The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3685 - ICE Is Caught Lying; What's Next In Maine's Senate Race; Iran Traps Trump w/ Ryan Grim

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

It's Casual Friday on The Majority Report On today's program: More details emerge in the murder of Lorenzo Salgado Araujo at the hands of ICE. The coroner has ruled Araujo's death a homicide which corroborates with the accounts of witnesses. Joe Scarborough has harsh words for ICE, showing that the anger with the agency's violence and brutality has broken through into the mainstream. Ryan Grim, journalist, co-host of Breaking Points and co-founder of Drop Site News, joins the program to recap the week's news. Topics include Graham Platner, other senate races and the War on Iran. In the Fun Half: JD Vance tries and fails miserably at trying a Wisconsin accent. Colorado GOP nominee for governor, Victor Marx, claims he was forced to murder someone when he was only 7 years old but won't elaborate on the situation. Marx also refuses to answer how many people he has killed in his life, saying it isn't relevant. On a TPUSA podcast, Marx claims to have threatened to kill his psychiatrist. Meghan Hays, a former Biden staffer, goes on CNN and tries to imply that Abdul El-Sayed could have Graham Platner-style skeletons in his closet because they share some of the same consultants. Haley Stevens is asked about a website the El-Sayed campaign created that loops her screaming that "Isreal comes to her in her dreams". Dave Portnoy is seriously considering running for mayor of New Yok City, claiming that he is as good at the internet as Zohran Mamdani's crew is. All that and more. Join Emma for a virtual DSA event: Workers Deserve More: DSA's 2026-27 Program Launch on Tuesday, July 14 To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is [phone]. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AM Quickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: LEESA: Go to Leesa.com for their July 4th Sale get 30% off PLUS an extra $50 off with promo code MAJORITY SHOPIFY: Sign up for a $1/month at shopify.com/majority SUNSET LAKE CBD: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com.  Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.

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Wednesday, casual hump day. Thursday, casual thurs. That's what we call it. And Friday, casual Shabbat. The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. It is Friday. July 10th, 2026. My name is Emma Vigland in for Sam Cedar,

and this is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live. steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Ryan Grimm, journalist, co-host of Breaking Points and co-founder of Dropsite News will be with us. Also on the program, a medical examiner has ruled Lorenzo Salgado Arroyo's death a homicide after ICE killed him. DHS was forced to admit that he was not the target of their ice search. They were just patrolling the neighborhood for two Guatemalan men to racially profile and ruin their lives and deport them. Claudia Scheinbaum says Mexico will push the U.S. to file charges against officials responsible for the deaths of Mexican citizens by ice in the streets and in ICE custody.

Victor Marx is officially the Republican gubernatorial nominee in Colorado. Maybe my new favorite character in politics. He's a real wild one. He's a killer. Literally. Yes. He says he is. No, he brags.

He won't tell you how many people he knows. He rags about killing all the time. He also performs exorcisms over the phone. What a nice guy. Convenient. I'm assuming that's not free I don't think it's a public service now after resuming bombing Iran

causing oil prices to skyrocket Trump meekly says talks will resume Israel shared intelligence with President Trump that Iran is trying to assassinate him by intelligence I mean fables to try to get him

to continue the war. Trump is refusing to sign the bipartisan housing bill that was passed with a veto-proof majority, which means it's going to become law at midnight anyway. And he could take credit for it, but he's too petty because of the SAVE Act. New Mexico's Attorney General says the DOJ is obstructing their investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's estate. The White House purges the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, ousting three sitting members yesterday ahead of the midterm. Not good.

Venezuela's death toll from a pair of earthquakes has risen to over 3,800 as the country pleads for sanctions relief to attend to the devastation. Israeli attacks kill at least six people overnight in Gaza. The genocide is ongoing, and the ceasefire is broken basically every day. And lastly, Graham Platner tells staff he will formally exit the Senate race on Monday as Maine Democrats cobbled together a nominating convention. Troy Jackson emerges as the left-wing choice and the one that Platner volunteers are most enthusiastic about.

All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome to the show, everybody. It is casual Friday. Hallelujah. It is Friday. Hello, Matt. Hello, Brian. We've got a great show for you today.

Ryan Grimm will be with us. We'll maybe have some disagreements. We'll iron some things out. And we'll be talking about the Senate race is both in Maine, in Michigan and more, perhaps in Minnesota, and also the latest on the Iran War. But the Department of Homeland Security has now been forced to admit

that Lorenzo Salgado Arroyo, the father of three, who was killed by a federal immigration agent during a traffic stop in Houston earlier this week, they were just forced to admit that he was not the man that they were looking for. Instead, they were rolling through

a historically Mexican neighborhood in the Houston area, looking for people from Guatemala to round up and deport and ruin their lives. lives. Arroyo was a Mexican immigrant who had lived in the United States for 35 years. He leaves behind three... Two years less than I've been alive.

