The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3594 - The Iran Escalation Trap; UK Green Party's Historic Win w/ Robert Pape, Grace Blakeley

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

It's an Emmajority Report Thursday on The Majority Report   On today's program:   Senators Chuck Schumer and Chris Coon are signaling that they will vote for $50 billion in supplemental funding for Trump's illegal war in Iran.   Jack Reed (D-RI) says he would not vote for the War Powers resolution UNLESS it is being implemented in defense of Israel.   The president of Israel, Isaac Herzog, says that this war is different from past wars in the Middle East because this one is focused. Despite no one being able to agree on why this war is happening.   Professor Robert Pape of the Escalation Trap on Substack joins the show to discuss the tactics of regime-change operation from a historical perspective.   Grace Blakeley joins the program to discuss the Green Party's big victory last week in the UK.   Kristi Noem has been fired from DHS after a disastrous hearing before Congress.   In the Fun Half:   Some dummy from the Washington Post howls for his food by calling Bernie Sanders's proposed wealth tax as an assault on the American dream.   Governor Polis of Colorado is flirting with the idea of pardoning Tina Peters who is in prison over her efforts to overturn the 2020 elections.   Skip Bayless and his wife share their thoughts on the war in Iran, FINALLY!   all that and more   To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: ZOCDOC: Go to Zocdoc.com/MAJORITY and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor. #sponsored WILD GRAIN: Get $30 off your first box + free Croissants in every box. Go to Wildgrain.com/MAJORITY to start your subscription. SUNSET LAKE:  Head on over to SunsetLakeCBD.com and use the code Daylight26 to save 35% on all of their CBD Sleep Products. Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com

The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. It is Thursday, March 5th, 2026. My name is Emma Vigland in for Sam Cedar, and this is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Professor Robert Pape will be with us to talk about the Iran bombing campaign

and how it drags us into an escalation trap. And later in the show, Grace Blakely will be with us to talk about the significance of last week's Green Party victory in the UK. Also on the program, the Senate votes down Tim Cain's war powers resolution that would have reigned in Trump's criminal war on Iran. Fetterman, the only Democrat, I say, with heavy quotation marks

to break rank the House votes on its version today. The death toll from the bombing of Iran tops 1,000 and the U.S. kills at least 80, sinking an Iranian

vessel coming back from a training exercise. Sri Lanka's Navy rescued 32 of the Iranian soldiers. The Pentagon is running out of its stores of precision weapons less than a week into the war, which Trump denied on truth social, calling the U.S. supply, infinite. We'll never run out. Don't even ask about it. Some Senate Democrats are refusing to rule out voting for supplemental funding for Trump's war in Iran. More on that in just a second.

crude oil prices skyrocket to their highest since June 2025 when Israel bombed Iran the last time. Israeli attacks kill at least 10 in Lebanon and the closure of Gaza's border presents a new hunger crisis. Trump is supposedly calling Republicans on the hill to ask them whether or not he should fire Christy Knoem. Senator Steve Daines of Montana is retiring yet another Republican

hitting the eject button. Colorado's Democratic Governor Jared Polis says he's weighing pardoning election denier Tina Peters amid Trump's public pleas. Every Democrat in his state

says don't do this. And lastly, what? He's about abundance. He's their guy. And lastly, Pam Bondi's DOJ will investigate the most pressing issue of our time, Joe Biden's use of the auto pen.

All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's an M-majority report Thursday. Hello to Matt. Hello to Brian. Also wanted to shout out Julie, Julie, who works on our show, of course, Sam's sister, both things equally important. Happy birthday to Julie. It's Julie's birthday today.

So yay, happy birthday, Julie. Shout out to Julie. Really looking forward to both of our conversations today. But let's start, of course, with the Iran War, the news that you're the story that is just obviously the most important in the country right now. The U.S. and Israel are continuing to carpet bomb parts of Iran, including Tehran, one of the oldest cities in the world. There's videos of damage to historical sites in addition to the 1,000 plus that are dead at this point. It's a city of nearly 10 million people. That's larger than the population of New York City.

Just imagine the circumstances that what things would look like if Iran was carpet bombing New York City. We have such privilege at being at the center of the Imperial Corps that we can't even feel. fathom what this must be like, except when you see the horrific images coming out. Death tolls at least 1,000, as I mentioned. We have bombed schools. We have bombed hospitals. And earlier this week, the U.S. military confirmed that they've been using these B-2 stealth bombers. You may remember that name, because those are the bombers that can typically carry the 2,000-pound bombs that the Israelis were dropping on the people of Gaza

in the midst of the, or in the height of the genocide, and that was at issue with the Biden administration, whether or not they should be using 2,000-pound bombs in a densely packed urban area of 141 square miles, with 2 plus million people in it at the time. We're using these tactics in Iran at this moment. This is the expansion of the Palestine Laboratory, Anthony Lowenstein's thesis and his great book.

Apparently, I saw Trita Parsi was pointing out that it appears that the Israelis and perhaps the Americans are using AI bombing without any human oversight. That that is his assessment based on the pattern of bombing here. So yesterday, Tim Cain's War Powers resolution failed. Rand Paul was the only Republican to break. and then John Federman was the only Democrat to not support the war powers resolution. And it's just amazing because, of course, you had like a week or so of the I'm concerned dance from Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski. Susan Collins up in 2026 and you guys know how we feel about Graham Platner taking her on. But in this vote, yes, there was just one Democrat.

technically to defect here, John Federman. But that is separate from the issue of the supplemental funding that is coming up right now. And we mentioned this yesterday, but I wanted to highlight these quotes from the top Democrat in the Senate, Chuck Schumer and also Chris Coons, if we could just put this on the screen. So the supplemental funding here, like after giving the Pentagon a trillion dollars, they're still running low on these precision munitions, both missiles and interceptors. So the White House wants $50 billion in supplemental emergency spending

to help pay for this criminal war in Iran. And here is what was said yesterday in Politico. But Democratic votes will be needed to pass any emergency funding package in the Senate and minority party leaders say they will need far more details from the Trump administration if they are going to consider support. for new Pentagon cash. Here's Chuck Schumer's quote. Before you can feel satisfied about a supplemental,

and I haven't seen it, you need to know what the real goals are and what the end game is. Then here's Chris Coons, Joe Biden's protege, one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate. He's a senior appropriator. The corporate state of Delaware.

His, yep. His quote is that he wants to, quote, make sure we are making all the investments we can, end quote, to keep U.S. troops safe. If you read between the lines there, that is Chuck Schumer and Chris Coons, saying that they are not opposed to supplemental funding, the $50 billion for this criminal war in Iran on principle. They just need to see some more details first before they commit to it. I would zero in on the next quote, too. The American quote, the American people can get questions.

answered about the failures and plan that led to some of the challenges lost and mistakes in this war. We have the answers. We have our answers, Chris, which is that we don't want this war. So what Chris Coons is saying by the idea, by keeping this question open, even though his base has completely decided, yeah, no, it's not for me. Is to say, well, actually, hear him out. Here the Trump administration out. It's a, it's dressed up as a call for questioning, but actually it's giving them more rope and saying, hey, can you give us a little? little bit more help so we can help you, Mr. Trump, and giving this money to the Pentagon so they can help Israel conquer the Middle East?

They're not alone, because then there's another story in Politico this morning, about the top Democrats on the Senate Armed Services Committee, which includes Gary Peters of Michigan, Tim Cain of Virginia, and Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan, and Jack Reed of Rhode Island, who is the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Now, notice that I just said Tim Cain's name. He introduced that war powers resolution, but he's not ruling out supporting $50 billion in additional funding because of what I just spoke about here.

Because the U.S. stockpile is currently under strain for things like missiles, interceptors, and smart bombs because of how much has been sent to Ukraine since Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine and since that war has been ongoing. The supply has already been depleted. So they do need $50 billion if they want to pay for this criminal war. So you don't give it to them because it's a criminal war. And heck Seth, it's going to the press saying, actually, we've actually moved past the need for these, they're highly sophisticated bombs that we've been using up.

So we can, there's no way Iran can outlasts. Okay, well, then you don't need Democratic votes. Well, here's Jack Reed, though. not committing to opposing this supplemental funding. Will you vote to authorize this war? I will vote to invoke the War Powers Act, which would give the President 30 days to terminate the operation except for activities defending the state of Israel,

which is critical to our alliance and alliance on Israel. Senator Jack Reed, I do appreciate your time this morning. our reliance on Israel that's this is where we can play this next clip of the president of Israel Isaac Herzog being asked by Tony

two cuts docopole in a very respectful manner with hushedones about the fact that the American public overwhelmingly does not support this war Regis said it we need I mean because

the our munitions are precision munitions are depleted, even if, you know, we don't, we on principle are against this war, sure, sure, sure. We have to send replenish with $50 billion extra to support Israel. This is how regime change wars and endless wars begin. This action by the Trump administration is roping these senators who are corrupted by the Zionist lobby and the military industrial complex into supporting it. But they want, but like, you know, they'll they, they wanted to, I understand what you're saying. But it's just, it's, it's, it's a sunk cost fallacy. Because the action was so aggressive and because the munitions already were in short supply,

they're able to be like, oh, well, do you support the troops? Do you support Israel? If you do, you better fund their defense. And, um, this is the president of Israel. Obviously, Netanyahu's the prime minister, Herzog's the president, addressing the question, uh, as to why, how, how, How are you going to work around the fact that like 70 to 80 percent of Americans oppose this war with Iran? I just have one more question because I'm cognizant of your time. It's okay. What do you think this war does to the U.S.-Israeli relationship going forward? And I ask because it's not a popular war in America.

I understand it's not a popular war in America because, you know, usually people do not know the intricacies of the war. and they also compare it to previous and other wars. This is a unique wall. And I listen very carefully to Secretary's Rubio's statements yesterday in Congress. It's a unique wall. It's a focused wall. It is a war that comes in a time where you can really bring real change in the Middle East for the future. Thank you, Mr. President.

The American public may be unhappy with another endless war, but this is our opportunity to strike. And they just don't fully understand the intricacies of how important it is for Israel to expand into Lebanon, into Syria, to steal more and more land, to create a buffer zone to the buffer zone to complete the genocide. And Iran's capabilities are a threat to them in that region. So in this supposed democracy, public opinion for the supply, of the weapons that allows Israel to behave so belligerently is just a small obstacle that we have to get over. And that's what the money is for. Remember what Ilhan Omar said? It's all about the

Benjamins. And then you had a public rebuke by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats for stating this exact fact. We are in this position now where this war is so, they didn't even bother to manufacture consent for war with Iran because of how. distant our government and the military industrial complex and that apparatus is from the levers of public opinion. This is about the fact that our democracy is already gone in its current structure. Under Citizens United, the explosion of dark money, you have the Israel lobby, you have the military industrial complex, you have all of these forces that are financially invested in Israel's expansion, having completely conquered our government.

They have the Senate minority leader. They have the House minority leader. They have the Senate majority leader. They have the House majority leader. They have the president. They have a good amount of Democrats and the entire Republican Party saved for like Massey and Rand Paul. And this is because of political corruption.

And we were told for many years that it was anti-Semitic to speak about this. the idea that this amount of money is influencing our politics. And there you have the president of Israel saying that the money has become, has been built up to such a degree that we don't even really need to consider public opinion when we're trying to push this forward. In fact, voters don't understand the news. The voters are dumb. Democrats and Republicans agree with that.

Well, Republicans probably think that. Democrats do. Democrats definitely do. They think people are too stupid. Chuck Schumer thinks you're stupid. They think that you, they think that they know better than the, what, 90% of the democratic base of their own party at this point that doesn't support Israel's military action, the half of the American public that thinks that they're committing genocide, we know better in the hallowed halls of the Senate, which is really just how corrupt people justify their actions and their existence. And there's also zealotry on some of, you know, those people's behalf as well. But for many, for many, even like a guy like Jack Reed, it's just the blob.

You get caught up in it. And people of that age, sorry to cut him. Yeah, no. The Democratic Party has seen this, like, rights be rolled back. You lost Roe versus Wade. These are fundamental failures. And whose heads have really rolled because of that? Pramila Jaipal is the only person who's taken any kind of accountability.

And frankly, she's probably the one of the, Like one of them that could say. The best in the house. And there's been no kind of it. We're still dealing with the Clintons. At this point, you have to blame, and I'm including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Chris Murphy, all of these people in the supposed fight club. We heard about this three months ago. They leaked to the New York Times that they are coming up with like an alternative power structure to challenge Chuck Schumer.

And we've heard nothing since then about that. I blame them for not taking this fight publicly. It is endangering our democracy. The Republicans make a spectacle about their internal disagreement, and it has done absolutely nothing to hurt them politically. Nothing. Nothing. The Democrats shut off the public from debates about internal leadership structure and then do it in hush tones because they're more institutionalists than they are democratically responsive. And it's a major, major problem. So love for Bernie, love for Warren.

