The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3645 - Trump's China Humiliation; Growing Progressive Power w/ Ryan Grim

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

It's Casual Friday on The Majority Report On today's program: During a dinner with Donald Trump in Beijing, President Xi Jinping references the "Thucydides Trap" — the idea that when a rising superpower threatens to overtake an existing global power, the resulting tension often leads to war. Afterwards, Trump takes to Truth Social to spin Jinping's comments as a critique on the Biden Administration. Ryan Grim, journalist, co-host of Breaking Points and co-founder of Drop Site News, joins the program to recap the week's biggest news stories. Topics include upcoming primaries, the unreleased DNC autopsy, Majorie Taylor-Greene/AOC and more. In the Fun Half: JD Vance and head of CMS Dr. Oz announce that the federal government is deferring $1.3B in Medicaid reimbursements on grounds of alleged fraud. Dummy Nick Shirley gets sketchy dating advice from Patrick Bet-David. Stephen Crowder fails at trying to critique Zohran Mamdani's administration balancing of the budget. A man in Marblehead, MA calls out his city council for using golf courses as way to avoid complying with multi-family housing zoning laws. Canadian Billionaire Kevin O'Leary doxxes two women who are organizing against his proposed data center in Utah. All that and more. To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: SELECT QUOTE: Get the right life insurance for you and save more than 50% on term life insurance at SelectQuote.com/MAJORITY RIDGE WALLET: Upgrade your wallet today! Get up to 40% off @Ridge with code MAJORITYREPORT at Ridge.com/MAJORITYREPORT SUNSET LAKE CBD: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.

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America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Ryan Grimm, journalist, co-host of breaking points and co-founder of DropSight News. Also on the program, Trump returns from China, beleaguered and humiliated. Meanwhile, the DOJ, this is the air quotes here, settles Trump's 10,000. billion dollar IRS lawsuit, really on the eve of a judge throwing it out by giving him a near $2 billion personal slush fund. Justice.

Justice, done. Supreme Court maintains mail order access to Miffa Pristone while the appeals continue. Strike deadline looms for the Long Island Railroad. it is the largest commuter rail in North America. CIA director visits Cuba as the island is virtually totally out of fuel because of U.S. embargoes. Acting AG, Todd Blanche was told last year by the DOJ ethics lawyers to recuse himself on all matters Trump. Why?

because Todd Blanche was literally Trump's defense lawyer the day before the inauguration. Besides that. U.S. Border Patrol leader quits amid accusations that he has frequented over the past decade prostitutes in Colombia and Thailand and then brags about it to his coworkers. White House blocks Medicaid payments to blue states over supposed to, fraud. Newly released disclosure forms show that Trump has been making millions of dollars on day trading in the past three months on corporations impacted by U.S. policy. Pete Hegsith unilaterally cancels deployment of 4,000 troops to Poland and today marks

the 78th anniversary of the Nakba. the catastrophe where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost their homes driven out by Israel. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Medio-Sichrient on the IM says today's the aides of March of May? What is the Iads of May? First of all, isn't it March, isn't it? What?

Yeah, it's March 15th. This is May. Maybe it's just a joke. Beware the aides of May. Iads are just the middle of the month. Oh, all right. So you could say that theoretically of every month? Every month has I.

But wasn't that a specific? Julius Caesar. Yeah. Was there something about March that was particularly bet. Yeah, presumably other big stuff has happened on some of the other ides. All right. I'm sorry.

I get confused. We got a lot to get to today. It's casual Friday. Emma is out today. Live in La Vita Loca, I guess. I mean, she did not, you know. Hey, she put in a couple days. One day.

One day. Yeah, she was in one day this week. It's nice. That's, uh, yeah, it must, must be nice. No, she's, is on special assignment and you will find out more by Monday maybe even before that frankly um uh so she'll be back and uh i just you know want to make it clear i'm not wearing a soft collared shirt today i'm wearing a crew neck shirt because um of a laundry issue that has been

going on so i didn't do my laundry an ongoing laundry issue thank you for getting getting that the way up top. Well, I felt weird about it because the chat can relax. Yeah, everybody, everybody can relax. It's just that when I switch shirts out of this rotation, I get a little bit uptight about it. I mean, I suspect

that sounds weird to people. That's just everybody's got their one thing. That's one of mine. Yes, you got several. You got several, but that's all right. So Donald Trump went to China. And the past couple of days, I mean, this has been, and listen, I am all in favor, frankly, of the U.S. leader kissing the ass of other leaders.

I have no problem with that. All right. I think that, like, the president of the United States could kiss the ass of every single world leader for the next five decades. And it still probably wouldn't make up for, never mind our entire history, just what's happened over the past five or ten years. Iraq, I mean, we could keep going on and on. So Trump has been on this like sort of ass-kissing tour for the past couple of days.

Giving an interview at one point where he's saying, like, I think it's good that we have students come from other countries to study in America. Like, really? You've been deporting all of them. Diversitys are strange. If you look at the numbers, like we've never had a drop off of people who don't want to come to the United States like we have now. We have net negative migration. More Americans are leaving.

Here is President G, though, and he's talking about the Thucydides trap. and we will tell you what that is in a moment. The whole world is watching our meeting. Pause it. I should say for those of you listening on audio only, that's obviously not President G. That is a translator. I mean, it sort of goes without saying, but I just wanted to make sure. The whole world is watching our meeting.

