The Matan Show - Cliffe & Stuart Knechtle Heated Debate vs Black Israelites

Episode Date: December 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have a special episode, a Christmas special. It's going to be Cliff and Stuart Netschel, we're seeing three black Israelites. First, welcome Captain Baba Jammich and his friend, I don't know, Professor Slamgo, along with Commander Bert. Why's the white man always in the way? That's disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:00:28 That's a nice decoration. And for today's co-host, we have my manager, ViroFlooring. Where is he sitting? Just know that that white man, Santa Claus, has a lot more money than you. Okay, so first we will let Cliff and Stewart introduce themselves, and then we will let Captain Tezazzo-Yak make his introduction, along with his sidekick, yupp, you're right. right. You can just call me the black.
Starting point is 00:00:59 So if you guys introduce yourselves real quick. What do you want to know about us, Don? Just I guess obviously this is sort of a Christian versus Israelite episode. So if you guys want to introduce yourselves in case anybody doesn't know you all, that one, maybe what you guys believe in. Okay. I am Cliff Kineckley and I'm a follower of Jesus Christ because the historical evidence of the way Jesus lived.
Starting point is 00:01:21 In other words, the way he treated people. Secondly, because of what he taught ethically. Thirdly, because of the way he died, loving and forgiving his enemies. And fourthly, because of his resurrection from the dead, that's why I'm convinced that Jesus is reliable and it's wise to put your trust in him. We speak on college campuses across the country and do a lot of debating on this kind of stuff. A lot of politically incorrect debating like you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So I think we're on the same page. I don't know. I'll let them introduce for themselves. I think they probably have sort of a similar position on that. They just care to make it clear that Jesus is black or something. I don't know. Well, I don't think I agree with what he was saying. I first want to highlight I'm the most famous person on the platform.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Thank you for bringing the black back. Keep that in there. I'm Captain Tizaliyak of ISU-B-K. You want to introduce yourself? Hey, Shalom, what's going on? I'm Captain Katzai, ISU-P-K, under commanding general. The Santa Kicker. He's the Santa Kicker.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yeah. You guys just keep changing your names, huh? No, we don't change the names. Right. Right. That's the name. That Commander Bert. What's the name, Commander Bert?
Starting point is 00:02:30 You're right. You right. Y'all might have recognized him from CB4. Yeah. And I'm black, y'all. And I'm black y'all. And I'm bliggily black. That's him.
Starting point is 00:02:39 He's going to be great. So I guess, you know. He's on the right side. Yeah. I mean, he's in Israel. So this is a little bit of a festive episode. This is the Christmas special. I guess for you guys, it's like Kwanza or something.
Starting point is 00:02:50 He's not an Israeli. Yeah. So I guess maybe you want. I want to start with Christmas, tell everybody, because I know they, I don't know if they celebrate that. Christmas? Yeah, Kwanza. Nah, we don't celebrate Kwanza.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Why have we got to celebrate Kwanza? You know, because you guys are from Africa? Kwanza wasn't even started by an African. It was a black man in Chicago. That's the same thing. No, it's not. Africans and white people are not the same people. Yep, you right.
Starting point is 00:03:14 See that? Yep, you right. He chanted. Listen, he felt that in his soul. I don't want to be African either. Neither do I. Yeah, so I guess. I'll lead it to you guys.
Starting point is 00:03:23 now about Christmas I guess thoughts on it thoughts on Christmas yes well Jesus was not born on December 25th that was a holiday that's celebrated in different cultures and it was embraced by Christians but the point of Christmas is that the supernatural God chose
Starting point is 00:03:39 to become a human being his name Jesus and he lived a sinless life he taught amazing teachings he died on a cross and he rose from the dead hey and we celebrate his birth God became a human being can I ask a question yeah you said superman You say he, the supreme God chose to be a man?
Starting point is 00:03:57 The supernatural God chose to become a man, yes, sir. So God died? God in human form as a man died on a cross. God in human form. God can die? God limited himself and became a human being, and as a human being, he died. It doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible. Oh, it says it all over the Bible.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Where does it say he limited himself into a human being? Felish Pians Chapter 2, Have this attitude in yourselves, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he exist in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking upon himself. No, you're not God, and I'm not God. No, no, think about what you said. He said, have this attitude in you. Now, I asked you to show me where God did that. Paul said for us to have the same attitude as Christ, who thought it not robbery to be equal with God. So I should think like that. You better learn to read in context, sir. You keep going through that passage, and it says, he existed in the form of
Starting point is 00:04:53 God and did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking upon himself the form of a bond servant. So if we can take that same mind state, then we can't do the same thing. No, we can't. I cannot be eternal. If you don't like Harvey Epstein, you'd be in jail too. No, but that doesn't mean I act like him. That doesn't mean I act like him.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I can think like him, but there's a difference between being. It also certainly doesn't make me him. I don't become that person. When they show the pictures with him with. I don't know what you're talking about. Point to them. one zero so far. I don't know what you're talking about, but you guys can continue.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I just want to, because I'm going to get points throughout this debate along with the other moderator. You messed up with that point. Because that verse, just the last point on it, that verse says, let this mind be in you. So when it says thought, not robbery, to be equal with God, that's the mind state we're supposed to have. We're supposed to
Starting point is 00:05:43 follow that mindset, correct. But it's about Christ who really was God, who humbled himself and became a human being. He's the eternal God. Does Christ have a God? No, he's the journal god in john 21 and 25 christ said i go to my father and your father my god and your god christ said he has a god out of his own mouth so how can he be god if he got a god because he's god the son humbling himself taking upon himself you just said he don't have a god man if you're asking questions
Starting point is 00:06:07 you don't listen to the answer what's going on i did listen to no you didn't you cut me off so what's going on so i'll do it again does christ have you listen okay i listen the first the first thing you said was christ did not have a god that's what you said and then when i quoted the verse where he said he goes to his father and his God, then you said he's God the son. I listened to you clearly. Good. Now let me say it again, so you can hear it more clearly. Okay. Jesus is the eternal God, God the Son, who humbled himself, as we looked at Philippians chapter 2. I quoted it for you. So he humbled himself and became a human being.
Starting point is 00:06:39 As a human being, he died. As a human being, he ascended back to his father in heaven. That's the mystery of the incarnation. He humbled himself and became a human being. Yes, sir. I heard everything that you said. Good? You said, God, the Son. Yes? Is God the Son a title in the Bible? Or is the Son of God the title in the Bible?
Starting point is 00:07:01 That's used at times? Yes, the Sun. I've never seen God the Son. I've only seen Son of God. So, would you say that in Heaven right now, is Jesus God in Heaven right now? Yes, sir. He sure is.
Starting point is 00:07:13 What does Son of Man mean? You haven't seen Son of God. What is Son of Man? Son of Man is worse. Daniel Chapter 7. that's the prediction of the son of man coming the son of man is worse because to be a son of man you have to be the son of a man no son of man so jose it agreed across civilization you you finish your point but thank you i don't know where you're going ezekiel is called son of man too
Starting point is 00:07:35 but before we get into the son of man argument you said in heaven he was never he never referred to us i was a son of man you said in heaven Jesus is god is it the father sitting on the throne or jesus sitting on a throne nobody's sitting on a throne there's no throne that's symbolic language God is a spirit. And as a spirit, he's not sitting on a throne. That's a lie. No, it's not. It's the truth.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And Daniel 7 and 9, it said the ancient of days had willy hair and did sit. He sat on the throne. Yeah, that's symbolic language. And then the son of a man was presented to him. But I mean, take a look at his hat over here. He doesn't have a body. He doesn't understand symbolic language. That's why he dresses like that.
Starting point is 00:08:10 But in heaven, the lamb presented before the man on the throne. Uh-huh. Well, where is heaven? I'm asking you a question. I'm asking you one. Where is heaven? Heaven is where the Lord resides. Where is that?
Starting point is 00:08:22 In heaven, I just answered the question. No, where is heaven? Was my question. It's a dimension. A dimension, okay. There we go. So God is spirit. He's not a physical being.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He's a spirit. We're all spirits, but we also have flesh. So if it says he sat on a throne, he has to have a physical entity. No, he doesn't have to. But don't run from the question. I'm not running. In Revelations, the fourth and fifth chapter,
Starting point is 00:08:44 it describes the throne that the ancient of days is sitting on. It describes. the holies. It describes the beast that scream his name. Holy, holy, holy. They're screaming that to the man sitting on the throne. That is not Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the lamb that opens the seal of the book. That's Jesus Christ. So the man sitting on the throne is God, is the almighty. The one being presented before the throne is the lamb. Body bag. God is, God is spirit. Jesus says very clear in the Bible. So this whole idea that he's sitting on a a throne is a symbolic picture it's a symbolic picture it's all apocalyptic literature you're
Starting point is 00:09:26 literally taking apocalyptic literature and trying to make a point so you're saying in heaven it's so silly i've never heard that from any commentator ever so there's no voices screaming holy holy holy you're saying that's a lie no i'm saying it's symbolic symbolic right so there's no voice singing that Isaiah had a vision of god and that vision was symbolic john i didn't mention Isaiah? Oh, I really don't care, but the Bible talk, because the Bible talks about it. You should say that God be true in every man a liar. You're lying so far. I'm telling the truth. No, sir. We disagree strongly. You can disagree.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Don't mean it's true what you disagreeing about. And you don't have to call me a liar, and I don't have to call you a liar. We can be respectful, okay? I want to take the liar part away, that's fine. Why don't you take it away? I just said, I'll take it away. Good. All you're doing is debating from authority. All you're doing is debating from the Bible. I want to hear what you have to say about
Starting point is 00:10:14 what is son of man contextually who was jesus christ outside of the bible and what are the claims he made and what was heaven i don't think you know an answer to any of these outside of the bible i think you'd like to quote from authority inside the bible and i don't know anybody who debates that way not a single person have we met who debates that way the people who debate that way are people who actually believe in what the bible says absolutely you know what i'm saying like it's the bible is the ultimate thought so when jesus i don't know hold on but what i'm saying is that a couple I don't need anything extra biblically to prove my faith. I believe that that Bible is the Word of God.
Starting point is 00:10:49 When he says he is the door. What is that mean? Here's what you're saying. We take the Bible as authority. You're saying that it's not good enough. Nope. Not what I'm saying is authority totally. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:10:59 You need to read context, just like any other book. That's what I'm saying from the Bible. You can't. He made a good point about the door. I thought that was pretty good. I made that point. Not him. No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm saying you made that. Yeah, yeah. I want to answer. He just started talking about. some white man and stuff and got off talking. Can we get back to that door part? Say again what you said about the door. I said when Jesus says, I am the door.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That's right. Does that mean a couple pieces of plywood slapped together? No. Why not? Because it's a metaphor. Take it literal like Revelation. Take it literal. Who's taking it literal?
Starting point is 00:11:30 I didn't need a lexicon to know it wasn't literal. Why? Why? Because it's called. So you just interpret any old way you want then? No, you interpreted the way God gives you the interpretation. Christ is also the lamb. I don't think he's a lamb laying on here.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Good. It's called common sense. But in the book of revelations, when he's having the visions, there's some things that are metaphor, there's some things that are literal, there's some things that are not. So when it describes what you're seeing
Starting point is 00:12:01 in that crystal, when it describes the Lord's throne, when it describes them screaming his name, the Holy of Holies, and the elders, and them weeping because nobody can open the book. And then the lamb, which is Christ, comes before it. The point is the one that's on the throne, even if you've made it symbolic, there's still symbolically a power on the throne and symbolically a man coming before the power
Starting point is 00:12:24 of the throne to open up the seals. The one on the throne is not the one, excuse me, the one in the lamb is not the one on the throne. The one on the throne is the ultimate power, correct? Sal, what do you think? Yeah, answer. The one on the throne symbolically is the ultimate power. Stuck. bad. Say it. You're stuck. Say it. You're stuck. The one on the throne is the power. Look, they won't say it. You're stuck. You're the one who's stuck. Is the one on the throne the power? Yes and no. How do you determine what's metaphor and what's literal? I'm just asking. Yeah, well, you started earlier saying common sense. You common sense for everybody. We talked to why you can't answer the question. Black, white, brown. It doesn't matter what they are.
Starting point is 00:13:09 They say nothing is just common sense in the Bible. Good job. Good job. Come on. You just debate from authority. That's all you do. Good job setting it up. That's what I'm talking about. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:17 That's what I'm saying. All right. Now, why are all people equally valuable? All people are not equal. Oh, he doesn't believe that. He's a black. I don't care. There's no such thing as equality on the face of the earth.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Who's superior? Israelites are superior. Israelites are superior. It's not even a real. Why do you believe that? I'm going to tell you. Why do you believe that? Because the Bible says it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It's not because we're great in number. It never says the Israelites are superior. The Israelites aren't even a real thing. six says I chose you to be above all nations on the face of the planet and I did not choose you because you were the greatest I chose you because you are the least and that does so the only reason anything about ethnic superiority it means there's a choice right wait wait wait when you say that's not about ethnic himself through them and were they ethnic or not were they ethnic what they were they before you do God created man in his own image in the image of God he created him male and female you said created them when you why didn't you listen sir as well to speak I am listening to you I'm asking you to me.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Genesis 1, 27 and 28, we're creating the image of God for all of us, which means all human beings have equal value and dignity because we're all created the image of God. That's why white is not superior to black, black is not superior to white. He said that he's the least, so what he's saying, are you the least intelligent at the table? Because that's something that I think we could all get behind. You're physically superior, right?
