The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3618 - Iran Sets Ceasefire Terms & Israel Lashes Out w/ Séamus Malekafzali, Effie Phillips-Staley

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

It's Hump Day on The Majority Report   On today's show:   Donald Trump announces a two-week ceasefire with Iran but that hasn't stopped Israel from unleashing hell in Lebanon. As a result of Israel refusing to abide the conditions of the agreed upon 10-point peace plan, Iran has said the Strait of Hormuz will remain closed.   Freelance Journalist and co-host of the Turbulence podcast, Seamus Malekafzali joins Emma for a conversation about the wars in Iran and Lebanon.   Effie Phillips-Staley, candidate in the Democratic primary running to challenge scumbag Rep. Mike Lawler in New York's 17th Congressional district.   In the Fun Half:   Emma and Matt discuss the criticism of AOC from the left.   Graham Platner calls for Congress to hold Supreme Court justices to the same standard as federal judges which would in result lead to the impeachment of at least two justice - Clarence Thomes and Sam Alito.   Harry Enten breaks down the results of last night's special elections and explains why they signal promising prospects for Democrats to retake the House.   Abdul El-Sayed hosts two rallies in Michigan with Rep. Summer Lee and Hasan Piker that are packed to the gills, standing room only.   Mark Levin is not happy about the ceasefire and pleads directly to Trump on air to put Iran in a box and keep a boot on their neck.   The New York Times publishes an in-depth article about the behind-the-scenes lead up to the war on Iran.   all that and more   To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: TRUST & WILL: Get 20% off trustandwill.com/MAJORITY FAST GROWING TREES: Get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland.com/MAJORITY. SUNSET LAKE: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com  Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com

You are listening to a free version of the Majority Report. Support this show at join the Majority Report.com and get an extra hour of content daily. The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. It is Wednesday, April 8th, 2026. My name is Emma Vigeland in for Sam Cedar, and this is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Seamus Malafaxali will be back with us to discuss Iran's humiliating the U.S. with these temporary ceasefire terms, welcomely. and Israel immediately trying to undercut it by bombing Lebanon

and later in the show Effie Phillips-Staley candidate running in the Democratic primary for New York's 17th congressional district will be with us. Also on the program, Iran brings Trump to heal after he threatened genocide against their entire country, forcing the U.S. to accept a two-week ceasefire on their terms. furious, the Israelis pummeled Lebanon, including Beirut, without any warning in an effort to undermine the deal. In the West Bank, Israeli soldiers beat a 68-year-old Palestinian woman to death during a raid on her home. The White House is scaling back its request for more supplemental funding for its criminal war in Iran, $100 billion, was the latest.

It's more focused on the Pentagon slush fund in the $1.5 trillion budget. Over 50 Democrats have joined a push to invoke the 25th Amendment over Trump's threats to wipe out Iran as a civilization. Relatedly, a Pew poll finds that 60% of U.S. adults have an unfavorable view of Israel. It's up by 20 points since 2022. Where are all the popularists? Maddie Glacius. Big wins for Democrats in Wisconsin, including the state Supreme Court, ensuring liberal control through 2030. In Marjorie Taylor Green's old district in Georgia, the Democrat overperformed by 25 points. Ice agents shot a man, Carlos Ivan Mendoza Hernandez, in Northern California this week.

he survived but was hospitalized. Another weaponization of a vehicle claim by ICE. A federal appeals court allows Iowa to enforce an LGBTQ book ban in public schools. And lastly, Bill Gates will testify before the House Oversight Committee in the weeks to come as a part of their Epstein hearings. I'm going to enjoy that. This is the bipartisan show. ship I'm in favor of.

I'm just a farmer. Oh, my God. Everybody check out Kyle Dunnigan's video on this. All this and more on today's majority report. Kyle Dunnigan has a great bit on his Instagram where he's superimposed Bill Gates

his face onto himself and spoke as Kermit the Frog. I don't want to give too much away, but it's disturbing and hilarious. What may be disturbing some of our live viewers is that the set looks a little bit different today because Brian got on his hands and knees

and made the lighting a little bit better, right? Like you see the panels, the blue on the bottom. Now maybe I will look similar to Sam color-wise when he gets back because he has those panels filled out on the bottom too. I'm so excited. I was going to say, I was going to say, we should not say anything if anybody notices,

but Emma is so happy. to have the improvement. I'm one improvement. I know, just literally anything. Just anything. Scratch and a claw. We're a little late today because the camera was freezing again. Again.

Emma's literally sitting on a milk crate. And I go, yeah, I go, like, we're in a bar. I said to Brian, I don't want to be a diva, but I just want the camera to work on the podcast I work on, because we're not like that small. We're kind of a large show. Yes. Which is a little bit against the core brand proposition of not having anything work.

So, yeah, 480P resolution and 15 frames per second. Sometimes that's how you start the show. Not even when a guest enters and overloads the Wi-Fi. It's just how it looks. Lady Gaga over here wants her camera to work. Bring me. I'll give you the green M&Ms too. Right, right, right.

I want you to sort all of my pens here after the show, Brian. No eye contact. Don't look at me. We're a little delirious, but we're also relieved to a degree. I mean, Iran and got Trump to brought Trump to heal. I mean, there's no other way to describe these terms that the United States has agreed to, in principle, just to back up for a second. Iran has been laying out these kind of more maximalist conditions for an end to the war, a permanent one for a while. And we'll get to those conditions in a second,

but that's essentially the framework of this two-week temporary ceasefire that Trump bent the need to. Iran has said that it will open the straight during this period as long as they negotiate along those terms. But one of the terms included Lebanon and Israel, to sabotage this was just pummeling Lebanon last night. But Trump box himself in. He set a deadline for a surrender. Or he said he would end Iranian civilization, which was interpreted as a threat to commit genocide

and kill millions and millions of people in the country of over 90 million people. He's calling it Bridge and Power Plant Day. Remember Infrastructure Week for America? Right. Instead we're blowing up, we're spending money that could be building bridges here to blow up bridges in Iran. That's what the American people want, baby. America first, baby. Thank you, Mr. Trump.

