The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3545 - Stephen Miller, Shadow President; Texas Redistricting Fight w/ Rep. Greg Casar

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

It’s Thursday, and that means you get an Emmajority Report! On today’s show: The official DHS X account posts a racist painting featuring Nazi-coded text. A resurfaced 2010 deposition shows Jeffre...y Epstein pleading the Fifth when asked about socializing with Donald Trump and underage girls. Archival footage of a 17-year-old Stephen Miller reveals his early White Nationalist leanings. Rep. Greg Casar (D-TX) joins us to discuss Trump’s plan to gerrymander Texas to “pick up 5 seats really quick,” and his proposed legislation to ban dystopian “Surveillance Pricing.” Then, Brandon Sutton and Matt Binder join us for the Fun Half: Binder walks us through the lowlights of Hulk Hogan’s life. Ryan Grim of Breaking Points reveals Israel’s involvement in wiretapping the White House during the Bill Clinton-Lewinsky scandal. All that and more, plus your calls and IMs!   Become a member at JoinTheMajorityReport.com: https://fans.fm/majority/join Follow us on TikTok here!: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here!: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here!: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here!: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the ESVN YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/esvnshow Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors HELLO TUSHY: For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off their first bidet order at hellotushy.com when you use code TMR at checkout.  SUNSET LAKE: Use coupon code “Left Is Best” (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech Check out Matt’s show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon’s show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza’s music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com/ The Majority Report with Sam Seder – https://majorityreportradio.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to a free version of the majority report Support this show at join the majority report comm and get an extra hour of content daily It is Thursday July 24th 2025 my name is Emma bigland in Sam Seder, and this is the five-time award-winning Majority Report. We are broadcasting live, steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Gene Guerrero joins us to talk about Stephen Miller, his background, the shadow president, and later in the show, Representative Greg Casar will be with us to talk about Texas
Starting point is 00:00:56 Republicans' gerrymandering scheme and what Democrats need to do about it. Also on the program, Israel has starved over a hundred Palestinians to death. Half a million Palestinians face catastrophic food insecurity that will leave lifelong health issues. When you're that hungry, your body starts eating
Starting point is 00:01:20 its organs. The Israeli parliament overwhelmingly approves a motion on West Bank annexation. The Wall Street Journal reports that Pam Bondi told Trump in May that he was in the Epstein files. Before the cover-up, interestingly. I'm so sick of this conversation. Let it be.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? The DOJ is going to meet with Galeen Maxwell today, by the way. Yes, that same DOJ led by Pam Bondi. To make a deal, I mean to get down to the bottom of the tree. House Republicans join Summerlee's oversight motion to call for the release of the Epsiene subpoena ahead of the August recess. But look over here. Tulsi Gabbard says she proved Obama engaged in treasonous conspiracy. Even though there is no shift in the intelligence assessment, it's just, you know, you gotta say what the dear leader wants to hear. Columbia University settles for $200 million in Trump's shakedown over false claims of anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm old enough to remember when Columbia banned Jewish voices for peace in November of 2023 for anti-Semitism. The Washington Post reports that ICE is moving to shackle 180,000 immigrants with GPS ankle monitors. A federal judge in Tennessee orders Kilmar Abrego-Garcia's release from detention as he faces false trumped up charges about human trafficking. And a federal appeals court in California says Trump's efforts to repeal birthright citizenship are unconstitutional. Lastly, the Trump administration is striking down a decades long consent decree that forced
Starting point is 00:03:22 a Louisiana parish to desegregate. Just because, hey, we got to give a shout out to the Nazis and the Confederates. All this and more on today's majority report. Matt, hello everybody. They reminded me of your tweet that got covered in an immediate article because it was a very astute observation, but hello, Matt. Hello, Brian. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the show. You figured this out, Matt.
Starting point is 00:03:53 So they tweeted out this weird, like, Homeland Security painting. What was this? Yeah, well, I didn't figure this out necessarily. A lot of other people did. I also just commented on it, but Department part of Homeland Security you can put to put this up put up a painting of by John gas called American Progress, which is actually the Piece I used critically I would stress as the cover right for my podcast literary hangover But they also posted some text here a heritage to be proud of a homeland worth defending.
Starting point is 00:04:26 American progress, John gasp. Now people pointed out that this is exactly 14 words, which is relevant because this is a secret Hitler signal by Nazis at Homeland Security. You'll notice the two H's are capitalized. That was the first thing I noticed. Oops. Yeah. H's are capitalized. That was the first thing I noticed. But also the A and the D. A is the first letter, D is the fourth. H's are the eight. 1488 is a Hitler, sort of a secret
Starting point is 00:04:55 Hitler code basically. Because yeah, H is the eighth letter in the alphabet, so that would be two H's together meaning Hitler. Correct. And, you know, go back to Emma. This is something that the Department of Homeland Security was doing in Trump's first term. There was a press release where they said they lost track of 1,488 kids. And then they also had a sort of thread that was actually sort of explicitly invoking the 14 words pledged by white nationalists about securing a homeland for our children or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:31 That tweet's also 14 words. Exactly, I mentioned. And so- Which is a white supremacist domestic terrorist slogan, basically. And some people might think that is a little bit far-fetched but I would suggest no it's not it's something it's a explicit pattern. It's not far-fetched they've been doing this over and over again and this is gonna be very relevant to our conversation with Gene Guerrero about Stephen Miller and her work you know investigating his background because he's all all over
Starting point is 00:06:00 this stuff this is this is his language and this is probably at his direction or one of his minions across this kind of thing. Yeah, I had a tweet in 2019, in light of Stephen Miller's white nationalism being documented, we should revisit stories like these dismissed by many at the time as eerie coincidence. There should be more panic about Nazis in power. I mean, this is Laurie Voss in 2018. I think this, I wonder if they took this down, but you can still see in the URL. But the URL was we must secure border and build wall, make America safe again. That is like the invocation of the we must the 14 word slogan. There's another one here where HHS issued the number 1488 four months prior. Health and Human Services Department recently told
Starting point is 00:06:47 staffers that case managers could not find 1488 children. Again, this is 2019. And how that number arrived that they never decided to describe. And Stephen Miller is just a Nazi. That was a wink and a nod to the white nationalists and to the Nazis that are paying attention. Yeah, and there's emails that show Stephen Miller being a big fan of, oh, I forget the sort of European white nationalist book, but there were emails that came out.
