The Matan Show - Matan & Bryce Crawford Discuss G*y Marriage, Jesus Christ

Episode Date: October 19, 2025

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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Bryce Crawford. Welcome in. Good to see you. Nice to meet you. I'm going to you. So please take the mic and introduce yourself in case anybody doesn't know you. And you're related to Bryce Mitchell? No, I don't even know who's Bryce Mitchell. The UFC fighter?

Oh, no, I'm not related to him, but I like the UFC. Yeah, I'm a UFC fan as well. Today's co-host, Mike. I almost forgot about him. You don't know Bryce Mitchell? I thought you guys are related. You had the same name. Isn't that how it works? You know, sometimes, I think it'd be kind of cool.

Maybe you can host like a Bryce reunion and we can all meet. He's a Christian as well. Oh, yeah? Yes. Oh, well, that's sweet. Yeah, I love Jesus and we already have something in common. Right. So in case anybody doesn't know, you please introduce yourself and all that one.

Yeah, I'm Bryce. I'm 21. I love Jesus. I'm a Christian and we make videos that teach people about the Bible, Jesus, sharing our faith, all that stuff. You do it by yourself, you say the way, is that like a multiple thing? Like our team. Like, I got Chris here and Dylan, so they help, like, capture all this stuff on video for us. Now, with homeless people, is it believed that they have souls?

Yeah, I believe every human being has a soul. Even the homeless. Yeah, even the homeless. Now, to be honest, I'm probably not as religious as you, but when I see them, it's like, I... Can I see that for a second? Mm-hmm. What is this thing? Celsius.

Just, you sponsor you? No, no, no, no, I just like them. That might not be true. Oh, wow. Oh, all right, but we'll hide it. All right. Um, what was I saying? Um, you were talking about the homeless.

Oh, yeah, when I see them, you know, they, sometimes their eyes are just kind of like. Hey, Kyah, go back to the back. Say, said, dude, I don't you. Kyle, stop being such a fucking baby, okay? He probably stopped his foot or something He probably got his foot tangled up Is that a shock? No, it's not.

No, it's not. Okay. Back to the homeless. Yeah, sometimes I look in their eyes And it's like I'm talking to a lizard. You know, when their eyes look like They have the little slit in them And it's like not a human.

It's just, it looks like there's nothing behind it. Sure. Well, yeah, like the Bible would say That every human being is valuable, whether you like got a million dollars in your bank account or no money in your bank account. Right. And so, like, it breaks my heart when I see people, you know, like people treat them differently.

You know, you go in L.A., you go to, like, the Hollywood Boulevard. And you see all the homeless people when people walk by and they treat them differently. And the Bible would say, well, they're of equal value just as you and me. I don't treat people based off how much money they have. I feel like there's just a distinctive thing between, you know, poor middle class reaching and homeless. It's almost like a different race of people. Well, like, you know, you ever been to Skid Row? I've sent people there, but, like, sort of.

Like, who aren't from Los Angeles. I would never go there myself. Yeah, so we just went to Skid Row like a couple weeks ago. And there was a dude who was in a wheelchair, was severely injured, who doesn't do any drugs, who doesn't drink any alcohol. He's just in a bad position. And why would he go to Skid Row? Well, he's just in a bad position.

He's down on his luck. You know, he doesn't have any money. He's injured. He can't get a job and things like that. And so. Yeah, but why would he go to the worst, most drug infest? I mean, if he's a little slow, that's okay. I mean, I'm just wondering.

Well, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's a sense of community. Maybe he doesn't want to feel alone and there's people there, you know, but even if you go over there, it just breaks your heart and you look at the suffering of the world and you go, man, like, we need hope. You know, we need hope. And so that's why we've got to love those people the same ways because they need the same hope that we have as Jesus, you know? I would agree with that sentiment if I believed they were people.

