The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3557 - Dispatch from Gaza's Nasser Hospital w/ Dr. Tarek Loubani

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

It's a Monday Fun Day on the Majority Report where the fun is rare, but you can't deny it is Monday.  We open with a good news - bad news situation. The good news is violent crime in Washington DC has a hit a 30-year low. Bad news is Trump is declaring DC under federal control and deploying the National Guard. We are joined by Palestinian-Canadian emergency room physician, Dr. Tarek Loubani who is currently volunteering at Nasser hospital in Gaza. It's a harrowing interview but we must bear witness to the terror our tax dollars are funding. Check out Emma's interview with Dr. Loubani from last year. In the Fun Half: Pete Buttigieg uses his signature brand of meaningless corporate consultant talk to the topic of Israel on Pod Save America. Rep Bryan Steil (R-WI) gets heckled out of the building during his town hall. Israel assassinated 5 more journalists, never in history have we seen a country target the press like this. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver did a segment on Chuck Schumer's imaginary best friends, "The Baileys". Maybe one of the LWT writers are MR fans? Patrick Bet-David uses every ounce of his very limited broadcasting ability to spin a report that shows how monumentally unpopular Elon Musk and Donald Trump are. ICE and CBP claim being brown qualifies as reasonable suspicion and GOP Latinos are starting to feel the pressure that they voted for. All that and more plus phone calls and IMs The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Become a member at JoinTheMajorityReport.com: https://fans.fm/majority/join Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the ESVN YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/esvnshow Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors BLUELAND: Right now, get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland.com/majority GIVEWELL: For trusted, evidence-backed insights into this evolving situation — and information about how you can help — follow along at givewell.org/USAID PROLON: ProlonLife.com/majority Get 15% off sitewide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Nutrition Program SUNSET LAKE: Head on over to Sunset LakeCBD.com and remember to use code BIRTHDAY for 25% off sitewide. This sale ends at midnight on August 17th. Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech Check out Matt’s show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon’s show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza’s music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com/ The Majority Report with Sam Seder – https://majorityreportradio.com  

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We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, direct from Nassar Hospital in Kan Yunis, Gaza, Dr. Tarek Lubani, Canadian Emergency Room Physician. He runs the GILA project, which seeks to provide medical supplies. to impoverished locations. Also on the program today, the Trump regime to take over the D.C. police and install the National Guard.

First target for Trump's military invasion of D.C. expel or jailed the unhoused. Meanwhile, Israel assassinations prominent Gaza journalists as a plans its complete takeover

of the entire strip. U.S. government announces it's going to take a cut of NVIDIA and AMD chip sales to China. Good to know we can expropriate such things. Love the precedent. Australia joins the European contingency prepared to recognize the Palestinian state. Vegas suffering a double-digit Trump. slump in tourism. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Trump slump. Get those stickers ready. We got to get those. Judge denies DOJ bid to unseal Galane Maxwell's grand jury records. Back to the drawing board for the

Trumpies. J.D. Vance, demanding Republican take more decisive action on gerrymandering. Trump set the meet Putin, Zelensky gets NATO backing to sit at the table. Trump orders the State Department to gut its human rights reports. All this and more on today's majority report.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks so much for joining us at the beginning of the week. It is... Fun day, Monday. Well, not really. It's not going to be no. Well, maybe this opening segment is a little bit fun because it's of how ridiculous Trump is acting, because big balls got assaulted.

Big balls got assaulted. Not so big, huh? We just finished pre-taping that interview with Dr. Lubani. It is, you know, it's disturbing and upsetting, as it should be. What's going on in Gaza is a horror show. And important that you engage with it. as difficult as it is. And that's our thinking anyways.

We have to bear witness. It's not to be too corny about it, but I think since our tax dollars are funding the genocide, we all have some sort of complicity, even if we're all speaking out. And so I think it's our responsibility as citizens of this empire to bear witness to this genocide. Tom Lofink on the IM says, I created Fund Day. Monday, feel free to stop using it. Had we

not bought licensing rights, if you don't use it, you lose it. I hate Mondays as taken. Exactly. Exactly. Don't like Mondays. It's like superhero IP. Got to reboot it every five years or you lose it.

All right. Well, let's turn to some good news. And that is some crime statistics from the D.C. Metropolitan area, not unlike what we've seen in major cities across the country and, frankly, minor cities. In fact, I think it's something like the FBI crime statistics report got something like an 86% response rate. So it's not one for one.

There is some estimation, but the largest areas in the country reported. And crime is down in just about. every single category certainly violent crime is down murders are down yeah uh rapes are down um it's just down dramatically in some instances not just to pre-covid levels uh but levels that we haven't seen since like the 60s yeah new york uh new orleans san francisco baltimore detroit l a all of these cities are basically close to their lowest since either the 60s or the 70s. It's been the lowest, I think, single percentage drop in murder rates ever recorded. Now, you might think this is magic because if you listen to the right wingers and all the

people who are carrying water for the right wing narrative in the run up to the 2024 election, crime is out of control. Homeless people are out of control. they're ruining all the cities trend aragua is taking over apartment complexes yes and not just one but secretly many many others and there's a conspiracy of silence and anybody who says otherwise and all the data is bunk and the idea that a once in a lifetime total social upheaval in something in a way that none of us have ever experienced would impact crime is a bizarre theory Well, in fact, it all turns out that crime is down dramatically.

