The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3546 The Plan To Put Homeless In Concentration Camps The Fight For Health Care W Jesse Rabinowitz Abdul El Sayed

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

It's News Day Tuesday on the Majority Report On today's program: The Bureau of Labor Statistics has released its November data, showing negative job growth in three of the past six months, alongside the lowest unemployment rate since 2021. Keep in mind that Donald Trump fired much of the BLS staff and replaced them with loyalists so the real numbers may be much worse. Jesse Rabinowitz, the communications director for the National Homelessness Law Center joins Sam and Emma to discuss Utah's plan to build an involuntary "treatment center" on the outskirts of Salt Lake City. Abdul El-Sayed joins the program to discuss his U.S. Senate campaign in Michigan, outlining his support for Medicare for All, his views on Gaza, filibuster reform, and the challenges facing everyday Michiganders. In the Fun Half: After several prominent GOP leaders condemned his vile Truth Social post blaming "Trump Derangement Syndrome" for Rob Reiner's murder, Trump doubled down on the rhetoric and the fallout is snowballing. The Megyn Kelly wrap up show is flooded with phone calls of republican voters expressing their anger with Trumps comments on Rob Reiner. White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles gives an interview to Vanity Fair in which she unloads on Trump's inner circle, attacking Elon Musk, JD Vance, Pam Bondi, Russ Vought and even Trump himself. Benjamin Netanyahu waited a whole 2 hours to blame the Bondi Beach shooting on Australia's signaling towards recognizing a Palestinian State. Meanwhile Senator Lindsay Graham blames the shooting on Joe Biden and Barack Obama in an intoxicated rant. Joe Rogan shows that he has more in common with the billionaires he pals around with then his audience during a rant against taxation. Dave Rubin is selling t-shirt that read "Moron Zamboni" in a cringe attempt to mock NYC mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani All that and more. The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Check out IceRRT.com Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: DELETEME: Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/MAJORITY and use promo code MAJORITY at checkout. TUSHY: Remember to head to ZBiotics.com/MAJORITY and use the code MAJORITY at checkout for 15% off. AURA FRAMES: Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/MAJORITY. Promo Code MAJORITY SUNSET LAKE: Head on over to SunsetLakeCBD.com and use the code WINTER25 to save 35% on their full lineup of CBD Tinctures for people and pets. This sale ends December 21st at 11:59 ᴾᴹ eastern. Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com

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And now, time for the show. It is Tuesday, December 16th, 2025. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. on the program today, Jesse Rabinowitz, communications director for the National Homeless Law, Homelessness Law Center on the homeless concentration camp

that is being built in Utah. Then on the program, Abdul L. Said, Senate candidate running in the Michigan Democratic primary. Also on the program today, unemployment rate shoots up to 4.6, a four-year high. And you recall, four years ago, we were coming out of a pandemic shutdown. Meanwhile, U.S. kills eight people and strikes on three boats in the Pacific Ocean. Who was on those boats?

Who knows? Senate trying to forge a two-year extension of the Affordable Care Act subsidies. The House going to take a vote tomorrow on something completely different and useless. Hegsteth office escalating investigation of Senator Kelly over that video telling military personnel to follow the Constitution. meanwhile the military rejiggering their chain of command. New York AG sues UPS over wage theft. The VA to cut tens of thousands of health care providers. Zelensky says a peace proposal is just days away.

FBI still yet to find a suspect in the Brown. shooting. Good job, Cash Patel. Andrew Cuomo charges New York State taxpayers another $1.3 million in defense of his sexual harassment suits. The numbers now over 20 million. And Florida puts a nationwide execution rate to a 15-year high. this more on today's majority report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. It is. Newsday, Tuesday.

And I'm about to appear on screen in just a second. There we are. Newsday, Tuesday. Yes, indeed. We have a lot to get to. And we are also just like, I guess, well, no, tomorrow will be a week away. from our final show of 2025, live show anyways. Although we may, you know, that's in January. So yeah. Yeah. Wow. We're getting close to the end of the year.

And that means we are also only a week or so away from the ACA extensions, the subsidies ending. People are going to be hit with tens of millions of people are going to be hit with 200%, 150%, 50%, 300%, 400% increases in their health care premiums. And it doesn't seem like Republicans in the House are going to allow for any vote on it, although there are three different discharge petitions going around. So folks like Mike Lawler and other so-called Republican moderates, And by moderate, what we mean is people who won in districts that would otherwise be purple or blue, but because of really the weakness at the top of the ticket in the last election, the Republicans got elected there. They're not by any really sort of sense of the word moderates.

It's not like they're voting any differently, particularly when it's crucial. So it's a silly thing to say in some respects. But let's turn to the economy. We finally got some numbers, unemployment numbers, because the government shutdown, which, incidentally, we could be heading towards another one in January. These numbers also include the government workers who have been, on paid leave, in some instances, up to like seven or eight months. But they are finally now off the payrolls.

So there was a huge drop in government workers, federal government workers. But across the board, the numbers are really bad. Here is CNN talking about it. A fresh look at the U.S. economy long-awaited data on the labor market showing the unemployment, the unemployment rate rose to a four-year high last month. And while the economy did add jobs in November, data shows that there have been job losses in three of the last six months. Right now, 7.8 million Americans are out of work. Seen's Matt Egan has much more on what really has been a flood of data that came in this morning. What else are you seeing in this report?

