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Episode Date: September 26, 2025

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My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravage Kwanis Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, the national correspondent for the Nation magazine, Host, the Time of Monsters Jeet here. We'll be here to wrap the week for us. Then, later, in studio. Rumb, Brown?

How do I pronounce that? R.M. How do I pronounce that? R.M. Oh, R.M. Brown. Oh, okay. I was trying to do sound like. Meanwhile, Trump's authoritarianism moves into using the DOJ to prosecute enemies of

enemies as Comey indicted That's a mouthful Next up Threat the military phase As Hegsa To convene all U.S. generals and admirals Across the globe

In one place at one time They keep doing this too With also not respecting the lone survivor thing Right? Or not the designated It's very odd It seems not the smartest of things to do. But, of course, it worked out well for, who is it, that guy? Oh, yeah, when Hitler fired all the general.

Dozens of U.N. ambassadors walk out as Netanyahu attempts to justify a genocide. Immigrants with no criminal record now the largest group held in ICE detention as the detainee death toll hits 16. Trump to levy a huge import tax on pharmaceuticals, supposedly 100%, kitchen cabinets, furniture, heavy trucks, all double-digit, massive tariffs. But don't worry, it only goes into effect in four days, so five days. Trump says he will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank. we have that clip we should get that clip uh we have five days out from a government shutdown democrats actually seem to be digging in federal prison bureau ends union protection for workers Microsoft disables some of its services to the IDF under pressure uh from activists yes huge

and good news folks measles hit a 20 year high uh in this country and pediatric fluke deaths hit a 15-year high. Records out over the place. Two-thirds of immigrants at Alligator Alley, who were there in July, have seemed to have just disappeared. Lastly,

Spain, Italy, deploy naval vessels to protect the humanitarian flotilla headed to Gaza. All this and more on today's majority report. It is

Friday. Yes, a very casual one. Matt, you've got to bring me on screen, if you don't mind. Here I come. Brian's not here today. Brian's not here. And Matt is just taking a sweet time closing over to the... That was a left-handed scene change. maneuver, yeah, well done. Thanks for joining us, folks. You know, every couple of days we move into a different stage of authoritarianism. We still have, obviously, an increased number of ice thugs going around, tackling people, shoving women, children, ripping families apart, disappearing them to detention centers where conditions are awful. People are dying. There's a protest that is happening today.

sometime around now, actually, in New York City, over what's going on with the ICE detainees. We'll talk a little bit with Jeet here about the phase of authoritarianism, where you go in and use the chief law enforcement officer of the country to go after your political enemies on really wafer-thin charges. it's not like we didn't see the actual DM telling Pam Bondi to go after Comey and others. We'll get to that as well. But what is happening today just across the river from us, Benjamin Netanyahu is addressing the UN. this is coming at a time where multiple countries in Europe have recognized, at the very least, the concept of a Palestinian state. And that, people may say, okay, what does that mean in the face of this genocide? And I think there's a fair point there.

But Moin Rabani had a really good piece in Jacobin speaking about this, where it's the easiest thing for these Europeans. and Western governments to do. So, and it's clearly a response to pressure from activists, but it also is not meaningless, given the fact that Israel is responding with absolute fury about it. Because as we played the other day, this reporting from the Guardian where they interviewed people in Tel Aviv, you can just tell that they're most concerned about worldwide perception of Israel, more than, of course, the Palestinians, even at these protests. tests, and this is a major problem for them in the diplomatic sphere.

There's a lot going wrong for Israel in that sphere. Meanwhile, they have leveled parts of Gaza City, like just absolutely leveled and devastated it. 47% of respondents, according to a new Quinipeak poll that was released yesterday, say that backing Israel is in the national interest of the United States, while 41% believe it is not, and 12% do not know the answer. This is a sharp change from December 2023 when Quinnipiac reported that respondents backed Israel by a 69 to 23 margin. That's a huge change. The survey also found that 49% of American voters have an unfavorable opinion of Netanyahu,

21% saying that they have a favorable opinion of him. 31% approving of Trump's handling of the Israel-Gaza War, 506% disapproving. It'd be nice if Democrats had the opportunity to exploit something like that. The number of Americans who are now sympathizing with the Palestinians over Israelis has gone up sharply. just 8% of Democrats, 25% of independence, back Israel's Gaza campaign. I should say, that's in Germany. 58% of Americans favor a UN recognition of a Palestinian state, and half of U.S. registered voters say Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza.

Not just Democrats. Not just Democrats, no. And we have, well, this is the way that people reacted to Netanyahu at the U.N. today. These are the delegates. This is not applause for Netanyahu. This is an ass audience. This is applause for people leaving, as you can see. Please, order in the hall.

No order. No order during a dance. Please order in the hall. It's like lunch break. It's called Walk in the Room. Please order in the hall and please be seated. It's like it's going to be an exclusive speech. So, I mean, the vast majority of delegates at the U.N. General Assembly walk out on Netanyahu.

This is the image tweeted out by the State of Palestine account. I mean, pretty powerful, all those empty seats. Meanwhile, speaking of power, Spain and Italy have deployed naval vessels to protect the humanitarian flotilla. Greece has said that it will be protected as it goes through their, I guess, their waters. But this is a big deal because, as you know, Israel has attempted to board or has boarded a flotillas in the past, has fired drones at them. Detain Chris Smalls and beat him in severe conditions, among, you know, others. And here is Greta Thunberg on that same flotilla as it heads to Gaza. I'm not scared of Israel.

I'm scared of a world that has seemingly lost all sense of humanity. And what we are doing here is trying to show that there is still some humanity left, that there are still people willing to step up when all other means fail. But this is a last resort. This mission should not have to exist. Free, free, Palestine. Free, free, Palestine. There it is.

It's, I mean, this. I mean, creating a humanitarian corridor is also terrifying right now to Israel when, I mean, I was listening to an interview with a drop site reporter speaking from the flotilla. We interviewed Greg Stoker recently from the flotilla as well. He was speaking to Crystal Ball and Ryan Graham about what the nature of this protection is from these European ships. And apparently, it's still ongoing, right? The Italian one is supposedly just there for rescue purposes. The Spanish government might be acting a little bit more, I guess,

aggressively towards Israel is my understanding. But he was saying the negotiations are ongoing. But in the best case scenario of what happens here is if you have European countries and Greece may be joining the fight soon as well, protecting this AFLTILA and they're able to break the siege, this shows that there are opportunities for countries to come together and deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza through this corridor and dare the Israelis to bomb European ships.

A lot of strike actions going on, I think, particularly Italy to... Italy has been, there have been national strikes. It's the dock workers, yeah. This is Paolo Massetti, an Italian journalist, and Pisa, once a socialist stronghold in Italy, the city's firefighters joined the general strike for Gaza and knelt in front of the Palestinian flag. Let's play this. This is from Trump on about yesterday, I guess it was, and asked if he would allow Israel to annex the West Bank. And as you know, it was widely reported that Miriam Adelson had made her $120 million campaign donation to Trump contingent upon a promise that he would allow for full annexation of the West Bank, or for annexation of the West Bank, I should say. In the meantime, what I suspect may have happened is that Trump's friends in Saudi Arabia said that that is a bridge to. too far, and you're going to screw up our deals with you.

I think this, the idea that Trump has in some way found a conscience about this is absurd and laughable. He found a luxury plane from Qatar. What was the, oh, okay, now I get it. But here is Trump. And what's interesting here is we could see, and, you know, Jasper and the, Daniel from Infinite Jest may very well be headed into that area. Infinite Jazz.

He's been a jazz. Sorry, chest. I always do that. And he's, you know, has reported from there in the past and has been, you know, following intensely as sources, West Bank. Either they just continue on with this sort of rolling, unofficial annexation of the West Bank. or there is a clash with Netanyahu and Trump. And we'll see, you know, Taco Trump. But here he is talking tough here. Did you promise leaders this week that you would not allow Israel to annex the West Bank? Is that something that you spoke about?

I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank. No, I will not allow it. It's not going to happen. Did you speak with Netanyahu about this? Yeah, but I'm not going to allow it. Whether I spoke to him or not, I did. but I'm not allowing Israel to annex the West Bank. There's been enough.

It's time to stop now, okay? So what's really interesting about the timing of this was, wasn't Tucker Carlson had a segment earlier this week that speaking about how Netanyahu is humiliating Donald Trump? And I saw some people speculating saying this is going to get back to him. I mean, he's very easily manipulated. He also doesn't have, and is susceptible. to flattery. Harris said that during

the campaign, one of her only kind of astute observations, unfortunately. But, yeah, there it is. Wednesday. On Glenn Greenwald show, it's humiliating Tucker Carlson rages over Nanyahu controlling the U.S. and Trump. Who knows what factors into his decisions.

This also comes back. You know, Rubio had just come back from his trip, and the Qataris are furious that Israel bombed their country when they We're being mediators, so we don't know what is factoring into this decision. But I just don't trust that Trump has the wherewithal or the fortitude to follow through on this or even understand, like, what is happening with Area E or whatever, that settlement that Israel just approved, that creates, basically forecloses the idea of a contiguous Palestinian state from occupied East Jerusalem to the West Bank. Does Trump know that that means essentially annexation, even when they're not annexing it?

My guess is no, and that's my prediction for how he's going to have to play out. I suspect that this is a function of what is a red line for either Qatar or Saudi Arabia or other Arab states who are afraid of potential reaction in the event that Israel annexes the West Bank. and whatever deals Trump has. I mean, the guy has doubled his net worth in nine months. That's pretty good business since. And whatever deals he has with them is in jeopardy. And Schweng's State on the IM says, can you guys explain exactly what it means for the U.S.

not to allow Israel to annex the West Bank? Well, U.S. has protected Israel in the U.N. Security Council for, ages. And, you know, for the UN Security Council to condemn it, for there to be full-fledged boycotts and sanctions and a non-recognition, you know, the only difference really essentially with annexation from what it is now is that how the international community views it. And the lack of annexation gives the international community some type of fig leaf as to pretend that it's not happening. And so it's not that the U.S. can absolutely stop it, but the U.S. has enormous amount of leverage over Israel in terms of weapons, et cetera, et cetera. And then if they simply decide

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Tudry, choos and jacques, jes, jac, jose, jose, tich, tach, duch, dach, d'all. We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland, on The Majority Report is always a pleasure to welcome back to the program, National Correspondent for the Nation magazine, and host of the time of monsters. And it certainly is, Jeet here, Jeet, thanks so much for joining us. It is, it feels like every week we're moving into a different phase of, of, really of authoritarianism, right? I mean, it does seem like where, you know, things are starting to hit the fan. And, you know, like, one is sometimes a bit reluctant to start using this language because you don't want to be, you know, the boy that cried wolf.

But, you know, like, actually, you know, like there's more and more wolves. And there's even, like, stuff that I don't think people are paying enough attention to, which are quite striking. I actually think that the, you know, Charlie Kirk assassination, and then this latest attack on the ICE facility, both actually like very ambiguous events in many ways, but they're trying to use it for everything that it's worth. And there's stuff that people don't talk about, like the declaring Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, which has like real potential for like being used against the left. Well, we talked about that yesterday a little with Ken Clippenstein, and I asked-

The Nealistic NVE. Right. And I was asking him about that because I saw some reporting saying, like, okay, this executive order where he makes this declaration, it doesn't have any teeth, he doesn't have the ability to change it via executive order. But Ken push back and he said, I don't, I think that reporting is a bit misleading because it's really not a question of some official declaration. It's just how does our law enforcement on the federal level prioritize things?

And Trump has clearly told them prioritize this, and that's really all he needs to do. That's exactly right. I also had a conversation with Ken exactly along that line. He really gets around that guy. The more broadly the way to think about this, I think, is that this is the ultimate sort of blowback from Bush's war on terror. That within the global war on terror, you have. this kind of apparatus that was set up

to combat al-Qaeda. And even at that point, I mean, a lot of people said, you're fighting terrorism, which is like a tactic, and you're certainly using the American military, which is not maybe the most efficient way to deal with things. But there was such a thing as al-Qaeda.

There was a network, and there's ways in which you could disrupt that. But what Trump's entire worldview involved is, you know, coming out of the failure of the war on terror, you know, which ended with two big wars being lost, the right has turned inwards, and they want to, like, you know, use the apparatus of the war on terror domestically.