And in D.C., this is way down, a 30-year low. And that was at the beginning of the year. Six months later, do we have one updated tariff sheet on this? 2025 year-to-date. So in January of this year, crime was at a 30-year low. And now, if you look at it, the year-to-over-year numbers, 12% down, six months in, seven months in. That's homicide.

Eight months in for homicide. 50% down for sexual abuse. 20% down assault with a dangerous weapon. Robbery down 28%. Violent crimes down 26%. Again, this is from record lows in 24. Yep. The only thing that's gone up is arson, and that went from three to four.

So that's a 33% change. To be fair, these numbers are from the liberal D.C. Metropolitan Police Department. These guys, raging liberals there. And we all know how police departments try and downplay the amount of crime there. Because it's not in their interest to make it seem like crime is going up and we need more resources. They don't want any of those militarized weaponry. They don't want it. So that's the good news. And here's President Trump to announce that good news. D.C. as safe as it's been in years and years. I mean, oh.

I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor. Bedlam. And worse. This is Liberation Day in D.C. And we're going to take our capital back. Pause it for a second. Wait a second. I thought Liberation Day was back in April with the...

This is Liberation Day for D.C. Oh, okay. He said in D.C. Oh. But. How many liberation days can there be? This is bad branding. Like, is he losing his fastball?

The one thing he was good at. That's a lot of Mondays off. Liberation Day. Worse than Bedlam. I mean, it occurs to me that, you know, he's been doing this for a long time. He did this at the RNC back in 2016, you know, like reading off of a Bain script from one of the Batman movies. But, you know, this move. by right wingers where they have to present a picture of total darkness to justify their

authoritarian measures increasingly maybe not even increasingly it's been there for a long time but like i was thinking about this over the weekend the you get the same type of rhetoric in terms of like anti-semitism like everything anti-semitism is everywhere it is what's inspiring the EU after two years uh nations in europe to even like do a head fake to a Palestinian state. It's inspiring, you know, lawmakers to say that we shouldn't send weapons to Israel. I mean, it is this, the right-wing authoritarian mind must paint a picture of chaos and darkness and evil forces. Frankly, you've been watching and or the empire did the same thing.

Like create this notion of total chaos. We need to bring about order. We need to stop the hatred that is boiling there by sending in troops. Go ahead. From crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor, and worse. This is Liberation Day in D.C., and we're going to take our capital back. We're taking it back. Max Squalor.

Under the authorities vested in me as the president of the United States, I'm officially invoking Section 740 of the District of Colorado. Columbia Home Rule Act, you know what that is? And placing the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control, and you'll be meeting the people that will be directly involved with that. Very good people, but they're tough, and they know what's happening. And they've done it before. In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help reestablish law, order of public safety in Washington, D.C. and they're going to be allowed to do their job properly.

And you people are victims of it, too. You know, you're reporters, and I understand a lot of you tend to be on the liberal side, but you don't want to get mugged and raped and shot and killed. And you all know people and friends of yours that happened. And so you can be anything you want, but you want to have safety in the streets. You want to be able to leave your apartment or your house. Okay. There it is. I mean, it really is stunning how sort of by the book this is.

It's also as old as Donald Trump's political activism. It's very much echoes how he was talking about executing the Central Park Five, who were also children between the ages of 14 and 16. Big balls allegedly got beat up by two teenagers, two 15-year-olds. So he sent out Janine Piro out there to talk about how they can't touch teens in the way that they want to, which is a theme in the administration in a variety of different contexts. But she means basically lowering the age in terms of when you can prosecute children as adults. So it's just this is all like the racist broken windows policing stuff being federalized as being used in the context of immigration in particular. But the big thing here is the complete fallacy of the predicate for this, the total fallacy. Again, record lows in crime in this city, even if it was at, I don't know, some type of baseline, completely inappropriate. but record lows and this is just essentially uh proof of concept for the administration for the regime and the proof of concept is can we take a place that it's record low crime say that it has

bedlam and worse than rape bedlam craziness darkness bloodshed and worse and worse like Max Bedlam. And can we then use that as justification to send in troops? Now, of course, the dynamic between the federal government in D.C. is unique. But recall, they've sent in troops to California on the predicate that we're protecting federal police workers, essentially. Now they find another predicate that is based on a lie, even though they have legal authority to do this. This is just like essentially probing around, seeing what kind of reaction we get. Where can we do this?

They're going to do this in D.C. And then in a month, two months, we're going to see it somewhere else. They're going to wait for a predicate. Maybe it's California wildfire somewhere. Maybe it's some natural disaster. There's looting going on everywhere. We need to send in the National Guard. This is what they're going to do.

