The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3628 - Progressive Fighters; ICE Detention Scam w/ Chris Rabb, Katie Blankenship, Lindsey Boylan

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

Welcome back to The Majority Report   On today's program:   Virginia voters narrowly vote to approve to redistrict the state which could result in flipping 4 house seats for Democrats.   Chris Rabb, who is a DSA-backed candidate running for Pennsylvania's 3rd district joins Sam to discuss his platform and campaign. Check out chrisrabb.com to learn more and find ways to support Chris.   Katie Blankenship, an immigration attorney from Sanctuary of the South, a grassroots legal services organization that provides critical, affordable legal defense to immigrant families affected by detention, deportation, and abuse, joins Sam to discuss abuses at the Alligator Alcatraz ICE detention center in Florida. To find resources or ways to help those targeted by ICE in your area you can visit Freedom for immigrants, American Immigration Council or visit the ACLU to find your local affiliate.   Lindsey Boylan, a candidate for New York City Council's 3rd district backed by Mayor Mamdani. For more on Lindsey's campaign check out Lindsey for NYC.   In the Fun Half:   Kash Patel is in a lot of hot water over his recent allegations of drinking and partying during his tenure as director of the FBI. Seems like his job is on thin ice.   Tim Pool is an idiot and that is very much exemplified in his discussion on the Virginia redistricting. Turns out his take on gerrymandering was very different when Texas did it for republicans.   All that and more.   To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: ZOCDOC: Go to Zocdoc.com/MAJORITY and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor. AURA FRAMES: Exclusive $25-off Carver Mat at AuraFrames.com/MAJORITY. Promo Code MAJORITY BLUELAND: get up to 30% off at Blueland.com/MAJORITY. SUNSET LAKE CBD: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.

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This is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal. Steps away. Steps away from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Chris Robb running for the Democratic nomination in Pennsylvania's third congressional district. Also on the program today, Katie Blankenship, immigration attorney from Florida on alligator Alcatraz, And then Lindsay Boylan running for city council in New York City. We had on this program months ago in support of Zoran Mamdani.

Also on the program, Trump Tacos extends the Iran deadline indefinitely, at least the one that was due yesterday. But he also had decreed another deadline for today, but no word on that one. Meanwhile, Iran showing their respect to Donald Trump used their non-existent Navy to seize two container ships in the Strait of Hormuz, which it does not control. In Virginia, voters vote to undo prior redistricting, gaining Democrats for congressional seats. The voterrama begins on the Republican reconciliation bill. They're hoping will fund ICE. Democratic Rep. Trefilius McCormick resigns just prior to

health ethics sanctioning. The Southern Poverty Law Center has been targeted by the DOJ for supposed fraud, which involved them paying informants in its reporting of right-wing extremist groups. Notorious right-wing

Fifth Circuit Court rules that Texas can require public schools to display the Ten Commandments. Britain to roll out a ban on tobacco cigarettes for everyone born in 2009 and later. Trump's Fed chair nominee refuses to answer who won the 2020 election. Meanwhile, Republican Tom Tillis to block the nomination until the jury, Rome Powell investigation ends. The Iran war now causing Europe to have a jet fuel shortage as major airlines begin to cancel thousands of flights.

And tragically, Alan Dershowitz has registered as a Republican. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Emma Viglin out today. Thanks for joining us on what, I don't know. Wednesday, I don't even feel like Humpty anymore because it just all feels like it's just, we're up with plateaued in the valley. I thought it was Friday this morning.

I know. The week has felt so long. I thought, yeah, I thought yesterday was Thursday. I got a ticket from street cleaning. That's how off I am right now. That is. That is impressive, actually, because you never do that. One of the things that I think we are, you know, when we're looking for the silver lining, as it were,

Donald Trump has definitely attempted to have an authoritarian government in many respects. certainly, and it's a spectrum, it's a, it's a, it's a spectrum. Our government has become far more authoritarian under Donald Trump than it ever has in the past. And certainly, as a, in a, as a clinical analysis, Donald Trump is an authoritarian figure. And there's about Bob Altamire famously, whose work was featured in John Dean's, book in 2005. I can't remember exactly what the name of it was now. But he was a professor from the University of Manitoba, and they had done clinical work up there and found that 25% of North Americans are right-wing authoritarians. And certainly, Donald Trump has his authoritarian

followers. They have been very successful at destroying and degrading our government, agencies that you never knew were doing things that protected you, protected workers' rights, protected consumer rights, protected our rights as citizens. It's going to take years for us to really feel the impact of these things and even longer to rebuild them. But in the other hand, Donald Trump has been foiled largely by his own stupidity. And, and I say that, you know, with the full knowledge that you've got people like Russell vote, who I think are quite genius, evil geniuses.

But Donald Trump is, he's, I think, you know, I don't want to say insane. I don't know what the clinical term is. But he's, he's off and he's not very bright. And because of that and because of pushback from Democrats, and a growing progressive Democratic base that wants the Democratic Party to fight, a lot of their plans have gone sideways. Here is Fox News reporting on one of those plans last night.

Redistricting measure, which could give Democrats an advantage heading into the midterms, and a big one at that. With former President Barack Obama writing on X, quote, congratulations, Virginia. Republicans are trying to tilt the midterm elections. in their favor, but they haven't done it yet. Thanks for showing us what it looks like to stand up for our democracy and fight back. Our next guest lives in Virginia. Defending Education founder, Nikki Neely, joins me now. Nikki, thank you so much for joining us on this. One of the notable

things about this is that this was narrowly passed in Virginia, 51.5 to 48.5, but it's going to have a major implication when it comes to the congressional map. I mean, it will change it drastically. Could give Democrats 10 seats to Republicans one. So as a Virginia resident yourself, what do you think about this? This is sickening. You know, Virginia. Okay, we're done. We don't need to see more. The Republicans started out, I should say, Donald Trump started out his administration about a year ago, saying that he wants Texas to do redistricting mid-census. We redistrict every 10 years because we see changes in population and so we need to adjust.

There has always been gerrymandering. In 2010, the godfather of Republican gerrymandering, he's since passed away, but all of his documents were actually found by his estranged daughter during the first Trump administration when they were trying to jerryig the census.

They started using computers and they were able to redistrict down to the voter. Thomas Hofeller, you're talking about. Thomas Hofeller is who you're talking about. Yes, Hofeller. And they were able to redistrict down to the voter and begin to basically launch the next generation of gerrymandering. For years, we saw all this in Wisconsin, where it would take Democrats to have to win 65% of the votes to get 51% of the representation in the statehouse.

