The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3664 The Rise of DSA & The Populist Left w/ Hasan Piker, Darializa Avila Chevalier

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

It's an Emmajority Report Thursday on The Majority Report On today's program: Trump joins Fox & Friends to announce that the U.S. will resume heavy bombing of Iranian infrastructure. Former Trump military adviser, Keith Kellogg uses his appearance on Fox News to appeal to the president to finish the job quickly and just "obliterate" Iran. Hasan Piker joins the show to discuss the DSA slate of candidates in New York and the nationwide midterm elections. Darializa Avila Chevalier, DSA-backed candidate running to represent New York's 13th congressional district, joins to talk about her campaign. In the Fun Half: Brandon Sutton and Matt Binder join the show. A former Trump comms director says that democrats screwed up by not nominating the 'hilarious black woman', referring to Jasmine Crockett. Republicans are using AI to attack James Talarico by putting him in a dress, singing about trans kids. Republicans are having a difficult time figuring out how to attack Graham Platner as they have no ground to stand on when it comes to personal conduct. All that and more. To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AM Quickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: ZBIOTICS: head to ZBiotics.com/MAJORITY and use the code MAJORITY at checkout for 15% off. DELETEME: Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to www.joindeleteme.com/MAJORITY and use promo code MAJORITY at checkout. SUNSET LAKE CBD: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.  

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report. We are broadcasting live steps. the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Hassan Piker, ever heard of him? Twitch streamer, political commentator, he's going to join us to talk DSA, the rise of the populist left, and more. And later in the show, Darius, Darya Lisa Avila Chevalier, candidate for Congress in New York's 13th Congressional District, will be with us to talk about her race. Also on the program,

the U.S. bombs Iran for the second straight night as ceasefire talks break down predictably. The U.S. also struck a commercial vessel in the Gulf of Oman, killing three Indian sailors. Yesterday, Trump said, quote, I love inflation. Well, I've got good news for him.

inflation has jumped to a three-year high. Another report shows that a year's worth of wage gains have been wiped out in four months due to the energy crisis driven by Trump's criminal war on Iran. Speaking of that war, House Republicans are planning to use further cuts into Medicaid and Medicare to pay for it

as a part of their new budget negotiations. You know, finger on the pulse of what the American public wants. A new report says the U.S. is investigating friend of the show, Treat a Parsi for criticizing the Iran war. And the administration is planning to deport two Iranian women who sought refuge in the U.S. To the Central African Republic. Because, like, what a funny troll that would be, right?

Trump says he doesn't want to renew his own trade deal that he negotiated in his first term with Mexico and Canada. Israel kills over a dozen people in Lebanon as of yesterday and the UN announces it will send investigators to look at Israel's war crimes there. The FBI has arrested eight pro-Palestinian protesters in Michigan. And lastly,

Go New York, New Yorko. New Yorko. The Knicks complete the largest comeback in NBA finals history in game four. Even as the billionaire Nepo baby owner runs cover for Trump and publicly feuds with Zoran Mamdani, all this and more on today's Majority Report. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's an M. Majority Report Thursday. everyone give their flowers to Brian who is doing two jobs today because Matt is on vacation. He'll be out for a week.

And the power went out. All kinds of fun stuff. Because in 90 degree weather, we decided maybe we should run the air conditioning too much for this incredibly high-tech operation that we've going on here. You know, I feel sometimes like a diva for complaining, but like then I talk to normal people about what like the office has to deal with, with the water, with the AC, and they're like, are you kidding me? Right. How big is this show?

It's not like you're like, don't look at me in the eyes. Yes. I don't want to be pouring sweat while I'm broadcasting. El Canypcion says, Emma, that's not news. Come on. In my world, it is. And I run this show on El Canipsion. If you're talking about the Knicks game, yes, it's news.

And we're going to be talking about it later. because Zora Mamdani and James Dolan are publicly feuding because Dolan keeps lying. And Trump's involved, it is politics and it is news and it is sports and the Knicks are up 3-1 in the series. Okay. I cried like a lot last night. I've immediate tears. I will just say, yeah, I saw the Super Bowl in person, the Giants in 2012 or 2011-2012 season. You know, you're in disbelief, and I cried later.

But as soon as the game ended, immediate bawling, immediate bawling. I don't understand that at all. Like, I only understand rage with losing. Yeah. But with winning, I just feel like I got away with something. Yeah. Like crying, I'm like, oh, thank God. Right, right, right.

It was incredible. Well, I will not continue to talk about it because I know this is a politics show. Oh, don't worry. It's not going to happen again for another. 70 years. So I enjoy this one. Okay. Thank you.

Hey, it wasn't 70 years. It's 1974. 73, 74 season. Anyway, so the U.S. continues to bomb Iran, even though they are supposed to be ceasing fire under the extension of the ceasefire agreement. But just like our beautiful ally in the Middle East is real. The U.S. treats ceasefires like mere suggestions.

