The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3573 - ICE Demoralized and "Antifa Leader" exposed w/ Ken Klippenstein
Episode Date: February 4, 2026It's Hump Day on the Majority Report On today's program: Donald Trump is feeling the pressure about Epstein and as a result melts down with a misogynistic rant aimed at CNN reporter... Kaitlin Collins over her questions regarding the released files. Independent journalist Ken Klippenstein joins the program to discuss his reporting on a leaked DHS memo claiming the identification of the "leader of Antifa," as well as low morale within ICE ranks and more. Please support Ken's work at KenKlippenstein.com. In the Fun Half: Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) repeats Trump's false claims of election corruption in support of the SAVE Act. Sen. Tommy Tuberville says on Larry Kudlow's show that there at least half a dozen sitting members of Congress that benefitted from rigged elections. Steve Bannon claims that there will be ICE agents surrounding voting centers. Donald Trump doubles down on his support for nationalizing elections, calling for the federal government to "oversee" the voting process. Dr. Mehmet Oz announces new AI "avatar doctors" for rural Americans in lieu of funding and medical of infrastructure. Dr. Oz also suggests people start working earlier and retire later in order to generate "$3 trillion for the economy". Off duty ICE agents are chased out of a Mexican restaurant in the Twin Cities are in Minnesota. Democrats host a shadow hearing on ICE crimes and some of the testimonies are very disturbing. We revisit Ezra Klein's comments from last July, where he says that he believes that Epstein's sex crimes were separate from his business life. These comments suggest that someone connected to these files may have been in Klein's ear. all that and more To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: NAKED WINES: To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/MAJORITY and use code MAJORITY for both the code AND PASSWORD. RITUAL: Get 25% off during your first month. Visit ritual.com/MAJORITY. COZY EARTH: Go to cozyearth.com/MAJORITYREPORTBOGO for an exclusive deal only available Jan 25th - Feb 8th! SUNSET LAKE: Now through February 9th you can use the code VALENTINE26 to save 30% on all of Sunset Lake's gummies, chocolate fudge, and Farmer's Roast infused coffee beans at SunsetLakeCBD.com Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com
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With Sam Cedar.
It is Wednesday.
February 4th, 2006.
My name is Sam Cedar.
This is the five-time award-winning majority report.
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On the program today, Ken Clippenstein, independent journalists covering security and U.S.
politics at Clip News on Substack on the Antifa files and ISIS morale problem.
Meanwhile, government funding bill passes with the help of 21 Democrats.
DHS extended only for.
10 more days.
Meanwhile,
Trump and the Republicans
are setting up
for a filibuster
proof vote
on the SAVE Act,
which is essentially
a total voter
disenfranchisement bill.
Judge Halts Fed's use
of weapons versus
anti-ice protesters
in Portland.
U.S. warship
downs Iranian
drone.
Meanwhile,
America deploys troops to Nigeria.
Trump regime claims it's pulling back 700 federal thugs from Minnesota,
leaving a scant 2,300.
The normal number of ICE agents in Minneapolis is 80.
Epstein files are causing resignations, not in the U.S., of course,
but in Europe.
This is Keir Starmert trying to quell.
his former ambassador to the United States, Mandelson's scandal.
Jeff Bezos to cut one third of the staff at the Washington Post.
Basically their entire Middle East Bureau, almost all of their foreign coverage, just gutted.
The good news is Melania should be streaming soon.
40 over, no, excuse me, was it 70 million dollars they spent on that?
New York, New Jersey, sue the Trump administration over the $16 billion due for Hudson River Tunnels repair and construction.
The Trump has just decided not to release.
Homeland Security now trying to force tech companies to hand over data about people who have been critical of Donald Trump.
And New York launches a portal to report on ICE.
movements in the state. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome, ladies and
gentlemen. It is, of course, hump day. Says Emma Viglin. And when she says it, you know it's true
because she coined the phrase. Exactly right. This is the news you can trust. Exactly. There I do.
I guess we shouldn't start off that way, but that's all right. Yeah, it's hump day. It feels like
It feels like the weeks are 15 days long and we are 12 days into the week.
Exactly right.
Right.
Is that accurate?
Pretty much.
It's what happens when a world order is breaking down and revolutionary things are in the offing, it seems like.
Or at least there needs to be one.
I don't know if there's going to be one.
But it feels like the French Revolution.
I mean, we're at
that level of incoming wealth inequality.
And just degeneracy among the people
who are supposed to be ruling the world.
Pretty much.
And I am only eating cake lately.
Yeah, maybe Chris Matthews at a point.
Time to be afraid.
Central Park.
We're setting up barracks.
We'll get into this as the show progresses.
But
understand what happens.
happened yesterday. 21 Democrats, 21 Republicans voted against the funding bill. 21 Democrats
voted for the funding bill. This also provides for only a 10-day extension on DHS funding.
Some of the Republicans who were holding out were doing so because they wanted to attach the
SAVE Act to this bill. The SAVE Act is essentially a bill that would disenfranchise something like
70, 80 million people because it would a driver's license would not be sufficient.
You need a real ID, which is the new updated driver's license or a passport.
And there are tens of millions of people who don't have passports in this country,
probably over 100 million, but in terms of voters.
And the idea is they are trying to wreak havoc on the midterm elections.
We're going to be talking about this a lot more because this is,
is the name of the game. They attempted to do the gerrymander. It did not work. In fact, it backfired.
They are going to do a combination of things in an attempt to, in an attempt to disenfranchise a lot of voters.
They're going to try and make this a filibuster proof bill in the Senate so that the Republicans will pass it.
they're going to try and direct their attention to blue states only.
They are going to try and have ice and federal thugs surrounding, you know, polling stations.
And what we saw in Georgia is just sort of like a dry run, if you will, of them coming in and seizing ballots.
I'm thinking about Texas right now. There was an article this morning about how concerned Republicans are with how much ground they've lost with Latino voters because, as you're saying, their gerrymandering effort was based on 2024 election results where there was a swing of Latino voters to Trump and is going well in the opposite direction. So what would ICE being at polling stations be meant to do in terms of the goal? It's about intimidating a lot of people, but particularly.
particularly Latino voters. If you're a citizen, like you're a citizen, you can vote, but say you were
born in a different country, are you going to show up that day to vote? Never mind, board.
If you look like, if you mean, you know, we know what the ice are doing now. They're rolling up
people who just look black or brown. And so the, and understand, I guess I don't know if this
is apt, but if you think about the COVID protections, right, I wear a mask. I stay out of
like I stay a certain distance from people.
I get vaccinated.
Maybe I take some type of,
maybe I take Ivermectin as a prophylactic.
Don't.
I mean,
I got a monthly subscription because I don't like big pharma.