Donald Trump launched the next round of redistricting, a gerrymandering in literally ordering Texas to find five more congressional seats. And Texas did that. But what he did not count on was that much of Republican gerrymandering has already taken place. So there's only so much of blood you can squeeze out of that stone. But Democrats largely had not done that. There's an argument of a couple of seats in Illinois and Maryland, but I mean, gerrymandering exists without a doubt. But they had not done it to the degree that Republicans, well, now they have. They did it in California.

They just did it in Virginia and they're going to pick up four more seats. Our politics have become far more nationalized than they were in the past. Let's let, what's his name, Waters? Jesse Waters had the last word on this. Fox News Alert, according to the AP, vote. voters in Virginia have approved Democrats' plan to gerrymander congressional districts 50 to 49. This could flip four House seats from Republican control to Democrats. There you go.

It will. It will, certainly this year. Now, the Virginia gerrymander is a temporary one. When the next census happens, it will revert back to the independent, commission they had and that will then do it in a less gerrymandered way. But make no mistake. Virginia just gerrymandered. But that's because they responded. And it really, Republican Supreme Court says this is okay now, which of course people were fighting against for years, but hoisted on their own partard. In a moment, we're going to be talking. to Chris Rob,

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Emma Viglin out today. It is a pleasure to sort of welcome back to the program I just found out. Chris Robb, he is, Chris Rap, I should say. He is running for Pennsylvania's third congressional district. And Chris, you just reminded me that you were on breakroom live with Mark Marin and I, 20 years ago or so, you were a blogger back in that day. And it seems to me, you know, just when I've read about and followed your campaign, that that spirit that we had back in that era in terms of like saying that the Democratic Party's way of doing things is antiquated.

It's even more antiquated now, sadly, but you're running for that same type of change. Absolutely. It is a serious progression from the time when I was a political blogger. The blog I had was Afro-Nedizen. It reached predominantly black readership across the country. And I was covering the 2004 Democratic and Republican conventions. And it was we were the first bloggers to be credentialed in the press corps. And so it was a big deal. And we were talking about new media. This was before social media, before, Insta, all these things. And as a result, it created a lot of conversations about what does participatory journalism look like? How do we hold corporate media to account? And how do we hold the political establishment, particularly the Democratic Party, as we wrestled with what does progressivism look like and how does, how do those on the outside influence what's happening on the inside? And so you're running in a district. There's about four or five other candidates, at least two or two other like sort of like a prominent ones.

They are both sort of like ranging from Democratic establishment to just positions that are like the Democratic establishment. It characterized the race for me because I also have to say what I found really surprising was that in this past quarter, in terms of fundraising, you know, you dramatically outrose the other candidates, which was shocking to me because you're not the Democratic establishment preferred candidate. Right. Right. Well, you can't buy enthusiasm. Right.

And so the people who are funding my campaign are regular folks who want a bonus rep in Congress. So 50% of my donors are from out of state. But I have more Philly donors than every candidate combined. I have more small donors than any candidate. all candidates combined, and I don't take corporate PAC money, which is one of the reasons regular people are giving because there's this trope that in order to be a viable Democratic candidate, you have to take corporate PAC money, you have to sell out. And I am killing that narrative because it's not true. And in fact, when people see themselves in these campaigns,

they're more likely to give. They're more likely to volunteer. So my campaign is fueled by hundreds of volunteers and a level of young people that is like Zoron level. I mean, I'm running for a district that's around 750,000 versus a massive city like New York, but it's the same vibe. People are seeing what's happening around the country and they want to bring that to Philly because this district is the bluest congressional district in the nation. It's number one out of 435. And it's the first time in 35 years that there's an open seat, so I don't have to unseat an incumbent in order to win, and unlike so many other primaries, I'm the only progressive in the race. So there's two establishment-connected candidates who are running for the same votes, where there's a

clear lane for me for young voters, disaffected Democrats, new voters, progressive voters, and my base, which is black super voters, because I currently represent a majority black, mixed income legislative district in the Pennsylvania legislature for the past 10 years. This is, and I'm glad you mentioned that about the district being the bluest in the country. I didn't realize it was the bluest in the country, but the point being that the primary is essentially the general election. There are no Republicans on the, there are no Republicans on. Oh, I didn't realize there wasn't even anybody running.

I just found out yesterday. Okay. And so this is, this is the general. election and when we think about the bluest districts in the country, they should be represented by a, the most progressive, most to the left, the most democratic Democrat that you can get. And it seems to me that across the board, in terms of just like sheer representation, both from a national perspective, and, you know, there's no polling data. say on your particular district on issues, or at least that I'm aware of. But just on the

question of our policy towards Gaza, this is a stark difference that came out at your candidate form, I guess the other night or so, where there was a refusal. I mean, the idea that we can't be critical of Israel because we should be concerned about hurting the Israelis feelings seems to me, I feel like we're a little past that point. Just talk about that a little bit. Yeah. This is really hard to process because it's so problematic on so many levels. But one of my opponents accused me of yelling genocide from the rooftops and how that is deeply offensive and that she assigns it to the N-word. And this is this is a fellow black Democrat running for office. And in one moment, she offended black people and Jewish people on the

right side of the issue and everyone else who understands what genocide is. And a part of that has a lot to do with how these campaigns are funded. Right. So I can speak freely because my biggest donor, Sam, is my mommy. All right? Literally. That's important. Like my average donation is $100, $118, hers is closer to $800. And she and my other opponents are only getting money from wealthy insiders and benefiting from dark money super PACs that are connected to APAC. And so that's why neither of them, one of whom is Muslim, will not talk about these issues. yes, I'm the only candidate who will acknowledge the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

They will talk around it. They will talk about war crimes. They'll talk about humanitarian aid, ceasefire, but they cannot say genocide. And I think it's important for people to understand that if you are compromised as a candidate and you cannot say oligarchy, patriarchy, systemic racism, you can't say, if you can't even say the words, how are you going to do the thing in Congress when that's what? but people want to hold us to account to address. I think that has become the, aside from like the fact that the majority of Democrats in the country now have the same perception of what's going on.

