The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3609 - Provocateur's Attacking Anti-Ice Protestors in Portland w/ Carissa Phelps, Jerrod Zisser

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

It's Thursday and on today's program: Mike Johnson tells newly elected Representative Adelita Grijalva to get to work despite the fact he is still refusing to swear her into office. Sam interviews lawyers attending the Mass Tort Conference in Las Vegas. Today's guest are: Carissa Phelps from Survivors First discusses her work to support survivors of Back Page and City X Guide. Jerrod Zisser from Ring of Fire Network talks with Sam about his experiences in Portland, Oregon amidst ICE resistance and witnessing the federal siege of Washington D.C. In the Fun Half: We take a look at some patriots resisting ICE in their communities. Zohran Mamdani confronts Andrew Cuomo over his 13 sexual harassment accusations at the second NYC mayoral debates. Mamdani hilariously mocks Bill Ackman on Andrew Schulz's podcasts. The GOP candidate for Lt. Governor of Virginia creates an Ai version of his opponent and "debates" her in what seems like a lost Tim and Eric sketch. Graham Platner continues his campaign in the face intense opposition research hit pieces. All that and more The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: SHOPIFY: Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/majority SUNSET LAKE:  Head to SunsetLakeCBD.com and use coupon code “Left Is Best” (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order  Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech Check out Matt’s show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon’s show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza’s music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com

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We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA, and deep, deep in the bowels of an unnamed Las Vegas casino, where I am covering the masked torts conference. Also on the program today, in a too obvious metaphor, Trump decides to destroy the entire east wing of the White House while already announcing cost overruns to his big, beautiful ballroom. Day 23 of government shutdown. Oh, incidentally, they're still working on the White House. They're still probably getting paid. it's day 23 of the government shutdown we are on the verge of a um health care crisis in this country

as folks on the exchanges are going to get priced out of those exchanges they're going to get priced out of health care uh insurance all of our rates are going to go up republican senate to vote on paying select federal workers probably the ones you're not too excited about what they're up to it. Dems want all federal workers paid as tomorrow starts to mark the first fully missed federal worker paycheck day.

Senator Jeff Merkley holds the Senate floor for 23 hours to point to Trump's authoritarianism. U.S. kills five more boaters. we don't know who they are this time it's in the pacific ocean 25 states to cut food assistance in about a week as the government shutdown continues four u.s citizens arrested by ice yesterday in new york cities on canal street meanwhile feds planned to invade san francisco Pentagon now touting a new generation of press

who are the only ones who are allowed to cover the Pentagon because they signed a document that said that the Pentagon can okay all of their news reports includes exclusively far-right outlets like Mike Lindell TV Tim Poole and Gateway Pundit Durham, I'm done he maintains his frontrunner status in the mayoral debate, despite the fact that he's still mayor, I guess. Eric Adams endorses Cuomo.

Trump's crypto champion, the Binance founder, gets pardoned by Trump. That's convenient. speaking of which milania of meme coin loses 95% of its value and a kirk critique doxing site that was set up in the wake of the assassination of charlie kirk took $30,000 in crypto from people who visited it and it's now just disappeared no all this and more on today's majority report uh welcome ladies and gentlemen as you can see uh Emma I think you can see this I am I am not sitting in the same office as you I am in fact in sunny Las Vegas oh okay you can see the flowers over my back sun the flowers yeah it's it's it's it's it's

I mean, we're talking about Trump's Gilded Age ballroom. It seems like it'll look something like where you are right now. Exactly, exactly. And I want to say up front, there's been a lot of discussion about my voice on this trip. Yes. And longtime listeners of the program know this happens every time I go to Vegas. First of all, it's the Vegas flu. I am, I am feeling fine.

I'm a little bit tired. First off, people should understand. I have to get up at 5.30 in the morning in Las Vegas to do this show. Because normally, you know, we get into the office. I get in, you know, nine, a little bit before nine. And it's three hours behind, it turns out. I had no idea about this whole Pacific time difference. And you had no idea.

I had forgotten about it. And, of course, I go out at night. I mean, I don't go crazy. I like to play a little blackjack. And part of that is about the free drinks that are at the table. Let's not kid ourselves, because it's certainly not about me winning big time. And so, and it's incredibly dry here. And if you put those three things together, this is what happens to my voice.

And when I get back to New York, you know, revert. It's okay. I don't want people to panic anymore. That's all. Thanks for clearing that up. Yeah. Well, it's been a big issue, I know, and people are talking about it. That's a real thing. I've run into a couple of fans out here. My favorite was so far was the guy who saw me in the lobby of the hotel, and he said, I was just telling my wife that you were here. I can't believe it. I love you guys. I'm a cannabis grower in California

and I love Matt. Shout out. There you go. It's like the camaraderie from around from across the country. The proximity, the close proximity between mentioning he was a cannabis

grower and Matt I found that was the best part of it. That tickled you. All right. Let's just in a moment But I'm going to be talking to the co-founder of Survivors first, Chris of Phelps. But first, let's take a look at Mike Johnson, essentially telling the congresswoman elect that he will not swear in that she should get busy to work as a congresswoman.

