The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3673 - DSA and Zohran Shock Dem Party Machine w/ Morris Katz

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

Welcome back to The Majority Report On today's program: The DSA slate wins the New York Democratic primaries in a sweep. Zohran Mamdani delivers a powerful speech at Claire Valdez's election party. A ...DSA chair tells Hasan Piker on his stream that his phone banking drive on behalf of Darializa Avila Chevalier yesterday identified 2,000 voters which is essentially the margin of victory. Centrist Dem consultant Neera Tanden tries to pump the brakes on the DSA's victory by saying it won't work in rural states. I guess she hasn't heard of Graham Platner. Political strategist Morris Katz, who served as Zohran Mamdani's lead media strategist for his mayoral campaign, joins us to take a victory lap after the huge DSA win last night. We end the free half by taking a look at some of the best centrist Dem meltdowns over the primaries. In the Fun Half: We take a look at a few GOP meltdowns over the NY primaries. The featured ghouls include Stephen Miller, Sean Hannity, David Frum and more. Ta-Nehisi Coates on The Bulwark podcast with Tim Miller reflects on his decision to advocate for Kamala Harris in the 2024 election. Dan Goldman is asked why he thinks he lost to Brad Lander and he responds with "Trump is bad" nonsense. Dave Rubin is offended that his favorite actor John C. Reilly believes that empathy is a superpower. All that and more. Legal Defense Fund for MN Anti-ICE Organizers To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AM Quickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors:   SUNSET LAKE CBD:  Use the coupon code FS26 to save 25% on all full-spectrum CBD Gummies at SunsetLakeCBD.com. The sale ends June 27th at midnight Eastern time Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to a free version of the Majority Report. Support this show at join the Majority Report.com and get an extra hour of content daily. Majority Report with Sam Cedar. It is Wednesday, June 24th, 2006. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps. from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America,
Starting point is 00:00:37 downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Morris Katz, political strategist, served as the lead media strategist for Zohra Mamdani's mayoral campaign, also working on Platner campaign. Dan Osborne. Dan Osborne. Others to talk about The big story of the day,
Starting point is 00:01:06 Mamdani, DSA shock the Democratic establishment across New York City. Valdez, Lander, Chevalier, all but become congresspeople, knocking out two incumbents on the way. Meanwhile, Chuck Schumer puts himself on a, wait list at a retirement community near you. Senate passes the War Powers Act Resolution. Texas anti-ice protesters convicted of terrorism charges. They get over 50 years in prison. House and Senate now have passed bipartisan housing bill.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And despite Pete Heggseth proclamation, the military begins re-requiring flu shots once more. New York Times finds documents which show that Trump is lying about his reflecting cesspool vandalism. COVID vaccine study that was suppressed by the CDC published in an outside journal, all this and more on today's majority report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Emma Viglin out today. You can simply check her Instagram feed to find out why.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah. Probably a Tylenol shortage on her block. Things have markedly changed since the supply of zbiotics in the office has dwindled. Reopen a straight of her moves. We need some more of that stuff. Exactly. Folks, big win last night. And by wins, I mean, by win, I mean wins.
Starting point is 00:03:20 next year, New York will have three federal Democratic socialists in office. AOC, Claire Valdez, and Darliza Chevalier. There will be New York, there will be four DSA members in New York City elected to office. there will be 15 state socialist in office in this state rivaling
Starting point is 00:04:04 rivaling rivaling rivaling the number of socialists since like literally 1915 I think it was oh wow yep
Starting point is 00:04:16 just huge wins Claire Valdez this is the New York 7th district Claire Valdez beat Antonio Reynoso
Starting point is 00:04:34 and Raynoso was a sort of a I would say mainstream progressive he was um
Starting point is 00:04:44 Velasquez Nydia Velasquez the retiring congresswoman's pick she endorsed Reynoso Reynoso
Starting point is 00:04:54 got endorsements from a lot of unions, not all the unions. Claire Valdez won by 21 points. 20 points. A huge win. Brad Lander beat a sitting congressperson.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Now, I think a lot of people anticipated this. Certainly everyone did. You know, everyone around here did. Goldman won last only because the vote was split amongst the progressives. But this race came down to, in many respects, the question of Israel and APEC. This is the most Jewish district in the country.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Both Goldman and Brad Lander are Jewish. Goldman won, excuse me, Lander won by 30 points. You won by 30 points. you will hear a lot of mainstream commentators, Republican commentators, Zionists say that this is a very scary time for Jews in New York. I cannot tell you how absurdly laughable that is. Just absurdly laughable. This is Michael Cohen. Let's put this up here.
Starting point is 00:06:35 He is a writer. I don't know if he writes for the globe now. A liberal writer. He writes, this is genuinely a scary night for New York City Jews. I honestly like, I cannot tell you how, because I think he's sincere. I cannot tell you. And I'm not, obviously, I don't believe that, you. even psychiatrists from afar can diagnose someone.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And I am not a psychiatrist. There was a sitcom pilot where I performed a laparoscopic coliseisectomy as a doctor, but I am also not a doctor. But I will say, in my layperson's opinion, he is demented. Like there is a psychological problem associated. with that. You're acting like you didn't ask me to go get groceries for you last night because you were too scared to leave the house. I did ask Brian that, but that was because I was too lazy to do it. And I thought he would buy into that. The idea that New York is even
Starting point is 00:07:54 remotely scary or remotely more scary today for Jews is one of the most bat crap crazy things I've ever hurt. I just, it's, it's inexplicable to me how someone could say that. I don't even know if he lives in New York. Maybe, I can't imagine he does. But, it's just insane. Bradlander's pretty Jewish.
Starting point is 00:08:33 In District 13, this was the one I think that surprised most people. Darylisa Villa Chevalier goes up against Adriano Espionto. Espiat, not just an incumbent, not just a 19-year incumbent, but also the chair of the Hispanic caucus.
Starting point is 00:08:59 She beat them by four points. To beat an incumbent is crazy. With that kind of resume. To beat it. And also understand this. There are times where it's like, oh, you know, Joe Crowley got, surprised by AOC.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But supposedly they've all been on alert since then. And it's not like these two incumbents are so far removed from leadership. You know, we just didn't realize. We didn't have a sense of what was going on the ground. I don't know. You can go from either one of these districts to Hakeem Jeffrey's districts in anywhere ranging from like, I think, 10 minutes on the subway to different parts of it. that might take you 45 minutes or so.
