The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3563 - Canadian Labor Victory; Resisting Trump's Invasion of DC w/ Lisa Gilbert
Episode Date: August 19, 2025It's Newsday Tuesday on the Majority Report On today's show: Canadian Union of Public Employees President Mark Hancock tears up a government order demanding Air Canada workers end their strike and ret...urn to work. Two days later a tentative collective agreement is struck. Co-President of Public Citizen, Lisa Gilbert joins the show to discuss Donald Trump's federal invasion of Washington D.C. and what Public Citizen is doing to resist. Politico's Playbook obtains audio of Andrew Cuomo's 4th fundraisers in the Hamptons which details Cuomo's intentions to work with Trump during his mayorship. In the Fun Half: Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) continues her year of humiliation by making her first public appearance in her district in a long time and gets booed off the stage. Morning Joe invites the MSNBC heavyweights to come on the show and feign enthusiasm for the My Source | News Opinion World (MS NOW) rebranding. On a phone call with Fox & Friends, trump does everything he can to avoid talking about the current state of Ukraine negotiations. Majority Report's Middle School Correspondent, Saul Seder joins us to extort Sam. All that and more. The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the ESVN YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/esvnshow Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors RITUAL: Get 25% off during your first month. Visit ritual.com/MAJORITY to start Ritual or add Essential For Men to your subscription today. DELETEME: Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/MAJORITY and use promo code MAJORITY at checkout. SMALLS: For a limited time only, get 60% off your first order PLUS shipping when you head to Smalls.com and use code MAJORITY SUNSET LAKE: Head on over to Sunset LakeCBD.com and use code Majority for 15% off your first order. Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech Check out Matt’s show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon’s show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza’s music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com/ The Majority Report with Sam Seder – https://majorityreportradio.com
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Report with Sam Cedar.
It is Tuesday, August 19th, 2025.
My name is Sam Cedar.
This is the five-time award-winning majority report.
We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA.
On the program today, Lisa Gilbert, co-president.
of public citizen and founder of the
not above the law coalition
on
Trump's federalizing
or I should say sending in a federal
militia into Washington, D.C.
Also on the program today,
24 hours out, Russia already backing out of
Trump's imaginary peace summit.
This, as Russia
continues to pound Ukraine, Zelens.
leaves with some security promises, but few guarantees.
Meanwhile, Trump continuing to insist he can change mail-in voting despite the Constitution thing.
Air candidate to resume flights as defiant union forces an agreement.
Texas Democrats, meanwhile, forced to consent to.
to police escorts in Texas if they wanted to leave the chambers.
California moves to go forward on its redistricting plan.
DOJ starts to share Epstein files with Congress as witnesses are brought in, including Bill Barr.
I'm sure he was completely honest about his relationship.
With Epstein.
Hamas agrees to a ceasefire proposal.
Israel remains quiet.
Dan Bongino gets a babysitter at the FBI.
Andrew Cuomo reveals he's courted Trump's support in the mayor's race of New York City.
And speaking of Trump, the Trump's lump spreading beyond the Vegas strip now.
All this and more on today's majority report.
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
It is...
Newsday, Tuesday.
Emma was freaking out about me doing this with my pen beforehand.
We need her...
Oh, you've got to introduce my face.
There she is.
Yeah, I was doing this, and I saw you freaking out.
Well, I mean...
Tyler Cormite was distracting.
The tapping of the pen was distracting.
I'm just, I look out for our podcast audience.
You are having an emotional breakdown right now.
Some people have, you know, sensitivities.
I understand.
It's difficult sometimes when there are two different audio streams, going, crossing.
You can't focus.
I understand why people are hesitant to have you on rotisserie leagues and whatnot.
I got 30 seconds into the show.
No one is going to end.
No one is going to know.
Maybe we'll know eventually.
We're also going to have a special guest on the program later in the program.
