The Matan Show - Cliffe & Stuart Knechtle Heated Debate vs Rabbi Mizrachi

Episode Date: October 25, 2026

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Please welcome in the rabbis. Rabbi Agadjani and Rabbi Mizrahi please welcome in thanks for coming please welcome in the Christians for today which will be Cliff and Stuart Natchel please also welcoming the moderator welcoming the moderator Durdon and then today's co-host will be Mike but he's peeing

Mike will be here in a second go on this side yeah sit here man he'll sit there the moderator will be there so what are you just up as today one of those guys still smiling? Where the boys from over here? I'm Connecticut.

Connecticut. Yeah, purple county. Nice. Nice. In the city or? I'm in Queens. Oh, nice. Rigo Park.

You get some good candy here. Feel free to eat as you like. Okay, great. So if we could start with you, I guess. Could you guys just introduce yourselves to anybody who might not know you and hold that one? Starting with his right here. Starting with, yeah. Yeah, good afternoon. My name is Rabbi Yosef Mizrahi. I speak and teach Judaism for 32 years worldwide and mainly in English, also in Hebrew, made thousands of videos and clips, made some debates, some podcasts that became famous and influenced the life of many people. This is in a brief description.

Okay, Rabbi Agadjani. I'm the jeweler from the Diamond District And they're dressed up today as a jeweler Or are you a jeweler I'm dressed up today as somebody who's going on a Bums podcast A BOMS podcast, look at this You know how much this outfit cost At least $200.

All right And no more than that Right Okay, now you guys My name's Cliff And it's a privilege to be back with you Thanks for coming back Yeah Stuart

Glad to be here Now last time they were debating Black Israelites who I think would have defeated them in a fight. I think they would defeat you guys, though. They're going to defeat us? I think they could. Are you guys going to fight?

Can you guys do that now? Then everybody will be a little crazier for the debate. They have a point to make. I don't know what the discussion is. But, you know. So you don't want to fight just yet? No, I don't need to fight them. Okay.

We'll start with this. We started in a similar direction last time. Right. Where does everybody believe Jesus is right now? Only God knows. It's a big mystery. First question, you have to ask if he even existed. That's the first question.

After you come to a final 100% proof that there was such a person, then you have to ask yourself where he is now. But I think it's not in our hand to know. And today we're going to discuss some of the things and some of the claims that we hear around, and we will clarify some of the things with some solid proofs. And is it true? We discussed this last time, but you never gave a clear answer.

That either you or some other Jewish people believe, some other rabbis, that Jesus is boiling in excrement. I never heard about it. I never claimed it. Did you ever hear it for me? Last time you implied it could be true. You said, I don't know. Well, you have to understand.

I told you last time. People that follow the laws of God, which is the book of the Torah, what the Christians called the Old Testament. They follow it. They are righteous and they are being rewarded and they go to heaven. People that contradict the laws of God and do the opposite of that, they have to deal with the consequences of their action.

Some of those consequences are that they're going to hell after they die. And in hell, there are different places where the people are judged. So if he was righteous, he's in heaven. If he was wicked, it is in hell. But it's true that it depends what God takes. At least some Jews believe he's boiling in shit. I don't know. I hope that's not the case.

Okay. That's a whole faith. Okay. And, you know, it's not going to do anybody any good. I guess there's some story in the problem. Where do you believe Jesus is right now? That's not a question I can answer. You're here as a rabbi.

Right. You know, according to, you know, Christian theology, he's one with the father. According to you? Right. According to me, I don't know. You don't know. I'm a jeweler. not a priest he came to hear the debate mainly and to you know to reach some conclusions but the notion

of this excrement business you know what I'm saying we got to put an end to it no but he has to make it juicy he's trying to make some no well that's what a lot of him believe for everything is trying to instigate between two nice people on both sides of his shoulders right he's trying to make you know for the for the rating for the it's like I have a devil on this shoulder and a devil on the other shoulder. It's not going to work for you. We already friends. We met outside. We didn't come here to fight. We came to have polite, polite argument. They make their claims. I'll make the claims. And the people will decide. Okay, fine. So where do you guys believe Jesus is right now? Well, I'm convinced that Jesus is in heaven, which is life in a different dimension. I'm

convinced that I can't prove that. So I don't have 100% certainty. In fact, I think if we're all going to be intellectually honest with each other, we're going to have to admit that none of us have. 100% certainty. It's impossible to be 100% certain. There's always a possibility that I don't understand reality totally. We all have faith. And biblical faith is a response to evidence. And the evidence is Jesus lived a sinless life. He taught amazing teachings. He died on a cross, forgiving and loving his enemies. He rose from the dead. And based on that historical evidence, I put my faith in Christ. And he ascended to heaven and he's coming back a second time. He promised, but that belief is based on the evidence that Jesus is reliable. What do you think,

Stuart? Well, we worship a Jew, for sure, to begin with. He and Matanzi. Which is already a miracle. Yeah, yeah, there you go, exactly. So he's ascended to the Father, but we don't know what ascended to the Father, sitting at the right hand of the Father exactly looks like, is that literal, or does he actually on a chair? I doubt it, but he has ascended. And I take that because I honor the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. Nobody like standing all the time. I sure it would be more ideal. Facts, facts, true.

He is God, though, at the same time. So he could, you know, sit, stand, whatever he wants to do. So for me, it comes down to the reliability of the Gospels. Do I find them reliable or not? And I think they are solid historically as well as the Old Testament. Okay, great. And what do you think is the, we'll start with you guys this time, is the biggest flaw in the other person's argument in their religion?

The biggest flaw is answering the question, who is Jesus by saying he was just a rabbi? He was just a good teacher or he was just a bad teacher. The reason I say that's a flaw is because he does not allow that due to the extreme nature of his claims. In John 858, he says before Abraham was born, I am, and John was a Jew. And Jesus was a Jew. And clearly as Jewish men, they understood that God, Yave, is I am who I am. and Jesus took the name of the eternal pre-existent God I am and applied it to himself, and his listeners had no problem understanding.

They picked up stones to stone him for blasphemy. Now, why would I believe that Jesus, a first century Jew, is more than a man? Because three days after he died on the cross, he physically bodily rose from the dead, and over a period of 40 days, he appeared to over 500 people, who saw him risen from the dead, according to a very fine Jewish man who was a Pharisee named Saul of Tarsus, who became the Apostle Paul. So we're talking about a very Jewish faith. And therefore, anti-Semitism in the name of Christianity

is a total contradiction. It's hypocrisy. As a follow of Christ, I worship a Jew, but I'm convinced he's more than just a man because he claimed to be God in human form. And then he backed it up with a sinless life, amazing ethical teachings, a death on a cross where he forgave his enemies,

and then a resurrection from the dead. What about anti-Semitism in the name of saving the world? Is that okay? No. It wouldn't be okay to be anti-Semitic to save the world? Nope. Because that's a false understanding of saving the world. You don't save the world by 80 people.

What if somebody put me in a position where I had to be anti-Semitic or he would drop a nuclear bomb that would destroy the whole world? Well, then you better make a decision whether it's right to sacrifice your life for what is true. Is it right to sacrifice your life for human beings? I don't even have to be a little anti-Semitic so the bomb don't drop. Don't worry. Even he thinks it's okay. And to what they say?

said about Jesus, he rose from the dead. What's your response, Tracks? Well, listen, I mean, it's a matter of faith. It's an extraordinary miracle that a Jewish man was able to, you know, become the center of the entire European civilization. You go to Europe. You go to every single city. In the center is the biggest cathedral, the biggest church, and inside is a crucified

Jewish man, you know, on a cross. sounds like you're gloating well listen that's an extraordinary thing you know knowing the Jewish people that that doesn't usually happen that that type of worship right so there's something obviously a spiritual connection to God that it's going to be hard to deny okay your response okay so let's do it in the right order you have to focus on what I say so according to the Christian belief is God gave the Torah to the Jewish people in a public event in Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago.

Muslims and Christians do not deny it. The whole religious people, you know, from all three religions, admit that the Jews received the Torah directly from Moses in front of the nation and speaking with God. Everyone heard the voice of God. And he gave them the Torah.

Now, 300 years later came the New Testament, which is part two of God's book, right? It's the same God, same creator, same author. he gave book number one and now he's giving a continuation. There's only one problem. When you go to part two, you see that it contradicts the Torah

in thousands of subjects, dates, names. It does not make any sense. Give you just one simple example as the gentleman's claim that Jesus is God or God came into his body and all of that. I'll just give you a quote from the book of Matthew.

Matthew 20 Matthew Matthew 21 this is what's written over there and before before Jesus died this is what he said Eli Lama Zafthani God God why did you leave me you know so if he's God

why he's asking God that he left him if you God is supposed to save yourself if people come to kill you and you can't even protect yourself how exactly you're going to protect billions of people in the world and save them, where you can't even help yourself. I'll give you one other example. In the book of Matthew, chapter 5, verse 17 to 19, he's giving a speech.

You believe in the book of Matthew? I don't believe in any Christian book. For me, it's one billion percent clear. Just like we know, it's day outside. It's clear 100 percent that these books had nothing to do with God. Well, you just went down a law. You started at a billion, and within a couple of seconds. you went to 100. Is there room for less than 100? Maybe we could get to 50.

One, the chance that Christianity has anything to do with the creator of the world, it's 0%. There's not even 1% chance. I can prove it to you beyond... Again, you change again. You said zero, you went from zero. Not beyond reasonable doubt, beyond any doubt. You know, I already made one... But you went from 0%... You went from 0 to less than 1, which could imply 0.99. Again, zero percent chance. Now we're about to zero. That has anything to do with the creator of the world.

I already made one famous debate with a Christian professor. We teach Christianity for 30-something years at that time. Everybody can watch it and see that he did not have one answer to answer. But let me give you another example. But let them respond to that first. No, no, but it's the same answer. I don't finish my answer. So in the book of Matthew, chapter 5, verse 17 to 19,

Jesus come to his followers to his students and this is what he say do not think I came to contradict the Torah I did not come to contradict the Torah I only came to explain and fulfill anyone who will change one letter from the Torah or one of the commandments of the Torah even the smallest one and will instruct people otherwise than what's written will be cursed by the kingdom of heaven meaning God God will curse him. And yet you see the Christians today that follow Christianity, now one of them keep one of the commandments of the Torah, none of it.