Starting point is 00:09:58 They were completely blindsided by this. You brought this up before the show. Espelat's last three elections, he won 90%, 81%, and 81%. Oh, those were general elections. I don't think he was even challenged. Oh, yeah, those are generals, yes. So these are major wins, and there were big wins in the state senate. There was some upstate.
Starting point is 00:10:24 The only other one that was a real competition. competition was, where I should say, a surprise on some level, was the 12th, where Lashor won and Boris, neither one of them was, the biggest difference was that Boris was willing to regulate AI, and they spent something like $20 million. And he's still only lost by single digits. here is Zoran Mamdani who is now being hailed
Starting point is 00:11:06 I mean look this was this was risky for Mom Donnie to do or at least that was the story he is pissing off the leadership it was less than a year ago when this headline popped this up from the slack
Starting point is 00:11:25 where Jeffrey's people were um were saying if these Democratic socialists are attempting to primary any incumbents, they're going to regret it. I think it was, nope, nope, that was that CNN headline, I think it was. Yeah, here it is. This is from July 9th. Some of them, Donnie's far left ally. one of primary Hakeem Jeffries and other New York City Democrats.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And the byline, or I should say the subtitle was, there was a quote in that tweet that was there. I can't find it now. But it was basically to the effect of good luck. They're going to have a real problem if they do that. Here is Zohraamam Dhani at the Claire Valdez victory. party last night. You have been canvassing for months. Those canvases, at those fundraisers, at those events, when we introduce our candidates,
Starting point is 00:13:26 we use a language of hope. We say the next assembly member, the next state senator, the next congressperson. Tonight we use a language of fact, which is first and foremost, this is your victory. Of a political movement. Michael Lang. into one that working New Yorkers get to for it. I have to say, like, I don't, I certainly not in New York City, but I don't recall anything quite like this, where a mayor who's been mayor only for six months essentially throws all of his political cachet into these races.
Starting point is 00:16:32 we certainly haven't seen a movement like this. It just hasn't existed in our politics for decades. And on some level, that's why a lot of this is just not predictable where this leads. I'm quite sure it does not lead to a place where Jews should be nervous about. But honestly, in terms of political power, it is unclear. Because this is definitely going to influence Democrats across the country, some less, some more. And when we talk to Morris Katz, I think you'll get a sense of that in a bit on how it's going to implicate things. And speaking of something else I haven't seen, I mean, I guess I've seen this on the right.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I think back to like when George Bush in 2005 attempted to maybe it was 2004, maybe 2005 attempted to push immigration reform when the Republican intelligentsia believed that demographically speaking they needed to open their party to Latino and Hispanic voters. And there was a massive pushback by Mark Levin and Ann Coulter and Laura Ingram and a lot of these sort of xenophobes, racists who push back on it and shut the whole thing down. We've never had that on the left, any type of media platforms that can really singularly influence the outcome. of a political fight. I mean, there's been moments. Talking Points Memo did a great job of Social Security in 2005. There are others. But this is pretty amazing. Hassan Piker a couple of days ago, I think it was only a couple of days ago, started encouraging his audience to phone bank.
Starting point is 00:19:01 he's a slightly larger audience than we do. And the last figures that were public were that 90,000 calls were made by his audience. And here he is at, I think it was Claire Valdez's party. And the DSA co-chair, Gustavo, I can't remember his last name. He tells Hassan Piker that it translated into at least
Starting point is 00:19:44 2,000 votes. Check this up. You hear that? Not about, what's about phone calls a law? As of like 10.38 p.m. last night when the race was called. I think this is what the vote tally was. Chevalier had 32,790 votes.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And Esbiot had 30,464 votes. I'm not going to do the very specific math, but it looks like a 2,300 vote lead. That's amazing. Really indicative of how these wins. were brought about by a movement that literally that mobilizes its people, not just mobilizes, but organizes and mobilizes its people. A real fundamental change to see, you know, it's one thing like, okay, AOC knocks off Crowley and she does this through organizing and whatnot in 2018.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Nobody expects it. Nobody sees it coming. And it's almost like a quiet insurgency. this was a this was no surprises here other than the specific outcomes and to mobilize in three different districts and not just three different districts but also like you know the senate races assembly races uh is incredibly impressive you will hear all sorts of different um uh spins on this Like what happens in New York can't translate into other places. You will hear that this was all about gentrification.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It wasn't both Chevalier and Valdez. One in cohorts, not just the sort of like new young white people, which I also think is sort of an amazing critique. from people who are saying, well, we need candidates who will work in a, you know, in Iowa. Well, where do you think the white people came from? But it's also not the case that they just won, you know, white podcast listeners. Here is Neera Tandon on CNN last night. near a Tandon who has spent the better part of the past couple of months attacking Hassan Piker on
Starting point is 00:23:00 Twitter, which to be fair, she apologized to me for, and attacking progressives across the country, saying that the, the, the DSA was a problem, et cetera, et cetera. here she is on after the results have been made public. This whole issue 2010 and 2012, you're absolutely right. Republicans took a very competitive races and they put very extreme candidates in. And I think that is not what's happening in the Democratic Party today.
Starting point is 00:23:44 What you said today is in the most liberal parts. Pause for one second. Incidentally, the three congressmen, people that we've talked about, the winners of these primaries, we can call them Congress people now because they're going to win their race. There's no Republican Party in this city. What she is addressing is that in 2010, 2012, the Republicans nominated people for the Senate like a woman named Christine O'Donnell, I believe she was in Delaware or Maryland.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And she had to publicly come out and do an ad refuting the idea that she was a witch. There were candidates who said, who were parsing distinctions of rape that lost. We're talking about candidates who won these races, and maybe their style or the way they code wouldn't necessarily translate to other cities or towns for that matter but their positions are fairly mainstream
Starting point is 00:25:06 the American public by and large perceives this as a genocide the Jewish public perceives it as a genocide the American public across the political spectrum largely want the U.S. to stop funding Israel. Medicare for all very popular.
Starting point is 00:25:32 All of these, raising the minimum wage, none of these positions are particularly radical. I don't know if Graham Platner could come down to New York City necessarily wearing his lumberjack outfit and code in the proper way for New York City in some of these districts. And I imagine some of these candidates also don't necessarily code in Iowa. But in terms of positions, not that dramatically different from anywhere else in the country. But continue. What's happening in the Democratic Party today.