In the fun half, our special middle school correspondent will be here to give us an update on some of the issues and maybe find out where he stands on the potential of, you know, the middle.
mayor's race because that has a big implications for snow days and so middle school kids are highly
invested we need his expertise um this story out of Canada it's um pretty impressive show of union strength
and determination um the about 10,000 air Canada flight
attendance were on strike on uh they are public employees should be clear uh air canada is a a national airline
and um on saturday um the canadian union of public employees president mark hancock was responding to a work order
from the Canadian Industrial Relations Board,
I guess more or less the functional equivalent
of our National Labor Relations Board.
Their labor law is obviously different than ours.
However, this board had basically said
the strike is illegal, you've got to get back to work.
And here is the union president of a coup,
I don't know how you pronounce it,
but the Canadian Union of Public Employees in Toronto at the Pearson Airport, this was Saturday.
This is the CIRB order.
Here's what I'm supposed to do.
I'm expected to say, stand down.
I'm expected to direct you to go back to work.
I'm expected.
to end this strike.
No!
No!
No!
When no!
When that is happening, my friends.
Not on my watch!
Not to know!
No!
I stated it pretty clearly
when this strike would end.
I said it clearly then,
and I will say it clearly
clearly now.
This strike will end when we get a collective agreement that works for our
government.
And of course,
you know, if an employer
knows that the government is going to step in
and end a strike when it starts to be becoming painful for the employer,
it really diminishes the power of a union,
unless, of course, that union
says uh we're going to defy this order and yesterday monday um during the day
handcock uh was i don't know if he was in the uh the cube national offices uh but uh here
he is yesterday um talking about the uh that order that was still an effect
as of yesterday afternoon.
There's no limit.
We're going to stay strong.
We're going to stay committed to making sure
those workers can do the
job that they love doing and
actually be able to afford a roof
over their heads, to afford
caring for their families.
And if it means folks
like me going to jail, then so be it.
If it means our union being fined,
then so be it.
We're looking for a
solution here. Our members want a solution here, but that solution has to be found at a
bargaining table. And then late last night, well, I don't know how late it was. The Air Canada
brought them back in. They had meetings. And as of last night, they struck a deal with the
union. It remains to be seen if the union's going to, if the membership is going to ratify it.
I don't know the details of the deal. But it is a good, I mean, it's the more that we see unions, labor, fighting.
And if not winning, I can't assess this deal, obviously. I don't even know if the, you know,
The details have been released in any way.
But this type of fight inspires other people to fight.
And you'll recall, Sean Fane had about a year or two ago made a call for General Strike on May Day of 28 and was calling on all sorts of unions to sign contracts and have them end right around that.
out of time. I was reading that a lot of what this dispute centers around is that
these that Air Canada pays flight attendants when the planes are you know either
taking a trip or in motion and they're trying to get pay as more traditional
employees which seems to make total sense and wasn't it true that last year Trudeau
intervened in the dock and railway rail strikes
that labor was really unhappy with at the time.
So I wonder if, and I just don't have the expertise to know this,
but if the C-U-P-E national president here kind of learned from
that what happened last year under a different labor leader.
I'm being corrected.
I guess Air Canada went private in 89, but still had public sector union
as its employees.
And I'm also being told it's pronounced
Kupai, like the Mayo, but I don't know what
Mayo...
That might be a joke.
QP?
I don't get it.
I wouldn't take that as face value.
Oh, it's QP.
QP.
So there it is.
People in Canada writing into us
on the IM saying that
all the Canadian news coverage of the strike
was so incredibly anti-strike.
I'm sure.
I don't doubt it.
I can't put this press.
All of, I mean, it's always often, even here in the U.S. is the same thing.
It's geared towards economic disruption and disruption to consumerism.
And that's the real strike was.
Yeah.
I mean, and that's what neoliberalism is where like we don't, and in the United States, we don't have
robust social services.
We have a very threadbare safety net that the Republicans just took a hammer to.
So what keeps our society kind of together under over the past few decades has been basically kind of cheaper goods.
And so that's how our press orientes their coverage of the health of our economy.
I wish that they would do so in North America around like the health of people's lives and workers' lives and their incomes.
So that seems to be a problem in Canada and in the U.S.