that's the only thing she's prevented from doing there's a lot of important casework to be done by her constituents who need help and need guidance right now and she could be on the phone all day long as the rest of us are trying to help her constituents navigate through it it's a bit of a red her hearing for her to say there's nothing for her to do maybe the house democrat leaders need to give her a little guidance on that as a new member and help her understand of the many ways that she should be serving her folks right now house speaker mike johnson thank you idea that there's no pushback on that she's not allowed to have any staff she's not allowed to pay anybody to do that case work she presumably doesn't have an office i mean is she supposed to do

this from her cell phone basically like what like what is i don't understand like what he he's claiming that she can do you should also say the attorney general um uh is suing in arizona yeah in Arizona is suing Mike Johnson to seat her because they have no representation. And he's refusing to do this. And everybody knows why. There's only one reason. Congress is not in session. There's only one reason why he will not do this because he doesn't want to bring Congress

back into session. He doesn't want to have to sign to swear her in because he is afraid of her forcing a vote on the Epstein files. All right. Yeah. All right, we've got a guest here. You want to come as to have a seat. I'm going to switch cameras.

And let's see. Hopefully this works. All right. If you could just, yeah, step in just a little bit. Hi, Krissa, Phelps. We've interviewed before, yes? Yeah. Okay.

We have. It was a couple of years ago. Mm-hmm. You're the co-fell. founder of a Survivor's First, and you're working on a couple of things. Yes. And if I remember correctly, it was a little bit, there was some controversy among some of our listeners when you came on.

You were at that time, I think, working on, was it on the backstage stuff, or was on a mass torts against some hotels or motels, I guess? All of the above. All of the above. So back page and also any website that was benefiting or profiting from sex trafficking and then any businesses that were benefiting or profiting from sex trafficking. But I think the controversy was definitely around Fasta Sesta, which your listeners have nothing to worry about because we were basically like destroyed in court

and CDA 230 held up, which I think caused a lot of problems for victims and survivors And now for people who want the truth online and not trash, it's causing more problems. But we tried with Fossa Sesta. Yeah, just remind people what that was. I mean, it was definitely a controversial piece of legislation amongst people who I think, at least in some respects, had similar goals. Yeah. I mean, what we wanted to do was people who were benefiting from putting websites up

that were selling children and victims of sex trafficking with visible signs of abuse, drug addiction, forced into prostitution. We wanted them to be shut down. They just shouldn't have been online. And just like we're trying to get fentanyl taken off, you know, drug dealing of other dangerous things, like people were being harmed and we wanted to shut it down. Fasta Sesta was supposed to give us the tools to do that civilly. And unfortunately, it did not. We are finding other ways to hold companies accountable and we're still in the fight. Okay, so let's talk about,

let's start with back page. Remind people what back page, they're out of business now, or are they? Well, yeah, they went out of business. They went into, you know, criminal proceedings against them for benefiting from prostitution and proceeds from prostitution

and money laundering and all sorts of crimes that were involved in basically taking proceeds from traffickers, who were listing victims online. And so the civil cases were started, they began the investigations with the civil cases, and then there were criminal proceedings against them. Assets were seized, both, you know, there was cash seized, there was real estate seized, there was Bitcoin seized because Bitcoin was used in transactions when Visa and MasterCard

and AMX never really was used on the site. But when those things were shut down, also gift cards were used on the site. So when those assets were seized, there was the criminal proceedings that had to go forward. And then in December, there was a settlement with the DOJ to have some of those proceeds go into a victim remission fund. And so that's a little over $200 million, $215 million that came to settlement there. And then there was another pot of funds and Bitcoin that were seized from CityX Guide, which was another site that, took the place of Backpage when it was shut down. And so that those funds as well are being made available to victims through a remission process. And so how does that, how does that

the victim relief fund function? So the DOJs contracted with Epic. I think we've got some Epic people here. They're a large company that helped to basically oversee things like Boy Scouts when those lawsuits happened and they're overseeing the fund and sending it up and helping administer it. They're the administrators. And the DOJ, through their money laundering team, they've done remission funds in the past for victims of fraud and large funds, billions of dollars. They haven't worked with survivors of trafficking yet. So there's a lot to learn. And the window is short. It's July 31st to February 2nd. It came out July 31st. The application did. And so we're currently in the, We only, and this is what I'm here, Sam, is we only have three months, and we're trying to reach a global, I mean, this is global.

This is international victims, people who were trafficked here. We know people were trafficked into massage parlors from overseas, and maybe they were sent back. Maybe they're not, you know, this is the only chance to maybe reach them, and that's what we're trying to do. And how, I mean, I imagine most people will know if they qualify or they may qualify. There may be some that don't. I mean, it was part of the problem, if I recall, with being trafficked in many instances. They didn't know that what was happening to them was illegal. They just thought, like, bad luck or something like that.

Sure. Yeah, no, there's a lot of sort of, and I know my friend Alicia was on here talking, but there's a lot of sort of victims blame themselves, right? They think that it was their fault. They think it was their choice even at some points of time. They don't understand the coercion. It's this invisible force. If drugs were used, that could be used against them.