Currently, transformation not seen in a century is accelerating across the globe and the international situation is fluid and turbulent, the world has come to a new crossroads. Can China and the United States overcome the Fucydides trap and create a new paradigm of major country relations? Can we meet global challenges together and provide more stability for the world? Can we, in the interest of the well-being of our two peoples

and the future of humanity build a brighter future together for our bilateral relations. These are the questions vital to history, to the world, and to the people. They are the questions of our times

that you and I need to answer as leaders of major countries. This year... So, Xi is basically saying, like, you know, can we get along? Can we negotiate? this and he talks about the

Thucydides trap which is a theory developed by a Harvard professor and I imagine he's like a

history or political science professor and it basically describes what happens when there is is a rising power that is supplanting or challenging an existing power. So in other words, this guy sang, Xi, I think it's fairly obvious, that America is sort of

sunseting or sundowning, and China is ascending. And is there a way to avoid the incredible sort of like tumult? potential, you know, violence and, et cetera. And is there a way for us to sort of like function, you know, cooperatively? Some people, I think, are very suspicious of the Chinese and, you know, over this. Personally, like, obviously I have some major issues with the Chinese government, but also their imperialism. has not been, let's just say ours has been a lot more dramatic than theirs over time.

And apparently Donald Trump found out what it meant. I am willing to bet he didn't go like, oh, not quoting, not talking about the Thucydides trap again, is he? And so here he. Don't shut up about it. Somebody must have explained it to him. And here he is trying to sort of save some face. When President Xi very elegantly referred to the United States as perhaps being a declining nation,

he was referring to the tremendous damage we suffered during the four years of sleepy Joe Biden and the Biden administration. And on that score, he was 100% correct. Our country suffered immeasurably with open borders, high taxes, transgender for everybody, men and women's sports, DEI, horrible trade deals, rampant crime, and so much more. President G. was not referring to the incredible rise that United States has displayed to the world during the 16 spectacular months of the Trump administration, which includes an all-time high stock markets and 401Ks, military victory, in thriving relationship in Venezuela, the military decimation of Iran, to be continued.

Strongest military on earth by far, blah, blah, blah. In fact, President Xi congratulated me on so many tremendous successes in such a short period of time. Two years ago, we were, in fact, a nation in decline. On that, I fully agree with President Xi, but now the United States is the hottest nation anywhere in the world. And hopefully our relationship with channel will be stronger and better than ever before. I mean, first off, nobody, nobody really, in the general public, would be paying attention to what the Thucydides trap is, were he not to have tweeted this. It's just nobody. And this is a guy who's just like so, there's so, like, who is this for?

Like, who is this for? There's nobody who's reading this who's going to go like, oh, well, oh, yeah, he must have been referring to the Biden. Just those four years. It's like for himself when he sees it represented in media. It's, it is, honestly, it's like literally like his, like a pacifier. Yeah, yeah, south soothing. It's, it's insane. He's chewing on his blankie.

And it's really, it is, it is for himself. It is fascinating. I mean, honestly, like, who is the audience that it's like, oh, well, you know, okay. Yeah, I guess maybe it was the Biden thing. Weird that he'd bring it up now two years later. We had to get ahead of MAGA because they obviously know what the Thucydides trap is. I wonder if there's like a version of the Thucydides trap that... You avoid just by electing the right guy?

No, but like I'm wondering if like... Thucydides, I guess Thucydides was like a, was a Greek historian who would recount these dynamics. But I wonder if there's like, maybe Thucydides had like an assistant. So it would be like the assistant to Thucydides, you know, variant, where it's like you're really talking about how they were a declining nation two years ago, but now they're back. It's actually fine now. Right.

Yeah. Thucydides avoided. Have you heard the Thucydides rebound trap? Super, super weird, weird that he's still talking about Thucydides trap when that should have been over 18 months ago. Weird. Thucydides, you're welcome. He said Thucydides and I said, God bless you. I'm sorry.

Are you numb to you yet? Oh, in a moment, we're going to be. talking to Ryan Grimm, a journalist co-host of Breaking Points, co-founder of DropSight News, and the guy who tweeted out something sympathetic to Marjorie Taylor Green the other day that I didn't appreciate it. So I have him on. Things have been crazy. I don't know. I mean, obviously we're on the huge rebound right now, but things have been crazy.

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We are back, Sam Cedar, on the majority of party. Emma Viglin out today on special assignment. I want to welcome back to the program, Ryan Grimm, journalist, co-host of Breaking Points, co-founder of DropSight News, who was just in mid-tweet when we brought him on, confirming that he knew people who bought oysters from Graham Platner. Take that in New York Times. Yeah.

A lot of important stuff going on over there. Is there a question as to whether Plattner was actually like an oyster man or was like some question like, was he doing lobsters or this guy's, you know, he's dragging soft shell clams in. What's going on? There's some effort to call on the question whether or not he's actually an oyster man or whether he's just kind of playing games at one. It's ironic there, you know, now that Abdul Al-Sai and Platner,

You know, he's leading, Platner's winning. They're taking El Sire down a few pegs, and they're trying to push Platner up a few pegs. They're like, this guy's not as elite as he says. He wasn't actually a physician. This guy, Platner, he's more elite than he says. He went to this private high school. So maybe they're just going to meet in the middle,

and they're just then average guys each. Well, I mean, this is actually, this is good, because I want to touch on all the stuff about, the redistricting wars and whatnot. Maybe we'll get that out. Why don't we start with this? Because it is sort of fascinating to watch the freak out that is happening. Because you and I have been doing this stuff, I mean, for 20-some-odd years now,

from your days as a cub reporter at the Huff Post. That's right. And there's never been a time where I think the establishment corporate wing of the party was as backheeled as they are now, which is not to say that they still don't retain power in the party. But they're more backheeled than I've ever seen them before. and they're flailing in a way that I also haven't seen them before. Like, we saw the abundance thing, and whatever you think about the zoning restrictions in San Francisco or in specific parts of California or whatnot,

they attempted to make that into some type of movement because they realized, like, they can't push the sort of moderate centristism. It's quite obvious what that is now. And they're freaking out. Yeah. No, it's true. You know, they freaked out a little bit at Bernie Sanders, but then they were in 2015, but then they're like, all right, we got this.