Starting point is 00:07:16 This is, he is conversant in this actual type of terminology. So this is just Nazis winking at each other as, you know, border patrol signs people up for six-figure jobs with $45,000 assigning bonuses. And yeah, we'll be talking more about this in just a second, because the depth and the extent of Stephen Miller's belief in far-right ideas has been investigated by Jean and goes very, very deep. But let's talk a little bit about the top story, at least in the news right now, which is, it's Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, this is fun for us here at the Majority Report to a degree, not because we're trying
Starting point is 00:08:04 to be flipping about the hundreds of... Sorry about it. I need to just take a quick break. Cut to the new break here. Your video is stuttering like crazy, so we're going to have... We are back. Sorry about that, folks. We're not sure.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Hopefully my video isn't freezing anymore. Hopefully the tubes aren't clogged up, but I think we're back. A tube got clogged up, yes. I mean, Al Gore's got to get on that with the internet. Okay, so we're back. We're back. We're back. Let's just do this quickly then.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So yeah, the biggest story in the news right now is obviously the Jeffrey Epstein stuff and the fact that Trump cannot shake this story. And I maintain that it has such broad appeal because it's this very low barrier to entry kind of political story that has so many of the frustrations that are widely felt by the American public wrapped up in it. It doesn't need to just be the salacious, titillating way that the right kind of approaches it as, or the anti-Semitic way often that they engage with the Jeffrey Epstein story and the secret cabal of Jews that are pedophiles, basically, or Democrats or degenerates.
Starting point is 00:09:55 You don't need to be a QAnon person to find this story as compelling, even though honestly when I hear kind of moderate or mainstream voices talking about it, they try to put it in that box, but it's not that. It's a story about elites that get away with unspeakable crimes and there's no recourse, seemingly, and that there's these people at the top of our society that are hoarding wealth, that are unfathomably rich, and most of the rest of us are living paycheck to paycheck and don't have any financial security, and these folks are robbing us blind. And even when they do something like have a pedophilic sexual assault ring, they don't get held accountable. That's why I think this story is so significant. And Trump, for years, because of the unorthodox way nature, and because the Democrats frankly enabled this, and because he was so uncouth, was able to position
Starting point is 00:11:05 himself as this outsider who is outside of the widely reviled establishment of both parties. And this has been enabled by the Democrats' appeal to these mythical moderate suburban Republicans. I mean, there are some of them that are going to vote Democrat, but not in the numbers that shift elections, as we saw in 2024. Instead of tying Trump to the Republican establishment, they pursued that strategy. But what I think this story does is it shows that Trump is a part of that elite that is so widely hated in this country. And more and more is coming out. CNN found some footage that they released from Donald Trump in the late 90s with Jeffrey Epstein showing how buddy-buddy they were at this Victoria's Secret fashion show. They also revealed, it was K-file at CNN, that Epstein was at Trump's second wedding to Marla Maples.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And now Midas Touch unearthed this video clip as a part of this drip, drip, drip. And of course, the big Wall Street Journal article from last night showing that Trump was informed that he was in the Epstein files in May. Now we're seeing a part of Epstein's testimony. Here he is pleading the fifth about his personal relationship with Donald Trump. Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump? What do you mean by personal relationships? Have you socialized with him?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yes, sir. Yes? Yes, sir. Yes? Yes, sir. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18? Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today, I'm going to have to assert my fifth, sixth, and 14th amendment right, sir. That's interesting. That's interesting. So he did answer more affirmatively about their relationship, but then pled the fifth about the girls who were underage.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It's just so many different little coincidences here that are just stacking on top of one another. I mean, I remember Vice covering this covering this like before this last election cycle I don't know why it wasn't a campaign commercial. I'll tell you why exactly why because they ran Hillary fucking Clinton Yeah, this is the story you're talking about. This is key This election I meant oh well, I will know they mean they were still to put they sent Michigan they were still trying to like like keep the Clintons in the fold even though It is the most obvious political prudent thing to throw them overboard Just as we're like, I mean, this is Ken Silverstein in 2016
Starting point is 00:13:57 The salacious ammo even Donald Trump won't use in a fight against Hillary Clinton, but he he mentions this exact exchange somewhere But there's I mean, it's a worthwhile to go into it, but you know, that video was from 2010, right? It was the 2008 primary where I first heard it like on NPR or something that Hillary Clinton had a liability because Bill Clinton had been taking flights on the Lolita Express. This is not suppressed at all except by the political freaks who run campaigns. And you know why the fact that that information is out there and there are like people that are
Starting point is 00:14:33 consuming this online, right? This is the information overload age and everybody is super online now and and the Democrats are so slow to catch up to that. But why it is a liability for them to continue to protect or not engage with the story and why it was just so egregious is the fact that it creates that credibility problem too. Because people are seeing the story. It's outrageous. Elites are implicated. And then the Democratic Party isn't talking about it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It's like the stuff with Gaza. If you don't stand up on this issue, are you going to stand up on other issues? And obviously it's different things. But the reason why it's an issue that has staying power is it because it's reflective of a populist anger in this country in my view that is entirely righteous and the Epstein story is just a salacious way to expose the rot that is already there. So keep it up it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. But I don't think this drip, drip, drip is going away, especially if like, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:51 the Trump administration is doing such a bad job of putting a handle on it. In a moment, we'll be talking to Jean Guerrero. But first, a word from one of our favorite sponsors. Hello Tushy folks. You know, you want luxury in your house. Old school luxury, it's shiny, kind of wasteful, doesn't actively change your life. New school luxury is restorative, transformative, essential every day. The days are the new bling." Now Sam has talked about how this has transformed his life, transformed his bathroom habits. I'm not sure I'm necessarily as comfortable talking about it as Sam, so I'll lean on his experience to say that he waxes poetically
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Starting point is 00:18:34 a link to this below down in the description hello tushy.com code tmr alright quick break and when we come back we'll be joined by Jean Guerrero. All right, folks, we are back. Unfortunately, I don't think our guest is going to make it. So we're having some technical difficulties to start the day, some guest stuff, but you know, we forge ahead. That's what we do. But, you know, I guess I didn't want to not talk about Stephen Miller today. So let's talk about Stephen Miller today because Jean, it's unfortunate she couldn't make it.