It's past time to take this fight publicly. We need it. It's an existential issue. Yep. In a moment, we're going to be talking to Professor Robert Pape. First, a word from our sponsors here. Link down below in the video and episode descriptions and at majority.fm. Quick break.

And when we come back, we will be joined by Professor Pape. We are back and we are joined now by Professor Robert Pape, Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, founding director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, and publisher of the excellent substack, the escalation trap. Professor, thanks so much for coming on the show today. Thanks for having me, Emma.

Of course. So this bombing campaign in Iran, which the Trump administration has dubbed Operation Epic Fury, is supposedly aiming for regime change. But your book and your work, your book, your research, also on your substack, has been analyzing air campaigns since, World War I. What is the rate of success for air campaigns for toppling governments?

It's brutal. We are owe for every effort tribe. So the weight of history now is bearing down on President Trump, not just Iranian drones. For over 100 years, states have been trying to topple governments with air power alone. And just, you know, think about what you're hearing now how magical it would be if everything would just work out in a few days, quick and decisive, almost nobody dies, maybe even on either side except leaders. Well, this has been seductive. It was seductive in the dumb bomb age, seductive even more in the precision age. And I now call it the smart bomb trap because we're getting trapped.

And it has never, and I'm choosing my words carefully, never worked. never zero zero percent yeah it's zero we really don't have so my book bombing to win goes through 40 air campaigns okay so just to put some numbers on this we've probably conducted um about another 15 or so not just the United States but other countries since that book and I published an article in foreign affairs on each and every one of those including last summers um typically before they happen or early on to explain what to expect. There's another piece by me in Foreign Affairs coming out in a few days, so just be aware.

Again, it's the paper article on the Precision Air Campaign. And all I have to do is just update it with the concrete details because the same problems come up. And right now you're seeing it's all the target set was splendidly struck on Saturday morning. really was, but it was always going to be splendidly struck. There's nothing extraordinary about that. We've been doing that for 30 years with precision air power. There's some new tools a little bit, but that 100% tactical success did not lead to strategic success. So it did not take down the regime. It did not even set the regime back from being able to lash back. And then, of

first, your listeners will remember, we talked about, you know, oh, that was just the spasms of the dying body. No, this is a coordinated surgical precision air campaign. These are precision guided drones. So they are targeting in ways we, the airport, I've talked for the U.S. Air Force on parallel attack. I know quite a bit about all these details. And the bottom line is what you are seeing is Iran taking. a page not just with drones, but the actual strategy of parallel attack. And you're seeing that it's paralyzing the airports. We're trying to now madly rush to get half million to a million

Americans out in days when the airports are shut down. You see, this is what we're up against now is the typical failure in the smart bomb trap. We're in stage two. Stage one happened. We're now stage two. There's a stage three. So if you've been reading the substack, you just know what's coming. Okay. Well, can you explain that? Can you explain that a little bit then? I mean, I want to also go back a little bit in history to talk about the transition from dumb bombs to the precision age and how it hasn't made a difference at all. But take us through the different stages of the escalation trap, also the name of your substack, but also the smart bomb track, a trap, which is specific to the bombing campaign. Yeah, so we've always had this allure that we could use air power to take down

regimes. We'll call it taking down the regime. With the precision age, however, once you know you can highly reliable, 80, 90% of the time, the bombs will land within five to 15 feet of the target and the blast radius is 25 feet. Now you know that you can put the bomb right in an office in a building, not just simply on a building or on a city block. That from the day one of these precision weapons led to the idea of killing, we call it decapitating leaders. The first precision air campaign in history was by Ronald Reagan, April 1986, to decapitate Gaddafi in Libya. We missed him. He stepped out of his tent, literally seconds before the bombs fell. killed everybody in that 10, including his three-year-old daughter.

And then two years later, he retaliated by having his Libyan agents blow up, Pan Am Flight 103, killing 271 civilians, 190 Americans, two years after. You see, so the bad guys don't have to respond right away. Here, what you're seeing is this is stage one. We have the 100% tactical success on that Saturday. now we're in stage two where it has failed to take down the regime or even stop it from coherently lashing back in ways that are incredibly painful to us. And we don't even know where the fizzle that this enriched uranium is, my goodness gracious, we've got nothing for all this bombing. And so what are we doing now?

We're trying to double down. And at the same time, President Trump's looking for the golden offram. He's trying to say, well, what can I claim I was? doing, even though I've given all these videos about I want to take down the regime. What could I say I got out of this? And that's what you see this mad scramble for in Washington. And people are very loyal to the president here. I'm not trying to be any, you know, I'm very pro-American. It's not about being anti-anybody. But at the bottom line is we are in stage two. And we are not coming out of this very well, and we have unleashed a wicked escalation on the region.

And it's not clear to me. Iran's just going to stop this. We've been really pushing this tiger pretty hard, and they're now pretty fed up. I made the mistake of going into your replies on Twitter, and so I'm going to play devil's advocate here. And this is not an argument I subscribe to. I'm just curious. I'm from the University of Chicago, Emma. I love this. And people are trying. They love the game. Can we get the professor? So that's okay. Let's play the game. Yes. Well, so this is conservatives are saying that, okay, your theory about this having a, about air campaigns, having a zero percent success rate toppling

government since World War I doesn't take into account the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. and they would say that that constitutes a success by your metric. What is your response to that? Oh, read bombing to win, of course. I'm not talking about nuclear bombing. I'm talking about conventional bombing. I make that absolutely clear. See, what happens in the game of gotcha here is they sort of pretend as if they've read the books,

but they haven't actually read the book. All you have to do is go to Amazon and you don't have to buy the book. Just go to read the sample. And you will see this completely taken off. the table, not an issue here. Now, of course, if Donald Trump decides he's going to turn Iran to glass with nuclear weapons and kill 92 million people, that would be a different story. I would say that would be in change will happen with the death of 92 million people. So this is what, so again, this is the silliness that we get. And it's not just, by the way,

social media. This is just what happens in the age of gotcha, where they try to, but, Let's keep going. I love the game. And maybe they'll score a point. So let's be honest about it. Right. Keep it up. I'm glad to hear the laughter of your books.

Let's enjoy. Let's have a little humor in this really tragic. Horrible time. I mean, that's the show's mantra. Get the professor. Let's maybe score. Okay. Let's do it.

Let's do it. All right. Well, just wanted to ask you, but I was curious about your reaction to that. But let's go back to Iran here. And if you, sorry about that. So, bring me back on and you'll have another group of them. Absolutely. Once we have more time.

But I just wanted to ask a little bit more about the history of precision bombing. And what constitutes precision bombing? What bombing campaigns look like prior to this age and what they look like after. And why? Yeah, just because people want to know about the mechanics, I did a big substack. on this yesterday. Now, the key thing to know is that word precision. We've used that even in World War II.

And in World War II, we had a thing called a Norden bomb site that the British didn't have. And the British bombs fell within five miles of their target. So just think about that for a moment. American bombs were called precision because half the time we could get them within a thousand feet. So just think about that for a second. So had we bombed Auschwitz, for example, a big thing I've studied and written and so forth, we would have likely killed somewhere between 10 and 40,000 Jews in the bombing campaign to destroy four of the furnaces, just to kind of put this in some perspective.

And that was called precision. Now, what happened is in the 1980s, the electronics revolution, the digital age comes in. So just like digital. used to that. And that impacted lasers at first. You could use lasers to guide the target in. Then you could have GPS, just like we have on our phones, even better than lasers. So now we have a mix of laser guided. We used to use radio guided. That was also, but now they can fall, these bombs can fall with the laser guided. You can adjust the fins. So you can literally adjust the fins on the way down. So they fall even in moderate winds within about five to 15 feet of a target.

Now, if you have a gale, it's not going to work. So Hurricane one, you don't bomb. You're not going to do it. But this is really why I call it the smart bomb trap, you see, because what happens is when you get the PowerPoint briefing, and it's going to be spiffy and it's going to look very professional, you know, what does President Trump like to say, you know, made for TV? It's going to look very impressive. And it's going to be true. We are any target we can visibly see. We have over 90% chance of destroying that target in just one go round.

You might have to put a couple bombs on it, but you will be able to do that. That tends to create the illusion of control. Control over time, not just on that hour of contact. on the first instance. So that's really the trap. And I've seen this. I've advised every White House since 2001, 2001, 2004, not this one yet, but the first Trump White House.

And I've advised chiefs of staff of the Air Force, Chief of Naval Operations. That's top Navy. So secretaries of defense, that issue I'm talking about, it's very seductive. Even when you have super smart folks, so it doesn't matter, Democrat, Republican, that temptation of control is really there, you see. And when you talk about, if I could just jump in for a second, the fact that it's an illusion is really important to understanding here, the illusion of control and the trap that's coming in here, because can you speak a little bit about how your research has found that this

kind of bombing campaign and this mode of warfare has increased kind of nationalist sentiment and does nothing except hardened nationalist sentiment, but there's bloodshed. We've killed over 1,000 people at this point in Iran. But in terms of effectiveness for the stated goals, that doesn't seem to be on the table. That's exactly right. So before the bombing happens,

there is the society and the regime. And often there is a gap between the society and the regime. And right now, what, President Trump has a 38% approval rating? So you could say there's a gap between the society and President Trump. But when you take the third actor in, the foreign military attacker, they are coming in and they're picking a government. You hear today, President Trump is literally looking at the list of possible replacements for the guy he just killed.

Nope, not going to go there. It's like he's on the apprentice and he's going to pick the – you see, this is not going to go down well in Iran. And what you're doing is you're infusing the idea of nationalism, where the idea is they may not like their leader, but they don't want to be run by Donald Trump or anybody else. So Netanyahu Trump or anybody else. And so what you're doing is you're changing the game and you're infuse that you're changing politics inside of the target. And that is fusing that nationalism, the society and the regime closer together. and it allows the regime to do more aggressive things. It makes it harder for the moderates, the pro-democracy moderates, to go up against their own regime

because now they're henchmen of a foreign military power. If you don't mind, an analogies here with America, I think are very helpful. So we know that Iran has tried to assassinate President Trump several times. Well, what if they were to succeed tomorrow? Would Democrats take to the streets and droves thanking Iran and saying, hey, come on over in New York to Times Square. We're going to party with you. I don't think that's going to happen. And you can see right away they would lose the midterms badly if they did.

That's nationalism here. And it's not because Democrats, of course, have any love for Donald Trump. It's because of nationalism. Same dynamics apply. This is really human nature. It's not a Democratic thing. It's not a Republican thing. It's not a tribal thing.

People are trying to complexify all this. Okay? I've been dealing with a lot of complexifiers for a lot of years. It's not that complex, but it's about politics. And when your eye is on the, like, mesmerized by that technology and you can go poof to any target you can see, you're really not thinking about that politics. and your intel, they can't see this coming because it hasn't come.

So you can ask Intel, and I've seen this happen, go out there and get me all the best intel on the emerging nationalism here, and it doesn't come. And that's why in the substack, I'm giving some indicators here that are a little bit different here. I'm telling you what to kind of keep your eyes on a little bit, and you'll see that over time. I'm going to try to help understand.

But the bottom line is that the regime now is probably more resilient than it ever was. This idea that we have destroyed it, they're playing a long game. And that's why Trump's looking for an off-ramp to say, what kind of deal can I get him to accept? Lastly, what do you anticipate the outcome is going to be now that we are in the trap that you're describing? When you say Trump is looking for an off-ramp, is that even possible? He can take it. It'll be a loser for him in the short term. So he's not getting out of this with a golden off-ramp. that's for sure. Half of the Republicans, now it's 44 to 44. You see what I mean in the Republican

support for this. So they're clearly divided on this pretty aggressively. This is not just Democrat-Republican split anymore. And so even if he cuts a deal here, the MAGA crowd is pretty angry at him right now. Now, if he goes further, he'll then take the risk of becoming Lyndon Johnson in the Vietnam War, where now the cost amounts so much. and then he quits later, the political cost is even bigger. I'm not saying he'll step down, but you can easily see, lose the House and the Senate and maybe get close to 60 Democratic seats in the Senate. The Republicans aren't going to forgive him for that.

