The Matan Show - Matan Calls Out Colby Covington For Scamming His Fans

Episode Date: June 29, 2025

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Colby Covington, please welcome in. For today's co-host, please welcome in Mike. Welcome in Mike. Thanks for coming, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me, brother. Appreciate you. Welcome in Mike.

Please, in case anybody doesn't know you, please just introduce yourself and all that one. Okay, so I'm Colby Covington, UFC fighter, former world champion, Donald Trump's favorite fighter, the King of Miami. So it's an honor to be here and talk to you today. Always a pleasure to sit down with Matan. He's a young bright mind and someone that a lot of kids should look up to and aspire to be like. Shouldn't be considered an official win if you get your opponent to kill themselves before the fight?

Yeah, I think that should be a win by default. Absolutely. That should definitely be a win, you know. Not by touching them or anything, just encouragement or something like that. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think that that's deep mind games and if you're able to beat someone in the mind like that before the fight, then you win by default. And it should count on the record. It should count on the record.

Why not? I think you should get a win for that, right? What about the other guy's record? Should he have a loss? Should he have any of his wins wiped or how should that work? Yeah, I mean, I think that he should definitely have the win and, you know, there shouldn't be any losing. If you beat someone before they ever show up to the fight, then that's a win.

Why do people keep telling me to call Triple H when my car breaks down? Yeah, Triple H is a, you know, a great service that can come pick you up. They can do more than just wrestle in a ring and be a coach. Yeah, but it's just one guy. How's he going to go around and fix everybody's car? Man, he's a superhero. That one guy could fix everybody's car at the same time. He's a legend like that.

Yeah, he might be a cool guy and stuff, but I don't think he has any extra capabilities. Maybe he's like a steletic or something. But I feel like that would be about it. I heard he can fly though. Did you know he can fly? You can fly? Triple H can fly.

Triple H can fly. Yeah, he has wings. Like a plane? Like a plane, yeah, with wings. And it goes up in the air. Yeah, but if he's flying to people's cars on a plane and he has to go through security and stuff, that's just going to take a long time. I know. I think he gonna take a long time.

I know. I think he could do it right away. He could be quick. Yeah, but I'm just one of how many people who need their car fixed. That's true. I already can fix multiple cars at one time. You can fix multiple cars? No, I like to fight.

I'm a fighter. That's my profession. Triple H though, he could do it all. Is the UFC basically like human cockfighting? Some people say that, depends on who you ask. I think there's a lot of people that think that the UFC is human cockfighting and it's why it couldn't get sanctioned in New York for the longest time. We just got it sanctioned in New York a couple years ago. So yeah, a lot of people think it's cockfighting, but it's an expression of art. As martial artists,

we're able to train all these different martial arts and express ourselves inside that octagon and make a better life for ourselves. Say that again? I can't give a take on that, you know. I'm not sure. They all have that little thing on, you know what I'm talking about? Um, no, I'm not sure what you're talking about thing on you know what I'm talking about No, I'm not sure what you're talking about there you never seen that hat okay? I've seen that yeah, it's in that and then I mean give a take on

What's in there all let you I'm Jewish okay cool, but I'm uh my Jewish friends. I Well, I don't know if you'd want to count me as Jewish. It'd be like saying You have a black friend named Candice Owens, but you see what I mean? Uh, yeah, I see what she... I mean, I don't see what you mean. Candice is a friend of mine, but I see that... She's a cool, uh, you know, like white woman, basically. Uh, no, she's definitely an African woman, but, uh... By color, yes.

Not by logic. Okay. You know, that's open to interpretation and opinion, but you know, she's a smart lady and she has her viewpoints and you know, that's what makes America so beautiful is that, you know, it's the land of the free and we all have an entitled to our own opinion. Yeah, but when I say that hat, by the way, I'm not talking about the little one. I'm talking about that one that the rabbis wear. You ever seen the one that goes up all the way?

I haven't seen that one. Their head must be strong because it's carrying so much gold. It must be, right? By the way, I don't know if the mics are working. Can we get in the sound guy, please? Good job sound guy. Ignore that please. He's just checking in, making sure everything is okay. I want one of those hats with a gold in it.