We've got this under control. Then they freaked out a little bit more when O AOC and the squad came in, but they're like, nah, we've kind of got this. But, yeah, it's just been building and building and building. And the anger continues to build. And I think what they're seeing is that the thing that was holding back, the kind of Bernie in the squad, was that Democratic primary voters still had a lot of respect

for the institutions of the Democratic Party. And even for their individual leaders, that's gone. Like Chuck Schumer, somebody was telling me they were at a room full of donors for like a book party event, 50, 60 private thing in Washington, D.C. and Schumer got the iciest reception that she'd ever seen him get anywhere. And this is among like party brass. Right.

Even the like, like everyone is like, you guys have led us to Armageddon and defeat. People forget like Nancy Pelosi amongst Democratic voters had something like a 80% approval rating, you know, and, and I, Hakeem Jeffries is, I think, doesn't have the, isn't in the depths that Chuck Schumer is.

Right. But he's not, he is not at a 60 or 70% approval rating by by Democratic voters. I mean, that's, that seems to be the big differences that really just the Democratic voters are changing in this way and are being in some ways more sophisticated. And the way that they're attacking Platner, still, even, you know, a little bit. and the way that they attacking Abdul al-Said Chris Robb is running for Congress in Pennsylvania's third

I think it is we had him on and when he came on I realized like I had interviewed him he used to be a blogger back in the day Netzian I think it was or something like that I mean I don't know if you remember that blog He's an OG. Yep

And we're seeing folks like Corey Booker, Josh Shapiro, apparently coming out against him. And there's some controversy about one of the, was it Sharif Street who had tried to redistrict away other Democratic seats in the state to maintain his. Yes. Yes. And I mean, the problem I think that is that it's becoming clear is that the, The argument always used to be Democrats have to win this. So don't get too ambitious on an ideological level. And they would claim that it was ideological ambition.

And I think we could argue against that. But the idea was don't be going for somebody who's so progressive because we need to win this. And I think what's being revealed is that like this cadre of people don't know how to win. Right. And don't necessarily care about winning. outside of themselves. Right. Yeah.

If your whole thing is being a winner, then you have to do some winning. And Sharif Streets won is incredible because, yeah, he cut a deal with Republicans in Pennsylvania. The courts came in

and like blew it up. So like, it wasn't as if he even failed at that. Like, he only failed because of the courts. He took Brendan Boyle and Dwight Evans, their congressional seats, and mashed them together.

trying to force a Democrat on Democrat primary so that he could have this other seat that he could then run for. And his dad is like a corrupt, you know, Pennsylvania legacy guy too. And it would have meant fewer Democrats at both the state level and the congressional level. And he was comfortable with that in order to, you know, get a leg up himself. And that was just a couple years ago. Yeah, I think you're exactly right that regular voters are paying or like, you know, I don't know about that. Yeah, I think the, and they're tired of the sort of like failure of partisanship as opposed to from an ideological standpoint. And one of the things that I think that is, you know, it's clear, you know, I think there's, I think like when you look to Michigan ideology is definitely playing a big part in it.

I think one of the things that helped Platner was a certain amount of partisanship too. I mean, he obviously ideologically is also very much to the left. But he articulates an idea of like, we've got to fight these people. Like we can't not go into it. I mean, there was. And also like how many,

I think main voters were like, how many moderate women in a row are we going to put up against Susan Collins? So I think some of it was just raw identity politics from main Democrats who were like, we've tried this type of moderate, centrist Democrat against Susan Collins so many times, and we get waxed every time. Let's try, let's just tactically, let's try something different. So I think that played a role too.

They're like, yeah, you guys aren't winning. Yeah. And, I mean, I think that's, I think there's some of that is, is changing. on some level. But let's talk about the one other element to this. And I want to pivot into, like, we don't have a DNC autopsy, apparently because Ken Martin, one of the stories that we've been given is that it was just done so poorly that it's embarrassing to show people. Prepare to believe that in part. I am too. Although it does also feel like a limited hangout in some respects

in that there could be other stuff that's worse. Who knows? It's quite clear we're not getting it. In fact, I mean, and there was a piece in the bulwark by Rob Flaherty. Rob Flaherty who had,

who was in charge of like digital. Is that basically it? Yeah, and he was in the leadership. Yeah, he's in that senior leadership. And, you know,

I, it's an interesting piece. It's definitely worth, reading. There are some parts that I want to highlight as we talk. I have to say in general, I'm skeptical because this is what I would do. Um, you know, if, if I'm on Project Limited Hangout, I'm going to get out there. I'm going to give my version of the autopsy. And if I have some friends I want to protect, I protect them. You know, I do a somewhat Mia Kopa, but it's like a really a mea call. And I'll save some of the Paws.

