The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3611 - Victims of the Shut Down; Mamdani's final Push; Accountability for ICE

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

It's Fun Day Monday on the Majority Report On today's program: U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent tells ABC News that he is a soybean farmer and so he feels the pain of the tariffs as well. Turns out he is just a landlord to $25 million worth of soybean farms. The American Federation of Government Employees is feeling pressure from their members to end the shutdown. In Landover, Maryland furloughed federal workers line up for food assistance in a queue that stretches down the street and around the block. The Trump administration is claiming they do not have authority to fund SNAP amidst the shutdown, which is proven to be a lie. Zohran Mamdani, AOC and Bernie Sanders held a rally in Queens, New York on Sunday Night packing out Forrest Hills Stadium with over 13,000 people. AOC delivers remarks over the immigrants, freeman, and suffragists that built New York and they are the ones that will determine our future. Zohran gives all credit to Bernie Sanders for teaching Zohran the language of democratic Socialism. Emma Vigeland asks Zohran if he believes that a large win in the mayoral race would provide him with leverage with Albany since Hochul is up for reelection in 2026. Hochul speaks at the rally and is drowned out by "Tax the Rich" chants. The next day Hochul claims to have thought the crowd was cheering "Let's Go Bills" In the Fun Half: Another patriot humiliates ICE agents in a beautiful rant after they harassed him at 26 Federal Plaza in New York. Pete Hegseth does not dispute rumors that the Trump Administration is planning on deploying the National Guard in all 50 states in 2026. On Fox News Stephen Miller tells ICE officers that they have federal immunity to do whatever they have to do to perform their duties. Kyrsten Sinema, now a lobbyist for AI, speaks at a planning commission meeting in Chandler, AZ encouraging them to build a data center before the government comes in builds it without their consent. All that and more The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: NUTRAFOL: Get $10 off your first month’s subscription + free shipping at Nutrafol.com when you use promo code TMR10 ZOCDOC: Go to Zocdoc.com/MAJORITY and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor SMALLS:  get 60% off your first order, plus free shipping, when you head to Smalls.com/MAJORITY! SUNSET LAKE:  Head to SunsetLakeCBD.com and use coupon code “Left Is Best” (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order  Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech Check out Matt’s show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon’s show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza’s music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com

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2025 My name is Sam Cedar This is the five-time award-winning majority report We are broadcasting live steps From the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America Downtown Brooklyn, USA

On the program today are now entering just about the fifth week of the government shutdown. Federal workers have now missed their first paycheck. Trump shuts down a fund to maintain SNAP benefits for 42 million Americans. Open enrollment, health insurance starts in four days as premium soar. Head Start will lose funding. for nearly

1 million kids WIC also in danger flights increasingly delayed now we have the American Federation of Government Workers or Federal Workers Union calling for a clean continuing resolution

can the Democrats hold out and what's the point of them making a deal if Trump can just willy-nilly decide not to follow it. Meanwhile, Trump billionaire backer Timothy Mellon gives

$130 million to pay troops, effectively privatizing part of our military. That is a concerning development. That's a dry run. Indiana governor calls special session to gerrymandar seeking two new

Republican congressional seats. Trump again claims a deal with the Chinese to fix all the deals and the trade that he broke. The U.S. docks warships in a ramp-up to possible attack on Venezuela. Javier M.A.'s party wins midterm elections in Argentina in the wake of a $40 billion dollar promised U.S. bailout if his party won. Yeah.

Pritzker in Illinois, establishing an accountability commission on ice. Theoretically, for future prosecution. He said, we'll prosecute you, let's go. That's also, they're talking about that in California as well. Study finds that the MRNA COVID vaccine ended up prolonging the life of cancer patients. More studied to be done on that. Trump restarts some of the student loan forgiveness programs that he shut down earlier. All this and more on today's majority report.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for joining us at the beginning of the week. It is fun day, Monday. And look at Emma. Emma is glowing from her, uh, I heard time last night at the Mamdani, AOC, Bernie, Hokal rally. Did you get to meet, Kathy Hochel? I did not, but she was at the top of my list.

I had to dip a little early. I'm moving tomorrow, so I missed some of the speeches. But I got to talk to Zoran Mamdani again. Still as charming in person as you would anticipate. And it was really nice to be able to see a bunch of different people. The energy was amazing. Also, Forest Hill Stadium might be the best. 14,000 people?

I don't remember the number, but... 13 or 14,000 is my understanding, but we'll play some clips about that later. Brian had the time of his life as well. Yeah, I had some apple cider and tater tots. It was all right. Yeah. All right.

That's a weird combo. Is that what? Not at the same time. I got him tater tots. It's just the free stuff that was coming at. And then another nice person brought us cider. It was a lot of a sense of community there in the live stream. green room area so very fun um all right well we will uh play some clips of that uh later in the

program uh first uh this is so about parsed out there is apparently a deal to have a framework for a deal uh between trump and g uh as opposed to having 100 percent tariffs on everything remember 100 deals in 100 days yes well And this is coming amid, like, you know, the reports. Let's put up the graph of, did you, do we put that graph of the soybeans in there? Just to give you a sense of, like, what's happening with the farmers in this country. So this is from the CSIS, it's a center for strategic and international studies. It's a think tank.

but basically they looked at soybean exports to China and this is the line that you're going to see at the top here is the average from 2020 to 2024 and you'll see that basically the purchases from China and they purchase over 50% of U.S. soybeans happened usually in the summer ahead of happened in September. Well, the purchases happened prior to the harvest season basically. So that's why they've been sounding the alarm for a while. This is when the exports actually are supposed to pick up in October and it's flatlining. That bottom line is 2025 compared to where you see that major spike in a traditional year.

