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Episode Date: May 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:35 It's all marketing. Harry Styles, what the heck is a pleasing pen? As your marketing, Busty, who graduated top 1% UCLA... Who graduated 20% UCLA business economics with a background in marketing, we're going to study how exactly did Harry Styles go from just a bakery boy
Starting point is 00:02:00 to the modern king dandy. Through maximizing the branding power of the elusive trope, the dandy and is it worth it? I think I've gotten the egg from Harry Styles. It's tone deaf, it's exploitative. So why does this even matter to you? Well, whether you're a girl or a man,
Starting point is 00:02:18 you might be able to learn a few tricks about this trope through his story because the power of ambiguity can work in your favor. Just like how Timothy Shalomey, Billy Elish, and Coco Chanel used it to build their massive empires. He styles has everything. He's got a brand. Gotta be almost touching a billion dollars at this point. Sold out shows, amazing career, beautiful looks. Watch carefully because if you miss a step, you will turn into a Jojo Siwa situation. I'm Jojo Siwa. I released one song and made it my entire personality.
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Starting point is 00:04:55 Go to world.org to learn more. To keep a community small to only ambitious people who want to understand pop culture through a smarter branding perspective, please do not subscribe unless if you're ready to expand your mind. Before explaining what the hell a dandy is, let's begin the lore with a wholesome bakery boy. Harry 1.0 began singing as a child on a karaoke machine his grandfather gave. As a teenager, he worked part-time at a local bakery,
Starting point is 00:05:22 delivered newspapers and even worked at a stable. But unlike most teenagers his age, Harry Stiles listened to his mother. And why have you always wanted to audition, Harry? Because my mom's always told me that I'm a good singer. And his mom was right, partially. Hey, soul sister, ain't that Mr. Mr. on the radio. Though eliminated in X Factor as a solo singer, with four other eliminated boys, they formed a boy band and competed as a group instead.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Little did they know, they become an instant threat to Justin Bieber's legacy. The Universal Boy Crush. Brits Awards, American Music Awards, Billboard, MTV, you name it. But not long after, one direction became many directions, and it was time to go solo. Harry 2.0. How and why? Did Harry styles go from polos, cardigans, and blazers to skirts, dresses, bowls, tutus? Well, before we understand the style evolution, through a marketing perspective, let's first make sure we know, what is a dandy? Most of us feel trapped within the limited role that the rest of the world expects us to play.
Starting point is 00:06:30 are instantly attracted to those who are more fluid than we are, those who create their own persona. Dandies play with masculinity and femininity. They fashion their own physical image, which is always startling. They excite us because they cannot be categorized and hint at a freedom we want for ourselves. But you smart cookies might ask, isn't hypermasculinity more seductive in a man? Well, it depends. In Robert Greens, the art of seduction, quote, Do not be one of those who believe that what is most seductive is being devastatingly masculine. The feminine dandy has a much more sinister effect. He leers the woman with exactly what she wants, a familiar, pleasing, graceful presence, mirroring female psychology.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He displays attention to his appearance, sensitivity to detail, a slight coquettishness, but also a hint from male cruelty. And with this, you might begin to understand the underlying mechanism of Marketing power, number one, ambiguity. Whatever, come in. This is not an easy technique. For the classic case of branding, if you confuse, you lose. So what makes Harry Styles? And all the other successful cases like Timothy Chalemay win.
Starting point is 00:07:53 They sell ambiguity, not confusion. There is a difference. Ambiguity is a choice. It is a brand selling freedom. and goes with shock marketing too. The seed of Harry's rebrand perhaps sprouted at the 2015 AMA, appearing in the floral 1970s inspired Gucci two-piece for Michelle's Spring Summer 2016 collection.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Note, before this, the most edge Harry ever had was beat up Chelsea boots, black skinny jeans, hats, grungy t-shirts, Saint Laurent, and Alexander McQueen. Harry Lambert changed Harry's style's visuals to playful. At this time, he was actually still with one direction, signaling that he was already outgrowing the brand before he left. Because a floral Gucci suit soon to become a lace shirt or a dress is not going to fly with a group. The effect, however, is a quadruple win.
Starting point is 00:08:46 A, it is a visual shock and definitely sparks some conversations. B, ambiguity creates projection. It essentially makes you a mirror. People just see you as they want. Harry never said, I'm queer, so the queer kid made him queer. He never said, I'm a feminist. so the feminist made him a feminist. He never said,
Starting point is 00:09:04 this song is about a man, so everyone heard themselves in it. And making songs about fruit that people think are about sex. I just really like fruit, guys. I like sex too. His audience grew multiple folds. From the girlies who loved him since his soft boyfriend era
Starting point is 00:09:21 to becoming a queer-coded symbol. The less you define, the more people can belong. And see, ambiguity protects you from being wrong. You can pivot later without contradiction and you won't alienate anyone. D, ambiguity creates depth and mystique. Even when it's not there, silence is taken as thoughtfulness, which is why sometimes it is wise to speak less, not more. The movie is like it feels like a movie.