You know what I mean? What if we, it's kind of like an animal? Well, what makes them different from you? They're not really communicative when I ask them. when I ask them for a dollar you should see their reaction it's like they're having a seizure but when they ask me for a dollar and I say no it's the same thing

they can't believe it either way the only way they're happy is if I give them something what if I give them a knuckle about that yeah you know I don't think that I don't think I wouldn't like it if you get me a knuckle yeah but you're not homeless you're a nice Christian guy

yeah but I think that's what love is right you know that's what society says society says treat people differently according to where they come from what's their status how they are sure their people well i think we look at them like what makes them different from you and me just because they have a vice you know well okay well just because they're homeless that doesn't mean they're less valuable than you you know like what it like that's a basic economics is like what's the price that you put on their life and the price that you're putting

on their life is about 45 well well like if you're actually putting a price on their life right what's the value that you're valuing them because they're but even 40 It's like I'm gonna have to put it on sale for the holidays and I still might not be able to get rid of it Well, they don't have a home. We are blessed to have a home, right? And so we can't just say well, they're less valuable because they don't have a home We have to say well they're of equal value because they're a human being made in the entire Come on. Just go the fuck back home. Stop being a fucking baby What what is? What is happening? My dog here is there to make me look like a human Dude, that is not a dog bro

He's got to stay there the entire time And he's not going to be allowed to move from his bed And wander around my house Or drink any water Does he talk? Is he going to say anything? Oh yeah, that's Mike, the co-host But he hasn't talked since we got here He's just a little nervous

Um, okay Anyways, well moving on from homeless people What about Asians? Are they human? Absolutely Oh my God I mean, bro, my videographer is Asian Oh, God Of course he's right

You're a lot more accepting than me. Well, why aren't you accepting? Well, to be fair, it's like the difference for me between Asian and homeless, it's a big difference. Uh-huh. What's the difference? Are you kidding me? Well, like, how do you make the difference in value? That's the thing.

It's like we're talking about value right now. An Asian person probably has an actual net worth that isn't like just scrounges they found on the floor. Like, hey, I have a cup. cup with poo in it. That's what they told me. I mean, or I think they would tell me. I don't interact with them. Well, you know, whether someone has money or not,

whether someone has a bank account or not, right? It's unconditional love that puts the price on people's life. You're not people is my argument. We're not differentiating them, whether based on race or circumstance, we're differentiating them based on human beings. That's what the Hebrew Israelites would say. They would say that black people...

I don't like the Hebrew. I don't believe what they say. But you see, they're kind of making the same. argument that you're making just in a different stance or saying no they're saying that black are the best yes but black Israelites are under the impression that other people are still people i'm under the impression that homeless animals are animals i would you know maybe we could change a term from homeless people to homeless animals yeah that we would get rid of that whole confusion there see i don't even call them like i mean i get that you're calling them homeless people i look at

them as people right people same thing with like i think you're just nicer than me i think yeah i don't know. I think it's just tough for me to interact with them. It just makes me upset. Well, maybe, maybe if you start, maybe if you looked at them through a different lens, maybe if you tried to look through them in a different lens as just people, it would allow you to love them better. Like when we went to Skid Row and we were talking to these guys, they just wanted to be seen as people. And when we, we were seeing them as people, they were hugging us, hanging out with us, shaking our hands. We were eating food with them. Are you sure you're meeting with the homeless people or you're meeting with the

representatives? Yeah, we're meeting with the homeless people. Absolutely. We went to skid row i mean i haven't been there so you have more experience than me but what if i take you there and we hand out food together no i can't do it because i'm i i have all my senses available to me so if i get near a homeless person on skid row it's like i'm going to get upset with the smell i'm gonna i'm gonna it's like i'm gonna go into defense mode yeah i guess it's just you know the matter of of hope right we believe that they can have the same hope that we have as christians right and so even if there's things that are uncomfortable like like uh the setting or the Mel, right? We still want to meet those people where they're at. And so maybe if you went with me, we would have a chance to change that perspective.

I think you're just, I mean, listen, I think what you're doing is, is great. I just, I can't delegate my time to, to homeless people. It's just, if you want to help them, I think that's nice. I just couldn't do it myself. Okay. Well, I'll keep asking you. Maybe we'll see if you come. Maybe we'll, maybe I'll change my mind. Okay. All of America's much more consequential violence. Okay. It's the same. reason as to why America. Kaya, please just fucking go back. Stop! Jesus Christ! What are you doing? You're being such a baby.

