The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3563 - The World Leaves Us Behind; Greenland, Minnesota Fights Back w/ Adam Federman & Rep Aisha Gomez

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

It's hump day on the Majority Report On today's program: Canadian Prime Minister, Mark Carney delivers a sobering speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, acknowledging that the West's long-standing marriage of convenience can no longer excuse turning a blind eye to the United States' erratic and dangerous policies. Writing fellow at Type Investigations, Adam Federman joins the program to discuss Trump's push to annex Greenland. Rep. Aisha Gomez who represents district 62A in the Minnesota House of Representatives to provide updates on the ongoing ICE invasion of her state. In the Fun Half: As world leaders convene in Davos, Switzerland, delivering articulate and forceful arguments for distancing themselves from the United States, Donald Trump takes the stage, drooling and babbling into a microphone. Howard Lutnick continues the humiliation of the United States at the World Economic Forum, railing against green energy while peddling climate-denial conspiracies and falsehoods—drawing laughter from other world leaders. Scott Bessent proves just how out of touch he is, suggesting that people might buy five, ten, or even twelve houses to fund their retirement. The police chief of Brooklyn Park, MN speaks on the large number of complaints his and the surrounding police departments have received regarding racial profiling and abuses on behalf of ICE agents. Zohran Mamdani speaks on his support of abolishing ICE while appearing on The View. Rep. Pramila Jayapal explains why she cannot in good conscience vote to fund ICE as they are killing people and violating constitutional rights every day. All that and more To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: ZOCDOC:  Go to Zocdoc.com/MAJORITY and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor. SPOTIFY: Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/majority NAKED WINES: To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/MAJORITY and use code MAJORITY for both the code AND PASSWORD.   SUNSET LAKE: Use the code NEWFLOWER—all one word—to get 30% off their new crop of hemp flower and vape carts at SunsetLakeCBD.com  Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.co

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It is Wednesday, January 21st, 2006. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Adam Federman, reporting fellow with type investigations recipient of the 2020 FETI-Sov Award for Environmental Reporting. on the fight for Greenland. Meanwhile, then we'll be talking, I should say, Representative Aisha Gomez,

representing District 62A in the Minnesota House of Representatives on the invasion that's taking place in Minnesota. Also on the program today, Trump at Davos rules out a military attack on Greenland, but damage done as we enter a new, new world order. Treasury sell off over the Greenland controversy pushes mortgage rates back up to where they were before rate cuts. House tees up a vote on a funding package, including DHS funding. Meanwhile, Chuck Schumer AWOL, sign it doesn't come back until Monday.

Lindsey Halligan out as U.S. attorney, as her prosecutorial career, comes to a very, very brief end. Supreme Court oral arguments as to Trump's attempt to fire federal governor Lisa Cook. Supreme Court also oral arguments, skeptical of Hawaii's handgun limits. because of course. Trump's DOJ's subpoenas Minnesota state officials as part of the ICE invasion there. Elon Musk, remember him?

His Doge team gave Social Security data to Republican Stop the Steel Activist Group so they can try disenfranchised voters this time around. And U.S. seizes its seventh Venezuelan-linked tanker. In a bid, I guess, just to enrich Donald Trump or somebody in Qatar.

All this and more on today's majority report. It is. Humph day. Humpty. You were worried I wasn't going to make it back to the... I was worried. You really know how to... I know the timing.

For the podcast listening audience, Sam finished the ad, sprinted out of his chair because he realized he did not have his beverage with him. and made it back just in time. Yep. Can't get the DTs live on air. Call. Well, it was all that talk about wine at the beginning of the show. And so you got your bottle of vodka that you drink every day.

Exactly. I mean, frankly, I don't feel inside. I don't feel that too far off from that. Soon enough. Well, our Fridays are going to get really casual. Exactly. And they're going to start somewhere around like Tuesday. Thursday.

Thursday. Yeah. The fun half will just be us face down on the desk. So, Donald Trump was in Davos. Last night, there was a, I want to say a scare, but they're not really.

Right. I wasn't scared. Well, I texted you last night. The plane turned around. An excitement. So, Air Force One turned around. about like, I don't know, 200 miles off the coast of the U.S.

I thought like, oh, okay, we're going to invade Iran. We're going to attack Iran, which that may not come for another couple of days. Emma apparently thought that it signified that there was some medical problem with Trump. A succession scenario. Truly what I was thinking of, yeah. My sense is they would just like just drop them out the plane and just keep going. to Europe. That would constitute an environmental hazard, given the amount of chemicals on and inside of

him. That's true. Nevertheless, Donald Trump is in Davos now. He is just given a speech. We will probably play some of that speech or some of the completely bat-crap crazy stuff from his press conference yesterday. He has apparently said in Davos taken military. assault on Greenland off the table, which is good.

Don't you believe in compromise? I mean, honestly, like, I, if you had asked me three hours ago, I would have bet we're going to send 1,500 troops in there, and we're going to take it over over the course of the next couple of weeks. I don't think that anybody's going to accept an offer to buy Greenland or to sell Greenland, but I guess it remains to be seen. But of all the things happening at Davos, there was a couple of speeches that are really, really important. And only because I think this, you know, it's very difficult to project into the future. and see how history is going to look at this era. But there are two speeches.

