The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 2729 - GOP Convention Highlights Trump's Fascism and Weirdness W/ Jennifer Welch, Francesca Fiorentini

Episode Date: September 11, 2026

It's Casual Friday on The Majority Report On today's program: Jon Stewart speaks at NYC Hall to praise the hard work of the people who fought to expose the city's cover up of their knowledge of the dangerous air quality following the September 11 attacks. Jennifer Welch, co-host of the I've Had It Podcast joins to recap the week's news. Preorder Jennifer Welch's new book, "Not Today Fascists: The Lies That Got Us Here, And The Truths That Will Reunite Us" which is out on October 6. We take a look at some of the many deranged and bizarre moments from the GOP's unprecedented midterm convention. Francesca Fiorentini, comedian and host of The Bitchuation Room, joins to continue the mocking of the GOP convention. See Emma with Francesca Fiorentini live in Los Angeles on October 4 or if you're in Brooklyn you can catch her at the Bell House with Matt Lieb on October 15. Sen. John Fetterman films a glowing introduction for his Republican colleague from Pennsylvania's speech at the GOP convention in Dallas. Count down until Fetterman officially switches party. Mehdi Hasan debates former member of the Obama administration, Joel Rubin over conflating Jews with Israel and you may be surprised to find out that it isn't Mehdi who is doing the conflating. Hillary Clinton goes on MSNOW to push the centrist, pro-Israel lobby's narrative that the problem with Israel is Netanyahu and things will be fine once the Prime Minister is gone. Trump goes on a bizarre rant about James Talarico - I can't really summarize it but it's something else. All that and more. On Sunday, October 4, Emma will be in Los Angeles doing a Bitchuation Room Live with Francesca Fiorentini at the Lodge Room. Get tickets here. To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AM Quickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: DELETEME: Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to www.joindeleteme.com/MAJORITY and use promo code MAJORITY at checkout. NUTRAFOL: Get $10 off your first month's subscription + free shipping at Nutrafol.com when you use promo code TMR10 SUNSET LAKE CBD: Head to SunsetLakeCBD.com and use coupon code LABORDAY26 to save 25% on Sunset Lake Farms CBD Oil Tinctures. This sale ends September 14th at midnight Eastern time. Follow the crew on X @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's YouTube channel: https://ww.youtube.com/Th3Discourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here: https:/www.youtube.com/@avaraiza

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The majority report with Sam Cedar. It is Friday. September 11, 2006. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award. winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially

ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA on the program today, Jennifer Welk, co-host of the I've Had It podcast and author of the soon to be released, not today, fascists,

the lies that got us here and the truth that will reunite us. Then Francesca Furentini comedian host of the bituation room meanwhile 25 years later many of America's scars from 9-11

self-inflicted core inflation higher than expected consumer prices rise 0.4% meanwhile diesel over $6 a gallon for the first time ever Anthropic

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U.S. expands military support for Saudi attacks on Yemen, Houdis, and Iran war now estimated to cost three times that of annual free college. Welcome, everybody. It is a casual Friday. And Matt is out today. So we're flying solo and, you know, we're going to build in a little bit of, you know, technical issues. I already faced one head to head and took it out. There you go. No worries.

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We will be doing a lot of coverage of the Trump Convention last night. non convention convention um but uh we will get to that in a moment meanwhile a couple days ago john stewart was uh at city hall talking about the newly released documents that show that in the months following the attacks uh at ground zero on nine eleven that the the city and probably the state and probably the federal government covered up the air quality that was going on there folks who had spent time on the pile as they called it at the time know this John Stewart spent a lot of time trying to get support for first responders and folks who worked on the pile and you had many Republicans and people have sort of like forgotten this voted

against providing funds to help people who had horrible health implications following it. Here is John Stewart on the steps of City Hall a couple days ago. The people that made them uncover that and made it be released to the public are the people that are standing behind me. They're the ones on the till. They are first responders. They are families of loved ones that were lost. They are legislators. They are legislative aids. The city began covering their ass three weeks in in a memo. The memo is entitled legislative alternatives to the fiscal responsibility for 9-11. These people had to fight sick and dying for years.

And I'm not saying that the information may have changed the outcomes, unfortunately, for their families. But I guarantee you it would not have been the struggle that it was to get people to recognize that what they all knew, and what we all knew who live in downtown Manhattan, is that there was poison in the air and on the ground and in the windowsills and in your air conditioners and covering your pets and your clothes and it stayed there for months. Everyone knew. And now it's very clear that the city knew as well. And rather than take the steps to ameliorate the damage that that would cause to its citizens and to the people that were down there, they instead covered it up to get back. to business as usual. But unfortunately, after 9-11, business will never be usual again. And so

I just want to say that the people that are standing up here are heroes. They are, and it's not just about the past. It's not just about going into the files and relitigating how we all knew what we knew was there. It's about the future. It's just so important that, this is the focus and not this relentless attempt to make the 9-11 attacks into a propaganda object for some sort of clash of civilization-style racism that the right has reinvigorated in this current moment. They're trying to make hatred of Muslim people, Arab people more broadly, the national narrative of this midterms. there was some quote from an anonymous Republican operative, essentially. I think it was to Politico about the Tala Rico and Paxton race. And what the operative said was like DSA is the only thing keeping us in this.

I don't know how rosy of a picture that is if that matches the reality. But they see this narrative of going after basically leftists, calling them communists, and then tying it to Islam and Muslim people and the Middle East more broadly in this kind of like Judeo-Bulshevik style conspiracy theory as their best shot to retain as much power as possible in a midterm cycle that's going to be about affordability where gas prices are out of control and Trump started this incredibly unpopular war. And that's why Hassan is the focus in my view in many ways. That's why Mamdani is the focus.

that is why Abdul al-Sayed is the focus. They feel like they can tie these things together and it's immensely bigoted. And so making it about the actual like government malfeasance poisoning these first responders is how you actually don't forget about the attacks.

When people in power say never forget, they mean don't lose the hatred in your heart for your Muslim neighbor. This is about like actually actual accountability. And I appreciate that Stewart has kept the focus on this for so long.

And if you look back at where we are, 25 years later, with the advent of ICE, which was a function of 9-11. There was prior to that, we had immigration naturalization services. We had immigration policing, but we hadn't created a paramilitary

and 25 years later, we see the implications of policy decisions that are made in that era. We also see it in the context of surveillance of Americans. We see it in the context of police departments that have been up-armored and now all resemble paramilitary units. We see it in the implications of a million dead Iraqis, millions upon millions, of internal and external refugees. We see it in the implications of a completely destabilized Middle East. We had Spencer Ackerman on.

I think it was a couple of years ago. He wrote a book that showed that made a very cogent argument that Donald Trump, in many respects, is a product of this. And certainly, you know, you could see the vestiges of it in the early office. thoughts. Bush initially, the initial response, within like the first 24 hours, 48 hours was this is a policing action. Terrorism was a crime. And then within, I don't know if it was days or weeks, we had the advent of the war on terror, which of course is not a thing that you can have a war on. And yet, if you want to engage in endless wars, which we more or less have since 20, that day 25 years ago, that is what you would do. And that's what we did.

Dave from Tallin says, would you say Osama bin Laden succeeded? I think on his terms, getting us stuck in a war in Afghanistan for well over a decade and Iraq well over a decade and the loss of freedoms and everything we have seen in the wake of 9-11, 2001, by his terms, I would imagine he would be very happy. I don't know what better outcome he could have imagined at that time. And here we are. So especially as we have quadrupled down, I don't know, that might even be too low of a figure in the Middle East with this war in Iran and our support for Israel. Like it's speed running and accelerating the death of America in a unipolar geopolitical framework. Like that's just what has happened since 9-11.

We will be talking later about Donald Trump's promise that the war is going to end and everybody's going to get $5,000 after the midterms if you vote for Trump. Don't you guys have the House and the Senate and the presidency now? The real question is, why not do that now? Well, it's all about timing because that's what Iran would want. We will cover that in a moment. And in a moment, Jennifer Welch will be joining us. She's the co-host of the I've Had It Podcast. And the author of the forthcoming, not today, fascist, lies that got here.

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All right, quick break. When we come back, Jennifer Welsh. We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland, on the Majority Report. It is a real pleasure to welcome back to the program, Jennifer Welsh. She is, of course, the co-host of the I've Had It podcast and now author of the forthcoming not today, fascists, the lies that got us here and the truths that will reunite us. And she got the book. Jennifer, welcome back to the program.

Thank you so much. I'm so excited when I saw on my calendar that I got to spend the lunch hour with you, too. I was so excited. I've been excited all day. So thank you so much for having me. Oh, I'm excited to have it. you. It's nice to have some estrogen in the building and to make fun of some of these, some of these fascists with you. I love it. It's my favorite thing to do.

Let's start with this clip because you had mentioned it right before we got on air. And it is pretty stunning. And it's also, you know, amazing that 25 years later, we really, there's so much that as a public, we don't really know. I mean, there's a lot of stuff in the 9-11 Commission report. The former senator from Florida, I think it was Bob Graham. His name escapes me at the moment. But he had spoken a little bit in the years of following, and it just seems to have been completely memory hold in many respects,

and not by Terry Strata, whose husband died that day. Here is a clip from her speech, which, caught people by surprise, I would say the least. It's muted. Ben Gerard Hoffman. Uncle Stephen, we love and miss you. And as my dad says, your twin, Greg, thank you for the memories.

They're the best part. And my husband, Tom Strata, you are missed more with each year that passes. But how can it be 25 years? And still, we have no justice for the role that Saudi Arabia played in your murder. Brave woman. Yes, we finally made it into a court,

and I've proved that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia fomented a rancid culture of anti-American terrorism around the globe and then sent its agents to support the radical Islamist hijackers so they could attack you and all of our loved ones. But for 25 years, administration, after administration, including leaders in front of us here today, chose to protect the Saudis instead of standing with the 9-11 families. They withheld evidence.

They vetoed Jasta. They broke promises, both public and private. It has been one betrayal after another. President Trump can still change that. Tell the Saudis to stop lying. Tell them that if they want to be friends with the USA, they cannot continue to deny all of this, all of the pain, all of the destruction that we have all been solving.

suffering through. Vice President Vance, thank you for being here today. Please carry that message back. Stand with the families, stand with the survivors, stand with Americans. As my husband Tom would have said, that is always the right thing to do. God bless all of us. God bless America. I don't know if that was like a choice that they already thought about before she started speaking, the way they're playing that music over her, it's like at the Oscars when someone goes too long, they're like, get her off. I don't know. That was pretty brave of her to call out Vance right to his face. I thought it was incredible. And I think that she speaks to something and brings up something that

is kind of a through line right now. You see everyday Americans standing up and resisting a lot of the BS and propaganda that were fed. And we have a lot of administrations that, have turned a blind eye to this. And you remember when Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9-11 came out, how big of a movie that was? And he exposed that the Bush administration, while we were all grounded, none of us could fly. They approved Osama Bin Laden's family members to take their PJs to get out of the United States. And no other Americans would fly. But these foreign-born citizens that were connected to the mastermind of this were able to leave the United States of America.

And then we get to Jamal Khashoggi. Then we get to all of the administrations that kiss the ring of Saudi Arabia. And then we get to Jared Kushner, who is ass-deep with the Saudis. But more than anything, if we had a smart Democratic Party right now, they would message that the Republican Party uses 9-11 to propagandize for propaganda. The Democratic Party needs to take a firm stance against the Saudis and all of the corruption with the Trump regime right now. because the Republicans want to say, Zoran, bad Muslim, Abdul al-Said bad Muslim,

connected to 9-11, even though there were children when this thing happened. But why are we not pointing out that Trump wants to do business with every rich, corrupt Muslim he possibly can at any, at every single turn? Yeah, I mean, I think that's the point. And people have, I think, memory hold that notion.

