The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3606 - Israeli Settler-IDF Attacks on Palestinians in West Bank Intensify w/ Jasper Nathaniel

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to a free version of The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. To support this show and get another 15 minutes of daily program, go to Majority.fm. Please. The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. It is Monday. October 20th, 2025. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Jasper Nathaniel, publisher of the Infinite Jazz on Substack, currently in the West Bank. Also on the program today, Israel continues to bomb Gaza, Despite supposed ceasefire, it's day 20 of the government shutdown, we're weeks away from millions on federal food assistance from losing that. We also, feds, as of today, are furlowing most of the workforce overseeing the U.S. nuclear stockpile.
Starting point is 00:01:30 No King's protests across the country Saturday. Perhaps the largest in the history of the United States drew between five and a half and eight and a half million people to the streets. Meanwhile, U.S. Marines encouraged by Vice President J.D. Vance to hold a celebration detonate a shell over Interstate 5 in California by mistake. Convicted, disgraced, former congressperson, George Santos gets a commutation by Trump because, of course, U.S. kills more boaters in the Caribbean, then released two who survived the strike
Starting point is 00:02:26 to their home countries, despite being alleged narco-terrorists. Weird. Huh. Trump pressures Zelensky in meeting with Putin to give up territory for peace. Trump then floats subsidies for Argentinian beef imports to help with the rising price of meat in this country. And the Coast Guard, you'll be happy to know, buys two private jets for Christy Nome. One presumably for Christy and I guess the other for Corey Lundowski. Oh, no, they want to be on the same flight.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Wait, they're on the same. The other one's for her husband. Oh, yes. For $172 million. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks so much for joining us. It is Monday. Not fun day, Monday, Monday. Yes. I mean, fair. Thanks for joining us. Hopefully many of you have your own No King's stories. There were people out in all of the major cities, millions of people out in the major cities across the country. I was up in Kingston, New York, and there was hard to say, but I would say at least like 2,000 to 5,000 people there marching through the city.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Ryan spoke. The congressman for the 18th district was there. I went with my daughter, which was fun. Very fun. And I've just heard from people all across the country that there was tons. Let's take a look at what we have up here. Yeah, this is, I guess. Footage from Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New York City was packed, San Diego, Boston, insane.
Starting point is 00:04:50 We're getting people just on the IMs right now. Now, Yosemite, Sam Cedar, I live in a tiny town in North Carolina. There was at least three or 400 people protesting there. Cho says we had 10.5,000 to show up in Grand Rapids, Michigan. We're going to see more come in, estimated 125,000 people out in Boston. That's crazy. Let's play a couple more clips. What else do we have here?
Starting point is 00:05:21 This is Arkansas. just in case any Republicans watching think, oh, these are just blue, degenerate urban areas now. Release the files. In Arkansas, leftist, strange says Albany protests, miles of people lined up on the busiest sections of the road. Tom Cotton's Beard, 2000 in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. in Juneau, Alaska, says Uday and Kusei, Lutnik, 750, Mego, 2,000 in Peora, Illinois, hopeful, 900 in
Starting point is 00:06:04 April mass. That's pretty good. Ramona Frankenstein, small town, I grew up in New Hampshire, at least 200 people. Long Island popped out big, says Nassah County spokesperson, easy 10,000 plus. Norlands, Carly Cherk, Denver, 25 to 35,000, says Saturn Girl. Wilmington, Population 127, 7K showed up. Adam Lefty. This is where? Here is Boise, Idaho. Population of Democrats, this may be, I mean, for pound for pound, the most Republican state in the country. I do like that they're still patriotic here.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That's their form of protest. That makes sense. Clearwater, 6,000 in O'Clair, 3,000 in Newburyport, Maine. I mean, it really dramatic numbers across the board here. And it pissed Trump off, obviously, obviously. Oh, yeah. let's show Donald Trump's reaction. It was, I mean, you could say on some level, he pooped himself, but he decided to aim that
Starting point is 00:07:34 poop on the American public. Great. Here it is. It has a copywritten song, so this is a silent version. This is him, okay, pause it for a second. it's him flying a fighter jet now of course this is fiction Donald Trump would never be able to fit into a fighter jet yeah look at that torso he also the best part is look at the mask is not even over his nose yeah he doesn't
Starting point is 00:08:07 need it he can he can breathe up there I need the face diaper up here there's no COVID on Mars yeah I don't have to worry about that And it's the... It says King Trump on the side. Yeah. And the idea, of course, is to sort of like play into it. But what's impressive is that they spent all of the past week or two talking about this as a... As it's going to be full of Antifa fighters and ninja fighters and Hamas and Hamas and Hezbollah and, you know, like a...
Starting point is 00:08:47 Red Dawn. America hitting Marxists. And on and on. And then, of course, all they're talking about now is it was all boomers. It was all old people. I mean, compared to the pro-Palestine protesters, yeah, I would say it skews a little bit older. But that doesn't mean that this is not like a show of major discontent with Donald Trump. Like, that's what matters is that people were motivated enough to get out on a Saturday
Starting point is 00:09:16 and protest this administration. Oh, I'll tell you something. They're nervous about this. Because if they are right, and my experience was that it was, most of the people I saw were Gen X or Boomers out there, at least up in Kingston. I was with my daughter. I mean, I saw young people as well.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But that was, you know, I would say probably 45, 40 and older were the majority of people in midterm elections like the amount of the electric these people represent is extremely high yeah uh and they seem very very motivated can we just play a little bit more we didn't oh yeah yeah sorry we didn't get to the part where he's on his uh jet and he he basically now I don't know how this works um Brian you've been in military but I can't imagine they would to let you in the Air Force. But I don't know if it works this way where they actually put a pipe that goes from the seat.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Because, of course, you can't relieve yourself if this goes from the flight suit. But here you see, Donald Trump with just massive diarrhea coming out of him through the end. airplane. I mean, that right exactly. How much did he eat that day? Yeah, I mean, it was like lunch.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He's the president. You guys have to respect him. At least he wasn't wearing a tan suit. You're right. You're right. You guys want to divide us all the time. You've got to support our president. Now, I've seen like some, a little bit of some cynicism about these protests. and um i you know obviously uh the protests mean nothing if there's no organizing that comes out of this but um you know at least at the protest that uh i went to there were a lot of tents there was a lot of like tables set up people are organizing there is no doubt my mind now let's assume they
Starting point is 00:11:36 were close to i i would i would imagine there were closer to eight million than five and a half million because there's so many towns where you had a thousand people come out um uh two thousand five thousand ten thousand people that are just not going to be recorded and but if even just a tiny percentage of those begin to organize and they have access to those people who were there it is helpful and as far as the no king's thing At one point, my hope is that those involved in the anti- oligarch tour that went around, like Sanders and AOC, and people who fight oligarchies and concentrations of wealth and power, when we think about kings, that's what the kings were. they were they were just like they didn't just have a monopoly of power they had a monopoly of wealth and resources that it was like almost like definitionally what the king was and we obviously don't