QP, I am's public sector union steward here, sharing the Air Canada story with members as proof you can violate the government order not to strike, achieve your goals and win.
This is, I mean, this is the point of acts like this.
I mean, and, you know, it's analogous to the stuff that we've been talking about in terms of how you fight authoritarianism.
one act regardless of its material consequences in that moment can spur other acts that end up providing
more actual genuine material consequences.
They're not mutually exclusive, but just understand that any point, particularly in the
context of what we're about to talk to Lisa Gilbert about when we have
you know, ice and other feds prowling the streets of D.C. in military vehicles.
These acts of defiance empower other people.
And what may seem meaningless very well may be just use the analogy you want.
And one link in the chain or one little butterfly.
wing that may
ultimately make real change.
You know the butterfly.
A butterfly effect.
You're a big Ashton Coucher fan.
You're always talking about it.
I have no idea about Ashton Cusher
as involvement in that whatsoever.
He did Dude Where's My Car, right?
Yeah, I was super shocked you even know the name.
That I knew.
Because I had a buddy who was actually offered that role.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And he said, he got up and he said,
F that and walked out.
Ross Rockley.
All right.
In a moment, we're going to be talking to Lisa Gilbert,
co-president of Public Citizen and founder of
the Not Above the Law Coalition.
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Do I have my normal level of anxiety about it?
Is it keeping me up?
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Quick break.
When we come back, Lisa Gilbert,
co-president, a public citizen,
and founder of the
Not Above the Law Coalition.
You know,
I'm going to be able to, you know,
and you know,
and I'm going to be able to be.
We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland, on The Majority Report.
Pleasure to welcome to the program, Lisa Gilbert, co-president of Public Citizen,
founder of the Not Above the Law Coalition.
Lisa, let's just start with this.
Give us a slight timeline or brief timeline of what's happened in D.C.
what authority the president is using to essentially, you know, invade D.C., I think in the way that
the word invasion is thrown around, I think this is pretty appropriate. Just lay that out for
us. Yeah, I, too, think that the word invade is appropriate. So what we've seen is a manufactured
crisis. They have claimed that there is out of control crime in the district. As someone who lives
here, I can tell you that that is not accurate, that violent crime is actually at a 30-year low.
And, you know, there was a explicit incident that they used to tee off of calling up a fake state of
emergency in D.C., which allowed, you know, Trump to, you know, move forward with trying to federalize
are police under the Home Rule Act, which gives them the ability for 30 days in this fake
state of emergency to take over the police. And then beyond that, they are using an authority
they do have, which is to call up the National Guard. And then in addition, over the last
couple of days, we've seen a request to go out to friendly states where allies, Republican allies,
are choosing to send additional state guard to D.C.
So, you know, we've seen that happening South Carolina, West Virginia, Ohio,
announcing that they're going to be deploying hundreds of National Guard members to Washington,
all in support of this power grab, which, you know, again, is completely unnecessary.
So let's just start with the home rule.
That's unique, obviously, to Washington, D.C.
there was an attempt to take over to replace the police commissioner and just walk us through how
that was stopped and like where where that leaves us and what happens that and then I guess
the follow up would be what happens after the 30 days but that's a separate I mean is that part
of the home rule or what is the constraint on that 30 days and that is is that unique to DC as well
That is unique to D.C. That is all part of the Home Rule Act. So, as you know, D.C. is unfortunately, not a state. So we have less prerogatives privileges than those that are. However, the Home Rule Act is what gives us the ability to function, you know, in a lot of ways, you know, as something that is more relevant than just a city. You know, we have powers. We have our own police force.
And so, you know, that is what is being taken advantage of here.
You know, there has always been this additional authority, you know, to federalize, if needed, under the Home Rule Act, sort of, you know, go above and beyond what you would be able to do in a state.
And in this case, you know, it is that you can proclaim that there's an emergency and then for 30 days take over the police force.
And so, you know, again, you know, dubious legality in this moment because there is no crisis.
There is no emergency.