Starting point is 00:26:09 What you sat today is in the most liberal parts of America, they found very liberal candidates. And, you know, those people shouldn't represent. They should get the representatives they want. But as I pointed out, in competitive districts and states, they were nominating, Democrats are nominating, sometimes more moderate candidates. Josh Turrick just won in Iowa against a more progressive candidate, a great candidate, more progressive candidate, but people believe he has a better chance of defeating Ashley Hinson. And I think that we also saw that today in New York 17. Okay. In New York 17, there was a marginal difference in the progressiveness of the candidates. Effie, who came in third, simply didn't have the money to compete in that.
Starting point is 00:27:00 But when she talks about, like, you know, nominating people in Iowa, I'm trying to think if there's any state where we can see someone who is not necessarily a proclaimed Democratic. socialist, but is talking about these issues and these exact same ways. I'm just trying to think if there's a state. I mean, Iowa is a pretty white state. There's one up in the upper right corner of the country. Oh, right. That's Maine. Yeah, that's what it's called.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Maine. And I'm trying to think they beat an establishment candidate in that primary. pretty bad quite handily yeah but yeah near tan and then people like her uh they definitely know how to win in rural areas as they've shown uh in recent history yeah keep blocking that down guys great job and i will also say like i don't think like the democratic establishment played too hard in that turrick um uh zach wals uh race because they're toxic and i think they're also incompetent which is even worse we will have a more for tweets from and stories from the so-called moderate wing of the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:28:35 A lot of tough talk from anonymous quotes. I know when I'm tough, I want to make sure I do it under the shroud of anonymity. We're going to take quick break. When we come back, I'm going to be talking to Morris Katz. He's the political strategist served as the least. media strategist for zohran momdani uh has been heavily involved in the the campaigns that took place uh across new york in main in nebraska uh in california we'll be right back after this we are back sam cedar uh on the majority report emma viglin out today it is a pleasure
Starting point is 00:29:45 uh to welcome to the program i i think i think I think it's the first time. Morris Katz, political strategist, who served as the lead media strategist for Zohra Mamdani's mayoral campaign, obviously also working on some of the campaigns that were victorious last night in New York, as well as up in Maine on Platner's campaign and others across the country. Morris, first off, congratulations. And thanks for joining us last night.
Starting point is 00:30:19 It was a late night for a lot of folks. Let's just start with, like, what, were there any surprises for you? I mean, obviously, you go into this very confident because you got to, but were there surprises in the results? And I'm specifically talking about the 7th, the 10th, and the 13th. Well, thanks for having me say that's great to be here. And I, in my mind, I'm filling in for the role of Emma today as hungover progressive next fan.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yes, you do have the Knicks shirt on there, so there it is. I think, you know, I would be a bad political operative and a bad New York Joe if I wasn't going yesterday, incredibly anxious. And so there's always the anxiety factor, and you're always both kind of hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. And what we got last night, I think, exceeded even what was the best that I was hoping for in terms of the margins that you saw Bradlander win by. and over 30-point win. I was a winning by 20. And then Dari winning, not just by, you know, a handful of votes was a close race, but I think that was at 4% when I last checked at 4.30 am.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And the level of, you know, kind of build-up of people who were, every pundits could have kind of captured every single thing there was to say of, oh, young people aren't going to turn out. Oh, the Monsani coalition was unique. Oh, it was just a referendum on Andrew Cuomo that was able to hold that coalition together. Oh, incumbents aren't popular. All of that being disproven feels pretty good and in such a dramatic fashion. I think some of what's exciting about it is we so often see the dynamic in which politicians who shape a new coalition.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Required as part of that is always kind of an act of an ask of faith, like faith to believe in a different kind of politics and different kind of candidates to believe that voting matters. And it's really cool to see that when you reward that faith with good governance, that coalition can be maintained. Um, let's talk about, I wanted to get into some of those, uh, the spins that we're going to hear in the wake. Um, but let's, uh, what, what's the proof of concept here? Like, there's a, there's a theory of power. You're building on something. What, what is it the that this showed? I think it showed the immense popularity of Mary Mundani. I also think it showed the, the, you know, the, immense success, organizational discipline and power of New York City DSA. I also think it showed an overall hunger for a different kind of politics that we've been seeing kind of across the country trickling in this cycle. But I hope that it would aggressively break through after last night that it's no longer enough to just be like, I'm going to fight Donald Trump and all of our issues can be reduced to 1600 pen and that kind of theory of our job is to protect
Starting point is 00:33:24 the status quo, to protect the institutions of power. I think what you're seeing when you saw in New York and across the country is just this immense, immense hunger to change that and to fight not just Donald Trump, but to fight everything being captured by that status quo. And that was true in New York and it's been true. It was true in Philadelphia. It was true in California. it's been true across the country. And I think it's also true from research we're saying in general election electorate. What I thought was fascinating was
Starting point is 00:33:54 not to pick on Dan Goldman, but I'm happy to pick on Dan Goldman. Of course. Even after, in his concession speech, or at least in interviews, I think I saw afterwards, I mean, he was like, we've got to stay focused that the real problem is Donald Trump. And I spend a lot of my
Starting point is 00:34:14 time talking about Donald Trump being the problem, and I would extend that to the Republican Party. But even in losing, he does not seem to understand, and I suspect this is the case of a lot of the establishment Democrats, that there are structural problems that people have issues with that they feel the Democratic Party is not addressing. And even in losing, he didn't seem to understand what what people were saying to him. It does not, I would say it shocks me, but I'm like, I think I'm beyond being shocked by a refusal to learn lessons by the party establishment. The thing that in this, I think you know, President Graham, who you mentioned and all these
Starting point is 00:35:00 different candidates, this kind of more populous wave that's coming through, what they understand that I think those empowered don't is the very basic principle. And like, I felt this way when people were shocked again at Trump II winning, or it's like, the reality there is we had power for 12 of 16 years. And if we're not going to be honest about not having done enough, about people's lives having gotten worse during that period of time, then we're just so deeply disconnected from the lived reality that, like, of course we're not going to be able to win elections.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And I think the people who still believe that we are in a battle to protect the powers that be in the systems that be in the institutions are so disconnected from a reality in which those institutions are coming down. The question is, like, is it going to be done by the fascists or is it going to be done by us and who's going to rebuild them and who are they going to work for? And the people asking that question, I think, are succeeding the people who are pretending that, you know, once Donald Trump's out of office, we're going to be okay. I would assume we're living in 2019. What was the role? And I asked this, obviously, woke up this morning in New York.