One was by Ursula von de Lyon. She's the president of the EU. But she sort of reiterated at least some of what Canada's Mark Carney said. And there's a lot of politics of Mark Carney's that I'm not necessarily a fan of. But I think historians are going to look back at the, this speech as the marker, not necessarily of the beginning of the end, but perhaps the middle of the end or near the end of the end. The acknowledgement of the end.

Yes, of what I think both Carney and Vanderlion said was a rupture. But what we're seeing is the end, the genuine end of the post-World War II, war. world order. You know, there was some talk of it ending when, uh, the Soviet Union collapsed. And in some respects, the opportunity was missed by really all parties involved to, uh, change the, the world order. We had the project for a new American century, uh, Dick Cheney and other neocons in the early 90s, right around the time of the fall of the Soviet Union, we're basically plotting it out that the U.S. would be a hegemonic hyperpower and oversee tiny conflicts that existed in regional areas that would keep everybody busy from sort of like organizing

against the United States. And we would have hegemonic power over the world, largely economically. And to some extent, that's the way it was through the 90s. And Iraq probably was, and I'm sure some would argue also just sort of like globalization in general was certainly inevitable in terms of undermining U.S. hegemony. But Iraq certainly showed that we were a bit of a paper tiger. And who knows if, you know, things could have gone. in a different direction. But I do think that yesterday, this speech is going to be pointed to because it's convenient. And it's also the first time we've heard really one of our allies

be so explicit. And acknowledging the hollowness of the rules-based international order. I mean, we'll analyze this after we hear from Carney, but of course, this story cannot be told without the genocide in Gaza. Indeed. But that's all. part of the story, but I think the major, the breaking point is sort of what he admits here, which is we all believe the lies because it benefited us. We are on, we, we're in the protection racket, but we're realizing that we might be on the side of the, like, we're now going to experience blowback from this. And the Americans have become essentially the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the

of the world. And we're on that side. That's what this recognition is. I think he's realizing that we have just got cut loose. I mean, they made this deal with China. I don't think it's a coincidence that he made this deal with China last, I don't know, a couple weeks ago. And here's a portion of that speech. For decades, countries like Canada prospered under what we called the rules-based international order. We joined its institutions. We praised its principles we benefited from its predictability. And because of that, we're going to play a different version here. It was getting a little crispy.

This speech, I think, in total, was only about 15, 16 minutes. So it's probably worth you checking out the entire thing. But this clip, do we have it? Okay. For decades, countries like Canada prospered under what we called the rules-based international order. We joined its institutions. We praised its principles.

we benefited from its predictability. And because of that, we could pursue values-based foreign policies under its protection. We knew the story of the international rules-based order was partially false. That the strongest would exempt themselves when convenient, that trade rules were enforced asymmetrically. And we knew that international law applied with varying rigor

depending on the identity of the accused or the victim. This fiction was useful. An American hegemony in particular helped provide public goods, open sea lanes, a stable financial system, collective security, and support for frameworks for resolving disputes. So we placed the sign in the window. We participated in the rituals. And we largely avoided calling out the gaps between rhetoric and reality. This bargain no longer works. Let me be direct. We are in the midst of a rupture, not a transition. Over the past two decades,

a series of crises in finance, health, energy and geopolitics have laid bare the risks of extreme global integration. But more recently, great powers have begun using economic integration as weapons. Tariffs is leverage. Financial infrastructure is coercion, supply chains as vulnerabilities to be exploited. you cannot live within the lie of mutual benefit through integration when integration becomes the source of your subordination. Now, when he says great powers, he could be talking about China, but I think we all know the great power that he had been dealing with, he being Canada, obviously he's not Canada, is the U.S. and the crises Iraq, the financial crisis the I mean the failure in many respects

of the United States take the lead in terms of the pandemic these are the things that he's responding to and he's basically just saying like it doesn't work anymore, it's broke I mean I just say like it's interesting as you know we've been producing this show

for them to admit that the things we were saying about the order or like Noam Chomsky, there's a peace and foreign policy mag that said Nome Chomsky was right. That was true and accurate. And they were just saying that we were wrong because it was convenient for, I guess, their type, what they considered civilization to say that we were wrong about it. Karnie acknowledges that they basically absorbed the contradictions of the rules-based international order because that was the choice as like a mid-sized nation under the umbrella of the United States. And what he's making a plea for Europe to do is to cut ties in the way that he's basically doing

or to develop a new economic, gosh, there's the loudest sirens outside. Sorry guys, but to develop relationships that are reflective of this new international world order that is going to be multipolar. There's no question about it. I mean, even the Trump, the isolationist

policies of the Trump administration or the desire to return to the Western hemisphere as a part of our sphere of colonialism and influence is a recognition of that from Trump as well. Yeah, I think so. But I think from the perspective of non-superpowers, that's what the difference is. He's basically saying, like, we agreed, we bought into the lie because it worked for us. And from a pragmatic perspective, I mean, you know, there's no, it's not taking a moral position here at all. He's his basically saying it's a pragmatic exercise. It doesn't work anymore.