And people like Gorka, Sebastian Gorka, are, like, come out of that, and they're going to use the sort of worldview and a way of thinking and state apparatus that was used, you know, in the Middle East, it's going to be applied domestically. And I think that that, you know, like, if you think about what that would mean, it's terrifying. It is the war, you know, to use the old 60s slogan, you know, bring the war home.

Well, they are bringing the war home. Yeah, indeed. And I think, you know, your point at the top, you know, suggesting, like, it's hard to use the word authoritarian without, because you almost want to keep some powder dry. Yeah. But I don't know. Like when you've, you know, when you've been pushed off a cliff, have you fallen off a cliff if you haven't hit the ground yet? Like, I mean, it's like, it's quite clear that we are headed down this path.

And, you know, I've had these conversations with people more normie types. and the almost universal response is, you know, something to the effect of like, well, we're just going to get through these next two or three years. And which I think is not, it's sensible, but I don't think it works that way. I don't think that you just, this stuff runs at an, increasingly higher, like accelerates and runs at a greater pace, and then all of a sudden it just ends. I think the idea is that step by step by step, they consolidate power.

And just the idea that Trump wouldn't attempt to cancel elections, whether it's either in 2026 or 2028 seems the idea that he wouldn't attempt to do it seems pretty far-fetched at this point. And we're a week out from Hegsth getting all the generals and admirals together. And there is a historical precedent for this type of thing where they bring these generals in and say like, you better swear you feel to now or you get fired. the original was in German but so this is like

this is when you've got to stop this stuff right before you fall off that cliff no I think that I think that's absolutely right they are sort of like in a phase of consolidating their power and you know turning over transforming the instruments of state power into their own ends

and I think you know one has seen that especially with the FBI where this really is Cash Patel's FBI and I know that they're good people that are working there. And one does see a sort of tension, especially in these kind of recent shootings, between the people who are the sort of fact-finding part of the FBI, where they're gathering evidence. And, you know, they haven't concluded in all the big cases that these are basically lone wolves, that they, you know, there was no network. But then you get Casper Tal and

Trump and all these other people, like, you know, like saying, putting out this narrative, that there's this vast left-wing network, that it is a trans, a trans, and Trump. gender ideology anti-fah and like where does it lead and I would also say like you know like the sort of the actions that they're taking do not

suggest that they plan to contest elections and this goes you know not just the sort of repressive aspects but also even their economic policies like I don't think that you kind of do the kind of you know

like austerity and slash it burn stuff I think, like, you know, well, we'll just, like, put it to the voters. But, I mean, we don't know. I mean, like, and certainly the time to fight back is now. And, I mean, the other worrying thing is that we have seen, you know, time and again, surrender of elite institutions, surrender to the universities, surrender of big law, surrender of Wall Street, surrender of the media. And to the extent that there has been resistance, it's come from popular forces.

I mean, the Jimmy Kimmel case, you know, as trivial as in some ways it is, was the case that there was like a, you know, mass popular mobilization of people counseling their Disney things. And that is what transformed it. Whereas like, you know, like, you know,

Disney seemed like perfectly happy to surrender. And so, yeah, I mean, the twin dynamic of an increasingly aggressive administration and an elite that has basically decided to take the approach that you outlined up, let's just wait till the next election let's wait two or three years that's not a good dynamic there's there's these may be triplets um not just that twin dynamic yeah the the the stuff that's

happening in the context of uh CBS and paramount and the potential that ellison will also buy time Werner, which would mean then CNN and the Daily Show, Comedy Central, HBO. In one rather large fell swoop, you could see the elimination of a lot of this sort of mass media that would provide a critical perspective to those normies who think like, oh, it's going to go away in four years. We should also say just, I think that's your smoke detector that's going off. Oh, is that yours? It is, but that's okay. That's normal. All right. I just wanted to, yes. The fire is always going off. Okay. Well, I just want to let people know what that noise was. But, I mean, it is really,

it is disturbing and it's nice. Like you say, the Jimmy Kimmel thing may be trivial, but any display of pushback on the administration is good. What is, I would say, the only thing that seems to be inconsistent with other authoritarian style, I guess, growing authoritarian states. And we should say, you know, like Stephen Miller was, if not quoting gerbils the other night, like clearly. channeling they're well I don't know these

channing I'm like they're studying this yeah yeah you know they're studying these things and um you know I don't know if how how you know how much you need a a roadmap but they're looking for roadmaps and those roadmaps have not led in very good places I mean I would argue that the way

that they are trying to incentivize ICE recruitment is very much borrowed also from the Nazis oh sure to create this lucrative option for these wannabe fascists But the one thing that they're not doing is providing those economic benefits that often comes hand in hand with an attempt to consolidate power. I mean, all we're seeing is either some version of austerity, whether it's going to be in Medicaid, and we're going to see it in the context of what's happening with Obamacare and these tariffs, or. or austerity that's sort of like papered over and pushed into the future.

There's no like handing out benefits, which is often, you know, sort of one of the, the place. That may be the best, that may be the one sort of saving grace when we talk about if there's an opportunity in 2026 with all the, you know, gerrymandering that's going to happen for at least a slow on the role of them taking power. Yeah, no, no, I mean, that was an interesting point. I think the sort of, you know, plutocratic aspect of the American right has always cut against, you know, doing the more populist authoritarian thing of, you know, you build the auto bomb, you create jobs, you know, like, you know, say what you want about national socialism, at least it had an economic policy, you know, like the, but on the other hand, I mean, I think what Trump is doing is maybe doing it on a more. personal level. I like, you know, like, I'm the president. If you, um, are nice to me, kiss my ring, you know, I'll throw you favors. Um, and, and maybe like trying to, uh, also even like

with things like the farmers, you know, like the tariffs hurt the farmers, but then I'll take the money from the tariffs and give it to the farmers. Like, like, there does seem to be some element of trying to make, um, that's what I was, that's what I was kind of alluded to is, is, is, is those are the only economic, the economy's falling apart. Um, the only economic kind of benefits that they're providing are for their Gestapo, which is they're borrowing that from the Nazis. That's also what they did. Yeah, no, I mean, I know the, I know the, the, the, the, uh, the ice stuff and, you know,

like all the money that's going to, uh, building these, uh, detention centers. They, there does seem to be something like you're creating a sort of cadre of, uh, loyalty. And also, you know, to go back to the Hegsa thing, you know, trying to make the military as, uh, you're a Praetorian guard that is loyal to you. So, yeah, I mean, you know, you know, you don't get too far ahead of yourself, but it's all heading in a very bad direction. And as I said, like, you know, I'd be a little bit more confident if there was, like, a coherent opposition.

Well, that's how I wanted to turn to that. Yes. And we should say, you know, sort of maybe like to segue into that, coherent or lack of a coherent opposition. We're five days away from a government shutdown, really four to half at this point, I guess. I don't know what happens if the generals are all headed to D.C. And then the government shuts down.

I'm not sure. Obviously, the military doesn't, but I don't know if they're all taking military planes. Like, I'm not sure exactly what happens in that instance. but um the the the democrats seem to do we have that hakeem jeffreys um uh thing did you see that um i think i may have uh retweeted it or i'm not sure uh i think day in uh retweeted but hakeem jeffreys was out there um and i i really don't appreciate a lot of what he does uh But he was talking a lot tougher.

Chuck Schumer has supposedly, supposedly, if you read sort of like the Hill and Politico, he's supposedly determined not to cave. But sometimes when you have to say that, it's because if you're in the process of caving. But what is your sense of at least the government shut down? And then let's move to sort of the broader question of the opposition, as it were. Yeah, sure. I mean, I do actually think that on the shutdown, there does seem to be a change. And I think viewers will remember, like, the last time we were close to a shutdown, you know, like Schumer was basically saying, well, now is not the time.

And the shutdown would hurt workers. And he came up with many reasons. I do think this is kind of related to this issue. of popular anger and the Democrats themselves, Democratic elites like Schumer and Jeffrey's worried that, you know, like voters are getting mad at them.

One sees this, I think, explicitly in people like Ezra Klein and Matt Iglesias, so I think are the sort of, you know, intellectual equivalents, where they're basically saying like, oh, it really looks like Democratic voters, our Democratic Party voters, are very mad, and they're going to go after us, so we've got to give them some red meet and this shutdown is the best way to sort of like channel that anger in a pro-establishment way.

So I actually think that Schumer and Jeffries are basically, you know, there is responding to things like Zoran winning the primary, right? Like they really don't want to get, they're worried that, you know, like, you know, their phony bologna jobs are on the line. Here's Hakeem Jeffries. Here's Hakeem Jeffries. And just to prepare people so that you're not shocked, his response about the potential for a government shutdown is not to just defer to God to take care of it, which I know people are probably going to, if you're familiar with Hakeem Jeffries, are going to feel somewhat surprised by this. But here he is.

Workers that are just worried about losing their jobs. Donald Trump and the administration have been engaging in mass firings that we deem illegal. throughout the year. We will continue to push back against any effort to undermine federal civil service protections that exist in the United States of America. As a negotiating tactic, our response to Russ' vote is simple. Get lost. That's pretty good, but I would also point out that it's easier for Hakeem Jeffries to say that than Chuck Schumer. Like, Jeffries is trying to save his own. ask, the 60 votes are needed in the Senate.

And all I'm seeing, like, I'm seeing Patty Murray being like, the Democrats aren't the ones that want to shut down the government or whatever. I'm not as confident in the Senate Democrats. Well, yeah, no, no. I mean, yeah, no, I think that's right in terms of the political dynamic. And I don't think Schumer has control of his caucus. But, you know, I do actually think that the incentive structure for Schumer has changed. I think that his job is also kind of like on the line.

like I think he's very unpopular and yeah so you know I mean I this all goes back to the you know this issue of where will the opposition cover him I think that the angrier voters are as the Democratic Party the more likely it is that you're going to get a Democratic Party that stands up to Trump yeah I think that's true and I think the only thing that gives me some confidence that Schumer at least is is that Jeffrey's got sort of screwed last time with Schumer

and I think he would be hesitant to go so far out in front of his skis were he not confident that Schumer was going to hold the line and I you know there's something like you see Thune coming out there

and sort of saying the Democrats demands are too high which is sort of surprising because they won't take a meeting so they don't really know what the demands are so this is going to be interesting because this is a

real game of chicken and we'll see and it's going to be the first indication I think by the Democratic leadership that there's something extraordinary going on even though we've had government shutdowns before

so let's talk about the this cohesive lack of cohesive um because even in the messaging of this government shutdown it is unclear what what the message is i mean i'm happy for it but what what what is the message like we this the hakeem jeffre sing is the first time i've heard him say like they've been doing sort of a legal stuff all year so we're not going to do that but like it's all over the place yeah no no there there isn't a kind of coherent messaging. And it's kind of a shame because I think that what Jeffries just said

could have been a messaging for a long time. You know, like Trump hasn't been doing illegal stuff. I think Schumer strategy has been to rely on the courts. And I think, you know, to try to be like fair-minded, you know, the courts have been stopping a lot of Trump stuff. But, you know, like as I read the Constitution, you know, like the courts are not the only avenue of checks and balances. and Congress has a responsibility.

And so the, and especially like if you're coming into like good terms, you actually like as an opposition party want to be like making the case like why we should, you know, win back control of the Senate and that is. And to me the best way to do it is to say that Trump is like running

rampant and is, you know, like creating a constitutional crisis and we have to be the checks. And the reluctance to say that to me is like very, disturbing they might be heading in that direction it they're not only reluctant to say that they're also reluctant to offer any type of like any people who engage in this type of activity are going to be held accountable if we get back into office which is also like you know an important

thing to say like we're going to fix things or stuff like um hey this media consolidation yeah i think i saw murphy on tv the other day saying something to that effect of Like, we're going to get in there, and we've got to deal with this media consolidation. Like, come up with a programmatic answer to what Trump is doing in addition to resistance. Yeah, no, you know, I think that's absolutely a lot of avenues of, you know, like all the evidence is that Trump is getting Pam Bondi and Casper Tell to go after his political enemies. And, like, one thing you can certainly do is say, like, you know, like, once we're back in power, you know, like, not only will we have investigations, but there will be punishment. Pam Bondi could be disbarred, right? And you can certainly say to, like, all the sort of media outlets and big law, like, you know, we're not going to forget this.