They didn't give me one, that's why I'm not Jewish anymore. He looks like a guy from The Walking Dead. The sound guy? Yeah. But the people can't see him, he added it out so just ignore him like he he'll be if he walks in again later in the thing just ignore him cuz he's not coming in or nothing okay if a restaurant has bad service is it okay to pee on the floor as a punishment yeah I think so I think you know that's definitely okay you know bad service they

always want 20% if you're not gonna do your job. Oh, I'm way beyond tipping. I haven't done that in my whole life. Really? You've never tipped before? They tricked me one time when it was the automatic one at like a sushi restaurant, but then I may be complaining, I peed on the floor. Really? Yeah.

I feel like it was justified. To do that? Yeah, I think so. Did you get in trouble? I mean, what are they going to really... I was like 11 years old, so what are they really going to charge me with? Yeah, I mean urinating in public is... Because if they charge me really, then they have to make it like sort of a headline, and then that's just going to be bad representation for the restaurant.

Ah, that makes sense. That's a good point. But I went back to the place and they weren't doing that tipping trick anymore. Or they didn't do it with my next bill. Really? You're actually really aware of what was happening. Really? Oh, that's interesting. Have you ever tried that?

I've never tried that. I might have to try that next time. You will try it? Yeah. If the great Mouton is giving me the words to try it, I gotta try it out. It may work. What's next for Colby Covington? a hell in a sail match against the Undertaker? I think that would be a great match I think that's a possibility to transfer over to the WWE since they're under the same umbrella with the UFC under the TKO banner Now so it's a possibility. Are you done in the UFC? No, I'm not done in the UFC I still have some unfinished business, but I want big fights You know high level first violent Hall of Famer type fights legacy fights

So if they're not able to do that, you know, then I will transfer over against who would you want to fight next? I mean, I think the paddy pinball fights interesting, you know, he's got a little bit of name right now But only because he's got you know, English accent and a bull cut Otherwise the guys just on you want to fight him cuz he's smaller. It's an easy fight. No, he's actually bigger than me He's a weight boy Yeah, he cuts a bigger than me. He's a weight bully. Yeah, he cuts a lot of weight. But if- well, I mean... He's like a taller guy and stuff?

He's like a taller guy, same height, a little bigger in birth. Wouldn't you be more used to weighing more? I would be a little bit used to weighing more because he's one weight class now, but he cuts more weight. So, he's like a 200 pound guy cutting to 155, cutting 45 pounds you know. And you're you cut weight as well or no? Only like 10 pounds. I'm 170 pounds and I cut like 10 pounds to get to 170. So why don't you fight in like the 120 pound division and you'll have a super advantage?

Yeah, I would have the weight bully advantage but I'm not a weight bully. I don't want to bully people around Alternatively why don't you become heavier so you can compete in the unified championship? I never thought about that before That's a great piece of advice. Thank you. That's yeah, see that's what I need. Why didn't I think of that before? I don't know nobody mentioned it. Yes. I'm not thank you. I appreciate you I don't know why people haven't thought of that because then don't if they do Doubtfight the unified one then everybody's gonna know that they're the best one. That's so true Wow I never really thought about it like that. Thank you. Do you know Dana White? Yeah, can you picture my idea?

I will pitch him your idea. Yeah, I'm supposed to have a meeting with him in a couple days Do you think he'll take me seriously or no? Absolutely who wouldn't take you seriously? You're the most serious guy there is. I think I'm pretty serious. Oh, all the time. I've never seen you not serious. Hey guys, sorry for the interruption. I'm here to promote my Patreon. One lucky subscriber who subscribes in the next 28 hours will get this hard drive, One Lucky Guy.

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... No comment on that one I'm not sure what to say to that Why not? Well, it's not a racist thing but every time I say it to one of them it's like Oh no, I can't say that because they have small eyes But that's not why I said it but they do so what does it become I don't have a opinion on that subject hey what do you mean you don't have any

you have one you just don't want to say it I thought you're a free speech truther I am a free speech absolutist but you know then say something nasty I can't say something that's I don't want to get canceled you know I thought you didn't I thought you wouldn't have cared about that I just I don't say something that's I don't want to get canceled you know I Thought you didn't I thought you wouldn't have cared about that I just I don't talk about race and religion you know everybody Yeah, why you didn't want to comment on my former Jewish stuff. Yeah pretty much I Mean you're like a pretty strong guy you could beat most people in a fight if you saw you would you try to take? What's under his hat?