They're going to keep doing this. And I think the uns seriousness of this alleged crime against Big Balls shows why a united front and not giving of the fascist an inch is so important. Because if they can use some crime like this, to justify this kind of action. Imagine if something and when something worse does happen. Exactly. I mean, this is not justified by any individual crime.

It's not justified by, again, like even a baseline of crime. But if we make it the most ridiculous thing, it's just, again, pushing this, you know, for lack of a better turn, over, Overton window, as to what becomes sort of normalized. Like, oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, Big Ball's got mugged. Send it in the National Guard.

We're already there with immigrants. Totally. And the, you know, anecdotal evidence of, oh, here's this terrible thing that happened from a migrant. So now we have to deport everyone. Here's like four guys from Venezuela with guns going into an apartment complex. We've got to, we're being invaded by Trenton to Agua. Go ahead.

Until you knock the hell out of them, because it's the only language they understand. stand. But they fought back against law enforcement last night. And they're not going to be fighting back long because I've instructed them and told them whatever happens, you know, they love to spit in the face of the police as the police are standing up there in uniform. They're standing and they're screaming at them an inch away from their face. And then they start spitting in their face. And I said, you tell them. them you spit and we hit and they can hit real hard it's a disgusting thing i've watched that for

years for three four years i've watched them oh i pause it oh i bet you've watched that for for year for three or four years because you literally are describing almost action for action word for word what happened on january 6th and he pardoned every single one of them he there's a guy in his DOJ who was seen kill yelling kill those cops kill those cops kill them get them kill them over and over again as people are literally pounding on these cops it is i mean there's not much we can do about this but it is very important that people maintain sort of an awareness of just how much bullshit this is and anybody who like you know reinforces this stuff uh is is adding to the problem his blanket pardon for the january six stuff uh it was he out flanked as

as many of the people that were advising him because he also gave clemency to people who were like pedophiles apart as a part of january six he also said he's been watching this for years and years and then he's corrected three to four years because he's forgot he had a term. Right, exactly. This has been going on for three to four since really, okay, it dropped out and then it was, okay. Watch them, the police are saying, and they're told, don't do anything under any such or this, and you can see they want to get at it. And they're standing there and people are spitting in their face and they're not allowed to do anything. But now they

are allowed to do whatever the hell they want. This dire public safety crisis stems directly from the abject failures of the city's local leadership, the Radical Left City Council adopted no cash bail. By the way, apparently

crime drops dramatically when you have no cash bail. A lot of things that we've been hearing about for the past four years cropping up right now is they make this power grab. It helped them get into office by creating a fictional America, and now you've basically handed them the tools.

All those people like, wait, I was just against, you know, trans people in women's sports. Why is it that the entire conservative movement now is against the WNBA and essentially outlying trans people? I'm so shocked. I was very explicit. I had a very narrow critique. that I hammered day after day, after day, after day. And I was just worried about nobody doing anything about these roving gangs

that apparently constituted a drop in crime and actually turned out not to be anything. And now they're just taking anybody who's Venezuelan and sending them to gulags. And all I did was talk about it day after day after day, because I really wanted to hit this very subtle point. I don't know. Maybe I was wrong about Dave Rubin.

I mean, these are chickens coming home to roost. It really is just enraging. All right. In a moment, we're going to play this interview that we just did about 20 minutes ago with Dr. Tarak. Lubani. He is a, uh, he's in a Nasser hospital and, um, called us from Gaza. Emma had, uh, spoken to him a year ago and he's, um, he's, he's been in Gaza for the past three months. He had been in Gaza a year ago. Um, he had previously done work there. He was, uh, shot during

the 2018 Great March of return. And we will link to his, we talked to reference in the interview, but another reminder doesn't hurt. The Glea Project is working to provide medicine right now and medical supplies to the people in Gaza. So if you would like to check that out, folks, it's going to be down below. A couple words from our sponsors. As you know, there have been massive cuts to foreign aid.

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I know that you spoke with Emma. You're now in a Nassar hospital near Con Unis. Why don't we start with that? What has changed over the past year? Yeah, a lot has changed here over the past year. past year. I've been in Gaza this time for the past two and a half months, so not quite a year. But even getting in was incredibly challenging because the Israelis, of course, will prevent anybody from entering and have been constantly banning any international medical groups or

any medical groups at all from entry. Since we spoke, Gle has been banned by the Israelis for reasons unknown and only through some Herculean diplomatic efforts where we and the six other organizations that were banned with us allowed back in. So what's changed in the past year? All of the Palestinians who I see are more impoverished. There are, of course, many more people killed, and everybody is starving. Over the past year, almost everybody that I've met has been forced out of their homes at least once, some of them two, three, four times. And the amount of food that has been coming in, has progressively dwindled to the point that now, when I see patients, almost everybody is stark. Really, truly, every patient who I see, I can clearly

make out their spine, I can make out their scapula, their shoulder blades, I can see how much weight they've lost, the skin that's hanging off of them that shows me what they used to look like before the war. It has been grinding, it has been painful, and it has been progressive. And of course, as you know, it's all been driven by this depraved, almost maniacal Israeli policy of making sure that Palestinians can't live. When you talk about the starvation, can you explain from your perspective as a physician what starvation does to the human body, especially once you get to a certain point where it's difficult to reverse it, even if nutrition was going to be provided immediately.