Because I mean, it's frankly the reality of it. But I think the reason why that has become such a litmus test in these races is exactly as you say. Because it's indicative of who can be born. and who is willing to get in front of people and deny reality for their funding. And that's a real problem with our entire political system, but particularly, you know, for your congressperson, because you want that person, you know, I voted for politicians who I don't agree with on issue, but you want that person to be able to articulate reality. If they can't say the sun is shining when they walk out the door at 1 p.m. in the afternoon,

you can't rely on them for anything. That's precisely right. So on this campaign trail, and I've been running since July, when I meet young people in particular, and they've never heard of me, I tell them my positions, you know, I show my energy and all of that. I're like, great, but how do I know you're not the next F word? And the F word in Pennsylvania is Fetterman. how do I know you're not the next fetterman because they he broke people's hearts there were so many people who were on board because they believed the cosplay that he did so well as a progressive when in fact he never really was and so I say to them you have an absolute right to be skeptical of folks running for office who you who have not yet earned your trust I said but the difference between a fetterman and me is that I've had 10 years years in the legislature. I've taken thousands of votes. I've introduced hundreds of bills.

I've my, where I stand on issues has been documented for actually well over a decade since I was a political blogger and I talked about where I stood on issues going back 25 years. Opeds. I wrote a book in 2010 talking about structural inequality and entrepreneurship. So I have receipts. He has tweets. Those aren't enough. Just because you control Donald Trump and whomever does not. mean you know how to lead or govern or do the people's work. And so that tends to get people on board. But young people, to your point, have said, the first thing they say is, where are you on Gaza? And they're pleasantly surprised when I say, we need a free Palestine. We need to end sending money to Israel. We need to do all those things. They're like, okay, check. And then they say,

where are you on ice? And I said, well, we have to abolish ice, but that's just the starting point, we also have to dismantle the immigrant concentration camps that exist, which were created with bipartisan complicity. This all was spawned even before, after 9-11, this was spawned under Clinton's administration when he basically criminalized Brown immigration in 1996, and we have to take our lumps. So it's one thing to fight Donald Trump. That's easy. Fighting Agent Orange, it's fun. He's such a great villain.

But we also have to hold our own party to account. And I am not accountable to my party. I'm accountable to the people who I seek to represent in Congress. You are just some what you write as core guarantees on your platform. You're talking about you support Medicare for all. obviously protect reproductive freedom. Tell me about your housing first model. Yeah.

Look, we have everything we need to house everyone. We do not need to have this housing crisis that is facilitated by private equity and private real estate developers. We need to invest a trillion dollars to make sure we have 12 million new homes. We need to repair the ones that people are living in now, and we have to hold housing as a human right. And I understand for a lot of people saying, oh, that's pie in the sky, that's bold. You're pandering to folks who don't are not really grounded in reality. But reality is, somehow we have money to send to Iran, to bomb civilians. We always have money for endless war.

And yet the things that are considered radical in the United States are considered banal in other industrialized nations. So sending someone from the bluest congressional district in the nation to just affirm and advocate for certain things being basic rights and needs that are taken care of by our government seems like the appropriate thing to do right now. It's in the midst of the greatest adversity where we have to find the greatest light to guide us to a path where we can have these things. people thought Obamacare couldn't happen. And it didn't happen with any Republican votes, right? But even that was negotiating against ourselves. We could have had a, we're not going to go over that again. Oh, you and I remember the Joe Lieberman?

Yes. We can do Medicare for all. And I'm proud to say that Congresswoman Jaya Paul, who introduced that bill in the House, endorsed me. I think we have to, in these moments, acknowledge that we can walk and chew gum at the same time. and understand we can restore cuts that were made in the Trump administration. But we also have a post-Trump agenda that is not about going back to normal, because normal never really helped working people and communities of struggle.

They were struggling long before the pandemic. So what is a transformative vision of our nation when we needed the most? If we're only starting to talk about it, after some aggressively mediocre Democrat, follows Donald Trump. We've lost. We've lost. We've lost. We've got to do that work now. Chris, I love what you're saying. And just the idea that the bluest district in the country should have the most progressive candidate in the race. I mean, it just seems like a no-brainer to me. And I just heard, too, that you were endorsed by the Philadelphia Inquirer. That's awesome. Congratulations on that. So there's real momentum here behind your campaign.

When is the primary? May 19th. So we are just weeks away. What could our audience do? Obviously, people can go to your website, which is... Chrisrab.com. Chrisrabb.com. That's two Bs.

And people who are, you know, from across the country, I suppose, can support you by sending donations. But what about getting people on? the ground. I assume you're looking for volunteers. Absolutely. So if you go to Chrisrabb.com, that's RABB, chrisrabb.com, you can volunteer remotely. So if you know people in Philly, you don't have to come to Philly, you can actually reach out to those folks. And we can train you how to do that in webinars that we have so that you can stay home in your bunny slippers, watching TV or whatever, and reach out to the folks in your phone who are eligible,

voters, because in Pennsylvania, only registered Democrats can vote in the Democratic primary on May 19th. We also want to make sure that we lift up this campaign, because look, this is a national race. If people need to remember that bad politicians are elected by good people who don't vote. And so they have to see themselves in these races. I'm not just running to support the 760,000 fellow Philadelphians here in this district. I'm running to be your next bonus rep. We need good folks. We need more public servants, Sam, and fewer politicians.

And that's an important distinction because politicians are folks who serve themselves and moneyed interests. Public servants are people who serve the people and the public good. And those are very different types of elected officials. So if you care about the future of our country, you care to make sure that when we take back the house in November, that we know how to lead and listen to the people on the ground and people closest to the pain to do the type of work that folks have been wanting for a really long time. And that means investing in candidates like me who originally were not considered viable. But now, you know, I'm tied for first place. I'm raising more money than folks who are getting support from APEC and from establishment insiders.

This is our time to organize and we need your help across the country. Chris Rab, so great to talk to you again. I hope that I talk to you sooner than 20 years from now. And I hope it's much sooner. And I hope that you have become the next representative of Pennsylvania's third. district. Really appreciate your time today. Good luck. We will put a link to chrisrabb.com at majority.fm and in the podcast and YouTube description. Good luck. And we're looking forward to just a couple of weeks away. That's right. Thanks so much, Sam. All right. Great to see you.

All right, folks. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, Chris Rab had mentioned the detention centers around the country. Our next guest is an attorney. We're a turn. from Sanctuary of the South. It's a grassroots legal service that provides legal defense to immigrant families affected by detention. And specifically, she's got clients down at Alligator Alcatraz. We'll be right back after this. We are back, Sam Cedar, on the majority report, Emma Viglin out today. Pleasure to welcome to the program, Katie Blankenship.