They could have been arrested, possibly, for that drug use. And so there's the whole immigration issues. They could have been deported, and they don't think they qualify for that reason. No, people who were harmed on Backpage qualify for this fund. And they were listed sometimes without them knowing, and those are the most difficult cases. Some people are in jail or prison right now, or they, you know, we can't reach them. They're harder to reach. They're incapacitated.

They also qualify if their family members of deceased victims can file as claimants. And so reaching them is probably the most difficult thing. How many people do you think that there are? I mean, obviously, you don't know the exact number, but approximately, how many people do you think there are that would qualify for these funds that are out there? I mean, we're probably reaching over a million people, but it's not going to be that many people that apply. There's just not going to be that many people that apply. apply, probably in the tens of thousands or maybe upwards of 100,000 might hear about it, right?

And then who's going to actually apply and be able to get access to resources? There's a pro bono group of people doing legal work that I've been consulting with and working with. There are civil attorneys who are running ads and getting cases. So everybody's trying to now get the word out and try to get representation for the victims, which I think is really important. They don't have to have an attorney to do the application or the petition form, but I think you need one. And why?

Just because it's complicated and you need to establish certain... I mean, you're giving all your information to the government. Right. Who wants to do that without an attorney? I mean, especially if you're ever accused of a crime, right? Especially if you ever think that maybe there's something in your past that you don't want exposed. If you have a trafficker that's locked up that might find out something about your current situation or where you're at, those type of things that. a lawyer can consider with you also diagnosis you know you're sending that all if you're sending

that all in what do you want really the government to have about you i think that's important to speak to a lawyer about and be informed at every stage right okay um let's uh let's in and well i guess lastly where could people find out like a get involved in that process sure um well our our website for survivors is survivors first dot community and then we have backpage remission dot com as the doj's a official website, backpage remission.com. I wouldn't go to backpage.com. That now goes, the DOJ didn't hold it. Now it goes to some milf site.

It's awful. But backpageremission.com and backpageremissionnetwork.org. National Center for Missing Exploited Children is running a pro bono group of attorneys through there. And so they're helping assign cases to attorneys. All right. Well, we'll get those links from you later. And we'll post them in the podcast and YouTube description.

All right, let's talk about another topic that I heard that you are beginning to advocate for that I think might be a little more controversial, and that is to roll back the legal status of prostitution in Nevada. Yeah. Tell us about that. So the heartbreaking thing doing this work, Sam, I mean, you do it day in and day out and you hear from people who think that prostitution is okay. That is something that they get into thinking that they can get out.

They could just, you know, sort of get what they need out of it and get out. Unfortunately, we don't see that often. Sometimes we see people who benefit or they get something else out of it. They may even get a thrill out of it, right? But they're far, far, far too often. Like more and more, more we see that people get trapped in it. Somebody comes to exploit them through it. Someone else takes the proceeds from them.

And that could be a trafficker. And in the case of brothels, it could be a brothel. So I have friends who have done the deeper research on these brothels and have brought it to my attention and to others that this is not something that people go into it and they stay willingly all the time. They have restrictions and rules and even parameters around food and how they can go in and out of properties where prostitution is legal in these brothels. And because it's legal in some of these brothels, people get the importance. impression that it's an okay thing to do to purchase a human being. I think going into a campaign where we tell people, you know, no, prostitution absolutely is a harm. It creates a harm and it creates a sort of uncapped cost to society through the harms that it does to individual

lives and families. We want people to understand, you know, this is not something that is something we want our family members to go into as a career choice or something that we think is an okay um option so taking it off the table making it illegal is both you know it's for the all the survivors that i've served who've been taken into those places and it's for my my niece and my great niece who's being raised you know raised here that this is their this is their state this is where they're from um just making sure that they know that it's so why not i mean if i mean a part of it i guess is the you you perceive it as immoral i mean that That's what it sounds like when you talk about, because it's not just a question of individuals going and buying someone's body.

I don't think the act of sex and sexual things are immoral. And I don't even think so. I think what it is is the wreckage we leave behind is immoral. Well, is that a function. Could there not be a better worker protections in these instances? Could there not be better regulations that could protect people within that context? I mean, the experiments have been done and people come out harmed in multiple ways. There was a recent case against a high net worth individual who was entering into these very strict contracts with people he was purchasing for sex.

And he basically did a lot of damage and now has to answer to it criminally, but had had to answer to it civilly. many times in the lives that were impacted. We just, we can't, we can't sort of recover from that. So that's why we make things illegal is we don't, we don't let people drive 100 miles per hour down, you know, our walk places where people are walking, our pedestrians are walking because we know we can't control the dangers of that, right? I, yeah, I, I'm not sure that's the perfect analogy

because you're still going to have prostitution. It's just there's going to be. be, it seems to me that you will have more opportunity for a trap for trafficking. You'll have more opportunity for exploitation of those sex workers because now just by being in that act, they are now themselves criminally culpable and have less of an opportunity to speak out. Never want to criminalize the person being sold. That makes no sense and it doesn't do any help. So the person actually who maybe even offers themselves for services, they're never to be criminalized. That doesn't help the situation at all ever. So what is it that you're talking about rolling back then?