Yeah, you know, I've had a good look on starvation for quite a while. I myself have been on several hunger strikes, especially when I had been previously jailed. I've followed people on hunger strikes. I've seen people in famines. And this true, and of course in Palestine, Palestine has been the subject of restriction of food for many years. Dove Wiseglaas, and I think it was 2007, was an advisor to then Prime Minister Ehud Olmer and started what he called the Gaza diet, which was a caloric restriction program that made sure that Palestinians didn't have, enough literal calories. They literally counted how many calories were allowed into Gaza and made sure

that there weren't enough for every Palestinian. But all of these programs, they allowed still for the fact that Palestinians could do their own thing. And so actually one of the biggest reasons why there's a famine right now isn't the cutting off of aid, but rather the complete raising of almost all agricultural lands, something to the effect of 98% of all agricultural lands have either been heavily damaged or completely raised. So when Palestinians were able to obtain a measure of self-sustainability, that self-sustainability was taken when their lands were literally bulldozed and when anybody who went to try to replant the land was killed and shot as though they were some kind of, you know, freedom fighter.

Like they were just trying to raise, you know, some animals, some simple animals, or to plant some simple crops. Even now, in the midst of the starvation, almost the only food that is here is food that has been grown by Palestinians for everybody. In terms of what it does to the body, I mean, I can describe to you some of the scenes. I went, I'm myself, I'm not a pediatrician, but because I'm not a pediatrician, because this is not the thing that I see the most, I decided to go to one of the malnutrition wards.

And of course, the malnutrition award is based in the pediatric hospital because the people who are the most impacted by malnutrition are the kids. Malnutrition and these famines, they impact the weakest people in society. And so when I first got to Gaza two and a half months ago, what I was seeing were the old people, were the people who had pre-existing medical problems, the young kids, they were the ones who were dying of malnutrition and who looked like they were clearly suffering. And they looked just like you imagine out of the textbooks, Emma. Like they really did look like skin and bones, barely

surviving. And I remember the first little girl who I saw less than a year old, I believe she was about eight months old, and her father had brought her in because he thought that we could something to help her. And she was dead. He put her on the table in front of us. And I looked at her and realized like, oh my God, this little girl has died because they couldn't feed her. And I asked him some questions, half because it was my job medically, half just out of curiosity about how exactly this happened. And of course, for her, since the beginning of the war, she had had very little access. There was no formula available. The formula that was available was incredibly expensive and so out of reach for the family. And when they came to the hospital, the little formula that they were

given as part of the hospital treatment was simply not enough. They took lentils, which at the time was the only thing available, was some lentils, and they mixed it with water and tried to give that to her as a kind of formula. That doesn't work. It didn't work. She died. And I realized, looking at her, she was eight months old, she looked like she was three or four months old, and she had a weight that was about as much as what a little newborn baby would have. In that specific case, before we could even say too much to the family, a mass casualty started, and they were off to the morgue, you know, while we dealt with all these other Palestinians. But every single Palestinian who I see at this point, their body looks emaciated.

like I described to you, you can see clearly the bones going through the skin. You can see clearly the impacts. At this point, the people who are severely malnourished, they will die. They will all die. That is thousands, if not tens of thousands of people. And that's not because it's impossible to fix their problem. That's because Israel will not allow us the materials and the supplies that we need to fix their problem. And so even when Israel did start allowing supplies in like they have over the past week,

for example, yesterday I ate a little piece of meat for the first time in three months, a little piece of meat. You know, now that those supplies have started coming in, they're still not enough. It's still too little. We are receiving bichaloric count 60% of the population's needs. And so even though we're now eating, we're eating most of us, meal a day. And the people who are starving, they need massive numbers of calories, but not only that, they need nutritious calories. I can't just give them rice, which is what's available.

I can't just give them lentils, which is what's available. Or yesterday what arrived some kidney beans. I need to give them highly nutritious foods that include vegetables, that include greens, that include vitamins, you know, things like that. And that's why the people who are so deeply malnourished are going to die. And my understanding is it's sort of just the severity is creeping up the sort of the spectrum or across the spectrum of healthy people, right? I mean, like almost any other dynamic, I would imagine, the more vulnerable you are health-wise in the best of times, the more susceptible you are to succumbing to this.