Starting point is 00:14:34 I would say you're physically superior. But now, I want to get back to that. When you said he chose and spoke to Israel, Was Israel ethnic at that point? He's saying you look like LeBron James. He's just saying that because of all black people. And it's crazy. I'm light.
Starting point is 00:14:48 LeBron is dark-skinned. I was going to ask you a typical profile. LeBron is like his complexion. That's how I know you don't know the Bible. You don't even know about LeBron. You don't even know about the Bible. I don't even know. Jesus was black.
Starting point is 00:15:01 No, I don't even know color. Hold on. Let me ask you a question. Your friend here, he's a little bit of a lighter color. Does that mean he's less worthy than you? No, he's right. Why are you thinking he is? That's basically.
Starting point is 00:15:11 He just that's a white man. Body bag. That's a white bag. That's a white man. Are you like an albino? You're some sort of animal. I'm going to tell you something. I think that there's nobody on the planet who wants to be black.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Have you guys ever seen like the horses that are completely white? And that's why if we go to Eastern Parkway, y'all have a whole village where y'all dressed like Run DMC. You know what you're saying? You haven't noticed Jewish people where black head to toe? Right. Because the Jews are black onto the ground. My Adidas. Let me say this, this isn't get there.
Starting point is 00:15:44 This is crazy. My Adidas, that's how you walked through Brooklyn. I've never seen Jewish people act this way. This is the first time I've ever seen Jewish people who act in this way, but it's very interesting. And the kef cans, right? They're trying to count the coins itself, but this is a very different demographic. Why would you need one in ancient Palestine? Yeah, why would you need a hat?
Starting point is 00:16:04 I think you might need one of those in Russia. And I want to highlight something. You're saying Jewish people are not white. white, even though you try to say that's him. I'm not saying that as a compliment to Jewish people. I'm saying it almost as a derogatory thing. But you made a difference in ethnicity. No, I'm saying that he's not Jewish and he's also not black.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Here's the thing. He's also not white. He's at a whole different level. This is a black, black, you know, black. But like, this is like just a, this is a low level. It's like he got unlucky. You know, it sounds offensive to say, but it's like he wants to be Jewish. We don't get offended.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I got one more thing. Hold on. I was going to say he wants to be Jewish, but he's not. He wants to be Jewish, though. Hey, you need to be quiet at some point. He wants to be Jewish, but he's not. He wants to be black, but he doesn't look like it. He wants to be white, but he clearly doesn't have the intelligence. So it's like, what are you some, some sort of horse? Can you talk in your real voice? This is my real voice. Maybe, you know, break character. No, he's good. Maybe this is like, maybe he is like from the Bible, but not as a prophet, like when they're talking about like lambs and stuff. Is he like a lamb from the Bible? Definitely a prophet.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And you want to know how good of a prophet is? He knew you was going to bring up the white angle. Wow. That's a prophet right there. You prophesied that. Jesus is called shepherd and he's also called lamb. It's not a contradiction. So he's a dog?
Starting point is 00:17:27 It's a metaphor of Jesus. He's not a little sheep going around, Baba, and he's not a shepherd taking the sheep. All right, so you've got to be able to interpret fairly. Now, how do you interpret? You interpret by respecting literary style and by reading in context. And when you respect literary style and read in context, you'll come up with an accurate interpretation. If you don't do so, you come off as really ignorant.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Can I add one more level of that? Oh, he has another level too out here. Hold on. Christ said, I'm glad that he kept this from the wise and prudent and gave it to Babe. So would you also add that the Lord has to give you understanding as well? Of course the Lord has to give you understanding. And Babes, that means through humility. Would you admit that that outweighs whatever smartness anybody can have?
Starting point is 00:18:10 on a flat level if the lord give the lord can give anybody understanding we would agree right that's correct and the reason why he made that statement about giving it to keep keeping it from the wise who did you agree with there because he said you right after christ's time the ones that were considered wise thought they knew the bible thought they knew the word of god but they didn't the pharisees the disciples were called what were the disciples were the disciples scholars no they called the the disciples, unlearned men, because they were fishermen. They were men that fished. You fish?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Is that what he's saying? They were not men that read books. So when you try to make this scholastic argument, it falls. He's saying that he knows how it. Because of God, really? Luke wrote the biography of Paul. Was Luke a doctor? No matter how smart or dumb.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Was Luke a doctor? No matter how. They weren't all fishermen, bro. No, it wasn't. But no matter how smart or dumb that you think somebody is. If the Lord does not give them the understanding, it won't matter. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are beautifully written. No, they're not intellectuals, but they're very clear communicators of truth. They don't go blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They don't go
Starting point is 00:19:15 la, la, la, la, la. They use human language to communicate ideas. Jesus is not God. I've been clear. The Bible is clear that Jesus is not God. John 858, Jesus says before Abraham was born, I am. Yeah, because the Jewish people picked up stones to stone him. His divine coming is what he's talking about. What do you mean? Divine coming. What does that mean? Because in the very next chapter, that blind man that he healed said I am ego and I as well that Greek term ego am I say I'm smart too that Greek word ego am I in the very next chapter John 9 and 1 when Christ healed that blind man he makes the same statement so you can't make no he does not you cannot there is nobody that Jesus healed who claimed to be the great I am who I am you cannot you cannot you cannot
Starting point is 00:19:56 make ego am I is so dishonest that standard because ego my is what you scholars like to use to say I'm not a scholar you're the one who said you're the scholar here okay I I'm a chosen, we're not the chosen. You're the chosen. You said, who's what? You're the one who claimed to be a scholar. I'm not a scholar, okay? Listen. You're the chosen, the scholar.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Give my hand. So you're the intelligent. You said you're the intelligent one here, right? I'm not the, I'm not claiming to be intelligent or a scholar. I'm not the intelligent one that I can read a text honestly. And when you read the text honestly, the New Testament claims Jesus is God revealing himself in human form. What verse says it? John 858, John 1030.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He was not saying I'm God. I've already given you a bunch. As a matter of fact, when Peter, when Christ asks Peter, who am I? What did Peter say? Crickets. What did Peter say? Because you're ripping stuff out of context. I'm just asking a question. What passage are you talking about? He said a lot. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out. Peter says, I was specific. Crickets for a reason, man. Christ asks, so I'll say the whole thing then. Christ asks Peter, who do you say I am? Yes. And Peter said, you are the son of God. And Christ said, you are the son of God. And Christ said, Flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my father in heaven. Good.
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Starting point is 00:22:33 He said, son of man, he died as king of the Jews. By the way, he always received worship. Show me one place in the entire Bible, New Testament, where Jesus did not receive worship willingly. And John, when you mentioned something before. Everybody else, angels always said, even angels said, no, we're not God. Paul, everybody tore their clothes.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Anybody ever said, you are God, Silas, even for example. Jesus always accepted worship. No, he did not. Wait, I'm sorry, not the worship, not the worship part. In Matthews 4, Christ said the father is the only one that you shall worship. But on the subject of worship, you're right. A man can receive worship. Does Solomon receive worship?
Starting point is 00:23:15 No, no, no. Well, let's let that respect. Wait, wait, but the Bible says they worship God and the king. They worship God and the king. Did Solomon accept worship? Did he say, I am God? Did he accept worship? So this is First Chronicles 29.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And 20. I can't give me worship is God. Oh, no. Hey, hey, hey, minus the point there. Your, you're just reading a Bible verse. No, no, no, no. You can't pull out the phone. Before you change the subject, on the son of man, on the son of man, being called the son of man.
Starting point is 00:23:46 There's a punishment. I'm going to cut off your point and we're going to move to the next topic. Wait, wait, wait. No, no, you can't because you're trying to cheat over here with your guys. That's reading a Bible verse. You have a white man cheating. He's not white though. Read the Bible first.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That's no, that's no. If he's white, then the Jewish man is white. When I said the Jewish man wasn't white, I wasn't saying it as a good thing. It was derogatory. No matter how you say it, you only basing it off of appearance. Okay, stop interrupting all the time every time somebody talks. When I was saying that he wasn't white, I was also saying it as a derogatory thing. Just to be clear, it was all derogatory, a Jews and that the white man's frame over here.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Does it matter if it's derogatory or not, you're basing it off a skin tone. You see how we say we're not African? Africans have black skin, like black people have black skin, but we're not in the same. I already completely agreed with the idea that he has no behavior of a white man. It's like... He's superior to a white man. In the world of clowns and cuckus. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:43 All the Israelites are. He's an Israelite. I mean, if that makes you feel better to say that... It does. It actually does. I think most people would think that he's like Puerto Rican. Damn. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That's good, man, that's good. Most people would probably think that you're homeless. I'm not, though. I'm not. I'm just saying because of your looking stuff. I mean, this looks homeless? That hat looks like something a homeless person would find and start telling people he found the treasure. I think that if the Jews are all really black, then I think that makes Jewish people wiggins.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Okay, yeah, that's the next topic. Hold on. I was going to ask. I don't even know what he said. But your third question. He'll say it again. for you guys and then they can move into it do you believe Africans are the real Jews no okay we don't either yeah oh but you you see how he's answering
Starting point is 00:25:38 deceptively like what he's doing he's pretending not to be African so we're not pretending come on just answer the question we get it we get it we get here to be a Jew because Africans come from Ham Israelites come from Shim why is he talking about food what is he even talking of okay we'll move on or get to the next top I don't even know what he said. This guy right here, that's for it. That's, oh, my bad. No.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Bert, fix that, please. He was meant to be knocked down. A white man coming into a black man's house is diabolical on Christmas. Considering. Just imagine that. You got to tell little white kids he's coming into your house to give you gifts. Bert? No, or Santa Claus?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Santa Claus. What's wrong with that? So what's the problem? Yeah, it's like a little happy story for kids. Do you celebrate Christmas? I don't celebrate Santa Claus. I celebrate Jesus Christ becoming a- human being. And he was born. That's what we celebrated.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He just said that Christ wasn't born on December 25th. That's right. He wasn't born on December 25th. So that's idol worship. That's breaking the first commandment. Didn't Christ won against the traditions of men? Yeah, worn against the Mark the 7th chapter. The traditions of men, you accept. Christ didn't accept the traditions of men. How do we accept the traditions of men? You celebrate Christmas.
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Starting point is 00:27:33 Jeremiah the 10th chapter. That's an idol. Do we worship it? It's an idol. Yes. We don't worship. We don't get into his house by itself. Do you put the gifts under the tree? We get gifts. Oh, he breaks. Oh, he's a criminal. Come to the chin. Answer the question. No. You're telling me it's an idol. Leading up to the 25th. We think that crown over the wearing is more of an idol than any type This is in the Bible. That's in the Bible. Listen, that's something. That's an idol.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Maybe you want to worship. If you're in the 10th chapter, you take that tree. It tells you the workman cuts down the tree and deck it with gold. And it's not metaphorful. But that's not real gold and you know it. So y'all celebrating Christmas. So what are you doing? You're celebrating Jesus' birthday about putting that idol in there.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You're not real gold. I don't worship this. You said you're supposed to wear. It's a headpiece. And it's not real gold. Remember me by the fern. Remember that your fur. But that's not, that's, that's all fake up there.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Why do you wear that? Let me ask you. It is Ezekiel, I think it's Ezekiel 25. He said to wear fake gold? It's like a METRI, it's, like a headpiece. You can go first magabees when they wore warlike apparel, so we wear a headpiece to scars when we go out and teach like he has the head. Idols were primarily gold exactly like that.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Right. That looks like an idol. Tell me what's an idol about it. Show me, show me biblically. Tell me what's. All you have to do. Everything is either made of gold or silver. Aaron and them dressed.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Aaron and Dem. That is right here. You have this yellow idolatry. We can read Jeremiah to Tim chapter. Have you ever read Jeremiah to Tim chapter? Yeah, sure have. Does it describe that tree? I can promise you.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Does it mean anything? So he said I'm right. It does describe the tree. And you think, yet y'all still put the tree in your house. How much stuff is no one are discounted in the Old Testament into the new? Nothing. Exactly. It's not prescriptive whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:29:21 There's descriptiveness. No, say the statement that you just said. I'm saying it right now. You're not going to let me say it. No, no, I want you to re-say it. I'll get there. You have to let you speak sometimes. Yeah, geez, man.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It's hard speaking to an idol right now. It's called being rude to interrupt. Yeah, yeah. How about that? Don't be a great thing to learn. Don't be a girl. Don't be a girl. Don't you be a girl.