And oftentimes they're trying to use negotiations, basically, to trick the people we're negotiating with into submission or to lull them into a false sense of security before we bomb them. I mean, we are immensely unreliable negotiating partners, to put it mildly. also like Israel, the U.S. is continuing to strike civilian infrastructure in Iran. Reportedly, the U.S. attacked two different water reservoirs in southern Iran, and that means that 20,000 people will not have access to drinking water in the middle of an absolutely scorching summer. I saw that in the financial time, so I believe it. Yeah, I think it's sometimes I just add reportedly, but no, it's what happens, yes. And so, I mean, if that's a war crime, one of the many war crimes that we've committed,

including, of course, infamously, the double tap of that girl school. But it's just the, it's barbarism and it's might makes right. And it's the way, and the way that this administration speaks about it with such glee, Pete Hegzeth was asked about attacks on civilian infrastructure and those being war crimes. And of course, he just like fingerwags at the media and says how, of course, you would besmirch the name of our war fighters and chumes. How dare you? How dare you ask me about slaughtering children? Have some compunction. But anyway, it's been three months of this war. Trump had repeatedly said it would be over within weeks.

There's reporting showing that an agreement is close, but the thing is that Trump keeps derailing these negotiations with this public chest thumping because he has this desire to humiliate and threaten Iran because he knows that Iran is humiliating him. Trump continues to get more impatient, the more Iran digs in, and he wants to look like he won because he's so demented, probably ahead of this stupid 250th anniversary long party, where what were bare knuckle fighting on the White House lawn. It's a birthday party. It has nothing to do with you. Exactly. Exactly.

It's what I want to see. So here's Trump this morning, calling into Fox and France, to talk about his latest plans for the war in Iran. We have a minute left, but will it be more bombing tonight? Yeah, there will be more bombing tonight. It'll be a bigger, bigger, more powerful. Don't forget, we've knocked out all of their anti-aircraft. They don't have any anti-they have nothing. I mean, they may get lucky with a shoulder weapon or something,

but for the most part, you know, they have no defense. What did the representative say in your phone call with them? They're finished. But the papers, the media refuses to write it. They're finished. We can walk in there tomorrow. We could take soldiers. I don't want to have boots on the ground.

But if I wanted to, we could put a small group. group of soldiers and take over the whole place. They're finished. And the media is crooked. They're just like our elections. The media is crooked. Mr. President, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks, so.

Excuse me. Excuse me. Thank you, Mr. President. That's my favorite part is Brian Kilmead could not be more sycophantic. And Trump's like, excuse me, excuse me. Shut up. Hey, hey, hey, you're not a piggy because you're a man. I respect you a little bit more.

But like, I mean, what he's revealing there a little bit is it backs up Ken Clippenstein's reporting from a day or two ago that there are U.S. paratroopers who are secretly stationed in Israel right now. And those could be the soldiers that he's referring to, this small group of soldiers that in his wildest dreams are going to take Karg Island, which is a fantasy. It's an island that processes around like 90% of Iran's oil exports and it's putting U.S. troops there or getting them to invade a country of 90 million people and put them on an island that is heavily surveilled by the Iranian government would be truly sending them to die. Like putting troops in such incredible harm's way that the fact

that he's even talking about it is astounding to me. We've never been at war with a country with this many people. No, no, let alone the fact that like geographically, even if there were fewer people. What Iraq is three to four times less in terms of population size, but on geography, Iraq was a lot easier to map out. And then that went. And then that one really badly, Iran is a lot larger and it's much more mountainous. And I've been preparing for this for a long, long time. Right. So if, I mean, God, if the U.S. can't win in Korea, in Vietnam, in Iraq, and you think they're going to win in Iran? Good luck. Good luck, buddy. But what's really just scary to me here is that you have people like this guy, Keith Kellogg. He was a part of the first Trump administration. He was

chief of staff. I think of the something national security, but at one point he then became acting national security advisor because of all the turnover in the first Trump term. He went on Fox News last night. And when I see him say something like this on Hannity's show where Hannity is like as close to Trump as it gets in terms of media

pundits, I don't think if there's anybody Trump trusts more than Sean Hannity to get his message out there. Hearing this from a former Trump official on Hannity, it felt feels like a direct appeal to Trump and that should be

horrifying. We're going to go win, we're going to finish the job. Having a protracted war is not the American way of war. It's a war we've been conditioned to in the last few decades where we've done things in Afghanistan or Iraq. We ought to go back to the way we did it in like World War II or World War I, and we just finished the job, total war, obliterate them, and say, when you need to come to the table and you want to talk to us, you've got our phone number, but until that we're done. Because right now we're playing their game, not our game. Let's play our game. Let's play our game. and force him to come to us.

When I hear something like that, when I hear something like that, first of all, when he talks about World War II and World War I, you made this point, Brian, we didn't start those wars. No, and Russia saved both those wars. Yeah, right.