Starting point is 00:36:07 As a Jew, I'm terrified because of the results last night, or at least that's what I've. been told, I should be terrified. I made it down here to work. No problem today. I'm sure also, as a Jew, it must be very difficult for you. But what role did, I mean, obviously we see it in the context of Bradlander and the Goldman race. But what role does the awareness of Israel's genocide, the sense that the United States should not be actively participating or enabling this genus, that in fact should be creating a different dynamic with Israel, a different relationship. What role does that play in not just these races, but across the country, do you think? I think that it's, you know, Dorothea often said that, you know, invest in babies, not bombs.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And I think it's a great concise distillation of what's at the heart of the issue, where you have, I think, appeals to such a large swath of voters. Some of those voters care very deeply about the issue of House community liberation, specifically, about occupation, specifically, about any of the kind of specific nuances of what's happening there. And I think that if you're not talking about it, you're not going to turn those voters out. And so that's just a kind of electoral analysis of that belief. But I think there's an even broader thing that reaches beyond people who are high information on the genocide that speaks to, like, if you're willing to sell anyone out, are you, it doesn't pass this smell test. You know, it feels like, you're willing to turn a blind eye to this. You're willing to tell me that I'm not seeing the things I'm seeing my phone. oh, and also there's not money for any of the things that make my life better, but there's money for this.
Starting point is 00:38:11 It doesn't pass the smell test. And I think it speaks to a politics that then can't be trusted. And it plants the seed of distrust, the seed of corruption, the seat of dishonesty, that then kind of robs you of credibility on everything else. And that's what a lot of politicians don't understand. It's like people, you know, I hear all the time from like more establishment politicians when they're justifying their positions. Like, I'm not hearing about this in my district. And it's like, no, but when you're hearing about your district, it's there's not money for affordable housing,
Starting point is 00:38:39 but there's not money for new jobs, there's not money for health care. And when those people are then seeing that there's money for, you know, billions of dollars for Iran or money to send to Netanyahu years and years into what is clearly the systemic ethnic cleansing of a people, that then is, like, you know, an indefensible thing that undercuts anyway when you're going to talk about health care costs or housing costs or affordability. at large. There's, you know, a concept in media training called, uh, get inside the circle of trust.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And it feels like this is, um, this is simply a question of, um, the basic sort of that's the way you entered the circle of trust is to acknowledge that there's something deeply, deeply wrong here. And without doing that, I think it, it leaves people out. But, um, what is the, um, what is the, um, With that said, what are some of the spins that you anticipate coming out of this from the Democratic establishment, for lack of a better term? Well, I'm so deeply relieved we don't have to ever read the spins that would have occurred had be lost. Right, right. Well, I mean, but maybe let's start with that, though, because that is like, you, you know, you. You could see some of the pre spins already being sort of like put into the,
Starting point is 00:40:09 the chamber and those were loaded. Like, Mamdani has gone too far in New York, that it is creating fissures, which I think seems to me to be completely contrary to everything I understand about politics on some level. And the idea that this is just not the, I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:30 there was a piece from a year ago when Jeffrey's people, apparently had said, like, if these guys want to do primaries, good luck to them. We're going to take it to them. And it didn't seem to work out that way. I mean, look, I think, like, I mean, I've got a number of texts I've gotten from reporters start the day, but we're clearly preparing to write stories about how we lost. You know, oh, I heard you would recommend it this. I heard the, you know, mayor had the second thoughts of it, all different kind of bullshit
Starting point is 00:40:58 of people ready to circle and try to claim. a narrative. And I think now in the absence of that, they're going to pivot away to what is, and even I think we're saying it's already, a surprising tactic of blaming the voters. Like I think of being like, oh, this is what MAGA does.
Starting point is 00:41:17 This is what, and like, to that, I think I'd say, yeah, know who has power in the White House and the United States Senate and the U.S. House right now, MAGA. And that's, you know, because they, the people took over their party and they're wrong in what they,
Starting point is 00:41:32 are trying to do, they're wrong with what they're saying and the laws they're pushing, but they have an electoral majority because they have a party that's responsive to where their people are. And I don't know how many more times, you know, people are, I'm sure, we'll do things about, oh, this is a liability in sling districts and swing estates. This is messy. We have no power right now. Like, we, the idea that we are somehow jeopardizing the electoral strength of a party that is in a, what feels like a, permanent minority and doesn't have the White House makes no sense. And then not just that.
Starting point is 00:42:08 When you look at the candidates who I think are doing the best job to cycle in swing places, they're running campaigns in what is a cohesive message with what you saw last night. Like it is outsiders who want to see dark money out of our politics, who want to take on corruption, and who have real ideas to address an affordability crisis. And that's not going to look the same in the common corridor as it looks in Texas. It's not going to look the same in New York Canada. It looks in Maine. But that is a big tent that works.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And what people are fucking angry about is the fact that they want a big tent where, like, as long as you don't go off to AIPAC, as long as you don't question the kind of political establishment, the powers that be, we don't really care what else do you think. And the flip of that, I think, is, you know, going to make a lot of people angry, but that's okay. What is that, that tent pole? I mean, if you were to distill it, you know, as you, the difference between, the the commie corridor uh texas main uh for that matter what is the one what is the distillation of the message that that comes across man i think it was on i don't know if it was on meet the
Starting point is 00:43:17 press it was one of the sunday shows or the weekend shows i saw you where you you made a point of like there has to be a specific agenda and i'm just contrasting that to what i've heard uh from democrat saying that like well we need a big enough tent where We care about working people, but we also care about billionaires. And that seems like that seems like a tent that is, has nothing suspending it in some way. Yes, I think that's well fun. Sam, because I feel comfortable on your show and with your viewership. I'm not visiting and when we talk here.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Oh, feel free. I think like the example I like to use is like Sherrod Brown, who I think hopefully will be back in the Senate and who, when he was in the Senate, was one of the maybe three or four best senators and most progressive, I would say, populist senators. And he was winning Ohio, overperforming Ohio, is up in the polls right now in Ohio. And that's off of an entire platform around the dignity of work, raising the minimum wage, fighting back against the bad free trade deals that fucked everything off, taking dark money out of politics, supporting unions.