Starting point is 00:29:39 We all be a girl. Let's all talk as men, kind and respectful life. I'm not offended, bro. I'm not offended. I said we're all interrupted. Just don't be a girl's inferior. You made it sound like girls are inferior. Yes, they are.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Girls complain about being interrupted when we all When we're all doing. Girls are inferior, right? Just like white men. Girls are inferior. I just want you to finish. You don't want us to finish. You want to interrupt.
Starting point is 00:30:00 That's what you want to do. Let's be honest. Girls. Y'all keep that white woman like a bimbo. Kids. Y'all don't love white women. Everybody else. Look at the white women you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Look at Donald Trump's wife. Who loves that white woman? What is he's a bimbo? Donald Trump does not love his wife. Y'all don't love your wives. That's why you sleep with men. You know what? It's like when Chad GBT makes an error.
Starting point is 00:30:20 The biggest almost sex is giving a bunch of stuff. I mean. I don't love your women. I'm not even following this point. I don't know what you're talking about. Finish breaking it down. Wait, break down that for us. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:28 No, he doesn't break down anything. I know. I'm so confused. He knows how to do break dancing skills. Do you want to show your break dancing skills? I know that something you guys ought to do. I don't break down. Do you know how to break dance?
Starting point is 00:30:38 I'm breaking dance now dancing on y'all. Exactly. No. There we go. There we go. You can't show you, there you. There you go. It's on fire.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I should. I do got to dance for you. Not now, but I'll do it at some point. I don't dance on people, I respect people, all right? That tree. I would encourage you not to dance on people. Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 00:30:57 Bar-a-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. There we go. Dumb and d'ur. That's so good. You don't bring character either. I like your dedication. He's great, man. But that tree is in there, it's an idol, and you put it in an idol in your house.
Starting point is 00:31:17 So is mixed fabrics. Why are you wearing mixed fabrics, bro? It's so disrespectful. Mixed fabrics. I'm not wearing anything mixed. The Old Testament says mixed fabrics. I'm not wearing anything mixed. Oh, you're not wearing any mixed fabrics and your bro over there.
Starting point is 00:31:27 This is all one material. How about your bro over there? It's all one material and that's all one material. So you have never worn mixed fabrics in your life. But that's an idol right there. You're right. You never wash your clothes. Oh!
Starting point is 00:31:39 People can turn that into an idol. It already is an idol. No, it's not already. Yes, it is. No, it's a tree. You just admitted that that tree is in Jeremiah to Tim chapter and God was against it. And you took your God. And you took your God.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I didn't agree with your interpretation of it. That's for sure. That's why we shouldn't follow Christianity. I think he's just jealous because he doesn't have a house. I do have a house. No, you don't. Congratulations. I'm glad you do have a house.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I've seen some black Hebrew Israelites who have tattoos. What's going on there? So now, I have a tattoo. Exactly. Right. But I was not an Israelite when I got the tattoo. So take it off. So just like when Paul was unaliving Christians or excuse me,
Starting point is 00:32:18 unaliving Israelites. And then he repented, that wasn't counted against him. It's what he did forward. So whatever a man does before he's born again, that's what John the third chapter said. So when a woman was caught in adultery, does she die? No, she was given a second chance. So brothers that have tattoos or any other form of life,
Starting point is 00:32:36 when they turn their life to Christ, they have a second chance. Only a hypocrite would try to victimize him for it. Good. So you're born again. I like that. That's what Christ calls us to be. To be born again. That's great.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Go and get more tattoos. You've got to get born again, Jesus said to John and Nicodemus and John 3. Now that y'all know, y'all can't celebrate Christmas, you're going to take that tree out your house? No, absolutely not. See the difference? The Israelites would take the tree out. Well, good for you. That's fine to take the tree out of yours.
Starting point is 00:33:06 You don't have to have a tree. Not my Jesus. You don't have to. But that's great that you want to be born and have you been born again. If they put the gifts under the tree. If you put the gifts under the tree, you put the gifts under the tree, you know you're paying tribute. Do you put gifts under the tree? No, no, no, we're not paying tribute to it.
Starting point is 00:33:20 We're giving gifts to other human beings. He's mad because nobody ever brought him against. You don't want an answer. You've shown that very clearly. You don't want an answer. You just want to interrupt. That's all you want to do. You should let your son through the talking.
Starting point is 00:33:35 He can talk all he wants. I'm submitting. And why everybody could talk all he wants? Daddy get mad too easily. Daddy get mad. But do y'all present the gifts to the tree? No, we don't present a gift to a tree. Do y'all put gifts under the tree?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Let me answer you for crying out of life. You didn't answer. No. We give our gifts to people, not to trees. But before the 25th, are they sitting under the tree? As a matter of fact, it's not, it's actually the morning of 2015. That laugh gave away. Y'all, no, we're too lazy, man.
Starting point is 00:34:03 We're too late to put it out any time before. You're right. That laugh gave it away. Mixed fabrics, man. Can I say you're dying? Tattoo. I just think you're a liar. Can I say something real quick?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Can I think that he's just a little bit upset. Because when Christmas time was coming around when he was a kid, his dad wasn't around. So he wasn't able to get any gifts. Can you talk a little bit about that? You're talking to me? Yeah. I'm actually not upset at all. Did you get any gifts from?
Starting point is 00:34:33 I'm trying to answer you. No. Okay. Sorry about that. I actually think the most high that I found out that was an idol. So I'm really. Now, I was asking if you got any gifts from your father during Christmas time. I got gifts from my father, my mother, my grandmother, grandfather, my family.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I don't think that's the truth. I don't think so. Yeah. I got it. My father, this I found out, Santa Claus wasn't real. As I wanted a bike for Christmas, my dad said, you're going to get it. Santa Claus going to get it. And so as they put in the bike together, I wake up in the middle of the night and I go see my parents putting the treat the bikes together.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I said, damn, I thought it was Santa Claus. And it wasn't. So my dad built my bike. Right. So you realize because obviously Santa Claus, he's a white. I realized the white man was the devil by convincing us that this guy could ever come into a black Christmas house. And by the, Burke, pick it up, Burke, pick it off. Now, don't do that, Bert.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Don't do that. Burt, no, hell, no. Burt, don't drive it. The slave master would not be your master today. I am the slave master. I am the slave master. And if it's ever legal again, I'm not letting him get up. And if it's ever legal again, I'm not letting him get up.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I will be the master of slaves. That's why we're going to put y'all in change. But you wouldn't be a good worker. You would be a bad worker. That's right. Because you're loud and disruptive. You wouldn't need somebody bigger than you to enslave me. No, I would, I would have you walked all over here somewhere.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Hey, you would never enslave me. Yo, okay. But he ain't picking that up, though. He's not getting me. I'm holding him. I'll hold him the whole show. You're holding him down. It's not fair.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I'm holding him up. Okay, let him go and see if he picks it up. Pick it up, Bert. Burr, pick it up. I'm the best. Do the yacht there. Now, this is the dance. This is when I do the dance.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Make sure you keep that. That's a boy deducted for him. Yes. from you i'm the moderator i don't know no no no no okay point deducting you're the best man you the best you're the best so did you call us the white devil i said that's why the white man is the devil so i'm a white man and i have the devil yes and what does that mean the word devil means deceiver how you try to deceive us is god deceiving us for christmas all of that y'all created and gave that to us y'all gave black people y'all former christianity through bloodshed and murder and slavery took away gave us a slave bible and then when we got the bible it taught us the revolutionary believing in the most how the right way he had to learn that on our own yeah the black man has to walk into an environment and the first thing he has to establish is that he's a man is because of what y'all created so yes you are i did not create jesus i did not create jesus i did not create jesus i did not look like jesus i need to read howard thurman who gave a great talk at harvard
Starting point is 00:37:15 in 1947 about the power of the Negro African spirituals. Those slaves understood that there was coming a day of judgment when God would judge evil and when justice would win. You got to read those spirituals because they are in touch with reality. The reason y'all got those spirituals because y'all enslaved a bunch of people against they will. I didn't enslave anybody. I'm embarrassed by the way white folks enslaved people in the United States. I'm embarrassed by that and I stand against that and I stand for the value and dignity of
Starting point is 00:37:45 all human beings created the image of God. That's good. So when we say the white man is the devil, it's not every, no, I, right now, pick it up. It's not every, pick it up, no, don't touch it. Bert, pick it up. Bert, I'll give you $1,000. Don't you.
Starting point is 00:37:57 A thousand bucks. Don't sell your soul to pick it up. A thousand bucks. Bird, that's the black devil. You're going to learn today. Bert, you're not picking it up. Bird, pick up the Santa Claus. If I have to get up and make sure.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Oh, so you're going to physically, exactly. That's all these people know. That's what we have to do. That's what we have to do. I'm not going to hurt him. I'm just good. Christ say he shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. You're going to physically stop him.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You're going to physically stop doing him by choking him out and stomping on his head. What I wanted to say to you though, when we say to you know, when we say the white man the devil, it's a general statement. It doesn't mean every individual. See how you said that it's wrong. So you mean it metaphorically. No, not metaphorically. Meaning majority. Like 95% of y'all are the devil.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Oh, 95% of white people of the devil. And so what I mean, I'm saying that the same. How do you know it's 95%? Yeah, where'd you get that back from? Because I have never met a good white man that did not have an agenda with his niceness towards my people. So then wouldn't it be 100%? That's sad.
Starting point is 00:38:54 So then wouldn't it be 100? Just in case you're wondering, there are a lot of white people who got killed in the civil war to free the black slave. Abraham Lincoln was opposed to slavery. And there are a lot of white northerners who gave their lives to bring slavery to an end. They hated it so desperately. They didn't do enough, though. What they gave their life?
Starting point is 00:39:15 What more do you want a guy to do than give his life for you? Pass it down generationally the way you pass down slavery generationally. They should have had their kids fight for black people. Well, I can promise you there are a lot of fun. All the great. All the good. Who have stood against slavery. No problem.
Starting point is 00:39:29 But this is what's extremely interesting to me. Like you guys love, you know, extra biblical historical facts. Abraham Lincoln out of his own mouth said that he didn't fight the war to free the slaves. He did it for economic purposes. So for you to act like, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey, we can't. gave you this beating, but we're going to stop beating you, so now kiss our ass for it. Like, you out your mind.
Starting point is 00:39:49 What? Every single great abolitionist movement was done by Christians, and I hate to say it, 95% of those were white, because they cared about the blacks, and they wanted great change for the blacks because they loved him with no incentive to make money. And that's why Frederick Douglass was black, by the way. That's why he teamed up with the whites with Abe Lincoln and said, No, we're not going after it because of financial means. We're going after it because of Galatians 328, which says neither slave nor free, neither male nor female,
Starting point is 00:40:20 now they're Jew nor Gentile. All are creating in God's image. That's why we are going to set the black slaves. Free. So what image was burned in the lawns of black people by the k-kissed out? You caught me of my assailers, baby. Are hypocrites who violate what Christ taught. There are many hypocritical Christians, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:40 There absolutely are. From the Catholic Church all the way to the southern. That's right. You don't have to be very smart to see that. There are a lot of Christian hypocrites. Here's the thing, though. On these slave plantations, was there or was there not churches? Tragically, there were.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Tragically, the white Christians were racist too frequently, and that's sad. It's evil, and they will be judged for that by God. The abolitionists and people that y'all say fought for black people to get free, what did they give black people? They were dead. They died fighting, in the civil war. No, no. What did Abraham Lincoln free?
Starting point is 00:41:13 the slaves. He wasn't killed? Wait. He was killed. He was assassinated. By John Wilkes Booth. He said reparations? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:21 The FBI is fighting for reparations right now because black people have never received anything in regards to reparations. Part of that they became. Some became sharecropped where they had to work the same land that they was enslaved on. And black people were never given anything. And then when black people built their cities, who burnt them shits down? Yeah, Nat Turner. Absolutely, that's historic.
Starting point is 00:41:46 You're right. Black Wall Street, Rosewood, Paradise, Chocolate City. Black Wall Street. You know there's never been, you know there's never been a aerial attack on America.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Hey, hey, hey, hey, $20 for crack. You know they've never been an American turn. Hey, hey, hey, $30 for crack. What is going on in Black Wall Street? They didn't have crack back then. They didn't have crack until y'all $20 for that. $20 for that.
Starting point is 00:42:10 $20 for that. But there's never been an aerial. attack in America until y'all flew a planes over black wall street and bombed it because of your jealousy they bombed black wallers because they were jealous of us being free from slavery we built our own city own hospitals airstrips and banks and your jealousy burned it to well jealousy's a sin so you can tell me about jealousy's evil and i bet they were christian jealousy's evil yeah what they're christian yes i don't have the faintest idea whether they were hypocrites thomas jefferson was christian no he was not Thomas Jefferson took a knife and cut out, all references to the cross of Christ out of the New Testament.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Don't call him a Christian. All of them Christian. He was a deist. No, Thomas Jefferson was not a Christian. He was a deist. Study Jefferson. He was not a Christian. He did not follow Christ.