What, do you have any sense that there, I mean, the Israelis are claiming that food supplies are being intercepted? Do you have any sense of that? Is there any talk of food supplies being intercepted or rather just simply, it's just not coming? I think it's very clear. Firstly, we have to start any time we say about anything about an Israeli statement that to be prefaced with, the Israelis are war criminals and serial liars. They lie basically about everything, including, you know, yesterday there are pronouncements about these journalists who are killed. The Israelis are war criminals and liars. In this specific case, let's expand upon how

they're lying. They're lying in two ways. The first way is that there isn't enough food coming in. The whole premise of food being looted and diverted is the fact that they're simply isn't enough food for people. And so it creates a dynamic where people can sometimes compete for the food. If there was an orderly way in which food could be given to people, then that simply wouldn't exist. So yes, there is some food being looted, but the primary reason for that is because the food is not sufficient. However, here's another question. Where is the food being looted? Where are these things happening. They're almost universally happening in what are called red zones, areas that the Israelis themselves protect and enforce. And the people who are doing the looting are people

who are Israeli sponsored. They are gangs like the gang of Abu Shab. They are groups of people who are literally under the protection of the Israelis. And any time Palestinians, whether it be Palestinian families, Palestinian police, which do exist, or the Palestinian citizenry, any time that they fight these gangs, what they find, and I've literally seen this when one of these gangs attacked the hospital about a month and a half ago, is that the Israelis quadcopters show up, the Israelis drones show up, and start fighting in terms of protecting their goons and killing anybody who's trying to bring order back to the situation. So you've seen that.

You've been, I mean, you've experienced being under attack at Nasser Hospital and the, and is Israeli military support, basically these drones coming in and fighting alongside one of these gangs. And just I don't know that people have a full awareness of Hamas exists in the context of Gaza, but there are competing gangs that particularly now, and we see this whenever you destroy the infrastructure of a country, competing gangs start to rise, and some are being supported actively by Israel as a way ostensibly of, I guess, fighting against Hamas, but also as surrogates for Israeli forces. Yeah, let me paint you a picture of the attack on Nassau that happened in June.

So the first thing to say is that that attack, the last attack, the one that I'm going to describe, was the sixth attack on Nassad that primarily were Israeli-led. These ones included Palestinian gangs, but they were primarily Israeli-led within a three-month family. We're not talking about something that rarely happens. The Israelis attacked Nassad and other hospitals regularly. Yesterday, they destroyed a good portion of the emergency department while they were assassinating journalists.

So the Israelis attack Palestinian hospitals regularly. The way in which this happened was that I was in where we are in these accommodations for international doctors and health care workers that are relatively high up in the hospital. And all of a sudden, it was like all how broke loose shooting everywhere by all manner of heavy weaponry and light weaponry. And so, of course, we all bunkered down, went to the ground and being an emergency doctor and this having been the third attack on the hospital, I knew that I needed to get to the emergency. So I ran down to the emergency department where these gangs were trying to break into the hospital, shooting at anybody who they could. They killed, I think, four or five people in the hospital within the two days before. That was a third attack in three days. And we, of course, took our patients to the ground.

And I remember this one little girl who was there with a chest tube and her family around her because there had been a bombing. she caught some shrapnel, some obviously Israeli bombing shrapnel that had gone into her chest. So we put a chest tube to drain some of the blood that had accumulated around her lung. And so we put her to the ground.

She was six or seven, of course, terrified. And her family around her were terrified, too. And we just sat there while these gangs sort of attacked. And one of the things that was unique and different was that we heard the quadcopters that were protecting them and pinging off anybody who was around, who was firing back, who was trying to protect the hospital. And then finally, there was a drone strike

just before the Palestinian police were able to repel the gang. Of course, the responsibility was taken by Yasser Abu Shab in a Facebook post. Like, we're not speculating about who did this. And Yasser Abu Shabab said, yes, we were supported by the Israelis. because we are doing the right thing. That's what he said in his Facebook post. He took down the Facebook posts, I think, when his handlers realized how damning that post was, but they took full responsibility for it.

This kind, I want to just sort of pull back to what this is from. The Israelis are interested in deep chaos in Palestine. Palestine is not a chaotic society. Palestine is a very highly ordered society. and people know how to self-organize. I was amazed the first time that I went to one of these refugee camps with tents. The tents were almost like put by a laser line. You know, they were all lined up.

There were no tents at a line. There were little streets. People were organizing the tents, providing supplies, making sure that the very little that was available was available to everyone. There is no disorder by nature in Palestinians or Palestinian society, or I would argue, among anybody, anywhere. In disasters, we usually see people self-organized and are very good to each other. So Israel keeps trying to stoke these flames of civil unrest among the Palestinians and the different factions.

What entities end up protecting the hospital from these assaults at this point? It's the Palestinian police. So the Palestinian police still exist. They have to basically be relatively undercover, but they're around. And obviously, like any other police, some of them have light weapons like guns or some light assault rifles. And they are the ones who everybody, regardless of faction, is hoping, are going to be able to protect us when these guys show up. When the gang showed up that first day, the first of the three days, and started killing people, executing people in the emergency, all of us, regardless of faction, regardless of creed or belief, we're all hoping. that the police would be there to protect us, that the security of the hospital would be there to protect us. So, yeah, it's the Palestinian police.