Starting point is 00:44:28 The idea that that is somehow, like, cannot be, a part of the same party as someone like Cair Valdez who has essentially the exact same vision, who's a union organizer, who believes that the way we get back to an economy that works for everyone is empowering unions and empowering workers. That is a cohesive message. And I think it's a big enough tent for a Sherrod Brown
Starting point is 00:44:53 and Claire Valdez for a Dari Elisa and the James Carrico for a Graham Platner and Bob Brooks and Randy Diaz and all these candidates who, if we put them in a room, they would come out with, you know, there'd be areas of disagreement, but they'd come out with perfect alignment that we should not be allowing members of Congress to enrich themselves on stocks,
Starting point is 00:45:17 so we should not be allowing members of Congress to have lobbyists dictate their votes, that we should be doing everything in our power to bring unions roaring back, that we should raise wages, that we should have universal healthcare, all of those things, like that's a ton to unite, And instead, we have all this, what I call like the blob Democrats in the middle that take up all this room with like the least popular positions.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And it drives me crazy as someone who does both primaries and a lot of competitive races. Like the myth of this idea that somehow the left is liability in these elections, I find so infuriating. Like even when people get into identity politics bullshit, it's like 2016 Hillary Clinton invented identity politics in our Democratic Party. like that is what's the lag on the democratic party. The lag on the Democratic Party is when that they think we're fucking corrupt because a lot of us, a lot of the people in the party are corrupt. That's the lag and we need to kind of exile that. How much of what we hear from so-called moderate Democratic,
Starting point is 00:46:20 you know, it's very difficult, it's such an amorphous term and I think deliberately so. How much of it is a function of, of their politics translating into the mechanics of what they do. In other words, there's an ideology associated with DSA that necessarily means we're going to bring a lot of people up onto the street. And that's the way we're going to run this camp. But we're not going to raise a ton of money and do television campaigns. Obviously, money helps. But that money, a significant portion of that money is going to go towards organizing as opposed to,
Starting point is 00:47:00 a blanketing a message. That blanketing a message is also very profitable for your counterparts working for Dan Goldman, let's say. How much, like, what's the relationship there between the politics on the ground, the ideology, and the mechanism, almost like the corporate structure around the way that certain Democrats get elected? And I think, like, you know, has someone who, like, makes ads and that's what pays the bills. One of the things that I think has been really interesting. I can still very lucky to have done to work on so many of these campaigns now in collaborative or on DSA races.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Because I think there's, you hit this magic where what you, the message you are telling people on their screens is seen on the streets and felt at their doors. And it's like you're running of saying that Sarah Valdez, for example, is, um, a movement leader who is not just going to vote the right way, but is going to bring together masses of people to create incredible change. That's a case I can make in a 30-second television ad.
Starting point is 00:48:12 But if then people are walking around their neighborhoods and not seeing anyone, if no one's ever knocked on their doors, if they've never interacted with another human being is talking about it, it doesn't feel credible. And I think that when you hit this kind of combination of those things, it's a really magical middle ground. I also think TV paid me in general does not work for large swaths of what the new electorate are.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And that's, you know, there's no one tactic anymore and you need to do all of it. And I think that anyone who's not, you know, for obviously I don't like him, but I thought Tom Swazzi actually had a good book this morning, which is a bunch of people, all the anti-DSA people are wringing their hands at cocktail parties while DSA is organizing. Right. And, you know, I'm sure he has the wrong conclusion. it's a right analysis. And I think that's true. And I think, like, the consultant industrial complex component
Starting point is 00:49:06 that bothers me the most is when we talk about the one that is like the example on campus, the people are like Bernie Sanders is a, you know, you can't take that Bernie endorsement, that's cling seat. You can't take, and it's like, you guys are not, like, hypothetically, numbers people who don't care about ideology, who just want to win. And poll after poll after poll after poll tells us that he's the most popular politician in America. That is no longer an analysis as a consultant or as a staffer.
Starting point is 00:49:37 You're just imposing an ideology. And I do think it's a mix of a desire for profit and a mix of a lot of the people who at this moment all work in politics are people who have their own ideological beliefs who come to power in a system that they trust. And there's just like a little bit of a wholeier than now faith in the institution. of politics that is, you know, kind of bullshit and unhealthy. Yeah, I think that is, I mean, I think that that seems to me to be the part that is sort of like really ossified within the Democratic Party. What is the, what, and I know you got to go and I appreciate your time.
Starting point is 00:50:17 I imagine you got a lot of interviews. I think for a few minutes of whatever you. Okay. Great. The, what does this say to the leadership? I mean, I, I should say full disclosure. I tweeted last night that I thought Chuck Schumer was probably scrolling through retirement communities by 11 p.m. last night. But what is it? I mean, for Chuck Schumer and for Hakeem Jeffries, both of whom were ranging from hostile to extremely annoyed at Mamdani's run, this is their backyard.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Like this is like a 20 minutes away from where they live. They, they lost two incumbents. What does it say? How much is this going to impact their decision making? Schumer's as to whether his career is going to go forward or in Jeffries in terms of like how he'll be a leader if he starts to see where this is going. I'm going to kind of choose to take the good faith forward-looking version of an answer here. Where I say I think we truly all are aligned on wanting a Democratic majority in both the Senate and in the House. And I think if you look at last night, there is a lot of good lessons to learn and reasons for faith and hope and optimism.