Starting point is 00:42:57 You mentioned some other things besides black water. What were the other ones? White Jesus is false. Santa Claus City. Paradise City. There's no way there were black people in Paradise City. I mean, that's the antithesis of Paradise City. That's why they called it Paradise.
Starting point is 00:43:13 The reason why they called Tulsa, Oklahoma, they call it Black Wall Street. Yeah. Because it was nothing more richer than that city at that time. He's in Oklahoma like one of the lowest economic station. Oh, I can't say y'all because you're Jewish. I'm not Jewish. Oh, oh, he slipped up. I'm Jewish now.
Starting point is 00:43:28 You're Jewish. Oh, see, he slipped up now. He has to clarify. This guy's a fool. Because, like, as I said earlier, Jewish people want to be black, which makes them weird. So you don't want to be a weird. either so you figure I'm gonna just be white I'm not gonna say my variation of that term for you because it's like a brawl he's gonna break out but let me say something I'm gonna I'm gonna make you
Starting point is 00:43:51 an offer man I don't think he would win I mean again he's like LeBron he's a LeBron of fishing if I get a hold of my Mike LeBron Tyson Jordan Jackson all anyways if I get a hold of mr. Bs that breaking character no no he's he's all If I get a hold of Mr. Beast and he's willing to do a social experiment where we take a bunch of black people and tell them they're on Wall Street. Can we do that? Would you be willing to be like a leader there? Say it again, what you want to do? I want to get a hold of somebody who can do, like, take a hold of this financially and I want to see how black Wall Street works out. So what you're going to do?
Starting point is 00:44:31 It's going to be like Skid Row after three days. No, no. What is the setup? That's black Wall Street in the real world. It's called Skid Row. What is the setup? What's the setup? Yeah, what's the setup?
Starting point is 00:44:40 Yeah, we'll get a bunch of it. bunch of of African-American this sounds racist from me I'm not being racist I'm just man just be racist we know you are I am I okay fine yeah you got into it okay can okay we'll get a bunch of African-Americans or Africans whatever and we'll give them their own little town and right them a bunch of y'all gonna leave us alone listen listen we'll give them a bunch of financial information and it's like what do you think is but we also have to make it fair we have to give at least two of them crack and we have to teach at least another two how to make it how many men
Starting point is 00:45:10 How many men and women? How many people? 100 men, 100 women. 200 people. And only two have crack. Two have crack. Two can make it. And the other one? Let them all be from my school.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Except the two on crack. Like the school you went to or the school? I'm in right now. I should be K. You give 200 people. Yeah, you know what? Perfect deal. You won't do it.
Starting point is 00:45:31 No, no, I will. If I can get somebody to fund it. You do it. You get them to fund it. I guarantee you. But y'all got to leave us alone. Y'all going to be jealous in two years. You'll be jealous of now.
Starting point is 00:45:40 In three days, it's going to explode. Let's find out. There's going to be like a crack explosion. Let's find out. We have to build a domer out. Listen, everybody's going to get infected. They can't just be two crackheads. You got to have a drug dealer, too.
Starting point is 00:45:51 You know what it's going to be? I guarantee you bring them two crackheads that drug dealer. We're going to turn that crackhead and right, the drug dealer right. We're going to fix it. And y'all going to find a reason to shut the shit down. If you take a cracked out person and you put them in your hands, they're going to end up going to sleep for a long time. They won't be high, though. They won't be high.
Starting point is 00:46:09 They'll be high. They'll be low. They'll be really low. They'll be really low. They won't be high. How about this? Listen, I'm just as swift as you. I would bet.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I'm just as fast as you. I would bet. Fuck. Who is this guy? Commander Burr. What is this bullshit? Now I lost my train of dog. We'll move on.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I'm the best. The black is the best. He made me lose my train of God. I mean, he's black too, but whatever. He did a good job. Okay. You got to get trained. I can train you too.
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Starting point is 00:48:06 I'll keep reading it until somebody gets it right. Okay. If Pins are related to Pige and Pigs not related to Flabo, then who's related to Jammin Jack? If he's not related to them, but he's to Fugo, who's not related to Piner Piper? He's related to Fugu. He got it. That's a point for the Israelites, unfortunately. That was the right answer. Damn it! Fuck! I wasn't even pay attention the first time.
Starting point is 00:48:33 But I didn't want him to keep saying that shit. No, yeah, you were. Don't try to make it even cooler. You got the point. Now, move on. Have some. some self have some right be humble okay I guess again we'll start with you guys and then we'll move on to those people do you think black and white people should be allowed to live in the same community well it's all based on we're all created in the image of God right we all have equal value so of course we live in the same community racism is evil
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's sinful. It'll be judged by God, and it's real clear that Jesus in his first sermon in Luke 4 took a frontal attack on racism and almost got killed for it because he told a synagogue pack full of Jews. God loves Gentiles just as much as he loves Jews. And the people were irate, they stood up and they took Jesus to a cliff to throw him to his death and he walked right through him. So obviously racism is wrong. And so obviously a follow of crisis says, of course people of different ethnic heredages can live in the same community. Katz setting up a whole paradigm down there where everything is based off of moral superiority. So everything that the white man has done in the past that's quote unquote evil, that's why they should submit to the great black man who's done everything that is righteous. Now, if you're going to go by that paradigm, you're going to separate and you're going to bring about a lot of violence and hatred. Secondly, if you're going to go by that paradigm, you're going to wipe away the entire central message that, oddly enough, he brought up earlier, which is great. Jesus Christ went to the cross to die for us because he forgave us of our sins
Starting point is 00:50:14 so nothing is done out of moral superiority but everyone is bankrupt at the foot of the cross but couldn't you say that that wouldn't really matter to him because at the end of the day he just wants to feel superior to people who does this guy over here and he says that's what I'm saying it doesn't matter I'm saying nothing matters to him isn't that true right birth I was talking to bird by the way what's going on here
Starting point is 00:50:37 Burt's mute. I'm going to talk for a bird. No, you're not. Everything I'm going to say, Burt's going to say, right? How about you be quiet? Everything I say, Bert's going to say, right, Bert? See?
Starting point is 00:50:45 That's right. See? Thank you. So now what I first want to say is what he said about Jesus Christ is false. Christ said, I am not sent, but into the lost sheep of the house of Israel. That's what he said. When it said, when John 316 for God so love the world, the world does not talk about everybody because Christ also said,
Starting point is 00:51:01 I didn't interrupt this time. Just think about that, though. No, I got you. Because the same man that said, God so love. of the world also said, I pray for them. I pray not for the world. So the world has to have a context. In Isaiah 45 and 17, it says Israel is the, would be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation. You shall not be ashamed, no confounded world. That's who Christ was talking about. When it comes to, can we live amongst white people? It's very hard to ask
Starting point is 00:51:27 a black person to live amongst white people with the history of us living amongst white people. The history of us, the whole reason why I bring up Black Wall Street and Rosewood, those were black cities that tried their best to get along with white people, and through envy, they burned the cities down. They create redlining. They created so many obstacles to get in the way of black people from achieving that the only way we should at least see if it's better is if we had our own city. We should at least look at that as an opportunity. When we talk about the drug epidemic with the CIA flooding us with drugs and abortions, X, Y, Z like that. You want your own city? We should at least see it.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And we have seen it. I mean, take a look at Ghana. You want to live in Ghana? Ghana is not a black city. That's an African city. You mean like an Israelite city. Yeah. And the whole superiority, the Bible says. Yeah, but you know what the issue is with that? What? Is that the culture today, you know, people because of what happening in the past feel bad and give some credit to black people. They don't. That doesn't. I have not seen. Hold on a minute. Well, you interrupted me. Well, yeah, I did, but I'm the moderate story. It's my rules. My rule is my way. I'm the boss here. Long as I get to finish. Well, what I'm saying is that the differences with Israelites. You're saying, we have an experience that in Ghana, the same will never apply to Israelites because nobody takes them seriously. You know what I mean? Well, you take me serious enough to bring you back twice. If you ask a guy, you say, do you know an Israelite? They say no, or they're like, oh, is that the crazy people on the side of the street? We start yelling? Right.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I would expect that from your world. In my world, when you ask my people, if they know Israel- like 99.9% of the experience. Right, and we want to be the percent away from you. That's the point. So, and why is that? And why is that? You're saying to separate us?
Starting point is 00:53:07 Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's fantastic. Because, again, the Bible, here's what the Bible says. The Bible says, when the wicked on authority, the people mourn, when the righteous are on authority, the people rejoice. You got, but you guys never quote, you guys never quote. We agree with you. But you never quote.
Starting point is 00:53:23 If you want physical boundaries, just like in a spousal, abuser relationship. And that's exactly what black and Hispanics have been inside of America. If you want some space, bro, for some physical boundaries because of abuse, we'll support that. And that's exactly what's never. necessary. Sure. Here's something else you guys should start quoting. You should start quoting when Martin Luther King said, I fear as though I've integrated my people into a burning house. America is a burning house by Dr. King. It's a brilliant letter and he hits it right out of the ballpark. I got a question. You want space? He gets based?
Starting point is 00:53:52 That's a law. And Dr. King was absolutely great. Why is there a popular hashtag that's been going around that says free Palestine? Are we able to continue the interview? Yeah, why not? We don't do hashtags. I'm just asking. I don't have the faintest idea why someone writes what they write. Do you know what a hashtag is? I'm just saying, like, you guys haven't heard the phrase free Palestine? Hashtag retarded.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yes, we've heard a phrase. So what does that phrase mean to you guys? What does that phrase mean to me? It means that we as human beings have this innate understanding that an American thug is still a thug. A Palestinian thug is still a thug, and a Jewish thug is still a thug. He doesn't want to say that. We all have a problem with sin. And if someone is being oppressed, then those of us who are not oppressed should fight for their liberation.
Starting point is 00:54:42 So we are supporting, freeing, oppressed people. We are supporting the value of every single human being because we're created in the image of God. Because we're all so loved by God that he sent his only son, Christ, to bleed and die on a cross, to forgive us and to give us eternal life. That is why we stand for the dignity and sanctity of all of human life. Got you. Now, give me the space to say this. When Jewish people were oppressed, right? Jewish people turned around, and then they were given the state of Israel with the Belford Declaration so that they could have the space to heal.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And then what do they do? Now they turn around and oppress the people right next door to them. If that doesn't say that they're the devil, I don't know what does. And on top of that, just to walk the dog a little further. You understand? If Palestine isn't free, then black and Hispanics are not free in America. And in the same capacity, if you could understand that Jewish people needed a space, to heal from German occupation,
Starting point is 00:55:34 then you better understand that we need that space to heal from white, whether Christian or not occupation. No, we need the space to heal from... That doesn't make you superior, though, right? Just because you need space doesn't make you superior. No, we're just superior because God said it. Oh, because God said it. Because the Israelites weren't a light to all Gentiles and nations, right?
Starting point is 00:55:54 Scripture never says that. Well, you know what I realized when I read Isaiah the 60th chapter? Oh, go ahead, please. No, no, stay right there. To be the light. you're in darkness, so you have to come up to the light. That's the epitome of superior. That's right.
Starting point is 00:56:07 You're not light. Because they were the chosen people, but not out of anything that they've done. It was by God's grace. And I still haven't heard of death. Here's the amazing part. You've got no grace in any of your language whatsoever. But here's the amazing part. In Isaiah 60, right, when the fulfillment comes, right, and the rising of the light
Starting point is 00:56:23 onto Israel, you know what happens to the strangers? Anyone who won't serve Israel gets destroyed. The strangers shall build up thy wall. That's what it says. So, I mean, if we want to, to talk about fulfillment of prophecy oh it says and the nation that shall not serve these shall be utterly destroyed so i can't wait for the light to come i can't wait to be a light to the gentiles yeah i can't wait for you to pay tribute to us instead of a tree i i can't wait for that
Starting point is 00:56:47 nobody pays tribute to a tree that i know of for us a tree is a symbol of a holiday that's all it is the grace the grace is like no there is more stuff that you celebrate that's pagan than you We don't celebrate nothing. We don't celebrate nothing pagan. We don't celebrate nothing pagan. But your grace part, to answer the grace, for us, grace is being under grace means whatever you did wrong according to the law, you now have a grace period to correct. So if he was an adulterer, a liar, a thief, murderer, idol worshiper, you have to correct
Starting point is 00:57:24 that. Grace is not a time to keep sinning. So when y'all keep putting that Christmas tree in your house, you're not under grace. in Hebrews 10 and 26 it says if you sin willfully after receiving the knowledge there remained no more sacrifice for sins so today y'all got knowledge of that idol so even though y'all not Israelites
Starting point is 00:57:42 y'all keep that tree in your house the Lord just might burn that house down and remember what you said that you are morally perfect so you don't need grace do you sir because you're a perfect person perfect as your father in heaven is perfect yeah and none of us are perfect that's why we need his grace did he say that yes he calls it to be perfect
Starting point is 00:57:59 absolutely right and so Matthew 5 and 14 be ye therefore perfect that's the goal that means we can do it that's the dog can't use the phone you can't use the phone deduction you can't use the phone yep you ready I'm demarator continue please with what I don't know who is talking before that I told him a house might burn after receiving knowledge of the truth about that Christmas I'm not afraid of that I'm afraid of he's running a person rejecting God's grace for the sin that they've committed. That's sad. We all are sinners, and we all need God's grace. And I am a
Starting point is 00:58:36 sinner, a dirty, rotten sinner I am, and that's why I need Christ. And the Apostle Paul writes in Roman chapter 7 that he struggled with sin himself. Who? The Apostle Paul in Roman chapter 7. So if Paul struggle with sin, I'm an arrogant twit. If I say I don't struggle with sin, because I'm just like Paul. valuable because we're creating the image of God, but we're all rebels against God. We all have a sin problem. Paul didn't struggle with sin. Bro, he sure did. What day is it today? I think it's the 12th.
