The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3619 - Trump Allows Israel to Sabotage Ceasefire; Doctor Reports from Gaza w/ Dr. Tarek Loubani

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

It's an Emmajority Report Thursday on The Majority Report   On today's program:   JD Vance says that Lebanon was never a part of the ceasefire agreement between Israel, Iran and the U.S. despite it ...clearly being listed in the proposed 10-point peace plan.   Donald Trump posts on Truth Social that the U.S. military will stay in the middle east signaling that this war is far from over.   Dr. Tarek Loubani, a Canadian emergency room physician who has been volunteering in Palestine joins the program from Gaza for a harrowing interview. If you can, please support Dr. Loubani's Glia Project, a medical solidarity organization that empowers low-resource communities to build sustainable, locally-drive healthcare project.   In the Fun Half:   Brandon Sutton joins.   CBS Evening News uses one of their 22 minutes of broadcast time to cover a dog honking a car horn in Ireland. Must have been a slow news day.   Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) holds a press conference with the goal of goading Trump into continuing the war on Iran. Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) has the same message as Schumer.   Rep. Ro Khanna is one of the few Democrats pushing back against this war and the feckless Democratic leadership.   Mamdani quotes Tupac Shakur in addressing the war on Iran. "Money for wars but can't feed the poor".   Megyn Kelly calls Trump a mark for Netanyahu, going on to call him weak and gullible. Despite Megyn's recent rant, she still boasts that Trump could drop a nuke and she would still vote for a Republican over a Democrat.   Chip Roy is very scared of Abdul El-Sayed having a good chance of winning a Senate seat in Michigan. Roy characterizes El-Sayed's momentum as a part of a significant march of Islam across America.   Dana Bash present an infantile hit piece on Hasan Piker by running the same tired out-of-context quotes that every other outlet is pushing.   all that and more   To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: SHOPIFY: Sign up for a $1/month trial at shopify.com/majority SUNSET LAKE: use coupon code 420 to save 30% sitewide at sunsetlakecbd.com The sale ends April 22nd at midnight Eastern time. Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com

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Starting point is 00:02:26 It is Thursday, April 9th, 2026. My name is Emma Vigeland in for Sam Cedar, and this is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Dr. Tarak Lubani will be back with us, emergency room physician and founder of the Glea Project. He spoke to me this morning from Gaza. Also on the program, Israel has killed at least 250 people in the city. Lebanon in a violent barrage that included Beirut. And this morning, they've issued evacuation orders in the South for ethnic cleansing.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Iran responded by closing the Strait of Hormuz again, ahead of scheduled talks with the U.S. tomorrow. Oil prices jump back above $100 a barrel, and oil executives are, reportedly pleading with the White House to not allow Iran to charge tolls in the strait. This incentive for escalation since this got started is, uh, it's very scary. Trump is exploring moving U.S. troops out of NATO member countries to punish some European nations for not supporting his criminal war on Iran. Should have helped us when you had the chance, even though we didn't need it. Exactly.
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Starting point is 00:06:23 Still taking donations. Yeah. All this and more on today's Majority Report. Welcome to the show, everybody. It is an Majority Report Thursday. It's been all week, basically, because Sam is out on vacation. I could give him crap for that, but I'm the bigger person. It's pretty busy Newsweek, but, you know, spend time with your family or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So we recorded our conversation with Dr. Tarek Lubani earlier today just to ensure that we were going to be able to connect. It's quite difficult to connect in Gaza still. Thankfully, we were able to. It's an extraordinary account. It's a difficult conversation, as it always is. is with our friend, the heroic Dr. Lubani. So if you can support the Glea project, please do. We will put a link down below wherever people are listening to or watching this.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And just in case any of the listeners, you know, maybe are in a place where they don't want to hear a certain kind of graphic imagery, just a content warning about that interview that's coming up. Or even sounded like explosions or gunfire in the background. You will hear at the beginning of the interview a drone. It goes away and probably after a few minutes, but you could hear, yeah, a lot of things in the background is. And he came to us from a tent. A wall tent. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So just, but if you, I would encourage everyone to listen to the interview if they feel they can. Let's start here. So Israel has just been absolutely pummeling Lebanon, launching a ground invasion. in the South, ordering evacuation orders so they can ethnically cleanse the parts of Lebanon that are south of the Lothani River. But they've been striking commercial residential areas in Beirut, just hundreds dead reports of like EMTs in Lebanon just saying there's no use. We're driving straight to the morgue.
Starting point is 00:08:34 These bodies are just so badly mangled. They're using their tactics in Gaza right now in Lebanon. And Dahia Doctrine, I mean, actually originally in Lebanon, they took it on the chin from Hezbollah decades ago and decided we're just going to start bombing civilians now. And they did so as soon as this ceasefire, in quotes, or the, we shouldn't really call the ceasefire. It's more of an agreement to diplomacy. Diplomacy that they're supposed to be having talks tomorrow. and it's key to point out that these talks are being mediated by Pakistan, which has a relationship, a close relationship with the United States government, the government that's in power there now.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But the Israelis were trying to sabotage any kind of diplomacy, and that's why they attacked Lebanon, so aggressively because Lebanon was a part of the ceasefire terms. Now the U.S. and Israel are claiming that that was not the case, but we're about to show you that they're lying, of course. The fact that Iran feels like they can include Lebanon and kind of link arms with Lebanon and Hezbollah right now. And even the broader resistance. Yes, as a part of the ceasefire terms, shows how strong their position is. And to Matt's point, shows that they are thinking about this resistance beyond the survival of Iran from this barrage from the U.S. and Israel.
Starting point is 00:10:18 They are thinking about the day after and how this resistance continues and how the design, this project can fall apart, inshallah. That's, that's, and they want to accelerate that. and perhaps given the lack of preparedness and the arrogance of this operation by the U.S. and Israel, we could see that reality develop potentially if Iran's position continues to be strengthened. I mean, people were talking about what South Africa did in the final years of apartheid, the complete belligerence and invasion of its neighbors and hysteria, and then it collapsed in a way that nobody expected.
