The Matan Show - Chael Sonnen Threatens To Beat The Sh*t Out Of Matan

Episode Date: August 30, 2026

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast for today's guests. We have Chil Sarnin. Welcome in. All right, look at that. Thanks for coming. Yeah, I wouldn't miss it. For today's co-host, we have our flooring. My manager of our flooring, welcome in.

Our floor, and you can fit over there? You got it? All right. Do I got this right? This sound good? Yeah, well, just pull it close to your mouth like this. And then introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you and all that one. If you don't know, you should know, my name is Chale P. Sunnet and the P stands for icon.

And what do you do? Maybe some people don't know your previous career or something like that. Well, I am deeply immersed in gang activity. I am a gangster by trade. I am an announcer. I used to be with the mixed martial arts. I fought for six world championships. And I, you know, I feel like I'm kind of a mender.

You know, I get along with people really well. I wanted to ask if you would like to use this opportunity to publicly apologize to Tito Ortiz. Now, what is that you see yourself as a manor? mangler? A mender. Oh, a mender. Oh, that's very sweet of you. No, Tito said something very hurtful to me. Tito said, and this is terrible. Like, think about trash talk. Here's what he said to me. He took a microphone. We were face to face. I don't know what's going to happen. He just, we're at this event, he decides he wants a minute on the microphone. So I give him the minute. He takes a microphone and he looks at me and he pauses and then he goes, I hate you. And he wasn't

like to sell a fight or something like this. Like he was just being sincere that he hated. He sincerely hated you? My mother didn't even let us use that word growing up. Like like she would say, don't say hate is such a bad word. Don't use the H word. And he said, I hate you. And I remember standing there thinking, you didn't hate him. This is the whole thing. I'm giving you this airtime. I'm giving you this moment to tell me the, the meanest thing that you can, which is that you hate me. No, I did not, I did not hate him back. No. Well, think about this. You know, just from the videos I've seen, I've never met him. He said, he's, seems like he's not all there.

So maybe he didn't really mean it. Or maybe he did, but he didn't know how hurtful that would be to you. Yeah, maybe that's right. And, you know, maybe I should share our backstory with you, but we wrestled in college. Yes. So, like, when we were kids that were aspiring to be in the UFC or something like this, we knew each other. And then the only thing you get from that sport is you get a camaraderie when it's done.

Yeah. Like, no matter how today's interview, you and I will leave here as friends. That's just the way that it worked. Like, you just, you know, you spend this time with somebody and you get to know him. What if I pulled out a gun and shot myself? Oh, please don't hurt yourself. I don't want to see you hurt yourself. You thought I was going to say you, but if I did it to myself, then it'd be more interesting.

Well, you wouldn't hate me, but we definitely wouldn't be friends. I want to want you to hurt yourself. I'm very pro-life. I don't want anybody to die. Okay. Pro-life, like anti-abortion? Anti-abortion. Yep.

What if you know that it's not going to survive anyways? Oh, boy. Well, I mean, I suppose that would be true. I don't mean to get philosophical. I've never been asked that one, but I suppose that's true. for all of us, right? We're all ultimately not going to survive. No, I mean, like in the womb, it's already like decrepit

because the mother took like a hundred pills. Oh, that mother. No, I would not stop the life, but I did have that happen to a friend. They called it a stillborn. That was very tough. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it was tough. Yeah. Well, then if it's going to happen anyway, then you let it happen

natural instead of speeding it up, but a tough spot for sure. What if you we don't have to go down that path. And have you ever been accused of mal-a-lennie. Malibin. Lenny. No, I didn't miss Lenny.

Did he tell you that? That's what he said along, yeah. I didn't miss. He didn't say to me personally. There's a minute. We were wrestling. That was a, I was teaching him a move. It happened to be called a crotch lift.

That's a very, that's an acceptable. Well, but I thought he could be. I thought he showed potential. You were just trying to help him? I was trying to help him. I am a wrestling coach, and part of it is recruitment. And Lenny was standing there looking like a fool. And I looked at, I said, you know, you kind of look wiry.

I think you have good flexibility. you might have some strength. So I started helping with some. I was encouraging Lenny. That's a terrible rumor. Well, I didn't ask if you, I'm not asking him.

I've asked if you were accused of my-fitting him. No, that's what I thought. I thought you were saying that he then said. No, I was asking if you got accused of muckledly. Oh,

I thought Lenny. Oh, he did it. Then I guess the answer is now. Well, now it's a little confusing at this point. It seems like a yes. Maybe we need Lenny in here on this. Can you call Lenny or you got,

he got some sort of order on you? He doesn't have an order on me. Okay. And what are your top three things about Brazilian people? My top three things. Well, geez. I will tell you this. And I told other people this and they've laughed.

But I don't say this to be lighthearted. They have something over there called a Kosina. You must try it if you go there. It's like this. Some sort of food? Yeah, it's awesome, though. It's deep fried. It's got like meats and cheeses inside.

Then they deep fried like a corn dog, except instead of just having a simple hot dog or saucers, they put like meats and cheese. It's fantastic. Two more. Yep, that's one thing. The women are very beautiful, I must say, and the men are a little bit lazy. No, that's only two so far.

Other ones are an insult. Oh, did we say they had to be good things? Yeah, your top three things. I guess if there's only two good things and that's the top of the bad, that could count. I'm stretching it. You know, it was a nice country, but those men, boy, go around and have babies with all sorts of people and then don't get up and go to work in the morning. I don't understand a man like that.

I don't think they're very pro-life over there. They might be actually, they're Catholic. I don't actually know. I mean like shooting and killing each other. Oh, okay. Oh, I say a strong value on life. Yeah, that's true in some parts. By the way, what's the gimmick?

He's got a plate. He pretends to have a meal. Is that a part of this show? He pretends to have a... He's my manager. Okay, but did he have a meal? Did he eat it? He finished it.