At the end of 30 days, if they wanted to continue, Congress will need to affirm that there is an emergency, that there is a reason to take over the police, which, which as we've said, we don't believe there is.
But how replicable is this elsewhere?
I mean, this is almost asking you to expand on your answer here because obviously DC is so unique.
But we're seeing them test out their authoritarian impulses and desires in a variety of different contexts.
they tried in L.A., this D.C. thing seems to be an attempt to kind of reassert their efforts here.
Like, if you could just differentiate between what they're trying to do in other cities and what's happening in D.C.
Yes, you're right to say that D.C. is unique. You know, the Home Rule Act is something that's present here, and special conditions of an emergency nature need to exist for them to be, for the administration to be able to,
forced, you know, federal purposes on top of our metropolitan police force, you know,
a crime emergency allows them to do that if there truly is one. But again, limited to no more
than 30 days without congressional approval. Lisa, can I stop? Can I just introduce it? Because
is there a standard for what constitutes an emergency? I mean, or is there basically that a gray area
where a, you know, there's a grace period where you have the 30 days before you need to actually prove there is an emergency.
Because like you say, D.C. crime, 30-year low, and that was last year.
And from last year to now, it is down 26 percent year over year from where it was at a 30-year low.
I mean, so there's just no possible, rational way to argue that that's an emergency.
Unless you're, you know, it's a number, it's, we're, we have urgently low crime, uh, or something like that.
But, um, so is there no adjudication of that? Or is it just like you get 30 days to pretend there's an emergency and then you have to justify it?
It's a great question. I mean, under the Home Rule Act, it is, as you say, there's this moment where, um, they can initially declare that they see an emergency.
However, at the 30-day mark, if they try to extend, there is the potential to sue or to push back if we don't believe that there is one.
And I think all empirical data would tell us that there isn't one.
And in fact, the consequences of having troops on the ground unnecessarily of having this sort of heightened alarm in the city, it's causing other problems.
It's causing economic problems for our city.
It's, you know, sort of challenging us here for our own feelings.
safety as residents, you can feel the heightened alarm, which was not present before this fake
emergency was declared. But until we reach that point, that 30-day mark, there isn't a particular
litigation strategy. There are other things that are happening. You might have heard representative
Raskin introduced a resolution to try to just end the emergency now. So that's something we're
supporting. And obviously, if it could pass, that would be a way to move faster.
is there are there uh prophylactic uh measures that other cities can take like uh like
because it it feels like this is part of a uh a longer sort of plan where uh the the boundaries
are pushed and then we're going to go to another city and we don't know which one it is
but i suspect they have a list of five they've more or less said it you know whether it's like
Baltimore or Chicago or New York or Detroit or something like that, Philadelphia, where
they're probably just waiting for, you know, I don't know if it's another, if it's big
balls goes on a trip to Philadelphia and gets bugged there or whatever it is.
But they're waiting for some excuse.
Yeah.
Are there things that are being done now by these other cities or other?
groups or to get some type of like, I mean, I don't know what the mechanism would be.
I mean, it's a great point.
I mean, aside from what we were just discussing, the sort of unique characteristics of D.C.
that give them extra tools.
Obviously, we saw earlier this year what happened in Los Angeles, you know, the deployment
of the National Guard, you know, that's something that can happen in other cities, not just D.C.
and it's very clear that this is part of Trump's plan to sort of, at least in D.C.'s
case, take over a capital city, and, you know, that's a proven authoritarian move and
threatened to do so in other places as well where he precedes enemies or where there is
dissent against his other authoritarian policies.
So certainly we view this as part of a pattern of many other affronts that we've been
witnessing, you know, attacks on NGOs, on judges, on universities,
all the different pillars of society that are, you know, being threatened by Trump's moves.
You know, this is just a piece of the variety of ways that he is attacking democracy.
Oh, well, have you heard from, you said it briefly, how businesses are being harmed?
I'm seeing some reports that reservations and business activity in D.C. is down, as Trump is
bragging that it's up. But I also know that some of the data may not be full.
comparable to last year because it was maybe restaurant week, and so it's not necessarily
one-to-one. But could you clarify just what the impact is on the activity in the city?