And so it was a marriage of convenience and one which we would sort of pretend that we loved each other. And but you know what? It's not convenient anymore. And so now we don't have to pretend a little out of control. Yeah. And also, I mean, you see when there's no alternative to capitalism as well, like that is, it's not just the United States being uniquely evil or imperial. of course, as like the global hegemon for my entire life, that's the center of our critique. But when, you know, the talk about the end of history and the fact that at the fall of the

Soviet Union, there was like this belief that capitalism will reign and supreme for the rest of time. And the United States is at the forefront of that. Like, we are seeing that that rapacious economic system is coming back to bite us in the form of a genocide, in the form of weaponizing the United States' economic might in sanctions regimes, with tariffs, what have you, to wreak havoc upon these other countries. You need to have a broader balance of power, both economically and with nation states throughout the globe, unfortunately, because the United States as a hegemon has shown we are incapable of being the world police without, you know, doing things like genocide. And yeah, I mean, like, so it's coming back to bite Europe here.

They were complicit in the genocide in Gaza, but Carney is even recognizing here like, we have held on to these contradictions for too long. And that's the implicit kind of, I think, story beneath it all. And we'll talk more about this as the week goes on, but, you know, I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing, you know, both from the perspective of the world. And certainly in the context of the United States, which is not to say that it can't go sideways. because we still have the largest military by exponentially the rest of the world. And we have a fascist in the White House and a fascist regime. So, you know, things might work out in 10, 15, 20 years.

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We are back. Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland on the Majority Report. A pleasure to welcome back to the program, Adam Federman, reporting fellow with type investigations recipient of a 2020 Fetisov Award for your environmental reporting. And Adam, you were last on the program on November 30th, 2023 with Emma, talking about Greenland. And I, you know, I had forgotten that this was something that Trump had been talking about back then and was reminded only because Emma had done that interview with you. And today he announced no military action. I'm not sure if we should believe him or not.

But what, like, what's going on here? Is it Ron louder? Is it, I mean, what, like, what? It's hard to keep up with this story. I mean, I was honestly relieved to hear him say that he was going to rule out the use of military force. Although he also confused Greenland and Iceland repeatedly, which doesn't exactly inspire confidence in. whatever the administration is thinking. Maybe he's ruling out military force for Iceland,

but it's still a table of Greenland. Or I was thinking maybe we could give him ICE, NATO could give him Iceland, and he'll be happy with that, and the Greenland issue will be settled. We'll see. So Trump's thinking, or his approach to Greenland, has certainly taken on new life in this second term.

I mean, in 2019, he floated the idea of buying Greenland, which was laughed at. The Danish Prime Minister called it absurd. No one really took it seriously. And it was essentially forgotten about. I mean, I did my story on Greenland and traveled there in 2023. So this is during the Biden administration. The United States was using all kinds of soft power tools

to advance its interest in Greenland, including potentially investing in some mining operations and keeping China out you know, there was talk of expanding the U.S. military base in Petufik. They renamed the base as a way of kind of acknowledging Inuit land claims to the region. So it seemed like the United States was essentially getting what it wanted. And when Trump came back into office, I would argue that the table was set in a way that it never has been for the United States to essentially capitalize on this relationship

and Greenland's desire to become independent of Denmark. Now, in the last year, I think Trump has essentially destroyed those advantages. Greenland and Denmark have, if anything, gotten closer, and we're now in the middle of this completely unpredictable crisis. I mean, and we're going to touch on this part later. but it this seems the the fact that trump was this serious about it seems to have basically to the extent that there was any vestige of the EU or our allies saying like you know everybody has a bad day you know we'll give the United States a mulligan on the first term of

Trump and it was still up in the air on the second but it really does feel like this has been the final sort of like blow, the nail in the coffin that has basically said, like, we can't trust these people anymore. Yeah, it is kind of hard to imagine how we dig ourselves out of this hole. I think even in December, 24, before Trump was inaugurated, and he made his first remarks about wanting to acquire Greenland. And then you'll probably remember that shortly after that, he dispatched Don Jr., and Charlie.

Kirk and a couple of other folks to nuke and they handed out, you know, $100 bills to people on the street and they had lunch at some fancy restaurant with a bunch of locals wearing MAGA hats. And even after that, people were still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. They were like, this is crazy, you know, but maybe it's a little bit tongue in cheek. We don't really know how serious you are. And at that point, I mean, I think the jury was out. It was unclear what the administration's policy was going to be. He was talking about, you know, reclaiming the Panama Canal, making Canada the 51st state.

It was like, where does this all fit in? What's serious? What is just complete BS? Obviously, he's just continued to double down on taking Greenland. And I think perhaps more notable is the fact that top advisors like Stephen Miller and J.D. Vance have also repeated Trump's claims, which I I should just note this idea that Russia and China have ships and are sort of circling Greenland and pose some imminent security threat is completely untrue. In my opinion, it's like claiming Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Mainstream media has finally begun to push back and sort of debunk this claim that Trump, Vance, and others have made with zero intelligence to back it up. Danish Greenlandic officials have rebutted this notion. But this is sort of their drumbeat to war or whatever you want to call it. Can you expand a little bit on, though, the geopolitical importance of Greenland? Part of what we spoke about back in 2023 about your piece was, you know, you kind of tracing this back to the 1950s and some of these kind of, post-World War II agreements and how it was central in the Cold War. But like, you know, we know that