The point,
the point being that there are multiple ways in which you protect yourself
and you're essentially creating a,
you know,
a sieve and you're just trying to make the holes of that sieve smaller and smaller.
That's what they're doing.
in terms of the voting.
They're going to deploy thing after thing after thing,
and they're going to get more and more desperate
and more and more dramatic with the things they're going to deploy.
That is going to be the story between now and November.
I don't know if we're exactly 10 months away,
but that's basically what it's going to be.
In the meantime, Donald Trump really thinks
that he is going to get past the episode,
Epstein thing because the stuff has come out and he's starting to realize like, man, outside of
Melania, who cares?
No one's going to touch me.
Here he is getting agitated by it, though, in the White House.
This is the voice you hear.
The questioner is Caitlin Collins.
Yeah.
On the Epstein files, you talk about Democrats who were in there.
Elon Musk was also in there.
And so was your Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik and correspondence that he had with him.
Did you read those new files that were published by the Department of Justice?
No, I didn't.
I have a lot of things I'm doing.
A lot of things I don't know.
You mentioned two names.
I'm sure they're fine.
I'm sure they're fine.
Otherwise, it would have been major headlines.
A lot of women who are survivors of Epstein's are unhappy with those redactions that came out.
Some of the entire witness interviews are totally blacked out.
Do you think that they should be more transparent?
They thought they were at least too much.
You know, I heard that.
And you tell me something else.
I think it's really time for the country to get onto something else, really.
Now that nothing came out about me, other than there was a conspiracy against me,
literally by Epstein and other people.
But I think it's time now for the country to maybe get onto something else.
Like health care or something that people care about.
Yeah, what did you say?
Go ahead.
What would you say to the survivors who feel like they haven't gotten justice?
You are the worst reporter.
No one to see.
CNN has no ratings because of people like you.
You know, she's a young woman.
I don't think I've ever seen you smile.
I've known you for 10 years.
I don't think I've ever seen a smile in your face.
You know why you're not smiling?
Because you know you're not telling the truth.
And you're a very dishonest organization, and they should be ashamed of you.
These are survivors.
You know, when you're talking about the essentially the child rape and you're not smiling.
It's too bad for a young girl to not smile in that moment.
It really bothers him. I mean, she's been, Collins has been featuring the Epstein survivors a lot. If you recall, she was at the beginning of kind of this news cycle. Once this started breaking down for Trump and the Republicans, she was having Virginia J. Frey's family on and they were essentially pleading for the release of these files. So she's connected to the victims as a reporter and they are saying that this is insufficient. I mean, they haven't released everything. They violated the law with these redactions of the people on the side.
that Trump is saying who are unhappy about the information being released. It's like both sides,
the pedophiles and the victims are unhappy about the release of these files. Yeah, I mean,
she's representing that and that bothers him and triggers him. And so as his dementia progresses,
his sexism and misogyny becomes even more old-timey. He was like two seconds away from saying,
make me a sandwich. You know, I think he does have a point insofar as there are no
headlines that we're seeing. I mean, we were just talking in the office. Like, you know, and this is
obviously coming at a time, like one-third of the newsroom of the Washington Post is going to be eliminated.
It is when you have the same owner of the Washington Post, just put out a $70 million documentary
on Melania is quite with Brett Radner. Who's in the files. In the files directing.
you get a sense that maybe the agenda is to not piss off Trump.
And so you're not seeing stories about this.
And I don't know if like the New York Times is waiting on like an independent journalist to do most of the legwork here.
And then steal it a year later basically.
Yeah.
And let's be clear too.
I mean, three million documents dumped.
It takes a long time to go through these.
and you know as as we're going through this stuff trying to establish like you know what stuff is real what stuff is not real on twitter um i mean
donald trump supposedly they're sworn testimony by a victim uh that donald trump uh had threatened to
disappear a a young girl um and uh he was implicated in this stuff but you won't find any of that in
the newspapers.
How about the picture of the
young girl in the SpaceX T-shirt
quite soon after
it seems like the emails have
Elon Musk meeting with Jeffrey
Epstein, where the
recipient of the email sent by
Epstein, or no, sorry, the sender
to Epstein is redacted. Not supposed to
be. Those are the sorts of redactions.
Like there's so much
redactions that seem to be protecting the
identities of people who are involved in
really nasty stuff with this. And just
by the way, nothing came out about me.
Yeah, because all the stuff's out.
Trump was at pageants with Jeffrey Epstein in the 90s.
So, yeah, we know what was happening there.
It was trafficking.
I'm sorry.
Like, there's no way to look at these stories, including by survivors that say, yeah,
it was like organized crime the way they were looming around those rooms.
So this idea that Trump is got free of this.
It's because, like, I mean, it wasn't in those emails.
It doesn't mean that there isn't enough on record to indict Trump on this stuff, in my opinion.
It is really shocking the mainstream media's lack of real reporting on the most salacious elements of this.
And it's contributing to a significant divide, I think, generationally in how this story is being perceived.
And the same old guard that was complicit in the covering up of these pedophiles are the ones consuming this kind of media that obscures the biggest stories in here, which are the intelligence ties, the ties to finance.
I mean, there was an email that came out where Peter Thiel and Jeffrey Epstein just talking about this all the deal stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, this is just openly saying in exchanges with Peter Thiel, what they want for the world.
Return to tribalism, counter to globalization, amazing new alliances.
You and I both agreed zero interest rates were too high.
As I said to you in your office, finding things on their way to collapse was much easier than finding the next.
bargain talking about basically collapsing the rules-based international order and stealing everything
in its wake. We've talked about this over and over again. It's literally a blueprint for how
the Trump administration is operating. If you want to say Peter Thiel is in significant
control of the White House, you would not be stretching the truth there, given his close relationship
with J.D. Vance. What Epstein and Teal outlined in that email exchange is exactly what the Trump
administration is pursuing on a global and domestic state.
One of the primary technology figures behind this whole occupation of our cities by ICE is
Palantir.
Like, it's crazy.
And I think also that exchange also sort of like illustrates the one that you mentioned, Emma,
is illustrates, you know, for years, people are like, how, how can the super wealthy
not realize, like, their fate is bound with the rest of the planets as thing?
and they don't believe it is.
It's not.
I mean, their sense is like, you know, we can have a couple of billion die off,
but it's just a profit opportunity.
That's all that day.
The scope is a little bit different, and I'll try to make this point quickly,
but like the Brexit thing is not different than when Epstein is talking to a college girl
about which coach she wants to buy.
And then he's like, yeah, come to dinner with a coach you want to buy.
And by the way, I'll help pay for all your college.
but you need to start to think about what you're willing to give in these relationships.
