The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3600- Casual Friday! Trump's War of Arrogance & Corruption w/ Mehdi Hasan
Episode Date: March 13, 2026It's Casual Friday on The Majority Report On today's program: NBC's Richard Engel speaks with top adviser to Netanyahu, Ophir Falk about what specifically was the reasoning for going into Iran a...t this time to which he has no answer. Stephen Miller needs you to go inside your head and imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon and then you'll understand why we went into Iran at this point. Founder and editor-in-chief of Zeteo, Mehdi Hasan joins the program to wrap up the week's news. In the Fun Half: Senators John Cornyn and Dick Durbin have a tense exchange over the SAVE Act. Sam Altman says that he sees a future where intelligence is a utility that is sold to the public on a meter. NEWSMAX 2 interviews Trump rally attendees about their thoughts on Thomas Massie and the war in Iran. Kathy Hochul seems like she might be closer to approving Mamdani's request of a tax on the ultra-wealthy. A farmer in Iowa details the 77% increase in the price of fertilizer after only 12 days of war in Iran all that and more To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: ROCKET MONEY: Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster: RocketMoney.com/MAJORITY SUNSET LAKE: Head on over to SunsetLakeCBD.com and use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order. Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com
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The majority report with Sam Seder.
It is Friday.
March 13th.
2006. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report.
We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA.
On the program today, the founder and editor-in-chief of Ziteo, Medi Hassan, will be joining us to look back on this week that was, what was,
meanwhile
supposedly
15,000
targets struck in Iran
by the U.S. at this point
Israel continues its
bombardment
of Lebanon
in between
bombing Iran.
Six more U.S. servicemen
dead
after a plane crash
in Iraq, a refueling
plane crash.
U.S. lifts Russian oil embargo temporarily.
Oh, my gosh.
Because it turns out Iran borders the strait of Hermuz, which apparently is where the world gets 20% of its oil.
And it is a very easy thing for them to do to inhibit shipping from there.
we'll
we'll eventually get an expert on to explain how that's possible
in the U.S., of course, we didn't know that.
I knew that.
Meanwhile, no definitive motive yet
determined for the
Michigan Temple attack,
but the killed driver
had several family members,
some of whom included children killed in level.
by Israel in the last couple of days.
U.S. fourth quarter, GDP revised down and January core inflation up to 3.4.
Supreme Court to hear Trump's petition to strip 350,000 Haitians of temporary protected status
as reports from Reuters are that over 1,500 Haitians have been killed by drones from private police.
Senate passes a bipartisan housing bill.
Unclear of Trump will sign it because he just wants the Save Act.
DHS shutdown hits one month.
Doesn't prevent ICE from buying a massive salt litigial.
Salt Lake City warehouse. And lastly, Washington State passes a 9.9% tax for every dollar,
over $1 million that you earn. So squarely targeted at the middle class, according to
multi-millionaires on the West Coast. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome,
ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us.
It is casual Friday.
Casual Friday.
We have some guests in studio.
Happy to have them.
Charlie, Sydney, Gino, guys.
All right.
We got a lot to get to.
I mean, I think you headlined the story yesterday about like how surprised.
apparently the White House was about Iran's ability to inhibit oil coming out of the Straits of Hormuz.
I know for a fact the Iranians have, I mean, mind the Straits of Hormuz.
I guess maybe it was during the Iraq War on multiple occasions.
It is almost inconceivable that they could be this dumb.
but a lot of times that's like what the trick is
is to be able to conceive of people being that dumb.
Yeah.
And here it is actually.
Show the image of this.
No one's ever seen this map before, by the way.
Oh yeah.
This is a secret map that only...
Matt was able to get this.
I smuggled this out of the military.
Yeah.
Brian, this is why Brian was out of the military
because he smuggled this map out.
only. And Matt was able to, when it first came out, all it said on there was straight of Hormuz.
None of the other stuff was there, but Matt took...
I decoded it. Well, he took his Microsoft Aviation. What is it? Microsoft Flight Simulator
2024.
At 2024, he flew over the area and filled in the rest. Some surveillance from the MR.
Team. There we go. Yep. That's, we're doing deep reporting. And it turns out like that is, I think
it's from what I've read it's literally and I should say I'm not a military expert um but from what I've
read and it took me almost probably a full half hour to read all of this maybe that um the when they
talk about choking off like the world oil supplies is what they study it's one of the more obvious
choke points on this planet if you were like an alien looking down on it but but I mean Trump's like
Reading. You lost me at the word read. Yeah, I don't know. Well, what it shows is, A, how stupid these people are.
B, how much Trump just, there was three or four people who came in, all of whom had seemed to have aligned interests.
Whitkoff, Jared Kushner, and B.B. Netanyahu and said, you got to do this. And he's like, okay.
And Hegsith, of course, was an opportunity for him to play war.
Here is an interview with Richard Engel speaking to the top Netanyahu advisor, Ophir Falk.
And they have, and he will tell you, this is about 47 years.
They've wanted to attack Iran for 47 years, but they still don't seem to have an answer to the question as to why.
like a like a like a like a legitimate answer to the question and this is fascinating uh you know
richard angle is not he he's a he's a good reporter he's not uh you know he is not some type of
raging peace nick um and in his basic questioning he trips this guy up and and by the end of
the interview it's just you can't believe this is real world what information did you have that
that Iran was about to carry out an imminent attack?
One good indication was that for 47 years,
they've been saying death to America, death to Israel, believe it.
But these guys, and they were ramping up their capabilities with the ballistic missiles.
They're stringing along the negotiations.
They always lie.
Listen to your negotiators.
They'll tell you the truth.
They're stringing them along.
They always lie, and it was an imminent threat.
And we removed that imminent threat.
I still don't understand what the imminent threat was.
that they were going to attack Israel, attack American bases, attack the U.S.,
and even a threat of what?
All of the above.
All of the above.
They were threatening their neighbors.
Look at what they're doing now.
They're shooting at all their immediate neighbors.
All the masks have revealed.
These guys, it's a death cult.
