The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3566 - In the Wake of Another ICE Killing w/ Wali Khan

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Welcome back to the Majority Report On today's program: Border agents have executed another American citizen in Minnesota, Alex Peretti, a 37-year-old VA nurse. Peretti was murdered while help...ing a woman that had been shoved to the ground by a fed. Wali Khan, a multimedia journalist who covers state violence joins the program to provide updates on his experiences on the ground in Minneapolis-St. Paul. On Friday, thousands of people poured into the streets on the Twin Cities to participate in a historical general strike. In the Fun Half: JB Pritzker sends warning to DHS leadership and line officers that accountability will come when this administration is finished. Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) says he cannot and will not vote for one more cent for ICE / CBP. A Minnesota GOP Gubernatorial candidate drops out of the race after the murder of Peretti. Which is interesting since he was providing legal counsel to Jonathan Ross, the fed that murdered Renee Good. Tom Suozzi posts a mea culpa tweet less than a week after voting to provide more funding for DHS. An immigration attorney has his client visits cancelled as an uprising starts in the Dilley Family Detention Center in Dilley, Texas. When asked by a reporter about the video shows that Alex Peretti did not ever brandish his weapon, Greg Bovino folds and cuts the press conference short. Donald Trump takes to Truth Social to say he had a good talk with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and that he is sending Tom Homan to Minneapolis. The hosts of the Pivot Podcast call for an economic strike, saying that Trump does not respond to outrage, but he does respond to the market. All that and more To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: DELETEME:  Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/MAJORITY and use promo code MAJORITY at checkout. NUTRAFOL: Get $10 off your first month's subscription + free shipping at Nutrafol.com when you use promo code TMR10 SUNSET LAKE: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com  Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to a free version of the Majority Report. Support this show at join the Majority Report.com and get an extra hour of content daily. It is Monday. January 26, 2006. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America. Downtown Brooklyn, USA.
Starting point is 00:00:39 On the program today, Wally Khan, multimedia reporter based in New York, covering state violence and working class America, has been reporting from Minneapolis. Also on the program today, VA ICU nurse Alex Pready shot dead by federal goons in Minneapolis on Saturday morning. Shooting takes place a day after.
Starting point is 00:01:12 After over 50,000 Minnesotans hit the streets, thousands more joined the strike over the ICE invasion there. Democrats finally to take a stand on funding ICE in this upcoming budget vote, some Republicans, a few, not many, getting wobbly knees. but in the Senate, Thune still insists on a full government funding vote, including DHS funding. Pam Bondi, meanwhile, says ICE will leave Minnesota if the state hands over sensitive voter roll information. This is how they're determining where they're going. Look at that list of 20 states that have refused to hand over this information, and things will start being clear.
Starting point is 00:02:12 clear. DoJ slashes funding and training for youth subjects of sex crimes, or I should say, for investigating of sex crimes against children. Got to save money somewhere. 800,000 without power in the wake of Winterstorm Fern. New York State, on the verge of joining the redistricting war. FBI agent who tried investigating Renee Goods killing resigns. Immigrant detainees protest inside a Texas camp that is imprisoning a five-year-old. And Moderna is curbing investment in vaccine trials because of U.S. anti-vax sentiment.
Starting point is 00:03:05 All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome, folks. definitely not Sunday Monday Monday Emma Viglin Sam Cedar here obviously over the weekend
Starting point is 00:03:21 more I mean the ongoing the ICE violence has been ongoing but just a another explicit
Starting point is 00:03:33 act of authoritarianism of violence indicating that the mission of these federal immigration raids and invasions of cities are not a function of public safety whatsoever. I don't know if we're going to play the video of the shooting as we go on in the program. Maybe we will.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But I imagine everyone has seen the different angles. There's no forensic debate about anything. There really isn't. It happened at 9 a.m. The first video that came out was from a local Minneapolis paper. That just happened to be on Twitter at 9 a.m. So watch this thing unfold. The first video was from across the street where you couldn't get a clear notion of what had taken place.
Starting point is 00:04:36 within hours, DropSight acquired the video from the woman in pink or red, who people could see in the first videos on the other side of the scrum, as it were, videotaping. And then as it gets over the course of the day, very quickly, and this is important because Christy Noam was out there lying, like full-on, line, but by the time she got up in front of that podium to lie, there had been so many videotapes
Starting point is 00:05:12 circulating, comparing the angles that before she opened her mouth, the narrative was quite clear what happened. Preti was in the neighborhood. They talk about him as if he was a protester. He was not protesting. This was not a protest. There was about a dozen people, I think people in the community, like this is a residential street who came out because of ICE. And he was one of at least, you could see at least a half a dozen people who are videotaping this.