And it was, I mean, there was reporting contemporaneous. I remember that it wasn't, and it wasn't just bin Laden's family. I mean, it was like an extended Saudi royalty who were flown out of the country literally within hours. And people forget the relationship that the Bush family had with the House of Sod. It was incredibly extensive. George Herbert Walker Bush obviously came from oil money, and their relationship was very, very, very. very tight. There was a famous picture of George Bush walking hand in hand with one of the Saudi princes. And all of this was memory hold. And much of like what we see in less so these days

with the Democratic Party back on their heels. But for a decade, the Democrats were afraid of their own shadow. And we saw them flip on the Iraq war. And we saw folks like Kerry and Clinton go out and vote to give Bush at that time, a sort of unlimited authority that is still, in many respects, being abused. Hillary Clinton was defending her Iraq war vote yesterday or two days ago. Morning Joe, just FYI. Are you serious? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it was, all of this is just sort of like in the 25 years. I mean, I would even put it to the 2011. frankly, was sort of the predicate for this because I think Al Gore would not have had us going into Iraq. It's also, you know, we see now the echoes of George Bush getting that presidential daily briefing in early August of 2001, where literally titled Osama bin Laden determined to attack within the U.S. And we know that Condi Rice had months earlier been in Genoa, Italy, for a summit where the idea of a plane being flown into where this summit was taking place was a potential danger enough that they had anti-aircraft missile all around the meeting space.

So the idea that this was somehow impossible to imagine, that's what they were saying at the time, a failure of imagination. And echoes, I mean, in many respects to the reports now that Netanyahu was given a definitive warning that Hamas was ready to attack. In fact, a warning that came from Hamas because it was basically a way to communicate the five-year- of stalling in our negotiations can't go on and yet here we are. Let's, I don't know, if there's anything else to talk about on this day, let's do it. Otherwise, let's move into sort of like, I guess, what 25 years later we bring to a strong man leader or, you know, theoretically, metaphorically speaking, in front of that same Republican Party.

I mean, I still remember the conventions where they were holding up blue dots, I think, on their thumb to make, or purple on their thumb, to make fun of John Kerry's purple heart that he got. But here's where we are today. I know this is right up your alley, Jennifer. Here is Donald Trump

leading a new pledge of a oh no no no actually let's start with this one before we get to that let's start with this one and it seems like i don't know you can tell me because maybe you'd have a better sense of this but it sounds like either a paul harvey mimic or even a i voice uh play this video that they played i think this was last night was this last night brian yeah yeah yeah it's an rnc video from last night. This is nuts. In 1946, God looked down on his plan paradise and said, I need a caretaker, so God gave us Trump. God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, fix this country, work all day, fight the Marxist, eat supper, then go to the Oval Office and stay past

midnight at a meeting of the heads of state. So God made Trump. I need somebody with arms, strong enough to rustle the deep state and yet gentle enough to deliver his own grandchild somebody to ruffle the feathers tame cantankerous world economic forum come home hungry have to wait until the first lady is done with lunch with friends then tell the ladies to be sure and come back real soon

and mean what so god gave us trump I need somebody who can shape an axe but wield a sword who had the courage to step foot North Korea. Who can make money from the tar of the sand turn liquid to gold? Who understands the difference between tariffs and inflation will finish his 40-hour week by Tuesday noon, but then put in another 72 hours. So God made Trump. God had to have somebody willing to go into the den of vipers. Call out the fake news for their tongues as sharp as a serpents. The poison of vipers is on their

lips and yet stop so God made trump God said I need somebody who will be strong and courageous who will not be afraid or terrified of the wolves when they attack a man who cares for the wolf a shepherd to mankind who won't ever leave nor forsake them I need the most diligent worker to follow the path and remain strong in faith and know the belief of God and country, somebody who's well-uping manufacturing and American jobs, farm the lands, secure our borders, build our military, fight the system all day, and finish a hard week's work by attending church on Sunday.

Like he always does. The sun turns and says, Dad, let's make America great again. Dad, let's build back a country to be the envy of the world again. Okay, wow. My favorite part was when they said he was wielding a sword, and it was just him like jostling it up with the Saudis and playing with it. To quote George W. Bush, that's some weird shit. Yeah.

This does not surprise me because I grew up around the people who this message was made for. This is for the megachurchers. This is for the people that didn't see anything weird or bizarre in Charlie Kirk's funeral presentation. This is the exchange that they have to give evangelical Christians. So the Republican Party brilliantly decades ago realized what's the number one way to determine if somebody votes, church attendance? So they injected themselves into all of these churches. And the evangelicals and the Republican Party, where I grew up, are completely enmeshed.

It's to be a Republican is to be a Christian, to be a Christian, is to be a Republican. so deeply enmeshed into a person's identity. And so when they see this, this is what I call classic Christian signaling because they know, wait, he, the Echin Carol thing, Epstein, they hear these little things buzzing around. But then if they deliver this, God did this. He is your imperfect vessel. And you cannot question what God, what God's plan is. If you question that, then you have a weak faith.

And that's just Satan work. in your brain. And I can't tell you how many people I have known throughout my life in Oklahoma City who genuinely believe in spiritual warfare. And they believe that this man is God and Jesus is soldier that is going to deliver the United States of America as a Christian nation to God. They believe it, literally. And it's so crazy as these people were so fringe all of my life. Now they're the federal government. Yeah. I mean, this is, this was, this has been in the making like you say, for almost 50 years, Paul Wyrick was, I think, instrumental in merging. And, you know, the history on this is a little bit disputed, but the idea of Jimmy Carter,

pulling back tax exempt status for, I think it was Jones University or in the idea of, like, if you don't allow black and white people to integrate in your college, you will lose your tax status. But the abortion became, you know, prior to that, my understanding was that there was an attitude amongst, at least the fundamentalist Christians, that leave unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's. And the idea of engaging that politics was somewhat profane. and now it has melded.

Have you ever, are there circumstances where you've seen people who are sort of meshed in this thinking break out of it? Like, how does that happen? Yes, the co-host of my podcast, Pumps. When I first met her, I had kind of rid all of my major religious friends from high school because I'd gone to college and met people that weren't so religious

because my parents weren't at all, and I was never indoctrinated into it. And I remember Angie and I were driving our kids around one day. And she kept inviting me to Bible school. She kept trying to recruit me. And so she goes, yeah, I just left Bible study. You really should come. And I was like, I don't want to go.

I'm not interested in it. She goes, did you know that people used to live to be 900 years old? And I'm like, that never happened, Angie. That never happened. Actually, we live longer now because of filtered water and modern medication longer than ever. She's like, no, you know, there was no disease in the Garden of Eden. And I was like, spoiler alert, the Garden of Eden wasn't real too. And so, I mean, it took a, we've still hung out and, but she would always bring up all this crazy

literal stuff. And I was the only person she had ever met, ever that was, that believed anything differently than anybody in her whole Oklahoma City world. I was the lone person that had ever challenged her thinking. And she was, you know, she always thought I was the crazy one because I wasn't on board with it. ultimately, you know, a couple decades later, she deconstructed her faith. But her, the idea of being a Christian and being a Republican is so indoctrinated into these kids at a very young age.

I remember in high school, the pro-life movement. I remember a bunch of kids were upset. We had like maybe 10 black kids in our entire school, and they were going to form like a black students organization. And I remember a bunch of my classmates wanting to make a European student. students organization. I mean, just really horrible, awful shit. And so in Bible Belt states, it's really fascinating to me because they have all the

Republican supermajorities. They pray the most. And they're the bottom 10 states. I mean, every single time. I was just going to ask in terms of your co-host, what was like, was it just this a series of things where she started to see beyond this? I mean, because, you know, as you're talking about the, the, these, these hermetically sealed bubbles that these people are living in where they don't, aren't exposed, there's just not that many of views out there that can sort of pierce that bubble. The, the Duffies in their, you know, reality show transportation expenditure.

I mean, I don't even know what to call that. But there was a scene I saw where they're done. daughter wants to go to Harvard, and they're afraid to send her there because they know that she will be exposed to ideas that she hasn't seen before, and they're afraid she's going to leave the faith. And, you know, I remember interviewing a guy on the show having a debate with him. I can't remember his name, but this was maybe over a decade ago. A fundamentalist Catholic who was very upset that Chopped had shown two, like two women who were married. One of the chefs was married to a woman. He's like, I don't want my kids to be exposed to

this because he doesn't want the idea to be like, this is something that exists. Which shows how fragile their sexuality is. Their sexuality and their whole worldview. Because if you can't send your kid to Harvard or any, you know, I guess any, you know, sort of like non-religious university, because you're afraid. they're going to hear ideas that are going to compete with yours, and your ideas are going to crumble. I mean, but short of that, short of sending all these kids to college,

like what is to be done? I mean, it's, the indoctrination is so deep in these, I believe it's child abuse, and I take a lot of abuse from the right wing on this, but I think we need to talk about it. America has a crazy Christian problem, and the crazy Christians are organized,

They have played a long game. They've injected themselves into the government. They deny life-saving measures like food inspections, vaccines, modern science, et cetera. It's a death cold. And the Democrats not attacking this for so long has been a huge mistake because it's been incubating and incubating and incubating. And I grew up all around it. And I would always think, thank God we have a federal government because I lived right in

the epicenter of it. Now, you know, we got Paula White doing some casual tongue talking in the White House parking lot before she goes in. I mean, you know, the nuts are inside the death star now. And so I think the Democrats have got to start doing reputational brand damage to this breed of Christianity and call it what it is a cult. They need to call out the Speaker of the House. The Speaker of the House of the United States of America took his daughter. age 13 to a purity ball, put a ring on her finger and said, your virginity is mine. They had a marriage ceremony. And with the next time you get married, then I will give your virginity to your husband.

That's some weird ass shit. And that's before we even get to the porn checking that he and his son do. And that's before we even get to the fact that he claims that God woke him up in the middle of the night and said, hey, wake up, little guy, you're Moses. You're going to be speaker of the house. And we all just go on the press and everybody, like the Speaker of the House, is a legitimate human being. And he is a nut of the highest order in a complete state of religious psychosis. Josh Hawley says, they call me a Christian nationalist, and I say yes, and proud of it.

And this group of people are the most manipulatable group in the United States of America. How does Putin get involved through the National Prayer Breakfast? That's where they send all the Russian spies through. The NRA, who did they lock up to? All the crazy Christians. Who did Donald Trump have to go beg for support? Jerry Falwell Jr., the guy who sits in the corner while the pull boy hired bangs his wife?

I mean, how about the Israel lobby, Jen? They go through the evangelical movement of all. They go through the evangelicals. And we have to start talking about America's crazy Christian problem. And Democrats have been too weak to do it because they think, oh, we're attacking people's faith. This is not faith. This is a crazy cult of people who have been deeply indoctrinated. They think that God micromanages their thoughts at all times that. I mean, I had a boyfriend and he was like, yeah, you know, and I remember it in high school. And he was

like, yeah, no, if I think about wanting to make out with you, then God knows that. And that's a sin. And I remember thinking like, that's nuts. I mean, you know, but They believe this stuff, and it's abusive, that their tax exempt status needs to be taken away. Look at Olstein and all these other crooks. We have a massive crazy Christian problem, and they have too much power. And they're obsessed with Sharia law, and they're obsessed with, yes, that is exactly what, like, they, this is why we can't, you know, on the issue of Israel, which is so central, we can't give these right-winger really. much credit at all, I think, because if you give them this inch, you realize that their vision for America is just a supremacist vision where their religious extremism is at the very top.