He did. He finished his steak. What was he eating? I think he had a potato and, some steak, I think. He had that Brazilian thing you were talking about, where they put a piece of wood and then they put a bunch of cheese in it. I'm telling you, man, it's really good. It's called a Koshena. You had that in Brazil? Yeah, yeah, I have it in Brazil. Some people will eat it, like, with ketchup and a mustard. I thought it would probably be pretty dangerous for you over there.

Yeah, it probably was. I hit good security when I went, but it's beautiful, man. I went to South Paulo. The people in South Paulo, it's just incredible city, but they will like apologize for it. They'll go, oh, hey, if you're going to be. here you've got to go to Rio. Rio is so much better. I've been to Rio. I liked Rio. I like South Paulo better. I think the Brazilians have it wrong. I think Sao Paulo is a more fun place. I wouldn't know. I will never go there. Really? It seems like a very dangerous place. They're like to sell you. They might sell your fingers because over there that's worth a lot. There is, there is rules from a Brazilian. When I went to Brazil the first time, I was 23 and I went

for Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi was held in Brazil just accept the story. But, uh, When we checked in the hotel, the guy gave us warnings. He said, all right, as soon as it gets dark out, don't leave. Don't ever get in any car, you know, unless I put you in. Unless somebody from this hotel. I think he was actually trying to make it so you didn't have fun. He was trying to do your experience. Yeah, maybe.

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You right now versus them now. Oh, I'm way more dangerous now. No, first off, I'll poke you now. You come up to me now in my street clothes. I'll draw a 38 and put it in your face. No, no, no. Well, that would be a very... Well, but I'm just sharing if that's what you meant.

Not to mention, I mean, I was juiced up then, but I'm way more juiced up now. Oh, really? Are not allowed here? I thought they weren't allowed here. Everybody I see here at the mall is insane. Yeah, no. Well, you got some truth to that.

but I've never seen so many gay people and I'm from LA. In Oregon. Yeah. Oh, really? They do value gay. Now, I'll tell you this. I don't know if you're trying to make a joke, but I'm going to walk right into it.

I'm not joking at all. I went to school at the University of Oregon. That's in Eugene about two hours that way. But it is the lesbian. There is no area stronger for lesbian per capita than Eugene Oregon. So yes, that would be true. Oregon maybe in America but there's no way it beats Tel Aviv yeah it's for America it's an American state status Tel Aviv I've been there Oh really lesbians really shit really that surprises me what now not just gay you're saying lesbian specifically in Tel Aviv I mean probably where else would they go

I don't I don't know I was there I was there and there was a bomb threat there was a bomb when I got there I had to go hide in between walls of a building when was this I had a bomb shelter. 2015-ish. It's where I met Hoyst Gracie. You know that name, Hoise Gracie? Yeah. You met in Tel Aviv? In a bomb shelter.

Wow, interesting. I was having breakfast, and I go, with my wife, we get rushed. There's sirens start going. We get rushed. Were you secretly hoping that the bomb would hit somewhere in Tel Aviv? You know, I was hoping to see a little something, if I'm to be honest. Now, the Iron Dome did end up striking it down, and then the Israeli people dismissed it. They're like, oh, this small bomb, small group, no problem.

But maybe if you're truly. a superhero, you would have dismantled the Iron Dome. I'd like to have known about it. So the bomb could have actually hit. Yeah. It was impressive the way that they organized and rushed us into this bomb shelter, though. Right in the middle of breakfast. It was cool.

Why were you there to begin with? Scott Coker brought us over to do a Bellator. Sold out, huge event. The Israelis were huge into that. Israelis are very tough, actually. I come from a wrestling background. And every Olympic cycle, they'll have somebody. I heard that if you go to Israel, you have to do a post every day on social media

saying how beautiful it is. Is it true? No, that isn't true, but I will tell you this. The Mediterranean is what that sits on. And that is the nicest water, the nicest sand I have ever seen. Even in postcards, I have never seen anything as white, crystal, perfectly blue. You see right through the ocean all the way to the bottom. It was really amazing. Right. I don't think of Israel as a destination, largely because of all the fighting that goes on. But it is a designation. That is like where people should go on honeymoons or special events. It was beautiful.

I definitely wouldn't agree, but I... Now, have you been there? No, I haven't. Okay. I was going to say you're Catholic? Catholic, yeah. Yeah, it's changing, I guess, but I guess they're still a lot... Because you're older, there's still a lot of, like, older guys that really love Israel.

Yeah. I'm going to Russia next week. Interesting. So you just don't give a shit about nothing. No, I don't... I do want to be smart. I do want to be smart. And, uh, but no, I'm getting...

brought over by Putin. I mean, the actual government is bringing us over. And I'm going for a wrestling event. But wrestlers are treated very different in certain parts of the world. Iran is one of them. Russia is one of them. The government gets involved. So, no, I think that we will be just fine. Why is the government so obsessed with stalking crazy people and messing with their heads? Wouldn't they be better of doing this to smart people? Yeah. Yeah, that's, uh, ha, ha. Everything about that? Yeah. No, I have never thought about that. But I, I, I don't know that I disagree with your point. I always see them on Instagram and there's people following them, but they're clearly not all there.

So I start to wonder, wouldn't they be better off stalking me? And then I begin to think maybe they are. Yeah, they could be. But maybe they're actually sending better resources to get a hold of me. Yeah. And I can't find them like crazy people. That's true. Well, you're very accessible, though.

They could probably just ask you to come sit down and visit with them and you probably would. The crazy people don't want to follow them. The crazy people or the people following them and potentially me. Yeah. Well, that could be. If you outsmart them, we'll see. No, I'm saying, but who would I sit down with? I certainly wouldn't sit down with the crazy people who think they're being followed.