Like, just say that. We will not forget what has happened. We will not forget the way you caved into Trump. And more broadly, you can make, I think as Elizabeth Warren has been doing and others, make the case that, you know, the real problem is not just Trump's authoritarianism, but the sort of centralization of the media and sort of plutocracy, which is making it much easier to have a very small elite that will serve on behalf of Trump, which is actually very interested in encouraging everything that Trump is doing. so you know like there's a lot more you can do it and you yeah exactly uh create an incentive structure so that people fear you uh but they don't want to do that no it's not now i will say uh you got uh some uh in democrats in the senate who are like uh you know calling for the release of information tom homan our department of justice has apparently video of tom homan taking a bag full

literally full of money taking a fast food bag what is kava bag? I don't know Kava. Everybody can say Kava. Is it a grocery store? Is it a, help me out? I think it's like a sweet green style

Mediterranean sweet green basically. But nevertheless, okay, so a healthy alternative to fast food full of $50,000 dollars. I mean this is nuts. This is absolutely nuts. And what's what's amazing about this is like this was a 45 minute story the other day yeah yeah yeah

no no I mean but there's a lot of a lot of things like that but I mean that is particularly nuts and you know like again uh the effective opposition party you know would make this like you know like we got to get this guy out of there but also like Trump and his administration are hugely corrupt, and they're hugely corrupt at a time where people are hurting. And, you know, the other interesting thing about this is that even though that, you know, Schumer and Jeffries are not really providing in the opposition, I think people are actually paying attention to this, as well as paying attention to the economic news. Because if you look at Trump's numbers, they're really going down.

Oh, they're going down. But the problem is none of that, I mean, and, you know, Schumer was on TV the other day going like, the generic ballots going back up. and they hate us as much as they hate the Republicans, but they really hate Trump more and we're going to get the votes. I mean, that's a strategy, but you're relying on a lot of stuff that you don't control, like literally specifically, you don't control.

And the idea that, like, Donald Trump's net worth has doubled in nine months. Like, that's insane. And the idea that Democrats aren't even, able to articulate this with one voice. It is Schumer and Jeffries are being studious in making sure that people don't realize they're there. Like that is their agenda. It's fascinating. Well, I mean, like more broadly, what we've seen since the emergence of Trump in 2015 is the idea that the threat of Trump will be enough to get votes in line. We just have to make sure this guy's unpopular and that we'll be voted

in his alternative. And we don't have to offer like any sort of like policy alternative or any way to like combat this because we're just the non-Trump and that we will run on enchant regime restoration. That is to say we will take you back to the happy time before Trump when the system worked.

And I mean I think that the real pattern it has been that Trump you know, was able to come in as the voice of like anti-system anger and that the Democratic Party elite has consolidated itself as the pro-system party. And I think Schumer and Jeffrey's, you know, despite taking a sort of stronger stance now, they are still trying to run as a pro-system party. And as a party that basically believes that, you know, aside from Trump, everything is going well, we get rid of Trump and everything will be,

restored. And, you know, like, that's, you know, we have seen that the A, that is not effective for keeping Trump out of power, but B, like, you know, all those are corruption and all the sort of authoritarianism, like, what happens to that? Like, how do you have even, even on its own terms, how do you, like, save the system if there's no punishment or there's no, like, roadmap for, like, dealing with, like, you know, like the crimes that we've seen. And you cannot point out what is being done now, the severity of what is being done now, if you do not offer an ambitious plan to fix it, right? It's like, it's like, you know, don't worry, I'll deal with that little chip on the vase. But if the vase is broken into a thousand pieces, you need to have a more aggressive plan.

And if you don't have an aggressive plan, there's no way to know that this vase just broke. And so, all right, let's speak. Speaking of all this is a good segue into your piece on Kamala Harris' book has come out. In fact, I have it right here. For my sins, I've actually read it. I have a review up in the nation. But I wouldn't ever encourage anyone to read this entire book. But I actually do think the first 50 pages gives you enough.

Can you photocopy them for me? I will get them to you. But I mean, there's I think actually in some ways this book is a vindication of a lot of the stuff that the show has been saying and I've been saying on the show.

You know, like we said, like Kamala Harris needs to separate yourself out from Joe Biden and that Gaza is a huge drag and not speaking out on Gaza as a huge problem. And I think you know, Kamala Harris basically like admits to all this. She basically says, like, that Joe Biden was not able to show the same sort of empathy for Palestinians

that he had for Ukrainians. And, you know, like, what can sort of think of like, well, why would that be? What does it say that you're empathetic for one group of people and not the other? And but it also, it's a very damning book about Joe Biden and the Biden circle. Like, she has a few digs against, you know, Mike Donnellin and Anita Don that actually, I think, quite a effective. And Jill Biden, to be honest. But it's also, if you, you know, and she's critical of herself, but only on messaging things. Like I gave this interview where I wasn't articulate, but she, she has, if you actually like step up back a little bit, it's actually very damning of her because she basically ran as being sort of the continuity character, the continuity candidate,

that I will, you know, be the candidate that will continue. Biden and you know what she said on the view was her kind of point of view you know like I can't think of anything I would have done different than Biden except maybe I would have appointed a Republican. The the thing that I took from your review because I will tell you right now I will not be reading that book. It is highly unlikely that I even read those first 50 pages. But the idea of like I believe all the things that, you know, you know, the Biden people were bad and the, but if a hundred and seven days and the pressure of a campaign, you cannot figure out that this is a bad idea to, um, not distance

myself from him in this environment. I think you are not qualified to be president of the United States. Like, you know, you are not qualified to be present to, to, to, to be the most important, a political leader of a political party. That's just the way it goes. Like, you know, part of this stuff is a test and if you cannot tell

and the thing is, they knew too. Like, it's not like this Gaza stuff was a surprise. I saw a little segment where, you know, part of the reason why she didn't pick Shapiro was she felt that he might be too controversial because of that. But we also

know that campaigners, like canvassers and stuff, like this, we're told we're no longer registering what people say about Gaza in our files because they didn't want to know. And this is just incompetence. You know, it's like whatever her politics are, there's incompetence here. I mean, there's incompetency, but I think there is a larger politics. And it really comes through in the book with this word that she keeps using loyalty. You know, like I have to be loyal to Joe Biden. You know, it's the job of the vice. president to show loyalty. And actually, there's a further twist on this, which is that Biden himself

was loyal to Benjamin Netanyahu, which is also a misplaced loyalty. And he was not loyal to Kamala Harris. So what's the point? Why is it one way? Yeah, exactly. But that's what they want. I mean, this is a hierarchical party, a party that is averse to democracy within its own ranks, and which demands a one-way loyalty. I mean, you know, whether people read the book or not, I mean, I think that is the message that comes through. And there's actually, I will want to mention this. It's kind of like startling scene, which illustrates why she could not speak out against Biden, which is that it's, okay, so imagine it's the night of the debate.

And, you know, like Kamala Harris has been practicing for the debate. Her debate. Her debate. Her debate with Joe Biden, with Donald Trump, Donald Trump, the big night, you know, one of the, which she actually did quite well in, one of the big events where you can kind of reach people and change people's mind. And suddenly out of the blue, she gets a call from Biden. who she hadn't spoken with for a couple of weeks.

And he says, you know, hey, kid, how was it going? And she says, oh, you know, I guess he wants to cheer me up. And then he says, my brother, you know, you're going out to Philly because my brother's out in Philly. And he's speaking to some real power brokers in Philly. Now, by the way, that phrase power brokers in Philly is like, are we like Robert Moses here? Like I mean in 1970?

So some of these power brokers are a little bit concerned that you're not. not, you might not respect me and that you're not going to, you might put some distance between you and me, and your campaign might do that. And, you know, like, just, just be aware of that, right? So it's basically a veil threat, not even a bail threat. It's a threat, right? Like, if you criticize me in any way, if you put any daylight between you and me, I have enough support within the party. I have my own people who can, like, really mess. you up in a swing state. So she was like, you know,

this is the, you know, what Emma said, you know, like, loyalty is a one-way street. Yeah, you have to show loyalty to Joe Biden. And I think that, like, that way of organizing a party, you know, like, it cannot continue. Like, you know, like, we cannot. And I think Harris herself, I mean, interestingly, like she says, you know, like I always thought I had to work within the system.

And now I'm sort of seeing that that doesn't, you know, like, oh, the system is. breaking down and so you wrote that in your piece and i and her basically conceding i might not be right for this well i think that's hopefully first of all like you can see her instincts are bad like why does the cover look like john grisham like one of the best things she has going for her and i'll say that she's she's a beautiful woman put your face on the cover secondly why i sometimes struggle sometimes with like putting it on her is fully which i mean but this book tour is making it easier is the kind of a woman and particularly women of color that were elevated within the Democratic Party

were elevated within an extremely narrow permission structure that is evident in the weakness that she displays in the excerpts that I've read from the book. And she was picked in many ways because she was going to be a good soldier. She was not prepared to take on a leadership role. and perhaps if she were born in a later time in her life there would have been I mean what we see

the leadership from the squad and stuff like that that had to come from the grassroots but for many years the party elevated black and brown voices in many ways that wouldn't rock the boat and Biden's

racism and misogyny I think come through so much in his treatment of her and that's not to absolve her of things but he deliberately didn't prepare her undercut her ahead of the debate. And so I feel more sadness when I see her speak in public, because I feel she's a avatar of systems of misogyny, corporatism, and all of this stuff that has been a plague

in the party where she should never have even been in this position to begin with. Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. I mean, there's an element of real tragedy in her situation, which I was hoping to convey in the review. I mean, like, she was very mistreated by the... I think she even, like, only underplays it a little bit. Like, there's almost, like, she's giving hints. But it's very clear that they did... I mean, Biden did not want, really, to groom her to be his successor.

Like, they really went out of their way to undermine her when she was vice president. But, you know, like, it's also the case that, you know, she was the type of person that accepted that slot and that role for herself. You know, it's a chicken and egg situation. Exactly. Yeah, but I mean, more systematically, it is a problem with the party. That, you know, like that kind of, you know, a pro-system party that's very hierarchical, where loyalty is a one-way street, and where there's a real attempt to shut out any sort of party democracy.

I mean, I think one thing is that she also needed Biden because they didn't want to have any mini-primary. She needed that endorsement right away. And so, like, you know, like the original sin was really, like, not having primaries and, you know, Biden not stepping down. Or maybe the original sin was Biden running at all in 2020. But in any case, unless the Democrats are more of a real genuinely Democratic Party, where grassroots voices can rise up and are listened to rather than shut it aside, you know, Like, what sort of opposition they can provide to Trump? I don't know. Now, having said that, I mean, I think that the opposition to Trump is rising.

I mean, I think there's a genuine popular opposition. Despite. Yeah, despite this. And some of it, unfortunately, might take very disturbing and violent forms. But, I mean, that's what happens when you don't have, like, a legitimate democratic opposition that does its job. Can I ask one question to the group here is, how did the Democratic Party that has oriented itself more towards college-educated folks also at the same time become less aware of its history? Like, one of the main lessons of the Democratic Party of the last century. I just don't think the FDR.

I just don't think that people operate in that kind of. But so, like, okay, let me get drill in then. When it was said, and I was saying that Kamala Harris has the precedent of Hubert Humphrey, distancing themselves from the current president. and then benefiting from it, why do people say that's not relevant? I don't, well, I don't think it's relevant because I think there is a mentality based upon sort of, you know, that I think you can align with a certain ideology that is what Jeet is talking about in terms of like how I move up. You know, when we talk about seniority and we talk about loyalty and we talk about you,

you protect the person who is your crane essentially within a, and it's, you know, it's, It's less about the overall health of the enterprise and more about the success of the individuals within it. That is a corporate mentality that I think, like, is unquestioned within the context of, you know, there's a lot of money to be made in that campaign. And the people who are making that money are, they're not going to provide advice and perspective that is contrary to their, own either monetary self-enrichment or, you know, sort of like just in terms of like a career self-enrichment in some way. I don't think they think about it that way. But I do think that there, because they come from that ideology, their, their worldview is not to even, that's not

relevant because why would you do that to Biden? And Biden and even how Biden selected her. I want pick a black woman under i mean the it treating her as a cog in the machine and this is also how many women of her age in corporate america have had to get ahead so when sam describes it as this corporate thing that's what the party is that's what the party engendered and there's and that's when it's a court it basically functions like a corporation and not as a grassroots political movement where hopefully we're seeing some shifts yeah yeah to well to go back to like sort of like Matt's point, to expand on what you guys have been saying, I mean, I think there was a point at which the Democratic Party had social movements within it. It had the unions. It had people coming out of the civil rights movement, coming out of feminism.