Starting point is 00:59:06 But what day? Happy day. What, hold on, what day is it? Friday. Friday. Do you go by Fridays? Yes, Friday, sundown, Saturday, sundown, a Saturday, sundown. So Friday has pagan roots, though, where Friday came from worshiping horses.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Right, right, right. So you should be talking about the day Friday. You shouldn't be talking about the day Friday. Right. So why are you okay with Friday? We shouldn't call Friday. We shouldn't say Friday. It's just a word.
Starting point is 00:59:30 go for us right now. I would be worshipped in the Hebrew, by the way, bro. In the Hebrew, baby. I think this guy is literally as intelligent as a horse. I've been agreeing with you the whole time. We should drop Monday, Tuesday, who created the name Friday? Did the Israelites create the name Friday? For us, it's just a sixth day. No, you know, his pagan roots regardless. It doesn't matter. It doesn't have pagan roots. Worshiping horses. That doesn't even make sense. What I mean? It's history yet again. If you're going to say Christmas trees, be consistent. Right. The days of the week, bro. So the word on Friday, what did they do with Friday? Worshipping horses
Starting point is 01:00:02 Is where the word came from Tweed, for example, Tuesday was also Pagan. That's not what I'm asking you. Tweed came from worshipping. All the days the week came from worshiping horses. That's where the names came from. So you want to pick on a Christmas tree, I'm going to pick on you with your days of the week.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Unless you want to rename them. You should be renaming them. Here's a difference. Don't go by Monday to Sunday. Not that fake tree. The actual tree is what, a pine tree or something like that? It depends. fur? Okay, so let's say fur tree. Let's say fur tree. Let's say if I take a fur tree and just put it in my house on any day. I'm just asking, is that a sin? According to how you're interpreting
Starting point is 01:00:40 scripture, no, it's not a sin. It's not. But if I did it, the way that Jeremiah the 10th chapter does it, then it is a sin, right? If it's, if you're going by that, then again, you have to go with mixed fabrics. If I'm wearing, let's just stay right with the horses. Mixed fabrics, then that's just as just as much of a sin as me bringing a tree into my house on December 20th. But why are you running? I'm not running. Okay, so we got the horses in the tree. So you agree that if you do that, the way that Jeremiah the 10th chapter says, that makes it
Starting point is 01:01:07 an idol. So you take the word Friday. Friday is just a word. The only way it would be idol worship is if I did whatever that horse shit that you just say because you're talking horse shit. No, no, no, no. It doesn't matter. It does matter.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Because I didn't make the day. Still the name Friday came. came from people worshipping horses. I didn't make the day. Do you worship horses? No. It doesn't matter that you didn't make the day. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I didn't make the day the day. The only way it matters is if I'm worshiping horses. I don't, I am consistent. That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Not even close. That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. That's the best you got is the argument? I am.
Starting point is 01:01:45 You're not even in the same arena. Get your breathing here. You got to start spinning. Let's go. So the horses is what y'all going to die on? No. The tree is what you're dying on a tree. You're going to die on Jesus is God.
Starting point is 01:01:57 You know that's an idol. No, it's not an idol. The difference between you and I, I don't have horses on Friday. You have that tree on December 24th. You got that house right now. You keep running from mixed fabrics. You've never worn a mixed fabric. You only were cotton?
Starting point is 01:02:13 You can wear different material. It just has to be the same material. So again, so wait a saying, let me get this straight. Let me get this straight. That black is all that you're wearing. It's got, no, no, no. What about the gray? Is that cotton?
Starting point is 01:02:24 You can actually put this on top. Right, it's not the cotton, man. That is not cotton whatsoever. You're mixing fabrics right now. And the Old Testament says, never mix fabrics. He's calling this. The design is saying that that's mixed fabrics. That's not a mixed fabric.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So you never wear mixed fabrics? So you know, wait, wait, wait. So you know when you wear, when you wear a priestly garment. You know when you wear a priestly garment, you know when you wear a priestly garment, you put different material on it. There's jewels. There's jewels on the priestly garment. All that is on a priestly garment. That didn't make no sense.
Starting point is 01:02:55 But on the, you got a tree in your house right now? Do you play football? Uh-uh. Do you ever throw a football? No. You never touch a football. When I was a kid, I'm a grown man now. When you're a sinner, a grown man, don't play football?
Starting point is 01:03:05 No, no, I'm saying I'm grown. I don't play football. You never throw a football. Is that because it's against your rules in the Old Testament? Because you're not supposed to touch pigskin. So it's smart of you. Well, it got to be made out of pig skin. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Oh, okay, all right. So you're breaking all rules, except the Christmas tree one. I get it. You just brought up a whole lot. I get it. That makes sense. I don't play football. But if that tree in your house right now?
Starting point is 01:03:26 The store of football would be sinning for you. Is that tree in your house right now? I'm going to bring the football out of my car. I'm going to throw it to you today. You better not catch. You better run from it. If it touches you, you're sinning. Can you answer?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Is the tree in your house? The tree is outside my house and I have a little one inside that I do not worship. So the difference between you and I don't have a horse. I don't have a football. You do have more. And no mixed fabrics. And no mixed fabrics. But you do have that idol in your house right now.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And you better pray the most hot on say, I'm going to judge them. You know, that's incredible the way you're being so judgmental about a tree. Good gracious, man. Grow up. How did God feel about it? How does God feel about idol worship? In your car? How does God feel about idol worship?
Starting point is 01:04:07 Christ said the first commandment is the love God of all by my soul and friends. Money is the big idol in America, not a tree. It's money. And you know what that tree is power. I'm glad you said money. I agree. That's what the real issue is. And you know what that tree is?
Starting point is 01:04:22 by a stinking tree. Come on, buddy. I'm an answer. Get in touch with reality. Okay, so I'm an answer. Reality is idolatry in America has to do with money, sex, power. It has nothing to do with a tree. Gotcha. So you know what America did with that tree? That's why they call it Black Friday.
Starting point is 01:04:37 The day after Thanksgiving until Christmas, they make you spend all the money in the world for that tree. Nobody makes me spend my money. I spend it because everybody waits until now. That's why you got all the sales and everything. So when you say money, you're right. And the Christian, America, who is not Christian, America hates God. They may show that tree make y'all spend that money. New York is packed right now to spend that money for that tree.
Starting point is 01:05:02 They're going to put a big tree in the middle of the New York, put gifts on it. Everybody in their house about to put gifts. So you write about money. That tree brings money. And everybody presenting their gifts, just like Jeremiah the Tim Chapters said. Not to a tree. Come on, man. Then why does it go to the tree?
Starting point is 01:05:18 It doesn't all go to a tree. The kids got to run as soon as they wake up. mommy mommy does Santa come and then you hate Jesus Christ because even if you say that's his birthday you got that white man so what's the difference between the old and new covenant you know what's what's the difference between the old and the new covenant let me just say one last thing descriptive in the old like the tree let me just descriptive is only if it's repeated in the new testament okay let me let me let me wait after I make this one statement ain't prescriptive bro here's how disrespectful y'all are with Santa Claus to God and Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:05:46 Santa Claus has a song he knows when you sleeping He knows when you are awake. He knows if you've been good or bad, so be good for goodness sake. So they have you believe that this right man is God. It is. Because he knows if you're good or bad. When the kids go to sleep at night, they're thinking about Santa Claus. They're not thinking about no Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:08 They're thinking about Santa. Guys, I've spoken to a lot of Americans, and none of the Americans I speak to worship Santa Claus. Yes, y'all do. No, they do not. They don't worship Santa Claus. You got reindeer? I bet y'all got reindeer. Come on, get in touch with reality.
Starting point is 01:06:22 You have to understand that. Americans do not worship Santa Claus. I bet you I got rained in. You got the funky-ass candy cane. I bet you I do out of that. I should take this candy cane and just blast that Christmas tree. Don't do that shit, man. Santa Claus.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Come on. Think. Observe. Okay. Anyways, let's move on. Hold on. We are in the New Testament. Just for the record.
Starting point is 01:06:45 We're going to move on. Why do you think GameStop offers Why do you think GameStop offers such a low value for their trade-ins? Don't you think they will dissentivize customers from going there in general? Maybe if they offer better prices, they could improve their reputation and sell more products. No, because it's easier to just download it right off of PlayStation and Xbox. I was asking about trade-ins.
Starting point is 01:07:10 What are you going to trade-in when most people is digital world now? It's like getting a CD. No, but the bad thing with GameStop that people talk about is they offer such a low amount. for trade-ins. Obviously, going digital is easy, but... Yeah, but now with people, I mean, they should, you should be able to get a discount when you buy something digitally and you want to return it. Because you don't have to get
Starting point is 01:07:30 the, you can't return it usually digitally. It's not allowed. Just delete it. Yeah, but then you don't get your money back. That's, I just said you should get something for that digitally if you... Oh, okay. If you delete it? Yeah, if you delete it or something. And what do you guys think?
Starting point is 01:07:44 That's what do suck about it. That's why GameStop offering, well, GameStop kind of stupid. Okay. But that's why, no, but actually It's more of like a financial question. The reason why GameStop, this is weird. I know more about this than them. The reason why GameStop is charging such less money
Starting point is 01:07:58 is because of the digital age. Back in the day, they've been doing bullshit about this forever. But did, no, but you got to think like in the past 10 years has been more digital. Like even right now, when I wanted to get, when I got it, when I downloaded Call of Duty and I downloaded Battlefield,
Starting point is 01:08:12 I didn't have to go to the store. Yeah, but also. I'm surprised. GameStop still open? It is, but there's some minus. of going just digital, you know, they're good to decide when the game goes offline. They can take your license away from you
Starting point is 01:08:24 and not let you play the game anymore. Whereas if you buy an offline game in a physical condition, it's all yours. But a lot of people not doing it. You can also, again, sell it. Right. It's easier, but also it takes up more space digitally. Yeah, but people are not, like,
Starting point is 01:08:37 we live in a microwave era. You live in a microwave? I say we. I don't live in a microwave. Yes, you do. We want everything fast. We don't want to preheat the oven. I know you're trying to relate and stuff,
Starting point is 01:08:48 but I think that's just you. I didn't know about GameStop shit, man. You said you live in a microwave. I said we. I didn't say I. All of us. Oh, you do? In the same one?
Starting point is 01:08:56 That's a little gay. That's a little weird. It's a little small of the space for too bad. That's your side of the world. Y'all know about gay. You just said you live in a microwave. I said we. Okay, listen.
Starting point is 01:09:04 A microwave is usually about this big. The microwave is a metaphor. It's very weird. Microwave is a metaphor. You knew that, though. Did God make the Israelites so good at basketball because he felt bad for taking away their intelligence? God hasn't taken away the intelligence of the Israelites.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Okay. All are human beings created the image of God, which means we have rational mind. That's his mantra. I don't think he has a rational mind. I would disagree. That's a very good point. One of the ways sin is shown is in being irrational. One of my pieces of evidence that God exists is the rational mind.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Think about it. If there is no God, what you believe is the non-rational produce the rational. That's absurd. It's far more reasonable to believe that behind our rational minds is a rational mind, a creator of God, than it is to believe that our rational minds came from the non-rational. What about Bert? Is he rational or no? I'm sure Bert's rational. I don't know what game is playing right now, so I don't know what's going on instead of Bert.
Starting point is 01:10:05 He's not playing any game. No, Bert's a human being created the image of God. He's a precious, valuable human being who Jesus loves so much. He bled and died on a cross to forgive you for your sin and to give you eternal life. Now, they also believe that Jesus is black, and you guys can get into that. But I actually was going to say that I have some evidence that he wasn't. What's your evidence? A pitcher? Well, I was going to know, if he was black, then he would have turned the water into Henny.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Is that not true? Henny is a white man's liquor, though. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. Is this guy fucking crazy or what? Listening is an art. Who makes sense?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Yeah, and you are an F. You're failing the listening class. You've been interrupting this whole time, like 24-7. Because this is black. No, he isn't. Just he is. Okay, then why wasn't he drinking, Henny? Because we was drinking wine back then.