Starting point is 00:05:56 He was standing in the street to get a better view of sight of what ICE was doing. he was also sort of directing cars past him because they had also like nobody was clear what was going on just like uh people driving the uh ice people uh goons have decided they don't like people videotaping them came over to shove uh the ice guy shoved a woman who was videotaping and flattened her onto the ground she did she had both her hands on the camera she there was no it was not a question of a threat there was no activity except for cross street. But Pretti was also filming. Like when we're saying, like, just to bring back to the overarching theme, they are terrified
Starting point is 00:06:45 of having accountability. They can't get ahead of the story. Like, you know, there's the killing of that man. I'm blanking on his name. Keith Porter. Keith Porter by ICE. And there's no video of it so they can characterize it however they want. But the reason they brutalized Prattie and the reason they brutalized the woman in that video was
Starting point is 00:07:02 because they were filming them. So the ICE agent shoves. the woman down onto the ground. Predi goes to the woman to try and help her up. The ice agent then pepper sprays both of them in the face. And Preddy is attempting to protect the woman. And the ice agent grabs his arm, starts to spin him. Other ice agents see that this agent has basically tackled now, Prattie.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So at one point you have like five or six guys on top of him. they have his arm secured one of the ice agents sees that he has a weapon a holstered weapon he pulls the weapon he says something to the effect of like gun or i got his gun the only real question at this point and certainly ice has not made this uh um allegation is that as the guy pulls out, I think it was a SIG 30, was the handgun that Preddy was licensed to carry. There are some people who speculated that that gun went off by accident. And that inspired the other ICE officer who had already drawn his weapon because he heard the word gunned. I mean, this is, you know, conjecture a little bit, but just from the video, who knows what?
Starting point is 00:08:31 what was in the minds of them. And he started to fire. And he fired at a minimum six shots. Right. And there's no dispute about whether or not Prady had his hand on the weapon. The question is when, if that weapon, if that gun was discharged by, by accident when it was pulled off of him, or if the shots were fired and there was no firing from that weaponry by the ICE officer that took it off of him. Either way, you'll see, when you see the video, of course, I think a lot of people have at this point. He fires multiple rounds into his back. You know, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, predy was a nurse caring for his community, helping a woman. And these wannabe masculine agents shoot a guy, these cowards shot him in the back as he was trying to help a woman on the street. And to your point about like, oh, this wasn't a protest. They keep
Starting point is 00:09:23 calling everything in operation. You know, prety had, we don't know exactly why he was there. But when you're occupying a city, yeah, everything is a part of your so-called law enforcement operation because you're pulling people out of their cars and terrorizing them on the streets. So anyone that chooses to help apparently is interfering with a law enforcement operation. This is, this is as fascist and authoritarian as it gets. The, and so once that, that, once they shoot him and seven, seven six or seven times it's unclear um the uh let's i guess we could play this video from after the fact this would be number four um you will see that one agent is on the ground searching pretty um basically uh yelling where's the gun
Starting point is 00:10:24 assuming that there was a gun there. And then, according to the affidavit of a 29-year-old medical, I think student or internist, they would not let that person go and examine Predi until they showed their license, which of course they don't have their doctor's license on it. And went there and saw that they were not providing any medical assistance to him whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:11:02 All they were doing is counting the bullet holes. They didn't want him to live. Well, not only that, but understand what they were doing. They were trying to manufacture a story so they could get their story straight. This was all about sort of like retconning this situation and trying to figure out how they were going to get out of it. Good. All right. So you hear him yelling. Where's the gun? Where's the gun?
Starting point is 00:11:39 And then the other ICE agent who had already taken the gun before the shooting started. Right. Now, the point of it being that he was holstered, that the gun was holstered is the way that DHS announced what happened is he brought a gun to a protest and he was armed. The implication being that he was using this gun and waving it in front of. of the DHS people. And so they wanted to create that fiction. But again, the video came out. There were so many videos that came out.
Starting point is 00:12:16 By the time they had announced that, everybody knew it was a lie. I was listening to, I was watching MS now. They had a couple of like, you know, the law enforcement, ex-law enforcement types on who said, you know, it's unclear. you didn't appear to be waving the gun or doing any of this and it's hard for us to trust what DHS doing. The analysis of all this misses the central point is that DHS definitely did not want people videotaping them murdering somebody, but there is no leadership that is telling them to do
Starting point is 00:12:58 anything differently than what they're doing. when Renee Good was shot ice agents and all these federal goons there was basically one of two directives that they could have been given one would have been we've shot somebody we need to back off you need to um
Starting point is 00:13:18 avoid engaging with protests or with people videotaping to the extent that you can do like like really go out of your way to avoid engaging. Or the other one is, double down, tell them that they should have learned a lesson
Starting point is 00:13:40 and do not change anything you're doing. In fact, you know, get out there and make sure that people don't get in your face anymore. Be ready to cover it up faster. And it's quite clear. It's the second. Any talk of like, this is unprofessional, they don't seem to be trained.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I mean, that's all true. But that's besides the point. The point is they are being sent out there to do exactly what they are doing. You can see footage of these guys as they are like masked like a gang, supposedly dealing with protesters. One guy shooting is gun and says this is like call of duty. It's cool. Right. And then said boohoo to people who were crying after they saw Pretti being shot multiple times in the back.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Greg Bovino said. Caitlin Collins of CNN had this statement said that essentially the federal agents that were involved in the shooting because in the killing
Starting point is 00:14:37 there were a bunch of them they were beating them up like a gang, mass gang that these agents are no longer in Minneapolis and have been reassigned to other locations for their safety Bovino had said
Starting point is 00:14:49 now let's be clear they're fleeing state authorities just like Jonathan Ross after he murdered Renee Goose and shot her and killed her, immediately whist out of the state. This is what they're pretending as a law enforcement operation when they're acting like the mafia. Actually, the mafia is probably a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Has more rules. It has more rules. Here's clip number five. You can see an ICE agent's first reaction. Same video. This is just random shooting at people. Tossing in smoke grenades. They were also, there's...