Starting point is 00:10:58 A similar thing happened with our Confederate states in America. tried to take over more states, they tried to force things in the Constitution like slave catching laws, and their mouths got too big for their empire, and they collapsed. And, you know, that's what we have to hope for
Starting point is 00:11:15 with this. Exactly. Exactly. And so Ryan Grimm, our dear friend, has kind of been at the center of some of the reporting on these talks. This morning, the New York Times confirmed Ryan's
Starting point is 00:11:31 reporting, of course they did not credit him, about the mediations and the talks that surround Pakistan. So the prime minister of Pakistan, Shabazz Sharif, tweeted out the terms that we outlined yesterday, the framework, the 10-point framework that Iran had put forward, that Trump said that they were going to work around, which also did include attacks, C-Syceasing. in Lebanon from Israel. Ryan had pointed this out and reported that, huh, in the original tweet here, it was edited because there was something that said draft, which made it seem incredibly likely that the United States was approving these statements.
Starting point is 00:12:17 So the New York Times then a few days later has confirmed that, yes, the White House knew about Sharif's tweet before he sent it out and that they've been consulting with the United States, which if you know the relationship between the U.S. and that. government, it seems like common sense, but they're now trying to lie because they have been the most like untrustworthy negotiating partners possible, both the United States and Israel, to say, no, no, we never agreed that Lebanon was a part of that. Let's be clear. Trump is prioritizing and has been Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign in southern Lebanon over the ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And Iran believes, of course, naturally, that the Americans are lying about these negotiations, and Trump seemed to confirm that in this true social post. We'll play this after. But Trump, I guess this was a few hours ago. I'm not sure exactly when this was. Maybe I can just click on it quickly. Okay. It was nearly right before midnight last night.
Starting point is 00:13:27 All U.S. ships, aircraft, and military personnel with a. additional ammunition weaponry and anything else that is appropriate and necessary for the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded enemy enemy and a Stephen Miller yeah I mean it's just so Miller voice Trump is as addicted to run on sentences as he is addicted to McDonald's um necessary for the legal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded enemy will remain in place in and around Iran until such time as the real agreement reached is fully complied with. If for any reason it is not, which is highly unlikely, then the shooting starts bigger and better and stronger than anyone has ever seen before.
Starting point is 00:14:10 It was agreed a long time ago. That's when the looting starts, the shooting starts. He's playing the hits. But this is the key part. It was agreed a long time ago. And despite all the fake rhetoric to the contrary, no nuclear weapons and the Strait of Hormuz will be open and safe. In the meantime, our great military is loading up and resting, looking forward actually, to its next conquest. America is back. Yeah, but they love it out there. We have been, we have spoken about how our extremely expensive military equipment, it's been depleted.
Starting point is 00:14:48 The stores that you would want for this kind of war in Iran are not where they need to be. And so the Iranians believe that it's quite likely that these negotiations are another attempt by the Americans and the Israelis to lull them into a false sense of security before they bomb them. And Trump just truthed out that this is an opportunity for us to reload. So last night, J.D. Vance, who, him and Marco Rubio were clearly leaking to the New York Times trying to distance themselves from this war in Iran. We went over that yesterday. He was in Hungary campaigning for Victor Orban. For America. Oh, sorry. Right. America first.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Some foreign influence. Yes. Campaigning for, yeah, a European autocrat. Okay. Thanks, J.D. Yeah. And it would be amazing if the election results go. I mean, it doesn't look great.
Starting point is 00:15:45 We'll see what Orban's shenanigans are in terms of the messing with the election results. But if he loses in a humiliating fashion after all of this, I won't be so hard. Yeah, call him the big guns like J.D. Vance and Rob Schneider. Yeah. And Dave Rubin. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was there too. I don't care that he hates me because I'm gay.
Starting point is 00:16:06 All right, we're getting off track. Here's J.D. Vance in Hungary on the tarmac. Now claiming and lying that the U.S. never agreed to forcing Israel to stop carpet bombing Lebanon. First of all, I actually think, and there's a lot of bad faith, negotiation and a lot of bad faith, you know, propaganda going on. I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise. We never indicated that was going to be the case. What we said is that the ceasefire would be focused on Iran and the ceasefire would be focused on America's
Starting point is 00:16:47 allies, both Israel and the Gulf Arab states. Um, so as I just laid out, the Americans, now confirmed by the Times, approved the framework that the mediator, the Pakistanis, tweeted out. They approved of it. Trump is just prioritizing Benjamin Netanyahu's desire to ethnically cleanse Lebanon over the ceasefire holding. Now, there was some reporting this morning that Trump is trying to get BB to tone it down in Lebanon from NBC. I saw that. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Welcome back Joe Biden. Okay. Welcome back Joe Biden. You've always been, you could yank on the leash, but you're choosing not to. You're choosing not to. And this is, I mean, absolutely spiraling out of control as well beyond just the genocide in Gaza. And to be clear, other 10 point plan, number three, end the end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon. And then five, I would also tack on there.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And to all regional fighting against Iranian allies. Yes, it's, it was abundantly clear. So that guy is, he's just lying. For Israel. Of course. And so the, there's also now this morning news that came out that Benjamin Netanyahu's corruption trial is set to resume on Sunday because Israeli courts have now lifted the state of emergency that had been imposed within Israel because of the war in Iran. You can see that there's a direct link here for Netanyahu, his corruption. trial resuming and they're no longer being a state of emergency, like, that's his direct incentive to continue this war in Iran beyond just Israel's broader incentives and the way that the society
Starting point is 00:18:40 is structured, which is about building out greater Israel and stealing Lebanese land and committing genocide in Gaza and atrocities in the West Bank. His trial's been delayed over and over again since 2020, and you can delay that if you're constantly at war. And here is Benjamin's Benjamin Netanyahu, but there's a translator over it. Speaking about how, no, fighting is going to keep going in Iran. Don't worry about it. And Israel is stronger than ever. This is the bottom line of this campaign up until now.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Let me say, there are still additional objectives for us to achieve, and we will achieve them either by agreement or by resumption of the fighting. We are ready to resume the fighting at any moment. Our finger is on the trigger. As you know, two weeks ceasefire has been announced between the U.S. and Iran. No, we were not surprised in the last moment, and I want to emphasize. This is not the end of the war. This is a step in order to achieve all the objective.
