into a little. It all bleeds into a each other and gets mudded by the things that follow. It certainly waxed and waned over the decades I worked for them. I did respect their mission, though I was perhaps more grounded, less utopian than my colleagues. It was hard not to be when I was the one disposing of their many, many failures. The messianic rhetoric always irritated me, but the fundamental idea investigating a force that transformed people for fear and evil, then finding a way to invert it,
Starting point is 00:15:39 to transform someone for hope and light. That made sense to me. Perhaps I was naive. No, I was definitely naive, but I needed there to be at least a chance that something good could come from all that awfulness. I don't know how many people I killed with the Magnus Institute over those three decades. More than 20, certainly. They normally made one attempt each year, although there were exceptions for special circumstances.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Not all their failures were killed, of course. One escaped, a few were locked away, experimented on. They kept the blood brewer for almost five years before having me dispose of him, and I think the archivist was still there when I burned the place down. I didn't set the blaze personally, of course, but we all knew that. the OIAR was paying attention, and I had little doubt what the outcome of my anonymous tip would be. I was surprised by how sloppy their hirelings were, though. It was messy work, overdone, with no eye for detail. As for why I did it, you already met him. Jerry was nine when he underwent the first of the transmutation rituals. I was out of favour at the time, and so my
Starting point is 00:17:02 colleagues did not consult with me about the use of children. I didn't even realise they'd done so until Jerry had already been changed into the being of raw positivity that I now protect. I have never had children. I never wished to have children. I don't like children. But even I have my limits and finding out that in their desperation for results, they had started to use them as subjects. I suppose it was all somewhat academic. to them. When it all inevitably went wrong, they weren't the ones that would need to dispose of the results. Like me, Jerry had no family to speak of, and he was already so changed that he would need to be cared for by someone who understood. What else could I do? I took him away, along with a few items from the vault that I could sell to some collectors for living costs.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I remember I was smiling when I stole him from the Institute. I was smiling when I called the OIAR. And I was smiling when my colleagues were murdered and the building in which I had done such terrible things was burnt to the ground. I don't know how much of that was due to his presence. I suspect the point is moot. It was an odd experience regardless.
Starting point is 00:18:28 So you just left it all behind? tried to. We moved down to London, tried to move on, that that sort of thing never truly leaves you. I ended up keeping something of a watch over the ruins. I would discourage adventure seekers and explorers, however I could, doing my best to hide its existence from them online or rendering it uninteresting, and I would clean up when occasionally one of them would go in anyway and find some dangerous trinket that ultimately killed them. I didn't hear a peep from you when me and Sam went snooping. You went there? I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. I don't watch as closely as I once did. And truthfully, there's not much I could have done, even if I'd caught you. My needs have been
Starting point is 00:19:12 going for years now, and the journey up to Manchester isn't as easy as it was. Well then, I've got some bad news for you, because the archivist has escaped. What? No. It must have died in the fire. And even if it didn't, it's been 25 years. It would have starved down there. I mean, it's definitely been snobes. It's been feeding on people left, right and centre since it got out. Then it grabbed my friend and pulled him into a portal to hell. I beg you, pardon? It's a hole in reality that leads somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:19:44 That's what we're trying to investigate. That's why we're here. I see. Well, I'm sorry about your friend, but I don't believe I know anything about such a portal to hell. It was in a property the Institute owned at the Hilltop centre in Oxford. Do you know it? Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I often dealt with the paperwork for property purchases. Some of the researchers believed the locations could be catalyzed, the same way as beings or objects. And they were trying to find a suitable location. And did any of them mention a horrifying tear in the fabric of the universe? I believe one of them may have referred to a rift at some point. But I just assumed they were talking about a problem with a building structure, like subsidence. I certainly don't remember anything else.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Seriously? Nothing. By that point, I was sufficiently ostracised and they told me very little about Phase 2 of the great work. I suppose in some ways it's a blessing. If I'd known about this, then I'd have had to watch over it too. And now? Now, I'm too old and too tired to do anything except try to protect Gerry from his own naivety.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I heard that. Speaking of which, since I've answered all your questions, I would appreciate you doing me the courtesy of answering one of my own. Go for it. When should we expect a visit from your hired killers? What? I mean, never? I find that hard to believe.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Look, I don't know what the OAAR was like in your day, but now, it's crap. There's three of us in a basement cataloging junk that's fuck all used to anybody. The only way anything burns down is if I drop a joint on it. some paperwork while I'm napping. And yet you found us. By accident. Sam and I were looking into the Institute for personal reasons, not for the OIAR.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And your superiors? Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. They know less than we do. Fine. You may go, but don't expect to find us here again. Regardless of how crap the OIAR may have become, we've clearly stayed here longer than
Starting point is 00:22:00 was sensible. Fine by us. Thanks for the tea. Good luck finding your friend. And make sure you thank Jerry on the way out. He gets upset when people leave without saying goodbye. And he did save your lives after all. I did try to call, but...