And that's because of the tariffs. In a typical month of September, particularly October and in November and then it starts to decline in December. This is when the harvest happens between 2020 and 2024. the average is approximately $3 billion, somewhere between $2.5 and $3 billion worth of soybean exports to China. And in 2025, we don't have the hard numbers with projection based upon, it is somewhere around $100 million, maybe, which I can't do the number. 30, is it 30 or is it 300 times less? 300 times less, right? It's very difficult because...

Wait, more. What is it? Like, a thousand million is a billion? Is that what it is? I can't do math on the fly. It's a bad situation for soybean farmers. China's basically said, we're not buying anymore. Why would they?

They've gone to alternate markets down in, you know, in South America. And of course, we also are now subsidizing Argentinian beef because we want to Malay to be there to make sure that Scott Besant's hedge funds buddies got their payouts from their investments from Argentina. But don't worry if you're a farmer and you're worried about getting crushed because of how badly Donald Trump has effed up this whole trade deal. Don't worry. Scott Basson understands your pain. I did mean the second term. I know they have met before. The president has also said he does want our farmers to be taken care of. You did mention that. China has been boycotting American soybeans, and American farmers have really suffered. Do you see a real light at the end of the tunnel there?

They may allow soybeans again? Well, Martha, in case you don't know. No, what, I'm actually a soybean farmer, so I have felt this pain, too. And there are a couple of things happening here. One, the Chinese had substantially dropped their purchases to almost zero. So they unfortunately have been using American farmers who are amongst President Trump's biggest supporters. I think he had more than 90% support. And then this was one of the biggest crops.

You always heard the ones you love the most. So it was a perfect storm. But I think we have addressed the farmer's concerns, and I'm not going to get ahead of the president, but I believe when the announcement of the deal with China is made public that our soybean farmers will feel very good about what's going on both for this season and the coming seasons for several. Well, that's funny. But it's done now. It's over at this point. But that's what he says. He says, like, this season and the next season. The next season.

This one might just be a big waste of. It's going to be, it's going to be some type of bailout. Obviously, it's got to be some type of bailout for the farmers. Like, I'm going to fix what I broke. And I had no idea. You know, you've got to hand it to Scott Basson because here he is. He's the Treasury Secretary, but he's also going to get back on to the farm. I know.

He's got to do both. He's got two jobs. Don't be fooled by the suit. He's got a corn cob pipe just right in his pocket. Let's go to, here, look at this headline. This is Rolling Stone. Scott Besant claims he feels soybean farmer's pain. He's worth $500 million. And let's go down to read about his, he's one of these like assault to the earth guys. He's got the dirt under his fingernails. Let's see. he is uh oh here it is um he's a hedge fund a manager who boasts a net worth more than 500 million and who rents 25 million dollars in farmland out to our soybean farmers that's how he is a farmer he's a landlord of farmers oh yeah yep so he feels their pain so my landlord's a podcaster yeah what's that my landlord's a podcaster yes

Our landlord here is a podcaster. I'll also say, in some respects, by providing a podcast, I know that we have doctors who listen to this. Yes. Well, that qualifies me to go operate on somebody at a hospital. Yeah, that's very exciting. If you, and that's all you need to do is rent a, if, let's say you have an extra room in your house and you want to, I don't know, become an electrician you rent it out like

Airbnb or something like that to an electrician and then you become an electrician. Like an osmosis type of thing. That's the way it works. That's the way it works. He really seems like he understands their pain. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He would get along well with the farmers.

All right. We got more to cover in a moment. We're going to go over what we're going to see during the shutdown and where we're at. I don't know. I'm not exactly sure what Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries have been up to. I know they've been very, very busy. Hakeem Jeffries actually endorse Mamdani.

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federal worker union, is calling for a clean CR because we now have hundreds of thousands of federal workers who are left without a paycheck. Now, again, here's the problem. The Democrats could make any type of deal. or make no deal and just punt through a continued resolution. But the problem is, is the Trump administration keeps making cuts and funding things without congressional approval. And because the Republicans don't care and because Mike Johnson doesn't want to get back into session because he's afraid of a discharge petition to force the,

U.S. government to release the Epstein files because the congressional Republicans do not care about their institutional powers. Remember, it is the Congress that has the ability to appropriate funds. And Donald Trump has essentially instituted a line item veto and then sort of the opposite. I can't remember what the term is for it, but he's just deciding we're going to throw funds at this, even though it has not been appropriated by Congress. And so any deal the Democrats make is useless because Trump has already established that he can do what he will do whatever he wants and none of the Republicans in Congress are going to do anything about it.