Starting point is 01:11:02 We was drinking wine. You were around back then? Yeah, my people was. That's my history. Oh, is that how the Jewish people, you say, we was this, we was that. I'm not Jewish. I'm not Jewish. Okay, white.
Starting point is 01:11:11 When you say, we talk about your white history, you say, we did this. We built America. That's what you say. Now you're saying something interesting. You're saying that you're able to survive for thousands of years because you shove yourself into a microwave? No, they didn't have microwaves back then, man. It was like a little time capsule.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Then I just popped out in 75. In 75? 1975. Oh, I thought you meant like 1775. No. Okay. Anyways, we'll move on. I don't even know he's talking about.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Holenzy. Who brought this up? I would have unalived Thomas Jefferson. You would have unalived them? Yeah, I would have made sure. I don't think you would have got close to them. You would have walked up and they went and get back. to work. You wouldn't have got close
Starting point is 01:11:48 to him. And I would have been the one doing it and I would have been a hobby about it. That's too far. To make his own teeth because he didn't have no teeth. He probably would have did something like that. You didn't have no teeth? Yeah. Okay. I guess this one's protruding a little bit for you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, would you guys like to talk about Israel?
Starting point is 01:12:07 What about it? Just in general. Oh, you're the state of Israel right now? It's fuck up. If you guys want to get involved with that. I don't know what your guys' positions are. I remember a lot of Last time you said you don't like Israel or Palestine. And I'm not sure where you guys stand on that. But I think Israel is more wrong than Palestine, but I don't like neither one of them. Israel is more wrong than Palestine.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't know if that's how. The state of Israel has broken every treaty that they had. That's what the white man does. He breaks treaties. Okay. So he broke every treaty with the Palestinian state.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Unaliving little kids and blowing up hospitals and shit like that. That's what the white man does. I worship a Jew. Jesus of Nazareth. That Jewish man. to be more than a man. He'll be worshipping me soon then. He'll be worshipping me soon. And the evidence I am a Jew, I'm not Jewish, I'm a Jew, points to Jesus being reliable. Get ready to worship us then. You'll be worshipping us soon. No, I don't worship a human
Starting point is 01:13:00 man. You just said you worship a Jew. I worship Jesus of Nazareth. That's right. That's right. And you're going to worship all the Jews. So anti-Semitism in the name of Christianity is obviously a contradiction in terms. It's totally hypocrisy. What is anti-Semitism? What is that? embracing an attitude of superiority towards Jewish people and denigrating Jewish people the same way racism is expressed towards black people as being inferior and that's evil the same way racism is displayed in viewing white people as inferior. Now, what does that have to do with you serving a Jew? That is a violation of the fact that we all have equal value and dignity because we all are created the image of God.
Starting point is 01:13:36 God did not create us all equal at all. He sure did. Equal in value, not equal in talents, that's for sure. but equal in value, yes. And the Bible says all the nations are as nothing but the drop of a bucket. Yeah, that's a good metaphor. A nation is not clearly a drop of water in a bucket. It says like a drop of, like a speck of water drops from a bucket.
Starting point is 01:13:59 So you're into highly symbolic language there, sir. But it still means you nothing, though. It still means you nothing. And you're viewing other people as inferior to you is tragic, and it's an example of sin. No, more black people should understand that so we could stop looking up to white people. We don't have to live like white people. When we live like white people, that's why we kill. We kill, get hives, sell drugs, living like white people.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Live in reality, which is, God created all human beings with equal value and dignity. Do you want to say something? I do. I do. This is interesting, right? You're familiar with Mark the 7 chapter? Mark 7? Yeah. So you're familiar with the Cyrill Phoenician, the woman who was Greek by nation?
Starting point is 01:14:34 So when Christ, you understand, did a comparison, right? Since we all like metaphors, right? I don't think we need a lexicon for this. So when he said, let the children. first be fed for does not meet you understand to give uh uh take the children's bread and give it on to the dogs that's not okay who was the children who is the dog jesus is uh dipping into a very racist view of people he is not including it answer the question just directly why don't you let me answer it sir instead of telling me how
Starting point is 01:15:06 i'm to answer it and when no no no why don't why don't you just listen for a change it'd be healthy so come on cliff the syrophenician woman came asking jesus to heal correct the child and jesus says no not right now but then he sees the faith of the woman and he heals the child immediately like in in mark hold on but he didn't answer the question you didn't explain to me who is the children and who is the dog but i'm glad you brought up the faith because if i remember correctly he says for thy saying her saying was yes lord i am a dog but don't dogs get to eat of the crumbs of the table now i'm you know i'm i'm not a zoologist you know i mean i'm not a biologist but i could only assume that your child is is way greater than a dog so children are greater than the pets
Starting point is 01:16:00 christ says somebody is the child and somebody is the pet could you decipher who's who yeah it's real simple every human being is he created the image of god we have equal value jesus was dealing with some racist terminology some superiority inferiority terminology and he was showing how bankrupt that line of thinking is so let me give you mine healed the daughter no let me let me let me tell you what actually healed the daughter right he uplips her right and you know why because her faith was so great when she realized that she was inferior to the children of Israel, which is why he said, not only for thy faith, he said, woman, for thy saying. Who's the hero of the parable to Good Samaritan? A Samaritan is not a Jew.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Don't run from this. I know it hurts. I'm not running from you at all. No, it doesn't hurt at all. No, it doesn't hurt at all. Because Christ turned around. The Good Samaritan is the hero. You get a known parable. And the Good Samaritan is the hero. You read a one verse like you guys. We are the children. You are the dog. One verse. right now. But the Cyril Phoenician is the dog and the children of Israel are superior. Brans-Divians down there. No, the children of Israel are not superior.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Then why do Jews have just the problem? When it comes to Christ, Christ clearly was talking about Israel being the children, and clearly that white woman being the dog. Yeah, that's Sierra Phoenician. She was a Greek by nation. Cyril Phoenician, Greek by nation. So now, and we know where the female dog is, right? We know what a female dog is?
Starting point is 01:17:38 Gungolona. Oh, yeah. Female dog is a bitch. Bow, wow. Roof, roof! Roof! Roof!
Starting point is 01:17:45 I told you he was a dog. That is such convoluted thinking. That's not. And he said for this saying, your daughter is here because she knew her position. Dad, do I need the lexicon? That's why y'all going to have to be forced into your position. Do I need a lexicon over here?
Starting point is 01:17:59 Because y'all not like that good white woman. Y'all don't say yes, we'll be the dogs. You think you're going to be equal. Equal. So the nation that would not serve. So let me give you. Shout Paris. Before you do that,
Starting point is 01:18:09 or just everything is everything. 10 seconds. The reason why is it's Well, you're not going to do well in life if you just say, you've already had more. But I'm going to talk while y'all talking. You're talking more than you guys.
Starting point is 01:18:20 He's asking for 10 seconds. Yeah, he's right. Listen to him. Okay. And then after it, I just want 10 seconds. Yeah, sure. You get 10 after, but after listen to him. No problem.
Starting point is 01:18:28 I know it hurt. First of all. No, bro. It ain't hurt at all. It hurts. It hurts is embarrassing. It's that one burn. Yeah, that one burns.
Starting point is 01:18:34 No, no, no, no. I get it. I get it, bro. It's a tough passage. I'm with you. It's hard. It's hard. But I don't need a lexicon to understand. We'll get through this together. There's some tough passages in the Bible where you actually need to understand context and as well as who the audience is, who he's speaking to. So, Mark Chapter 7 with the Cyrofenician woman, let me tell you exactly what's going on there. It's a tough reading, right? Just like slaves obey your masters. We haven't gotten there yet. So it's a tough reading that is stressing Jesus Christ by the healing, but also when he says, well,
Starting point is 01:19:06 done with your answer what he's doing is not saying Jews are superior what he's saying is she understands grace that the Jews were chosen by grace nothing that they did just like Noah for example was not chosen just guys he was a great guy like these guys down here no he was chosen by grace so the Syrophenician woman answers with even the dogs get the crumbs saying even the Gentiles and the Jews both get the crumbs now that's a dick um when it comes Sorry, what did he just say? You changed what I heard everything?
Starting point is 01:19:39 No, no, tell, give it to us. What did he say? I'm not pause. I'm not giving you anything. You can't pause. You can't, you can't, man. You're scared. You didn't understand what he said.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Oh, I forgot. You know, you don't know what pauses. You don't know what pauses. Just come on, give it back to what he said was that Christ got a single word. That's why he's moving out of that. What did I say? You're coping out, sir. Boom, baby.
Starting point is 01:20:00 You're running away. You said that Christ healed her because of grace. That's what Paul was. That's what you said. What I want to speak on when I want to ask for the 10 seconds. You want to get up to now. Let's go. It'll be 50.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Let's jump real fast. The reason why superior, the reason why when you see black people say we are superior and why we push that. Because in this world, we're taught to be inferior. We're taught to put your head down when you see a white man. Oh! We're talking to say, yes, ma'am. No, sir. When you see our own people, we get to talk to our own people with such disdain and grace.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Nobody can even hear it. Even like right now. Even like right now, as I say here, as I say here, as I, you're not stronger to me, as I sit here and try to empower black people. You see, the white man don't want you out to hear that. So what he would rather do, what he would rather, I said it might be more. No. I said it might be.
Starting point is 01:20:54 You said 10. And then I said, no, it might be like 15. But sometimes we're going to rank. We're going to rank. So this is my rank. So now black people need to see black men put in superiority and. being proud and standing for your morality and not the white man's morality. Our morality is following the law, statute, commandments of God.
Starting point is 01:21:14 The white man's morality is that Christmas tree, Santa Claus, getting high, find some white bimbo, and think you're going to be good and have a good life with, ever. That is not, that would be dumb to follow white men. You damn right. Click that. Follow Jesus Christ. He's the way. And Christ is a black man.
Starting point is 01:21:33 He's the way. I follow Jesus Christ. He said fine. I appreciate that. I really don't care what you think about Jesus' ethnic heritage and racial identity. What I do care about is that you get to know Jesus Christ. Because we didn't say, Deuterion of me 2868 the whole time. There's about a thousand sex of you.
Starting point is 01:21:53 So what sex are you? So maybe we did do the wrong homework. We don't need to do homework. We don't need to do homework. We don't know what exactly. We're the home of the truth. What sect are you, bro? The home of the truth.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I don't know. I didn't even know you guys were coming. That's actually... What's the... Are you guys from, like, Ghana, or where are you from? You must... You want to go... You fantasize, fantasize about Ghana women?
Starting point is 01:22:11 What are you even talking about? Because you love Garner. Like, Ghana is your thing. That's your kink? That's just... Is Ghana your kink? No, of course not. I would go crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:19 And I'm... You might be with black... You like that dark meat. Anyway... Yeah, I think he liked that dark meat. You mentioned Ghana a couple of times. It's a wonderful country. Huh?
Starting point is 01:22:30 What do you have against Ghana? Ghana's a great country. I don't. It's just not my country. A lot of Christians in Ghana. 50% of Africa. And that's why Christian, that's why Ghana's fucked up because Christianity's there.
Starting point is 01:22:39 What about, I know, I don't think that's the reason. Do you y'all know the doctrine of discovery? If I could. You got to do some African history. The doctrine of discovery is what you're used as a license
Starting point is 01:22:52 to enslave any other race of people. That's Christianity. No, it's not. No, it's not. Y'all call America manifest destiny. Yes, you did. They didn't slave anybody. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:23:04 Christopher Columbus enslaved the Taino Indians. I didn't talk about Christopher Columbus. I was talking about Jesus Christ. In the name of the Blessed Trinity, Columbus enslaved the Taino Indians. And then you enslaved the Mexicans, enslaved the Native Indians. Created a holiday called Thanksgiving, which is about the slaughter of them. And you think Christianity was good? No, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Christianity is diabolical. Christianity's been used to do evil. That's right. That's why I'm not saying put your faith in Christianity. It's as evil. That's why I'm saying don't put your faith in Jesus Christ. For the audience, I keep saying Christmas, because that's the theme of today.
Starting point is 01:23:37 The theme is Christmas. The Israelites married literally re-t and remarried on the Amiticites, for example. They did not read, no Amalekites. No they did not. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, 1st, Samuel 17. What does God say for the Israelites to do? He told them to wipe out every single one. Hey, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:59 He didn't say rape them. He didn't say wipe them. Whoa. mouth and what does Saul do? Whoa, whoa, whoa. So it's good? Hold on, hold on. You said, is it good to do?
Starting point is 01:24:07 Oh, shit. Yes. It's good to do? Why is it good to do? Because God said so. Because God said so. Why does Saul lose the throne? So if guys, why did Saul lose the throne?