And then that prompted calls for the 25th Amendment from people like Marjorie Taylor Green on the outside. Looks like Megan Kelly kind of too. I mean, almost. And, uh, and 50 Democrats should be literally 100% of them. Godheimer's like, well, I mainly want him to, to finish the job. Yeah. Can you explain it? a bit better to me, Mr. President.

But Trump caved. Iran was strengthened. And this, like, the United States in that region, in the Persian Gulf, has kind of created this world order based on the fact that, like, hey, we're going to secure this. We're going to secure the straight. We will be the global enforcer of kind of energy trade.

And as Robert Pate wrote about in the New York Times a few days ago, this is an inevitable, this inevitably means that this arrangement in the Gulf is going to change the world order going forward. It has emboldened Iran in ways that we can't even, I think, kind of fully contemplate right now. But this was Trump's truth social last night, where just hours after he, again, threatened to either to nuke, to commit genocide an act of mass murder in Iran. He truthed. Based on

conversations with Prime Minister Shabashirif and Field Marshal Asim Miner of Pakistan, wherein they requested I hold off on the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the complete

immediate and safe reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. I agreed. Which was open before this conference. Exactly. Which I caused, the closure that I caused, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This would be a double-sided ceasefire. The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all military objectives and are very far along with a definitive agreement concerning long-term peace with Iran

and peace in the Middle East. We received a 10-point proposal from Iran and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate, which is fascinating because we should just like whatever, blah, blah, blah, pull up these terms. The Americans had a 15-point list of demands that that's not the basis of these negotiations. Number one, stop saying death to America. Yes. Can you be nicer, please?

These are the terms that apparently this is what they're discussing. The 10-point plan. One, guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again. Two, permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire. Do you hear that Israel? Yes, this is because Israel, the ceasefires that have been negotiated in Gaza and Lebanon have been shown to be a complete, completely false, just lies. Well, and like the reason that Israel would never want a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, for instance,

is because Zionists actually do see that as a situation they want to solve through force. promising never to reopen and it's the exact same thing with this Iran stuff there's not just Israel but a huge part of our you know war hawk Pentagon type folks they want war with Iran because otherwise why are we really giving them so much money because there's that tweets like Iran's about to find out why America or the Houthis are about to find out why Americans don't have universal health care and the truth is we don't have universal health care but we also don't have the power that they suggest we're getting when we give

such an ungodly amount of money to this war machine every year. Yeah. Critically on this, if we could just put this back up, number three here, the end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon, that's already been violated.

It was violated immediately by Israel as an effort to sabotage this, so we're still, and Trump gave us an update on his thinking about this this morning, but we'll just get through these other kind of demands, lifting all of U.S. sanctions on Iran, and end to all

regional fighting against Iranian allies, which like, that means Hezbollah as well. This is not, Israel is not going to agree to this. Six, Iran would reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Seven, Iran would impose a $2 million fee per ship transiting Hormuz. Eight, Iran would split these fees with Oman. Iran would establish rules for safe passes through Hormuz. Iran would use Ramos fees for reconstruction instead of reparation. So, It is reparations. They just are like, okay, how do we make this slightly less humiliating? Yes, exactly. Yeah, we can't say we're getting reparations. Right. But if we could just three and five, an end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and an end to regional fighting against Iranian allies. This is the one silver lining that could potentially come out of this absolute horror show is that if Trump, is desperate to get out of this and is really looking for an off-ramp and he sees the polls.

And Lebanon remains a part of Iran's terms. This could cause a schism in the relationship with Israel and the United States. But the problem is, and we'll probably talk about this in the fun half, this long, extensive New York Times piece about how Netanyahu manipulated him into this war is that Trump is too weak, stupid, and he's just constitutionally incapable. of having focus and long-term thinking, I don't know if that silver lining will actualize. That would be ideal if Trump holds the line and says, okay, this maximalist demand of forcing a ceasefire in Lebanon from Iran,

which really is like they're feeling themselves if they're making this kind of case on behalf of Hezbollah and Lebanon. If they hold on this front and Trump wants this so badly, does that mean that the Israelis go rogue? They already have. It's time for everyone to understand that's what will be happening to if that is in case the time. We have time for blaming Hezbollah or blaming this or that or Iran secretly behind the scenes doing dastly stuff. If this ceasefire doesn't hold, it's because Israel. Yes.

And Israel struck Lebanon 100 times in under 10 days. minutes and they didn't give any warning, including when they bomb residential buildings, which they typically, they've typically been doing in their repeated violations of this ceasefire in Lebanon. But this morning, we have an update. If we could go to the tear sheet here for, Trump gave a quote to PBS that contradicts, planks three and five of the terms he says he agreed to. the Elizabeth Landers of PBS asked Trump about Lebanon still being hit and if he'd seen that Trump's response yeah they were not included in the deal I asked why not and if they should have been Trump because of Hezbollah they were not included in the deal that'll get taken care of too

it's all right I asked and you're okay with the Israelis continuing to hit them Trump it's a part of the deal everyone knows that there's a separate skirmish okay you got to talk faster. I tried to ask if he regretted that true social post about wiping out a civilization and know that there was a huge pushback to that statement from Democrats. Then he hung up. You got to talk. You got to talk faster. Two times speed, please. I've got an hour of clock T off. And by that you mean sitting on the toilet and straining. Has anyone seen him golfing recently? I'm not sure. Like that might be why he needs to feel. anything by bombing people and killing a bunch of little girls. It's because he doesn't he doesn't

have his outlet, which is golf. Too sick, old and disgusting. So that is completely contradicting what the terms he said he agreed to included. And just to finish this off here, he's probably not in the best mood because we know that this is his favorite show, Fox and Friends. It's a warm blanket for him. This is how they responded to the terms that were agreed to. But I will say that the president's demands, we have not reached any of those objectives. I have full confidence that the president is going to find some way to make this happen. But he said that we want to dismantle all major nuclear facilities.