We're going to need Russia's help, please. Who's Russia going to side with in this? Let's turn Russia on Iran. That's probably the best. Instead of just like, we got admitting defeat, that's the road that they're, They're, you know, they should go down. It's absurd.

But what's scary is what he seems to be implying when he says World War II at the very least is nukem or at the very least bomb the hell out of them. Like, how many more times are we going to bomb Iran because Trump wants to save face for this idiotic war that he started? Even as we're at the lowest levels ever for our strategic petroleum reserve and we're just weeks away from this energy crisis spiraling complete. out of control. How many more times is Trump going to insist that a bombing campaign is going to make Iran negotiate on more favorable terms? In fact, as we've continued to say, the leverage is on Iran's side. They would almost rather have this drag out to a degree to inflict maximum political damage domestically on Trump to punish him in that way ahead of the midterms. That's a part of their strategy. But also they still have cards to play, and we do not have any more cards to play.

Because all we have is bombing, hammer nail situation. But you have the Red Sea and the Houthis and their alliance with Iran. And they could start a choke point there as well. And Iran hasn't even played that card yet. It's just amazing how outclass these imbecils are in this administration, despite all of the advantage from a firepower perspective being on their side. it's a death cult they're all 85 years old they don't care

they don't care they're trying to cash out on the way out right right let's build the world that we always wanted that these Zionists always wanted that these neocons always wanted before we die and everybody else can deal with it in a moment Hassan piker will be with us but first a word from

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We will put a link to that. Yes, down below. Quick break, and when we come back, we'll be joined by Hassan Piker. We are back. Sorry about the delay, folks. We're undermanned today. We just have Brian, who had to run and get this esteemed guest, Hassan Piker.

I'm not sure if anybody's heard of you before. What's going on? Are you enjoying our studio? That's a ripe 95 degrees range. Yeah, no, it's awesome. No AC. No AC. When I first came in, Sam's butt pillow wasn't on the seat. I took it off as a courtesy. No, I put it back on.

I understand. Yeah. So now you get to feel Sam's ass imprint beneath yours. Yeah, it feels great to have my ass touch the ass of greatness. But to butt. Yeah. I mean, that's how you can kind of feel his energy when he's not here. I know that some people in our audience may not be happy that I'm going to ask this question.

but given my Nick shirt and what I'm wearing today, I have to ask. Yeah. Can you summarize what it was like to be at the greatest NBA finals comeback in the history of the NBA, rooting for your and my favorite team, the New York Knicks? Okay, I'll just say it. First of all, I am an unapologetic Wemby fan for the record. I love him. I think he's great.

And I like the Spurs as a team, right? However, however, what I watched unfold last night was insane. I mean, first of all, it was many failures on the spurs front. Okay? So dominant, first three quarters. A 30-point lead coming into the halftime, historic, has never happened with the exception of the bubble, right? And I like that they put an asterisk on the bubble, too. Or like an away team has never led by, you.

you know, this amount, this many points. And I was there with my best friend Will Neff, my podcast co-host, and also my Camop and producer, March. March's never been to a basketball game. But Will is a lifelong New York sports fan, which means he's never actually experienced joy or victory. He's a Jets fan and he's a Knicks fan. So for him, this is a truly unique moment.

And we flew in specifically for this, right? And we were supposed to go to game three, which would have been devastating. And then we decided, let's go to game four instead. And I'm glad we did. So throughout this whole process, Will sitting there, like, I'm going to go purchase a gun and shoot myself in the mouth. Like, it's over. My life is over. He was, like, genuinely sad.

He was so sad. His head was, like, in between his knees the whole time. And I kept telling him over and over again, the Knicks are a very streaky team. When they get, when they start overpowering the spurs, the spurs are two years. young in many respects and they don't have the clutch. They haven't like developed a clutchness yet. Yes, it gets in their head. Yeah.

And by the way, Mike Brown is completely outclassing in terms of coaching and situational awareness. For sure. And and I kept telling him over and over again. I was like, nope, they're going to bring it back. They've brought it back every single game. Yeah. Like they've brought it back every single game. It doesn't matter.

It's going to happen. And he couldn't believe it until it was happening. I have many thoughts. but we don't have you for that much longer. Well, I have a gift for you. Half the audience is turned. You have a gift for me?

I have a piece of that greatness that I brought for you. Are you for real? From the actual finals, is it upside down? I like legit might cry. Oh my God, you're crazy. Yeah,

I'm sorry. You're crazy. It's so funny to say might cry as you're crying. It hasn't come out yet, but, you know, like I burst into tears last night. Like, I just couldn't believe

And what it means to the city And my husband is like Was calling into WFAN As a 12 and 13 year old boy Like debating about the Knicks I mean it's in his heart And so like what this means to me I have this T-shirt

Maybe I'll pull it out I don't want to be superstitious But it says honorary ball kid on it Because when I was 11 or so I got pulled on to the floor For like a game out of the audience And so like I mean I've been You know a Knicks fan my whole life

So it's amazing. And people don't know this, but you are from New Jersey. So we're from the same neck of the wood. Similar. Similar. All right. Back to actually real things. So tonight, you and I are going to be at this DSA rally, introducing the New York slate of candidates for DSA.