No, no, I would you know I respect Jews. I have a lot of Jewish friends. But that's the same thing as the Asian. You are doing it because he's Jewish. You're doing it because he has gold and you're telling the Asian person not because of their eyes, but because they're not listening. But why would I want to steal someone else's gold? It's his gold. Because I'm not a thief. Oh, well, I guess then you're better than me. I was just thinking from my perspective if you wanted it or something. Oh, okay. I appreciate that. No, I didn't want it. I'll get my own, you know. I'll work hard and get my own gold. Why not work easy and just take it from them? They have good lawyers. Oh, they do. They have good lawyers. I got

a good lawyer too. And what is he? What? He's one of them? No, no. He's just the great American. You're creating fighting within themselves? No, I don't know what you mean. You're having a Jewish person to another Jewish person. No, no, no Okay, well then you're gonna lose a Chinese scientist said it would be feasible to depopulate India within 48 hours should the plan be executed to depopulate India within 48 hours. Should the plan be executed? Say that one more time.

A Chinese scientist said it would be possible, it would be feasible to depopulate India within 48 hours. Should the plan be executed? Absolutely not. Why would we want to do that to our Indian friends? I don't know man. Why do we want, I mean...

Are they really our friends to begin with if they keep shitting all over the place? What do you mean shitting all over the place? Where do they shit all over? You know what I mean. I don't know what you mean. You're playing pretend with me like you're not on Twitter. Where do they shit all over? Can you explain that one? The floor I guess.

Whatever. I mean come on what are we talking about? I don't know. You're turning into a liberal here. No no. I'm turning you into a liberal. I'm a Republican through and through. Well then say what's on your mind. You want to agree with me, you know I'm right. I can't say I agree with you on that. You're scared you might lose some sponsors? No, but I do respect your opinion because you are entitled to your own opinion. Yes. Love it. Where did Bryce Mitchell get all of his knowledge from?

That's a tough one. I don't know. And why are people so mad at him for being a proud German? Yeah, I mean, he's definitely taken some controversial takes. I think he's uneducated with the way he's speaking and he doesn't really know what happened during the Holocaust. So he probably shouldn't give an opinion on that because it's a wrong one. Maybe you can accept that he might be a little bit biased since he's a German.

Is he German? Yeah, German from Nashville. Oh, interesting. I didn't know. I thought he was from Tennessee or something. That's in Nashville. I thought he was like Kentucky or some weird state, Alabama or some state. Well yeah, then a German from wherever that is, you know what I mean? Yeah. He's a German at heart. Ah, at heart. If you fought the Rock

100 times, do you think you could win? Um, that's a good question. The Rock is tough. He's a freaking absolute unit of a man. Who knows if that people's elbow comes out. That's night-night. What's that move? Just a normal elbow or something? Yeah, just a normal elbow. But the way he sets it up with the legs and he's like boom, drops right on the face.

That seems inconvenient. You have time to get away from him? No, but he gives you a good kick to the stomach, puts you on the ground, you're laying on, and then he does his little flip. Yeah, but why wouldn't you like roll over when he tries hitting you with it? I don't know, no one's ever tried that before. I'm asking if he fought you in like a real fight. No, he's a real fighter man, he's a tough guy, he's a world champion. He's a great

actor, he's just a great businessman. He's an idiot. Why don't fighters just bet on their opponents and then let the other guy win? Because there was a coach that got involved and he ruined that for all the fighters. A guy named James Krause. He was sending his fighters out there with torn ACLs and he would bet hundreds of thousands of dollars on the offshore account on the other opponent. So the fighters themselves didn't even know they were essentially going to lose? I don't know. other opponent. So the fighters themselves didn't even know they were essentially going to lose?

I don't know. I think he worked out a deal with his fighters where he was going to like paying him a percentage to take a dive and go out. So why would they even have to have a torn ACL? Why didn't they just take a dive or something? That's true. I think there was a couple that did just take a straight dive and the feds are involved and now there's no fighter. The only thing, the only problem I can imagine here is if both fighters bet on the other guy and then I don't know what that fight would look like they're both trying to hurt themselves. Yeah that's true what would that look like? I don't know that's what I am I'm asking you. Yeah I don't know I fight real fights I would never sell my soul and take a dive. Not just sell your soul maybe just sell like a fight or something. A fight?