So really what should happen, remember, the Senate has on multiple occasions already this year nuked the filibuster. They've done it at least three occasions for three. different things. They could do it here and allow the budget to go forward. They don't want to do that because they want to try and blame the Democrats, but they could do that. And frankly, I think it would be good. Get rid of the filibuster. Let's have an actual democracy here. Here's images of federal workers lining up in Maryland for food assistance because they're now doing without

without any paychecks starting today. This is furloughed federal workers lined up in Landover, Maryland. There's no sound to this, but I mean, and it's sped up, obviously, because the line goes

like around the blocks. just to give you a sense of what is impacted here this is one of the things that in addition to hundreds of thousands of furloughed workers there are 42 million or so people who are getting food assistance through the SNAP program on according to the the the snap website i guess it was here uh put this up this was back uh this was what was on the um the USDA's website

I don't know it was like two or three days ago this is number 11 excuse me 10 um right go above it here we have a punch bowl announcing that that that uh that white house officials have determined they do not have the authority to use contingency reserves that's billions of dollars that congress provided for the use when snap funding is inadequate to fund snap benefits okay this is a lie and how do we know it was a lie because a white house has funded all sorts of things that they don't have the authority to do. But B, in fact, there

were contingency funds that were allowable, and we can see this. This is, the USDA deleted this from their plan that was on their website. And I'll

read with the first couple of lines say. OMBs, this is the office of management of budget, general counsel, that being the in-house lawyer, provided a letter to the USDA on May 23rd, 2025, stating that there is a bona fide need to obligate benefits for October the first month of the fiscal year during or prior the month of September, thereby guaranteeing that benefit funds are available for program operations, even in the event of a government shutdown at the beginning of the fiscal year. In addition, congressional intent is evident that SNAP's operations should continue since the program has been provided with multi-year contingency funds that can be used for state administrative expenses to ensure that the state can also continue operations during a federal government shutdown. These multi-year contingency funds are also available to fund participant benefits in the event that elapse occurs in the middle of the fiscal year. So the bottom line is Congress has already set aside funds.

Even Trump's OMB's in-house counsel said that it's perfectly illegal to use these funds. And now the Trump administration has decided to withhold them. Again, a perfect example of the Trump White House using essentially rescission. And you simply can't get it to a deal with somebody. You know, you could say extend the provisions for Medicaid or the ACA subsidies. But the day after you sign that deal, it's not worth the paper it's written on. I mean, and Democrats should run with this, I think. The Argentina bailout and contrasting, oh, we're going to give $20 billion in credit line

to Argentina and prioritize that to make sure that Malay wins, because apparently, I think it was popular info that did a write-up about Besant, Bessant, whatever. Besson. You've thrown me off about it. It's Bessence, I believe. It's Besson. It does make him sound, like, completely out of touch, even though he's just a soybean farmer. A French peasant farmer. Yeah. So, I mean, that's $20 billion in taxpayer money. I think the other $20 billion is just like from investors. But that, it's a hedge fund guy named Rob Citrone, basically who made heavy, heavy bets on the Argentine economy that needs to be bailed out here. And he's fighting for his life. He's not the only one. So instead of helping people and, or tapping into the $6 billion reserve funds so that folks, over 40 million people who rely on SNAP benefits, don't go hungry. This administration is prioritizing bailing out a foreign government that has ties to Trump's billionaire friends.

It is wrapped in a bow in terms of campaign ads, I would imagine. Just to let you know what else we're looking at with the shutdown of the government. Saturday, some early childhood education programs that are a function of head start coming out of Health and Human Services will start to shut down. About 130 programs are set to miss federal funding. That's across 41 states, including and I should say Puerto Rico, serving 59,000 children. Um, head start programming serving about 6,500 children, uh, stopped getting funded after October 1st. WIC for, uh, mothers and infant babies, serves seven million low income mothers and babies, um, will also faces, uh, a complete funding shortfall, unless,

Trump administration taps another $300 million in cash for WIC. We've got LAX shut down for a brief period of time, apparently the other day, because of a lack of air traffic controllers. If you've flown a plane, it's almost like now, par for the course, you spend 30 minutes on the tarmac on both ends of that flight. it's only going to get worse and that's where we're at at this point Trump administration

will not agree to even negotiate because apparently he's told Mike Johnson no negotiations and again at the end of the day what does what is the value of a deal

when they enter enter into it basically saying we don't have to abide by any deal yeah and then i mean we haven't even touched on the expiration of these ACA premiums today um the there's some estimates that show that it's an extension of the ACA subsidies for a year which would prevent you know an increase in premiums of like up to 30 percent and in some states it's even higher than that it's around 24 billion which is very equivalent to the money that Trump just sent willy-nilly to Argentina. It's a question of priorities.