Right. He older than... Yeah, exactly. Older than me. He built a life here with children and a wife. His children went to college. They were, and he was... They are, and he was just as American as any of us.

but was forced to languish in a sub-citizen status because our immigration system is so sadistic and broken that we don't give pathways to citizenship for so many people in this country who then are exploited by their bosses with poor working conditions and poor wages and no health care. And that is beneficial to many people in our economy, and that's why this has not been addressed.

and they are made more vulnerable in these kinds of situations. This makes 10 people now that have been shot and killed by the ICE Gestapo in Trump's second term. There have also been at least 50 people who have died in ICE custody that we know of. So once again, this is an issue of a federalized police force that is legally authorized to essentially racially profile, harass, and abuse and kidnap people. people. Mark Wayne Mullen now leads the agency after Christy Noem was a part of Trump's purge of women from his administration that were really just acting at his and Stephen Miller's directive in their sadism. But of course, all the women get fired first, which is just hilarious. Susie Wiles stands alone as the Trump whisperer in the White House who remains. But like, DHS is now saying that the officers were not wearing. body cameras. What a coincidence. Literally nothing

that DHS says should be taken at face value. And we now have a Washington Post interview with three witnesses. They all say the same thing that Lorenzo Salgado Arroyo did not

ram into the unmarked ice car but that the agents fired at the vehicle anyway. and that they were making fun of him and mocking the other passengers as he bled out. So here's what the Washington Post reported.

We'll scroll to this maybe third paragraph here. DHS released a statement hours after the deadly shooting saying that Salgado Oroyo had rammed an immigration and customs enforcement vehicle and weaponized his white work van in an attempt to run over an ICE law enforcement officer. That is a lie, wrote Jose Trinidad Rojas, 51 in a handwritten statement. It is impossible for them to say that they were going to get run over. There were no officers in front of or behind the vehicle.

They were on the sides. And then this is the attorney, Baldaris Ibarra, who got these statements from these men, who, by the way, are now, as the article highlights, facing removal proceedings after going through this horrific event. They're incarcerated themselves because of their status. their undocumented status. Speaking to Rojas, Daniel Trio Patoia,

43, and the shooting victim's brother, Victor Salgado, 44, and said he heard the same story from each as he interviewed them separately. The men are not being housed together, the attorney said. All three are undocumented Mexican immigrants who are now facing removal proceedings.

And then we can just skip ahead a little bit to, they describe what happened here the men who were in the van told this lawyer that Tuesday had begun like any other morning as they headed to a construction site. They were traveling on Wayside Drive, headed toward Interstate 10, around 6.30 a.m. after buying ice and water. They pulled up to a stoplight when an unmarked vehicle came up behind the van and started following them. When the van accelerated as the light turned green, the unfamiliar vehicle pulled out onto the shoulder, accelerated and cut in front of Salgado Oroyo, who was driving and tapped on the brakes, the men said. That's when Salgado Oroyo made a U-turn.

At that point, officers turned on their police lights, according to the testimony they gave the attorney. As the vehicle continued onto Canal Street, they proceeded slowly because of heavy construction on the roadway. The men told Baldaris Ibarra, again, this is their lawyer, that they were moving at no more than five miles per hour on the road. They said ICE rammed their vehicles into the work van, but at no point did Selgado Oroyo use his vehicle to hit law enforcement's cars. Lorenzo thought we had lost them, but suddenly they surrounded us. Rojas wrote by hand on a legal pad viewed by the post.

An officer then jumped out of one of the vehicles, ran toward them from the side, and yelled stop. He started firing from the passenger side of the van, hitting Salgado Oroyo in the abdomen. Victor Salgado, the driver's brother, said he felt the force of the firearm as the agent pointed the gun toward his brother. When he shot my brother, the gun was in front of my face, read Baldara Sabara from his interview notes of his conversation with Salgado. The brother was sitting in the passenger seat when the agent pulled a trigger. Sogado Arroyo was unable to stop the van and place it in park, the men said, but the officer or officers continued to unload additional rounds from the sides of the vehicle. Rojas described the agents violently pulling Salgado Arroyo out of the driver's seat and throwing him to the ground. They put handcuffs on their wrists and feet.

Victor Salgado said his brother was yelling for help as he was bleeding out. It just happened so fast, Salgado told the attorney. The three men lay helpless as their boss lay dying. This is in Spanish, but the translation is he heard an ice agent, the brother, saying to him in a mocking tone, you want to escape, right? So, Karen Escapar Verdad. I wonder if that was a Latino ice agent. The three men in custody have all been in the country for more than two decades.

living without documents and with no criminal record. They have family and children here and now are currently after having to witness their friend and in one instance brother being murdered in front of them are potentially having their families broken up and they're in nice custody as we speak. At any point, Democrats could have done mass amnesty now, called it Reagan Amnesty 2.0

and given all these people documentation. Instead, we've been pitter-patterned around, maybe we'll do something for the dreamers. you need to take care of these people and get them out of this limbo. And that's after we stop this ICE Gestapo occupation of American cities where they're killing people. And this is now not a fringe opinion, right? Like we've talked about how abolishing ICE has become a mainstream opinion within the Democratic Party. And even the unfavorables of ICE creep into the when you poll independence,

how disgusted they were after the Minneapolis surge and the killings of Preti and good that were so high profile and resulted in the aforementioned firings of Christie Nome. But Mark Wayne Mullen has come in essentially with a mandate to do the same stuff, reducing their deportation quotas by a slightly less astronomical figure and doing it more quietly. All they've done is put a fresh coat of white paint on this. Meet the new bus, same as the old boss. Right. And so this is actually encouraging to see.

This is Joe Scarborough here reacting to the ICE murderer of Lorenzo Salgado Arroyo. And I think speaking for a kind of, as I say, a very mainstream opinion right now about immigration enforcement. You're gunning down people in the streets of America. Gunning down people in the streets of America. This is not going well. No, traumatizes and terrorizes communities. And politically, it's horrible for you. And yet you just continue.