But if somebody was following me, I would sit down with them. Yeah, I saw you. You sat down with someone. I don't know how to say his last name. I hope you know it, but it's John. John. John, Chirooku? Yeah, John Chirooku.

Yeah, man. He got a bad deal. I'd like to be able to help him. I hope somebody does help him. He should have been pardoned by now. I think the only problem with him not being pardoned as of now is he doesn't get his money. I think he should get his money. But that money is nothing to him now.

But he should get his freedom too, man. He's innocent. I hear you on that. I hear you on that. I'm just saying, well, he's not completely free. A felony falls you around. I have a felony. It follows you around.

And he is a... You have a felony? Yeah. What did you do? I rob some banks. You rob banks? Yeah. Okay.

I don't actively rob banks. But why did you do that? Oh, don't make it like I'm... Wait a minute. You think I'm the bad guy in this scenario? For robbing a bank? Banks are racist. They are predatory.

They take people's houses. They take people's cars. Banks are terrible. I took from, I'm the hero of this story. You're saying they're racist because the black people are more likely to go bankrupt or some other group or what do you mean they're racist? More likely to not even get banked. No more, more likely to not even get loans.

That's just a smart decision. That's just the banked. When I told you I robbed bank, did you think, you were like looking down on me? Like I'm the jerk in the situation? Banks are terrible. I don't think there's anything ethically wrong or morally wrong with robbing a bank, but it's the type of people who do it, it says something about them. Well, it's a more sophisticated thing.

Tell you something that they say about me. They say I am like Robin Hood. the half a road. Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. I stole from the rich and then I kept it, but I'm a lot like Robin Hood. But you were poor, so you gave to the four-technical play. Well, I kept it for myself. It's a brokerage fee. But you were poor at the time? I was poorer then than I am now.

So you're still like Robin Hood. It turned out that it was very lucrative. Yeah. And relatively easy, I got to tell you. Similarly on that, what was the toughest thing about growing up in a family that sometimes didn't make 100 grand? Well, barely made 100 grand. It was tough. I remember one time that the air conditioner went out, we had to go outside and jump in the swimming pool just to cool off.

Wow, that's horrible. It was tough stuff. How long did you get that? This is the plight, though. You wonder why I turn out to choose gang life and to have felonies after rob banks? What choice did I have? I was coming up that way. What choice did I have?

How long did it take for the air conditioner to get fixed? Well, when my dad got home, he had a key to drill. He fixed it, but there was a good three hours where we had to go float around in the water. So he fixed it immediately? Yeah. I feel like that could happen to somebody with a billion dollars, though, right? Yeah, it could. Unless their dad has a McKita drill.

Unless he does or doesn't? Well, if he doesn't, he's going to be in a lot of trouble. He's going to have to go borrow one from a neighbor. Think of how embarrassing that would be. Yeah. I guess that makes sense. He manages you. What does this guy manage?

Viral flooring? If you need some new rugs, he can help. He makes floors go viral. You know, I got to tell you. I don't have a new show on YouTube. He can make it go viral and explode. I don't want to stare at you and make you uncomfortable. But you're a handsome guy with kind of a weird look.

I hope you take that as a compliment. Like when I saw you outside I go, what I is? Oh, that's the guy. That's who I'm coming to see. No, I appreciate it. But yeah, you got something going interesting with the hair.

May I ask, how old are you? I'm 19. Oh, are you? Okay, I told my buddy, I said, hey, I think he's 19. I knew you were 19 when you talked with Dominic Cruz, but I felt like that was a year ago.

So I thought maybe you were 20. Then I think I was 17 then. But yeah, people tell me I have an interesting look. I look like a real tough fighter. Yeah. It's what people tell me. Somebody not to be messed with. What did you think of Dominic?

He's smart, isn't he? He's a smart guy. Yeah, he's smart. Dominic's smart. Dominic's not, he's not socially equipped enough to not call certain things out. So I enjoyed your guys his interview. I thought that he went after you just as much as you went after him, though. I thought you guys were very good together.

And following up on the last question, you've made millions of dollars, but you still live in Wesleyan, Oregon. Why would you subject your son to living such a horrible, dangerous place? I made millions of dollars from stealing so I could live in Wesleyan Oregon. Is that how you said that? No, no. You've made millions of dollars, but you still live here. Why would you subject your family and your son to live in such a dangerous, horrible place? And you're not looking at me like the jerk in that bank thing, right? You understand that I was the, that was a heroic thing that I did to see what they're doing and to go in and take from them. In the bank situation, I think everybody's just a little wrong, but here I think it's you. Really?

Not your son, I guess. Maybe it'll become him if he decides to make the same choice. I try to bring this guy. He's a fan of yours. He couldn't believe you were coming to town. Really? Yeah, he wanted to meet you. and so hello, hello from my son. He's got a football game right now. Okay. It's his first ever game. So I'll leave here and I'll go right.

They call it a jamboree, but I'll go, I'll go straight to the game. But he does, he does say hello. He wanted to be part of this. Do they have food there? I don't know. It's my first one. First one, we've played flag football. I don't have like, I don't know how Oregon is.

Like a hot dog or something. No. And Gatorade. No, it's out of school. And so that gets weird how you got to permit it so that that truck can pull in. I wish they would. They just stand outside. That's what they do in L.A.

You figured out the permitt or whatever they have to get. Best food you'll get is street food. Mexican. He tastes good, but it'll make you horribly sick. Yeah, sure. I mean, there's risks with everything. That's true. No, but it's not a risk.

You know it. Yeah. You saw that Normagamato got knocked out earlier? I saw that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A bit of a surprise. You're happy about that?

No, no. Heavens, no, I wasn't happy about it. But there's really no tyranny quite like predictability. and I only bring that to you because if you've seen one of those guys fight, then they all fight the same. And so, you know, you're going to strike a little bit until you come into a takedown, and the takedown isn't going to be like a blast double, like St. Pierre, by example, it's going to be more of a clinch and a body lock.