Starting point is 00:51:50 That people who have not previously been reliable voters are now reliable voters. that if you, that really, like, if you build it, they will come. And I think if we can scale that up across the country, if young people can vote in swing districts and swing states, the way they vote in New York last night, it's going to be a really good November for us. And so instead of kind of let's be excited about that, we don't have to be upset that we have new and exciting voices.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I think one of the other things we have a very, very bad and dangerous, eat your own mentality in our party. The Republicans get an insurgent who wins, and everyone wraps around. them. You know, Fox News runs 24-7 propaganda, they're at the White House, there are everywhere else, because they understand these are the people who bring more in, who expand our tent. And I think like I would, you know, ask leadership to kind of maybe suspend whatever their general feelings would be towards these kinds of
Starting point is 00:52:47 campaigns or candidates. And like, let's be excited. Let's talk about how Clairevall that is strengthening unions and bringing more people to work unions is going to help us win the Rust Belt back. Let's think about how Dari is going to bring new people to the table. Let's talk about how Brad Lander is going to give us credibility to talk about APAC and Israel in a way that we haven't been able to before. Let's be inclusive here. And then I think it's when we take that majority back, what do we do with it? And hearing the frustration with the establishment, like, I think we should need to hold the Republicans' fucking feet to the plane. And it can not just be dragging in like Trump person after Trump person for oversight committee stuff on, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:29 which plane he used at a given time. I think it's there's a cost of living crisis. There's a corruption crisis. We need to tie those to the Republican Party and we need to show we have an affirmative vision too. Like if we should raise the minimum wage in this country, if we don't have the votes, hold them accountable every single day. Bring it to a floor vote every single fucking day until we get it through. And if we don't, there will be no question anywhere about who's the for that. There was an Axios piece this morning, quote, appeasement doesn't work. You have to be tough. This is from a centrist House Democrat. And he's talking about, I will continue, because you hear those first couple of lines, and it's almost like, guys, we, we've seen what happens. We need to rally against
Starting point is 00:54:13 the Republicans. But he's talking about, or she is talking about the D.S. say. Nancy Pelosi brought a machine gun to a knife fight. You can't win with these guys by playing Patty Cake. These are words that should have been articulated by the candidates about the Republicans 10 years ago. And yet they're deploying them in regards to the most amount of excitement that has been in the Democratic Party, really, I mean, you know, along with AOC in the past decade. Let's talk about like what how much was there like aOC seemed to take a backseat in these races in at least in terms of like national media it seems like how much of that is is there strategy there is that she has her path. Mom Dani has his what what how much of the how much
Starting point is 00:55:16 coordination exists in there. I mean like our teams are frequently in touch. So I talk to her team frequently. The mayor talks to her frequently, and it's all incredibly strong and good relationships, and I think it's a shared vision of what we want the party and our politics to look like. I think the mayor has a specific campaign style that he emphasizes and focus on.
Starting point is 00:55:38 He's also mayor of New York City, and so she's the member of Congress with a national profile. You know, Randy Begas in California, 22, for example, he got across the finish line, I think in large part because of AAC's endorsement. Same thing with Sam Forstag in Montana. Chris Rab in Philadelphia, you know, she's been all over doing a lot of work. And I think the New York City, like, you know, the mayor's win last year is not possible without her.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And the wins last night aren't possible without her. And the kind of politics that she's brought to the table, I think with the mayor and New York, you know, and his approach to campaigning. and I do want to feel like kind of hit this point. I guess like Emma would appreciate my basketball reference here. I was watching him this week. It's like I was like watching the Bronjames when he was on the heat. Whereas kind of feels like, oh, this is just like there's nothing you can do. Like it's a pure force of nature just like someone at the top of their fucking game.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And I think there is, he gets so much joy and energy from his. engaging with people. Like the most, for all the different things about Zarnal Dani, his love of New York City and his love of people in New York City is so unbelievably profound and like walking, selfie lines, visiting restaurants, barber shops, clubs. Like, he loves it and he's incredible at it. And, you know, I think we wanted to, we weren't going to like not utilize, you know, utilize. Right. You ISO LeBron because he's he's the guy, you know, you're going to give the ball to, and everybody's sort of just like, we're just going to occupy the other defenders and let him go to
Starting point is 00:57:28 town on that. With an endorsement, because, you know, Renoso, sorry, got a lot of endorsements from unions. And I'm curious when Mamdani, when other DSA people endorse,
Starting point is 00:57:50 what is involved in terms of resources that come with that endorsement? Because one of the things that people were sort of assessing from
Starting point is 00:57:59 Ranosos' endorsements is that the union can say, in some instances, it wasn't all unions, UAW was involved in DAC's,
Starting point is 00:58:09 a win but the the the union or i should say valdez but the the union can say we're going to we give our stamp of approval but if they don't have the resources to deploy and get their people out it doesn't have the same impact versus somebody out walk us through that a little bit because I think it's a little bit opaque for people yeah i mean look i think like i think we're in an error of profound sticker endorsements, where we're talking about literally just a sticker, no one's going to recognize on a piece of wit. I think that unions have a lot of members and a lot of power still, and as they should, and I want to be more union power and more union members. I think they will find more electoral success when the candidates they back more closely align
Starting point is 00:58:55 with what is going to be best for their members. And I think the kind of part of the mayor's approach to this endorsement slave in his campaigning. He went above and beyond. And I think a lot of that has been seen, but I'm working months and months of fundraisers, of phone banks, of canvas launches, signing off on any text that was needed for volunteer recruitment, recording voicemails, using his platform repeatedly on cable news, on different platforms, literally walking across every single district he was in, like the non-stop investment from him, I think is something that you really almost never see from someone
Starting point is 00:59:37 with that level of political celebrity. You know, like I was talking to someone earlier and I said, yeah, he may be a political celebrity now, but once an organizer, always an organizer. Right. And I think that's kind of the approach he has where for a lot of the kind of general political establishment blob endorsements, what you're seeing is like some money moved through a pack, you know, a sticker on a mailer and a bunch of people on consultant calls with different I guess. How does, in the absence of Mamdani, when you're in Maine, when you're in California, when you're in, you know, across the country, how is the absence of a Mamdani, like what translates, what goes in? Obviously, you need a candidate who is going to have speaking to the issues of working class.
Starting point is 01:00:26 But from an organizational standpoint, how replicable is this? I think what's deeply reputable is the thing of like, you know, there are few, one, like, speaking to sound of point I was making the ad and organizing. You can't run a movement campaign if it doesn't feel like a movement. And so, like, there's a, you know, broad desire a lot of the times to kind of cut field, to, like, you get a lot of eye rolls on it. And I think that that is always a massive mistake and a misunderstanding. I like to kind of pride myself on being the only media consultant, I think cuts TV budgets to put
Starting point is 01:01:01 money into field. And you need the organizing. You need conversations. There's still, I like, I always said TDS is a substitute for the person who doesn't answer the door when we knock. And I think there's that kind of strategic approach. But then the other part of it is like, we can't, and this is true with the digital content that the mayor puts out, that everyone tries to emulate with different walking talks now. It's true with ad campaigns. And it's true, even with field, if you have nothing to say, you have nothing to say. And the voters bullshit meters are really high, and you need something to fucking say. And I think, you know, I'm very fortunate to a lot of times with incredible candidates who are inherently incredible messengers.