And as we have said here from the very beginning, you will never get the numbers that you want to get. that this this is politically not sustainable when you just go out and you put these random

numbers out there telling ICE agents you have to go out and you've got to get these numbers or else you're going to get in trouble you won't be able

to keep your job that's not sustainable because you will never reach those numbers you need to go to a plan B or a plan C because this

ends in tragedy every time what do you mean by don't tread on me. Isn't the time to say don't tread on me when Americans and other people who've been here for 30, 35 years

are getting gunned down in the streets by federal troops and if I could just add for those who are usually if you're a migrant, if you're documented, if you're undocumented, if you're gunned down in the

streets of America, it's still wrong and it's still a crime. Yeah. Can I just make one quick point about this? About Joe Scarborough being unable to stop talking over his wife and be such a toxic male, but if I keep going. The early point he made about the numbers, those numbers aren't just bad because they're implausible and impractical. They're bad because they are a white supremacist fever dream about how many people we can deport. This is the Department of Homeland Security posting this image.

I forget what the artist is. but America after 100 million deportations, 100 million, that is a Nazi-style number. But even when J.D. Vance, air to Trump probably, presumptive error anyway, saying 30 million. This is about deporting even people

who are already citizens. This is white supremacist stuff. The 100 million figure, when they use that, they mean every Latino American. Every single Latino, every single person. Exactly.

Those are the figures that they're talking about. The 30-miller whatever is like basically anybody who isn't a full American citizen. Or who has been naturalized. or who has been naturalized. It is a stripping citizenship, I believe that number.

Exactly, exactly. This is about an ethnic cleansing campaign. And when we talk about them as a Gestapo, what else should we refer to a secret police that's trying to implement an ethnic cleansing campaign on behalf of a fascist administration? What else should we call them if not Gestapo? Unmarked cars going around with surveillance technology,

just running people's plates through it and saying, okay, let's go draw our gun. guys. And I shouldn't say it's overwhelmingly Latino people, but of course you have Somalis who are going to be the target of this. Syrians who are going to be the target of this. You've had all sorts. Literally all sorts. There's like an Irish guy early on that got caught up in this for like, I don't know if it was weeks, but like a long time. Haitian people have been the subject of these racist conspiracy theories. Dehumanization by the vice president. So this is white supremacy. This is white supremacy. This is white supremacy. In a

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I'm doing all right. It's been quite a week for us both, I would say, and also just in terms of covering progressive politics and anti-establishment politics. Let's just, we'll start off in the most controversial. place here because as I've said to you before, you're one of my favorite people to disagree with because it can always be even-handed and in good faith. But just to catch people up, earlier this week, you reported that there'd been a detail that had been left out of Politico's reporting on the rape accusation against Graham Platner. Politico didn't include, apparently,

that the woman accusing Plattner of this assault had asked him to come over for a glute massage the night of the alleged assault and however sorry what did you say? Said she needed a glute massage but not to ask him for it is my recollection. Yeah and afterwards she still said

do not come over and you have faced some pushback for reporting this detail and I guess I'm wondering what you think of that pushback because my this is what I would say right? Like we often will say on our show that

It's as important, like the substance of what we say is sometimes even less important than what we choose to highlight or cover, right? And I think that perhaps emphasizing this detail gave a lot of people licensed to dismiss Jenny's accusation, even if that's not in what the text said. That would be my critique. And I'm wondering what you think of that. Yeah, I don't think anyone seriously argues with the general idea that if we're going to try, a very serious allegation in the court of public opinion that the information that the media has about that should be public. Like, I think, I don't generally think that anybody really disagrees with that.

And I think it's important to understand exactly how Politico reported this at the time. So I have it in front of me here. They wrote, that night in late 2021, she said she had exchanged text messages with him and told him not to come over, saying she wasn't in the mood for company. later that evening she said she realized when she heard a sound on the stairs that he had let himself into her house so the way that politico presents it they were texting she says don't come over and then there's effectively a break in like that's kind of the impression that you're left with here the door is unlocked but like if you don't have permission to come in the house like you can't

you can't just come in an unlocked house it's not how it works political was aware that the exchange that they're referencing there included her saying she needed a glute massage, him responding, I'm on my way over, and then she responds, I'm not, you know, don't come, I'm not in the mood for company. We don't know whether or not he got that message or he was just, you know, drunkenly driving over to her house. There are a lot of people who absolutely do not care about that detail and don't think it's relevant and are okay with that. it not being included. There are also many, many people who think that that detail is relevant for his state of mind and particularly whether or not the implication of a break-in is accurate,

which then shapes some of the rest of it. And what I would say to the people who don't think it's relevant, that's fine. I would include myself in that camp. So, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, you don't think it's relevant. That's totally fine. We live in a democracy where the entire public is involved in the deliberation of these questions. And so there are many people who do think it's relevant. Like, is it relevant that he was drunk? Like, but what, but disqualifying piece is the, is the rape accusation, not the break in, right? So I guess perhaps this absolves him of the break in, but, but, but wouldn't her saying still, you know, protesting and saying that it was not consensual?

Absolutely. Obviously, if she said, and I thought this was more obvious, apparently that it is, If you say, I need a massage, let's say you say come over and give me a massage, and he tries to turn the massage into something more than that, and she says no, and he pushes past it, it's obviously still rape. Like there's zero question about that. But this kind of insistence that the facts aren't really important because of what she says happened in the end, I don't believe.