Nah. I don't want to dupe the fans. If I claim to be a libertarian, does that mean I don't have to pay any taxes? No, you gotta pay your fair share of taxes here in America. But I don't believe in it. I'm a sovereign citizen. Really? Yup.

I mean, I'm all about less government control and less taxes for sure but You know we're all freaking you know paying to the IRS and you know There's one there's a couple guarantees in life and death and taxes are two of them Have you ever got pulled over for a speeding ticket and tried the sovereign citizen line? I never tried that did you I tried it they put me on the floor really yeah I didn't work the guy said I need to see license and registration You're going 180 miles in a 40 zone I said I'm a sovereign citizen I don't have to follow the law oh wow okay how'd that work out he pulled me out of the car no did he send you to jail yeah but how could he do that if I said I

don't I'm not part of the state yeah I think that bullshit he should lose his job yeah you're probably right is that maybe that's bullshit. He should lose his job. Yeah, you're probably right. Maybe you should give some advice to Shadr Sanders. I heard he was speeding around that mile an hour the other day. Who's that? Is that the football guy? That's the football guy. Dion's son. He was going like 180 miles in like a 40. So maybe you should give him some advice and tips. Well, he needs to try my...

Well, actually he probably shouldn't because my thing didn't work. Oh it didn't work? No. Oh he didn't tell me that part. I thought it worked. Well I told you they put me on the ground and then arrested me. You did and that's totally not cool.

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That was, that was a good one. You got me. But yeah. I'll get him with the First Amendment and then once he loses control, because they can only sustain so much. Well said. So what do you think? Should it be allowed? Um, yeah I think it should be allowed. Now I think it should be

allowed and I'm a big Constitution guy, the one issue I find with it is that I don't really think it benefits society at all. Just to have dead homeless people on the ground all over the place. Yeah that's true. That wouldn't be a good look but it's pretty much that all over the place anyways. The way the government's incentivizing bums these days, you see the squatting laws where any bum can just squat on someone's land and then they're incentivizing like where I came from in Oregon, the governor's like, hey, we're going to give you heroin needles. The bums just do heroin from our government heroin.

They gave them heroin? They're giving them heroin and clean needles because they're clean. They're coming for the government. Oh, so then it's okay. So then it's okay. Yeah. needles because they're clean, they're covering for the government. So then it's okay. So then it's okay, yeah. You can do heroin as long as it comes from the government. I don't like the squatters either, but now I'm realizing why doesn't somebody just use

this tactic, just stay outside of their home harassing them until they touch you. That's a good point. Because I don't know if they really have that thing where you get to protect your property since it's not theirs. There would have to be like one court case about it to set the standard. If you know how that works, when the first one goes through, they'll usually use that standard in the future. That's true.

Do you have any guns? And we see how incompetent the Supreme Court is, so anything's possible these days. The Supreme Court? Aren't they mostly Republicans now? Yeah, but they're more like rhino libertarians. Well, I'm a libertarian. I don't want to pay taxes. And you're completely justified to think that way, you know, like why should we have to pay so many taxes?

It's just a tax here tax there a tax on your property tax to drive tax to go to the grocery store homeowners Association Or association everything I don't pay that one. You don't know really they don't come seize your property Well, what are they gonna do? They come seize my property? I'm standing outside with a rifle. I tell them come try to take it. Yeah, I gotta try that man I didn't do that. I'm like just dreaming about what I'd want to do. I paid the taxes. I gave him a tip Okay, I think you said you didn't give tips to the restaurants not to the homeowners Association Oh, okay. There's a distinction. No see that well, I'm just scared of the homeowners Association. I'm not scared of the restaurant What are you scared about? What can they do?

Seize my house. Ah, that's true. It makes sense. But yes, going back, I do have many guns. I'm a big believer in having guns. Especially in Florida, there's a law. It's open carry. So DeSantis passed a law where everybody can walk around with guns.

So everybody has guns. If you don't have a gun in Florida- But wouldn't it be in your best interest if people didn't have guns? Because then you're on, if everybody has guns, then you're, you being a fighter doesn't really help. Yeah, I agree. That's why I tell people all the time too. I'm like, yeah, I'm a great fighter, the best fighter in the world, but if someone has a gun, that fighting goes down the drain. Yeah. So why, why do you want people to have guns? I don't want people to have guns, but if people are, the thing is, is everybody's going to find

a way to get guns. They're gonna get them off the black market, they're gonna get them illegal. Criminals are gonna be criminals. So if they're gonna have guns, I wanna have a gun to protect myself. Especially against crazy guys like this. I think even if he had a gun, I think you'd win. I think his first instinct would be to shoot himself. Yeah, he looks a little deprived.