So it would be the people who profit off of the brothels, the people who profit off of organizing prostitution around a system. So we see it often online, all over online. I know I recently met with somebody who has experienced these agency effects on OnlyFans. So, like, the people, they gather and they try to profit off of it. It's almost human nature, right? When something seems and appears to be, especially legal, businesses are set up around it. And then there's a need for more people, there's a need for, there's a demand. There's a need for more people to be sold.

So what these agencies get into is recruiting and saying that they're not going to have to do, much on these videos and then it sort of escalates from there. So we know that these businesses will be set up and it will create these siphons to bring people in and there'll be a need for basically more supply. So I guess I'm like trying to get what the contours of what becomes illegal. I mean, I have no problem with, you know, some type of regulation that says there cannot be more than, you cannot have an entity that hires more than, or employees more than four people, you know, or contractors who are engaging in prostitution as a way of making it impossible for that, you know, for the idea of like we're going to continue to

recruit people on. But four will turn into hundreds because you could roll people through. That's what they do at the brothels, right? like they'll roll people through and so it's not a number won't really do it if you if you do not have what so what is the legal avenue for someone who does want to um uh practice prostitution in that instance like where is the legal protections for them to keep them from being exploited which i think is part of your agenda here uh and uh but also to keep them to keep them protected from the possibility that some user of their services is abusive.

So it's a very dangerous line of work. I mean, it's very dangerous. If you were to call it work at all, it's very dangerous. Like the amount of rape, abuse, harm, the escalation that goes on in terms of what buyers want. And then you have people who want, you know, companionship. they want somebody to be there with them. And there's this sort of fairy tale of like pretty woman or whatever, whatever that thing was. Right. And so there's there are people who have explained to me that they themselves, you know, get some sort of joy out of it, that they want to do it. And I understand that. And I'll meet them exactly where they're at. And I will say to them, you know, that seems like it's something that's benefiting you in ways that aren't just about money, right?

seems like maybe you're doing this for relationship, you're doing this for money. I guess from my perspective, it's like people should have autonomy to do what they want in this context. And if it is not hurting other people, then they should have the autonomy to do what they want. It's not, I wouldn't, you know, recommend it for people. But there's a lot of professions, frankly, I wouldn't recommend people. Right. No, I'd love to include, you know, sort of more research by Dr. Melissa Farley, Dr. Lexus Kennedy, who have just gone very deep into this. I'm just the lawyer. I just talked to the experts who are the doctors and the researchers. And so they're the ones that have come to us and said, you know, this is far too dangerous.

This doesn't result in anything beneficial for that individual or for society over time. So the fact is that there's far too many people being harmed. So yes, somebody might get a great thrill or maybe even win some money in a drag race down the street, right? but they're going to hurt people or they are going to get hurt. So that's why we have laws in place. And laws that allow and permit prostitution give the sense and give the ability for people to sort of excuse their behavior and think that it's okay.

Yeah, I can't. I feel like we're going back and talking past each other here. Like I am against workers being exploited. I think there is a whole raft of a profession. that do great harm to society and exploit their workers and people walk away with profits and any way we could stop that dynamic

but the fact is is that prostitution is going to continue and putting people under the specter of being illegal and if there's a way to not criminalize never criminalize them the prostitutes but also you know criminalize the you know exploitive structures I'm so I don't know if you know I don't know

if we talked about it last time when I was here but you know I was 12 when I was on the streets and so I saw a lot and at a very young age and I was taken by somebody who was standing on the street as an adult who was pregnant she was very pregnant she was about six months pregnant and her eye was sort of hanging out of her head because she had been hit in the face with a gas can by her boyfriend. And she looked at me and she said, can I help you? And I thought, well, yeah, sure, can I help you? Like, what can I do for you?

You're in this dire situation. And so in taking her in, I was then kidnapped by this trafficker and then taught how to be sold onto the streets there. And that whole marketplace, that whole, like, idea of a parkway, a motel drive where kids are being sold, it's all over this country. It's rampant. It's happening every night, every day. And the culprit is the fact that we look the other way when people are bought and sold and we think there's no harm being done. So this is sort of the start of saying, you know, there is harm that is done when this is happening. I even believe, like, watching Pretty Woman and things like that kind of gives the feeling like everything's okay. I found that movie super creepy. And it's not, right? So the message to two young girls who are out there who are on sites like Sugar Day, or these places where they think they're going to get through college by doing this is that,

no, this is not okay. And the message that we're sending is that there's harms done that we can't undo, that don't get undone. And they're in our society. They happen. Every street, every city has a street like this. Every city. That's what I got to find out when I got out of it.