But, like, you know, if you're college-educated, you know, like, one of the jobs of going to college is you learn how corporations work. And so I think as the sort of social movements have withered away or become less relevant, And as it has become that sort of, you know, professional managerial party of people who are college educated and went to college to learn how corporate hierarchies work and how you rise within corporate hierarchies, then of course you're going to get, you know, people who operate within this framework, you know, and part of that corporate hierarchy is the sort of, you know, fake diversity that you get. I mean, I think the one hope for the party is, you know, there are still social movements out there. And if they can, you know, make inroads in the party, they can provide a sort of challenge or alternative to this corporate model. Jeet here, natural correspondent for the Nation magazine and host of Time of Monsters, always a pleasure. And I also just want to say, folks should go and read your piece on William Buckley. and its review of Buckley, the life and revolution that changed America.

Yeah, I would actually, I mean, it's finally not the place to say it, but if you ever wanted to do a segment on that, because there's a lot to say about Buckley, and it has a lot of lessons for the contemporary moment, because the people who say, like, you know, well, why can't we have, you know, intellectuals like Buckley anymore in this age of Trump? Well, I got news for you, man. Buckley prepared the path to, you know, where we are now.

But I'll throw that out there. Gee, does the National Review allow you to access its full archives yet, or is that still sort of not allowable? I actually have gotten a sort of bootleg copies of National Review from like, I can't even say the sources. Graduate students have been doing scans, just like the Pentagon Papers. But they don't offer that, and I think that's going to tell you. Yeah, that's a review.

does not offer that. There's a lot of stuff. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, and if you had to go to the actual archives, there's amazing stuff like the, you know, the Birmingham, you know, the famous case where the church was bombed and four girls were killed, National Review's physician was that, well,

it could have been a, quote, crazed Negro that did this. So, for understandable reasons, they don't want to... The more things change, huh? Yeah, yeah, but rest assured, I have bootleg copy. of All the National Review. There you go.

We know where to go for the bootleg copies of the National Review and Kamala Harris' book. Jeet here, always a pleasure. Thanks so much, Matt. Great to be on. Thank you. Also, we cannot encourage Jeet enough to change the battery in his smoke detector. It is not normal. That is not the way that your smoke detector works.

There was a moment where we had a dog. chirping and barking in the hallway we've having some issues with the elevator rattling we had sirens outside and I I almost disassociated I can't I I do get very overstimulated but it's also my fear is that everyone in the audience is never going to watch us again when that stuff happens but hopefully you guys hang on no they can't get enough of it okay because for me it would be too oversimulating I'd be like I'm out for the what we really needed though was like a flashing light and every time his beep went off the light would go on.

All right, we're going to take a quick break and we're going to welcome in studio, RIM Brown. Who's going to be here in studio with us? We'll be right back. What's RIM short for? Nothing. Wow. See you in a second.

Just stop it. Thank you. We're going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be. You know, I'm going to be able to be. We are back, Sam Cedar We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland on the majority. your report it is a pleasure to welcome in studio rm brown from the rm brown show is that what you call

your show yep we will need you know how microphone do you know how microphones work i got to get it right okay that was my fault that was my fault no he's on yeah come on mad i'm a little bit loud am i loud bring can we bring me down a little we're not used to having someone who can project on the show. I'm a genuine professional in studio. Aaron Brown, tell us about the channel that you have. I do a channel on YouTube. They let me on there.

It's a pretty high bar to get on there. I went through all the process. So now I'm registered. It's all I'm legally on there. And I go on there and I say stuff. And that's, I think that's a really good. And are you a partner? I'm a partner.

Okay. I got it. I got in. I got in the partner program. Nice. It was a big deal. My mom called me the day that I got in. She's like, you did it.

This is what we've always wanted for you. Does your mom work at YouTube? She works at YouTube. Which is a conflict of interest. A little bit. The minute I got that partnership, people were like calling me out about it. I was like, it's not like. They called me Nepo, baby.

Uh-huh. Have you heard that? Of course Of course I have What is that? That's when your mom works at YouTube And you get a partner You get into the partner program

Lickety Split And I've been fighting that ever since My kids Say that they're NEPO babies And I'm like, you haven't done anything They're self-described Yeah, yeah She's like, I'm a NEPO baby

And I'm like, but NEP, you're just a student Like what? Right, she's not in media Like you haven't gotten a job Yeah, you're not, like, you need to get a job that I help you with. The kids have done something, because I don't want to reveal too much, but I was wandering around the studio. And there's a lot of kid art around here. And I love the kid art.

Over the years, I have accumulated a lot of art from my kids. I mean, it's basically worthless if you were to sell it, but yeah. I don't know. I mean, it is, but nobody sells their kids' art. You know what I love about it? We'll see. This has to be a younger one. There's one on the wall over there.

And I love younger kid art because it's kind of scary. It's a little bit like when they draw face. Well, it's a horror movie. A horror movie standby. Every horror movie has kids drawing sort of the monster in the first third of the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something ominous and terrifying about kid art. My kids are all like older than what this art would suggest by many years at this point.

But they both went through that phase, which I spent almost like I think 10 or 15 years in in drawing situations like where someone falls in a manhole into a sewer that is full of shards of glass and steel. Right, right. And you look at that and you're like, oh boy, is it scary? Is it some kind of like prophecy or something? I have a core memory of doodling and drawing like faces and doing it in fourth grade and my fourth grade teacher saying,

why do all these guys have big noses? Like they're the villain. And she said, you know, you might be a little worried that this looks like anti-Semitic art. And in hindsight, it really did. Who are your inspirations? I think it was like witches. Easy to draw noses big. Drawing witches, right.

But it did look like hate propaganda. Artis. And you were like very inspired by that. Everyone, everyone has their interests, you know. So let's talk. So, um, uh, you. you had a story that you were just walking around

New York City yesterday. This seems very on the nose, but I was just walking down a side. This is totally true. Walking down a sidewalk yesterday. And I was actually doing like a, you know, trying to do a story about this on my own channel. And I walked through like an

ice raid where they, it's all unmarked cars. They're like blocking off one of these like small streets, you know. And it's terrifying. It's terrifying. like that's the thing about that you know when you actually see it in person how like scary that is i mean they're they're also these guys seem like they don't know what they're doing like they're walking around like rifles in the street there's like families and kids walking around jesus and they just have

like vests on they they look like kids you know and uh yeah i'm gonna say i don't know about you guys I'm going to make a controversial statement. It seems kind of dangerous. Let's play this clip from number three. This is in Hyattesville, Maryland, just on two days ago. Ice guys basically tackle this guy in the middle of the road. And talk about sort of not being trained in a way. Like, they don't seem to know what the hell they're doing.

This was in Maryland. and the ice officer pulls a gun and then drops it. And incidentally, he's pulling a gun while he's got the guy pinned on the ground. It's just crazy. Watch this. Help me. Help me. Help me.

It's ice for a recompense. Pause it for a second. Just to tell people, that is the guy that they have tackled on the ground. He's yelling, help me. Ayuda, over and over again, the ice guy had the gun drawn while he's lying on top of the guy and then just put it back into his holster. I mean, it's, go ahead. Not even his holster in his belt.

In his belt. Help me. Help me. Hey, help me. Hey, help me, help me, help me. Hey, help me. Hey, help me. Help me.

Help me! Help me! Help me! Help me! Help me! Hey, let me! Pause for one second. I'm sorry.

Neither one of these guys seems to have any idea what they're doing. They can't manage to cuff the guy. The idea that you would take your gun and shove it in your belt while you're wrestling with this guy seems to be just, in terms of like training i can't imagine yeah that's not in the manual these guys seem to like dangerous they both seem like guys who um well i had uh you know i had the stocking and then i got the job recently these guys feel like they've been on the on the job for like three weeks mall cop dropouts

yep there's his gun falls out He's to die for his gun. And then he points in, like, pause, pause, pause, but that he is pointing it at the crowd of protesters. So, not even protesters, just like stand by, bystanders. Okay, yeah, right. Bystanders who are trying to videotaping. Videotaping, bearing witness, whatever. This guy's screaming, help me, help me.

And he dropped, he mishandles his firearm again and then points it at a bunch of people. And his glasses are like hanging off his face. As he points a gun out. crowd and you can hear people start yelling at him like put your gun down he starts to like he clearly realizes like i should not have my gun drawn he pointing at the bystanders or anybody but i'm too embarrassed to show that i'm actually listening to these but i mean this is just such a like he's prone shirt he's uh jesus and then and his partner has to draw his gun because he's Like, wait, maybe this guy that we're, it's just unbelievable.

$200,000 of taxpayer money to pay these guys to do this. I'm a narrative. Put the gun down. Put the gun down. She's stumbling all over this. You're going to shoot him. Put the gun. We have it.

Put the gun down. Put the gun down. What are you going to shoot me? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? Get out of here.

You're not wanted here. You're not wanted here. We got to on camera pointing the gun. Tough guy. Yep. I mean, it's just unbelievable that these guys are just like wandering around our cities now doing this stuff. There was a class action lawsuit in D.C. about these warrantless immigration arrests that was filed, I believe, yesterday. and there's this one excerpt that is just insane

because they're rounding of people who are American citizens too, not that that should matter, of course, but for a plane close on August 21st, an unidentified federal agents arrested one of the plaintiffs without a warrant while he was getting in his truck to work. They did not ask him for his name or identification

or his immigration status. He said he had papers, but they grabbed his arms and legs and called him illegal repeatedly. he responded that he has papers in other words immigration status they replied no you don't you are illegal after the agent put mr eskabar malina into a vehicle uh he told them again he had papers and the driver of the car yelled at him shut up bitch you're illegal uh a couple of people are noticing that uh apparently the uh the ice guy dropped this clip at his ammo he injected it

Scattering all over the book. Look at this guy. This is a guy. Same basic scene. This one is in Iowa City in a market. And again, it's just like these dudes, it's absolutely no idea. And, you know, good for people to just yell at these people and tell them that they're pieces of garbage. Hey, are you living?

I can videotape. I'm a combat back. No, I'm a combat back. Are you a... The worst is cops. Are you a cop? Are you ICE or a cop? Hey, are you ICE or a cop?

Hey, are you ICE or a cop? Tell 9-1-1-1. Hey, are you eyes for a cop? Gentlemen, you need to identify yourself. Hey, are you an eyes or a cop? You could be able to. Hey, Ayah, UNA! Are you a guy? Hey, ayah, man!

Are you an eye to a cop? Hey, hey, Yula! Hey, look at their face. Are you, I threw a fucking cop? Hey, Yula! Oh, you have me... Oh, my God. Now, they got the guy, they got this hands, and he's about to stun gun.

I got this on video. You won't even identify this. Gentlemen, who are you with? Who are you with? Federal agents. Who? My! All right.

Wow. You better not fucking know. Taze them. Call the cops. I need to see guys. Fucking pieces of shit. Look at their fucking faces. Can't even identify themselves. Piece of the fucking shit. Racist little back. Good for that guy who basically prevented them.

You know if he wasn't there with a video camera. I'm a combat vet. Afghanistan combat vet. Hey, what a fuck it. We're following you. You fucking piece of the shit. Yeah. Fucking piece of the shit.

Look at these motherfuck. Racist little piece of the shit. Hell yeah. He definitely, you're right, Sam. If he wasn't filming, they would have 100%. They don't charge that up unless you're going to use it. Oh, my God. And shout out, that's Oliver, or posted by Oliver Wheelan, Iowa City Counselor.

Great to have representatives willing to stand up in these moments. Well, also, I mean, Brad Lander has, while we're here, Sam, we have number two, right? Yes. This is just, Brad Lander has been doing a bearing witness down at 26 Federal Plaza, which is like the immigration. hearing a courthouse the here's another federal agent uh there's a clip actually before this okay um it's it's at the top of the thread if we want yeah um it is it's it's and this is uh coming from um uh tim pool apparently sending now the amazing thing is is that this is from this is uh tim's reported do you have it matt i have it right here um that that

that they obviously think that this is in some way, I don't know, makes them, makes, makes, makes ice look good. I mean, their audience loves this. Tim can't say whether or not he supports Mahmoud Khalil being deported or not. His audience loves this stuff. Yeah. Here, I put the link right here. And this is the moment where ICE is coming in and grabbing this father. of two young kids uh you can see them like shoving the kids aside shoving the wife aside

and god knows what they're doing when they when they pull them into the stairs because they put up uh you know they put up paper in uh to to hide the window there but watch this is disturbing stuff No, let's do you. They're clinging on. They're clinging on. They're clinging on. Let's get the nina. Sout the nina.