Starting point is 00:12:55 have the same system of government but the the problem it remains the same i cannot remember the name of the professors we had on who had written that book the anti oligarchic constitution And Pat Ryan up at Kingston, his speech was talking about the Declaration of Independence. Fiskin and Forebeth. Yeah, Fiskin and Fibat, talking about the idea of no kings in the Declaration of Independence. But the concept of kings, when we talk about someone who has a monopoly of power and wealth, really sort of like the monopoly of power came first and the wealth just followed because they were able to say we'll take all the wealth because I have this army but the the idea of monopoly of wealth giving that type of oligarchic power this is what we're fighting against
Starting point is 00:13:58 and that's why there's some people that are cynical about like it seems a little designed to avoid the question of capitalism but I don't think that story is finished yet, to your point, you know, there's still an opportunity to connect it to what we've been saying about oligarchy and taxation. It's just that it kind of fits into what we're saying about what we were saying last week about the Democrats losing credibility by being undemocratic in their lack of responsiveness to their base, right? If the only message is that of democracy, we cannot do that again. They lead into that with Kamala Harris. And, it was not potent enough to overcome people's obvious material reality. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The oligarchy we have now is only a function of capitalism because that is the path that we have been on. There are other ways to get to oligarchy. We can see it around the globe. And so it's to say that the problem is capitalism is to align the fact that the The problem is oligarchy. The way in which we got to oligarchy, we, in this country, as opposed to, let's say, Russia did not head to oligarchy because of capitalism.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It was an injection of perhaps a form of capitalism, but with a pre-existing structure that was also problematic. It is important to address the oligarchy. And Kings is a childlike way. of saying oligarchy FDR got to economic royalists I would say that conditions are going to force us in that direction as well
Starting point is 00:15:45 even if there's a resistant part of the Democratic Party that doesn't want to talk about it and then the question is like once it's become clear that we have a monopoly of power and of wealth and a concentration of wealth that does not serve democracy the question is like well how do we get here
Starting point is 00:16:01 and that in our particular case it is capitalism them, then there's going to have to be a change to renew democracy. It's going to have to come from a different system that we have practice that brought us to this point. But we have a little more to talk about that, but a couple of words from our sponsors. And then we're going to be talking to Jasper Nathaniel from the West Bank. And folks, check out his substack, Infinite Jazz. Much of the footage we're going to be talking about is going to be available there and a piece that he wrote in the Paris Review.
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Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah. We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Viglin on The Major Report. It is a pleasure to welcome back to the program, and I'm glad to see you're in one piece. Jasper Nathaniel is the publisher of the Infinite Jazz on. substack, Jasper, you're currently in the West Bank. I just want to say just up front, like during the Iraq War, we, we as a show helped raise funds for a guy who had gone in, because most of the people were embedded, gone in on his own, had like traversed across the border.
Starting point is 00:24:09 and the kind of work you're doing in the West Bank is so important. I think we're going to see the implications of it just on these people's lives in a bit. But just to have an independent journalist in the West Bank who is able to not have to worry about an editor getting their stories up there or having it killed up the line because, frankly, most news organizations, at this point that have the in this country who have the means to send somebody to the west bank have uh tend to be a little bit sensitive and uh in terms of like posting stuff that is in any way uh revelatory about the way that israel operates or things are operating the west bank so i just want to just like start with that aside from like the the obvious sort of like physical danger you were in yesterday um but uh it just you know i appreciate the work you're doing
Starting point is 00:25:12 there and i hope folks will go and support uh the work you're doing there as well thank you that was very nice i really appreciate it and uh yeah i mean people here are always saying why is it so unusual to see like that people find it unusual that i'm there um as an independent journalist. And that's weird to me. This is like one of the worst conflicts in the world with its implications included. And it's weird that I am like getting, it's weird that people are saying it's unusual to see somebody like me, I have to say. I mean, like what happened yesterday, which we'll get into, that's happening every single day, every single day. And it's crazy that like this is the first time or it's not the first time it's crazy like this it
Starting point is 00:26:08 just broke through because i posted it online yeah i mean this let's let's let's get to this um this footage is going to be um uh uh you know there's a bit of it but why don't you just tell us like it starts out at seven uh 40 in the morning uh tell us what's going on with this settler blocking, just, you know, set the table for us and we'll play the video. Okay, so I'm in the town of Termus Aya, which is, it's like outside of Ramallah. It's, it's an interesting place because it's 85% American citizens. So the vast majority of people who live here are Palestinian Americans who basically go back and forth, and it's a pretty wealthy town.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So this is a place that has been like pretty insulated from settler, violence and just general occupation violence for many decades, not completely insulated, but relatively speaking, it's been okay really just until the last couple of years is when it's gotten bad. And what it comes down to is these settlers are setting their sites higher. The farmhouses in this agricultural land are like little mansions. The land itself is like beautiful and lush. And so this is not something that happens here all the time. It happens all across the West Bank, but these are not people who are used to dealing with, you know, these violence settlers.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So anyway, the violence has been getting worse. And basically, like, there's this whole swath of agricultural land between the two settlements, Shiloh and Adaiad, and then the town of Termis Ayah. The land has gradually been taken by settlers who show us. up, build an outpost, you know, they basically prop prop up a tent, put in Israeli flag, and then suddenly two tens, and then, like, if you go near them, you get shot. And so over the last couple of years, almost all of their land has become inaccessible to them. So they decided yesterday they were going to go out for the first time this year, all as a unit. So there was
Starting point is 00:28:21 basically like a caravan of farmers and their workers who all driving out together at 7 a.m. So I think what you're about to show is like three minutes into that drive, basically. And I just want to mention this. I know this is on the, I know it was originally in the Paris Review, but it's now on the top, I think, of your substack. You wrote a piece just, I don't know, 10 days ago, 12 days ago. That talks about folks, I think from this town, American citizens who are here trying to, who have been trying to get the U.S. government to pay attention the fact that American citizens
Starting point is 00:29:02 have been killed in this, in and around these areas to absolutely no avail. It's heartbreaking. But, all right, let's play this clip. Can I just say one thing about that? I'm literally in the house of Mohammed Zahir Ibrahim, who is a 16-year-old Palestinian-American kid who's been in Israeli military detention since February. I'm staying with his family right now. So that's how close we are to the place where these Americans are being killed and abducted. Okay. Let's play this clip now, 738 and morning good.