Starting point is 00:19:48 There you go. He sounds like a Democrat in the Senate. Yeah, right. We will get to try. Chuck Schumer's statements later. I didn't want to raise my blood pressure that high this early on in the show. You just didn't do it the right way. We have all these objectives about Iran that we need to still do.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It's high on my priority. That's not even him saying that the war in Lebanon is not over, which would be an accurate assessment of their complete bloodthirstiness. It's him saying, now we're going to continue to drag the United States into this war in Iran. And like, how if Israel is acting outside of what the United States wants, which I don't believe, how does a two-sided ceasefire work when there's a third party and also a fourth party involved, the third party being Israel and the fourth party being Lebanon?
Starting point is 00:20:46 Israel needs us to do this to Iran. Like, remember when Marco Rubio and all those guys were stumbling over themselves over how we got into this war and they said basically Israel is going to do it so we need to join in. If Israel had just attacked Iran and we stayed out of it, our regional allies wouldn't have been targeted. It would have just been once again Israel and Iran going back and forth. And Israel can't have that. Israel needs to focus on its littler neighbors close by and they need us to be the big boats that come in and deal with Iran. Iran. It is disgraceful. We have the strategic imperative for Americans right now should be to remove anyone from Congress that wants to play that
Starting point is 00:21:23 role for Israel. And that includes, you know, of course, J.D. Vance and Donald Trump right now. Yeah. We'll play. I mean, I was shocked to hear. Right now, there are voices in the right-wing media sphere that are just calling it exactly like it is. Like, Megan Kelly went on Pierce Morgan and I couldn't even believe it, but I agreed with everything that she said about how Trump has failed on this and how Israel has dragged us into this, into this horrific war. So it's deeply unpopular. There's also a piece in our packet about how Republicans are worried that this is going to cost them the midterms.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Like, yeah, buddy. Yeah. It turns out when you campaign on no more wars and then start one of the worst ones possible, there may be consequences. That might prove to be a watershed in American
Starting point is 00:22:15 hegemony and prove America did not have the might that we've been investing toward. You might have lost more than the midterms with this stupid war. Holy, holy, I mean, Iran is going to emerge much more powerful and the United States's ability to show, demonstrate military dominance has been severely weakened. So even if you're just like a neocon blob person that just cares about American hegemony, hegemony, you've got to be pretty pissed off too. You would also have to ignore that we've lost like our last seven wars. You would, that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That's what the pills are for. But the other people were better at hiding that humiliation. You know, this is just what happens when you unwoke our military guys. I mean, we would have been winning. We would have been winning if all of the wokes were back and the woke people. And if they stop blocking these promotions of all of these black people and women. said we renamed the bases after losers of a civil war that happened
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Starting point is 00:27:03 Lubani, Canadian emergency room physician, founder of the Glea Project, which seeks to provide medical supplies to impoverished locations. And Dr. Lubani is called, we're speaking to him from Gaza right now. Thanks so much for coming back on the show, Dr. Lubani. Thank you so much for having me, Emma. Appreciate it. It's great to see you. I'm happy. You're safe. You are in Gaza right now. Which hospital are you working out of? Well, I worked out of Nassar Hospital, which is based in the southernmost, I guess it's the southernmost hospital that's available and the most functional. It used to be the case, you know, I've been working in Gaza at this point for over 15 years.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And my only interactions with Nassar were very, very brief because it was such a tiny, tiny hospital, not even a secondary hospital back in the day. And all of a sudden it went from seeing a couple of hundred patients a day, having just a few beds, to having to serve almost a million people. It's been really crazy to sort of see that. But right now it's the most functional hospital in the entire Gaza Strip. The other two semi-functional hospitals being Al-Aqsa in Deer Al-Belah, which is the middle part, and then Shifa Hospital, which I saw again and has been so thoroughly destroyed and devastated. But, yeah, I'm based out of the south, but right now traveling between the hospitals doing a couple of projects. How many hospitals were there in Gaza before the genocide began? The public sector hospitals were 14.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And then overall, there were about 36 hospitals once you counted in the NGO-funded hospitals and the hospitals that were private or semi-private. And of those 36, truly, there's only three functioning hospitals. the ones that I mentioned, which are Nasser Medical Complex, Al-Aqsa, and Shifa. And then other than that, everything has been reduced to basically tents. Like you see behind me, Glea's tent. And this is a place where we used to run a medical clinic and now have been able to move it to yet another tent that's in the Nasser medical complex.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So the medical system has been completely, completely ravaged. It's been, I think probably the right word is desecrated as well, because the reality is every time the Israelis came into a hospital, they vandalized things, they smashed things, they burned things. They would, for example, I visited the MRI machines and CT scanners that were left, and the Israelis would go in there, set off explosives, MRIs and CTs, and then leave the place. Occasionally they would plant little explosives or put, for example, a gun inside some of the devices to pretend like, you know, there were things that were in there.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But the reality is that they have absolutely devastated the hospitals, destroyed the equipment, burned the supplies, and now are not allowing anything in. Since about January, nothing has come in in terms of medical supplies. And even before them, the few medical supplies that came in were minimal. There was almost nothing coming in even before. And how did those medical supplies come in at all? Do you mean before the war or?
Starting point is 00:30:26 The last batch that you were able to receive? Yeah, there are a couple of things that were happening in the last little bit. I mean, one of the things that happened that is now pretty much public knowledge is that there was some corrupt Israeli officials that literally had to be bribed with large sums of money to allow some medical equipment to enter. And just to kind of show you some of the Israeli mentality, when those people were caught, they'd been smuggling, they're from the Israeli military system. They were related to some high up people. And when they were caught, it was treated like high treason. You know, why would you allow in solar panels? Why would you allow in medical supplies? Even crazier is that the Israelis knew that there was smuggling happening, that there
Starting point is 00:31:16 was a problem because they knew that they weren't allowing in any medical supplies of these variety. They knew that they weren't allowing in things like batteries and solar panels. Now, these types of things, batteries, solar panels, medical devices, medical equipment, these are not something that should ever be embargoed or part of any siege. And yet here we find ourselves. And of course, the medical system and the Palestinians as resourceful as they are when they saw that opportunity, that's what they focused their smuggling on, was medical supplies and the basics for a minimal quality of life. I remember seeing a report. It might have been from drop site news some months ago that Israel was letting in certain kinds of narcotics for people, but not medical supplies. I mean, I'm not sure how widespread that is, but it just gives people a sense of what their priority is here.