Surt the nina. Don't stay doing nothing. I'm not doing anything. No, I'm doing nothing. I'm not. I'm not saying anything. I'm not. I'm not doing nothing.

Look at these cowards here in the masks. Eric Adams, New York and Cuomo, if he wins. Look at that, look at that. See that paper they put up on that screen? And then the wife is distraught. And apparently, this is a perfect example of a guy who is fighting demons inside his own head. And instead of being able to, like, come to grips with what his job is and what he is doing to families, he gets angry and he's mad at himself

because he knows what he's doing is despicable and he takes it out on this woman. Watch this. Those are the kids, your daughter and son. Saying adios before he does that. He does that. He's out of the building now. Go on the building, go, go. That guy just snaps. She's literally, because she's begging him.

because he was a part of the federal agents that just broke her family apart. Oh, yeah. You can see he's the guy who is grabbing her hair in the first video. And these guys are just pigs. They're disgusting pigs. And honestly, there should be a, I hope somebody somewhere has a spreadsheet. All these people should be brought up on charges if there's ever a moment where there's any type of justice in this country. Track them like Nazis, fleeing rat lines.

Exactly. Exactly. It was crazy, too. When I walked through that, like, everybody had their phone up, at least. You know, people were recording it. But it's like, yeah, it shut that, like, the whole block that I was on, it just like shuts everything down. You know, like everybody, you can't, you know, when there's guys walking around with guns, you can't do anything. Right.

You know, so. And when, you know, Zoron hopefully wins in November. He needs to make sure and look out for any collaborators within like New York police forces that are going to try to go around the state here because there are a lot of fascists who enjoy this kind of thing and they have to be dealt with accordingly because this is going to be a legitimate state's rights issue in standing up to the Gestapo who are about to have their budget. tripled, tripled. And the detention budget is, like, something like a 300% increase or I'm maybe forgetting the exact percentage off the top of my head. Well, I know, look at the contracts, too. I'm going to get into the contracts and we're going to look through it.

And I decided who's the best people who get a contract. Thank you. Thank you, Tom. I didn't make out more than 10% of what you just said, but I feel safer already. You only got, you only get 5% unless I get $50,000. $50,000 is the rest of, because they make more sense than that. You get 25% for every $10,000. So much saliva in your impression.

It's true. That is one thing that I've checked on. I'm actually 99.9% saliva. This is also a very easy impression that can double as Trump when his dentures are out when he's making those calls from the toilet. That's true. RM, I heard that you brought some clips. Is that true?

You're well known for clipping things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I clip a lot of things. And, yeah, that's kind of my, that's my, you know, professional expertise I'm bringing to the show today. Right. R.M. looks at the feet and then finds its pulse. Exactly. You are like a professional zeit guide.

measure, right? Is that it? And not a taste maker, but maybe like a taste examiner. A taser. Observer. Observer, aggregator, isolator. It's like you don't make the water under the ground, but you carry the divining rod. It distills it. Finally, somebody, I didn't say it. Yeah.

You said it. Okay, thank you. These are very top. So what is this? Do you need to set it up or do we just play? I'm going to be totally honest. I don't remember. I don't know.

No, I don't remember, but let's check this. Oh, yeah, this is, uh, so I've been, I kind of have been really, my area of research lately has been sort of like Jesus on TikTok. Is that Laura Lumer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And do you speak, is that Portuguese, Portuguese? I believe so. Okay. Yes, I believe so.

All right. Well, I hope it doesn't say anything that, uh, is problematic. Yeah, if you're, if you speak Portuguese, you know, maybe put in the chat. Okay, so what should we do? Just run this? I guess just run this. Do you want to pop up? Okay, and this is a, an image of like an AI-generated nun.

Looks like the nun from that horror movie here. Yeah. Let's see what happens with her. I'm going to mute the music because it's going to. Oh, yeah, that could get. But it's Jesus starting going up to the nun, Chucky, and sort of telling them it's all going to be okay. It's all going to be okay. Because these are, I don't know if you guys know about this.

These are notoriously evil characters. The exorcist girl, their head goes the right way around. That's the it. That's the it clown. So it's Jesus giving a hug to sort of like. Jesus has been doing a lot of stuff on TikTok that I don't know. Oh, my God. I know what it knows about it.

Yeah, there's, there's the shining. And is that Freddie Kruger or? Okay, I don't know who that guy. I'm going to be honest. That might be a deeper. It looks like originally it's Freddie Kruger. and then the AI turns the mask into it. Okay, yeah, that's Jason.

It's Jason, right, yeah, sorry. And then what that's, I guess the mask goes away. Okay. The AI has sort of mask removal technology. Oh, wow. And then it's a human being underneath that. I kind of found this because, like, people were sending me, they were, like, immediately, this was happening with, like, Charlie Kirk stuff.

And I hope they don't do this. Jigsaw. It jigsaw. I mean, I think those guys, when Jesus came, they realized, what I was doing all yeah times was wrong right like jigsaw what shows that everyone can be sort of redeemed right

exactly and sometimes jigsaw did some bad stuff right and if you're not actually mass murdering people you're kind of in a better stance with Jesus than the other people in the video exactly and sometimes all you need is a hug yeah right anybody trying to hug any of those guys yeah I watched a lot of the

Friday the 13th movies I don't remember a lot of hugs you know and maybe we could have did anybody ever try and hug any of those like Chuckie or any of that no maybe that's what Netanyahu needs

Chuckie you know in Chuckie's defense he did have a knife a lot of the time so it's hard to go in for a hug you got to go behind you go behind yeah I would also just point out Emma mentioned Netanyahu all of those people have a lower body count than Netanyahu alone

so yes that's true totally but it is a little concerning to me how much I've started like joke sending my friends AI slop on on Instagram and now it's actually populating my feed and yeah that's not going to want to do that uh yeah there are people like I'm not going to name names but there are people that I know that they're in on the boomer side of things that have sent me not you okay uh that have sent me things like that I'm like how do you not know that this like it's actually kind of impacting their their brains has Sam sent you bray emma this serious i can't believe tim wals is doing this i can't believe tim wals is dancing down

this escalator like this why would i was shocked by that i was shot when i was on rogan the last time we we did an hour on that i see how exactly that was right um do you do you have any other clips or should we go to uh this clip i think i got oh let's go to this one because the other one i send is that this is sort of related to the ice stuff this is related to the ice stuff sam um about why they wear masks. Okay, yeah. This is Dave Rubin explaining the need for masks for ice thugs. He's still

around, huh? Dave Rubin is still around. Wow. In a way, good for him. He's a bit of an emeritus YouTuber. He only does like sort of the intro and outro segments and then just paste somebody else's content. Then he just tacks on Chuckie getting hugged by Jesus. Or Ben Shapiro

on Bill Maher. He's got twins. I, you know, I do I do have some sympathies. The twins, he's got a, you know, can we wrap this up in 15 minutes is what he's saying? And then he does it. But here he's done some deep thinking about the implications of having federally,

federal sort of quasi. They're not really police, right? Because they're really federal bounty hunters, essentially. And, you know, sort of a. a militia because you're not and and here he is explaining why they need to wear masks but the other part of all of this is the mask part because the ice officers the way the democrats are framing it is there are these masked guys who look like cobra soldiers out there

and they're taking orders from cobra commander indestro and doctor mindbender and firefly Going into G.I. Joe. Is that how we're thinking about it, guys? Like a G.I. Joe episode. Infamously, Tim Poole is a fan of looking through politics in this particular lens of, you know, Marvel or other kinds of movies. We do not think this way. I, listen, you know, dropping in a reference to explain things, but the idea that we, I don't even know who those guys are, but the idea that we think, like, the Joker or the Penguin. is sending out. No, actually, the biggest problem is that it's not the Joker and not the

penguin sending out these masked thugs. It's our government. That's the biggest problem about it. I don't look at Japanese internment thinking it was like the masked or I don't know, whoever. Right. If it was some type of evil Dr. DeZaro or whatever it is, then we'd be like, oh, okay, we need to have the police force deal with the evil Dr. DeZaro who's sending out these masked thugs. But no, the problem is it is our government that is sending out these mask thugs. That's exactly the opposite of what he thinks it is. But go ahead. But the other part of all of this is the mask part, because the ICE officers, the way the Democrats are framing it is, There are these masked guys who look like cobra soldiers out there,

and they're taking orders from Cobra Commander and Destro and Dr. Mindbender and Firefly, and I can probably think of a couple others. I'll work on it when we play the clip. And they're taking orders from them, and they're just running around, and they're masked because they're evil people. No, they are wearing masks because you lunatics keep going on television, telling everyone that they're evil, and they are concerned about their family. I don't know if you ever heard of Spider-Man.

or any other superhero, but why did superheroes, you know, when I was flying back from Charlie's funeral, I actually watched Avengers Endgame because I was like, I have to just not, I'd have to be able to not think for a little bit. Hold on, can we just take a moment and just acknowledge how insane that segue, that like one sort of tangent? Incidentally, I went to Charlie's funeral, and we seem to have exhausted our entire abyss.

ability on our YouTube channel to play clips of that and monetize it. So let me see if I can do it a secondarily way. Ooh, nice of dumbness. And just, you know, and I'm flying back. And of course, I watched a bunch

movies and I saw the Avengers. And that was a, oh, anyways, what was I saying, Spider-Man God? Or any other superhero. But why did superheroes, you know, when I was flying back from Charlie's funeral, I actually watched

Avengers. end game because I was like I have to just not I'd have to be able to not think for a little bit and end game's pretty good those last two infinity wore an end game pretty good but why do superheroes wear masks you know why superheroes wear masks and they always pointed out all the movies they don't wear the masks for themselves they wear the masks to protect their family right white man wore the mask not because he was afraid that green goblin was coming to get him green goblin was coming to get him either way he didn't want green goblin to rape auntie m Anti-M? Right, that was anti-M.

She was anti-M, right? Can you, are you fucking kidding me right now? You just threw a rape anti-M thing in there? In what scenario are we seeing like, oh, in Avengers Endgame? Yeah, I don't remember that. I don't remember that. Is the rape thing. Right, right.

God, do you just have to throw in a violence against women thing in there just to get the people going and remind people that even though you're a gay guy, you still hate women just like the rest of your audience? You know, he does have a big problem here, though, with Clark Kent and Superman. That's true. Maybe the ICE agent just needs to wear glasses. Well, he took his glasses off, which is the same thing. So the idea is that they're just trying to protect their family.

And so necessarily they're superheroes, it is so hard to go through history or at any other time and find examples of anything other than fictional superheroes who wear. mask to protect their family. Matt, do you have those clips from the slack, those other two that are right behind it? Sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Okay, go to where that clip was. I put two in there right after it as examples of this. Okay, play the first one first. Here's an example of some superheroes who are wearing masks because, of course, they're afraid of having their aunt sexually assaulted. Here it is right there. Yes.

This is in Ohio, and these, go ahead. Right here. Good. Oh, do you wave audio? Atic increase in similar incidents nationwide. Here's ABC's Reno Roy. Tonight, an Ohio community on edge after this group, masked and dressed in black, marched through the streets of Columbus Saturday, carrying firearms and flags with swastikas.

There's legitimate. Huh. Okay. Now, you understand why these swastika carrying gentlemen, because they're all familymen, and they're very afraid about their family and, of course, they're superheroes. I think also they're so proud of what they're doing that they want to be a little humble. Yeah. Right. It's not about me. It's sort of a, it's not about me kind of thing. Not me, uh, not me. Yeah, exactly. Now, listen, uh, of course, many of these movies, uh, the Avengers and, uh, Spider-Man, this all takes place contemporaneously or, uh, well into the future. Uh, but, you know, we have a rich past of heroes in this country wearing masks as well. Uh, these guys are not fictional characters. They're actually real. Let's play this. Oh, see that? He is, uh, he is, um, he's masked. He is directing traffic. Oh, and look at, there's the family. There's a little kid with a mask. They're all there. Oh, there's some handbags. They don't want to be sexually assaulted. And so that is why all of them there are a masked. Just another example of heroes wearing masks. He's not really, I would say, Dave, probably a pretty big superhero fan because there's a lot of villains that wear masks.