And I only share that if you get enough footage on anybody, a top guy is likely to beat him. The top guys get beat. He's likely to beat Normagamadov? Yeah, well, just any. But any top guy that's done it enough time, so there's a good guy. enough video that somebody that understands the game can sit and study enough. If you can watch anybody enough, then the predictability factor is really there. And fighting notes so much an

element of surprise. And I only say that like what, what Nirmagamatov did, it wasn't a surprise. This is good. This is good defense. Yeah. Well, no. Oh, you're doing it. You're there. I think he came out because you were insulting him. I think that's Caleb Mananov. No, no, no insult. I was analyzing him. You were insulting his cousin.

I was analyzing. Yeah, but it came off like an insult. I'm sure they're not happy. He just got knocked out. Well, you know, sometimes you've got to deal with that. You know, you're a wolf, but sometimes you got a bigger wolf. What does that mean, by the way? What is what a now?

What now mean? You seem to understand it, but I didn't. Well, I think he's saying what now, like, what should we do now? I thought he was saying want to now. Like kind of like want to now. Like you want to fight now. But I didn't really get it. He was saying what now?

I don't know. You were just asking you where he was basically? Like what's now? I assumed. Maybe he's actually a great philosopher. Yeah, he could be. Assuming he was, you never answered his question. What now?

What now? Well, I would, you know, you got to get off your back. You can't win a fight from your back. You got to get up. No, but maybe he's not asking about fighting. He's asking what is now. Yeah, sure, but aren't I suggesting for you? It's a much greater question.

I don't know. I mean, isn't that largely what I'm suggesting? I don't know. Why would you attack somebody asking you that question instead of telling him that? You lost control a little bit. Yeah, I did. I got angry. I'll try to calm down.

I don't know what now. We'll learn from him. We'll learn from him. You're not willing to enter his guard? No. Is that a guard? Something. Is it?

Do you want me to enter? What now? Do I enter your... Could be interesting. It could be interesting. I could be interesting. I'm going to pass for now, but thank you. But thank you.

I hope he's getting a good workout. Did you know in Borderlands, too, if you travel to Kosti Caverns and make your way towards the end of the map, you can find a Minecraft Easter Egg with creepers you can kill for special cosmetics? Yeah, I did know that. Oh, you did?

Did you find that out yourself? Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Okay. The four of you, if this goes bad, you understand, I will dismantle all four

You do you understand that? I wasn't trying to offend you with the cost of coverage question. I'm just curious if you knew that. Sometimes guys don't know that. Sometimes guys don't know that and they get a little bit froggy. And you can get froggy, you just can't do it in Oregon. I will take a lot of things, but I can't take an order. You're saying you would fight us yourself one on four, you would call people to do

in Oregon. I will take the four of you apart. I think that you know that. But you know, this guy's, he's going to... Are you mad about Kaleeb's behavior or are you mad? I am not mad. I am sharing. This is a disclosure.

much like I gave to the banks before I had to rob 12 of them. Okay. Eventually. Well, that's probably why you got caught. You shouldn't give a disclosure to the bank. Like there's some people you offer a fight to. Okay. There's other guys don't offer them a fight because they'll take it.

He seems ready to take it. I understand that. I understand that. What I'm just sharing. Seems like you're somebody who doesn't want to take fights. If the group of you is aware that if I engage him, I'm just going to assume you're involved. I'm not involved. This guy's getting a sidekick.

This guy's getting a plate over his head. He seems like a nice guy. He's in earrings. Come, I don't want to people. A guy with earrings. He doesn't have you. Hey, hey, right? With this.

Come on. I was just wondering if you knew that. What now? Is he okay, this guy with the... Khalib? Yeah, no, it was a good performance. It just, is he all right? I think he wanted to fight you.

Does he feel like a fool? Why would he feel like a fool? He just challenged you to a fight. He kind of, he kind of, he kind of hump the carpet for a while and kept saying. something that we couldn't understand. I understood it. Well, I understood what he was getting towards. I didn't understand it fully.

Can he get girls that way? Like, I could go into a club if I wanted to and they go, hey, you're chale. Like, does anyone walk up to him and go, you're that guy? They go up to and say, hey, your chel? No, you know, you're the guy that hump the ground and said, want to know, like, want to hang out later?

Probably not. Probably like a really autistic white dude would recognize him at like a weird convention and ask for a photo. That's... But probably not any women. That's a very, that's a very realistic answer by you. Do you think famous people should paint themselves green when they're in public so nobody notices them?

Yeah, that's what I keep saying. Have you ever tried to say that? Yes. You're not like the most famous person in the world, but you're pretty famous. For Oregon, in Oregon standards, but no, I hear what you're saying. Yes, I keep saying they should have to paint themselves green. They shouldn't have to, but it seems like a good idea. No, they should have to.

It should be forced. They should have to. Yes. But then if they have to, then it won't work as a trick anymore. Right. Well, I think it should be mandated. If you don't do it and you pass them, we should be able to go right up to them. But you're saying them

if you're not one of them You would have to be green too Yeah That's right That just evens things out Man I used to go out I'd have like ripped t-shirts On and things like this

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Did you know you can bring a gun to the airport as long as it's under 700 calories? No I saw a sign on the way here when I was flying here He said the guy is okay to bring as long as it's under 700 cal Wow Oh I see Hmm I would not suggest you try that

It's allowed to take a go to the airport But you just got to check it You got to check the guy That's if it's over 700 calories If it's over 700 calories That's right Yes Or has more than 11 max

What did the airplane actually be much safer It's kind of like the school argument with the teachers If everybody had a gun Yeah Because then if there's one terrorist and everybody just starts shooting fire out each other, everybody will end up safe in the end. Besides the terrorist, that's exactly how it would go. It would be a guess.