Just a phenomenal slate. And we're about to be talking after our conversation with Dario Lisa Avila Chavallier. Chevalier. I struggle with it, but I think I got that out. Who's running in New York's 13th district. She's a part of that slate. I just reflecting, I think, could you reflect on the rise of DSA here in New York specifically and what that means for creating progress across the country nationally? Yeah. I mean, New York is leading the way, but there is a lot of appetite for necessary change in this country. And the DSA system has been so successful in this city in organizing that they got some really solid and very popular politicians with national prominence from both,

you know, Alexandria Ocasu Cortez all the way to, you know, Zoramam Dani. And they're banking off of those victories to put more numbers on the board. I've already interviewed the DSA slate last time I was here. I mean, or not even the last time I was here. I've been here a lot. Right. But I'm, I'm, you know, very familiar with them. I've, I've done some work with all of them, you know, from Claire to Dari Liza to lower, like the local races as well. And I wanted to, I wanted to highlight every single person and make sure that they get a little bit more shine right before early elections start.

because I think it's very important to show this success and the continue building on this momentum, especially at a time when people are looking for alternatives. Yeah. And I also, even just to quickly talk about the Knicks, it's almost like there's a little bit of class consciousness even in that conversation too. Seriously. Because people, look at what Zoron contrasts Zoran up in the nosebleeds with Trump shutting down the whole goddamn thing for himself. I don't know. I think that's like instructive for the jocks that care about.

the NBA, for example. Sure. Let's radicalize them. No, I think so, too. I mean, you got Dolan. Yeah. Trying to actively wage war with the mayor and also with the working class fans that made the New York Knicks what it is. Yeah.

And, you know, in spite of his bad vibes, in spite of his best efforts to ruin his own team, the Knicks have somehow been able to pull through. Yes. We have overcome billionaire interference in more ways than one. There's players on the NIGS team that are from Nysha, right? Like, they're, you know, public housing. Yeah, Alvarado. Yeah.

New York native. We're back here. But like, I guess this moment right now, you know, I'm thinking about it. I'm sure you watch Graham Platner's like victory speech after the primary. And the way that he talks about what he had this great line, I'll be a senator for those who can't afford to buy. senator. Now, you know, DSA isn't supporting Platner specifically, but I would argue he's a part of the populist left uprising that is adjacent to. And working, you know, the energy of DSA is informing

the energy of campaigns like that. We also, of course, have Dan Osborne in Nebraska, who's running in a way that is explicitly about class and populism and the billionaire class. Just your overall thoughts about this momentum and how it feels different. At least it feels a lot different to me than the resistance from the first half of the Trump administration from 2017 to 2018. 2016 liberal, 2016 resistance was defined by liberalism. And I think this time around in the aftermath of the last loss, because at that point, the understanding was Trump was an aberration. right? He didn't have permanence in American politics. He,

uh, many people were shocked. They were horrified. But they thought Trump is a unique candidate. We just have to fight back against this. And then we can get back to business as usual liberalism and get back to brunch. And then we did get back to brunch, except brunch was dog shit. Yeah. And, and brunch was old.

Brunch was a 87 year old man with his brain leaking out of his year. And, and, uh, no investment whatsoever in in trying to combat the economic struggles that the everyday American was experiencing. Yeah, Zionists can't brunch. I mean, it's just can't happen. And then, and then, you know, post-October 7 as well. But in general, this time around, and I'm almost grateful for James Carvel and the centrist, institutionalist, Democrats, they decided to just show their belly. they decided not to fight back against the Trump administration.

It was very frustrating at first that they chose not to fight back. But I think in the absence of some kind of alternative 2016 style resistance liberalism, people were still looking for alternatives. And we presented that alternative, this insurgency, the Bernie crats, the left populace. And I think Bernie's oligarchy, stop oligarchy tour was phenomenal in this aspect. of just organizing people and showing them that there is an alternative, that there are people that are like-minded that do see right from wrong and do want to present a different way of doing politics in this country, one that was not being presented by establishment Democrats or the

National Democratic Party. Yeah. And I think just back to Zoron for a second, part of the goalposts keep shifting about what he represents. First, during the primary, it was like, oh, this avowed anti-Zionist, Muslim man can't win in one of the most Jewish cities in the world. Of course he can't with his stance on Israel. Okay. He ended up winning the primary. And then it was, well, and then he ended up winning the mayoral election overall. And then it was, oh, well, this is New York City. It's a bunch of commies. It's way too far left.