That has not happened. The end of uranium enrichment on the soil, they're still arranging. The transfer of the rich. Iranian stockpails out of Iran. That hasn't happened to acceptance of intrusive international inspections. They're still not willing to do that. And they have not suspended their ballistic missiles program.

They're still firing them off to stop the production of the long-grain missiles. That's just a few of them on the president's proposal. The question is, is the president using this two weeks to give our soldiers a break, a rest to see if we can get this ultimately done? we'll see but I will see so you know why he's stammering there we were kind of talking off air is he nervous

yeah I think he's nervous nervous to say anything critical he knows Trump's watching I mean this is really the deep state folks the types of thing that keep drying us into these like cataclysmic wars

obviously Trump has a lot it will go down you know he'll die as extreme responsible for this sham in horror that got like a bunch of people killed but there is a gravity towards war in this country that exists outside of Trump and it's this sort of news

organization it's going to be all these folks that even in you know like yesterday that it was at Gottheimer talking about you know we got we have objectives in the region no you have objectives in the region yeah my objective is not to do all this thing I don't care about it like Iran I want health care here I want to stop medical debt

yeah but rent to be affordable that I wish that they would just shut the hell up, but the problem is that Fox News wants this war to continue. Exactly right. So, um, I, God, I wish that we could just like have some sort of national day of unity where we all agree to lie publicly about that Trump actually won this thing. Great job, sir. And so we could just get us out of this. Oslo, you know what to do. Yes, but, FedEx that crap. Fed like new

got a special new one National P, Nobel Peace Prize stat we can reconvene it we could do two in a year it's fine And the parade? Oh,

it's actually a special one Right It's even better than the normal one I do every year Gosh, does that FIFA Peace Prize mean nothing to you?

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Thank you. So my first burning question here, is this temporary two-week ceasefire just another way for the U.S. and Israel to deceive Iran? I think it is. I had immediate deep suspicions once I heard that Trump was considering the 10 points. that Iran was providing as the basis of negotiations, mainly because they were so far from what America had been proposing total capitulation in so many words. And that is looking like that is the case. It's deception. Something that just happened a few minutes before we started recording was Trump had said

that the 10-point proposal that is being circulated into the media is not what they agreed to. Israel suddenly said that Lebanon was not part of the ceasefire agreement, despite the fact that Pakistan, who had been mediating this and the Iranian Supreme National Security Council said that Lebanon was a part of it. And now they've launched the biggest attack since the war began, possibly the biggest attack since the invasion of Lebanon back in the 1980s. Israel has been launching drones against Iran. There was an attack on an oil refinery in the south. there is no indication that the C-Spire was actually, that was agreed to is actually going to happen. Let's bring back to, and then we can talk about it. I'm not hearing any feedback. Okay.

All right. Yeah. Just making sure audio sounds good. Let's bring up the points that you're speaking about here. We just went over this in the opening segment. But points three and five in this peace plan is what were references Lebanon here. This is one of the demands from the Iranians that Trump said was the framework that has already been broken. An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon, it was the largest barrage of attacks that we've seen in quite a while.

And an end to regional fighting against Iranian allies would include Hezbollah, obviously. And Israel is not going to agree to that. So, and then Trump this morning said Lebanon is not included, even though this is the framework that he just said that he agreed to. Yeah, no, I'm kind of, when people were declaring, you know, total overwhelming victory for Iran and this regard that they had been able to make America agree to all these things, and I wanted to maybe put the brakes on that because every single time America has negotiated, it has been to deceive the Iranians in every single respect. I mean, just as a very, very specific thing. Vance had been proposed as a supposedly more trustworthy negotiated to come to these talks in Osamaabad. But then suddenly Trump has said, well, actually, we might not be able to send Vance

because there's concerns about his safety. So we're going to send Whitkoff and Kushner again. Those two people who had lied to Iran and lied so continuously that the Iranians said they would never trust those two specific people ever again. Don't send them. No, they were always going to say, well, actually, we're going to agree. to that. But then when it came to actually establishing facts on the ground, they were never going to agree to that. They needed the time to regroup. They needed the time to potentially try to

replenish something, reposition radar systems, things that were destroyed by Iran. And they were hoping that the two weeks that would be part of the ceasefire would allow them to do that. And then they could move into restarting the war on more preferable terms. What I think is good, is that Iran appears to be sticking to what they want in that maintaining the linking of the fronts. Apparently, according to the Wall Street Journal, they have already moved to halt the opening of the street of war moves because of those strikes in Lebanon. Seamus, could I just ask you to explain that, the fronts? What do you mean by that?

