The Majority Report with Sam Seder - 3690 - Trump Wages War On Elections; AIPAC's Last Stand; Nolan Wells's Killing w/ Jamaal Bowman

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

It's Casual Friday on The Majority Report On today's program: Donald Trump gave a primetime speech to the nation to complain and spread more lies about the 2020 election. Clearly the plan is to underm...ine voters' confidence in elections in order to set up some shady hijinks in the coming midterms and beyond. Jamaal Bowman, former middle school principal and former U.S. representative, joins to recap the week. Topics include his forthcoming memoir, midterm elections, AIPAC, ICE, Nolan Wells and more. Here is a link to preorder Jamaal's book. In The Fun Half: Markwayne Mullin holds a press conference to suck up to Trump and cry about networks not broadcasting the president's election denial. Stephen Miller tries to fearmonger about left-wing "terrorism" at an event called the Resurgence of Political Violence. Jesse Watters jokes about troops triple-dipping on testosterone and acting like wild animals and advises the women on base to be careful. Later in the same show, Jessica Tarlov mentions Drop Site News which gives Watters PTSD from Ryan Grim knocked him out at press dinner. All that and more. Tell your Senators to block the NDAA until it is stripped of the proposal to integrate U.S. and Israeli militaries. To connect and organize with your local ICE rapid response team visit ICERRT.com The Congress switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. You can use this number to connect with either the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives. Follow us on TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@majorityreportfm Check us out on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport Find our Rumble stream here: https://rumble.com/user/majorityreport Check out our alt YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/majorityreportlive Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the AM Quickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! https://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: https://majority.fm/app Go to https://JustCoffee.coop and use coupon code majority to get 10% off your purchase Check out today's sponsors: ONESKIN: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code MAJORITY at https://www.oneskin.co/majority SUNSET LAKE CBD: Use coupon code "Left Is Best" (all one word) for 20% off of your entire order at SunsetLakeCBD.com.  Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech On Instagram: @MrBryanVokey Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on YouTube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 That's coupon code left is best, all one word, for 20% off your entire order at sunsetlakesebade.com. And now time for the show. The majority. We are every day is casual Friday. That means Monday is casual Monday. Tuesday, casual Tuesday. Wednesday, casual hump day. Thursday, casual thurs.
Starting point is 00:03:19 That's what we call it. And Friday, casual Shabbat. The majority report with Sam Cedar. It is Friday. July 17th, 2026. My name is Emma Vigland in for Sam Cedar and this is the five-time award-winning majority report. We are broadcasting live
Starting point is 00:03:46 steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, USA. On the program today, Jamal Bowman, former middle school principal, former U.S. representative for New York's 16th district, his memoir unpolished is out in November, and he'll be with us in studio to recap the news of the week.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Also on the program, last night, Trump whined about the 2020 election in a primetime address. He claimed Chinese interference and cast out on our electoral system four months before the midterms. Trump calls to revoke ABC and NBC's broadcast licenses after most networks refused to air his election denial speech live
Starting point is 00:04:40 for fears of liability. DHS is now claiming to have found tens of thousands of non-citizens on voter rolls. A federal judge says that's not the case. They're also not presenting any evidence that they voted, which is kind of the issue at hand here. Still scary. Yeah. in a speech to a group of foreign diplomats.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Stephen Miller implores them to help the administration jail and debank left-wing terrorists in the United States. The U.S. escalates its war crimes in Iran, attacking civilian infrastructure and killing dozens of Iranians. The ex-wife of the ICE officer who killed a Colombian man in Maine says he had serious and had. As serious mental health issues, shouldn't have a gun, has an abusive past, and called her asking her to lie for him about this case.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So it seems like a stand-up guy. Much of the U.S. continues to be under air quality warnings. Ontario reported a total of more than 180 active fires. Trump's teleprompter operator has been put on paid leave after making $100,000, allegedly on Kalshi bets on Trump's speeches. Lucky. Yeah, right, exactly. There's my taste.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Heads, I win, tells you lose. On a heater. House Republicans are signaling to Trump that the Iran Supplemental and Save Act could be in trouble. James Dolan's Madison Square Garden is suing wired over its reporting showing the venue kept a dad, the base of LGBTQ celebrities. Demonic man. And lastly, Representative Pramila Jayapal has introduced a bill that would
Starting point is 00:06:45 bar ice from separating families. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome to the show, everybody. It is casual Friday. Hello, Matt. Hello, Brian. Hello, hello audience. I'm excited to have Jamal
Starting point is 00:07:01 in studio to break down the news of week. We'll talk about the Democrats, over 100 Democrats breaking on Israel funding, his, you know, time in Congress, how he can reflect on that. We'll talk probably a bit about the Nolan Wells case, ICE, some of the primaries as well. But last night, Trump addressed the nation about the most pressing issue that we face, if people were fair to him in the 2020 election. I guess I shouldn't say it's the most impressive issue we face because we still have the reflecting pool to worry about. In the ballroom. Right. I would, yeah, ballroom is kind of tied for me here with, were people nice to Trump about losing to Biden? I'm sorry, I mean losing to Biden because
Starting point is 00:07:49 we now have apparently explosive diarrhea, I mean explosive intelligence from the administration, from the intelligence agencies that was cobbled together to craft this BS narrative that China interfered with the 2020 election. Yeah, so the speech last night was completely deranged.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Basically, Trump and the White House and the FBI and the other intelligence agencies have cobbled together a bunch of random intelligence to claim that China had an influence operation in the 2020 election, and also that Venezuela has the capability to manipulate electronic voting
Starting point is 00:08:38 systems, but only in Venezuela and not in the United States is what the assessment concluded. We're surrounded. Like, that's the best they can do. And I will remind people that in June, right before Tulsi Gabbard resigned as the Director of National Intelligence, the White House delayed the release of a report that her office had commissioned on the voting machines. It seems like she was unable to find anything, then was ousted. And then a month later, what do you know?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Now that Trump has the acting director of national intelligence, who is a real estate buddy of his from Florida, they're able to find all of this evidence and intelligence that Trump claims supports his conspiracy theories about the election. And what's amazing is that this was the best they can do. And what you're about to see is that it doesn't even support that. And I would just give some broader context for people who don't remember, like, five years or plus a little over half decade ago that Trump himself called Raffensberger. I forget what his first name is down in Georgia and said, what I want to do is I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. these are people who have actually tried to do election fraud in front of all of our faces and we have objective proof of it
Starting point is 00:10:04 and and the intelligence that he's sharing right none of this is verified intelligence this is the equivalent of theirs which shocker the right wing also fell for it which is the vaccine adverse event reporting system and it's basically just people submitting tips and saying this impacted me i'm feeling this and like it's there's no verification if it's credible or not. It's like a tip line. So what's happening right now is Trump and the FBI are declassifying material from information gathering and claiming that it's been covered up, but and releasing just the little pieces of information that fit their narrative. And but one, let's remind people, Trump was in power when this was happening. So he has to go an extra step of claiming that the people that he appointed in his first term were a part of the deep state cover-up subverting him.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Traders. And everyone knows he's lying to this point and we're all supposed to entertain these delusions because, as I mentioned, many cable news networks refused to air this live because they remembered what happened to Fox News when they peddled the election denial stuff. Dominion sued them for a bunch, a bunch of money and won. So, or they settled for a lot of money. So here's Trump last night claiming that China tried to undermine the 2020 election by making him look bad. And then also then says that China paid journalists to write negative stories about him, which he does not substantiate at all.