Starting point is 00:15:50 Tear gas. Of them brandishing their weapons in the face of journalists just from yesterday to... It just blows that way. Fucking idiots. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's your, you're complete, like... Okay. Now, here is...
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah, other part, right? Okay. That was... Now, that took place about an hour after the killing. I would say somewhere around 11 a.m. or so. This is, this is the, now this is just after the killing. This is a separate thing. When they said the boo-hoo part.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yes. This is, this is just after. Right. I believe. This is the clapping, guys? Yes, sorry. We have a minute. Okay. This is just after Preddy's been shot.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You can see that guy clapping. there like his like our job is done here play this again we're at the bottom of the screen here and he just turns around like like they're so clear there is there is no threat the guy claps and then just walks and like turns around like we did that it's stunning yeah i guess that wasn't the the other part that i was referring to but i mean you could just take my word for it the we heard after you know rene good was killed uh one of the ICE officers, most likely Jonathan Ross said, you know, effing bitch. And then what we heard on camera after this was boo-hoo because people were upset what they saw in front of their eyes.
Starting point is 00:17:52 It's, we'll cover this later on. But one of the seven Democrats in the House that voted to basically, you know, advance this ICE DHS funding increase. because as we played from Primalah Jopal last week, there was like basically an accounting trick with the last budget. So it doesn't, it looks like you're maintaining funding, but it actually is an increase in funding. And there were seven Democrats that voted to do so. I'll just read their names.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I missed one the other. It was Henry Quayar, who won his primary a few cycles ago against a wonderful progressive Jessica Cisneros by less than a thousand votes. after Jim Clyburn and Nancy Pelosi went down to support him. And he is an anti-abortion pro-ice, anti-trans Democrat, voted to advance that funding. Mary Glucencamp Perez, Jared Golden, Don Davis, Laura Gillen, Vincenta Gonzalez, and Tom Swazi, who is a representative from just a few miles away in Long Island.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And this morning he sent out an email to his voters saying that he failed. quote, I failed to view the DHS funding vote as a referendum on the illegal and immoral conduct of ICE in Minneapolis. That's less than a week ago. So that's how quickly these politics are changing. And too bad, you decide to fund the ICE Gestapo instead of seeing what was right in front of your face. All right. And we'll get, we got, we're going to do a whole thing on the, how this has impacted the funding vote as the show progresses. All right, we're going to take quick break. and when we come back, we'll be talking to Wally Kahn on Minneapolis in the wake of this shooting.
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Starting point is 00:26:11 based in New York covering state violence, working class America. Wally, thanks for joining us and we should just say right up front you got a little bit of a voice issue because of the tear gas as a little going away gift in Minneapolis. What was
Starting point is 00:26:27 the circumstance of that? Well, that was actually now that since that tear gas incident, I've kept safe since then. But it's been like more than eight days where I've had this respiratory problem. But that was at the Whipple Federal Building where ice agents come out in droves and tear gas protesters every hour, actually. And so that night they started pelting tear gas canisters at us and flashbacks. and I think all people were doing was that they were gathering around arriving ice vehicles. And my mask was a little loose. And the density of the tear gas made it, you know, impossible to do the work that I do.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And it was just, it was blinding. And it was really painful. What ostensibly is, I mean, I've seen tear gas in the context of protests that are, I think, like, authorities are afraid, like, oh, there's 10,000 people or 5,000 or 500 people who are coming to try and attack a federal building or a blocking, you know, roads in the middle of a city. Like, what is the context? What would be the value of just firing tear gas at people who are standing out in front of a detention facility? Well, it's interesting because one of the days, some of the protesters doused the entranceway to Whipple with water, because a lot of these ice agents are just like wearing vans and like converse canvas shoes, and they slipped and fallen on their asses so many times. So one of the protest tactics is to pour water all over the entranceway where they come out of.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And I want to reiterate, you know, the ice agents outnumber the number of protesters at Whipple. I mean, on multiple nights, there had to be less than 100 people or less than like 150. And the ice agents would come out from their cars where they were warming up in the parking lot and put suit up, come out. And that day when they were pouring water, they got pissed. I mean, they came out, tear gassed a bunch of people, pepper sprayed, pepper bald people, which is solidified pepper spray, less leaf. that are put in paintball guns and shot out at, you know, on people. And actually, there have been a couple of blindings out of L.A. recently related to Pepperball. But, yeah, I mean, their justification is that people are blocking the roadway when they really aren't.