It's because they see deprivation and financial stress as an opportunity.
That's the class of people running our political economy of the world.
And we wonder why Trump's tariffs are part of the policies.
Why the writers all of a sudden start saying we should be nice to billionaires and also student loan debt relief is bad?
It's because they serve this class of people.
You know, unrelated.
maybe we'll save this for the fun half but like i was trying to think back on like when
ezra klein came out and said like i don't think these things are too i stayed separate i i am
quite convinced that um uh that was like uh larry somers trying to get out ahead of stuff
uh i mean they they you know they've appeared on podcast together and i i suspect that that i
don't think you make that you just speculate on that based upon no when you do no insight
You know what I mean?
I mean, he is.
But, all right, whatever.
We get granular about that in the fun home.
Yeah.
We'll get fucking great.
I sent you the clip on Twitter, Matt.
Sorry, I got thrown off.
It's like popped into my head.
I'm sorry.
I literally sent it to Matt and I said,
make this a sound drop to surprise Sam with.
And then you just mentioned that exact exchange.
Yes, yes.
So great minds.
In a moment, we're going to be talking to Ken Klippenstein,
who has been doing great work.
We now know who's in charge of Vantifa, which has been good because we've been sending smoke signals and nobody's responded to us.
And also the demoralization that can only be encouraged in the context within ICE.
We will talk about that in a moment.
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When we come back, Ken Klippenstein, independent journalists covering security in U.S.
politics at Clip News on Substack.
We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Viglin on the Majority Report.
It is a pleasure to welcome back to the program.
Ken Klippenstein, independent journalist covering security and U.S.
politics at Clip News on Substack.
And Ken, I feel like we've talked to you multiple times over the course of the past just like a month or two because you keep breaking these stories.
First off, apparently the feds have figured out who is Commander Zero of Antifa.
Tell us, explain, please.
So I was given an intelligence report produced by the Department of Homeland Security
that identified a 29-year-old young man with an apartment in Portland, Oregon,
where he was allowing protesters to go and wash off if they'd been pepper sprayed,
you know, get some water, use the bathroom, that kind of thing.
And in this intelligence report, they identified him in very solemn terms as the suspected leader of Antifa.
We found him in Portland.
And so, you know, I see the guy's name and he just, exactly.
Okay, sorry, we've got to do that.
I just look at him behind me.
We're obligated.
We're obligated.
as a news organization to play that whenever we talk about.
It's important. Yeah, no, it's important. It's funny because I always tell people, like, when I came into covering national security, I was expecting Jason Bourne, and it's like what you've gotten is more Reno 911.
It's been very, and that's, this is true of that in spades, because you look at that intelligence report.
The picture of the guy, he looks like a composite of just like any random protester in Minneapolis, just like a guy.
And no criminal record, no allegation of crime in the intelligence report.
just the simple fact that he's opening his apartment up to protesters and to media.
After there was a news cycle, you know, pushed by Fox and conservative influencers calling him this leader,
he invited the press, local media just, hey, poke around, here's the apartment, my bookshelf,
here's my couch, looks just like an ordinary apartment.
And the guy to his credit, like he didn't hide anything.
He was happy to talk to anyone.
He talked to me.
And he just finds the whole thing funny and outrage.
because he's just a guy.
But wait a second, did he let any of the reporters who came in to see the bookshelf,
like, pull the book?
Because, like, he pulled the right book, right?
And the whole thing opens up.
Isn't it the way that it works?
I don't know what level of operational security they're on.
Presumably, it's pretty tight because we've got the entirety of federal government
after NSPM 7 focused on these guys.
One can only imagine that they're running a pretty tight ship.
But I certainly didn't see anything like that.
Can you just explain, though, maybe.
just back up for a second about Antifa and the nature of like Antifa activities because it's not a
centrally organized group and yet this administration is insisting on really a group.
Yeah, insisting on trying to find some sort of figurehead to go after the anti-fascist, which what does
that make you?
Right. So the administration, the White House is convinced and, you know, the course of my reporting,
one of the most alarming things was realizing how much in private they reiterate this stuff and really
believe it. It's not just rhetoric. A lot of those guys really think that there is like, you know,
after 9-11, the baseball cards mapping out the leadership of Al-Qaeda infrastructure. They really
believe that stuff. It's not just talk. It's not just Sebastian Gorka. It's not just the more
flamboyant elements of the administration. By and large, I really buy this stuff. And so from my
conversations with some senior people within Department of Homeland Security, there's
stuck in a position where they have to then take that and translate it and implement it,
what they see as directives from the, you know, democratically elected president.
They say, okay, well, I've got to find some way to do this legally.
And they say that's a big challenge because it's not based in fact that there's some
organized group.
And so what they've done, as was described to me by people in Homeland Security, is there,
the best they can do is kind of find these guys that maybe like interact with the
protesters and try to say, well, maybe he posted out support for anti-fascism at some
point, I guess here's maybe something we can do that that carries out the directive. But that's
really what you're seeing. Is there mapping it out just like the U.S. government did al-Qaeda after 9-11
and ISIS? It's exactly the same program. And the president has more or less said this directly.
He's talked about the enemy within his senior counterterrorism director, Sebastian Gorka,
talks about finding these cells, the language of safe house. I mean, this is all national
security speak that you would have heard reserved for these foreign terrorist organizations. These
Islamist terrorist organizations in the Middle East, and now the war has come home.
There's a couple. I've got a lot of questions about this. So, and I get the idea that there
are people like in the political leadership who genuinely believe this stuff. I mean, it's hard
to sort of wrap your head around that, but I remember talking to a cop that we had started
to interview on the majority report, like in the run up to the RNC.
in 2004 in New York.
And they were having meetings and they were saying like, you know, they thought there was going to be
stormtroopers coming in with Molotov cocktails.
I mean, they were all convinced that this.
And they were really hyped up.
But is there in the context of this, you got the political leadership and they're basically
pressuring the DHS apparatus to, they're like, there are Antifa out there.
there and there must be leaders bring us those does that chain of belief break at one point like
oh yeah okay so there are people are just like it's just my job i got to find something and so we got
we got we got to we got to finger somebody yeah it's almost like sometimes feels like office space
because some of these guys at the senior levels are pretty smart they're not the like field agents
that you see like slipping around to the ice and and do all this ridiculous stuff in in minneapolis
there are some smart guys and they kind of it almost
feels like office space where they're like, I've got seven bosses and they want me to do this
outrageous thing. And so I have to find a legal way to translate this. Don't they feel bad about
like, yeah, that's why they're talking to me. Putting this kid on blast and, you know, like,
yeah, that's why they're leaking. Yeah, that's why they're leaking. You mean, you know,
you could say they should do more and leave. Some have. This stuff isn't publicized. You're not going
to advertise that you're leaving if you're at some, you know, mid-level role that's maybe not
quite high enough to merit the attention of the press, but that is happening. Yeah, they do feel
bad. That's why they're sharing it. I mean, it's ridiculous. And when you look at this and you hear
the rhetoric of, you know, there's an invasion and we're going to war, they really are at war.