They completely contradict the Torah. They eat pork. They do not observe the Sabbath. They do all kinds of things that the Torah forbid the followers of God to do. Now, I would like to read to you something from your book. You tell me, please, how do you... From yogurt? Tell me how do you explain that.

The people that made up the story about Jesus, Jesus, they were not knowledgeable in Jewish law. They say this is what's written over there, that they brought Jesus to a trial. This was passed over Eve. They brought him to the house of the high priest, the Cohen Gadol. And then they ruled that he has to be executed. The next day, they crucified him. They didn't know that the Jewish law required the Sanhedrin, the big court of 71 judges,

to announce 40 days before the execution, for anyone who has something to say for the person's protection before they execute him, to come and make their claim. So it was impossible. It's impossible that today they ruled that someone has to die and tomorrow it will already be executed. That's a complete lie. It never happened.

All right, I'm going to jump in now. You're going off the wall here. You made a statement that you can prove that God spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai. Yes. Now let's be intellectually honest. Nobody can prove that God spoke to anybody. You can't prove that.

You cannot prove that God spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai. That is absolutely impossible. Maybe you'll put together some evidence, but it's impossible to prove. To prove means to show that it cannot be another way. Secondly, obviously Jesus was nailed to a cross, and obviously he was nailed to a cross because he claimed to be God in human form. That's blasphemy. Now, I can't prove to you that Jesus rose from the dead, but the historical evidence is he really died on the cross, was buried, and three days later he rose from the dead, and over a period of 40 days, he appeared over 500 people who saw him risen from the dead.

Can you prove all this claim? I can't prove that I'm not a bad dream you're having right now, sir. To prove means to show it cannot be another way. I can't prove anything. Instead, as a thinking of human being, I base my life on evidence, evidence reliability. You can't prove to me that this gentleman doesn't have a knife he's going to stick in your back But the evidence is very likely this guy is a nice guy He's not going to stick a knife in your back

Therefore he didn't rifle through his pockets before you sat where you're sitting You don't base your life on proof that is so intellectually dishonest it's scary you base your life on evidence All right evidence is he's reliable that's why you trust him you don't rifle through his pockets to look for the gun of the knife Okay, let me just because I'm letting because of the color of my skin I was in a me of proving something you cut me off you didn't prove anything so no I was in the middle of it no you're not in the middle of it's really out anything you haven't I started to prove he's about approved the whole thing give him a second he's about

shut down the whole debate for the rest of humanity give him a second here so now let's let's clarify one thing Christians are admitting that the Torah is the word of God they never denied it they actually I can never show that any book is the word of God how on earth the intellectually honest person say I don't this book is the word of God You have to make you make up your mind. If you are a Christian, the solid foundation of Christianity that it came out of Judaism. The Christian never denied the Jews received the Torah from God in front of millions of witnesses.

Actually, they discussed it in every church in a world. So you're trying now to rewrite history. It's not going to work for you. You have to stick to your own religion. I am listening to what you say and I'm responding to what you say. I am not talking to the majority of Christians who live for the past 2,000 years. Christian deny the Jews, got the Torah from God in Mount Sinai. Do they deny it?

Yes or no? Many Christians today deny the Bible as the word of God. Today, they view it as an interesting book. The religion wasn't given today. I'm talking the first Christians. Sure. Get into the culture that you live in, sir. In the culture in America today, the majority of Christians don't believe the Bible's a word of God.

The majority of Jews that I talk to don't believe the Torah is the word of God. They believe it's an interesting work of literature. Come on, guys, be honest. Orthodox, conservative, reform. Do you believe this? The majority of my friends who are Jewish are reformed. So think. Do you believe the Torah is the word

work of God or the word of God? Forget about what other people you know and the going on. Hold on for a second, tracks. Yeah. I wanted to get back into the evidence. Can we go to the evidence real quick? Yes, please. All right. So, you know, the New Testament that called the Torah.

Want to give the evidence we can end the debate. The new testament that called the Torah the Old Testament, meaning it's the word of God, right? It cannot contradict the first book of God if it's the same God, right? That's right. Okay, so now, according to their book, they executed Jesus on Passover. Now, it's against the Torah. Nobody was ever...

The Jews did not execute Jesus. The Romans did. No, I know. But the execution was, the execution can never be on Yomtov. If they claim in their book that Sanedrin, the Jewish court, actually sent seem to death and the next day it was already executed something like this could have never happened because nobody is executed on the Sabbath or on the holiday the Romans executed people all days of the week hold on a second and they hung on across all right there's no point you're making

that's valid can I say something can I ask you say whatever you want to okay have you ever asked the goyam to do something for you on the Sabbath now even that is not allowed have you ever done it have you ever had a go on turn on the lights for you only you don't have not have a shabby's going. Only if it's for a sick person, there are rules about it. But in general, we're not asking Gentiles to do anything. I thought a lot of the time the Jews will hire black people and they'll turn the lights on and off and open the refrigerator. No, that's only for the sake of the public and for the sake of the sick people. The sake of the public, that's a horrible look that they have people doing that. You should try to hide that as much as possible.

All right. So again, we are not allowed to tell a Gentile to desecrate the Sabbath for us. They're allowed to do it for themselves. But you're allowed to go like this. You're allowed to go, woo-hoo. I didn't tell him anything. Refigrator, please. You just have to keep it hidden or no? Is it allowed? You can, if you want a hint, and they do it on their own, it's a different story.

But to give it their own. What a dumb trick. Why would that's nonsense? That's the same thing. So maybe they did that with the Romans is all I'm trying to say. All right, now can I finish one? I got you to concede there. I got you to concede. No. The debate is currently. Where some see heroes and others see egos.

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And by the way, I just want to mention real quick, so I to interrupt you. The winner of the debate will receive $130 Fortnite gift card and two Among Us VR codes on MetaQuest. And I got a question when we're ready for me over here. Just one second. In the book of Matthew, pages 16, Jesus said to his student, I'm telling you today, anyone of you who's the winner, anyone of you is standing here today will not. die until they see my kingdom on humanity he never been a kingdom on humanity he was transfigured right after that the Messiah and they saw him in his glorified form that's a simple one come on now let's get

hard according to the Messiah according to the Torah the Messiah has to gather all the Jews into Israel no the temple build the temple for God and win the wars against all the enemies of Israel so far we have plenty of enemies we didn't see that Jesus helped us in any way. He did not find any one of our enemies, and he did not gather any Jew to Israel, to the best of my knowledge. Jesus will express his power when he comes to a second time.

The first time he came to give his life. On the cross. And leave an illusion that he did what the Torah said that he has to do. So far, none of that had happened. But now I'm going to give you a killer proof that after that you probably won't have what to say. You're going to go back to proof? Yeah, with your book. No, no, no, no.

There's no, no, there's no. From your own book. From your own move anything. Start thinking with us. Evidence, sir. Evidence, yes. Evidence, yes. Evidence.

Evidence. All right, fine. He's about a proven. Hold on. Evidence. Now, according to the Torah, believing means not knowing. Christianity is all based on faith. You want to believe, you believe, you don't want to believe.

Nothing can be proven. That's good. That's good. You're right. The question is, nothing can be proven. What is faith? Biblical faith is a response to evidence. But in a to...

It's not proven. Biblical faith is not blind. Biblical faith is a response to evidence. The evidence is God exists. Therefore, we believe God exists. The evidence is Jesus lived the sinless life, taught amazing teachings, died on a cross and rose from the dead. That's why I believe it. So remember, biblical faith is not proven and biblical faith is not blind faith.

Biblical faith is a response to evidence. All right. So now in the Torah, which they admit is the book of God, it's written to the Jews. Do you know? You have to know I'm your God. You have to know I'm your God. The whole nations of the world should know I'm God. You should know there's no other God but me above the heavens and under the earth.

There's no other God but me. Yes. In the Ten Commandment, it's say you should not have any other God but me. That's right. But it's talking about knowledge. Nowhere it says you have to believe I'm your God. You have to believe I will save you. You have to believe that I manage and run the world.

There's no such thing. Abraham didn't have faith. Abraham had faith. Okay, thank you. Abraham had a bunch of faith. He acknowledged because God spoke to it. Yeah, he also had knowledge of God. When God speaks to you, you have knowledge.

You don't depend on, you don't rely on faith. Oh, yes, you do. The only way you can have a relationship is through faith. Again, you're going to trust a person. You don't. Believing means not knowing. You ask any science. Leaving means not knowing?

Yes. No, that's false. I believe. When a science, say, we believe that next month, this and this is going to happen. That means there is a doubt if it will happen. If they know for sure it's going to happen, they say we know that's what's going to happen. When I say, I believe next month something will happen in a stock market, everybody knows it's questionable. All your culture and fate is all fate.

It's just an illusion. Someone told you a story and you based your entire life and future based on some fairy tale that someone say, but you don't have one proof or one piece of evidence. but I will bring you an evidence from your own book that your entire story, it's a made-up story. It never happened. You're assuming I have a view of the New Testament that I have not said I have.

You are so prejudiced. You believe in the New Testament? You believe in the New Testament? I believe in Jesus Christ. The New Testament is an accurate historical record of how Jesus lived, while it died and rose from the dead. So if I want to find out about Jesus,

yes, I got to read the New Testament. Okay. And the New Testament, who wrote? it. Many different people wrote the New Testament and many people wrote the Old Testament as well. Many Jews. Okay. Did it come from God or people made it up? Neither. You see, you're drawing a false distinction. It's not from God. It's a historical record and once you begin to experience the trustworthiness of God, then you have a reason to trust the Torah, to trust the New Testament as the word of God. But until you experience the trustworthiness of Christ in your life, you have no

reason to believe that this book is the word of God. Prove to me that any book, I don't care if it's the Torah, the New Testament, the Quran, is the Word of God. How are you going to prove that any book is the Word of God? It's impossible, guys. Nobody can do it. It's very possible. How do you prove any book is the Word of God? I'll tell you how.