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I mean, we're not seeing, like, them actually stop any vehicles. You know, the car's still driving it out of ice of the Whipple federal building. there hasn't been that much impediment. Personally, I probably only saw one protester ever pop a tire of an ice vehicle, and that wasn't even at the federal building. Okay. So with that said, tell us what else you saw while you were there. At what point did you get back? Because we had a big general strike on Friday, 50,000 or more people at the very
Starting point is 00:29:55 least protesting, never mind necessarily participating in the strike. Give us a sense of like what you saw when you were last there. So I left right before the general strike, the day of actually. I talked to a bunch of people on the ground during that day and also who was there yesterday. But there was this general idea from a bunch of reporters that I was talking to that, you know, protesters were standing there, they weren't doing anything. And you see this pattern emerge out of Minneapolis. And I was there for almost two weeks right after the killing of Renee Good. Is that, you know, they'll go up to protesters and say, back up, back up.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And, you know, they'll say, don't move or they'll say move away. And they give these, like, contradictory, like, instructions where you're, like, destined to fail if you're just in proximity of an ICE agent. And so there's a lot of tear gas that they love using. But at the same time, they're shooting off less lethals at protesters. And some of my friends and colleagues had gotten injured. But by and large, I think the retaliation against reporters has gotten more obvious on the ground just yesterday, even at the Home Suites Hotel where the Department of Prisons pointed a gun and two reporters,
Starting point is 00:31:32 Ethan Noah Roy and Sean Bechner-Karm Mitchell. And, you know, they kept asking everybody, show me your fucking press badge. But they'll also say things like, we don't give a fuck if you're press. And so there is this very mixed messaging that actually really puts a lot of reporters and protesters at danger because they don't know what their instructions are. And even if they are, they're like not legal instructions. They're not breaking any laws. There's this notion that these are, you know, they keep saying you're impeding an operation or law enforcement operation.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That was also the excuse that they used to justify the killing of Alex Preti. Can you describe what a so-called operation looks like with ICE? Because it seems like it's kind of they're occupying. the city. So the entire area is supposedly an operation. Yeah. So it's really interesting. A lot of the enforcement at one point was concentrated on East Lake Street. And, you know, you could literally just see them going past all the time. They'd be stopping at these restaurants or turning in into a neighborhood to terrorize people and to gas them when, you know, they blow their whistles or they are followed. But, you know, I just want to remind, you know, you're
Starting point is 00:32:52 viewers that a lot of this language that we're seeing come out of the White House and DHS is couching the NSPM 7 memo that dictated a very broad set of rules for what could be counted as domestic terrorism. So I posted a video last week where me and another photographer were tracking ice and we were on the rapid response chats and, you know, ice jump. jumps out of their car and they say, you know, if you fuck around, you're going to get arrested. And the thing is, the one thing he said that caught my attention was at the end, he says that we've got your plate, we've got your name. It's going to be, I think he said something about there being a database. And in Maine, where there is an extensive ice operation happening there right now, officers were seen talking about a database, about people who are just,
Starting point is 00:33:52 filming. So when an ice operation happens, they turn into a neighborhood, knock on doors, and they detain somebody, and they don't really check for papers. They're just like stopping people and just taking them. And so they see people filming as impeding on their operations, which is insane. I think we actually have that video in Maine of the database that that exchange. It has been quite clear that they're videotaping. I mean, we know that Jonathan Ross, the killer of Renee Good, was videotaping her. And, you know, these guys are not doing it. Maybe some of them are for their like home movies, but they're doing it because they're, they are intending to use this material at one point. Here's that exchange that you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:34:50 This took place up in Maine. And you're saying you had a, similar one in Minnesota. Let's watch this. It's not illegal to record. Exactly. Yeah. That's what we're doing. Yeah, why are you taking my information down? Because we have a nice little database. Oh, good. And now you're considered domestic terrorists.