they're lying about this as a pretext, but what's the motive behind the lie is the question. Yeah, I mean, Greenland has always been strategically significant in the Arctic. I mean, during the Cold War, the threat of Soviet missiles coming over, you know, the pole to North America, that was sort of the shortest route. And so having the space base, as they now call it, The lone remaining U.S. military installation in Greenland is essentially a series of radars that are there to track missiles that may be coming from wherever, you know, Russia. And so Greenland has remained strategically important. Obviously, after the end of the Cold War, things changed, and U.S. investment in Arctic security diminished. and Arctic nations through an international governing body called the Arctic Council

were managing things quite well and sort of cooperating with one another. Those relations have deteriorated badly, especially in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. And as we saw not only with Trump during his first term, but then with Biden, And, you know, shoring up sort of U.S. assets and investment in Greenland has become increasingly important. And we've always worked closely with Denmark, oftentimes without including Greenland to kind of get what we've wanted. And, you know, that history is something that I wrote about in that in these times story. And it's something that I think Americans are unfamiliar with, and it's certainly something that American leaders never really acknowledge.

Do you have a favorite theory, though, as to why Trump has this, what seems to be now real legitimate? I mean, up until today, I thought we were going to send 1,500 troops and just be like, okay, now what are you going to do about it, Denmark? Nothing. You're not going to do anything about it, and we're just going to have it, and we'll send you a check. And apparently that's not going to happen, hopefully. but from a strategic standpoint, the U.S. had, like you said, already made sort of like we, we were on a trajectory to have only more closely aligned and more relationship with Greenland, more access to whatever we wanted in terms of like strategic necessities. That's been out the door. I'm agnostic on that personally, but that's the dynamic.

What is it that he thinks he's doing? Is this part of a larger Donroe doctrine or what? I think that does fit into it, this idea of hemispheric defense. However, the whole in that general argument is essentially what you just pointed to, which is that we have an agreement with Denmark that goes back to 1951 that essentially gives us free reign to expand our military presence in Greenland. And Greenlandic leaders and Danish leaders have said the door is open. Not only are we open for business in terms of economic investment,

but you can expand your military presence here, whether that's at the base that we already have or with installations on the East Coast to monitor Russian submarines, et cetera. So I keep coming back to this interview that Trump did with Susan Glasser and Peter Baker for their book that was published a few years ago in which he basically said he saw Greenland as just a huge piece of real estate. It's big. It's there. He thinks he can have it. It's pretty basic. I mean, it's primitive, it's childish, and it's how Donald Trump operates. I don't know how much more complicated it is. I mean, there are many strategic reasons why Greenland is important in the Arctic. But the manner in which this administration is going about achieving those ends has the potential to undermine our security. security, Canadian security, North American security in the region. I mean, that's, I think, a simple fact. But I mean, Trump's childishness, I think, in the way he's approaching this, it's a point well taken. But I am very interested in like, and it seems like this is a theme across Trump and foreign policy.

He has this impulse to be the big conqueror to make his legacy in this way. But there are always people pushing him in a certain direction based on financial interests. So, you know, there was a piece in the Quincy Institute from last week kind of outlining, or there was a section of it, talking a little bit about this guy that pay, I can't read my own handwriting per usual, but it's one of the PayPal co-founders. Yeah, probably Ken Howary, I would imagine. Ken Howry, there you go. So Trump appointed this guy Ken Howary to be the ambassador to Denmark, which seems significant in this situation. We've talked to Gil Duran on the show before about the concept of the network state and how Peter Thiel and these other kind of tech billionaires envision the idea of creating a purely privatized state that they would control. Greenland having some of the resources that they want, it being a population of, you know, under 60,000 mostly indigenous people. That's, they're probably thinking like easy pickings.

I mean, what's your feeling about that theory? I think there's some credence to it. I think the big sticking point, Greenland, is that it's, you know, 80% of it is covered in ice. You know, good luck setting up your utopian network state in a part of the world that is not very easy to live in. I do think, though, on a more serious note, that there is a fair bit of speculation and interest in, you know, establishing data centers, for example, in Greenland because of the cold climate. and investing in some of the other resources that the country has. I think that, you know, Howard, he was ambassador, I believe, to Sweden during Trump's first administration. I don't know how much power and influence he has.

I was actually quite surprised to see his first sort of informal press conference in Copenhagen and after he was confirmed, and a journalist asked him a very basic question about, you know, what did he have to say to the people of Greenland? And he looked like a deer in the headlights, as if the question hadn't occurred to him, which I thought was somewhat bewildering. So I don't really know who's running point on Greenland in this administration.

I think with Venezuela, for example, it was clear that Rubio's fingerprints were all over that operation and kind of the ideological motivations behind removing Maduro, et cetera, but when it comes to Greenland, I mean, Rubio has been oddly silent. It seems to me on this. I don't, I don't know who is in Trump's ear. Is it Stephen Miller? The Guardian.