Starting point is 00:11:39 As the documents we are releasing show, CIA reporting explicitly stated, and I quote, in mid-2018, the Chinese Communist Party's policy, was to leverage all domestic and foreign elements that were opposed to the U.S. president in an effort to reduce the U.S. president's votes and make him resign or prevent his re-election. Isn't that nice? Also, in mid-2018, China was working to influence the results of the U.S. mid-term elections
Starting point is 00:12:12 and later the results of the 2020 presidential election itself. Separately in mid-2019, the Chinese government. government strategy against the United States was focused on undermining domestic confidence in the U.S. president. They wanted to just make you sound like your president wasn't so hot
Starting point is 00:12:33 when actually your president has done a great job. Sorry, can we just get this wind up again? And I'll also just add my ex-wife is getting paid by the Chinese government. J.D. Vance was literally flying on government taxpayer-funded planes to go over to Hungary to
Starting point is 00:12:50 support a candidate that then lost. Exactly. I mean, this crying about, like, they didn't want me to win. Right. Bad things about me. I mean, it's like, and everyone in the country is talking about Israel's influence over our elections, and yet we're talking about the record spending. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:09 All right. Let's just finish a little bit more of this. The United States was focused on undermining domestic confidence in the U.S. president. They wanted to just make you sound. Like your president wasn't so hot. But actually, your president has done a great job. And they did everything possible to do exactly that.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Okay. All right. So, you know, we talk about the, he talks about the Russia hoax all the time. Look, Russia's influence did try to influence with an information, disinformation campaign, the 2016 election. But that was the extent of it. It was overstated in many ways by liberals. This doesn't even come close to the level of Russia's interference in 20,
Starting point is 00:13:50 2016 what we're talking about here. But they wanted to make me look not so hot. Trump is lying also about the assessment made about the election. There's a report that came out put together by Trump's now CIA director, but at the time he was at DNI, John Ratcliffe. They made an assessment about this. And they found that China did not deploy, I'm reading from this article on here that quotes it,
Starting point is 00:14:17 did not deploy interference efforts and considered, but did not deploy influence efforts intended to change the outcome of the U.S. presidential election. So, like, it said that they did not interfere, but that they entertained it at a high level, essentially. Yeah, MS now intelligence assessment is from a couple of days ago, including those complied by the intelligence community in the final term. Draw a clear distinction between influence and interference by foreign actors. Intelligence officials determine that influence campaigns happen in 2020,
Starting point is 00:14:45 including social media activity by their, run in China aimed at weakening Trump and by Russia aimed at denigrating then candidate Joe Biden, but officials concluded that China did not interfere a term defined as activity aimed at technically compromising voting systems and manipulating votes to affect the outcome. But have you heard about the burn bags? This is another thing that we're learning from this primetime address. Trump continues here with a new claim about bags of information that were, found that the Obama Obama Barack Hussein which don't worry he said.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Barack Hussein oh Obama. Yeah. I still. I stole that from somebody else. Burn bag, Barack tried tried to get rid of it. But they were too, they were too incompetent. So they found them. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So Obama, he knows, tried to burn the bags of documents, but was unsuccessful and Cash Patel uncovered it coincidentally. political. Recently, we found significant numbers of burn bags in formation, and this is a group of bags that were used to destroy information given by President Barack Hussein Obama. Ding, ding, ding. To be burned. It was supposed to be burned. These bags were supposed to be at a different level by different people incinerated and checked, but it never happened. Maybe we got lucky. We believe this was not done on purpose, but rather through
Starting point is 00:16:24 gross incompetence of the people that was supposed to burn the bag. But the findings are stunning. Today I'm asking the office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the CIA to investigate how and why such crucial information was hidden. Okay. So, now, Trump. is saying that he's directing the director of national intelligence to do that. As I mentioned, Tulsi Gabbard has been ousted. So Bill Pulte is the acting DNI. There's currently hearings on Capitol Hill about getting a permanent director of national intelligence. But Bill Pulte is the guy, as I say, who comes from the real estate housing background. He's not an intelligence analyst.
Starting point is 00:17:13 A bird bag expert. And when has this gone wrong? you know, in this last year or so, Trump putting real estate guys in, like, national security roles. I don't know. Like negotiate the end of wars or conflicts and stuff like that. Where has that gone wrong? So I don't know what he's talking about Obama and burn bags. Obama's time. You didn't burn them.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Why would Obama would be involved in this in the 2020 election? He'd been out of office for four years. Does he, his key card still worked? It's Agent Obama. Like, what am I even supposed to say to that? I'm trying to fact-check this in real time, but I'm not even sure how I can respond to such a- Well, it's tough because he was, like you say, president at the time of all this happening. And Joe Biden hadn't yet been president, so he can't blame him.