They're not only called and killed Americans for 47 years and Israelis for 47 years.
Now they're killing their neighbors.
Of course they're attacking.
They're firing now because they're under attack.
There's a hot war going out.
I'm trying to understand what started this war.
They slaughtered thousands, tens of thousands of Iranians.
They slaughtered them on the streets.
30,000 innocent people who were slaughtered on the threes.
The matter of days, it's a death cult.
It's a death cult, and we're removing that threat.
President Trump said that Iran was weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon and potentially using one.
Is that Prime Minister Netanyahu's assessment as well?
Well, we know that they wanted.
We know that they were planning it.
We know that was the imminent threat.
You see today what they're doing with the oil.
They're blackmailing the world with the oil.
They would blackmail the world with the nukes.
President Trump is saving the free world right now.
But were they just weeks away from having a nuclear weapon?
Well, that was their intention.
I don't know if it was weeks or months or whatever it was.
But it was an imminent threat.
Forever.
It could have been weeks.
It could have been months.
it could have been, you know, infinite, infinity. Listen, that's not the point. They have been an
imminent threat for 47 years. I mean, what's notable about 47 years is they're speaking about
the Iranian revolution and the overthrowing of the U.S.-backed brutal Shah and monarchy there,
which was put in place after the United States and the British overthrew the democratically
elected leader of Iran when they dare to say,
hey, maybe can we audit BP to see whether or not they're stealing all of our natural resources and
taking it for themselves? And what did the U.S. and the British do in response? No democracy for you.
We've got to protect our interests. So do you think that's maybe why they're chanting death to America?
But also, like, at what point, I wonder, like, as the 47 years go on?
Right. And you hear them, they're an imminent threat. And you get to around, like,
10 years, you start to go like, hey, maybe it's not like, maybe, maybe they're not an imminent
threat.
Let's wait another 10 years and see if they actually do something.
Well, actually, let's wait 30 years.
No, 40 years.
Actually, let's just not get, we can get to 46, but if we get to 48 years, that is going to be,
that's when it could, they could, they could just, this is a long windup for this imminent threat
that they represent.
This is so embarrassing.
Also when they call...
You've had 47 years to come up with a reason.
And you can't do it.
They call the death cult.
It's just amazing how much of like kind of Israeli spokespeople are just projecting.
But that they're attacking their neighbors.
What are we talking about here?
Israel's bombing seven different countries.
Like they're the ones.
I mean, in Lebanon right now, in just a week,
they've killed almost 700 people, nearly 100 children.
And if we were speaking about it in a non kind of Western focus context, we would be talking
about it as another worldwide war because if this was Europe and there was a country that
was bombing seven different other European countries, do you think that we would be
responding this way as if Iran's the aggressor here?
And then he goes into, after having to shift to like, well, I can't answer really.
why we attacked now. I can only speak to the 47 years we've been keyed up to attack.
He goes, they killed 30,000 of their own people. Now, we don't know the exact numbers. That seems
somewhat inflated, but certainly the Iranian regime did kill thousands of people who have been
protesting. I'm trying to think of another country that just recently killed tens of thousands of
civilians that are either either in their country or not out of their country.
Is it in their, you know, like if it's not in their country, then they invaded and they've
been blockading illegally this other country.
If it's in their country, they've done the same thing.
And that would be Israel, of course.
But it's not just the Israelis who are struggling over, and the guy finished it up in
the proper way, of course, just in case.
Donald Trump actually saw it is like to remind everybody, Donald Trump saved the entire Western world.
And they're really enjoying how much he's saving them in terms of their worries about oil coming out of the straight hormones.
Here is Stephen Miller also sort of desperate to come up with a reason as to why we participated in this invasion of.
or I should say not quite yet invasion, but attack on Iran.
And of course, you know, sometimes it's not enough to be afraid for 47 years.
Sometimes you have to literally manufacture a scenario where it would make sense.
Oh, the 24 mode of thinking.
That is exactly it.
It's like, listen, let's not constrain ourselves with facts.
Let's do a little thought experiment.
So when he sees this straight close and oil prices go to 100, what does the president feel about that?
Like, what's, what is his posture there?
Well, it underscores above all else, Jesse, how this was the last chance that the United States had
to take action against the regime that was planning and plotting to kill Americans,
and that had the ability to strangle, if it wished, global commerce in the future.
backed by long-range missiles, backed by nuclear weapons.
So just again, as a thought expert, imagine if this regime,
that right now, weaker than ever before,
imagine if that regime instead had nuclear weapons,
instead had long-range missiles that could reach an American city,
instead was rich with cash.
Remember, Obama put them on a path
to enrich them with tens of billions of dollars
and have a nuclear weapon right now.
A rich regime that controls commerce through this trade of her military,
and has nuclear weapons, has long-range weapons, think about what a terror that would be
to global commerce into the world.
We know we can't sell the war on its merits to the American public, but if we tell them
about a nightmare that they could possibly have, maybe they'll be afraid enough to get on
board now.
Well, the amazing thing about this is that, which clearly the administration doesn't understand,
they are a rich country that has control of the stray to her moves.
We don't have to imagine that.
That's who they are.
But what if they did it with nukes, with a little hat on top?
I can't even for the life of me.
First off, Obama did not give them money.
He unfroze some accounts of their own money.
A, and B, under the Obama nuke deal, they would have gone back in and re-upped it by now.
But Trump got rid of it.
And they were not just unfreezing their assets for the fun of it.
It was what the Iranians got in exchange for agreeing to have a third party monitor come in and make sure that they weren't building a nuke and keeping their enrichment at levels that is like comically low compared to what you would actually need to build a bomb.
So everything that comes out of that moderating force and totally stable individual, Stephen Miller, is a lie.
We should say there's a report that there has been an expeditionary force of 2,500 Marines sent into the region.
Nobody knows if that is a prelude to some type of invasion of somewhere.
Obviously, you'd need a lot more troops, but there's talk of like, I think it's Karagi Island,
which also seems like they haven't thought this through.