So that's not going to be, these are his choices. Now, wherever he stops tomorrow or three months from tomorrow, we have a wicked problem on our hands. there is a thousand pounds of 60% enriched uranium, enough for 10 bombs, and another 10,000 pounds of 5 and 20% enriched uranium, enough for a couple more, and we don't know where an ounce of that is. So we can walk away from this, but there's a good chance that Iranians not walking away from this. They're learning the lesson here that we're taught them of a lot of lessons here,

And I think that this is really the trap in the smart bomb trap. We are really in a negative sum world. Well, Professor Robert Pape, thanks so much. The escalation trap is on substack, and you can check it out over there. We'll put a link to that down below. Thanks so much for your time today. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

Enjoyed it a lot, Emma. Thank you. Quick break, and when we come back, we'll be joined by Grace Blakely, and we'll be talking about the UK Green Party's victory. We are back and we are joined by Grace Blakely, author, including of the excellent recent book, Vulture Capitalism, Corporate Crimes, Backdoor Bailouts and the Death of Freedom, hosts of the Roundup podcast and publisher on Substack at Graceblakely.com. Grace, thanks so much for coming on the show, back on the show.

Thanks for having me. Of course. So this is, we covered this last week, the UK Green Party's pretty historic victory in this parliamentary by-election, but I need more context on British politics. Take us through why this was so significant and what it means for, like, say, labor and the future of that failing party, for example. Yeah, so as your listeners will probably know, Kirst Stama, who currently leads the Labor Party has been in power, has been our Prime Minister for a while now. And he took over after a period when the left was effectively leading and running the Labour Party

under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn. Now, Stama was elected by the membership on the basis that he would kind of continue a lot of Corbinism, so particularly the kind of economic policies, redistribution, tackling inequality, etc. And then he flipped sharply to the right. So kicked out almost, you know, anyone who was sympathetic to the left within the party,

really rigidly centralized control. So he could really determine in which people were able to get which seats, which allowed them to put loyalists in place for the upcoming election. And he really just purged the left. And for a while, that left us, those of us who are on the British left, feeling pretty disillusioned and hopeless, and kind of looking around to see where we could build from.

And, you know, there's lots of springs of hope. We have, you know, a vibrant labor movement. We have lots of fantastic social movements, the environmental movement, but they had yet to kind of coalesce into a body that could represent everyone on the British left. We had Jeremy Corbyn attempt to try and start a new party in the form of your party. That didn't really work. There was a little too much factional in fighting, and they weren't really able to get it off the ground. What was that over, Grace? I'm just curious because I assumed that that would be the more viable left option, but that didn't end up being

the case. It's complicated. And to be honest, I don't know. the full ins and outs of what happened. But effectively, there are different people who are trying to work together backed by quite different groups, and they don't trust each other, which is a problem that I think we have quite a bit on the left, which is like people trying to work together in pretty complicated and difficult conditions, not necessarily being able to kind of come together and work towards the greater good. What I've been really excited about with the Greens, I personally joined the Greens quite a while ago to encourage people to vote for the current leader, Zach Polanski. I've known him for a very long time. I know that he's a really good leader.

He has great politics, great values, but also he's just a decent guy. And I think that's really come out over the course of this campaign. People can really relate to him. He comes across really well on social media and in the media. And that's really led to this big surge of support for the Greens, just showing that that big base of the left that was kicked out of the Labor Party really want somewhere to go. And actually, when we're able to kind of rally around an institution like the Greens, we can bring so many more people in around these popular policies of wealth redistribution, investing in the green economy, no more endless wars, all of these sort of like basic common sense things that most people agree with, but just aren't represented

among the mainstream political establishment. And that's what the Greens are really just doing right now. Talk about Hannah Spencer, who won in Gordon and Denton. And what her campaign was centered around. I know she was a plumber, was, you know, focused on a working class kind of policy set and also was strong standing up against the genocide in Gaza, for example. Yeah. So there were a couple of things that Hannah Spencer did really well, the first of which was focusing on, as I said, those kind of key common sense issues that really resonate with most people, which is stuff like dealing with the cost of living crisis, what you guys would call the affordability crisis, taking a really strong and principled stance on Gaza, which a lot of people are extremely

angry about. There is a significant Muslim population in the seat that she was running for. So that was obviously a rally and cry for them, but it was also something about which a significant number of particularly young people. And by young, I'm talking anyone under kind of 40, 50, was really, really passionate about and still are. There was also a real strength of Hannah's was that she was able to mobilize people to come out and fight. and knock on doors and speak to people. And one thing that I'm consistently hearing amongst the activists who went to kind of volunteer,

knock on doors and speak to local constituents was that they were really invested in listening to what people were concerned about and then taking that back and orienting their political messaging around that. I think that was what was really exciting for me was that it just, the campaign showed what's possible

when you get these like powerful movements of passionate people who were able to work together and listen and then plan campaigning and messaging off the back of that. It is really exciting to see that kind of like movement building happening again in such an individualistic and kind of isolated society. And then the final thing, of course, was that she was very relatable. The Greens historically have probably been more of like a middle class party, uniting people who are to the left, but also socially liberal, progressive on the climate.

And their task now is really to broaden that base. And to do that, they have to get more candidates like Hannah. How have they responded to socialist movements in the UK? Have they evolved to be more amenable to socialism? Yeah. So the UK Greens are slightly different from Greens in a lot of Europe. In like Germany and a few other European countries, green parties are basically kind of liberal, so quite centrist, liberal in, I guess,

the UK European sense of the word, like in the middle of the political spectrum. and basically often kind of like pro-market, but socially liberal and obviously focused on green issues. In the UK, they've always been more left of centre. You know, we have a similar sort of electoral system as what you guys have in the US. It's a majoritarian system. So it really kind of militates against the emergence of third parties unless they have really strong local representation. So the Greens have historically been a kind of marginal force. They had a really powerful leader in parliamentary leader in Caroline Lucas, who was just seen as a kind of really strong campaigner on the climate, on things like inequality. But it's really been since the left was kicked

out of the Labour Party that the Greens have kind of been reorganised as a new force, a really strong force on the left of British politics. And, you know, people have reacted to that in different ways. Some longstanding members have kind of been like, wow, okay, our party's changing quite a lot. But they can't deny the fact that in, you know, soaking up all of this energy that exists on the left of British politics and that doesn't have any representation right now, the Greens are being propelled to a position that we haven't really seen before. And what's fascinating as well about this point in time is that we are seeing the breakdown of that two-party chokehold on British politics that's existed for a century.

And new parties, for better or worse, are beginning to really, like, emerge and build power. And we will see what happens at the next election as to whether that will translate into parliamentary representation. Well, that's my last question because I know we have you for a limited time. The one, when is the next election most likely? And two, can you speak about the rise of the far right reform party under Nigel Farage? We've been covering this for a while. But it feels obviously quite similar, just the polarization that we're seeing in our politics, even though we're still in this two-party system. Yeah. So in terms of the next election, in all likelihood, we have a few years. Yeah, it's really within the remit of the government to determine.

when the next election is, it has to be within a five-year period. They'll likely, this Labor government will likely hold on for as long as conceivably possible because they are extremely unpopular. Right. And many of those MPs are going to lose their seats. So they're going to want to have as much time as possible to figure out how they can translate their parliamentary careers into nice lucrative careers in the private sector, I'm sure. But, you know, we are facing this big challenge, which is the rise of the far right, in terms of reform.

And that has been something that's been building in British politics for a really, really long time. It was kind of for a while sidelined by the movement to leave the European Union. But the disappointment that has been associated with that process, as well as the ongoing, profound mistrust and anger towards political elites combined with the affordability crisis, has driven increasing support among the far right. What I will say is that this is a very age-dependent story. So right now, anyone basically under 60, like the Greens have a vast, a huge lead in the polls.

You know, if it was just people under 60 who were voting, the Greens would be storming the next elections. It's the over-60 group, people who possibly kind of own their own homes, have maybe seen their living standards fall somewhat. and, you know, maybe a socially bit more conservative and have a tendency to kind of blaming, particularly migrants and other underrepresented groups for that shift in their economic circumstances.

They're the ones that are really driving that support for the far right. And yes, there is a story to be said here among their increasing popularity among young men, but this is really predominantly an age story here. So the question is, you know, how's that going to break down when we look at voting patterns? and also can left parties really mobilize on the basis of that anger towards the political establishment and translate that into a more positive message around, okay, we can change things.

We don't just have to boot all the immigrants out and hope for the best. We can instead think about this positive economic message that relies on redistribution and preparing for a kind of more sustainable and more equal future. Well, boom, home owning boomers, boomers being racist and ruining. our politics. I didn't want to say it like that, but sure. That's our situation too. So I'm glad to know that we're in somewhat of a similar boat. Grace Blakely, I mean, Fulcher Capitalism, if you haven't read it at this point, what's wrong with you? Check out her book. And then also, graceblakely.com publisher on Substack. Thanks so much for taking the time. I know that you're,

you were time limited, so I really appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me. It was great to speak. Bye. Of course. Bye. So, well, let's, there's Grace's a substack. She's great. She's great. And that book is phenomenal. I wanted to wrap up with one more story since we're not at 1 p.m. yet. So we can squeeze some more news in because we didn't get to this the other day.

But Christy Noem has testified now. She testified in front of the Senate and House Judiciary panels yesterday and Tuesday. So, yeah, earlier this week. And apparently there was an item in Punch Bowl this morning that Trump is supposedly calling a bunch of other Republicans on the Hill to ask for advice about whether or not he should fire Christine Nome. And apparently it was this exchange with Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana who asked her about this 220, million dollar contract for this ad campaign that was awarded to a company that I think it was like 10 or 11 days or something like that it was create at the eight eight days so a week and change that's how old this company was that the DHS uh you don't like startups I don't I don't

I don't like innovation um they they got this major major contract and what do you know it was connected to the husband of the DHS spokeswoman who resigned two weeks ago. So here is Kennedy asking Christy Nome about that. And this was apparently the thing that made Trump most upset about her hearing. What? Because he didn't get a cut? Probably. Or because she was getting more attention in an ad campaign. Sorry to interrupt. But the president approved ahead of time, you spending $220 million running TV ads across the country in which you are featured prominently. Yes, sir. We went through the legal processes.

Did it correct? Did the president know you were going to do this? Yes. He did? Yes. Okay. And one thing, Senator, I think, would be helpful to know is how effective that communications has been. Well, but overwhelmingly.

Effective in your name recognition. I mean, I personally just, I mean, to me, it puts the president in a terribly awkward spot. And it, it, and I just, I'm not saying you're not telling the truth. It's just hard for me to believe, you know. And the president, as I do, that you said, Mr. President, here's some ads I've cut and I'm going to spend $220 million running them, that he would have agreed to that. I don't think Russ vote at OMB would have agreed to that. It's something we have to defend. I'm on the Appropriations Committee.

I mean, my research shows that you did not bid them out. In fact, one of the people you picked the strategy group, I'm sorry, Safe America Media was a company formed 11 days before you picked them and that the strategy group got most of the money and the head of that is married to your former spokesperson. Look, we all have friends who are qualified. I'm not quibling with that. I'm just, it troubles me, a quarter, a fifth to a quarter of a billion dollars

taxpayer money. When we're scratching for every penny and fighting over rescission packages. I just can't agree with, Madam Secretary. Are you still running those ads? Senator, I did not have anything to do with picking those contractors.

No politicals at the Department of Homeland Security did. I understand. Are you still running those ads? Are you still running those ads? I think the ads are due to end here in March, I think within a week which I'm not sure of the end. The one that is running is focusing

on angel families. Have you seen that? It is the one that's talking about this is our why. This is why we work every day is for the angel families. And all the money that the government gives us in contracts. And the angel family. Have you seen that one? It's fantastic. The angel family's one? That's what she says to Kennedy.

Have you seen that one? Right. Right. Well, we're going to, let's play let's play an example of this. Because clearly this has to be why Trump was upset about it. Braising corruption, giving contracts to your friends, from, I guess, back in South Dakota, come on. There's no way that Trump is really that upset about something. I don't like that kind of business. I run a clean operation here, okay?

The way Kennedy sort of dismissed the idea that she had Trump's permission makes me think that he has information that Trump has been unhappy with this prior to that line of question. I think that that's also why you're seeing that leak in Politico, that Trump is making the rounds, calling Republicans on the Hill. She's such a shableness.

boat, which I hate. And she's been in... Attention Seeker, makeup, plastic surgery. These are all things I famously hate. What does she think she's in one of my pageants? I honestly, maybe... Why is there a woman in her 40s on a campaign?

And why is she brunette? Hasn't she dealt with that already? Look, girl, or she's barely recognizable these days. But if you want to say, go blonde, go blonde. go blonde. It's not that hard. But we have to watch these ads that she had no idea who was getting the contracts for. Yeah, and this is why

Trump is upset is because of her desire to be a celebrity and prominently featuring herself in these ad campaigns. Why do I love these wide open spaces? I. remind me of why our forefathers came here.