Starting point is 00:18:01 So it has to be Obama. It has to be Obama. All right. This is the final insane claim here. This is him saying that Venezuela did a big number on our elections, unclear what that means. and then claims they have the capacity to change vote totals. Democracy. Many people have questioned whether it could actually be possible
Starting point is 00:18:24 to electronically manipulate vote totals or change election results on these terrible machines. Today we are releasing documents that show the CIA obtained reporting of a specific plot to do a big number in favor of the corrupt Maduro regime in Venezuela, and that's exactly what happened, conspiring to digitally rig their own country's elections in 2020, and that's what they did. This reporting included precise details about methods to regime, develop, to digitally alter vote totals in ways that could not be detected even with an audit, no matter how deep they went. This intelligence,
Starting point is 00:19:13 underscores why we must take urgent action to ensure that our own system can never, ever be hacked or compromise. Okay. So, as I said earlier, even the documents that he releases here has nothing that indicates that Venezuela has the capacity to manipulate voting systems in the U.S. It doesn't even assess that Venezuela did it itself. It's that it has the capacity to do it. And this is within the context of Trump and the administration trying to force these democratic states to hand over their voter rolls.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And there have been like 14, 15 judges who have denied this request. And additionally also, the DHS is claiming now that they're reviewing all of these non-citizens on voter rolls with a figure that's much higher than is seen elsewhere. And a federal judge just ruled on this and said that this database that they're putting together has been classifying U.S. citizens as ineligible voters. They're just trying to juice the numbers to get it to a total where Trump thinks, like, mathematically, that means I definitely won in 2020, right? They're really, they're setting the groundwork. We can, it was an outrageous and ridiculous speech. But it is pretty horrifying, especially when you compare it with Stephen Miller's. speech yesterday to that group of foreign diplomats where he essentially said that they're going to push the prosecution of so-called left-wing terrorists.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Ken Clippenstein has been great in covering SPM-7, which is this directive that issues federal law enforcement to go after left-wing groups. They're going to try to tie China to the left in the U.S. and do a Red Scare McCarthyite-style purge. purge and attack on the left, whether it's both like left-wing organizations. I'm thinking about DSA, amongst others. I mean, they're right now going after the Code Pink, one of the Code Pink funders. Pro-Palestine activism is already underway, of course, but now, once again, like with the pro-Palestine activism, they will use some sort of national security justification, like in the Red Scare, to crack down on dissent domestically.
Starting point is 00:21:39 but unlike the Red Scare, this is post-9-11 America baby, and we have unchained, certain, or have fully funded, I should say, large swaths of our government under DHS to have this domestic Gestapo and attack on our civil liberties via a national security infrastructure
Starting point is 00:22:03 that is outside of our judiciary and judicial system in any meaningful way. So, yeah, it's kind of bad that the War on Terror created this infrastructure. The agency that thug worked for up in Maine, that got a budget bigger than the FBI's per year. And there's a reason why we don't want federal law enforcement at our polling places. My God. Like, this was an attempt to intimidate black voters in the Jim Crow South. And Stephen Miller and Trump look at that and go, yeah, like, that's what we're going to do now.
Starting point is 00:22:38 in the 21st century. So let's just be clear about who we're facing here. And any liberal that comes to you and says, turn the page on these people, they did this with Bush, they did it with Trump 1.0. If they do it with Trump 2.0, know that they don't care about leftists being rounded up and that they fundamentally sort of agree with this attack and targeting. And I would include Zionists in that. And if we don't take power and the Democrats don't respond in kind by prosecuting these criminals, those actions say that they don't have a sincerity about protecting their own constituents and leftists who are trying to organize for a better world. We will see where liberals fall on this, and I'm not that optimistic.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You know who was central in pushing the effort to expel Jan 6 Clubbaries? It was Cory Bush, who you can support in a race for Congress right now. Yes, go Corey. In a moment, we'll also be talking. Jamal and Bowman, maybe a bit about Corey Bush's race as well and all the other primaries across the country and the Trump administration, what's going on in Congress and more. But first, a word from one of our sponsors. I like to take care of my skin these days, especially in my 30s.
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Starting point is 00:26:29 Good to see you. Look at that. Seamless. We didn't even have to go to a break. going on that Jamal Bowman take over the majority report. Let's make it happen. You're in Sam's seat. How does it feel? Oh, it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It's incredible. Yeah. Sam, you know, extend the vacation. I know. I got you covered. Yes. You know, we're in Brooklyn. Yeah. New York City. Let's go. It's great to be with you, Emma. It's great to see you. It's great to see you, I should say, former middle school principal, former U.S. representative for New York
Starting point is 00:26:56 16th District. And your memoir Unpolished is out this November. I asked you, You're going to be spilling the tea in this memoir, right? Spilling all the tea. Yeah. Pulling back to the curtain, going behind the scenes, that you know all the shit I went through in 2024,
Starting point is 00:27:13 fighting against APEC. I had to tell a story. So I told the story from a Westchester County, New York perspective, from a Washington, House of Representatives, Democratic leadership perspective, and from the perspective of having 25 million spent against you on a daily basis and what you have to go through and what your family has to go. So I'll tell that story.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Tell the story of my first trip to Palestine in 2021. Tell the story about all the shit that happened behind the scenes with the infrastructure vote. Oh, my gosh. I mean, that's not. Oh, my God. I mean, just reflecting on that day and that week was crazy. So I tell all of that. And also tell a little story about my background, my childhood.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You know, people know I used to be a middle school principal, but they don't really know how I got there. So I'll tell that story as well. Tell a story about how we became the number one performing middle school in New York City. A lot of people don't know that. And then, like, how did this badass kid in New York City, like, who almost got himself killed three or four times, end up, like, in Congress fighting for all the things we were fighting for? So it's just a pretty cool story, and I think people will like it. Yeah, I'm excited to read it. I think also you bringing up A-PAC right off the rip is a good way for us to just talk about these primaries and what you've been seeing.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I mean, we're rooting for Cory Bush. We're going to have her on next week to cover her race. I am on my way to St. Louis right after this catching a flight to go out there and be with our sister on the ground. I mean, just talk about 2024. Before Massey was just ousted by A-PAC, you and Corey Bush's race. races had the most money ever spent in a congressional primary and it was A-PAC money. What was 2024 like for you? Did you know things, it was coming when you, when that spending was happening?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Like, did you anticipate how insane it would be? It was, it was like being dropped in to the middle of like a conflict zone. It was just like so much happening all at once. It was, you know, hate to bring this up, but it always comes up anyway. So for me, it was like fire alarm, October 7th. Yeah. And then like ceasefire resolution back to back to back. And then like primary race.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yes. So that was like in two months. You know what I'm saying? Like back to. So it was just being like being dropped into a war zone. And yeah, it was just like you just, if you're dropped in the middle, you know, there's a movie about Tom Cruise where it keeps going like in this circle back and forth. like, well, forget the movie, but like, you drop in the middle and it's like, you got to,