I mean, here's the bottom line.
We're just going to keep hearing more and more fiction.
by the administration to try and justify this complete disaster they have on their hands.
And the only thing that makes it even worse for them is the fact that their MAGA people seem to be fully on board.
They've lost little people around the edges with the Republicans.
But we'll talk more about that with Medi Hassan, who is going to be joining us in just a moment,
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We are back.
Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland on The Majority Report.
Pleasure to welcome back to the program, Medi Asson.
Hello, hello.
Founder, editor, and chief of Ziteo, Medi, thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks so much. Too many titles. Apologies.
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I am smooth.
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So it's now, I guess we're heading into our, is we heading into the third week of this war or the second week of this war?
It is.
Getting into the third week, right?
It has been, like, we're starting to see the articles now where the administration didn't know about the straight of Hormuz.
I just
this is
I don't know how much you were
you know like I just remember the Iraq war
the feeling was very different
60% of the US
was supportive of it we had
there was a so-called coalition
of the willing it was really
you know
they were really more sort of like
not too willing
but they were they were there
this is the complete opposite
it. This war is already as unpopular as the Iraq war, I think, ever was.
Yes.
And they don't, the administration doesn't seem to have had any idea of what they were doing.
Yeah, I think it took about until 2010, 11, 12 to get these levels of unpopularity for the Iraq war, like several years into the occupation, the surge, the civil war.
We had these before the war and certainly in the two weeks since the war began.
Tomorrow is two weeks.
I think it's a complete opposite in some ways, but similar in others.
It's opposite in the way you suggested, which is unpopular before and after.
In every war of my lifetime, every American war of my lifetime, no matter what the public
opposition is, once troops get committed to action, the American public gets behind the war.
Not this time.
The war fatigue is real.
People are not getting behind this war.
They're not buying the justifications for it.
We at Zatea did a joint poll with DropSight earlier this week, found that 52% of Americans
think that Epstein was one of the reasons Trump went to war. They're not buying the distraction.
And the American public was split on whether Donald Trump went to war for American interests or
Israeli interests. So I think that's an interesting polling here just so soon into this war.
So it's different to Iraq in that sense. It's also different in the sense that at least,
at least, I'm going to have to go take a shower after this. George Bush and Dick Cheney went to the
UN, went to Congress. Like as much as I think they are war criminals, well, Cheney's dead,
but George Bush should be at the Hague, not painting paintings. I have to recognize.
that they did send Colin Power with a little vial to try and get a UN Security Council resolution.
They did go to Congress in October of 2002 and get Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and other senators to vote for authorization of force.
That is not what this administration has, this administration has pulled it out of their backside, like the night before and just bombed on Saturday morning with no warning, no heads up, no debate, no discussion, no media rollout, no nothing.
So it's very different in that way.
But just one quick thing, the similarity, you mentioned the Straits of Hormuz.
The similarity is the ignorance, right?
Both administration are led by people who have no clue what they're doing in the Middle East.
On the eve of the invasion of Iraq, a group of Kurdish leaders went to see George Bush in the Oval Office.
They came out and they told Peter Galbraith, a U.S. diplomat at the time, they were stunned that weeks away from the invasion,
George Bush did not know that Iraq was composed of Shia, Sunnis, and Kurds.
That was on the eve of the invasion, the ignorance at the highest level of government of Iraq's history and culture and demographic divides.
This time round, you have people not knowing the difference between.
Khomeini and Khamanai. You have people being shocked that they attacked the Gulf
country, even though Iran has said for a decade, if you attack us, we're going to attack
Gulf countries. And now this reporting that they have no idea that Iran would close the
straight of home is their only piece of leverage. So the ignorance is the same 23 years apart.
And I will say that when Bush and Cheney went to the UN or went on TV, they at least made
the effort to lie. Like honestly, like we just put it. They respected us enough to lie to our
Manufacture consent.
Yeah, I mean, we just watched a clip of Netanyahu's top aide.
And then Stephen Miller, both talking about why attack Iran now, the best the aid could come up with was they've been an imminent threat for 47 years.
May we all live with imminent threats that last that long?
Well, one defining feature of this administration, not just on Iran, but across the board.
is their torturing of the English language,
their complete emptying of terms and words
that we all commonly understood
until Donald Trump came back to office in January 2025.
You know, we used to laugh at Bill Clinton saying
depends what the meaning of is, is.
This administration's approach to every issue
is just to redefine simple words.
Well, I mean, it's the,
they are waging a war on reality,
and it's quite out of the fascist playbook,
because if nothing means anything,
then they can get away with everything.
And what strikes me about our conversation
comparing this to Iraq is how,
since that period, even then, you know, of course, the war machine is going burr. But how disconnected right now our foreign policy is from public opinion at all? Like when we're talking about democracy, and you have this with the Democratic Party too, with Chuck Schumer being in bed with the Israel lobby and the military industrial complex, there is, I think that one of the lessons from the Iraq war was one, Trump says, I can get away with anything, even though this is clearly criminal because there was no prosecution of those war criminals. But two,
This is our playground and it doesn't really matter if we need to bring the American public in because we're more responsive to the lobbies here.
This is also a story of increased political corruption from 20 years ago.
100%. And Donald Trump has learned those lessons. Obviously, he ran on a platform of pretending to be anti-war. We should never forget that.
These people who are claiming betrayal are right. He completely lied to his base about being the anti-war guy. He lied in 2016 when he claimed he'd been opposed to the Iraq war, Emma.
Do you remember he said, I oppose Iraq? And then Andrew K-File at CNN found the tape of Trump saying, you know, he supported the war before and after. So he obviously lied about his own anti-war credentials, which are non-existent. And yes, today, everything is on steroids. You mentioned corruption. Like, we don't even know the extent of the corruption involved in this decision to go to war. Trump is now loudly telling everyone, Jared Kushner told me to invade Iran. It's made up very clear. The question then becomes, why is that not a bigger story? The
president's unelected son-in-law, who at least in the first time had a job in government,
he has no job in government other than to fly around the world would Wipkopf negotiating deals.
