The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3656 - Iran Toys with Trump; ICE Detention Abuses; US vs Cuba w/ Wali Khan, Jose Luis Granados Ceja

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

It's Fun Day Monday on The Majority report. *Fun Day is not in any way a promise of fun in any shape or form. On today's program: Once again, Iran has ended negotiations with the U.S. as a result of I...srael expanding operations in southern Lebanon. Wali Khan, a multimedia journalist covering state violence, joins the show to discuss the protests at Delaney Hall Ice Detention Center in Newark, New Jersey. Jose Luis Granados Ceja, journalist covering Latin America at Drop Site News, joins MR to discuss updates on the U.S.'s blockade on Cuba and the potential of a military invasion. In the Fun Half: Senator Chuck Schumer speaks at the Israel Day Parade in NYC, where he unironically argues that a Jewish state is necessary because of the fear of Jews being violently expelled from their homes, even as Israel carries out the same policy against Palestinians. Historian Yuval Noah Harari says if after 2,000 years the "Jews simply become the Romans, what was the point?". Dave Rubin fails miserably on his Jubilee Surrounded episode. All that and more. To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: ZOCDOC: Go to Zocdoc.com/MAJORITY and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor WILD GRAIN: Get $30 off your first box + free Croissants in every box. Go to Wildgrain.com/MAJORITY to start your subscription. SUNSET LAKE CBD: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to a free version of the Majority Report. Support this show at join the Majority Report.com and get an extra hour of content daily. With Sam Cedar. It is Monday, June 1st, 2006. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heart of of America.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Wally Khan, New York-based multimedia reporter covering state violence and working-class America on the protests at Delaney Hall in New Jersey. Then Jose Luis Bernados Seja, journalist at DropSite News covering Latin America about the potential for an imminent. invasion of Cuba because why not? Also on the program today, Trump overplays his hand. U.S. and Iran trade strikes, and Iran halts all peace talks. Vows straight to Hormuz will be totally shut over Israel's ongoing attacks on Lebanon. Speaking of those attacks on Lebanon, Israel's assault is its deepest incursion into Lebanon in over a quarter century.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Because they are so close to a nuclear weapon. I'm sorry, no, because of the single most largest attacks on Jews since the Holocaust. No, I'm sorry, just some other reason. U.S. boat bombing campaign has now killed over 200 people. No indication if any of them did anything wrong. Meanwhile, in Maine, Graham Platner and wife Amy Gertner tell the media to leave their marriage alone. GAO report, Department of Energy, is 45% understaffed consisting mostly of Michigan, consisting mostly of Michigan. Mission-controlled mission-critical positions like nuclear waste safety.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Oh, no. Trump's 250th U.S. birthday celebration implodes as acts keep canceling. Actually, more acts have canceled than probably signed up in the first place. Louisiana approves its new maps eliminating one of two majority black dizzling. districts. 1,000 UAW workers go on strike against a GM supplier in Michigan today. Lastly, Hassan Piker and his biological uncle denied entry into the UK over criticism of Israel. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, it is...
Starting point is 00:03:36 Fun day, Monday. Fun day Monday. Hello, Sam. Oh, is this still about the Nix? No, no, no, no. I'm just making, not making eye contact you just with you, just to not derail the show by laughing. Oh, is there something, do I have something funny on? No, no, just you're reporting the news and the facts as they come in.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Just the facts. Just facts. I'm not going to editorialize on things. Welcome, folks. It is, we're stuck at a news. cycle sort of, I want to say a rut. That is not to diminish the horrors that are going on because they are horrors. It's just this rinse and repeat cycle that we're stuck on with the Iran war, where Donald Trump comes out, says we're on the brink of a deal. It's going to be a great deal.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It's the best deal. And then he gets a gets pressure because maybe he's giving the Iranians 10 times the amount of wealth that Obama did, when Obama in return got them to stop pursuing a nuclear weapons program. And Trump is really just getting them slightly back to where we were at the start of this war of choice that Israel and the U.S. decided to launch. And then Trump says we're close to a deal to help the stock market, really the five AI companies, apparently that are driving the stock market. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And then it falls apart. And we just keep going over and over again. And the idea is, I think, the longer they can stretch us out, they're hoping the less people realize that Donald Trump just lost a major war and probably is going to send inflation soaring beyond its extremely high rate right now. The VP of Exxon was talking about July as like the breaking point in terms of world supply of reserve oil or I should say world reserve oil
Starting point is 00:06:07 supplies. So we'll see. Donald Trump has managed to get this country and himself really more than anything else into a real
Starting point is 00:06:24 pickle. I don't know how else to say that. Like he went out over his skis. He, he, he's an idiot and um and yeah and the same reasons that uh we were scared of getting into this war uh are the same reasons that it's uh tough for trump to remove himself from it because iran has more leverage it's a large country and they've been able to exert that leverage and
Starting point is 00:06:54 all trump can really do is posture and bomb and the incentive for a guy like him is to escalate because he's worried about the humiliation that he's going to receive. And that's inevitable. And this is a fascinating turn of events. Just two days ago, no, yesterday, I should say, Marco Rubio blamed the real culprit in this whole thing. When it is to, this is amazing. when you think about how the level of hostility, the Trump administration regime has been to international norms, laws, and institutions, to hear Marco Rubio now whining that somebody's not coming to rescue the United States from our total disaster of a war. is almost funny. I think it's a real test for the UN, right? As a function, as something that functions
Starting point is 00:08:04 that can solve global problems. What is the purpose of the UN? The UN was supposed to be a place where you could peacefully resolve global conflict. Right now you have a country who is unlawfully, criminally, and illegally taking possession of an international waterway and blowing up commercial vessels
Starting point is 00:08:20 and putting mines in the water. I don't know people appreciate it like how outrageous this is, how unacceptable it is, that any country would fire and try to sink commercial vessels or put mines in the water. Both of these things are illegal. And so we're going to take it to the UN. Oh, I'm sorry. This was actually from a month ago, and it never went to the U.N.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And they never did anything. But Twitter is an unusable website. Yes. Well, that's right. But, I mean, the bottom line is none of that happened. I mean, the point of this is they never had a plan. they have been unable to execute the plan that they never had. And there is no, it doesn't seem to like,
Starting point is 00:09:02 like, it's not just flying blind. It is not knowing how to fly and doing so blind is really where we're at. Here's Donald Trump. This is what was this last night, two nights ago. This was at midnight last night. I really don't think that Donald Trump wrote this. This sounds like somebody, else in the administration wrote it, but Iran really wants to make a deal. And it'll be a good one for
Starting point is 00:09:33 the USA and those that are with us. But don't the dumb crats. I took out the B. That was my idea. Many people don't know there's a B and dumb, which meant, he said that over the weekend. Yes. That meant you didn't know there was a B and dumb. And I am telling you, this is not him writing this. This is someone writing it to make it sound like it's him. That's why they did the Democrats and various seemingly unpatriotic Republicans understand that it is much tougher for me to properly do my job and negotiate when political hacks keep negatively chirping at levels never seen before over and over again that I should move faster or move slower or go to war or not go to war or whatever. Just sit back and relax. It will work out well in the end