Starting point is 00:30:01 you got to just fight 360 around you against all these things coming at you. So yeah, it was, it was, it was crazy, man. And, yeah, daily attacks on every single media outlet. So you turn on YouTube attacks, you turn on Disney attacks, you turn on meta attacks, you turn on, you know, my daughter going on YouTube attacks, mailers in the house, channel two, channel four, all the broadcast media. It was everywhere. It was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And you couldn't, you know, it's one thing psychologically to think you're ready for it. And it's another thing to be like, okay, I got my record I could run on. But this was just like an bombardment of just money and attacks. And you can't respond to everything. And they drown out your ability to talk about your record. Just create a perception. He's controversial. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And it was just so overwhelming. Right. Now, the thing I remind people is redistricting really played a big part in this race also. So it wasn't just the money. It was 200,000 black people taken out of the district through redistricting. And I'll write about this as well because there's just a lot of questions as it related to the head of the redistricting commission was the deputy executive director to George Latimer. So he was incentivized. Who defeated you in that race and APAC was spending on the behalf of it.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Absolutely. So he was incentivized not to change the district that much back to, let's bring some of those black people back into the district. He was incentivized because once George Latimer won the race, now the next county executive was going to be Ken Jenkins, which is exactly what happened. Right, right. And he was appointed by the Senate majority leader of New York State. And these are all APEC supported people, right? And just going into the judge that made the final decision to kill the first maps, she went to high school with George Latimer, like all kind of crazy infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Right. That has been in place because special interests have been controlling the game for so long. So, yeah, it was just, it was just, it was a, a lot. Right. And I mean, the strength of that machine has weakened, but I remember it in 2020 in your race. I remember it in 2018 in AOC's
Starting point is 00:32:31 race and the dirty tricks that they were trying to pull on her in terms of ballot access, even getting on the ballot. I guess, so Corey's district hasn't changed at all, right? So this is also where, like, you can just have a straight up referendum in this race on APEC. And
Starting point is 00:32:47 I'm wondering if, you know, you have any thoughts on on the 103 Democrats who voted now in the House to block around $3 billion in arms sales to Israel. Not including George Latimer. Not including George Latimer or Wesley Bell. Or Hakeem Jeffries. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:07 So, and then also Haley Stevens, if we're talking about important primaries. But like, does that, what does it indicate to you? It's still not where the public opinion is in the Democratic base, which wants it just all. just cut off arms what the hell are we doing that's where the voters are at but does it give you hope that we're in a place right now where it was like a plurality with when you because there were 10 present votes of the caucus yeah no it gives me a tremendous amount of hope um and excitement about where we are i mean the progressive movement uh has incredible power in this moment and that power has been built over time like first of all shout out to the palestinian
Starting point is 00:33:51 scholars and organizers and activists who have been throwing body blows for decades before anybody knew who Jamal Bowman was. There's so many people behind the scenes and organizations like IMEU and organizations like Jewish Voices for Peace and so many others that have been throwing body blows behind the scenes before like I even thought about running for Congress, right? So shout to them. So they've been throwing these body blows and weaking in this monster. That is A-PAC and the Israel lobby.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And then 2018 comes, and you have the squad. They get in and you got Rashida gets in and Ilhan gets in. And Ilhan reminds us, it's all about the Benjamins. And you try to call the anti-Semitic. But then freaking how many years later, you spend $25 million in this race and that race. And so it is about the Benjamins, right? Yes. That was outrageous.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And Polarcy threw her under the bus. Who voted to block these arms sales? Right. And so going full circle, right? And so 2018, you have that. And then 2020, Corey and I come in. And then 2024, APEC has to now show itself to the public, right? So a lot of, like, lobbying behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:35:03 But then 2024, they were on the hill so much. They had to now reveal, okay, we're going to spend $100 million this primary to, like, bully and intimidate people. And so, yes, Corey and I took the L there, but the ceasefire movement was stronger than ever. a year later, Zoron's elected, right? In New York City. And then this year, you got Claire and Brad and Dari Elisa and Dr. Adam Hemaway and Anna Leah Maheah and Melaheer and Melaheiros. And people forget this one. In Dallas, replacing Jasmine Crockett, Dr. Reverend Frederick Haynes, the third, who I'm also going to see this weekend, got in as well, one his primary as well. And so, okay, you may have lost to Jamal Bowman, but Corey Bush is coming back and like
Starting point is 00:35:52 10 others are coming back. So I'm, and the American people are demanding enough. Enough is enough. We do not want our taxpayer money supporting genocide or apartheid or occupation or killing babies anywhere. We want to afford our housing. We want to afford our child care. We want to afford our utilities. We want to afford transportation. We want to afford education. If my child needs extra. If my child wants to take a gymnastics class, I want to be able to afford to send him or her to a gymnastics class or volleyball
Starting point is 00:36:24 or soccer. Yeah. The American people work too damn hard to build this freaking economy for the plantation capitalists. To not have a little bit on the side to say, hey, I want something, a little something for my kid too.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And last thing I say is, I know I'm talking too much, but the thing about it is, right? The average American has known for a very long time intuitively that the game is rigged. And we've let y'all get away with it for a while, but you freaking went too far now. Like not only are you using my money to kill infants, you're allowing a structure to exist where one man can become a trillionaire. And we celebrate that as a thing.
Starting point is 00:37:12 So enough for that shit. You know, now it's time for the people to work in. class this country to rebuild a new America and that's also what the book is about. Right. And I think like it's kind of fascinating to see how people are so confused that everybody is making the
Starting point is 00:37:28 connection that is so obvious that we're spending all this money to slaughter children and yet I can't get health care and I can't get child care. Like I don't know if this has bothered you in the way it's bothered me, but the national press has this immense condescension about voters and their ability.