It's just... You're making her stressed? She's just so incredibly spoiled from my mom. No, she doesn't want to come over here to see what's up. She wants to roam the house because she got to roam the house when I was gone and she needs to have literally the same structure.

regimented. I hate everything. I just hate everything. Is it a sin to steal from your neighbor whose wife you're cheating with before killing him because you're jealous on Saturday? Lie to the police about it and then go home and punch your mother and father in the face while repenting to multiple gods made out of metal while taking the Lord's name in vain. I think you might have just described

the opposite of the Ten Commandments right there absolutely No, I'm asking if that's a sin That whole thing right there Yeah, I mean, can I read that? Yeah, go ahead I mean, that was Dude, this is like

I feel like I'm reading Sanskrit right now Homeless wrote it It's like you wrote it, bro Let's see, is it a sin to steal from your neighbor whose wife you're cheating on. Yeah, bro, all of this is a sin. Sin separates us from God, right? That's what the Christian would say.

All that is it. I'm giving him a nasty look to let him know not to move. Oh, you see what he's doing? Hey, I'm scared. Taya, go back to your spot. I need to look like a human. Dude, there's so much going on right now. That's a dude.

That is a guy. Can I see that? That's a dog. Can I see that? yeah by the way it doesn't say e caller it says um caller for letting your dog know not to run in the street and bite other dogs my dog is trained well i can't i don't even have anything here by the way bro he's been sitting on that dog bed the whole time that's a dude that's a doggy that is a guy that is a literal body bro what are you doing that's my he's petting my dog

i'm like i'm not gonna lie i'm not someone that gets really shocked right easily I've never seen anything like this in my life I've never heard anything like this in my life you never saw somebody

with a dog well no I've seen furries like he looks like a furry that's not a furry that's my dog Kaya and the thing is I say outrageous political things

and I want to look normal so I have a dog there to make me look rational yeah this is yeah I don't even know I don't even know what to say but yes that to answer a question that is all

of that is sin. That wouldn't be okay? No, no. I wasn't planning on doing it myself. I'm not married. I'm just, I'm just asking. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, just, even outside of a crucial perspective, like, it would suck to be in a relationship and then get cheated on. You know, it would suck to murder someone or be murdered. You wouldn't support cheating on your wife, you're saying? You said what? You wouldn't want to cheat on your wife if you had one? No, never in a million years do I want to cheat on my wife. Okay, that's interesting. Um, who would... Do you want to cheat on your wife? I don't have a wife, I mean, when you say cheat, I feel like it could mean different things.

It could depend on the relationship what they consider cheating is. Like, what do you consider cheating? Well, I actually, I mean, it's tough to say. I mean, are you saying in terms of like sleeping with another person? Well, I mean, the Bible would address it as adultery. Like adultery is like sleeping with another person. I mean, I'm waiting for marriage anyways. I don't support like the hookup culture.

I'm not a big fan of it anyways. Praise God. So I probably wouldn't do that. but I want to like cheat and steal from my wife and her family is what I mean I'm into doing that what does that mean like I want to get one up on her family so Fred like Thanksgiving dinner it's like oh I got you last year I took your money okay I thought you were getting in a good investment again I don't Matton I don't think I've ever met anyone like you you're very I'm honest about it but I'm a good guy yeah I think is he's what I'm like so there's so many things happening this guy he's got a Is that a t-shirt on his face? Okay, what is what is happening bro? My dog is not allowed to move and I don't have any call on. Okay, my dog is not being abused.

Ha ha, happy dog. Okay, well, um, uh, yeah, I mean, you know, I think, I think all that stuff that described there is sin, the Bible would describe it as sin and the biblical perspective, his sin separates us from God. Right. But, but like being a Christian, trusting that Jesus's way is better, right? So, like, a lot of the world would say all this stuff is okay. There's people that worship idols.

There's people that cheat on their wives. There's people that indulge in sexual immorality. There's people that do this and that. But you're, like, trusting that Jesus' way is better. Yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, I don't worship idols. I don't do probably any of those things that I listed. I was just asking generally if that would be a sin.

I mean, I don't go home and pray to, like, metal objects. I don't really know how that would work. I'm not a fan of that either. Who would win in a battle? Goliath from the Bible or Crota, son of Orix? Who's the second person? Crota son of Orix? Yeah, who is that?