It's not an egalitarian vision where everybody's going to live side by side one another. It's about religious supremacy, and it never stops. Like, you know, we're seeing now in this war on trans people, how it's impacting as well, public perception about gay marriage, for example. It has plummeted after steadily, uh, sorry, Sam. Republican perception. Yes, exactly. Like, it's backsliding. Um, and, and so to your point about the urgency of this, letting it fester really does leave so many people on the front lines, um, marginalized people that the party should be protecting. Yeah. And they feel, like they're doing God's work. They feel like this is their calling in life. Like I write in my book

that's coming out that I oftentimes, my life being a secular person, being an atheist, but growing up around so much religion. I mean, everywhere you go in Oklahoma City, it's church, church, church, church. How do these, and all the most religious people I know were right up there with Christy Nome and Big Titty Brian. They were the most screwed. up people on the absolute planet. Big Titty Brian, Christy Noem and Lewandowski are the perfect example. They are the everyday Maga Christian family. A hundred percent they are. And they always have this type of fuckery in their families, but then sanctimoniously preach to everybody else all the time. They're in like a polycule, but they want to yell at everybody else. Exactly. What's their

What's their exchange? I always think what's the exchange. So they think their bargain is it kind of goes back to that Trump video you played. Okay, we're fucked up. Brian's doing only fans and he wants to be put on big titties and be a transbimboslut. And Christy likes to fuck Cory Lewandowski and the PJ. But and that's fucked up. And we'll go ask Jesus for forgiveness on Sunday. But they keep doing it over and over and over again. This forgiveness without accountability is a theme in evangelical Christianity. It's a theme in Donald Trump's president. So it's familiar for them for Trump to get away with this stuff. No accountability, all forgiveness. But the bargain these people make is we're going to deliver America as a Christian nation. And that's a part of the way the Republican Party has injected itself through these churches. I think it's the bargain that Sam Alito and a lot of these other nuts in the Supreme Court, they know they're doing, they know they're backing Trump, they know he's lawless. God only knows what their, you know, porn hub history looks like.

know it's a disaster, but they think, okay, we're delivering this nation to God, and we're making America a Christian nation, and then that washes away all these secrets that they all have. And I think that's why they played that video, and it's nuts to mainstream America, but they played that for the base, and that shit hits hard in the base. Well, Sam has said this before about so much conservative media, that a lot of it is, don't let any doubt creep in. Don't, if you say, you might have empathy for this Palestinian baby. You might

have empathy for this child that's locked up in Dillie and is crying for their mother, right? You may have, you may have a moment of doubt that your ideology is wrong, but don't, like, Fox News will mock that, or they'll say how the left are hypocritical, or they're

insincere, right? They'll attack the source, and it's the same kind of religious fervor that applied to politics, as you say. It's about faith, blind faith. And Fox News and the right-wing media apparatus serve as a thought-negating mechanism, but also a reaffirmation of their faith in a certain ideology. It seems to me. No, and it's 100 percent, like, the way people always ask me, you're, you know, you're from a religious state, how do religious people support Trump? And I'm like, oh, I totally get it. He's just like them.

He is the evangelical preacher, but it goes even deeper than that. Authoritarian religions set the psychological soil for people to feel comfortable in an authoritarian government. So if you take a typical, let's say a 30-year-old triple-trumper or a 35-year-old triple-trumper, if the math works on that, they were probably raised in an authoritarian household with authoritarian parents where they could never question anything. They went to a church where they're told, you know, some, 16-year-old kid. If you masturbate, that's sin, you know, that's the devil. I mean, which is insane because he's pumping with hormones, right? So I grew up with all this shame and this fear and God's,

you know, surveilling their brain and also the devil's coming in and their spiritual warfare. These friends I grew up with in Oklahoma City were terrified. They literally thought it'd be at slumber parties that there were demons in the room with us. And I remember, like, what is happening here? And they thought there were angels that were fighting the demons around us. They believe this in this binary thinking, black versus white, good versus evil. Trump has brilliantly used that because that's so familiar to the way their preachers talk. It's so familiar. So the through line is authoritarian parenting, authoritarian religion, authoritarian governments. And the Democrats have not challenged this in a very long time because they're like, oh, we can't attack somebody's

faith. Well, the Republicans didn't think twice about going in and attacking the faith of people who live in bum fuck Oklahoma and the only social life they have is through their church, to go to a cakewalk, to go to bingo night, or whatever. They didn't think twice about it. And I think we need to have Democratic politicians that go into these neglected red states, and it might take several election cycles, but start saying, you were lied to, and they used your faith the lie to you. These people are liable. they're grifters and they need to start messaging very simply over and over because that kind of stuff resonates, very simple talk and they're lying about their faith. They're huge hypocrites. And we have to address the crazy Christian problem because it is such, for me and my whole life

as an American, the crazy Christians have been everywhere and now they're in the federal government. Is it going to come from Democratic politicians? I mean, in the wake of of 9-11. And by the wake, I mean, like, you know, the next 10 years, we heard so many calls from the establishment and the sort of neocons and the war hawks and the Islamophobes. Like, where are the moderate imams to come out and deal with this problem? And like, it's almost as if we need some other ambassadors. You know, as soon as a Democrat shows up in the these areas. And I guess, you know, to some extent, we're going to see it with Tala Rico. I agree. I mean, if Tala RICO can prevail in Texas, we may see a model for at

least in these, you know, deeply conservative states and deeply fundamentalist. I mean, it's really fundamentalism. And what you're saying about authoritarianism is spot on. I've talked many times about a guy, Bob Altemeyer, former, the late Bob Altemeyer, a professor in University of Manitoba, whose work was used by John Dean in the Oates in his book about conservatives, that 25% of North Americans are right-wing authoritarians, and they're trained in the modality of thought through this fundamental religion, fundamentalism, and that they apply that modality of thought to everything around them,

including politics, you know, is it a politician who's going to come in and be able to sort of undermine that fundamentalism or a fundamentalist thought? Is religious leaders? I mean, you know, like, again, Talarico, I think, is a pastor. I mean, there's some, you know, you get Warnock who's also a pastor. Like, there's some credibility associated with it or, you know, a, an ease in the language? I think it's going to be, I think now with the way new media and all the social media,

I think it's going to be a variety of things. I think the Tala RICO, I'm very interested to see how that plays out. I think that, in my opinion, any chance that the United States would become a Christian nation failed with the way they rolled out Charlie Kirk's funeral. And what I mean by that is in their work, in their bubble. They were like, oh, yeah, we're going to have pyrotechnics, you know, little Stephen Miller's going to give this crazy-ass hellfire damnation speech. But here's something I know about growing up in the Bible Belt. The people that went to megachurches

within an uber religious state are thought of the worst among other Christians. So it's like this Christian on Christian crime. So like the Catholics and the Episcopalians, when they see the megachurchers on like Easter, they all local TikTok or local Instagram is all the dunk tanks and people getting baptized and he has risen all this stuff. And my friends that were, you know, Episcopalians and didn't take the Bible literally, but had a faith, like, God, those megachurchers are so trashy, aren't they? And I was like, you know, I'll browbeat a megachurcher any day. So I'm all in on this.

Well, when they rolled out the megachurch style funeral, that little thing that happened in Oklahoma, where you have the non-crazy Christians up against the fundamentalists, and the non-crazy Christians are judging, you know, the fundamentalist so bad. I think all over the nation when they saw that, and we all saw Erica Kirk, it really exposed how fraudulent all of evangelical Christianity is. And I think they thought this was going to be their Reichs tag fire when Charlie Kirk was killed. And they rolled out this bat-shick crazy funeral and showed just how crazy megachurch culture is. that is, that is, you know, supports Trump by like 90%, I think it is, or high 80s. I think that was a moment where as crazy as that was to see, I thought, I'm so glad the

country's seeing that. This Republican convention that he's just had, I'm so glad they're rolling this shit out. I know that people in Bible Belt states are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I know the people that are of faith, but not the crazy fundamentalist faith, they know that shit's trashy, they know it's bullshit. They know it's grifty. So I think the more they display this, the easier it's going to be for us. And I think MAGA has done a really good job changing culture through social media and through podcasts. And I always say on my podcast, we have to do reputational brand damage to their brand. And the Republicans are good about damaging the Democrats brand. And we need

to be walk and chew gum at the same time, talk about what we're going to deliver, but also browbeat the shit out of these guys because they're so easy and it's so much fun to make fun of them and i think we need to call out the religious hypocrites call out how bisexual trump's been asked acting all the time talk about little moses mike grinder johnson doing some weird fucked up marriage ceremony with his daughter and just say it over and over and over again because i believe the majority of people like the little Duffy girl. I mean, deep down, we all have the same brains. Ours, of course, are more superior than MAGAs, obviously. But that critical thinking and all of those things come in. And that's what they're so, I think one of you alluded to it earlier,

there's so any sort of doubt you can't do. So I think that it's going to take a combination, to answer your question, Sam, a combination of cultural attacks, politicians attacking. And then I think the more they roll it out, the less it looks appealing. Because these are the same people. Those rollouts were my recruitment type things. And the more they tried to recruit me to be a Christian, the more I was like, oh, my God, my mom's so right. This is such bullshit.

Because I wanted to fit in with them. I wanted to convert. But they were too fucking crazy. And I wasn't indoctrinated. Well, in the spirit of mocking and in looking at how crazy they are, let's play clip number seven. We're in Tim Scott. Oh, my God. It was at the Republican midterm convention.

Here he is. Yeah. We're pulling it up here. I'm not sure what kind of energy he was trying to go for here. I believe that would be a wrestler, Andrew. I would guess so. He doesn't quite pull it off. Democrats, extreme candidates won't read these to be American.

Hear me, Dallas. Not on our watch. We. I think this is great for us. I do, you guys. I think they need to keep cranking up the crazy Christian dial more and more on the national stage. I think it's going to, the exposure to this is so helpful for the world to see. Did you see the guy laughing at him next to him and the cowboy hat?

I mean, Tim Scott must have just been really, really energized by the Hassan's first trap. He's the sun in his panties. Yeah. Yeah. He probably really liked that. Is Tim Scott still engaged to his, to his girlfriend, wife that he met at Bible study that, you know, they conveniently got engaged before his presidential run?

This is going to upset you. but apparently, I mean, you know how tumultuous relationships can be. Oh, no. Very shortly after his run, they broke up. That's so, I went so suspicious. Yeah. He loves wrestling so much. First off, that entire cadence was stolen from the introses of wrestling.

Are you ready to rumble? Oh, yeah. This is the way they talk. When I would go to my friend's evangelical church, like, because they were like, you're going to be saved. I was like, oh, my God, I better go. This is the way all these pastors talk just like that. And then people start jumping up, talking.

Did you see all the hands up and all that shit? This is so familiar to them because it is a WWE religion. Yeah. I just find it fascinating. He's really on a program to butcher himself up a little bit. is really the plan. Maybe he's thinking 2028. I wonder if he took part of that grinder outage we were hearing about Dallas.

Yeah. It's almost like, come on, does this happen every time? Like, it's almost, Jennifer, do you get sick? It happens at funerals. Do you get sick of talking about every time there's a big Republican event that there's a grinder outage? It's almost, it makes me feel like it's being made up, but it's not. It's just, it happens. every time.

It is something I have known about for so long before there was Grindr because my gay, I became, after I graduated from high school and I went to the University of Oklahoma, I couldn't hang out with all the crazy Bible study girls anymore and I met all these great gay guys and the same people that bullied me for not going to church, bullied them for being gay. And they would always tell me the big Christian Bubba type boys were always the ones that wanted to do secret gay hookups. And if you live in Oklahoma City, if you live in Arkansas, if you live in Louisiana, you live in Dallas, there's a bunch of MAGA married men that like to do gay stuff

when their wives aren't around. And this is very well known all in Republican states. It's just now because of Grindr, they can actually track it. I have to correct myself. Apparently, Tim Scott married his fiancé. Oh. So I'm wrong. I apologize.