Like just looking at Dr. Doom, famous masks. Well, they're also worried about their family being raped. But would have been forgiven by Jesus. Scarecrow was really worried about the women in his life being raped. And one wonders why other police officers or fire, why aren't firemen wearing masks? Right. I mean, yes, they do it inside the fiery buildings, but they take them off when they come outside where people could find out who they are and their family.

Or is it perhaps that what they're doing, is so reprehensible that they are in fact not superheroes, they are in fact villains. And so they wear masks because they want to shield themselves from any type of accountability for the way that they work. Also, you know, there was actually a reason to wear a mask for a, I wouldn't say heroic, but for a kind reason that occurred over the past few years in the once in a lifetime, hopefully a pandemic that we lived through, which Dave Rubin was extremely against. So the mask wearing

where are we on the map of consciousness in the animalizing this right now? Different. Oh, okay. But fair enough. Yeah. So these,

if you see any of these chin diaper wearing guys. Yeah. Out there. Right. Make sure that you. Beta, very beta. Yeah.

I think, you know, calling them beta in chin diapers. Do they have, maybe ask them, like, have diarrhea? Why do you need to wear a chin diaper? That's a burn. That's a burn they won't recover from. Exactly.

Remember the Superman movie where he was like kicking his gun all over the sidewalk because he was trying to detain the guy? Superman is his Keystone Cops era when he was fumbling around. This is before they've gotten their powers back, right? The Superman's accidentally like... Yes. They don't have their full powers yet, a.k.a. the billions and billions of dollars of funding from the federal government to fund our Gestapo.

Which apparently is hate speech. I'm sorry, I shouldn't actually say that. J.D. Vance says as much. Did you just come with one clip? The other ones are so, they're stupid to the point of I think they will, I think they'll slow the show. I mean, this was previously covered on R.M. Brown's program. I believe this was. Maybe we've got it somewhere else.

Okay. Is this another example of this? Okay. So walk us through this. Oh, yeah. I watched PBD have a wonderful conversation with Nick Fuentes. Oh, right. about how, you know, Jews control everything.

Right. And, you know, PBD was good, hard enough to say, like, I would love to be able to control everything, too. So I'm not going to blame them. It was a, it was finally, you know, it was nice to see a calm, rational conversation talking about the different nuances of anti-Semitism. Half of that interview, too, he's like, hey, look, you're a smart guy.

You're so smart. You're so well-spoken. Let's just cool it on the racist stuff. Yeah, like, tone it down a little bit. That's kind of my whole bit. So what do I, if I don't have that, what do I? You're a great communicator, but you're communicating all this racism. Also, like, is he that?

I mean, you know, is he that great of a communicator? You can speak on camera, you know. I think I think the point that it's irrelevant and that his fundamental core brand proposition is racism and anti-semitism. Yes. You know, arguably homophobia, but it's not clear. He seems very confused about that. I think at one point, Nick Fuentes said that it was very gay to have sex with women, which is, and God forbid, he would not want to be gay. and so he apparently is

or claims to be asexual of my understanding of course anyways so here is a PBD and what's he doing what's he doing so this is them last week after Kenneth Owens makes this threat to TPSA saying if it goes in a direction that I don't approve of

I will go scorched earth and this is she goes scorched earth a lot she does he's kind of always scorched Made earth. Get a little closer there. I think that's her made earth approach. Yeah. And yeah, this is them.

They'll eventually go back to our favorite, the map of consciousness. Oh, yeah. The enemy of you, I don't, there will, there will be nothing that can stop me. Okay. And I want you guys to say, this is not a threat. This is a promise. There will be nothing. I got to ask this question.

I'm sorry. Who is she talking to? Why is the camera six inches? to her left like is she they switch shots sometimes I think she's talking to this is the two shot at Sam Hates

yeah that's like a very 90s thing right yeah it's horrible but at least the 90s thing they'll go clock like closer to like 90 degrees this is really just like eight degrees off of we should reach out they should go full 90s where it's black and white

hands held it's shaken I think what we should all do is just we should all talk like this, as if there's someone else in the studio that we're talking to. And listen, I appreciate you coming in and shooting this, but we've got another show over here that we're doing. This is the official camera. You can overhear me talking. Exactly. Make sure you get close to your mic. Okay, okay. Sorry. Okay. And I want you guys to say, this is not a threat. This is a promise. There will be nothing that can stop me. I will release every single text message. So to those of you who are trying that, I'm seeing the messages, I am telling you to back off right now.

Like right now, don't do it, okay? Don't you think about it. I know exactly who you are. I know exactly who you were that we're exerting pressure. Don't you pretend to be noble now and say nice things about Charlie Kirk and think you're going to slide into his chair. Okay? Over my dead body, which I'm sure can be arranged. what do you think what do you think she's saying

you think she thought of Shapiro okay so we're going to skip a little bit ahead now who is who's on there Eric bowling is there Eric bowling so to bring the mood down a little bit but here they are they'll go this is where they get into the map of consciousness I gotta say this is amazing because there's like four guys who look like just at different times during the day the same guy just at different times during the day

different levels of yeah she's used all her bullet so to speak. I'm trying to see what you're saying. What's your point here? Tell me what you're saying. I'm saying she is angry and venomous right now. And that is not a person that you want to mess with. She's capable and she's filled with rage. That's all I'm saying. Do you think

on the Power versus Force chart? I'd love to see what Pat thinks about this. Rob, if you could pull that up. Power versus force, please show me where you think Candace is operating out. Vinny, what do you think she's at? Show the chart. On Power versus force, what do you think she's at? I love he's looking at it. We just did

this at the vault. If I had to where go to the third level right there. What is going on here? Like how much money do they get every time they show this? This is just the most bizarre and they get it from the same place. Honestly, this

map of consciousness, what is it? Well, this is where I get. I just Google image map of consciousness and then see what comes there. There is I would bet everything I own that they use this map of consciousness as a tool and what you know what pbd's business is his main business is um business consulting and he has like

40 guys working for him maybe more uh in a building that's right uh across like it's on like this airstrip and like right across it working in this building doing this and i'm convinced they must use this map of consciousness as a business consultant thing and They do this as a way of, like, giving it legitimacy. I could see that. I could also just see them being so emotionally stunted that this is the only way they know how to categorize. You may be right, Emma, but Matt, could you go, could you, why don't you pull up the, the Major Report trucker hats?

And let's take a look at that and see if that gives us some answers to what we're looking for. Because that is one of the ways that we can divine what's going on is by looking at a Majority Report trucker's hat available in two different colors. I'm feeling kind of keychainy right now. I don't know if that's... No keychain. Pull up the Majority Report merch store. And we will figure out what's going on here.

We should sell mood rings that tell people which part of the map of consciousness they're on. That's really good. She's angry. She's in anger. Yeah. It always ends up there. She's angry, which a lot of people are. So she's below the, what do you call it?

Which is not a bad thing. Guess what? I fluctuated all over this damn thing. But I think, Adam, because you know what she's talking about for this Ben Shapiro. You think that's not a bad thing? No, I didn't say it's a good or a bad thing. I just said where she's at. I think it's not a bad thing.

You think, I'm saying, so you think at a timeline. This is kind of like maybe the thing I like about PVD is that these are all also like sales tricks. Like, it's like, oh, I got this thing from an ebook that if I don't. I want to, like, keep somebody on the phone for an extra 30 minutes. I go to the map of consciousness, and we have something to talk about, you know? That's, like, the funny thing about his show is it's supposed to be a politics show, but it's really like a sales, term sales show. And it's also, like, yeah, like, get out of any sort of realm where you might turn off the mark that you're trying to, like, change their mind on.

And it's funny. They're going to, I'm losing them. They subject the map of consciousness. They subject Vinnie to it. Like, it's like, we're going to go to the map of conscience. Vinnie, tell us what you think about there. Because Vinny's, like, been the one guy. I was like, I'm kind of upset about Netanyahu and all this stuff.

So I was like, well, Vinnie, are you sure you coming out that from a good spot? How much is involved in your ego in that? I mean, favorite thing is that they couldn't tell that she was angry just from listening to her. Right. We've got to pull up the map of consciousness to read. The whole map of consciousness and all they come up with is anger. Yes. Mm-mm.

So insightful. That's kind of every time because they're watching a clip where somebody's, you know, like getting mad about something. They're like, map of consciousness. I'm angry. Angry. And that makes you less conscious. What would I thought? Should we do that?

Should we score ourselves on the map of consciousness? Yeah, we can measure, let's go through this. And we'll all see where we are on the map of consciousness as we listen to this. Yeah. Let's see. Kind of apathy right now. Okay. I would say apathy.

Apathy. Maybe neutrality. Are we on emotion? I'm a little mad that I don't get my own second. I got to be crammed next to Emma. I know. So that would be, let me go. I got it would be tragic.

Oh, it's tragic to sit next to me? Yeah, it is. Well, now I'm in the anger portion of emotion. Oh, man. Okay. So that's how they enter, they kind of interact. They want to get a dominant. Emma, don't you think that you're in vindictive right now?

And the problem is you're in the red. It's a force. Yep. And it is you are, you're in force. Yeah. And that's a, you know, you're in the red zone. That's very difficult. Really, what you want to get up to is somewhere like joy, bliss, of serenity.

In fact, honestly, there shouldn't, this map is too expansive for me. They really just need to cut out all of the other elements. God view, life view, level, maybe keep scale and definitely keep emotion. But I have no process. So for women, it's just scale and emotion. My process is, I'm at level 540. I'm a, my process is transfiguration. my emotion is serenity.

You do read that, yeah, you do give transfiguration for sure. My life view is complete, yeah. Wait, why? Oh, you believe in one God, too. Why is it so top-heavy? Why is it so top-heavy with the scale? It's going in these intervals,

and then you can be like at this incredible scale of pure consciousness at the very top from 7 to 1,000? It's just like a video game. It takes more XP to level up the higher you get. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was hoping they would use SAT scoring. Are there purchasables on the thing? Can I just... In-app purchases? Yeah, in-app purchases. I just want to buy bliss. And where is the part about being in the bathroom for 20 minutes? I can't find that one on there.

All right, go ahead. What she's talking about, for this, Ben Shapil. You think that's not a bad thing? No, I didn't say it's a good or a bad thing. I just said where she's out. I think it's not a bad thing. You think at a time like this, it's good to be there? I do.

Tell me why. I think we need to be there. Tell me why. Because the left will tell you, let's go back to unity, let's tone things down. Yeah, sure, because you didn't just have one of your biggest, most influential human beings on your side assassinating cold blood. It's not time to take the tone down. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. Eric's on the wrong part of the map of consciousness, it looks like.

Oh, man, he's red zoning right now. Totally. He's out like a 50 max. What's interesting, though, about this slightly is that what's the guy's name on the left? And that's not Vinny. Saddick, Adam. Adam. He's the big, big pro-Israel defender. He's the one who threw a tampon at Anna Kasperi because he brought up Israel. Right. I forgot about that.

Nice new friends she's got over there. It's interesting because Candace Owens was going after Bill Ackman in that monologue, right? So what she's alluding to and the accusation is that there is a war for the future of TPSA. Erica Kirk, I would imagine, is some sort of figurehead, but they're wondering. which part, I don't mean to besmirch, you know, the former Trump model or whatever. But they are trying to see which direction or all this is all this, you know, money, this infrastructure going to go. Is it going to go with, sorry, Ben Shapiro, who has basically said, I'm making DailyWire

a $1 million donation to TPUSA. Oh, it might be bigger than that. Isn't that what he said? And I'm like, isn't Daily Wire in dire financial straits? Well, it's an investment. It's an investment. So is it going to go in the Ben Shapiro mode of a more, like, still establishment Republicans? It was a million, yeah.

Or is her, his Charlie Kirk's girly, Candace Owen's going to take it over and have the anti-Semitism slash anti-Zionism take over. And I'll just say since this happened, Candice Owens has been going, and you've probably seen this even more, I guess, scorched earth or insane, like peddling random conspirators. She's examining a lot of video footage. Yeah. For sure. She's doing a lot of that. Which I thought, like, maybe she would take a little bit of time to get to, but I guess she's probably. Well, you know, those clicks aren't getting themselves, you know, I guess.