He has no business negotiating.
Jared Kushner, who takes money from the Saudis, who invests in Israeli enterprises,
who is close to multiple foreign oligarchs and dictators.
He told you to invade Iran based on his failed negotiations with the Iranians.
What's behind all that?
We know with this administration it's always follow the money.
Yeah, and it's also been clear, I think, when we talk about those negotiations, that whether it was the foreign minister of Oman, who I think now it was two weeks ago, essentially, was on television saying they didn't understand what the Iranians had offered.
They had offered to not stockpile enriched uranium. In other words, the Iranians want to control of their own power for commercial uses, but you cannot build a weapon without.
stockpiling them. Sam, are you trying to suggest that real estate developers from the U.S.
don't understand the details of nuclear enrichment programs and negotiations? That's an outrageous slur.
I almost think that like it was willful even. But yeah, I mean, like, look.
Well, the funny thing about willful, Sam. I would not send Whitkoff to do that. But it's,
there's also, I can imagine a world where there is people of, of competence who do not have also just
huge incentive to not listen to. Like, you know, Whitkoff might have been the perfect guy to send if you were like,
I don't want to make a deal. So go negotiate. With Trump, you never know though, right? Because it could be
evil genius, send Whitkoff and Kushner to be the people who wreck the deal and then go to war.
Or it's Trump's the gullible vessel for the neo-conservatives who says, okay, I'm going to send my best friend and my son-in-law to go do this deal.
And they don't know what the hell they're doing. That's always with this administration, I've never, I'm never, I'm never,
quite sure. It depends what side of the bed I roll out of, whether I want to ascribe evil genius or
dumb incompetence to the Trump administration. Clearly these two people are not qualified to do anything.
Wickcoff shouldn't have been media with Putin. Putin ran circles random. The other day,
he went on TV and said, if Putin says he's not helping the Iranians, I take Putin's word for it,
which is a dumbest thing you could ever say as a U.S. official. And of course, Jared Kushner,
he said on the record, Sam, during the Biden administration, when he was asked, if your father-in-law
becomes president again, will you return to government? He said two reporters on the record, no, I will
not be involved in the next administration. Oh, not involved. You've only been responsible for the biggest
single crisis of this administration. And by the way, people keep saying, I just saw Jonathan Greenblatt
on CNN saying, it's anti-Semitic to suggest Jewish people did this. Well, no one's suggesting
Jewish people did this, except Donald Trump, right? The only person I've said, blame the Jews for this
war is Donald Trump. He said, it's Wickoff and Kushler's fault. I've not blamed the Jews. You've
not blamed the Jews. I've blamed Israel. Israel is not the Jews. I'm definitely blaming the
Israeli government for this war. Let's play this clip because I found it offensive in about three or
four different ways. And it's impressive. He's able to sort of, within the first seconds of this clip,
he does that conflation. He catches himself and conflates Jews with Israel immediately.
And Greenblatt, you know, within the context of America, it would be hard pressed to find an American
in this country who has done more to conflate Judaism with Zionism.
And this is, I believe this segment was in response to a guy who drove his car into a temple in Michigan,
was shot dead by the security guy.
The only thing we know about this guy is that he had family, including children.
I don't know if they were his or young cousins or what, killed by the Israelis in Lebanon in the past couple of days by bombing.
Presumably these children were not Hezbollah and were not, you know, firing Katushes at Israel.
But here he is, I honestly don't know if there's an individual who's more responsible for the conflation of Judaism and Zionism than John.
Jonathan Greenblatt. We are seeing Jewish people, the Jewish state, blamed for the war in the Middle East.
That is wrong. Now, pause it for a second. Israel, both Marco Rubio and Mike Johnson on day one of this war said they went, we went in. They said this, like they were in perfect sync that we attacked Iran because Israel was.
going to attack Iran. And we knew that Iran would strike back at us. So we decided to hit
attack. So we preemptively attacked before Israel could and then attack us. They preemptively attacked,
but they didn't preempt Iran. They preempted Israel. Yeah. Exactly. And here's the thing.
He says the Jewish state, presumably he means Israel. The conflation of the Zionism. The conflation of the Zionists.
and Jews, again, is why we don't know for sure what motivated this guy.
And I'm in obviously no way of forgiving this.
I am my son's bar mitzvah tomorrow.
I certainly, you know, hope that we are safe there.
But it's this type of conflation that creates this.
And if he says Jews, as Netanyahu does, you know, makes sense.
no distinction between Jews around the world and Zionists, then what answer are we giving to
someone like that who? It's been frustrating. Sam, it's frustrated me for years because I've spent
years telling people in the two communities, faith and political that I'm part of. I'm on the left
and I'm in the Muslim community. Those are two communities that are very critical of Israel,
very critical of Zionism, as you know. I've spent years. I'm on the record. You can go look up my
pieces, writing about anti-Semitism, writing about the evils of anti-Semitism, warning people
on the pro-Palestine camp not to fall into the trap of anti-Semitism, right? But I've spent years
telling people, make sure you do not mix up Jewish people with Israel. You do not mix up
synagogues with Israel. You do not mix up Judaism with Zion. I spent years. And people say to me
in response, they're the ones doing it. Right. And this is a problem. So you can hold two thoughts
at the same time. I know it's very hard in the Twitter hot take days. These two
thoughts are not mutually exclusive. Number one, there is absolutely no justification for attacking a
synagogue in the U.S. or anywhere else. All houses of worship should be protected from terrorist attacks
and no synagogue, no Jewish person in the United States should be blamed for what the Israeli
military is doing in Lebanon or Iran. Let's just be very clear about that. That's one clear thought.
The other clear thought is it is not helpful at a time like this for when people like me and others
are saying, let's separate out Israel from the Jewish people for Jonathan Greenblatt and other leaders
of Jewish communal organizations saying, no, no, no, no, no. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're
all the same. We're all Zionists. We back
Israel. We put Israeli flags outside
our buildings. We hold Israeli settlement
drives inside our institutions. That is not
helpful. Of course, that doesn't justify violence.