As a journalist, our job is to put the facts out that we have and then let the public decide whether or not those are relevant. Now, some people said, whoa, why don't you put in like what she was wearing? No, that is, that is completely different. Like we are talking about people, two people who had been dating on and off for two years at this point. The nature of the text message exchanges that they had

that led him to come over is relevant to some people. Doesn't have to be relevant to everybody to be included, just some people. And I really don't actually think this is a controversial. I understand why it's so sensitive, you know, particularly, you know, we live in a world where in any country where sexual assault is just rampant. So many people reading the story have themselves experienced sexual assault and are experiencing it both through the political lens, but also then through their, the prism of their own experience. So I understand why it's

this sensitive for so many people. At the same time, the idea that Politico, can have this information and decide on their own not to include it because they're worried about, let's be honest about why they didn't include it. They're worried about what some readers might take from it. That's not Politico's place. That's my thing. I mean, so then it's a media critique is, is, is, right. Well, then, but, but, but then if it's, if it is a media critique, then how, what is the intention of that critique in this moment? Like, do you see how it can serve a secondary, if that purpose that actually might be outsized

where it causes a large section of less media literate people to disparage this accuser and not take it seriously? Just because they're not going to maybe look into the details and just they're going to take away from it that the reporting was faulty because you have this critique that is much more narrow than what the takeaway is going to be. I mean, that's the responsibility piece. I've actually said repeatedly that the fact that Jenny was willing to share this detail with the Washington Post, I believe with CNN, which didn't include it, and with Politico, Washington Post did include it to their great credit. Nobody read their story because it was, they took more time with it, apparently. The fact that Jenny included this detail to me strengthens the credibility of her version of events. It shows a level of confidence in her rendition to share all of it. For Politico then to decide on its own, I don't think people can handle this because

it will, that's not what we're going for in this article, is just wrong. And like I understand that like people are going to be like livid at me for like putting the reporting out there. But like that's, it's not up to. And also we shouldn't just because people are going to be livid at. status? Like, that's not a reason to, like, not report something. No, I, I, I'm in agreement with you there. I think, you know, it's just a question, uh, perhaps of timing and, uh, you know, a question of like, like, where do you place

reporting in the narrative construction? Like, is timing and emphasis as important as the granular nature of the details? Like, I, I think it is. My, I mean, my view is completely different than how the world operates when it comes to these questions. Like, I think there should be, I think the public should take more time than it does with these allegations. Like, to have an article come out and then within basically an hour of that article coming out, the decision to have been rendered, I think doesn't do just. justice to anybody. But that's not the world we have.

Like, the world we have is article, wow, this is awful. Done. Like, this is over. I don't want to hear anything else about it. And if you tell me anything else about it, you are justifying what happened. I just don't believe that. I don't think that's how, like, knowledge creation should exist. I don't think that's how public trials of people should unfold.

I am in the deep minority on the left on this. I understand. Well, I'm in the deep, loud minority on this. I think among the public in general, the two scenarios are different. One scenario being the exchange text message she said, don't come over, came over anyway, is different than two people had been dating for two years. Exchange messages about a glute massage. Oh, I'm coming over.

Actually, I don't want company. Don't come over. Like those are different. Those are different scenarios. And the public has a right to the actual scenario. Yes. And then most of them will look, I think, at that actual scenario and say he's still guilty. And I still want him gone.

So that's the other thing that's so striking to me about this. But was that the takeaway from your audience? Or did they take away more that it was a hit piece? Like, you know. Most, well, I think a lot of people believe that. Like you say it strengthens her claim, but I haven't seen that be the reaction to what the reporting is. It seems like people are taking that as a way to dismiss it. No, no.

What you're seeing is that like within a minute of the article being published long before I did my own reporting, a huge portion of the public thought that this was a political pit job. Like, period. Like a huge portion in particular in D.C. said, this is damning he needs to go. A huge number of people do not have trust. in our institutions and believed that this was an engineered, orchestrated hit job. That's what you're seeing. And so for those people, they may also pick up on what we reported and circulate that. But that is like that is an authentic kind of reaction that a lot of people have had.

And in Maine, yes. Right. And in Maine, it's not represented at all in the media. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Yeah, and I think, you know, we're, we can move on to the less, you know, granular media-focused part of the story and maybe talk more about the political fallout here because the reality is that Platteners branding as a, like an outsider, right? And the other pieces that had come out against him prior to this about the tattoo and about the unsettling behavior had, you know, contributed to an outsider status that had benefited him with Maine voters because of a justified mistrust of the National Democratic Party that has consistently let them down. And what I find

kind of aggravating about this story is that there is this driving impulse by the national press to disregard what Maine voters actually care about or either or mischaracterize it in general. You know, I did an interview with Slate where the host of the interview was insisting that voters in Maine just voted for what she said was a guy and not his platform. And that is a motive. There's this motivated reasoning right now in the national press to foreclose any conversation about the ideological and policy civil war within the Democratic Party right now. to essentially say that anybody that was highlighting how Platner was gaining popularity because he wants to cut off arms to Israel and tax billionaires, etc., shouldn't have any credibility anymore to say anything about this at all. And that's the critique of other media figures from national mainstream centrist press. But the problem is that they're not talking about the voters who supported that, or they're saying that they are basically dumb hogs that didn't know what they want.

and just got hypnotized by his voice and the fact that he was an oyster farmer. There's all of these different conversations that are happening at the same time that still are drip with condescension about main voters saying like this is about representation, democratic representation. And it's an issue set that we voted on, not a celebrity. And liberals in the national press can't conceive of this. Right. It's an incredible level of contempt to have for the voters in Maine who came out. And what's interesting is that, yes, it's true that he looks different than a typical politician, like a Jordan Wood or somebody who's running for Senate up there. But he also doesn't, you wouldn't be able to pick him out of a bar in Maine. Like he looks like everybody else in Maine. So like there's this, there's this Washington and New York idea that like there's something like unicorn about this guy. when actually just looks like everybody else up there.