By the fronts, I mean that in those negotiations, the bombardment of Lebanon, the bombardment of Iraq by the United States, and the. potential bombardment of Yemen were all supposed to be halted, including Gaza, though that was somewhat left unsaid, all resistance fronts. That was the terminology that was being used. So Lebanon was obviously included in that. Iraq was included in that. There don't seem to be any strikes happening in Yemen or Iraq, at least for now. But Lebanon was the primary other front that Iran was considering, mainly because of the role that Hezbollah was playing in Iran's defense by diverting

Israeli assets elsewhere. Let's pull up six guys. I had seen you tweet about this, Seamus. Just to get your response here to Senator Chris Murphy and his reaction, there have

been Democrats that have spoken about how this war is illegal, but there have the criticism have been a bit muted, I guess, on the substance in many ways. And Murphy is, shockingly, one of our better senators, despite the way that he reacts here. This is just an indictment on the state of the United States Senate, frankly. But how he reacts about how he's criticizing the terms here on CNN and isn't championing the fact that there needs to be some sort of like cessation in

still these, I guess he'll touch on it. But the fact that he's saying that there's the strategic objectives failing should be the top story here is immensely concerning to me. But here he is yesterday reacting to this news with Aaron Burnett. We stand out here. One, the safe passage that Trump is saying is going to be provided for two weeks as part of this, kind of the central part of it through Hormuz. They're saying is possible via coordination with Iran's armed forces, which obviously implies

that Iran controls the straight. and then from the National Security Council, they say this confers upon Iran a unique geopolitical, economic and geopolitical standing in terms of them regulating passage to the Strait of Hormuz. So what do you hear in all this? I mean, listen, who knows what's going on? Donald Trump lies every single day. Clearly, he's not telling the truth. But if you accept even part of the Iranian statement, Donald Trump has agreed to give Iran control of the strait of Hormuz.

That is extraordinary. If you go deeper into the statement from the Iranian National Security Council, they claim that Trump has also agreed to Iran's right to enrichment to suspend all sanctions against Iran and to allow Iran to keep their missile program, their drone program, and their nuclear program. Now, who knows if any of that is true, but if at the very least this agreement gives Iran the right to come to Iran the right to control, control the strait, that is cataclysmic for the world. And it is just stunning that that's where we have gotten to, that Donald Trump took a military action that has, apparently, at least for the time being, given Iran control over a critical waterway that they did not have control over before the war began. So it just doesn't sound like there's actually an agreement because when Trump is saying is totally different than what the Iranians are saying. But if Iran has the straight permanently now,

What an error, what a miscalculation this entire endeavor was. Seamus, just your reaction to that. And the fact that the focus here is on, I guess, American geopolitical aims not necessarily being met, seems to be some poor framing here at the very least and is almost designed to incentivize further escalation. out of interesting the Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut, changed his wording a little bit. He chose his words a bit more carefully than what he had said on Twitter when he initially saw it. The word that he used was heartbreaking on Twitter to describe the idea that the Strait of War moves might be in Iranians' hands after that. Nothing else in the war.

I don't think he described as heartbreaking, not the murder of schoolchildren, not the massive attacks that are being suggested. None of that was heartbreaking. No, the idea that America might have to pay any kind of economic price for this war, that's heartbreaking to him. I noticed that the Republicans and the Democrats seem to have, they're coming from the same tack here in their criticism of Trump. Lindsay Graham talked about this in many different ways. He used many different tax. But the primary thing was that, okay, we need to enforce this strategic victory against Iran. somehow. There's a potential here that we need to, okay, we need to, there was some sort of misstep.

There was some sort of, we didn't, we achieve victory too quickly. We claim victory too quickly. We need to enforce this somehow. This needs to be approved by Congress. This needs to be approved by Congress and the same way the JCPOA is. No, they always cared about process, but more or less they want this to have been executed better. They want this to have been executed better. They want this to have and execute in a much more strategically sound manner. They still have that fundamental criticism of the war on terror, that it wasn't the fact that all these Arabs died, all these Afghans died, countries were placed under the imperialistic boot

and had their affairs seized from them. No, it was the fact that we expended all of this effort for nothing. The word that I saw used by one of Biden's State Department spokespeople was we expended all of this blood and treasure and we got nothing out of it. That's the terminology of the thinking of using. The Iranian blood, the thousands upon thousands of people are a total non-entity to these people. It is entirely about the fact that we spent billions of dollars on this and not the fact that we were threatening to literally destroy their civilization. Those were the words that Trump had used. And that rarely factored into anyone else's calculations.

I mean, it really does speak to the rot of the DC blob and how entangled it is with our continuous bloodshed and attempts to kind of through might secure our economic power in the Middle East. like this is so this is so indelibly linked to like the way that the Senate and our current government is structured right now that there needs to be

some sort of way to disentangle it and disincentivize it but we've talked a lot about of course political corruption and it's no coincidence that the Zinist lobby got even more powerful

in this country after the Citizens United decision with the explosion of dark money in this country and there's also this New York Times piece. I will get to it later, but I wanted to get your reaction, Seamus, showing how Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israelis really sold Trump specifically on this war with Iran alongside the Mossad chief, Barnea, I believe is his name, and that there were voices in the room with

U.S. intelligence assessments saying that regime change is not possible. Trump was essentially not that worried about the regime change part. He just wanted to take out the Ayatollah. But and then the Times also points out that Hegeseth was a big proponent of this, which I think we called, given his previous statements about Muslims, about Iran, his, his support for bombing civilian infrastructure and cultural sites. But it really does feel like as we kind of get more information, Israel sold, Trump on the ease of this. He was feeling like he was on a high after Venezuela. And he turned to the most enthusiastic proponent of this within his cabinet, Pete Hegesith, who is an absolute idiot who doesn't, who was picked for this position because of Trump liked how he looked on TV essentially.

And that's what drove this policy. No, there doesn't. I did read the same piece that you're talking about, and I just, I'm still bewildered at the idea that this was supposed to go easily in any respect. The whole thing was that you were not supposed to do the Iran War by any administration. This is going to be way too difficult. It was going to be against a way to institutionalized system. There would be way to missiles and drones to deal with. you would have to figure out a way to curb Iran influence some other way.