How? If the book is full of prophecies that each one of them is against all odds, no person could predict such thing. And then throughout history, you see that all the prophecies of the Torah all of them happen when yet in Christianity you don't have one prophecy actually they try constantine 1800 years ago try to give one prophecy in Christianity that the Jews after they punished and the second temple was destroyed there will never go back to the Holy Land and when the Jews came back to the Holy Land and established

themselves a country and a state they ask the Christian Church what do you have to say about the mistake in your in your one prophecy that you try to give and their answer was the Vatican does not recognize the state of Israel. Did you ever hear a dumb answer? You have just got a great job stepping into a horrible hole of pit. The Bible never says in the Old Testament or the New Testament that the Jews are going to come back to the promised land in 1940s. Never says that. And that's not the claim. First of all, it does say. No, it does. Where in the Bible does it say the Jews are going to come back to the promised land in the 1940s? Come on. No, I didn't say 1940s. It says that I will gather.

you from all the nation and bring you back to the land of your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, I will gather you from all the exiles and I'll bring you into Israel. There are many, many prophets to speak about those. They return from exile. It's called Kibbutz Galio. That's an historical fact. That's Alephbe. That's the first step that everybody knows.

I mean, you're the first time that I hear somebody Christian that claims that God never promised to the Jews that he collect them from all the nations and bring them into the promised land. Now, if you... In the 1940s, yes. I didn't say 1940s. I didn't say 1940s. Where did you, when did you hear me say in the promised land?

You never said the 1940s. Okay, so I just said that God promised to the promised to the promised land. And that's obviously happened in the 1940s, but that was not predicted by the Bible. But the Jews now live in Israel? Yes or no? Some Jews. A fraction of the Jews live in Israel.

According to the one prophecy... You don't live in Israel. You're a Jew. According to the one prophecy that you're made up religious. region tried to give. He's a house in the West Bank. One prophecy you try to give. He's expanding. And that promise has to be complete faults. Now, if the one prophecy, the one prophecy that Constantine, 1800 years ago. You've got to be kidding me. What does Constantine have to do with the New Testament? He was the Pope. The dude lived over 300 years after the fact. Let me ask you

question. Come on, man. Think. How many years after Jesus Christianity started, do you know? Yeah, it started right with Jesus. A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. When the evangelist that started to write book, Luke, Matthew, John, Luke's Markson? What, how many years after Jesus died? They started to tell the fairy tales about his life. Do you know? The oral tradition started right after the resurrection of Christ.

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ever saw it started seven years after he does You're not, you're totally fine. You're telling me stories about a grand grandfather. The problem is not written as fairy tale. You could say it's not true, but it's written as historical documentation. That's the problem. Any good, literally, I mean, C.S. Lewis, for example, any good literary critic will say, it's not written as fairy tale.

You can't say it's fairytale. You can say it did not happen. It's fiction or it's non-fiction. I got a question. So for you just stepping right in, just saying that just shows that you haven't done your homework. Okay. All right. Historically, you should be historically, guys.

We could go back and forth a day and night here. But here's the good. news okay let's say there was no Jesus here's the good news my my gold is 20% off for Halloween that's right on tracks my C dot com but let's let's let's say this if there was no Jesus you right that wasn't even an anti-semitic going on with these go to go em right now would it be better or would it be good I'm asking you right first of all they also see this question was asked to the greatest rabbi ever lived in America I'm asking you by a Vigdo Miller what's better for

America to be a country of or to be a country of Christians what's the question the question is that according to the Torah the Christians are idle worshipers They worship keeping a human being talking about I mean they have Abraham They have Isaac they have Jacob Let me finish I'll explain then you won't have a question Okay, according to the Torah anyone worship anyone but God is an idol worshipers Jews and Gentiles Who worship anyone before we get into the idol worshiping I have a quick question for you I wanted to ask this for a couple of minutes.

I'm answering him his question. I know, but then you can ask you question right after. Okay, fine, fine. All right. So according to the Torah, Jews and Gentiles, no difference, they worship anyone but the creator of the world, God himself, and it's in the Second Commandments of the Ten Commandments, is subject to a debt penalty and eternal cut for their soul in the afterlife.

So any kind of worshiping someone besides God, claiming he has a son, claiming there is another God, claiming this Buddha is the God, or anything like that, that's consider idol worshipping. Now, they ask Rabbi Avidavilla, what's worse? To live in a country

that people have, they have ethics, they follow some of the ethics of the Torah, many of the laws that the Torah has, Christians adopted. So to live in society when they are idol worshipers, but at the same time, they are more ethical people than atheists and criminals.

Or should we live in a country that nobody believes in any fake religion, but they don't believe in God. What on earth? Does this have to do with anything? Should we live in a country? I'm answering him. So the answer of the big rabbi was, better that we live among the Christians, even though they worship someone else but God. All right, good. It's better to live among them because at least they have more ethics. What's your point? And I'm answering you. Give you guys a a compliment. I'm getting lost. Just, just answer it. So he's saying it's better. meaning as horrible as it is that you guys are idol worshipers.

All right. Fine. We got it. We got your point. And according to God, every Jew and a Gentile, that is an idol worship, is subject to the worst punishment that God has to offer. All right. Why do you believe that? Because there's no evidence to support that.

It's an interesting. It's written in a Torah. You should not have any other gods but me and right next to it. It says that it's an eternal cut. So. Who do you listen to you? Watch the evidence is reliable. Better to live among idol worshipers that have manners and they will form society.

So you can be an atheist and be a Jew. Again. You can be a Jew and be an atheist. He asked me where would we be without Christianity? Where will be? You can be a Jew and be an atheist, sir. You can go to places, liberal places. Jews have beliefs that are all over the law.

Liberal places. I respect Jews. I'm listening to. When you think, liberal Jews and liberal Gentiles, they don't believe. I was going to say I don't think liberal Jews and liberal Gentile they don't believe in God. They want to form a country of Saddam and Gamora. When you don't believe in God, you have no fear from God. Right.

So if we live in a country of atheists and infidels and heretics who don't believe in God and they just think that there are one more species in nature and live like animals, that's worse. than living with Muslims who believes in God or Christian that believe in God, but the Christian believe in another God. All right. Thank you for your hearing. We're right. We're in.

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and this is a question for you yes will hashem give me a double penetrating on camp terald if i place a note asking for it in the whaling wall skip to the next question and get and grow up already. What's the, what's the problem with that question? Come on. It said that if you place a note there, maybe you'll get something good. What is it relevant now to speaking if Christianity is real or not? Tell me, how is it connected?

Stick to the topic. You want me to answer the question? How is it relevant? Yeah, to put a note in a Western War. Listen, you want to know how it's relevant? You can put. Listen, listen. Listen, I can ask him if you'd help him.

I like how you introduced him as Hussein Obama. I agree. But listen, because I, listen. I facilitated this debate and I want to facilitate more debates in the future but if I have to be farming all day for the double penetrating on Camp Terrell I'll have less time and I don't have enough

self-control to get off the game before I get the weapon. Well that's too bad for you bro. So if I get the weapon sooner with a node then I can do more of these and we can have more Christian discussions that's the relevance. I have a very important question to these gentlemen as they are a teacher of Christianity if they can answer this question that

battles me for 30 years. Do you mind but focus please? In your book, right? You are describing right in the beginning the genealogy of Jesus. You are trying to link Joseph the Carpenter to King David. The reason you are doing it is because in the Torah, it's a Messiah son of David. The Messiah not only has to be a righteous Jew, it has to come from the family of King David. if he links to the family of King David there's a chance he's the Messiah if he does not it doesn't

matter how righteous he is he can never be the Messiah so you describe about 30 generations more or less from Joseph the Carpenter from King David all the way to Joseph the Carpenter and right after that you tell a story that Joseph and Mary got married and Joseph went out of town and he came back a few months later and he saw that his wife she's pregnant and he asked her what did you do I never had intimacy with you I just have to do with don't come to tell and she said and she said God came to me in a dream and made made me pregnant made me pregnant God came to me in a dream and made me pregnant and I never cheated I did not do anything unethical okay so now in one book you describe certain genealogy and another book

in the same evangelist you describe a complete different genealogy with 22 mistakes. So now you don't even know the genealogy of your hero. You don't know who was his parents and grandparents. And you want to claim to the world that even- You made your point. Wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait a minute.

Oh, my God, no. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Oh, my God. Wait a fucking crazy. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. No, yeah.

We've, we've point can be three hours. Well, we wait. Wait, wait a minute. Now, if your religion came from God. I need to be a one later. They're paying me like four grad. All right. I'm going to answer your question.

Matthew is the genealogy of Joseph. You will have all the time to answer. You can ask for an hour. You're making your point. You're not asking your question. You see he knows that I'm putting him in a hole that it was a wrong. You won't be able to come out of it. So you're cutting me out.

That's your trick. That's your manipulation. Luke's genealogy because he says. No, no, no. Wait, wait. This was the son of Joseph. I didn't finish the question. What are you afraid of?

What are you afraid of? You can answer what you're now. That's all you're here. You're not here to really discuss. You're just a talk. So if you want to just talk. I want to know what the question is. Come on.

Let me finish the question. And then you take all the time to answer. What's the question? Don't be afraid. Genealogy is going to come to the right conclusion today. Genealogist, relax. He spoke for the first time. You're begging of late so long.

First time he says something. Genealogies don't matter us. What's the question? You finally woke him up. He's been sleeping for years. If God has anything to do with Jesus and you're calling him his son, how can he doesn't know who is his father, grandfather, until all the way to King David. In one book in Christianity, he described one genealogy.

Okay. Now, the second question. No, no. No, no. It's the same question. So don't throw yourself an open-minded thinker. Why? You're not an open-minded thinker.

You just like to do it. your point. That's all you're doing. Why would God come to a married woman after he warned in the Torah that anyone who will have relationship with a married woman will get the debt penalty and have no share to the world to come? After he teach humanity how horrible it is to go with a married woman of another man, there are millions of... That's not a question you make. There are millions of single... There are single... Come on, Rabbi, watch the question. There are millions of single women. man he can come to any single woman and make her pregnant but from all the single women out there he decided to go to a married woman of another man of another man and made a pregnant

which according to the Torah it's going to be a legitimate son illegitimate son a son that was married to a married woman that cheated is not a legitimate son you tell me you tell me now how can God does not know the genealogy and why would they go to a married woman? Boy and boys, now it's time for you to answer. Huh? Even he wants some time. And why would you describe the genealogy of Joseph the Carpenter when right after that you said that he's not the biological father of Jacey?