I thought I was unique. I thought this just happened to me. But every single city, they have streets like this. Truck stops with Bitcoin machines, because that's what was used to buy. ads. That's when I drove from Florida to Nevada, that's what I see. That's what's happening in the United States because prostitution is legal in these small little counties in Nevada where we're saying, oh, this is a victimless thing and it's not. Do you think that there is worse exploitation going on in Nevada as opposed to other states? I do think this is a destination

place. I have far too many victims as minors brought here, the first ever minor court for victims of trafficking. They were charged themselves. These little girls were charged when I first started doing this work. These young little girls, 12, 13, 14 years old, locked up with prostitution charges, literally handcuffs put on them. This is what we started with. So, and in Las Vegas and in Nevada. Where can people get more information about your effort to do this? So it's going to, it's going to be going public. I'm telling everybody, you know, that's, that's what's next on the agenda for me as soon as we get through the back page deadline. So it will start being going public. There will be coalitions. There's already been lawsuits through Nicosi National Center on

online sexual exploitation. And there's there's different organizations that are coming together to form this coalition. So you'll be hearing from us widely. All right. Great. Well, Chris Phelps, co-founder of survivors first. Thanks so much for telling us about it. Thank you, Sam. We'll keep our eyes open. Thank you. Thanks. All right, folks. couple of ad reads and then we're going to be sitting down with Jared Zeisser, Zisser. And Jared is taken over the mantle. Oh, wait, let me switch my camera here. Uh, wait, where did I go? Are you there? Are you there? I can't hear you guys. Oh, now?

Yeah, I can hear you now, yep. Okay. Let's, uh, we're just reframing. Oh, there we go. Okay. Uh, in a moment, we're going to be talking to, uh, Jared, uh, Zitzer, who Zisser, sorry, did it wrong again, who is taking over, uh, for Farron, uh, cousins on Ring of Fire radio. And Jared's been, um, uh, reporting from, um, um, uh, reporting from.

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I'm just going to, Emma's going to take a break. And joining me here again from the Mass Toritz conference, the 2025 uh jared zisser jared come on in uh jared i'm going to switch cameras here you have a seat um jared is taking over ring of fire come on in a little bit closer i know we've got to get you on on camera there uh jared is taken over a ring of fire radio uh from farren cousins of course uh big part one of the big reasons why i've been coming to this um

conference for now 10, 12 years, I think it is, is because I used to do Ring of Fire with Mike Papantonio and the guy who used to be Robert Kennedy Jr. And over the years, I've interviewed

Fred Gray, who was Rosa Parks' attorney. I have interviewed public interest law firms. There's interesting cases and really interesting lawyers here, some who are real anti-corporate zealots. And go after these corporations have seen a lot of really bad stuff. And from year to year, the cases change, but the intensity often remains the same.

And so it's great to have you out here. When do you officially start on Ring of Fire? So I officially start on November 1st. So everything's getting set up at the moment and very, very excited. And all right. So give me a little sense of your background. Well, before we get there, actually. So you were out in Portland.

Yes, I just was. Yeah. Tell us about that. When exactly were you out there? So I was in Portland, I think about a few weeks, a few weeks ago now. and my followers actually on Instagram are the ones that asked me to go out there because news was telling them five different stories

of what was actually happening and they wanted to know if there were actually you know war-ravaged streets in Portland so I definitely accepted the challenge and I flew out to Portland and wow I mean being as someone who served two tours in Iraq when I was in the Marine Corps

this was probably the closest I've ever been to seeing something, I will say war ravaged, but I will clarify basically it was only that way because it seemed DHS and ICE wanted it to look that way. And that sounds very conspiracy theorish, but I get that. But everything that was being done was being done on purpose. And actually, the one thing that was probably the craziest was the fact that there were around four to five right wing, very popular, famous right wing, agitated. that were showing up and just instigating and trying to start fights.

Okay. So you get out there and give me a sense first of like how big of an area within Portland is any of this activity taking place? Like I'm saying like, you know, could I be in Portland and not know that any of this was happening? You could be three, you could be four or five blocks away and have no idea this was going on unless you walk towards the facility. And so it's just around the facility.

it's block at most okay all right it's a block at most Portland's not a massive city but it's a it's a big city and so we're talking about one block yep of activity yep okay so uh uh you walk up up to that block what do you see like uh a guy in a banana suit yeah well actually a guy in a chicken suit he's pretty famous he's there all the time i'm familiar with the chicken suit very nice man um you'll see many different inflatable animals that are just dancing around having a good time you will have protesters that are using their first man rights to scream inflated with some type of explosive gas no okay just just the air around them I'm trying to yeah due diligence it's actually funny because it's not funny but it's terrible actually most of them are probably filled with pepper air because

of the amount of pepper bullets that are being shot um that's being shoved right into those suits and those people are inhaling basically constantly that which from what I understand based on limited research can cause cancer and other diseases in the future um but no nothing explosive okay so you go up there how many people uh were you there at night though I was there until four in the morning sometimes okay I stuck I heard it got really hairy at night yeah we've even had a Maltoff cocktail thrown at us oh is that night yeah um and someone attempted to uh basically light the tent area where the protesters were staying on fire while they were sleeping. Wait a second. So someone throws a Molotov cocktail you and someone tries to,

why would some, why would protesters light their own tent on fire? They wouldn't. They wouldn't. They wouldn't at all. No, this is literally their home. Some of them been there for over 120 days. You know, they'll maybe go home every once in a while or to somebody else's house to shower. Some of these people even sold their homes so they can actually be out there protesting to get rid of ice and to stop the kidnappings that are happening all through their city. So if the protesters didn't light their own tent on fire, did they throw the Molotov cocktail at themselves? No. So the Molotov cocktail was not thrown by protesters at ice. No. Somebody threw it at the in who, and did you have a sense of who? No, unfortunately not.