Starting point is 00:29:57 that's it we can't get through he has a gun he's a gun yeah where's the gun okay so you can hear you okay so you can hear
Starting point is 00:30:13 you and your driver I guess who's driving that's the farmer like it's his land that we're going to uh yeah sir and he's an American lawyer
Starting point is 00:30:24 so you know he owns land in the West Bank and he also has a home in Anaheim where he runs a family law practice so that's who you hear throughout a lot of these videos okay and and so these guys these settlers just come down I mean this is the dynamic that I think people don't fully understand is they the settlers try and like push the boundaries literally um and and they sort of do it with this sort of like tacit approval of the IDF or this there there's this this sort of like the IDF is supposed to, like, constrain them, but sometimes does and sometimes doesn't. I mean, there's a, okay. Well, in this instance, it appears like they were maybe have,
Starting point is 00:31:09 were directly collaborating, right, Jasper? Well, okay. Let's get ahead. So we're, uh, we're at the next one. This is, but to address what you just said, like these settlers, most likely have been sleeping in a farmhouse owned by one of the farmers trying to get out to his olive growth. So they wake up, come out of the farmhouse that long someone, look in their binoculars, see the Palestinians coming out, get their gun, go down, and block the road. So, like, that's how perversus is. Like, they're literally staying in the homes built by people trying to get to their land. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Let's go to the next one after that. the um this part three yeah let's go to part three this is where you guys drive around try and find a different area uh and then you uh at 837 a m you get out of the car to go talk to uh the idf do you want me to give context on it yeah yeah please do yeah go ahead so basically like we um so we we got blocked by the settler with the gun We went, we found another route. We actually made it to the olive groves, which was like a really nice surprise for everybody. The farmer that I was with, the officer realized very quickly that his trees had no olives on them,
Starting point is 00:32:39 which was probably just a bad season. So we decided to leave. So we go back to leave the way we came, and there's settlers blocking that way. So then we go back to leave the other way, and there's just an army jeep in the middle of the road. And we don't know what to do. And so we talk about it, me and Yasser and decide, of the two of us, I'm less likely to get shot if I approach them because I'm white. So this is me. My phone is in my pocket because I didn't want them to see me recording.
Starting point is 00:33:07 But walking up the hill, my hands in the air, they're pointing their guns at me. And I'm going to go basically ask them that they will please help us get out, get back into the village. Your phone's in your pocket here. Can you speak English? Yes, yeah, yeah. We just need help getting out because the settlers over there are blocking us. This is the only other way. Where are you coming?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Just back to Tirmissaya. Back to the village, that's it. Yeah, just want to go home. No, I live in America. I'm visiting. Do you have family here? No? No. I'm here for the olives.
Starting point is 00:33:53 in the car bring you passport yeah I think so and then he's like do you have a picture on your phone and I'm like yeah I think so and then they're like you know what you're fine go to the car and come through so he gives us the green light to go they were looking for a picture on your phone do you think they were they wanted to know if I had a picture my passport on my phone.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Oh, okay, okay, okay. Because they clearly were like, do you have family here? They want to know if you're not Palestinian type of thing, is what they're asking. Okay. You're just visiting. Yeah. Did you deliberately not mention that you were a journalist there in that instance, just to kind of, right, I mean, that's smart.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, it's like path of least resistance. Right. I don't know. In hindsight, maybe, you know, just want to. to try the olives was not the most obvious thing i could have said but that was that was a that came off as a little snippy maybe like something like i'm just a jew who loves olives and you know something it was off the cuff well i mean i imagine at that point like there's a little like rising intensity okay and so um you uh you get down the hill yeah i go yasser's waiting there with
Starting point is 00:35:23 car i get in on my great news they said they will help us out we'll help us get out so we drive up the hill and is the next video you're going to play where we talked yeah okay so then you're going to hear we get up to the top of the hill soldier gets out of the car puts his hand out it's like stop so we're waiting and then you'll hear me ask him a question i think And they're protecting right here. Oh, sorry, sorry. Pause. Once we get up there, I realize there's settlers up there, too.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Not just any settlers, but it's the guy who had the gun who we saw in the morning, is there on an ATV with another set. So they have been tracking you guys and are following you this way. They're basically coming ahead you off at this other pass. Okay. And so we are thinking, okay, the soldiers are going to help us get by. these guns, basically. And, like, just to state the obvious, like, not every settlor carries a gun. When one of them is carrying a gun, it's a completely different situation. Like, you know that they could kill you at any moment, and they do. They do. They will. So, like, you really just don't take
Starting point is 00:36:32 any risks at all when you encounter a settler with a gun. Oh, you're going to move them? Oh, thank you. So I'm like, are you going to move this? Oh, they pause it. They offer, we're going to move them. Yes, he says, we go. So they're saying it. Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's the IDF. Yeah. Correct. That's the idea. He says, we're going to move them and then you can go. And I'm like, great, they're going to move the settlers. Then the next thing that happens, which I did not get on video, is the IDF Jeep just speeds off, just disappears into the dust and leaves us with the two settlers on the ATV. And then there's all.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Also, another car of a Palestinian farmer and his workers, and their windshield was completely smashed, and their tires were slashed because the settlers on the ATV had just done that to his car. And so now it's us, the destroy, the car with the windshield broken and the slash tires, and then the two settlers on the ATV. Which one are you playing next, Sam? This one is, we get in the cars drive off, but the smash car gets stuck, so I try and get out to help this. the settlers. Yeah, so basically they're not to help the cell. I mean, settlers appear to have left at that point. So the guy on the ATD
Starting point is 00:37:52 like sort of like goes off and we're like, oh, great, okay. And then we start to leave and then I realize that the car with the slash tire is not able to get out, which, you know, in hindsight. So I get out of the car and I go offer to help him. And when I'm outside, pushing the car
Starting point is 00:38:11 is when you know, about a hundred zombie-like savage settlers just appear out of the hills and start chasing me. So just to like spell it out, listen, I don't have any definitive proof that the idea knew they were there or that they set it up or whatever. But what I do know is that the idea was up there. They said they would help move the settlers. They then left us with two settlers in plain sight that they saw, and then about a hundred more immediately appeared and came after us. So I find it very unlikely that they did not know there was 100 people in the bushes right behind them.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Okay, and then you turn, and then you turn, and there's 15. Yeah. Yeah, the next one is, is me running away from the settlers. This is when, this is like the moment the attack sort of starts in earnest. Hey, hey, press, press, press. American press. American press. What did you say, Jasper?