She's an immigration attorney from Sanctuary of the South, a grassroots legal service. service organization that provides representation, representation and support and consult to immigrant families who are all under siege now. We are a year and a half more, I guess a year and a half or so into the Trump administration. I think people are certainly aware of the immigrant onslaught. I mean, it's various forms. But you have had a lot of work with the detention side of it. Obviously, as an immigration attorney, you're going to see that. Just give us a brief overview of that end of things. And we'll get to the sort of the roving bands of ice and CPB. But the detention side, I think, is one that is less publicized. Yeah. I mean, that's a great way to start. And Sam, it's great to be with you.

Thank you so much for covering it. Yeah, you know, that's actually the problem, really, of where we start, that the public has not understood the detention crisis that's existed well before Donald Trump. This has been a broken and abusive system since its creation. Now, Donald Trump has- When was that created? Chris Rab, we just had a guest on who's running from congressional district in third. and he said, you know, we're going back to the Clinton years where a lot of these detention centers were set up and almost the advent of private prison complex. That's exactly right. So I think if I think if memory serves, we started opening ICE detention centers in the late 80s at some point. I mean, this is a new thing, right?

You and I have both been on the planet before ICE detention centers. but they took off quite literally because of the money that is inherent in them. You know, we talk about following the money in the private prison complexes. That applies to immigration. Geo-group, Core Civic, they're laughing all the way to the bank with the Trump administration. But it's not just them. There is money flowing to all of these vendors, whether it's an ICE facility or what's called an intergovernmental services agreement, like when a county runs it, everybody's getting rich

off these detention centers and their facilities of human citizens. suffering. People who are supposedly providing the food, phone calls, whatever it is. I mean, I distinctly remember, and people can go back, I'm sure, and find this with an easy search, around 2010, maybe it was, you could go into the shareholder meetings, and these places like, like you say, Geo Group and Core Civic, they were saying to the, Corr Civic, they were saying to their shareholders, we project our profits in the future to be out of like civil prisoners, or I guess prisoners, you know, citizen prisoners, and move into the immigration space. I mean, so it gives you a sense of like the, I mean, I was just like wondering, like,

how could they project at that time? And this may be outside of your portfolio as somebody who's dealing with it where the rubber meets the road. Yeah, on the ground, sure. But, like, how did they know? Right? Like, in 2010, like, how did they know? Now, maybe they got those signals from Obama,

because Obama certainly was deporting a lot of people. I don't know how much he was growing the detention part of it. But they certainly, they were out there spending millions to make sure that this type of situation showed up. Yeah. And let's put it in perspective for all your listeners, right? American taxpayers are paying approximately $200 a day per person. The most recent quote of the people in ICE attention right now is 70,000.

When we started this when we were in the Biden years, right? Even in the first Trump administration, that number usually hangs around 13,000. I mean, like 20,000 was a lot. We're at a place of exponential growth in hugely abusive centers that's going straight to the pockets of, you know, our 1%. But how did they know? There are several things that are happening, right? One, frankly, the American system has figured out that carceral systems are highly profitable for a long time. They're taking their lead from the criminal justice system.

Two, as soon as we started opening detention centers, as soon as we have the emergence of ice, you know, people need to understand ice is new. When we talk about abolish ice, it's not that radical. They haven't been around that long and they screwed it up horribly. So get rid of them. Like you and I, again, we were teenagers when ICE was created. Well, sadly, I was a little bit older than that, but you may have been. I was but a mere babe. Yes, I, on the other hand, was over well into my 30s.

But go ahead. Well, all right, so we're talking around 2003-ish, right, when Congress makes the first allotment to ICE. Well, what does that tell everybody that's in the business of incarcerated systems, and where is that budget gone? That initial budget was around $3 million. We're looking at $45 million from the big, beautiful. beautiful bill and where that money is going, that money is going to those who profit off incarcerating human beings. And you mentioned civil detention, Sam. That's a huge piece. I have so many people who don't understand the system because the anti-immigrant propaganda

machine started to be able to fuel these sinners, right? And so what do people say in response to me when they see this picture of my client beaten half to death? Oh, he's a criminal. Send him back to where he's from. He's not in criminal custody, friends. This is civil detention. We, will you explain that difference to people so they really understand? Because I've been saying for years, and I think we are still there in terms of the law, that entering this country illegally, I should say, without documentation, or overstaying a visa is not a criminal offense. It is the functional equivalent of a speeding ticket. And really, like, you know, depending on how.

how much you're speeding. To cross without inspection is quite literally a Class B misdemeanor. The most time you could ever do that nobody judge will ever even grant time on it is six months. A Class B misdemeanor is like public intoxication is the worst you could think of for this sort of offense, right? And plus, it's not even the issue, right? When we talk about the difference of criminal and civil detention, it's critical. for people to understand who are these human beings that are detained. Yes, some people may have a criminal record, and they are going through the process of dealing

with that in their immigration case. They have served their time or they've been there to plea, whatever it may be. Everything that had to do with their criminal stuff is done and gone. They're not here for any criminal charge. Plus, this idea, you know, Trump's people love to say, we're going to detain the worst of the worst that is so inhumane and categorizes human beings that are applying for asylum. I have tons of clients who are simple asylum seekers. I have folks getting picked up and detained today with work permission, with driver's license,

with social security cards, right? We're talking about members of the community, period, end of story. They're your neighbors. I want to talk about the brutality that has been going on in these detention centers. But just to put a point on this, when we talk about because there's obviously been for a long time a certain amount of xenophobia that has been in this country for, you know, since its founding, whether it was about Chinese or Irish or Italian or Japanese or Mexican, whatever it was. Sure. This has been exacerbated because there is so much money to be made in this, you know, in 2005, George W. Bush and wanted to essentially bring Latinos into the Republican Party and was looking to do immigration reform.