Starting point is 01:01:41 But I think there's no reason that every candidate in the country who's running can't decide, I'm going to run aggressively on not allowing billionaires to buy elections. I'm going to run aggressively on very tangible ideas to adjust the cost of living crisis. I'm going to call out what I see is what it is, whether that's genocide, whether that's, whether that's crypto, whether that's AI. And also we're going to build a campaign that meets people where they are. And I find it like very, the notion that electorates are locked in as what they are, I think is a lie that is sold to us by people who do not want the electorates to change.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And if we communicate with people where they are and with a message that reaches them, we can change what those electorates are. Last question. Have you gotten any text? calls from someone who may have been sort of perceived this movement as a rival and they said, okay, let's do this. I mean, is there has a bit, are you anticipating anything like that or have you gotten one? You don't have to say who it is.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I've done a decent amount of outreach of, whoops, I guess you were right. I've gotten a decent amount of outreach of a lot of people want to get drinks next week. You won't have to pay for a drink for a while, I have a feeling. Yeah, and I think there's a broad sense of, like, from a lot of, there are a lot of good faith. like we were kind of poking at some of the people who I think are bad faith in their post analysis. I think there are a lot of good faith elected officials who do want to actually represent the people they're serving and just like have bad consultants or have believed that the city was in a different place or their positions were a different place. And I think it's like is an important message to them of I don't think, I don't like, and you know, everyone might have different takes on this.
Starting point is 01:03:48 This is me talking on behalf of the mayor or anyone else. Like, I'm not interested in gatekeeping the movie. Like, if people get to the right places through real good faith conclusions, come on board. Like, it is not too late to say the word genocide. It is not too late to not take pack money. It's not too late to do any of those things. And, like, even some of the people, I think, have done it politically motivated. That's not what you want, but it's still healthier for the party.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And if anyone has any sense of electoral political survival, I think they would start moving in that direction. Well, I'm encouraged that you're getting so many drink offers because that's, it's indicative of, I think, at least a certain percentage of candidates and electeds out there and consultants. On some level, it's just a question of fear. They don't want to be the first person out on that branch
Starting point is 01:04:42 or they see it. And now they can see that it's fairly safe to travel there. That's a good thing. Morris Katz, thanks so much for your time today. Again, congratulations. Good luck for the rest of the next six months. We're counting on you. Now you're running.
Starting point is 01:05:02 There's more to come. Well, actually, you know what? It's actually closer to like four, four and a half, if that makes it any easier. Four months. Hang in there. Really appreciate it. Thanks so much, Sam. We're back.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Emma Vigland may join us for the first. and half, ladies and gentlemen, before we get there, some of this came up in the interview with Morris Katz, but let's just do a slight tour around Democratic moderates, Democratic, conservative, corporatists, Democrats, Democrats who have lost significantly in the past and how they're dealing with this really, like, it was a political earthquake last night. There is nobody in the establishment who anticipated three for three. Everybody, I think, was anticipating Brad Lander winning.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I think probably it was 50-50 as to Valdez. despite the fact that she ends up winning by 20 points. But the idea that Chevalier would defeat a 19-year vet, sitting incumbent, I think, was very surprising for people. Here's Jamie Harrison. Jamie Harrison, what year was he the DNC chair? 2021 to 2025. 2021 to 2025, you will recall that Democrats lost all those elections.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Right? I mean, now off your election, okay. But Democrats lost all those elections. Here is Jamie Harrison, and he writes, I say this with no will, and excuse me, no ill will or animosity. If you hate the Democratic Party, then please don't run for our nomination. Don't use our resources. Don't rely on our volunteers.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Don't use our infrastructure. Don't ask Democrats to invest their time, money, and energy in your campaign. Now, here's the weird part. If you hate the Democratic Party, first off, let's just put aside the sort of reduction. of this to like, honestly, like, I feel like this is like upper levels of elementary school stuff. In New York City, middle school starts in sixth grade. But when I grew up, sixth grade was elementary school. I feel like this is sixth grade stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:20 But put that aside for a moment. If you're running for the nomination and presumably folks like Jamie Harrison don't like you, then you are not relying on their volunteers. You are not relying on their infrastructure. You are not asking Democrats to invest their time, money, and energy in your campaign. You're asking voters to do that. And they're deciding. The Democratic, the idea like you hate the Democratic Party is.
Starting point is 01:09:05 is so this is not a football team. This is not your favorite team. The reason why people are involved in politics is because of outcomes. The idea that like I'm a Democrat just because it's like I like, I like words that start with D or, you know, my dad was a Democrat and so it makes me feel good about myself. the whole point of a of a political party is to deliver to you what you want from politics.
Starting point is 01:09:45 And the idea that there's a democratic party that exists outside of it functioning to bring about political results is part of the problem. the idea that there should be just this naked loyalty to a party divorced from from its potential to deliver outcomes is just bizarre yeah i mean you could say his jami harrison type democrats hate the democratic party because they don't want to make it look like fDRs and want to make it look like clinton they have a different vision and jimmy harrison doesn't like it and he hides the ball i mean here's the thing uh I've been accused many, many times of vote blue no matter who. And I would say that's 99.99% true. Like, theoretically it's possible.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I would say, well, I would never say vote for a Republican. Certainly I would say vote for an independent if there was an opportunity for them to win. But the whole point of the Democratic Party is because it's the best vehicle in any given situation, not always, but in a situation to bring about political change. You know, I can imagine some local elections where it's not necessarily the best vehicle to do that, but we start getting into federal elections without a doubt, depending on the state, without a doubt. You know, Nebraska, it's not.
Starting point is 01:11:24 his whole idea is just so stupid and i can't tell who it's supposed to appeal to focus on building the party you actually support okay that's exactly what they're doing what's happening political parties aren't perfect i don't even know what that means thanks jamy they are built by millions of people who knock doors make calls organized meetings and fight for the values they believe in the reason why all of those dsa candidates won last night is because they did those things more fervently,
Starting point is 01:12:02 more consistently, more competently, than their opponents. That's it. If you don't believe in the party, what? What do you mean? Don't believe in it. It exists.
Starting point is 01:12:18 And the question is, is what, in what form is it going to be? I would say to Jamie Harrison, And if you don't believe that the Democratic Party in 1936 or 1965, 1995 are different from each other than you have no business. I would say tweeting, running anything, spelling, tying your shoes, none of it. It's so juvenile. Speaking of business, and I say this with the no ill-will or animosity, before he was the leader of the DNC,
Starting point is 01:13:00 Jamie Harrison was a lobbyist for the pedestrian group for clients, including Bank of America, Wells Faroe, Berkshire, Hathaway, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity in Walmart, just to note that. Oh. But the parties are made up of millions of people. Some of those millions get to rise to the top if they had, you know, great corporate clients.