But it's ridiculously muddying
of the water. It's a ridiculous muddying
of the water. It is helpful for Zionists, though.
It gives them cover, right?
It gives them cover. I mean, but they have
made a deal with the devil
to a degree here by continuously
conflating
Judaism with Zionism
as a way to protect the national
project of Israel on the expansion of it. And so they have put Jewish people on the front lines
to protect that. And then you have, you know, television stations like this continuously amplifying it.
He's making a choice to call it the Jewish state there and not the state of Israel.
And as I say, I've not seen anyone on the left or in the pro-Palestimmyon blame Jews for what
happened last week. I've seen them blame Israel. I've seen Chris Murphy, Brian Schott, Jewish
senator from Hawaii. I've seen them blame Israel. Ruben Gallego, very centrist Democrat, blame Israel.
I've not seen anyone blame the Jews.
As I say, the only person who has blamed Jews for this war is Donald Trump.
He blamed Steve Wickoff and Jared Kushner.
Let's just listen to the rest of this green blatt.
He's honestly the worst.
The Jewish state blamed for the war in the Middle East.
That is wrong.
It is wrong to scapegoat.
It is wrong to hold Jewish people accountable for something you don't like on the other side of the planet.
And we really need leaders on all sides in politics, running for office, podcasters, to stop with the conspiracies, to stop with the accusations, and then tell us what we oppose anti-Semitism.
You don't get to say you're opposed to hate if you're trafficking in hateful conspiracy theories.
Everyone needs to dial down the rhetoric, to take a step back, and to start doing something to stop this epidemic.
I think I met he's going to lose it
I'm going to lose it
I've heard the poor clip I only heard some of it
I you know
I don't know how many
seconds one would have to search
to find him
conflating Jews in this country
with what happens on the other side of the planet
so let me let me have a go
this is a man who says we should not talk
we shouldn't be obsessed or what's happening
on the other side of the world
why then when Donald Trump moved the
embassy illegally from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Why was Greenblatt there doing selfies? Why did he travel
to the other side of the world to take part in that event that was a defiance of international law?
Why did he do that if it was on the other side of the world and nothing to do with American Jews?
Why is it that if you look at the ADL Twitter account and Jonathan Greenblad's Twitter account,
there are very few tweets about the Miami text group from the Republican Party talking about
the Holocaust and making anti-Jewish remarks? But there are lots of tweets about Iran and Palestine
and Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar.
Why is the focus of Greenblat and ADL social media activities
always about Israel and Iran
and so little about the anti-Semitic attacks
from the right here in the US
and anti-Semitic statements from Republican politicians?
And by the way, the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism,
which a lot of people on the left don't like.
A lot of people in the Palestinian movement don't like
because it makes some of the criticisms of Israel,
anti-Zionist criticism is anti-Semitic.
But even that definition, which Greenblatt likes,
says you cannot conflate Jews with Israel.
So he's defying his own definition of
anti-Semitism live on CNN by conflating Jewish people with the Jewish state.
And when he says conspiracy theory, I interviewed Ben Rhodes.
We just put it out this morning, the former Deputy National Security Vazzo under Obama.
He made the point.
Are we supposed to ignore our own eyes and ears?
Benjamin Netanyahu is on TV saying, I yearned.
I dreamed for this war for 40 years.
And Donald Trump's the first president who let me do it.
He's the first president who listened to me.
So I'm supposed to ignore the prime minister of the Jewish state who is telling me 40 years I
wanted this war and I finally got it.
And if I say that, that makes me a conspiracy theorist.
These people have, again, lost all meaning for all words.
And in addition to the conflation, that kind of impulse to tell people to not believe their lying eyes and ears is also going to increase anti-Semitism.
Because it underscores the trope or, you know, the belief that, you know, you could say Zionists have control of many parts of our media.
but we know that Zionism, you can be a Christian Zionist, you can be a Jewish Zionist,
that, you know, when you have like CBS being taken over by the Ellisons and Barry Weiss and this
heavy hand in their coverage, and you see that coming out of CNN, like it creates this
lack of, fundamental lack of trust between the people that they're consuming this kind of content
and the people that they're putting it out there.
People are not dumb.
Yeah.
People are not dumb.
And by the way, we have an administration and Israeli and American government, the only good things
about Trump and Netanyahu versus Bush and Cheney's lives.
They do say the quiet part out loud.
So Peter Hexas said this morning, David Ellison cannot take over CNN fast enough.
Those are the words of the United States Defense Secretary at a press conference this morning,
calling for a pro-administration billionaire to hurry up and take over a media channel so it can become state TV.
So when you tell me later, oh, don't traffic in tropes about billionaire-owned.
Well, they're the one saying it.
Hexon is the one saying that I'm having my pro-Israeli billionaire friend,
Bayern media network so that they can dictate the agenda.
That is going to increase anti-Semitism. I'm sorry to say.
Let's see if he really said that.
Or more fake news from CNN reports that the Trump administration underestimated the Iran war's impact on the Strait of Hormuz.
Patently ridiculous, of course. For decades, Iran has threatened shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.
This is always what they do, hold the Strait hostage.
CNN doesn't think we thought of that.
it's a fundamentally
unsurious report
the sooner
David Ellison takes over
that network
the better
okay there we go
I'm sorry
I didn't need to talk
over that part
but that's amazing
but it's
what we were talking
about that report
before the show
because clearly
it's Scott Besant
and the energy
secretary who were leaking
and they were
pissed that they were
shut out of these
negotiations
it was the only
national security team
so he's mad about that
but I am
I want to take us
back for a second
to Monday
when you were
supposed to go on CNN
and then there was going to be this segment about Zoramam Dani's wife's Instagram likes.
Big a story in the world.
The big, I mean, it's a slow news week, I know.
And that segment got bumped because Trump went over on his speech.
Okay, makes total sense.
But he brought it back, Jake Tapper did on Tuesday, but didn't invite Sam back this time.