And there was a lot of people who made money, whether it was Mark Levin and Laura Ingram in particular and Ann Coulter. Just look at Miami, the first, what we call the first wave, right? Of Cuban immigrants fleeing from the revolution, that was a huge move from the Republican Party of trying to sign up. Latino voters, specifically Cuban voters, and look at the success. They were successful. Incredibly successful. And George Bush and Carl Rove knew this was the future of the country. But they were stopped by sort of like the movement conservatives.

and that takes us to Tom Holman getting a bag. Now, I should say this is only the FBI. So I don't know. I'm just going by what the FBI reported. A bag from a fast food restaurant that was full of, maybe it wasn't full. I don't know what the size of the bag was or, you know, what bills were, $50,000 from someone. don't know who, but we know their ilk, is someone looking for a contract from DHS, presumably

either for a detention facility or many detention facilities, or maybe just to serve, you know, the meals at a detention facility, or provide the phone service or whatever it is. We're going to wash the linens at them. And he got $50,000 cash. basically on the promise of like if I get into Homeland Security, which of course at that time he was being touted as being the guy from CBB or from Homeland Security. And it gives us a sense of like this is a racket.

And people are making, all right. So tell us about. Let me give you one more example now for people like take to, you know, look this up. This is all stuff that is easily at our fingertips, right? So people have probably seen in the news the effort by the Trump administration to open human warehouses. They call them warehouses. They want to Amazon basically ICE detention. So there's already been some investigative work in looking at those contracts and the spaces that they're purchasing. I think one example was a space was purchased three to four years ago, this is in northern Florida for around $20 million.

Okay. The government comes along and purchases it 24 months later for $180 million. right like that's what we're talking about and who's his buddy who owns that right i mean come on this is how he made his money in real estate i bet he donated to the trump administration i bet they donated to the desantis administration and that takes you out to the everglades which we'll talk about and the just atrocities happening out there in the everglades if you look at the contracts of those facilities because it's quote-unquote state run which the whole other basket of you know That's a whole other kettle of fish. But those contractors, most of them are not showing experience actually in the carceral system.

And if you look at the corporate records of where they donated, they're sending buckets of money to DeSantis. I have no doubt. I bet they're contributing to some, their buying shares in Trump meme coins. Or, I mean, this is such a racket. But the worst part of it, aside from the fact that it's a fleecing is the human suffering that is generating these profits for people. Tell us about your experience with that. Well, I've been in these centers for a long time predating Donald Trump.

And like I said, this has always been a system that we have been fighting. You know, I've been an abolitionist of ICE detention since starting this work for very good reason. but what we're seeing now is a true human rights crisis. So more people have died in ICE custody and the Trump administration than we have record of a president. And we're talking about a year and a half, all right? I have clients who have died in ICE detention. And when I look at the medical records and see what happened to my clients,

it is atrocious. It is gross medical neglect. I have a client who sees, seized out in his dorm, having a massive seizure. They said he looks drunk and left him alone and did not get him to emergency services for another four and a half hours. He was brain dead when they took him to the hospital. He was 44 years old, fleeing the war in Ukraine.

Now, and then you talk about the overall inhumane conditions and treatment. So again, going out to the Everglades, I will not call that place what they call it, Alligator Alcatraz because it's disgusting. It is the Everglades internment camp, and it is an absolutely abusive center that is operating with impunity and abusing people. I just had released and filed a declaration in a case about this facility that's around First Amendment access to counsel and showed the court the beatings that my clients took for absolutely, you know, there's no reason to beat anyone ever, but completely unprovoked regardless.

People are crammed in to literal cages. The facilities are disgusting. The toilets overflow. They live among sewage. They're giving fed portions of food that multiple clients tell me, Katie, it looks like what you serve a baby in a baby jar. They're losing weight just pounds by the day. And they institute a level of corporal punishment that I think most Americans wouldn't

believe happens on our soil, and it is happening. They're taking people outside the Everglades. putting them into shackles and leaving them in the sun as punishment without access to food and water and just saying stand there shackled. And the everclades, Sam, with the mosquitoes, with the conditions, with the heat, I mean, it's really atrocious. And my client that I had shared with the court and that was released in the press, when they took him out and beat him so severely in the picture that you may have saw, that you may have seen, excuse me, you know, I talked to him eight days later, and he looks like that.

He didn't get medical care. And right now, as we are speaking, he is sitting in what they call the box. They only took him to, they took him straight to solitary for no reason, which is a two by two meter cage. And when he came to me last Friday, he said, I have to sit for a minute because I'm too dizzy. I haven't seen the sun in eight days. Are the, and I think this is the thing that people don't understand that this system of detention, And I think we maybe explained it in terms of like the money that's being made there. Are they, are your clients, because I've heard stories of clients who have every legal right to be in this country.

They've either have work permits, they have, or they're in line for citizenship or whatever it is. But they get thrown into these. They're in detention center and they're just like, this is just, this is torture. I'm literally being tortured. and I'm going to just go to them and say, I want to deport. And I've heard stories where they're not even letting people do that, to self-deport. So we haven't even gotten to the actual immigration court system in detention, right? So most detention, what most people who are in detention, they go to court, it's a court in a detention center.

And what has happened to the immigration space in court is a whole, other level of torture. So we started the Trump administration with the Lake and Riley Act, right? The Lake and Riley Act was an attempt to lock up as many, many, many people as possible, regardless of what the background of the charge, you didn't have to have probable cause. It was just like, if anybody's ever mentioned you did X, Y, Z crime, you go to detention, you can't leave. You're, you're mandatorily detained. Then they killed humanitarian parole. There's only two ways you can get out of ICE detention typically when your case is pending. Humanitarian parole from ICE or bond from an IJ, an immigration judge, right?

Humanitarian parole has been an option for immigrants in detention since detention centers started. Trump killed it. It doesn't exist. They will not grant it. I've had people in their deathbed. They won't grant it. Bond destroyed. They killed Bond. There's a case called Yehurti Hahtado from the BIA that says the only people that are eligible for bond are those that were on a visa and overstated and had no other infraction for the time they were here. That is millions, millions of people that would previously be bond eligible. So the system right now is intended to keep them there. Keep them there, keep them there, keep them there.

And why do we think that is? Because the conversation we just had, because the longer they're there, $200 a day, just keep it in your head, right? $200,000. I mean, that's somebody who's good at math. What is that? like 1.5 or is that 15 million a day? It's just astonishing. I'd love to have you back on.