Not just for its beauty, but for the freedom only America provides. I'm Christy Noem. From the Cowboys who tamed the West to the Titans who built our cities, to the dreamers who chase the impossible. America has always rewarded vision. Oh, finally Trump. Our greatness calls people to us for a chance to prosper, to live how they choose, to become part of something special. Anyone who searches for freedom can always find a home here.

But that freedom's a precious thing, and we defend it vigorously. You cross the border illegally? We'll find you. Break our laws. We'll punish you. Harm American citizens, there will be consequences. But if you come here the right way, your American dream can be as big as these endless skies. Whatever, man. I did not appear in that ad until halfway through. They prioritized the slow motion video of Christy Noem or wrangling cattle.

I love the idea that they still pay lip service, the idea that it'll come here the right way, which we're trying to make it harder to do when every single second there's anything happening in the rest of the world. Our first comment is, yeah, we're not accepting any refugees from there, even if it's our bombs that are causing it. This idea, like, it's weird that they even need to pay. I think it's a sign that, like, they know that fundamentally people aren't on board with this, frankly, Stephen Miller Nazi-style closing of the border.

And isn't it amazing when you contrast this like slush fund with the understanding that when Christy Noem took over DHS, that she required that, and this was under, I think, the one big ugly, ugly ass bill. When, when after she got all of that money, $150 billion for DHS, they still had this policy that she had to personally approve any payment or any grant. Over $100,000. And that included, like, her new responsibilities as it related to things like disaster relief and funds that people would need just to have, like, the, that would be, I guess, kind of greenlit in a normal circumstance. Any payment over $100,000 with an $150 billion budget means you're just putting every contract or grant on hold unless it appeals to Trump or it's like, helps Republicans. But here's hundreds of millions of dollars in this slush fund for my friend

and her husband. Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security is what it says at the end of that ad. Woo! That is a 200 million, what is this? Nogu says $143 million dollars of taxpayer dollars going to a company that has no headquarters, no website. Do you want to play this

Nogues 2 before we are? Yes, do it. What number is this? Uh, it's right after. Okay, yeah, here is also another this was the exchange is this a different this is the house

this has got to be though a different this is a different contract a different hundred million dollar yes no fraud that she's involved in right because the I I would assume let's hear what he's talking about here I haven't seen this yet in just a second

two of them that's inaccurate Madam Madam Secretary I'll read from the notice from your agency. Given the immediate action to significantly reduce illegal immigration and border crossings, DHS identified four companies. Four of the hundreds of thousands of companies in the United States, you identified four. One of those is this Safe America Media Company. Where is Safe America Media headquartered?

I don't know. I don't know either, Madam Secretary. We can't find it. We can't find a website. We did find an address that's registered for this company. Do you know where that address is? Is there a problem with this contract? I'll tell you about it.

Madam Secretary, the address is registered to a political operative. Madam Secretary, the company, and I'll give you an opportunity to respond. The company is registered to a political operative in Virginia. Do you know, just by way of example, whether this company that received $143 million in taxpayer dollars, has it ever done work for the government before? I don't know. I can't. The answer is it has not.

And do you know why we know that? because it was incorporated eight days, eight days before this contract went out. You want the American people to believe that this is all above board? That $143 million of taxpayer money just happened to go to this one company that doesn't have a headquarters, doesn't have a website, has never done work for the federal government before, and is registered, apparently, or attached to a residence from a political operative. And of course, one of the subcontractors of that contract, as you know, is a political firm that's tied to you back when you were governor in South Dakota. The reason why I asked these questions is this is taxpayer money.

And I presume, I don't know this for a fact, but Senator Tillis noted yesterday the way in which your agency is blocking the inspector general from 11 different investigations that it is trying to conduct. I don't know if this happens to be one of them. I certainly hope it is because eventually the facts will become public in this regard. And so I guess the polymarket odds on which Republican or which Trump administration official is going to get fired first. She's got to have like negative odds right now. Christine Noam, right? Yeah, her, Pam Bondi. I feel like Pam Bonnie has eaten so much shit that it's like, I mean, she's right.

I think she does know too much. Christy Gnome, um, Christine Gnome is an easy scapegoat because they can, uh, go back to peer. Yeah, but Tom Holman, he just has,

he speaks with more authority. I can't understand it, but there's something I trust more about what he says. And then, uh, Chris, you know Stephen Miller is just in his ear like, she bungled this.

We should have done it my way or the highway. And he's back on television now, selling the Iran war to the public. Maybe we'll play his hysterical spitting in the fun half. here. But I just am tickled by the idea that of all of these scandals, the thing that is embarrassing Trump the most

is this expensive ad campaign that was incredibly corrupt, going to her buddies. And he's not, he doesn't care about that on principle. He cares about it probably, probably because he's seen the ad and he doesn't like how he's not central in it. I think there might be a pattern

of commercial media grifting going on by Christy Noem, because this ad came out and it made waves in 2019 and the tagline is meth we're on it. I remember this. So are you suggesting

that like you had suggested to me with Drake that there are people that are working on Drake's, Ghost Writers that they're working on Drake's songs that they're putting in to embarrass him. To embarrass him secretly? Are you trying to say that that's the dynamic in

Christine Nome's ad campaign? I just think they like to scam this way by giving media stuff and they don't really care about what they put out and how embarrassing it looks. But let's just watch this meth campaign. I'm on meth. I'm on meth. I'm on it too. So am I.

So am I. I'm on meth. Meth is not someone else's problem. It's everyone in South Dakota's problem. And we need everyone to get on it. I'm on it. I'm on it too. The implication is that not enough.

people are on meth. A little bit too clever. I was going to say, did Armando Ionucci write that commercial? No, but, okay. So if you, it could work, it could work the I'm on it, turn or phrase. If all of the people that they showed previously weren't cuddly grandmas and boys on the football team, like they would have had to show them as struggling and having difficulty. I think that's, it's like everyone in your community is on meth, you got to get on it.

No, they're on it. Like, we're on stopping it. No, I get it. That's the divide. No, I think you're both wrong. I think what they're saying is meth is something that it doesn't go to the stereotypes you usually think of, and it's a wider public health crisis. I'll just say,

the system of that isn't an ad that's too clever by half. It's to treat it as a public health crisis. No, Brian, you were right that I was wrong. So everybody in that ad is supposedly taking on meth together. Yeah, we're on it, boss. We're on meth. That's the double entendre. Okay, that's the double entendre.

We're on it now. I just, I didn't know if there was a transition to the people that were like tweaking on meth. to the others who were helping fight it. But it is a little too convoluted for a PSA, I got to say. But I hope they got a nice little government contract. That's probably a hundred, $100 million commercial. Probably coasters in every bar in South Dakota. It says meth, we're on it.

We honestly probably should try to find some of those t-shirts in the way that we have that Jeb merch. Jeb merch somewhere around the office. That's like a, yeah, that's a, that's a collector's item. I haven't seen the Jeb Cup in a while. got this? It probably hasn't been washed in like three years. I'm not touching. I'm not touching that gym.

So, folks, we're going to wrap up the free part of this program. We're going to head into the fun half shortly. Matt, what's happening on Left Reckoning with the Jackman show? And I know you were on the Vanguard last night. Yeah, I was on the Vanguard yesterday talking about Platner and anti-Semitism and other stuff. go check that out. Tomorrow, Jacobin show, talking with Bronco Marx, he talks about the Iran war going into some of the right wings response to it.

And yeah, that'll be tomorrow at 10 o'clock a.m. Eastern time. Hello, Brandon. Hello, Emma. How are you doing? I'm actually not doing well, both personally and I guess as a content creator. Personally, I think I have a touch of the flu. Oh, no. As a content creator, that's the minor thing.

As a content creator, I'm being censored, I think, actively by YouTube. So for fans of the discourse, you may have noticed that twice this week, the live stream has gone down because I've been accused of violating the firearms policy on YouTube for live streaming because you're not allowed to have anyone handling firearms in a video and a live stream. Now, the first time I got dinged for playing that video clip of those Cuban expats who tried to raid Cuba. And they said that they were... But you're not doing that. You're showing a video of it. You would think that. And then the second time, though, today I got hit again because I played a video of Glenn Beck playing a video of AI George Washington, which included a musket.

And they said that that... That's outrageous. It's never been a better time to support the discourse. on Twitch. It's never been the better time to support the discourse on YouTube, even though. I'm still out of post videos. It's not go live. But yeah, you know, I'm being censored. This is just another example of the ways in which I personally, not the left, but the left also, but I personally am constantly being victimized by the many tech overlords that run our lives. So, you know, I'm asking you the people to come on the right side, the Brandon side, the side of the discourse,

free the discourse. Absolutely. All right. Well, heed that call and hello matt bender what's happening in your neck of the woods hey uh tonight at 8 30 p.m eastern time uh at youtube.com slash matt binder tune in for an episode of the leftist mafia do so um and for my plugs i guess it's it's been like a week since uh it's been released but if people still haven't checked it out uh check out my episode of doom scroll also link down below it's in like two and a half weeks at this point. I'm going to be in Los Angeles, March 22nd, Bituation Room, live at Dynasty Typewriter 3.30 p.m. Obviously, Francesca Furentini, Van Lathen, Ida Rodriguez, perhaps some other

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So see you in the fun half. Okay, Emma, please. Well, I just, I feel that my voice is sorely lacking in the majority report. Wait, what? Look, Sam is unpopular. I do deserve a vacation at Disney World. So, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show. It is Thursday.

I think you need to take a program for Sam. Yes, police. No, no, I'm going to pause you right there. Wait, what? You can't encourage Emma to live like this. And I'll tell you why. So it's offered a twerk? Sushi and poker with the boys.

Twerp, sushi and... That's what we call it the bids. Twerp, sushi and ties. I just think that what you did to Timpool was mean. Free speech. That's not what we're about here. Look at how sad he's become now. You shouldn't even talk about it.

I think you're responsible. I probably am in a certain way, but let's get to the meltdown here. Twirl? Ugh. Sushi and poker. Oh, sushi. I'm sorry, I'm losing my fucking mind. Someone's offered a twirb?

Yeah. Sushi and poker with the boys Logic. Twerp. Sushi and poker with the boys. Boy, boy, boy, twerk. I think I'm like a little kid. A little kid.

I think I'm like, add this debate. Yeah. Like a little kid. I think I'm not trying to be a dip right now, but like, I absolutely think the U.S. should be providing me with a life and kids. That's not what we're talking about here. It's not a fun job.

Twerk. That's all that. That's all that. We're the worst. Cluest to watch. Sam. has like the weight of the world on the shoulders. It was so much easier.

One of the majority of report was just you. You were happy. Let's change the subject. Right. Now, shut up. I don't want people saying reckless things on your program. That's one of the most difficult parts of this show. This is a pro-killing podcast.

I'm thinking maybe it's time we bury the hatchet. Left is best. Trump. Violet twir? Don't be foolish and don't fucking tweet at me and don't bitch. So incredible theme song. I Bumbler. Emma Viglin, absolutely one of my favorite people.

actually not just in the game like period we are back it is the fun half Popeye says I just called my senators Peters and Slocke in Michigan no war in Iran no supplemental funding no offensive or defensive weapons to Israel and get Schumer out of leadership call at congresswoman to leave too but she's on the same page already great job future reactionary I asked AI to diagnose me and it recommended a mother of all bombs suppository okay Operation Epstein Fury Breaking Mike Johnson has told Representative Tony Gonzalez

to drop his re-election bid. Interesting. Jerry at the Beach, they made the Brutelist for $10 million. You're telling me the ads cost this much. They made the Brutalist for $10 million? I mean, look, I know some people found it pretentious, but I loved the Brutalist. I also saw it in 70 millimeter, so.

And it had an intermission. More long movies should have intermissions. All long movies should have intermissions. Yeah. And my local theater, like if a movie is not after 8 p.m., but if it's longer than two hours, there's an intermission at the halfway mark for like 10 minutes. Oh, really?

Yeah. And I've never understood why like other theaters don't do that. People say it breaks immersion. I'm like, you're an adult. You need to like get some movie. It's not real. It's not real. 877 Cars for Kids

1-877 Cars for Kids says there's nothing except the Iranian there's nothing the Iranian government can do that I will condemn except surrender I mean not nothing that they can do you could probably condemn them slaughtering the protesters in the streets

I think that we can hold those two thoughts in the same in the same place unbelievable says the United States's veil of privilege is tearing I'd like to see some guests who can speak to preparing for that or recommendations for previous broadcasts on it. You know, I guess if you're referring to the United States is kind of belligerence and not facing blowback domestically. I mean, you know, 9-11 was an example of that blowback, but it's part of why U.S. Empire has some durability, despite our actions, is because we are a massive nation that has.

has two theoretically friendly nations to our north and our south. We have immense natural resources. We have, we are also quite removed geographically, except, of course, now Venezuela and Cuba, but for the most part from the wars that we have waged across the world, it's not necessarily that close in proximity. I'm perhaps a little skeptical that that crack is going to be felt. I mean, there'll be small, I think, examples that we're already feeling.