Starting point is 00:32:14 and the amount of control that they really do have, including in these gangs that are funded by Israel. I know that there are gangs within Gaza that have been responsible for massacres, and Israel is basically funding them as some sort of counterweight to Hamas. What can you tell us about what that situation is like on the ground? Yeah, in terms of the gangs,
Starting point is 00:32:43 the gangs are still very, active. I don't know if you and I had discussed this the last time that we had spoken, but I was there when Abu Shabab's gang had broken into Nasser Hospital, killed five of the people who were in the emergency department and then rampaged through. You know, I was there. I had pulled down some of the patients who were on ICU beds, on ventilators, including a six-year-old girl, pulled them to the ground so that if somebody came in and opened fire in that trauma bay that they wouldn't be hurt. I was the only medical person left. You know, we had everybody else was younger than me. I'd sent them off and, you know, sort of stayed to take care of the patients. And I fully understood
Starting point is 00:33:27 that if they got into that room, they would probably have killed me. They would have probably killed all the patients who were in there. Abou Shabab ultimately has been more or less dismantled by one of the units of the resistance that has been dealing with them. They've been attacked repeatedly. One of their leaders was assassinated by the resistance. And so now you see some weak or smaller sort of parts of the gang, but they are still very active. Sometimes I see them going around. Like for example, when we were driving to the hospital, one of their, they have very brand new cars that are heavily armored, and it sort of drove by us while they were kind of riding and trying to to prove that they were still there.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Of course, they were very, very, very close to Israeli armored support. So if the Palestinians tried to stop them from stealing or doing anything else, the Palestinians knew that they would be attacked. In a case this week, so just about a week ago, the gangs went into a school that was serving as a shelter to ostensibly try to assassinate somebody who the Israelis had instructed them to go assassinate, And all of the people who were around them started resisting them initially unarmed,
Starting point is 00:34:45 but then when people with guns showed up, then they resisted them with arms as well. And the Israelis just figured, well, whatever, and then bombed the whole place, killing about 10 people who, 10 civilians, you know, women, children, obviously not even the people who were targeted by this militia, and also even killing some of their own militiamen who were dragged out by the Israelis afterwards. So the militias are collaborators. They are clearly responsible for an immense amount of suffering, and they are active participants who just can't be and aren't strong enough to really make a difference in the equation militarily, only to harm people and make life worse. And could you describe for people when you drive around Gaza? Obviously, you are
Starting point is 00:35:39 In the part of Gaza that has not been seized by the Israelis, people will remember the yellow line. Israel has stolen at this point 53% of the Gaza Strip. And if you cross that line, you will be shot at and killed. That happened to two young boys, amongst many others. But their faces stick out in my mind about this. If you could just give people a sense of what it smells like, what it looks like, what it looks like, what it's like to be in the Gaza Strip right now. Yeah, I've watched the yellow line crawl over the days since I got here.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I've now been here three months, and when I first got here, there's a very main highway called Salahiddine Street that separates, that was considered to kind of be 100 or even 200 meters away from the yellow line. And our bus to the hospital, you know, people from Glea ride on the Ministry of Health buses as an act of solidarity and protection for our colleagues. And our bus from Glea's hub, our center to the hospital, takes Salaheddin Street. And as time has gone on,
Starting point is 00:36:50 we've had to turn off of Salaheddin Street sooner and sooner. There are also these yellow bricks that are by the road, and we've seen them advance, you know, half meter every day until finally they reach Salahideen Street. Right now they are basically just on the other side of Salahideen, and all of us know that on any given day we could be shot at. The bus that we're riding in has multiple bullet holes that have been put there by the Israelis on that very street.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And in fact, just this week, literally a few days ago, you know, I was walking to the bus stop. And on our way there, one of my old students, a resident doctor who I had taught several years ago, who is now a World Health Organization doctor, stopped this beautiful white World Health Organization vehicle to sort of say hi and check in. I gave him a big hug. And off he went.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And I went my way too all the way to the hospital. Now, just to tell you what his job is with the World Health Organization, this doctor's job is to liaise and interact with the Israelis and to transport sick patients out of Gaza. And so he was on his way to do that, as he had done every single day for months since the ceasefire had began, and especially since the Rafah crossing had opened, allowing a trickle of medical patients to travel in either direction. He is cleared by the Israelis at such a high level that on occasion he was allowed to travel with patients into Israel to do what's called a warm handoff to other ambulance organizations. and while he was driving, while he was driving on Salaheddin Street,
Starting point is 00:38:34 hundreds of meters away from this yellow line, a bullet hit the head of his driver, a sniper bullet. And of course, that driver slumped over, and when everybody sort of realized what had happened, he grabbed, obviously, the first thing he did was duck, and then he grabbed the steering wheel and steered their vehicle into some rubble so that it would stop.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You know, how else was he going to get it to stop? Once that happened and the car came to a stop, the Israelis lit it up. They put dozens, if not hundreds of bullets through the thing and were shooting everywhere and every which way. When the Israelis came to the vehicle, the only reason why this man and the doctor who was with him weren't probably killed on the spot was that he was yelling out, we're from the WHO,
Starting point is 00:39:26 show and was waving his vest. The Israelis obviously made them take off their clothes just in case they were the kind of World Health Organization doctors who posed some danger to them. Obviously they knew that they weren't. And then they made them walk and abandoned their deceased, their martyred colleague for 500 meters. And what was the word that the Israelis put in their first reports, that this was an attacker? Now, when I heard about him, I was confused because I thought I had already received patients from the shooting at Salahedin Street because just five to ten minutes before that, the Israelis had shot up an entire bus of people commuting in a private bus to work.