Why would you make a joke out of yourself? If you try to link... You're the one who's making a joke out of things. Yes, you are. Let's hear you answer. You're not giving a fair discussion. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on, hold on. We have to be fair here. Usually he shows up with many more people than the other debater. Today it's two on two, so to make it fair, you guys will get one minute to respond, and he'll get 15 minutes to make a point. I don't mind. They can speak 40 minutes. Yeah, well, that's never going to end.

We don't have unlimited time. No, we cannot speak 40 minutes. That's not fair. No. That is not respecting somebody else. They've just done more podcasts. They know that there's a limited amount of time. Take all the time you need to answer me.

why God would come to a married woman, why he doesn't know the genealogy of J.C. I just answered that question. And why did you waste the whole page to describe that J.C. linked to King David? That was four questions. And he wasn't actually the son of Joseph. That's it.

You have to ask one question at a time. I want to hear the answer. Let's go. That was four. To answer to which one of them. It's all one question. It's all one question. Go ahead. I want to hear.

All right. Matthew's genealogy is probably the genealogy of Joseph. Probably? Showing You have to know your details. You have to listen. Enough. I'm tired of your assumption. You gave him four seconds. You gave them four seconds. You gave them four seconds. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably.

Probably. Probably. Probably. And you want to fool the whole world with your nonsense. No, no. Go ahead. Enough with a probably. Give details. Probably. You just want to talk. That's what you've done. The entire religion is always. Probably. Probably. I don't want

probably. I want details. Oh, sorry. I'm going to answer it the way I desire to, the same way you answer the way you desire to. Go ahead. Go ahead. So don't tell me how I'm going to answer you, okay? Take your time. That's not fair, intellectually. It's not honest. Take your time. That's being deceptive. Go ahead. Take your time, Cliff. All right. Take your time. So Joseph's genealogy is in Matthew.

Mary's genealogy is in Luke. That's the first point. So there are two different genealogies because the main point of the book of Luke for chapters one and two is Jesus was not the son of Joseph. Jesus was born of a virgin Mary. The second point is, The Hebrew word for son of, Ben, can mean descendant of. And when you notice how Matthew groups together the genealogy in his early chapters there, it is clear he means descendant of, not literally son of. So that's the answer to the genealogy issue.

Okay? Okay. So what's the next issue? All right, wait, wait. That was a... No, no, no, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. No, no, wait.

No, no, no. No, no. No, no. Let's get me. You're going to get it. We'll hear you. But what you just... No, you respond after.

Respond after. What you just did is the biggest deceiving I ever seen. Mary has nothing to do with that genealogy goes based on a father. I'm speaking Jewish right now. Okay. Do you know what a toadogist is? Out of the birth narrative. Generations are skipped in Toledoge.

Genealogies. So in Matthew and Luke, you have from a Gentile perspective in Luke. And then you have from a Jewish, perspective in Matthew. The reason why you're not going to see the direct one generation, two generation, three generations, because Tolodotes were written in such a way where there was skipping of generations. So when you see the skipping of generations doesn't mean that they don't line up, doesn't mean that there's a contradiction. That's how Toledotos were written back then. I'm sorry. Another scam. You are very good with publishing scams.

Because you're very good putting us on. They're a lot. They're not. You don't want to rush. want to listen you don't want to have an honest dialogue you just want to puttip pacificate you realize you realize that every time i realize they begin they begin to scream why they begin why they begin to scream because they know what's coming for them and you like to make false accusations that's why why they begin to scream because they know what's coming for them so don't fool your audience there are 22 different names they are not names all this stuff you're No, again, again, they don't let me speak. You see, every time I've spoken more than we have.

Don't tell us we don't allow you to speak. They begin to scream. That's why. I'm replying to you. I'm replying to you. No, you're not. I'm replying. You're pontificating.

You're lecturing. He said that the genealogy, they skip generations. If they skip generation, at least the names that appear would be similar, but there are 22 names completely different. So please save this lie. and give some more respect to the audience. But there are different names. There are different names.

She's included in the Gentile genealogy, written by Luke. It makes sense. The doctor. He's not the Jew. But the names are complete. So he is focusing on the Jewish genealogy. What you say will only be true if all the names that appear will be similar. But in this case, they are completely different names.

He's alive today and he loves you. I pray to come to know. Because he's the one who loves you and he died for you on a cross and he rose from the dead. He managed pretty well without his love. I manage pretty good without his love. Oh yeah. Well, you have a date with death, as we all do. Are you threatening to kill him? And Jesus promises eternal life to all who trust in him.

Tell me. And you have no eternal life through Moses. You have no eternal life through Abraham. You have no eternal life through Isaiah, Jeremiah, Habakkuk. But Jesus Christ promises eternal life to all who trust in him. him. That's why you need Jesus. Hey, listen, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on a second. You can't have these two guys speaking in other language yelling notes at you the whole

time. Why? You was still. What do you mean? What do you mean? Why? That doesn't seem obvious. I'm going to repeat what I say in English. Anyway. He's not in the debate. He's sitting over there. How's that allowed? Tell me, when you're taking a test in school, do you get to have a guy on a phone over there looking stuff up for you? Let me ask you question. Is God is a grandson of King David? Who gave birth to to God? David? Are you asking this to me?

I'm asking it to you. As a secular person, tell me, is it possible that King David brought God to the world? I don't think that's what they believe either. You're asking me a rhetorical question. This isn't a serious question. That's why they're trying to prove. They're trying to prove that their God is a grandson of King David. I asked God, I asked God need King David to bring him to the world.

All right. All right. Do you guys believe that King David gave birth to God? No. Okay. So the answer is no. Because that's what the book is trying to describe that Jesus linked to King David. King David gave birth to Jesus.

But then they said that the father is actually has nothing to do with his biological birth. He's not really the father. I like his version. No, but I don't know. This is really fun. This is fun. If I'm riding a holy book, he's starting to win me over and I'm trying to describe that Joseph the carpenter is linking to King David. Okay, one point from him.

And right after that, I said that he's not the father of Jaycee. I make myself a complete fool. Everyone would laugh at me. Got him. We saw that. Got him. All right. Now, I want to ask you a question.

Can God be hungry? If God doesn't have what to eat, can he survive or he needs really food like me and you? What do you think? That's a serious question. Are you asking me? I'm asking them. I'm asking them. I'm talking about their God.

Limiting himself and becoming a human being. Yeah. So Jesus was hungry. Jesus sweat. He was a human being. Yeah. And Jesus physically died. died on the cross. That's your assumption. Jesus was God humbling himself, limiting himself,

and becoming a human being. So is he, can he be hungry? If God is in him. Sure, you're not listening. I said, not only can he become hungry, he sweat and he died on a cross physically. Okay, so God limited himself, became a human being in Jesus of Nazareth. And the reason that I believe that is, because three days after he died, he rose from the dead. It's that his story. It's that his story. resurrection that sets Christ apart as unique. The grave of Moses is full. The grave of Abraham is full. The grave of Isaiah and Jeremiah are full.

But the grave of Jesus Christ is empty. It is that historical resurrection that sets Christ apart as totally unique, different. And that's why when Christ claims to be God in human form, I trust him because he was dead and rose from the dead. Rabbi, if you die and rise from the dead, sir, I promise to listen very carefully to everything you have to say, because the evidence is you're in touch with the reality. You died, and you rose from the dead.

Just to clarify, were you threatening to kill him earlier when you said he's going to die soon? No. That sounded like a vicious threat, which I thought was pretty cool, so I'll give you a point. So now we're tied in one more. We're going to die. So now. Again, it sounds like he's telling you. The statistics on death are very interesting.

for the weapon. One out of one die. Every single one of us in this room is going to die. He's beginning with me. Everything they claim and all their knowledge come from the New Testament. Now, when you review their books, when you review the books, they are full of human errors. Sounds like that knowledge is coming from his brain. Full of human errors. Now, God doesn't give books that's full of human errors. I give you an example. It's said that Jacob went to Egypt with 70 people. But in their books, it became 75. God forgot how many people went with Jacob to Egypt? How can he forget and make such a silly mistake that every little Jew in a yeshiva knows, H5,

already know that Jacob went to Egypt with 70 people as it described in the book of Exodus. And all of a sudden, in the New Testament, it said that he went to Egypt with 75 people. Where does it say that? I can show you the source, 100%. All right. But let's get back to Jesus.

Stuart, why is Jesus so reliable? Jesus is so reliable because... What is this source? This is just a bunch of people? of Hebrew. He's highlighted. He's got the Hebrew gospel. But I don't know what's written on here. I don't know if this is the gospel or his notes. It kind of looks like his notes because it's all highlighted. He's highlighted debates from previous rabbis against Christianity. Oh, this is the Talmud right here we're looking at? No, that's actually a book that was written by a written by a former pastor from Argentina. This is a former pastor. He was a bishop. It was a pastor, whatever. And he, after he realized that Christianity is all fairy. and it's full of human errors. He left it and converted to Judaism and he wrote this book

showing all their mistakes and all their scams. So we live in the year, 2012, how they train him after a fairy tale. You want to want to sell gold to this time. Jesus Christ is one of this historically verifiable people. You are totally wrong.

That's intellectually dishonest. He is actually describing. It's not a fairy tale. He was an historical person we live in the year 2006. Okay. That's 2000. 26 years after the birth of Jesus Christ.

Just because you interrupt me, he doesn't mean you're speaking. How has a Jew convinced 34% of the world, almost 34% of the world that he's the son of God? How did the Jew do it? Who's the most successful rabbi in history? Let me ask. Why would you ask him a question worded like that? You're just going to make him super arrogant and then he's going to go on for 10 minutes. I want to go.

Who's the more successful rabbi? You or J.C.? Let me ask you a question. What do you have more in the world? Diamonds, you're jeweler? Diamonds or sand? What do you have more? Sand.

Okay, so what's more precious? Diamond or sand? Based on your theory and your assumption, sand is better than diamond because there's more of it in the world. There is much more garbage in the world than diamonds. Because there is more garbage, it doesn't make it more important than diamonds. So this is a stupid claim to be doing now. Sand is probably far more important than diamonds in the grand scheme of

Let me ask you a question. Hundreds of millions of people smoke. and take drugs that doesn't make it right oh come on yeah doesn't make it right yeah this is a fair it helps me sleep yeah totally erroneous all right you were saying something over there what were you saying over there who's a more successful rabbi you or g.C first of all he was the biggest first of all he wasn't a rabbi it was just a student in yeshiva that was kicked out of the yeshiva because it was looking at the ladies and his rabbi threw him out of yeshs

Then he started to collect all the homeless people on the streets and preach to them. But you know what? He told them, I never came to dare to contradict one of the commandments of the Torah. Everybody must follow the Torah and the rabbis. That's in the New Testament. The rabbis are sitting on the chair of Moses. Anyone will modify the Torah and teach people to do otherwise than the commandments of God will be cursed by God.