And when it comes to, like, America's place just, I mean, as like the construct. Economically. Like, people's perception of America, tourism and a lot of places are down, which has an impact on the hospitality industry, you know, there are, I think they're going to be, like, consequences for the way that United States is acting, which may be in line with historical trends of like neo-imperialism, but are not really based on the way that America supposedly comports business now. Like things are going to get more expensive, probably, like they already are getting more expensive. The price of gas is going up. You know, there will be blowback not just in the

form of like attacks on our bases overseas. This makes blowback more likely to happen on American soil. It makes, you know, our culture a lot more dangerous as people have violence normalized for them and they feel as though violence is a suitable solution to political issue, especially as we wage war against the, you know, theoretically against the necessary criteria being met by Congress or the, you know, the public support. It's just going to further erode people's faith in any of our institutions to have accountability, their voice.

I mean, the consequences, I think, will be diffused throughout our culture and so hard to pin down fully. So you're going to have to be, like, you know, aware of just everything degrading around you in ways that are, you know, maybe things were already on that path, but like faster. Right. But I mean, yeah, I mean, you've seen this even post-COVID, the acceleration of like the cost of living crisis. But this is a long-term trend for people who live in this country, which is that your wages are going to suck.

The necessities of life are going to be more and more something you need to put on credit. We have a video that we played that video of that woman calling into C-SPAN talking about snap cuts and how tight her food budget is and how much weight you. she's losing in her 60s. That has 300,000 views. It's because that is a widespread issue. This stuff is, we are killing ourselves by not getting control of the military that has been wasting money by just bringing death. And like for, since Vietnam, like the sort of dynamic where we have now where missiles,

the missile companies are going to benefit from this, you know, natural gas companies. are going to benefit from this day. I'll see the money rolling in. And the only cost is, oh, a few soldiers die on a base in one of our Gulf allies country. But that's a small price to pay. You can minimize that. Just thank them for their service. And the money will continue rolling in.

The same thing happened in Vietnam, where, yeah, we lost soldiers. But every single time the helicopter went down, guess what? That was money for bail helicopter. Yeah. Wait, the one half is still unlisted in the first half is still up. It's okay. Sorry, go on, Brandon. I will just say, I mean, I think, you know, the impacts of the mythology of the United States, like, being sort of stripped away from its own citizenry in the rest of the world, it's just going to have a lot of effects.

You know, it's going to have a lot of effects on, like, the national, like, feeling, a lot of effects on how people interact with us. And so it's going to be hard to, like, I think, pin down to just, like, one quantifiable thing, like, the GDP goes down or, like, the stock market. It's going to be something that you just like, you know, the vibe is just going to shift. too. Yeah, yeah. And we'll get back to Iran in a sec. I just wanted to make sure we got to some of these stories because I know we all have many rantings and ratings and opinions about yet another offensive, horrific criminal war in the Middle East. But this came to my attention, this Washington Post clip of this deputy opinion editor there. Now, a few weeks ago, the one Washington Post laid off around 300 employees, which is one third of their staff.

This is after they had other rounds of layoffs in 2023, 2024, post the Bezos acquisition of the paper. They're trying to blame this, like, the layoffs on the subscription exodus, which happened after Jeff, after the paper was, wanted to endorse Kamala Harris, the editorial board. and because Jeff Bezos and other oligarchs that own papers were afraid of what that would mean if Trump were to win, that endorsement was killed. Same thing with the LA Times. Patrick Sun-Shiong bought the LA Times, and that also happened. another billionaire who bought our papers also killed their endorsement of Kamala Harris telling the editorial board what they can and cannot do. They're not getting into it for the profit, folks.

And hedge funds have been purchasing media companies en masse. There's this company called Alton Global Capital. That's a hedge fund that owns over 200 publications in this country through different subsidiaries. And, you know, let alone local news channels, being bought up by conglomerates like Sinclair broadcasting that we've covered on this show. Like there is a real problem right now with capitalists and slash billionaires owning our press, gutting newsrooms.

And we just don't have enough reporting specifically also to keep up with the news in this fascist Trump era where they're all about shock and awe and flooding the zone. Brandon, go ahead. You want to say something? Oh, no. I wasn't going to say anything. But you're right, 100%. And this is like a cycle that perpetuates itself where like people's faith in these institutions are eroded by billionaires buying it, making these decisions.

They stop, you know, subscribing. So billionaires have more excuses. It's the same cycle of austerity. You delegitimize and then you defund and then you like privatize to fully because with that, I mean, there's always been these kinds of implicit demands, I think, made of newsrooms at the behest of, you know, our American legacy media. But it's no longer enough for these demands to be implicit because Trump is president. You have to show your loyalty. You can't just do it. You have to show your loyalty.

Otherwise, it doesn't count. And then that has effects down at the paper and at the editorial level, because that brings me back to this video where Senator Bernie Sanders and Rokana on the federal level have introduced the idea, introduced legislation that would impose a 5% annual wealth tax on billionaires in the United States. that's a little under a thousand and that would raise a lot of revenue to fund social programs. It's a great place to start. Something similar is being proposed in California, being opposed by Gavin Newsom. But here is the deputy opinion editor

at the Washington Post, again, owned by one of the richest people on the planet, Jeff Bezos, who has some opinions about, you guessed it, the billionaire tax idea. Bernie Sanders is going to war with the American. American dream. He openly admits that the goal of his new wealth tax plan is to seize half the fortunes of our country's most successful people. Why? To fund a four and a half trillion dollar progressive fantasy to pay for things like universal basic income and government run health care. It's not about raising revenue though. Fundamentally, this is about punishing success. Bernie doesn't

think there should be any billionaires. So he's pushing this idea to make it an ultimate litmus test for any Democrat running for president in 2028. He wants them all to endorse his plan. But understand this. This isn't a tax on what you earn. It's a 5% tax on everything you own every single year. Beyond that, it makes zero cents in the real world. Walthy people don't have billions of dollars sitting around in checking accounts. Their money's tied up in businesses, houses, startup shares. A tech founder would be forced to sell off chunks of their own company just to pay the IRS before they've ever made a profit. And the government would have to hire 30. thousands more bureaucrats just to argue with lawyers over what a startup or a painting is actually worth.

Bernie assumes that American capitalism is a magical machine. We'll just keep pumping out money no matter how many anchors he tries to tie it down with. But history proves it's not. If you punish the people driving. Okay, we have to back up. We have to take some of the stuff case by case. The endless amount of money, that's why we can't let billionaires keep it. in their fucking bank accounts and keep the phone.

Like that's actually the problem is they're hoarding it. Yeah. Well, the problem is not that they're keeping it in their bank accounts because that's why they try to get around it. They're like, the problem is that billionaires leave all of their money in like stocks and options and businesses not to support those businesses,

not to prevent, not to like fund them and pay the employees, but to avoid being taxed on realized gains, to avoid being taxed on income. That's why every CEO takes a $1, a $1 salary, but takes all of their money and stock options, which they didn't get loans from, like, the bank for that they don't pay back any real pace

because it's all just like a shell game to keep them from, like, paying taxes, a shell game that a lot of institutions are in on, and that's why we need these sorts of things. Because, you know, billionaires are so smart. They're so smart that they can get around taxes. That's why we have to, like, avoid those loopholes. But I don't understand why you're not expressing more sympathy

for the fact that it might cause the billionaire's team of accountants some headaches, are tied up in assets and it might cause some problems for them when they have to pay the five percent billionaire tax when we're at levels of incoming wealth inequality that exceed the gilded age. And we're hitting records of credit card debt over and over again month by month and subprime auto delinquencies hitting records month by month. You know, I mean, can't you think of the bureaucratic issues that might be involved for the accountants that they're going to have to deal with the kind of paperwork here? Also, the framing is amazing.

when he talks about billionaires, he says that, uh, this country's most successful people. I just, how can you not watch that video and not connected to the layoffs that we just saw weeks ago? This is somebody who is auditioning on his knees. I'll just say his name is a billionaire boss. His name is ho man. Hold himself out. He is a ho. You're a ho, James.

You're a ho, James. And I just wanted to say this thing. This Bernie's going after the American dream. When the fuck? When the fuck did the American dream become being a billionaire? The American dream was you had a functioning neighborhood where you could own a house and like enjoy a life with your neighbors and family. This idea became you can be a rapacious greed monster like the guy who pays home ends wages. I'm sorry, bro.

That's not ever been anybody's idea of the American dream. But the American dream he's talking about here is actually he betrays the fact that it's unattainable in this current economy because if the American dream is becoming a billionaire, there's in terms of Americans, the ones who would be susceptible to this tax that we're talking about, it's less than a thousand people. So it is pretty much unachievable in the country of over 300 million. It's a stupid idea. Nobody should be allowed to do it. And guess what? When we taxed high incomes at 90 percent and it was harder and harder to amass this kind of. of wealth, the economy was way more efficient. There was way more money, money pumping through it because it wasn't being hoarded by parasites. Well, I mean, also he's relying on most Americans hating poor people. And so like not wanting to identify themselves as not doing as well as, you know, billionaires. Because at a certain point, it's just like, you know, you got to grow up. You know, if a 35 year old dude who's like five foot four is telling you he's going to be in the NBA next year,

you know, that's fine. That's like your dream. But like, I don't think, we should base our tax system on you, like, imagining you're going to be in the NBA next year. The same way, like, I don't think we should base our tax system on, like, the fact that, like, 99.9% of Americans have, like, mind-cucked themselves into thinking that they're one lucky day from being a billionaire. That's not just not how it works. They can keep those delusions if they want, but, you know, ultimately, we have to have a functional, like a functional government. Um, for the people, I should say, not for billionaires. When he says that Bernie's trying to make this a litmus test for the 2028 nominees,

like, don't threaten me with a good time. We all are, yeah. Yeah. And you know who's failing that right now is Gavin Newsom, who's opposing this exact, a very similar proposal to fill in the gaps of the Medicaid cuts of 5% billionaire tax in California as he tries to cement himself two plus years out from this as the nominee. Yeah, it might be a problem if there's a litmus test for Gavin Neu. him because he's right now on the side of the billionaires.

I'm going to play a little bit more of this. And then we'll hear from a leading CEO about how he feels about this. But I mean, nice jacket, Homan. Or bureaucrats, just to argue with lawyers. I'm sorry, yes, we should hire more IRS agents to go after these tax cheats. That actually should be like take some of the ICE funding and give it to these bureaucrats and maybe even give them a gun. I mean, not to be, I think that's a barber jacket, which. which is truly like the preppiest.

I went to a private school. Barber jackets are for really preppy assholes, and he's wearing one. Stanford grads. What a startup or a painting is actually worth. Burney assumes that American capitalism is a magical machine. We'll just keep pumping out money, no matter how many anchors he tries to tie it down with.

But history proves him wrong. Stupid metaphor. If you punish the people driving our economy, and investing in the future, the growth stops. Bernie wants to kill the golden goose. Insane. Okay, here's, here's Jensen Wong, who is a CEO of a little company called NVIDIA, which I believe maybe is, at least was.

The only thing keeping our economy from collapsing right now, the bubble that it's created. I'll say like, in terms of like wealth that like is unrealized gains, whatever, I think NVIDIA is value it at a number that it will never be able to be able to. to justify based on this AI bubble. But I do appreciate Jensen Wong saying this about this wealth tax. The industry and those of us that live in California are reviewing the billionaire's tax. The question that a lot of people submitted to me to ask you is, how does that impact that talent pool and the industry and Silicon Valley? Is it something that's of concern to you or it is not? I've got to you. I haven't thought about it even once. We work in Silicon Valley.

because that's where the talent pool is. And we have offices all over the world wherever there's talent. We have offices. We have office in Germany. We have office in, you know, all over the world. And so we chose to live in Silicon Valley. And whatever taxes, I guess, they would like to apply, so be it. And, you know, I'm perfectly fun with it.

It never crossed my mind once. And what's interesting to me about that is almost like the socialist take of, who actually drives these companies? Because to James Holman there, the little lackey for Jeff Bezos, it's the investors, the people who invest in the future. Chesa Wong says, oh, it's the talent of the people who actually work at these companies. That is a slightly different approach, an understanding of what drives the economy. And I'll say, like, I'll take the CEO of Envidio,

over the, um, uh, uh, lick spittle, uh, Chuck that works for, uh, Jeff Bezos. It is, it is amazing, though, that these guys like, homan truly think that like, and, and the Nvidia CEO put it out perfectly that he even think of it. Like, these guys have so much money. They, it, it has no of any sort of tax or anything like that. It's just the cost of doing business. They don't think of it because it's, they have so much that whatever you, you're going to tax them, it's just a blip on what they've got.