Starting point is 01:24:17 I don't know how you're even defining God. You brought this up. Answer the question. Answer the question. Are you going to kill Bert? Are you going to kill Bert? I asked my question first. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I want to stay here. Are you going to kill Bert? Are you asked. I just want you all to know this is the proof that white people are behind black on black crime right there That doesn't mean any sense y'all Yes it does because you asked me
Starting point is 01:24:41 If God would let me kill another black man That's why it is so now Why did Saul lose the throne? Kill up because he spared the Amalekite He lost the fuck no Yes he did For many reasons Samuel came right to him and said
Starting point is 01:24:53 Yes it was Samuel came right to him I don't know why you do not know the Bible Fell on his sword bro You don't know the Bible Saw fell on his sword Pick it up on. I don't know my Bible. Because Samuel, Samuel came right to King Saul and said, why did you spread these amyla pikes? Why didn't you unaligned them too?
Starting point is 01:25:11 And Saul said, well, I wanted to give the best. I wanted to keep the best cow, the best, this, the best that. And he lost the throne to King David. So why would you bring that story up? He's going to kill the way. He lost his throne because he disobeyed God's order. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:26 And there was still a lot of asses that the Israelites made. There was no rach. constant idolatry and you know what and you know what but all the mistakes that israelites made every god still loved enough to sin christ that's why right god even used other civilizations to judge the israel you're right and what and what comes to those nations i'm not always right but i'm right on that one you're what is what comes to the other nations that judged israeli what happens to them not every single one was judged no no i said listen what i said listen which one you're going to talk about listen to what i said listen to what i said listen to what i said i've
Starting point is 01:26:00 Listen to you. I said what happens to them future tense, not bad. To judge the Jews for their immorality. I'm going to fuck him up if he doesn't pick it up. No, you're not. I am. If you lay a hand on him, you're not going to make it back to California. I'm not going to do it while you're here.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I'm going to do it. I'm telling you. I'm going to do it. Bert, I'm telling you, I'm going to find you if you don't pay him. No, you ain't find it. Whatever he finds you let me know, I'll pay him. Nah, fuck that. Fuck that.
Starting point is 01:26:26 No, fuck that. Fuck that. Pick it up, Bert. Nah, fuck that. If you think he's going to protect you for long enough, then take that back. If they believe you would do anything, I'm right here. He lives in New Jersey, Bert. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:37 You're in L.A. all the time. He ain't going to be there. I got a school in L.A. too. Cap Goddall, I give you the phone number. He'd do anything. They'll be there. They'll whip the shit out of this white boy. That's your thing.
Starting point is 01:26:47 You guys get whipsed. No, not this time. And he's the one who's going to need an army. You're going to need an army. An army? Yeah. I mean, we're way more powerful. Come on.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Not you right now. Not like one to one. You ain't going to jump on them now. You're going to wait to the big black guys. You got three of them versus one. I'm the only one going to do something. Yeah, well, I guess he's not going to do nothing. All you got to do is do something.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I'm not going to fight you. I think if I tell him, I mean, it's a rat. If you listen to him, he's the boss. Absolutely. What's his name again, Johnny? Katazar. That's not his name. That is his name.
Starting point is 01:27:20 No, it isn't. Do you guys believe it's real name is Katzhar? I mean, we protect black people over here. I mean, we protect black people over here. Where do you even come up with with the idea. It's like, Okay, from now on, you're not going to be Jamar. You pick the weirdest black names, man.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Yeah, Marcus, I'm, because you refuse to tell me what his real name is. I know his name is not Katazar. That's his name. His real name is Katazar, it's not an R on the end of it. Yep. No, they don't. It's not a R on the end of it. You know what it is?
Starting point is 01:27:48 It's almost like a transgender thing. It's like his mother and father, it's as ridiculous as it. You can tell you a white man. White man goes straight to some days. Good, good, exactly. Tell that I'm a white man. Jewish people go to. gay shit too by the way just so you know are you gay are you bisexual are you bisexual are
Starting point is 01:28:05 you fucking with her don't lie now don't try to buck break my brother right now that's the problem that's what that's what i'm gonna get you y'all always you ain't gonna do nothing man i am i'm gonna no i'm gonna send somebody after you birth stupid man anyways uh yeah i don't know the thing about your friend being what actually you got three schools in californ you tell me your real name His first name is Dr. Come on. You know what they say. It's like when you introduce yourself to be respectful, it's not respectful to give somebody a fake, phony name.
Starting point is 01:28:38 That's the name. That's his name. Just like my name is Tzaryat. Mr. Moderator, how much longer are you want to go? How much longer? Maybe like five, ten minutes? Oh, at least. Great.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Okay. Because I know soon Long Neck is coming. And then he's going to end up fighting and killing him or something like that. Anyways, yeah, let me ask another one. Do you, well, I guess we'll do this one real quick. It's just directed to you guys. Do you think I could beat Frank Cherry in a fight? PAM!
Starting point is 01:29:18 Oh, I think I could. Give me some training time. Do you know who Frank Cherry is? I don't know. Their whole religion is based on this guy who had a dream. He's sort of like Martin Luther King, but he wants to do. Like Joseph Smith? Yeah, but like in a literal way.
Starting point is 01:29:32 He literally had a dream. So they believe in this guy, Frank Cherry. I'm wondering if I could beat him in a fight. I don't believe Frank Cherry. I know who he is, but I don't believe. Oh, you don't think he kind of came. Well, he came up with the whole religion. Well, we actually, if you actually knew the history, like oral tradition,
Starting point is 01:29:48 Harriet Tubman and her whole family knew that they were Israelites too. Okay. We have family in our school that go back. But the whole thing kind of was started by the guy, Frank Cherry. If you want to talk about, if you want to talk. awesome woman of faith in Jesus Christ incredible right but she also was an Israelite she had a Hebrew name and everything fine but she believed in Jesus and she followed him not the black Jesus right yes she did yeah she believed in the black one
Starting point is 01:30:10 yeah she believed in the black one that's why they called her Moses where's the evidence of that so where's the evidence of what he's in our family they're in our family they're in our school we have her family is in our school I don't know a single person who thinks that you would you send you should know because she ain't a part of your family. She's not in your family. I said in our school, we have her family in our school. If somebody sends their kids to your school, they should get arrested for child in dangerment. Why would their child? And send them to the Roman Catholic church or a priest so they can get my, send them to that school? When they go to Sunday, what happened
Starting point is 01:30:45 when they go to Sunday school? They get me. Yeah, but they're not saying to send them to church instead of school. I'm saying to send them to school. Right. And they learn. No, but our kids are safe. No, no. They're not learning nothing. This they are. That's why we have lawyers. Didn't that we have a doctor's graduate college? If we're going by your- Didn't one of our guys graduated from college? One of our guys graduated from college, right?
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah, one of our guys. We got doctors, we got engineers, we have all that. We got land. We got people at all that. We got a guy. Pick your brain. That's fantastic. Keep going.
Starting point is 01:31:15 You get out the way. We're going to keep going. I'm not in your way. I'm not in people. I'm not impeding you. Hold on, man. That's incredibly judgmental. We got a guy here and pick your brain apart, and there's a 50-50 chance you'll survive.
Starting point is 01:31:27 And if it's successful. So you'll see how if you're right eye a little bit better. And we got an engineer as well. Yeah. He kind of knows how to get in the door if it's unlocked or something. Okay, anyways, let's move on. The best, man. We'll start with you guys on this.
Starting point is 01:31:43 If you had to describe the other debater as an animal, which would you choose? Not counting this guy who's obviously a horse. None of them are animals. They're all, I don't have to do that, and I would resist it. Okay, fine. All right? There's too much degradation. of human life going on in this world, and Christ calls us to insist that people are to be treated
Starting point is 01:32:04 respectfully for a reason. And the reason is, God made him with innate, intrinsic value and dignity. You say ape? God innate. And God loves him so much. He sent his son Christ to bleed and die on a cross to forgive them and give them eternal life. God loves you so much. He wants you to spend eternity with him in heaven. They're not a lot of people who want to spend eternity with me. I have an animal. Christ call him dogs. We call them dogs. No, I think Christ was called him you guys know no no yeah that's exactly what it was anyways let's move on um during the end times what do you think will happen to the other player that's a great question we'll start with you god will judge all of us fairly uniquely and justly right and all of us have sin so none of us
Starting point is 01:32:47 have lived a perfect life and we all are in desperate need of god's forgiveness and that's what god offers us through the death of his son christ on a cross forgiveness grace mercy when Jesus was dying on the cross, two thieves were hung on either side of him. The first thief turned to him and says, come on, miracle boy, save us from these crosses and we'll believe in you. Second criminal turns to the first criminal and says, you idiot, we bleed and die here because we deserve it. But this Jesus, he's in the innocent, holy, pure son of God. And the second criminal turns to Jesus and says, remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus doesn't say, get down and live a perfect life. He says, I tell you the truth, today you be with me in paradise.
Starting point is 01:33:23 That's grace. God's undeserved, unearned, unmerited. forgiveness and love. And that's what Christ offers to every one of us. That's what Frederick Douglass understood. And that is why I have so much respect for my devoted followers of Christ who are African American who have refused to give white people
Starting point is 01:33:41 white racists the power to turn them off to the true Jesus who did not have a racist bone in his body. And that's why my friends who were debating here today are making a crucial mistake if they reject Christ because he did not have a racist bone in his body. Obviously Christianity
Starting point is 01:33:57 he's been racist at times we all know that that's a fact historical fact but jesus did not have a racist bone in his body that's why putting your faith in him is so wise it's so smart great uh the bible says he who leadeth in the captivity shall go into captivity he's pronounced bible not bible he who killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword thus is the patience and faith of the saints so since all these christians we've been talking about historically led blacks latinos native indians the indigenous into captivity. Y'all are going into captivity. This is why I thank God for the light of the Gentiles. I thank God for Revelations, the second chapter, where it says that he who endorsed to the end, the same will I give power over the nations and we shall rule them with a rod
Starting point is 01:34:40 of iron. So I just think that that's justice. I think that's incredible. And God only loves the nation of Israel. And Christ only loves what God loves. And this is why we are the children and y'all are the dogs. And when you say... And John 4 and 22, Christ says salvation is of the Jews. Christ said, I am not sent, but into the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He didn't say he was for everybody. That is the epitome of what today they were called racism, but Christ called it salvation. Israel was under Roman rulership. They were scattered throughout the four corners. The only person that needed saving was the nation of Israel from the conditions that they're in, the same conditions that they're in today. The white man had his heaven. His heaven
Starting point is 01:35:22 is right now ruling. The Arabs had their heaven. The heaven is when they were ruling. Now it's time for Israel to rule. Christianity would teach you that everybody got to get this salvation together, but when y'all was establishing your salvation, y'all made sure y'all
Starting point is 01:35:38 got it yourselves. Y'all didn't care about no blacks and Latinos. You raped them. You killed them. You tortured them. You lynched them. You're systematically oppressive to this day. And you believe a just God is going to now let those same white people inherit the same heaven as the people that was oppressed that don't even make sense
Starting point is 01:35:57 logically the person that so that the per that's like telling the rick and the rick y'all got to go now live together in the same community that don't even make sense or unjust god would do that and that's what christians are unjust people land it right there so i just find it so interesting that everything you're setting up as ethically you are superior and more moral actually is all just bankrupt because you're saying a certain race is way higher than every other single race. First point. Second point, John 316, for God so loved the whole world that he gave his one and only son that whoever, whoever, whoever, that's more than just a black or white race,
Starting point is 01:36:35 believes in him will not perish but have eternal, eternal throughout time, passed into eternity. Life, life, third point, there are blacks in history. See, it's kind of like the pro-Palestinian lady. who was on the jet with me flying home from Mississippi, where she said there's not been a single Saudi Middle Eastern person who's ever been a terrorist. Kind of similar to what I'm hearing over here, where it's people take this racial superior position
Starting point is 01:37:06 and whether that's from an algorithm on social media or they were just trained and brainwashed early on in an early age, that's exactly what spreads hate. What Jesus Christ, the real Jesus Christ, who is a Jew and Middle Eastern, so he was neither of our colors, them down there, us historically he was the one who said the good Samaritan parable where it was even the Samaritan good Samaritan not good Jew who crossed boundaries ethnic socioeconomic and beyond in order to get to the Jew and Jesus uplifts Jews all the times as well
Starting point is 01:37:40 Paul Galatius 328 there is neither slave nor free Greek nor Scythian male nor female for all are created in God's image equality and love is what we stand for here in America and beyond America worldwide Israel etc love love is what we stand for in order to have love you have to know that all people are creating God's image and are equal great great so hold on what's what's your name again me no hit not you what was your name I know I know he's Cliff Stewart Stewart what's your name again so Kataza no it isn't so so so which which guys I'm not right Stuart this is horse the Bible says in
Starting point is 01:38:18 Ecclesiastes there's a time to love and a time to hate. So my question for you is, when's the time to hate? Jesus would never say, Jesus, well, yeah, I'm gathering my thoughts. You need to gather your thoughts a little bit more often before you speak. So Jesus would never say, show me in the Bible, where does Jesus ever say there's a time to hate? The time to hate, if you look at contextually, yet again, yet again, never any interpretation. Contextually, you bring a time to hate. Where in the world do you get biblically? The holistic perspective. So let me answer. That you're supposed to hate. No, that passage is talking about judgment. There's a time that justice will
Starting point is 01:38:56 rule. And he has a form, if you want to call a hatred, is a judgment that's happening. And so a certain people group or person will be judged, like the amalgates, like even the Israelites. I got a response. I got a response. Sorry I took a second to collect my thoughts, unlike somebody down here. When Christ beat the money changes out the temple, was that love or hate? Love for his father's temple. It was. So, wait, wait, you're right. Love for his father's Father's Temple, hate for what? Wait, wait, hate for what? We're listening down there, final. Hate for what?