Starting point is 00:35:10 We're videotaping you? Are you crazy? That exchange is pretty revealing. I mean, regardless, of questions of like, that doesn't seem terribly professional to be doing, et cetera, et cetera. He's telling the truth. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I mean, and that was consistent. What we saw on that videotape was consistent with what you experienced now in, in Minneapolis. Yeah, absolutely. There's actually a video about my Instagram, too. Like, they literally get out of a car. I wasn't even driving. And they said, you know, you know, we've got the plate, we've got the vehicle.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So I don't think they're just making a database of people. And, you know, there has been so many reports of them using, you know, extremely flawed facial recognition AI to identify who is a migrant and who isn't. But the added aspect of that is that if they have a database of vehicles and plates, you know, it's kind of like the police's lean system, like when they can look up plates, but they actually need a reason to, these federal ages don't need a reason. And, you know, the risk is elevated for me because I'm like, one of the few, you know, reporters on this beat who is a migrant, it was terrifying because it does raise questions about,
Starting point is 00:36:37 you know, press freedom and like just stuff about the 14th Amendment. You know, your people are getting arrested pulled out of their cars simply for following ICE agents. But like, you know, there is nothing illegal about that. Let, give me a sense of like, how much time did you spend with these rapid response networks in Minnesota, in Minneapolis? I wonder, A, what your impressions were of these networks, if they are networks. I mean, just how would you characterize what you're seeing there and both from a, like, a sort of a tactical standpoint and also just in terms of like the, sentiment? This is probably the most robust rapid response I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:37:31 What journalists do is very similar to what the rapid responders are doing in the sense that they're spotting these vehicles, looking up the plates and then, but the differences rapid responders are almost always on a call on signal, and they're people doing plate checks and giving information about where exactly an ice vehicle was spotted. And when you're out following them, there was a case where me and a couple of reporters spotted an ice vehicle outside of a neighborhood called Longfellow. We pull up next to the vehicle,
Starting point is 00:38:15 and he rolls down his window and he has a live headset on, but he's unmasked. So that sometimes means that there is supervisor instead of just like an regular agent. And we asked, are you ice? And he was like, none of your fucking business. And so we noticed that there was a cage fitted into the back and like the,
Starting point is 00:38:38 and like lights, but also like this like front ram that people like law enforcement uses to do pit stops. And we ended up following, you know, this officer for 20 miles north of Minneapolis. And that's something that you see all the time as well, that a lot of these agents aren't even getting out of their car. They're just leading people on wild goose chases with no result. And it's scary because you have to wonder if that's a decoy.
Starting point is 00:39:06 We end up driving 20 miles north of Minneapolis, and then a cop car starts following us, and the ice agent peels off into the shoulder. and some of the rapid responders are telling me that sometimes ICE agents lead trackers and journalists on these chases to a county that's friendly to them, like the sheriff is friendly to them, and have the cops deal with you. So there's an extreme elevated risk because I've seen ICE agents go into a neighborhood, throw tear gas, take people, beat people, tear gas, like pepper spray them when the,
Starting point is 00:39:46 They're on the ground. And, you know, there's nothing that people can really do except, like, throw snowballs and, like, scream at them, which are, like, you know, it's nothing compared to the domestic terrorism language that we've seen come out of the White House. But that's what I've been seeing with rapid response, that people are constantly on the call. They're going to businesses to patrol, even at negative 35 wind chill weathers, to do foot patrol or to drive past. businesses during opening and closing and during pickup and drop off time for schools. So we're seeing like this, this, one of the most organized, decentralized, hyper-local rapid response that we really haven't seen like anywhere else. And a lot of that infrastructure is probably from 2020.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I've heard some very good stories about what happened in Charlotte and that folks were very good about driving ice out of there and making you know making ice leave before they had you know hit anything close to their quotas etc etc certainly the invasion of Minneapolis was
Starting point is 00:40:58 of a size I think I think like sort of unprecedented size up to this point anyways but what is it do you have any sense of like what accounts for the
Starting point is 00:41:13 superlatives you're you're suggesting about Minneapolis like what what was it is it is there something unique to Minneapolis or is it simply um temporarily speaking we're at a point where people are a greater number of people are engaged is it the size of the city is there something do you think as i don't know a spirit in Minneapolis in terms of the community uh or the relationship between the immigrant population and, you know, other Minnesotans. What do you think it is? I think a big part of it is that Minneapolis just can't catch a fucking break. I mean, the fact that Renee Good was killed so close to where George Floyd was murdered,
Starting point is 00:42:05 you know, there's so much anger that still lingers over that. And I think, you know, the infrastructure is also good. First of all, it's actually really easy to get around to Minneapolis. If something like this happened in New York, to get from like the Bronx to like Jackson Heights is going to take 40 minutes. The thing about Minneapolis, the thing about these ice raids is that if you're five minutes out from it, you're able to do whatever your role is, which is either you, you know, try to follow them or honk or warn or if your reporter go and chase after it and documents it. And the other thing is, is that there are a lot of people who care. and how emboldened right-wing figures are in flooding the zone in Minneapolis, and how emboldened they are to do a pro-ice march and try to burn a Quran like Jake Lang tried to do.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And he's tried to do this in Dearborn, Michigan. This is not his first time. He's always foiled. And I think a big part of this is that people there understand that more than 90% of Somalis in Minneapolis are citizens. So even from a numbers perspective, the federal enforcement is so brazen, so much, so much of this has this authoritarian aesthetic to it that there's so much spectacle that I think people can't look away. One of Renee's goods neighbors was a Trump voter. And one of the most interesting videos I've seen out of it was an interview with him where he expresses a, extreme doubts about his belief. And so if this is moving the needle for conservatives,
Starting point is 00:43:45 I think, you know, you can tell whatever you're seeing on the news, it's so much worse on the ground. Yeah, can you? I just wanted to on the 90% thing. Because I think this is interesting, because I've read theories that the administration did not realize there were 90% of Somalis. I mean, we laugh about it, but I mean, this is not, this is not hard to believe that. That 90% were citizens. And so you have a population where you've got these ice thugs going in there, and they assume they're just looking for Somalis. But nine out of ten of those are citizens, not legally in the country, not documented, not going through a process. They're citizens. And so, I mean, it's probably 90% of the people they're harassed.