You know, that's not replicable everywhere. Look at Spanberger here. She also won on the same primary day. She's just as equally exciting, the centrist. Well, her approval rating is in the tubes. Zoron's approval rating is skyrocketing. And then we move to Platner. And I think why there is such a freak out about him in particular is they can't, if he

ends up defeating Susan Collins, they can't make that argument anymore that it's just calming New York City. So these kind of politics can't. and translate anywhere in the country. And the Democratic consultant class that makes all of their money on commission with big television and digital ad buys are ex-isentially threatened by the idea of people-powered campaigns in addition to the fact that I'm not sure how much you've covered this, like, you know, New York Times story about Plattner. It's basically backfired. But it's a coordinated Zionist smear campaign from both the right and the center of and right of the Democratic Party to take down the. this guy for what he represents.

Yeah. No, these guys would protect their sinecure to the death. They would allow, and when I say these guys, I mean like the near attendants of the world, the consultancy class, the people that have made a great deal of money connecting corporations with Democratic politicians by consistently telling them that you need to moderate, you need to pivot to the center, and you need to keep. keep getting money from corporations and you need to keep defending their interests, the interests of profits, and you need to place that over the interests of the people. And they've been able to

successfully, I guess, present that as the best possible way to win elections. I mean, we've tried this in Maine. And they still tried to do it in Maine with Janet Mills, Pills Mafia, the Pills Mills. Oh, yeah. I'm a Janet Sari, by the way, to the bitter end. So it was devastating. Tuesday was devastating for me. supporting women. Yeah. But I mean, Janet Mills was a representation of this attitude. The idea that

in Maine, the only way to win, the electability argument favors the moderate. I mean, she's a popular governor of the state. And all of a sudden, this outsider comes in, he's a oyster guy out of nowhere. And it's a blowout. Right? So

what centrists have to now do is undermine this candidate. and undermine this campaign, even if the alternative means a Republican majority in the Senate, because if Grand Planner wins, that shows that the electability argument actually favored left populism all along, to say that you're against Israel, to say that you were for Medicare for all, what was presented as a radical sect of Democratic Party's politics that was often cast aside. Turns out the majority wants it, the majority, the overwhelming majority of the Democrats,

want it as demonstrated by the primaries. And I'm willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of the masses across the board, regardless of party loyalty, want that too. Yeah. And I just keep thinking about also what Platner would represent as a senator. Like imagine him if he's on, you know, say, armed services committee, questioning our Pentagon leaders about the endless wars that were involved in. And he's running very much on that as a buzzword being against the endless wars.

I saw what it meant. And my friends died for nothing. I killed people for nothing. And the power of him kind of reckoning with that, the mental health episodes that he had experienced because he had to reckon with that. And then being able to confront the very decision makers that send so many Americans to die for wars of imperialism and choice, that is going to be, if he's able to topple Susan Collins, who's defied the odds before, that is going to be a really poignant, I think, visual and a threatening one to the military industrial complex if he's able to kind of use what he's

run on and operate that way as a senator. There are still, not that they're relevant, relevant in the main conversation, but there are still skeptics out there. Yeah. My argument has always been, look, I have my fair share of scrutiny and skepticism here as well. Having said that, you might not take what he's saying seriously. You might not take his anti-Zionism to be sincere. But it's very clear that very powerful people do see it as a real threat. And that's precisely the reason why they are opening up.

the faucet, the barrage of manufactured outrage to try to thwart his campaign success so far. Yeah, I mean, we're always going to question the sincerity of politicians, but I also think that you can look at evidence to make a case for yourself. And when people compare him to Federman, Federman was taking A-PAC money. Grand Platner is taking only small dollar contributions. That's how it's working. And that matters to me, because when we're talking about political corruption, that's how the sausage gets made there. Yeah. Lastly, I know you've got to run.

What, can you talk a little bit about what you've seen out of Michigan since you arrived there? Because it seems like we can talk about the Hassan Piker effect in that way. Abdul al-Said has surged after a bunch of, after Mallory McMorro and other kind of, of centrist democratic groups and Zionists. Yeah, I know. I've heard about her before. We shouldn't get too cocky. But she, well, we'll see primaries in August.

I mean, I'm knocking on wood. You know, I'm superstitious about this stuff. But like, it had the opposite effect. It, stric sand affected. Abdul al-Sayyad. And now he is leading in every poll that comes out. Yeah. Some of those polls have actually directly pointed to the bump, the Hassanabe bump.

There was a Republican poster that said, like, there was a noticeable increase. in Abdul al-Salad's favorabilities after the attacks started and is a direct consequence of said attacks. But here's the thing. I'm not this profoundly popular person. I'm only one guy. I'm not some kingmaker in the way that my haters, my enemies in mainstream media perceive

me to be. I can connect ideological allies with. with an audience and also maybe even offer some positive media coverage or negative media coverage from contentious hostile legacy publishers that have already created a legion of enemies amongst the masses. People that get very frustrated about the Israel coverage in the New York Times when they see or any number of different like mainstream publishers like CNN. Right. When they see CNN criticize Abdul al-Sahad and say he's hanging out with this like radical, this is San Piker guy. He's a scary terrorist. He's Muslim.