And that's what's going on there. But there was a couple of things that I thought were interesting in it. What was your – let me hear your take on this. Just the overall arching – both the idea of we may not see the autopsy in what Flarity wrote here. He writes it in this very marketing-oriented kind of democratic style. And he talks about the lack of a brand. identity that Kamala had. And while I recoil at that, the use of that kind of language when it comes to

politics, okay, fine. Like, if we use that language, yeah. Like, she didn't really have a brand other than the Brat Summer type thing. But to the extent that she didn't, she did not have, like, a Mamdani brand. Mom Dani had a brand. He's going to make New York more affordable for you. Like, you just that you've got that. that from him. And he loves New York and he wants it to be for everybody. And, you know,

he didn't, I would have liked to see him get into more of the kind of the fight between Mark Cuban and Reid Hoffman and the major donors who prevented her from having that brand because that brand would have cut against their oligarchic interests. That, I mean, that part was really, There was two things that I thought, I mean, in that way, that was missing, was everything was supposed to be, like, we're going to do what Biden says. We're going to be an extension. We're not going to make any changes from Biden, which was also a decision. That was a bad decision. We'll talk about God's in a minute.

But just in general, in a change election, that was a bad decision. But if you're going to do that, then why not promote the most popular aspects of Biden? Biden's agenda, which were the antitrust and the labor stuff. Right. And the extension of like all the, like, the, you know, the, the, the problem is the American Rescue Act stuff did not have durability. It got sunk in build back better. You could have pushed those, but like you say, they couldn't do that because Tony West,

because of Mark Cuban, because of, uh, the chief litigator for Google, who is fighting the antitrust and doing her debate prep. I mean, so there was a, there was, the lack of a brand was a reflection of a campaign and maybe a future administration that was unclear as to what they were doing

and cutting against their sort of like best attributes. The stuff with, but there was other stuff like they shut down, Tim Walsh, which is, I think, part of that fight. They shut down the weird stuff, which was, I think, the single most effective thing you could say about Republicans ever. There's a story about where they shut down

using Project 2025 as a thing and wanted to call it the Trump extreme agenda, and then they sort of drop the ball on all that. What? What? What, he writes it as if it was just like, um, just a poor choice of, of, of, of, of, of, of assessing what to call it. But there's a, there's been a habit over the past decade with, with Democrats, particularly like Biden, Democrats and Schumer. I mean, of not tying Donald Trump closely enough to the Republican Party.

Like. Yeah. or just being gentle, just being too gentle. And not, I mean, it's not gentle to say extreme, blah, blah, blah. But those are not words people use. Like, what do they say, you know, extreme, like whatever? Extreme MAGA at one point they called it or something like that. But my point being that they always tried to separate MAGA from Republican.

Right. And, you know, then they had another qualifier, extreme MAGA. So we have three different types of like, You know, people that we have MAGA, extreme MAGA, and Republican. And the fact is, is that every single thing Donald Trump is getting away with, all of the incredible amount of corruption, all of the just all of it could not happen if there was 10% of the, of the Republican Party that said, no, this is way out of bounds. This is a Republican Party project. Project 2025 was a Republican Party project. it has all the greatest hits from the years and years,

and they never tie them into one. They have their, Schumer was allergic to it in 2016. Clinton was too. Like the last three months of that campaign, it was like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were on like, you know, a witness protection program.

You never heard anything of them. And they should have been held to count, but they wanted to protect the fever's going to break. The Republicans are going to come around. We need a strong. Republican Party, all that stuff. And they still wouldn't do it. The other thing that struck me was the Gaza stuff.

And some of this I agree with. I've been saying this since in the run-up to the election. Given the Biden's administration position, Gaza was an impossible issue to communicate around. Now, that in of itself is also like, excuse me? It wasn't the Biden administration's position. The campaign seemed to go at great lengths not to differentiate whatsoever. They could have had a slightly different position. They could have indicated there's going to be a change.

They could have indicated any of that, but they didn't want to. That was a choice. Right. Right. And a terrible choice. A bad choice. But it says protesters drove coverage away from campaign events. Digital creators or even supporters,

were afraid to say anything nice about Biden because their comments section would get rocked. I mean, also, I mean, I could just say, speaking for myself, I was so disgusted by the policy that I didn't want to say anything nice about Biden, even though there was a lot of things that, you know, prior to his Gaza policy, I was one of the best presidents I've had my lifetime for my issue sets. Yes, there's actually a tweet that from Prem Tucker right around, around October 7th, 2023, of all the things that Biden had just done like that last week when it came to like NLRB, antitrust, IRA, like, a list of like things that you could never

even have, you know, dreamed he'd be able to accomplish when he was sworn in. And I had the exact same feeling. I don't care about my comment section or whatever. As people can, I think, I have standing to say that. I get roasted constantly by my own people. Oh, even by our people, too. We're going to get to that in a second. Bring it, people. That never has stopped me from saying anything. Obviously, what was stopping me was the exact same thing you're talking about. I'm so disgusted by what they're doing that I'm not talking about this NLRB ruling right now. 100%. And for many voters watching the horrific, painful footage out of God, it became a moral

question one we didn't have a good answer for in ways that may not be reflected in a poll it meaningly meaningfully reduced enthusiasm and this is what i was saying all the time because i was hearing this from everybody i knew in sort of like get out the vote you know sort of like outside groups who go and motivate people is that we're telling our people to go out and nobody's psyched to do this because they all feel the exact same way like this is gross i you know i i i know that uh trump needs to lose, but there is absolutely, you know, the campaign is not giving us any