Starting point is 00:40:13 They were tailors and seamstresses who were going to sew in Chen Yunus. And mercifully, even though that bus sort of caught fire, they were able to exit its same. safely, and there was another UN bus right behind them that they were able to get onto and that was able to escape, even though it was also targeted and shot up. So when we talk about the yellow line, we're talking about yet another act of depravity. Even if the yellow line were as declared, it took about half of all of Gaza. But the Israelis don't use the yellow line as a limit. They use it as a suggested starting point from which they can shoot with no accountability.
Starting point is 00:40:55 You and I both know, you and I both know that there will never be accountability for the sniper who shot that innocent man. There will never be accountability for the tank gunners who lit up that WHO vehicle. There will never be any accountability. And that's on the Israeli level, which we expect, because it's a broken, broken society, but also on the international level, because international humanitarian law and international justice has so badly failed. You were shot by the Israelis during a peaceful demonstration a few years ago, Great March of Return. And last time you were on the show, I believe you were speaking about how on different days you can see that the IDF is rotating which body parts to target on individuals. one day it'll be ahead, the other next day it'll be genitals and shooting at children's genitals.
Starting point is 00:41:59 That was one thing that you told us last time. I'm just opening that conversation up again. Are those tactics still being deployed by the IDF? What are you seeing in terms of the games that they've been playing? Yeah, they're still playing games and the depravity is really crazy. Like, for example, they went through a period over. over the last few weeks since I think in the first couple of weeks of the start of the Iran War, where they were targeting little kids with drones.
Starting point is 00:42:32 It's obvious that, like, you and I probably can't know exactly how the force projection has changed in the air, but what I do see is the victims. And it was about a week in which almost everybody who I saw was a child, often alone, shot by a drone missile. and one of them who I saw that particularly affected me and bothered me was this really beautiful three-year-old girl who was walking home from school. And she still had her little backpack when she got to us.
Starting point is 00:43:05 She was walking home from school. She saw her father, started running towards him when a drone missile hit her. And I don't know exactly how these drone missiles work, but it ended up that most of the Indian missiles, were sort of in the upper part of her body. So when she got to us, she was virtually blind. She couldn't really see. She was fully awake.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And she was just crying out for her baba. And I, obviously, you know, we had to do what we could. We worked as hard as we could. And we ended up sort of figuring out where everything was. She had a, she was what's called eviscerated, A little piece of her intestines was hanging out. So we had to sort of deal with that to stabilize her. We had no pain management available.
Starting point is 00:43:58 So we couldn't give her a pain medication. And instead, as she kind of sat there, you know, I obviously have to operate as a doctor, not as a parent or as a human being, as it were, in that moment, you know. And so here we were trying to do our job, trying to figure out where all the shrapnel was trying to stabilize her and get her to the operating room. We got her to the operating room. They did surgery on her for some time, but unfortunately, later that day, she died.
Starting point is 00:44:30 That particular game was so evident for about a week. In fact, while we were dealing with her, we had to make this terrible decision between her and the nine-year-old girl who was laying beside her intubated as to who would go to surgery. surgery first. And when we sent this three-year-old girl, it was because we thought she was the most salvageable, the one who was most likely to survive of the two. And that nine-year-old girl, her
Starting point is 00:45:02 heart stopped while we were waiting for her to go to the operating room. And so we started to do compressions on her, and started to get her the blood from her heart to fill. Her stomach was so full of blood, was so full of blood, that we knew that she just needed to get into that operating room, somebody to open it up and to see if they could stop the bleeding. So we kept as much as we could pouring blood into her from the volunteers who were giving it and trying our best to wait until she could go to the operating room. But unfortunately, she didn't survive. That week, I can't tell you how many kids we had. And they were all the same story. hit by drones.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Now, I don't know how good their cameras are, but I find it very, very hard to believe that anyone would mistake a child for an adult from the views that you and I have seen from some of these leaked camera drone footage. I find it very hard to believe that they didn't know that those were kids. But, you know, that's kind of what we saw.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Right now, in terms of the games that are being played, they just rotate. Right now, they're, they're doing sniper shots to the head again. We see that in kids. Almost everybody who's getting hit right now is kids. We see all kinds of other depravity, like the killing of that entire family,
Starting point is 00:46:31 like another sort of drone missile or bombs that happened to tents. I mean, honestly, I think I feel exhausted on every level, just sort of trying to recount the new kinds of depravity that that have emerged over the last while. And I'm shocked that this far in, I'm still surprised by what I see. I don't mean to make you relive the worst of what you've experienced. And of course, I mean, your heroism and everybody that your colleagues, it can't be overstated. What medical supplies are available, which are in, dire, what shortages are most dire? And if you could just give people a sense of what even the hospital
Starting point is 00:47:27 looks like comparatively to say like a Western hospital we might be more familiar with. Like I said, you know, you see behind me the tent type material, lots of our hospital work at this point is happening in tents. So, for example, we have different kinds of emergencies. One of them being a traumatic emergency, one of them being a medical emergency. The trauma emergency, we've had to maintain it as it is and where it is, but the medical emergency is an attempt. When it rained, that emergency flooded. We just haven't been able to really accomplish very much in terms of moving things forward or rebuilding. In theory, there's a ceasefire right now. Despite that, we're still sometimes getting 20 or 30 patients a day who are shot or bombed by the Israelis.
Starting point is 00:48:17 where we still have no reconstruction supplies. You know, for example, Glea just opened a wound care service with a wound care, an outpatient clinic, and that clinic is serving out of a tent. You know, you have people who are coming in with terribly infected wounds, and we have to treat them out of a tent. The tent cities here are more and more and more.
Starting point is 00:48:40 There is just no way that we're able to kind of move forward. So in theory, there is a C.E. fire. And in fact, the Palestinians have ceased fire. They have been incredibly restrained. They have made sure to comply with the terms. But the Israelis have not. They've not allowed in medical supplies. Simple gauze is difficult to access. Antiseptics are difficult to access antibiotics. If I were to describe, like for example, if I were in Canada in my hospital, like in the teaching hospital where I teach or in one of the community hospitals where I often work, if If I were in one of those hospitals and I asked doctors, okay, how would you treat one of the patients who I saw?