Starting point is 00:19:49 This book is good. You can listen to her. It's called Hate Monger, Stephen Miller, Donald Trump and the White Nationalist Agenda. You can read her or listen to her interview with Sam, if you'd like. Back in 2020, it was around, you know around two or three months before I joined the show, where she speaks about this book. But I did want to talk more about Stephen Miller or revisit this material, especially in light of what we were seeing out of LA, with LA and Southern California being specifically
Starting point is 00:20:21 a target of Stephen Miller's ire. And I have read parts of the book too, so I can speak a little bit about what she wrote. Stephen Miller is like functionally, I think we've been talking about this, kind of the shadow president, right? He is one of Donald Trump's longest advisors at this point. I've been saying the longest and no one's corrected me on that.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I don't know who it would be if there's been a longer serving one. I mean, Bannon, but he's not in an official capacity, right? In an official capacity, Stephen Miller is basically his longest advisor, which says a lot about Donald Trump. And he was the architect of the family separation policy in the first administration and is now responsible for the fascist rounding up of Latino and also Muslim people too are being targeted, Middle Eastern people, Iranians, so Persian people too are being targeted by the administration basically. If you're brown and you're an immigrant or maybe a second generation immigrant, you're
Starting point is 00:21:36 the subject of Stephen Miller's ire. Or if you're a white person and Palantir's AI has shown that you've tweeted about Israel or something, you might have a headache at the border as well, not to the extent of maybe going to CICOT like just some other people, but. Yeah. And as I headlined, the administration is currently floating this policy of putting ankle monitors on around 180,000 migrants. And I think the number is like 25,000 currently have these ankle monitors and it's because of like, you know, past dealings with the law and things like that. But like, it's a massive surveillance expansion. And DHS, the money for contract contractors to oh for pal I mean for whoever gets the deal. It's a good money
Starting point is 00:22:31 Palantir probably or someone else. Yeah, there's a lot of this competition. That's the only place there is competition, right? Exactly, right. Um, and and so he he's just explicitly a fascist and a Nazi. And his connection to Southern California is part of what I wanted to talk to Gene about, which is just that since we saw how LA was targeted by the ICE raids as the show of force and with the deployment of the National Guard by Donald Trump over Newsom's objection.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And the early part of this book talks about how Stephen Miller, as a teenager, would basically harass students in school for speaking Spanish. His father had some financial struggles, and he then had to move to a more or less affluent neighborhood in Southern California. And that seems to be where he funneled his hatred, because he was now in a school not in the fancier part of Santa Monica. He was in a school that, God forbid, had some fellow students that spoke Spanish. And the book talks about how there were multiple instances of him going up to kids and say
Starting point is 00:23:44 speak English in the United States. He also had a middle school friend who Jean interviewed for the book, who spoke about how Stephen dropped him when he found out that he was I think half Mexican and had a call with him and they were good friends and would talk on the phone all the time about like, you know, movies and things and that Miller dropped him because of his Mexican heritage. And Jean also grew up I think around the same time in Southern California as Stephen Miller. So in the book, she talks about how like the environment was explicitly very racist at that time to towards Mexicans towards Spanish-speaking people in Southern California and
Starting point is 00:24:32 This is around the rise as well of MS 13 Which is a gang that did not originally outside of the United States it originated in prisons in Particularly LA but in parts of the US. So you can see how all of these confluence of factors paint a picture of what the immigration policy has been. It sounds like it came from the mind of a little twerp Nazi who still hasn't gotten over the traumatic experience of having to be around Spanish-speaking people at his new school.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And I'm sure we've played this clip before, but for the sake of the posterity and the picture I'm trying to paint of this freak, just a short clip of Stephen Miller and what he was saying to the student body in terms of his pitch to them, I guess he was saying to the student body in terms of like, his pitch to them, I guess he was running for some sort of student office here in high school. He lost by the way. Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash? And we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us.
Starting point is 00:25:44 So plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us. So plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us. That is him saying that we shouldn't have to pick up trash. And I've seen even people that went to that school on TikTok, I was looking for it, but saying everyone knew who he meant when he said janitors. It's not white people. Oh yes. He gets off on the and takes great pleasure in and might even admit it. Seeing people that he views are lesser than him doing work for him or doing work that he would describe as menial or probably in his way degrading and forcing them to do it and not showing common courtesy.
Starting point is 00:26:25 This tracks pretty well with the dehumanization of immigrants and the abject, horrible treatment that we're hearing about in both CICOT and then in these Florida facilities. There's more information that's been coming out now that the men that the Trump administration and Stephen Miller imprisoned in El Salvador have been freed in this exchange of prisoners that the Trump administration negotiated. One of the stories here I want to read really quickly. One night in mid-May, some of the Venezuelan migrants deported from the United States to a prison in El Salvador tried to break the locks on their cells with metal rails from their beds. It was a futile gesture of rebellion. No one thought they could escape. Still, punishment was swift.