Big ups to his wife. Color theme was lavender. I will say in the in when in the RNC in 2004, I think we had a couple of people on who were talking about all the activity that was happening. I think it was like back pages at that time or I can't remember what it was or the Village Voice classifieds. There was a lot of action, a lot of gay action happening

around that convention. But again, apologies to Tim Scott, obviously. I hope the marriage is going well. Congratulations. Yes, they really make a lovely couple. I wonder if Big Titty Brian was the maid of honor. He would have looked so beautiful. I want him to be happy.

I want him to be happy. I do. I want Big Titty Brian to live in a world where he doesn't have to wear Christy's pink panties. I want him to go be able to find his own. And I would even take him shopping too. Same. We should do that. Let's get together and do that.

All right. Well, Jen, a real pleasure. So excited for your book to come out. And really appreciate the work you're doing. doing on your show. I think you reach a whole new swath of people who have become politicized. And you're doing a service to all of us and really appreciate it. Thank you both so much. And I want all of the majority report listeners to know that when I entered this space, Sam and Emma are so welcoming and so friendly and so supportive. And I just

thank you both for that. I look up to you both so much. Oh my gosh. Thank you, Jen. All right. Thanks, Jen. Folks, we're going to take a quick break when we come back. Francesca Fiorentini, comedian and host of the Bituation Room, will be joining us because we still have a couple more clips from the Republican Convention. We have a new Pledge of Allegiance, and I think we've got to start to practice it a little bit. I'll be teaching this to my kids so that they don't get expelled from school.

We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. We are back. Sam Cedar, Emma Viglin, on The Majority Report. It is a pleasure to welcome back to the program, Francesca Fiorentini. Thank you.

And host, wait, you got to let me do the intro. Oh, sorry. A host of the Bituation Room and also hosting a live show coming up. Yes, right. On the fourth. Sorry, I didn't know if that was for me. We're really, okay, start it over.

Run it back. Not a good handoff? No, that was a good handoff. Yeah, no, I'm going. October 4th, the lodge room, Los Angeles, 1 PM, matinee, treat it like a ladies' brunch, right? That's my pitch. Oh, I love it. There's the flyer.

We'll put a link down below where people can get tickets. It was really a lot of fun last time. And we're going to have some special guests, right? Francesca, to be announced. That's right Yeah, no, it's going to be so good I'm already whipping up like Drink specials I'm putting in the

Like we're going to have like a bloody franny We're going to have I'm thinking like an Mimosa We'll work it That's perfect That's perfect So some drink specials But yeah A little matinee

I'm martini I don't drink vodka So let's I like mimosa's better Oh You won't know not always for the most part. You don't drink vodka, Emma, I think I found the one thing other than all the sports that we don't get along. I, freshman year, it was all we could get, and something happened. I think I got too drunk one college night freshman year, and I just can't even smell vodka anymore. Oh, yeah, I can't drink a screwdriver. What are you insane? I would immediately puke. Like, no, you drink a martini nice and cold. Well, I want to say also that I just got off of a couple live shows.

in Seattle and Portland. And I'm just sending you both so much love because a lot of people in Seattle, a lot of Portlanders who came out to our live shows, were so happy to see me, but also we're very excited at the prospect of possibly Emma and Sam coming to the Pacific Northwest and a lot of majority report fans.

So I may have promised them that I would get one or both of you out at some point in 2020. Well, I've never... never been to Seattle or Portland. And it's like, it drives me crazy because everyone says how great it is. And I've been to really random places all across the country, you know, going to those Trump rallies. But for some reason, I never got up there. So I'd love to get out there. It's, it's white. And it's just a very, it's white, but it's great. And it's white, but they're great. I mean, it's so white. Matt was doing. a bit when we were doing stand-up.

Matt's doing a bit about gangs, and the bit is about how, like, I miss gentrification so bad, it almost makes you miss gangs. And the joke didn't land because gangs in the Pacific Northwest are all-white nationalists, so they don't have the concept of, like,

you know, Latinos, black folk, like, like, again, even the sort of like stereotypical racist concept, it was very funny. It was funny. It was like, oh, dude, even your gangs are white. that's the that's the tagline for the bituation room right I don't hate

our gangs are white I don't hate people white people is that the what yeah white people okay yeah no our gangs are white our mayor might be Nithia I don't know come out and enjoy

I need it I need no no you went to L.A. then no the gangs maybe are less white but Nithia Raman is running that's how we were going to transition to that, I guess. I don't know. The mayor of Seattle is socialist. She's very embattled now. She was on our live-bituation room when we were there.

I'm also going to take the opportunity, though, to tell you that we're going to be in Philly doing the live-bituation room and stand-up October 13th and 14th. So podcast in Philly at the Punchline on the 14th and stand-up on the 13th at the Philly punchline. And then October 15th will be in the Bell House in Brooklyn once again. That's right. Thursday, October 15th, one night only. and a little Big Brian, I think, is going to be stopping by for a set if you ever were like...

Little Big Brian. Little Big Big Ryddy Brian? Yeah. Big Titty Brian. Yes. That's me. Thank you. That's what we call you around the office.

Streamlining all my handles right now to Big Titty Brian. But Brian, I mean, you're so hilarious and it's going to be great to see you, you know, in action, you know, doing what you really love. Isn't that your Link Tree? site, big titty brine Brian. Okay. You don't know how much money I had to spend to buy that off of Brian

note. It took like $100,000. You paid him in panties. You paid him in balloons. But I had to wear each panty for a week straight. So it took months. All right.

Let's get serious for a moment. I'm sorry. This is I want to play clip number four because we all grew up knowing that our civic duty was to do the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, more or less. And fortunately, Donald Trump has relieved us of that sometimes onerous obligation. He did a remix.

He did a remix. A new pledge, ladies and gentlemen. Here is Donald Trump at his Republican midterm convention leading the audience in a new pledge of allegiance. So please raise your right hand. I pledge to the greatest president in the history of the United States that loves us so much he can't even breathe. You're pretty lucky. That I will go out with my family, my friends. I'll do it anyway.

I don't care if I'm registered or not. I'm going to try and cheat like hell like they do. There's never been bigger cheaters. I don't care. I am going to go out and I'm going to get my friends, my family. And we are going to vote on November 3rd, or we are going to vote before that. By mail, but you can't. Okay, ready? Ready?

Here's the way you're, okay, are you ready? Look, front row Joe's, are you ready? The great, oh, look at them. The great ladies of North Carolina. Positive. The amount of joy this guy is having is so disturbing. Disturbing in many ways. I don't know how else to say that.

But understand, he's going to do this Pledge of Allegiance now every single public appearance he makes, at least until the midterms, maybe after that as well. And as sort of like ridiculous as this is, they're all so into it. Big diving president who loves us so much. He can't even breathe. What was that about? I can't even breathe. That's going to be his deathbed. left red sign off. Right. I mean, I wish. I wish he went crazy.

I am wheezing so much as I walk up these three stairs because I love you. I love you so much. You guys remember he did this on the campaign trail in 2015. Raise your right hand, he said, right? He did this. He loves doing this. This is one of his favorite things to do. And also, front row Joe's, shouldn't this man once again have just been a hack stand of comic. Like, that's all he wanted. He could still tour, do the same stuff over and over and over again, um, sell out arena as if he wants to. I'm just so glad he will die before he's able to do that as a post presidential career if there is such a thing for him. But he's not funny on purpose. He's funny by accident. I feel like he would have been like, he's like Wendy Williams. He should have

had a talk show where he can gossip about Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart or whatever. That's perfect. And he's catty and he's by and he could have some fun and he gets to wear makeup every day. He should have parlayed the apprentice into a gossip daytime talk show. Trow blocking through that Jennifer Hudson intro dancing. Doing the dance. Yeah. When we say it's a cult, guys, this is what we mean. You just see this. And it's a bad look on anyone. But it is extra funny that he's like, I do. solemnly swear to cheat,

to try to vote twice, to, you know, exhum my family and have them vote. Like, you know, like that's to vote in multiple states the way so many Republicans do. And there's just openly saying it. Because, of course, because the Democrats do it. Brian

pointed out that it's all women behind him. Can we just put up the all women behind him? So they're worried about moms. And this is just one substantive point here, because when we had AOC on, and now it's getting, she said this like a month and change ago when she came on the show about her going after these Maha activists. And by going after, I mean, like, trying to appeal to them and say, hey, we may not agree on vaccines, but, you know, we can work together.

And she's trying to basically peel off that part of the coalition. They've, they're worried about the measles stuff. They're worried about the food being unsafe. They're worried about moms being grossed out by ICE's brutality. And that is why he has this wall of women behind them. And it's what, you know, Fox News covered it too after Politico Playbook pointed out that AOC had been appealing to these Maha activists. And I think they're concerned about that part of their coalition right now. So it's smart of her.

Well, especially you see these stories, you know, ProPublica had a new study out that in the last five years, deaths by ectopic pregnancies have gone up 500%. That's where the baby implants in a fallopian tube, it's absolutely survivable. It can be dangerous, but because there are abortion, I mean, bans, women are dying. Women who want to be moms are dying, like so many who have died because of abortion bans. So that's another cohort that they need to capture. There's a lot of religious women who have ectopic pregnancies. There's a lot of people who wouldn't get an abortion, but have at-topic pregnancies.

Abortion care is health care. It's all the same thing there. But, yeah, I mean, I'm sure they're just in that little square, that little window, and then zooming out. It's just Natalie Harps little group chat. That's what that is. Yeah, I wonder how effective this is going to be, frankly, in terms of the midterms, or whether it's going to end up hurting him. There's more, though, Sam.

He tells them they're going to go to hell at some point. Yeah, yeah. Are you ready? Look. Front row Joe's. Are you ready? No, no. The great, oh, look at them.

The great ladies of North Carolina is about number 300 rally. I don't know how to hell they do it. They are beautiful. Okay, are you ready? So hot. Ready to finish the pledge. So we swear that on November 3rd, we are going to go out and vote. And you know what?

If you want, you can vote Democrat, but I don't think there's one person in this room that's going to walk. I don't think so. So I don't have to preface. I don't want to waste the words. Vote Republican. Just go out. If you vote, you're voting Republican. Okay.

So help me God. I'd say just about everybody was screaming. You know what happens if you don't vote? You go to hell, you know that. Okay? You go to hell. And I don't want that to happen to you, so please go and vote. Because together we will defeat the communists.

It's funny because it's true. They're all sort of like half laughing, half like, oh, I think it's right. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to kill you. That's right. I'm going to strangle you one by one by one. And then I'm going to steal your daughters. How old are you? You preteen? I love it. All right? Then I'm going to keep your daughters in a little corral in Mar-a-Lago. And you're going to love that what I do with your dot, right? Like he could do anything. He could say anything. And by the way, this is someone who said that he doesn't think he's going to heaven. He was asked, he was like, you know, are you doing these good deeds or your, you know, agenda to get into heaven? He's like, like, you know, he's like, you know, he's like I don't know about that. And it was right around when the Epstein file started to come out. And he was, he's very aware he is not going to a nice place. I wish hell existed or haven't existed for the world of God.

He doesn't believe. He just loves, but we just were talking to Jennifer Welch about, you know, how Trump is in the model and just fits so neatly into the evangelical televangelist, grifter suit. I mean, he's just perfectly placed at the exact right time to appeal to them. It's prosperity gospel stuff. He presents himself as a really, really rich guy, and now he's ransacking the government and getting richer and richer. And he is an imperfect vessel. Even Mike Pence said this. There was this long profile of him years ago as to what he saw his role was in the Trump administration, which was like, I'm going to be a foot soldier for this imperfect vessel to achieve God's will and he was willing to eat a lot of shit until really January 6th to do that.