Where is this story? They are contradicting the Torah completely in their lifestyle. They don't follow the instruction of their God. Their God to say, you have to observe the Sabbath, you have to follow the oral Torah, the rabbis that sits on the chair of Moses, but they come here for an hour and totally contradict everything that Jesus order is student. Now, I don't understand. They are confused.

Oh, you're not confused. If Jayce is your hero, the first thing you have to do is to listen to us. what he says, right? If he says... Where's the story that he got kicked out of Yeshua? I'm certainly pretty confused right. Why is that? Your friend's asking the question. You're just making this stuff up. That's what I was going to ask. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're making this stuff up. Your own

teammate is he's a traitor now. He's in exile. I'm just curious. I'm a curious person. Tell me, tell me. The say, I have a feeling when you ask me to tell you something, you're not really looking for me to tell you very much. Who came before? The sages, the Jewish prophets, or Christianity? Christianity is

2,000 years old. the rabbis of the Talmud some of them lived before jacy was even born right so in a talmud it appears that he was a student named yeshua right that was living by rabbi osuah ben farhiah and he walked with him on the street and he made the comments about some ladies that was standing there and he asked him to leave the yeshiva you understand so this is how old is that story this is before christianity even started he just started they just started to tell story seven years after he died, they started to tell all kinds of fairy tales about his life. Why would he collect them? How did he collect that?

Who else will he teach? Any Jew would accept him? Did he put them in? Do you know any normal Jew that will accept him? But did he put them in those in those little pokey balls or how did he bring them around? That's news to me. I didn't know that Jesus. Okay, so now do you mind if I read some more course. Yes, I mind. Yes. We all mind if you read more Argentinian things yeah all right big mind so so you know so okay don't do it okay I'm not I'm not going I'm waiting for you I'm waiting for you to respond to what I just I'll ask a new question we'll move on right okay go ahead even know what we're talking about at this go ahead okay here do you ask for the source oh hey hey we just

said we're moving on go ahead go ahead on a scale of 1 through 10 how likely do you think it is your opponent will go to hell we'll start with you guys depends what they do with Christ at the end of their age let's assume life was to end right now I should have made that clear hey you have to be quiet

okay you can't have your Gouber's yelling talking points at everybody the whole time seeing that the thief on the cross who could have been a Jew had a deathbed conversion last second and Jesus said today you'll be with me in paradise anybody could turn at any point

it all depends on your heart No, let's say he died like everybody was to die this instant. Like there's not a last day possible conversion. If our buddies down here decided that they did not want to spend eternity with Jesus Christ, then he's not going to force them into heaven with him. He's not going to play the jealous boyfriend type. So then a 10 out of 10 level. Then he'll end up in hell.

Yeah. 10 out of 10. Well, if they reject Christ, Christ will just say, sure. Well, it doesn't look like he's accepting him right now. So that would be 10. If they don't accept him right now, then they want to spend eternity separate from him, which would be held. Okay. And what do you think? What do you think the odds are? All right. So Judaism. No, no, it's a one through ten question.

Okay. Judaism does not tell the Gentiles. You must be a Jew to go to heaven. You can be a righteous Gentile and go to heaven. That's not conditional. If you be Jewish, you go to heaven. But Christians and Muslims, they say to the other people, if you want to go to heaven, you must accept our religion. You must accept J.C. and the Muslims say you must accept the Quran and Muhammad. Why? Because all missionary religions that based on lies, this is how they force the people. They would fear. You're not going to accept us. You don't go to heaven.

Judaism is not a missionary religion. You can go to heaven if you keep the seven laws of Noah that God commanded all Gentiles. I don't imagine you think that everything goes laws. I'm not here today to make any Christian become Jewish. The other way. Stay a Gentile. Just be a righteous Gentile. Do not be an idol worshiper.

Be a decent person. Don't be a racist. And you go to heaven. There's heaven for Gentiles. So if they'll continue to be idol worship, they can dream about going to heaven. No, no, the question was how likely they are to go to hell? I just explained to you.

Out of ten. Based on what they claim here tonight, they have zero chance to go to heaven. Where will they go? They'll find out when they get there. He sounds like he's threatening you, the threat. I'm not pissed off. No, no, but you guys said the same thing,

but he put him in a much more vicious way. Let's make it clear. I don't wish anything bad to them. I want to make it clear. Don't try to twist the things here. I didn't say that. I said. Sir,

you've been twisting things right and left. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. All right. Point to them for defending the one answer. Now one answer. You've twisted. I ask you about the genealogy.

And you tell me about Mary. Mary is not genealogy because genealogy go by the father. Who wrote Luke? Who wrote Luke? I ask you. Who wrote Luke? I asked, was he a Jew? Luke wrote Luke. He was a Gentile.

He wasn't a Jew. So he didn't hold to your Jewish understanding of genealogies. But if it's the book of God, how can people that write it make so many mistakes? In a divine book, you cannot have one mistake. If you have one mistake, it means in love from God. You know, when you say that Jacob went to Egypt with 75 people, that's a human error. Let me ask you a question. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You believe in them, right?

Isaac and Jacob. Ask your question and we'll answer it. All right, good. So I was the question. Do you know where they buried? Where Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are buried. Do you know? No, I don't know. Okay. So everybody knows that you go to the city of Hebron and you have the cave of the mahpola. Even the Arabs made a mask next to it and they all come to pray there in a grave of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. But somehow in Christianity, they made another very ridiculous human error. And it's written. there that it's in the city of scams. It's a question, remember? It's a no, what the hell are you talking about? No, it's not a question. Explain to me how a book from God. You make points. Exactly.

How a book from God does not know where Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is buried. What kind of a God it is that in part one of his Torah, he described what they buried in Hebron. And in part two, he forgot where he forgot where they buried. Jesus Christ is alive. God forgot. That's the difference. Very interesting. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob are dead. Jesus Christ is alive. What does it have to do with what I say? What does it have to do?

What does it have to do? What was your question for them? My question is, according to Christianity, the cave is in a different city. You see evidence of reliability. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were dirty, rotten sinners the same way I am a dirty, rotten sinner. Jesus Christ never sinned. He lived a sinless life. He lived a sinless life. taught amazing ethical teachings. You read the sermon on the Mount. That's ethical genius. Then he died forgiving, offering us to forgive us for our sin.

I ask you where they buried. And in Christianity, they say that they buried in a different place. Why don't you listen? Why don't you listen? Why don't you listen? Because I'm going to speak the same way you speak. But how is it relevant? I'm sorry to put it out there.

I'm tired of just listening. He wants you address the fact of the burial. If I got. You ask 25 different questions. It's impossible to talk to. I come and I say I'm a messenger of God and I give a book and I say God gave me this book and it's written over there that the Twin Towers collapse in Miami, right? I'm claiming that I'm the son of God or I'm the Messiah. I come to my student.

I give them books. Just read the New Testament. There are no contradiction. There's a tremendous internal consistency. No, sir. In Miami. No, sir. Anybody normal would follow my book.

If my book says the Twin Towers collapsed in Miami. Okay. So in the new testament never makes an historical You're creating the pencil? Why are you going to get sick? In Christianity. He's eating the pencil. In Christianity.

Take a look at your friend. You do a great job attacking Constantine. In Christian. Okay, wait a way that. In Christianity. He was a Roman Emperor who converted to put his faith in Christ. I was. You don't follow Constantine.

In Christianity, it's written that the cave of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is in Nables. And every fool knows. Every fool knows it's in Hebron. Tell me what happened to God. What happened to God? It doesn't know where the greatest people are buried. You know what I'm saying? Where in the Gospels does it say that they're buried somewhere other than Hebron?

Act 7. Act 7? It's a gospel. It's a part of Christianity. It's a part of Christianity. You believe in it. Are you saying the act are not reliable? The act are not reliable?

The act are not reliable? Sure. there are a lot of horrible things that Jews have done. There are a lot of horrible things that Christians have done. Not relevant. There are a lot of horrible things that... Not relevant to my question. That jewelers have done, that ministers have done, that priests have done.

It's not relevant. How is it relevant to my question? Act 7 is after Jesus, though. A reliable source of information about God. The evidence of the way Jesus lived, taught, died, and rose in the dead is you can trust Jesus to be an accurate source of information about God. How do you know? How do you know, prove it?

Because he's reliable. Just look at his life, teachings, death, and resurrection. How do you know? I've gone over and over it. Life, teachings, death, resurrection. Life, teachings, death, resurrection. Do you get it? Of Jesus Christ.

Every guy in Yeshiva has that. So every one of them is the son of God? Every rabbi, every rabbi teach and bring people closer to God. How do you know it resurrected from the dead? You read it in the evangelist and I'm calling it. How do you know the Moses? You'll read it in a book. Yeah, books can be reliable and it's going to be unreliable.

And this can be unreliable. Oh, no, no, no, no. According to your religion. Zeus and Thor. There you go. You don't need any Jewish theology. You guys can't keep up. See on Instagram live?

All right. He asked me, how do I know Moses exist? If Christians admit that Moses existed and they admire him, and now they come and say, how do you know Moses exists, I think this debate is over. Good, it's over then. These people completely lost it. They're completely lost. Right.

Aren't you, okay, relax, relax. No, he just said that he doesn't believe Moses exists. Are you happy that the goyum boys are following Abraham, Isaac, and jail? They don't have a hard time. They don't follow. What do you mean they don't follow? They can contradict the whole Torah. They wouldn't even know who Abraham.

Isaac and Jacob are they don't follow one commandment of the Torah they don't keep the Sabbath they eat not kosher you know the Torah you woke him up I'm sorry my language so yeah so listen you say that to the rabbi if they worship an idol listen they worship an idol they desecrate the Sabbath

we worship God they say they worship we worship literally the historical character who has the most profanity out of any other and anybody any historian would admit that Jesus one number one Buddha would be number two. They eat a ham and cheese sandwich. I understand. No, but Jayce is the spirit of God. How about the spirit of God, Rabbi?