So what I, that actually happened to half hours after I left after I left that night. Things got increasingly worse, which is why I started staying later in the evenings, including almost getting run over and I have videotape of people in cars that are that were literally doing circles and coming around and trying to hit you with their cars and no these were not protesters these were people that you know did not agree with the fact that people are out you know exercising their First Amendment right to let the government know that they're not okay with what's happening and I don't know if they're being paid or what it is but it certainly seemed probably that reported in even the local press I think one

channel hit it was sent to me by one by one channel um somebody sent me a video of somebody one channel i think did hit on it but it didn't didn't do very well so no i mean the only people that were there were fox and fox didn't really go live on the air until one of the right winged um social media influencers was able to incite something and then they would run over to the um you know camera in the host sworder guy what is that so nick sorter was arrested uh days before i there and Nick Sorter was not there when I was there. There were other prevalent individuals that were there that were also being allowed into the ice facility and on the rooftops with the ice agents while they were shooting

at everybody, including myself, and they were videotaping it while obviously having laughs and smiles with the ice agents. This was one thing that killed me when I was there. They were having a ball. I was really hoping that these ice agents were like following orders, even though, not that makes it better, but not necessarily liking. enjoying what they're doing. The amount of laughs, high fives, and everything that I saw on those rooftops with these ice agents and the smiles, the smirky attitudes that they were giving people

really showed me how close we really are to the 1930s. I mean, you talk to people and they, you know, that had family in the Holocaust and everything else, and they mentioned how these German soldiers were acting, and I was just really hoping that they were doing this against their will because they needed to provide for their family. They were filming it. They were putting it on social media. They were having a great time. It was really heartbreaking, actually, to see.

It was really heartbreaking because they're not throwing rocks at ice agents. They're not doing anything they're not supposed to be doing. They're literally being they're screaming. That's protected. The protesters, right. 100%. And, um, And so, and you've got ice guys.

So the idea is these are not guys who are, you know, not happy about this. These ice operatives are just thugs who have finally had the shackles taken off. 100%. And they have the opportunity now to fire whatever it is, pepper balls or tear gas at people. And they're loving it. They loved it. Okay, let's turn from there and go to D.C. You were there for the days that D.C. was federalized.

This is when the cops, the city cops, were essentially augmented with some weird collection of federal corrections officers, ICE, FBI, probably DEA, ATF. ATF, and they were all, all of a sudden, beat cops walking around. Yeah. What was that like? Oh, man, that was really my first experience with seeing civil liberties being stripped from people in plain sight. And something I didn't think I would see personally, but even a woman being told she was going to be taking to jail with her like three-year-old.

old daughter on the street because she refused to identify herself to a metropolitan police officer. And once that police officer saw me filming, they actually turned around and walked away, like situations like that. Or, I mean, a gentleman who was pulled over in the middle of the night, I was luckily I was just on the right street on the right time. It was probably like around 1.30 or 2 in the morning. And he had a expired license.

And I heard, and this is just what I heard, and people around me heard it as well, he was a DACA recipient. So he, um, he was here legally. He was totally supposed to be here. He was still had 15 agents that were manhandling him and cuffing him and throwing him into the back of a unmarked vehicle and taken away. And these things were insane. And then just the overall fear that was being, it really put into perspective when I was carrying an M-16 in Iraq, you know, and these these towns and these cities with just civilians that had nothing to do with anything that was happening. Like I was in a pizza

place at like 1.30 in the morning because I didn't eat all day because I was literally just running through D.C and getting as much on camera as possible. And an an ATF agent, FBI agent, a DEA agent and I think it was two DEA agents, walked in with

M-4-style assault rifles just at the 45 degrees. And there was a woman, this woman that was sitting there trying to enjoy her food, who literally just started having like panic attacks like she was triggered by it in such a way where she was crying everything and i walked up to these police officers um federal agents and i was like you need to lower your weapons like this is not you're ordering a pizza what are you doing like just drop drop your weapons point them at the floor there's no reason for you to be at a 45 degree

angle waiting for somebody to come out of the back room and start shooting at you and this woman was just like literally like convulsing she was like so scared of this. So they were, they, they instilled so much fear in the DC area. And I'll tell you right now, I was out. So as soon as they announced it, I, we booked a flight and I left. So I was there from the very beginning. And I'll tell you right now, I stayed in a very sketchy place because I wanted to make sure my money could go farther while I was there. And I still, I didn't have any, I was outside of a nightclub that had four vehicles out there from 6 p.m. until three in the morning, just trying to scare the locals that were just trying to go to the club and have a good time.

You know, and I talked to even security professionals that were there. I even talked to a few FBI agents. You know, I had asked probably like 50 before one would talk to me. And even they were like, well, you know, this is very highly unnecessary, but we have to, are doing what we're told to do. And we're trying to be as, you know, gentle as we can be, which he said that, but what I saw otherwise was not, that was not the fact. It was, it was horrible.