reason to hope even that it's going to be better. Right. And the way these campaigns work that everyone, and everybody will start a couple people that are pretty active in politics and then kind of look to them for guidance on

how to think about, you know, you ask, you ask your kind of like it's about the Senate race or whatever. In my case, that's me and then I'll tell them but if you separate that link between the national party and the people who are in the middle there you that that's a multi-billion cost billions and billions of dollars to recreate but you can't pay your way into reproducing that that linkage um and you know that i i mean i think that assessment is correct it was the first order problem of some uh votes being

lost. And then there's the second order, which is actually the bigger problem, is that all of the people who are supposed to motivate people to go out are completely demoralized because they're the ones who are paying attention to this. And they're just disgusted by it on a fundamental level. But he elides, the primary question is like, this is all fallout from Harris not signaling in any way that she was going to have any type of change of policy, Webberts. whether it was to, you know, have a Palestinian speak at the DNC, I mean, to forefront Phil Gordon or something. Like, there was a, there was a multitude of ways that they could have done it, but they were afraid to.

And that speaks to, I mean, that that speaks to, I think, like, her failure as a, as a politician. Right. She was also probably after Biden, uniquely the worst person to run because of that. exact reason. She was caught in this trap of what she talks about. If she breaks with Biden, she's worried, okay, well, then the question is, well, why didn't you do anything about this? This is your administration. Like, it's very hard for you to run against the administration where you're the vice president, which is why Biden shouldn't have run and there should have been a primary. Right. Which he says in the beginning, you know, if there was a kind of populist

outsider that ran against the Biden administration, they probably would have been better positioned to beat Trump. But that's that's that's neither here nor there for his analysis. I think obviously that person would have been better positioned. But the things that dragged her down were the things that she really couldn't have done much about. She could like I think you say, look, I was the vice president. I didn't, I didn't agree with it. I got overruled. Like, yeah, I didn't. I mean, like, I don't think that's such a hard thing to have done. And I also was running the administration. That's the thing is that like there was plenty of room for her to create even a slight distance.

You know, there are always ways to improve. And nothing I could do that would be different could have existed without the foundation that Biden created. And we should be listening to Palestinian voices more. and in my administration, I'm going to endeavor to hear that side more. And we'll see. Like, even that would have been an indication of at least some daylight. And they didn't even try that. I don't know if it would have been sufficient.

But how about this war ends the day I'm sworn in? And if they want a better deal, they better get it from Biden now. Yeah. I mean, I'm talking about the least. I'm like just like calculating the very, very, very least. that she could have done and she didn't even do that that's the point right um i am still skeptical as to like what would be in an actual autopsy and whether they have one or not but it also feels like ken martin's got to go like and even though we're six months away from an election it doesn't

feel like it would make much of a difference based upon what seems to be going on over there right he's going to hold on and they'll win the house and senate maybe and then he'll say it's because of us well let's i will let michael steel he always remind people he was the chairman in 2010 like he's like that was me buddy yeah maybe it was uh the um let's talk about the the the the outlook for uh the house in the senate has changed particularly the house not the senate really uh because of the the assault on the voting rights act aside from like and i should say this is not to downplay the fact that like there the implications of reversing the voting rights act i think are far greater than just how many seats democrats are going to get and even far greater

from like the fact that we're going to lose probably 20 seats um of black representatives across the country it is the most explicit expression of like the most explicit expression of like like, I don't know, we're in a post-reconstruction era, like we're in a new Jim Crow type of scenario. Obviously, same laws haven't been passed, but we'll see. But we're in a distinct revanchist era right now. It is, it is the current Supreme Court. opinion is that it is legal to gerrymander for partisan purposes, but it is illegal to draw districts in line with the Voting Rights Act,

which was an act of Congress that was passed repeatedly and renewed repeatedly. I think most recently in 2007 right before they struck it down again. Yes. And Scalia. The 1960s Act. No, bro, they passed it. They passed it. They renewed it regularly.

It was 98 to maybe two or one in 2007 in the Senate. And Scalia cited that in 2013 in the Shelby County when their first assault on the Voting Rights Act. They've been hitting different sections of it over the course of the past 12 years, 13 years. And he said in that, I don't know the exact words, but he said they only. reauthorized it because they were afraid to vote against it. They were too embarrassed. They want to be seen as racist. Like when what planet can a judge go into the minds of lawmakers and A assess why they vote for something, but B, judge why they vote for something. You can't say they only did this because they were they were afraid of their constituents. They only did that

because it represented the will of their constituents. Exactly. It's insane. Like what? Why else should they do something? So the only upside to this is that there seems to be a greater understanding amongst at least the younger Democratic establishment and other Democrats that we need to do something about court reform. Like this is something that should have happened under the Biden administration.

And there also seems to be at least some understanding. Maryland, I think now is going to redistrict. The governor is starting to come around. Spanberger. I mean, they could do more stuff in Virginia that would highlight the fact that there have been three Republican states that have packed their courts in the wake of other decisions they didn't like in the past five years. six years

Utah I can't remember where else it was there were two other states Utah was the most recent Wisconsin I think it was like Ohio Ohio they overruled it

and they just ran with it anyway Yes Virginia could do this could It's a constitutional amendment like it's not up to the Virginia Supreme Court They're calling out the paperwork

It's like, hmm, constitution. The technicality was not even a legitimate technicality, frankly. But also, so yeah, the Constitution is, it's, you interpret the Constitution. The Constitution's been written by the voters. Like, the interpretation is, it's not up for interpretation. It's very crystal clear what they passed. It does feel like, I don't know, I just, we had read a quote from Hakeem Jeffries. where he said like, you know, we're going to crush their soul on this stuff.