Yeah. I think some of that is still being unpacked for reasons you've said, and also that
August itself is a sort of low intensity time in Washington where many people go away. So,
you know, we don't usually expect an economic bump in this moment. That said, it is far less
than what was experienced this week last year.
You know, I think right now we have a lot of anecdotal reporting, though, from folks,
particularly in areas that are near some of the checkpoints that have been set up,
that their, you know, bars and restaurants are being impacted around the U Street area,
around the sort of Union Station area, et cetera.
So I think we're still figuring out exactly the empirical metrics, but, you know,
certainly we've got lots of stories from folks who can just, you know, walk into their business
where they expect a certain amount of traffic on a Friday or Saturday night, and they're seeing far less.
I would imagine it's also hard to disaggregate from the loss of tourism, that is international tourism,
that would probably be there in D.C. So, and is there, I would just got this question from, from I.M.
Or is there a cool off period? In other words, could they leave the city and then redeploy
two weeks later and keep doing this?
It's possible.
You know, I think, you know, they have a particular premise for the emergency they've
declared right now, that, you know, faux, violent crime rationale.
They could use something else.
They could say there's another reason.
There's another emergency.
I mean, we've seen Trump use the word emergency very liberally to try to achieve lots of
things that he wants, you know, on the climate side, you know, on other issue areas.
emergency is how they move the policies they want.
So it would not surprise me if that's something they try to do if they're thwarted by Congress
on this particular reason.
And do we have any idea of, I mean, I know that it was reported that there was about 120,
I think it was FBI agents who were reassigned to do foot patrols at night.
doesn't necessarily sound like something
that an FBI agent would be trained for per se
but do we know who's making up this federal force
because there was talk in the first Trump administration
particularly what went down at Independent Square
that there was a lot of like federal correctional
corrections officers
federal prison guards
who had been assigned
to these sort of policing functions,
which is not at all what they're trained for, it seems to me.
I'm curious, do we have any sense of, like, exactly who these people are?
I don't think we do.
I mean, I think a huge part of the problem right now is it's a grum of different types of law enforcement on the street.
And obviously, the masking that we're seeing makes it hard to identify particular persons.
the sort of lack of identification, you know, often things just say police, and that could be
referring to lots of different sorts of enforcement.
So a lot of what we're learning is sort of anecdotal people piecing together trying to
understand, but no, I don't think we have a complete picture at all of who is where and when.
Is there anything else that we should know about this, that we should be on the lookout for?
I would imagine this is going to ramp up into the middle.
term elections. I mean, because all of this seems to be less for Washington, D.C., and more for
the rest of the country, some audience out in the country, to make it seem like these urban areas
are hellholes and Trump's going in and cleaning up without really any investment in what's
actually going on in these cities. I don't, I mean, that's the thing. It's like, I don't, at the
end of the day think it matters how much people in Washington, D.C. are inconvenience,
terrorized on some level or their businesses go under. I don't think that even plays into
anything that they're calculating because they're just going to go out. I mean, Trump is already
like lying about, like just bald face lying about what's going on there. And with the images,
that's all they need. I would imagine we're going to see this in one or two.
other cities between now and uh november 26 what um what else should we know about this yeah um
well i would agree with you that it certainly seems like something they're testing in multiple
places and if they succeed they'll continue in in other uh cities jurisdictions localities um i think
the important thing to do is is actually what this conversation is evidencing just talk about it
talk about you know the the contrast you know trump talks about safety but if you
cared about that. He would stop kidnapping immigrant neighbors. He would fund Medicaid in schools
and snap. He would take care of people. And, you know, he would be talking about this in a very
different way. And I think the, just the contrast message of a fake crime emergency leading to,
you know, this incredible concentration of police force and army force and power, which is
actually making people less safe in contrast with the scary,
unethical, unsafe actions that his administration has been taking and talking about it in every
venue we can and drawing a through line between those types of activities and what authoritarian
do worldwide.