Starting point is 00:49:24 I would have to say, no, not available to the first 20 or 30 things that they suggest in terms of any kind of treatment. Any of the kinds of fluids that we would want to use, blood products that we would want to use, tests that we want to use, medical devices that we want to use, they're all absent or broken. And that is, of course, the deliberate policy of the Israelis. There's really, it's very difficult to sort of speak of it in any way other than to congratulate the Palestinians for their absolute and incredible steadfastness in meeting all of these challenges and in surviving through the worst and most depraved siege that I've ever heard of. Can you speak about the differences in what conditions are like on the ground since the Iran war began? Yeah, I really didn't know what to make of the Iran War because in June I was also here during the war then. And then the Iran War gave us a little bit of relief. And indeed, in some ways there is some relief, right?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Like there aren't as many drones flying overhead. So at the beginning of our interview together, there was a drone flying overhead, but right now I don't hear it. That's because they've had to spread thin their drones. It used to be the 24 hours a day, seven days a week, you would hear the drone overhead. So things like that have decreased. The bombings have decreased. Right now it's mostly drones that are hitting us rather than the F-35s or whatever
Starting point is 00:51:01 planes they're flying over here. And so those things have indeed decreased. but at the same time they have turned so tight the siege as a result of this war. And I expect that that's probably going to get worse as Israel is hammered harder and harder. Now, I want to remind you, Egypt is right there. So Egypt is a direct participant in the siege. They're a junior partner for sure. You know, they're not calling the shots.
Starting point is 00:51:29 The Israelis are calling the shots. But Egypt's right there. There's no reason why we should have this kind of, siege happening and why we should be this deprived. But Israel has turned everything down. So, for example, we don't have enough petroleum or petroleum products, that is to say, like diesel for the cars, diesel for the generators, and gasoline for the cars that don't take diesel. But not only that, we now are running low on oil. So, for example, in order to run any kind of engine, you, especially 24 hours a day, seven days a week, like the generators, you need not. You need not. You need
Starting point is 00:52:06 not just the combustible sort of oils, but you also need the lubricating oils. And those are completely unavailable. So you have these machines that are being run right up to the limits of their capabilities and sometimes burning out, which means that those generators are no longer able. And the hospitals have had to just kind of go dark for periods of time. The oils have been conserved so that they're now pointing only towards the hospitals.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And it's very clear that as this thing stretches, Israel, if not forced by the rest of the world, and I would dare say by Iran and the resistance, will continue to strangle Palestine until it dies. Does it give you any hope that it seems like Israel is, I mean, I'm sorry, Iran is including Lebanon in its demands to the United States and to Israel. my hope is that they, in binding themselves to Hezbollah, that perhaps that creates some sort of deterrence in Gaza for at least a little bit. I'm not a political analyst. This is a really tough. It's a tough question. But, you know, liberating the Northern Front only frees up soldiers so that they can attack us. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:29 So I'm not sure what ends up happening as a result of this. I do know that if there isn't a comprehensive agreement that forces Israel to behave differently, it won't. You know, right now, the Palestinians in good faith, went into a ceasefire. The Palestinians in good faith ceased firing, and the Palestinians in good faith have been following all of the things that they're supposed to follow. And in return, the Israelis have allowed in a very tiny fraction of the food supplies that they're supposed to allow and have allowed in zero percent. of the reconstruction supplies that they were supposed to allow in, and especially through the winter, and have also, in terms of medical supplies,
Starting point is 00:54:12 allowed in virtually zero medical supplies. So I don't know how what happens when, slash, if the war ends with Iran and Lebanon. But I do sincerely hope that whatever the new status quo is, it will include a Palestine that is free from the kind of occupation and siege that Israel has imposed upon it. Just a few more questions, Dr. Lubani. Last time we spoke, I asked you about the death toll and the undercount and how there are, and you spoke about how it's widely understood that there are hundreds of thousands of people
Starting point is 00:54:55 under rubble that are unaccounted for. if you could remind people of that dynamic and give us a sense of where, if there's any clarity right now on the true death toll. Every single day, there are more people who are pulled out from the rubble who were killed during the war, during the first year or two years of the war. We haven't been able to go to Rafah, even if we do make our way to Rafah. Raffa is flat. You know, it's been bulldozed over. I doubt very much that we're going to be able to realistically figure out who all the people are who are buried under that rubble. So right now, indeed, there isn't a very clear count of how many people are dead.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And a couple of hundred thousand is a very, very reasonable estimate. And is in fact the estimate that you see floated internally among Israeli and American circles. I think they know that that's about the number who have been killed because they have a better sense of kind of the population flows of what's happening. and so on. Especially when there's been an entire family wiped out, what's what the Palestinians call wiped from the civil registry, it's very hard to track those people because ultimately you can only track the people who somebody tells you are missing. The other problem here as well is that the Palestinians have chosen the most conservative way of counting their dead. They will not count a dead person until they have a body. And they generally don't record the
Starting point is 00:56:25 unidentified within their big list of deaths, unless they have a very, very, very good sense of who that person is, they're identified by their clothes, by their families, et cetera. I went to Nasir, I went to Nassar, and to their morgue. And I was with the forensic doctors who were there when they received some of the trucks that were sent in by Israel. The bodies that were there, I mean, some of them prisoners, some of them who were sort of killed and brought in for one reason or the other by the Israelis. Some of them who were taken out of graves,
Starting point is 00:57:03 there is the most, I guess, I don't know, even really know what we're his left, depraved again, treatment to these bodies. For example, many of them are missing thumbs. And it was just one after the other, after the other, missing thumbs. So I asked the doctrine, he looked at me like, well, isn't it obvious? Like the Israelis cut off all their thumbs
Starting point is 00:57:23 so that they have a database of all the different. people who they've killed, either because they want to identify them or they want to check them against some other list of people. So they will cut and collect thumbs. And you can just imagine, like, take that mental image of a soldier going around with shears, cutting thumbs off and doing what? Putting them in a bag? I mean, what exactly are they doing? But hundreds of Palestinian corpses of our people, of our people who were killed by the Israelis, there with no thumbs. Lots of them had all kinds of incisions, wide openings,
Starting point is 00:58:03 some of them were missing organs, which is something that has been discussed quite a bit in the media. Lots of them were missing parts of skin as well, like blocks of skin, which I don't think that the Palestinians have formally accused the Israelis of, but definitely sounds an awful lot like collection of skin grafts for the skin bank. Israel's skin bank. So these are the kinds of things that I saw myself, that I witnessed myself
Starting point is 00:58:32 in that morgue. And I think right now when we look at the total dead, it's clear that we'll never know how many have died. But when you count for the direct war dead, which is all the Palestinians are doing, I think the number is going to end up being 200,000 or so. But I want to just add one other thing. I'm sorry before you of course. Before I end, which is that they're the indirect dead. Also, for example, you know, I have seen little babies who've come in so malnourished and undernourished that they died. And when I saw them, those, the Palestinians refused to count.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I tried. I tried. There was a baby who clearly was malnourished to death by the Israelis, you know, in the sense that they, the Israelis have again been cutting off baby formula. the parents couldn't give the child baby formula. And so we're mixing whatever baby formula they could find in the market with whatever it is that they could give them. And the baby eventually died. And so I tried to record it as a war-related death.