Starting point is 00:27:23 For six consecutive days, the inmates were subjected to lengthy beatings, three inmates told me. On the last day, male guards brought in their female colleagues, who struck the naked prisoners as the male guards recorded videos on their phones and laughed. The female guards would count to 20 as they administered the beatings, and if the prisoners complained or cried out, they would start again. Tito Martinez, one of the inmates, recalled that the prison nurse was watching. Hit the piñata, she cheered." This is in an article in the Atlantic where that came out yesterday where they interviewed some of the Venezuelan
Starting point is 00:28:05 migrants that were deported to the El Salvador prison and then of course were kept there in unspeakable conditions for such a long period of time. This is also a part of the book, good thinking here Matt. The Southern Poverty Law Center has all of these emails that Stephen Miller had when he was emailing Breitbart, I guess, with ideas and feedback. He was a huge fan of right-wing talk radio, Larry Elder's show too, he would call in and that, that, that is a big, yeah, a big bit a loser calls into Larry Elder show cool people call into New York sports radio so Matt what's this part? Well this is this is just some of his emails and I
Starting point is 00:29:00 mean actually this is their their entire sort of collection on it but one of the books that he read and the one I forgot, was The Camp of the Saints, which is just an explicit sort of European Nazi book about hordes of non-white people coming and overrunning Christendom and that sort of thing. This is how this guy thinks. He's not trying to save people or make economics better for people in general. He's trying to Do Nazi stuff and that's what that's all this is right now and I know it's it's pretty grotesque that he
Starting point is 00:29:35 People have been calling for including Ilhan Omar been calling for his resignation since this story came out where it's like Oh, look at this guy's how deep he is into just white supremacist thinking and nothing ever really happened of it. He maintained his position and now he's even back. But when people say he's a Nazi, it's not in the colloquial sense. It is in the objective sense that he's a Nazi and he is Trump's longest running advisor and he is running a giant Gestapo slash goon squad in Department of Homeland Security and ICE. Yeah and he there's another chapter here that says there it's chapter five there is no Palestine which
Starting point is 00:30:18 goes into his rabid Zionism and his hatred of Palestinians that was kind of fleshed out in college. Stephen Miller grew up in a Jewish household, but there, Gene wrote about how he was more rejecting of like Jewish traditions and was wanting to embrace the idea of being an American and American values, right? So you can see how Zionism and far-right fascist ideology are connected there, not to Judaism, but to his his fury about Muslim people, because this also goes into how, yeah, he was in high school, I guess, in the 90s, but not when 9-11 happened, he was still a young adult. And that was the other motivating factor of hatred, which actually feeds in quite nicely to this video here that, or maybe he was still in high school. I'm not exactly sure I'd have to double check that says he was 17 Okay, so he was 17 in 2003. So
Starting point is 00:31:33 The god he's Not that old this is him talking about what we should do to the people of Iraq to the issue of the Iraqi civilians I should do to the people of Iraq. To the issue of the Iraqi civilians, I think that as many of them as should survive as possible because the goal of any military conflict is to kill as few people as possible. But as to Assad and Hussein and his henchmen, I think the ideal solution would be to cut off their fingers. I don't think it's necessary to kill them entirely.
Starting point is 00:32:02 We're not a barbaric people. We respect life. Therefore torture is the way to go. Because torture people can live. Torture is a celebration of life and human dignity. We need to remember that as we enter these very dark and dangerous times in the next century. I only hope that many of my peers and people who will be living in this country will appreciate
Starting point is 00:32:24 the value and respect that torture shows towards other cultures. As he smiles. Someone was reading Sam Harris. Oh my gosh, zoom out on me a little, I'm pretty zoomed in. That does sound like a little bit of, he probably wasn't to that kind of thing, the Sam Harris new atheist thing. In defense of torture. I think he's even to the right of that.
Starting point is 00:32:51 He went to college with Richard Spencer. Richard Spencer is a white nationalist who famously was punched and the internet celebrated back around 2017 or something like that, but they went to Duke together. And Richard Spencer is someone who, despite being a white nationalist has expressed admiration for Israel at numerous times saying he wants to do a white Zionism here, which is kind of what Cotton Mather and those folks were doing too. But the racialized element, it was still kind of like Christianity then. The race, the sort of white supremacy element developed over
Starting point is 00:33:25 like the 1800s and 1900s into fascism. And now these guys find common cause. It's just two nationalists doing nationalism together. And so there's not a big, despite the surface level contradiction between Zionists and white nationalists, like there's actually a through line of just nationalism. I mean, exactly. And supremacist nationalism, I'll say. And you'll see, you hear the arguments directly from Nazis and white nationalists that are explicitly envious of Israel because they like the idea of a state being reflective of a
Starting point is 00:34:08 specific ethnicity and then maintaining that demographic majority through domination and subjugation and violence. That is their vision too. I'll just add, since they're litigious, that Stephen Miller denies what Richard Spencer said about him being his mentor at Duke. I don't believe Stephen Miller at all. I think he's a liar and a Nazi. Yep. Well, that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Okay, folks, we're going to take a quick break and when we come back, we will be joined by Representative Greg Kasar to chair the Progressive Caucus to talk a bit about what's happening down in Texas with redistricting and what Democrats are going to do about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We are back and we are joined now by Representative Greg Casar of Texas's 35th Congressional District, Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Congressman, thanks so much for coming on the show. Emma, it's good to be with you. Great to see you. This is a really important story and it's hard again with this fire hose of news to get your hooks into anything in particular, but this is going to be the fight it seems to me over the next year or so with these efforts
Starting point is 00:36:46 to gerrymander even more aggressively. The Republicans are trying to do this in Texas. This week, the Texas legislature has been in a special session basically debating this kind of thing. Texas currently has 13 Democratic seats and 25 Republican seats, which in my view doesn't already, already doesn't reflect the state's kind of diverse voting population, but they want to reduce the number of Democratic seats even more by five or six. Just tell us about what's happening down in Texas right now. Yeah, this is a five alarm fire for democracy and what's going on right now.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Like you said, there's so many things happening in the news, but this is actually the really big one. Because if you ever want there to be any kind of accountability or check on Donald Trump's corruption or on people continuously being kicked off their healthcare or on immigration or on any of this, the typical line, and I've been saying it, and I've been, I think, naive, is around organizing for the midterm elections to build a majority that can hold him to account. But Trump does not have a plan for winning those midterm elections. He has a plan for rigging the rules before they even happen. And if he comes in and gerrymanders even further, already extremely gerrymandered Texas and
Starting point is 00:38:11 gets away with it without cost, Trump has already said that he has plans to go and take this to state after state after state. So then once we're running in those midterm elections, it might be too late and we can't let that happen. And Texas redrew its maps in 2021 is my understanding. What is being proposed here that would even more aggressively gerrymander the state? So Texas Republicans have already extremely gerrymandered the state as you laid out. There would be, look, remember Ted Cruz in 2018 didn't even get 51% of the vote in Texas. So we can be relatively close to a 50-50 state in a wave year, but they've got us already
Starting point is 00:38:58 two to one, Democrat to Republican. For them to gerrymander even further, and I try not to be alarmist with people, but for them to gerrymander even further would require drawing the kind of map that we haven't seen since before 1965. Because when people marched and bled for the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act, those laws were passed so that you could no longer dry map like what Donald Trump is demanding in Texas. It would require to get five more seats.