Starting point is 00:40:00 The siren that you're hearing is a palestinian fire truck was trying to get to a car. I'm almost trying to find the footage, wider shot of you. Then there's another shot from a distance, right? Are you on the sub-deck video? Yeah. Oh, here it is. It's right now.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Okay. This is another angle, and you can see Jasper in the black shirt running and trying to shoot over his shoulder with his phone. In hindsight, I would have put my phone away a little bit earlier. Here they come. when you referred to them as zombie like this is it literally looks there's that like the 28 days
Starting point is 00:40:44 ones that can work in that car and that car is the one that they had slashed that is that is drag the driver and the passenger out of the car and miraculously they both escaped so so then basically what happens is
Starting point is 00:41:00 me and the two guys in the car are running for our lives This group is chasing us down the hill. Like, this is like a big hill, and we're running down the hill. The village is basically at the bottom of the hill. And they're coming after us. And as we're running, we're like, we'll like run into other people who had been there harvesting
Starting point is 00:41:23 and didn't know this was happening so that they would start running too. So it's like it becomes basically like just a whole group of people running. And then the guy who we will see in a moment, with a big club, he was like, I don't know if he is the leader or if he is just the cruelest or the biggest warrior or whatever, but he was like on my tail, hunting me down basically, chasing me. And I get to Yasser, the farmer I was with, I get to his car and I get in and I immediately start filming again. And so I think the next clip you'll play is right after that chase, I get to the car and the crowd is right behind.
Starting point is 00:42:06 us. Here, what are we? Right behind us. He's right here. He's right. Here he's scary. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Jesus. Are the doors locked? Oh, fuck. Okay, so the... Go ahead. Yeah, so, you know, he's trying to get into the car, obviously. He smashes the rear windshield. So basically there's like a line of cars now trying to escape.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I thought that we didn't realize that there was anybody still out. Like we thought that everybody had like either made it out or got it into a car or something. I didn't, I wasn't sure about the two guys who were in the car because I hadn't been with them. But in terms of like everybody else, we think everyone is gone. And then he, we see the guy who had just smashed our windshield who had been chasing me come across the side of the part and then we look ahead and there's a woman by herself like maybe 30 feet ahead of us picking olives and i will tell you both me and yasser um we talked about this a lot today like both of us thought there's no way he's going to attack her there's just no way i mean she's an
Starting point is 00:43:45 older woman um she's by herself she's so clearly defenseless um picking olives like this is a huge guy. He's got a club like what kind of a absolute monster would attack her. And so the next clip is what happens. And just we should, you know, tell people this is a little bit graphic and, you know, content warning. This is pretty upsetting to watch. This is an Israeli settler who sees this elderly woman picking olives. And this is what he does. you got it oh come on don't fucking hit her
Starting point is 00:44:32 hey oh my goodness hey hey hey hey so then
Starting point is 00:44:44 we're like tracking with him and um he now it's just like there's other people just standing there. And so we are now like trying to get people into our car
Starting point is 00:45:02 away from him. And he is just like going to town on people. And keep in mind, there's tons of settlers behind him. So there's a stampede going on. This guy is just out in front. You can, you can see one or two others in it. But the next thing that happens is there's two activists. And I want to give a lot of credit to these international activists who tend to stay anonymous but I mean these guys really put themselves right in the line of fire and so then I think the next thing you'll see is him attacking two activists one of them broke his arm broke his leg I got a concussion stitches in his head the other I don't know the extent of their injuries but they're both pretty seriously injured
Starting point is 00:45:53 And are those activists able to get into your car? I get out of the car pretty soon after that. So yes, one of the injured activists is then carried into the car. The one who broke his arm and his leg. got a concussion is then it's not on camera but he's then brought into the car right when I get out of the car this is I think the next come is just our car getting attacked again because again you're like they're still here let's go to the next next let's say one more thing Sam the activists and journalists but you know primarily the activists like are told
Starting point is 00:46:48 explicitly like you know there's a whole system here protective presence there's these big organizations that run it. And one of the number one rules is you don't fight back, which is it's crazy to imagine, like, if you're getting attacked or if you see somebody else getting attacked, what do you mean you don't fight back? And the reason is not because the activist could get hurt. It's because if you fight back and you hurt somebody, the settlers will come back the next day and punish the village for what you did to that. So a lot of, like, activists in the past will try to be a hero, right? They try to step in, they try to fight the settlers,
Starting point is 00:47:25 they try to get in between, and every single time, it's not the activist that, or in some cases the activist gets injured from it, obviously, but the point is the settlers then take it out on the Palestinians. So that's why you're seeing, like, it's completely one-sided. Also, they have the weapons, obviously, but just some context.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm gonna get out here. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, somebody used a document, let her in, you get it. You get it, you get it. You get it. Let's get it. Let's get it. Let's get it. Let's get it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Let's see. Let me, let me. Ah, sir. Ah, y'am. Jemma, zim, ma'i. Yeah, zah, zah, sah, shah, Sah, sah, shah. Sah, shah, shah.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And who am not, and which, which car, car now, and which car now next, next, they, they light a car. The settlers, um, uh, Israeli settlers at that point, then, light a car on fire? Yeah, they, they torched a couple cars. But like, it's like, so after I help get the injured woman into a car, um, there's like settlers still kind of hovering, but they're like starting to disperse and go back up the hill because they've got in close to the village now where they might actually meet like a larger group of people than them. Um, and so then I see just a car up in flames. I think it's the car that, um, had been smashed earlier, but I actually don't know what car was.
Starting point is 00:49:24 But, I mean, after it was over, it was just like, it was carnage. I mean, there were just people screaming, like, so many people hurt. And I just want to say one thing, right before we went on, the BBC published an article about this. And, like, it's pretty accurate, like they interviewed me for it. But the IDF in their statement claims that, um, the confrontation dispersed after they arrived. The IDF never arrived.
Starting point is 00:49:54 They never came. They left right before it started, but they absolutely, not only did they not disperse it, they did not show up. So again, like, imagine an event this big, over 100 settlers involved in an attack, and like the army just doesn't even show up.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Can you? Yeah, no, it's all right. How would they know? I mean, like, give us a sense of how, they would know. Is it possible the IDF, like, okay, we know that the two soldiers who are on the presumably on the highest point in that area sped off just before this happens. Is there any other way? I mean, so, you know, there's every, there's some reason to believe that this was sort of like, you're asking, do they have plausible deniability? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I suppose they have plausible deniability that they did not actually know that there were 100 settlers ready to attack because I don't have a smoking gun that proves it. But they have no plausible deniability that they did not know that there was a settler with a gun waiting there for us. In all likelihood, he was the one who then went and signaled to the others that it was time to come. They knew something was potentially going down there. And then when it starts, there's sirens because cars are being crushed and exploded. There's, like, tons of shouting. There's a Palestinian fire truck.