Starting point is 01:39:24 Evil. In the fourth quarter, we're listening. So there is a time to hate. They say, like, evil. I'm going to hate and hate to hate it. And then, and then, there's a time to hate. Hating evil. Because that was hate for the money changes.
Starting point is 01:39:37 But now, here's the other point. I wish, Christian, I need a shirt that says John 314. You know what I'm saying? Because when it's John 314, I'm going to tell you, it says, and as Moses Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so shall the son of man. be lifted up yeah so this is a comparison so both of them have to be lifted up for the same reason and the same purpose this is why when it says whosoever that whosoever is who's under that criteria israel had a caste system israel had a problem with respect of persons so the
Starting point is 01:40:09 whosoever is whether rich or whether poor bond or free man or woman whosoever of israel because guess who moses lifted the serpent for israel so guess what christ had to to be lifted for Israel. Contextually, yet again. What was the reason for the serpent being on that? What's the whole reason? What was the reason? Why did Moses talk about the lifting up? So the whole point you understand was because of the healing of the nation. That's the entire purpose. So I'm answering. You asked me correct. Yet again, you understand. And guess who was being healed, Israel? You can't offer that to anybody. else the covenant isn't for anybody else the promise isn't for anybody else and i understand that
Starting point is 01:40:55 would you guys being on college campuses i i would feel the same way if i wasted my life too you understand reading a book that didn't belong to me because in john 17 and nine in christ says i pray for them i pray not for the world is that the everybody on the world too yeah yeah he's pray so he says i pray for Israel right there. He says, well, he's saying from those who are totally disregarding the gospel, I pray not for the world. Well, no, he says, I pray not for the world. So that means the word world has context. And 1 John 2 and 15, it says love not the world.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Neither are the things in the world. He who loves the world, the love of the father isn't in him. But Christ loved the world is the love of the father, not in Christ? What are we talking about? Context. Context. Isaiah 45 and 17 says, Israel. shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting
Starting point is 01:41:47 salvation. Ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. So the world is Israel in John 316. Isaiah used the word and Christ followed up and used the same word because we know Christ read the book of Isaiah he went right in the temple, opened up
Starting point is 01:42:03 Isaiah said, boom, they talk about the world. I want to save the world too. Let me tell him what God said before. Was Luke a Jew or a Gentile? He was an Israelite. He was an Israelite? He was an Israelite? That's the fact. Oh. Timothy israeli everybody in the New Testament
Starting point is 01:42:19 that received salvation was an Israelian do your history guys just check that one out okay please Luke was a Gentile this is why you don't want to be a cult leader I am a cult leader yeah exactly very sad
Starting point is 01:42:33 but it's not because my people get free from you and my coat we get free from you and your coat we die over trying to get Christmas gifts we get shot and go robbed and steal trying to get gifts over Santa Claus. And my cult, we live because we kick that
Starting point is 01:42:49 shit out on the street somewhere. So I would rather have my cult obeying God than your cult dying. Let me ask you, were Jews reaching out to Romans and Gentiles, especially after Jesus' death? No. Historically, they were not reaching out to them? In Romans 10 and
Starting point is 01:43:05 1, Paul said, I'm answer. I'm going to answer. I'm going to answer. They weren't becoming Christians. They were called Christians. You're going to quote a verse. I love this. You're going to quote a verse and you're not going to go to any form of history. Any historical textbook will tell you
Starting point is 01:43:18 that specifically What's that book Captain Meshack pulled out to Robbins? The, uh, and other medieval year. You said it again? There's a good book
Starting point is 01:43:28 you can get called me. What is the guy's name? Captain Yos Chabot? Meshach. Dude, he's a matter of reference, Captain Moshchow. In the history of medieval Europe,
Starting point is 01:43:35 you got to listen to this. In the history of medieval Europe, it's about it's about it really good. They'll tell you, in the history of medieval Europe, they'll tell you Christ was a revolutionary who was only about Israel. And Paul's writings, Romans 10 and 1, my heart's desire and prayer to God is for Israel that they might be saved.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Romans 11 to 26 and so Israel shall be saved as it is written. James 1 in 1 to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad, not to a white, an African, a Chinese that's scattered, to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad. So you take those letters and then you send those letters out. The letters are to the audience that is written to. If I write a letter to Katzai, New York, and one of y'all get it, y'all can read it all you want. It's for Katzai.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Katzai are going to find it and say, hey, man, how long y'all are going to hold my records? And that's what we're saying in my coat. How long y'all are you going to hold our record? And by the way, they didn't lie on the record. Don't even do a good job with the record. You got Jesus white, Mary, White, the Israelites white, God, white. What? They got all these people
Starting point is 01:44:42 They're not in the Bible They're not in the Bible That's how far Dr. Dr. Maca Jock. Jesus was not a Republican or a Democrat He was a Israelite though Yeah, he sure was
Starting point is 01:44:52 And he was about Israelite business No, he's... Yes, he was. No, he was the good Samaritan. The Good Samaritan was an Israelite, that's right Because now here's how you get cut on that If you know the history When the Samaritans...
Starting point is 01:45:06 If you knew the history, it'd be very helpful. No, you don't. Samaritans got put out. Did they bring up? Bring Israelites back to teach them how to serve that God, yes or no. Answer the question. No, I'm not going to answer your question with a yes, no answer. You die, like I said.
Starting point is 01:45:20 You're not willing to think. You die in your doctrine. You would think you wouldn't demand a yes, no answer. I've never demanded a yes, no answer of you. That's intellectually dishonest. Totally dishonest. You die in your doctrine. Yeah, you've said that already now.
Starting point is 01:45:33 I know, because you die. He needs to repeat it a couple times so he can remember. Let me let you know. You're not listening. Come on. Listen. And second, yeah, in Second Kings, the 17th chapter, the Israel is a Gentile. I thought he was going to say he just passed second grade.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Yeah, they didn't come back. I know. Thank you. And that's the Samaritan and Yahwehshah or Christ was talking about. That's why he's called good. He would never call y'all good. But he called y'all a dog. He called y'all dogs.
Starting point is 01:46:02 He looks objectively a lot more like a dog than any of us. And that's the true. But you guys latch on to that. That is very, very unfortunate. It's very intellectually dishonest. It violates the context totally. It don't violate the Bible. 100%.
Starting point is 01:46:16 It does not violate the Bible. Oh, yeah. You mean your interpretation is the right one. Poloni. You need to get out and really study. Did Christ say he was only sent for Israel? Read in context, respect literary style, and look at Jesus. Did he say it?
Starting point is 01:46:29 Yes or no. Did he say it? I've already told you I don't give you yes, no answer. I don't give anybody yes. Well, you want to answer the question. I answer the question. Okay, so you don't like the answer. That's your problem.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Did Christ say I'm only sent to the law? lost sheep of the house of Israel? For now, yes. He did say that. And then he also reached out to Gentiles. Did the lost sheep ever get recovered? He also reached out to Gentiles. Did the lost sheep get covered? He also reached out to Gentiles. And you know where the Gentiles are? The scattered and dispersed Israelites who are living in Galatia and Rome and scattered, which is why the letter of James says to the 12 tribes
Starting point is 01:47:02 which are scattered abroad. Greetings. Yeah. And so here's the thing. Is James a letter written to everybody or just the 12 tribes? It's a letter written to everybody. You see the problem? Wait, wait. It says James, a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ. And it says, two, the 12 tribes that are scattered abroad.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Y'all come in mail fraud. Did Jesus reach out to a Roman centurion? Did Jesus reach out to a Roman centurion? Okay, so now, when it comes out of a centurion, I got you. No answer. Were there or were there not Jews? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, were there not Jews in the Roman military?
Starting point is 01:47:39 Was Rome an ethnically diverse military? Let's talk about history. See, they want to talk about history all of a sudden? All of a sudden? So I'm asking you a question to gauge what you know or not. It's either you know or not. Tell us. Like, am I wasting my time or not?
Starting point is 01:47:56 Because there was absolutely Jew, every single empire that Rome occupied, the first thing that they would do is they would take men to fill the ranks of their army. And guess who was involved inside these armies? Hellenized Jews were a part of that army. Rome is a multi-ethically diverse nation. That's true. And then on top of that, you have a title of Centurion. Centurion is not a race.
Starting point is 01:48:19 And the fact that you know, the tax credit. And the fact that you know that the one that Christ dealt with was his people was because he didn't try to send her away like the Cyril Phoenician. But when that woman of Canaan came through, you know what he said? Send her away. How about Takias? That's what he did. That's what he did.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Why don't you stick with where we're at? Yeah, I know, I know. I keep naming so many Gentiles. You want to talk history, I talk history. It's just long history. I mean, you can talk history and just make it up if you like. And notice the rhetoric. If you gave you a shot the answer, you chose not to.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Okay, well, let's move on to the... No, no, I wanted to get taught first. Hold on a second. We're going to move on to the final question. We went for a long time. I know that you guys don't have much longer. It's a little bit dark out. They don't got stamina.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Good. We've got plenty of stamina. Don't worry. Anyway, yeah. So, what will happen to Long Neck after he dies, considering that it would be hard to call him white, it would be hard to call him Jewish, and he's sort of an evil guy,
Starting point is 01:49:20 but not evil in the way that he's doing evil things, but evil in the way that he's pure evil. Evil is real? Jesus Christ insisted that one form of evil is. No, him. Is he wrongness? He's long neck. Long neck, the media influencer on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:49:38 I can't look at him. Yeah, I can't use my phone. He's the next guest. I mentioned him earlier. That's who you're going to be fighting. Oh, I don't know who that is. He's coming in in about five minutes. That's also why we have to stop the show.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Oh, okay. So you can fight long neck. If he touches me, I mean, you can defend yourself. I don't stop fights. But you're cool. No one's attack you. But we believe in self-defense. No, long-ne-hast you.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Slow down. As you're such a challenging guy. He asked me if I was going to fight this guy. I said if he hits me. I'm answering his question. Can you turn the other cheek? I'm not turning the other cheek. No, that's not what Christ's up.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Christ said turn the other cheek to your brother, not to another man hitting you. Oh. I would say long neck, he's more like an animal. That's the biggest twisting of that I've ever heard. I'd say he's more closer to that, y'all. It's scary. Christ did not say turn the other cheek if it's a person, this type of person. You should teach your people what you're teaching me.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Wait, wait, because they've never turned the other cheek. You only murder. That's baloney. I've got a lot of friends who have turned the other cheek. Your race of people. only murder. You're blinded by your hatred, sir. I'm blinded by what happened. Hey, are the Jewish man right to hate the Germans? Yes, because it's not about them being German. It's about the crime they committed. When I'm talking about white people, it's what you have historically done to us.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Get more angry. More angry. Let your hatred flow. I'm not angry. I'm not angry. I'm not angry. I'm not angry. I don't, I don't necessarily want to do this, but if I don't necessarily want to do this, but if I smack the shit out of you right now, you just to turn the other cheek? Yeah, absolutely. Can I smack the head of all? I'm about to say. Slap me. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:51:12 You go turn the other cheek. I'm giving you an opportunity. All right. He said I can't do it. Oh, so he's your God. Is he? If he gave me the order, though, I'll smack the dog. Shit out you.
Starting point is 01:51:25 All right, go ahead. Because you're racist. Snack the living day like I'm out of it. Come on, guys. You guys are so funny and scary. I know he wouldn't. So. scary. Come on, hit me, Nottie. If he tells you, hit me, right? He's your God then. That's scary.
Starting point is 01:51:40 You're inviting it. You're asking for it. I told you that I will turn the other cheek. And you challenge me. I think you're a hypocrite. If I hit you, will, I can't guarantee it. You see the problem? So then you don't follow Christ. That's what I said. I don't believe you. He said, I pray I will. I don't know if I really will. You know what that means? You know what that means? You know what it means? What it means is you don't really mean that. What you mean is that you baiting it. What you mean is your

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