I imagine amongst those people, there are some. that realized like this is i'm just got to do this because it's my job and others who are like this is a great time for me to go and crack heads yeah in a way that i never had the opportunity to do so you know it's funny you say that about the the 45 degree angle because uh brian back in the office also vet uh and he's always talking about like these guys don't seem to even have a clue as how to hold their weapons no it's really if you noticed that i mean as uh as a former uh as a as a former Marine, like that, have you noticed that? I did.

I mean, look, a 45 degree angle holding an assault rifle at a 45 degree angle. I mean, your, my rule of engagement in Iraq were if they break 45, that is intent to cause harm or kill. So if they break 45, do what you have to do. So the fact that somebody's walking around town at a 45 degree angle is not okay. They can leave it slung facing down. totally different. But no, I don't think these people truly understand. First of all, I think they're completely removed from the situation that's around them. They're being told something and they're being fed this narrative. You know, we've seen several videos online

where ICE officers are arguing with, you know, their sergeant or whoever about, you know, protesting is a constitutionally protected activity. And then they'll shut them down and say, no, this is not right. Do your jobs. Do what you're supposed to do, or basically get out you know what i mean it's a really tough place to be and i'll be honest with you it was a lot for me to take in those two trips especially were um i mean after portland i don't think i posted for two days i did not post for two days i called my therapist up and everything and i was like i just need to kind of run through everything that happened because what i saw was i mean one event sam that sounds a little more conspiracy theorist, but

it's like I witnessed it in real time was there was an order for the National Guard, I believe it was the Texas National Guard, to come into Portland. That got shut down by a judge. And then two hours later, two DGI drones flew out of the ice facility.

One went down one street, one went down another street. DGI. Oh, like the brand of like the drones everybody buys, sorry. And then two ice officers with, you know, like 4K cameras on gimbals. come out and playing clothes and everybody's just wondering what what's going on here you know and this video is on my instagram it's insane but about 70 to 80 ice officers came out um fully battle ready

um gas masks everything and basically pushed everybody back two to three blocks in two different directions and fired four to 500 rounds of pepper bullets and rubber bullets and flash bangs and smoke and tear gas and all of that over, they spread it out to about four blocks. And then just decided, okay, let's bring everybody back in and slowly retreated back inside after they got all their footage. And then that footage went live on the DHS Twitter, Twitter, yeah, on X. And then President Trump then said, okay, cool, we'll send the California National Garden instead. And then that got blocked as well. seemed as if he got told no and then he created this four to five city block just covered in

smoke and explosions. I think Merkley has talked about this like fake riot essentially they were trying to create. And I was on the ground and I have that entire thing on film. It was so intense. And what like what was so difficult for you to get over? Did you have like some were you a little bit? I mean, I imagine there was some idealism in your joining the military. in the first. There was. I took an oath. I 100% took an oath when I joined the Marine Corps that I feel is more important now than it ever was before. And this is my way of contributing to keeping democracy alive and keeping this experiment in this country going. And my way, I don't want to be the person that's asked 20 years from now that when these people were just trying to make a better life for themselves and they were being kidnapped in the middle of the night and thrown into trucks and sent to people. places they've never been, did you do anything? I don't want to be the person that says no. I want to at least be able to tell my kids, hey, look, I stepped up. I went and did what I thought was best for me, and that was starting, you know, my Instagram, my TikTok and my YouTube.

I joined Bring a Fire to make sure I can speak to a broader audience and did what I could to help people in this country, whether they were here legally, illegally, as long as they were trying to do something better for themselves and for, I mean, God, how much money did immigrants put into our federal system? Yeah, of course. I mean, it's ridiculous. And we're, it's, yeah. So, well, I think, um, uh, the, what we're going to see out of ice is it's going to expand. And it's, it's not just going to be geared towards immigrants.

Uh, it's not going to be geared towards, uh, legal residence. It's going to be geared towards everybody. Everybody is going to be going to have a lot of guns. There's going to be a lot of these thugs, and Donald Trump does not want to lose elections. No. So maybe those kids will not even be allowed to ask you that question. That's true. No, I hope that's not.

I hope not. I have a joke, but I do think that on some level, like, when you start to see what they're able to, you know, right now, nine months out from Donald Trump taking power, the the the absolute and real dollars growth uh in ice there the the growth in their capacity to feel they have power and um have no accountability where we will be and the rate of acceleration of these things where we'll be nine months from now uh it's a pretty scary thought but um very much so congratulations uh jared i really think that um uh you're going to do great on ring of fire thank you thank you very excited that type of perspective having gone out onto the streets and seeing this stuff i think uh lends a i mean you know we hear about this but for you to actually be out there

seeing it i think it's a pretty impressive and a good work where can people find that footage on your instagram yeah so um my instagram is jared zisser it's a j-r-r-r-r-d-z-i-s-s-s-s-es-ee are. It's the take with Jared Zisser. That is actually pinned to the very top of my, that one incident I spoke of where they were trying to show a war zone is pinned right on top. It is impressive how they go out there with their dongles. I mean, you do production, but they're out there making a movie every day. They are. Always got. They're making a movie. They're absolutely right. And then any ads you're seeing or commercials that they're promoting to join ICE, that is from the Portland facility. I mean, I'm sure there's a little bit of L.A. in there, a little bit of

Chicago, but most of that is the Portland facility. Wow. All right, Jack. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thanks. All right, folks.