And what's so what was so unusual, I guess, is that somebody like that could then be so captivating for so many people in Maine. You know, there's a story about how right after he launched his campaign, he had already been booked to Shuck Oysters at Troy Jackson's, at a Troy Jackson campaign event. And so Troy, you know, gives his, gives his speech and he says something like, you know, actually our oyster shucker over here, like just today or yesterday, you know, filed his paperwork. He's going to run for the United States Senate and it's almost kind of like a joke.

Like what a, I mean, like, oh, you're serious. Like he got this oyster guy over here actually running. And Troy's like, yeah, Graham, you want to say a few things? And Graham takes the, takes the mic and leaves the audience absolutely spellbound, like completely overshadows Troy Jackson, who is very interesting politician with a profoundly working class background, not a great speaker. Like, Troy Jackson would not claim to be a great speaker. And the people there are just like our reporter was at this event.

They're like, who is this guy? Where did he come from? And so there's this idea that he was like manufactured by these like out of state consultants. And it's true that like he was recruited by some out of state consultants, but also deeply with the collaboration of the labor unions in Maine, which gets completely overlooked. But he also had this unique ability to captivate people's attention and convince them that he was going to actually deliver on the things that he was saying. Because it's one thing to say things.

It's another thing to be able to convince people that you mean it and that you're trying to bring them in. And so, like, yeah, that's what people were getting behind, not this like, like, oh, was wearing a flannel and had a deep voice. That's such a condescending. Yes. Understanding of how things unfolded. And it's just not accurate.

People are actually on the lookout for that kind of thing. And if you, and if you're not authentic to it, it's, it's going to fall flat. Yeah. And I, that's the same condescension that caused them to continuously put up losing candidates against Susan Collins every time. including Schumer and Jillibrand clearing the field for a nearly 80-year-old centrist who could not generate any enthusiasm. And so, like, you know, when we're looking at right now what happens next in Maine, this is obviously a very messy situation, not ideal, but by July 27th, there's going to be 600 delegates that are selected at this nominating convention.

and they're going to be selecting a candidate that best represents, hopefully, Graham Platner's platform, not his personal character, but what he stood for and what main voter said would best represent their interests. So you mentioned Troy Jackson here, and I want to play his launch video, his campaign ad for Senate, because he's a really interesting candidate. But also in just returning to Jenny Rassico and her accusations against Platner, part of why she says she hesitated to come out and tell her story about her sexual assault was because she agreed with him politically and didn't want them to hurt his candidacy.

So it's not just about honoring main voters in my view and what they wanted from Graham's platform in selecting a candidate that is as representative of those interests as possible. But it's also honoring her sacrifice of coming out and saying her story publicly when she knew that it would be damaging, but she felt that she needed to say it. It's just another way to think about it here as well. But here is Troy Jackson's Senate campaign launch. And I'm wondering, Ryan, if you could weigh in after we watch this about what kind of candidate he is

and how the Plattenor campaign infrastructure is trying to coalesce around him. Hey, everyone. It's Troy Jackson. Right now, there's a powerful movement of working class people in the state of Maine. And we're sick and tired of getting screwed and struggling to get by while greedy corporations get more and more. To all of you that have put your work, your dedication, and you're hoping to this movement, I know you're hurting.

I know it because I understand that. And I want you to know that your efforts aren't for nothing. Your voice matters, your time matters, you matter. Together, we can fix what's broken in Washington. We can pass Medicare for all. We can take on corporate power and the politicians in their pocket. We can take our country back. We can create the future Mainers and Americans deserve.

I've been fighting this fight for 30 years, and I'm sure as hell not backing down now. I'm a Maynard, a dad, a fifth generation logger from Alligash. I'm a progressive, I've been tested. I've won time and time again in deep red Trump country by double digits. I've won in progressive cities like Portland and Bangor. I know what a tough fight looks like and I know how to win. Because working people know I have their backs. They know me.

They know my values and they know my kids. know my character. We can defeat Susan Collins. The movement that you've built can win. So I'm in. I'm in this fight with you. And I'm asking you for your support so we can take back the Senate seat and send Susan Collins packing once and for all. So there you have it. Troy has also said Israel's actions are genocide in Gaza. great piece people who can check out his substack breaking down and and ranking essentially the candidates to replace platform and he had Jackson first. Here's what Troy said last night talking about the Palestinian aid worker who organized the World Cup watch party in Gaza and how Israel killed them before they were gathering to watch the Egypt-Argentina game in a targeted strike.

He said this is unconscionable. Anybody with eyes and a heart knows the Israeli government is committing genocide in Gaza, it has to end, and we as Americans have the power to end it. When I'm in the U.S. Senate, I'll never vote in favor of U.S. taxpayer-funded military aid to Israel. So there you go. And, yeah, I mean, he's from really far up north. He has been close to the Bernie wing of the party for a long time and labor. The questions more are about his candidacy. Does he have a lot of charisma?