Starting point is 00:37:46 to understand our politics. And they, they're, they're always thinking about it from like a marketing branding perspective. Like, can we get this right candidate in? And it doesn't even come into their brain that a platform could be motivating people. And that's because they don't need to think about politics in the material way. So why would they think that voters do, right? Yeah, it's like the, the capitalist colonization of the mind.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah. It's like mainstream media, how it just thinks and perceives and engages with the world, is through this like hyper-capitalist perspective and mindset. And so there's little, if any, attention or engagement or thought as it relates to real working class people in this country. And as a matter of fact, they're just treated as being at like the bottom of the caste system. Right? Like you're not even Voters are too stupid to understand what's really in their best interests
Starting point is 00:38:52 and so therefore we have to our amazing leadership We are the stewards of I mean they act like senators from like ancient Rome that get to decree and make these decisions Yeah right and the working class You just have to go along with it
Starting point is 00:39:09 Right and again We've known intuitively the game has been rigged But there was a time in this country where, you know, you felt like you worked hard and you did the right thing. You got a little bit ahead and that was fine. But now, man, I mean, people are just tired of struggling. They see through the bullshit. And again, this is like the gift and curse of social media. Social media you could be introduced to new ideas and scholars and people you never heard from before.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You got independent media like the majority report and others like bringing people to truth. and people are desperate, desperately yearning for the truth. Yes. A truth that it might be painful, but at least let me deal with it so I can know how to move from there. People are desperate for it. Well, I think they really think they're being lied to because they are. They are.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Because it's genuinely, like I don't want to use the word conspiracy lightly, but there is a bit of an elite media conspiracy to obscure some of like the actual issues that people are talking about on the ground. I don't know if I've ever seen a disconnect more pronounced than the way that our media class talks about kitchen table issues and what everyday voters are talking about, then I see right now. And it's shocking to me. Well, there is a conspiracy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:34 There's a conspiracy to maintain white supremacy. Right. It's a conspiracy to maintain plantation capitalism. Yep. Conspiracy to maintain patriarchy. Conspiracy to maintain militarism. There is a, absolutely. There are very powerful people conspiring to maintain the system that we have.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yes. And conspiring to lead everyone else to believe you have no power in challenging this system. But see, now people are starting to believe that they and know that they have power. Yeah. Right? The power in their fault. The power and their ability to organize. the power to knock a door, the power to make a call, the power to send a tweet, the power to send a text.
Starting point is 00:41:17 People have power. This is another thing that is really important. If you send a single email more than you sent a month ago, that's power. That's you taking an important step towards exercising your voice, exercising your power, in whichever way you want. And guess what? elected officials, they read those emails and they count those emails and they know what emails are coming in. And that's why we see the 105 vote against sending more weapons to Israel and 10 abstain.
Starting point is 00:41:50 That was untenable when I was in Congress just two years ago. Unheard of. Like the majority of Democrats in the House voted to either abstain or not send weapons to Israel. I can't think of when this happened before. Yeah. I mean, it's astonishing because it should be the common sense position, but also giving what we know about the Democrats. It's astonishing. And I don't want to get too much into your book, but I am curious since we brought up Zoron.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Well, I mean, because I haven't read it yet. I haven't read it yet. We have to have you on. I got to come back again. We have to have you on again. But like the infrastructure stuff piques my interest because, you know, like, part of why we're in the situation and like, you know, affordability. they're using this as a buzzword, but they don't want to do Zoron's policies, but they want to talk about affordability. Okay. But part of the infrastructure bill and build back better and all of that is like we threw millions and millions of people back into poverty with the destruction of the expanded child tax credit. And that was Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema's doing. And it was also Biden bringing in Republicans into the negotiating process instead of just ramming it through at the beginning of his term. At least that's my assessment from the outside. That was part of it.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. How do you view it? Yeah, no, absolutely right about the Republicans that he brought into this conversation under the mythology that, you know, we need bipartisanship to make these things work, right? Post-insurrection president, which is insane. Yes. It's just like, okay, y'all just tried to take over the U.S. government. Yeah. Like, let's be nice to them.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Like, Capitol Police are dead. Like, people are dead. But you know what? come back into the tent let's have a conversation and get this thing figured out right like that was then this is now like two months later um no but you're i i love the framing around build back better and affordability and how much that hurt Biden that he wasn't able to get that through that's exactly how i wrote about it because that's how i felt in real time and that's how i feel like looking back on it right and like that day was so crazy because like we came in in the morning expecting to vote on build back better and the infrastructure bill and because infrastructure already passed the Senate, Biden was going to hold it at his desk until Bill Back Better passed the Senate as well. All of a sudden, Josh Goffheimer and his, you know, band of merry Congress people decide,
Starting point is 00:44:31 oh, we don't want to vote on this bill back better anymore. We want to vote. We need a CBO score. Some bullshit they just made up. And he was also worried about, right, the tax exemptions for. He's a bitch. He's worried about bitch shit. That's what he.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Josh Gottheimer, yo is, anyway, I feel about him like I feel about Richie Torres. Like two bitches that should not be in fucking electorate. I was waiting. I was waiting for you to unload. I'm sorry. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:45:01 they want a CBO score. even though Richie Neal, the chair of Ways and Means, who's, he ain't no DSA member, already told everyone this shit is paid for. Okay, we're going to do this with the IRS. We're going to tax the corporations a little bit more. We got it. We got Billed Back Better paid for.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And if we had passed Build Back Better, people would have real money in their pockets. And so now affordability, we'd have been ahead of the affordability conversation. and then we would have been much more likely to win 2024 even though Gaza was still going to be a challenge. But that day, I remember, after these corporate dams said, we're not going to vote on Bill back better,
Starting point is 00:45:46 the CBC caved and the CPC that was holding the line, I don't want to say they caved because the CBC, see the thing about Congress, and again, we're not going to go too much into it, because we're going to talk about it again, But once the CBC is such a barometer, when the CBC moves a certain way, the other caucuses just kind of go. But the CPC was still trying to hold the line, and we had a meeting, and Joe Biden called into the meeting. And Pramillo put him on speakerphone, and he made his pitch.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And I'll just leave it there for now. Wow. But I write about this. In the book, the title is Unpolished. This was the first time I was in Congress. I was like, oh shit, my life is a movie. This is a movie. We're in a movie.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I couldn't believe what happened that day. I am so excited to read this. And you're teasing us, but that's a good teaser. I can't begrudge you that because now people are going to pick up the book. We'll put a pre-order link in the show notes. Please. I mean, actually, you could sign up for the waiting list right now. Unpolishedbook.com.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Get on the waiting list so you can have it first when it comes out. But you're right about Bill Back better. That's exactly right. And then as we know, it never went anywhere. Joe Man, should kill the rest of its history. But the story of how we got there is crazy. That's crazy. And I'm glad you mentioned the Congressional Black Caucus,
Starting point is 00:47:13 because I wanted to at least talk about the Michigan Senate race with you a little bit. Jim Clyburn and the CBC PAC have now endorsed Haley Stevens. Of course. Over Abdul Al-Said. What are your thoughts on that? I mean, it's Paul for the course, right? I mean, many of them, many CBC members, if not most, are funded by APAC and supported by APAC and have been supported by APAC for a very long time, including Leader Jeffries. Haley Stevens is one of APAC's darlings.