I mean, it would be a guess. We wouldn't actually know. I mean, that would be an experiment. But in theory, it would seem that if more people had gus, than the guy with the gus definitely loses power. I wouldn't understand that. But on an airplane. Yeah.

On an airplane specifically. Yeah, no, I hear you. I don't really get the airplane thing. I got to tell you. If I was on one of those planes, you know, I was a terrible spot, but me and my buddy would have taken control back of that plane. You would have stopped 9-11? Yeah. I don't get it.

You got some poor guys with a box cutter. So you all sit down, you call home, you know this is the end. Did he not have a gun? Did they not have a gun? They just had a box cutter? Four or five box cutters. Oh, I thought they had guns. They were just poor guys yelling in a language that wasn't told their understood.

They made them pick up a phone and call home. Hey, we're going to die. We're going to die. We're going to die. They knew they were going to die. But they would rather. dying a fiery crash then face a box cutter.

Maybe everybody on the plane was just inoperative and they knew that it had to go down. Man, there's times you got a man up. Not everybody has that in them. Not everybody is. It's very sad. I know. It was a national tragedy.

For sure. For sure. By the way, the Khabib, does he come back in at some point and apologize to me? Kalib, Manov? Uh-huh. Does he come in?

Gohani. Sorry, I was being a weird dude. You should apologize to him. You were talking shit about his cousin. You say, look at his cousin, he got knocked out. But you said, would you like to enter his guard? Was that a guard? What made that a guard?

Because he was on his back? He would have submitted you, I think. I understand that. But I'm just saying, if he had a guard, what made it a guard? He does Sambo, I think, right? Don't be funnier than me. He does Sambo, I think, comma, right? That's good work.

That's funny. Three protect you, the rest hunch you down. He does Sambo, I think. Dard Vader, Terminator. Okay. Punisher, Deadpool, 10 crocodiles, Red Power Rangers,

Michael Jackson, Larry Lobster. Well, easily, Deadpool is the leader of that bunch. To protect you? Just the,

he used the top one. So what were the three categories? No, the rest, three protect you, the rest hunts you down. Okay, so three to protect me.

I definitely want Deadpool protecting me. Ten crocodiles. I don't want the crocodiles. I don't like their form of communication. There's ten of them. Yeah, I feel that.

that Darth Vader though would do better with with communication. They'll outnumber them. Yeah. I understand that, but I just, I got to tell you, I'm not, you know, and then they got to be in the water and they sleep a lot and, you know, they hump their sister. I'm not into a crocodile. I don't really want them on my team.

You know, there's an easy way to defeat them. You throw sand into their mouth. Have you ever seen those videos? No. They can't stand it? No, they can't. You take a shovel and you smash them on the head, so they open their mouth to train you, and you throw sand in their mouth.

And then they get upset because they know you've... I want to see a video. Kind of insulted them. Okay. But then what happens? Like they're doing one of these things. They're trying to get the sand out of their mouth or it poisons them? Like, why does that stop them?

It's disrespectful. Then they leave. Yeah, it's disrespectful as hell to throw sand in an alligator's mouth. A shovel worth of sand. It's like two pounds of sand. Can I tell you something that happened to me last night and I am so disappointed? Someone threw sand in your mouth? Worse, much worse.

Shit. The lion is not the king of the jungle. As a matter of fact, it is believed in arguments that a tiger would kill a lion. How disappointing is that? It's argued that a pack of wolves would kill a lion. I think you're trying to just insult Tito because didn't he say that whole thing where he's the king of the jungle? He's like a lion or something? Yeah, man. I'm a real lion.

You're trying to sneak it in there. I know what you're doing. No, but I'm from Wesleyan High School. We are the lions. No, he's the king of the jungle. He can be the king of the jungle. But I am not disrespecting a lion. I thought the lion was king.

I truly am. We are the lions. But yeah, I found out all sorts of things could be a lion. It's very disappointing. Is it racist to not have a black mother? That's brilliant. Did John get asked, did Kyriaku get asked these things? Much worse.

We had him, we had him hurt somebody. Did he really? You asked him these things? Yes. You don't respect him because he was in the CIA? You asked him these things? This isn't disrespectful. This is very interesting questions that you wouldn't be asked anywhere else.

Yeah, okay. All right. You're giving a much more interesting, thought-provoking experience. Okay, but hold on. As opposed to like talking to, I don't know, Ariel Helwani or something. You really did ask Kiriococati? That kind of a question. I thought you said you watched it.

I watched some of the video. I didn't see the entire, the entire piece. If you watched one minute, you would know that I asked him stuff just as re-shaded as that. Okay. Is it racist to not have a black mother? I'm going to say no. What if she's made of blocks like you just said? Blocks to have a block mother.

Yeah. No, I'm going to say no. And can I tell you why? That would be pretty cool, though. Yeah. You could assemble her like a Lego? Yeah. That'd be nice.

I'm being immortal. You can take her down. Yeah. Can you help him? He's not really succeeding. It's kind of taking him. a long time. Oh, were you working on a block mother?

You're doing good. What's this? Can I see this? I don't want to break it. Is that a spider? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I think that's his mother. I think it's a spider.

No, I believe that's his mother. Well, it's got eyes and a mouth and eight. Legs, arms. Finish what you're saying. No, I will tell you why, though. I will justify this ridiculous argument. I will justify it because when I was growing up, now you're too young for this,

but when I was growing up, it was never a racist. There was an option. You are racist or ignorant, but they would always put them together. Never, ever, ever would you go, he's a racist. They would say he's a racist or he's ignorant.

Because a lot of times it was just the guy that was ignorant where the guy goes, oh, I hadn't thought about it like that. Okay. I don't have that stance. But both of those were tied in to another word, which was prejudiced. I would grift as ignorant. Which was to mint pre-judge.