The Guardian reported, I think it was a couple of weeks ago, that it was a function of Ron Louder. The cosmetics guy who was a longtime friend of Trump back in the first term, said, we should, we should, we should buy Greenland. And that was basically, then he just got obsessed with it. And then I would imagine there's others who might say like, yeah, sure. Like, I mean, it seems like, I mean, this is so hard to sort of like wrap one's brain around that the president functions like a literally like a poorly behaved six year old. Like literally.

but it's quite conceivable that he just had this idea in his head. Everybody around him thought it was so far-fetched that they all just humored him. And it just is like a snowballed because nobody wants to go like actually a boss. I wasn't really that serious about it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think louder put the worm in his ear probably. And then they did have a meeting with this guy named Greg Barnes,

who is an Australian mining geologist. And he has advanced this rare earth metals mine in Southern Greenland. which is now part owned by a U.S. company called Critical Metals Corp. And actually, Howard Lutnik's firm has a stake in that company. And there are some... So there are some financial connections that have not gotten a lot of attention. Steve Feinberg at the Pentagon, number two, is CEO and founder of a company called Cerberus.

They may not have direct investments in Greenland, but they have done some mining projects in northern Canada and are interested in this sort of strategic nexus. And there are other sort of fringe figures with personal connections and or interest in sort of developing some of the strategic interests in Greenland. So I would imagine that they perhaps are having some influence on Trump as well. So, and I imagine that Trump's announcement today was a direct function of like the treasury market just sort of like, just collapsing on some level. Interest rates had to shoot up because everybody was like, and I think, again, Greenland is more sort of like the flag that denotes the sort of turning, the decision point that the rest of the world is made of like, we're done, we're out now, regardless of what happens with Greenland. what do you think happens? I mean, this is an impossible question to ask you, but what do you think happens next?

I mean, does he just sort of like, okay, they didn't want to buy it, they didn't want to sell it? And so I'm done. I'll move on to Iceland or I don't know. That's the question everyone's asking. And I don't think he moves on. There's no way he moves on.

He has dug his heels in. And I think the hard part is next. I mean, they've talked about establishing this working group. after the meeting with, you know, Vance, Rubio, and the Danish and Greenlandic representatives who will be on that group? And how do you bridge this gap

between Trump wanting outright ownership and Greenland clearly refusing to go down that path? I'm not sure there is a middle ground, and if there isn't, you know, what does Trump do if he's sort of backed into this corner? I think the middle ground is, let's form a working group, committee and just wait until

Trump can't get his medication. And give him an award. Exactly. Yeah. I don't know. Adam Fetterman, a reporting fellow

with type investigations, recipient of that 2020 Fetis of award. The Russian oligarchs. There you go. We'll put a link to your piece in our YouTube and podcast description. Thanks so much for your time today.

I really appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye. All right, folks. We're going to take quick break when we come back. Representative Aisha Gomez representing District 62A in the Minnesota House of Representatives from the occupied state of Minnesota in this country. We'll be right back.

We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland on the majority report. It is a pleasure to welcome to the program, Representative Aisha Gomez. She is the representative for District 62A. in the Minnesota House of Representatives. And Aisha, you were just telling us that this is the, you represent South Minneapolis. Yeah, Sam and Emma, thanks so much for having me. So my district is kind of the heart of the south side of Minneapolis.

We've been heavily impacted, of course, by the incursion of, you know, armed secret ICE police in our community. My constituent, Nicole Good, was murdered by, ICE agents a couple of weeks ago in my district. We also, you know, again, right around the corner from George Floyd Square, where we were the epicenter of that kind of global event five years ago as well. So thanks for having me. Of course. And just give us a sense of what it's been like over the past. I guess it's now like three weeks, three weeks of this sort of invasion. I don't know what else really to call it. I mean, I don't know what the numbers are up now. It's at least

2,000 ice troopers, as Bovino would call them, but at the very least it's 2000 could be closer at 2,500 by now. Just give us a sense of like what the on the ground, like, how aware of the presence can they're there. Yeah. So, you know, again, as you said, like there's so little transparency about this incursion, this invasion by masked, unaccountable, heavily armed, you know, kidded out sometimes in full military garb for secret police force in our community. So we don't even know how many of them there are. What I can tell you is just that our, my community is just being impacted in numerous ways by what's going on on the ground.

Of course, we see scenes of brutality and violence playing out over and over again day after day, many times a day. Right now, as we speak, Greg Bovino is in my district. He was spotted there. He has a convoy of four, five, six SUVs with three or four agents in each of them. You know, you can be just like a regular person going about your life trying to take kids to school, trying to go to work or go get, you know, a cup of coffee or something or going to the grocery store. And you encounter scenes of just impossible to imagine kind of things unfolding on the streets. I was like, it was last week, time's a little tough, but it was last week.

as you may know, Greg Bovino and his goons after they murdered my constituent, they went to a high school and at dismissal time Roosevelt High School and they used chemical munitions on students, parents, and educators as school was dismissing. So school closed in Minnesota for the Thursday and Friday after they killed, or in Minneapolis, excuse me, after they killed Renee Good. And so then on Monday, Monday, you know, the next week, schools were back in. And so many of us were just kind of being at schools because they had unfortunately, along with hospitals and other places that we used to be

able to view as sanctuary spaces in our community as places that were safe for families and children to exist at, they have become a target of these forces. And so I'm there welcoming the kids to school. And I hear this huge commotion. I hear. their whistles and horns. And that is how our community are protecting ourselves. It's just by gathering, making a crowd, making noise, bringing attention to what they want to have happen in the dark. And I go running over there and, you know, they had arrested, you know, four immigrant people,

including two children. and a woman, a disabled woman, was trying to go to a doctor's appointment. They cut her seatbelt. They forced her door open. As I got there, they were carrying her by her four limbs. You know, I mean, I don't know, like a carcass of an animal, like a dangerous prisoner who's going to physically attack the person who's trying to restrain them. you know, she just told her story about being at Whipple, being denied, you know, medical attention.