Starting point is 01:13:20 He's a concierge. This is a type of politics where people like Jamie Harrison have sold the Democratic Party ballot line to corporations so that they can control the outcomes of politics. And people don't like that anymore. And they're going to get their clocks cleaned. And what's amazing about this now is how weak the Jamie Harrison wing is. It's stunning. And I would also say to Jamie Harrison, where this party is today. If you hate it, maybe you need to stop pretending like you represent it.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah. Start your own priority, Jamie. All right. Let's turn to the other reaction that we saw from not necessarily liberals. This guy was like a new republic writer under Marty Peretz, so that tells you just about everything you need to know. James Kirchick, Jamie Kirchick, they used to call them back in the day. with Dara Lisa Chevalier's victory tonight, publicly exalting in the mass murder of Jews is no longer a barrier to high office in the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 01:14:35 I do not recall her publicly exulting in the mass murder of Jews. But the attempt by folks like Jamie Kurchick and this guy, Jamie Metzell, what's going on with the Jamie's? Jay Street I am a lifelong Democrat I served in the White House for President Clinton
Starting point is 01:15:00 awesome in the State Department for Madeline Albright and with the United Nations in Cambodia I believe the most important role of any government is to protect the most vulnerable people in society and create an environment where
Starting point is 01:15:17 everyone can realize their fullest potential So it gives me no pleasure. A lot of people are saying things very reluctantly. It gives me no pleasure to have to come to the following conclusion. The American left, including the left wing of the Democratic Party,
Starting point is 01:15:40 currently embracing an orgy. That's how you know he worked for Clinton. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. An orgy of It continues. Vivalent anti-Semitism. Now,
Starting point is 01:15:58 I think Jamie Kurchick is upset about the leftward, the rise of the left within the Democratic Party. I think this other guy, this other Jamie, Metzell, I think he just might also have this sort of like, like literally
Starting point is 01:16:19 psychological problem. Anti-Semitism, is definitely on the rise in this country, but it is vastly on the right. I mean, it's not even comparable. And the anti-Semitism we're talking about is through social bigotry. But it's not systemic in the way that it was even like around the time of my birth where there was still like a country club you couldn't get into or some schools
Starting point is 01:17:08 that still may have had quotas in the 60s for Jews or, you know, people wouldn't sell their houses to Jews. When I was a kid, it was not like a weird anomaly to get a penny thrown at you by other kids. it was not strange for me to have people who who were friends of mine coming up to me and go like, don't you know me down. I'm like, dude, what do you say? I'm Jewish.
Starting point is 01:17:43 And they're like, I thought it was just a verb. I met a girl in college from West Virginia in the early 80s who thought I would have horns who literally thought, that Jews had horns. We're not at that place. We're at the bigotry of the right that sees Jews as being responsible for black people and brown people gaining power in the country. This stuff where the criticism of Israel is equated with anti-Semitism, we have said this now for
Starting point is 01:18:30 years is it's grotesque and some times it's used sort of opportunistically it's cynical and cynically and there are other times I honestly genuinely think it is
Starting point is 01:18:46 a mass sort of trauma response I don't know what else to say it's just bizarre um And the fascinating thing about it is, again, Bradlander, the primary disagreement they had was a perspective on Israel, the Jewish district in the country.
Starting point is 01:19:21 And to the extent that Claire Valdez lost the Saddamar vote in her race, The Saddamars are a Hasidic community that are probably more anti-Zionist than Valdez. They believe that Judaism and Zionism are diametrically opposed. So to the extent that she lost that vote, that was because the borough president had a relationship with the Saddamars. That was all transactional. But I would bet that every non-Hasitic Jew that voted in this election, and there were many, voted for the candidates that supposedly were engaged in an orgy of anti-Semitism. Because now you're in a position of basically telling Jews, you don't know what you're doing,
Starting point is 01:20:26 which I find to be horribly anti-Semitic. All right, with all that said, we're going to head into the fun half. Emma just stumbled in. Oh, yeah, there soon. Wow. It's like the shiting. Somebody's still drunk. Watch out.
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Starting point is 01:23:47 It's an amazing, amazing book. So check out our interview with Devin on Left Reckoning. See you in the fun half. And that's at Brian Voki on Instagram. Jamie and I may have a disagreement. Yeah, you can't just say whatever you want about people just because you're rich. I have an absolute right to mock them on YouTube. He's up their buggy whipping like he's the boss.
Starting point is 01:24:17 I am not your employer. You know, I'm tired of the negativity. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to upset you. You're nervous. You're a little bit upset. You're riled up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Maybe you should rethink your defense of that. You're fucking idiots. We're just going to get rid of you. All right. But dude. Dude. Dude. Dude.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Dude. You want to smoke this joint? Yes. Do you feel like you are a dinosaur? It's a good shit. Exactly. I'm happy now. It's a win, win, win.
Starting point is 01:24:49 It's a win, win, win. Uh, hell yeah. Now listen to me. Two, three, four, five times. Eight, four, seven, nine oh six, five, one, four, five, seven. Two, 38, 56, 27. One-half, five-eighths, three point nine billion. Wow.
Starting point is 01:25:08 He's the ultimate math, third. Don't you see? Why don't you get a real job instead of steering vitriol and hatred, you left wing Lin-Baw? Everybody's taking their dumb juice today. Come on, Sammy. Dance, dance, dance. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:25:24 I had my. first post-coital scene with a woman. I'm hoping that more moves to my repertoire. All I have is the dip and the swirl. Fine, we can double-diff. Yes, this is a perfect moment. No. Wait, what? You make under a million dollars a year. You're
Starting point is 01:25:40 scum. You're not saying. Excuse me? Fuck you. You fucking liberal elite. I think you belong in jail. Thank you for saying that, Sam. You're a horrible, despicable person. All right, going to take quick break. I want to take a moment to talk to some of the libertarians out there.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Take whatever vehicle you want To drive to the library What you're talking about is jibber jabs Classic I'm feeling more chill already Donald Trump can kiss all of our asses Hey Sam Hey Andy you guys ready to do some evil
Starting point is 01:26:16 Hitler was such an idiot You think I might be a Nazi Agree No Death to America Do Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Wow, that's weird. No way. Unbelievable. This guy's got a really good hook. Throw her hands. But Sam, I've got to get off. No worries. I want to just flesh this out a little bit.
Starting point is 01:26:51 I mean, look, it's a free speech issue if you don't like me. Hey, hey, hey, hey, shut up. Thank you for calling into the majority report. Sam will be with you shortly.

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