This is how you would conduct a war. You map out the command and control elements. That's why you
see the rhetoric being used like safe houses and things. They really are at war in Minneapolis and at
major cities across the country on this mistaken belief that there's some kind of insurgent
force that we need to fight a counterinsurgency against.
Now, I know that there are like, to say networks is maybe a little bit too strong of word,
but people organize around this stuff.
I mean, Minneapolis people organizing.
They're doing it in small groups and neighborhood groups.
I know that there was, you know, organizing around when ICE first came to L.A., you know,
people would coordinate, you know, tomorrow.
Mutually.
Bill is going to follow the, you know, the agents when they leave the facility and then, et cetera, et cetera.
Like, this guy seems like they have nothing.
Like, this seems like, like, he's not been charged.
He's not been convicted of anything.
If his apartment wasn't where it was located, if it had been 10 blocks away, it feels like he would have very little to do with any of this.
Maybe, you know, it seems like they can't find even, even as most of this is fictionalized, they can't find anything.
I mean, there are people, surely there are people out there who are more militant and organized.
Are they like pointing at this guy because there is so little there?
Like, are we watching some type of undermining of this process by people internal and DHS by sort of
pointing to like somebody who is clearly not associated with any with anything like that well so they're
limited by whatever legal architecture allows them to target american citizens which is more difficult than
what you can do to foreigners so one of the one of the excuses or pretext they've used to do so is what's
called force protection so once you've deployed ice somewhere you have a um legal ability to protect them from
purported threats and so basically what they're doing is they're looking at
the area because his apartment is, you know, right near where an ice facility is. And they're saying,
oh, we've got to map out threats to ice personnel. And I'm sure they could come up with some
example somewhere of, you know, somebody who got a window broken or something and say,
and say, oh, actually what we're doing here, we're just mapping out threats. So this is about
defending the ice presence there. But the problem with that is that you have an ice presence in every
state, there's a field office in every state in the country. And in addition to that,
they're surging all these resources and getting in situations that predictably result in a civil response,
protesters, unrest, that kind of thing. So they've kind of created the conditions under which they can then say,
oh, we've got to protect our guys. So that's why we're going to collect intelligence on these people.
And in fact, the Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, Tricia McLaughlin, in a statement,
responding to a story I had on a watch list that DHS is produced and whether they're adding U.S. citizens to it,
She responds, she says, we don't keep a watch list, but then in the next sentence,
it's kind of the tell.
She says, but we do protect our assets from threats.
She says something along those lines.
So that's the kind of legal pretext they're using for doing this.
Oh, we're not going out after these guys on an offensive basis.
We're just protecting, protecting the people that we have.
But we've sent people everywhere.
So now we have to protect them everywhere.
So that limits the scope in which they, like, who they can look for.
Like so if, you know, I don't know, Black Panther militants are not necessarily threatening ice, they have a harder time sort of like going and harassing those people.
So it's almost like whoever's going to be living across the street from this ice facility, you're going to be target number one just because it's literally the low hanging fruit.
And it has to be low-hanging.
Yeah, and Trump did a major assist in this when he designated, for the first time ever,
a domestic terrorist organization, you can't normally do that against American citizens
because it's supposed to be limited to foreign actors because it strips your civil liberties
away to put you on one of these lists because then the law enforcement was able to do all these
things they can't normally do.
And so when he designated an anti-fah domestic terrorist organization, what that does is it
allows the national security state to look at someone's apartment like that and say,
oh, he's letting people wash off if they've been pepper straight. That's aid and support. That's
material support to a terrorist organization. It would never stand up in court, which is why they
haven't brought it to court, I imagine, but it's enough for them administratively, internally,
and secretly to create these watch lists, which the story was, I was trying to give people
evidence of here's what one of the database entries looks like because the DHS spokesperson had
pushed back on the idea that there was a watch list. Really, she's just disputing that
word calling it that. She would call it, oh, there's an internal protection, blah, blah, blah,
but I think that's just a euphemism. So anyways, all of that to say, that's the kind of legal
architecture they're relying on for this war. Well, there also, I mean, one, you can, there have been
unconfirmed reports, but I just think common sense dictates it that there are provocateurs at some
of these demonstrations that clearly have ties to law enforcement. You can go back to Trevor
Aronson's reporting from Black Lives Matter in 2020 when he uncovered an undercover FBI informant
that was trying to stoke Colorado Black Lives Matter demonstrations towards violence. I would not
be shocked if that is much more widespread given the scope of what the administration is trying to
do here. It's what makes some of these responses by civilians in these different cities so
remarkable is that they've basically given them very little in terms of pretext. So they're
resorting to these kind of pathetic tactics like this.
Pathetic is a really good word for that and something I want to try to get across,
which is that this whole effort, it's Reno 911.
That doesn't mean that people can't get killed because when guys are running around with
guns with all that insanity, that's obviously dangerous.
But like, it should be understood that both internally they are collapsing in terms of morale
that I've talked to lots of agents that like, you know, they're not going to join the protesters,
but it makes them feel bad what's going on.
and it just is having an effect that I don't think is being captured by, A, the media,
and B, the administration doesn't want to admit that.
They're not going to come out and be like, yeah, you guys are, you know, causing some problems.
So to your point, Emma, you know, I reported on an intelligence document from ICE or detailing Border Patrol support to ICE operations that they have going on secretly.
One is to penetrate these things with undercover officers,
to create informants among them.
So all that is true, and it gives you a sense of the sprawling character of this war on the protests
and which, you know, is catching people in the crosshairs that resemble a lot of people
who work for ice.
And because of that, when these protests happen, they feel bad in a way that they might not be
inclined to if it's an immigrant who doesn't look like them, or if it's somebody you can say,
oh, that's not like us.
Increasingly, people I talk to, they're like, you know, these guys are crazy comedies,
but they have the right to say whatever they want to say.
And, you know, they don't feel great about that they're having to enforce this against them.
So I think that's a point worth mentioning in the process.
So follow up, though, really quickly.
Do you have a sense of how widespread the perhaps internal resistance?
Like to Sam's point earlier about like, are they offering up this guy because it's so flimsy?
Do you have a sense of how widespread the scope is of perhaps like throwing, what do you say throwing in the gears of a bike or something like that?
I'm not mixing metaphors, but I mean, we're seeing it a little with the Epstein files, I think.