He's the hive. I don't know if I'd say a hive god, I believe. Oh, shoot. I have no idea. I'd probably say. Yeah, dude, neither of those. I don't believe in that guy. You don't believe in Crota, son of Orix?

No, no, I don't. Do you believe in Orix? I don't even know what that is. It's the hive gods Like Greek mythology No from From the video game destiny Oh I mean I yeah I have no

It's not like a religion If you're implicit like saying you don't believe in it like It's not like a real religion Yeah no I actually have no idea Actually you killed them in the game Okay yeah I would say I You know I can we add in a third option

Okay Jesus Who would win in the battle Yeah Jesus Goliath and then who that guy is? Well, Jesus would automatically win. I'm saying a physical battle. I imagine you don't want Jesus to physically fight either of these people, right?

Well, not, I mean... He seems to be a pretty peaceful guy. Well, when Jesus returns, he's going to return on a white horse with a sword coming from his mouth. That's what Revelation teaches. Oh, so he will become physical. Kind of, I guess you could say? Like, he's going to, like, we believe that sin has cursed the earth. So he's going to show up on some sort of unicorn and take down his He's going to, well, no, he's going to come on a white horse, right?

And he's going to end suffering once and for all. He's going to destroy the antichrist. He's going to put Staten in his book. That's exactly what I just said. Is it not? It's definitely not what you said. That's what I said. I just worded it differently.

I made it real simple. Yeah, that's not what you said, but it's okay. That's okay. That's what I said. We'll move on. Is it possible to buy someone's soul and then resell it for a higher price like shoes? No. No, it's impossible to sell your soul

I think like how can you sell something That's not yours to sell It's not belonging to the To each individual Like I think selling your soul is like Me as a Christian Right like I wouldn't promote Any sort of like

Own Oh I agree And so me selling my soul would be me Like promoting only fans for money Does that make sense Like I'm not like literally selling my soul But I'm like selling out Does that make sense

Um Sort of I get what you mean. I'm saying like more of a literal understanding of that. Like somebody literally sells me their soul and then I take it to like Melrose Avenue and sell it for like 20% higher. And then that guy resells it for an even bigger fee. Yeah, I just I don't, I don't think that can happen. So I don't really have a response.

But they do the same thing with shoes. Yeah, I think it's a little different. You're talking about something physical versus like something intangible. You know what I mean? Should I be allowed to own slaves? No, absolutely not. Why not? Because it's got Jesus hates slavery. But I wanted a slave.

He would have been like pretty cool. I got a guy working for me for free. Well, slavery is not cool. You know, we want to show people that most respect. I don't support slavery. You just said you wanted a slave. I mean, I want one. I don't support the slave trade.

Well, why do you want one but you don't support the slave? That doesn't mean. Because if I was like the only guy with a slave, that would be pretty cool. I don't think that would be cool. I could do like in the muse. Park come to the one place in the in the I need to look like a human his I go back to the bell bro his face is sticking out of the the mouth it's a dog it's named Kaya okay can I see that that thing look I took the prongs off so he

doesn't really shock him you see yeah but can I can I see it care if I see it I'm just gonna hold on to this no you can so that you like don't I'm gonna kick him in the head if you don't give it to me. Yeah, I'm... Instead of getting a little vibration telling him, I'll attack him physically. Bro, I'm not gonna let you hit that guy. Come on, give me a fist bump down there.

Come on. It's a suffering dog. You think he's gonna give you a fist bump? You think I train him to do funny tricks? I mean, my dog can do a handshake, but it's obviously not a dog. What do you think that is? Yo, what is he doing?

I told you, you need to give me my shock collar back. Dude, I can't, I can't do that. You're like shocking him No, it's not a shock caller It's uh I don't even know I can't keep up with my lies anymore There's no way this is

This does not feel real I feel like I'm in a nightmare right now That's my dog, okay All right All right No, I can't give you back that I can't give back to you bro No, it would be stealing

You'd be seething from me Okay well I'll steal from you this time You can't do that it's not allowed I'll steal for me this time Bro look at this thing I cannot give this to you. This is like, bro, this is real deal. This is the first time he's leaned over to me.