And we know that this administration is prioritizing the billionaire class looting the federal government across this four-year span, regardless of the outcomes, even to like the elections, right? They're calling all these special sessions across the country in red states to add more Republican seats. We have Prop 50 in California, which is really, really important that people in California go out and vote for that. But they're trying to inculcate themselves or basically make themselves immune from democratic outcomes. Yeah, this is part of the becoming the, you know, maintaining a minority rule. We mentioned at the top of the show, Indiana is having a special

session to Jerry Mander. That'll probably be two new seats for Republicans. But yes, we are now entering open enrollment. That starts in about four days, starting November 1st. And people are already starting to get notice of a huge bump in their premiums coupled with a huge decline in their subsidies. And then understand, too, that that will mean X number of people will not get health insurance they will uh maybe pay a small fee in uh an extra tax because they're not insured but what will also happen is you're you're shrinking the risk pool and when you shrink the risk pool that means there are less premiums to cover the generally the same amount of sick people because if people are already sick or feel sick or think they might get sick,

generally they will not drop their health insurance because they know they're going to have to deal with it. And so the relationship between sick people who will need payouts and non-sick people who probably won't, but that's what insurance is for, that proportion becomes smaller and premiums go up for for everybody. which is the whole idea about universal health insurance is that it makes it cheaper because you have distributed the risk among a greater number of people. So expect your health insurance to cost more if you don't already know that it will. That's where we're at at this point. Let's talk about something more positive now.

Sure. You were at a rally last night. I was. Last night, it was, gosh, what was the name for the rally? New York is not for sale, right, right. Which Jeff Stein pointed out, Bernie ran one of his early races in Vermont. The tagline was Burlington is not for sale. Well, that's maybe a good way to transition to talking about it because Zoran Mamdani in his speech gave so much credit to Bernie Sanders about holding the mantle for Democratic social. and charging ahead himself and paving the way for folks like him. I found that to be very moving. I mean, Zoron's been on a real tear with speeches.

Late last week. Yeah, we didn't end up playing it, but we can. We'll play some of that. We have to. Where he talks about Islamophobia and how, you know, what it was like growing up in New York in the shadow of 9-11 and how his aunt was afraid to ride the subway and wearing her hijab. and he got emotional and spoke about how now he sees himself in the light. And I think that that's so important.

And like the 21st century, Islamophobia is so normalized, so bipartisan, so quotidian, across every part of our country. It doesn't matter if you're in a city or if you're in a rural red area. People are hateful towards Muslim people. And Zoran's victory is not just, or well, hopeful victory. is not as a repudiation of many things, including neo-liberalism and status quo Democrats, but also, in my view, Islamophobia and it being weaponized within the context of like the talk about Israel's genocide. Or the Iraq war. It's been used for political purposes by the most powerful evil people in the world.

And it's also been a huge, I mean, Spencer Ackerman really laid this out in his book. I can't remember what the title of that book was. But all of the security theater and real sort of like surveillance increases and he says really brought about this era of Trump. But here is Zoran Mamdani, which clip is this? This is the part I reference where he gives credit to Bernie and this was a great line. And this is sort of like a mashup between the anti- oligarchic oligarchy tour that Sanders and AOC had been on across the country and Mamdani's mayoral campaign. And let's please make some noise for Senator Bernie Sanders.

I stand before you tonight only because the senator dared to stand alone for so long. I speak the language of democratic socialism only because he spoke it first. And when I ran for State Assembly almost six years ago to the day, It was at Bernie's rally in Queens Bridge Park where I led our first canvas. And just like contrast this with the way that liberals within the Democratic Party will kind of eat each other up or try to create all of these distinctions for their own professional ambitions. the solidarity of democratic socialism is immensely important in combating Trump and fascism. I mean, liberalism fails in so many ways, including in like enabling the private sector, which doesn't combat socialism. But it also creates networks of solidarity and like a shared purpose, which is essential for any political movement to have success.

let's play the clip uh let's play number nine and then we'll go to this run on on hokel uh because there's a sort of a a third element to it um that provides a perfect triptych so let's play uh number nine nine uh which is aOC at the same uh rally um incidentally 13 thousand people up in forest and apparently there was huge lines of people who did not get in. Yep. With players. No matter what he's doing,

that house doesn't belong to him, New York. It belongs to us. It belongs to the people of this country. And I want us all to remember and to know that the future, our future, is not determined by a despot in a house built by enslaved people. Our future will be determined not in a house built by slaves but in a city built by freemen, in a city built by unionists

and immigrants and suffragists. The bricks laid by working people past, present, and future, the seamstresses and the unionists who play it, for our rights in blood. This city was built by the Irish escaping famine. Italians fleeing fascism. Jews escaping

Holocaust. Black Americans fleeing slavery and Jim Crow. Latinos seeking a better life. Native people standing for themselves. Asian Americans coming together in Queens. In Brooklyn,

it's on Bronx. In Manhattan in South Nilean. in this country, in a vision to build the freest, toughest, and greatest city on earth. And we will not stop now, New York. It is no surprise. It's crazy. it is wow

people seem excited yeah people seem excited at that rally um let's cut over to the hakeem jeffreys rally that he's got going

do you think that he could actually honestly I mean if he and Chuck Schumer let's say let's just make this a big bill Chuck Schumer Hakeem jeffreys Chris and Jillabran

all together one night, packed night, Anne Cuomo, let's do Ant Cuomo. How many people do you think you would get into that room? If they did it in a place with skyboxes, only the skyboxes would be filled. The entire rest of the stadium would be empty. But the skyboxes would all be up there.