Starting point is 00:10:25 it always does. This is also like what he says to as he's probably when he was judging the Miss Universe contest. Sun Tzu Art of War is a complaint about the haters.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Have the haters ever heard about the tortoise and the hair? You're not making it easy on me. And the hair. It's negativity. It's like a golfer that somebody like is like letting out of air horns. Like quiet over there. I'm trying to put. And meanwhile, he can complain about the chirping, but it seems like there may be another issue for Iran.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And that is what's going on with just with Israel's incursion. I mean, I don't know, incursion sort of underplays it into. Lebanon. Here is just a report from two days ago, three days ago, Friday. Go ahead. Play this one here. From Sky. This is from Sky News. Yesterday, Israel really ratcheted up its forced evacuation orders. First of all,
Starting point is 00:11:45 telling Naveteer, where we were the entire city to evacuate, that's had a previous population of about 100,000, and then followed on a couple of hours later, telling the entire city of Tyre, this is the, consider the capital of the south, the population of about 200,000 people. It's meant to be the longest populated, inhabited city in the world. They told the entire city to evacuate. And then yesterday told the entire south of Lebanon, all the 230 to 300 villages and towns south of the zone.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Rani River, about 30 kilometres inside Lebanese territory to leave. That prompted a mass exodus from all these areas. This morning and overnight, they have been bombarded by airstrikes and drone strikes. Tire this morning had about seven airstrikes in this previously heavily populated area within about 10 minutes. The rescue workers, are staying in all these places. Those same Navatir ambulance crews are still in Nabatir as they have been peppered
Starting point is 00:13:04 by Israeli airstrikes and drone strikes this morning. In Tyre, there are still rescue workers and I understand at the moment trying to dig through rubble, trying to see if anyone has been trapped under these large buildings which have been
Starting point is 00:13:20 brought down this morning. So it is terrifying. And remember these evacuation orders, the Israeli military says it's giving advance warning. They're in effect on the ground orders to get out of the area because in their words they're declaring the entire area, the entire south of Lebanon, a combat zone and telling them leave or you risk dying and being injured. And that is what is happening to the people on the ground. At 3 o'clock this morning there was a forced evacuation order for one particular specific area in Tyre. Three o'clock in the morning when most people are sleeping,
Starting point is 00:13:56 usually at that time. I mean, it goes on and on. That was three days ago. Yeah. Israel is now bombing in the suburbs of Beirut. And of course, they don't bomb schools and hospitals or residential buildings, unless it's absolutely necessary. Unless, of course, they are.
Starting point is 00:14:26 doing that. I mean, I, you know, they very often find it necessary. Yeah. Just about every bomb they launch, it feels like at this point. I mean, don't call it, I think that that reporter, by the way, Alex, what is her last name? She's been doing great work, Alex Crawford.
Starting point is 00:14:42 But calling it an evacuation also is not accurate. They're doing a mass ethnic cleansing campaign and they're accelerating it as a way to sabotage the Iran ceasefire. They bombed Beirut when the initial ceasefire was announced in April or the deal.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It never really ceased fire. But when as soon as it appeared like Trump and Iran had an agreement, they did the most heavy bombardment that they had on the capital of Lebanon. This is another attempt to do that to undercut these negotiations, stealing land as fast as they can. And it worked. Iran says no more peace talks with the U.S. until Israel stops. its operations. And I should say also, there's plenty of stuff in the Israeli press about Israeli soldiers, obviously not all, probably not even close to the majority, coming back and being like, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:15:44 We're just randomly killing people and blowing up buildings for seemingly no people for seemingly no purpose. And meanwhile, people are complaining because Zohran Mamdani didn't march in the New York Israeli pride parade with literally an avowed fascist. Unreal. Chuck Schumer was there and he just said, of course he was. How important it is for us to remember that Jews in the United States need Israel because they live in constant anxiety that the Holocaust could happen again in the United States. We've got to do genocide and ethnic cleansing for Chuck Schumer's mental health. It is. Just James was there. It is so insane. The idea that Israel provides any type of security for Jews around the world is one of the most insane, blinkered, Orwellian concepts it is. The fact of the matter is
Starting point is 00:16:50 is that Israel has made Jews less safe, demonstrably so. Demonstrably so. The largest attack on Jews since the Holocaust did not happen in America. It happened in Israel. If they're so safe, why do they need to kill tens of thousands of children? Jews in this country don't need to do that. It's just insane. It is insane. I mean, like, it's not. I'm not a psychiatrist. But the idea that there isn't something clinically wrong with these people is very hard to believe. Yeah. Obviously, we'll have more on this probably tomorrow because this is just the way it keeps going.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And it's absolutely insane. I mean, the only upshot is that polling increasingly shows that politicians like Chuck Schumer and really, you know, the vast majority of of the political establishment in this country are increasingly out of touch, like miles and miles out of touch. Like, I don't think I've seen an issue where there has been this much universal agreement on what the U.S. must do in terms of policy change and the political establishment being so distant and just white-knuckled and trying to keep it together. You have APEC, like, trying to shroud itself in race after race after race in this country
Starting point is 00:18:42 and failing increasingly because they are so toxic. And it's not just because AAC and self is like there are, you know, obnoxious people who work there. It is because of the issue they're promoting. It is because of the relationship with Israel. And we will, over the next couple of days, maybe next week, talk about the latest scheme in which to integrate the Israeli war machine into our own Defense Department so that the question of funding becomes moot. And our fates are far more intertwined. I mean, this is just like, you know, one big thing on the to-do list for the next president,
Starting point is 00:19:34 because I don't think there'll be a president elected in this country who doesn't vow and commit to changing our relationship with Israel. It's going to be one of the most motivating issues for independence, because I've said this stat on Friday. But New York Times, Sienna, 43 percent of voters are dissatisfied with both major political parties. parties. And then the Times asked them specifically about issues. And Israel came up over and over again. 80% of dissatisfied voters in this poll here opposed economic and military aid to Israel with references to Israel and references to Israel came up time and time again in follow-up conversations according to the times. So it's not just, this is a very important issue for the exact crop of voters that both political. parties are trying to battle over in the election, the Democrats better get wise to it. It is fascinating to watch people like Josh Shapiro living. It's as if like there's a rip van
Starting point is 00:20:42 Winkle quality. And the only thing I could say, I mean, in his defense is this has moved very, very quickly for American politics. The difference between the perspective on Israel today and just four years ago is as dramatic as anything I've seen. Like, even more so than gay marriage. Yeah. Which flipped rather quickly,
Starting point is 00:21:06 but it was building in it, you know. It's the allegory of the wine cave of us, as I said, with the Josh Shapiro thing. These are people that are talking to other wealthy people and not to voters. In a moment, we're going to be talking to Wally Khan. reporter covering
Starting point is 00:21:24 state violence of working class America. He's been out at Delaney Hall, which is a ICE detention facility where there have been ongoing hunger strikes and then protests outside as
Starting point is 00:21:40 politicians try and get in there and reports of almost a dozen women who have had stillbirths and pregnancies end while in custody. And we will talk to him about those protests.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And then we'll be talking Jose Luis Granado Seha, journalists at Dropside News about our next war? I mean, will it be a war? It really maybe just depends on when Iran ends, but maybe it ends up being the way to distract from Iran. and I'm talking about Cuba. We will talk to him in just a moment. First, a couple of words from our sponsors.