Dude, what? I need it back. I'm sorry, I need my thing back. I need my dog to stay there so people can perceive me as a human. Okay. Okay. Hey, guys, sorry for the interruption. I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Price Peaks.

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problem when someone calls a dog cute but when my friend John who is a registered said the same thing to a six-year-old he was arrested again well um I think you got two different contexts right you have you have someone who's my fucking children. No, he didn't. He didn't touch them again. That was last time. Well, he's a child.

No, he, he, he, all he did was pee in public. Yeah, that's still a weird. Yeah, but he was like intoxicated. Yeah, well, that's a lot going on. He was intoxicated. He peed in public. He's a, he's a child. No, he was a, he's a registered.

Because he peed in public. Yeah, I, you know. He got added to the registry. And he also, uh, like, touched a couple of people. Okay, yeah. So he, he peed in public. and touched a couple people so I would no wonder why it's weird if he says

someone's a situation. But then why can people say it to a dog? Well, dog's a little bit different. What? Dog can't consent. Well, a dog is an animal. I mean, even the Bible condemns bestiality. That's what I'm saying. But no one's calling a dog cute like to, I don't know why I pointed at him

because that's not a dog. But the no one's calling a dog cute. You're calling him cute? No, I am not calling him cute. My dog is not cute? I am not that is not a dog. That is a dog. That is a dog I don't even know what that guy looks like My doggie

That guy That guy has been sitting there The whole time We've been here But yeah Like that is a little bit different Anyways let's move past That whole thing about my friend John

Maybe realizing he's not a great friend To be around If someone is Jewish Is it possible for them To be saved in Christianity Or is it over before it started Um Yeah it's possible for anyone to be saved

Are you serious? Atheist agnostic yeah Even Jewish? Yeah. Oh, no. Jesus was a Jew. Okay. I mean, we're putting faith in a Jewish carpenter.

Carpenter? That was his trade. He was a carpenter. Like, he did flooring? Like, he made, like, chairs and... My manager, viral flooring. He makes floors go viral. He makes floors go viral?

Yes. Hardwood floor? My dad does hardwood flooring. Bro, please not. Chias, please stop being a fucking baby, man. Just sit there. there okay I would never understand that did you just kicking what is happening this is

can you can we take his hold on hold on can we just take his mask off for a second look this isn't a shock holder by the way just so you know oh my how did how did he just sit crisscross applesauce. If that's a dog, how did he just sit crisscross applesauce? I mean, it's a weird looking dog, but that doesn't mean he can't sit normally. Yeah, that is interesting.

If women become pastor, how can they cook? Yeah, you know, I mean, my personal perspective on scriptures that women shouldn't be pastors. But, well, that's, I mean, I guess I'll give you fist, blah, blah, blah. that women shouldn't agree with you well they shouldn't be pastors but it doesn't mean they can't share their faith they can't be that doesn't mean they can't be preachers evangelists things like that just the role of a pastor yeah well that's what i'm saying i agree um but i think women can do more than cook they can they can they can clean they can make the bed they can walk around the house and say nice things as long as they don't get smart with you well you know proverbs 31 talks

about women being clothed in dignity and it does talk about them working with their hands That's what I'm saying But this is what it says Charma is deceitful Beauty is fleeting But a woman who fears the Lord Is to be praised And so the same way

That like me as a Christian We want to fear Jesus And let that be an attractive quality For myself You're saying Should fear the man in the house No no no Fear Jesus

Fear the Lord Right The fear of the Lord It's like a loving respect For God It's like you love Jesus enough Yeah but they would I imagine that would also go for men

Right Well the way God designed marriage Right Is he made the man The leader of the household Because men are more logically hardwired and women are more emotionally hardwired you know so it's not that emotions are a bad thing it's just logic outweighs emotions sometimes and so the role the man is to lead well be courageous

stand firm it's because women realistically and this is with no disrespect they are not functional human beings on the level that they can consider anything uh besides just in the moment they're not able to think even five seconds ahead well i i think they can i mean there's many female figures in scripture that have been used for significant ways no but the world Women nowadays is different from, you know, the women in the Bible. I mean, I think every human being, it's definitely different now. They're human beings. I'm not gay.