Starting point is 00:39:30 It isn't getting rid of five Democratic seats. It would require chopping up communities of color in maps in ways that have been illegal for decades, for longer than you and I have been alive. Right. And that's what they would do. And if they're able to get this Supreme Court to rubber stamp, then end of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act as we know it, then they could spread this all across the country. And that's what they're trying to do.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And they'll put even Republican incumbents in danger while doing it. And usually you wouldn't expect them to do it, but these guys don't follow the law of their own political survival. They're just Trump's water boys. And so if you've got Republican incumbents that will do anything and potentially the end of the Voting Rights Act, that's what Trump is trying to take advantage of here.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It also protects the Republican representatives from recourse and from backlash from their own constituents. you know, so many folks were asking Well, there's all these Trump voters that are on Medicaid when they Got the program and kick 17 million people off their health care. Isn't there gonna be backlash from some of their constituents? How about these rural hospitals that are gonna close in? Really really red districts. The problem is that they're really, really red.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And so they've been so aggressively gerrymandered that it not only doesn't just protect Republicans from like a majority or, you know, in Congress, their numbers, it also, it seems to me, protects the existing Republicans from, like, democracy. Well, that's actually how it traditionally has been. But here's the interesting thing, Emma, and then this, we want to get to what people can do to fight back against it. Yes, for sure. Is that traditionally they've kept them extremely red.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But for them to go so far to carry Donald Trump's water and go for five Democratic seats, some of them may wind up in pink districts because there's just, you just can't disappear the millions of Democratic voters, especially in our cities. At some point, they're going to vote. And so that creates actually an opportunity to harness that backlash. And that's our opportunity for stopping these maps, or at least imposing a huge cost on them for putting them in place.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So we've got basically a three point plan for fighting this and not all doom and gloom here on your show. Point one is we've got to buy time so that we can execute the strategy I'm about to lay out. And Texans have a great tradition of buying time with filibusters like Wendy Davis's filibuster against abortion bans here in Texas and quorum breaks. The Texas constitution says that if the Democrats
Starting point is 00:42:11 basically leave the floor and the House or the Senate, you shut it down. And so we need to buy time and national attention and national support for that strategy will be critical in Texas, but also your viewers here and listeners across the country. And step two, you're like, what, Greg, what will you do with that time? We can mobilize enormous resources to run against the Republicans who will now be in
Starting point is 00:42:36 much lighter red or pinker seats. Because if Trump is demanding that they give up a bunch of their voters and move it around to get rid of Democratic voters, these Republicans could be newly vulnerable. We can recruit great candidates there. And then our third state is, we've got, third step is we've got to impose a huge cost on them. And that's why I think it's really good that Governor Gavin Newsom is saying he could start redistricting in California so that Republicans reap what they sow. And if they think they can pick up a few seats in Texas, well then we damn well better start looking at
Starting point is 00:43:10 picking up seats in states with Democratic governors. This kind of strategy, buying time, bringing people together all across the country, running at the Republicans that won't stand up for their own constituents, that's the way that we stop this wildfire from spreading, not just across Texas, but all across the country. We can't just let Trump run rough-god over the Voting Rights Act.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Otherwise, he'll just be totally unaccountable. Yeah. And we should say that the Supreme Court has kind of enabled this level of racist gerrymandering with their previous decision striking down parts of the Voting Rights Act. But you mentioned Gavin Newsom and California and how they are talking about fighting back. Can you explain to folks the state of these blue states and their redistricting process? Because Democrats have kind of long held on to this belief that while Republicans are going to be partisan and crazy, let's just maintain nonpartisan
Starting point is 00:44:12 redistricting committees in blue states like California or New York. Illinois, I believe, has done some of its own kind of more partisan gerrymandering to fight back against Republicans. But our biggest, most populous states, that's not the case. So speak about that a bit more if you don't mind. Yeah, look, I am for deeply for getting rid of gerrymandering across the country. What I'm not for is letting Republicans follow their own sets of rules and have an authoritarian power grab while we are Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts failing our own constituents. So look, if California having an independent commission inspired Texas to have one, that
Starting point is 00:44:58 would be great. But that's not what's happening right now. California having an independent commission is rewarding people like Trump and have it to come suppress the voting rights of millions of people of color in my state. So in my view, I think the actual progressive but living in the real world attitude should be California should have an independent commission that is triggered when Texas has one. New York's independent commission should only draw an independent map once Florida has one. That's how we actually get to a level playing field and get rid of gerrymandering across the country. Otherwise, blue state governors protecting independent commissions is what enables there to not be independent commissions, especially in the former Confederate states.