Starting point is 00:59:39 And the ministry came back to me and said, we can't do that. Because, you know, this is not how we count the war-related debt? I was like, how is this not a war-related death? They said, I remember what that particular registrar said to me. He said, you know, Dr. Tata, we're not in a position. where people are going to believe us even with the ones with bullets through their heads. Now, what mind you, the ones who are malnourished to death? And so I think that these, what we in medicine call excess deaths,
Starting point is 01:00:11 are probably going to end up being another couple of hundred thousand. And unfortunately, those will keep dying for years to come. One small example of that, 40% of all the kidney dialysis patients in Gaza died. I'm sure some of them died directly from bombs and from gunshots, but most of them would have died because they didn't have access to proper medical care. Dr. Lubani, how can people support the Glea Project and your work? I know you've been in Gaza for some weeks, some months, if you could just give people a sense of what would be most useful to you and your work,
Starting point is 01:00:50 as well as your colleagues work. I think every doctor ever will tell you the best thing you could do for us is put us out of a job and the occupation, liberate Palestine. Literally, you could do nothing better for Glea than to do that. I want to be a Knafah salesman. I don't want to be a doctor. My grandmother told me that she wanted me sort of tending our olive groves after liberation. I could just be a doctor until then.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I want her dream to come true. All right. But until then, the big things that we're looking for, obviously, if people want to donate their donations, your donations as viewers are really helpful. They are what make a lot of our work possible. We need doctors who are here. We need people who are here. We need to support Palestinians and that all costs money. So donations are very helpful. Medical volunteers are also very useful, especially people who have an understanding of the politics and the need for liberation. Glee is a little bit of a different organization in the sense that we fully understand
Starting point is 01:01:55 that our medical work is only happening because the liberation work hasn't succeeded yet. And so people who kind of have that mindset and are able to approach medicine and the care of our patients with that mindset are very valuable, as obviously so many of your viewers are. So if there are any medical people who are looking to come to Gaza, please reach out. And then the third thing is also just kind of the continued political advocacy, exactly what you're doing. I want to also, I feel like a lot of the time doctors, medical care workers are recognized for the important work that we and they, about my Palestinian colleagues,
Starting point is 01:02:36 do, but people don't recognize the work that people like you do, raising awareness, keeping the issue alive and really putting yourselves in uncomfortable and dangerous positions because as as I've witnessed for you Emma and for your colleagues you know you are constantly under attack and constantly in danger and you do deserve and I say this like I don't know even the English term men gher majamila like anyway I'm gonna jamela I say it without the intent of flattering or anything that truly the work of journalists is so key and so important and so essential. So I hope that your viewers keep talking about what's happening. I hope they support with their words, they support with their actions, they support with
Starting point is 01:03:23 their money, and they support with their lives. Well, I will attempt to take that compliment, Dr. Thubani. Thank you so much. Glea.org. We will put a link wherever people are listening to or watching this. and I look forward to our next conversation, hopefully with some better news on that front, but wishing you so much safety
Starting point is 01:03:47 and sending you love and support from here in New York. We are back, folks. We plugged it, of course, at the end of that interview, but down below, if you can support, if you have any thing to spare, the Glea Project. I'm not even going to plug MR membership today. I would prefer if you have some extra change if you could send it to the Glea Project instead.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Schinglebach says, Emma, I'm so grateful for this interview and I'm so proud of you for keeping it together. Thank you. Ben from Washington, another amazing and extremely powerful interview. Thank you so much for this. Sarah from Texas IDF soldiers cutting off the third. thumbs of slain Palestinians to identify and add them to their database of murder victims as reminiscent of notoriously organized documentation Nazis kept during the Holocaust
Starting point is 01:04:54 despicable. During that portion of the interview, I was thinking about the shoes at the Holocaust Museum and a bunch of, you know, other kind of just tokens that the Nazis kept. Sickle-up economy says, thanks TMR for having Dr. Tarek Lubani on. You folks are relentless in your coverage of Gaza. And I really appreciate it. subscribing to TMR because of this. The media blackout regarding Gaza continues and you're helping to dispel that every day. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:05:24 The media will get to it right after they put some more sign quotes out of context. Yeah. We have Brandon, I believe. Here he is. We're bringing him in. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Hey. How's it going? It's going all right. It's going all right. How's it going on your end? What's happening on the discourse? Well, first I'll say that was a very moving interview that you just had with Dr. Lubani. I was watching it as it was going on.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And so, you know, I know coming in for the fun half on the tail end of that can be a hard pivot. But on my show, we, you know, we've been covering some of the various happenings around like the ceasefire, the pilot rescue narrative that that's being floated by the White House. I don't know what you guys have made of that on this show. for me, I mean, there's no real good explanation for like what occurred. Today we watched Tim Pools, I guess, review of the new animal farm movie. And so...