Matt? Well, Kate, this report rarely confirms that the U.S. job market remains in a precarious place. Unemployment is rising and hiring is sluggish at best. Now, the big number here is 4.6%. That is the new unemployment rate as of November, unexpectedly jumping from 4.4% in September. Now, 4.6%. That's the highest level in just over four years. You can see on that chart how there has been this, steady increase in the unemployment rate over the last year or two. Now, we also learned that the U.S. economy during the month of October lost jobs, lost 105,000 jobs. Now, this was driven entirely by the government and largely by the fact that Doge had a federal buyout program for federal workers, and those workers came off the payrolls at the end of September. So we were expecting a significant drag from the government in October, and we did get that. Private sector hiring in October was positive. This was all about the government. In November, the only piece of slightly good news here is that hiring did rebound during the month of November, the U.S. economy adding 64,000 jobs.

That's a bit ahead of the forecast of 40,000. However, there were also more negative revisions. September was revised slightly lower. August went from negative. to 4,000 to negative 26,000. So when you look at the trend here, and you can see it on that chart, it's really been very bumpy recently. In fact, the U.S. economy has now lost jobs in three out of the past six months. That's after going more than four years without any months of job loss. In fact, when you look at the year-to-date average, it's about 55,000 jobs per month that the U.S. economy has added this year. That's very low. In fact, the 3,000. That's the lowest since 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic.

And before that, you have to go back to 2009. So on track for a very weak year of... That's awful. Just to give you some context, 2009 was after the financial crash, and it was known as the Great Recession. 2020 was when there was lockdowns in a significant portion of the country. because of the pandemic. And those numbers, I just want to say in November, because the Fed Chair, Jay Powell, said that those job numbers, the 64,000 added, could be overestimated by as much as 60,000 a month.

In other words, we could have added 4,000 jobs. But understand that because of population growth, 64,000 will push up the unemployment rate because it's not keeping up with the with the fact that we have more people entering the job market every year. In fact, for young people ages 20 to 24, the unemployment rate is at 8.3%, which was at a low of 5.5% in April of 2023. three. So, you know, it's quite possible that we are either already in a recession or on the brink of one, which is defined by two quarters of negative growth. And so it remains to be seen, but negative growth in GDP, but it remains to be seen. We'll see. But we are not, you know, those government jobs that were lost, Those were absorbed the vast majority of them in October's numbers, not so much in November, but some.

But then, you know, we're done with that sort of extraordinary bump of government worker job loss. But it also goes to show that governments do create jobs and they can also shed jobs. And in the sectors, too, that are growing, it's mostly the health. care sector. Everywhere else is do is layoffs at this point. Professional and business services. I think you can also that those entry level jobs, right, for young people and some of the professional business services stuff, AI is perhaps a part of that. I think that's going to be a looming a looming problem for young people in terms of like replacement level work. Heather Long mentions construction as hiring as well, but a lot of like,

construction work is to make data centers right now. Yeah, it's construction work and health care, and that's the only area of growth in terms of jobs. Everywhere else is doing layoffs. And that's one million more unemployed people from January is basically what the estimate is. It's either somewhere between 800,000 to 1 million more unemployed people since January. And that's because in January, the unemployment rate was at 4%. And now it's at 4.6. And it's just, It's all that and before that even with that lower unemployment rate people were under employed we talked about this all the time wage growth has not kept up and so the economy the fact that the stock market might be doing well is entirely

disconnected from how people are feeling like I'd say rent and mortgage prices probably more important and not affordable for anybody but yeah it's been good for people who own stocks we should also say that we have our we have an AI representation of the economy. We've run the numbers through our AAI audio generation machine. And here it is. That was it. The entire building's electricity bill just went up 100 bucks a month. Exactly. To develop that. In a moment, we're going to be talking to Jesse Rabinowitz,

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We had some technical difficulties. Emma Viglin, Sam Cedar on the majority report. Like I say, I want to welcome Jesse Rabinitz, Communications Director for the National homeless law center to the show. And Jesse, we were, you were just telling us, but I don't think people heard it. There in Utah is planning as some type of camp for on house people. Tell us what you know about this. We know that this camp and this idea should send chills up everyone's spine. We should not have to be saying out loud that forcing people into a camp is a bad idea, but that is where we are yet again in this country.

Utah's governor, inspired by the Trump administration's attacks on homeless people, is proposing to create what will be the largest government-run detention camp for homeless people with upwards of 1,300 beds, including 800 beds where people will be forcibly held against their will. This diverts funding from proven solutions to homelessness, like housing and support, to instead build a literal detention facility for people who just can't pay the rent. It's shameful and it must not happen. What is the authority to, I mean, is this a jail? Like, what is the authority that Utah has to put people in a concentration camp?