Lisa Gilbert, co-president of Public Citizen, founder of the Not Above the Law Coalition.
Thanks for your time today.
I really appreciate it.
Thanks so much.
Thank you.
All right, folks, we've got a little bit of time here.
let's talk about
city and
Donald Trump again
new story out
remember a couple weeks ago
it was reported
that
Andrew Cuomo had a phone call
with Donald Trump
he tried to downplay it
but new reporting now
apparently
some of
Andrew Cuomo's supposed
and supporters out in the Hamptons think he's a real D-Bag and decide to throw him under the
bus a little bit.
That's fun.
Whoever's the source for this stuff for Politico very much appreciate your service.
I think they should be awarded the key to the city if Andrew Cuomo loses in November.
Zoran will do that after, obviously, converting us to Sharia law first.
That's number two on the priority list.
it'll be the sword of the city so apparently um this was uh was this a politico right yeah um got a hold of a
what appears to be a secret recording of Andrew Cuomo at a Hampton's uh fundraiser this Saturday
this past Saturday I should say and this is like what his 55th time in the Hamptons since he lost
the uh no I don't know if it's actually
fourth time fourth time in the hamptons um raising money since he lost the um the primary which credit where credits do right like you want to do your fundraising where you can also mix in your vacation as you're running so hard to become the mayor it's like when adam sandler shoots all those movies in hawai it's like dude you just want to go to hawaii that's
four weeks. Exactly. And so
they have basically, they haven't done the entire
transcript, but there's a lot here.
As political rights, Andrew Cuomo's counting on
President Donald Trump and top Republicans to
tell the party faithful to vote for Cuomo for mayor if they
want to stop Zohran Mamdani and not to vote for a
Republican nominee, Curtis Slewa.
So essentially, Cuomo would become the Republican candidate in this race, which is not, I mean, one does not have to stretch the imagination.
It's like the IDC. He's IDC Cuomo, which is like you're secretly a Republican, but don't present as such.
Exactly. And I'm in it to win it. And there you go.
Cuomo told the crowd at this Hampton's fundraiser, according to audio obtained by Playbook,
we can minimize the Slewa vote because he'll never be a serious candidate, Cuomo says.
That's rich for coming from you.
Well, what's also interesting is that, like, just think of what the opposite would be.
We can't compete with this other guy because he's a serious candidate.
like he he really is so desperate now and then he goes on to say and trump himself as well as top
republicans will say the goal is to stop mom donnie and you'll be wasting your vote on slewa so
i feel good about that now it gets worse oh it gets worse and and it's interesting to me
that Cuomo has this knows what Trump's playbook is going to be.
I mean, it's almost as if they have worked together on it.
And here's the thing, though, before you get all uptight,
it's not like Donald Trump is a transactional guy.
It's not like Trump is the type of guy who says,
I ideologically have an investment in,
someone other than Mamdani winning.
Therefore,
I'm just out of the goodness
of my heart and a belief
in you should be sincere
and support who you. That's why
I'm going to give you support, Andrew Cuomo,
has nothing to do with wanting
something in return. No, he would never.
Never.
Politico goes on to say,
publicly, Cuomo has shunned the idea of getting any
help from Trump.
Cuomo said he declined an
endorsement and denied the New York
Times report that he'd spoken with the president
about the race. Well, this is weird.
It's almost as if Cuomo's been lying
in public. Weird.
But Cuomo seemed hopeful for the
president's help behind closed doors,
speaking to the more Trump-friendly
crowd gathered at MediaMogal
Jimmy Finkelstein's
home in Southampton.
Another co-host, former New York
City Council President Andrew Stein,
briefed Trump last month
on how Cuomo would be
competitive in the general election, according to the
Times. Get your wallet out.
This is the best part about this.
There was a, in the New York Times story from like a, that, that reported this, that,
that Stein and Mark Penn had tried to lobby the, uh, President Trump on the idea that Cuomo
got the best chance in the general election was also in there that Mark Penn
who is the scummiest of scumbags, incidentally, like the scummiest of scumbags.