Starting point is 00:47:44 You know, on the one hand, that's on the one hand. On the other hand, a lot of this is relational, right? She's a colleague of theirs. She's a house. She's a house member. She's been a house member for a while. She's a colleague. league, that does hold weight.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Like, I don't want the audience not to, it does, right? We try to give that context to even when, like, say, AOC isn't endorsing, say, Malek, Kiroos against DeGette. DeGette is in the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and you have to have a working relationship. Yes. And so it's a balance. It's a balance. And DeGette wasn't like terrible, terrible, terrible.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Right. Right. But, yeah. So that, that's, that is not surprising that the CBC endorsed Haley. Again, colleagues funded by the same people. It just is what it is. I mean, the CBC endorsed Elliot Engel against me, and I'm black.
Starting point is 00:48:31 You know what I'm saying? I remember that now. So like that actually happened. But the bigger conversation here is, and not just about this race in general, is the CBC as part of the political and democratic establishment and part of maintaining that establishment.
Starting point is 00:48:51 From caving on Bill Back Better to this endorsement to Ellie Stevens and so many other things, It's just a political establishment that is no longer tenable for the American people, and it needs to change. And CBC members, in my opinion, need to be part of the leadership that facilitates that change in the spirit of what our ancestors died for to even put us all, not just black people, but us all in the positions that we have today.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Do you think that it's part of the problem with the CBC is that many in leadership are from, like, Southern districts that are heavily gerrymandered and that can kind of create perverse incentives for some of them? I mean, possibly. I think I think it's I think that's part of it. I think the overall black establishment infrastructure has been heavily supported by special interests and the apex of the world as well. Right. So like I'm talking about like HBCUs, black church, divine nine, you know, fraternal organizations, the congressional black caucus. I mean, APAC has had a hand
Starting point is 00:50:01 and special interests have had a hand in supporting this infrastructure in the black community for a very long time. And many of the narratives and messages and conversations that happen in those spaces align with maintaining the status quo. Where black leadership, again, has always been at the forefront, has been like civil rights
Starting point is 00:50:21 civil rights that has benefited everyone. But like now we're talking about we need a political revolution and we need black leadership to be a major part of that. And that means like pivoting and taking on some of the institutions and interests that have been very harmful to our democracy, again, like APEC, not to beat a broken record.
Starting point is 00:50:46 No, no, I exactly right. I guess I wanted to also touch on ice too. Do we, maybe we can play this for with Jamal, the, um, the ex-wife. Yeah. So, uh, this, uh, ice officer who shot, uh, Yohan Sebastian Guerrero in Maine, um, apparently, according to his wife, who spoke to the Associated Press, had serious mental health issues since childhood, had been abusive, she alleges, and had been violent in the past. and threatening relatives, including there's a voicemail that she shared with the Associated Press that he said he thought someone should slit her throat. Yeah, he said, I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but I'm saying it should happen to you.
Starting point is 00:51:37 So this is the guy who killed that man in Maine, and here is the interview with his ex-wife about this ICE officer. David back in November brought up that he had accepted a job with ICE. I thought of that it was just a delusional thing because I'm used to him talking crazy, so to speak. So I said, yeah, sure, you are, buddy, you know. I didn't realize that he was actually working for ICE until yesterday, and I was completely shocked. Because I'm like, how do you keep getting into these jobs where you're around guns all the time? I asked him what was going on. He told me that I don't need to be answering questions for anybody.
Starting point is 00:52:18 that all I needed to know was that it was a justified shooting and that he did do it. And he claimed that this man had tried to run him over. And I said, I don't see that in anything. And I've watched her from all angles. All I've seen is how the car was going in circle after the fact. And then he's like, well, I need you to lie about my character because this is how, like, this is what it comes down to is my character. I don't want you talking about any of the abuse in our relationship. Like, this is literally about me, actually.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I told him that I was not going to lie for him, that I've waited years to speak my truth. I've been silenced long enough, and now I need to come out with everything because a man lost his life. It was abuse not only to me, but to our daughter. And even being divorced from him, I've dealt with harassing phone calls, threats of him wanting to kill me. I believe that this man was murdered. I believe that David's mental health played a part in what happened. I think what happened was he was standing there during that operation, had a PTSD moment, and hit fight or flight mode. And unfortunately, a man lost his life due to it.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So this is the kind of person that has signed up for ICE under the Trump administration. They're not doing any screening. They're pretending that they are. They're getting a badge and a gun. They're not forcing them to wear body cameras. As someone spoke to the intercept, I think it was ICE officials that said that they saw that there were body cameras on the officers in Maine, but they clearly just weren't turned on. And it just shows. What I've heard is that they aren't paying for this.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And who knows what to believe, but they aren't paying for the subscription to that. So they actually just work as walkie-talkies. Oh, lovely. I mean, but, but like body cameras, what are we talking about here? I mean, can you talk about that a bit because like it's just. Just 95, 96, 97% of the time, whatever, those body cameras are going to be used to facially scan anybody that they're having an interaction with. Maybe it will pick up on officers doing horrible things in immigration enforcement, but they might just turn them off. And we also have endless footage of the killings of Alex Prattie and Renee Good.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And there's still been no accountability. It's just like we need to only be talking about abolishment. And that's it. abolishment and prosecution for those who are murdering people in our streets. And, you know, and this is, you know, again, I write about this quite frequently in the book because this is not just an ICE issue. This is a local law enforcement issue across the country, right? Like, what is the screening process when someone applies to be a member of law enforcement in, you know, pick your, you know, smaller city or town or area, you know, who are, who are these
Starting point is 00:55:23 people who have guns and badges, right? And how do they even get onto a force? And then when they get onto the force and do something like this, how are they held accountable, if at all? And what we've seen is, you know, public outrage and, like, public action. leads to accountability and has to be done to lead to any sort of accountability. To lead to any sort of conversation, you need the public to, like, rise up, right? You know, I'm thinking of the gentleman, oh, man, the gentleman who was jogging in Georgia. Hunted down by two dudes just hunted him down. These weren't law enforcement, but these were like George Zimmerman-type characters who.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Arborie? About Arbor, yeah. Yeah, right? Tell me the name again? Arbery, Amad Arbery, who was going for a jog. Yep. These two, this father and son hunted him down, killed him. And the public didn't hear about, I think, till weeks or maybe a month or more later.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And then the outrage led to accountability. And so first, how are you even getting, the application should dismiss you from even being able to join law enforcement, get a gun in the badge. And then when you get one, how are you being held accountable? And this is why after, you know, George Floyd was lynched, the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act was such an important piece of legislation, moved through the House quickly. And then Cory Booker and Tim Scott, you know, just couldn't come to an agreement. Wow, what a surprise.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And the bill didn't move in the Senate at all. And in that bill, we wanted to end qualified immunity, if I remember correctly, which is, you know, because right. now, it's very hard to hold law enforcement accountable when they do something like this. Even in New York City, a place like New York City, there's like millions, tens of millions set aside to settle cases as opposed to holding law enforcement officials accountable. So ending qualified immunity, someone having, you know, you could be in law enforcement and do something really bad in one city and then transfer to another city and it doesn't follow
Starting point is 00:57:40 you to that city. So now you're law enforcement again in another place. It's just further emphasize the need for overall criminal justice reform. Of course it emphasizes the need to abolish ICE and then prosecute ICE, but also going back to what we always talk about, which is electoral politics. We got to vote these people out of office, man. And we need everybody to organize and everybody to vote because that's still an issue. We still have not 80% of people voting, right?