Starting point is 00:51:29 So there's sirens. Like, the IDF is around. They were just there. So, like, I don't know. It's hard to imagine why. And by the way, I stayed for like an hour after it was done. And they never showed up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:43 They never came. Well, I guess that kind of leads us into the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, moment where we zoom out a little bit because yesterday when this had had happened to you, you know, we were on our page and other shows were trying to get the word out because basically the U.S. Embassy had declined to protect you. And you are a constituent of Senator Chuck Schumer, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, and I believe Representative Goldman, right? So we were tagging them in all this stuff because the United States government
Starting point is 00:52:18 represented, you know, by Mike Huckabee, a Christian Zionist in Israel as the Israeli ambassador, they were basically declining to help you. Yeah. I mean, remember, this is a mostly Palestinian-American village. These are
Starting point is 00:52:36 American citizens. Every bit as American as me. So, like me being there actually shouldn't change anything for them. Like, they should all, and in my text exchanges with the embassy guy, he acknowledges that there's 60,000 Palestinians in the West Bank. So, like, right off the bat, they have been ignoring. Yes, Palestinian Americans.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. So, yeah, sorry. So right off the bat, they've been ignoring terrible violence against Palestinian Americans for years, they admit. And now I'm coming to them as, frankly, like, let's just be real, like a white person who lives full-time in America. I'm probably more American to a lot of people in our government. And so basically what happened was, I can't remember exactly how,
Starting point is 00:53:26 but like somebody, somebody was set, the video just like immediately started going viral. And my phone started blowing up. And then, like, somebody from the village had contacted the U.S. Embassy, and somebody from the embassy have to speak to me. So I get on the phone with someone.
Starting point is 00:53:49 He was talking to me, not in my capacity as a journalist, but in my capacity as a American tourist there. So unfortunately, I can't use his name. But he tells me on the phone when we speak, bro, this is terrible. Man, I saw the video that's so fucked up. I mean, he's really, like, browing out with me. He's saying all the right things.
Starting point is 00:54:12 he's like these settlers man they just this and that like just like really like putting on an act that this is he's like this is just he's like enough is enough like we like we're going to stop this and I'm like okay great so like you're going to come in and provide protection for the people in the village because you know they're under attack and he's like I got to have a couple internal meetings and then I'll be back in touch and then the next text exchange is when we text and um you get one of these for the next hour two hours yeah and and what was the text text exchange you have it on the screen i mean he he um if you don't have it it it's okay he basically says um i say can i he he's okay i said to him people are going it back out tomorrow
Starting point is 00:55:10 to the fields i'll be going with them we need protection here and he said that you got okay he said unfortunately er uh we've already told the israelis that they plan to be out there uh again tomorrow i'm friends with the mayor laffi but then blah um you're saying we need protection we are americans wait wait but this is this is interesting though because you read this part about okay then again we told the israelis yesterday the villages would be out there today so in other words he's saying like we're doing everything we can but we have no control over these guys they're crazy right right um and then you say we need american protection we are americans unfortunately we simply can't do that much as i might personally like to we haven't gotten the manpower got the manpower to protect
Starting point is 00:55:59 the nearly 60k american palestinians and legally we're not permitted so then you say i'm an American tourists, can you protect me? And then, uh, then what did you get one of those like, um, you write? The next part is. Oh yeah. No, no, put it up because there's something I want to point. Here it is. He writes, unfortunately, no, the protection of American citizens is always the responsibility of the host nation government, which is why we pull our embassies out of places that host nations can't or won't protect them. Syria, Iran, Yemen, Venezuela, et cetera, et cetera is doing a lot of work there. And then you write back, are you implying that the Israeli government will protect me
Starting point is 00:56:43 and the other Americans here? I don't understand. The IDF led us directly into an ambush. That's what's supposed to happen, yes. But it didn't. So he has repeatedly in our conversation, like, said, like, well, let's be real. The Israeli government is not fulfilling their duties here. But in the same conversation, he says, if the host country,
Starting point is 00:57:06 fails to protect Americans. We pull our embassy. So, like, why do we have an embassy in Israel? I mean, I'm not even trying to, you know, like make a great point here. Just, I mean, objectively speaking, they're not protecting Americans here. You just did a story two weeks ago about Americans killed in Israel by Israeli forces. And not only will they not pull the embassy out, you can barely get a meeting with lawmakers who, represent these people. What has struck me throughout this entire thing, and it's also, you see this in the context of the hostages as well, when there is an American Israeli, as opposed to an American Palestinian, like that person becomes an icon if they are killed in Israel. This happens on a regular
Starting point is 00:58:04 basis where American citizens are completely they're either killed, they're imprisoned, they're beat up, no, nothing, nothing by the media, nothing by the U.S. government. It is
Starting point is 00:58:22 so, such an explicit manifestation of, I don't know if we want to call it racism or the or, or, or if there's some other dynamic layered on top of the racism, or if the racism allows this other dynamic to happen,
Starting point is 00:58:40 I don't, I don't know, but it's so clear. There's a, there's two different standards. I think it's a combination of, like, just pure racism, like, uh, like Islamophobia, but also anti-Palestinian racism, which is distinct. And also, like, combine that with just a complete deference to Israel, who's responsible for all these killings. and these people just don't exist. I mean, like I said, I'm staying in the home of a 16-year-old, an American teenager.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah. He, like, we have the guy who runs the prison system in Israel openly bragging about torturing and starving prisoners, including Americans, the, you know, the Fotilla people. And I can't tell you how hard it's been to get any politician. to pay attention to this kid who's stuck in prison. Can we put up this image of him, just so people know. Good on Ayanna Presley, who put out this statement about this. I wonder, honestly, if some of your, she's been great on this issue regardless, but Muhammad Ibrahim, a U.S. citizen is being held in Israeli prison.
Starting point is 00:59:52 His health is deteriorating. The circumstances are desperate. The United States must use every avenue available to secure the release of this Palestinian-American child. And I just want to put that image up there, because that is a child. I mean, looking at him, it's just insane. And we have no idea what is happening to him in these Israeli torture dungeons right now.
Starting point is 01:00:15 His, he was supposed to spend this past summer working at the family ice cream shop in Tampa Bay. He was going to work there with his first cousin, Saifola Musilat. Saipola was beaten to death by settlers a couple kilometers from here in July while Muhammad was in prison. So as far as the family knows, he doesn't know that his cousin was beaten to death. Or the prison guards have been taunting him with it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 That also is a thing that happens. But think about that. I mean, this ice cream shop, the two people, two of the people that were supposed to be working there, first cousins, one is dead and one of them is left for dead in Israeli military detention. I mean, these are Americans. It is so absurd. And I just want to say, like, listen, right before this, I was visiting Sepulah's grave, actually. And right next to him is a grave of Muhammad Shalabi, who is an 18-year-old who was murdered on the same day as Sepulah.