He was Hillary Clinton's guy, but meanwhile was also campaign managing a race.
I think it was like in, I can't remember if it was Bolivia or like while he was doing Hillary Clinton's race.
Yeah, he like he's the CEO of this company Harris X and they released this poll for Fix the City.
the day before the primary that had Cuomo leading 52 to 28 and he lost 56 to 44.
So this is a junk poll guy who's like right wing.
He's a he also in addition to lobbying Trump that like he should back Cuomo in the general, Penn also was running a pack for Cuomo and getting paid.
So, in other words, this is just Mark Penn sucking money out of, like, Cuomo donors and people here.
So I'm in favor of that, although, you know, Mark Penn just enriching himself by just spewing bile all over the place.
But, all right, here is Cuomo again.
We're going to go back to Cuomo.
This is from the tape that Politico presumably has.
Let's put it this way.
I knew the president very well, Cuomo said.
I believe there's a big piece of him.
that actually wants redemption in New York.
Aw.
Redemption in New York.
Huh.
He feels he was rejected by New York.
We voted for Clinton.
We voted Bill de Blasio, took his name off of things.
So I believe there will be opportunities to actually cooperate with him.
I also believe that he's not going to want to fight with me in New York if he can avoid it.
Well, we know how he's going to over it.
avoid fighting with you in New York, you've already made a deal with him. You've already
capitulated. If you support me and get people to vote for me instead of Slewa, we're good.
Whatever you want, buddy, that's what's going on here.
When he says there will be opportunities to actually cooperate with him, what that means is
for immigrant New Yorkers, we are going to sell you over to ICE to this mass deportation
Gestapo if I get if I win and you have like uh I forget this councilman's name I had sent this
previously but there were a lot of protests over the weekend I'm going to try to find his name brief
in the second here is yeah sorry assemblyman Robert Carroll was is calling on Kathy Hochel to shut down
the power at 26 federal plaza because they technically the federal government sorry it's number four
in the sound sheet we have it oh okay well I mean we don't need to but it's just as an aside to point
out like the the federal government owns that building but the state has the power to turn off
and on their power like these are the kind of tactics that I would love to see Democrats in
the state do to protect immigrants from being snatched by ice and then this is the exact
opposite of what we want a guy who's going to come in and say he's going to cooperate with
this fascist administration and and it's it's quite clear that there is a quid pro quo on
quid pro quomo on the table right now um and quomo is just setting it up he is setting it up
and he is sort of like testing how he's going to sell it after the fact this is about cooperating
he doesn't want to fight with me well the reason why he doesn't want to fight with you is because
he doesn't need to it's because you've already capitulated you're literally on the same team
Where's the fight?
Curtis Slewa said, why don't we have a debate and see how many Republicans go with Cuomo, Slewa said.
In the streets, we have a word for that.
Fugazi.
I love New York politics.
I mean, it's really.
He's like, I'm going to out Italian you right here in East.
in Politico.
It's like warriors.
I'll just say.
Mom, Donnie's campaign
said, since he's too afraid to say it
to New York, his faces, we'll make it clear.
Andrew Cuomo is Donald Trump's choice
for mayor? Without a doubt.
But
I'm less, I'm not only
concerned, it's not a question
of whether Trump would prefer
Cuomo or this person.
It is, Cuomo is
actively going to be working with Trump
and actively owe him something.
never mind the billionaires that will support Cuomo never mind the New York
state Republicans the real estate lobby the the Ken Langone types the charter schools
the tax cuts for corporations he's going to owe Donald Trump what that what he owes him
we don't know but this is I mean this isn't just Donald
Trump's preference. This is his essentially representative in New York.
Cuomo also wants to get Eric Adams out of the race. So the anti-Momondani vote isn't split
among them. Adams won't allow himself to be a spoiler, Cuomo said at the fundraiser.
If that happened, he'd have to move to Florida afterwards. Or just move back to New Jersey.
where he's always lived. Cuomo is so obsessed with moving to Florida.