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Starting point is 00:28:22 Quick break. We're right back with Wally Kahn. We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland on the majority report. Want to welcome back to the program, Wally Kahn, New York-based multimedia reporter covering state violence, working class America. And Wally, thank you for joining us. I know that you may be suffering from a concussion. and certainly you've been having some problems. Give us a sense of how that happened.
Starting point is 00:29:46 So that night, this was two nights ago, at Delaney Hall, there was a police line that was pushing back, a very small number of protesters, really, and they fired tear gas, used flashbangs. And it's really dark at Delaney Hall because there's just not many lights around the area. Near where the ice agents are staged, there are floodlights, but when you're closer towards the train tracks on that site,
Starting point is 00:30:12 they're really dark. And we were kind of jogging through that part of the site when the police line advanced. And I think it might have hit my head slightly against like a tree. But the flashbangs went off right next to me. So part of my left ears hearing. is a little bit off, but I've had migraines for the last two days. Well, I appreciate your coming on and talking to us about this. It sounds rough.
Starting point is 00:30:47 But let's back up a little bit and tell us what are these protests about? And what can you tell us about the Delaney Center? So the protest is about two things, really, which are actually kind of the same thing. Delaney Hall is a migrant detention center that is in Newark, New Jersey. It sits next to Essex, I think Essex County Correctional Facility. And I'm pretty sure there's a super fun site right next to it. I mean, the place, you can smell it from a mile away. Just bad vibes over there.
Starting point is 00:31:29 But like, when you talk to any family of a detainee or anybody who is, at Delaney Hall right now. They've all read the letters from the detainees that detail that the food is rotten. There were reports of maggots being in their food.
Starting point is 00:31:52 There were reports of detainees with HIV and chronic illnesses not giving proper medical care. And people put into solitary confinement for a very long time, which is, you know, torture under the Geneva Conventions.
Starting point is 00:32:12 But the other thing it's about is a more specific case. It is a case of Gabriella and Martin Soto. Martin Soto is a detainee right now in Elizabeth, New Jersey. He was transferred a few days ago from Delaney Hall. And there is a hunger strike, of course. We are in the 11th day of the hunger strike. And Martin Soto is the organizer of this hunger strike. On the outside, last Friday, I've been out since last Friday.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I mean, I've been out very late at this facility because there was just a lack of any reporters there. This was before the ICE agents turned up. And Gabriella was the initial organizer. for the protests. And she's been very vocal about immigrant rights. And Martin Soto was put into solitary confinement or ICE has, I guess, another term for it, like disciplinary segregation or something, which sounds worse, actually. But, you know, he was at the heart of this protest for the first few days,
Starting point is 00:33:36 was that every protester was forming barricades that you saw in the news because they needed to check each car coming out of the facility whether or not Martin was in there. And Martin was transferred by being tricked. He was told that he could put on his street clothes, the clothes that he was wearing when he got detained for being undocumented. And he was given a piece of paper that said release on it. and and then they
Starting point is 00:34:08 snuck him out to another facility they beat him this is this is what's happening at Delaney Hall and since then protesters have
Starting point is 00:34:20 you know pushed back I remember that night I was there there must have been maybe I don't know six journalists there instead of maybe
Starting point is 00:34:30 the 50 that you see there and of the six I was a couple of them were photographers and I was photographing and then somebody screams ISIS here, ICE is here and it's just like
Starting point is 00:34:43 eight or nine agents that seem like new recruits and one senior figure who was saying hold the line, hold the line but then they were chased off by protesters and the next day there were more than
Starting point is 00:35:00 30 or 40 agents staged outside Delaney Hall and so it's been chaos since. I want to go through that timeline, if you don't mind Wally, just because you mentioned the 11 days. So detainees have been on a hunger and labor strike beginning May 22nd, recording this on June 1st. And the detainees have been beaten for speaking out, have been retaliated against, including this transfer of the man that you just mentioned who helped organize this.
Starting point is 00:35:38 But can you take us through the New Jersey state police response and the timeline of it? Because over the past few days, it appears like Governor Cheryl has really turned on the protesters despite initially showing up to the site and has sent New Jersey state police
Starting point is 00:35:59 onto the protesters who had been trying to, to block vans leaving the facility to transfer many of the organizers of these strikes to different facilities to break it up. Cheryl now over the past few days of the peers has participated in sending New Jersey police to do the work for them. Yeah, so I think two or three days ago, You know, what this is really similar to is actually Broadview, Illinois. I recall I was across the street from Delaney Hall a few days ago, and I told a colleague, they're going to put a fence up, like, eventually, and then their barricades will come down.