So you were not, when I was growing up, you were not called a racist unless the way out was ignorance, but it all was to lead to prejudice, which is to prejudge. So if you did not prejudge somebody, which I don't think you would prejudge your mother, whether or not she was black. So I'm going to say no. Well, what an intelligent answer. We're not asking. What a brilliant answer by you.

You're misunderstanding. We're not asking if your mother would be racist for not being black. Right. Would I be? Would you be racist? If she's not black. Yeah. That was the question.

And I'm saying no. The answer is no. because I would not have pre-judged that. I give a very sophisticated answer. That was pretty good an answer. It wasn't bad. I should have saved that for somebody else. I'm trolling a troll.

Like, this is a hard role that I'm in, right? This is a hard... Well, no, I like the answer. I feel like I'm doing the dance. Yeah. I don't want you to come out here for nothing. We're doing the dance. Yes.

What a beautiful set. This is like the set that a poor man would have. Are these sheets like from your bed? A poor man? Yeah, like a poor man. You know how expensive these calls to get up? No. Uh-uh.

I had to get the biggest piece of shit building to fit this inside. of ever. People think this is a low quality thing. I had to make sure there's like how long to this take? Do you make good money doing this? He makes good money from me doing this. Are you rich? He's rich. All right. Would you be upset if you turn into a burger? Yeah, I'd be furious. No, you wouldn't. Yes, I would. It's a tree question. Somebody would would eat me. You wouldn't be upset. You know what happens after they eat you? Like, you know, ultimately you're asking me if I turn into somebody's, no, I don't. No, I don't. I don't don't want to be a burger. You're wrong though. I'm a gangster.

No. Yeah, I would be upset. No, you wouldn't. Why? How would you be upset? You're a burger. It's a trick. Yeah. I guess there's no brain. So I wouldn't know you're saying? All right, fine. Well, why wouldn't you know? Obviously, if you turn into a burger, I'm assuming you still have some sort of conscious thing. So you would be upset then, probably. I would be upset if I knew I was going to turn into a burger. Yes. I would say, I don't want to turn into a burger. No, you turned into one. I didn't ask if you knew you were going to. That makes it easier to know you don't. be upset. Yes.

And I wouldn't have the ability to be upset. Fine. Fine. But I'm asking obviously assuming, I mean, it's a stupid question. Otherwise, it would be a trick to ask it the other way. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still going with no.

All right. I mean, I'm still going with yes. Yes. Yes, I would be upset. But you wouldn't be because you wouldn't know. How would you know what old Shale would be? Wouldn't this? Wouldn't I be the final say in this?

I say, I would be upset. That's it. No, that's not how that works at all. Why? You could have a say. It would just be wrong because you would be a burger. By the way. You wouldn't have a say at that point.

Otherwise, I'm sure you'd be upset. Maybe you'd be happy. I don't want to make a thing about this, but I came in and I asked for something to drink. Yeah. Do you not have Coke? Is there no Coca-Cola back here? You don't have Mountain Dew? We're healthy.

You went to the store and you bought water. But the water's in a faucet. You don't have to buy water. That's a professional fighter. But they... But a bottle of water? Yeah. Just get a cup and get it out of the sink.

Why would you buy water? It'll make you gay to drink it out of the sink. A plastic bottle. No, that'll turn you into a bottle. All right. Okay. How would you know? It happened before.

They did tests on it. Oh, because it happened before. That's good. All right. Professor Alex. You familiar with his work? No. He's down in Austin, I believe.

Really? Truly? Yes. What's his last name? Jones. Is it true that you don't have to pay your lawyer if they go missing? Well, I will tell you this. And you might find this funny.

You do not ever have to pay a lawyer. You don't have to ever pay anybody. I'm sure a lawyer would be really excited to hear that. A lawyer is the one that told my friend this. Now, this is disappointing. I look down on my friend. My friend is totally wrong. But my friend was in this thing.

It was in a dispute with his manager, MMA fighter, very famous MMA fighter. I'll keep his name. I got to keep his name out of it. So he goes to the lawyer. The first initial letter and the last initial letter and the ones in between? You'll want this point. You'll want this point.

Okay. The lawyer tells my friend, because my friend owes the money. He's like, look, we got a contract. You got a deal. You shook his hand. Your word's good or not. And my friend goes, yeah, but what if? What if I just don't pay him?

So the lawyer's going to go, okay, so you're going to be wrong. You're willing to be wrong. My friend goes, yeah, but what if? What happens? The lawyer goes, well, you don't have to pay your bills in America. It is not a crime anywhere to not pay a bill. My friend, because of that speech, didn't pay the lawyer. Stip the lawyer, and when the lawyer came after the money, he goes, hey, you told me yourself,

I don't have to pay bills. Did he end up having to pay him? No, he stiffed him. He stiffed him. And then the lawyer lived in some other states, and my friend had learned about putting liens and property liens And so the lawyer wasn't qualified to do it. No, he stripped him. He sent him a bill.

I think he said might have a tough time getting a loan from the bank. Hey. But the bank doesn't have any money anymore. He told me this story. And then a couple of years later tried to borrow money from me. I can't borrow money to a guy that bragged about not paying money back. Why didn't the lawyer just ask to borrow money from him and then do the same thing? Sure.

Sure. Maybe that was a little too obvious. Yeah. How many dogs do you think you would be able to defeat it once? Assuming obvious. Obviously, this is like a fight, like a sanctioned fight. Yeah. Yeah, I understand.

Somewhere deep in Russia, probably. They used to do this with gorillas. This came out like a year ago. A person versus 100 guerrillas or something. No, it was 100 people versus the gorilla. I think the number was more like, you only need like, I think, between 10 and 30 people to defeat the gorilla. I'd want to be first. All these guys said they sit and they'd lay back and wait until the gorilla was tired.