If we take over the House and the Senate. And I mean, it's nice to hear that stuff. And I think that there's a sense amongst like progressives in the House that Jeffries is a lot less ideologically cemented than Nancy Pelosi was. Yes. And also a lot of these CBC members worked on issues. when it came to business interests for their states, worked very collaboratively over decades with Republicans. So I think they feel an actual sense of betrayal as well.

The CBC does. Yeah. There's also an interesting thing that, like John Lewis, apparently, like, I've been reading, I think it was John Lewis was, like, hesitant about some of the Voting Rights Act stuff in 1985, where it was sort of expanded in some ways. because he felt that it was going to break up the relationship between white progressives and the black community, which traditionally was actually had like a more vibrant sort of like radical tradition. And, you know, it's funny because I had the Lake Glenn Ford on in 2012.

he was arguing that Obama had killed that tradition and that Obama, because of that was the greater evil. And I've been thinking about this stuff with the Voting Rights Act and the idea now that like white progressives and black candidates because you got guys like Gregory Meeks and this guy's about as corporate as they get. I mean, he's like Chris Coons, but from Queens. Right.

And it comes. could bring about a different type of coalition that you see in some places like Chris Rob, for instance, in Pennsylvania's third, where the, where identity politics in and of itself doesn't carry the day that it's going to caught. And now, I think overall, this is not a good thing for our country for a myriad of reasons. but it'll be interesting to see if a coalitions grow. And there's, and we get more, the CBC pulls to the left because of this. Well, the younger CBC members are already, like if you just chart them out, way more, way to the left of the, of the older CBC members.

That's an interesting point that he makes. Now, in a lot of those states, there won't be a coalition. to put into power. Right, right. They'll just, they'll just nuke them down to zero. Now there's, now it also,

as Democrats have been saying, careful what you pray for, I think as, as Clyburn put it, he thinks that three seats become viable in South Carolina if they try to nuke his.

Now, maybe Republicans win all three of those. Maybe they don't. Right. And a working class coalition, in the long run, might be more competitive in those three seats. And so they may end up, you know, having fewer Republicans and more black Democrats, but supported by more white voters. So, yeah, it's what, what, what they're, what they're trying to do is indefensible. That they might fail is not a defense of what they're trying to do.

Yes. I mean, I know as soon as you say that, I think of some folks justifying January 6th by going like, oh, they're old and not adept. And, you know, nobody there was, you know, like, I'm sorry. You rob a bank. Just because you're incompetent at it, doesn't mean that you didn't break the law. Right.

And I want to work for them. And there's also like just while we're on this and then we'll get to the big debate that we're going to have. you have an intern who's running for Congress. Is that right? I do. That's right. A former intern.

I got an intern. I got an oyster man. Tell us about him. Yeah, Austin. Austin Allman, I used to me. He was five years ago or so. He was my intern back at the Intercept. And he went on from there to do work in the like the anti-monopoly space.

Yeah. He was writing for the prospect occasionally and also at, what was the name of the open markets? Yes. Yeah. He's from, so he's from Lincoln, Nebraska, or not Lincoln, I think a town out. Nathan, maybe it's called some town outs that I've never been to outside of Lincoln. He grew up, you know, he struggled hard, worked his way out of Nebraska to Minnesota for college. And then has moved back there since.

Um, his, you know, he launched his campaign out. He's, uh, brutal story of, brutal story. His mom taking her life as the bank, bank is coming for their home. Um, and, uh, you know, he, you know, fighting to get it back and, and fighting to like, uplift his family members. So a, there was a primary in Nebraska last week, the kind of centrist Democrat who the, the, the, the, the, the, I think the, the progressive candidate raised like 50 grand or something very little. He was outspent the 50 grand candidate, that candidate, I want to say it was Kavanaugh or something

like that. Kavanaugh was outspent over 10 to 1, I think, in that. Was that the Denise Powell-Cavanaugh race? Oh, maybe yes. Okay. I'm sorry. That was the other race. This is the other one. Regardless. I think Buckmeyer is a guy's name who won the race. He's worked in the State Department for 20 years. Whether you believe Austin's poll or not, they did a poll that showed that when you laid out the bio of the Democrat in a very favorable way. Like they write, you know, he worked in the state department for both administrations. He's going to bring down costs. This numbers went down.

Like, I've always never seen that before in a poll where like you, you very honestly and fairly describe who the guy is. It's like 20 years in the state department and then coming back to Nebraska, People are like, you know what, they're going to pass on that. Yeah. There's an anti-government. There's a pro-change sentiment. And I wouldn't say anti-government as much as maybe anti-government personnel. Right.

The Democrats plan to essentially endorse or more or less like quiet endorse, Dan Osborne running for Senate, the Democrat who, won the race has promised to drop out. Right. So that she will not be competition with Osborne. What are the chances of that happening in this congressional race? Well, so he met with the chair of the Nebraska party. He pitched, you know, a plan. I talked to her yesterday. She rejected that plan. The party is currently standing behind the Democrat. What Austin is saying is that he's going to make the case over the next few months that he's the viable one. And then it would be, let's say he, let's say he manages to pull that off.