Should Dave Portnoy really be allowed to send people to Auschwitz? Yeah I think so. Why is that fine with when he's allowed to do it but I don't think it's fine either way why does he get to do it? Yeah I mean he gets a whole set of rules because he's in the elite class. What do you mean by that? Barstool, you know, he made a lot of money. Oh, I thought you meant something else. Oh yeah, what do you think I meant? Come on.

Are we serious? Yeah, what do you mean? He had one of those hats on. He had the gold in it? I don't know if he, well, he clearly has the gold in it, but he doesn't wear one of them. Why not? I don't know, maybe he just, I don't know if he, well he clearly has the gold in it, but he doesn't wear one of them. Why not? I don't know, maybe he just, I don't know.

I couldn't answer that for you. You have any idea why? I don't have any answer or idea why either. If you weren't a fighter, what would you be? Probably a baker, right? No, definitely not. Is it fixed? Is the mic fixed?

fixed. Just ignore him, he's not in the video. We're just getting rid of him in the... You know how it works with the thing with the guy, the guy editing? Okay. Ah, that's your editor? No, that's the sound guy, but the editor's going to get rid of him. Oh okay. Did you fix it by touching it? Well just ignore him I'm actually the one getting distracted. Hard to ignore. Well anyways back to the question you'd be a baker? No I would not be a baker that's what a nice lady is for but I would be... No you could be a baker. You think so? Yeah you would would. I appreciate that, thank you. I appreciate the belief in me. Why were you opposed to it in the beginning?

You know, I just never been into baking. I like sports and outdoor activities. So what would you try to do if you weren't a fighter? I think I would try to be a politician. I want to clean up the swamp. I want to drain the swamp. I want to get rid of all these swamp creatures that are selling our country. Just like you said, I want to prove you right.

I want to bring in lower taxes so there's no taxes because I think taxation is theft. So you think your future is as a politician? I think it is, yeah. I may run for Congress here in Las Vegas next year. What would be your selling point? Because I feel like what you're saying is good, but it does it's just what everybody says. Yeah, my selling point is I'm already a made man. I'm not going to sell out, you know, the taxpayer dollar just so I can enrich myself.

I'm going to, you know, support my great online casino BC game. Yeah. The greatest online casino in the world. Are you going to be for real right now or you're out of your mind? No, I'm always for real. You know, he's already a made man. He's not going to sell out his fans until he tells them to gamble online.

Yeah, but you know, I tell them, you know, gamble responsibly. Never gamble with money you're not afraid to lose. You know what I mean. Well, it's just, come on. Let's be for real. Do you gamble? Do you know how to gamble? I'm 18.

Oh. Oh, so you can to gamble? I'm 18. Oh, so you can't gamble? I've never gambled, no, unless it's online, but I didn't do it. Anyways, if I would have lost money, I didn't gamble because I'm 18. What do you think about crypto? Are you into crypto? No, are you? Yeah, I'm a little.

I think crypto is- You're a made man who's selling out everything. No, I'm a big believer in diversification. I think cryptocurrency is a hedge to the future for the dollar. So that could be your selling point to the people of Vegas. You say, hey, we're going to lower taxes because what we're going to do is have you guys gamble your money online. And then you'll use my referral code, and then you'll do it in crypto,

my new coin. There we go. I like that. But I but I'm not gonna do the new coin that's a good one but you'll have them use like code Colby or whatever that is yeah code Colby 17 at BC game and you get a deposit bonus a hundred percent deposit do you think you'll get more than four votes I think so just barely more maybe five maybe five maybe five like an artistic guy who likes fighting? Yeah, but I'm really going to have to go on the campaign trail to get that done. I mean I think you could be a good politician, but I think that's not going to help. That's not going to help?

How much are they paying you? Maybe they could, the pros could outweigh the cons if they're paying you enough to pay for advertisements without it. That's true, wow, I didn't think about that. How much are they giving you? Not enough, but they do do well for me. See, I'm always ahead with the money stuff. You know why?