There's almost seemingly like internal obstacles that are being created perhaps by people that are of conscience, to your point.
Yeah, well, they feel trapped.
They describe it to me because it's like if they go rogue, then it's kind of like,
They become the deep state that Trump has been shrieking about for the last eight years.
And they feel like, you know, they might not agree with his policy, but he's the elected leader.
At the same time, I don't see so much malicious compliance as trying to, like, come up with, like, the least insane way to implement something.
And then also talking to someone like me about it, that's what the resistance tends to look like.
It's definitely not partisan because basically all the guys in these, I have to laugh sometimes,
people like, oh, Ken's just talking to some left-wing guy.
It's like, there are no, they're not really any left-wing people in the Department of Homeland Security.
So it's not partisan in character and it never will be.
But what it is is, you know, just it's really sincere.
They just feel bad.
And they're going to try to disclose it to the extent that they can because they're always,
it's sort of touching how naive there.
They're like, hey, why isn't Congress disclose some of this stuff?
We briefed them on this a year ago.
They should know about this.
And I'm just like, buddy, like it's not really what Congress.
does. So then they come to me. And yeah, transparency is what the resistance looks like, I think,
is trying to disclose these things because they feel like it should be public in the first place.
I want to, I want to get back to the Congress because, you know, the guys who are talking to you
today may be hauled in front of Congress, you know, come to, you know, a year from today.
Yeah. If the Democrats take control, they may not. So let's talk about this.
broad sort of theme of like a demoralization that's happening within nights because this is
from the perspective of people who are fighting in Minnesota against this and in other places
across the country on some level like this is what's got to have to happen that there has to be
more dissent internally a lot of these people and probably not necessarily the people that
you're talking to, it sounds like the people you're talking to have been more surcareer type of
people in DHS as opposed to somebody who just took this job six weeks ago because they're going
to get $50,000 that they thought. But let's look at, I want to go to this Reddit board. People have
found where people are complaining about their ICE jobs. It is an unofficial form for current deportation.
Deportation officers, prospective applicants and retired deportation officers to have a platform
for discussion.
You know, who knows, I guess.
There's a certain amount of OPSEC, I guess, but who knows if these are real, but I suspect
they are.
Well, I can tell you if it rings true with what, because I talk to a lot of people, including
some of the newly hired ones.
Yes.
All right.
So let us know.
Health insurance.
Been here for about two months, still waiting for my health insurance.
Is anyone having that issue as well?
I chose BC Blue Cross Blue Shield Basic.
MSS told me they don't know how long it'll take,
and I have a sick daughter with no insurance.
I don't know what MSS is.
But don't expect much.
It's like $6,000.
Okay, anybody get the bonus yet?
And someone's right, don't expect much.
It's like $6,000 after taxes,
and they put it in a regular paycheck.
So you end up paying about $4,000 to $5,000 in taxes in one check.
And somebody else says didn't even get paid yet for the base check.
What else do we got?
Man, Monday is four weeks since I started and I haven't been paid yet.
Anything else?
Do we get any more of that or that's it?
Does that ring true?
Like, people are getting delayed.
Here's another person.
Currently in ICE ERO position, waiting for my background to clear.
I haven't spoke to an investigator anymore since my interview for the,
SF 86.
Came to find out my in-laws are illegal and they are waiting work permits.
Oh, my God.
This is an F-up situation because I cannot control, nor is my responsibility to look after
other people in life for my decisions.
But yeah, I know it F me up in my career because, yes, I married my wife.
She is a U.S. citizen and bond with the family.
But back in 2017, when I met her, you don't ask, hey, do you have papers?
Are your parents here legally?
Some BS, man.
And now I have the job I always wanted.
I do what I always dream about.
But there's always a butt in this F life, a man, which pisses me off.
Anyone have a situation like that?
That seems like a distinct relative to the sort of like administrative issues.
But are there a lot of administrative issues that are going on in terms of onboarding these people and getting them paid, etc.?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, it's a bureaucratic disaster how it's being run.
Tom Holman just today had a press conference.
where he described how one of the changes they're going to make going forward,
and the context of this all is like, hey, we're going to be more targeted, we're going to be more careful,
we're not going to have all this craziness going on.
He all but says that.
One of the things he mentions is having a unified command because there were multiple commands
that these things were being run by.
So when you look at someone like Bovino, it was never entirely clear if he was in charge
or if Noim was in charge or if were Tom Homan's role.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I really, I was talking to the guys who had internal access to like their org thing.
They themselves don't know who's in charge of what's going on.
So it's a total like cluster.
And it makes sense that that would affect the pay as well.
I've heard things like people getting somewhere, the hotel wasn't paid for like they thought it was going to be.
You know, I've talked to some of these new recruits.
There's a whole spectrum.
There are definitely the gung-ho types who respond to the memes being posted on Homeland Security and the extremely
political language coming out of DHS public affairs.
But there's also a lot of frankly really sad stories that reminds me more than anything
of like interviewing people at an Amazon warehouse, like really sad stories of guys with like
not very many options and having joined at a time that, I mean like we swim in the world
of politics, but not everyone does and it might sound weird.
But it's like there are people who joined or just kind of like, I guess I didn't really look
into it very much.
No, I mean, that's shocked to, yeah.
It doesn't shock me.
I mean, somebody's dangling that kind of money out there, and you've got a kid who doesn't have,
who needs health care, and you think you can get in, and this is where, you know, at a time,
we just had the new private hiring numbers come out today.
They're incredibly anemic.
That doesn't seem, I mean, heck, that's what happens with the military consistently, you know,
and presumably people have a better sense of,
of that. But the amateurness of it is just shocking in the sense of like if you're going to pay people
to be the modern Gestapo of the United States, perhaps you want to get your ducks in a row a little
bit to make sure that the advertised bonuses are actually coming through and that they're
paid adequately. Is there any report, Ken, of Homan delivering the bonuses in paper bags,
maybe in like some type of fast food bag or something like that? Because my understanding is that
is the best practices for Tom Holman.
One of the interesting things about this is seeing ICE's law enforcement budget be
tripled and interviewing all those people and thinking particularly the more senior ones
are going to be like, yeah, we really have some resources now.
Hardly anyone I talked to seemed excited about it.
And I asked why.
And they were like, well, you have to structure it and create systems for it.
And you can't just like make it rain and just like you'd have to create infrastructure
to produce new.
agencies and things. They haven't done that. They're just
chaotically, like, sending
people out under basically the same system we had
before, to give you just one example.
ICE literally in its handbook
has no policy at all. Zero
mention of protesters,
civil unrest, even rioters.
So they're not trained
or even have like a concept.