Starting point is 00:22:46 Mr Dickerson? What are... Nigel, please. How did you get in here, Nigel? Well, the front door wasn't locked and reception was... That is to say, there wasn't anybody there. I thought I might have to find a security guard, but... Was there something you needed?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Oh, yes. I've been trying to get through to Lena, but I haven't had much luck. That would probably be because Lena no longer works for this department. What? Oh. Oh, dear. I am currently the head of the OIAR. You? Really? But I thought you only just... Right. Okay. Okay, right. Well, then, I suppose I need to talk to you then. I suppose you do. I was hoping, that is to say, wondering whether you had any work for Mr. B.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It's been a little while and I was worried that we might have missed something. You haven't. Oh, so... This department is currently undertaking a review of its relationships with all external partners. Until that review is completed, no new assignments are being given out. None at all? Are you serious? I am.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Well, how long is this review going to take? The timeline has not yet been finalised. No, no, you don't understand. It's not... If I can't get him anymore, making a mistake, a huge mistake. No. No more free lunches. The buffet is closed. If, if I decide we will continue working with externals like your client, it will be on our terms.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And what are your terms? For now, don't call us. We'll call you. Don't be a fool. He knows who you are. He'll find you. He'll do as instructed. Otherwise, he'll lose access to our systems forever
Starting point is 00:25:07 and all the opportunities that we have been providing him. I'm begging you. You can't send me back without something. Good night, Nigel. Feel free to leave the way you came. You don't want to play this game with him. I'm not here to play games, Mr Dickerson. I'm here to work, and it's about time everyone else did the same.
Starting point is 00:25:55 The Magnus Protocol is a podcast distributed by Rusty Quill and licensed under a Creative Commons attribution non-commercial share-a-commercial share-a-0 international license. The series is created by Jonathan Sims and Alexander J. Newell, directed by Alexander J. Newell. This episode was written by Jonathan Sims and edited with additional materials by Alexander J. Newell, with vocal edits by Nico Votesé. Soundcaping by Meg McKellar and mastering by Catherine Rinella with music by Sam Jones. It featured Billy Hindle as Alice Dyer, Loryan Davis as Celia Ripley and Anousa Battersby as Gwen Bouchard.
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Starting point is 00:27:39 In case you haven't heard, there is next. a Magnus Archives novel. The Library of Jürgen Lightner is set in the world of the Magnus Archives and written by Nebula award-winning author Premi Muhammad with our very own Jonathan Sims. The story follows Hugh, a university dropout, desperate to find somewhere to belong and his new job at an esoteric library. The books he must investigate for the enigmatic Juergen Lightner are not normal, because the library is not a vault, sealed and silent, but a hive, alive, buzzing, and ready to sting. The Library of Jürgen Leitner releases October 27th, 2026, but you can pre-order it right now in the US and UK from your local bookshop, or by using the link in the episode description. If you live outside of the UK or US, you may be able to make an international order for this first publication, but it depends on individual retailers' shipping policies.

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