Starting point is 00:45:46 That's the reality. So we've got to be progressives living in the real world where people are suffering right now. And then hopefully we can elect a majority, a pro-democracy majority in the Congress to just pass a law banning gerrymandering nationwide. I'm not saying that we get rid of independent commissions for a state legislature, for example, because there they all play by the same state's rules. But it doesn't make any sense for Texas to suppress voting rights
Starting point is 00:46:13 and then California not to do anything about it because, you know, they've had this commission for a while. And can you speak a little bit about Trump himself and his role in trying to pressure Texas to do this? You mentioned it earlier because he's worried about the midterms and he just wants to subtract seats. But it is unusual, to say the least, to have a president weighing in on this so publicly, so aggressively. And you're just assessment of what you just described as authoritarian. And I would share your, your view.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah, look, Donald Trump, uh, it's been widely reported, made it personal phone calls into Texas to say, you are giving me five of your seats. I mean, these Texas Republicans who say that they're tough and independent are being told to completely redraw their own districts in order to allow a president to do continued cover-ups. That's what's going on here. And remember, Trump learned this lesson after the 2018 election where he lost the majority in Congress, and suddenly there could be subpoenas and investigations against him and his corruption and his criminality, there suddenly his legislative
Starting point is 00:47:25 agenda could be blocked. He doesn't want that to happen again, because his prime and criminality and corruption is like 10 times worse now. And so he is basically telling Texas Republicans, I don't care about you or your constituents or your seat. I only, Trump only cares about him covering for himself. And now they've got the choice about whether they're going to stand up for themselves and their state or whether they are just Trump's boys.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And that's the question that's before them right now. I mean, we just went through this devastating flood where people in the county that I'm in right now died and lost loved ones and family members and their children. We could be focused on relief and rebuilding, but Trump is telling Texas Republicans, no, your focus is redistricting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:13 What did he say when Epstein came up when in the aftermath of that flood? He said we have Texas to worry about. He said it sounds like a bit of a desecration to bring up. I mean, what it might be a bit of a desecration to bring up the, I mean, it might be a bit of a desecration to not, you know, focus on the families affected and just make it about your own power grab, but I digress. Exactly. But the thing I really want folks to come away with knowing is that this is in many
Starting point is 00:48:39 ways the ball game and that no matter where you are across the country, you can help. Call your governor, call your member of Congress. Elevate this issue. Because this is Trump trying to rig the election before we even have it. And so it is time right now, and those Texas legislators who get something like $6,000 a year for their job. I mean, them having to take the risks of fleeing the state
Starting point is 00:49:04 or doing filibusters and this kind of work, they could really use your support fighting for our democracy right now. It's starting here. Absolutely. We'll put in, we always have the congressional switchboard in our comment, in our description, but we'll direct people to that as well so they can make those kinds of calls. And especially if you're in a blue state like New York, like California, start to say, you know, we want to fight fire with fire and your representatives, they'll listen to that kind of thing. Let's move on to something else
Starting point is 00:49:34 that you're working on here. You introduced legislation that would ban surveillance pricing. There's a great write-up about it in the American Prospect that I'd encourage people to read. Of course, David Dayen's always on it. But if you don't mind explaining what this legislation is designed to do and what the problem is that you're identifying here. Yeah, whether you know it or not, you could be getting your prices jacked up or your wages pressed down by companies that spy on you, take that data and run it through AI in order to basically jack you around. What my bill does is it bans the practice
Starting point is 00:50:17 of corporations doing this. Think about it like this. I think that it should be illegal that an airline knows that you googled a Family obituary and then individually for you pushes up your ticket prices because they know that you're desperate To get to a funeral or on the wage side I think that we should ban the practice of a ride-sharing app for example knowing that you recently visited a pawn shop
Starting point is 00:50:45 because they know your location and they know you've hit hard times and so then they start offering you a lower wage on DoorDash or a lower wage for a ride sharing app because they know you've hit desperate times. These companies should actually have to compete on improving their products, not compete on using AI
Starting point is 00:51:04 to squeeze every last penny out of you. I mean, that's an incredible story that Uber has been accused of this in particular, reducing driver wages in real time based on their movements that would indicate desperation. I mean, this is like extremely dystopian stuff here. Well, some of what we've heard about is that some of these models could also be tracking your battery life, right? Think about it, if they know how much battery
Starting point is 00:51:35 you've got in your phone, of course, that is trackable data, then they could offer you a more expensive ride because they know your phone is about to die. Right. I mean, this stuff is terrifying. And part of the problem is we don't know how much of this data is being used for this. We've got to bring these practices fully into the light.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Delta Airlines, for example, just announced that they are going to start increasing surveillance or at least artificial intelligence pricing. It currently priced 3% of their tickets using AI. They just said now that they want to price 20% of their tickets using artificial intelligence. That might mean that competitors who may not even want to do this, let's just give people the benefit of the doubt for a second. Let's say somebody didn't want to do this. There could be the competitive pressure for them to do it as well. You know, we want airlines, we want
Starting point is 00:52:29 our products to improve. And that's why we would pay more, not for them to figure out how desperate you are and then just squeeze every last penny out of you. I mean, how does this not violate price discrimination laws? This is textbook price discrimination, but just because they're using a fancy computer doesn't mean that they're not discriminating. Yeah, I mean, we've got to update our laws, right? As you know, the kind of common sense one is, a gas station should not be able to jack up your gas prices
Starting point is 00:53:00 because a hurricane is coming. But with the rapid development of artificial intelligence, this is an area that has gone largely unregulated. And we know that when we try to apply our laws from a hundred years ago, oftentimes these big lobbies go and beat us up in the courts and oftentimes win. And so it's really time for us to make very clear
Starting point is 00:53:25 that this practice is illegal and banned. Look, artificial intelligence is gonna keep on growing, but I want the government to set up guardrails so that that AI is being used to say, detect early onset of lung cancer. I don't want that AI to be going and detecting, you know, how low my battery is and that they could charge me more or what I googled so they can charge me more or that I'm under hard times and they can pay you less. And basically, if
Starting point is 00:53:56 you want to hear the industry defense here, Emma, say that this is okay, they say that they are is the industry term. they say that they are, this is the industry term, they say that they are just using our private data to find out our quote, willingness to pay. And that, you know, and they say, well, you know, if your willingness to pay is a little bit less, maybe we can charge you a little bit less, that's good for you.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I mean, give me a break. Willingness to pay is just how much is the most we can charge you or the least we can pay you. And I don't want companies competing, spying on us. We want companies to actually have to provide a better product and pay people what they're worth. I saw that some members of Congress signed on to this letter, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, yourself, Bernie Sanders, Cory Booker, etc., on enforcing the Robinson-Patman Act of, I guess it was the 1930s.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Can you talk a little bit about your signage onto that letter and how that connects with this legislation you've introduced, if at all? Yeah, I mean, look, the set of laws that we created in the 1930s and in the 1940s, from Robinson-Patman to Packers and Stockyards, the ways that we recognized coming out of the Great Depression, that massive consolidation of the economy, price gouging, and essentially the Elon Musk's of their day trying to buy the government helped cause the Great Depression.