And Abdul's Muslim too. Think about how Muslim he is. I think most people look at that and go, oh, you're just saying that because he's actually legit. Yes. It's a point of legitimacy. Yeah. So it's not. That's the reason why it backfired.

And if you recall when, you know, people were asking me in the beginning, I was like, they kept saying, how do you feel? Like it must not feel so great to be attacked all day. day to be called an anti-Semite, to be called a terrorist. And I, what did I say? I was like, no, it's actually great because I've been getting called that my whole life, right, for my positions.

And it was certainly much worse after October 7 because the public consciousness had not shifted so hard on this issue. So now when people say that, it's

it raises the salience of the issue and it raises the legitimacy of the candidates that I'm aligning with like Abdul. Yeah. And it really is amazing how the public has not is there. You look at polling and yet it's like the media exists in a parallel universe where they're still treating Israel as something or at the very least being anti-Israel or criticizing the genocide as something. that's going to harm you politically? I mean, are you joking? It's like they live in the upside down world.

Yeah. I mean, look at what happened with the UK. Exactly. If the UK just allowed me to go in and deliver the speeches that I was slated to deliver, it would have been no issue whatsoever. I mean, there'd be some positive media coverage, sure. But the very fact that they stopped me from entering the country became a new story in and of itself.

And it became a major point of controversy, both in the country and, I mean, globally, really, because it spelled a significant shift in defending freedom of expression in this country. A lot of people were frustrated, even unlikely people. I mean, the free press wrote an article about how the UK should have never stopped me from entering the country. So yeah, I think that these guys kind of recognize how much the masses have shifted on this. But instead of leaning into the wishes of the overwhelming majorities, they've decided to engage in repression. Yep, but they're fortifying.

And they'd rather win their way. Yeah. They'd rather lose than not win their way, basically. Yeah. And that's been crazy, you know, hard to reckon with, I think, but also instructive. Hassan Piker, where can people find you? I'm live all the time. Yeah.

At twitch.tv slash hasanavi. And I will be seeing you tonight, will I not? So if you're in New York, check out the DSA slate rally in Bushwick, where Hassan and I will both be. I don't mean to give out our assassination coordinates, but unfortunately we have to advertise some things. Yep, we're out there. All right, folks, quick break. And when we come back, we are going to be speaking to one of the candidates on that DSA slate, Darius Avelia Chavallier. We are back, and we are joined now by Dari Elisa.

Vila Chavalier. I'm sorry if I butchered that a little bit. You can help correct me in just a second candidate for Congress in New York's 13th Congressional District. Dario Lisa, thanks so much for coming on the show today. Thanks so much for having me. And yeah, you said it very well. Oh, wow. Okay. All right. Anglicize it a little bit for folks.

Well, I'm white as hell, so I'm the right person to anglicize things. So this morning, new poll came out from Data for Progress showing that you are up against your opponent, who is an incumbent, Congressman Adriano Espiat. He's been in Congress for many years. He's taken A-PAC money. This is encouraging to see this kind of poll. But just tell us a little bit about your opponent, your reaction to the poll and why it seems like you're surging. Yeah, I mean, I was so excited to see that. I, you know, we've done so much work on this campaign as organizers and really building out a campaign that is responsive to the community here and answering the questions that the community has had for so long of why is it that when we have someone who has been in office for that long, who has sat on the appropriations committee, who's the chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, why is it that our, situation is not gotten better as a community, that we are actually seeing more and more black and brown people leave this district and seeing the conditions just get harder every single day. And the answer there, right, is because we have had someone who has not shown up for us,

who has not been in our communities and living through the things that we have lived through. I am somebody who has had to ask myself whether I can afford to stay in the city that I love, despite doing everything I was told to do to have a stable life, right? I went to college. I went to grad school. I was working on my PhD, was working towards a career as a professor, a college professor, and got priced out of that. And that's how, you know, I ended up in a job that I really love, right,

as an investigator at a public defender's office. But even so, doing all the things that I was told was the path to having a dignified middle-class life was still not seen. And so many people around me, you know, more and more are lining up at food pantry lines, more and more are leaving the city altogether because they can't afford to stay, more and more on sleeping on the street. And every morning, when we're told that there are no resources to support our communities, we're watching those same resources be wasted on atrocity after atrocity in the form of sending arms to a country that's enacting a genocide, in the form of a war