Starting point is 01:06:23 Oh, yeah. I got a lot of thoughts on that. Yeah, but Matt wants to save it for tomorrow. But maybe we can do it today. Maybe we should do it today. I mean, I feel like I've talked about enough. So if you want to save it for Sam or I guess Sam is out, so... I mean, I did want to make a point on the pilot,
Starting point is 01:06:39 which is that, I mean, I think the thing we all are dancing around, obviously, is that the pilot's name is Jesus H. Christ. And he is. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. No, like, what's his face? Pete Hegs, Pete Heggath as a, Dave Portnore says. Um, like, he said, he said it. He said it in that press conference. He said he was downed on Friday and he rose on Sunday, amongst other miraculous elements of the story. Um, but we all that foreshadowing, folks. Yeah. I need to look more into this and like, uh, because I know that the government's claims, they're definitely not, of course, telling the truth. Of course not. But I want to know what the evidence is to support what people are saying that they think it was a part of a failed operation. Well, I think the interesting part about that is that clearly the cost of executing this
Starting point is 01:07:32 mission was very high, even if we can say that you can't put a cost on human life. And so what some people are saying is that maybe it was a double duty mission, you know, the cover of the rescue provided, like, you know, obfuscation for, like, going in to secure the loose nuclear materials from Isfahan, which went poorly, which is why they're not talking about it. But even if that didn't happen, right? So let's say that that's not what happened. And instead of losing a half a dozen aircraft doing that, we lost it just because they got stuck in the mud in, like, the middle of the Iranian desert.
Starting point is 01:08:08 That still shows, like, the flaw of that plan, right? So it doesn't matter if they actually tried to do it or not. Like the cost was so high for getting this one guy back that that mission would have failed even worse if they had done it. And so in reality, if they didn't do it, that's actually worse for them because they lost like half a billion dollars worth of planes to get like one guy back who also lost like half a billion dollars worth of planes in the first place. And that's in a successful war that we're having where it was a rescue mission and not in like an extraction. shit. But what if he's the Messiah is my question. Are you trying to imply that he's Palestinian? That's why they can't tell us who he is because his name is like, he's clearly Palestinian.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Right. Jesus does not look like we thought the whole blonde, blue-eyed thing. That wasn't what he looked like actually. Huh? A little weird. Also, Jesus didn't need rescuing. That's right. That's right. Right. Oh, but I will say we are only about 600 people away from 20,000 on YouTube. And a lot of people are saying that that's a pretty big number. I don't think so. I think we can do better.
Starting point is 01:09:22 People are saying that? Yes. A new record, 20,000. People are saying no channel has ever gotten to 20,000 subscribers. Many people are saying. I'm the first. And if I'm lucky, I'll be the last. But I need your help. Or I'm pulling out troops from NATO countries.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Oh, yeah, no, that's already in the cars. I'm already pulling troops out of NATO countries as a result. But the only thing that you can choose is where those troops go next, because we got to get them somewhere. We do. Matt, what's happening on Left Reckoning? So, big Left Reckonning news, first of all. Follow me on Instagram at Matt Leck,
Starting point is 01:10:06 but kind of interesting little news on Instagram this month. morning is getting ready to put this up Brian I don't know you can let's sleep at the wheel there a new endorsement has just dropped Hannah Imbinder of hacks comedian has recommended left reckoning as part of the
Starting point is 01:10:25 thing she likes along with their friend and like getting butterflies and you know some other dishes this is not breaking news you've already gotten the plug da da da da I also yeah straight out of the press I love butterflies but I love butterflies
Starting point is 01:10:39 too. I saw a moth, which is a type of like, you know, lepidoptera the other week that was like, that was mimicking a hummingbird. And it was beautiful. Wow. Wow. I was just thinking about life now. So Matt got a big plug for Leffreckoning. Now what's happening on Leffreckoning, my friend?
Starting point is 01:11:03 We had a very good show actually this week where I lost my temper at the bulwark for their encouraging. this Hassan panic that like A-PAC and third way decided we need to all be talking about as we are at war with Iran. So I think it's a little bit ridiculous. And I talk about why you shouldn't think you're getting anything nutritious from the bulwark, even going back to my time listening to National Review podcasts in like 2014, thinking I'm getting some kind of informational and some knowledge advantage through that.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Are you wasting your life? Go donate. Go volunteer for something. Instead of listening to former Republicans talk about what the Democrats should do. But if you need more evidence of that and want to see somebody tee off on the bulwark some more, go check that out. Patreon.com. Just left reckoning. The show was live on Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:11:53 We don't have Matt Binder today, but of course, everybody check out leftist mafia and all that he has been working on. Best wishes to the family. Yes, exactly. All right, folks, we will see you in the fun half. Okay, Emma, please. Well, I just, I feel that my voice is sorely lacking on the majority report. Wait, what? Look, Sam is unpopular.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I do deserve a vacation at Disney World. So, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show. It is Thursday. I think you need to take over for Sam. Yes, please. Sir, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pause you right there. Wait, what? You can't encourage Emma to live like this.
Starting point is 01:12:35 And I'll tell you why. So it's offered a twerk, sushi, and poker with the boys. Twirp, sushi, and sushi and poker. Bids. I just think that what you did to Tim Poole was mean. Free speech. That's not what we're about here. Look at how sad he's become now.
Starting point is 01:13:13 You shouldn't even talk about it because I think you're responsible. I probably am in a certain way, but let's get to the meltdown here. Twerk. Ugh. Sushi and bowl. Sushi. I'm sorry, I'm losing my fucking mind. Someone's offered a twirp.
Starting point is 01:13:27 A little kid. A little kid. A little care. A little care. You just don't understand. I'm not trying to be a dick right now, but, like, I absolutely think the U.S. should be providing me with a wife and kids. That's not what we're talking about here. It's not a fun job.
Starting point is 01:14:01 It's a real thing. That's a real thing. Willie Walker. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. The way to the world on the shoulders. It was so much easier.
Starting point is 01:14:51 It was so much easier when the majority report was just you. Let's change the subject. Rangers and Nick are going right. Now, shut up. Don't want people saying reckless things on your program. That's one of the most difficult parts of this show. This is a pro-killing podcast. I'm thinking maybe it's time we bury the hatchet.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Left is best. Trump. Violet twirl. You are to. A great. A great. A incredible theme song. I Bumbler.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Emma Viglin. Absolutely one of my favorite people. Actually, not just in the game. Like, period.

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