So, I mean, he is a prosperity gospel preacher type, basically like, hand over your money to me. I'm scamming you openly and you're going to like it. And follow me and do whatever I say and don't think about it and have blind faith. And that group of people that he's saying, when he talks about, you're going to go to hell. he's aware of it too and that cynicism is really dark even as he's having the fucking time of his life up there

I mean imagine if Kamala Harris said you're going to hell for not voting for me yeah that would be we would years later we would still talk about and you know what

I'm sorry I'm speaking and you know what if you don't if you don't I'm speaking I got the You're all going to hell. Okay. That's a pretty good Kamala. I can't really, but can you imagine that just did the laugh? We should say that Donald Trump is not just threatening his voters to go to hell if they don't vote for.

Well, I mean, that's the weird part too. It's like he another part of that convention he was talking. talking about like, you know, what's going to happen if the Democrats win in terms of, you know, empowering Iran. He has, at this point, in terms of Congress's willingness to engage, has total control over what we do in Iran. And he understands he has to provide materially for people. And so he is promising, and this is clip number two. It was on the tarmac at the joint base Andrews last night, or I guess it was two nights ago,

en route to the Republican convention. And he's made some promises about what's going to happen if he gets elected. And only after that. Go? Well, the attacks are made by us. We've knocked out nine of their ships. I would say that the attacks are caused by us, yeah. And you're going to see a lot more.

We've taken out about nine of their tankers. Many of our guns, though. Mr. President. We're going to find out. Oh, I think the war is going to end immediately after the election. I think the war will end immediately after the election. Because they can't hold out any longer. They're desperate to try and affect the election.

election so that we can get a nice, weak group of people in there and leave them alone and let them have their nuclear weapon. All they want is a nuclear weapon. And if they had a nuclear weapon, the whole world is in deep trouble. I know it doesn't make any sense to apply logic to this. Your mics off. Your mic's muted. Can you hear me? Sam. Yeah. What's going on? I can't hear Sam. Okay, Sam. Yeah. Okay, now we can hear you. Sorry. I'm going on. Just the

logic here is that the election that Iran's going to end the war after the election. Yes. And because they're hoping that the Democrats get in to allow them to have a nuclear weapon.

Like, it's unclear whether Trump is arguing that they have a nuclear weapon now or that they're going to in the future. Supposedly we got rid of that. I mean, it's, it is so convoluted and there is absolutely like just no, there's no accountability within our system anymore for the absolute total bullshit that's going on because so much of this Iran war, it gets conflated with Israel's interests. But this is just absolutely absurd.

Everything he's saying here is absolutely absurd. And also really sad because the truth is that if Democrats do take the House and, you know, inshalla, more, you've got people like Jared Moskowitz on the Foreign Affairs Committee. I mean, there's no promises that unless we have a change of leadership, the Democrats actually would pull out of this war, would stop the war themselves. They could, again, you know, Emma always talks about, you know, the sunken costs and just keep, you know, keep it going, 25-year anniversary of 9-11, and of course, all the wars that came afterwards. But there's another way to read what he's saying, which is, I will end the war if we win in November,

i.e., I'm going to hold the electorate hostage, and I'll stop the war that I started if you keep me in office and my ilk in office. He's a mafioso. So what are the two tactics that he's trying? bribery. And I hesitate to say cash payments are bribery because a party should be offering material gains for their voters, right? But because he's so insincere, because he's lied about these dividends in other contexts throughout this administration the second time around, like, we know he's lying about this $5,000 payments. So he's using bribery and, what'd you say? Hell. Hell. Hell. And threats.

There you go. Bribery and threats. That is how he operates. And he's a mob boss. That's his mode of governments. Democrats should come out and say we're giving $7,000. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but let's continue.

The election so that we can get a nice, weak group of people in there and leave them alone and let them have their nuclear weapon. All they want is a nuclear weapon. And if they had a nuclear weapon, the whole world is in deep trouble. Are you still hoping for a new? I also enjoy the tail that seems to be hanging from the top of his head during that clip. He's trying a middle part. Let him, let him, you know.

Can we just go, just to put up a frame of that. It really is pretty, I mean, I know we're so far past that, but what is it like that tail on the, is that just a swoop or what's going on there? His swoop is being pushed aside by the wind. To Francesca's point, Look, you know, I'm sticking with the side part until I die as a true millennial over here. But I mean, I like, when something works, I don't really switch it up. I have like shirts in the exact same color and I just rotate them through.

So I don't like to have to think about these things too much. So your female Sam is what you're saying. A hundred percent. Fuck. Really odd. Fuck. Fuck. All right.

Just letting that sink in for a second. Yeah, so anyway, but it's never too late. Point being for him to try a middle part. He's Gen Z. What? Brunette. Remember he was Brunette as of a week ago? I know.

That was weird. I don't know what happened there. Maybe they switched up the toupee because he was 100% at one point wearing a toupee for a speech. But he can't pull that off outdoors. No. Not with the wind the way. I mean, it's a scalper placement. That's what you're like, why is it look so messed up?

It's the scalp replacement. Yeah. Pre-trips to Turkey. Exactly. Where they very, Sam, you watch The Apprentice, right? I watched a little bit. I mean, I definitely saw it. No, not the show, the movie about Trump.

Anyway. It's very good. But they do, they do portray, they do portray the scalp reduction surgery in it. And it is gruesome. It is gross. So highly recommend that movie, by the way. You guys are political nerds. Everyone should see that.

But, all right. I don't want to feel any empathy or sympathy. Like, I don't. You won't. You won't. It's also made by an Iranian filmmaker. It's so it's not, it's very appropriately critical. Trump tried to get it.

Oh, okay, beautiful. When he won, Trump was trying to, or it was, it came out prior, I think, in the fall of 2024. And Trump was essentially threatening to, like, like, you know, block the distribution or retaliate against these, these companies if he got back into power. So it's very good. People should. It's like I still haven't seen Vice, you know, about Dick Cheney. So much better than Vice. Vice is very ham-fisted. And I don't think a very good film. We lived it. We're living it. Yeah. Let's change pace here for a moment, because I'm

curious, both you guys are feminists. Not anymore. No. I mean, it's kind of cringe. It's kind of cringe. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just for female supremacy at this point. I'm done with equality. That's like so 2007. Totally. I want to just get your take on this because Stephen Crowder and Jillian Michaels got together to talk about the state of women in this country.

This is a couple days ago. I'm curious as to your takes on this. Jillian Michaels, I don't think she had her AI, so she didn't know exactly how to respond to some of this. You take it and reduce it from the most extreme example, Lindsay Clancy. And I would agree with this as an extreme example. But who's more likely to abuse children in households? Mothers, not fathers.

Who's more likely to commit domestic abuse? And when you, again, look at the stats. One way domestic abuse. And I hate to say it, it's very high in lesbian households. I know that you're not part of that. But you know it's higher in lesbian households than it. It is in heterosexual households and gay households. When you eliminate two-way physical abuse, when it's one way, it's like 70% women.

Towards children, it's women. But our custody laws reflect, not all, though, and the way we actually legislate and the way we actually convict people is, but not all, though. And so that's not a justice system that can actually sustain itself. It's not one that men can trust. Here's the thing. When you look at like a jobs report. And 90% of the new jobs. I think we need to be sympathetic to Stephen Crowder's predicament here.

It's well known that his wife left him in the wake of him being verbally abusive to her when she wanted to use the car while pregnant. And he did not want that happening. Did not want her to have the ability to drive away. So much so that she released the ring cam footage. I think so. Yeah, that was also an argument over her. She was eight months pregnant, visibly so. He's sitting on his ass on a lounge chair outside. And she was afraid, I think, to give the dog the medication that they needed because she was concerned about it being toxic for the baby. And that is also the context of their argument in that video is that he wants her to not worry about the kid and just do her duty and give the dog the medication. Okay, but he was going to start pulling his weight once the babies arrived. You just, you know, when they say like, get sleep now, sleep now before the baby.

That's what he was doing. He was sleeping. Then I don't know. I'm going to hear him out on this one. But I love a Jillian's really trying to agree, but does not know where he's going. And also is like, think this is a little bit more about you and your case, custody battle right now than anything else. but you just named Lindsay Clancy. So what are we talking about?

I mean, could he not have any modicum of self-awareness about how much of a stereotype he is right now, a guy going through a divorce, who initially kicked it off by complaining that Texas had no-fault divorce so that his wife was able to leave him more easily and is now bitching about custody. Like, you've got to realize

you're a parody of yourself at some point, Stephen. Also, I don't know where he's getting any of these stats. I'm reading some... FBI releases domestic violence special report on February 11th of 2026. And law enforcement reported more than 11,000 domestic violence murder victims and an additional 1.1 million victims of domestic violence. Nearly 75% of the victims were female. The data showed that, now maybe he...

he's arguing that somehow that is skewed because the, that their partners were also female, but men perpetuate the vast majority of severe physical harm and homicides. So maybe he's just sort of like saying, but when people are yelling at each other, that he considers to be like dual participation. however he's parsing this is fascinating. And before we get back to it, I just want to point out one thing because he's right about these job gains no job gains for men, which is interesting. So this is a chart.

Talman Joseph Smith of New York Times tweeted it out here. But I think initially it's from this statistician Mike Consul. Men have gained no job since Trump took office. So all women are gaining jobs, and that's primarily the health care sector because that's the only part of our economy that's growing. But yeah, but they have gained at least half a centimeter on their dicks. Okay. That's that's statistically true. You know, and Trump did that.

Trump did that. Trump did that. I just, I thought that when we ethnically cleanse the country of all of these Latino people, that all of the jobs were going to be going back to hardworking American men. guess not well the trade war with Canada hasn't kicked in yet so it's coming and it's going back to the men I mean he's making three arguments he's like Lindsay Clancy women are crazy

and women more often harm their children which is not true and then lesbians are very violent with one another have you noticed that men are not ever abusive in lesbian relationships it's not crazy

crazy I can trust. Here's the thing. When you look at like a jobs report and 98% of the new jobs this last month went to women, men are going to lose faith completely in the institutions because we're in the era of feminism, right? Women make up more of the workforce. Women make more money. Women make up more of the college degrees.

Now, they're more miserable, unhappy than ever, which leads to worse outcomes, mental health outcomes for children as well. I think we need to shift one thing, and that's what I've talked about. Just shift it from, we have a society that's focused on women, men are expendable. Not all, not entirely, but as a general rule. It's been a feminized society by definition. Shift it from, hey, what does a woman need to what's best for the child? And if we do that, a lot of this changes, and guess what, dad's back in charge. But we've pushed them out of the picture, legislatively, politically.

And so if you want to restore trust, then we need to restore trust institution. probably get back, you know, to dancing with the one we brought. Like, I'm not talking about 19th Amendment. Dude, dude. I'm talking about universal suffrage. I have never seen somebody more in desperate need of a therapist. Like, you can't do this on air, Stephen. This is too revealing about what you're going through.

It is not a good look. Too bad. Daddy's back in charge. Deal with it. I'm the man again. You know, dance with the one you came with. fucking bitch you broke my eye and her liberation's actually bad for the kids

it's making them unhappy it's making them unhappy hasn't that been his argument ever since this whole thing blew up was like actually if she had less rights things would be better all around and then of course he's got to make it relevant so he talks about Lindsay Clancy

and this is what Matt Walsh has been on about this you know all the right is sort of seizing on this which is like women need to suck it up, stay home, and just raise the kids, and don't say shit about shit, you know, love their role. And then, and I'm like, okay, that's fine. Let's go with that logic. If that is true that that's what women should do, then the right is effectively saying, we are absolutely okay with more women suffering postpartum, psychosis and depression,

going off the rails and murdering all of their children. Because that's the tradeoff. If you want to say women should do this role, no matter what, have no rights, nobody checks in with them, no mental health, you suck it up, then you have to be okay with women, again, outliers and disproportionately not doing this, but occasionally murdering their children in horrible, gruesome fashion. Are you okay with that? I'm not okay with that. I think that's awful. I think that's terrible. So like, but that's the kind of line they're trying to drive home is that if only Lindsay Clancy had sucked it up, to say nothing of the amount of times she tried to get help,

speaking of our health care system. Can you tell us about this case? I don't know enough, but I know that the right is trying to make it into something like that the left is supporting this woman. I've not seen any leftist do so. It's not even leftist. It's just women. Women online and especially moms are talking about how real postpartum depression is. Obviously, postpartum psychosis is a very, very, very small number of postpartum issues. but the idea, this whole thing is being weaponized as a culture war, is like women need to be more grateful. The reality of the case that, again, ended in a mistrial,

there was some kind of weirdness with this judge. There was one juror out of 12. There were three men on the jury and nine women. You can imagine who the holdout juror was, but 11 were in agreement of acquittal or, you know, agreeing that the plea was insanity. And then one was this holdout. And so that ended into mistrial.