J.C. observed the Sabbath, but they don't. But he said to all his followers, no one should move even an inch from the truth of the Torah. He gave them the God of Abraham. It's better than nothing. Tell me, a Muslim should do what Muhammad commended him if he wants to be a faithful Muslim. The Muslims believe in the Quran, not in Muhammad. They believe in Muhammad. They believe the Quran.

So they claim Muhammad is their prophet. If a Muslim will eat pork, even though they are according to the Quran, you now allowed to eat pork, can he be called a faithful Muslim? Yes or not. We cannot have everything perfect. No, no, but can he be a faithful Muslim? He doesn't want to insult anybody directly because he'll lose a ton of clients. He's not going to. No.

He will not talk badly about Muslim from the Christian and Jews. Don't you get it? A Muslim woman comes. His shop is down the street. He's completely not modest. And she claimed she's a faithful Muslim. No one will take her serious. These guys claiming they are following of JC and they do the exact opposite.

The exact opposite of what he told them to do. They don't do one thing of what he used to do. The laws of Moses are fulfilled in Christian theology. Then they go on to the next. But J.C. say this Torah will never ever change. It's written in the Old Testament. No one is allowed to change one letter from the Torah.

The Torah is eternal. God said that the Jewish people might. covenant with you is eternal although I punished you and scattered you among the nations I will never get sick and tired and disgusted by you to abandon you so that I will never replace you with any other nation you are the chosen people you are only because I'm holy and I don't give you permission I we gotta move on what the other is happening right now he's not even talking to you guys expecting we can't have a conversation between you and your guy here is it is also

You're sitting in his feet. I know, but he's on your team. You can't be arguing with your own job. He's asking a valid question. Dude, there's another time for that. I want to have them going back and forth, back and forth doing nothing, man.

What are you talking about? They have a messianic figure. It's also a good point. What is the messianic figure? We're doing something. No, let's move on. Let's move on. I don't even know what the hell you guys are talking about.

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No, I don't think so. Don't kiss up. It says not to kiss up to the wicked. They get a point. They get a point. They get a point. You lose a point. It's actually a two-point swing.

Don't kiss up to him. Just because he's trying to act nice today, more than usual. Me? It's still a sinner. He goes against God. Every second of his life, he lives in a scene, and he's going to be punished severely for that. Interesting how often you talk about hell

in light of the fact that the Old Testament does not talk about hell. Sure he does. No, it doesn't. Absolutely. The Torah was given written in the oral Torah to get it. So you're talking to hell. You heard about your punishment, and you're already losing it, huh? Old Testament talks about Shio.

I can't get to the next question. My hands have turned into sin. She all is one of the seven places in hell. This isn't funny. Gehenom has seven different sections. She all is one of the seven. Well, I don't know what you guys believe it says, but when I had him on last time, he does believe in hell.

He told me I have an unbelievable punishment waiting for me. It's still the same case now. What do you think is the best option for me, though? To repent. To stop observing the Sabbath, to stop being a clown. Get more serious with your life. You can still make money. Don't worry.

The money comes from God, not from your life. But I'll do anything for money. anything for money. Well, we've agreed on a few points there. Yeah, yeah, you go. I like that. God gave us the ability to make money by working honestly. Work is a gift from God.

Exactly. We're joining God in the creative process. Absolutely. Very, like a Goyan farm animal. Unfortunately, I guess for some people, not me in this case, because I'm the one waiting from it, we also have the ability to make big time money from stealing and stuff, which is not the route that I've necessarily gone down as much as this guy. However...

Why? You're calling him a thief? Yeah. He's a jeweler. Because he likes to say the opposite. And anyone force you to buy his jewelry? That's not what he has. That's a bad representation of what a thief is.

He's not a thief. You know, if someone wants to pay for his merchandise, any amount he has the right is an artist. I didn't mean he necessarily stoking. It's more of like a metaphor, but you get what I mean. Ah, okay, I got it. All right. I just wanted to clarify.

This isn't an argument against Judaism. Are you Orthodox, by the way, or? Oh, do that. Messianic? Not Messian. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. You cannot fight Judaism because that's the foundation of your religion. You shooting yourself in the leg.

I think the fit, no, there's a joke. There's a total joke. I think the fundamental difference is in the two, and this is not a point for Christianity. Okay. Is Judaism is working towards God. It's striving. You've got to do X, Y, and Z in order to get to God. So fulfill the Sabbath, 613 commandments.

Yes. The Christian faith is God has worked towards us. And so Jesus has worked towards us saying, you can't do it on your own. So I think the emotion. fulfillment is what I find beautiful in the Christian faith. Again, not a point towards Christianity. But I think the emotional fulfillment of like we have shame, we have guilt, we have pain. We have always this meritocracy that we're living into where we have to do better, better, better. But Jesus said, no, you can find absolute rest in what I've done for you. So I think every other religion, whether it's Judaism is not. He's not even listening to you, by the way. He's just reading. I know he's not. That's why I'm giving it to the people right now.

I'm listening actually to every word is saying. I just, so from a macro perspective, it's an interesting dichotomy between a more of relational nature of the Christian faith based off of grace versus every other religion. So you keep saying religion, religion, religion. I just want to get this right. Christianity is one of the major world religions, but it's predominantly completely about a relationship with Christ because he's worked towards us through his cross. Good. Can I respond to that? So completely radically different. Yeah. Okay, good. I heard what you say, but it's contradicting what J.C. say. So you have to, you have to decide, Are you a faithful student of him or you go to the opposite of what you I want to show you.

So let me read to you what J.C. say. Even your friend down here said fulfillment. You got to learn from your friend. He's got to stop learning from you. Matthew 23. Matthew 23. I did not come to change the Torah. Heaven and earth will be destroyed and one thing from the Torah will never change.

The rabbis that follow the Torah and sit on the chair of Moses, everything they'll tell you you must observe. Now comes Judaism and the time. which is the words of the biggest rabbis in history and it's in the Old Testament written hundreds of times no one is allowed to change one of the things the Torah say now you come and make up a new thing that contradicts completely the Torah and JC so something here has to be clarified if you follow him as your leader as your role model as your God as your Messiah you have to stick carefully and faithfully to

everything he wrote in the New Testament or was written in his name. You cannot come and redesign Judaism completely 180 degrees different after your own God. Wait a second. Wait a second. Why can you be an atheist and be a Jew? You are seen a. Is not a Jew who's an atheist contradicting Torah? Of course there are. Well then why is a Jew you are trying to point out contradictions within Christianity. We agree there are all types of contradictions within Christianity. Okay. But there are all types of contradictions in Judaism also. My devout Jewish friends who are Orthodox are not atheists. They believe in God seriously. I have many Jewish friends who are atheists. So they have both, all right? But, but

now when you read the Gospels, even the reform that follow Jesus Christ, yeah, then he calls you to accept his grace, his forgiveness, his love, to rest in him, to receive him the gift of eternal life, and then because you're so grateful to him for life, you then want to live a life of honoring him and obeying him. And that's what a follow of Christ is. And remember, the first century follows that Christ mainly were Jews. So we're talking about Jewish people who saw Jesus is the truth. They put their faith in him, and the majority of the New Testament was written by Jewish people.

So we're not talking about anti-Jew. We're talking about this amazing claim that this first century Jew, Yeshua, Jesus of Nazareth was more than a man. He was actually God revealing himself in a way that you and I with our finite minds can begin to understand. Okay. That's exciting. Very good. That's fulfilling.

Okay. You gave a beautiful speech, but none of it is relevant to what I said completely. Oh, I feel the same way about what you said. I speak about that. And you speak about night. You're shooting off all over the place. Trox, what do you see? I ask you, why don't you follow the instructions of Jesus?

I'm trying to get in. And you're giving me a whole. speech how great Jesus was. I'm asking you, if you are a faithful follower of Jesus, you have to observe all the commandments of the Torah. And I disagree with your interpretation of those commandments. Jesus said, because he died as a Jew, he died as a Jew. He died as a Jew. What do you want to ask me? You want to ask yourself? Me? Yeah. I don't know. I want to do you just get a word in. I mean, listen, these guys are having a theological conversation. He's trying to, What are you like a summary?

I didn't ask you to summarize. Well, that's the word that I'm giving it. What are you like an AI? He tried to pin them down on the laws. He's saying, oh, you know, the laws are this. You don't follow that. So you're obviously wrong. Or this or that.

And he said from a spiritual perspective and then not listening to one another. So Matthew 517, though, your friend said. Can that? Jack said, win crisis, sermon on the Mount, probably the most famous sermon ever given by any religious, as a Harvard professor recently said this, by any religious rabbi. When he says, I did not come to abolish the law,

but I came to fulfill it, what did he mean? Because that to me sounds like it's contradicting. Everything that you just stated that supposedly we are contradicting about what Christ said. I tell you very simply what it is. What is so simple about that? He said, anyone is coming to change one of the commandments of the Torah

or one letter from the Torah. He said, fulfill, though. Yeah, listen. But he said anyone who will change one letter from the Torah or one of the commandments, even the smallest one and will teach people differently than what's written will be cursed by God. End of story. So what's the fulfill word? Okay, listen. Let me help these Christians. Fulfil means to explain to the student how to keep the commitments.

No, he's never think himself. I've said nothing this whole time. He said he came. Let me help the Christians. They don't know their own. Yeah, Tracks needs to help us. They don't even know their own religion. Okay.

Jesus says In the Torah it says thou shall not commit adultery, correct? Right. Then he says, what I say is anyone who even desires has already committed adultery

in their heart. So he's doing it a level above the law. They can't understand, they can't even explain that themselves. Yeah, it's Matthew 19. He came to tighten the noose, obviously. Early on in the Old Testament, you could offer a certificate on horse.

You're not allowed to commit a... divorce any old time. Oh my God. But now he's saying you cannot divorce unless there's three ways, three things that happen. One is adultery and a fair. The second is somebody just takes off and the third is abuse. So you're exactly right. Jesus tightens the news completely to change matters. It's Judaism 2.0. It's all of it. Everything they like to making dinner. It's written already. It's a better form of Judaism. It's written before he was born in Judaism. It's an update. Upgraded and updated. I want to remind you

I want to remind you that everything that Jesus say came from the Torah. That's good. No, Jesus said a lot of things. It did not come from the Torah, sir. Jesus told parables that were not in the Torah. I just read to you Matthew 5, verse 17 to 19. No, you did not. That everything he's teaching is from the Torah.