I don't want to live in a house with a man. That would be a nightmare. I would, I'm just suggesting that women, despite that, even though I don't, I'm not a big fan of might even be dumber than gus. Well, you know, I mean, I think that we're definitely in a different cultural time period now. So when it comes to like, yeah, men and women both are going to be a little bit different. now but the same roles apply right in scripture the man is still supposed to lead well be strong and courageous be firm the woman is supposed to be like a proverbs 31 woman clothe herself

and dignity work with her hands enjoy the the fruit of her labor um fear the lord all of these things do you believe in disciplining your wife disciplining my wife uh what like no no if she if she slept in and forgot to cook you lunch i mean i mean i mean anything like even outside of your wife you could just have conversations with people and address stuff that was making sure you didn't move i mean yeah you know i think like yeah i think that that you can have conversations with many people that's what we try to do in our videos is that we have conversations with people that disagree you know so we we realize that having conversations with people lead to more fruit than just hitting someone you know right um why didn't make a wish respond when

I told them I wanted to meet John Cena I don't know do you have a physical ailment do you have oh Kaya go back to the fucking bed wow I do not know please do not kick him again that is a you just smacked him in the face No, I didn't I'm training my dog Am I not allowed to train a dog? I think that there's definitely different ways

to train the dog other than like hitting it No, I didn't hit him Just completely different ways What? Did you just hit him with a table? Is he ever gonna talk? I didn't hit my dog

I would not do that Bro, there's eight cameras in here We just caught eight different angles Of you kicking your dog Of him hitting him in the face With the table, you just smacked him in the face his back just popped he's a happy dog

he's a happy dog his name is kaya dude he's been holding the same facial expression since we've gotten here because it's a mask he's a happy face that's not a dog no i think that face is a face of terror that's not a happy looking gesture

no not at all oh look he's so happy you guys might you guys need some serious help. Are you happy? You guys need serious help. Are you happy? Is he tickling him? No, he's punching his head. But lot soft punches. I don't think, with all due respect, I never said this in my life. You guys might need some serious help. Why did we do wrong? You got, I don't

know what's going on in this room. I've never seen a setting like this before. Yeah, this is crazy. Okay, well, let's move on. I'm in shock. Um, does God control the outcome on rain bet what's rain red that's like a um gambling yeah it's like those little balls and i got point two and i wanted to get to get five at least god does not control it on rain bet i think the their their tech system controls it so that he can't help me win i mean look i don't think gambling is wise you know the bible calls us to be good stewards of finances but one dollar can only lose you one dollar but it can also make you a million I, you know, I can't give you a fist bump there, but...

You're going to leave me hanging on that? I just gave you a pretty crucial piece of advice. I mean, that, you know, I think you can do a lot more wise things with your money for sure. So I can't... But you could have more money to do more wise things with if you win the lottery or win big in gambling. Yeah, I think there's like a couple different things. It's like being a good steward, also the ways you make your money. And I don't want to make my money gambling my money.

I feel like I'm dishonoring God. There's other ways that I can be dishonorable to win in gambling. I see a lot of people from every different religion gambling. I don't think it's necessarily right. There's not a scripture that necessarily condemns gambling, but the Bible calls us to be good stewards, and I don't think gambling or money is good stewardship of money. Right.

Do you think circumcisions are causing re-hsitting? Um, no. No? No. I don't know if I believe that's what RFK said. You know, I have no idea. You didn't hear him say doc? No, I did not hear him say that Dude, it's mind-blowing because that's a real human in there. I don't even think you knew that you were gonna hit him this amount of times

There's no way I did not. Oh hi doggy I did not hit him. I did not Um, what were we talking about? Can you fuck your glasses? Dude, I'm like... What were we saying? Uh, circumcision. He said that when the kids at a young age get circumcised, they get Advil,

and that's causing them to get down syndrome and be autistic. That's what he said. I'm not joking. Yeah, dude, you know, I think that there could be many different things that cause autism. You know, there can be different vaccines and things like that. But I think, I don't think circumcision is necessarily at bad. thing. I'm not suggesting circumcision is a bad thing either. I'm asking if you think it's like medically because of the Advil, I guess, causing autism. Yeah, I have no idea. I don't know

anything about it. Do you know a RFK? I know who he is. I don't know whether I trust him because he said some things. Sometimes I think it's right. Sometimes I think it's wrong. His voice is a little hard to listen to, to be completely honest. I mean, I think what he's trying to do, it's great, you know, trying to keep America healthy and things like that. You said what? I said that I like. Yeah, it's pretty nice. You know, I think that was something I got convicted on was like I need to honor God with my body and with my health and like working out and things like that.