I'd jump on that grill. Man, I'd jump up his ass. He would have to do a damn thing, man. I think actually, even if you have. had 40 people and you only needed 30 if somebody like you immediately jumped at the gorilla, that would probably completely destroy the odds that would be in the

favor of the humans versus the gorilla, because the gorilla would rip you in half, and then everybody would be horrified. I watched a gorilla fight a wolf yesterday, a pack of wolves, and the gorilla had a very hard time. I mean, ultimately he got tired, but the fight got called off, but I mean, he

had a hold of a wolf. Like, they said that a gorilla grabbing, he'll just pull you apart. It's like, well, he was pulling on this wolf and nothing happened. I can tell you that. Then he started bashing him on the ground. The wolf jumped up and ran away repeatedly. I mean, it was like five different times this gorilla and this. And he was, I don't know, man. I don't know.

I got to tell you, I whipped that gorilla's ass. Do you remember when this was going around? I'm sure you're famous enough as a fighter to get that to happen somewhere in the world if you really want to try it out. I'll fight the gorilla. They used to have this thing called Bingo the Wrestling Bear. It was at a bar in Stillwater, Oklahoma. And $500 to pin Bingo the Wrestling Bear.

My coach, Mark Schultz, not only pinned the bear, he choked the bear out. Mark Schultz choked that bear out and the bear let out had grown and the mark turned him over and pinned him and they refused to pay him The borriner didn't have the money. He didn't think anyone was gonna win what was the IMDB rating It wasn't videoed. This was like in-house only, but there was enough people there to spread the legend Are you saying this was real? I thought you meant this was like an episode of the show Bingo the wrestling bear. He was a real bear. They brought him in and they put like a muzzle on it and they like covered his hands then you could go out there and wrestle him Mark Schultz who was the Olympic champion took the challenge and you're making this up on this is actually very impressive I could not make stuff up like this just quickly.

This is real. Mark Schultz is one of these guys that I look up to. He was the Olympic champion. His brother is very famous. His name was Dave Schultz. He got killed by the billionaire John DuPont. I don't know if you remember that. John DuPont murdered a guy and then went and hid in his house.

But John DuPont had a tank and he had trained the snipers for the very police department that's like trying to get him. So they were all scared. They all stayed outside the house. They thought like DuPont was going to pick him off. It turned out DuPont was crazy and had no idea they were even out there. But anyway, this is all Schultz, and he pinned Bingo the wrestling bear. And I'm only sharing with you, if Mark Schultz can choke a bear out, me and a hundred of my friends will whip that gorilla's ass. Yeah, but you said the bear had a muzzle on and his hand recover.

It changes the story a little bit, right? Yeah, because there's not a fight to the death. But either way, if there was a position, because everybody just argues it's the strength, the strength of the gorilla. St. Pierre, like, went out and saw these things and the solar back gorilla. I'll kick that silverback gorilla right in his nuts. I'll poke his eyes out. I would kill that gorilla. I would kill the gorilla.

If I can get 1% of the money, this generates on like, yeah. Whatever the, I don't know what the website's called, where they show horrible go-should videos. Sure. I will help set this up. And you could definitely do this somewhere in Russia or like China, something like that. Have you ever seen f-as-of-death?

What's that? Oh, f-f-as-a-d-all-right. So, again, this came out about two years before you were born. It was just actual where people ran around and had videos of people dying, and then they put it together into a movie but it was real like a guy stepped in front of a train and this guy got hit by a bus security cameras picked it up

it was real it was actual death and they filmed it and put it I never would have watched had I known what I was getting into I mean it warped me for life and this is well over 30 years ago right at 30 years ago Frizzles of death

and they put out like three of them and then the government even came in and banned them you can't find this movie anymore there used to be movie stores you're also too young to know that but they pulled them off the shelf It was, it was.

They put these physical discs in like Blockbuster. That's exactly what I was going to say, Blockbuster. I don't know if you would remember that. Yes, 100%. I think that was around, right around when I was born probably for a couple of years later. And this is before Netflix. This is before, no matter what you hit. Well, now you can for sure final videos.

I'm sure all of those compilations are just online. They're probably on Twitter right now. Yeah, you're probably right. Elon would probably pay you to watch it. Yeah, it's hard to hide that stuff. Have you met him? Elon, no. but I respect him

you know for somebody so busy it's very impressive how good he is at playing video games It's unbelievable It's unbelievable That man is so impressive in terms of And by the way Who thought that he would be a culture warrior for the U.S.? You've got a guy from South Africa

You actually are being serious Oh man I've been blown away I have been blown away by him And one thing about him when he breaks things down And he was doing this with rockets many years ago But he was beating NASA And he was beating NASA badly. And it was just the way that he broke it down.

Like what some of those metals and things cost were so high that if you didn't have government funding, you're just going to do it. And Elon cut all those prices by a third. And they're saying, how? How are you getting people to sell to you? And Elon goes, who's going to buy from them? These guys don't control the market. There's nobody out there turning to build rockets. I don't know if I even do this is more impressive than becoming the greatest player at Diablo.

Do you know how hard that is to do? Yeah. The last time I mentioned a video game to you, you started threatening the hurt. everybody in the building for whatever reason. I was just sharing. To become the greatest player in the world. Things about each other. I thought you should know I have a 38 in my boot.

That's the whole reason I wear a boot. I thought you should know that I have a switch. But I just thought that you should know this. I wasn't threatening with it. I was letting you know. Why would you need a switchblade to deal with us? I feel like you don't need that really. That's exactly right.

That's exactly right. And see, that's where things get ugly. That's the problem. When somebody makes that reach, right? It's like my father told me you don't ever pull a gun unless you're ready to kill the guy. And I've never been ready. I don't want to hurt anybody. Right.