But Hexsef, who, I mean, from his days on Fox News, is so obsessed with the tragedy of not only Vietnam, but also the withdrawal from Afghanistan, needed some way of getting that honor back and fighting a war in his terms, no matter how badly it went. I don't know if you saw the press conference that Hexsaf did with Kane. Yes.

I mean, it's like, it was like nothing ever happened. He went after the media. He was so sweaty and nervous and he just did the Trump thing where he couldn't answer straight up questions from reporters about how horrible this defeat looks strategically to them. And so he just started saying like ABC, of course, you know, oh, of course this reporter says it. That's when that's when you know, I mean, he's got nothing. Yeah.

Yeah. He has a preset thing. When he initially starts this war, I'm going to, at the end of this four, I'm going to come out and say this, anything else is not even going to be considered. And so he has to ask more questions. He has to abuse people. He has to yell at people. No, he had no idea how this was going to go. And he hoped that, like, something that I think was very emblematic about this, there was a piece of the financial times about how he trying to get a broker to bet on an arms company right before they started. And then he lost so much money.

Yeah, how do you lose insider, how do you lose on insider trading when you're on a war when you're the Secretary of Defense that you might have to be that dumb? You would have to, like, this is what happens when you elevate a platoon leader to lead the entire military of the United States. You have people, when you are firing people who have gone through these wars and are aware of the limitations of the military and what you can do. I had read somewhere that one of the people in the room was talking about how you would need to seize 300, more than 300 square miles of Iranian coastline and hold that indefinitely if you wanted the straight and four moves to be reopened. And this was something that Hegset was totally fine with. They stopped listening to people who actually knew what they were doing, regardless of actual malicious intent previous wars, and started listening to the blood. of Israeli military leadership that they had seen on television, and also taking after the bluster of American media and American video games. Sometimes in a very literal sense.

Oh, the Times did say that Nanyahu in part sold him on this by showing him videos. We've also heard that reporting from the brief, that he, his briefings from the military open with two-minute montages of all of the stuff they've blown up in Iran. Like, this is a child and Netanyah, I mean, we saw how Zoron Mamdani manipulated Donald Trump. Like, Benjamin Netanyahu's been doing with this with American

presidents for years and this is perhaps his most easily manipulable target. Oh, oh, 100%. 100%. I, like, you see Netanyahu in all these different points of history advocating for the

Iraq war, advocating for the Gulf War, back when he was a deputy, information minister inside Israel. No, he has never gotten a more pliant president, but conversely, that means you also have a president who has no idea how to actually execute this plan, and you're relying on this person to give you all these munitions, to place all of these ships, places, invade territory if need be, do the special ops heavy-handed work, if, if need be, is really spec ops forces are not going into one. No, you have to rely on this buffoon to do everything correctly.

And Netanyahu is now, I mean, even though he's trying to get this war back on, he has been left holding the bag to some extent. The reactions that I'm seeing out of the Israeli political sphere where you not only have Yadalapit, the liberal opposition leader saying this was a absolute disaster. Who endorses Greater Israel theory? Who endorses Greater Israel and said to a reporter that, Of course, the land of Israel extends into Iraq. You have to take six weeks.

Of course. Yadigolan, the leftist leader of another party conveniently called the Democrats, also saying that this was a disaster for Israel. Even someone from Iamar bin Vier's party saying that Donald had ducked out. Like everybody, like Democrats and Republicans in America hate this plan. Both conservatives and ostensible left wagers inside Israel hate this. There is no path other than I think of this war getting back on faster than... Jesus.

There is no incentive anywhere except, I don't know, in the ether. Exactly. That's what we've been saying on, like, the incentives for escalation for the actors involved here are, it's uniform. Iran understands that it can, that it needs to ask for maximum. demands. It needs to in order to deter this in the future. I would imagine that the fatwa on the nuclear weapon is completely dead. They're going to be trying to pursue some sort of deterrence, which they should. Israel needs this to escalate because Trump is their last chance, and they have the midterms coming up. And I think that this timing is very important in

understanding that when Benjamin Netanyahu sold Trump on this, why he feels he needs to act and essentially having like this 10 month window to achieve his objectives. So escalation is in his interests. And Trump is hearing from every side of the political class in this country, the rot that we've been speaking about, that he's a loser and he messed this up. And he's already said that terms three and five that are related to ceasing hostilities with those allied with Iran essentially, which Lebanon is at the center of, that, though, that's not the part of the deal that he agreed to last night. So where is the off-ramp? I think the only off-ramp is if Iran inflicts significant economic pain on the United States.

That was what they were going for. And this temporary ceasefire, I think, headed off those shocks that were supposed to happen in about a week or two when that was really going to be felt. Like, throughout all of this, the Trump administration has made able to manipulate the market by claiming the things were happening and therefore driving oil prices down. And it was starting to hit a point where that wasn't working anymore. And literally, right before the ceasefire happened, oil prices were about to hit, maybe within a dollar, hit the high that it hit during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And it could have easily gone higher had things proceeded that way. When the ceasefire happened, the oil price is tanked. They went back down to $90 and $90 to $100.