with Iran, a war that nobody wants. And so our lives here. get harder and harder, but our representatives continue to vote in the interests of their donors, of special interests, and Republican and right-wing interests, right, and corporate interests. And it's time that we actually have representation that's going to fight for our people. And the fact that we have taken that message and that vision to so many in this district and that has resonated with them, the fact that we have told them, hey, you deserve somebody who's going to fight for housing for all, somebody who's going to fight to abolish ice so that our community can actually breathe. You deserve someone who's going to make sure that our

tax dollars no longer go towards an endless war machine, but actually come back to our communities so that we can invest in our babies and not bombs. And that message has resonated with so many because we're tired of a politics that is jaded, a politics, a complicity, of politics of death. We deserve a politics that actually presents a vision for what our communities deserve and presents a vision of a politics of life. And I believe I know your answer to this, but just would love to ask to get you on the record, you support blocking arms sales to Israel,

both defensive and offensive weapons? I do. I fully support blocking arms sales of all sorts. And I would imagine you would support an embargo as well. Yes. Yes. And your opponent, What's his record on this issue?

He has consistently voted to send more arms and money and weapons to Israel. He has to this day refused to call it a genocide. He continues to take money from APAC, the same right-wing institution that funds Republicans, that funds President Trump, that has been pushing us towards this deeply unpopular war and that has cost us over a billion dollars a day. In the first six days of this war with Iran, we could have gotten the universal child care program that Mayor Zaraamamani ran on. And that is my opponent's record. That is what he's voted towards.

And I think it's a reflection of how, you know, these interests reflect in the policies that our politicians are engaging in. And it's not just APEC. It's also corporate real estate interests. It's, you know, the fact that he takes money from interests like crypto and AI and then votes for things like the Genius Act, which is like only got Trump's friends, Richard, right? And it matters that we have representation that is actually accountable to the working people who would never have $670,000 to donate to a campaign

the way that APAC has. We'll never have the $15,000 that ICE contractors have donated to my opponent, right? It matters that if we are serious about having a functioning democracy, that that democracy empower working people instead of corporate interests. Well said. And I just want to turn now to you support abolishing ice. We're seeing an escalation of threats from the federal government right now about ice activity in New York City. What would you do to help your potential constituents as a member of Congress to protect them from ice rates?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we have to abolish ICE. That's the only way we get them out of New York City for good, right? And I've lived in a world where ICE didn't exist. I'm older than ICE is. And we need to go back to a world where it doesn't exist. Reinvest those resources into pathways to citizenship and to programs that actually allow our immigrant communities to feel integrated and safe in our communities, right? Because we know that benefits every single person in our community. And, you know, we also need to make sure that we're working with every level of government to protect. our sanctuary policy to make sure that we are advocating for our constituents and not staying silent when, you know, ICE comes to our community and kid naps them. We have to actually be fighting tooth and nail for them. You know, when my friend Mahmuh Khalil was taken by ICE here in this district, my opponent refused to meet with his family. He refused to meet with our friends. And the only thing you could do was issue a two-sentence statement about trusting the Department of Justice, which was all. violating his rights on the basis of having taken him to begin with.

And so we just, yeah, and we deserve representation that understands what that means for the millions of people across the country who are living under the terror of ICE when our representative was the chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, doesn't stand up for the immigrant in his district whom Trump is now calling the blueprint for how immigration enforcement would be conducted throughout the country. that matters. Yeah. It is so important to highlight the Mahmoud Khalil example, because if that's any indication, how he left him out to dry, somebody who was criminalized for his speech and missed the birth of his child because this fascist administration locked him up for his speech, that you can't have a Democrat in one of the bluest districts in the country stand up for him. How would he? stand up for you then? That's the question here. On any issue. It's just astonishing. And I know that you were an organizer of the anti-genocide protests at Columbia University as a grad student. So you're quite aware of what free speech suppression looks like as well. Can you talk about that as a concept and what you would do as a member of Congress to protect people's rights to protest and have their voices heard because, you know, the right has almost perverted and taken over the free speech conversation because they make it about like, oh, I get to say this slur again or

something or Twitter took down my tweets or something. No, this is what real free speech suppression looks like and you experienced it firsthand. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I think we have often, And, you know, we're seeing both Democrats and Republicans alike pass policies that suppress that kind of speech. And it is so deeply dangerous. We talk about how Republicans are passing book bans, how they are, you know, really taking away our own history from us by banning certain topics in schools, by limiting funding to our education on the basis of whether or not professors or teachers are teaching certain topics.