Starting point is 00:36:48 It's the same thing, and the state police will move in. This happened in Broadview, Illinois, and this happened in New Jersey, like clockwork. And so two or three days ago, we get a notice, you know, a press release saying that there was going to be a free speech zone or I think it was First Amendment zone established and there would be more barricades and fences. But then New Jersey police started and state police started moving in on protesters. And it's been like that ever since. had photos or seen really many ice agents be the ones brutalizing protesters in the last few days. There were a couple of incidences, but most of the violence is coming from geo-group employees and New Jersey State Police, especially the mounted unit. I mean, that's so dangerous.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah. And the mounted unit you're talking about, they were on horseback. Yeah, they were enforced that. Yeah, I was just clarifying that language. You mentioned Geo Group there. Geo Group has a $1 billion contract to run Delaney Hall. And for people that aren't aware, Trump's new pick to head ice, David Ventruella is former Geo Group executive. The Geo Group is notorious as a private prison company for its abuses, but it feels like they've been unshackled in many ways. in this instance, like they're forcing these detainees to perform so-called voluntary jobs for
Starting point is 00:38:31 $1 a day. They're cutting medical care to the bone in that they only have, say, one doctor to treat all of these different patients that need all of this medical care. So they're trying to make a profit by paying workers for so-called voluntary work for as little as they possibly can, $1 a day, cutting down on doctors, and feeding them rotten food. and this is all under the guise of privatization making the warehousing of these individuals more efficient. This, I talked to some of the detainees who,
Starting point is 00:39:12 there was a girl who was there to protest, but her mother was in the detention center. And she video called in and let me talk to the detainees. and they kept saying that they were being threatened with solitary confinement and punishments if they kept asking about the protests outside. There was another man, his name was Kevin. His brother is in there. His brother fell in the shower, and geo-group employees left him on the ground for 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:39:53 When Kevin called him into the... You know, and mind you, his brother has been in medical confinement for days, um, medical isolation. And when, uh, his, there's just a lot of cognitive problems right now happening with his and it's just the conditions inside, it's just terrifying from what I'm in hearing. Well, have you heard, um, I mean, I've heard stories of similar stories. to conditions in detention centers in northern New Hampshire, I think one in Maine. And my sense is there's no reason to believe that this one particular geo-group detention center has dropped the ball.
Starting point is 00:40:52 and the rest are, you know, somehow behaving any differently. Have you heard anything similar? Do we know? And if so, is it, is it this centers proximity to New York and the media around here? Is that the determining factor
Starting point is 00:41:11 as to like why we hear more about and why we see more protests at Delaney as opposed to one in, I don't know, Berlin, New Hampshire? This is a really good question. I think what's remarkable about the New Jersey protest is I'm trying to like center the detainees here for a second year because an action from or a protest from within the detention center that is really rarely seen. It takes a lot of courage, a lot of organizing. in Broadview, Illinois, one of the central, and mind you, different detention centers and different
Starting point is 00:41:54 flashpoints in different states, there are different conditions to these. Broadview, Illinois, which I covered, was a short-term housing facility, meaning that nobody was supposed to be kept in there for longer than 48 hours, meaning that there were no showers. And so one of the one of like the central things about that facility was that it was like it's nature, right? It was a small, very small facility in the middle of nowhere. I wouldn't call Broadview Nowhere, but, you know, it is defined by its proximity to Chicago. That's why there were, it became a flashpoint. New Jersey, I think one of the big, and it became a flashpoint in Broadview, but then, you know, numbers do.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And because it's hard to get there, this specific place, Delaney Hall, it is close to New York. It is close. You can get there pretty easily through public transport. You know, you take the path train and then take the 25 and then you just end up at Delaney Hall, like right at the parking lot. And so I think that has also been a big factor. I think the fact that the detainees on the inside are being beaten and sprayed with pepper. spray and CS gas for this strike is one of the big factors. I think the disproportionate militarized response from the state police and from ice agents,
Starting point is 00:43:29 spraying protesters has been a big deal as well for a lot of the people who keep up with the news. like they might not know what started this protest, though it's very important, but they do see that very young kids, you know, college-aged, are being brutalized. Wally, where can people follow your coverage of this? My Instagram is at Wally underscore Talks, W-A-L-I-U-A-L-K-S. My work appears on Democracy Now.
Starting point is 00:44:06 and sometimes at New York Magazine. But my work is just usually on Instagram, and I'm very much on the ground. All right. Well, we will link to that and really appreciate you coming on. Maybe get yourself checked out. Just, you know, make sure everything's all right. Exactly. Really appreciate the work you're doing.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Very important stuff. Thanks, Molly. Thank you. Thank you for having me on. All right, folks. going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to be talking to Jose Luis Granado Seja, journalists at Dropsite News covering Latin America about the potential for an imminent U.S. invasion, intervention, coup, I don't know, in Cuba, and also our now regular practice of blowing up boats
Starting point is 00:45:01 that are in the the Caribbean Sea, sometimes in the Pacific, because we can. So, well, we will talk to him about that as well. Also, I just want to mention that
Starting point is 00:45:21 getting a lot of requests about covering Dave Rubin on his surrounded. We will do a little bit of coverage today, but very likely in the fun half tomorrow, the vast majority of it may be just letting this stuff run because I don't think there's been a more humiliating appearance for any individual in any context at any time.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I haven't seen any clips yet. I'm trying to keep away so we can have the purest response to it. It is more subtle than you would have. imagine, but it is the relentlessness of it. And also, you know, I got to hand it to Dave Rubin. Like, you know, a lot of people will get flustered and have some measure of shame that they were just like, like literally just lying after lying. He didn't seem to do that. And so I think he's a lot of pain tolerance or humiliation tolerance.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I like that, you know, I sometimes worry we're too focused on Dave Rubin. And when something like this happens, it just validates like when everybody else has given him all this attention. and we haven't even got to it yet. Yes. Oh, yeah, this is actually an important story. How stupid this guy is. We've been doing journalism all this time. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Also, we have some inside information, but we'll go and on there, but apparently they cut around it. We're going to talk about that. That's a huge controversy, and I may sue. Also, I just want to note, according to Hyptrain in Caboose, Hyptrain Caboos, Galactic 1 on Twitch, just donated 200. Yes, 200 subscriptions. Whoa. That is 200 poggers.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I don't even know how you do that. That's a big donation. How do you do that? 200 donations? Anyways, major poggers. Thank you, Galactic one. Pretending to know what that means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:27 We're going to take a quick break. we come back, Jose Luis Granado Seha will be joining us. We are back, Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland on The Majority Report. I want to welcome back to the program, Jose Luis Granado Sea. Journalists at DropSite News covering Latin America. Jose, thanks so much for joining us. You've written a piece, I guess it was 10 days ago, about the potential for an imminent, I don't know, attack on Cuba.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And then I don't know if it was, I guess it was just days before that, that we had this big leak of intelligence from the CIA, just by chance, I guess, that Cuba was playing to invade the United States. Now, I watched Red Dawn. the original. And so I'm very familiar how this would go down. But where would be the Soviet Union in this? Because I think they provided most of the troops. Good point. When the, like, who is this for? Who is that information for? Like, who is that going to convince that Cuba is going to invade the United States? I mean, you'd be amazed at how well this sort of propaganda actually does