The judge, like, sort of didn't handle it well. But the reality is that Lindsay Clancy tried to seek help. She told everyone, including her husband, I don't feel safe around my kids. I have thoughts, awful thoughts. There are voices in my head telling me to hurt them. There are voices in my head telling me I have to hurt them now. She did not want to be alone. She texted her mother.

There are text messages. Please, mom, stay with me. I feel, I'm not safe. She checked herself in to inpatient psychiatric care and was let go two days later. The reports from that stay were never shared with her therapist that she had been seeing only through telehealth. So all the ways the health care system failed her. On top of that, she called the suicide hotline twice. So again, what happened, she kills her three kids, throws herself out of a two-story building after slitting her throat.

Awful, horrible, horrible things, right? I had no idea that she had so many attempts to get help before this. I had no idea. She had so many attempts. And the system, in a lot of people's opinion, let her down. And according to 11 of 12 jurors, they agreed that she was insane. She was put on 13 different meds in the span of four months, I believe it was. She felt like the meds were not helping clearly.

She was on the wrong cocktail, and she didn't get the help she needed. And so, yeah, let's make it about how bombs. are ungrateful. Aren't you the ones who want to force everyone to have birth? Why don't you fucking, you know, legalize abortion again and maybe people can choose if, again, if your version of events is correct,

which again, the rights version is not. That was very helpful. Thank you. Yeah, no worries. Stephen Crowder's interview with Jillian Michaels after he gets back from his he-man women haters club meetings. I guess I'm curious if she's

going to address the fact that he says, are more violence than give her a chance and others. We can put a bet on this on Kalshi. Go ahead. Back, you know, to dancing with the one we brought. Like, I'm not talking about 19th Amendment, just repealing that.

I'm talking about going through all. Universal suffrage is a big problem, and it's been a loophole that feminists and Marxists have abused, but my prescription here's, if you want to actually have a representation of, if you want to be governed by those who can actually govern, who can sustain a country, you

cannot have this society where people are voting simply because they're here on this soil, voting based on feelings, and voting in their own self-interest. So, net taxpayer, household voting, and as long as there's a draft, only if you're in it, we either do away with the draft or only the draftable vote. That's my three-point solution. There is, you'll get some blue dog Democrats. That's as bad as it gets. Listen, I can get on board with that completely. Just from my identification, because you and I have touched on the topic of draft, but never fully flush it out. I honestly don't understand.

I thought that we were going to draft women. I had this conversation. I mentioned to you with Rob Wrigal, who was a Marine, maybe two years ago, and he's like, I think it's great. Come on down. I didn't know that didn't happen. I did see Hegseth then turn around a year. Okay. All right.

She doesn't want to talk about the other stuff, so she talks about the draft that we don't have. You know why? I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it. Can you imagine being in a domestic relationship with Jillian Michaels? she's throwing a lot of things at you. Like, there's a lot of broken dishes.

There is some headlocks that turn into like weird makeup sex. Like, there's like, it's not a safe situation in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I won't speculate on that, but I have seen how she treated people on the biggest loser. So it doesn't seem ideal. I find it just astonishing that she can sit there and say that she is on board. He is literally, you would lose your right to vote, essentially, or your household would only have it. Now, of course, if it was up to him, he would reverse marriage equality as well. So you really couldn't qualify as a household if you were in the same-sex couple.

But her capacity to just sit there and nod her head, I mean, should in her world, in his world, should she even be allowed to be on a microphone? To have her voice in any way amplified or transmitted seems impure. And why are we really letting the, of all due respect, ladies, the ladies to engage in this conversation? No, and she's got to agree. I mean, that's the whole thing, is that you're cool on the mic so long as you agree with patriarchy. It's kind of, I don't want to have empathy, but it's sad. It's so pathetic because have we seen any women on the right kind of make a breakout from, I mean, I want to say, Emma, what do you think?

Like, is Tommy Laron one of the only people who's had, like, sort of a difference of opinion? And then she got disciplined and is back in line. Now she doesn't say anything about abortion. That was her thing, right? Yeah. Yeah. She went away, changed her face, and came back and pretend to be a different person. Exactly.

It does, to your point, like, I think perhaps we've all been there, right? Maybe when I was younger, too, like, shrinking my... On this show. Yeah, on this show. Sam's like, am I right? Well, I didn't even want to agree with him just now. I felt like I had to. Exactly.

We're just like... I was like, actually, I thought Jillian and Stephen made some good points. Right. Once you started expressing opinions, I lost. faith in the institutions. Right, exactly. But I do like, you know, you were, I remember wanting, I'm going to an all-girls school, right? All I cared about if we're boys were paying attention to me and being opinionated about politics and knowing what my opinions were. Like, I had deep shame about that for a long period of time. And it was because I wanted to be

agreeable. And I wanted men to, like, want to be interested in me and yell. about the Iraq war wasn't like the hottest thing at the time. And so I don't know. I mean, and then you have to grow out of that. And it's a self-esteem thing. But there are a lot of women that are in situations where they've lost their sense of identity or maybe they got to it in their 30s, but they don't have a spouse that's able to support it.

And that's just countless, countless conservative households, evangelical households all across the country. And then when there's this mental health episode that this woman, this horrific crime that she did, but it was because of she wasn't listened to in the medical establishment didn't take care of her adequately, it's turned into a culture war of women hating and she's made an example of as well. So it's dark stuff. It's really, it's really dark. But apparently we're in the age of feminism. I mean, Trump was openly fantasizing about as when Kamala entered the race about her getting. punched in a ring with Tyson, I believe, and talking about how she was such a slut.

But apparently we're in the age of feminism, according to Stephen Crowder. I just feel like we need to make laws that are, you know, men-centric. Like, I love how he's doing, like, we need Spike TV in the year 2026, you know. Yeah. The premise of that being that no other TV is catered towards men. Right. Right. Right.

Right. Right. It's right. he's mad about his divorce. Yeah. And he's going, this is his, I will tell you,

the number of right-wingerers that used to call into Air America, if they were men and they were 95% men, the first question I would ask them was, when was your divorce? And they would say within the past 18 months or something. Oops. It is just an incapacity to do anything other than to sort of like deal with why their wives wanted to leave them and project this out on a, this is a gender problem.

This is not a me problem. It is an issue that is intrinsic in women having rights in our society. I just feel like Crowder should do what other divorced dads are doing in the year 2026 and join. ice. I put my application in and I have not heard back. He's too much of a coward honestly. And the bar is

really, really, really low. The guy has a panic attack when he has to debate somebody. Exactly. He can't catch his breath. Sam. He would murder somebody in eight seconds. Like he'd be like that guy when the acorn fell on the car and he started shooting. That would be

Stephen Crowe. Exactly right. Exactly right. We don't want to elicit that kind of fear in him. He'd be tea bagging everybody. Just as a way to cope. But they would deserve it. I would watch that. He would be a part of...

There'd be ten other guys. There'd be ten other guys teabagging in the ice locker room anyway. Yeah, right. Should we do number nine? I'm going to have... I have to piece out. Oh, okay. Francesca, we will say goodbye to you. Maybe I guess we're going to do a freebie Friday today. But Francesca Fierintini, folks can check out the bituation room on YouTube. And you want to tell your dates again?

Yes, here in L.A. at the Loddrum with Emma. She's coming out 1 p.m. It'll be a matinee. Loddrum is a great, great venue, y'all. So come through. That's in Highland Park, October 4th. And then October 13th at the Philly Punchline, October 14th of the Philly Punchline, that's an obituation room live. Melini Stamp and Kim Kelly are going to, are my guests along with Matt Lieb. And then October 15th in Brooklyn, the Bell House with Matt Leib and Brian Voki. Oh, I am excited to come to that. I will be coming, yes. No, no, you're not. Yes, we are.

And we're going to say, good luck, Brian. We're so proud of you. Are you going to tell him good luck? No, I'm not worried about the reinforcement. but I'm just the last face on earth I'd want to see besides my own father is probably Sam looking after you

doing comedy. He hasn't seen you? No. He'll be be be be be be booming. I'll be just, I'll be fun brown. Sam hates comedy. Oh,

you hate comedy? Oh, okay. As soon as Brian gets on the stage, I'm going to yell out, that's my boy. All right, y'all, you're the best. Bye.

Thanks so much for joining us. Let's just, let's just, let's just, let's just, um, freebie Friday. Freebie Friday. Yeah. Let's play this clip number nine. This happened two nights ago. I don't know if the interview was on YouTube. Like, this is, when you think about the freak out that we had from all of those Twitter files, people,

all of the free speech absolutists. This is literally, like, exactly why we have a First Amendment. It is direct government threats on freedom of expression. Like, it couldn't be more, this is like if you were setting up on day one in law school, in a constitutional law class, and you were going to talk about, This is what you would, this is what, this is the hypothetical you'd come up with. I mean, you know, we had, and we've seen this time and time and time again. But here is Jimmy Kimmel two nights ago announcing why the interview that he did with James Talleyco will not be playing on ABC, on his ABC show.

A large number of Republican lawmakers are not coming to the convention due to scheduling conflicts and also not wanting to be anywhere near him right now. They're very nervous about the midterms, and rightly so. They're in serious danger of losing Bigley. They're in danger of losing a Senate seat in Texas, of all places, where James Talarico is leading a piece of human silly putty named Ken Paxton there. Tomorrow night, I'll be interviewing James Tala Rico tomorrow night. under unusual circumstances.

You know, for a lot of years, for the whole 20-plus year of our show, in fact, I've been interviewing Americans who are running for office with no problem at all, just like Letterman did, Leno did, Arsenio, et cetera, et cetera. I've interviewed a lot of political candidates, from Hillary Clinton to Ted Cruz to Donald Trump himself. I interviewed Donald Trump when he was running for president in 2015, and at that time, when he was the one sitting next to me, he seemed to have no problem with the idea of talk show host interviewing candidates. In fact, he was very eager to come back for another interview,

which he did just before he became the nominee in 2016. But for some reason, and I can't seem to figure out what that reason is, something has changed. Now that he's president, his FCC, has threatened me, threaten our show, threaten our network, ABC, our affiliates, our local stations based on simple, traditional, editorial decisions, guest bookings, it would seem they don't like. And so out of consideration for our local stations,

especially our ABC affiliates in Texas who would have to deal with this nonsense. My interview tomorrow with James Tala Rico will not air on television. It will be posted on YouTube instead. It will not be on TV. So if you want to learn about a candidate for the Senate tomorrow, you will have to go to the Jimmy Kimmel Live YouTube channel

where you will see it in its entirety. And thank goodness we have that. Because in the America we live in right now, that is the best that we can do until November. of course. Make sure you're registered to vote, by the way. That's the most important thing you can do. Nuts.