I love that question. So there is a growth of anti-homeless law. springing up around the country that largely stem from a billionaire-backed right-wing think tank called the Cicero Institute, which was founded by Palantir CEO Joe Lonsdale. And the Cicero Institute has been moderately effective in passing anti-homeless laws at the state level, including in Utah. So Utah has a law on the books, thanks to these billionaires, that says it is illegal to sleep outside. So now what Utah is going to do is say your choice is either to go to jail or your

choices to go to a detention camp in the middle of nowhere. Those aren't real choices and they don't solve homelessness. They make homelessness worse. I remember that name because it's so, you know, egregiously libertarian sounding the Cicero Institute. Because last year, I remember there was a story about this guy in Texas and how effective he had been. I believe it was in all. I believe it was in Austin, right? This, um, uh, Joe, uh, the tech billionaire Joe Lonsdale, who's, uh, his data stuff has been used by ICE, the CIA. He did a documentary with Prager You. So this is like deeply, deeply right wing stuff. Okay. But, uh, back to the point of this, like, how long will people like, okay, you get a jail term and someone says, you have broken the law because you have no home. Um,

How long do are people, like, forced to stay in this concentration camp? We don't know. So there's no, like, there's just no structure to this whatsoever. Like, it's, but the law is on the books that you can go to jail. So are they putting people in jail right now in, in Utah? Well, what they're doing right now, the governor released his budget, I believe, last week, and included $45 million to fund this detention camp. And right now is our understanding.

that there is still a significant chunk of cash that they need, and we expect them to be asking HUD to fund the rest. I want to remind folks that HUD Secretary Scott Turner was asked during his confirmation hearing if he supported forcing homeless people in detention camps, and he failed to answer. We believe that anyone who cannot unequivocally say forcing people into detention camps

is not only not fit to run HUD. They're just not fit to run the federal government, but it's important that we remember. Trump has talked about this for a long time. This is something he has campaigned on. And now these billionaires at the Cicero Institute are really shaping homelessness policy. It should scare all of us. And honestly, everyone who cares about justice needs to be mobilizing against these attacks on people who can't afford rent. And so they have tens of millions of dollars. They're looking for federal

grants to build this. I assume this is all going to some type of private prison company that will build this facility. Have they started to build it? They haven't started to build it yet. They're still waiting on the rest of the funding. So the governor's budget came out a few weeks ago, and that was the first indication that this was a top priority for Governor Cox. So now we are looking to see where they plan to get the rest of the funding. I'm just wanting to know a little bit more about that connection than with the Trump administration. Like how intimate is that connection?

Because it appears like, based on what we've been speaking about, that this is pretty directly linked to some of Trump's top. owners? Well, I want to say two things about that. One is that Donald Trump is using homelessness as a wedge issue to enact his authoritarian takeover of the country. Where I am in D.C. is no secret that his federal occupation of D.C. began with attacks on homeless people. And I was there when federal agents harassed homeless people and when the government threw away people's belongings for sleeping outside. And when we think about Trump's attacks, we often think about as attacks on immigrants, as attacks on trans folks, which are urgent and demand focus, but we also need to focus as a tax on homeless people.

And then Joe Lonsdale, the former Palantier CEO billionaire, is good friends with folks like JD Vance, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel. And when we see the homelessness policy coming out of the White House, it has the Cicero Institute's fingerprints all over it. billionaires are the last people in this country who should be shaping homelessness policy because they don't care and they don't know what it's like to do the work or to experience homelessness. We know that despite what these billionaires say, the solution to homelessness is housing and supports, not handcuffs or detention camps.

Is there any attempt by in Utah? And I imagine this is like, you know, what we're seeing is a proof of concept type of program. right, like a pilot program for the rest of, I would imagine, mostly red states for the most part. But are they expending any money to build housing, to provide housing to in any other programs for on-housed people in Utah? Utah has a definite lack of shelter capacity and a lack of housing that people can afford. One of the things that's so insidious about this detention camp is that, it actually will take the money that should be funding housing and supports and also mental health care, and instead redirect that funding to the creation of a detention camp. So they're actively

taking money away from the solutions to fund this cruel, inhumane and ineffective project. It's almost like a blend of debtors prisons, which are supposed to be illegal in this country and involuntary commitment to mental institutions from the 20th century. That's what it feels like a combination of and it's federalized, or at least it has federal backing. I think that's absolutely right. We know that in no time in this country or in history has rounding people up and forcing them into camps been a good thing. But that is exactly what Utah was the backing of the Trump administration is working towards. It's shameful and we have to stop it.

Thankfully, there are amazing advocates in Utah working at the city and state level to stop this. And we're honored to support them in their advocacy and working to make sure that this derange plan in Utah doesn't go anywhere else. We've got Utah and I guess on the I am saying that there is at the package stores, the liquor stores, the state-owned ones,

there's an option to round up purchases to help with homelessness services. Is that where this money is going towards? Are they building a fund right now to build this camp? Or do you not know? I don't know. I'm not certain, but I know that small little changes like that are not actually going to fund those solutions to homelessness.

In order to solve homelessness, we have to fix our housing system, which right now only works for people like Joe Lansdale, Elon, Musk, and Donald Trump. And we have to build a housing system where everyone, regardless of what they do, what they look like, or where they're from, has a safe place to live. That is not what Utah is doing. Utah is showing us the exact wrong thing to do,

but I know that in cities and states across the country, more and more people are recognizing that the rent is too damn high and that when the rent goes up, so does homelessness. And we are going to force our elected officials to focus on real proven solutions to homelessness, like housing and support. Is there a state in the country that is actually doing stuff that you, I mean, I imagine a lot of your time has spent like talking about stuff. that is like scary like this frankly are there states that are doing it correctly there are cities and states across the country here are doing the best they can with limited resources we just lost your audio for some reason yeah can you do it a little bit closer

than mic maybe I'm not sure what happened there there are cities and states across the country that are doing the best they can with limited resources and we know that when folks get housing and support they don't experience homelessness anymore and they thrive I used to be a homeless street outreach worker in D.C. And watching my clients connect to housing was transformative for their lives and for the community. But the truth is, more people are entering into homelessness than we can support. Because the federal government has abdicated their responsibility, not just under the Trump administration, under many previous federal administrations. We have to stem the flow of people into homelessness.