If Iran is able to close the street of war moves again firmly, if it is able to restart this war before America and Israel are able to regroup and resituate themselves, if they are able to maintain the ladder of escalation again, then there can be some sort of off-ramp that is, maybe not satisfying to both parties. Maybe America. I mean, they're already considering sanctions relief amidst all of this. But something that indicates that another war with Iran,

what Trump has been calling the need to do more, quote unquote, taps on Iran in the future. If there is a cost imposed, then future presidents and also Trump himself will not go down another war, another preemptive war, whatever he wants to call it. But that cost needs to be imposed. It cannot be through simply we agree to a framework, we agree to negotiating terms, we think this is a good basis for something. There needs to be something that is unignorable and untwistible

for the Americans to experience. That is what I think needs to happen. We'll let you go in just a second, Seamus, but breaking news from CNN, Iran says, it is halting traffic in the Strait of Hormuz after Israel attack Lebanon, testing fragile ceasefire deal. This is obviously what they were going to respond to when the terms that, the supposed framework that they were working on for the next two weeks that they were violated within

hours of that agreement. What's your response to that, the halting of traffic already beginning? That's very good, because that means that, look, look, I, I'll be very, very brief. The thing that messed up the strategy of Iran and its allies before was that there were delinking the fronts. They were allowing other groups to continue fighting while they stopped fighting, whoever those groups were. If there is a maintenance of those fronts, and that is ironclad, then Iran's leverage extends very far. As long as it maintains that, it can hold the upper half.

hand. And if that is happening, that is a very good sign for it and its military strategy. Is it a good thing for the Palestinians? I am hoping so. If they can affirm a total stop to the war on all fronts, then that is very good for the Palestinians because I cannot imagine a scenario in which things stop in Yemen, in Iraq, in Lebanon, and Iran, but somehow Gaza is outside of that process. I think it would be very difficult to justify. Well, I guess this is the positive note that we're leaving our conversation off with. I too share your sentiments and I guess we would be called un-American by Ben Shapiro, but who cares? Shamus Malacofsili, freelance journalist, co-hosts of the Turbulance

podcast, publisher of his newsletter at shamis mallocosceli.com. Thank you, much for your time today. Shamis, really appreciate whenever you come on. My pleasure. Thank you. Quick break, folks. And when we come back, we are going to be talking to an exciting candidate in New York's 17th congressional district, Effie Phillips Daley. We are back and we are joined now by Effie Phillips Staley, running in the Democratic primary for New York's 17th congressional district. That's in the Hudson Valley, just a little north of here. Thank you so much for coming on the show, Effie. Thanks so much for having me. Medicare for All. abolishing ice

and ending U.S. weapons to Israel. I'll start off with kind of the big question here. Do you support and agree with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that Israel can fund its own Iron Dome? I mean, look, what I agree with

is that we should not be funding any government that violates human rights, that commits human rights abuses. This is the leverage that we have as a nation. to influence other nations to put people's lives first and to put human rights first. So I would argue that as long as Israel is continuing to violate human rights in the West Bank,

we've obviously seen the most atrocious sort of genocide in Gaza, that we should not be enabling this with our tax dollars full stop. That is a very sharp difference than the current representative in New York 17. And I think we will get to him in just a bit. But you are still in the primary. And I wanted to ask you about your Democratic opponent, who is a rich tech executive. What are the differences between you and your opponent? And what's up with him and all of his, like, sexist, crude remarks that seem to be populating the Internet?

Well, look, I would say the fundamental difference between me and that particular candidate, is that I have worked my entire life for social justice. I have worked in the nonprofit sector. I, you know, human rights and equality has been a part of everything I've done from the moment I started working. My campaign is not self-funded. It's entirely grassroots. It's entirely funded by the people, not corporate PACs, not APAC, nothing along those lines. I was able to give myself some seed money to start this campaign because I won, or rather I was awarded funds following a sexual assault that I had endured.

And I decided that that was a good use of the money that I received to continue fighting for women, for women's rights for survivors of sexual assault. You know, we see an immense amount of predatory behavior and people who have committed all. awful things in our government in this moment. So yeah, so when he came out, when he didn't think it was a problem to make the kinds of sort of sexist, misogynistic statements that he made about women, about girls, that was a bridge too far for me. And that is not the kind of person that we need to see in Congress. So a lot of differences, you know, I can't give myself five million to run. Yeah.

So. You're your people power funded. And I mean, that's what we're seeing. I think people really are that they're desperate for. And I think, you know, beyond the atrocities, of course, that we've seen in Gaza, I think on the domestic level, it's a, when you don't take that kind of money, say, from APAC, or you don't take money from PACs at all. But I think this is such a stark.

example of how could you support this? How could I trust you if you support this? It's a stand-in for are you on my side? And it seems like you have a pretty stark contrast, both with Representative Mike Lawler, the Republican who's currently the congressman from New York 17 and in this primary. Yeah, I mean, the job is to work for the people. That is the people are the ones who entrust us with this position of power, and we only have it for the purpose of serving the people. The job is to be a public servant. But I would say Mike Lawler is doing a pretty good job of serving who funds him, which is not the people, right?

He is funded by no shortage of special interest money. This is what drives his campaign. So I would say the stark difference, I suppose, between myself and Mike Lawler is this idea of public service. Who do we owe in this process? We owe the people of our district, not the kinds of corporations or billionaires who want to bend the system to their benefit off the backs of working people. So Mike Lawler is doing his job, right? His job is to work for the people who fund him. My job will be to work for the people of the district.

Here is a clip of Representative Mike Lawler. I'd love for you to respond to yesterday on CNN in reaction to Trump threatening to end Iranian civilization. He says he doesn't support this statement, and then there's a but. Okay, the new threat for the president is that a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. You say the president doesn't want to do it. Does being reluctant to end a civilization make it okay? Again, I don't think we're talking about ending a civilization. The issue at hand is their energy.

You don't believe, are you saying you don't believe, Congress, do you say you don't believe the president's threat? Do you say you don't believe the president's threat? It is their energy infrastructure and their civilian infrastructure, including roads and bridges. that will cripple the Iranian regime and certainly their economy. That is not something we want to do because, as Ron Johnson said rightly, we are not at war with the Iranian people. We want them to be free from this oppression and tyranny that they have lived under for 47 years. But if the president has to take necessary action to strike their energy and infrastructure, that is going to cripple the regime. That is what he is talking about.