Starting point is 00:55:32 We've got to learn from that today in the modern day. And today in the modern day, we've got to be dealing with the fact that we don't want artificial intelligence jacking up our prices and getting rid of our jobs. We've got to be really careful with how cryptocurrency seems to be getting more and more deregulated or lightly regulated. We need to have learned our lessons from the 1920s about speculators and deregulation. So I think a modern progressive movement and I hope a thoughtful, forward-thinking Democratic Party, could present to voters that we see the problems that are coming in this century, and that we could be inspired
Starting point is 00:56:15 by sort of the OG progressives and populists of the 1920s and 1930s. We can try to enforce those laws, and we should. But dang, I think we also need the 2020s version and the 2030s version of solving these problems. A lot of them rhyme with the problems we had 100 years ago. Oligarchy today rhymes quite a bit with oligarchy from 100 years ago, but we also need to recognize that they're using new tools and we need to propose new laws
Starting point is 00:56:45 to deal with those very real problems. And people know it. I mean, you open up an app, it's immediately already asking you to accept terms and conditions for 50 different things. My legislation kind of answers the question for you of what are they wanting all this data for? Right. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:01 That this is educational as well as like something where people should call their representatives and say, hey, support this legislation. I mean, this is the kind of thing that we want to say we have a functioning Congress that should be being passed to protect people from these kinds of practices. Lastly, Congress, before I let you go, I wanted to ask you a bit about because we're here in New York and Zoran Mamdani's victory has been just this enormously exciting moment for the city. And the leader of the Democrats in the House, Speaker, or not Speaker Jeffries, Hickey Jeffries, has not endorsed Zoran Mamdani.
Starting point is 00:57:42 What's your reaction to that and what has the reaction in Washington being within at least the or the reaction of the Congressional Progressive Caucus to his victory and what that signals about this kind of politics within the Democratic Party? Look, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently had a big meeting for folks on the Hill with Mr. Mamdani. It was a great meeting. I've gotten a chance to speak with him before his win and afterwards. It's impressive. It's I think a powerful message that he's been focused on every single day about loving
Starting point is 00:58:21 the city of New York and making it affordable for everyday people and being relentless on that message to have achievable progressive goals that appeal to everybody, like buses being fast and free. I know that he had a meeting with leader Jeffries recently. I haven't got an update on how that meeting went, but I'm encouraging everyone in Congress and across the Democratic family to endorse and support him because look, I agree that we do need a bigger tent that includes more voters and with more voices inside of the party and creating a bigger tent also includes the very progressive and further left parts of the party along with voters that might
Starting point is 00:59:05 be more moderate than Mr. Mamdani on a variety of issues, we need to build that big coalition. But oftentimes when we hear some of the more, in my view, some of the more cynical voices saying we need a big tent, they're talking about adding like big bank CEOs to the tent but they don't want Mamdani who inspired millions of people in the tent. Look, our tent should include the broad variety of voters, and that includes leaders like Representative Mombani and the huge number of volunteers and activists he inspired.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So like, when we talk about building a big tent, which I do think progressives need to be committed to doing, that doesn't mean kicking progressive voters out of the tent. It does mean adding people on both ends of the spectrum. Now, does the tent include lobbyists that want to preserve the carried interest loophole? No.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I mean, that's not real voter skies. But unfortunately, I think some of those big money interests are oftentimes trying to drive negative coverage against Mr. Mamdani. And I think that would be to the Democrats detriment to not include what Zoran is doing into our work. And well said. My last real just follow up about it is, it's not just to me, you mentioned that it's the message that breaks through. I think there's a lot of focus on like, how can the social media team be as good as his and things like that?
Starting point is 01:00:26 Where like, I'm hoping that the Democrats are understanding that it's the policies that are driving the enthusiasm. And I know the Congressional Progressive Caucus understands that. But like, when we're talking about the bigger tent thing, the tacking to the suburban Republicans and constantly appealing to them, it hasn't worked out. We have Donald Trump once again. So like, this is more of a not as much of a question. It's more just like, can you see your colleagues embracing that? Because I think it's really key for our democracy that they do. Yeah, increasingly, I think folks are. And I think that goes back to the actually
Starting point is 01:01:06 including a lot more voters idea here. You don't have to go and have some watered down, means tested corporate checked policy in order to bring in some of those, what some folks watching here might call like a normie voter. No buses being fast and free as Mr. Mamdani said is something that everybody can understand and everybody can click with certainly I mean his videos and social media are amazing But like you said, it's not just the marketing strategy It's actually the policy product that inspired a lot of people, right? Like freezing the rent in those buildings where he can and making buses fast and free is the kind of thing that can inspire millions of people.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And what I'll tell you is in the meeting that Congressman Ocasio-Cortez hosted for Mr. Mamdani in Washington, DC, you had more than just the usual suspects there, because I do think that if we want to defeat not just Trump, but Trumpism, we need ideas that are bold and universal and easy and simple to understand. Right. Donald Trump was lying when he said he was going to go support the working class. But when he says things like no tax on tips, it is bold.
Starting point is 01:02:21 It is a universal idea. Of course, he ended up not really doing that and screwing over service workers. But we should learn from the fact that you don't have to be, you know, like you just said, a comms superstar to be able to reshape the Democratic Party and Democratic politics towards something that everybody can understand and see themselves in. And I think we should be learning that from Mr. Mamdani's campaign right now. Well, really appreciate you taking the time today to come on the show. Representative Greg Kassar, Texas's 35th congressional district chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and call your members of Congress about this redistricting fight.
Starting point is 01:03:00 It's immensely important. Thanks so much for coming on the show. Really appreciate it. Thanks Emma. Y'all take care. You too. All right with that folks we're going to wrap up the free part of this program and head into the fun part of this program in just a second. This support, this show relies on your support everybody. If you feel so inclined please go to join themajorityreport.com, become a member of this show. It helps us survive, it helps us keep going.