This guy's got some silverware and this guy's plainly. It's a thing. I just, I didn't know what I was walking into. I'm just letting you know you're in the presence of a gangster. You should know that. You should know that. You should know that. You should know that.

You should know that. You eat with your hands. No. Hey, hey, hold on. You got to hear this. You know Armand-Seroquian? Yeah. Okay.

Do you know Sniko? You do? I had them both on my show. Okay. I don't know how this came about. Somewhere, Armand just starts giving advice to Sneko about getting girls. And Armand tells them, because they read like a Starbucks, and Sneco got like, you know, something with apple cider and matcha. And then it was like sprinkles on top with some whipped cream, whatever it was.

And Armand told him, if you ever with a girl, you get coffee black or you get two shots of espresso black, no matcha, no. no sprinkles. Like he says it like this. Like he's just, no, macha. And then he tells him when it's time to order, you order meat, no sides. When the meat comes, medium rare. And when it comes, you eat with hands and sneak go. I just want to say real quick, I like how you're confusing sneako for another guy because

they're both brown and you probably don't even know what the other guy is because this wasn't just sneaker. I had the foggiest idea. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Neon. His name's neon. Okay.

I like how you confuse that though. Easily confused. One word. Yes. Okay. So neon then says, you know, like, I can do it. Like, hey, thanks for the advice, Armand.

I get the steak medium well. And Armis says, no, medium rare. And Steve goes, well, but I like it medium well. And Armin slams his hand down and goes, it does not matter what you like. This is too impressed girl or you're never going to get girl. It was one of the great things that has ever been picked up on a live stream. And if Armand Sarukian would just please, please do a little segment each week of giving guys advice on how to get a girl, it was one of the great things I've seen. If you were to fight long neck, what would be the most effective move considering he's a black belt in boxing?

Yeah, I saw him. Yeah. Consider that. Well, it's a long neck, but it's a muscular neck, by the way. No, it's not. I thought, man, I felt like he had good power in that neck. Let alone, on his neck on his whole body. A little bit of traps right here.

I thought he looked like he had a, I thought like he looked like he secretly had a strong neck. I really, I really did think that. But what would the best way to beat him be? Probably just get a hold of him. Get a hold of him. But he's a black belt in boxing. Yes. Well, that's what I'm saying.

Let him use a little of his energy, squirm around. Those boxers, they tend to think twice. Yeah. You know, sometimes you've got to do something to give a guy a little motivation to see it your way. Just grab a hold of him. No need to hurt anybody. Well, that's it. We have to film.

I like that your pro-life though, by the way. Were you nervous to, are you going to edit that out? Do you not want people to know that? The pro-life part? Yeah. No, I say that I'm very. scared to put that out. I'm pro,

uh, I've talked about it actually a bunch. I'm pro-yugenics. Sure. We had this. Which is sort of pro-life if you think about it. But like not pro-Eugenics in the way that less people choose it. Like pro-like government forced eugenics,

forcing, I guess, people like your wife to have children. Okay. All right. All right. I get it. I get it. I will tell you this. We just had right here in Oregon.

And we have some things that are just confusing where you'll hear somebody's politics and you know just turn your head to the sign and think what like it'll be it'll be so out there it's hard to respond to but we just had a thing in Oregon I mean we just jutt three weeks ago and they were going to ban all hunting and fishing and one thing that we're we're very proud of in the northwest is is our ability to hunt and fish right I mean we've got the oceans we've got the forest we got another few mountains that you can go ski on we have a little bit of everything great campgrounds and hiking very low crime like there's things that we're proud of sounds like a horrible dangerous place yeah but that's one of our our things

though. Like, you know, if you're in the northwest, you know, that's one of the things. You can go out and catch your own supper that night. At any rate. So they try to pass this thing to where you couldn't do that anymore. It's just bad for the fish. You know, hey, this poor fish has to die or this deer has to die. And, but we are one of the most pro-choice states in America. And I've never understood how you reconciled that. How do you save the fish and justify killing the baby? If I was to play the contrarian, I feel like there's a really easy answer to that.

Please tell me. I would genuinely like to hear and I'm not afraid to be wrong. Tell me something. Because they're transgender. Keep going. Help me out. That's the answer.

Think about it. I'm trying. I'm trying. I can't tell if you're because I would, I've asked them on the streets. They were taking petitions and I stopped saying, excuse me, I'm not trying to start an argument. How do you reconcile these two things?

And it was stunning to me. Now, you'll get a guy like me that's extremely pro-life, but for the death penalty. So I get that there's a, sometimes there's contrarian views, but that one is, that one has always stumped me. Okay, well, that's it. We have to film with Longneck now. He's the next guest. Is he here today?

Yeah. I'd love to meet Longneck. We threw him out to Wesleyan. I mean, after the show, you can show him around, maybe give him some training. How are we going to do? Was the show good? I want to do big numbers. I'm seeing your numbers. I think that was great. Are we going to do a million? A billion? Do we have enough hot spots? Do we get enough stuff in here? I mean, I'll fight Kabib if it helps, if it helps with the radius.

We can bring him back out if you'll fight him. I will fight him. If it helps with the ratings, if it's good for ratings, me and Khabibh are getting into it. Please bring out Kaleeb Mananov. You're saying his name wrong. What is it? Caleb Mananov or something. We're saying the same thing.

No. You said Kaleeb and I'm saying Khabib. It's basically the same thing. I think you're getting it wrong. Can we get out, Kali, please? Khalid, we got to make sure that we get enough ratings here because we're in competition with perhaps Alex Jones. So if you could just go down.

All right. You ask me, do I want it now? The answer is yes. I want it now. Okay. You have shaking. It's required. Okay, there you go. I was thinking of a... Okay, that's good? That's good?

Yes. Yes. What do we do if we get a submission? Do, like, do you know enough about this to tap?