Instead, he had what was Jonah Goldberg and Nira Tandon on.
No, Karen Finney.
It was Karen Finney.
It was Karen Finney.
Oh, no, no.
there's the separate segment that I'm talking that that was a different one I think but maybe I'm
maybe the Mbdaughan segment was Jonah Goldberg and Karen Finney oh Karen Finney it wasn't your
tenant sorry but any it could have been but either way two people that were really critical of
uh Zoran Mamdani and I just wonder when you think that this Ellison takeover is potentially
you know pending or it's coming around the corner if there are certain anchors that are
auditioning for top slots because Tapper's been at from five you know he's at on 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. Eastern I
wonder if he wants to be on in prime time. I'm just curious.
They did try him out in prime time for a while and then he went back to his show when they
when they lost one of their anchors. Look, Jake's had his agenda for a long time. I've known Jake
for a long time. He's not hidden his views. But yes, why is they not a balanced panel?
Of course not. That was an insane panel. Jonah Goldberg was allowed to say insane shit without
any pushback. He was able to say that Zoran Mamdani is an outright apologist for terrorism.
That's not true. You know how we know that's not true? Because the Trump administration never accused
of that either. The Trump and the British couldn't find anything he said violent. They used this ridiculous
1952 law that Rubio used, which said that he's undermining our foreign policy by being anti-Semitic.
They never actually charge him with any kind of terrorism links or terrorism offenses, which is very
easy to do in the US, I should point out, for foreigners. So it's bullshit. The only person on that
panel who supported terrorism is Jonah Goldberg, who supported the Iraq war and stuck by defending
the Iraq war for many years afterwards. The only person who supported violence against civilians on that
panel was Jonah Goldberg. So the irony of, and then by the way, the day before, Tapper had
on Emily Schrader, who's like a former Israeli intelligence asset, and he said to her,
what do the Iranian people think? What are they telling you? Which was an absurd segment there,
even by US cable staff. Oh, yeah. She got a lot. She has a plethora of emails telling her that they
really want to be bought. She is the voice of Iran. Of course she is the voice of Iran. No, the whole
thing is absurd. To do a panel on the mayor's wife's Instagram likes or the mayor's Iftar guests
and ignore, you know, Tommy Tubberville saying that the Iftar is 9-11 or Andy,
Ogles saying Muslim shouldn't belong in America? Or how about the group chat from Miami with the
Republicans talking about black people and Jews in the most vile way? How about the fact that the entire
youth wing of one of our two major political parties is basically Nazi now? And that gets no coverage
from Jonathan Greenblatt or Jake Tapper and the rest. We should add that if you wanted to go down the
what are wives doing on Instagram beat, they could have also covered Representative Dan Goldman's
wife who while while she was working on the campaign, incidentally, was retweeting
Matt Walsh's stuff as to how black people are getting all sorts of benefits with a new
Amber alert in California.
I mean, that stuff is.
And just on Raman Duwaj, just very quickly for people watch, you were not following this,
the mayor's wife, you'll notice that the coverage is very vague.
She tweeted hateful stuff, anti-Israel.
stuff. Well, what did she actually tweet? If you go and actually look, oh, she tweeted stuff about
Israel. We should say liked an Instagram, but like, sorry, liked Instagram post. Even when you look at
the ridiculous free press reporter, Olivia, whatever her name is, going through her likes. Like,
it's insane. Even Olivia admits much of them are to do with Israel. They have nothing to do with
anti-Semitism or Judaism. And even the October 7 stuff is liking posts saying on the day of when,
by the way, on the day of, no one knew the extent of the violence and killing on the day of. A lot of people were
happy to see people quote unquote break out of a prison camp.
That doesn't mean that they supported killing or rape or murder.
In fact, they can't find a single post endorsing killing or rape or murder from Ramadouaji.
So that even the attack on her is such bullshit compared to, as you say, Dan Goldman's wife,
who we can actually identify hateful posts that she liked.
100%.
Let's talk a little bit about, you said you spoke with Ben Rhodes recently.
And he's been pretty voting.
about the democratic response to this.
I mean, from the very beginning, it's clear that this was going to be a, at the least,
a very unpopular war, even if it had lasted like a number of days.
We have seen from Chuck Schumer in particular, but also Hakeem Jeffries, they have been,
to the extent that they have any, like, decent positions on this,
had to have been dragged. Like you can literally see the finger line marks in the ground that
they've been dragged. They reportedly were attempting to undermine the war powers resolution by
Massey and Ro Khanna so that it wouldn't get a vote before the attack. They succeeded at that.
They were very reluctant to vote for it. Hakeem Jeffries does not seem to have whipped that
vote because four Democrats defected and voted with Republicans to,
to defeat that war powers resolution.
Schumer has been hinting for a while that he's open to funding the war, which now we realize
is spending literally billions upon billions a week right now.
And there seems to be at the very least a massive missed opportunity for Schumer and Hakeem
Jeffries and the rest of the Democratic Party to get out in front.
and say this is a huge mistake, be unequivocal about it, because as a political matter,
never mind all the reasons why you wouldn't want to start a war there, but it simply as a political
matter, it seems like the most obvious thing to do.
Which, to be fair, and the conversation I had with Ben Rose and I had with others this week,
and I just want to be clear, the Democratic Party leadership is what's screwed up here.
A lot of Democrats do get it, right?
You notice that the presidential candidate has quickly switched on this.