Agesting violence, I'm not suggest to take the tone down. I'm not, I'm not suggesting violence. I'm not suggesting violence at all. When I'm saying, stay pissed off, stay angry. I went. It looks like everybody else thinks he is. I had a law. I lost a child in college.

I was bowling ousted for misconduct? Yeah. Ah. Still kicking, though. There's always a, uh, there's a second life for these guys. Third life, fourth life. But cancel culture. Um, let's see.

What should we, uh... Oh, uh, I mean, seven is pretty great in my view. Okay. Um... That's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Our new friend, Jennifer Welch, who was on on Tuesday, just... Oh, I've seen her.

She's awesome. She's funny. She's great. She's funny. She's making me laugh. She's, I mean, got great politics. And he's conducting an interview in a much better way than you're going to see 99% of journalists, specifically on mainstream media. Because this is a compilation.

I encourage people to check out the full interview because they, the, I think this is at chaotic leftists on Twitter. Or whoever put this together, cut out his, or I guess it's on TikTok. Either way. cut out his responses because he's just filibustering. But listen to how many times... Wait, and this is the lieutenant governor of where? Of Georgia. He's running for governor in Georgia.

He's a Republican. And I guess he went on their show, interestingly. And she just completely hammers him or won't let up on will you take APAC money? Will you take APAC money or have you taken APAC money? I'm not certain if I've taken it or not. I've run, I've been in an office 10 years. I doesn't jump out at me as I'm taking it. But I think the most important part is.

Will you for this race? I have no idea. I haven't even thought about it. Okay, come on, Jeff. This is like there's a genocide going. He was a Republican until like very, very recently this year. So I'm sorry for getting that wrong. And he's running for a Democratic, he's running for the Democratic nominee as governor.

Yes. Yes. and corrected. That's why he's going on their show. I've been in office 10 years. It doesn't jump out at me as I'm taking it. But I think the most important... Will you for this race? I have no idea. I haven't even thought about that.

Okay, come on, Jeff. This is, like, there's a genocide going on right now. And, I mean, and even human rights, Israeli human rights groups see this, that the United States of America is funding. To see these kids starving. And to not know if you're going to be beholden to the Israeli lobby, is to me is not something that should take time to think about because you started off this interview

with us talking about your faith. Will you take APEC money in this race? I have no idea. I haven't even thought about it. Wow. Okay, I want to take that moral clarity that you have right there and then ask you again, are you going to take money from APEC? Because just there, you talked about an APEC is what help. They gave Trump over, I think, 200, 300, million dollars are you going to take money from a group that lobbies to deny that that's happening to those children i'm not going to give you the the shallow answer of saying yes or no because you can have moral clarity to talk about the starvation the famine and the genocide then it's a very easy jump to then just say across the board you wouldn't believe how popular you'd be jeff

you just wouldn't believe how popular it be if you said i am not taking money from apache we'll certainly continue to look at it but look i hope that you do Jeff, I wish you the best of luck. I hope that you can report back to us sometime soon that you've thought about these APEC donations and that you will not accept them and partner with them in this because I think that you will have so much more credibility. And how uncomfortable did I make you? I was kind of all in. She should bring up the map of consciousness for him.

Is obfuscation on there? I mean, his answers, it was like fully six minutes, we couldn't play the whole thing. But the way he dodges and tries to make the traditional. politician thing it was just phenomenal i look at i like that it's something i'll look at i'm looking at a shallow answer i'm looking at some of his fundraisers and the uh i don't even know if a pack is on there and he may not know but the value of this is it signals to other um uh candidates like this is toxic yeah this is radioactive there's no point me taking this money because it's going to be um it's going to cause me problems it's it's the same thing

that having Torres on Adam Friedland's show did, which is it ends up signifying to politicians. Because I understand, like, they're just put their fingers up in the wind and on this kind of stuff. Although there's obviously a huge sort of like artificial, like a fan blowing in one direction. Yeah. But when the fans, when the wind starts going the other directions,

it's really helpful stuff. because you know nobody's out there going like she's a you know some uh you know green haired uh right right no nose piercing uh you know college student who's doing this yep it's it's literally like she was good she's she's good at like not letting up either she i like the uh oh yeah i was trying to count the follow-ups it was like something like six or seven and she just and and then her co-host would ask a question then she just kept coming back being like, Jeff, you didn't answer my question. I mean, it's amazing.

It really is. She's got a great BS detector. Not to sign up to Jennifer too much, but that's actually what independent media should be doing. Uh-huh. Is she in Georgia, too? It is impressive that she has that space where she can get people on there and they just don't expect that it's coming.

Right. Yeah. Might be the southern accent. Maybe there's something like sweet about this is like, oh, it'd be fine. then she gets you. I think they see Oklahoma and they assume like Blue Dog or something like Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's also

kind of why Slot King went on breaking points, remember? Because she thought it was a conservative and a liberal and like that it would be a down-the-middle show. That was what it seemed to be the kid. And didn't realize, no, that's not what you're getting with Crystal

in particular. That was great. I guess we're doing a freebie Friday. Oh, yeah. Whoa. I can't believe we're giving Ren Brown for free to anybody. That's we're undercutting a huge business failure. Oh, let's let's, we could go.

Do you ever go to concerts? Very rarely. Why? I feel like, I don't know. I feel like I'm. getting too old for it, maybe. I don't like standing up that much. You know, it's a lot of standing up.

It is a lot of standing up. Yeah. They're a little expensive these days. Oh, they're going to see live shows. But did you realize they're undervalued? Ooh. Remember, Live Nation Ticketmaster was the subject of a lot of antitrust stuff and a lot of FTC stuff during the Biden administration. and you, there's a time to reap and there's a time to sew.

And this guy is finding this is the time to sew. Here is the CEO of Live Nation Ticketmaster with his perspective on ticket prices. For you, music is a better business, though, than selling tickets for sports, I assume. Yes, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I think music has been underappreciated. You know, always joke.

sports, it's like a badge of honor to spend 70 grand for a Knicks court side. They beat me up if we charge 800 for Beyonce, right? So it's a real, we're, it's a very under, we have a lot of runway left, right? So when you read about the ticket prices going up, it's still, average concert price is $72. Try going to a Laker game for that. And there's 80 of them or whatever the hell. So the concert is underpriced, has been for a long time. Underpriced, unbelievable.

Wow. They beat him up for $800 a ticket. I mean, this is one of the most insane monopolistic practices in the country right now. And Lena Kahn knew this. The United States, or I guess this was the Department of Justice, so it was probably Jonathan Cantor, right? Either way, the Biden administration sued Ticketmaster at the time because they do a few things. One, they own their own reseller, so they take a cut out. of the initial sale and then get another cut on the back end when it's sold at an insane markup.

They also use this thing called dynamic pricing, which basically fluctuates based on demand and it uses algorithms to make that determination. But the baseline is already so high because of their monopoly that they're just inflating upon an already insane amount of money that they're making. And they've taken over almost every venue. Yes. Yes. Venues that we have done shows at, much less fun to engage with now that they are a live nation. I'm not going to say, you know, but, I don't know, rings a bell. You had that chart and I actually think I saved it on my desktop for future reference, like a little dork. Yeah, the consumer spending chart that we showed, Sam,

on how for, it's basically the only top 20% of the country right now that is increasing its consumer spending and the 80% below is at the consumer price index meaning it's matching inflation that's what tickets have become that's what like concerts and shows like what the only way i get to shows is i ask for christmas i ask for stubbub uh gift cards and i accumulate them and then try to get great seats but otherwise like i mean i was looking at these lady gaga tickets there's no way i can go to that are you kidding me because of the dynamic pricing the shows and sports events, especially in big cities like this, have unfortunately become luxury goods for the top 20% and they, that's how, you know, also the ultra wealthy feel

like they have a connection to culture and personality through these curated experiences. I was thinking of that. I walked by like a Tame Impala poster. I've been listening to them a lot recently. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay, they're coming in December. And I was like, okay, let's see. I look it up. No, I'm not going for that. right so yeah that that chart that's what it's got a bunch of right this is where I brag that I'm a little more savvy because all of my favorite musicians are from the early 90s you're going to see Fugazi $5 exactly not going to raise that price ever exactly Ian McKay's a 80 years old now exactly and the show is at 6 p.m.

and I'm back at home by you know 738 and it works Do you remember any, like, 90s shows that didn't cost a lot of money that you got into? You were like, that, wow, that was the, that was the peat. That didn't cost a little on money? Or whatever. Back in the day, these, these, like. Yeah, what prices were you seeing Husker do for? No, Sam saw Nirvana, which makes me want to cry.

Like six bucks or something. I don't know. It was just like in a club. And there's an old clip of Kurt Cobain talking about how he would never charge, like, more than $20 for his ticket. Yeah, I don't know. It wasn't a much. and um but i i during the 80s in the night

half the 80s in the 90s i would go to uh shows at the centrum in worcester is now a named something different but i saw like bruce and uh prince and it was all like you it was probably like you know if it was 35 bucks i would have been like whoa but uh i'm gonna splurge for this now of inflation, but that's still... No, yeah. That's not $800 in 1980, you know, in today's dollars.

And this was like over 10 years ago, but I saw Louis C.K. at Madison Scored. And, of course, you know, Louis, different time now. But what I loved about what he was doing then was he, I think, banned resale. And my friend and I were able to see him with great seats at MSG for like 50 bucks each or something like that. But artists could make these decisions, but in part, not to go down another wormhole, but these big artists are not, not even big artists, artists are not making money on sales of records anymore because streaming has destroyed the model.

So artists are not, are complicit in this, but they're also needing to make their money on tour. And that's part of why they're not challenging the ticket master monopoly in meaningful way. So I guess it might be different for comedians or whatever or comedians that care, but for artists, the streaming model, Spotify, has really hurt their business model. So they do it this way and it rips off fans and it makes it this elite experience that people can't bring their families to or whatever. Scott Egg and Cheese Basant on the IM says this is exactly what Eddie Vedder saw coming and tried fighting, fighting inches early 90. I don't know what that means. Eddie said every time he got a commitment from an artist to join.

the fight ticket master would buy them out yeah i'm not surprised by that there used to be a thing at south by southwest two or would be like well now it's like you know to get a badge to go see these like musicians it's like prohibitively expensive you can't do it so there's like this class tier where the badge holders are just like tech guys or whatever and then but some of the musicians will do something secretly at another venue they'll like arrange that and then like normal people can go to that and even that I don't think they are like able to do anymore yeah so it's like this weird like

tiered thing where like the badge holders are like the I get to run to the back okay you guys oh we'll just keep uh how would I read some I ends we're taking over the show I just make one point about that um does he not know his business

like the why do people go pay that much money for sports games is because they're actors and one up here on TV and all right and all Also, sported events, like even in Bismarck, the sort of Dakota Wizards, the minor league basketball team that I used to love, that's corporate. It's corporations to give gifts to the people who want to go to the games. That's not really something you do with concerts.

Oh, my gosh. Go to the Beyonce concert. That was that cold play guy who got caught cheating. Right. Well, yeah, you see that they're not used to it yet. The sporting events aren't known like, hey, let me make sure. those people are having an affair Exactly

Cleflow Kreflow half dollar Who was Kreflow dollar Prosperity Gospel Okay right right Me and my friends got to see a pre-famous Rihanna in 2007 At a $10 a ticket

Brookdale Community College Crazy That's insane what a great story I mean I saw all of these I saw a muse for less than The $80 ticket that he saw That was more expensive If it was the Target Center show

it was probably like 60 bucks for the pit but like when I was seeing indie bands in like 2009 2010 it was always like 35 bucks for a concert venue in Minneapolis yeah I went to an LCD sound system thing like a couple months ago I think I

paid I mean I was like this is a huge actually kind of a dent to go see this tie worm Taylor Swift needs a couple more billion before she speaks out she's already her producer has spoken out already, actually.

Like, Taylor Swift, I mean... No, she has not spoken out. Taylor Swift has the worst dynamic pricing of every artist. Or at least her price on her producer. Let me see what that headline was. So is that literally... She's actually the worst offender. If you check in and then you come back like in an hour, it'll be like a different price.