Then it's up to the party whether or not they agree and whether or not they want to step aside. And then you would think that it goes both ways that if he can't prove it over the next several months. That he's viable. Right. That it would be on coming up drop out. Yeah.

Whether he could do that or not, I don't know. but like it's a different situation than Osborne, which makes him in some ways more independent. Like, because the biggest knock on Osborne is they'll say he's actually a Democrat in independence clothing. Right. Interesting.

I mean, it really is. I mean, he really is a, you know, an independent in this regard. I mean, but his policies, I think, are very aligned with progressives. All right. Let's get to this. This is what people, why are people are tuning in. And so for, you know, my radio instincts are like, you backload this. We would have held people over the commercial break many times. So you tweet it out.

Can we find that tweet? We should have probably pulled this. You tweet it out. There's obviously, like this happens over and over again, it seems like there's like waves of in which ways that AOC is attacked. I'm not saying you were attacking AOC. But that and that waves of attacks. And here it is.

Ryan Graham, here it is. This is what you tweeted out. What was the date on this? May 8th or something. Okay. So this is in response to AOC saying that she doesn't personally trust Marjorie Taylor Green, thinks he's sort of Johnny come lately. She was talked, she was at an event where they asked her about making transpartisan

coalitions. And she's talking about legislation. She's paired up with that. She's done this many times, maybe more than most in Congress with Republicans to push legislation. She said, I wouldn't do this with Marjorie Taylor Green. and you swooped in and wrote

MTG sacrificed her hold on for one second you wrote MTV sacrificed her political career to stand against genocide against Trump against the Epstein class

and to defend the survivors of Epstein's trafficking if that doesn't earn credibility I don't know what possibly could Okay. What the? I mean, come on. Why don't we also read what I didn't say there? There are a lot of things I didn't say that people ascribe to that. Well, let me say this. I, A, disagree with the second word in that, sacrificed. Because if you will recall that her one piece of legislation that she promoted this amendment to a, a defense bill, which AOC voted against the entire bill, we should say, came immediately after

she was rejected by Donald Trump to run for Senate and for governor in Georgia. He said, no, Marjorie. This is also after she was basically kept from House leadership. So she's got her millions of dollars that she has done by insider trading in the house not illegal but um arguably unethical and she decides she doesn't want to be in congress anymore so much so that she's going to resign in five months from that time it was it was mid-july where she got the acts on the the and that's when she also introduced the legislation so she didn't really sacrifice her political career, she took the only path that was available to her, which is, I'm going to leave. Maybe she'll come back someday, but she had nowhere else to go.

No, there's another path. The path is continuing to be in the house. Lots of people have tried to get Trump's endorsement to run statewide or something, not gotten it, and they keep it moving. Like, she didn't have to go after him. You don't have to quit. She could. Oh, she was pissed.

She was spurned. Let me, look, yes, she didn't have to do it. But we've seen her impulse control. We played the video of her peering through AOC's letter slot. Maybe drunk, maybe not. I'm not sure which is a better explanation. Sandy, like we can see an impulse control is not necessarily her thing. And I don't know.

And I said, by the way, I said separately that I fully understand why AOC personally has a grudge that she's not going to let up. Oh, sure. MTC has not apologized for that. MTG has targeted her personally, like creepily at, you know, at her door, online constantly, on the floor,

like, acting like a weird bully. Like, oh yeah, no, I'm not even talking about that. I'm actually, I want to stay on the, like, yes, I think she has every reason to personally be like, F this person, I'm never, but if she like, if she,

meant what she was doing. If like if her, if MTG's agenda, and look, I am happy to have her saying these things that, uh, that are, I agree with. And I think they are marginally helpful. I'm not sure who a constituency is for this, but I do think they're marginally helpful in the same way that like, you know, the Washington wizards are helpful to the, the Globetrotters. Like, it's good to have, you know, our version of Allen, uh, what was that guy's name on hand? Colmes. Colmes, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's good to have apostates, right? Like, I'm happy that Bill Crystal is, you know, is out there and Jen Rubin. Yeah. And all of the, like, you know, all of those, uh, uh, never Trumpers. And she is basically a never Trumper, except for she could have stayed in Congress for another, uh,

year. And had a material impact on votes. and she decided not to do that. And my question is like, how can you say that she sacrificed her political career to stand up against genocide, et cetera, et cetera, when her career, I think in her mind, was over at least that career play. Stay in the house, do something

because I think she felt like she had to pivot. And the only way that she could do that, but she could have done it in the house. She could have been voting with Massey. She could have been, you know, like co-sponsoring things with Rokana. She could have been doing all of those things. But instead, she just like pulled a, what's her face from Sarah Palin? She should have stayed in the house.

And she would have earned more credibility if she had done that. And I think she loses credibility by leaving the house. I think that's true. She could have and should have stayed there. Like there's no question about that. you know I basically agree that it's marginally good that she's saying the things that she's saying. Yes. And the question I was, the thing that I was responding to was AOC saying that that MTG didn't have credibility on this issue.