There are also, there's also one other main faction that your audience might have heard of, which is called the Arrow Unit. The Arrow Unit is a kind of internal protection unit that tries to put down these types of disorders that has targeted Abu Shab, that has killed members of Abu Shab. Yesterday, for example, by Nassar Hospital, some members of the Aero Unit had brought a stolen truck that was loaded with flour that had been stolen by one of the gangs and just left it at the gates of the hospitals so that people could take anything that they wanted of the flour. And, you know, nobody sees them. I don't know what they look like. Nobody knows what they look like. They show up, they disappear. And when people ask, you know, how did this truck get here? It was obvious that it was the Aero Unit.

But other than the aero unit, which is technically a subdivision of the resistance, the Palestinian resistance, which at this point is a combined operation between all of the armed factions, it's just the simple Palestinian police, a civilian force that is answerable to whatever democratic forces still exist within the society. What do you know about how many hospitals are actually functioning at this point through the strip? yeah we have to take a very very liberal view of what the word functioning means so imagine you know what what it looks like to have a hospital that works you know you've probably been to hospital at some point for yourself or for a loved one and there are certain expectations like for example you expect that your doctor is being paid well salaries are very rare here very difficult to come by you expect that your doctor probably was able to sleep the night well most almost all, if not all of the medical stuff that I worked with yesterday, I worked in a shift yesterday

that was 24 hours, almost all of them are sleeping in tents, if not all of them. You expect that they're fed. Well, doctors are literally passing out on the floor sometimes because they're so underfed. We're eating what the population is eating. And so for literally over a month, the most that I used to get was a handful, a literal handful of rice or of lentils. And I want I want to know. I am an international. I literally have access to the most of everything. And still, that's the food that we were receiving. We were receiving the same food as everybody else, which was provided out of whatever aid. So when we say that the hospital is functioning, we're talking about an absolutely Sisyphian effort that Palestinians put in, in which

they show up despite losing their family members, despite themselves sometimes being wounded, despite not having anything or definitely not enough to eat, and despite none of us having equipment to eat. And I have so many stories of times that I saw patients and wished that there was something that I could do for them, that there was something more that could happen for them. You know, patients who were so eminently treatable and I couldn't treat them because of a lack of supplies. Every day, it's like a surprise what exactly we're going to be lacking on that particular day. Yesterday was glove day. There were just no gloves. And so that meant that again, I would wear one glove. Obviously, they sometimes come in packs of two when they're not in

boxes. And so I would wear one glove, try to deal with a patient as much as I could. That was the glove that I dealt with the patient with as much as possible, and then just wash the other one when it got full of blood. Another day, it was gauze day. Simply no gauze. Medications are almost 80% at severe shortage and 50% stockout, zero supply. Do you, have you ever had a pain medication? Because in Gaza, you can't. You know, have you ever needed some kind of intravenous antibiotic? because almost all of them are out in Gaza, it is, yes, they are functioning, but they're functioning despite these severe locks

and really by the most liberal definition. There's Nasser, the hospital I'm at. It is the best functioning. And then the other main hospital is Der El Balah, Al-Aqsa hospital, and then the last one is Shifa Hospital. That's it. There's these smaller, you know, just indignities that I also think don't get spoken about full.

like there was a piece. I'm forgetting which paper it was in, but about there's no menstrual products for women and girls. And people who are pregnant are also incredibly vulnerable. Can you speak a little bit about pregnancies and what life is like for the creation of life in the Gaza Strip amongst these horrific conditions? there is quite literally nothing more hopeful to me than to see a little baby in these environments. And any baby who is born despite this tremendous hardship that happens. Of course, there's no contraceptive products here. So it's not like, really, there are many options.

And like you said, there's no menstrual products. It's the only, you know, we brought Glea just about a month ago, brought in a bunch of of reusable menstrual products. And that's the best that we can do. But most women who I see when they're on their period, when I see them in the hospital, have usually torn up t-shirts that they're using as makeshift menstrual products. So there is a severe shortage of basically anything like that. And, you know, speaking of people who need things, of course, there's a trans population in Gaza who are on all kinds of hormonal products that are also not available. So the shortages are severe and are drastic.

When a baby is born, the first thing that we try to do is to feed the mother as much as possible. Families, you see entire extended families, pouring their resources and sacrificing their food for the mother so that the mother can produce breast milk. If the mother doesn't produce breast milk, there is a good chance that child is going to die because Israel does not allow baby formula into Gaza. And as I say the words out loud, I mean, it really hits me hard because we're talking about baby formula. You know, we as an organization brought in some baby formula in one of the bags and were able to get it in. And when we presented it to the Ministry of Health, it was like Christmas for them because there just isn't enough. There was another doctor who tried to enter a couple of weeks ago, about four or five weeks ago. and all of his baby formula was identified and taken.

They saw it on the X-ray, and so they took it. And I won't discuss how we got our formula in. But suffice it to say, you know, we learned some of the lessons from how they identified his formula and made some adjustments. So just think about this for a second. We're smuggling in baby formula like it's cocaine. That's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.