And they're going to continue to do whatever they need to do to continue to make money. No one's going to pull investments that they think are going to make them tons of money because they're getting taxed a little bit more. It's just ludicrous thinking. This is not like a family who's got to decide whether they could pay for two streaming services or two different cereals depending on where their income is. These companies and these billionaires are just like, oh, okay. Yeah, but they didn't even know they want to do that because it doesn't affect.

me one bit. It's like it's like taking up a penny from someone who's got a million dollars, millions of dollars. That's the equivalent for these billionaires when it comes to these taxes. But say the CEOs were making money that was a little bit more proportionate or say they were just, you know, tens of millionaires, right? What is the actual claim that has an impact on like the innovation of the corporations that they serve? Them hoarding, billionaires hoarding wealth for their personal use is not reflected in the economy. Like they're acting like it's a divine right for these billionaires to be able to acquire this amount of wealth when they could just be getting really, really rich as the CEOs

of their companies, but not that level of rich. Well, I mean, some people would say that it is rooted in a secularized Protestant dogma that presumes that as much, that more money you're able to accumulate on the earth, you know, dictates how favored you are by God. I don't know if people are still like directly attaching these things to that. But certainly I think there is a moral story here that people still tell. Maybe not necessarily a religious one the same way you see from like those are preachers in the South gold rings. But there is still a moral story that's being told about accumulating large amounts of wealth in our society that people conflate with like a practical reality of what that actually does to a society.

And so people go like, no, it's, you know, it's immoral to take money from someone who, earned it and give it to people who didn't earn it because you disincentivize those people from doing the right thing. And they think that that, like that very lazy moral story that I would still argue was rooted in like a secularized Christian dogma, if, you know, abstracted now, if like, secularized now is not, doesn't map onto like what makes a best society, what makes an equal society, what makes the most functional society. But we see that a lot with these kinds of things. When it comes to how we should treat crime, it's like a very punitive solution. that doesn't stop crime, but it fits into people's, like, moral tale about how crime should be treated, how criminal should be treated.

And this is very similar about, like, what poor people should be treated like and what rich people deserve as opposed to, like, what makes society, like, work best, most efficient, right? Because, like, you said, you know, I can't deny that if you have billions of dollars and someone gives you a check or not check, you know, a bill for $1 billion that you won't go like, that's a lot of money, right? But it won't materially impact your life. Like, no matter how much Elon Musk cries online, like, we know, another billion dollar, you're not going to spend it on anything. And so for the sake of our economy, it's wasted. It might as well not be doing anything. It's not useful to us, but people don't think of it that way because they slap a lazy moral narrative onto, like, the accumulation of wealth that is, you know, it's just not related to how, like, society works. It's a delusion.

Yeah, I was just going to say, I think it's pretty clear that, like, the rich and wealthy people who speak out about these things against them are doing so. for political reasons or their own personal morality reasons and not actual financial reasons. And I think that should tell you everything about why they speak out against these sort of taxes on them. And it has nothing to do with their ability to sustain their livelihood or their business. Right.

It's a delusion like the divine rate of kings. People should be aware of the strength of China's economy lately, you know, not only having the car company that even Canadians want to build in there, the massive solar deployment, housing for people. Guess what? China has lost over a third of its dollar billionaires since 2021,

the number dropping from about 1,200 to 753. They're killing the goose that laid the golden egg, guys. Actually, it turns out that you don't need to foster billionaires. You know who needs it? People like James Holman Who want to be there to say whatever Jeff Bezos says Of course Like Matt Iglesias

Yes, the other day On the stage with that DA from San Francisco Where they're talking about unions Got to stop going after these wealth creators Yeah, of course those people would say that You wouldn't hear about them if it wasn't for wealthy people They are there to lie for wealthy people To give you the motivated reason

Of the people who are hoarding wealth And I'll say It was one thing when America was like just the most powerful economy in the world, which is something that I barely remember as somebody who's 37, we're not anymore. We're getting destroyed competitively

because we're allowing these people, people like Jeff Bezos, to run our country to the fucking ground. Yep. Some IAMs here. Cole from Little Rock, what's funny is that the actual teachings of Jesus on wealth accumulation pretty clearly outline how evil being obscenely wealthy is, but

the Protestant work ethic got in the way. I mean, capitalism and the Nike works through it, and then you have prosperity gospel and stuff like that here in the United States. But we will be playing a clip probably later of Lindsey Graham speaking about his religious

justifications for the bombing of Iran. But it's completely a psychosis in this country. I just, sorry. I mean, you have a point that finished making? Breaking news. Christy Noem has just been fired. What? According to Donald Trump on truth social,

this is breaking right now. People are reporting it. You know, all of the normal sources, you know, tweeting about it. I am pleased to announce that the highly respect

the United States Senator from Great State of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullen, will become the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. DHS, effective March 31st, 2026, the current secretary, Christy Noam, who has served us well and has had numerous and

spectacular results, open parentheses, especially on the border, exclamation point, close parentheses, we'll be moving to be a special envoy for the shield of the Americas. Is that like a Marvel thing? I don't even know if that's, if I could talk about that as a demotion. It's almost like a public humil, like, like, it's almost like a public spanking. I don't want to give that imagery out there. But like, from DHS secretary to this made up thing that sounds like Marvel. Yeah.

Our new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere. Oh, is this part of the Don Roe doctrine? Okay. We are announcing on Saturday in Doral, Florida. I thank Christy for her service at Homeland. Okay. At homeland? Like the show?

Right. I know. Put it in quotes. Like, yeah. Okay. The rest of it is from Mark Wayne, where they, and he makes sure to emphasize that Mark Wayne is the only Native American in the Senate. Wow.

So Mark Wayne Mullen going out there and completely tripping over himself. Paid off. About the Iran War paid off. Nice. Yeah. Senator is so great they named him twice. Mark Wayne Mullen. Well, glad we did that whole segment on Trump probably firing Christine Nome.

We could have saved it for right now and it really would have had some kick. Actually, I mean, I think like Dorsey can probably just tag this on. There you go. There you go. I mean, honestly, like news alert after the opening segment. Or maybe opening, open with it and say like, hey, everything that follows was, whatever happened after. I mean, it's just a few days ago, Mark Wayne Mullen was in front of an escalator going,

look, this is war. And they're like, so it's a war? And he goes, no, it's not war. And then they're like, come up this guy. That guy knows how to lie, even when he's on camera, saying it 15 seconds before. That's the kind of guy that we need at DHS. I mean, if they're going to keep killing people, that's a great asset. Honestly, the best time to make a prediction is right before it happens.

And so I think you guys made a great decision to talk about it earlier in the stream because this news is just dropping. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you for the update. Breaking news updates from Brandon. We'll open up the phone lines in just a sec, but I want to make sure we just got to this 9 and 10 here story while we're here. So Jared Polis, the governor of Colorado, is kind of in the running right now for the worst Democrat in the country. It's a little under the radar because he's the governor of Colorado and not on the federal level.

But he's literally a longtime libertarian. Yeah. And the abundance movement loves this dude. He loves, he's all about unleashing the private sector for construction. Isn't that their whole thing? Jared Polis is on their radar. It's what they like him, they like Josh Shapiro, who are their other favorite Democrats?

Pretty much all the worst ones, I would imagine. But also Zoron, because he supports zoning reform, abundance, but not really. Anyway. Now, Jared Polis is just, he also kind of has some of the Gavin Newsom in him where he's a poster. And there are some older Democratic Party. people that are really impressed by somebody who knows how to use social media. But he is currently engaging, like considering apparently or is eager to pardon this woman Tina Peters, who people may remember her as the woman who was sentenced to, I think, like, nine

years in prison because she was trying to literally tamper with. voting machines in the 2020 election on Donald Trump's behalf. There's a video of a judge sentencing her showing that she has shown no contrition. Here it is. Let's just play it. Oh, that's the whole segment. No, well, we could just start it from the beginning because this guy's a good local news reporter. We've played him before.

Yeah. His name I haven't tried. Kyle Clark. Right. At NBC 9 in Denver. Here he is explaining the story. he got police on the phone. Like, why are you considering pardoning this election denier person?

Especially because there's a headline in the Colorado Sun showing that zero Democrats in the Colorado legislature think that he should reduce her sentence. And they're all speaking out, all 66 opposing their own governor here saying this is insane. She's shown no contrition. We can't be rewarding a rewarding election deniers right now, especially as Trump is going to ramp up efforts to try to rig the election. This sends a signal, like Trump did, pardoning all those January 6ers, that it's open season on election, on tampering with elections. But here's this report and him speaking to the governor, Kyle Clark. Colorado's governor is ready to hand Tina Peters a get out of jail free card if she's willing to do the one thing she hasn't done yet. Show remorse for her crime of leading a breach of Colorado's voting systems.

Peters and President Trump, of course, are not one bit, sorry. They say Peters is a political prisoner, that her nine-year sentence is unfair, and that Colorado is going to be punished until she's free. Democratic Governor Jared Polis made it pretty clear to me late this afternoon. The only thing standing between Tina Peters and her freedom is her showing remorse. Has your view of whether Tina Peters deserved clemency changed over time, or are people just interpreting your words differently? This one has always stood out to me, Kyle, as a very long sentence. Just to put things in perspective, we have, like, 18,000 or so prisoners. We cannot find any other nonviolent first-time offenders over 70 in our entire system.

So I haven't seen a single one. So on its... You try to coup. That's... Okay. She broke in. She broke in. But, like, again, like, nonviolence, like, I got to say, um, assaulting someone.

one on the street is less of a problem to me than trying to undercut democracy. The fuck are you talking about? Yeah. First time offenders over 70 in our entire system. So I haven't seen a single one. So on its face, this would be a good applicant. Now, you have to put on top of that, of course, the impact of the crime, the notoriety of the crime, what she actually did.

Tina Peters shows no remorse, takes no accountability or responsibility. Does that matter? Yes, that is a very important thing. part. So what she would have to show, you know, in any type of successful clemency application would be appropriate contrition, apologies. That's the kind of thing that I would be looking for. I've looked for it in other cases. It's not the only thing, Kyle. There's also sentencing disparities. That's one of the issues here. Age and health are a factor. It was cited in a few of the ones you looked at, but absolutely how an inmate plans on making good with any time reduction that they

receive is part of what I look at. There are times that it seems to me like you want to give her clemency more than she wants it, right? Because if she's in, she's a martyr. And it seems to me like you've been working really hard to come up with a justification to give her clemency when she won't do so much as to say, yeah, I broke the law and I'm sorry. I'm not looking at, you know, is she a martyr, is she not? I'm not looking at what, you know, you or what the president or what the Democrats say. I really just try to look at,

does this, you know, meet my standards in terms of, is there a disparate sentence? I believe there is here. Is there contrition and apology? We need to see that. We're not going to. So, um, the question is, is like, what is the quid pro quo? What is the exchange that? Polis is speaking about that is happening behind the scenes. I mean, he's pretending like he's not talking to Donald Trump about this. Really? You're just freelancing on this one as Trump has talked about her as essentially the Nelson Mandela of our time. Oh, I was sorry, Kirk.

Yes, I'm sorry. Perhaps she's the Martin Luther King Jr. of our time. She's on Robin Island. I mean, being locked up and politically persecuted. Here it is, as I headline, we can just show the headline. Not a single Democrat in the Colorado legislature. legislature says Jared Polis should reduce Tina Pierce his sentence he appears set to do so anyways what is he getting in exchange and it seems like based on my understanding of his actual

politics it's probably not going to be anything that significant I mean it seems like you know remorse and rehabilitation is like the major part of a prison sentence and like seems like the bare minimum to being uh you know considered for clemency. And the fact that she can't even do that and he's still considering this is ludicrous. It's ludicrous. Like, you could, you could believe, I disagree, but you could believe that her sentence is too long. And maybe I could be convinced of that too. But the fact that she is refusing to learn a lesson or realize she was wrong immediately throws any sort of belief that that that could be the case out the window. Like, that's the major part of a prison

sentence. It's not even though a lot of people in this country think it's about punishment. No, it's about rehabilitation and shoulder divorce. And she's shown none of that. So it seems like prison hasn't done nothing to her. It hasn't done its job. Also, it's not clear she won't offend again, right? That's another part of rehabilitation where it's like if she's not, like, there's an election coming up. You want her out by the midterms to reoffend again. This is not what people mean when they say dims are soft on crime, but it is what, you know, people need to be focused on because our system is soft on a very specific type of crime, which is one of the criticisms of our police state that, you know, as long as you fit the right, take the right boxes,

you will get let out. Like, we'll get down on Trump. So it's because Trump doesn't have control over this. She would have been pardoned probably on day one if this was a federal sentence. But the only one who can do so is the governor of Colorado. And, you know, she at the start of this investigation, Tina Peters, even as she was being investigated, she was attending a cybersecurity conference held by Mike Lindell.