So I appreciate someone making an effort, you know. Did you know that Neil DeGrasse Tyson is most likely not the reincarnation of the Dusseldorf vampire? The, you know, I don't think anyone's reincarnated, but I don't even know what the... You don't believe in reincarnation. Not at all. Really? I've talked to Christians before who do believe in that. Well, they're lying.

I don't know why they believe that. They must not be Christian. I know, I know for sure that some rabbis believe in it. Um, yeah, you know, I can't control what other people believe, but it's not biblical. He is choking out the dog. What is, I feel like, I feel like I need to do something, but I don't know what to do. This is so, he's shocking the dog. He just choked him out.

I don't think that thing works anymore. I'm glad. What is, I have never. I don't. know what to think right now my dog kaya needs to stop misbehaving she she's spoiled wait hold on you just called it a he earlier whatever you called it a she because my mother was there and she let my dog roam around the house why should my dog be allowed to roam around the house and not sit in the same spot for eight hours a day dude i i i honestly don't i don't

what I'm supposed to say. I don't even know if there is something I'm supposed to say. Getting back to the reincarnation thing, a lot of rabbis believe it, for sure. I mean, they shouldn't believe it. I don't even think they do. No, I talked to a rabbi on my show about a year and a half ago, and I asked him, and he explained to me that, depending on if you're a bad guy, you can be reincarnated as an apple. Well, yeah, I mean, the Christian perspective would not believe in reincarnation. and we get one life to choose Jesus or not.

If we choose Jesus, God grants that wish, we spend an eternity for him with him. If we decide that we want to live our way instead of God's way, it breaks God's heart and he grants that wish and we spend an eternity separate from him. So you don't believe you could come back as an apple? No. I thought that was ridiculous when I heard it too. Yeah, it's very ridiculous. But I'm just saying, that's what I heard.

And by the way, I have talked to Christians who believed it. Yeah, that's interesting. I'm sorry because I don't think they believe in the Bible. well maybe they just misinterpreted it or whatever maybe maybe i can't speak i imagine they're not bad intentioned sure um in an ideal world what are women allowed to do um i mean i think men and women have a lot of freedoms now again today an ideal world what is that i don't even know what that question means in a world that is how we want to be not one how it is today with a lot of the bad stuff going on i mean the way that i mean the way that god i mean the way that god

God initially designed the world is for human beings to be in relationship with him, you know? So I think that the ideal world would be to go back to that, and that's what Jesus is bringing. When he returns again and ends all suffering, he's bringing us back to how God designed at the Garden of Eden, perfect relationship with him, you know? Right. Should gay people be allowed to have children? Um, like in what context? Like, should they be able to, what do you mean? So gay people, I guess, are getting married, which I don't support initially anyways.

But they're getting married, I don't know if you can tell, but my political beliefs, I'm like 60, I wouldn't say 60 years behind. I'm 60 years ahead, which is the beliefs from 60 years ago. You see what I'm saying? Sure. Yeah, I guess I see what you're saying. I don't know if that made sense, but. Do you support gay marriage? No, I don't support gay marriage.

Well, that's what I'm saying, that we're ahead on that. Well, I think that, like, when it comes to... You're not a fistbalming on that? Dude, I don't know. I feel weird fistbalming you. I like why what do I do I don't know I feel weird fist bumping you but I will say this that the Bible talks about homosexuality that homosexuality the act of homosexuality is sinful right so I have I have friends that are Christian that used to be gay that

aren't gay anymore that they still do shock therapy shock therapy no I don't even know I don't even know what that is you haven't heard of it no I think it's kind of when you shock a person who's gay and instilled that they're being shocked because they're gay and then they will stop being gay hopefully yeah i don't think that's necessarily a good way to deal with it you know how else can you fix it go to jesus you know because that make them not gay look i can't say that for some people they go to jesus that struggle with same sex attraction and god takes it away some people go to jesus for the same thing and god doesn't necessarily take it away but god helps them through it does that make sense so just because you