Nuts. I mean... I mean, first off, it is it is just so flagrant. And the idea that I can't, I can even put on,

you know, get on Twitter without seeing it, this being broadcast all over it is sort of, shocking. But also, if I'm James Tolerico, this is going to be somewhat helpful, I would imagine. Strise and stand affecting it to a degree. And it looks as petty as possible. And with Trump, as Kimmel mentions, being such an albatross around the necks of these Republican candidates this cycle, it's, I think, going to be just another piece of evidence to show how closely aligned, Paxton is, with Trump. Like, he's, everyone knows he's a crook already. And Trump's

poorly. Yeah. Yeah. And he's ugly and sloppy. He's ugly and sloppy. But, but Trump, I don't know if there is a Senate candidate out there right now that is in a frontline Senate race that is more, like, tied to Trump than, than Paxton himself. And this is just adding to that. And this is just adding to And we'll see, you know, they, in Texas, they redrew new maps on the basis of Trump's victory in 2024. And a lot of that had to do with Latino voters swinging towards him. And that is not what we're seeing across the country since then. We're seeing actually, like, in some instances, 40 and 50 points swings with that demographic in the other direction. So I'm not saying that's going to be the case down in Texas.

and I know that there's some social conservatism that they're trying to tap into. A lot of this is going to hinge on Southern Texas, which is heavily Latino, and they're trying to drum up this anti-trans panic as a way to appeal to them. But I don't know. I mean, Brendan Carr is also so ham-fisted, too,

and how he does this kind of stuff. Like, they botched it with Kimmel. He brags about it. Yeah, yeah. He's bragged about it. And in terms of Tala Rico, you know, it's interesting. I just read a piece where even the third way, we're saying, like, as far as like this trans stuff, we can't run away from, you know,

defending trans people's rights. We address it and then move on. The idea that you backslide, the idea that you, and, you know, you've got, like you say, Elon Musk pouring, I don't know, tens of millions of dollars into these races specifically with these anti-trans advertising. I mean, look, we don't know what the outcome of a lot of these contested Senate races are going to be, but there is a huge opportunity here for progressives in the event that you get out and vote and you get the vote out. in 2006,

Rahm Emanuel took credit for the Democrats taking back the House. Part of it was their anti-war stance. A big part of it was that there was a huge scandal at the top of the Republican ticket, or I should say at the top of the Republican leadership in the House, they were covering up for a guy who had been basically praying upon

interns and a guy named Mark Foley from Florida and they completely covered up the whole thing. Rahm Emanuel took credit for that victory

in 06 and it basically got him a job in the White House in 2008 and this is an opportunity if the Democrats win big here, progressive messaging, which so many of these Democratic establishment have said is not going to work, we'll get the credit, not as much as Rahm Emanuel in that instance,

because we don't own the levers of the establishment media and the Democratic Party. but that this is a very big opportunity for the left in this country as this goes all right go to emma solo read some iams i'll be right back yep um sickle up economy i get that it's texas i don't get that they don't get having figurative kohones is what gets your appeal Yeah, I mean, if that's in reference also to Talariko caving on the gender affirming care at trans surgeries for minors, I didn't like that at all. I'm worried about the advice that he's getting, but that that is their calculation. It's a non-existent problem for the most part. most gender affirming surgeries happen after a long period of social transition and hormones

and, you know, that period happening when these, when, uh, they're under 18. So I wish that you could that people would be addressing the fact that this is just a completely lie about the, the propensity of it, uh, head on. And if that decision is made, that's between the kids, the parents and the doctor. And it would be. after years of social transition per, you know, what we know about that kind of care. So, but do I think that it's going to impact him negatively? Not really. Not really, Talarico. Reese from Tacoma, if you want to restore trust in American democracy, give me and my kids back.

Give me my kids back. My bitch ex-wife took control because the feminist courts gave her my kids and kicked me in the nuts, basically. Robin, Rob and D.C., golly, why are people more miserable now, Stephen, can't imagine. And Sam's back. Also, I mean, I hate when people cite that women are more miserable now than ever

because it's probably the first time they've ever been asked. Exactly, exactly. Nobody was asking a housewife in the 40s what her mental health was like. But they were using the same, same mode of argument about when they were trying to deny women's suffrage when they were trying to deny more, you know, feminist liberation.

It's just like they're happier this way. They're happier when they don't have to worry their pretty little minds about, you know, all of this other gobbledygook. The men will handle that. They would also make, this is how, you know, people that were defending slavery would make arguments about how slaves were happier when they didn't have to worry about that kind of thing. Three women bored. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right. So, um, three hats and a cut. Uh, shoot. I have Donald Trump talking about Tala Rico at the GOP convention and I just want to play this because I think it's really funny that the angle they're going after Tilarico is that he's a freak.

Mm-hmm. And I don't know if this is the best way to expose somebody else as being a freak when you have such a freaky attack. Yes, this is bizarre. And let's put this all in the context. of Trump's bisexuality creeping out on a day-to-day basis. Hassan and his underwear having just been shown on the screen. Laura Ingraham can't stop salivating over AOC. Their new line of attack is that Zoron and AOC and Abdul Al-Said are hot, I guess.

And now Trump, I guess, got the memo and he's decided to get lewd with it. Here's a, here's him talking about Tala Freeco. He was also somebody that hated eating meat. But he ran a campaign to beat meat. He called it beat meat. I don't know what the hell he meant by the... These people are going to tell me what the hell is he? He wants to beat meat.

But it was bad for his image, so he started eating meat. And he recently... It's getting worse. I'm getting myself in trouble. It's getting worse. I'm so bad. I'm so bad. But he was recently seen having a barbecue and eating a lot of meat.

But that's what happened. He ate it. And then he was seen running backstage to a room and throwing up all over the place. He doesn't like meat. Wait a second. So first, it is this double entendre where he's saying like, Tala Rica likes to eat. I mean, it's a euphemism for penis at one point, right?

When he's saying he's getting himself. The beat meat, yeah. I would certainly say it's a euphemism for penis. Yes. And then he's complaining that Tala rica doesn't actually like me. I like all the men out there, you guys here at the J.O.B. You love me, don't you? So Talariko likes to beat his own meat but doesn't like to eat meat, which would make him not gay.

And so I don't get what the, what the. line of attack is about him being a freak. Either way, yeah, he's a real freak. Yeah. What a freak. What a freak. It doesn't like me. This is the freakiest human being that's ever existed on earth. I mean, to be fair to Talarico, he probably

shouldn't have shown up in leather chaps to that last campaign event. But, you know, you win some, you lose some. Meanwhile, we should remind people in terms of actual meat that Trump signed a proclamation

opening 660 million pounds of duty-free beef imports, which is not only sort of devastating for the U.S. cattle industry, it is coming from Brazil and Argentina. We no longer, or we don't, I should say, require sourcing of beef in this country. If you wear a T-shirt, you know where it's coming from. this happens a day after a oval office meeting with the owners of JBS which is the world's largest beef producer the guy he met with served time in Brazil for bribing 2000 politicians with over a $1,000?

Yes. $6 million. Yeah. He's a one-man A-pack. Mm-hmm. The, a, a JBS subsidiary after the meeting gave $5 million to Trump's second inauguration. This is way back, which was the largest single gift recorded. Then, JBS got SEC approval to be on the New York Stock Exchange, which they've been looking for for

for over a decade. All this meat, incidentally, there's real concerns about this meat because it's been treated with so much antibiotics that China rejected it. Maybe that's why Tala Rica was throwing up. Exactly. He doesn't like a meat.

He can't add a little poison in his meat. What's wrong with him? And so, like, that, we covered that, I think when both of you were out the other day or maybe you were in, I forget, but it was, that is, it's so unbelievably corrupt and

it's doubly screwing over these ranchers because it's a 75 year low for cattle right now. And with a shortage like this, you would think that they would be able to like have more bargaining power, but it already is such an

impossible situation for the rancher. because 85% of the market is controlled by four packers. And one of those packers is that Brazilian company that you just mentioned that got the sweetheart deal with with with with Trump. And this is the beef market in particular. And so now he's screwing them over doubly, not addressing the monopolistic control of the packing industry and then giving the one of them even more leverage by allowing for this exemption.

for more beef to come in internationally. As Trump was talking about America first and how tariffs and everything needs to be made here, he's because also of the compounding impacts of the Iran war, he's making it even worse with that as well because fertilizer is needed for, you know, grass and hay and stuff like that and to feed the, and corn to feed the cattle. So it's just a horrible situation for ranchers in this country. And maybe why they're a little worried about the Midwest right now. I read the American prospect that ranchers have a real beef with Trump.

It is true. I have to say, though, with this Republican convention over, it is quite clear that Trump has, he is not interested in, or I should say his level of interest in maintaining control over the Senate and the House is completely secondary to maintaining his popularity with a dwindling few number of people. I mean, this is, you couldn't have had a convention that was more tailored towards harming Republican politicians. Should we play the Federman thing? Sure. I mean, it's insane. Yeah. To your point, Sam, that's why they didn't want them to do it. It's why it's not even a real convention. It's just like an extended rally. They had like a guy that Trump pardon speak. Politicians for the most part that are like actually up for reelection don't want to show up at this thing.

First off, well, let's play this clip of Federman and then we'll talk about Federman's future. Republicans in Dallas. Yes, I'm Senator John Federman, Pennsylvania. Yes, I'm a Democrat. Why am I here talking to you today? Because, well, I'm a common sense Democrat. I'm always going to stand with America. I'm always going to reject the extremes in socialism and that anti-American way of life. Dave McCormick is the kind of senator that gets the job done, and he's going to fight for Pennsylvania. I'm proud to count him as my friend. Right back over my shoulder, that's the iconic U.S. Steel Mill. And that's exactly the kind of thing that will work together and will work with President Trump to fight and defend the steel way of life right here in the Steel Valley. I have this opportunity to introduce this great American, a great senator,

and yes, he's in a different party, but I'm proud to count him as my great friend. So for everybody in Dallas, I'm here to introduce Dave McCormick. First off, aside from, yes, his limitations in delivering a speech that you need to have like. After every four words. Every two and a half seconds. It's like, what was it, El Mariachi when Robert Rodriguez, when he first, like, his whole movie was jump cuts because the sink issues between is a camera and the recorder.

But more relevantly, A, I'm not surprised it was a video because Fetterman is the laziest person maybe serving in any job anywhere. I think according to that video, his last name was Pennsylvania. He said he's Senator John Fetterman, Pennsylvania. And did we even go through that piece in the Wall Street Journal, which outlined like how? utterly sort of like disturbing the guy hasn't shown up for work for months and months and

months. I mean, I think we can count on in the event that there is a, the Democrats win by only one or two votes that he is going to flip. He's going to become a Republican if it provides Republicans control over the Senate. My sense is if the Democrats take control, the Senate, it would be because this is a way of election and that it's more than likely the Democrats will win by a larger majority than just one vote. I don't know if they will win the Senate, but I suspect that if they do, it's going to be larger than a one senator victory. But, man, this guy just resign already. It's so clear. doesn't want this job.

Yeah, there was a moment in that Washington, was it Washington Post? It was Wall Street Journal. Yeah, there were what, like paralyzed veterans waiting for a meeting for him and he blew him off to do a Fox News hit? And then showed up 30 minutes later to like in his office after saying he was sick.

There are texts about him, which was the most relatable part to me, complaining about a three hour long funeral for three cops that got shot. Which, yeah, that seems kind of long. I get it, but that's kind of your duty. What else was in that piece? It was just stunning.

Oh, it was the children. The worst one was the Children's Hospital one, where he, the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania, they were trying to meet with him and he kept blowing them off. And the text said that he thinks that they just want a free trip down to DC, free trips to D.C. And they were like, hey, Medicaid funding, funding getting gutted is ruining our ability to provide

health care for sick children and he's accusing them of wanting vacations to, you know, the destination that is Washington, D.C. from Philadelphia, if they really want to change up the climate, you know, lay by the pool. What an asshole.