Yes, yes, yes. And I love Lady Gaga very much, but she's also has embraced dynamic pricing, which she and other artists that are that rich should be leading the way. It was an aunt enough that Right, no longer her producer No longer her producer. We're going to start doing that for the member show on this thing too. We'll just see.

Dynamic pricing. All right, should we do one more? Yeah, we could do that. We could do the Comey indictment, which I think probably we should get to. What is the Megan Kelly thing about? Megan's, she's worried about witches. She's doubled back to the Etsy witches.

Okay, well, we got R.M. here, so let's do that. Because I know you spend a lot of time in the occult and witches. Oh, my God. She had a priest on. Whoa. Yeah, you've got to do an exorcism sort of through the media. Is this guy really a priest? Because he looks like he plays a priest.

Yeah, on the USA Network. Right. fit there yeah i mean honestly i cannot imagine like hey listen i don't have a huge budget but i need i need a set uh i need a set that looks like a priest's office can you do this and how quickly can you get it together duct tape on the call don't worry about i i don't care you're blocking the window with the bookcase it's we just need to do this it's just the catholic church the catholic church got in on these SM7B deals too. Exactly. He looks like

somebody who would be cast in law and order SVU as a priest who's giving like they're walking and talking through the church, giving pertinent information relevant to the investigation. A lot of exposition from this guy, exactly. Stories is I believe about

if I can get the details right, about a young man who, oh, is that, you know, kind of like a birthday party, some kind of celebration. Wait, can we go back just a little bit? What is he talking about? Yeah, so we actually, the clip we have actually wasn't going to include much of him but we can get a little bit of taste of what he's talking about here

oh to God a person who's reasonable would say but I'm just playing and I would say I completely playing with you know Etsy witches oh I'm just playing around I see yeah so okay Luigi board sort of thing right right right of course and then I would say at the same time

at the same time you remember the movie The Exorcist of course yeah how can you forget it so that story is based off of two true stories and um one of the two stories is i believe about if i can get the details right about a young man who oh is that you know kind of like a bird i just want to say if these were actually true stories wouldn't you have the details pretty ready to hand that like a demonic spirit right i mean it's he's circling around them i mean i get it like it's like me with teapot dome i'm not i have a feeling that the part of

the neck uh the head spinning on the head probably not true no that is true he would say that is true but the part of a child who was sick oh that's probably true and i would not be surprised if two priests went there and go well the kid has the devil in them good birthday party some kind of celebration of some start with kids and they just busted out the Ouija board and just played for fun but that was an entry point for what ultimately became a possession oh okay wait a second i just need to take that in this is the part of the story you're not going to believe um not the part about the possession but how they got there wigi board oh right yeah that that's what that's what that story is Not trying to edify the fact that a possession is real, but that sometimes it comes from a Ouija board.

You know the thing that Hasbro has the trademark for? Yeah, exactly. This was the problem. There were no possessions, and we didn't have to do exorcisms until board games. Yeah. When shoots and ladders came out, this was a real problem. Oh, yeah. Operation.

Yeah. But you would be surprised at how many different sectors of our economy are invested in witchcraft. I mean, the publishers of Harry Potter, for one, some of the most complicit. Well, that's the weird thing is a lot of the right wingers were the type of people saying you couldn't read Harry Potter like 10 years ago. And then she came out as anti-trans. And now it's like, I guess, patriotic to read about Hogwarts. I mean, Etsy's literally doing business with witches and allowing them to profit off of their website. The new deal had witch regulations that.

have been stripped away, and now you got the free market, which has been sold their witchcraft on Etsy. Right. You're playing with fire, messing with this stuff. There actually are demons in this world. Calling up the spirit world, in particular the devil's spirit world, can actually have real world consequences. It's not something to mess with.

Many Christians believe this. They're wrong. This is dangerous. It's not a game. It's literally evil. Second, this is what I really want you all and the people at Jezebel and Etsy to know. Erica and Charlie Kirk heard about these curses, and that news genuinely rattled Erica in particular. She knew Christian teaching on the subject.

She loved Charlie, absolutely. And she was scared. when she heard of the curses Jezebel had called up So much so So I like how she's saying Jezebel too And like bringing it into her biblical

The Jezebel's You know Jezebel is like a Mag, it's a feminist kind of what offshoot of deadspin If I'm not correct? Yes, it's in the same sort of umbrella And they're using that term

Ironically Right It's called Jezebel because it has a feminist bent and they're making fun of it's because they like being loose women yeah and then she's like they're calling themselves

Jezebel's casting her you're so proud that you're so slutty it'd be funny if she was like yeah this this spirit stuff is no joke I got one in the studio I think people are writing in people are writing in

like she doesn't get that it's ironic she's admonishing witches for putting a spell on people and it being rude. I get the feeling she might know and it's a little bit of a performance. She's also the person who made a big stink about

how Santa Claus was like the idea of a black Santa Claus like what? You're not going to get presents. Like article at one point where they go into this thing like look we don't really want any real harm but maybe like his shoes are too big. Did you hear that?

Oh, I missed that one. They explain. They're like, is a goofy joke, and she, like, keeps going for some reason. Well, Satan, be careful what you wish for. But maybe she actually, now that solves something, she genuinely thinks Santa's real, too, in addition to demons. Oh, yeah.

That must be it. Yeah. It's the spirit realm. That she and Charlie contacted a friend, who I believe she said was a Catholic priest, but definitely a friend, and asked him to come over and pray with them over Charlie the night before he was murdered. I don't believe this, but. She eventually won't do you keep her up there, but...

And so did Charlie. They brought in a priest just for the Jezebel, Etsy witches. Yeah, the witch curse from the Jezebel blog, where they contracted with some Etsy witches. Apparently... No, I know, but I'm saying, like, they brought in the priest specifically for that. I find that hard to believe. And, you know, and I'll just say... And I find it hard to believe that they did, and it didn't work.

That's what I wanted to point out, is clearly these witches are more popular than or powerful in Christ. No, I think honestly, they're doing huge numbers on Etsy. Somebody's got to talk to that priest and see what they, like if it was a, you know, a scam. I actually have Catholics in my family who bought a new house and invited the priest over in the first week

to have dinner and bless the house. And the night after, the night the priest left, a window, or not a window, a picture fell off of the wall. They just moved in, so maybe I think, Maybe you didn't put it in correctly, but my family thinks the house is hot. Well, I think the real question is, they support a Trump. I think the real, I think the real question is like how well does the hot water heater function?

Like, is there, the doors, you know, like, is there a leak? The floor creek. Now that we think about it, should we be looking into demonic presences in this office? There's some spooky stuff going on. Like, you know, the plumbing's out like once a month. Yeah, sometimes the power goes out too. They should be, like, there should be a guy who does, like, those examinations of, like, your septic system, but also demon. Like, he'll check for demons, too.

You have not watched enough junk television because there are TV shows about this kind of thing. Oh, man. Hell yeah. That as she later told me, weapons will form, but not prosper. That Satan and those witches have no power. Of course, God's will is the one that matters, and his blessing over Charlie was real and powerful. all you had to do is spend time with charlie to know that but why torture a family like that yeah god when charlie was saying uh the civil rights act was bad uh god's grace was just washed over him

yes a christian believing family why do this vile thing to a young couple parents to two babies living in accordance with the gospel deeply in love yes political but doing nothing other than speaking publicly about their views and their desires to make other people's lives better. Who would do such a violent thing? They had a professor watch list, incident where they had hundreds of professors

that they would harass and try and get fired. Right. That's just a low-hanging fruit. But obviously, no one deserves to be shot. But I think that, like, you know, having websites and blogs, you know, put curses on you is probably just, you know, the way that it's the free market, right? So I thought, you know, if you get a curse, then you go on Etsy and you find someone to undo or, or fight against that curse. Connect, too, I think you can connect.

If you go on Menect, you can get the curses reversed. Yep. I think there's more on this. Now we're good. well um you know what we got to do wrap up here i got i get a i get a doctor's appointment um go into detail about what you're uh i'm having a little eye issue oh yeah blurry bring us back matt right right where it's not yeah yeah we're still yeah megan kelly um all right let's read a couple iams and then uh we Lauren hobert uh immigrants are disappearing from Alligator's alley

in the same way the Jews are disappearing from Auschwitz. Texas Tanky, any chance of the visit with Erdogan preceding this clip had any influence on Trump's reversal in the West Bank? I got to think that it is, I mean, because he had said this like a day or two before, too. I got to think it's like has to do with the Saudis, like some business deal. Oh, yeah. Right. Really cool.

Like, oh, sorry, just really quick. The Miriam Ayleson Mani's in the back, in the back, in the rear view, mirror. What have you done? Right, and that's for his campaign. He doesn't give a crap about that. He wants money in his pocket, and that's what the Qataris and the Saudis can give him. Yeah, Miriam didn't give me a plane. Not bad, Aaron.

Having been to the West Bank many times, the difference between Area C and Israel proper is nil. The West Bank is de facto annexed. Trump's saying no to de jury annexation allowed on the ground, slow drip annexation indefinitely. Allie from New Hampshire, my husband, best friend, and I discovered it was cheaper to drive seven hours from New Hampshire to Buffalo, stay in an Airbnb to see Chapel Rhone last summer than to see it closer to in Boston. Yeah. Whoa.

People do that. Audio snob. Can we get a low pass on the 12K? I don't know what that means. That's, I think, about Jeets. bogos binto does jeet have a stub stack or something where we can send him money to get a replacement battery for his uh smoke detector and uh two more fools errand my dog is upset with jeet here and his smoke he's making everybody's dog go crazy with that that beep i can't muddy mo uh this map is their

version of horoscopes and the final i am of the week Sharts McGee. Speaking of cash grabs, check out the Riyadh Comedy Fest lineup. Oh, I did see that. Yeah. There's like 30 comedians, some that you like, some that you don't. Yeah.

I mean... Bill Burr's the main disappointment. Yeah. Yeah. What's up with that? From the perspective of a comedian, I mean, I would not do it. I just want to make that clear. And I'm not letting anybody off the hook.

I know the mentality, and they're like, I'm getting asked to go, like, if I went there on my own, nobody would care. Well, but that's sort of a point. But I would, my other part is like, I don't like white Westerners acting like we have some sort of like moral, uh, leg to stand on in this current moment with Saudi Arabia. Yes, obviously the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, the way they treat you slave labor or, uh, whatever. but it's just like we're committing genocide right now so although I will say that Pete Davidson performing is kind of crazy because his dad died in 9-11 Oh my God, I forgot about that

And they're performing on the anniversary of the Khashoggi Butchery So he was on Theo Vaughn, I wonder if he dressed that That would be interesting to see Pete Davidson talk about that Seems weird It seems a little rough I mean they were pretty responsible for 9-11 Which killed your dad

All right. Shut up. I'm leaving the guy to be. Matt, Brian at absentia, Emma, great job this week. RM Brown,

where can people find you? Oh, yeah. Check out the RM Brown YouTube channel. Also, I was asked to say that Francesca's doing a show

October 13th. Where? In New York? New York. New York City, Billhouse. Didn't hear about that. That's interesting.

Guys didn't hear about that. That is weird. That is weird. I guess I'm better friends with world. She's upgraded her. friends. Wow.

All right. Hmm. Sorry, guys, it's sold out. We don't have any... Awkward. Yeah, we don't have any plus ones left. Oh, okay. Well, that is weird.

All right. Well, okay. Catch you later. October 13th, Francesca is doing a show at the... In our backyard, basically. Yeah. I also have a quick plug. I'm probably going to have to actually...

I'm not sure, I guess, of my plans to go to the Bell House that night for a drink. I'm going to have to cancel because it's obviously There's a show going on there That I'm not allowed to go in On Monday Myself and David Griscom We'll be phone banking with DSA To encourage members to sign up for solidarity dues

You can sign up at DSAUSA.usa.us slash LRP That will be at 6 p.m. Eastern Monday. Let's put a link in the podcast of YouTube description because that is a not easy URL. I couldn't follow any

you said, why don't people use Bitley more? Just don't get it? Yeah, Bitley's good. Why don't they squat domain? Backslash dot com forward slash dot MOV. All right, let's wrap up.

Thanks, Aaron. Thanks for having me. Yeah, thanks, guys. Thanks. Folks, see you on Monday. to where I want but I know somehow I'm

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