They're supposed to be a deportation agency
essentially. And so they've been
put on this new mission, which places
it basically at war with American protesters.
But they haven't updated the
institution at all to say here's what you're allowed to do here's what you're not allowed to do
here's what you should do here's what we'd like you to like so they're just flying by the sea of their
pants there's no guidance yeah that's how i would characterize basically everything i've seen like
it's i know it sounds crazy but it's to go back to the theme before it really is not um
some spy thriller movie like it's just total chaos if people i mean like look we have uh four
people in this office and if tomorrow um you know Minneapolis is going from 80 uh ice uh people on a normal
you know like a year ago 80 people stationed there to 3,000. Right. Um, if we had a hundred and
20 people show up in this office tomorrow for work, it would be total mayhem. Yes. Yes. And we wouldn't like
there might be one or two people I could say like, okay, do research on this. But the other 118
people would just be standing around and now we got to feed them we got to like uh you got to take them
to the commissary i mean it would be very complicated but is there like so you've you surged 3,000 um ice
agents into minneapolis do they have quotas like how do they even yes yeah they do and okay that's
another thing that i found agents resented lots of them because i'm not just talking to the ones who
will talk to me or critical i also um i don't want to get in specifics but i i have access to things
that their coworkers are saying it like internally.
And almost across the board, they resent, at least the kind of correspondence I've seen,
they resent the quotas because they literally can't reach them.
And so what they end up having to do is just like whip up cases.
I'll report this later, but they described writing like narratives in arrest reports,
which are not true and just lying and saying that this guy admitted to this and knowing
that it wasn't true and saying like what am I supposed to do man like we got to meet all these
quotas like I can't even get halfway there so so they regard it as you know because the quotas are
so high and there's no attendant kind of like here's how you can meet the quotas by doing X, Y and Z.
It's just like go and do it and there's no again like yeah if you had an influx of all these new
guys you'd have to create systems they haven't created the systems to to reach these quotas in a way
that's actually following the rules.
So are these quotas for like how many people you arrest or detain as opposed to like,
you know,
it's one thing.
Yes, just arrest and detain because the legal system, they're just letting them go.
And they're just going to shove them through the system and they don't care what the disposition of those people ultimately are.
They don't they don't lose their quoted numbers.
If it, if it doesn't go to.
Yeah, if it doesn't survive court.
So they're just looking for basically like, it's almost like cold callers.
Like, here's your 30 leads of the day.
And if they don't close any of them, they don't care because they delivered their 30 leads.
So that's why even the hardcore ones don't like it because they're saying in messages I've reviewed, they say, okay, well, we got all these guys.
It's never going to stand up in court.
And then they just go.
So what was the point of any of this shit?
And so, again, like the opposition to it is not partisan in character.
There are a lot of hardliners that are like, this is not an effective way to increase.
immigration enforcement. I want to I want to play this story about the a I guess an ice lawyer.
I want to get there in a second. But is like how frustrated are they? Like I mean, where are we on this?
I mean, if we are 10 months out, I'm speculating here, but let's say Trump and Miller and ultimately,
they are like hoping to use these guys as a way of like inhibiting the vote.
Right.
And you know, we saw, we've seen pictures of like ICE agents pulling files out of places at
times sort of like being deputized, redeputized to do other functions.
Like, does anybody have a sense of like, you know, if this keeps up, I'm, I'm three weeks away from just.
you know, walking off the job or, you know, how much conflict, how much, you know,
do people have a sense of like there's a breaking point?
Like this is a bridge that we wouldn't cross or I wouldn't cross.
Have you heard anybody articulate anything like that?
Yeah, definitely.
They're very sensitive to the public backlash.
You know, like any politician, they want to feel like they're the heroes doing X, Y,
and Z, and maybe their audience is not like liberal lefties or anything, but when kind of
independent type people start saying like, hey, like this is kind of effed up, man, like, why did
you that? They care about that. And so, you know, like any institution, it's a continuum and
there are more hardcore people and less hardcore ones. Certainly the young, the incoming
freshman class is more hardcore than the senior ones because that's who's responding to the
recruitment ads. But I would say that if I were to just give you like the average, the average
person from all the correspondence I've looked at.
I would say that they're starting to say things like, you know, I like President Trump
and I voted for him, but this is kind of like a shit show and we have to do something
about this.
And this isn't really like, I want to increase enforcement, but this isn't how you do it.
He's starting to lose some of my respect.
So I would say it's kind of, if I were to guess what like a median ice agent thought,
it would be something like that, like qualified skepticism.
It seems early in the process for them to be that skeptical.
Totally.
Because they weren't like that.
They weren't like that in December.
I mean, this is, yeah.
Well, let's play this clip because I'm curious, you know, it sounds like your sources are more on the enforcement side rather than the prosecutorial side.
But I don't know.
But listen to this that came out of Minnesota.
this exchange, apparently, that took place in this courtroom between a ICE lawyer and the judges is nuts.
Let's listen.
We just need to go halfway through this thing until we get to that quote.
No, no, no.
Let's start from the beginning, but we don't need to run the whole thing.
A study admission in federal court today reveals the government is being, in their words, overwhelmed by Operation Metro Surge.
A Department of Justice attorney told a judge that the federal government system for processing and response.
to immigration cases, quote, sucks.
Fox 9 investigator Paul Bloom was in the courtroom.
He joins us now live.
And Paul, this attorney appeared emotional as she tried to explain why ICE is repeatedly violating court orders.
Simone and Randy, one ICE attorney said the agency simply was not prepared to argue all these cases in federal court
and that the U.S. attorney's office is now working around the clock to comply with judicial orders
and to make sure people wrongfully detained are actually released.
Our camera's rolling on Tuesday as Department of Justice Attorney Julie Lee arrived with colleague Anna Voss for a hearing in federal district court.
Lee, an ICE attorney who typically works in immigration court, volunteered for the U.S. Attorney's Office last month.
She said in court, quote, I am here to make sure the agency, meaning ICE, understands how important it is to comply with court orders, likening it to, quote, pulling teeth.
She admitted the Department of Justice provided no guidance or direction in navigating the legal and constitutional side of the immigration crackdown when she first started in that new role.
At one point, she told the judge, quote, I wish you would just hold me in contempt so I can get 24 hours of sleep.
Lee was ordered into court by U.S. District Judge Jerry Blackwell.
Keep going.
Blackwell is frustrated with ICE ignoring or not complying with his court orders for the immediate release.
of several immigrants swept up during Operation Metro Surge.
Blackwell pressed Lee hard for answers as to why it can take the government just hours to ship out a detained immigrant with no criminal record from the Whipple Federal Building to far off detention centers.
Yet it can take them up to 13 days to bring them back when the court orders their immediate release.