Gavin Newsom, who is a, you know, a mainstream,
pro-Israel Democrat came out very strongly against the war and came out very strongly calling out
Israel's role and Netanyahu's role because he knows he's seen the numbers. He understands what's
going on here. Just to be clear to your viewers, the poll we did on Wednesday I mentioned earlier
this week with data for progress and drop side, the approval rating for this war with Democrats
is 6%. Six percent of Democrats approve of this war, an insanely small number compared to any previous
conflict, even compared to Gaza, I think it's even smaller than the number of people who approve of what Israel's doing
in Gaza. So six percent.
they're seeing those numbers. You're seeing Ruben Gallego very strongly come out against this war and against Israel. Brian Schottes, I mentioned. Chris Murphy's been very critical. A lot of senators are coming up and just taking shots. Mark Warner, centrist, hawkish senator from Virginia, very critical of this war. It's Schumer and Jeffries, as ever letting the side down. Just even when they do criticize it, it's so half-hearted, it's so not real, it's so process-driven. Why have you not explained to us or taken a vote? Ben made a good point. Ben, Ben, Ben,
Roads made a good point that when they did the nuclear deal, when Obama did the nuclear deal,
he used to have to try and lobby Democrats in Congress to get behind it. And they would send statements to
him saying, we're going to put out a statement in favor of the deal. And he would read the statement.
And the first three to four paragraphs would just be condemnation of Iran and how much they hate Iran.
And he would get to the bottom, but he'd be like, is this in favor of the deal or what?
This constant like throat clearing from Democrats that you can't say anything unless you first say,
Iran's evil. Of course we want to get rid of the Ayatollah.
Of course we want to, oh, but you know, they didn't get a vote in Congress.
Well, that dilutes your message.
You just need to have a clearer message, which is this war is wrong.
It's illegal.
It's a distraction from Epstein.
It's a disaster for U.S. national security.
We shouldn't be giving Benjamin Netanyahu a blank check.
That's all you have to say.
But they can't do it.
But if it's just the politics, that is exactly the right thing to do.
But here's where I think we're at a critical point because we're looking,
Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are both from New York City.
Why is that the case?
As they were talking about how Zoran Mamdani's
victory should not be seen as a broader momentum shift in politics. Why are they the leaders of the
Democrats in the House and the Senate? Because they're close to fundraising. So if we're talking about
this as a strictly political matter, we're all right here. It would be obvious what the position
would be. It would have been obvious for Kamala Harris to distance herself from Biden and the genocide
and all of that. This is a major problem when we're at a point in this country where the special
interests and dark money since Citizens United have exploded and it's at a critical mass where they have
so effectively neutered the opposition and made these politicians who don't really have political
talents outside of fundraising, their careers are chained to the idea that they need to be
big money fundraisers and they don't have the ability to have, they don't have the dexterity
because of the incentive structure that created them in the first place.
And if anyone listens to you and Jonathan Greenmount Johnson says, Emma Vigalins being
anti-Semitic by saying it's special interest, I would point them to the New York Times,
which reported on how Schumer was not endorsing Mammani
because he was worried about pro-Israel donors.
That was reporting from the Times,
that famous anti-Semitic rag sheet
that reported on Schumer's motivations.
Although I would add, maybe with Jeffries,
obviously Jeffrey is very much a creature of special interest.
We saw him run to Silicon Valley after the election
when Democrats were calling out the tech bosses.
But Schumer really is a true believer.
Let's not forget.
Schumer was a rare Democrat who opposed the JCPOA.
And then wanted no, no size.
deals. No, Toco Trump. Oh, yeah, he did the Toco Trump video. He was pushing Trump from the right
on Iran negotiations. If you go back further, he spoke, I think at APEC, it was one of these
conferences where he said, hey, you can't blame Palestinians because, you know, the Bible gave
the land to us. Like he's on record talking in messianic, scriptural theological terms about
this conflict. He has a long record as a hawk on Iraq and Iran. So he's a true believer. I think deep
down, he's happy that this war is happening. He's happy this going ahead. And he has to go through the
motions of saying, well, I oppose Trump. I think this is a really important point. I think Hakeem
Jeffries is clearly it's a, it's a question of donors. But Chuck Schumer has made it absolutely
explicitly clear where he stands on this. He, I think he given, but for the constraints of his
entire party being against this. He would be out there. And it being Trump doing it. He would be out there
right now. He would be out there right now.
criticizing Trump from the right.
If the polling wasn't what it was, he would be out there criticizing Trump from the right, saying you botched this.
Where are the ground troops?
Yes.
Where are the ground troops?
By the other than the ground troops heading to the region, very worrying.
Yes.
We mentioned that in absolutely the case.
And frankly, you know, I think Chuck Schumer, by all accounts, the rumors are that he is planning not to run for reelection in 2028.
and if that's the case, you know, this is his, I think to a certain extent, what Netanyahu's doing
is like, he wants this to be his legacy.
Quickly, I know it's not relevant, but I need to get your takes because I'm not a New Yorker,
but I got shouted out by Ross Barkan on Twitter the other day when I said this.
But if he's not running, shouldn't Zoran run for the Senate in 20?
I think Zoran is too much of a good guy believer where he wants to truly see it through, see his
entire first term through.
I just think he's not going to see.
I think Gillibrand's seat in 2030 is something that could be discussed, but I also think
Pat Ryan is angling for it.
I think we really want to, I mean, I think the importance of this project in New York
City to the broader movement can't be overstated.
I mean, this is, you know, to have an executive, being an executive and in terms of
Turning, you know, fundamentally reorienting a New York City, I think is like the implications of doing that well are huge.
Me too.
But yeah, it would be helpful to have senators from a blue state who actually, a very safe blue state, actually represent.
And you've got, and by the way, you've got John Osso.
It's to the right of Republicans.
But you've got John Ossoff in a swing state being attacked by Jewish groups.
He's Jewish himself, taking much stronger stance.
It's not strong as I would like on Gaza or Iran than Schumer did.
You've got Ruben Gallego, who kind of spent the last two years making himself very centrist, very border hawkish,
come out very strongly in recent months against ICE and against Israel.
Again, smart guy.
He looks at the polling.
He's got smart people around him like Rebecca Katz.
He's seen the polling.
Yep, I agree.
Well, Maddie, what else do we have to say about this week?
I'm not sure what there is.
I think it's only going to get worse.
I'm sorry to be the bear of bad tidings, but judging from Hegsteth press conference today,
it's only going to get worse.
We're led by people who are super thin-skinned who treat everything like a video game,
who aren't going to be able to stand.