At her sentencing, she refused to apologize, and the judge laid that out. And still to this day, she is unrepenting because she views herself as this kind of martyr, which means that, yeah, she's going to offend again. In some capacity,

there's no chance that she doesn't. Trump 100% would have pardoned her alongside all the sex offenders he parted regarding January 6th. Yeah. It was been an app, like he would have done it the same day. It would have pardoned her, but I

can't because of the state of, symbolic. I mean, yeah. I mean, but this, honestly, this is the face of voter fraud in America. And so far that voter fraud is a problem in America. It is right wing, Republican, especially under Trump, doing stuff like this. This is not

the only case of something like this has happened. But this is what voter fraud looks like. It's not 200 mules or 2,000. in mules or any number of jackasses like coming and stuff in voter boxes well there's actually a number of jackasses involved. Oh, hell.

I oh, but yeah. Peters holds a degree in holistic nutrition from the non-accredited correspondent school Clayton College of Natural Health. She sold alternative medicine products in association with a multi-level marketing company named Nicken. Peters also helped manage

her former husband's construction company. Oh, something her and Marjor Taylor Green She's going to be in the Maha movement soon. She's going to be in the HHS secretary's office with a resume like that. Honestly, yes, next up for, I mean, maybe Bobby Kennedy will do something. Actually, they learned some good stuff when she was in prison a lot to make different things with limited types of supplies. The toilet wine was oxygenated. Raw toilet wine is going on.

going on the new food pyramid. It's going to be right under TRT. The toilet wine's fermentation process did not use any additives. Okay, we're going to open up the phone lines. 646, 257, 309, 20. A majority enthusiast, this lady would be Trump's top election CEO person for sure. Congressional baseball fan.

Say what you will about Tina Peters, but she's the only person in America who knows those White House pardoned Turkey's who knows what those White House pardoned turkeys feel like every year. Sam's mailman, I know people thought the brutalist was pretentious, but I, pauses to put on Monaco, watch it in 70mm. Fair enough. Fair enough. Graham from page Fountains of Mark Wayne. Fountains of Wayne is a North Jersey staple, my friend.

They're Fountains of Wayne. The band is from Fountains of Wayne, but they named it after what root is it off of actually I'm literally becoming Sam oh my God let's halt the show and just figure this out What route in New Jersey are Fountains of Wayne?

Fountains of Wayne is a is a fountain store and it's very gaudy and it's very New Jersey and they yeah so but I don't want to spend 10 minutes on my where I grew up lest I literally turned it to Sam

on a daily basis. Okay. Bull Prague. Falka's official Mark Wayne Mullen replacing Chrissy Nell. I mean, I don't care. Saturn Girl, hey, Emma, tell Ramona Frankenstein, I love her.

Well, there you go. Sickle-up economy. There was a time when Buffett and even Gates pre-Epsy knowledge were actually saying they should probably be taxed more. Mildly refreshing to hear a big wig say it's not going to break the economy, which is indicative of bad trickle down infected the narrative and subverted the American dream.

Well, yeah, to be clear, if the CEOs, including Wong, were 100% in agreement that they shouldn't be taxed, that we shouldn't list of them. The world, the type of revolution the world needs is the one where those people get dictated to until they no longer have the ability to claw back this kind of power ever again. Cat Leck, holy shit, this guy is selling the plan so effing hard, hire his ass. you mean oh the Washington Post guy hopeful one am I supposed to feel bad for billionaires with tied up funds I'm still paying for surgery

three years on miss me right I mean the the idea that they couldn't figure out how to deal with it deal with it also they tied up for that reason like for the most part these funds are tied up for it to create this argument they're not tied up in the most part for the most part for like positive reasons for our economy or their business they're just

it's just part of like making this argument That guy had like crypto pumper voice though, like the same kind of like voice that they've doing those like Bitcoin videos online. It kind of put me on edge. Yeah. Kentucky left this. Emma, you should go on Hassan stream while you're in L.A. Talk to him about it.

He's not going to be in town. This is the second time this has happened when I've been out there and he has not been in town, which stinks. But turns out he's pretty busy. Jizzy Gillespie says, my name is Jeb. Can I please buy Jeb merch? That's on you. We don't have it on our site.

We got it from somewhere else, I believe. Ad homin, are we sure YouTube isn't censoring, just censoring the massive guns Brandon has for arms? I wish. It's because I love America too much. I played a video of some patriots from the Revolutionary War, and they took the stream right down. Exactly.

YouTube, anti-American. You decide. June Oliver, did you see John Stewart's take on Iran attacking everybody? I did. It was awful. embarrassing I mean what the hell

Harambe City Rollers is there a polymarket bet for how much money the billionaire tax video guy took to be a class trader on screen Geordy PhD Van Hollen proposes a no tax

for person slash couple making living wage or less 46K 92K that said he says he would pair with the Cona Sanders billionaire tax Is that good

to my mind paying no tax and getting benefits and money back below 100K following by increasingly progressive tax rate whose bill was this Van Holler

Holland, brackets up to Eisenhower levels at high income levels. That's more important to me. I don't necessarily like the idea of no taxes. I agree. But if you're going to absolutely soak the rich, yeah, sure. Sure. But I would, I don't like, I don't like, you know, just politically we need to be selling the idea of taxation. Because once the playing field is more level, then billionaires don't exist.

You're going to need to get taxes from somewhere. And I do believe that like universal programs should have like consistent taxation across all income levels. And that includes lifting the cap on Social Security, which means that every that that payroll tax should be paid regardless of how much money you're making. And it should not be capped at the what like 170K that it's at now. I'm saying that off the top of my head. But I forget. Let's take a call or two here. calling from a 310 area code who's this where you're calling from hi this is mario i'm over here in

los angeles mario in los angeles what's on your mind hi so i wanted to do a shout out to la taco and harbor peace patrols they've been doing a lot of good job covering the dhs yeah basically attack over here in los angeles that happens every day it doesn't stop i guess the question is are we ever going to see i don't know if you platform butchware yet. He's running for governor in the Green Party. I don't know. I haven't heard about it. No, we're, we kind of stay out of the governor's

races. We're also pretty Green Party skeptical, my guy. But if he gets traction, maybe we'll reconsider. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Oh, thank you. I mean, I have yet to watch Tom Steyer on Hassan's stream. I'd be curious how that went and what

answers Hassan got to probably some questions about Gaza and well tax stuff like that. Steyer drives me nuts. The whole thing of, oh yeah, actually Bernie was right. I'm sorry for spending huge amounts of sums in a campaign to

basically do with what James Holman was saying. Yeah, but the fact that he supports it now, I get it. But who's who in that California governor race is like? I'm not a big fan of whichware either. Yeah, yeah, well, it seems like, I mean,

Steyer might be the best option there, but I need to look more into it before I make it. Look, if the American Green Party could get traction like the British Green Party has, you know, we'll reconsider a lot of this stuff. I don't think there is a suitable amount of reflection as to why the Green Party hasn't achieved any traction in this country for this amount of time, besides saying people who vote Democrat need to stop doing that. And actually, they're the blame for the direction of this country, I think,

is a dumb analysis that has got them loathed. calling from a 417 area code who's this where you're calling from hi this is jean badgeline calling in how's it going am i hope you doing well i'm doing all right how about you well very stressful time for all of us who have uh friends and family in the region i mean my family is obviously very stressed because uh my wife's family is getting bummed by the americans and obviously my friends and family are getting bombed by iran at the moment. And I spoke to Matt this morning and asked if I could call and just to kind of clear the

record with what is happening with this so-called Kurdish invasion of Iran at the moment and the big disinformation campaign that's taking place. And, you know, the kind of dangerous effects that it has on Kurdish people in the region. And, you know, the attitude of many people in the West, you know, a lot of anti-Kurdish sort of sentiment is a picking up both in the region and amongst leftists here. You know, I'm not criticizing anyone saying that particularly, you know, like they're wrong, but for example, you know, I heard Hassan, somebody sent me a link that, you know, associating the Kurdish movement with Israel, which obviously is a kind of a very dangerous discourse

within the region. And, you know, what really is happening here is, you know, people aren't understanding the political dynamics that are taking place. For example, when you say the Kurds, who do you mean? The Iraqi Kurds or the Iranian Kurds, which forces are invading? Well, not because this is all fabricated, but which forces are crossing the border. For example, last night Fox News had a headline that thousands of Iraqi Kurds are crossing into Iran, which is totally fabricated. You know, there's rumors that the CIA is arming Kurdish, Iranian-Kurdish militias, and there's, you know, just an enormous amount of disinformation taking place. There is no Kurdish cross-border operation. We can start with the Iraqi Kurds.

The Iraqi Kurds are often portrayed as being, you know, just tools of the Americans and Israelis, and of course they have relations with them. But the Iraqi Kurds, you know, control an autonomous region, which is not a sovereign state, but, you know, has, like, its own parliament, its own, armed forces, you know, have lots of internal problems, does corruption accept, etc., but the Iraqi-Kurdish political leadership has a lot to lose, and while they have relations with the United States, they also have close relations with Turkey. There are Turkish military bases inside Iraqi Kurdistan. They also have close relations with the Iranians, the Iraqi-Kurdish leadership, both

the Kurdistan Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, both of which, like the biggest Iraqi-Kurdish parties. They were in Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. They had support from the Iranian government, and, you know, although the relations are not perfect, they have open, you know, open relationships with them. During the ISIS war, the Iranians provided, you know, weapons to the Iraqi Kurds to repel ISIS. So, you know, there is not, you know, the Iraqi Kurds play a balancing act. And exactly at the time as these rumors and these stories were being leaked in CNN, in other American media of things. If you followed the Kurdish news,

the Iraqi-Kurdish political parties were frantically, you know, calling the Iranians who were already bombarding American bases there and also Iranian-Kurdish bases there heavily. And talking about, you know, beefing up border security statements from all these parties have said, we're not going to let the region be used as a base to, attack Iran, and there's a kind of desire to remain neutral in this conflict. More reporting is coming out is that the Trump administration is putting very heavy pressure on them. This has been reported in the Washington Post, and so in my context in Iraqi Kurdistan

said that threats are getting heavier and heavier upon them. Their threats to seize the assets, apparently, of Kurdish leaders from Iraq in the United States. They're basically telling them you're with us or against us, but of course that would mean expanding the war into Iraq, Kurdistan. And not only would they face an attack from Iran, but also the pro-Iranian militias in the south of the country, so they'd end up fighting a two-front war. And as you may imagine, due to recent events in Syria, the Trump administration is not very well trusted by any Kurdish faction at the moment. You know, there's the meme about, you know, the Americans always betray the Kurds.

It's just obviously truth to that, but also Kurdish groups have managed to leverage support from the Americans to, you know, strengthen the opposition. But the Trump administration in particular has, you know, has, as you may remember, during the first term, you know, allowed Turkey to invade parts of Kurdish-controlled Syria. and then during the 2017 Kurdish independence referendum in Iraq, they allowed the central government to see sort of disputed territories, not an existential crisis for the Iraqi Kurds, but nevertheless don't rely on the Americans.

So the Iraqi Kurds have no desire to do this. Then if we turn to the Iranian Kurds, the Iranian-Kurdish opposition forces, which have been based in Iraqi Kurdistan since the 80s, and basically there's a kind of unwritten deal between the Iraqi Kurdish government and the Iranian government, which is, you know, we won't attack these Iranian Kurdish opposition groups provided you keep them away from the border

and don't let them cross the border. So the Iranian Kurdish groups, again, there was talk of the CIA arming them and talking to them, But, you know, there is no evidence they have crossed the border. I've been following the statements of all the Iranian Kurdish leadership. There's a kind of united front of the main Kurdish political parties from Iran, and they are pretty clear that they don't want to get dragged into this conflict. They are very suspicious of obviously the Americans because of what happened in Syria,

but also because of the fear. Now, I don't think this is actually realistic, but, you know, People are worried about the pro-Sha movement. The Shahists are deeply unpopular amongst the Kurdish population in Iran, this kind of propaganda campaign to present the pro-Sha opposition as, you know, like universally popular. This is not the case. They have this kind of deeply nationalist mentality, very chauvinist mentality.

They always talk about separatism amongst the Iranian Kurds. But the fact is, the Iranian-Kurdish political demands, whatever the population might believe, have always been democracy for Iran and some form of territorial autonomy for the Kurdish population. You can disagree or agree with that, but it's not the separation of the state. And they have, you know, all statements directed at the Kurdish population, written in Kurdish, have largely not been to rise up and overthrow the government, but just to desert from the army and to keep yourself safe.