And that requires fundamentally reshaping our housing system and moving over. away from a profit-driven housing system and one towards a realization that everybody needs a place to stay and a place to live. But housing first, this idea that we can match people with housing and support works. It has over a 90% approval rating. I'm sorry, not a 90% efficacy rating. The only people who are trying to poke holes in that are people like the billionaires at the CISO Institute who have an agenda to gain. And, you know, that 90% effectiveness, it seems to me that one of the talking points that we hear on the right is focused on the 10% that it's not effective for. There are people who have serious mental or emotional challenges who are on the street.

There are people who are on the street who don't want to be in a house. But again, I would imagine that the percentage of those people who have some mental or emotional challenges pretty high. What that seems to always be put in the sort of the front of the line in terms of like saying, well, this is why we've got to send everybody to some type of like a concentration camp or, uh, you know, a mental facility, um, when in fact, you know, about 90% of those people would, if you gave them the opportunity to live in a place and they could, they would, uh, maybe, maybe even higher. But what do you do about those? remaining things, those folks, as a way of addressing what seems to be the big talking point on

the right? Well, first, you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you were on a lifeboat and there were 10 people in your lifeboat and there were five life rafts, five people drowned, five people survived, you wouldn't say the life vests don't work. You would say we need more of them. But right now the right is trying to say, throw away all of the life vests. That won't work. Number two, stop making homelessness worse. Stop cutting budgets that, force people into homelessness or force people who were homeless and now stately housed back into homelessness. Stop passing laws like these aggressive anti-homeless laws that we've seen spread across the country since the grants passed rolling about 17 months ago.

But everyone needs a place to live. And a place to live is the foundation for getting your health back on track, finding employment, reconnecting with your loved ones. And we know that getting someone in housing first and then surrounding them with the wrap around, on resources that they want and need works time and time again. We also know that more people, we also know that most people who have a mental health issue or drug use issue will never be homeless. And most people who use drugs or have mental health issues will stay in housing for their entire lives.

So we have it backwards. We're looking to blame people for individual failings. But the fact is, our politicians are asleep at the wheel. Half of people in this country struggle to pay. rent. Housing is too expensive. Health care is too expensive. Food is too expensive. The solution is to help people not to force them into a literal government around detention camp. But again, that is exactly what Utah wants to do. I have to say that as a social worker, this idea of forced institutionalization is deeply, deeply unsettling. It is unethical. But we also know it doesn't work.

Emma was talking about these debtors prisons and these institutions. We used to do forced institutionalization in this country, and we don't anymore. We stopped doing it because it was ineffective and it didn't work. But again, the Trump administration wants to bring us backwards to a time where you could throw people in jail for being poor, sick, and disabled. We must not let them. Jesse Rabinowitz, Communications Director for the National Homelessness Law Center. We'll put a link to that organization.

folks want to help your work. I really appreciate you coming on today. Thank you. Thanks so much. All right, folks. We're going to take quick break. We'll be right back with Abdul El-Said, a Senate candidate running in the Michigan Democratic primary. We'll be right back after this.

We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland, on the Majority Report. Pleasure to welcome back to the program, Abdul-El-Said. He is a Senate candidate running in the Michigan Democratic primary. Abdul, welcome back to the program. Always a privilege to be with you all. Thanks for having me back. So you were on in April with Emma. Give us, I should say, a sense of like how the campaign has been going over the course of eight months now, I guess.

Gosh. It's crazy that these campaigns take as long as they do because we've got the next eight months yet to go. but in the last eight months, I've been able to travel to 71 different cities. I've done 170 public events. These are town halls where we listen and learn to Michiganers, with Michiganers about the issues that they face in their lives. And no matter where I go, people tell me the same thing. It just shouldn't be this hard.

It shouldn't be this hard to send my kid to a dentist or see a doctor to work the same job tomorrow that I worked yesterday. Shouldn't be this hard to believe that I could actually own a home if I'm under the age of 40 or stay in my home if I'm over the age of 60. These are the issues that no matter where you go, you can be in Escanaba in the Upper Peninsula, you can be in Detroit. People use the same words to describe their challenges. And that tells me something that if we're able to reach across the divides that politicians tend to exploit to keep us separated, divides of geography or of race or faith or ethnicity or sexual orientation, gender identity. If we're able to do those things, you can build a movement that's greater than the sum of its parts.

Because if you can actually reach across that, we can have nice things, but only if we do it together. And what, I mean, you mentioned health care, and I want to get into that a bit. What else in the context of Michigan are on people's minds like these days? And has it changed over the course of the past eight months? I mean, it's been eight months in sort of normal time. But we've seen, you know, like various cycles of assaults on our government and assaults on our neighbors over the course of these. really eight, 10 months. And I'm curious, A, what else is on folks in Michigan's mind? And B, has that changed over the course of the campaign? I'll tell you this. You know, you're right.

We're living in eight months of time in the Trump era, which feels like eight years. And I think the issue, though, is that it's the same problem, different manifestations. I mean, one of the things that folks will talk a lot about right now is the way that our current utility is cutting corners. when it comes to deals that they've made around data centers. And look, I think there are opportunities for really great union jobs with data centers, but that has to come with a level of public accountability. And when your local utility that's been raising your rates every single cycle, every single year on you,

now it comes and says that they're going to take on this new client that is going to increase their output by 65 percent. And you lose your electricity two or three times a year for three or four days every time. You're going to look askance at that. And when they tell you that they want to do that, without actually having to have public hearings, you start to realize that there's something afoot. But DTE, which is our utility here in Southeast Michigan, they're the biggest single spender in Michigan politics. I said something when I ran back in 2018. That has been so true since.