And so this is happening. I saw them take another observer down and, you know, kind of crush his face into the concrete, lift him again by his four limbs like an animal. They were using chemical munitions. I was maced. They used tear gas against us in a residential neighborhood, okay? This is like people just live here. And I got to tell you what happened in the midst of all of this, in the midst of all this chaos,

dozens of federal agents using chemical munitions on just like regular people, a munition that's banned by the Geneva Convention for Use in Warfare. And I see this man approaching from across the street. And he has a toddler in his arms. Like the kid must have been around 18 months to two years old. and and I knew after he moved that he was going to his apartment across the street. But just this scene, right, of this completely terrified man with a completely terrified toddler in a residential neighborhood in an American city,

rushing across the street with his jacket wrapped around his baby through clouds of tear gas, being used by masked unaccountable federal agents. I mean, this is what's happening on the streets of Minneapolis. What, and I think we actually showed the video of both that woman and the man that you referred to. There's two sort of areas that I'm really interested in. I think it would be helpful for people outside of Minnesota and Minneapolis because this is not going to end there. One is sort of like best practices in terms of the community organizing. But I'm particularly interested in like what is the state attempting to do or doing or what do you think they should be doing that they're not doing in terms of like statutorily in terms of the committee hearings?

I don't know. Like what is what is in play on a state level? Yeah. So I really especially appreciate your first question, Sam. because like it feels like Minneapolis is being used as a testing ground, both in the brutality of the tactics. And we have seen, since they killed Renee Good, we have seen such an acceleration in the brutality and illegality of the tactics that are used against observers, you know, violating people's civil rights with just absolute impunity. using Renee Good as an example and a threat. Like there are numerous videos of ICE agents saying,

didn't you see what happened? Didn't you see what we did? Haven't you learned your lesson? Right. The implication being this could be any of you, and it could have been any of us. But I mentioned to you earlier that, you know, Bovino and his shock troops

went from the Cs. of the extrajudicial execution of Renee Good in the street to a high school to gas kids. And Mike's constituents were also on that scene in the dozens. And dozens and hundreds of us left that scene and we went out and we did exactly what Renee was doing and her wife were doing exactly the thing that got her killed. And so at the same time that this moment in Minneapolis is a warning to the country. It's like it's a it's a red alert for our democracy and for like the basic foundational, aspirational ideas that that founded this country, the idea that there's equal

protection under the law, the idea of the constitution. At the same time that that's what we're facing, we're also seeing what the response to authoritarianism on the march has to be. and that's like the first three words we the people that's us coming together in our communities and taking care of each other and doing so courageously and knowing that like you know rene good's widow said we they had guns and we have whistles right we are we're coming together we're coming together to respond every single time that ice agents are on our streets we want dozens and hundreds of people there making noise, alerting our neighbors as to their presence. And we need to take care of each other in these times. And that's actually what's true about us as

humans. They want us to be looking at each other with suspicion. They want us to be in our houses. They want us to be terrified. But what the communities in Minneapolis and across the state, this is not just happening in Minneapolis. It's a less told story, but this is happening in the suburbs and the excerpts and rural areas and everywhere in our state right now this invasion is happening. And everywhere in our state communities are organizing and they're coming together and they're making sure that kids get to school, food gets delivered to people's houses and are showing an alternative vision of reality of that destructive, nasty kind of vision of humanity that's being presented to us. Like what is actually true about us as humans is that we exist in

community and we are we have what we need to take care of each other and so communities across the country you can't wait until these until they come to your doorstep like you have to start organizing now um and so that's yeah uh yeah representative gomez can you talk a little bit about when you're saying the communities coming together um where are the local police in this uh what have your constituents been saying about the local police response and their ability or lack they're of to protect them from ICE, what should people know if they're in Minneapolis or no people in the area about local police response? Yeah, I mean, I think that there's a lot of frustration, I would say, on my constituents are

frustrated, right? Because what we're seeing is just massive violations of the law every day all the time from obviously these really you know i mean one of them killed somebody in the street they're using violence they're destroying people's property they're breaking windows they're violently arresting people they're they're rolling through red lights they're driving 60 miles an hour down a side street they're driving the wrong way on a run on a one way i mean they're just acting with complete reckless disregard for public safety so to hear any national person say this is about public safety is like such a joke and a farce to those of us existing under this occupation.