It's unbelievable. I can't believe what he, how horrible of a person he is. Whoever runs against McCormick and I think he's up in, what, 2030, um, uh,

we'll be using the Federman introduction as an ad at that point, even six years later or four years later. But what a, Jesus, what a horrible guy. Yeah, yeah. But Casey is up in 2028. Or Casey will, is not Casey. He's. Fetterman.

No, Federman. Sorry. Yes, Federman's up in 2028. Casey's going to run, he thinks, against Federman again. But my hope is that it's summer. And I would imagine Connor Lamb is going to run too. It'll be interesting.

We'll see. Yeah. Should we play this Hillary Clinton clip? Sure. I suspect that the fallback position for folks who want our

policy regarding Israel to stay the same is to blame it all on BB Netanyahu. There have been polls that have come out where young people in Israel now, their favorite politician is Ben Gavir. His party is also the most popular by young people in Israel. That's why Netanyahu is giving him whatever he wants. Like, he, that is why Ben Gavir has been given free reign to annex the West Bank, essentially, because that is the better political move for Netanyahu. There's no, like, mythical left to appeal to, like liberal Zionists have been telling us.

It doesn't exist. The coalition that he needs to win are the settlers, and he's going to give them whatever they want, and reward them if he wins in October. And yet, here is Hillary Clinton, again, with that fallback position where we're going to blame Netanyahu. Now, in this instance, the report in Haaretz, which outlines that Netanyahu got warning, multiple warnings about an imminent attack, warnings that originated with Hamas itself. And then on top of it, that same report, which was an excerpt from a forthcoming book, outlined how Hamas, multiple sources again, had offered on day one, October 7th, the night of October 7th, a return, an unconditional return of all civilian hostages, and Israel rejected it.

This is a pretty big story. and Hillary Clinton is out there attempting to, I guess, sound reasonable or edify that fallback position. And why is she out there? We don't know. This bombshell that came out in the Israeli press where Netanyahu had been literally called by, you know, Sheikh Mohammed, Mbz from UAE and warned that Hamas was planning something. And either he didn't believe it, or he wanted to see what they could plan so that then he could come down hard and it would enhance his position. I don't know what his thinking was, this bombshell that came out in the Israeli.

If you were to say that, I don't know, two weeks ago, even though this Harette's report just kind of bolsters and is more of a smoking gun for a lot of things that we already knew. If you were to say that before this, you would have been called a conspiracy theorist. But the fact that she is saying it, she's done this before, gone out and didn't she have, after Putin, we covered this, after Putin invaded Ukraine, she went, I think it was also on MSNBC, bless you, and said that this is a great opportunity, Ukraine to weaken Russia. Now she comes and crawls out of Chappaqua, wherever she lives in New York, and goes on TV to float the new centrist line, which is very much in line with what Rahm Emanuel is saying, that delusional psycho that thinks he can be president. This is going to be the right-wing position within the Democratic Party. It's regime change, and we'll maintain everything in Israel. We've got to give these psycho-leftists that care about Palestinian babies and the ethnic cleansing in Lebanon and the West Bank. We've got to give them a scalp.

And let's make it Netanyahu, but change nothing fundamentally. This will fail. But the fact that she's going out and saying it, I think, is an indication of what they're going to try to pivot to, right? Yep. Let's play this clip. I found this clip. This is number 13. And this is on Zateo.

Medellasin had Peter Beinard on with Joel Rubin, who is a former deputy assistant to Secretary of State during the Obama administration. Rubin was also an advocate out of the Jewish outreach for Bernie Sanders' 2020 campaign, I think it was. I think at one point, like, if I remember correctly, I think I marched across the Brooklyn Bridge with him. I cannot remember the context, but there was a protest there. And I think, and this guy has been out there attacking the left as being anti-Semitic because, the left like the vast majority of Americans now want a change in our policy towards Israel. And this exchange is fascinating to me because I think it shows the depth in which some people can't even hear themselves speak. The reaction, just watch this clip.

First of all, don't conflate Israel and American Jews. Right? Like, like, I am a Jew. Who's doing that? No, no, no, wait, wait, let me conclude this point. I'm an American Jew. Yeah. I am a fifth generation American Jew.

My great grandparents came here to Fleet of Pogroms. Yeah. I have a long story I don't want to bore the audience with of connection to this community here. I've served my country in government for a number of years. I served my country overseas in the Peace Corps. And to me, whenever people look at me and say, well, you support Israel. You're not allowed in anymore. That, to me, is anti-execor.

Semitic. That is a conflation that is illiberal. On the ally point, well, that's the whole point. That's why people want to have a debate in the party. Right, so kick out the Jews. To get out. Hold on. Hold on. Joel, do you realize what you've just done there? People can rewind this on YouTube. You said a moment to me again, do not conflate Israel with American Jews. I said, let's not ally with Israel. And you said,

kick out the Jews. Because that's what you said, why should we have people to support Israel in the party? Why is it? Mike Huckabee supports Israel. I don't want him in my party either. Hold on. Peter, Peter. I just need to finish my two points. Because Joel said, I'll bring Peter back in. Number one, you conflated Israel with Jews. I've not done that one point in this whole show. No, I have not. You did. You did.

I said, hold on. Everyone can just rewind. The beauty of YouTube is, Joel. People can rewind it. The beauty of YouTube is that way. I said, I said, Israel should not be an ally of America. And you said, so kick out the Jews. Those were your words.

I didn't say anything about Jews. Kick out the Israel supporters. And Israel supporters are not all Jews because they're all conflating. Yes. I mean, there it is. It is such sort of like fascinating. I mean, you know, back when I had my, you know, what ultimately became a debate with Ethan Klein about this topic.

I said then it is very dangerous, this conflation of Jews and Israel or Zionists. And it is shown to be, I think, very dangerous for American Jews for this conflation. inflation to continue. But there it is. He, you know, he had to sort of like, the fact of the matter is, is that not every Jew, all you need is not every Jew does not support Israel. The numbers are actually significantly higher than that. But, and we know that not every Zionist is a Jew. In fact, very well could be more in this country Christian Zionists than Jewish ones. Our last two presidents have been Zionists that are non-Jewish. Biden openly called himself a proud Zionist and reiterated it over and over again throughout the genocide.

Trump, he doesn't need to say it, but I mean, come on. Like, the entire Republican Party is chalk full of Christian Zionists. It's not like there are a lot of Jews that are represented in elected office on the Republican side. proportionately to the Democrats and the entire Republican Party is very male, very Christian, very white, and very Zionist. And he did that conflation there too. And the fact, he's like, I'm a fifth generation American. Oh, you're an American. Like, like, why do we have to cater to your affection for a state that is committing genocide right now? You're an American. That is what the context of the debate here, and we're talking about American military support for another country.

And frankly, in the context of politics and democratic positions, if somebody wants to have an affection for another country, be it Israel or Ireland or, you know, Jamaica or Thailand or Thailand or wherever it is, that's fine. What we're talking about is American policy. Arming Israel at this point is against U.S. law. I mean, that's just like the Leahy amendment is all you need at that point in terms of Israel. But the idea that we could be supportive of a country and more and more stuff coming out. I mean, the most recent stuff on, there was an interview with a reserve major.

So Harats, again, and a drone operator in the Israeli Air Force who commanded a strike cell. He was involved in the March 2025 killings of the paramedics in Tell Al Salton. This is his quote, you could clearly tell these were. rescue vehicles, even as fire was opened on them from the ground, for no apparent reason. The force on the ground charged the convoy. They shot the first vehicle. The medical personnel got out, hit behind the ambulances, and begged for their lives, and the soldiers shot them one after another.

Here was a quote on the so-called yellow line. The Palestinians didn't know it existed, and the Air Force wasn't always updated either from the perspective of a farmer walking onto his own land, he had no idea he's stepping into an area, the IDF suddenly decided was a fire zone. And then all kinds of retroactive justification started coming up. He came for an arms deal. He touched the ground. Maybe he's planting an explosive. To me, it looked like they were trying to incriminate people with no intelligence and no proof. On morals in Gaza, quote, the feeling was that something tore, everyone had already become cynical about death.

You can't understand it from the outside. It's not just fatigue. It's an erosion of morality, of responsibility, of the sense that someone is still managing the event. Very quickly, this whole business of collateral damage disappeared from the considerations. They fire on anyone they see. The atmosphere started to be like the stands at a soccer match, the way you shout at a player. Yala, score.

That's how they shouted a soldier. Kill him. Strike him. U.S. law says we do not provide military equipment to entities that do this type of stuff. That's just simply U.S. law. You don't have to get into any other debate associated with it. And I just also want to point out, like, more evidence of this. Naza is a documentary that just came out at the Venice Film Festival.

and obviously haven't seen it yet, but there have been write-ups of what is detailed in it. It is interviews with those who committed the genocide, basically, IDF soldiers who under the condition of anonymity gave their testimony about what they did. And people are being critical of that, but I think the value of having this information is greater than that it is of,

revealing these identities, and this is how journalism works, as stomach churning as it is. But interviewees describe, this is according to Vulture that saw the film, interview these viewees describe hacking little girls' phones to see when their fathers came home and then bombing their houses, listening while the people on the line screamed and pleaded for help, while mothers cried over their burning daughters. I'd hear the final moments of a person's life, one reflects. and, you know, there are other, I guess, reports from the documentary to that show that, like, you know, essentially all of these IDF soldiers were kind of bragging, too, about, about what they were doing. I'm trying to find another anecdote here, but I can't.

Either way, the evidence is obviously overwhelming. Overwhelming. All right. Let's read a couple IMs, and we'll get out of here. No clever name. How's David Feldman doing these days? Tell him we miss him. I haven't spoken to David in a while. I haven't been trying to, like, maybe after the election,

we can start to like, you know, have a little bit more time for stuff. I always feel like we've gotten to like half the stuff in what we want to get. There's so much news. Lowercase. Also, the main bad guy in El Mariah didn't speak Spanish or was. even an actor. He was a guy Rodriguez met in a paid medical study that kind of looked like Christopher Walken. There's a great book about that movie.

Yep. Some guy, if Lindsay Clancy is a victim of the medical system, then so is Luigi Mangione. It's not a good sign that we only want acquittals, that we want acquittals for murderers. Peaking in Peekskill. Did you all see Kansas football team pump up video for their game tonight? John Brown being featured in a college games promotional material is pretty damn cool. I did not say that. Wait. Interesting.

We've got to pull that for next week. Kansas? All right. Skidmark Twain. Are men allowed at the show? No. I'm at the breakfast show. No. Not even at Bryan's either. That fingerlake. Sorry for the early I am. I just want to have to point out that we are outraged.

that New York City covered up the poison in the air after 9-11. Our military was putting more poison in the air abroad. Every bomb we dropped in the war on terror left poison behind. Every time we blow up an oil field in Iran today, we poison the air. Indeed. All right, five more. Brandon Tartikoff, new strategy. Maybe ask Jen what she thinks.

How about the Democratic promise their own 5,000 stimulus checks if they win? How would Trump respond? Would he threaten to veto? I think we should, I think Democrats should, promised 7,000. Golden Oyster cult. Al Gore may not have invaded Iraq, but it gets worse. Perzell Miller, Democrats wanted to arm our military with spitballs. Thank God Bush was there to protect us against a million Iraqi civilians.

Brick City Born. I left Catholicism in all religion when I went to college out of state. I tried attending nearby church in Brookline Mass and was told I made the congregation uncomfortable. I asked why, and I was just told they do not offer services in Spanish. I don't even speak Spanish, but I got the priest meeting. Jesus. Greg from Pittsburgh, if there is a God, the best he can do is Trump. That raises a lot of questions about God. And the final I am of the week, Mikey Love.

I'm Senator John Federman, Pennsylvania. There you go. Brian, good job solo today. Gino, thanks for stopping by. Gino, social media guru. Yes, shout out to Gino. Do you want to say something on the mic? So people can hear your voice.

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