No one would be paying attention to the words. Or maybe just be like having a cocktail, making deals, and nobody in the stands. Yep. Or there would be counter protesters. Maybe, maybe. Counter protesters would like out a number the actual people there. There'd be 200 people in the stands and one by one throughout the night they get up to protest. By the time you're done, they're all been kicked out. What I liked about what AOC said there, she's not running from the multiculturalism of America and connecting that to the working class and who built things. I mean, it's. it's beautiful. And it is what is best about New York and what is best about America. And it's a good way to make that case when the administration sees multiculturalism as a threat. Here is Kathy Hokel. Yeah, we're going to, well, it's really three, isn't it? Yeah, well, maybe we should start with my question. Let's start with Emma's question about Kathy Hockel. And, you know, this came up when we spoke to, Antonio Delgado about his running in this governor race.

And for Mamdani, the toughest, the biggest issue is going to be his ability to get funding for things like free daycare. And really, I don't know how much of his stated agenda, not so much the rent freeze although now i've heard reported that eric adams is stacking that board before he leaves which is going to make it difficult although hokel could get rid of eric adams today incidentally good point she could boot him out uh for being indicted and um because i don't think that indictment has been fully rescinded it's just sort of a conditionally punted um but Zoran Mamdani is going to need the backing of Hockel if he's going to fulfill a lot of his campaign promises.

Yeah. And so it's really important that she was showing up there last night. And it was sort of a late announcement that she would. I didn't know when I asked this question. I was trying to get something in a little bit more substantive. We had limited time with Zoran, but happy that they were able to even give us any time. I don't know why I buttoned one part of my coat. Like, I just feel like my fit did not end up looking its best.

It was cold. I was like the trust is all around. He's looking. I know. I know. I know. I got my, and I have a heavy, like, my glasses are in one pocket. It's dragging it down on the other side.

All right. Let's get past the fashion faux pause. I'm just pissed at myself. All right. Here's the question. Do that. Lastly, we know that there's a gubernatorial election next. year, do you think that that timing

is good for you and the fact that you're going to need Albany to get on board with your budget a little bit, that maybe that creates some sort of pressure in that situation? I think the thing I'm thinking of much more than an election is the budget season and I'm looking forward to delivering on our affordability agenda. All right. Well, thanks so much,

Zoran. Appreciate your time today. Thank you. Thank you so much. There you go. So he sort of, I mean, he just said that's an important issue, essentially, to you. And then we walk on... I like also, House smiley he is makes you as smiley like you could barely get the you both had that same quality of almost like laughing during the question yeah yeah it's very difficult he's extremely charming

and also i agree with him so i'm not like trying to be you know miss reporter there but it was very very cool to get to talk to him and then like 15 minutes after this we look on our phones and it's like oh hokel's showing up so that's why he didn't want to answer that question she may have been within a earshot of that question exactly And then she ended up giving a speech, but as she comes out, it's not like she received the warmest welcome. And throughout her speech, there was a chant from the crowd. Maybe you can figure out what it is. This is at the back of the stadium, essentially.

And it had not been filled yet. I mean, they came on later. This was hours before. It was packed towards the end. But... I'll pause it. I don't know if you can hear what they're saying. They're saying tax the rich.

Yep. In the middle of her speech. They're cheering tax the rich to Governor Hockel. And behind her, there's giant banner that reads universal child care frees the rent and making buses fast and free. Good. I can hear you. I can hear you.

But here's my friends. You want to see Zoria or not? Listen, I got one plea for you. I love. I love to see this energy and this passion. And for those of you who've not been involved in the voting or even campaigns before, I am so excited about what is going on here. But I need to do something.

All right. One more thing. This is about this November's election. But take that energy, that passion, and take it into 26th so that we can take back. the House of Representatives, take the Senate, and take back our country. With your help, we will. Elects, we take back America. Thank you, Queens.

Thank you, New York. God love you, guys. So there we go. We get them together. I mean, I would imagine that Zoron is... I mean, this is... First of all, it's such a great move by Zoron, because like, she was like, oh, maybe I can get off the stage. I'm going to come over, like, I'm a champion.

Hey, we'll link us together. Because apparently, Elise Staphanik, who's going to run against her has been like Hockel, Hockel at Zoron, you know, communists, communist, basically tweeting. They, they Republicans think it's a liability. And Hockel probably does, too, because she's of an old school mindset. It's not. It's not. But, you know, we're Doggato's hopeful too.

I think she got the idea from. that rally like oh boy uh i would i don't have legions of people like this i could not fill a you know uh stewards uh essentially uh with people who is excited about me i i think it's quite possible there is not a single individual in the entire state who is as excited as uh as those 14 000 were about Mamdani, you can't find one person who has that same level of excitement about Kathy Hocal. Right.