And so if a child has to be on baby formula, they will be malnouraged because mothers have to water down the baby formula. They have to not give enough. They're trying their best to keep these children alive until either they can start taking in any kind of solid nutrition or until the situation changes. Now, in terms of what it looks like, in terms of dealing with babies, we see pregnant women who are the victims of bombings all the time. And I remember this one woman where she'd come in, the woman was dead, very, very dead. And the first thing we do when we see a woman that late term, as we asked, when did she die? They said, well, it's only been about five minutes. So we put the ultrasound and saw this baby scrambling in there, but with a good heart rate,

and it was obvious that this baby was going to die unless we did something. And so then the question began, you know, do we have a baby? a little ventilator for the baby, and we didn't. Do we have the equipment to take this baby out? It's called the peri-mortem's caesarean section, and we didn't. And so me, the other doctor, senior doctor at the moment, and the junior doctors, we stood around this woman, and I had this knife in my hand. I was ready to go on this cut, and all we could really think is to what?

I think if we were even in a Gaza of six months ago, six months ago, that baby would have been treatable. But on this particular day, we knew that if we tried to cut this baby out, we had no medicine to give it, no nutrition to give it, no, you know, there's a special medication for the lungs that helps them operate in those first days when they're not yet ready to be born. We had none of that to give it. we had nothing we had nothing and so we watched with our ultrasound on this dead mother's belly you know as that child's heart wound its way down and its fight gave way to just death and you had said how much has changed we were speaking briefly before since you know we last spoke because in many ways of course the genocide is ongoing but i even see it Dr. Lubani and you, that it's, you've lost some weight, right? I mean, it's, it's different than when we,

we last spoke. The level of suffering over the past year, if you could just put that into context, because you also previously have been doing work in the Gaza Strip, and before the active genocide began, you were shot in the peaceful Great March of Return in 2018. So you have a good sense of how the suffering has escalated, just a big picture view from your perspective. I think probably the best way to describe the big picture is my trips to the morgue. We end up with so many bodies in the resuscitation part of the emergency department that often I can't do medicine. I have to turn into somebody who literally carries bodies because some of these people, their entire families, that there's nobody to take them. Usually the people

who take people to the morgue are their families. And sometimes the entire family is executed in one of these assassination operations or in one of these tent massacres. And so I start taking people over. And occasionally, as I'm taking people over, somebody will look over at the body, ask me about it, or, you know, say something. And a year ago, when somebody's died, there was this, there's always a deep mourning. Palestinian society is a society of life that also sort of venerates both its living and its death. And people would have this sadness that somebody had died. Now when somebody dies, you see that there's a kind of relief that most people say, God has now shown this person mercy. God has given them mercy to take them out of this

brush hell and that's truly how it is you know you noted that I've lost weight yeah I've lost weight yeah I haven't felt what it's like to have a full tummy in three months that's it's a it's a personally devastating experience

but it's a reflection of the fact that for four months five months now nothing has come into Gaza you know when Gaza was cut off just as Ramadan began which is a special kind of torture that's a time of real celebration for Palestinians and for Muslims.

And so they have suffered so tremendously over the past year that for all of us, when somebody dies, of course, there is a morning. But then there is also like that little bit of God has now ended this person's suffering once and for all. You know, now may they see paradise. You know, I was never really a deeply religious. person, but I can't but wish and hope for a paradise. Because the hell in which these people live before they show up to me in my emergency department, it's unbearable. It's unbearable.

I see them, you know, especially the kids. The little kids are, of course, the hardest thing for all of us. As you mentioned, I've seen a lot of wars. And I see a lot of men, a lot of women who have been shot, who have been bombed, who have been killed. And I've seen a lot of children too, but it's never felt like the war was against children, and almost as though everybody else who gets killed is on the side, you know, collateral damage, as though the whole thing is for kids. For example, today, seven children were killed in Gaza in what it really has to have been described as a targeting of just this house of kids. Schools have been targeted, shelters have been targeted. So with the biggest change that I've seen in the past year,

is that people in, despite staying strong, are in a spiritual sense, you know, being broken piece by peace, by the hunger, by the depravity, and by the feeling that, you know, I can't help but share, that nobody out there cares enough to stop this. Dr. Lubani, is there any, obviously, political pressure on the government's our government that's supporting this. Beyond that, in terms of aid, are there vehicles that you would recommend if folks want to try and help? Are there, or is it a day-by-day thing in terms of where to help?