Why? Not anymore, but it's not like I can get it out of my DNA. The money, man. I like that. No, no, the hat. Oh, okay. The hat. I forgot the gold.

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Oh yeah. He drinking all that Coke, doing all that ecstasy, all the, all the drugs he's done. And especially the alcohol, it just, it catches up to you in time. Yeah. But having a bottle here or there of it can be that bad. What is it? 140 calories per thing per can? I don't know.

That's a good question. I don't, I don't really drink. So do you drink? I can drink Coke every's a good question I don't really drink so do you drink? I drink coke every now and then. Coke? Okay. But not often I just I don't think it's I don't think it's the healthiest thing but I don't why would that make him lose against Aspenol? Yeah just because you know he just doesn't have a disciplined lifestyle his lifestyle choices are really bad and I just he's afraid of Tom if he if if he wanted to fight Tom he would have fought him already but

he's afraid that guy he's probably drinking all the time and gambling for sure for sure but maybe not gambling oh yeah you realize you've remembered you are a gambling sponsor you can't say that no I can say whatever I want you know my gambling sponsor you gamble on it freely of course I gamble on it I gamble all the time I play the the slots I hit $150,000 last night on Wukong. Amazing slot on the BC game online casino. How do you not laugh at this? I was. Well, you know what? You hit $150,000 on the Wukong. What does that mean? It means that I'm $150,000 richer as of yesterday and I can use that money. Oh, it's a one dollar ball No, it's not it's not like Plinko. It's like

You bet like a hundred dollars a real and I understand yeah, and it hit a bonus. So is money Now are they gonna? How does that actually work though are they gonna give you the money or like so they pay out in crypto? So that's what I was asking. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah they can pay you in aetherium or USDT or Bitcoin whatever you want you know what actually I'll take back what I said because despite my I also I'm a big Trump guy okay I think you could be successful as a politician even with the crypto stuff look what he did I appreciate that yeah he's done amazing things for the crypto community no no no

that's not what I was saying I do really like him a lot, but I mean he was doing sort of like how you're doing gambling You know what I mean? You guys have yeah, you're right. He does have some great casinos, you know the Taj Mahal in New Jersey But not a lot of commonalities me and Trump. Yeah, you like coke. He loves diet coke He drinks about 10 12 diet cokes a day that might get on the border of unhealthy like that could but you know what? He seems pretty healthy for how old he is So who knows yeah, he's 79 the guy's the craziest work ethic He sleeps like two three hours a night, and he's constantly traveling just insane schedule That guy's the hardest-working guy alive Donald Trump

It's possible that he's just been doing stuff like that for so long where it's just part of his day if he was to change It would have actually negatively benefit him. I Never thought about it like that. It's well said. Would you support Donald Trump if he ran for a third term? Absolutely. How could you not? The things he's done in the first two terms is unprecedented.

He's fixing the mess that Biden and Obama put out there. Oh yeah, Biden. He's a piece of crap. He's a crap. He sold out the country, all the taxpayers, you know, he took all our money and embezzled it and you know, just put our country in a hole and they want, you know, the war to go on because that's where they make their money, the military industrial comp.

I heard a theory that he was actually the one who started the war in Ukraine. Yeah, I've heard that same theory as well. Where'd you hear that? I think somewhere on one of the fake news sites. Why wouldn't that be something encouraged by like, I don't understand, one of the fake news sites? Why would like CNN promote that? Wouldn't that mean more of like Alex Bones Jones? Who's Alex Bones Jones? Yeah, the Infowars. Infowars? Oh, Alex Jones. Oh, Bones. Yeah, I info wars in fours. Oh Alex Jones. Oh both Yeah, I mean

Alex he's a smart guy. He said some great take I was on in fours I'm a big fan a couple years back now back when I was 12 12. Yeah, damn, bro That's impressive 12 years old be speaking to you know, smart, you know intellectual guy like that No, I wasn't talking to him. I was talking to a different host on the show. Oh. But it was under the same network. He was like the second, second guy over there. OK, we should get you on with Alex. I would love to. I've been trying to reach out to him to do this show,

but I haven't heard back, unfortunately, yet. OK. Alex, man, hit up my boy, my guy, Matan. He's got great insight. And I'm sure he can open your mind to some things you never thought before. Yes. And going back to the Trump question, got great insight and I'm sure he can open your mind to some things you never thought before. Yes, and going back to the Trump question, what if he just canceled the election and gave himself an unlimited term like a boss?