Well, there we go. That is it for the first portion of the show. Where's Emma? Oh, no, I'm going to read. Setting up the shot. I'm going to set up my shot then, too. Like, here we go. little wider is that good matt maybe just keep it in one place so they can grab it okay

well you guys stop moving you guys stop moving you guys stop moving you guys stop moving it felt like we were dancing okay there we go yeah that was fun dancing with sam in a ballroom well this is what we're going to tear the white house down for you're going to get to see me dancing all over the place isn't that going to be fun for everybody let's do a little bit of this okay um that portland footage i want to take a look at i didn't realize that that had been there and that um that's what um murkley's been talking about and i suspect um was also part of his uh 22 hour um holding of the floor in the senate um it's also like you know i mean i've had this conversation with a couple of

people here the conversations i've been having here have been much more politically oriented than um than in past years because i think there is a broader understanding of like you know because generally i'm here i'm talking about legal cases and but everything that's on people's mind right now is um what's going to happen to our legal system a lot of these lawyers uh perceived themselves as the protectors, you know, there's a lot of lawyers here who are, you know, I came up with, you know, 1-8-88 lawyer, but there's also a lot of lawyers here who perceive what they do, and many of them come out of like civil rights litigation, who perceive what they do is protection of democracy.

uh an integral part of democracy our legal system both some of these folks are you know uh criminal defense attorneys as well and uh i was supposed to get ben crump a great civil rights lawyer to come and talk about um uh some of the ice stuff but he had to leave the the conference early but but broadly speaking a lot of these people are talking and a lot of them are saying stuff like um they're projecting out and how bad this can become um and uh you know when you start to hear stories of them creating fake riots uh when you start hearing stories of like people the to the extent there were molotov cocktails they were aimed at the protesters um ice would never do something like that ice wouldn't or maybe they

subcontracted out to somebody you know uh who's got an instagram account or something like that. I mean, these are upstanding individuals. The first Trump term, there was reporting on this during Black Lives Matter. Trevor Aronson did a long report on it in both podcasts and I believe also written form about how there were paid FBI informants trying to stoke violence in 2020 at Black Lives Matter protests. And you think that under Cash Patel's FBI, that those efforts are not being multiplied? Redfond Fallis, the person who was charged with possession of a firearm up at Dakota Access Pipeline, was given that gun by an FBI informant.

Yep. I think, and I think what we're on the cusp of seeing is far less sort of like, you know, I don't think the people who are going to be doing this stuff are going to be registered as FBI informants. like I you know what I mean like I think it's going to be a much broader sort of um set of people who are going to be doing stuff like this and um so I do think and you know we can talk more about this in the fun half and um we'll move in there and um play some clips we got some great clips of people basically telling ice to go F themselves which I think is really important for people to do to the extent that you can, obviously. But I do think that people need to start to project out and, you know, start asking questions

of like, you know, what am I prepared to do to protect my community, to protect myself, protect my family, obviously? Um, and what steps can I take now that, um, we'll do that. They, you know, there's, uh, I think like we're in an era, you know, one thing like with COVID, having going through a once in a lifetime, hopefully, uh, pandemic is that, like, you know, you, you can be, uh, being overprepared is not a bad idea. And I'm not saying like, you know, materially necessarily, but just sort of like thinking about things through.

Are there certain things that you could do now that maybe in six to eight months or 10 months or a year from now might be harder to do? Stuff like that. I mean, I'm not being cagey. I don't necessarily even know what those things are. But I think for each individuals playing through is an important thing. All right. We're going to go to the fun half.

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around but it was uh it was impressive um that the liberachi museum i've done in the all the years well let's we'll go to the fun half uh matt what's So just coffee. Co-op, fair trade coffee, hot chocolate, use the coupon code, a majority to get 10% off. Matt, Left Reckoning. I had a great talk on Left Reckoning with one of my favorite writers, podcasters, Dano Sullivan, who was also on this show talking about his new podcast, which is called The Outfit on the Mafia, which I'm just realizing on the occasion of a bunch of NBA folks getting arrested. Four out of five families are implicated. for gambling, implicated with the mafia. It's a great time to be listening to a podcast about the mafia.

So we talked about Al Capone. We talked about a place called Hot Springs, Arkansas, which was apparently the Las Vegas before Las Vegas. So, Sam, maybe you want to do it, some reporting from down there, too. I may have to go on some special assignment work. Yeah. How far is that?

Hot Springs. It's in the Ozarks. It's far. Oh, I guess, I might not. need a couple of weeks. Yeah. So check that out. It was a really fun conversation.

We also, I also force it into my two favorite topics, Thomas Pinchon and the JFK assassination. Classic episode. All right. Quick break, fun half. Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now.

And I don't think it's going to be the same. as it looks like in six months from now. And I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is three months from now. But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts. Wait a second.

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