Starting point is 00:49:52 work. It's interesting because it looks like a pretty concerted effort at this point. If you couple it with the indictment of Raul Castro for the alleged murder of the brothers to the rescue pilots who were shot down in Cuban airspace, well, then you see that is an effort to kind of manufacture consent. It seems like the United States government right now is very much intent on regime changing Cuba, one way or another, you know, either by starving the population, conducting this medieval style siege, denying them oil. I mean, just pause for a second, right? No country can function without oil, and none has come in since December, actually, except for the one boat that made it through from Russia. So, you know, this is clearly an effort by the United States to set the stage
Starting point is 00:50:36 for some kind of intervention, either a decapitation strike, an actual invasion, right? They're trying to make Cuba into a boogeyman. It's also why you see these Fox News exposés about the solidarity missions, the humanitarian efforts conducted by organizations like the North America Convoy. They want to paint Cuba as a boogeyman to justify what they intend to do, which is, if in the case of an invasion or an attack, it's going to be a bloodbath, as the Cuban foreign minister has now repeatedly said, at many occasions, including at the United Nations. Well, give us a sense of, like, what the potential ways in which the United States will do this. I mean, the outcome, it seems to me, is pretty clear as to what the United States wants,
Starting point is 00:51:23 or at least, you know, what our regime here wants, which is a collapse of the government in such a way that whoever takes over then basically says, and we just had that Supreme Court decision, and maybe you can talk to about what that opens up for these interests, they want it to be an implosion. They don't want a soft landing because a soft landing, makes it much harder for U.S. interests and Cuban expats who gain their interest during the Batista regime, an incredibly oppressive regime, they want to be able to go back and get this money. They want the beachfront property.
Starting point is 00:52:05 They want the manufacturing, maybe the sugar. And that can only happen if there is an implosion as opposed to a soft landing. So walk us through how the different ways in which that might be achieved. You're absolutely right. They want things as simple as possible. And I think in a lot of ways, what's happened in Venezuela after the kidnapping of Maduro is pretty instructive. They want stability. They want to make sure that the country is accessible, particularly for the Cuban exile community,
Starting point is 00:52:35 largely based out of Florida, so they can come back in, take everything that was nationalized back and, you know, turn it back into what it looked like during the Batista. years. What could it look like? I think it's, you're right, about the strategy being trying to suffocate the population as much as possible. That's sort of the easy way, which is just to create so much, so much suffering, so much need on the island that almost by inertia, the government ends up collapsing. That's unlikely, right? I think it's important to remember that Cuba's a very different system than the one we had in Venezuela, for example. It's far more consolidated. The Cuban Communist Party is very deeply embedded in society. The armed forces are extremely loyal, right? These come from the cadre of the communist
Starting point is 00:53:19 party. So it's unlikely to see that kind of scenario. But that is what they're aiming for, to make conditions just so unbearable that things start to fall apart. And things are pretty, pretty serious right now as we speak. A colleague of mine at Augustine has done a couple of reports now for the times where he talks about situations actually outside of the Capitol, because I think a lot of times the attention is always on Havana. It's obviously the easiest place to get to, but he went to Santiago, which is obviously much poorer. This is Cuba's second largest city.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And, you know, he describes a very, very grim scenario where people, you know, are cooking with carbon inside of their own homes. For those of them who can afford it, the other ones are going out there and chopping down trees and gathering up wood to be able to cook over wood fire. I mean, this is just to be able to feed their families. So things are really rough. That's the idea. to make things so unbearable that there is unrest,
Starting point is 00:54:13 a kind of a 2021 scenario where you see mass protests in the streets. And there certainly are. There's an uptick of discontent in Cuba. You know, people do take to the streets. They're understandably tired of living under this circumstances. Things are really quite difficult for them. I mean, imagine, like I said, living without access to electricity, you may be half hours of electricity a day,
Starting point is 00:54:36 which means you basically can't get anything done. There's no transportation. There's no way to bring food from the countryside to the market. I mean, this is the idea. But I will say this, the Cubans are also preparing for direct military aggression. It could go that way. Cuba's intelligence system is notoriously renowned. You know, it's known to be quite adept at kind of penetrating into the exile community,
Starting point is 00:55:00 for example. And as far as they know, you know, there is a very serious plan right now being drawn up for direct military aggression. And it could be a decapitation strike. I think the indictment against Raul Castro is a sign of what they could do. We have to remember how was the kidnapping of Maduro sold to the public as a law enforcement operation. They could easily make that kind of argument in the case of Raul Castro. Obviously, he doesn't hold any official positions.
Starting point is 00:55:26 This was also how they went after Noriega as well. Exactly. Exactly. So there's precedent for it. And they feel justified. And I think also the lack of a outcry from the region, especially against. the kidnapping of Maduro against the extraditional execution campaigns in the Caribbean and the Pacific has allowed the United States to feel like, well, now we have this indictment and we can act on it.
Starting point is 00:55:48 They might do it. They might do it. It would send a chill down the spine of the Cuban leadership if they did try something like this. But I think it has also served to rally the Cuban population. We saw immediately after that indictment a mass mobilization in front of the U.S. interest office there on the Malekone and Havana. So we do know that the population, despite what I just said about them, you know, understandably being frustrated with us, are not entertaining this notion. They're not falling for it, right? They're not going to be convinced by the United States acting as if it is interested in justice. I think the Cubans have sufficient experience with the United States to know that that's not really their motivation. Are there, is there any talk or attempts to get?