Yeah, I think he should do that. Look at what they did against him. They weaponized the DOJ. And you know what they say, two wrongs make a right. That's right. Well said. Two wrongs do make a right. That's right. Well said. Two wrongs do make a right. Would you consider getting in the ring and boxing Daniel Johnson?

Who's Daniel Johnson? I don't know. Then definitely I would. I would box any man alive. Well why him? Maybe he's way bigger than you. He's like way out of your weight class. You know it's not the size of the dog in the fight.

It's the size of the fight in the dog. I don't think so I don't think a chihuahua is gonna beat up like a Rottweiler or like a Belgian Malinois. I don't know did I train some chihuahuas to be like dangerous? I mean if you want we can do we can test it out you can bring in your best trained chihuahua and I'll just get a random Belgian Malinois and we'll see who wins if that's what you want to do. Oh so you want you want to do the Michael Vick? I think what he did was pretty cool actually. I mean, that why people are allowed to hurt each other but not dogs for sport.

I mean, don't we value human life over dogs anyways? I think the thing is, you know, they're voiceless and they can't really... No, they're not. They're talking all the time. You talk to dogs? No, but they're making noise. Are you a dog whisperer? No, I had him on the show, but he. You talk to dogs? No, but they're making noise. Are you a dog whisperer? No, I had him on the show, but he couldn't talk to dogs either.

Oh, really? You had Michael Vick on the show? No, the dog whisperer. Michael Vick, I reached out to him too, but I don't think I'm going to ever get a response. Ah, yeah, he's... I'd bring in a bunch of dogs. Really? I like that.

What kind of dogs? Well, I would bring in like a Chihuahua and a Rottweiler and see who wins and ask, and I would see if he gets like taped to the fight like he's on drugs or something. Yeah, I like that. Do you think you could beat Bruce Lee in a fight? Bruce Lee is, you know, the martial arts goat. So, you know, I believe in myself against any man alive, anybody that has a pulse and a beat. Besides Bruce Lee? Yeah, Bruce is the GOAT though. He's an amazing martial artist. He taught and led the way for all of us fighters today. The way he's disciplined and his work ethic back in the

day. We're all inspired by Bruce Lee's techniques and more important, his quotes. His quotes live down in infamy. They're just a lot of... Ching chong, ching chong. Something like that well what were you talking about um I think the one that I love to identify is like he always said I don't fear the man that knows a thousand kicks I fear the man that knows one kick and he practices it a thousand times yeah but he didn't speak English he did I thought he did I thought he was living in California no

he did yeah wasn't that the other guy, Jackie Chan? I get confused between those two guys. Why do you get confused between them? I think, I don't know. You know what I mean. Come on. Oh, okay. I don't know what you mean. No. Can you explain? You know, they um... They just look similar by chance. What a coincidence.

Oh, they look similar by chance. I could never guess the reason why. I can't either, that's interesting. Maybe they're both good at karate or something? How was it like fighting Donkey Kong? It was incredible. And by the way, that's not racist, it's a donkey. Before anybody calls me a racist, it's not actually.

Yeah, it's good. I love Smash Brothers, so I always like to fight against- Oh, I'm asking about your UFC career. Oh, my UFC career? Oh, okay. Yeah, I fought a lot of Donkey Kongs. Who do you think I'm referring to? I don't know, who? You fought him twice, it was- I don't want to say his name.

Usman? Okay. What about him? Yeah, I'm just asking how was the experience fighting? Oh, and it's not racist because I said Donkey Kong. Oh, okay, since you said Donkey Kong, it's not racist. Yeah, because he's a donkey. Oh, okay. Yeah, my experience, it was good. You know, it was fun fights with him.