We can talk more about this. But so what can be done at this point? Like, I mean, or I should say, what we saw in Minnesota, it obviously sort of like made it harder for ice to be in urban centers where there is a higher concentration of media. I've talked to reporters who say like in the rural areas, ice is still working. They're still out there. These people have not gone away. And so the problem is let maybe slightly less intense out there because there's only so many people, you know,

without the density, it's harder for them to arrest at the same rates they were doing before. Well, we have to consider thousands and thousands of people in the United States and hiding, too, that have seen this. Yes. I mean, there are families living like it's like extreme COVID again, right? That's how they're living. I mean, it's like it's Anne Frank. You know, we've been talking to people in Minneapolis who are like, this is like an Anne Frank situation where we have families hiding other families in their homes. they don't leave because they can't go to work.

They can't go to school. On the back end, though, like I've seen, you know, and I think we've talked to a couple of people who have organized against the purchase of a warehouse for a detention center, and we're hearing more and more about pushback and seeing some successes. Yes, and seeing some success. But it does feel like it's, you know,

a couple of small victories in this sort of like almost this tidal wave that's coming in. Yeah. What else from your perspective can be done on this back? I mean, like, we just saw in Florida, the Fifth Circuit, notoriously right-wing court, deem that the federal government somehow had no involvement in the establishment of the Everglades and Termin Camp, which of course is absurd. I mean, on its face, it's absurd.

It would not exist, but for the federal. government saying build an internment camp here. They're in federal custody. Give me a break. I mean, it's absurd. And so in red states, it becomes that much harder.

I would imagine because the political will is we want to lock these people up. But from your perspective, like, at an outside and I can't encourage people enough to support an organization like yours. There are many.

You know, because obviously, you know, God know, having known a, knowing a couple of immigration attorneys, it's like, it's like triage of what's going on now in a war zone. And so what else can we do? Like hearing this, what else can we do? Obviously, you know, we'll put a link to Sanctuary the South and we can feature others. What else can we do? Yeah. So, I mean, one, I think there are major, major lessons and hope to be gleaned from Minnesota. You know, one of the warehouses you're talking about that's been prevented is in Florida.

That's crazy. That's Florida coming out and showing that the citizens of Florida do not align with the DeSantis philosophy and the Trump philosophy. So we have real roadmap of saying that resistance can work. But the reality that people need to understand is that Trump started with immigration and this authoritarian surge for a reason. Because one, it's primed already. We've already talked about why. Abusive system, highly profitable, et cetera, right? But the other thing is he has complete control here.

The immigration system is under the executive. So you have to understand. He really gets to, in large measure, go forward as he desires. So it's very hard legally to push back holistically, right? So we have to take the fight to the street as we have. We have to continue pushing where you are in your communities, find people who are organizing, support your communities, and figure out a way to get involved.

I guarantee you that there are people that are involved. Reach out to us if you need connections. But we also have to understand that what we're seeing and what we're doing now is laying a framework for the future. We will be at a point where we're past the Trump administration. all we may all be so exhausted we can't stand by then but it will happen and generations will come behind us

and by getting the public engaged in this issue in what has been an abusive immigration system into a complete humanitarian crisis under the Trump regime we can change the system we can defund ice we can abolish ICE we can change the tensions there's we can shut them down so we have to keep this pressure up And then the last thing I'd say is absolutely, yes, you've got to figure out where to support folks. So one of the things that's happening for, you know, firms, organizations like mine for serving people in detention, the people in detention are squeezed in every way.

They are targeted. So the breadwinners of families are detained or in hiding. So expecting them to figure out in this crisis while they're targeted to just, you know, find any funds they can is near impossible. So people are just dying inside for legal representation. So help them fund that legal representation. We have clients that will sometimes be, you know, work with the church. A local community gets together and funds somebody's habeas case, right, to get them out. So there are ways to support.

And the last thing I would say is that it's really critical for people to understand who have been involved in this issue of what is happening in a nonprofit immigration space. So Sanctuary of the South is very intentional. not a 501c3 because we started this knowing that the immigration non-profits are going to come under major attack. Most have received cease and desist letters. Most have been defunded. You may have seen the SPLC just as it died. Right?

And so we've done this very intentionally and we're not, you know, this is becoming something that people are expecting and filling a desperate gap. So give to these organizations, right? SOS does pro bono and low bono work. That means we do reduce rates on payment plans. We do everything to work with people. And so we need support. We rely on community support for that. So check us out.

Go to our GoFundMe. It's on the website. And there are other folks in your community doing this work. And we need folks to just get out from the screen and get involved. Is there a clearinghouse site that gives us a sense of like different regional organizations like yours? Yeah, so there's a few resources that I think people should reach out to to find what's going on in your community and firms and organizations like mine.

Look for your ACLU affiliate, right? They may not be, they're not taking that work necessarily, but they are plugged into whatever local coalition is there. So whatever state you're in has an ACLU affiliate, just reach out, say plug me in. Who do you know is the grassroots? Who's doing the grassroots work, right? There's also freedom for immigrants has a really great website that not only helps track folks in detention and detention centers, but also organizations that are working in this space. So I'd send people to those two places initially.

And there's also the American Immigration Council that has a great information. Great. And we'd love to get an email that says, I want to get involved, and we'll find you somebody. The Immigrants Rights World, you know, we work throughout the entire Southeast. it's frankly a small it's a small community it shouldn't be we need to be much bigger but frankly if you need somebody in some state we can probably send you to find somebody for you all right well we're going to put all those links in the podcast and youtube description as well as on majority dot FM Katie thank you so much for the work you're doing I mean I know it's tireless and very I would

imagine like very emotionally taxing to see this type of just sort of want and suffering and really appreciate you're coming on to talk to us and the work you're doing. Thanks, Sam. It's great to be here. All right, folks. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, our final guest of the day, Lindsay Boylan, she is a candidate for New York City Council's third district on the west side of Manhattan and a local race, but as I think people appreciate, As Momdani does, so hopefully do the rest of the country.

I've got to work on that. We'll be right. Patrick. Yeah, exactly. We are back. Sam Cedar on the majority report, Emma Viglin out today. I want to welcome back to the program, Lindsay Boylan. She is a candidate for New York City's Council, third district, the west side of Manhattan.

recently earned the endorsement of Zoran Mamdani. Lindsay, welcome back to the program. Last time we were here, you were talking about in support of Mamdani, but particularly also about your experience with Andrew Cuomo, a long time, I would say bette noir of ours here, but I was very, very, very happy to see him lose that race and hopefully exit New York and frankly American politics. He threatened to move to Florida.