Starting point is 00:56:33 oil to the island outside of that one ship that passed through from from Russia. I mean, where is Mexico on this? Because I want to talk about the bombing of the boats in the Caribbean and as well on the Pacific. But I guess if I'm Mexico and I'm thinking about sending a ship, the bombing of those boats have done nothing in terms of narcotics. There was, you know, there's no reason to believe that even the narcotics were coming, that end up in the United States are coming from Venice well or whatnot. Those essentially are going to Europe. And we don't even know if those boats,
Starting point is 00:57:18 frankly, we know in certain instances they were definitely fishermen, but we don't know, you know, who's on those boats anyways. But it does basically say like, hey, we have a total disregard for international law. We don't care about human life. And there hasn't been a single congressional hearing. You know, maybe it gets mentioned on the TV occasionally, but we can do it. And so, you know, if you give us a reason, that makes it even easier for us. Yep. I think that's exactly what's happening. I think a lot of people seem to believe that it's just the terror threat. And I don't think that alone would be enough to stop countries from wanting to send oil to Cuba. I think it is very much this fear that effectively the United States has turned the Caribbean into a sea without any laws where anybody can act.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And I do think this is my own personal hypothesis that in the case of Mexico in particular, the veto that the United States is imposing around the shipment of oil is very much one that comes with an implicit military threat. And we have to remember that the United States has a keen interest in a military intervention in Mexico. They have talked about this openly. Trump talks about it being run by cartels. Just yesterday, the president of Mexico, Gladia Scheimbaum, gave a very defiant speech here in Mexico city warning about U.S. intervention and their intents to possibly intervene in the political life of Mexico, but also with an eye towards the midterms, right? So there is a worry here in Mexico that the U.S. intends to do far more than what they're already
Starting point is 00:58:50 doing. We saw this recent report about a military agreement with Guatemala. Now, Guatemala tried to walk it back, but they didn't deny it. They said that they would be Guatemalan-led operations, but nonetheless, it is U.S. operations on Guatemalan soil, according to the reporting. That's pretty extraordinary. And more worrisome is that apparently the mission is to try to convince Honduras to try to squeeze Shyamong, to make it so that Mexico is an outlier in the region, the only country that's refusing to cooperate with the United States on military operations on land. So the threat is very real. You know, this one boat that made it from Russia,
Starting point is 00:59:27 happened because basically Trump on that occasion said, yes, there were Coast Guard boats in the area that could have intercepted it. They didn't give the order to do it. So it seems like it's just kind of policy on the fly. But obviously, the problem is that it's the Cubans who are paying the price. You know, Mexico wants to send oil to Cuba. But the U.S. is vetoing that through its coercive instruments that it has at its disposal. Are there other mechanisms to provide medicine and medical devices to Cuba. I mean, we saw the flotilla. I know of other people who are taking trips there,
Starting point is 01:00:11 flying there, sometimes with just their suitcase full of medicines. And I wonder, although I would imagine now, like, with the squeeze on oil, it becomes harder to have even outside people come and bring in this stuff. I mean, how do you even transport it within the island and whatnot? But are they getting other supplies outside of oil? So you make a really interesting point. If you allow me to just kind of go on a tangent for a second here, Marco Rubio has been talking about this $100 million in aid that is ready to arrive, right? The only string attached is that it can't be distributed by the state.
Starting point is 01:00:53 So we actually, in our report, talked to the executive director of Pastors for Peace, Claudia de la Cruz. They have decades of experience working, bringing humanitarian aid directly to Cuba. And she told me something. She said that essentially, without the state, there's no way to distribute that. This idea of 100 million aid is just part of a psychological warfare operation to try to influence the opinions of the Cuban population directly. You can hear it in his interventions.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Rubio says, if the Cuban population is listening to me, tell them we have a hundred million in aid waiting for them. They actually provided somewhere around 10 million in promised aid earlier this year after Hurricane Melissa, and only 2.5 of that, according to the Cuban government, has actually been distributed. So now you're telling me that they're going to distribute 100 million aid without the help of the state. It's impossible. That's what makes me think that it's part of a sci-off. It's part of this idea to try to show this notion that the Cuban government is somehow denying this aid from arriving. there because actually they responded. They're very much interested in receiving aid from whom's
Starting point is 01:01:57 ever willing to bring it, be it a convoy. Mexico has now sent, I think, four or five ships full of aid. China has sent food aid as well. So we see that there is a determined effort to stay off a humanitarian crisis. This is what we're talking about. I mean, we're talking about, you know, child mannutrition starting to rise. We're talking about the infant mortality rate now increasing. This is a recent report from the Center for Economic and Policy Research pointing to the hardened blockade that is causing the informal mortality rate to once again rise in a country that actually had made incredible progress when it comes to the issue of health of their population. Yeah, I think this is really important to emphasize because I don't know that people
Starting point is 01:02:41 fully appreciate how developed the medical care and by health metrics, the Cuban people doing as well, if not better than many countries in the region, but just in general. I mean, I think in some metrics better than the United States. So when we talk about these things rising, it is a direct result of simply the lack of power. Like, you know, medical care, medical devices rely on energy. And if you're not allowed to have any of that, people are going to suffer. But I just want to make it clear. This is the Cuban medical system was very, very advanced.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Insofar as they also had just like great training for their doctors. And so people should appreciate that. What where does this fit within the sort of like larger, I hate to use the word Donroe Doctrine, but it feels like that. Like, you know, I don't know. Peter Thiel goes down to Argentina, which is a little bit on the nose, but it just makes you wonder. And what's going on with Millay and sort of like, can you see a broader, plan here or i mean i you know it's hard to say plan coming out of the the the trump
Starting point is 01:04:26 administration but do you see the shapes of one here without a doubt there's clearly a plan here for continental domination and i'm specific with that word domination it's not just about influence it's not about control it's about domination and they're going after all of the rebellious countries that are in the region so obviously were talking about Cuba. We saw the first round election results in the United States, or sorry, in Colombia with the interference of the United States. We had Senator Bernie Moreno, who was there as an observer, but actually actively campaigning in favor of one of the candidates. Elard de la L'es Pirela meeting with Under Secretary Landau in Miami, some of the same kind of people who are
Starting point is 01:05:09 involved in the regime change efforts against Cuba are also connected to this character, Maria Salazar from Florida. So you also have cases like the Honduras gate, right, where it shows that there was a clear strategy to put a favorable person in power in Honduras with an eye towards returning Juan Orlando Hernandez, the convicted narco trafficker, back into power. And in order to have him be kind of an attack dog, right, going after explicitly, according to these leaked audios, Colombia, Mexico, because they're the countries that are an impediment to the United States agenda in the region. because they are worried about, you know, the pushback. For example, I think about what's happening in Bolivia. That's a U.S. Allied president right now, one of the most recent election, FAS is his name, and is facing a genuine uprising of the country's campasinos and working class
Starting point is 01:06:03 because he's trying to implement that neoliberal pro-U.S. agenda, and he's finding resistance to it. So the way that the United States feels I can get past this is through a militarized strategy. That's why you see things like the shield of the Americas, which is supposed to be around narcotics, but they make a statement in favor of President Pass of Bolivia. Why is that? Because that is kind of the spinal column of the strategy, right?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Militarized strategy first. Bombings in the Caribbean, bombings in Ecuador, kidnapping presidents, you know, backing far-right leaders in the region, you know, throwing them a bone, whatever, to prop them up. This is clearly the strategy. This is what they end. these countries that defend sovereignty that say, well, we're going to go things our own way, we want to use our natural resources to provide for our populations. That's a problem for the United States because they need to have direct virtually limitless access to the natural resources
Starting point is 01:06:58 and the labor power that's here in this region, be able to continue with their global plan, which is about having this rivalry with their pre-arrival China. I want to talk a little more about the specifics of that agenda so that people understand that. but I just also want to note in Bolivia, my understanding is within the past week or two, the legislature has essentially taken the guardrails off the Bolivian presidency's ability to, for lack of a better term, declare a state of emergency and suspend a lot of the rights there, which I think is the first time this has happened in a couple of times. of decades, which, you know, this is the, that's how you march to a full on sort of like
Starting point is 01:07:50 next generation dictatorship down there. Let's be more specific about this agenda. I mean, because what's fascinating is, you know, I went to school in the 80s, and this is all what we learned about. When we talked about U.S. foreign policy, it was very much about the relentless interference and inhibition of democracy in Central America and Latin America because we were getting all sorts of resources from, you know, this hemisphere, whether it was oil or bananas at one point or sugar and some of this cheap labor. Is it still all those things? Is it just basically like, Like, we're no longer going to be, you know, we're going to leave Asia to Asia and we're just going to create our new, you know, our own sort of like a backyard of where we go digging for oil when we want it and we go digging for precious metals when we want it. And we get sugar, you know, to the extent that we need it.