A lot of people say no. and then also like does he have the ability to win outside of the areas in northern Maine where he traditionally had strengths electorally those are the questions that remain yeah and he you know he's he's an interesting guy um and he's like you can argue all day back and forth about the complicated nature of grand platiners working class credentials there's no argument with Troy Jackson he was his mom was 16 when he was born you know four generations above him and logging he gets into logging he went to community college and then immediately you know becomes a logger and the way he became politicized is also interesting ironically you could characterize it i'm only half joking as

anti-immigrant uh because there was this uh labor dispute between main loggers and canadian loggers and the main loggers were saying that canada was um was ignoring all sorts of immigration laws and labor laws and suppressing wages for Canadian loggers and then taking jobs from Maine loggers. They filed 100 plus complaints over this and even got involved with civil disobedience because it was existential to their their entire way of life up there in Northern Maine. He then, as he's fighting this battle, runs as a Republican because this is the type of working class area in the 90s that was represented by these you wouldn't call them dixiecrats because they're all the way up in northern Maine but like these blue dog blue dog democrats who just

held a corrupt lock on power for decades he barely lost two years later he runs as an independent and beats the democrat eventually he converts and becomes a democrat himself one thing he's he gets hit for is that he's had some traditional working class conservative values. He was anti-abortion. There's some other kind of cultural issues where he's been, where he's been, you know, Republican, basically. He, for the last 10, 15 years, he's had a perfect Planned Parenthood rating. He has, he said he was wrong on that. He's, you know, he's come around on a lot of those issues. But, you know, he's a very, he's a very interesting candidate. And he is the one that the Platner volunteers are are getting behind like they're they're going to try to organize at these caucuses or these county events to try to get their delegates sent to the

state convention to nominate Troy Jackson as you see that like he's clearly not saying this he's not he's not he's not grand platner right but he but he and he and he and We're running as a ticket basically together. And what the volunteers want is very relevant here. It's really important. And there's right now, there's a lot of people that are like, why is Platner not immediately dropping out? There are reasons for it.

One, there's a campaign finance reason for it. It gives the campaign more time to settle their debts that they need to do before foreclosing the campaign, essentially. but two, they want the campaign infrastructure leverage to push Troy Jackson. And that's what they're trying to use. So a lot of, again, people in the national press are talking about how unseemly this is, that he's not formally dropped out yet. It's happening.

This is just about trying to set up the campaign infrastructure and the ideas in the best, most advantageous position ahead of a convention where it's going to be, a lot of chicanery, I would guess, about like trying to get in a corporate pro-Apaq stuge centrist that doesn't want to abolish the filibuster. So it's essentially just like Susan Collins, but with a Democrat next to their name. Like they're going to try that even though I think it's going to be more difficult because there are people like Joy Reid, who we played yesterday on the national stage or our show saying like, no, you've got to represent the will of the voters.

Don't try this now. But I guess I'm wondering what. your kind of more meta take is on the attempt to go after the like campaign in this way, the campaign of Grand Platner. Like it's, you don't hear read all these news articles about the consultants that helped Eric Swalwell and how they need to never work again. Right. They work for Bacera now.

Yeah, right. But you do hear this now about Morris Katz and the Democrats that have worked on, Democratic consultants that have worked on this campaign. And it really does feel like they're trying to use this moment to create a proxy war on the emerging left-wing infrastructure and the very few, this new tiny, tiny constituency of consultants that helped work on the Mamdani campaign or now on Plathar or on others, right? Like these small little leftist ad makers and firms that are a threat to the way that the behemoth Democratic Party consultant structure. operates. Just your take on how like the knives are out for the consultants on the campaign in a way that seems very different than how other campaigns have been covered when their candidates are accused of sexual assault. It shows how cynical the establishment's approach to sexual assault is. Like it didn't stop them for a second to even get behind Cuomo himself, let alone all of Cuomo's consultants. Like in every other case where somebody has been credibly accused of sexual assault, there's never been a moment where the consultants who elevated the candidate were somehow found to be themselves guilty and needed to be black lizard and politics.

It's because they're taking on the machine. It's very clear. They're going after Dan Osborne now in Nebraska because some of the same consultants that work for Platner have also worked. work for Osborne. And so literally they're trying to like tie Osborne to it, like as if Osborne has anything to do with what Platner did. Abdel Al-Sahed, too. Adela-Saiyad, like saying, you know, he could be next. Yeah.

Like she has some convoluted explanation for what she meant by that, right? That isn't that she's suggesting that he's a, he's a predator and a rapist, but it like makes no sense. they they want to purge like the party of the people that are beating them in elections and they want to do it in as undemocratic a way as they possibly can just to just to say you're out we're purging you're gone yeah that's what democratic voters said after 2024 we want more smoke filled rooms right we want more we want less internal democracy in more smoke filled rooms and yeah It's really reminiscent to me of the way, you know, the Labor Corbyn playbook. Like they are seeing that the left is having success within the party. And I don't think it's a coincidence that there was reporting in late 2024 after Labor won those elections and now has completely collapsed, by the way, that they were talking to the Kamala Harris campaign about strategy. Like, I would not be shocked if the Democratic Party.

infrastructure is talking to these same firms and using a playbook to try to, you know, remove the emerging left-wing insurgency from the party by hooker by crook. And this Platner, you know, fiasco is a really convenient way for them to do that after DSA was racking up wins all of June. Right. And, right. And August is, you know, July. has Kai Newkirk, who is now facing these, like, completely unspecified allegations that apparently

stem from this 2019 article that's been retracted. And so he's up July 21st in Arizona against a new business-friendly Democrat. And then you've got the August primaries in Missouri, you know, you got Cory Bush. You've got a whole bunch in Michigan, you know, El-Sai, but also, you know, several, you know, Will Lawrence, Bloomquist, Donovan McKinney, all running insurgent campaigns in Michigan. So they're looking at a, you know, serious wave, and they're thinking, like, we need to just kind of destroy the infrastructure underneath this. And it'll be interesting to see if it's possible, because they're not doing anything to moderate the structural forces that have produced all the anger that is powering these candidates.