Donald Trump is not himself the disease of our politics. He's just the worst symptom of the disease. And the disease is the way that corporations like DTE can buy up politicians to do their bidding. And this is just another example. It's the newest iteration of the same old problem. Obviously, we've been talking about health care quite a bit because we're watching as people's premiums are about the skyrocket. Now, ask yourself why that is. That's because big corporations, we've ceded our health care system to them. And of course, they put profits first. And so these are the companies that are raising the price of health care on us.

And we have to remember that their CEOs are still going to get paid $10, $20 million a year as they raise those prices. Let's talk about specifically a single payer and the most. model that you are supportive of. Tell us about that model. Look, Sam, anybody who knows about me knows that I'm a physician. I rebuild health departments and I believe deeply in Medicare for All. I literally wrote the book on Medicare for All, how we would achieve guaranteed health care for everybody from the moment they are born to the moment that they get a job, hopefully don't lose a job, get married, hopefully don't get divorced, turn 65, all of the ways that you can lose your health care in America.

We need to be able to guarantee folks through that and guarantee them the kind of health care that they don't have to worry about the price that they get hit with when they, you know, hit a deductible simply because they dared to get sick and actually use their health insurance. We could do that and we could do that and actually save Americans money. That's what Medicare for all would do. Guaranteed health care from the moment you are born to the moment, hopefully you lived 120 years and die peacefully in your sleep, that it is there for you no matter the circumstances of your lives. You would think that in an era where we are watching as the price of care is skyrocketing, that anyone running for office in 2025, 2026 should be on board with that idea. Because guess what? The American public is on board with that idea.

In survey after survey, the American public, Democrats and Republicans support this idea except for if you're taking money from the corporations who make money off the system as it stands. And unfortunately, that has been the case for far too long, certainly among Republicans and also among too many Democrats, and certainly the kinds of folks that I've been running against here in Michigan. What do you say when people say, well, I work in the health insurance industry. My job could go away if Medicare for all were to be implemented. Just throwing that out there as the devil's advocate because I imagine you're getting some of that.

You know, I don't get as much of that as you think. In fact, when people come up to me in town halls who work in the industry, they're like, you know, it's as bad as you say it is and worse. The reality of it, though, is that there would still be these jobs. You still need people who can process our claims, process health insurance. If you're the CEO of the company, you're making 18 million bucks. I'm so sorry, I don't think you should be making $18 million that people literally are spending to provide their people health care. But for the folks who work inside the industry, a lot of these jobs are going to persist. I'll tell you a story from the campaign trail that really hit me hard.

There was a woman who, after a town hall, stayed back and she said, you know, I'm a nurse. and I take care of patients with breast cancer. I said, that's amazing. And she said, I want to tell you why I do this. I said, okay. She said, well, I used to work in health insurance. And I had to deny a woman who was dying of breast cancer from the reimbursement that she needed for her care.

And so it didn't just happen that she died of breast cancer. It happened that she died destitute of breast cancer. And when that happened, and I realized that the reason I was doing this was because of the greed of the company I was working for, I resigned. I went to nursing school and I became a nurse. The reality of it is in our healthcare industry, our health care system, we need a lot more people who are actually providing care, healing people when they get sick. And if we were to pass Medicare for all, the tens of millions of people who are currently on the outs in the system would be let back in. And they're going to need health care.

There's so much we could do to provide yet more jobs in health care if we were providing them in the right ways without the gatekeeping of the health insurance industry. And we're already, I mean, this is the thing that people don't seem to understand fully. We have one third of the country is already on a program like this, like in one form or another. So it's really not, we're not reinventing the wheel. We're just putting another wheel on the car, essentially. And we have right-wing think tanks that have shown that per capita, we're going to save money as a country on, on health insurance. We're not even talking about care as much as we are about talking about

a middleman who makes money off the way that we pay for health insurance. And Sam, we do this crazy thing. Okay, I just want folks to understand this. You're right, a third of the country by people, but more than 50% of the health care by cost is funded by the government already. But what we do is we either provide health care for you when you're a low income, and therefore more likely to get sick or when you're older and therefore more likely to get sick. But when you're younger and could invest more in that public system so that it would benefit everybody, we allow you or force you into this private system so that corporations can make more money. The whole thing, right, is a system that is built around maximizing the profits of a

very few number of very large corporations that are extremely powerful and use their money to sustain the system rather than to provide health care for all of us. I did this video. quite recently. We went to Canada and spoke to folks about medical debt, right? And I said, well, you're our neighbors. Tell us how you handle your medical debt. And of course, none of them have medical debt because that's not a thing that happens in Canada. And I'll just tell you this. They live two years longer on average than we do. They spend only about 60% as much as we do. And in survey after survey, they're happier than we are. The difference, a few huge corporations make a lot more money in America and a lot of people go without health care than in Canada.