Starting point is 01:09:05 And oil, is that basically what it is? like we're just going to have U.S. multinationals just expand their extraction of Central and Latin America. It's absolutely that. It's absolutely an interest about resources and access to these markets as well. Again, to go back to Venezuela, what happened after the kidnapping of Maduro, it was about facilitating as much as possible U.S. multinationals, U.S. oil companies to come in and extract the resources. It is very much that model. And I think what there, what is somewhat, different about this, about Donald Trump's second government here, second administration, is precisely the emphasis on the Western Hemisphere. There seemed to be before a broader view and understanding that U.S. influence could reach across the entire globe. For Donald Trump,
Starting point is 01:09:53 there is very much an interest about this hemisphere above all, to have it close to home, it's almost kind of like the dark side of the near-shoring phenomenon, this idea that having it in our hemisphere, hunting under a quote-unquote sphere of influence, quote-unquote, backyard is far more feasible and far more favorable to their broader agenda, to make it easier for them to be able to consider what things can look like when they do engage in adventures, military, or otherwise, farther away from home. And it makes it so that there is this multi-prong, multi-headed, however you want to call it, strategy that involves diplomatic pressure, that involves outright interference in elections, that involves this military strategy of trying to really put the
Starting point is 01:10:37 pressure on every government and the ones who dare fall out of line will face the wrath of the U.S. forces and their weaponry applied against them. It feels like there's almost an analogy between what Haiti represented, and in many respects still does, but what Haiti represented to the United States 150, I can't do the math, 160 years ago in that like, and that Cuba represents that today. If Cuba survives without having to capitulate to the United States, it basically signals to the rest of the hemisphere. It's doable.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It may be, but it's doable. And as much as like, you know, the Cuban expat community in Florida is important to the, it feels like that is at the end of the day the most important thing. from the perspective of this administration to quash, is the idea that anybody could stand up to the United States? It's definitely a big part of it, but it's also because Cuba has resisted. It has been able to oust a U.S. back dictator.
Starting point is 01:11:52 It has been able to resist a U.S.-backed invasion, countless assassination plots against its leadership, the pressure of the U.S. blockade that has persisted over decades, despite the rejection of virtually the entire world. And yet there they are, even in these circumstances, I can't imagine another country, given the way that things are right now in Cuba, that would have still survived, that would still be standing as Cuba still is in this moment. And it's a testament to the consolidation of their political system, but also the determination
Starting point is 01:12:23 of the population, right? I was recently there in April, and it was extraordinary. You know, people obviously, they understand what's happening. They know that this is a product of the blockade. They are frustrated that there's not a solution. still, but they're not going to give up. You know, I keep thinking about this interview I did with a militia member. So the militia is a volunteer force.
Starting point is 01:12:43 It's not the reservists, not the armed forces, but kind of a third force that has been mobilizing, that they have been preparing them, training them with renewed vigor. She said, you know, if there's one word in the Cuban dictionary that doesn't exist, it's surrender. They're not going to give in easily, which is, I think it's something important for policymakers, for people in Washington to take into consideration. you know, where do they think this is going to land? Where do they think this is going to go? I mean, are they going to try to occupy Cuba in order to guarantee the security situation there if they do
Starting point is 01:13:15 assassinate the leadership or kidnap them? I mean, it would not be an easy scenario. And I think that's why you've seen the Cuban leadership kind of really stepping up their rhetoric to warn that this will be a bloodbath, but it'll be losses on both sides. It won't be pretty. It's if Donald Trump thinks that attacking Cuba is going to be a way to save face after the debacle that he has started with Iran. He's sorely mistaken. Obviously, you know, it's Cuba can't stand up, you know, to the military might of the United States. But they have training. They have a military doctrine, which is the people's war, the war of all the people, which is very much focused on precisely that, on making sure that there is going to be a very long, bloody insurgency if the United States decides
Starting point is 01:14:01 to attack Cuba. Jose Luis Gras Sayha, thank you so much for your time today. Really appreciate it. We'll link to your coverage at DropSight. Really fascinating. And people should remember, I mean, obviously, like, you know, 90 miles off the coast of Key West, just neighboring the Dominican Republic, I mean, the, you don't, like, the idea of us bombing Cuba.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And level in Cuba, it is much easier for the United States to get away with other rising, I think, the Iranian people and the Iranian regime than it would be to do that 90 miles off the coast of Florida. And so I would imagine if there is going to be some type of invasion, they're going to go in on the ground and attempt to do something like they did in Venezuela. of, but I don't think they have the same, I don't think they've penetrated the Cuban government or could, frankly, in the way that they had penetrated the Venezuelan one. And I think that is, I think that's probably why it hasn't happened yet. Really appreciate your time today. No, I really appreciate the time with you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Thanks. All right, folks. We're going to head into the fun half of the program. We will do one clip of the Dave Rubin disaster. And then maybe it may do like, exactly. We may just do five days of Dave Rubin programming. Or just the entire fun half tomorrow and do nothing. I think that's probably what we're going to do.