I know. Just go.
You just said yourself, this one's amazing.
Didn't Cuomo say like two months ago, if Mom Donnie wins, I'm going to move to Florida?
So you and Adams can go down there together, buddy.
Also, Adams wants to move to Israel.
What did you say?
Adams wants to move to Israel. He's already said.
And Cuomo is so, Cuomo is so, like, he is so petty.
and so small, he's saying that Adams would be responsible from Omdani winning.
It's Cuomo, who is the candidate who has, like, completely shot the bed that was made for him by all the billionaires.
Now he wants to blame Adams.
You couldn't even beat this guy in the...
Adams wasn't in the primary chief.
Yes, exactly.
Pizzoon.
It's like blaming the Celtics for the Thunder winning the finals.
Exactly.
Adams, who eviscerated Cuomo in a statement, was not happy.
He said, Cuomo is an embarrassing double-digit loser who couldn't beat a socialist,
and his failure created this entire scenario.
He should stop lecturing others, drop out of the spotlight,
and maybe start by giving his daughter back her apartment.
So that was the best thing that Eric Adams did as mayor, right there.
is it?
You said Penn, right? Mark Penn?
You know his buddy, Douglas, was it
Shown? Yeah.
In the hill, Zora Mamdani is a political
risk Democrats shouldn't take. And you look at
his bio, it's like he started this firm
with Penn in the 70s. He took $40,000 from a
Ukrainian guy for introductions to Hillary Clinton. Like, these are
crooks. Oh, total crooks.
Total scumbag crooks.
But it's funny that you mention the Hill because that Jimmy Finkelstein, the guy who he was at the fundraiser with, I'm pretty sure they have connections to the Hill.
Yes, it was, yeah, he was the former owner of the Hill.
Jesus.
All right, folks.
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Left Reckoning. Yeah, Left Reckoning
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Three months from now,
six months from now, nine months from now,
and I don't think it's going to be the same
as it looks like in six months from now,
and I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now
than it is three months from now.
But I think around 18 months out,
we're going to look back and go like, wow.
What?
What is that going on?
It's nuts.
Wait a second.
Hold on for a second.
The majority report.
Emma, welcome to the program.
Hey.
Matt.
What is up, everyone?
Fun hat.
No, McKean.
You did it.
Let's go Brandon
Let's go Brandon
On
Bradley, you want to say hello
Sorry to disappoint
Everyone, I'm just a random guy
It's all the boys today
Fundamentally false
No, I'm sorry
Women's...
Stop talking for a second
And let me finish
Where is this coming from, dude?
But dude, you want to smoke
This 7, 8?
Yes
Yes
Hi, please
You're safe?
Yes
Is it me
Is it me?
It is you
Um
Is it's me
I think it is you
Who is you
No sound
Every single
Fricking day
What's on your mind?
We can discuss free markets
And we can discuss capitalism
I'm gonna go to life
Libertarians
They're so stupid though
Common sense says of course
Gobbled e go
We fucking nail
So what's 79 plus 21?
Challenge met.
I'm positively clovering.
I believe 96, I want to say.
857.
210.
35.
501.
1 half.
3-8s.
911 for instance.
$3,400.
$1,900.
$6.5,4, $3 trillion sold.
It's a zero-sum game.
Actually, you're making me think less.
But let me say this.
Hoop.
You can call it satire.
Sam goes satire.
On top of it all, my favorite part
About you, it's just like every day, all day, like everything you do.
Without a doubt.
Hey, buddy, we see you.
All right, folks.
Folks.
It's just the week being weeded out, obviously.
Yeah, sundown guns out.
I don't know.
But you should know.
People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore.
I have a question.
Who cares?
Our chat is enabled folks.
I love it.
I do love that.
Look, got to jump.
I got to be quick.
I get a jump.
I'm losing it, bro.
Two o'clock.
We're already late, and the guy's being a dick.
So screw him.
Sent to a gulaw?
Outrage.
Like, what is wrong with you?
Love you.
Bye.
Love you.
Bye-bye.
So...