We could have that if we had the political will to actually act in what's right for people. But the corporation spent too much money buying off politicians to make sure that those politicians will never actually act that way. Do you think that the forces against doing something like a single payer system are just the insurance companies? Is it like where because we have insurance companies, but you know, they're a big business, but they're not that big. I mean, it's almost like you could almost pay them off and still like a deal with it. You have medical providers who are able to charge in some instances, like, you know, sort of exorbitant rates because they have the advantage of maybe, you know, not having a coherent system that measures what best practices might be. You know, I buy a CAT scan,

and all of a sudden it's like, well, you got a cough. Let's put you in the CAT scan. I mean, there's a little bit of an exaggeration, but not exactly. Or is it also just sort of like broadly speaking, large corporations want the control over their workers that making the workers dependent upon them for health care provides? You know, Sam, I think it's some of all of that, but I do want to talk a little bit about some of the numbers. here because they're quite staggering. If you look at the amount of money spent by corporations by industry on lobbying, the number one biggest spender is the pharmaceutical industry. Over the past 20

years, they spent $4.3 billion with a B dollars just on lobbying. That doesn't include electioneering. That doesn't include the money that they spend in their packs to shape elections, just lobbying. Number two was the insurance industry. So when you look at the amount of money that is actually spent to sway positions of lawmakers. It's an immense, insane amount of money. And then you have the amount of money that they're using to sway public opinion. If you watch the 2020 primary, you might remember seeing some ads for the Coalition for America's Healthcare Future.

This was a group funded by pharma and health insurance and big hospitals that came together to try and dissuade people from supporting Medicare for all or candidate to supported Medicare for all in the 2020 cycle. So this is about. the profits of a few very, very big, very, powerful industries. Now, look, other folks benefit from this, but you really got to lay the blame at the kind of corporate greed and the way that that corporate greed can cross into our politics in a way that has left us be reft of health care options that people can afford. I'm going to play a video for you. Now, this may be unfair.

It is one of the people that you're running against. And, um, uh, She has not been the sort of the handpicked of the establishment of Chuck Schumer and Kristen Gilbert like Haley Stevens. And I will cop to not knowing that much about her then or now. But I saw this video a couple of months ago, and it drove me absolutely crazy. it was so disingenuous, I couldn't believe it. And I don't want to sandbag you with this, but I want to play this clip of her describing why you wouldn't want single-payer health care.

And I just, it's astonishing to me because three months later, people, we're going to, like, I don't know how many millions of people are going to end up losing their health care, if not paying four times more for it under the Affordable Care Act, which is, you know, a private health care system essentially with just subsidies. But here is Mallory McMurrow. I'm not sure where the location was. It was just some type of rally. Campaign event.

Campaign event. Yeah. Now, I said it the way that I said it because some people conflate Medicare for all with universal health care. But Medicare for all, when it's actually defined, is one singular government-run health care system that we are all on. Now, I want you to imagine what that would look like with Donald Trump and RFK Jr. at the head. You have this man who just last week held a conference saying that anybody who has been circumcised probably has autism.

Because they probably took Tylenol. This is a man who decapitated a whale and dropped a dead bear off and said, Central Park. Okay. Who works out. I don't know. The comedy bit is, uh, is funny, but she's not really addressing the issue. Um, what are the implications? I mean, we now have a completely disjointed system.

We have like we say one third of our country, Medicaid, Medicare, uh, VA, VA obviously getting government like, like delivered healthcare, uh, Medicare and Medicaid are government, um, uh, insurers of of health care um but don't trump has been able to mess this up quite a bit uh kennedy's been able to mess this up quite a bit the thing that they're afraid of is messing with medicare because there's a mass of people there who are going to be like hey wait a second so but i would like to get your your your your sense of of that perspective i can't imagine she actually believes that well it's disappointing to see a democrat running on that in 2025 really it's uh so somewhat astounding. I do want to fact check something and then speak to the broader implication.

Medicare for all is not one government health system. Medicare for all wouldn't actually provide you health care. It's one government health insurance system so that it would pay for your care, kind of like Medicare. That's why we're saying Medicare for all. And then I want you to think about the logic underneath that. Like it's a crazy thing because you could use the same logic to justify not ever having passed Medicare in the first place or Medicaid or Social Security. or frankly anything else government does. And is wild as Democrats, who are the people who are supposed to believe that government can be a part of solving a number of problems for all of us when we think about what the public

good can be to then run on that kind of logic. But then ask yourself why people like Donald Trump get elected in the first place. It's because people like Democrats run away from their ideals. I mean, the biggest challenge we have is that Donald Trump is very clear about what he believes in. You know, when you ask people about what Donald Trump's about, he's got a very clear narrative. If you're out of a job, because an immigrant took your job. If you're out of health care, it's because immigrants took your health care. If you out of a home, because an immigrant took your home.

And we should be right there with an alternative, true narrative. If you're out of a job, because corporations automated and offshore of your jobs, out of health care, because corporations squeezed you out of health care. Out of a home, corporation speculated on your home. But we don't do that. We sit here with lists of options that mean nothing. And then we wonder why we don't win elections, right? Because if you run against the big, ugly bear and you have an alternative against the big,

ugly bear, then what are you actually doing? And so the reason we lose in the first was the reason people like Donald Trump end up taking power in destroying a lot of these programs is because we're unwilling to actually state what we're for. And so if you are sitting in 2025 running an election campaign against what government can do, then my question is, why don't you just go join the other party? You could tear it apart if you want to. And it seems to me that like I, and I'm trying to even like, even when I'm being as charitable as I can, as upsetting as that clip was to me first. some reason. Universal health care, according to her system, would essentially be, you know, Obamacare or, you know, the ACA, juiceed up a little bit more. But that's just us providing