He didn't do it, which is too bad, but I will still help with a ticket if he needs one. But now you're running for a city council. Tell us why. You know, I think this is the most important time to get involved in New York City's municipal politics and government. We just elected a mayor to shake things up, to fight for people, center our most vulnerable. And as you mentioned, I was particularly involved

in supporting him. And the seat opened up. And there's no more important time to join that fight. And the mayor needs a city council to support this shift that New Yorkers hired him to do. And New Yorkers need someone who's going to fight both against Trump and all of the egregious things he's trying to do and fight for affordability and all the things that we just elected, and Momdani to do. And this is an important moment and an important seat because I will be the 25th member of the Progressive Caucus. And that will really enable us to move this agenda forward in a lot of meaningful ways, budget, legislatively speaking. I just want to get a little bit granular with that in terms of like, I don't think you're right. How many people are on the New York City

Council? 51. And so 25 progressive members. We're coming in there to sort of like, I mean, obviously, Mom Dani has a huge political movement behind him in a way that I don't think, frankly, in the 34, I don't know. The many, many, the several decades that I have been living in New York, let's put it that way. I don't recall any mayor having a movement behind them. I mean, there were people like, you know, at one time or another, like, I like Bloomberg, and it was sort of like maybe they would say it sort of like sheepishly because they were. But Giuliani was not very popular until after 9-11. Dink, I mean, de Blasio, no mayor has been terribly popular, even when they got a lot.

elected. They were, they were marginally elected. But Mamdani has the ability to mobilize people. And this is coming to play with both the city's deficit and the idea of raising revenue from the rich. Like, give me a sense of how this, how you imagine this is going to play out. We have a city council speaker, or speaker of the city council who has been pushing back on raising taxes on wealthy people and coincidentally has something like a 25,000 square foot house on the Hamptons or that is her husband. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think you're right. And this incredible support, groundswell support across the board that the mayor has has enabled him to move things forward, I think, in record time, the universal child care pilot, the Pietater

tax. Those are things that would be huge accomplishments for AmeriLT over time. And he has able to do this because of the groundswell of support that he has. And I think that that's what I'm door knocking. We're up to almost, I'd say myself, particularly 3,000 doors. And people believe in what he's trying to do. They believe in the direction he is taking the city. They believe in fighting for affordability, whether we're talking about housing, we're talking about worker protections, we're talking about the public realm, we're talking about all of the disability justice. We're talking about all the things that he is focused on. And people want him to deliver on that. And I think with 25 members of the Progressive Caucus, it's going to be really hard to fight that.

It's part of a broader movement. And it's because people are fed up. And in this district, you know, people tend to view the third district from 55th down to Spring Street as a wealthy one because it's in Manhattan. But I got to tell you, almost half of our people are struggling in a very serious way. severely rent burdened. It's very hard to stay in this district. And people want to see more of what the mayor has been talking about in terms of housing justice for all, holding bad landlords accountable, building a next generation of social housing, protections to keep people in their homes, all the things that led to the pieter tax. This is all happening right now. And it's a very exciting time to be in city politics, particularly in opposition to all of the terrible things that are happening at the federal level and all of the ways that very intentionally

our federal government is creating a system that breaks down government so it doesn't work. We're doing the opposite here and the mayor is leading that charge. How much is the conversation? I mean, obviously, like, you know, you've been, you were a big supporter of Imam Donnies and you've been around the sort of the development of this administration. how much consciousness is there, aside from obviously providing material benefits for people in the city and the things you've just been talking about, but how much of there is the awareness that success in New York City is going to spread in a way that, particularly in this era, but because of the profile of Mamdani, because of a bunch of different factors, that success or failure in New York,

is going to have implications for people, whether they live in Chicago or in Peoria or, you know, across the country. I can only name two cities. But go. It's hard for, I think it would be hard not to recognize the influence and the amount of people across the country and the world who are watching this administration. I was just in a conversation in a Hell's Kitchen walk up talking to someone about how the whole world is watching and how, how much hope there is because of this election. And so I think that's obviously, I think that's very clear. I think the mayor does a very good job at always bringing it back home to New Yorkers. As he said, in the many questions and the debates, he's here to be mayor of New York City,

not another location. He's not going other places. And so I think, you know, I wouldn't want to speak for his administration, but I think that they would say they're squarely focused on New York, But they're obviously aware. I think we're all aware of how many people are watching just when there's a collaborative video, him supporting our campaign and our fight. The response I get is not just in New York, but across the globe and across the country. And, you know, people view New York's mayor as their mayor. And I think that's a powerful thing.

And I'll just say on that front, as someone who's been in government for a very long time in the bureaucracy at the state level, I think he's made some incredibly intelligent choices about his appointments. He's put both activists and people who have built their careers organizing and have the credibility, let's say, in housing tenant movement. And then at the same time, people have built their career working in the bureaucratic system. So this combination of someone who's hired people and brought people into power who know what they're doing, know how to navigate bureaucracy, but also are there in part to shake it up. And I think you see that in all of the appointments that he's made. And I think it's brilliant. I've worked with many of those folks,

both on the organizing side and the bureaucratic side. And I think that will continue to play out in terms of his ability to succeed and the administration's ability succeed. So this is for the third district. It is a special election, which I would think makes the Mondani's endorsement that much more powerful because, you know, the idea of people in it's um it's next week and so uh right i mean it's i mean that's my point is that a lot of times i you know i mean obviously it's i'm not in that district but um but it is so this is really about turnout and it's about getting the word out for people who live there um how can people who are in that district or maybe you know they live in brooklyn or they live in the

Bronx or Queens, Staten Island, or other districts in Manhattan, want to get involved. How do they do that? They can go on our website. There's a whole volunteer platform. We have canvases pretty much every day. We have two different big phone bankings this week. Very exciting. There's a countless number of ways to get involved.

You can always, of course, donate. We love to have people volunteer because we are going to win this race based on field, based on meeting every New Yorker where they are in the district. we've already built that platform. We've already built the organization with our team to be able to do this work. And so anyone who wants to come and volunteer, we can welcome you in. And that's really how we're going to win. This isn't really about me.

This is about all of us collectively. This is about the movement that was very much at play in the mayor's race. We have people who volunteered from the beginning. Nope. We just lost her. I think you get the point, though. Hopefully she'll be back in. She back in?

Oh, Lindsay. She seems to be sort of there. No, no, she's out. Okay. Well, hopefully she's going to jump back in. Brian, what is Lindsay's website? Lindsay for NYC.com. And that is L.R.