Starting point is 00:44:42 there and going on and thinking that they've got like a win, uh, turns out to be citizens. And these are all people with families. These are all people who are, you know, um, uh, integrated into the community, etc, etc. Uh, so, I mean, this is, um, I wonder how much that like sort of the trip wires they're hitting, um, are, uh, pulling the, uh, the community to get together in tighter than one would have expected. I mean, even prior to these multiple killings, murders. Yeah, no, I agree. But I think a big part of this, too, is that we have to be realistic about
Starting point is 00:45:26 this resistive movement, which is that, you know, we didn't see the world, the country rally around the killing of Jamie Alanis Garcia out of California when he was, when he fell off a 30-foot building when he was chased by ice. We didn't see nationwide rallying around Silvio Gonzalez who was killed in Chicago. And there was footage.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And, you know, even for Silvio's killing, it was such strikingly similar circumstances to René Good. I think a big part of this, and PBS NewsHour actually did an interview with a St. Paul cafe owner or something or somebody who goes to the cafe where there are paintings of Renee Good on the wall. And she very blatantly said that, you know, and then paraphrasing here, that she could ideate or conceptualize the sort of violence
Starting point is 00:46:31 that ICE is doing because Renee was a citizen and she was a white mother. So, When we look at these responses to these social movements, I think it's like really important. And as a migrant, you know, I've seen this sort of response where people are so much more sympathetic. The press is so much more sympathetic to Minneapolis because a citizen got killed. And I think implicitly there is this idea that if somebody's undocumented
Starting point is 00:47:06 and they weren't even supposed to be here in the first place, then the death is no big deal. because it was supposed to happen. So I think that's kind of my take of Minneapolis, but the resistance there is no less robust for it. And it's a great point. You mentioned that there are some areas where maybe they drive to a police precinct
Starting point is 00:47:33 or part of Minnesota where there's more sympathetic police. What has been your experience? What have other journalists and activists experience? with Minneapolis PD in particular as well in resistance to ice. So it's interesting. Minneapolis PD, there was that night they shot a man in the leg and people were taking to the streets. And I remember this huge presence of Minneapolis PD and protesters shouting that they haven't changed since George Floyd was killed, that they're that they think that.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I think one protester was like, you think you're fucking better than these ice agents. You're just more of the same. There has been a very heavy MPD response. And I think a big part of it too is that they don't really know what to do. They kind of stand around. They're also tear gassed by ice agents that happened in Chicago too. But by and large, I think maybe ideologically a lot of these cops are. are more similar to an ICE agent than they are to Alex Prattie or Renee Good.
Starting point is 00:48:48 So you're seeing MPD still enact violence and arrest people in Minneapolis under the guise of law and order. But at the same time, you know, Jacob Frey goes on TV and says a couple of bad words and everything they're making, you know, New York Times profiles on him. So. My other question for you is schools. We're hearing reports about ICE agents stationing outside of schools in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I mean, just like, just to plainly say what it is, it's masked men, unidentified men, stationed outside of schools and kidnapping children. This is from the party that says they care about protecting children from abuse. So how widespread is this practice based on your two weeks in the area? Pretty prevalent. I mean, to a point where drop off and pick up time is a really tense moment for a lot of parents and a lot of citizens and a lot of children, too. you know they're they're stopping by at parks nearby kindergartens nearby schools um and churches um
Starting point is 00:50:12 and i remember going to a church in st paul where um the kids are just like looking out the window and you know ice there's an ice vehicle just like literally a block away just sitting there and they'll make like heart signs at whoever takes a photo at them. And so there's like this aspect of like they're just waiting there. Sometimes they don't even do anything, right? Like the day Renee Good was killed,
Starting point is 00:50:40 there was this huge altercation in one of the high schools in Minneapolis. And I think a lot of people that I've spoken to on the ground have told me that like, yeah, they've like, they wonder if, you know, their school district is going to go online. And as somebody who went to school, during COVID, it is just not the same. Like you're missing out on a lot. And we're seeing that.