subsidies to private health insurance, which Donald Trump has shown can end at any moment. Like, it's not, there's no way to guarantee universal health care, uh, without having a government involved in that in some fashion. It just becomes how inefficient and how much of the cost is going to be laid on, uh, like, how much, how much, how much do we want to pay? I mean, like, during the COVID, we provided healthcare for people who lost their jobs by paying for COBRA, which if you're receiving it, um, okay, that's, great, except for it's the least efficient possible way we could have ever done it. It's the most

expensive health care you can provide. You don't get anything more. It's just that the government was paying both sides of the equation in that instance. It was absurd. So it's really just about burning money. Yeah. You know, if you want to guarantee people health care, just guarantee them health care. It's like it's not really that hard. We do that for people over the age of 65 who, by the way, need more health care. So it is a just a, it's a very frustrating thing because right now, the insistence of the corporate democratic wing of the party is that we have to do this and we have to use the insurance industry as the stopgap. And my point is, I don't want to subsidize big corporations if I could just directly offer people guaranteed health care, which is what

Medicare for all is supposed to be. Republicans are responding this moment and saying, we're just going to give you cash. We don't want to subsidize. the health insurance industry either. Both of these arguments are disingenuous. If you want to guarantee people health care, guarantee them health care, we can do that through the federal government. We do that for people who are over 65. This is not a difficult thing to understand. And I'll just say this. I come to my position on Medicare for all as someone who's gone to medical school, who did a PhD in public health, who rebuilt a health department, who led the state's biggest health department who wrote a book on how to do this. A lot of other Democrats come to their positions on

health care from the experience of having taking corporate checks from health insurance CEOs. Now, you make your decision. Can, do you want to pivot off health care for a sec? I just wanted to ask you about this, Abdul, because obviously Michigan was a major focus for the 2024 election, in part because Michigan has a large Muslim population and the genocide in Gaza was looming over that election. and we saw what the results were in Dearborn and across the state and across the country. Over the past eight months, what has struck you about your stance, which calls of the genocide?

You don't take APAC money, obviously, or corporate PAC money in general. And what has some of the reaction that you've seen been to say, you know, you have Haley Stevens, who's just drowning in APAC money, McMorro's trying to stake out a more middle ground, but your position is obviously the clearest on this. Yeah, it's clear because I'm not running for office to say what's popular. I'm running for office to make what is right popular. That's the work that politics is supposed to do. And I'm not going to sit here and pretend like the murderer of tens of thousands of kids,

up to 100,000 people, the destruction of all of their infrastructure, their housing, their hospitals, their schools, their universities, their parks, everything. And then the attempt to push them into neighboring countries because they happen to speak the same language is anything short of what experts in Israel call it, which is a genocide. I don't have to get pushed there. Those are obvious things. And I think there's a couple of things that are really surprising to me. The first is you would expect that what I just said would be popular in a place like Dearborn. But maybe not in a place like Houghton up in the Upper Peninsula's Upper Peninsula or in a church. in Redford right outside Detroit or on the west side of the state in Holland or Grand Rapids.

And no matter where I go, when I share the fact that in an era where our kids' schools are crumbling, where our health care is failing, where our infrastructure is decimated, that our federal government is sending our money abroad to buy foreign militaries, bombs and tanks to drop on other people's children when we could be investing it here at home, that that resonates. It's like that resonates. It should be obvious, but it's not just in places like Dearborn or Dearborn Heights or in communities that are ethnic enclaves. It is everywhere because this is a fundamentally American problem. When our children go without the things they need from our tax dollars and we're misappropriating our tax dollars abroad, this is an American problem.

And I'll just tell you this. It's a wild thing. There's a certain hubris that American policymakers have about believing they get to dictate how other people come to their ultimate peace. That's not my job. I'm not running for Senator from Tel Aviv or Gaza. I'm running for Senator from Michigan. And as a Senator in Michigan, I want Michigan tax dollars spent on kids and adults in Michigan. That shouldn't be a hard thing to say. Now, when folks are bending themselves into pretzels to avoid saying the obvious thing because they're worried about whether or not they're going to receive funding from a special interest funded by mega billionaires or they're going to get spent against, at some point you have to ask whether or not they pass the basic, moral litmus test of our time. Can you call the murder of tens of thousands of kids a genocide? Like, it's not that hard. And so, you know, the fact that it's resonating across my state to me

was initially surprising. But when you step back and think about it, it should be really obvious. And I do hope that it gives heart to a lot of other folks running for office right now. Because if your goal is just to get elected, then ask yourself what you're going to do when you get that big old office and you sit there. And now you're tied into knots and can't do the obvious thing that you said you wanted to do. What's the point? The goal here is not just to get a job. goal here is to govern according to the truth. And so if you can't get elected, saying the truth, then ask yourself whether or not you want to get elected at all. I want to ask you, too, about the filibuster, because there's a lot of sort of like, there's several,

I should say, candidates running in primaries who have come out, Senate candidates, who've come out and said they're against the, or they would vote to repeal the filibuster. I can't imagine it's a huge issue on the trail, but you tell me, I mean, do, are there, are there a significant amount of, like, I wouldn't imagine it would be, but part of that is a function of like, I don't think that people realize what the filibuster does in terms of hiding Senate, senators positions from their constituents. You know, it comes up a lot more often than you'd think. You know, right now we are in a moment where democracy.