Oh, there she is. She's back. Okay. Well, I was going to say, you had this great build. up on people volunteering, and we didn't get the name of the website. Lindsay for NYC.com. And it's a lot of fun, I have to tell you. I have people who've volunteered.

We have people who volunteered always, and we have people doing it for the first time, and don't underestimate yourself, because some of my mom friends, they came and said, Lindsay, it's not really my thing, but I'll do it because I love you. And they were better than I am, you know? So we want everyone who wants to be a part of this campaign to be a part of it. That is the whole idea behind the movement, that we are some piece of broader, a bunch broader movement. And we want everyone to help. We want everyone to be a part of this win.

We are very hopeful. We are very excited. And we know change needs to come. I mean, this fight for people who are struggling in the city and the fight back against everything happening at the federal level. We haven't talked about the attacks on our immigrant communities, ICE operating in the city. We haven't talked about the attacks on our LGBTIQI plus community, the attacks and the whole horrible way that some of our biggest institutions are obeying in advance by stopping gender

affirming care. We're going to fight back against that. And this is the district to do it. This is the time to do it. And this is the race where people can be a part of that. So it's Lindsay for New York. NYC. NYC. L-I-N-D-S-E-Y, the number four. Yes. And it's F-O-R. No, it's F-O-R. Yes. Yes. Excuse me. We're going to put it in our podcast, the YouTube description, and we'll get that right. Are you already part of the team? It's a volunteer effort. Lindsay Boyling, good luck next week. Really appreciate you coming on.

Oh, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to come back on again. And thank you for talking about the race. And we want everyone to be involved in it. This is a really important moment for New York City. We will link to that website that I can't actually spell. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Bye. All right, folks.

That's it for this part of the show. That was a gauntlet for you, huh? That was a tough one. Like radio row. Yeah. Oh, you mean the three guests? Just boom, boom, boom. Oh, yeah.

It's like the old days. Some other city council news. It looks like Chi Ose, another city council member from Bedstai, Brooklyn here, has been released from custody. He was arrested for others in the deed theft, sort of, protest and beds die. So probably talk more on that tomorrow, but the images are pretty crazy. And, but, you know, the deed theft thing is, is, is, is, uh, fascinating. There are, there's some failure points apparently in the deed system where people are going in and sort of figuring out a way,

uh, to steal, essentially to, like, transfer people's deeds, um, and, uh, end up like, owning people's houses, I guess. I don't know exactly how it does. I do. A guy I knew, Ross Broccoli, I guess he was a friend at the time. He was a friend at the time.

We're not in touching so much anymore. He wrote a movie about something like that. But that was like 25 years ago. But it's happening now. But we'll get more information on that. It makes me like a David Dayen's book. chain a title, which people said it's one of the best books to read about the financial crisis from the mortgage sort of bundling financialization side of it where all these banks

started bundling these mortgages together and these financial assets and it turned out they didn't know who owned anything. Well, what they started doing was in lieu of, I mean, the whole property transfer process is done in a very deliberate fashion so that you don't have confusion. And, And they started robosigning these, the sort of like underlying asset to their securitized loans. And, you know, because you would pass the first lien on, essentially, to the next person, as you would sell these huge tranches of loans that theoretically had first in line to own the house in the event they go into foreclosure. and you're not supposed to do that.

And they Robo signed all of this. Like there were different people like, yeah, my name is Jim. And but for the company, my name is Lawrence. And I signed 5,000 of these things. I mean, it was crazy. And we totally dealt with all that stuff. So everything's good now, apparently. Oh, yeah.

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I'm going to say, no. You're going to keep winning. You're struggling against the winning. I'm going to pin you down and make you win. That's the thing is I went back to watch that clip and it is alarming how much of a rapist statement is. Totally. You're going to say we don't want to win anymore. I'm like, you got to win.

No, no, no, you're going to and you're going to love it. Nothing you can do about it. Matt, just accept it. Speaking about nothing we can do about it and we're going to love it. What's happening in the Matt-like media universe? Well, we actually talked a little bit about sexual violence with Kylie Chung on Left Reckney yesterday. and this thing called the Pink Pill Pipeline, which is right-wingers, including the Heritage Foundation agendas seeking to limit access to the pill,

using influencers, apolitical influencers and sort of lifestyle and celebrity content online as a Trojan horse. And we also talk with Matt McManus about the right, specifically the right wing, which is honest about the fact that they want to kill Socrates, because he's a rabble rouser. So very interesting. We're getting really into ideas with Matt McManus there. So check that out. Patreon.com.

Just left reckoning that's available on YouTube and Twitch. Great. See you in the fun half. Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now.

And I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is three months from now. But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts.

Wait a second. Hold on for, hold on for a second. The majority. Emma, welcome to the program. Hey. Fun pack. Matt. Who?

Fun pack. What is up, everyone? Fun pack. No, me. You did it. Fun pack. Let's go Brandon. Let's go Brandon.

Bradley, you want to say hello? Sorry to disappoint. Everyone, I'm not. Just a random guy. It's all the boys today. Fundamentally false. No, I'm sorry. Women's...

Stop talking for a second. Let me finish. Where is this coming from, dude? But dude, you want to smoke his... Seven, eight? Yes. Yes? That's me.

I think it is you. Who is you? No sound. Every single freaking day. What's on your mind? We can discuss free markets, and we can discuss capitalism. I'm going to go start a lot. Libertarians.

They're so stupid, though. Common sense says of... Of course. Gobbled Egook. We fucking nailed him. So what's 79 plus 21? Challenge met. I'm positively clovery.

I believe 96, I want to say. 857. 210. 35. 501. One half. Three-eighth. 9-11 for instance.

$3,400, $1,900. $6.5,4, $3 trillion sold. It's a zero-sum game. Actually, you're making me think less. But let me say this. Poop. You can call it satire. Sam goes to satire.

On top of it all? Yeah. My favorite part about you is just like every day, all day, like everything you do. Without a doubt. Hey, buddy, we see you. Folks. Obviously. Yeah.

Sundow guns out. I don't know. But you should know. People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore. I have a question. Who cares? Our chat is enabled folks. I love it.

I do love that. Got to jump. You got to be quick. I get a jump. I'm losing. Clock. We're already late. And the guy's being a dick.

So screw him. Sent to a gulong? Outrage. Like, what is wrong with you? Love you. Bye. Love you. Bye-bye.