Starting point is 01:15:49 An actual fun half. I mean, I do have an eye appointment, so we have to be out of here by like five. But, you know. There you got, exactly. I just want to say this on the free side of the show. We have heard reports, unconfirmed reports, that during the surrounded episode that Dave Rubin shot, that many participants raised my name.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I have sources to say the first question that was asked by the first person. I've watched a little bit of this Dave Rubin thing. I've watched the whole thing, because I want to keep it fresh. But I did not see any mention of my name. Now, having done the Surrounded, they did, like, give me an opportunity to edit. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:48 I think Dave asked for that opportunity. Well, I'm sure that's, I'm sure they give it to everybody. It wasn't like, you know, I negotiated. No, I know. It occurred to me. And all I did was from my edits, was like, I'd like a fact check here because whatever that person is saying, it's not true.
Starting point is 01:17:05 So just to add a fact check. I couldn't remember. It'd been two months. I can't remember what happened last week. I couldn't remember anything. So I was like, yeah, fine. I'm not going to watch the whole fucking thing. But I am quite sure that if it is the case that my name came up,
Starting point is 01:17:25 uh, Dave had demanded those to be edited out before he left the building. There is not one single mention of your name. And so I just want to say, because I know that we have people who listen to the show who have been on surrounded in the past as a panelist, send us an email at majority reporters at gmail.com and say, you know, the subject line surrounded. Or release the cedar cut. Exactly. Well, once we get it confirmed, I just want to. confirmed that the name come up. But then I think like Jubilee owes it to the public to see what really went on.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Just a super cut of all the parts you took out, mentioning Sam would be fine. I just think that like, look, the spirit of it is debate in exchange. And the idea that Dave insisted on cutting out. Now, I'm not saying he did. I don't know. But I also would welcome Dave. rubean to come on the show formal invite come on the show and tell me that my name wasn't cut out of it
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Starting point is 01:19:23 I bet we did too with that big donation. Damn yeah. Join the Majority Report.com. In the meantime, also just coffee.coop, fair trade coffee, hot chocolate. use the coupon code majority get 10% off. Matt, what's happening in the Matt? Oh, and I should also say, before I go, today, I don't know if it's live.
Starting point is 01:19:50 I don't know how this works, but I've been, I'm going on the, what is it called, the RM, what? R.M. Brown. R.M. Brown show. Green turns Brown. Yeah. Green turns brown. Green.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I am green. I will, I am in consultation with attorneys at the moment. And I will be delivering a, potentially, I'm not sure if you're in fact, but I might, cease and desist order on the use of my saying the word poop, which. And toilet. And toilet. Which, you know, our. Brown is apparently feasted on. Had a better way to put that.
Starting point is 01:20:43 I didn't mean it that way. Gosh, Emma is like, I'm just like, I'm a turn green. Yeah. Well, you know what happens to green? Turns brown. So I think that's today at 4 p.m.ish. Matt, what's happening on left reckoning? Yeah, left reckoning.
Starting point is 01:21:06 We talked about the meat. politics in Texas where, you know, the fixation on James Taurico eating a turkey leg. There's a lot of turkey leg truthers down there. Demas country. I know. Yeah. And also, a crystal ball had
Starting point is 01:21:21 Jeremy Benamy on and her and Ryan Grimm talked to ask him some fundamental questions and he decided to agree to disagree on things like demographic imperatives for ethnostates. So check that out. Patreon.com says left reckoning to get all of that. And if you haven't yet,
Starting point is 01:21:38 Check out my latest episode with Matt Bernstein, a bit fruity, his podcast. So we did a deep dive into Kevin O'Leary, who's been in the news for his AI data center. Annoying man. I mean, he really is Canadian Trump. We go through his career and, you know, specifically as it relates to that data center as well, that they are trying to construct in Utah. What's the biggest thing of value that Kevin O'Leary has added to society? Absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 01:22:05 I mean, he, you can watch the episode, but like. Tank legend. He's just like, he's Trump. He's play the rich guy on TV. And he initially made his fortune by selling like educational software. And it came out later that I think it was Mattel that bought it that he had, they had basically kind of cook the books allegedly and overvalued a lot of things prior to the purchase. And he cashed out right in time. And then, you know, he watches to buy. Yeah. So check out that episode. Quick break, fun half. Jamie and I may have a disagreement.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yeah, you can't just say whatever you want about people just because you're rich. I have an absolute right to mock them on YouTube. He's up their buggy whipping like he's the boss. I am not your employer. You know, I'm tired of the negativity. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. You're nervous. You're a little bit upset.
Starting point is 01:23:04 You're riled up. Yeah, maybe you should rethink your defense of that, you're fucking idiots. We're just going to get rid of you. All right. But dude. Dude. Dude. Dude.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Dude. Uh, you want to smoke this. Jo? Yes. Do you feel like you are a dinosaur? It's a good shit. Exactly. I'm happy now. It's a win, win, win. It's a win, win, win. Uh, hell yeah. Now listen to me.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Two, three, four, five times. 847, 906, 501, four, five, seven, two, 38, 56, 27, 27, one, five, five, seven, one, half, five, eights, three point, nine billion. Wow. He's the ultimate math nerd. Don't you see? Why don't you get a real job instead of stealing vitriol and hatred you left wing limb? Everybody's taking their dumb juice today.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Come on, Sammy. Dance, dance, dance. Ooh. My first post-coital scene with a woman. I'm hoping to add more moves to my repertoire. All I have is the dip in the swirl. Fine, we can double dip. Yes, this is a perfect moment.
Starting point is 01:24:16 No. Wait, what? You make under a million dollars a year. You're scum. You're not paying me. Fuck you. You fucking. liberal elite. I think you belong in jail.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Thank you for saying that, Sam. You're a horrible, despicable person. All right. Going to take quick break. I want to take a moment to talk to some of the libertarians out there. Take whatever vehicle you want to drive to the library. What you're talking about is jibberjap. Classic. I'm feeling more chill already.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Donald Trump can kiss all of our asses. Hey Sam, hey, Andy. Are you guys ready to do some evil? Hitler was such an idiot. You think I might be a Nazi. Agreed. No. Death to America.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Do. Yes. Wow. Wow, that's weird. No way. Unbelievable. This guy's got a really good hook. Throw our hands up.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Wow. Damn, I gotta get off. No worries. Listen, I want to just flesh this out a little bit. I mean, look, it's a free speech issue if you don't like me. Hey, hey, hey, hey, shut up. Thank you for calling into the majority report. Sam will be with you shortly.

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