Starting point is 01:01:15 He got, you know, whatever little amount of attention, Sepulah got, Muhammad Shalbi got less. Because he's not an American. And, you know, like, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but the reason I'm putting such an emphasis on these Palestinian Americans is not because their lives are more important or more valuable, but it is because when the American government refuses to step in to in any way protect their own citizens, get justice for their murder, help rescue them from torture dungeons, it goes to show just, you know, the extent of our just, you know, horrific relationship with Israel. Yep. Yep. All right. Let's play this. You posted this about three hours ago because it it appears that like things settled down probably in the wake of how far you're reporting traveled or maybe explicitly so. And I just let's play this. But I want to talk about the dynamic that must exist for us to
Starting point is 01:02:30 for this to be the outcome right now, and I'm curious about that. Okay, let's play this. It's because your video yesterday, that's why today doesn't come. The settlers? The settlers, yeah. That's good to know. All the words saw your video yesterday. That God sent it you for us.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Oh, well. all right um it's good to end on a little bit more yeah let's um let's play this one let's go to this one let's go to this next one down on the thread with the israeli uh uh this is this is the site of the attack yesterday so i i returned to the same olive fields and the farmers were like overjoyed because they were picking their olives in peace and and then like go go below that one uh Is it that one? No, this one I'm thinking of. I haven't watched it, but you say, let's let's one speak for itself.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Hear this one. Well, first did the one, actually, I think, where I, the third one in the sequence. Where I literally, all of a sudden I'm like, oh, there's soldiers over there. And I asked somebody and he says, yeah, there are soldiers in police. You're doing an investigation. And, you know, my immediate thought is like, well, we all never. The last one I put up there. No, the one below it, the one below it in the, in the I.M.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Yeah, so anyway, they asked me the officer comes over and says. Okay, yeah, okay, sorry, that's it. Sorry, yeah. All right, here we go. This guy's filming me right now saying that I'm here making propaganda. Sorry. it should say I spotted the
Starting point is 01:04:31 soldier who like lure me into an ambush it's in the thread of the first video that you played so if you go back to that first one you played I think it's a third tweet in that thread
Starting point is 01:04:47 okay we have it you told and I regret about it because I saw the video I don't This is the one. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I'm filming. He told us. Huh? He told us for me. This is the one who told me to go. Okay. This is the one who told me, come on up. And then as soon as we got there, sped off, and then the settlers came out.
Starting point is 01:05:14 He went. I, I, I, I, I want to, you to, you're coming to my station. You got it. I take your phone. Yes, sir. Thank you. Come with me. They're here like, finding an investigation.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I mean, undeniably, they were there, in part, they were going around checking on the farmers, making sure they were not getting attacked by settlers. Now, is it coming from a sincere wanting to protect Palestinian's place? I don't think so. I think they're chastened. I think that the coverage yesterday had an effect, and that's certainly what the locals think. Um, I think you should, if, if you want to do one more, you should do the one where I say, just let this one speaks for itself. This one's pretty fine.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You see that one? That's the, okay. So this is again, like, it's the big oath is the guy that I had spoken to the day before. I mean, look, maybe you can't say this, but it's quite clear to me, the guy's lying. I, I didn't know. I didn't know. We just sped off at that one moment. I mean, give me a break.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And he knows he's smart because he's also covering his face. Yep. Hey, you know, I almost got killed yesterday when you did that. Yeah, you let me right up into an ambush. Oh, really? Let me adjust my mask. You know that? You were right there and you left and I got chased by 100 settlers trying to kill me.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I could be dead. I could be dead. They want to investigate the assault. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to be investigated too, though, because you're probably. part of it. Can you help him? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So it was real some propaganda. Yeah, I almost got killed yesterday. Is that propaganda? You saw the video. You saw the video.
Starting point is 01:07:07 If we had gone care, we just don't come here and try to protect you. But we care. Oh. And we got. Oh. So has he been arrested yet? Has he been arrested yet? The guy you're looking for him. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Good. Good. Those people. people are charged to take some DNAs and all those same. Yeah. But without ceiling? Okay. It's amazing to see how they cover their faces like that.
Starting point is 01:07:36 It's very much. The last one is very short, but Matt, put up the idea of TikTok one, if you don't mind. Because then I walk away and I look over and I realize one of the soldiers is just straight up filming me, definitely making a TikTok. He's on-duty soldiers. And I just catch him, like, making a video. video of me. So this guy's filming me right now saying that I'm here making propaganda.
Starting point is 01:08:02 I got chased by 100 settlers yesterday. I almost got killed because these guys sent me up. And he's over here saying I'm filming propaganda. Incredible. Incredible. Like, can we just talk about discipline for a minute? Like, these guys shouldn't even be talking to me, probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:21 I mean, I don't. that that presupposes that they're not doing exactly what they're you know not out there to do i mean the way that we got a torture regime in iraq was not because uh people were ordered to torture it was rather there's no recourse don't worry guys we're unshackling you and that that that has that same feel there and they just got uh pressure from some political uh from somewhere within the government like this is a a tense a little bit of a tense time so you guys got to chill talk to me about that dynamic because it's quite clear that they can't you know when the guys like if we you know didn't want to if we didn't have to be here to protect you we could just I mean it's
Starting point is 01:09:11 the same sort of like mentality of like it can't be a genocide because if we wanted to we could just kill everybody with a nuke there is international pressure does work to an extent right like that's what this shows they they they they walk this line of just how much can we get away with seems to be always a type of thing and that line keeps moving yeah so so then um so so we have like the oh from the beginning and then the ticot guy and then there's a third guy who i don't think we see in these videos but he's like the the one who's got it together um like he's a good talker and he was like a nice guy just interpersonally and he says to me like look can we
Starting point is 01:09:58 talk human to human do you mind not filming um and uh i was like okay but i'm going to be writing about it obviously and he's like he's like well you're going to try to spend my way anyway we've read to speak off the record um or on background and basically he says he's being very sincere or, you know, showing sincerity. He's like, you went through something very traumatic yesterday. We're very sorry that it happened. We don't like it either. These settlers caused us a lot of problems.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And it made us look very bad, what you said. Like, they always accidentally say that. He's like, it made us, like, very bad that you said we led you into it. And I was like, I know, I know, I noticed that it made you look really bad. I'm sorry. And he's like, why did you say that? And I'm like, well, because you let me. So anyway, then they start actually disputing.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Like, you know, they will claim that basically what they're saying, that first they were saying, the first thing was we don't know that, we didn't know there were settlers there. So then I reminded them that we had a conversation about it. I played them the video. And I reminded them that there were two. settlers waiting there in plain sight and then they said we had other missions and we couldn't wait around to make sure that like every settler was gone so we knew about those but we didn't know
Starting point is 01:11:29 about all the others like okay all right so that's what you want to say fine and then um basically i said okay so you're saying you didn't know how do you not know there's a hundred people right here like there's not like there were four of them and they're just sticking to we didn't know but then coming back to, like, they really want me to revise the record to say that maybe they messed up, but they did not, there was no deliberate attempt to lead us into harm's way. And, like, I'm not under any illusion that suddenly, like, because this video got a lot of views, settler violence is over, obviously. But it actually reminds me of a scene from no other land, the documentary, where Tony Blair goes to visit one of the communities in Masfriata and brings a day of international attention to this village that's going to be demolished.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And then he leaves, and they don't demolish it. And the villagers are like, look, did Tony Blair, like, help us? yes he like probably saved this one village for demolition does it solve all of our problems absolutely not but it goes to show that like you know israel as you say sam like they are responsive to diplomatic pressure in like in some ways despite how it might look in gaza like that's why they have not killed more people to answer that questions of the genocide deniers say it's like because they need to maintain a certain level of standing and And so I think a video goes viral yesterday of an older woman being clubbed unconscious.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And like, I mean, and to make matters worse, there's a video of like a zombie apocalypse of settlers chasing an American. And I'm making a lot of noise about it. I think that the message got to them that like if there's another really, and I told them, like, I'll be here tomorrow. So we'll see what happens. I think the message came through. If tomorrow's another bad day, we might be in some trouble.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Well, I mean, yeah, Israel is obsessed with public perception or international perception, right? Like you see the footage even from like the protests in Tel Aviv, the so-called liberal Israelis are all basically like they'll show sympathy for Palestinians, but many times the framing is that we don't want the world to have this critique of us. And so when you can turn that vulnerability against them to your point via journalism, that's where it puts them in a position where they have to respond to it. Let me ask you this. What capacity does A, the idea, I mean, two soldiers, if they had seen those hundred settlers, it would have been a different story, right? I mean, the soldiers have a lot more firepower than those settlers do at that moment.