The Foxstein investigators have reported extensively on the unprecedented.
There's a couple of things on this.
Obviously, like, that attorney, I mean, there's two different stories going on here.
One is that the fact is that ICE and the federal government is beginning to ignore more and more of these court orders.
And the judges, we saw this with that contempt a, I don't know, a couple of weeks, like a week or two ago when he was like forcing lions to come in and then sort of backtrack.
the court does not want a constitutional crisis to come to a head.
And you certainly don't want it if you're one of these lower courts.
You're nervous.
And so they back off and they sort of like are giving as much latitude as possible to ICE because they don't want a conflict to show up because then it becomes like, you know, like a legitimate constitutional crisis.
And I don't think any judge particularly of these subsidiary courts wants to deal with that.
but it's also like all of these attorneys have there's a ton that have quit like up to a dozen i think
in minnesota maybe more and this woman's in there saying like i'm a compliance officer i'm trying
to tell ice that you got to follow what the court is saying and this is where all those ice agents
are shoving all of their quota uh detainees into the system that is not built to deal with that
level of like randomness in who they're picking up. What do you hear on that side of things?
What that attorney said is completely consistent with the vibe that I get from particularly
more experienced people within ICE and Homeland Security. And I have talked to attorneys
within Homeland Security as well. They're also like in cardiac arrest over having to send out
all this compliance stuff in anticipation of the comeuppance that's going to happen
when the majorities in Congress have, you know, changed to the Democrats.
So this is certainly at the front of their mind.
Exhaustion is a word I would use to describe a lot of what I've seen.
I got a call from an ERO officer who had just joined a new recruit.
And it was like at 11 p.m., he's like, man, you've got to tell people like, I'm not
get any sleep.
It's a matter of time until something disastrous happened because everybody's running on fumes.
And like, like, I have so many stories just like that.
So when I saw that story about the attorney and I saw their response to it, I thought, oh, that's interesting.
People don't realize how much, in part because the press doesn't talk to them, but also because people are afraid to talk to the media.
But I was surprised by how little known this fact is because I hear so much despair from people that are like, you know, we've gone to all these protests, what difference is it making?
Because they don't have that inside look.
And I wish they did and to the extent that I can try to give it to them in their reporting that I'm doing and show them like, no, like these guys are.
are like completely running out of energy and to accept that they even believe in it,
you know, I don't see how much longer this can go because Trump-
So let me ask you this.
Yeah.
What does that mean when when an ICE attorney or somebody within the context, DHS says like,
people don't realize like we're stretched so thin, we're going to break.
Does anybody have a sense of what happens when they break?
Because it can go one of two ways.
It can seem to me like, okay, we have exhausted.
our ability to send lawyers into federal courts and to keep up with what the federal courts are
demanding as much as they have backed off and tried to give us latitude, like there's only so much
latitude they can give. Does ICE at that point say, okay, we're done pretending. We're not going
to follow any of these. We're not even going to show up for the court cases anymore because we're
done with that. We don't have the ability to pretend like we're going to comply. And so
now we're shifting our energy to just not expending any energy on pretending we're complying.
So here's what I've seen already.
They'll get the reports where they have to tell Washington that we're meeting X, Y, and Z priority
or whatever that they want.
And they're getting at the point where they're just like, F it.
I'm going to write whatever.
Here you go.
We did it, boss, and they just don't do it.
So to give you one example, I saw a chat where there were experienced Border Patrol agents
talking about meeting quotas.
And they had come up with a system where, since this is a task force, you'll see it's like ICE,
Customs and Border Protection, maybe Federal Protective Services, all these different DHS sub-agencies,
Homeland Security Investigations.
It's really quite an army they've built up.
But they will all record one arrest as one arrest for each of the constituent parts of the task force.
And in so doing, they're inflating the numbers by like orders of magnitude,
so that they can go to Washington.
And in the chats, they openly know that this is happening, know they're doing it.
And the reason they feel okay with it is because it's like, well, they've asked us to do something impossible.
So we're just going to say, whatever, here you go, boss, we did it.
And their conclusion was these numbers must be wildly inflated when the admin says,
we've removed or we've done all of this.
Look at all this stuff we've done.
Because this is happening on a systemic basis where they're filing things that they know to be inaccurate
because they're just like, well, they're not going to listen to us.
I'm not going to care about whether this is true.
or not. So everybody, all these different agencies are taking credit for the same arrests. Yeah. And so
one arrest could be like 12 different arrests. Literally like they could say, oh, we had eight arrests and
that's all eight of those is referring to one individual. Right. Right. Yeah. And then they
added all up pretending like it was separate arrests. That's just this is one example, Sam. Like,
they're doubtless doing this in all kinds of different ways. I mean, this is, you know, this is, this is
so important for, I think,
protesters for
people who are resisting, understand,
because this is a war of attrition.
Totally. And
just from my experience
in watching Survivor
on CBS,
is the,
no, but you, like, when one
player sees another player getting tired,
they can last longer.
And people should know the ice
people are getting tired.
And, you know, this is going to be a
long haul for 10 months between now and then. But like it is very helpful to see that they're
breaking in many ways more than the protesters are. Totally. Ken Klippenstein, the substack is called
Clip News and we'll put a link to that at majority.fm and our podcast and YouTube descriptions.
Thanks so much for your time today. Thanks, Ken. Really great work. Really, really important stuff.
essential reporting and stay safe like I would are you going to be the next leader of
antifa I mean well see if they if they have any district level opportunities here I don't
know how they're do you have a bathroom I don't know how far I am from the local ice facility
but I this one thing occurred to me too is like what if that guy um instead of letting people
come in and use his bathroom and wash up charge them like a buck
like a buck per person.
Then all of a sudden just becomes a business.
Yeah.
And it's no affiliate.
I'm not doing it for free.
It's just I'm,
you know,
like selling,
I don't know.
Free market.
Drinks at a,
at a ball game or something.
Yeah,
that's what was wild.
When you watch the interviews of him,
he doesn't seem like one of these kind of anarchist-minded.
Like it seemed like a decency thing to him.
Like he felt bad for these guys getting pepper sprayed.
And no,
you can use my bathroom.
No big deal.
Like that's what's effed up about it.
It's like they're,
you know,
criminalizing just,
being nice basically.
Decency is terrorism under Trump.
But to be clear, this leader of Antify
has not been charged with anything, right?
No.
I mean,
does he go, is he going around like
are like people like waving to him in the neighborhood?
I mean, he must have some acclaim and in fame now.
He seems well liked.
Yeah, he just seems like a nice guy.
I don't know.
People do not, uh, they don't,
they do not cross him either, right?
I would imagine.
Ken, thanks a much.