It's like I'm sure fight agencies, ads are really nice and well done, but it's not like they can manufacture an entire movement, you know, with just the way that they color their ads. But that's what they think of voters, though. Like, isn't that instructive? This is what they think of voters. I mean, and voter, the main voters, they don't, they think that essentially they're easily manipulated outside of the substance of policy. And like, I don't, in a, in a previous environment when we were covering politics, this might have worked when there wasn't this like more robust small donor network and there wasn't this like broad constituent and voter understanding about how money is corrupting that like gives credibility to candidates that aren't taking that kind of money. And frankly, if our media institutions still had the relevance that they used to, this would, they would have been able to kill Platte. partner's campaign much more early on, honestly. And they're lashing out because they were unable to do so,

even though, let's be abundantly clear, Platner, due to his deception and his lack of forthrightness at the very minimum. And then, of course, I would say this really credible allegation of rape has given them immense ammunition. Right. Yes. And so, all right, well, we've talked about this story enough, I think. Just briefly before I let you go, Ryan, I want to talk about the Iran war because Trump is retreating once again and saying that they're resuming talks after calling the Iranian negotiators scum. Three weeks prior to that, he had talked about how great they are. And, you know, I also last night, CNN reported that Israel shared intelligence, wink, wink, wink, wink, with the United States that Iran. is trying to assassinate Donald Trump.

What do you make of these developments over the past 48 hours or so? The problem with Trump is that the problem for Trump and with Trump is that he exhausted his military capacity already. Like, if he was able to militarily take control of the Strait of Hormuz and overthrow the regime or dictate terms to the regime,

he would have done it already. When they launched this war, they had, you know, they had exhausted some of their stock in the 12-day war, but they had pretty much a full magazine of, you know, two aircraft carrier groups, all of, you know, all of the tomahawks that they had. They were stocked and ready to go. They threw everything they had at Iran,

and they used an enormous amount of what they had when it came to defensive capacity, ballistic missile interceptors and so forth. we reported it at dropside at the end of the war Israel was down to double digit interceptors ballistic missile interceptors and they were relying almost exclusively on the U.S. Navy to intercept ballistic missiles coming in from Iran

and Iran had not yet moved to its hypersonic and most recent weapons because you shoot the oldest ones first. So that's what the U.S. and Israel got when they were fully loaded up. And companies across the world had their inventories, their oil inventories stocked up. Our strategic petroleum reserve was stocked up. And, you know, gas was at $3 a gallon or whatever.

Like, that's where we started. But the idea that he's going to come back for a third round with gas starting at $4, with inventories completely depleted. with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve something like 19 million barrels away from the bottom, like where it becomes like dysfunctional and you don't have a reserve anymore. And you've fired off tons of your tomahawks, tons of your other missile. One of your aircraft carriers had to go back because the undies caught on fire. Your other aircraft carrier group had to move out of ballistic missile range of the Iranians.

And so therefore can't launch. the short-range stuff has to rely on the very expensive heavy-range missiles. Like the idea that in that scenario, you're going to be able to accomplish what you couldn't in the last one is so obviously untrue that you knew that when Trump started this that he was going to have to stop pretty soon. And so that's what he's done. So he has to either give up the straight of Hormuz or conquer Iran. He can't conquer Iran. He can't bring himself to give up the straight of Hormuz. So he's stuck.

And he's lashing out and using, I think, probably escalating rhetoric like scum to give a public perception of victory, which like, say, you know, Iran right now is, I think, within their rights to want to make the West feel pain after Trump launched this war. But if they humiliate the United States, this might prolong it because Trump really only cares about the appeal. of a victory here. And so I think, you know, them exerting their leverage is important. But there also is the question of Lebanon as well. And Israel has shown no desire to acquiesce and remove their forces from southern Lebanon, which Iran is holding firm. And their position continues to get strengthened as this goes on and the United States

becomes more and more desperate, that Lebanon and the cessation of hostilities there need to be included in any memorandum of understanding that is renewed or in any peace process. Yeah, and I think a thing you can add to it is the psychological effect for Trump of seeing the millions of people in the streets mourning the man that he assassinated and was told was deeply unpopular and is dumb enough to believe what he's told that he certainly he was unpopular, a lot of people didn't like him. A lot of people also loved him. There are millions that came out on the streets in Iraq, millions, not just Iran, Iraq, too. And so I think he saw that too, and that that was deeply souring his mood. I feel like he sort of had to get this out of his system.

If you noticed, they hit the train lines going to and from Mashag, where the Ayatollah was being buried so that all of the mourners are then either attacked or deeply inconvenienced in having to like get home. So like the pettiness right of that divorced from any plausible military rationale because you can put like if they're hitting the bridge like okay that it's going to have an economic impact and the economic impact means that you can't produce as many weapons I guess blah like but hitting the just the tracks within 24 hours they've got the tracks put back together so you're only doing it because you're a baby and and you're salty that people are millions of people are out

in the street right and i mean it because but it returns to his fixation on the optics of like and it's a war crime just to be clear yes and the attacks on civilian infrastructure that he's he's bragging about right our war crimes and we still don't know the true death toll uh but but let's just recap some of the stated objectives. Regime change. They can't spin that. Netanyahu can't even spend that domestically within an Israeli public that they've actually done regime change because it's still the same regime. It's just not with the older figurehead who.