And no one is allowed to change one letter of the Torah. False. False. False. That's right. Totally false. I'm not ignoring. I'm telling you you're wrong.

You're wrong in your interpretation. Listen, in a book of... It's wrong in your interpretation, all right? In a book of Matthew 15, verse 22 to 26, there is a story. In your book, there's a Knaani non-Jewish woman, a Gentile. She's coming to J.C. And she asked him to cure her daughter that she has a demon that penetrated her body. And he answered to her, I only came from the nation of Israel, not for the Gentiles.

She continued to beg and he say to her, I cannot replay. the Jews I cannot I cannot replace the Jews with dogs I cannot replace the Jews there's not that many words on there what are you reading I cannot there's like 40 words I cannot

replace the Jews with dogs and she answered him she answered him even the dogs even the master of there's like 20 words right even the master of the dogs give them the crimes you're making it up as he goes I write it brief to myself

but I know the whole story. I'm not going to read the whole page now. I make myself notes. So now I repeat because you interrupted me. A woman, a non-Jewish woman, come to JC. She tells him, please cure my daughter. She has a demon in her. He said to her, I did not come for the Gentiles.

I came only for the Jews. She said to him, okay, we're also people. Help me out. He said, I cannot replace the Jews with dogs. She said to him, even the owner of the dog give him some crumbs. And in the end, he went and helped it out. This is in your book. He's calling both of you dogs.

Very tough. Your hero is calling you dogs. You tell me, please. How can God call human being dogs? Now, let's hear it. Please tell me that. I do that all the time. You guys can handle that question?

You do it all the time. Come one. Very tough one. Let's see. Oh, sure. Yeah. All right. The Gospels.

Good one. All right. So it gets to the very heart of Judaism. You're exactly right. Where Jesus came for the Jews, and you rewind it all the way back into the Old Testament. Obviously, the promise to Abraham is ultimately the Israelites to get to the promised land. And now what are they doing? They can't intermarry, obviously.

And these wars that go on, God is saying there's immorality going on with other nations as well. So they're fighting through, not intermarrying with other nations. So it's still the chosen people. And they are judging other people groups as well. But don't forget, God judges the Jews, too, because they're just as bad. Fast forward to the New Testament this passage, what you have here is Jesus saying there are still chosen people. But the crumbs go to the dogs, and what he's having her do in that specific context is she starts to think, wow, so even we get the crumbs. But then how does he further tease that out?

Obviously, he teases it out by saying that all are created in his image and all are chosen people, just right the Israelites are a chosen people, but a light to all nations over and over again in the Old Testament. and you have it further fleshed out. Are we talking about these type of Israelites or the black ones? Yeah, this came up with them. Yeah, good memory. But which one are you talking about? I'm talking about these ones. Oh.

Yeah, yeah. The black ones are funnier, though. And they have a lot more swag. Would you agree with that? So that's the whole point. The Jews of the chosen. They have more swag. They tried his best names.

They're funny. But it's ultimately to all nations. That's why Paul goes on in Galatians 328 and says that there's neither Jew nor Greek. Okay? Do you see? Do you see what's going on here? Ultimately, it is the Jews that are chosen,

but they're alight to all nations, and Jesus is just giving a simple parable here, showing, yes, you answered correctly. Even the dogs get the crumbs in the sense of they are considered dogs at the time, but they are the Gentiles, and they're saved as well. And Paul fleshes that out. I rather be on the sides of the holy chosen children of God

than the sides of the dogs. And that sounds very arrogant. I wish I was chosen, too. I was almost racist. Yeah, that was racist, arrogant. That was everything. Oh, man. No.

How does God have children? Jews are not superior to Gentiles. Gentiles are not superior to Jews. We're all human beings created the image of God. I don't understand. And when the Bible says the Jews are the chosen people, he doesn't understand how Jews cannot be superior. You know what I just realized today?

Both of you can contradict Christianity completely. You did the job for me. I didn't even need to debate you. Because in every church and in every Christian book, they call the Jews the chosen people. the children of God and you come and say there's no difference between. I don't get it. So you can't predict the Old Testament.

You don't believe in the Torah. Oh, I sure do. So make up your mind. Do you believe that the Jews are superior to the Gentiles? Do you believe that the Jews are superior to the Gentiles? It doesn't matter what I believe. It does not matter what you believe. That's exactly.

My personal opinion. I'm reading to you what's written in the Torah. In the Torah. You are my children. I chose you from all the nation to be mine. They keep getting judged. Do not imitate the Gentiles. Who was in the captivity by first the Assyrian?

You guys got judged non-stop, man. I don't understand. You don't let me finish a sentence. You don't let me finish a sentence. I've spoken more than anybody here. I'm answering you. I'm answering you. No, you're not.

You're not answering us. Sure I am. You're raising other issues. I'm giving you the court. Jews are sinners, just like everybody else. God say to the Jews. You ask me. You skirt the issues and then go off on engines like it's going to that style.

You ask me the souls, no? And then you just keep on 12. I ask you about black Israelites, being having swag. Do you ask me the souls? He asked you about the chosen people. Do they have swag? I ask you that. You know, the black israelite.

All right. It's like me claiming I'm Elon Musk. You want to take me serious, be a serious. The lines. You are not superior to Gentiles. I am the last. If you listen to my lecture, you know, there's not complete opposite of races. Complete.

Anti-Semitism is a sin. Anti- Gentile is a sin also. I'm not anti-Gentai. Anti-Semitism is a sin. I never, you never heard. Anti-Semitism is a sin. When did you hear me that I say that I'm anti- Gentile? I don't even know what's being talked about.

Well, I don't understand. What is this speech for? Did you hear me that I say you are anti-genti? I didn't say anti-gent. But you believe that the Jewish state is superior day. Why are you getting upset? No, no, no. You're a misinterpretation.

Who's superior? Oh, yeah. The black people. J.C., called the woman a dog. I've changed my fault. Right. Now you're blaming me for J.C. calling you a dog. You're blaming me.

The blacks are the real Jews. The blacks are the real Jews. Am I Elon Musk? No. You're not Elon Musk, but the blacks to the Jews. That's the same answer to this is applying to the black. The black is the black. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I have evidence of it.

Absolutely. So it's written in the Torah. I have evidence. I have evidence that the blacks of the real Jews. It's what Captain Tazaria told. It's written in a Torah that the Christian teach for 2,000 years in every one of their churches, but they refuse to admit for some reason. That the Jewish people are the children of God. They are the chosen people. God chose them and made an eternal covenant with them. He gave them the Holy Land. He gave them the Torah. and even our leader is a jew so now you asking me are the jews superior depend if there are righteous jews they are superior if they are wicked jew they are inferior that's true who's righteous and who's wicked that's a tough line the Torah the Torah says you're a lot of

great a righteous gentile a righteous gentile is better than a wicked Jew that's for sure wake up smell the coffee the Torah doesn't say the rabbi i just gave you the court I just gave me of the court. They don't say that. Oh, yeah? So who are making some incredible judgments. So the books of God is not relevant. Nobody can draw.

Nobody can decide who's right. All right. All right. All right. Let's go to the next point. I don't even know. They don't believe, not only they don't believe in the Torah. They don't believe in the New Testament.

Everything written in their book, which I say today, they deny. Everything I say they denied and they want to teach about Christian people are unbelievable teachers they don't believe one world of what's written I'm surprised you didn't sacrifice you as ball how much longer do you guys want to go for as little as possible what about you you want to go for longer let's make a final point I think closing statements let's go okay well I want to do one more question before closing statements I want to get everybody and I start with the closing statement no you cannot yet because this is in the closing statements

I don't know if you guys will disagree on this. I'm honestly not too sure. I'd like to get an opinion around the table from each different person. Their thoughts currently on the war in Israel and Gaza. We'll start with tracks, actually. Right. You wanted the statement on it first. Yeah.

So, I mean, you know, Israel is a very, very small country that's been harassed and attacked for a very long time. Uh-oh. And now they got a prime minister that is not playing around, and he's willing to go to war with. Iran, Turkey, and whoever else. And he's brutal, and he doesn't care who dies. That's horrible. Well, you know, that's what you get after being harassed for the past. I don't know.

You got to start killing people on Turkey, and that's what you get and you don't get upset? So it's a horrible situation for those people that are being destroyed. There's a spider behind you. But that's what's going to happen after 60 or 80 years of constant war. You know what I'm saying? That's it. So pro-Israel, obviously. pro-Israel to a point I've never even heard before

he wants to start killing people in Turkey that's the most absurd thing I've ever heard are you now you know turkey Turkey where did you get that from he just said Ned Yao's gonna start killing people in Turkey he's even ready to go to war with Turkey as far as he supports that I don't even he's lost his fucking mind

nobody goes to war that fast you know when you go to war that means he had no other choice so October 7 let's no way answer the question he answered it now you're talking about thoughts on the war October 7 was four on the people of Israel.

They didn't start this war. They came and they massacre almost 1,500 people and put them in dungeons. All right, fine. And rap them and... Horrible, horrible, horrible. And as a result of that,

that's what happened. If they wouldn't do that, none of that would have happened. So I don't understand. What is the claim? You know, as soon it's going to happen, by the way here. It's happening now in Europe.

What's going to happen? What's going to happen? What did you see? What happened in France? Belgium and soon Israel is going to start killing people here no no no the Muslim radical Muslim will take over all over Europe will slather all the Christians one by one it's going to be a civil war in every country all right I say the 10 years between everyone and Muslims now in France I already say 10 years ago you can go to my

call them 10 years absolutely and soon it's going to happen here in New York New York City little by little through politics they're occupying more and more cities and at the same time from the other hand with violence intimidating the people Jews and Christians are in huge danger to their safety. Okay. Understand. So before you worry about the children of Gaza and the Hs-N-I-Skis. Now before.

You should worry about yourself and your own people of your own country because it's a matter of a few years until we're going to have to face the same thing the Israeli is facing with these n-nobokies. Okay. So two unbelievably extreme perspectives. You guys. We started with you. I'm right down the middle.