And what she said was very interesting there. She didn't say much, but it was like all the energy you have here, I love to see you. Please come show up for me. All the people there, they've been voting for people like you for a long time, Kathy. They just aren't inspired

by it. Well, that's why they chant tax the riches her, because the level of education also that he has brought to the voting population is so important. People know that if he wants to do his free bus program and he wants to raise the corporate tax rate in New York City, that he needs Kathy Hochle's buy-in. He needs the governor. And he's putting pressure on her through people power to try to acquiesce there, even in a situation where she wouldn't want to be taxed on the rich like that. I mean, just having her there both that like signals like, okay, he's within the

mainstream of the Democratic Party, but I'm quite convinced that ultimately the real value of having her there is having her look at 15,000 people. I mean, it's possibly one of the biggest crowd she's ever been in her entire career as a politician. I would not be surprised if that wasn't the biggest crowd she's ever spoken to. Unless she threw out a first pitch or something. Exactly. But in terms of addressing them, I honestly don't know where it would be. Maybe the Democratic State Convention, but I doubt that you would have people and certainly...

Oh, the DNC. She didn't speak at the DNC. Oh, she did? Remember, it was horrible. But I think, like, in the DNC, when you speak, I mean, I've been in these conventions. Yeah. 10% of the people who are actually paying attention to what you're saying.

And the rest are just having conversations with themselves, you know, and if they were eating, if they were eating a chicken dinner, it would be, you know, client, client, client, client. all through it. I don't think she has ever been in a situation where there are 14,000 people looking exactly at her with that level of energy. And that, to me, it seems like, is going to stay imprinted in her mind. When she thinks of Mamdani and when she thinks of saying no to Mom Donnie, that image is going to come up again. And here she is. But this is, but she, but she ruins it here. This came out this

morning. Like, girlfriend. She specifically said, I hear you. And apparently, she needs a hearing aid. She needs a hearing aid. Well, this is a like some type of a Q&A, I guess, in Albany.

I thought they were saying, let's go bills. I wasn't sure. When you're up there, I heard some noise. I heard a lot of tears. But later on, it became clear to me that there is a, I know this passion for that. I went in there as the leader of the Democratic Party whose job it is to unify and unify behind the Democratic nominee.

I love the energy out there. I told them that. And I want to do is bottle all that up. You know, use it in a few days. But take that to Long Island in the Hudson Valley and make... Oh, shut up about Long Island. Dude, when I taught preschool, when a kid with... She's talking to, like, how I had to talk to a kid who bit somebody,

I'm like, I love this energy, but if we could just redirect it to something that's going to be more beneficial to it. You thought the crowd in Queens was chanting, let's go bills? I know the Jets and Giants are pathetic, but that's not, that's a bridge too far. She has the energy of like a steakhouse server that that's to tell you, like at Smith and Wollenski, there's these New York stakeholders. And it's like, oh, sorry, we don't have that rub today or something. That is amazing.

That hadn't even occurred to me. Like, wait a second. There's at least two teams ahead of the bills that you would get in Queens. She's a Buffalo. It's just her thing because they technically play in New Jersey and she's from Buffalo. So she's whatever. But it's still a dumb thing to say, especially because you said at the rally, I hear you. Both the Jets and the Giants play in the Middlelands.

Okay. No, I understand. Okay. Technically. So like the bills play five hours north of where she was. Yes. Like, it's just as likely that people are going, let's go, Pat. Let's go Pat.

Yes. Yep. Yeah. So, I mean, why say I hear you and then say I thought that they were chanting, let's go bills? It's just incoherent. But tax the rich. I knew there's an appetite for that. What did you say?

I think you're saying, like, I know there's an appetite for that. Stop telling me. I'm trying to get you to out to the midterm. No, appetite for that. Like, you mean taxing the rich? Yeah. She can't even say it. I know.

That's a problem. Why couldn't you have gotten away with, like, I thought they were saying, let's go Jets? Yeah. Why couldn't you have said that? Because she's a Bills fan. It's just her stupid kind of, it's hokey, hoax. She's not that nimble. Yeah.

Half-witted folksy nonsense. Yep. That's crazy. Max, the Bailey's, let's go, MetLife, turf. Oh, God. notoriously injury-causing turf there. People are coming up with like Jackson Fartara says, oh, wait, I'm sorry, Verbonia says,

I thought they were chanting snacks and chips, snacks and chips. Okay, you're saying Jackson Fart era, that's not that funny, but appreciate, you know. Why did you spot you that? Because Sam just said Jackson Fartara, and I had to. I had to acknowledge it. Let's play. Let's just wrap this Zoron stuff out, but let's play.

He did this on Friday afternoon. I was coming back on a plane. And he posted this to his social media. He gave a speech. it was interesting um you know i mean i mean this is something that you you you see these type of things that were like a couple of days out from an election uh they will happen um no not this one where's the other speech the one outside yeah that was no that was from just a couple of days ago yeah oh we don't have that one

No. This is a, he did a version of the speech outside where he kind of broke down. Yeah. Yeah, it was actually a really moving speech. Well, maybe we'll play, we can play it in the, in the fun half. In the fun half. It's basically a riff on this speech, but live? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. We'll do that in the fun half. And then we'll save number six then too. all right let's go uh wow it's one o'clock let's do you want to talk about ice really quickly before we go um do we have that uh clip of shoot where's uh ice down at the back of the end darn it 20 23 24 25 all right let's just do 23 and then uh we'll talk more but uh we have both now in californ California and in Illinois, well, in California, they're talking about arresting any ice thugs that break California law.