You know, I saw some fan yesterday in Vegas, they're saying, hey, that first Usman fight is going to go down in history. It's going to be in the Hall of Fame. So, you know, very humbled to have shared saying hey that first Usman fight is gonna go down in history it's gonna be in the Hall of Fame so you know very humbled to have shared the Octagon with Usman. Do you think they should do a trip like a third fight? I think they should I think they should do the trilogy you know that fight makes sense we're so evenly matched it's always an exciting fight every time me and him stepping the Octagon against each other. How much does the UFC pay you per fight because I've heard some people suggest they don't

pay well and stuff like that. So coming from you, how is it? Oh, it's amazing. They pay so well. In the UFC, you get to eat what you kill. So if you become a star and you rise up to the top of the division, then you're going to get paid. But if you're a nobody and you're just coming in entry level fighter and you're not making

the company any money, then why would they pay you good money? Why don't they just tell them they're not going to pay them? I mean the guys would still take the opportunity. Yeah, they kind of do. They say, hey, become a self promoter and kill what you eat. I guess. I feel like they would get sued or somebody would have an issue with that legally, but I think that's what they should try.

I think if anything they're paying a lot of those guys at the bottom way more than they're bringing in. You're right. They might actually be hurting themselves if they got like two dogs to fight each other way more people are going to pay for that. That's true. I mean they got their power slap league now so people are slapping each other. Yeah but that's like I don't know I don't know I'm not a big fan of that one too much. Oh no? I don't think because he doesn't there's no skill involved a lot of the time. Once you get down the technique but two dogs it's like that but way worse because it's beyond skill or technique. Ah okay. I was going to invite you to the power slap next week it's on Friday. To the power slap? I'll take the opportunity. A lot of

big influencers are going to be out there. I think it's a good spectacle. I think you'll enjoy it. It's pretty fun. And is there any chance that I could pitch Dan on my unified championship thing? Will he be there? He'll be there. Yeah, he'll be sitting there. So I think we could cross paths with him and you could give him that pitch. I think it's a great, wonderful idea. Yes. Do you think hip hop music is turning the younger generation into thugs? Yeah, I think the way the hip hop music is going, yeah, it's just all they talk about is sex, drugs and violence. What do they call it? Raping? Something like that. Yeah. It's it's no I saw

it all over the news I think people need to find God yeah I agree who is the best up-and-coming fighter long neck or neck neck um I would say neck neck he's a strong guy he's coming up he's I don't know long next a tough guy though too definitely can't long neck have you ever met him haven't, I've only seen videos of him. Have you? I'm gonna meet him, he's the next interview in like five minutes. Really?

So we have to end it here, you know. Okay. Cause he's gonna... Just ignore him, he's fixing the mic and stuff. Okay. Now I'm not really a super tough guy, I think I could beat up Long Neck, but I mean, I feel like you're a more experienced guy.

Do you think by chance you could try outside and fight him? Yeah, I think I could try. I'll pay you for it. He's not gonna sign an NDA. No, no, he's not gonna agree. Oh, he's not gonna agree? No. So I just gotta fuck, shit.

Why would signing an NDA help? Because if I leave him unconscious and he hits his head on the concrete, I don't wanna be held liable. Yeah, but signing an NDA would just mean he's not allowed to talk about it. True, you're right. I want him to sign an agreement that says, hey, whatever happens, I'm taking full responsibility.

But wouldn't... they could make the argument that since he has Down syndrome, that he wasn't fully conscious, like he would need a guardian with him. Does he have Down syndrome? No, unfortunately, yes. Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. I mean take one look at him and you'll tell. Okay, he seems like a good guy though. You'd be surprised. He's one of those evil Downers. I'm sorry. That's terrible. You don't even want the evil Downers. Because it's like you can't even criticize their actions. Yeah, no, why not? Because then it's like, oh I'm an asshole for picking on them. Because it's like you can't even criticize their actions. Yeah, no why not? Because then it's like oh I'm an asshole for picking on them

and it's like the guy just walked in my house and like started shitting on the floor it's like what is he Indian? I would have expected him to know better be taught better. Which, was there a story where like an Indian shot on the floor before? I've seen way too many videos of it on Twitter. Oh okay. Just video after video Do you think people will ever start calling X even it's just always gonna be called Twitter

I've always wanted I was calling it X until Elon tweeted that thing about Trump and Epstein and now I look now I'm just trying to fuck with him a little bit. I like that smart. You don't like Elon anymore. No, I still like Elon He's a great guy. I think he's a he's a smart innovator and we need him on our side. I might be a little late for that. No, I think he's apologized and he's came out and said what he said was wrong. He had one bad night, no one's perfect. Trump's accepted his apology, so we need them together. They're like the Avengers.

They're the power team. Well, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate like the Avengers. They're the power team. Well, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it Thank you. I appreciate you brother. Always a pleasure