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Starting point is 01:03:50 be no ads in there. Yes. Join the majority report dot com. You can also go to shop dot majority report radio dot com to get our merch which perhaps we could make this a little bit more uniform, but I digress. Matt, what's happening on Left Reckoning? On Left Reckoning, we had Alex Salmonon talking about his piece on the Roosevelt Hotel and how it was briefly a Ellis Island-style processing center for hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers. And then it was demonized by the right wing like the actual original L.S. Island would be today and then shut down by Eric Adams
Starting point is 01:04:32 because of some IMF loan stuff with the state of Pakistan. So kind of depressing that there's really no voice or no place in politics to voice like oh here's how we can actually, like say process the thousands of people that we're driving out of Venezuela as asylum seekers because we decided to destroy that country's oil industry for political reasons. We can actually process people who seek asylum in like the commitments we made after World War II and the Holocaust require us to and but we just haven't really been doing that. So picture on the cops is left reckoning that
Starting point is 01:05:10 to get that conversation. Check it out people and we now have our friends Brandon Sutton and Hat Binder. Hat Binder. That's a good one. I well I'm wearing a hat. Okay. All right. Hat on Matt. Matt in the Hat. What's going on on your shows? I did a stream last night at youtube.com slash Matt Binder took calls. I talked about the Trump Epstein latest updates. A whole bunch of things. Check it out youtube.com slash Matt Binder and then of course tonight at that same YouTube
Starting point is 01:06:02 channel 8.30pm Eastern time left this mafia I'm sure there'll be a lot to talk about including this latest breaking the news about Hulk Hogan oh yes I'm sorry for your No, I'm good. I I lost the Hulk Hogan that existed on TV many many many many years ago Decades ago the the guy that played Hulk Hogan is a horrible person a bad guy Maybe maybe we'll talk about that in the fun half. I don't know. Maybe we will
Starting point is 01:06:40 Hello Brandon, what's happening on the discourse? well today I Hello, Brandon. What's happening on the discourse? Hello. Well, today, I mercifully spared my audience talking about Trump and Epstein. Instead, I subjected them to a member or at least an affiliated rapper of the Wu-Tang clan, a Wu-Tang affiliate, an adjunct associate professor of Wu-Tang University, debating flat earthers about the shape of the planet. Oh, all right. And so we'll be watching the second half of that debate.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Things are getting heated. A lot of accusations have been thrown around about Jesuits and things are getting heated. We're going to finish it tomorrow. Can you explain briefly? What are the accusations thrown around about Jesuits? What did Jesuits have to do with this? They invented science and also misinformation. Oh, you got to do both. It was really to the Black Pope and the secret order in the Catholic Church that actually controls like the Catholic Church. And, you know, obviously the Black Pope is immortal, but not a vampire. But he can control people's minds and is affiliated with the Illuminati, but did not commit 9-11.
Starting point is 01:07:53 That's at least he didn't do 9-11, but can I ask how he manages to be immortal? You and him? Hmm? How does he, how, he's, okay, all right. He's immortal, is he, but he's a pope, but he's not you'll have to you'll have to tune into the discourse to find out Okay, you're right. I mean, well, it has piqued my interest to be honest with you clearly. So I Agree. All right, check out the discourse and We will head into the fun after we'll take your calls and read your IMs. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I'm gonna let go of the stress of our first guest not coming. I'm still clenching. You got stood up? Wow. Yeah, we got stood up a little bit. But yeah, I know his name is Cate. It happens. It happens.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I had to wing it. You were having an emotional breakdown. I had to wing it. And I'm through it now. So anyway, we'll see you in the fun. You should have put up. Okay, Emma, please. Well, I just, I feel that my voice is sorely lacking
Starting point is 01:08:50 on the majority report. Wait, whoa. Look, Sam is unpopular. I do deserve a vacation at Disney World. So ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show. It is Thursday. I think you need to take over for Sam.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yes, please. Sir, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I a little bit for Sam. Yes, please. Sir, I'm gonna pause you right there. Wait, what? You can't encourage Emma to live like this. And I'll tell you why. So I was offered to work sushi and poker with the boys. To work sushi and poker with the boys.
Starting point is 01:09:19 So I was offered to work sushi and poker with the boys. What? To work sushi and poker with the boys. Tim's upset. To work sushi and poker with the boys. What? Twerk? Sushi and poker with the boys. Tim's upset? Twerk? Sushi and poker with the boys. He was offered a Twerk? Sushi and...
Starting point is 01:09:31 Ah, that's what we call biz. Twerk? Sushi and poker with the boys. Right. Twerk? Sushi and poker with the boys. We're gonna get demonetized now. I just think that what you did to Tim Pool, uh, was mean.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Free speech. That's not what we're about here. Look at how sad he's become now. You shouldn't even talk about him. I think you're responsible. I probably am in a certain way, but what's offered with twerk? Yeah. Sushi and poker with boys. Logic. Twerk?
Starting point is 01:10:06 Sushi and poker with boys. Boy, boy, boy. Twerk? I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid. Little kid. I think I'm like a kid. Twerk?
Starting point is 01:10:13 I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid. Add this debate 7,000 times. I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid. Twerk? I'm losing my fucking mind. Some people just don't understand.
Starting point is 01:10:23 So I'm not trying to be a dick right now, but like, I absolutely think the US should be combining me with a wife and kids. That's not what we're talking about here. What? All right. It's not a fun job. Twerk. That's a real thing.
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Starting point is 01:11:13 It's illusion. Twerk. Nudity. Sushi. You don't have a clue as to what's going on. Live YouTube and Twitch. Sam has the weight of the world on his shoulders. Poggers.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Sam doesn't want to do this show anymore. He can't do it anymore. It was so much easier when the majority of the report was his shoulders. See, I just didn't want to do this show anymore. I can't do it anymore. It was so much easier when the majority of the report was just you, you were happy. Let's change the subject. Rangers and Nick's feeling great. Now shut up.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Don't want people saying reckless things on your program. That's one of the most difficult parts about this show. This is a pro-killing podcast. I'm thinking maybe it's time we bury the hatchet. Left is best. Trump, I let work. Don't be foolish and don't fucking tweet at me and don't bitch. killing podcasts. I'm thinking maybe it's time we bury the hatchet. Left is best. Trump is a violent twerp. Don't be foolish and don't fucking tweet at me and don't bitch. It's the way that mother's cocked all these people.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Love it. That's where my heart is, so I wrote my honors thesis about it. Oh, she wrote an honors thesis. I guess I should hand the main mic to you now. You are to the right of the actual policy. We already fund Israel, dude. Are you against us? That's a tougher question than I the main mic to you now. You are to go right off the outside policy. We already found Israel, dude. Are you against us? That's a tougher question than an answer to.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Incredible theme song. I, Bumbler. Emma Viglin, absolutely one of my favorite people. Actually, not just in the game, like, period.

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