Starting point is 00:51:05 We're seeing ice presence at schools and churches. And the community response is really just robust in the sense that there's always a bunch of people there during pickup and drop off time. What else, as we wrap up here, what else do you think we should understand about what's happening there? Is there anything that we've sort of left on the table? Do you have any thoughts as to what's going where ICE is headed next, both either geographically or in terms of their tactics? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's enforcement already happening in Maine, Portland, Maine. I think the numbers are, I haven't checked it in a while, but in three days they took like 100 people.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And that's a lot. And I think, you know, we need to have this sort of like the same reaction Americans had for Renee Good and Alex Prattie getting killed should be scaled up to the 800 people missing from Alligator Alcatraz. Like, what happened to that? Like, I'd be like, we just moved on, you know. That's a big deal. And I think that, you know, the Trump administration mentioned that California and New York is next. I've spoken to a lot of folks in Minneapolis who are both citizens and also Somali migrants
Starting point is 00:52:31 who believe that this will end in the midterms. I don't know about that. I think we're in for many, many years of this. I think the window has moved and by and large, despite the resistance that we're seeing, Americans could possibly get used to this. And I think that's a very scary thought that people aren't considering
Starting point is 00:52:52 that this could be the thing that happens for many years and the midterms aren't going to save you. Maybe it could be a mitigating factor, but this sort of enforcement is exactly, like ICE is doing exactly what they were designed to do. And there's no amount of training. There's no amount of, you know, those seven Democrats who voted for more funding for ICE
Starting point is 00:53:19 for training or whatever, it's so ham-fisted, it's so brain-dead. Like, we can't vote this out. And I think the resistance needs to really ask itself what it's willing to put on the line for an occupational force in their city. Wally Khan, we will link to your Instagram channel. It's a great photography on there.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Thank you. Really appreciate you're coming on and giving us an update and hope that your respiratory things get a little better. Thanks so much for coming on. All right. Thank you so much. All right, folks.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Let's play a little, just I want to play a couple of clips of what took place on Friday. By the time we had gotten off there, things had really started to pick up in terms of like the strike. It's hard to assess what a general strike. strike looks like in terms of what's not happening, right? Like, like, you can look at numbers after the fact and say like, oh, uh, nobody shopped that day. You know, one day is a, is a quick blip. People didn't come into work.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Um, and you would think in the context of like public demonstration with temperatures at anywhere from 10 to 10 below. That's cold. Like, that's cold. That's filled in your bones cold. That's, it takes you, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:58 I'll walk to work in the teens or the early 20s, but it takes me like half a block until like I start to realize like, oh, even my knees are cold right now, even with my like, lined pants. Yeah, there's in North Dakota. And I can say that's even cold for people from that part of the world.
Starting point is 00:55:15 But here are images. this is on Friday the day before, less than 24 hours before Preddy was murdered, killed. What? Murdered. I mean, I don't know what the legal would be. Walk me up.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Lock me up if you can't say murdered. But here are, here is aerial shots of this. I mean, it just goes on. And on. It's crazy. This is from BT Newsroom. There's no audio on this. It's just drone footage. But this goes on and on.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And then it goes around the corner. And there's even bigger numbers. It really. And there are also, I'm sure, people that were striking that just, you know, stayed home. Exactly. I mean, this is a, I mean, that's the thing. It's like this is a protest here. Here is another image.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Let's go to the, okay, you can see around the corner, and it just keeps going down. And then it turns the corner from there, too, I think. But let's go to that other shot. And you can hear people chanting. And again, this is another different angle, a different portion of that protest. They're cheering. What do you want? Ice out.
Starting point is 00:57:04 When do you want it? It's amazing. This general strike stuff, you're hearing more and more talk about this spreading across the country. And I really, really do hope it does because... There were people protesting in Iowa over the weekend prior to... I don't know if it was in the wake of the Freddie killing in Idaho. In Boise, Idaho, I think it was, actually. There was like 3,500 people calling for General Strike.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I mean, you're just seeing it all over the place. Yeah. And it's just really, I mean, the No Kings demonstrations were, I think, a good place for people to get their energy out. But this is a step in the direction of like an actual uprising and changing of our system. Because it involves. I just want to say real quick, how you know is because Tim Walz and Mayor Fry didn't support it. It is, it is a moment of like both of class consciousness and using the, you know, using that power to challenge the authority and seeing these things is inextricably linked.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Like, you know, we've been told for a long time that you could, for some reason, separate identity politics or white supremacy from capitalism when you're standing up against it. But you're seeing that white supremacy and capitalism are intrinsically linked. and the systems of economic domination are similarly the systems of racial and ethnic supremacy that show themselves in a variety of different forms. But in this instance, it's immigration law. It's what Wally was talking about, the concept of citizenship, how we have tiers for people's rights and what they are allowed to have in this country based on a pretty arbitrary kind of definition. and make it very difficult for certain people to be citizens because we want to, that they're,
Starting point is 00:59:24 they're more easily exploitable in that way. And so I, I, that is a very hopeful development out of this weekend in spite of, you know, obviously how horrible everything is. Nameless in Minnesota says, keep in mind, many of us did not go to the protest because we were still patrolling our neighborhoods. Right. So, again, the number's extraordinary there. and I think we're going to see more of this, obviously, in the wake of the killing of Prattie. All right, we're going to take a break ahead into the so-called fun half, wherein we will play more footage out of Minnesota. Also, we're going to talk about how things have changed dramatically in terms of the vote.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I mean, on Friday, we were saying, in regards to those seven Democrats, who voted for the funding. And it's really, let's be clear. Hakeem Jeffries did not whip those people. Now, he may not have any control of what Jared Golden does because Jared Golden's retiring. Although, you know. Make a point.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Well, I got to imagine if I had to bet, Jared Golden is not going to have a job that has nothing to do with Congress when he goes into the private sector. He's the guy of the blue dogs. And he's a military guy, right? Of course. This guy's not going to go like, you know what? I've always wanted to pursue painting.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Or I'm going to do some local, I'm going to do cabinetry work. I'm going to one more year of my apprenticeship. No, I would bet you just about everything I own that Jargolden is going to have some job where he is going to utilize his access to Congress. Lobbing, whatever it is. Yeah. And Akeem Jeffries has. has the ability to make that very difficult. I mean, presumably he's going to be Speaker of the House come January.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And they can make all sorts of rules about like, you know what? Jared Golden, we don't want to, we don't have enough credentials for you to come on the hill, whatever it is. There are ways. And we should also say, like Rosa Deloreo from sits on the chair of the Appropriations Committee, there were ways in which to make the DHS funding more prominent rather than to roll it into the minibus. And we were saying on Friday, these people are voting for this. It's as if they think that like what ICE, they're voting on what ICE has done. And that's it.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's going to be end of story. As opposed to like, we're only a year out. we've seen what ICE has become in that year, where do you think they're going to be in 10 months? They're going to, I mean, this is just the beginning of this, folks. This is just the beginning of this. There's going to be more people they kill. I mean, the concentration camps they have set up, and we're going to play some footage of what's going on in, like, Texas and what's going on.