feels like it might be on its deathbed. But it's been sick for a very long time. And it's been sick for a very long time because we've allowed corporations to come in and truck the basic interests of everyday people. And one of the tools that they use is the filibuster, because you're right, if one senator can withhold an entire body from having to vote on legislation, all of the other senators can hide behind that one U.S. senator. So at that point, it serves to, in effect, shield senators real interest from their voters. And I just think that's anti-democratic and it's wrong. And so it's part of what has put democracy on its deathbed. And it's one of the more dangerous parts. Because at the end of the day, right now, we're in a situation where we're talking about,

will I be able to vote in, in 2026? Am I able to actually say what I believe in a country that's supposed to protect my freedom of speech? But like, we got here through a whole process of everyday people, not being able to afford the basic needs of their lives, not be able to afford housing not be able to afford groceries, not be able to get the health care they need, not be able to send their kids to a dentist. And the fact that our democratic process hasn't been able to solve these problems for people itself has been the illness of our democracy. And the filibuster is part of that. So it comes up a lot more than you would think. But it's important for folks, I think, to connect the dots on the way that you can't afford your meat at the grocery store because of a few huge meat packers dominate the industry. And they're able to hide behind the filibuster to do anything to actually regulate.

it. And that plays itself out in almost every aspect of our lives. Abdul al-Said. If there are folks in Michigan who want to help you in this run for the Democratic primary or frankly around the country who want to help you, what should they do? I hope folks will go to Abdul for Senate.com. I hope they'll follow us on socials at Abdul al-Sal-Said. I hope that you'll share our stuff and you'll build up these conversations. And look, if you can give us a couple bucks, I'd really appreciate that. I don't take corporate money. I never have.

I never will. Our utility and our health insurance companies spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to beat me the last time I ran for governor. And I wear that as a badge of honor. But if you don't want bad people's money, you got to take good people's money. So if folks can support us, chip us off five bucks, 10 bucks, or sign up to volunteer. We are going to be building a community of people coming together to change our politics across the state through the next year. I hope that you'll come join us, AbdulforSenet.com. I deeply appreciate the opportunity to be with you all today.

All right. Well, we will link to Abdul for Senate.com. Abdul-Sal-Said. Thank you so much for your time today. Really appreciate it. Thank you all for having me. Thanks, Abdul. All right.

We're going to take a quick break and head into the fun half of the program. I will say, I mean, we've got two dynamite Senate candidates, I think, in the country, right now. A few. There's a, I think Julie in Colorado. I need to look up. Sanadora.

I need to look up her, but I saw her announce a few, like a week ago. There's a couple. There is a world. There is a world that, you know, I don't,

you know, I don't want to, it's not magical thinking on my part, but it's, I don't want to indulge in a sort of like imagining a Senate where we have three or four or five new Democratic senators who come in, maybe,

you know, five or six who, one or two that, you know, returned to the Senate. And all of a sudden we can actually do away with the filibuster. And we can have, you know, half the caucus be genuinely committed to the idea of a Medicare for all. that would be awesome. Yep. Cressy Noam says, yes, two dynamite candidates, Haley Stevens and Seth Moore. Go bills. I guess, yeah, God.

Peggy Flanagan is the third one, I would say, too. I didn't realize she supported Medicare for all, sorry. I'm stepping on the bit, but I just wanted to give a shout out to Flanagan as well in Minnesota. Also, let's say this on the free show. Silly science people says, thanks to the majority report Discord, you can go to ICERRT.com and find your closest rapid response team as well as legal services for those dealing with deportation and protest groups still under construction, but functional. That is awesome. Did folks on the Discord set that up? That is awesome.

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What time can you start? You're doing like Christian youth outreach, but for the Nixon tapes? Pretty much. All right, we got to take a quick break. We'll be right back in just a moment. Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now.

And I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is three months from now. But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts. Wait a second Hold on for hold on for a second Emma welcome to the program

Hey Fun hat Matt What is up everyone No me keen You did it Fun hat Let's go Brandon

Let's go Brandon Bradley you want to say hello Sorry to disappoint Everyone I'm just a random guy It's all the boys today Fundamentally false No I'm sorry Stop talking

Oh wow. And let me finish. Where is this coming from, dude? But dude, you want to smoke this? Seven, eight? Yes. Yes. It is you.

I think it is you. Who is you? No sound. Every single freaking day. What's on your mind? We can discuss free markets and we can discuss capitalism. I'm going to just know what? Libertarians.

They're so stupid though. Common sense says, of course. Gobbled e-gook. We fucking nailed him. So what's 79 plus 21? Challenge man. I'm positively clovering. I believe 96, I want to say.

857. 210. 35. 501. 1 half. 3-8s. 911 for us. $3,400.

$1,900. $6.5,4, $3 trillion sold. It's a zero-sum game. Actually, you're making me think less. But let me say this. Hoop. You can call it satire. Sam goes to satire.

On top of it all? Yeah. My favorite part about it. It's just like every day, all day, like everything you do. Without a doubt. Hey, buddy, we see you. It's just the week being weeded out, obviously. Yeah, sundown guns out.

I don't know. But you should know. People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore. I have a question. Who cares? Our chat is enabled, folks. I love it. I do love that.

Got a jump. I got to be quick. I get a jump. I'm losing it, bro. Two o'clock, we're already late, and the guy's being a dick. So screw him. Sent to a gulong? Outrage.

Like, what is wrong with you? Love you, bye. Love you. Bye-bye.