You know, and so I think that there is, you know, there's a lot of frustration. Also, we have 600 cops and there's 3,000 of these guys here. Right. We, like, it is, I don't know what I would do if I were in charge of the cops right now, to be totally honest with you. I mean, the fact of the matter is that, like, there's no local law enforcement around the country that's arrested. one of these guys. And I mean, somebody should probably do it at some point, but we don't know what's

going to happen when that happens. And there is a very real sense here. I mean, you know, they subpoenaed our governor and our mayor and our attorney general and our county attorney. They're using all, they have cut off federal funding to needy families in Minnesota as retaliation. Right. So there's this real feeling that we're kind of like we're balancing on a razor's edge. And, you know, and I think it is, Unfortunately, you know, and you talked to you talk to me about about or asked about state law, state law and response. And, you know, like I'm a, I'm somebody who I've devoted my life to, you know, using the tool of state policy to improve people's lives. I'm the chair of the tax committee. I love this stuff. I get deep in the in the nerdy details, right, of state level tax policy. And I believe it's a powerful tool to improve. the material conditions for working people in this country. But the fact of the matter is that we can, we have to be clear-eyed about the truth, which is that state and local policy are not the tool with which to respond to an authoritarian federal regime. Those tools are inadequate. I wish they

weren't. Right. Because I believe deeply in their power. But we, you know, but honestly, like, that's why I, I mean, I'm at my, I'm at the capital right now. I haven't been here in a month. I think. I've been in my neighborhood. I've been with my neighbors in the streets because I know that the way that we respond is with community. Unfortunately, like our elected leaders, we want them to do everything that they possibly can and we are working on a lot of policy, but we have to be real about this moment. You know, it's, it goes beyond our ability to to regulate and, you know, enforce Minnesota state statute. I wish that wasn't the case, but I think that's where we're at.

Speaking of which, the, we are two days away for what has been, for, I don't know, for lack a better term, a general strike that has been called now. I think there's at least a dozen, maybe more unions have signed on to this as many. if not more community groups have also signed on to this. Give me your sense of how widespread this will be. And like what is the sense of this in the community? Yeah. So Friday is a day of truth and freedom.

We're asking people not to shop, not to go to work, not to go to school if it's possible for them. you know, I think that like I haven't, there's an elder in our community, his name's Ricardo Levin's Morales, and he always reminds us that we are, we're part of a lineage. There have always been people like us who have stood up in times of crisis in our country, in times when, you know, oppression, and oppressive systems have kind of crushed people. And there are many, many people before us who've engaged in these kinds of tactics

like general strike and being in the streets and protecting neighbors and forming community patrols. These aren't new ideas or new tactics. And we're just like one in a long string of fighters for freedom and justice in our country. And so, you know, we would, we know that this that the idea of a general strike and you know boycotts all kinds of different tactics have been employed by you know Americans of conscience in times of crisis and so we're asking

you know we're asking minnesotans to to participate we have hundreds of organizations and unions hundreds of businesses that are closing and so you know we invite everyone to be a part of it And I just, you know, if there are people listening from Minneapolis in particular, you know, there are community defense kind of formations in every corner of our city. Like I said, they murdered Renee Good in the street and then they wanted us to go back inside. But what we have seen since then is tens of thousands of people organizing in their local communities. If you're not linked up with your local organization yet, go to defend. 612 on Instagram or the internet and you can connect with your neighbors who are organizing there. And across the state, it's like, you know, and across the country, really, like, neighbors just

need to be coming together. That's how we answer this threat. Is there any, obviously, number one job is to do what you're talking about. Is there anybody compiling any of these best practices for the sake of, you know, I don't know if it's Lewiston, Maine is next, or Portland or, you know, Boston or wherever it's going to be. But is there any resource that we should know about to point people to? Or, I mean, obviously, it's hard to be fighting and sort of recording it for other people to be fighting at the same time. But if that exists, I would love to know about it. Yeah, I mean, like, fortunately for us, unfortunately for all of us, we are not the first or the last city to be in this position. And so, you know, we have been helped out immensely by community defense alignments in Chicago and Los Angeles and Washington, D.C., who have faced, you know, very similar situations to what Minneapolis is in before us.

And so they've taught us a lot, you know, on that, you know, on that. at Defend the 612 website, there are resources for communities, sort of like best practices, how to connect yourselves and organize yourselves into these community defense areas. And, you know, Protect Rogers Park is an organization in Chicago that has just been so generous in and taught us a lot about how to respond to these times. And they have tons of resources on their websites. There are LA and Free D.C. is another kind of source of information for, you know, folks who are kind of looking at looking and seeing and maybe anticipating ICE coming to them next. So that's another beautiful thing that's happening is like, you know, we're, we're

sharing information and sharing hopeful stories across the country between, people who are standing up in this way. And when the next city is invaded like this, we will be there to support them and to help share the things that we've learned so that we can continue to have a nimble response to this invasion. All right, well, we're going to,

we will link to defend 612.com. so the folks can at least start off there. And is there anything else you think that we should know at this point? I mean, obviously, you know, we've dedicated a decent amount of time to sort of watching what's going on there because it's obviously both horrific and a bellwether and maybe also a foreshadowing of other places. But if there's anything else you think that we should know at this point, what might that be? Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's anything new from what I said, but, you know, these are dire times. This is a very serious moment for our country.

We are being asked what we will accept as people, what we will accept as a country. And it's incredibly important that we all are very clear about the threat and also about the answer. And, you know, I can just say, like, these are such hard times for my community and for my city. And I've never been so proud to be from this community and this city and this state. And, you know, this is one of those moments that, like, your grandkids are going to be like, if you were in Minneapolis in January, 2026, like, what were you doing? And, you know, and that moment may come for your city, too. and we all have to have an answer for that.