Starting point is 00:58:10 We're not reaching the numbers we need to reach to really get champions in office that could really change things. Yeah. And it does just, when I see something like this, you see how it's basically a federalizing of broken windows policing and what communities, particularly in cities of color, have been dealing with for decades and decades. And even the use of gang databases, right? like the way that they're putting together these lists of immigrants and trying to round them up. Like for years and years, gang databases have served to essentially tag people with some sort of vague criminality to trump up charges against them, whether it's a gun charge or a drug charge. And then that's with them forever. And were the number one jailer on the planet, I was real.
Starting point is 00:59:06 still we're not talking about it as much but we still are but you know who's i mean zorong came up earlier i was super moved by him going to rikers and watching the world cup like that's something where and that wasn't his first time in rikers no he's been there multiple times in just like six months and and and a polster or a pundit or a consultant would say hey that's not there's no political advantage for you to go there and you know be seen with criminals or whatever it was just the right thing to do and like he's used using his political capital to bring up conversations that had been told, we were told after George Floyd and everything were too woke and were damaging us electorally.
Starting point is 00:59:48 That it just wasn't the case. You just have to foreground how to make people's lives better materially. And then no one's talking about him going to Rikers in this negative way. No one's talking about how he stands up for trans people, which were seen as too touchy for other Democrats to handle. but it's because he leads with his affordability agenda and then all of that stuff is folded in. He leads with his humanity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:13 The reason why I've always loved Zoran is because I see his humanity and you can feel his humanity when you, the way he shakes your hand, the way he has a conversation, the way he gives you a pound and a hug. There's a humanity that leads his politics. And what we all want is we want. is we want our elected officials to be public servants and to lead with human rights first. Like if they did that, we would like solve like a lot of problems. And like the stuff that they claim to care about, they mean they're like the psychocapitalist, the stuff that they care about like GDP would actually improve.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yes. Right? Like if you. New York's doing super well economically right now. Right, right. And it could be doing even better if we gave the people that we've redlined and marginalized access and opportunity in the same ways we give other communities. We would have a better GDP. We would have better health outcomes. We would have better education outcomes. We have better social outcomes. We would spend less on health care overall. And we would spend less on jail and prisons overall and law enforcement because people would have less freaking stress in their lives. Yeah, yeah. Engaging each other as human beings versus this.
Starting point is 01:01:34 What are we even doing some of the time? Being in the house should be so frustrating because it's like, we can't raise the federal minimum wage, really? Like, we can't figure that out. We're still at $750? It's insane. Like, we can't do that. We can't provide health care.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Like, it's just, it's crazy. Yeah. And we mentioned the Ahmad Arbery case. I just wanted to, because I know you've been posting a lot about what's happening with Nolan Wells in this case. What's the latest update? For people that aren't aware, Nolan Walls is an 18-year-old kid who was reported missing in, I think this is Mississippi, right? Yeah. And basically he had gone on a July 4th boating trip with
Starting point is 01:02:23 some friends, a group of white kids, and he had been missing, and it appears like his phone was erased and they've now found his body. It's terrifying. So as a black man, this is terrifying. As a black man with two black sons and one black daughter, this is terrifying. This is our worst nightmare. Allowing our child to go hang out, which is natural to do. Kids hang out.
Starting point is 01:02:51 They do stuff all the time. Allowing our child to hang out with some friends. And the friends come back without your. child, but they have his cell phone. And we are not really quite sure what happened. What we're hearing is he was left with a girl. They left him behind with a girl. First of all, there's code, right?
Starting point is 01:03:13 Like, when you hang out with your boys or your friends or your girlfriends, y'all leave together, y'all come back together. And not on an island. Like, they had left him on an island because they were on a boat trip. Yeah. Like, right? So this is like our worst nightmare as parents. parents of any background, but particularly as black parents, because it's like, we always are looking over, I'm talking as a black man with black children as a black parent.