I think this gets into the whole chosenness. There's always wars when one group thinks that they are chosen and they're the better, superior group. And so obviously there's going to be violence and mistakes on both sides. The problem has to be mediated by the Christian faith, which says all are created in... Well, I would say actually in the war over there, it's not even that the Arabs think they're better

and the Jews think they're better. The Jews think they're better and the Arabs want to get them. But the point I'm making is that I don't think it's about who thinks they're better. better over there. I don't know if that's why that's going on. Yeah. No, there's some truth to that. I just, I just think you could see evil on both sides. And like Solzhenitin talked about, I mean, Christ diagnosed it better than anybody. It's a heart issue. It's not about who can do better things or worse things. It's the heart issue.

The line of good and evil goes through every single human heart. So you don't want to pick aside. So now the question is, I really don't. Okay. According to the Quran, Israel, belong to the Jews. Oh, wow. Wonderful. Yeah. That's your turn. Wonderful. Well, he just wanted to hit it. He just wanted to hit everybody watching with a quick fact that according to the Quran,

Israel belongs to the Jews, which I'm sure all of the Arabs believe that. Every knowledgeable Muslim will tell you that. I can show you thousands of emails I got for Muslims. Well, you're unwilling. I've asked you to debate a Muslim and you won't do it. If you'll come back and debate a Muslim, I did. I debate it's Nico. I did.

I debated Sniko. You forgot. But you wouldn't do it here. I wanted to bring him to debate you. You want to steal the rating based on my debate with the Muslim? No, no, no. I'll bring a different Muslim. me once to debate these two gentlemen I won't let you fool me again gentlemen I'm

surprised you're giving them a nice word after I give them full respect that's a good way to and we don't wish you any bad and we don't wish you any bad thank you very appreciate your faith in Christ and receive him yeah I also pray for you to repent and stop worship your idol and you made that right black heurz that you should go to that idolatrice as well yeah it's black or way Hebrew we're we're all yes a lot of similar you want your opinion you want your I love Jews. I love Arabs. I am abhorred by the hatred that has existed. I am in shock over Arab people who want to kick the Jews into the Mediterranean. That is embarrassing. That is wrong. But I've got to remember, a Jewish thug is a Jewish thug. An American thug is an American thug.

thug is an a fess thug. We all are broken, sinful human beings, and that's why we need a savior. And that's what Jesus Christ comes to do. For every Gentile, every Arab, every Jew, every Caucasian, every African American, we all are sinners

and we are in desperate need of God's forgiveness and God's grace. And that's what Jesus Christ offers us. That seemed you were trying to do the middle thing, but slightly pro-Israel. So unfortunately, an extremely pro-Israel table. I will say that you win the most pro-Israel. I've never heard anybody, any Jew or Israeli,

until you want to go into war with Turkey, but that would be pretty interesting. It might not be a bad idea at this point. Yeah. Okay, all right, well, that's it. We have to film with Longneck now. All right. Closing statements.

Closing statements, yeah, we'll do closing statements, and then we'll film with Longneck. He's in the law. Closing statements. Listen, the closer you are to God, the better you are. The farther you are from God, the worse you are. The farther you are from him, the better you are. If you are closer to God

with Jesus, then be closer to God with Jesus. Okay, no one's here to change your mind or to tell you this, tell you that. Just be close to God, be a good person, and it's all going to work out. Okay. What he said is completely incorrect. Why? Because you can never be close to God. You cannot go to God through an idol, through a middleman. It's a violation of the Ten Commandment. it's subject to hell too then it's subject he doesn't believe in JC it's subject to a debt Do you believe in JC?

Let him talk He's subject to a debt penalty and a permanent cut for the soul to anyone who follow anyone but God So therefore I'm sure That's not what he meant He said if it makes you feel good That you feel the closer to God

Through Christianity, do that Yeah but if you're not Jewish And you're out there You have to be a righteous genthip And you're worshipping stones That are flying through the sky. And then someone tells you about a Jewish man named Jesus Christ and it helps you come closer to God? I think it's not bad. No, but all Gentiles have to keep the seven laws of

Noah. You can Google them. Right. And they have to believe one of the seven laws to believe in only one God. They wouldn't even know who Noah was if it wasn't for the spread of Christianity. Now, Judaism already explained that 1,300. To who? To you and me? To the whole world. Okay. To the whole world. Yes. People know about Noah before Christianity started. To the 10 billion. African or no, no, a single thing about Judaism. I want to remind you, Judaism started 3,300 years ago in Mount Sinai. It didn't get very far for a very long time. They came, they came 1,300 years later and started their religion. And the very successful one. And a Muslim came 2,000 years later. Another very successful one. Now, I want to conclude. Way more success. I want to conclude my

more, my closing statements. The main difference between Judaism to all the thousands of fake religions and cults that came after is as follows. The Jewish people are the only ones who received the Torah in a public event and they're not going based on a story that someone told them. It's not Mary who came and claimed she had a dream right away, it starts with 50% doubt.

Or Muhammad that came and said that came. Let's keep the closing statements under three hours. It says, it is not Muhammad that claim that Angel Gabriel gave him the Quran when he was alone in a desert. It's not Buddha that claim that he was, was alone and he saw the light and you want to either believe him or don't it starts right the way with 50% doubt judism started in a public event in front of millions of witnesses all of

them it's written in a book and they all got the book and they all confirmed that what's written in the book actually happened to them the book referred to the people that accept the Torah all of you saw that i took you out of egypt i split the rizzi for you you heard me speaking to god in front of your eyes. If one of the things that written in the Torah was not correct, nobody would accept Moses. No one would change their lifestyle. No one would like a quick snappy. No one would keep it. You can check me out on Instagram. Yo, I'm dropping a new album next week. All right. So good. You gave me a good idea. I'm going to release an album? Since I'm limited in time, I encourage every one of you to watch my film, Torah and Science. And you get all the proofs.

I thought you were going to say I get all the profit. I was about to get really excited. How do you know that the book is for sure from God and how do you know for sure it's not from God? Put Rabbi Mizrahi, Torah and science. And if you want to watch my debate with a Christian professor, which were three hours with details. And that professor, unlike them, he was knowledgeable and was actually believing in Christianity. And he didn't have one answer. And he claimed, in the end he said, I don't have one answer.

Until today, I'm waiting for him to give one answer. So you have anyone who's searching for the truth. Rabbi Mizrahi, Torah and science, and the debate. That's it. That's my closing statement. 0.2% of the world is... Search Google for Rabbi Mizrahi. Don't forget.

Absolutely. Point 2% of the world is Jewish. Sounds like a conspiracy theory in some ways to me. The number is so small. Obviously it's not. I worship a Jew. I take the Old Testament very seriously. But to say that all of these other religions are just bunk and don't take them seriously and they're all fairy tales,

when your religion is 0.2% or less of the world, I think you've got to be a little more honest and do a little bit more digging and take them a little bit more seriously. Historically, you took it like theologically today. You literally just took the whole thing theologically. I wouldn't do that. I do a little bit more historical research on Islam or Christianity or any of them. So that's the one that I struggle with. If everybody has to become a Jew, well, there's less than 0.2% of the world.

Jews got some serious work to do. Well, you want to take us to the light. Tracks doesn't, but you clearly do want to at least show us some serious type of light. You've been arguing very seriously today. Yeah, come on. Yeah, don't. Listen, if you want to go to heaven, you have to open his refrigerator, run the shabbies, and turn on the stove, and turn it on.

just still confused for my Jewish friends to answer. It's what I started with. Why do I stand over at the Roman Coliseum and 380,000 predominantly Jewish Jews were butchered to death for their claim that Jesus Christ, who is a Jew, rose from the dead as the son of God. They changed their minds overnight. You have to come up with a theory to debunk that if you are a Jew and don't believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Otherwise, you have to say, wow, why in the world, 380,000 dying in the one Roman Coliseum, why would they do that? Was there some kind of crazy lie that spread? Was there some type of crazy drug that was in the water? What was the deal? And so for me, when I'm standing there and I'm seeing the impact of the Christian faith overnight, I just start to say, wow, I have no

alternate theory that can say why did so many thousands overnight, based off this resurrection claim, all of a sudden start believing that Jesus Christ is the son of God? Go ahead. All right. Solomon slaughtered thousands of lambs, goats, bulls. Hezekiah slaughtered. Thousands of lambs, bulls and goats. Josiah, another Jewish king.

slaughtered thousands of lambs, goats, and bulls. Why? They understood that the wages of sin is death. They understood that a sacrifice had to be made in order for atonement to occur. Jesus Christ claimed to be the Lamb of God who laid down his life to make atonement for sin, a fulfillment of all the whole sacrificial system

throughout the law, the prophets, and the rightness. Why would I ever believe that Jesus was the Lamb of God who laid down his life to make atonement for sin? Because the quality of his ethical teachings, the Sermon on the Mount, because of the quality of his life living up to those teachings, I've tried to live up to those teachings, I have failed miserably. Thirdly, the quality of his death, as he's nailed to a wooden crossbeen, instead of cursing his enemies, he prays Father, forgive them for they know not what they do. But fourthly, and most importantly, the quality of his resurrection from the dead convinces me that indeed Jesus is the Lamb of God who lay down his life to make atonement for sin. Okay, so we'll give you an Among Us VR. Hold on a second.

We'll give you $30 on fortnight. Nice. And what does the great rabbi get? The great rabbi gets to also play Among Us. them on VR. That's amazing. What's that? It's a video game.

So you can play it with them if you want to have a further discussion. You can keep it for yourself. Really? I have no time for video. I stole it from Target. The code doesn't even work. My friend over there. All right, here you're a gamer.

You'll get it, you'll get it. Toss it to her. Come. Toss it like a fris-biz. You guys wanted to talk about out there. Maybe you guys should have some closing statements as well. Do you want to have a closing statement? Are we done here?

Well, come to say it to the mic at least. All right. I did it. All right. We can't hear you. You have to come to the mic. I tell you what he said. He said that if you listen to my lecture in the last 32 years.

He wants you to listen to the Christian lecture where he defeated him over the course of three hours. I know. And how much I help them. And how much I help them with all the problems day and night. You don't get two closing statements. To come and hint. Everybody gets one. To come and hit and claim that I'm a racist, that's completely off.

I just caught what J.C. say about the Gentiles. Not me. It's not my opinion. I'm not the final. I'm not the founder of Christianity. I'm just speaking in the name of their God. That's all. Thank you so much.

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