I don't know if you saw that clip where Hegsteth says,
they're rats hiding underground, and then you've got Pazeshki and the president of Iran
wandering around the streets of Tehran with no security.
Zelensky style in Ukraine.
That's going to bother the hell out of Trump and exit.
The danger is, and I kept telling this to people,
I would have people tell me in 2024,
and I'm sure they told you that, look,
Trump's anti-war and Bush and Cheney,
look at Liz Cheney, there's warmongers.
And I would often point out,
I don't want to defend Bush and Cheney.
I don't want to defend the administration of Rumsfoss.
But whatever you think about Ronsfeld, Cheney,
they were grown-ups.
They were grown-up warmongers.
We have childish warmongers.
The kind of people who will nuke the place
if they think they've been disrespected enough
or they think they've been embarrassed enough.
That is the worry I have.
People like Peter Hexeth, Donald Trump, unstable people running this war.
Without a doubt.
And the only thing that the only saving grace, I think, is that Trump reacts to the stock market and to the economy.
I mean, to a certain extent.
And if he knows about it, he's being told by his people that it's great.
He's in a bubble.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, I agree.
I think it's just a question of like,
If somebody from his New York swinging days gets through on the phone and says, you know, this is really bad.
And I could see him trying to reverse.
But the problem is, and I know you know this, is Iran is going to dictate the pace of this.
And they are going to require the world economy to experience a significant amount of pain so that
It could reestablish the turns, yeah.
That's it.
And one more point on this, I just think it's, like, it's, when you bring up Hegzeth and him calling them rats, I still think that it's not discussed enough how Pete Heggzat's career was centered around defending war criminals and saying that they shouldn't be charged for killing people in Iraq.
And he has a Crusades tattoo.
And I think, like, you know, there's been some reporting about the bombing of that girl's school and how if you had just used Google math.
you would have known it was a girl's school, but they used 10-year-old...
Had bright paint on the walls.
But I would not put it past a guy like Hegsef to get off on it.
He said today, Emma, he said today, no court, no mercy, which of course is a war crime.
It's a violation of international law to use that language.
Same language as Tom Cotton famously used in his New York Times op-ed.
Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
On that note, lock them up.
On the war crimes note, let's wrap up.
Exactly.
We will, of course, link to Ziteo.
Thank you so much.
Again, I've told you this before, but doing great work over there.
It is amazing what you've been able to build now in what, like two or three years has it been?
No, second birthday is in April.
We'll be inviting you guys.
Look out for an invite to our second birthday.
That's honestly nuts because you've managed to create an institution that is so important in this time.
Really appreciate it.
I can't believe it's only been two years.
That's amazing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks for meeting the way.
Yeah.
All right, folks.
This is way too wholesome for Sam.
Yeah, I don't feel comfortable with that.
Are we going to go into the fun half?
I'm going to step out, folks, because I am in pre-bar mitzvah.
Yes, family mode.
Family mode.
Thank you for the well-wishes.
We saw, I saw some out of the corner of my eye on the IMs.
You know, we'll wait and see how Saul does before, you know, we take any congratulations.
He's becoming a man.
He's becoming a man on Saturday and then back to seventh grade on Monday.
There you go.
So that's what happens.
All right.
What do you want to do?
Do you want to go into the final?
Matt, what's happening?
Oh, I'll just sign off.
Yeah.
And then we'll go into the.
I wasn't sure if you want to.
to do a freebie Friday.
I mean,
no, I don't think so.
You're giving those away too much.
Yeah, you're going willy-nilly with it.
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New Jacobin Show time today at 3 o'clock Eastern Time, so in two hours,
New Jackman Show.
I got Kurt and Jose Luis talking about Claudia Scheinbaum in Mexico,
doing a bunch of a loan forgiveness.
And, I mean, really taking action in a way that's very impressive.
Also, Ido Alam, the refusnik, our Israeli comrade calls in from Tel Aviv to talk about being anti-war, refusing to serve an IDF, and his perception of Israeli politics as the opposition is supporting Netanyahu's war and how he thinks that's going to age over the course of this year.
So, yeah, I'm really happy about the interview.
Ito is great.
And check that out at 3 o'clock Eastern Time.
Folks, see you in the fun half.
Okay, Emma, please.
Well, I just, I feel that my voice is sorely lacking on the majority report.
Wait, look, look, Sam is unpopular.
I do deserve a vacation at Disney World.
So, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show.
It is Thursday.
I think you need to do a program for Sam.
Yes, please, sir, I'm going to pause you right there.
Wait, what?
You can't encourage Emma to live like this.
And I'll tell you why.
I was offered a twir.
Sushi and poker with the boys.
Tour?
Sushi and poker with the boys.
Who was offered a tour?
Yeah.
Sushi and poker with the boys.
What?
Tour?
Sushi and poker.
Sushi and his.
Just think that what you did to Tim Poole was mean.
Free speech.
That's not what we're about here.
Look at how sad he's become now.
You shouldn't even talk about it because I think you're responsible.
I probably am in a certain way, but let's get to the milk.
down here.
Twirp?
Ugh.
Sushi and poker with the boys.
Oh my God.
Wow.
Sushi.
I'm sorry.
I'm losing my fucking mind.
Someone's offered a twirp.
Sushi and poker with the boys.
Lots.
I think I'm like a little kid.
I think I'm like a little kid.
I just don't understand.
I'm not trying to be a dip right now, but like I absolutely think the U.S.
should be providing me with a wife and kids.
That's not what we're talking about here.
It's not a fun job.
Twerk.
That's a real fit.
That's like the way of the world.
I'm going to say, poggers.
It was so much easier.
One of the majority of report was just you.
You were happy.
Let's change the subject.
I want people saying reckless things on your program.
That's one of the most difficult parts about this show.
This is a pro-killing podcast.
I'm thinking maybe it's kind of we bury the hatchet.
Left is best.
Trump.
Violet twerk.
Incredible theme song.
I Bumbler.
Emma Viglin, absolutely one of my favorite people.
Actually, not just in the game.
Like, period.