And so I just really appreciate you lifting up what's happening here because it feels a little bit like, do people realize like how dire it is here? And so thank you so much for using your platform to invite me on and to just cover this story and for your advocacy. Thanks so much for having me. Representative Vichie Gomez, representing District 62A

in the Minnesota House of Representatives, Thanks so much for your time and the work you're doing there. And good luck. We're paying attention and hopefully, you know, can help in any way we can. But thank you. Thanks for what you're doing there. And thanks for your time today. Thank you.

Thank you. All right, folks. We're going to take a break. Head into the fun half. Wee. I think it's good. It'll be wacky. I have a fun clip about how AI is using up all the fresh water in the world.

That's the fun part. Well, we do. I mean, we have one or two fun clips. We carried over one from yesterday. It's like Gallo's fun. No, there's two or three fun. Well. Isn't there really?

Do we have anything that's not Gallo's humor? The last one is fun. way way at the end of the 32 clips that we have is the funny one you know what I'm referring to oh about how someone was wrong about fascism it's also about fascism being here and confirmed so the the most hilarious thing we have is just how someone didn't see the fascism coming and how it's undeniable now whoopsy so for people that may want a little peek behind the curtain The whole dynamic in the office is me trying to be positive about something. A piece of media that I liked.

A movie, an athlete, and whoever it is, it doesn't matter. It could be Sam. It could be Brian. It could be mad. Telling me why I'm wrong. Yeah. And to be enthusiastic, it's actually blah, blah, blah. And as I was telling my therapist yesterday, I need some more female energy in my life.

I legitimately said guilty yesterday because I watched a little bit of your light. minish when we were talking about a particular musician and I uh who wasn't it doesn't matter I don't want to I don't want to bring everybody in on okay but I just I legitimately thought about it oh John Mayer my pillow I was like who cares if you don't like him I think you have to say something you don't need to tell Emma that pretend you think he's a great blues guitar just so you know it wore on me I yeah well I'd like to think it's the purity of my spirit I'm so red. See ya.

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Yeah, over on Left Reckoning on Tuesday, David Griscom and I had a couple of guests, Alex Pernel and Judith of a Jewish Voice for Peace, talking about James Taylorico, who I'm a fan of his natural political talent. He's a great communicator. And the problem is when you are able to message so well on, say, Christian nationalism or charter schools, it becomes clear when you're pulling certain punches on, say, the question. of Israel and Palestine. So we went at length into his statement of what he believes on that subject, and it is not a very satisfactory document from my perspective and everybody on my shows. And so check that out if you're interested in that. I still would probably put him as getting my vote for the primary down there. But look, he's got a talent and he should use it to be a leader on these issues. It's odd because he had shown, like, you know, he's done very

empathetic speeches about Gaza, but it gets, it's like when it gets down to brass tax about what he actually advocates for, the defensive weapons. And you don't want to make the Adelson thing more salient. Like, I am willing to believe it was about gambling things, but crypto and gambling. But look, people are going to have that question. And it is a fair one to ask if you're going to start saying, well, Hamas and Basin needs to be dismantle. Well, is that a, that's a call for end to a ceasefire. Because how do you dismantle something like that? Or if you say, well, I support, quote, unquote, defensive weapons, which he's not the first person to use that phrasing. Well, it's just, I mean, we'll go into the fun half, but just a quick point on this,

like, we need more national progressive Democrats to start talking about Israel's genocide in a way that matches the reality on the ground. I think that's a big, big problem. I said this months ago when I went on Pod Save America trying to make a plea for that, because the vacuum is being left. And so, like, you can have all of these, you know, Zionists smearing people because they don't use the correct language or saying, like, they are advocating for this. You don't know that what, like, can national progressive Democrats start talking about one Democratic state? Can they start talking about Israel more realistically? I think that would help things. But anyway.

Problem is a lot of their colleagues are, have blood on their hands. I think that's part of it. But, but enough. Like, I mean, if we're having freaking, what's his name, David Pluff, not naming Hakeem, Jeffries, and Schumer in his op-ed, but saying that Democrats should run against leadership, if they were, want to win, uh, I mean, you know,

why not throw some of your genocide colleagues under the bus? I would love that. I mean, I, and I will just say this too. I hope people understand that, um,

obviously given the opportunity to vote for a Democrat over the Republican in the, uh, in Texas. Easy. And the, um, expectations of any,

uh, Democrat, uh, representing Texas at, at this juncture in time is, you know, would be on the low end of the spectrum of what we expect of a Democrat from there. It's not like representing New Jersey, Cory Booker, or New York, Chuck Schumer, Kristen Gillibrand.

But it's important to maintain some markers as you're assessing these candidates. So, I mean, hopefully that doesn't have to be said, but of course it does. Speaking of Cory Booker, maybe I do have an addition for the fun half that it's not that fun, but we do get. As a guy who is focusing so much of my effort on ending human suffering on the planet Earth. It's so self-aggrandizing and so, so unearned. It's, I honestly. just I'm trying to think of what I would have to be doing in life to be able to say those words without laughing. Generally.

Like in the middle of it. I'm trying to end to human suffering on planet earth like in a relationship. Honestly, I have said those words, but it has been totally sarcastically like, you're really asking me to wash my dish? Do you understand that I'm trying to save the planet? Take the trash out right now? Like it's literally the way you justify not getting off the couch and getting someone else to get you the popsicle in the fridge or whatever it is. Anyway. See in the fun half.

Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now. And I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better. months from now than it is three months from now. But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts.

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