Obviously, none of this is even remotely close to sufficient. And we need to, we need Israel to allow for more aid to come in. but from your perspective, is there anything that we can do or is it just simply people should share these stories? Sam, you know, one of the statements that you said, I kind of want to pick on for a moment. You said we need Israel to allow the aid to come in. Israel is a depraved criminal society running a war crime writ large,

mass large, and a genocide. they will not allow aid to come in. They will be forced to allow aid in. That, I think, can happen. And so we must force Israel to stand aside while aid goes in. We must force Israel to stand aside while Palestinians rebuild their agriculture. And we must force Israel into a ceasefire. Now, in terms of what you and your audience can do,

probably by this point, everybody watching this show has been to a protest. We know the protests work. The protests work in a way that's probably, excuse me, the protests work in a way that's probably a little bit different in the sense that we are not strong enough to beat back our governments in a single goal. But the fact that we have been persistent

over now two years, just shy of two years, it means that the governments have been forced to listen and then forced to take heed and force to change their actions. And so governments have changed the way that they're approaching things. Governments have done things differently. That's because of the persistence of your viewers and people like them who keep protesting. That's political attrition. There's also a kind of economic attrition that at our level has been driven by the boycott

divestment and sanctions movement. And at other levels have been driven by people like the Yemenis with direct boycott, and direct interception of the Israeli economy. And so that economic attrition is also really important. And of course, the last thing to stop this, perhaps the most important, is military attrition. Military attrition is what's happening on the battlefield. It's changing the way in which Israel is running this genocide

and it's stopping them from rolling into Gaza City or into other cities. For example, when they took Rafah, they were able to do it because the resistance wasn't able to stop them, but the resistance was able to stop them in Han Yunus. They surrounded Nasr Hospital over the past two months. All of Nasr has been surrounded and in a red zone, with it being the single exception, and it was the resistance that stopped the Israelis

from progressing to where they wanted to. So those three political, economic and military attrition, are what's going to stop this, and people have to think about how they can plug into one of those three and do the maximum that they can. Are we succeeding? Yeah, to some extent. Do we need to do more? Absolutely.

Last question. And this is probably beyond the scale of something that you can fully speak to, but I would still love to ask you because we get these death toll numbers in the United States that feel like these wild, wild undercounts. And the level of carnage that you're talking about here does not match the numbers that are printed in the Western press. could you just shed some light on that dynamic and why there is such a lag and what your assessment is of the true reality based on what you know? I loved your description. The numbers are a wild undercount. That's perfect.

I can tell you, for example, about malnutrition. So I work within the Ministry of Health System, right? We as what are called emergency medical teams international doctors and nurses and allied health professionals, we go in solidarity with medical teams. And so we sort of follow their lead in terms of how they do things. And so when I document what the cause of death is for somebody, everybody receives a piece of paper that says how they died. What our directive is, is that if there's anything other than simple malnutrition that's causing this death, don't write it down as a malnutrition case. You can write it as secondary tertiary, but don't write that this person died for malnutrition. Similarly, Palestinians do not count the dead unless they have been to a hospital.

So, for example, there have been many aid massacres, which, by the way, is another kind of depravity. We haven't even touched upon. And so when the aid massacres have been happening, there are many bodies that people tell me, lots of my patients will tell me there are bodies stranded there that we couldn't get to. We don't count those debt. We don't count them even really as more than missing because we don't know for 100% sure that that person is dead. Look at the lists the Palestinians release.

They release only the bodies they can identify with the ID numbers attached to them. Of course, it's a wild undercount. Think of how many people are under the rubble, how many people are still in red zones, how many people are thrown around laying dead in the sun in various parts, including at GHF sites, this Gaza humanitarian, so-called Gaza humanitarian foundation sites.

Of course, it's a wild undercount. really credible organizations that have done these counts for other places like Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo estimate the number at this point to be five to six times more easily. That's 300,000 people who are very likely dead. And of course, there's another concept in medicine called excess deaths. So for example, I've seen numerous number of people, for example, a dialysis patient. So I saw a dialysis patient who we worked on yesterday for a number of of ours who ended up dying. In our account, that person died of a kidney-related cause. But obviously, that person was malnourished. They couldn't receive dialysis care the way they were supposed to.

They were killed by Israel. They were killed by the occupation. But we don't count those as direct conflict-related deaths. Dr. Torek Lubani, thank you so much for your time today. And thank you for the work you're doing there. don't obviously, you know, I don't know what to say. It's sort of, sort of speechless what people are going through there and what you're having to deal with, which, so thank you for your time. Really appreciate it. Thank you. And I mean, the last thing to say is Palestinians are

staying strong. Your audience should say strong. And we should just keep working at this still. It's stops. Absolutely. And the Glea Project will put a link to that down below wherever people are listening to or watching this. Thank you. Thank you. Dr. Lubani in this podcast and YouTube description, just visually, the, it's pretty dramatic, but it's also worth sort of like seeing what he was talking about, I guess it was a year and a half. And he had been trying to get back into Gaza at that time period. And it was, yeah, just one of the, if not the most memorable interview I've ever done.

And it just struck me how desperately he wanted to get back in. And the heroism of that, knowing what you're going to endure as well. And he is, you know, Canadian, but of Palestinian descent. and still not being protected here. That does it for the free show today. Just a reminder, it's your support that makes this show possible. You can become a member at JoinThe Majority Report.com. When you do, you not only get the free show free of commercials,

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