Starting point is 00:09:51 But a warning here, ambiguity only works when the audience trusts your intentions. The moment that fans decide vagueness is strategic rather than genuine. It inverts completely. The mirror becomes a manipulation. The projection screen becomes evidence of exploitation. Hence, the waves of allegations of him queer baiting. Some people accused me of something called queer baiting. But did it ever occur to you that... Maybe you don't know everything about me, Dad! And this is why what he used next makes a difference.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Marketing power number two. Nostalgia and safety. Ambiguity in certain cases, This just see what can be attention grabbing, but damaging. So why is Harry so likable? A, nostalgia leads to instant emotional trust. This is what Sabrina Carpenter does well, is what Harry styles built into his core brand. Harry constantly posed from already loved era, 70s rock star silhouettes, flared pants, silk shirts, vintage, romantic, analog texture, film graying, soft lighting, the echoes of David Bowie or Mc Jagger, but softened.
Starting point is 00:10:59 The 1970s he's selling isn't the actual 1970s. It's a curated fantasy. Of an era, his young audience never lived through. That's the most powerful kind of nostalgia because it's nostalgia for something you can't fact check. Thus, it is very fresh, but it feels familiar before it's understood. On top of which, the nostalgia for One Direction allows fans to time travel back to their own girlhood, their first concerts, their first obsessions. They were briefly reunited with a younger version.
Starting point is 00:11:29 of themselves, which leads to be safety. Just like Timothy Chalameh, Harry's version of masculinity is gentle, non-threatening, women can desire them without discomfort, brands can partner with them without risk. People feel safe to project. Because Harry Styles is also known to avoid controversies and strong opinions, while most celebrities eventually say something wrong or break the illusion. Timothy's beef with ballet or Blake Lively's image of America's sweetheart. I'll get to Harry's launch of The Vibrator in a sec.
Starting point is 00:11:59 But overall, as out there as his outfits and choreography are, Harry's style secondary layer of appeal, underneath the ambiguity is his extreme warmth, is safety. Hence, we have herself a formula. Maximum warmth plus minimal confirmation equals a gap that feels safe to live inside. With this deadly combo comes the opportunity for Marketing Power Number 3, Capitalization of Female Gays. The female gaze is not exactly reversing the male gaze, but focusing on the emotional
Starting point is 00:12:34 depth, agency, and experience rather than objectification. For Harry, he is arguably the first male pop star of our time to fully surrender to the female gaze by normalizing behaviors women value but rarely see in mainstream male stars, vulnerability, fluidity, attention to detail, fashion, risk-taking, and essentially allowed his fandom to co-author his persona. Love on tour was one of the highest grossing tours in history. Why? The product being sold wasn't just the music. It was a curate space where the female gays was the dominant culture.
Starting point is 00:13:06 He made his body emotionally available. And I have to give it to him, his energy was very charming at Coachella. Strategically, the gays became a literal product line. I mean, even Jenny Kim wears their sweatshirt. Pleasing Harry's style's brand invites you to buy a piece of Harry's softness androgy beauty. But the $65 nail polish gives you a hint. Who was expected to buy it and how much that emotional attachment was worth per transaction? However, there was one tiny problem.
Starting point is 00:13:35 While the brand began as just a nail polish line now selling everything for makeup fragrance vibrators, from a business POV, they perhaps still lack a hero product. These things sell not because they're the best nail polish ever. In fact, the quality has been shone many times. And even after three coats, the white is still sheer. But they sell because of hairy. While Harry, the warm, charming dandy, becomes aloof when it comes to his own brand, rarely showing up for his own brand and disappointing fans time and time again.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Chanel, on the other hand, is a good example of someone also breaking the gender norm through ambiguity, with her unconventional short hair and masculine silhouettes, but her products sold themselves. From trousers to hats, to suits, to fragrances, they were innovative and functional, and provided comfort solutions to women with style. pleasing reach $60 million in annual sales in 2025, the question is, how much longer are fans willing to keep paying $65 for a sheer nail polish? Just like how fans began to call out, quote, greedy styles as ticket prices are soaring higher than ever.
Starting point is 00:14:41 With objectivity, I do think the brand's creative direction, use of ambiguity in genderless position, and scarcity-drop culture do you have mirrored. But that is all marketing. Marketing cannot work without a solid product. Just like how Harry's ultimate success was not just from his flamboyant elusive style, that's just the packaging. But the fact that he can sing and make the art that make people feel some things. So what are your thoughts on Harry's style's rebrand using the dandy as a trope?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Let me know your thoughts in the comments below. If you want to understand pop culture through a smarter branding perspective, follow the pot for more. Give it a five-star review. It's free and will help the show help you. This is your marketing bestie Zoe Unlimited. Episodes are available on all podcast networks, Apple Spotify YouTube and if you didn't hate this episode, I know you might not hate these other two
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