Starting point is 01:14:35 And the settlers can't afford to attack the IDF. not at that moment. A, but B, what capacity, and correct me if I'm wrong on that, what capacity does the IDF have to know where those settlers came from, right? Like, I mean, it's not like there are roving nomadic. Yes, that's a great point because actually you just reminded me. I forgot about this. The soldier who I was arguing with, the like smarter one said to me, we don't know where that, I was like, have you arrested the guy yet? He's like, no, I'm like, why not? He's like, we don't know where he lives. And I said to him, yes, we do. He lives in one of the farmhouses that's been occupied or he lives in one of the tents
Starting point is 01:15:21 that have been put up. Like the settlers have a very clear, systematic way of stealing land. What happens is they're in their settlement. And then a couple of them peel off. They put a tent down and a flag. Like I said before, they build an outpost. And now, with this government, years later or months later, Smotrich retroactively recognizes it as a settlement. So to be clear, like these settlers who are completely out of control, like rogue, savage, you know, the most violent of the settlers, or some of the most violent, I should say, these are the ones, like this is why when Yenon Levy, a settler murdered out of Atholene a couple weeks ago. or a couple months ago in Umal Khair,
Starting point is 01:16:08 this is why Smotrich and a bunch of other right-wing Israelis come out and say, you know, this is a Jewish pioneer. These are the people on the frontier of the Jewish state. Because these violent settlers are quite literally pushing the boundary. And so this band of, you know, savages, they are doing the government's bidding by being out here putting down roots and terrorizing Palestinians and getting, getting them off the land. And right now, it looks really bad for them. But, you know, in a couple
Starting point is 01:16:40 years from now, people will forget about the woman who got clubbed in the head. And if the settlers did their job well, then they will have gotten the Palestinians out. And now they'll be a respectable settlement here. And so that's how it happens. There was a video that you took, and I can't remember from when it was over the past couple of days. And I don't know where you are pointing to the guy you were with's land and there's the hardware store and the which one which one is that way do you remember which day that was it's going to you can find in my like Instagram stories Matt if you want to look that's what I know what you're referring to and I can explain it so well yeah because this is a perfect visual example of what you're talking about how they sort of like creeping
Starting point is 01:17:34 take one sort of like 25 yards at a time essentially yeah Matt I'm going to send it to you it'll take me do you want me to take a minute is it in your stories
Starting point is 01:17:50 right now yeah I have your stories up here hold on I'm just texting it to you man sorry uh revealed but that that really that for me was really made it clear on how this happens because it's so it's it it's hard to conceive of what's going on there i think
Starting point is 01:18:12 for americans who have a just a different perception of this stuff i text it to sam and said because mad you don't have an iphone and i don't have a good service here but um yeah so so while you're hopefully getting it i'll explain what it is um so we're looking out actually i'm i'm in Termosite, so the town that we've been talking about. And we're looking out at the Shiloh settlement on one side and the other settlement, Adayad, and then all this agricultural land in between Termosia and the two settlements. And this is the land that has been basically taken by the sepours. Did you get it, Matt, or Sam?
Starting point is 01:19:00 It hasn't come through yet. okay um all right well it's okay your your explanation i think we'll cover yeah my instagram stories it would be in the the um romola district uh stories but anyway let me just explain what it is it's uh okay so so basically there's a bunch of like shells of buildings but like really nice looking buildings because again, it's like a wealthy area. And the guy who I'm with, who's Yasser, the farmer that I've been with, is pointing at each of these buildings and explaining to me what it was supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:19:44 So this one over here was somebody building a house for his family. And before they could finish it, the settlers started coming and threatening them. And now the settlers are literally using it as a base. This one over here is a local hardware store owner. was ready to open up a second location. He wanted to do it in the olive fields, which is obviously a place where somebody might need to go to get farm tools.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And before he gets to finish it, the settlers take it over. So, like, point by point, they are just taking each of these things that the Palestinians have actually built. Did you get it? I got it. I sent it to you.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Oh, my God. By the time, this is... Don't hold that up if there's a number on them. Yeah. No, there's no phone numbers. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Yeah. And perfect. Yes, this is perfect. This is perfect. This is how it all starts. It starts with a tent. Then it becomes a container. The container becomes multiple containers.