And then, of course, the regime change would have been, the necessary component of that would have had to be mass unpopularity about this leader. And Trump is seeing these images showing that that's actually not the case. then the nuclear weapons issue. Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. Trump is saying a lot that part publicly because that's clearly the most fertile ground for negotiations here,

but then also control over the Strait of Hormuz. Iran now probably has this understanding like we can give a lot of leeway on the nuclear issue here because we now have demonstrated our capability to use our territorial leverage, to control the Strait of Hormuz. And I think is what is Trump fixated on the fact that they're going to keep trying,

that they're enforcing that by attacking those ships after they were warned not to go into those waters and to that like tolls are a very likely option or very likely outcome here. Yeah. If Iran will probably wait to transition the tolls in. But what they're trying to do now is establish just institutional. the structures by which the ships transit. So, say, like, you got to go through our straight authority, whether you're going through Oman or whether you're going through, you know,

the South or whether they're going through the North. We're going to work with Oman. Nobody's going through with their transponders off, not going through the system. It's free now, but you have to register with us. And they don't want to register because they don't want to institutionalize the, you know, like you said, control of the Strait of Hermuz. But then you should have won the war.

Like, you're like at this point. Right. They run it. And if you don't like that, you can fight them, but you can't fight them. So they run it. Like that's, I don't know what to tell you. Like, it was open before the war. And you should have listened to Emma and not go to war.

Yeah. Right. Right. Well, I like that sentiment. But, I mean, yeah, no, it's, it's, you lost. That's the problem. And, and I think, you know, that's a, very difficult pill for him to swallow.

What did you say, Matt? Oh. Impossible for him. Impossible for him. How much we've spent on the military for the last, I mean, century. Yeah, exactly right. Well, Ryan... The military keeps coming back for supplementals for every war. It's like, couldn't the military budget include war costs?

Especially as... Right. It increases every year, and now Trump was asking initially for $1.5 trillion. And when they go to war and Iran, they're like, oh, we need an extra. 150 billion for that war. It's like, wait a minute, what is the trillion dollars by us if we can't even get a war out of it? The war is extra? We get to boost defense stocks. We get to boost defense stocks and make it and subsidize their enrichment. For a trillion dollars, you should get at least one war covered. Really? I think you're right. I think you're right. Yeah. It's a trillion dollars just to have the military. To use it, you have to pay extra. That's very American. I mean, I, for

on Ryan. I'm not sure why you're complaining about us potentially being thrown into a global recession because Trump wants to save face. You know, guess you don't care about America or something like that. Amazing. Ryan Grim, appreciate you coming on

today, journalist, co-host of Breaking Points, co-founder of Dropside News. Thanks so much for your time today, my friend. You got it. All right. With that, folks, we're going to wrap up the free part of this program. Head into the fun. of this program where we will actually have fun today.

I am very excited to make fun of this gubernatorial candidate in Colorado. That's got me in a good mood. Matt, what's happening on Left Reckoning with the Jacobin Show? Jackabin Show actually at 3 o'clock, so I will, actually, I probably have to leave for a little bit after two. But we have a live Jacobin show for the first time ever Griscom and I are going to be live on the Jacob and Meg YouTube channel, so go subscribe to that. All right, check it out.

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And I think, you know, some of our lessons here include, at least for me, going all the hell in on DSA for the rest of this cycle. And, you know, believing in that as a, you know, and its infrastructure as a way to kind of incubate and vet candidates and have accountability with your comrades and with the people that are in your chapter who understand your values, your placements. platform and can vet people and vouch for people who best represent those interests in a way to avoid certain situations like this. So go DSA. Check that out. Join the Majority Report.com if you'd like to support this show. Helps us stay resilient when we're on these third-party platforms. anything else folks or should I plug anything am I forgetting anything just coffee. Dot co-op fair trade coffee and one other thing that I forget I could just look this up before the show but I forget every single time um all right guys see you in the phone half

okay Emma please well I just I feel that my voice is sorely lacking in the majority report wait look example is unpopular I do deserve a vacant at Disney World. So ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show. It is Thursday. Yeah, I think you need to take over for Sam, but that's cool. I'm going to pause you right there. Wait, what? You can't encourage Emma to live like this.

And I'll tell you why. So it's offered a twerk, sushi, and poker with the boys. Boys, who was offered a twer? Yeah. Sushi and sushi. And that's what we call the biz. Tuer. I just think that what you did to Tim Poole was mean.

Free speech. That's not what we're about here. Look at how sad he's become now. You shouldn't even talk about it because I think you're responsible. I probably am in a certain way, but let's get to the meltdown here. Twir? Ugh. Sushi and poker with the boys.

Oh my God. Wow. Sushi. I'm sorry. I'm losing my fucking mind. Someone's offered a twir? Yeah. Sushi and poker with the voice.

Logic. Boy, boy, boy, twir. I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid. Add this debate seven thousand times. A little kid. A little kid. I think I'm like a little kid.

I think I'm like a just don't understand. So I'm not trying to be a dick right now, but like, I absolutely think the U.S. should be combining me with a wife and kids. That's not what we're talking about here. It's not a fun job. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. Willie Walker.

That's a real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. A real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing.

The way of the world on the shoulders. Hogger! It was so much easier. When the majority report was just you. You were happy. Let's change the subject. She's doing great. Now, shut up.

Don't want people saying reckless things on your program. That's one of the most difficult parts about this show. This is a pro-killing podcast. I'm thinking maybe it's kind of we bury the hatchet. Left is best. Trump. Violet twerk. Emma is cool.

He's a real. Incredible theme song. Eye Bumbler. Emma Viglin. Absolutely one of my favorite people. Actually, not just in the game. Like, period.