I know that the Attorney General in Illinois, I don't know if you played this at the end of last week. Do we put the, do we have that clip? I don't think we do. Maybe we don't. The Attorney General from Illinois was talking about tampering with license plates. Because a lot of these ICE goons, what they do is they take the license place off their cars and their vehicles. So they're unidentified. And that is against state law in Illinois. And the Illinois Attorney General has said, we are going to prosecute that. And he's asked people to record and take photos of any cars that they see where the license plates are in any way obscured or not a non-existent and hand that in.

It is very difficult for local officials to arrest federal agents. This is from a University of Wisconsin law school, explainer, can states prosecute federal officials? This is from July of 2025. There's a couple of key paragraphs, but I'll read a couple of them for you. Accordingly, federal courts have long said that federal officials are insulated from state prosecutions if one, the federal official was doing something authorized by federal law. And two, the official's actions were, quote, necessary and proper in fulfilling their duties. for example and and that's obviously going to be one of the key aspects about this um again it's important that it's and as opposed to or so both of these requirements are necessary uh but necessary

and proper in fulfilling their their uh federal duties this is where ice has gone over things like do you need to hide your license plate right no um do you know um do you know need to tackle people who are playing, you know, the theme song from Star Wars. I think that's a, you've got a good argument, no. But the case that was cited here in terms of the foundational case on the supremacy clause, which of course is that federal law, Trump's state law, no pun intended, in Neagle, a U.S. Marshal assigned to protect a U.S. Supreme Court justice shot and killed an attacker in California. charged the marshal with murder but the u.s supreme court concluded that the marshal could not be

prosecuted because he was carrying out his official duties and was justified in killing the attacker as part of those duties there's another paragraph in there um the u.s law allows federal officials to move criminal prosecutions that are brought against them from state to federal court if the case relates to the official's employment and the officer has a colorable federal offense. That means that if it's not, it's not enough for the defendant to be a federal officer to shift the case to federal court, the defendant must also offer some plausible defense based on federal law. So the issue is, can you move your state case to federal court, which is going to be more amenable to you, particularly, you know,

because you're a federal official. The federal officials asserted federal defense will be supremacy clause immunity discussed in the other section. Whether or not the immunity defense ultimately succeeds the defendant's invocation of that immunity will usually be sufficient to get the case into federal court. But not always. It needs, again, to be colorable, which is plausible or reasonable that they were doing their federal duties.

So there's just not as much ability for the state or the city to prosecute these people as we would like, but which is why it's so important for people to be videotaping because, again, if they do something with their license plates, at least in Illinois, that's illegal. If they do stuff that's outside of their duties, which is supposedly just dealing with. immigrants. Yeah. And also to your point on taking footage, Letitia James is rolling out, and this happened last week, a portal where you can upload that footage to her office. So if you are in New York and you have footage like that, you could help basically the state try to prosecute some of these folks. Let's do, let's play one clip now and then we'll play some more in a bit. But this, yeah, 26 fun half.

Let's do, oh, here, let's do 25. I mean, this is just crazy. In a Chicago neighborhood, apparently this happened like three times over the past couple of days. In different Chicago neighborhoods, they just come in. They get the whistles. they get people protesting them, and then they decide tear gas, tear gas the neighborhood. And you can see, like, it happens so quickly. You can see people walking by who are like people walking their dogs, people walking their kids.

Like, it's just, that's how quickly these go to the tear gas. Tier gas at Old Irving Park right now, our own neighborhood, scaring our children. Unbelievable. Never thought this would happen in my neighborhood. Guys, and his PJs walking by. Scaring our children to death, thinking that this is a cool thing to do. Again, just covering all their trucks. Go to the next one.

And God bless this guy. It just gets up with his PJs. You're nowhere near Canada. Bus you. How much of that pay? you. How much are you paid you, cowards? You do, you fucking, you the shit. Get it that way.

Violating federal court orders right now. You're not wanted in our city. You're not wanted in our neighborhood. Get the fuck out of here! Get out of here, fucking that. Trust you! Tell your face. Tell your face. It's a person.

All the home. Show you. Get the fuck out of here. Get your fucking mask up. Cowards! You're a fucking coward. You're a fucking coward. Go get a real job, man.

Go get a real job. Hell yeah. I don't understand how you can think this way, man. You're scaring the children. Like, it's just, this is so, you got just like, peaceful neighborhood, people just walking around. It's, I mean, it's, it looks like one of these are sort of like, you know, day after movies or something are like, you know, where there's some type of like violence, yeah, apocalyptic plague that is spread around because these guys are so, it's ridiculous. And I will have to say this, growing up and, you know, outside of Boston and spending at least half my life in New York, I've been a little dismissive of Chicago.