Starting point is 01:02:43 I mean, we have no idea how many people are dead in those camps. No idea. I know people representing people in Berlin. New Hampshire, appropriately, where these are basically like semi-torture facilities because they have a lot of people who are within process. In other words, I am getting my green card, or I am being adjudicated for refugee status, or asylum status, or I am, I have been in an administrative process. In other words, they are here legally.
Starting point is 01:03:24 They are not citizens, but they are here legally. They are within a legal process. And what happens is ICE picks them up, shoves them into these concentration camps, will play footage of some that's leaked out, subjects them to torturous conditions, as a game of attrition, essentially. let's play this number 16 a game of attrition so that they can get these people to say
Starting point is 01:03:55 you know what I give up any rights I have to the process I'm already engaged in what is it no no no I want the where's the footage from inside the camp we don't have that
Starting point is 01:04:16 okay I think I thought that was what people are sleeping on the um this is an ice agent admitting what you're saying about legal uh picking up people who are in the process okay yeah let's play this then okay she's legal like she has a war permit yeah but that's illegal so anybody who has a penny application they get a work permit okay because of that so our direction right now i'll just kind of respond us to our direction right now is to is to taking those kind of people into custody right so they can get through their court cases faster Okay. So he's claiming that we get their court cases faster.
Starting point is 01:04:55 She's got her work permit. She is in a pending process. They are bringing people in. And the guy says so they get their court cases faster. No. What it is, now let's play that footage of them lying on the floor in the facility. This is footage that has been leaked out. This is footage that is leaked out.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And of course, it's very difficult to get this kind of footage. This is in Baltimore, in the Baltimore field office. These are the conditions that people are living it. Now, in Berlin, New Hampshire, my understanding is they don't have blankets, but they put them in scrubs, and we're dealing with temperatures like 10 degrees outside. If you don't put heat on in these facilities, you know, you're talking about 30, 30, 35 degrees. But play this footage. So now we know they're taking people who are in. process. They have a work permit.
Starting point is 01:05:52 They're waiting on a hearing, whatever it is. They put them in these type of facilities, essentially torture or abuse, wherever that line is. I don't think it makes a difference, frankly. And the idea
Starting point is 01:06:09 is like, it's up to you. Do you really want to wait around for your court case? Because that may not come for a while. Look, There's people that we're legal, people who are not legal, people who are
Starting point is 01:06:25 people who are in their family, we're they're in a deposit here in Baltimore, we're in
Starting point is 01:06:30 the 31 Huskin in Baltimore. They're who got a man, they're going to not, we're going to
Starting point is 01:06:45 have been here in a day of the day's in a morning, so that's what's going on here.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I can't transit all that. The last thing was about hunger. All right. Well, yeah, we'll have more to say in the other half.
Starting point is 01:07:05 The other half. Yeah. Formerly fun half. But this is what's going on. So people should understand this is what's happening. And all right, well, well, was it, I mean, did we, I can't remember if it's just like something I watched myself or if we covered it on the show. Did we cover the story? someone, a lawyer was saying how a mother had to suck the pasta off, or the salt, pasta sauce off.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yes. Of every, because they have no baby food. Suck the, because the child can't digest the pasta sauce, suck all of the sauce, but with her mouth off of pieces of pasta to feed to children. Concentration camps. Yep. Not metaphor. Not, no. Definitionally. Lastly, let's just read this from Midwest. leftists. Here from Minnesota, if you're wanting to read this during the show, so people get a sense of what the environment ICE is creating. We are white Midwestern. The violence is so egregious that the children are in no way shielded from our reality. Our seven-year-old son, knowing the dangers they pose, came home and told us, if ICE comes to my school, I will protect my cousin five years old because she has more life to live. Our neighbor hasn't sent their five-year-old to school for two weeks because they're terrified of their child being taken at the bus stop. My partner works for the school district, and ICE is scoping out all the bus stops to take kids for bait. My partner's coworker was also disappeared overnight, now leaving his wife as the sole provider for two daughters, one of them requiring brain surgery as she suffers from seizures, which was the main reason they came to the United States. He was shipped to Texas in less than 24 hours.
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