Starting point is 01:20:55 They put up the flag. It's wearing the flag. And all of a sudden it becomes there. that building over there all right yeah that building it used to be for a home supply store building supplies
Starting point is 01:21:16 under construction another company which is in the middle of the town wanted to construct another location here further away from the center of the town and were interrupted and they could not continue it and all of a sudden it now has uh they is ready so the the frame for that building was a hardware store being built by somebody in the town who has so many in the town yeah and others just really these two buildings this building right here yeah this building
Starting point is 01:21:53 they're closest to us the owner cannot finish it because every time he uh he does any plumbing they come in and they steal the pipes or they steal the hoses. That building, that building, it's residential apartments. The owner cannot finish it. The settlers are constantly inside and attacking it, breaking things inside it. And one other thing that I did not capture in that video is they stole all of the grape finds or the grape plants and this piss me off so much they opened up a winery so there is now a brand of wine that ships to the u.s. by the way what's it called it's called shiloh winery
Starting point is 01:22:49 and it has great reviews on google which also pissed me off like the winery itself which of course is you know open to um uh non-palitinians only So they are now making wine off of stolen Palestinian grapes and selling it and profiting off it, obviously. Meanwhile, Palestinians are not even allowed to dig for water. So it's just – and this view actually, though, Sam brings up one other point I want to make about the town, which is that, like this town is unusual because, like I keep saying, they have money. And these people, for the most part, maybe with some exceptions, they don't rely on – olives as like their primary income. So their livelihood does not depend on being able to get to
Starting point is 01:23:37 the olive groves like it does in so many other places that I've been. However, when you ask them, when you ask the farmers like, why do you keep going out, risking your life over it, you know, it is a pride thing in part. I mean, I think a lot of people know that like the olive tree has a lot of symbolic value to Palestinians too. It takes a very long time to grow. But there's also a very practical thing, which is that the settlers, like in that view you were showing Sam, they started at the two settlements. They took a little bit of land. They took a little more land. They started occupying these buildings. They took a little more. They're almost at the village. And the people in the town feel that if they don't go out into the fields and put up some level of
Starting point is 01:24:23 resistance, even if it means just being there, then it's a matter of time before the settlers overtake the village. And when I tell you, there are beautiful homes in this place, I mean, I have no doubt that the settlers are, you know, their mouths are watering over the opportunity to kick people out of these homes. So it really is like an existential threat to what is like a pretty wealthy, largely American community. And like we're literally talking about the people that you see in that attack video that we showed earlier. So like that's what they're up. up against. And that's who America is just completely refusing to defend them against. And that's why I think this place in particular is so interesting. Like if these people are now as
Starting point is 01:25:12 as they are, just imagine the shepherding communities, the Bedouin communities. I mean, they are utterly defenseless. And I mean, it really is just like a sign of just how grave things are that the most privileged parts of the West Bank are now experiencing the same type of ongoing regular, deadly violence, land theft, and the U.S. government and the Israeli government are deeply complicit in it. And the only hope, you know, just to go by what the Palestinians say, at least, or the ones that I know, is to keep telling their story. And I know that's like cliche, and it's like, well, did it get us anywhere with Gaza? I mean, it kind of did because, like, if there was not the enormous wave of public opinion shifting, like, the genocide
Starting point is 01:26:12 probably never would have ended. And the thing is, like, you're not seeing that with the West Bank at all. Like, there's very, very little noise about the West Bank. So while there's this ceasefire in Gaza that we're all supposed to be celebrating, which, by the way, I'm, like, behind on news. I hear Israel's back to bombing. Yes. But even so, like, in the, like, two days of quiet, such as it existed, West Bank was as bad as it's ever been, as it's ever been in terms of Israeli violence and no noise about it whatsoever from the mainstream media, from political figures and they are going to get run right off this land if that doesn't change and so yeah well uh jasper nathaniel uh folks can see your reporting and support your reporting at uh infinite jazz on substack
Starting point is 01:27:11 we're going to put a link to that folks should also follow you either on instagram or uh twitter uh because the the amplification of what you're sending out clearly, at the very least, is helpful in that narrow context. Hopefully some will spill over, but I can't tell you how much, I appreciate you're coming on and the work you're doing, really important stuff, and obviously dangerous. Stay safe. Good luck with this. And keep us updated. All right. Sam, Emma. Thank you. Thanks so much.
Starting point is 01:27:50 All right, folks. We've got to take a break. Yeah, buckets and buckets. Isn't the ceasefire over? It certainly seems like it. Apparently an Israeli bulldozer went over on an exploded ordinance, and they decided to blame that on Hamas. Trump has also conceded that Israeli-backed gangs in Gaza were firing at Israel. firing at Israel to stir things up, but that, you know, the bottom line is Israel just continues
Starting point is 01:28:24 to bomb innocent civilians. You at least give me a month so I can pose for the Nobel Prize, please. So, but it's also fascinating that you would presume, I mean, we all assume, like, oh, okay, he's whatever, however many miles away, you know, an hour is driving. from the Gaza Strip, but the way the news works within the context of Israel is I don't think they don't cover such things in any way that the Israeli public would have information and certainly not in just the West Bank. Again, we'll put that link up to Jasper's substack,
Starting point is 01:29:17 support him. Frankly, I think he should have a system of backup cameras. But, all right, we're going to take a break. Head into the fun half. Don't forget, justcoffee.coop. Today, in lieu of membership call, go support Jasper's work on Substack. That would be helpful. Matt, Left Reckoning.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Yeah, Left Reckoning, we had a Sunday show for members. yesterday at patreon.com says left reckoning we got into some stuff with Zoran and him and this final stretch of the campaign and also talked about Graham Platner who is good and is going to be the next senator for Maine.
Starting point is 01:30:01 All right, quick break. Fun half. Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now, and I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now and I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is three months. months from now. But I think
Starting point is 01:30:18 around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts. Wait a second. Hold on for, hold on for a second. The majority report. Emma, welcome to the program.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Hey. Unhapped. Matt. Blue. Fun hack. What is up, everyone? Fun hack. No, me, keen. You did it. Fun hack. Let's go Brandon.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Let's go Brandon. Let's go Brandon. Bradley, you want to say hello? Sorry to disappoint. Everyone, I'm just a random guy. It's all the boys today. Fundamentally false. No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Women's? Stop talking for a second. Let me finish. Where is this coming from, dude? But dude, you want to smoke this? Seven, eight. Yes. All right, me.
Starting point is 01:31:13 You're safe? Yes. Um, is it's neat. Is it me? It is you. Um, is it's me? Oh, I'm, it's me. I think it is you.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Who is you? No sound. Every single freaking day. What's on your mind? We can discuss free markets and we can discuss capitalism. I'm going to go to life. Who libertarians? They're so stupid, though.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Common sense says, of course. Gobbled e-gook. We fucking nailed him. So what's 79? 9 plus 21. Challenge met. I'm positively clovery. I believe 96, I want to say.
Starting point is 01:31:51 857. 210. 35. 501. One half. 3-8s. 9-11, for instance. $3,400, $1,900.
Starting point is 01:31:59 $6.5,4, $3 trillion sold. It's a zero-sum game. Actually, you're making me think less. But let me say this. Poop. You can call it satire. Sam goes to satire. On top of it all, my favorite part about you is just like every day.
Starting point is 01:32:16 day, all day, like everything you do. Without a doubt. Hey, buddy, we see you. All right, folks, folks, folks. It's just the week being weeded out, obviously. Yeah, sundown guns out. I don't know. But you should know.
Starting point is 01:32:40 People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore. I have a question. Who cares? Our chat is enabled, folks. I love it. I do love that. Look, got to jump. I got to be quick.
Starting point is 01:32:54 I get a jump. I'm losing it, bro. Two o'clock, we're already late, and the guy's being a dick. So screw him. Sent to a gulaw? Outrage. Like, what is wrong with you? Love you.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Bye. Love you. Bye-bye. Thank you.

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