She doesn't. I mean, like, she doesn't, but who cares? I mean, you know, I said it. I responded to it. Right. You can not care. apparently a lot of people care days later talking about it yes but no well i care more about the idea that like she somehow sacrificed and that she like the other part that frustrated me in those comments was she said

when there are issues where there's bipartisan establishment support for something then in those cases and she said like for instance banning stock trading in those instances i think it's appropriate to work with people we disagree with on other issues. So it's okay to do that for stock trading. What issue has stronger bipartisan establishment support than unapologetic support for Israel? So it's okay to do it for stock trading, but stopping a genocide? You can't go there? Well, wait a second. What is, I mean, what is Marjorie Taylor going to, what are they going to do together? Like, she's out of Congress. She left Congress. She might as well. She's just some gadfly.

Like Alex Jones, like Alex Jones, I'm sure has agreed with something at one point. Should, should AOC, like a congressperson joined with Alex Jones? That's a fair. That's a fair point, too. He brought up MTG. Like, why did, like, why? Like, what's the point of bringing her up to, like, sideline her? Like, if she's, if she's, if she's nothing to work with her on, I think, I think, I think, I think,

In that context, she should not be paying attention to, you know, a former congressperson. But I imagine that's probably driven by like her personal animosity. Right. Which again, I get like. But I think the question was like in what circumstances do you make a transpartisan thing? And I think like there is, I mean, let me put this way. do you think just broadening out from it do you think there are circumstances

where there are people that it does not make sense to do like you know go with God Tucker Carlson I'm glad that you are but I also know for you know like I also know there was back in the early days of MSNBC way way back when Papy Canaan would fill in for Tucker on his show Papy Canaan would have me on because he knew I was the only

you he could get that would criticize Israel. And I felt dirty as shit. But, but it was not like I had an audience that I was delivering to Pat Buchanan. I mean, that's also the question. I mean, this is the same question that like, uh, when Soroda asked, uh, Platner about going on Tucker Carlson's show and his, you know, assessment, I thought was pretty, uh, or his assessment of the calculation is pretty important. Like, who's helping who in this situation? Like, you know, are we helping? Are we really expanding who is hearing an anti-genocide message when we welcome Marjorie Taylor Green into our home to talk about it? Or are we basically whitewashing Marjorie Taylor Green, who still has a bunch of other odious policy sets? And also someone who like has no, she gave up her material power.

I think because of the way that different media environments are structured, that you're much more likely to persuade some people in her base of your position, then you are going to accidentally get a bunch of majority report viewers to all of a sudden start hearing MTG's other ideas and be like, oh, that's interesting. I hadn't thought about the way weather can be controlled. Like, I don't think that, I think that they're mostly immune because it's a much more kind of open and, like, you know, they've gotten the vaccine, whereas, like, I think a lot of people in the right-wing media spaces are open to left-wing populist ideas. And if they start hearing them, can move over.

Let me give you a real-world example, MS now. which made the pivot to having a lot and never Republicans on, never Trump on. They're not serving anything up. But anyway, go ahead. Yeah. Well, I mean, I can tell you that, I mean, this is just an example. And it made not, when Trump in the first term bombed Syria,

every single person on that network. And I know this because. I was coincidentally supposed to be on to talk about something else was advocating him bombing Syria and saying it shows that he's serious. And the reason is because they're all former Republicans or supposedly former Republicans. And, you know, anybody looking at Bill Crystal now, you know, or George W. Bush or whatnot, like there is something to be said about holding. people's, you know, real record.

The overwhelming part of her record was, incidentally, in support of Israel, Marjorie Taylor Greens. And yes, she did have a brief moment, at least in terms of her career as a congressperson, which she cut short, where she had a change of mind after every other avenue for her political ambition was shut down. But if she comes back into politics, I don't know that it works the way that you're talking about. I don't know that people are traveling with her.

Her audience is traveling to the majority report when she's on the majority report, let's say. You nervous that she's going to snow your audience? I don't think so. I got more faith in your audience than you do. No, no, I'm not saying that, but I also don't think that, like, what is she going to do for my eyes? Like, is she going to provide them?

more nuance on the genocide? No, but the idea would be that then you would get access to her audience. How would I do that? And that you're going to persuade them. I don't know, like there's podcasts and that network that you can go on. I'll hook you up with Tucker. I'll go on to

her podcast. Yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. But that's different. It's a two-way street in that sense. But in any event, I thought this was supposed to end at one. I think I thoroughly demolished. I was just going to say, I think we can agree, we can agree on the fact that I demolished you, all caps, on this.

Well, you get to write the YouTube headline. That's right. It just proves my point. I'm sure the, I'm sure the folks at DropSight won't be snowed by that. Well, I'm sure they will be. All right. Well, Ryan Grimm, appreciate you coming on. Always.

I really destroyed you on this. I can't believe it. That's what the headline says. We know it because that's what the YouTube title says. Folks, we will link to drop site and breaking points. Ryan, always a pleasure. Much appreciated. Have a great weekend.

Thanks, man. See you soon. I held them really long, too. He was so elegant. So elegant. What he called Majority Report a declining podcast? So elegant. Folks, that's it for the free half of the program today.

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Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now. And I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is three months from now. But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts. Wait a second. Hold on. Hold on for a second.

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On top of it all, my favorite part about you is just like, every day, all day, like everything you do. Without a doubt. Hey, buddy, we see you. Obviously. Yeah. Sundow guns out. I don't know.

But you should know. People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore. I have a question. Who cares? Our chat is enabled folks. I love it. I do love that. Look, got a jump.

I got to be quick. I get a jump. I'm losing it, bro. Two o'clock. We're already late. And the guy's being a dick. So screw him. Sent to a gulaw?

Outrage. Like, what is wrong with you? Love you. Love you. Bye-bye.