I want you to time today. Really appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Ken. All right, folks. I know I shouldn't have done that Survivor thing, but it was the only example I could have. No, it was a great example. People, like, watch. But why did you say CBS? I mean, that's what I was confused by. Well, I just wanted, you know, Barry Weiss.
Like, to know what I was talking about. But, like, you know, you see, like, people standing on, like, a stump. And their feet get it. But they look over and they see the other.
person shaking like it's like when a boxer sees blood exactly little wobble yeah exactly um
Cole from little rock wants my opinions on the survivor 50 casting i'm not gonna i don't i'm not a
critic in that respect you should watch traders they have a bunch of survivor uh alums on there
i don't care about the people that much i just admit it's a fun game it's like you know it's like
murder you don't want to support michael rapporte oh my god well that's why i delayed watching
this season what is i had delayed watching the season what is i had delayed watching the
season because he's the host of it but i just started it no he's a contestant okay and i've heard
that i was assured by a friend of mine that i don't have to endure him for that long and that's the
only reason i started this spoiler he's also hated in the house and uh completely unlikable shocker
and went viral for how he eats in the show i haven't gotten to that point yet but i was very upset he
wasn't eliminated on night one he brings the plate up to his face and he shovels the food into his
mouth. But you would like that as a reality show. They bring in the big brother and the
Survivor people, plus some reality TV people, plus some weird celebrities like Michael
Rapport and they all, they all, it's like a murder mystery. Yeah, that's not. I don't like the,
that's not the part that I like. I don't know why I try to introduce you the new things. You've been
watching Survivor for 25 years and that's basically it, right? Is it really been 25 years?
Gotta be right? Oh, geez. Quarter century of Survivor. It's comforting. It's comforting.
That is one of the most depressing things I think I've heard in a long time.
Is Survivor older than American Idol?
I don't think I'm going to recover from that.
Put it in those terms.
Quarter century.
Jeez.
It lasts longer than my marriage.
Folks.
More fulfilling.
Sorry, I'm joking.
Joking.
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of New Jersey politics. But tomorrow is a really important primary election in New Jersey,
right by where I grew up. There is an AOC, WFP, Bernie, Warren, endorsed candidate, also
Ross Baraka, who is the progressive choice in the governor's race, who overperformed, has also
endorsed this candidate. Anna Lillia Mejia, I hope I'm saying that correctly. She's running in
North Jersey. She's basically the consensus progressive choice. It's a really crowded field. New Jersey's 11th district is Essex County, my old stomping grounds, Passaic, Anne Morris as well. This is Mikey Sherrill's old seat now that she is the governor of New Jersey. Tomorrow, part of why I was thrown off by this, Thursday, when do you have a special election voting on a Thursday, is the primary race? And you'll recall that if you're
you were in New Jersey, part of why Andy Kim won that race and you had the success of a more
progressive candidate in Jersey City is because there was a successful fight in part led by the
Working Families Party to change the county balloting process where the there was like basically,
you know, party committees that would decide on a specific candidate, usually a centrist
establishment candidate and would put it in a privileged column with like the
that resulted in, and there were studies of this, like, really benefiting essentially undemocratically who the party committees were picking.
That has gone away here.
This is a part of this new kind of refangled primary process in New Jersey.
And so it would be really, really cool to have a progressive represent a deep blue district in North Jersey.
There's a lot of wealthy people there for sure.
But it's also quite a diverse district.
So the candidate is named Analia Mejia.
So if you're in New Jersey, go out tomorrow and vote for her.
How do you spell that, Mejia?
M-E-J-I-A.
Matt.
Yeah, yesterday on Left Reckoning, we got into the highs and lows of Texas politics from the Taylor-Ramette victory in Fort Worth to the Colin Allred stunt.
That actually seems to have backfired pretty severely.
It seems to be pretty unanimous consent that Alroyd was weird for doing that in Crockett was unwise.
It maybe turned off some people who might endorse Tala Rico now.
So we get into that and also talk with Ben Fong and Paul Prescott about a book they did on Bayard Reston Species,
which is a very interesting resource with a lot of relevance to today.
I just want to read this one.
I am, Zane.
I may be tired by all this ice as well, but my resolve is endless because I'm not doing this as a job.
I'm defending my city, my neighbors, my values.
I have unfortunately been sidelined for a week or so while I'm in surgery to remove some cancer from my lungs.
To any of the MR listeners in Minneapolis, do me a solid.
And if you run into ice this weekend, throw in an extra fuck you pig for me.
Zane, I hope you have a speedy and healthy recovery.
And thanks.
So, folks, throw an extra F.
at some of these ice pigs on behalf of Zane.
And you may want to say this is on behalf of Zane in a polite way.
See you in the fun half.
Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now.
And I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now.
And I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is three months from now.
But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow.
What?
What is that going on?
It's nuts.
Wait a second.
Hold on for a second.
The majority.
Emma, welcome to the program.
Hey.
Fun pack.
Matt.
Who?
Fun pack.
What is up, everyone?
Fun pack.
No, me, teen.
You did it.
Funcap.
Let's go Brandon.
Let's go Brandon.
Bradley, you want to say hello?
Sorry to disappoint.
Everyone, I'm just a random guy.
It's all the boys today.
Fundamentally false.
No, I'm sorry.
Women's...
Stop talking for a second.
Let me finish.
Where is this coming from, dude?
But dude, you want to smoke this?
Seven and eight?
Yes.
Yes?
It is you.
I think it is you.
Who is you?
No sound.
Every single freaking day.
What's on your mind?
We can discuss free markets and we can discuss capitalism.
I'm going to go to life.
Libertarians.
So stupid though. Common sense says of course. Gobbledygook. We fucking nailed him. So what's 79 plus 21?
Challenge met. I'm positive clovery. I believe 96 I want to say. 857. 210. 357. 35. 301. 501.
1 half. 38s. 911 for instance.
$3,400. $1,900. $6.5,4.3 trillion dollars sold. It's a zero-sum game. Actually, you're making me think less.
But let me stay this.
Poop.
Call it satire, Sam goes satire.
On top of it all, my favorite part about you is just like every day, all day, like everything you do.
Without a doubt.
Hey, buddy, we've seen you.
It's just the week being weeded out, obviously.
Yeah, sundown guns out.
I don't know.
But you should know.
People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore.
I have a question.
Who cares?
Our chat is enabled, folks.
I love it.
I do love it.
Love that.
Got a jump.
You got to be quick.
I get a jump.
I'm losing it, bro.
Two o'clock, we're already late, and the guy's being a dick.
So screw him.
Sent to a gulaw?
Outrage.
Like, what is wrong with you?
Love you.
Love you.
Bye-bye.