Starting point is 01:03:39 We're always looking over our shoulder, thinking and feeling like some shit might happen. It could be the police. It could be some fucking Nazi asshole in the mall, which that's happened to me, someone to just fucking approach me and try to fight with me and call me a piece of shit. happened before. It could be our kids going on the trip. Like, it's just our worst nightmare. And when I saw this happen, I'm just like, what, what the hell? Like, what is this? And so that I don't have any more updates other than that, other than to share how completely terrifying that this is and to, and to share also, because I saw some commentary about this on the line,
Starting point is 01:04:23 online. It's important for like leftist, socialist, political people to talk about this stuff too, right? So I appreciate you, Emma, talking about this and allow me to speak about it. But like, you know, Ryan Grimm and all, like the whole ecosystem, you got to talk about black shit too. Yeah. Don't just talk to us about winning the elections for socialists. Like, and this goes into the whole other conversation. right like is dsa anti-black and all of that dsa's not anti-black but like white people need to talk about black shit more it has to be more intersectional has to be more intersectional and intentional right because one we're all here because of like the sacrifices of black people like that's just a fact right like from enslavement to black laws to lynching or jim crow to all of it but also like you know as we move as we move together in our collective humanity and our collective healing we got to make sure
Starting point is 01:05:24 everyone's a part of that conversation regardless of how messed up the cbc tends to be right yeah and so yeah so i just want to thank you for elevating that and i just want the only thing i can say is it's terrifying so it's our worst nightmare what happened to nolan wells yeah and and i'm not sure if you saw but uh colin cavernick is funding an independent autopsy what a bad guy we were told he's such a I mean, like, but, but why does he even have to do that? But why does he? But because it's Mississippi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Right? Yeah. I mean, why did it take a week for them to even like really look into this case? And they had to get Ben Crump to be, you know, the kind of star attorney to come in to get this taken seriously. I mean, just in New York a year or two ago, there was a incarcerated person who was like beaten the death by some CEOs like upstate. Yeah. Black dude, right? And again, I just want to share with the like.
Starting point is 01:06:18 sort of progressive left socialist audience, whatever we want to call them, like it seems for me, it seems like a few times a year some horrific, heinous killing happens to someone black or brown. And it's a reminder for me by my own experience with police brutality
Starting point is 01:06:37 when I was 12, but also watching Rodney King get the living shit beat out of him when I was like in 92 and those officers be acquitted on a local level. Yeah. Right. And that's a major part of our politics, too, that we have to champion going forward.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yep. Absolutely. Well, uh, Jamal Bowman, anything else you want to plug outside of just Unpolished, baby. I mean, giving us. Go to unpolished book.com. Do you have another teaser? Join the waiting list. I mean, when's it out? One's it? November 17th. Yeah. Do you have another teaser? Because I mean, as I've been saying, like, you're, you're okay with just like taken off the gloves these days. I want to go off You already called Godheimer a bitch There's some local There's some there's some Yonkers politics
Starting point is 01:07:22 happening right now Okay I have a video that I'm waiting to post about this this guy John Rubo This this he's a city council person He might be running for mayor But like
Starting point is 01:07:35 There's a Bring you hyper local real quick Okay I live in Yonkers I'm representing Yonkers In Congress Leslie Ocando Thomas she worked for the city for 12 years serving the people of Yonkers she decides she's going to run for county legislator which is her right in a democracy John Rubo and a fucking machine fires her from her job because she decided to run against the machine
Starting point is 01:08:06 took her I believe six figure salary away now she struggles to keep food on the table for her her family and a roof over her head because John Rubo and the machine fired her because she chose to exercise her right in a democracy to run for office. That's insane. She's a woman. She's a Latina. She's served Yonkers for over a decade in the city, in the city council as an employee. This guy is a disgrace and an embarrassment.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And this is the kind of shit that happens all the time. Yonkers also has its own. your political machine. Yes. Yeah. Right. And it's in the show show me a hero.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Yes. Right. Up to now with the, with the Spando machine, right? And it's, it's just like, this is why like working class people
Starting point is 01:08:57 and people from marginalized communities don't run for office. Or don't even think about challenging power because it's like, I'm going to lose my job. This guy fired up. Yeah. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 01:09:09 what happened to Dario Lisa of Chavillier with that smear campaign against her? I mean, she was being harassed in the street. If you're a leftist and you're a person of color and you choose to run for office, you are going to get the worst of the machine thrown at you. Abdul's dealing with it right now.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Abdul's dealing with it. Yeah. So anyway, Jamal Bowman, it's always a pleasure, especially to have you in person. We're going to take a quick break, folks, and then we'll be right back to wrap up the first part of this program. See in a second. We're back. Folks, going to wrap up the first part of this program, head into the fun half.
Starting point is 01:10:57 We have a lot of people saying it's a best-of nomination. I mean, just for Jamal calling Godhimer and Torres bitches. Yeah, great. That is grandma. That was so grandma of him. Matt, what is happening in the Matt Lechian media universe? Brendan James on Jacobin show coming up at 3 o'clock this afternoon after Majority Report here. Who controls who in the U.S.-Israel relationship?
Starting point is 01:11:25 Yep. Blowback has a new series called No Daylight about that question, and it's interesting to historicize it over time as Noah and Brendan do. So, yeah, check that out. Great conversation with Brendan. All right. If you can, if you have the ability, please become a member. Join the Majority Report.com. It helps us stay resilient in these times.
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Starting point is 01:12:10 All right. The world's smartest man. Affordability. We'll see you in the phone half. Okay, Emma, please. Well, I just, I feel that my voice is sorely lacking in the majority report. Wait.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Look. Look, Sam is unpopular. I do deserve a vacation at Disney World. So, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show. It is Thursday. Yeah, I think you need to do a program for Sam. That's good. Sir, I'm gonna pause you right there.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Wait, what? You can't encourage Emma to live like this. And I'll tell you why. So it's offered a twerk, sushi, and poker with the boys. Oh, that's what we call this. Dwar? Sushi and... Just think that what you did to Tim Poole,
Starting point is 01:13:14 What was mean? Free speech. That's not what we're about here. Look at how sad he's become now. You shouldn't even talk about it because I think you're responsible. I probably am in a certain way, but let's get to the meltdown here. Twirp? Ugh.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Sushi and poker with the boys. Oh my God. Wow. Sushi. I'm sorry. I'm losing my fucking mind. Someone's offered a twirp. Sushi and poker with the boys.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Logic. Dwerp. Sushi and just things. I'm not trying to be a dick right now, but like, I absolutely think the U.S. should be providing meat. with a life and kids. That's not what we're talking about. It's not a fun job.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Twirt. That's what Willie Walker. Like the weight of the world on the shoulders. It was so much easier. One of the majority of report was just you. You were happy. Let's change the subject. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I want people saying reckless things on. Most difficult parts about this show. This is a pro-killing podcast. I'm thinking maybe it's kind of we bury the hatchet. Left is best. Violet. Twirte. Steam song.
Starting point is 01:15:47 I bumbler. Viglin, absolutely one of my favorite people. Actually, not just in the game, like period.

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