So what is happening, I think, is a deliberate campaign. to provoke an uprising amongst the Iranian Kurds. There's no way Iranian-Kurdish militias have the military power to fight the revolutionary guard, so they would rely on a popular uprising. And I think this is what is happening. There's an attempt to really put Kurds in danger, spread the world, and make it just inevitable that the Kurds get tagged in. And both Iranian and Iraqi Kurds are very wary of doing this. They're not stupid. They do know history, but they have very limited options. All right. Well, Gene, that was a lot of information, but I really appreciate it. And you're absolutely right from even my read on it, just the amount of danger that the Kurds are being

put in right now also by the Trump administration. And you have the reports about, you know, CIA involvement. It's just it, it, the, the up, the protesters, the Kurds as well are being put in danger, by the way, the Trump administration is going about this. Thanks so much for the info. Hey, no problem. Thank you very much. Thank you. Um, all right, I'm second guessing wanting to play this, but I don't know why, because it seems really indulgent, but, uh, okay, we're just going to do it. I just, I, skip an Ernestine Bailey. I was laughing about this so hard last night because, um, I don't know. I, when I, I watched a shame to say a lot of first take as a kid. As I, I didn't have a ton of, uh, you know, friends that were into like football. way I was as a girl. I literally have Skip Bayliss blocked, by the way.

So I was like, I was trying to dip my toe into sports media with, and then, you know, most of my male friends were gay. So I'm just trying, trying some things out. And there's some comfort in me. It was a comfort show, Skip Bayliss and Stephen A. Smith yelling at each other. And now they're both basically right wingers. That's the pipeline for sports media. but Skip posted his thoughts on the war on Iran on the internet last night. Finally. With his wife. I know everyone's been waiting for this.

Yeah. And his wife comes out. Silence was deafening. His wife comes out with this fairly reasonable normie take about what's happened. And listen to then Skip jump in and we won't play the five minutes of mansplaining after it. But there was something about it that tickled me so much. So here is Skip Bayliss of sports media fame and his wife with their take on the war in Iran. Also, if you're listening, tell me if this sounds like an office conference room meeting between Holly and Michael Scott.

Exactly. I talk about a real world issue that has loomed over the entire world because President Trump has done it again. He has bombed Iran. Iran again, Iran, Iran, I don't know which way do you say. This time with assistance from Israel in protection of Israel. Your thoughts? Why? Well, if you go back and you look at what he said during running for his presidency,

he said we're not going to go and fight on foreign soil, and we're not going to go into war again, and we're not going to do the war thing again. And now he's doing it. And I watched on the news this morning. He just said, wait until you see what really is going to come. And now Dubai got bombed. And it's just craziness.

And the oil. Yeah. And oil prices are now jumping. Stock market. We knew that was coming. I don't get it. So I'm just not a political person. No, you're right.

There's so many problems here. I don't know if it's a matter of just flexing his power as here. I can do something that nobody ever thought could be done. I'm going to take down. No, that's not what's happening in my view. Oh, okay. I've told you from the start that all that ultimately matters is protecting Israel. It's biblical.

It's from the word, the ultimate scripture, the word. People sound so crazy when they say this. Anyone who attacks Israel, who tries to take down Israel will not last. And protecting Israel is of the utmost importance to the world. No. And I believe that with all my heart and soul. Wow. Oh, oh, wow.

First, he took out their nuclear facility. with one fell swoop and I told you, I was fine with that and he killed... I think we've heard enough of shit. I told you I was fine with that. Yeah, I was fine with it. What a couple.

What a couple. How are we dig into him? Let me allow him a compliment. 160 plus girls were killed. Will you find with that one too? All right. A totally indulgent segment for me, but I just couldn't go again, Brian.

What we said? Well, I was just going to give him a compliment. that I'm shocked that he's married to a woman his own age. That blew my mind. Honestly. Well, and she's a good sport. You know, those videos,

how every time the Cowboys lose a big game, he needs to record himself crying or lighting a jersey on fire or throwing it in the trash. That's his production assistant. I mean, she's, she's multi-talented. And I love, it's just,

the whole thing, the rest of the video, it's six and a half minutes long is him explaining basically christian zionism to her and how important it is because of god and to protect israel and he believes that trump is acting and he compliments him by saying it's like a return to the george w bush style foreign policy and i there's just there's a lot of like this woman's so timid but she's on the right track and then her husband mansplains how she's actually wrong to think this way for the most insane For the most insane reason possible. Honey, you're getting a little bit emotional.

Let me just lay this down with my masculine understanding is that God, if we do not arm this belligerent psychotic nation to do whatever the fuck it wants to its neighbors, God's going to be mad at us. So it's actually very responsible to give them whatever they want and ask no questions. He's just of that age where like this is the way that a lot of. of like Americans learn Christianity in like you know the post like in the 70s and 80s from

televangelists this is just so so deeply rooted in like Christian Americans understanding Christianity when this is just not biblically accurate I got to they will refer no sorry go on no I mean like and this is what Tucker Carlson is weaponizing too people's lack of understanding of what's actually

in the Bible and just like a memory from like oh Billy Graham's sermons and like when you see like a TV show pastor given one of those like life lessons that sometimes references the bible but the israel of the bible that christians are supposed to believe in if i'm not mistaken refers to like a metaphorical place where like christians are the supporters of christ are not the like the nation state of israel and the land that is like a misinterpretation that became popular and after the six days war in america

as pushed by no israeli propaganda right lockstep with televangelists who pay to educate local priests into thinking this way, but based on the Schofield reference Bible, but this is not like biblically, like accurate in the way like, you know, people who read the Bible without that lens think. I just want to get this turn again. Like, her making this very sensible point. Like, I remember

him saying no. No, that's not what's happening. I don't think that's what it is. Here, let me come hit you with some of the most insane shit you've ever. It really is the Zionist office. It's insane. It's insane. I'm not a political person, but I just don't.

There are so many people I don't know if it's a matter of just I'm just stupid bitch I can do something that nobody ever thought could be done I'm going to take down No, that's not what's happened in my view Okay

I've told you from the start that all that ultimately matters is protecting Israel It's biblical It's all that ultimately matters matter. Like, wow.

She's also, it comes out, I guess she's a Jewish woman that comes out later in the broadcasts. She's like, uh,

but I mean, it kind of is almost metaphorical for how Christian Zionists in this country are like hand holding certain American shoes down a really destructive path

and doing so from a place of like condescension and supposed patriotism but it's actual lunacy. You wonder why men are lost in this country. I mean,

good fucking gracious. This is one of the leading talkers for sports, and he's just an absolute lunatic. And just when she starts disassociating as he mansplains to her, there was something about it when I saw that last night that broke me. And even the decision of Skip to upload this, Ernestine and I share our thoughts on the war in Iran. We roll at the edge of our seat. She gets the first 90 seconds, and then I take five minutes to explain why. God actually wants us to like... Yes, let me put you out on a limb.

You can give your thoughts, and I'm going to tell you why it's wrong for the rest of the video. It looks like he didn't even tell her he was going live for a second there. It looks like she's completely bombarded. Just put her face up. She looks so confused. Oh, man. She looks like he's like questioning a lot of things. I think this is when he says the thing about Israel, she says like, what?

Okay. I've told you from the story. start that all that ultimately matters is protecting Israel. It's beautiful. I've told you from the start. It was in my wedding vow. Don't you know who you married? Okay.

All right. We're going to take one more quick call, read some of my hands to get out of here. calling from a 3-2-1 area code. You were the final caller of the day. Hey, Emma. This is Mika from the space coast of Florida. I just wanted to ask about something Pappi said about Iran trying to assassinate Trump twice, and then he said, we know this for a fact.

Yeah. Do we know this? No, we don't. I had, we had. we had such limited time with grace that I was trying to get to that interview. And if I wanted to get into a protracted thing, I would have gone back and forth with that. But if you were watching live, I think I made a face. But yes, there was disagreement.

I wanted to bring him on for some of his expertise about bombing campaigns. It doesn't mean that, of course, we have all of the same political beliefs. Right, right. Yeah. Well, that's all I wanted to ask. I just thought it was kind of funny. All right. Well, appreciate it there.

I'm glad I got the chance to come. clarify. Thanks so much and stay strong down there in Florida. All right. Thanks to Emma. Thanks, you guys. Bye. All right, guys. Going to read some IMs and get out of here. Majority Report Peace Prize.

Skip Baylis is just a weird dude. He told his wife when they started dating that she would always be second to his career. He also hasn't a strange brother. I think she's third actually. To Israel. To Israel. Maybe fourth to Trump. Strange brother, Rick Bayless, who's

well-respected professional chef. He has his hate obsession of LeBron James is also psychotic. Yes. Actually, the real reason I've never listened to this guy. I can't stand it. I'm not even a huge LeBron guy, but I mean, him and Steve and A, I think, they ruin sports media, my opinion. It's really bad, yeah.

We're in a horrible place now, and it's largely because of their fucking egos. But, you know, as a young Giants fan that wanted to see a Cowboys fan, Skip Bayless cry, it just, that's what that show for. filled for me, which was, you know, New Yorker Stephen A. Smith, just shitting all over Skip, but both are now, apparently, like, basically right-winger's. Skip's not surprising, but...

I mean, Stephen A's longtime fan, or friend with Mark Levins. Yeah, yeah. Luke from Oregon, he even sounds like Michael Scott. This is insane. It was very on-point observation by Brian. El Canypcion, actually, yes,

definitely have Dan McClellan on in regards to Christian nationalism. He's not an atheist, so you might be more willing to have him on. I am an atheist. I don't like the new atheists that are Islamophobes. Sorry, I missed the first part of that I am. RBG chess tattoo. Yes, definitely have Dan McClellan on in regards to Christian nationalism, and he's not an atheist, so you might be more willing to have him on. I don't know. It's such a weird. It's because I've been critical of Sam Harris. Yeah, new atheists. Yeah, they suck.

Up to Richard Dawkins. They give atheism a bad name because they're basically just like race scientists about Muslim people and Middle Eastern people. I mean, Zionist propaganda is to a large extent. I'm a self-hating atheist. I don't like religion. Bing bong. Silly, rambly, L.O.L. Sorry, two babies is hard. I'm not sure what you mean.

Cognitive medbed. This is a less exciting version of the Weinstein. podcast. Dave from Jamaica. Which would I rather listen? I'd actually rather listen to Skip because I like Ernestine. Yes, we like Ernestine. Mike from Texas, okay, here's a new board of peace joke.

Trump is already board of peace. We made that in the title of episode earlier this week. But maybe it's one of the situations where you saw it written out and you thought you came up with it. That's happened to me before. autistic Mandalorian says the verse that the Zionist dips keep quoting from Genesis referring to Jacob who took the name Israel upon being anointed by God

to carry out Abraham's covenant I've been elapsed Catholic for over a decade and I remember that but what the hell is the excuse for the Bible thumpers? Toilet, Noam's time as DHS secretary didn't even last as long as her puppy's time on earth that of heavy bombing and missiles interception in Kuwait right now sirens haven't been this constant in residual areas,

been this constant in a residual area. Ever since the U.S. Embassy was bombed, the embassy is literally centered in residential areas. All right, five more. Snarkinorski. I didn't join the stream until just now, so I don't know if you saw, Kristy Nome got fired.

Please don't send her back to South Dakota. Can we make her an ambassador to the Kyrgyz, Kyrgyz, or something? She's at the, what is it the shield of the Atlantic? Is it called? It's so made up that it's impossible to discern. They're making her like, what is it, the fist of Borovia? Or I forget what it was.

The princess of Genovia. No one watches the princess diaries, obviously, in this crowd. Classic film from my childhood. A congressional baseball fan, say what you want about Tina Peters, but she's the only person. Okay, I already said this. Cedar seeds. I asked you not to cheat on me and you went and did that.

Michael Scott. No, it's more, I think it's, I asked you not, you cheated on me after I specifically asked you not to? Dmesh. Nostradamus, Persia is Iran. Byzantium is north of Israel, so that makes Israel the snake, I guess. Purple or col.

Brandon's point about Tucker weaponizing the Christian Zionist Zell tree makes sense a long generational line. too. Antisemitic boomers love Israel and their anti-Semitic kids think their parents are rubes. It's not like zealot parents teach love for others in human solidarity with their Zionism. And the final

I am of the day. Science is political. Hey everyone. To give some positive news, I got the remarks back from my paper. The reviewers only had minor revision, so I'm on track for a high impact publication and graduation this May. Congratulations.

Yes. Good to end on some good news. Appreciate you all. We will see you tomorrow. It might take all the strength like I to get to where I want. But I know somehow I'm going to get there. I wasn't looking when I just got caught.