You don't believe a threat. You don't take him at his word that he will end a whole civilization. He is talking about the energy and civilian infrastructure. That's what he's talking about, John. Is he? Is that is, have you had a conversation? We can stop it there just because Trump did end up not nuking Iran, but like, that is not leadership. I mean, or it's leadership for the special interest that you're talking about there.

But just I guess your reaction to his inability to condemn Trump toying with the idea of killing millions of people overnight. Yeah, 80, 90 million people. That even the words ending a civilization would come out of the president of its mouth of our nation is so appalling. And that is classic, Mike Loller. That is classic. He will deflect. He will not answer the question. because he knows he's going to be in trouble if he does.

And frankly, I think it is appalling that anyone who is a representative of the people in this nation cannot hear a statement like that and say, absolutely not. This is a genocide that is being proposed with our tax dollars, with our military. You know, no, there's only one answer to the question that was posed to Mike Lawler, and he refused to answer it, which we can only mean, we can only take to mean, that he's probably okay with it, right?

Right. I mean, because you certainly didn't deny it. And this is, we can call it unhinged, but it's too, but the president has that power. It's his job to stop mass murder on that scale by a madman who seems to be hijacking our country and our military.

I'd imagine that. you would be one of the now around 50 Democrats who would support the 20 invocation, the invocation of the 25th Amendment for Donald Trump based on statements like that. You know, we always knew 100%, and we always knew that there was no bottom with President Trump, given the kinds of statements, he said, was vile, violent statements against any number of people, you know, with the kind of people that he courts, racist, anti-Semites, so many people that he attracts to his side. Yeah, we need our Congress to make this stop.

We need our Congress. That's why Mike Lawler has to go. Yes, absolutely. I want to maybe take a turn to talk about something that's relevant in the Hudson Valley and in New York State more broadly, which is like energy prices. and the construction of these AI data centers. I know you have been very critical of that dynamic. Can you speak a little bit about what you would do in Congress

and how it would impact your district in terms of regulating some of these data centers and their impacts on people's energy bills? You know, I think that we have, let me put it this way. If we put people first in all of the policy that Congress advances, then we will not see threats to our energy prices like this, threats to our environment. We will hold corporations like AI corporations accountable for putting forward these environmental threats, but also for potentially taking jobs from millions and millions of people. My son is a freshman in college. This is a moment where we all parents who are my age, but in general, are thinking hard about what are the kinds of jobs that are going to be available in the future for our kids who are

doing their best to learn and put themselves forward as good workers in our workforce. So I would say broadly that what we absolutely have to do is to regulate these companies, to make sure that they don't just absorb endless profit, but that they reinvest in the workers of our nation and that they absolutely make sure that there is no future damage to our environment and that our utility prices are not, that we are not paying for their innovation, that they invest in the kind of energy that's necessary to make sure that our prices don't spiral out of control. I know that in this district there are a lot of Latino voters. We've seen a massive swing across the country. Also, just a little bit south of Terrytown and the Hudson Valley you have,

I think it was Union City, where it was like a 50 point, it's very Hispanic city in New Jersey, a 50 points swing in the other direction in the 2025 November elections. This is not to speak about voters as a monolith, but it is really interesting, it's been heartbreaking to see ICE just, absolutely terrorize these communities and, you know, what could have been avoided. But I would imagine that you're hearing from some of your potential constituents that about how wanting more protection from ISIS terror. And I know you're in favor of abolishing ICE, but what else would you do to address immigration and bring some more humanity back to immigration, our immigration system because enforcement means, you know, obviously.

this this rogue Gestapo essentially. Yeah, we've, and thank you so much for asking this question, because I'll say, with my mother is an immigrant from El Salvador, and she came to the United States when it was still the Immigration and Naturalization Service. It was in 2003 that that shifted to ICE where we had border, where we had customs enforcement and immigration put together. So when I say abolish ICE, it is this construct. that puts together what should be an immigration service, right?

That enables people to come to this country under the right conditions and vets people who are not coming to this country under the right conditions. When they combine it with customs enforcement, you will hear things like some of the people I'm running against in this race say things like, well, we can't abolish ICE because we have to have customs enforcement. No, we need to separate these things because it's, It's the combination of this kind of enforcement and this idea that somehow drug enforcement is related to immigration that sets up for the situation that we're in right now, where innocent

people are being treated as if they're criminals, which they're not, who are having their human rights violated, which is appalling, under some kind of law enforcement justification that this is about drug enforcement or other kinds of things. It's entirely wrong. We need to humanize our immigration services. Again, we need to bring it back to what it was like when my mom came here. That very well said. And we're just going to do a wide shot quickly to show some of the posters that you have in the background.

The ultra wealthy pay their fair share. That is what it says on your poster. Let's end there. How critical is it? it for you to your campaign to be built on things like, you know, taxing the rich. What do you believe is the utility of that or the primary utility? Is it diminishing their power? Is it redirecting resources back to regular people in the form of, you know, the social safety net?