have the temptation to do so I don't have that just in general any temptation just let's say you have a temptation to do something it's not the temptation that's necessarily sinful it's if you act on it right and so Jesus gives people the strength to say notice something like same-sex attraction to act on it so the Bible condemns homosexual activity but that doesn't mean i condemn it as well I completely agree with but that but that doesn't mean whether you're a heterosexual human or a homosexual human good bad that doesn't mean that that there are lesser value. Does that make sense? Every human being is valuable. That's tough for me to agree with that last part. Well, it's because we believe that every human being, whether they're homeless, whether they're

gay, whether they're black, Asian, white, they're all made in the image of God. They bear God's image. They have the imprint of God in their life. And the price that God puts on every human being's life is his own because he died for us. That's the gospel. Jesus put his price, put his life as the price for every human being's life. saying you're generally against homophobia and racism yeah I mean I don't think you have a reason to be afraid of gay people I don't think you have a reason to be afraid of other races I think God you actually interpreted that right I wouldn't say I'm a homophobic like I'm rude to gay people I mean that I mean I am but that's not what I mean when I say I'm homophobic I am literally

scared of them I don't think you have to be scared of them I think I think they're all valuable and just because that they I mean we're talking about two different categories here we're talking about sexual orientation and something you can't control you can't control what race you're porn you know no no racism is a whole different thing i mean but but like with something like homosexuality or heterosexuality there's a lot of heterosexual sin that happens within christianity like pastors cheating on their wives right people watching so like it's not that like you're just condemning one people group it's there's a lot of sin going on and we need jesus to help with our sin i'm gonna shock and i'm not i'm gonna shock my dog why why would you shock him

there's nothing that just happened within the last three minutes that would make you want to shock this guy right here is there a way I can guarantee long neck goes to hell that wait why did you just ask I don't even know what you just asked is there a way I can guarantee long neck goes to hell what is long neck he's my next guest coming in in four minutes

okay um I don't think I don't want him to go to hell I don't want anyone to go to hell. He's a bad guy, I'm telling you. I don't want anyone to go to hell. For one, he does own s and two, he is a creepy-looking individual. Well, you know what? Whether he's, whether I don't know how he's built, what he looks like, or whatever, but he's just as valuable.

Did he have a long neck or I have a normal neck? I guess you have a normal neck. It's like his neck goes instead from here to here to here, to here, to here, to here. Yeah, you know, I don't know how or why he looks the way he does, but he's made in the of God and he's valuable wrong neck is made in the image of God he's made in the image of God I don't even know what to say I mean I I like right now every human being on the planet deserves hell you deserve hell I deserve hell long neck deserves hell he deserves hell that guy deserves hell but dog but that's a dude and when you have Jesus in the

picture when you put your faith in Jesus you're at asking you're asking Jesus to pay the price that you and I deserve to pay in hell does that make sense so like a murderer deserves to go to jail you and I deserve death because of sin but it's like Jesus pays the price so we're transferring the sins to him essentially yeah and the Bible says he who knew no sin became sins that you and I could become the righteousness of God so is there a way that we can do that without letting long neck do it um well the offers on the table for everyone but I don't like long neck well I like long neck and I've never met him before you don't even know who he is what if he's a horrible guy well i still love him you'd be surprised if you mad him i think you would change your mind well i i if i do run into him i look forward to meeting him hold on one second Am I supposed to There's literally a human and a dog costume next to me I've never been in the circumstance before

Well anyways that'll be it Thanks for coming on I appreciate it Thanks, Paton. I appreciate you. Nice to meet you. That was actually, I appreciate the conversation, and I just want to let everybody know. I didn't shock my dog. It's not an e-caller. But you did beat him. No, I never would hit my dog.

I treat my dog well. He's the most spoiled. Kaya, he's the most spoiled dog in the entire world. There are five cameras in here, five different angles. They watched you just beat. When I'm streaming, there's an angle here, here, here, and here. But I make sure that none of them can. see the little stand where the camera's at.

I don't understand what this guy is doing. I don't under, I don't know. Place. He looked... Like, did you just ask him? Place.