and then happen to be shocked that these corporate interests when they present themselves in the form of a university, right, are acting in lockstep, right? Where they are suppressing the speech and the protests of their own students, inviting police onto their campuses to arrest their students for engaging in First Amendment speech, right? There is nothing more sacred in this country than the right to protest and the right to speech and the fact that it is happening in institutions like a university where the very point is to teach us how to think and express our ideas should really shock us all and should tell us about where we're at in this country. And the fact that we had a representative who not only ignored calls from students, ignored calls from protesters, from his constituents to help them address this issue,

to help them address the fact that their rights were being suppressed by their own university. And then that had a hand in the way that the federal government responded to these students, you know, I think speaks volumes to the lack of leadership we've had into a failure to stand up to these attacks on free speech, these attacks on education, so these attacks on our democracy. The attacks on education, can you speak a little bit more about that? What would you prioritize in terms of improving education in your district as a member of Congress? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think we really need to be funding our schools, not just K through 12, but we need free, public, dignified education,

we're cradle to college. And I think what we're seeing more and more with institutions like Columbia, which is my alma mater, front of at. I went to CUNY for grad school, which I'm very proud of, is that we, you know, went from a system in CUNY, for example, where we did have a free higher education. And now, many people are priced out of something that is really a pathway to class mobility, to the middle class. And we need to be funding that education, not only because it is that pathway and it's economic justice, it's also a matter of dignity. Education is a matter of change. And human dignity. And we should be funding that for our students, for our children, for our communities.

And, you know, this ability or this ability to be able to have an education to know how to think critically, to engage with our democracy is so critical to be able to actually fight back on fascism. Because without that, we are going to see more and more attacks on our community at large. And the fact that we have so deeply disinvested from our education, we have so deeply system is what's gotten us to this moment, right? The fact that we have continued to allow our tax dollars to be diverted away from public schools into private charter schools or private institutions, right, and pricing people out of the education that they are owed through a public system is what's gotten us to this moment where we have devalued critical

thought, where we have devalued engagement with our politics. And it's time that we take that back. It's time that we take our education back and take our democracy back. Lastly, you say it's time we take our democracy back. I've had some frustrating conversations with liberals that don't seem to connect wealth concentration and the lack of democracy that we're seeing. I mean, this moment of fascism, how actually billionaires and this amount the wealth concentration, it isn't just wrong morally and depriving people of material gains and resources that could be going to education, health care, housing, and more. It's a threat to democracy because they can buy elections and because they can wield their economic power in ways

that is often, you know, more powerful than most governments. So what's your belief in taxation and in breaking billionaires' backs metaphorically as a way to protect democracy, not just the material gains that are, I think, you know, we both agree with and are obvious. I mean, I think it's twofold, right? It's we need to tax them. They need to pay their fair share to actually contribute to investing in the resources that will allow us to have a functional democracy. But also, we have a serious problem with Citizens United.

And the idea that corporations are somehow people who can participate in elections through donations, right? Where what you see is that in the last few weeks of so many of these elections, corporate interests, special interests, right? They will dump millions and millions of dollars into an election and have an outsized impact on these elections. And that kind of money in politics is what has deeply corrupted our democracy, has made it so that people feel so disempowered. around elections, around participating in politics at all. And what we need to do is we need serious campaign finance reform. We need to push back on Citizens United and end it. We need to, you know, make sure that we are actually empowering the average voter who doesn't

have, you know, the $670,000 that APEC has given to my opponent, doesn't have the $115,000, $150,000 that he's taken from ICE contractors, or the $250,000 he's taken from corporate real estate lobbies, right? We're working people. I don't got that kind of money. I'm sure you don't have that kind of money. No. People who are creating the wealth in our society as workers,

because that's what we're doing when we go to work, we should be owed the dignity of having a say in how those resources are used, right? And that's what happens at elections. We get to decide what our values are, where we want our budgets to have an impact on our communities, and it's time, right, that we have representation that's actually fighting for that. Because I think it matters, you know, that we win in November, yes, and then we send Democrats to office and win the majority.

But we're not going to win that majority if the Democratic base can't see itself in the people who are running, right, in the people who won the primaries. And so it matters not only that we send Democrats to office, it matters what kind of Democrats we're sending. Absolutely. Well, where can people support your campaign, Daryalisa? So if you want to come knock on doors or phone bank, you can come to our website at Daryalisa for Congress.com. You can also donate to help us because we are building an entirely grassroots operation,

only take money from individual people and all corporations. So please support. And you can also find us on socials at Darylisa for NY. And please, please, please come out to vote. Early voting starts June 13th and election day is June 23rd. absolutely well we will put a link to that wherever people are listening to or watching this Daria Lisa Avila Chavalier candidate for Congress I'm trying then I overthink it candidate in New York 13th congressional district incredible candidate rooting for you

and appreciate your time today thanks so much thanks for having me of course all right guys With that, we're going to wrap up the free part of this program and head into the fun half where we will read your IMs. We'll maybe take some calls. We shall see. All that good stuff. We're not sure what's happening with Matt on Left Reckoning, but you can check that out. I haven't had a second to get that. Sorry.

No, it's really fine. We were dealing with a lot. And apologies, if you guys were listening live and we had such a long break. it was difficult to get Hassan up here and Brian had to run down and we couldn't do you know so it's just the two of us today I appreciate everybody's patience if you'd like to

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