I'm not going to lie. I still remember the Barry the Bears T-shirts I bought in 1986. How did that work out? Didn't go out well because I was like, I'm going to save them until after the game. They'll be worth even more. See, that's the power of the jinx. And, well, it was also just like, I think like I was a little. too aspirational with the Patriots in that instance. But the amount of respect I have now for the people

of Chicago, the way they have come out just time and time again and have been refused to be intimidated by these thugs. I really, really, I mean, they have been a model for the rest of the country. I visited it for the first time this summer for the DSA convention. It is gorgeous. So I'm sold on Chicago, for sure. But when they said in that, you're nowhere near Canada, that's pretty important because technically this kind of enforcement is supposed to only be 100 air miles from the border of this country. And that does impact in terms of people who are in the 100-mile border zone. That is around two-thirds of the population. But I don't necessarily know how far. No, that includes Chicago because it's around the waterways because of the great lakes.

Oh, there you go. Okay. So when he said you're nowhere near Chicago, that was, that was, I mean, nowhere near Canada, that's true, but it's still, they can get around it, I guess. You can get 100 miles, ice can go 100 miles from the border. I mean, so that's pretty far. And, I mean, that covers a huge swath of the country at that point. But again, like, if you look at this map here, this is, it always goes around the Great Lakes. It doesn't go above them.

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I want to see if they've, I don't think they've, still there. Can't wait for people not to know what that means. I saw a great headline that said, Mark Marin Pioneers not having a podcast. Speaking of podcasts Left Reckoning David Griscom and I got into a New York Times editorial

talking about how centrism actually works It has a funny way of defining centrism Which includes They said moderates Yeah moderates, the moderates The moderates, but that also apparently has AOC as more moderate than Richie Torres

By certain metrics that they type of use The metrics that they use for that are um was donations right or what what was it oh yeah there was a few different types of things but yeah that was so first of all i read that piece and i know about the 18th district that is uh the one up in duchess county and pat ryan up there i listened to a lot of uh media from up there and they claimed that he ran the the things that they claimed he ran on he absolutely did not run on he ran on protecting social security that was the biggest set of ads and a woman's right to choose and now his immigration stuff i'm not a big fan of um but his he has the economic

populism that when aOC came on she's specifically excited working with ryan right disagreeing with him on some stuff but working with him on the economic populism the the two step they're all trying to do it seems to me is don't be so rigid about social issues without even mentioning the fact that like wait a second the idea is that you have

economic populists who are going after the power centers and you may have to cut them some slack on some of the social issues that are more local specific to where they're coming from not just blanket uh allow them to move off of a woman's right to choose or something like that

and then sort of and not change their and not change their economy about the genocide or taxing the rich that's it so yeah clear yeah that it is a um a cover for um for moneyed interest politics and they can't seem to figure out how to legit legitimately sell that anymore it's all the people that like near times represents all the now saying it's economic populism you see to do that they were all the people that were saying well i'm actually a socially liberal fiscally conservative uh for the last 15 years and which is actually why everyone hates liberals uh people are saying we'll go to the fun half of people are saying that the app is um uh falling apart today in terms of sound um we've heard you it's not just you i think it's a bunch people and people are saying they can't get a consistent stream so it is not you it is us um we're on that we'll text the uh the proper authorities going to take quick break head into the fun half see you there left is best Jamie and I may have a disagreement yeah you can't just say whatever you want about

people just because you're rich. I have an absolute right to mock them on YouTube. He's up their buggy whipping like he's the boss. I am not your employer. You know, I'm tired of the negativity. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. You're nervous. You're a little bit upset, you're riled up. Yeah, maybe you should

rethink your defense of that, you fucking idiots. We're just going to get rid of you. All right. But dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. You want to smoke this joint? Yes. Do you feel like you are a dinosaur.

It's a good shit. Exactly. I'm happy now. It's a win, win, win. It's a win, win, win. Uh, hell yeah. Now listen to me. Two, three, four, five times, eight, four, seven, nine oh, six, five oh, one, four, five, seven, two, thirty-eight, 56, twenty-seven, one-half, five-eighths, three point nine billion. Wow. He's the ultimate math, nerd. Don't you see? Why don't you get a real job instead of steering vitriol and hatred You left wing limbaugh. Everybody's taking their dumb juice today.

Come on, Sammy. Dance, dance, dance. Oh, grand Paul. I had my first post-coital scene with a woman. I'm hoping to have more moves to my repertoire. All I have is the dip in the swirl. Fine, we can double-diff. Yes, this is a perfect moment.

No. Wait, what? You make under a million dollars a year? You're scum. You're not saying. Excuse me? Fuck you. You fucking liberal elite.

I think you belong in jail. Thank you for saying that, Sam. You're a horrible, despicable person. All right. Going to take quick break. I want to take a moment to talk to some of the libertarians out there. Take whatever vehicle you want to drive to the library. What you're talking about is jibber japs.

Classic. I'm feeling more chill already. Good. Donald Trump can kiss all of our asses. Hey, Sam, hey, Andy, are you guys ready to do some evil? Hitler was such an idiot. You think I might be a Nazi. Agreed.

No. Death to America. Do. Yes. Wow. Wow, that's weird. No way. Unbelievable.

This guy's got a really good hook. Throw her hands. But Sam, I gotta get off. No worries. I want to just flesh this out a little bit. I mean, look, it's a free speech issue if you don't like me. Hey, hey, hey, hey, shut up. Thank you for calling into the majority report.

Sam will be with you shortly.