Is it all of the above? Why is that such a guiding principle for you? Thank you for asking. Look, our country and its people, has so much capacity in we, if we invest in what is, I believe, our most important asset, which is our people. I mean, our people is what makes our nation a great, for lack of a better way to put it. So the way I see it is I see it as fair tax reform. Like what is fair in terms of ensuring that our country can enable the best for everyone so that everyone can live their best

lives. And so, yes, so we argue that the ultra-wealthy certainly have the capacity to be taxed fairly in the benefit of our nation. So people who make over $50 million would be taxed at, like, a 3% wealth tax and people who are worth over $1 billion at a 6%. And this would infuse so much money, so much capacity into our nation and would not be a huge detriment to their staggering wealth. You know, to me, this is just a wise use of our capacity in a way to bring our nation back to, frankly, where it should be, one where everybody has a fair shot of the American dream. Well, your website is effie for congress.com. You can go there and donate. Any other kind of calls to action for our audience that they want to support your campaign? Yes, thanks. Please. We are a people-powered campaign. We are, again, the D-Triple-C isn't pouring money on this campaign. The billionaires are not funding this campaign. It's funded by ordinary people with $20, you know, $30,

dollar contributions and our ground game is how we're going to win it. So if you're able to volunteer, if you're able to make phone calls, we're going to show everyone, everyone how to win against the billionaires with people power. So I hope you'll join. Effie Phillips Staley running in New York's 17th congressional district. When's your primary? June 23rd. June 23rd.

I knew it's always late June in New York, but I just didn't have that that all. the top of my head. So really appreciate your time today. Effie Phillips Daly, and you can check out her campaign at Effie EFFI-E-E-F-F-I-E for Congress, for spelled out, not the number.com. So thank you so much. Thank you. All right, folks. With that, we're going to wrap up the free part of this program and head into the not-free part where we purportedly have fun. We have some people really are responding, well to Effie's campaign. I agree. I thought she framed all of those answers really well. And

Mike Lawler is just one sleazy guy. We've played as town halls. He can't step in public in his district. Yeah. It gets boot out of the building. Yeah. Every time he shows up. I mean, and he was hoping that he would be the, the potentially somebody who could challenge Kathy Hockel as a Republican. And he ended up seeing like with the Zora Monkani campaign and with the all of the negative polarization about Republicans, that probably wasn't the best move for him. It would be so poetic for him to also lose his seat in Congress, especially with a strong candidate like her running against him, but she has to win the primary first. So Effie Phillips Daley, supporter if you can, LXH Pinky. Effie Phillips Daley would make a marvelous president.

presidential candidate. I hope she wins to have a bit of time to prove herself even further. I always have my eye on potential female presidential candidates, and this woman has quickly caught my attention. Let's get her into Congress first, and then we'll cross that bridge. Matt, what is happening on Left Reckoning and with the Jackman Show? Yeah, Left Reckoning, we had a new episode yesterday where we went deep into Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell's discussion about if Zora Mamdani and Hassan Piker are malign influences that should be expelled from the Democratic Party and, you know, take it from two Republicans to talk about that. It's got 10,000 views already. So people are really tuned in for this episode. But you don't have 10,000 Instagram followers yet, which is what you mean.

Thank you for reminding me, actually, yes, because that's actually my priority is becoming a micro influencer on Instagram. I have, I've gained like 1,200 followers since I started doing this. So I'm like 1600 shy of 10,000. So, So folks, I need 1,600 more of you, and then I can, and I actually have some new Bluetooth microphones, so that I'm going to start doing front-facing videos and everything. And maybe I'll do a get ready with me. Who knows? Check that out at Matlek on Instagram.

I realized, like, probably a year and a half or so ago that Instagram is where it's at. Yeah, that's where it's at. I mean, Twitter's fun for basically, like, jamming communications of fascists, because that's who controls that network. Exactly. And occasionally you'll have a tweet that will go viral. that can get on for you, but there's no discourse happening there. Well, what's funny is like, yeah,

you tweet so that people screenshot it on Instagram and then post it with some music in the background, which I have seen my own tweets like that. I'm like, damn, okay, I was kind of cooking that. June Oliver says, everyone follow Matt on Instagram. You post nice Brooklyn Bridge photos. I did do a front camera selfie,

and people did correctly point out that my screen is a little bit blurry. It's, you know, like a five-year-old camera, folks. It was the once upon a time in New York Bridge. right? Yeah. I saw that. I saw that post. Brian's like, didn't like it though. Yeah, I saw it. Just hover your finger over.

I think you probably did. I think you probably did, yeah. We'll have to go check the record. Do your research before you talk to you. All right, guys. See you in the fun half. Okay, Emma, please. Well, I just, I feel that my voice is sorely lacking in the majority report. Wait, whoa. Look, Sam was unpopular. I do deserve a vacation at Disney World.

So, ladies and gentlemen. It is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show. It is Thursday. I think you need to take over for Sam. That's cool. I'm going to pause you right there. Wait, what? You can't encourage Emma to live like this.

And I'll tell you why. So it's offered a twerk, sushi, and poker with the boys. Who's offered boys? What? Tour. Sushi and poke. That's what we call bids. I just think that what you did to Tim Poole was mean.

Free speech. That's not what we're all. about here. Look at how sad he's become now. You shouldn't even talk about it. I think you're responsible. I probably am in a certain way, but let's get to the meltdown here. Oh my god. Twir? Wow. Sushi. I'm sorry, I'm losing

my fucking mind. Someone's offered a twerk. Sushi and poker with the boys. Logic. Twerp. Sushi and poker. A little kid. I think I'm not trying to be a dick right now, but like, I absolutely think the U.S. should be providing me with a wife and kids. That's not

What we're talking about here. It's not a fun job. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. Willie Walker. That's a real thing. And has like the weight of the world on the shoulders. Sam doesn't want to do this show anymore.

It was so much easier. When the majority report was just you, you were happy. Let's change the subject. Rangers and Nick are going great. Now, shut up. Don't want people saying reckless things on your program. That's one of the most difficult parts about this show. This is a pro-killing podcast.

I'm thinking maybe it's time we bury the hatchet. Left is best. Trump. Violet. Whirl. Be fun Israel. Incredible theme song. I Bumbler.

Emma Viglin. Absolutely one of my favorite people. Actually, not just in the game. Period.