The Matan Show - Matan Confronts TJR For Scamming His Fans

Episode Date: November 30, 2025

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And for today's co-host, we have my manager, Vara, flooring. Please welcome in ViroFlooring. In case anybody doesn't know you, please introduce yourself and all that one. My name is Tyler. Please pull the mic close to you, to your mouth, and then introduce yourself, not just your name. My name is Tyler. I'm 23 years old. I live in Puerto Rico, and I have a dog named Boogie.

Like my friend here. What's his name? He's my buddy. My buddy. Okay, I guess that's like some of your personal stuff. Tell people what you do professionally. why some people might already know you online and stuff like that yeah i do day trading and i just post on social media about making money and and you make a majority of your money day trading

yeah make a lot of money day trading majority of the money day trading um i mean i make a good amount of money day trading is that where a majority of your money comes from i have a whole bunch of other businesses as well but like let's say that one of them not like it makes a majority in the sense that it makes over half but a majority in the sense that it makes more than any of your other sources oh yeah i mean i don't think so lying when you're flying emirates business class relaxing in an exclusive airport lounge you'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over fly emirates fly better uh okay to each their own but yeah no i'm just kidding around but really i'm i have a difference of opinion but so how much money do you make from day

trading depends on the month on average this month i'm up 473 000 is that more than usual or less um it depends last month i lost money you lost money last month last month last month Yeah. How much, how about the month before that? The month before that, I made over 500,000. Okay. So an average typically is like 300,000. Yeah, right around there.

Where was your lad when I was on the emails trying to stop the press fans from killing themselves? I'm not sure I get that reference. That's a question. Where was my lad on the email when you were going to kill yourself? That's not even remotely close to what I said. Where was y'all out when I was on the emails trying to stop the press fans from killing themselves? Oh, okay. Where was my lad at?

Where was y'all at when I was on the emails? Oh, it's a Jake Paul. No, it's a question. There's a Jake Paul reference. I actually just heard this on TikTok. This is a good, good question, actually. Where were they at? No, where?

Where were y'all at? You, when I was doing that, this is not a Jake Paul reference. He's the boxer, like the YouTuber boxer. Where was I at? Dude. Where was y'all at when my body hair was walking, taking some of his first steps, and you didn't even give a shit? Where was viral flooring at?

He'll answer that for himself. I'm directing the question at you. Where were you at, man? counting his money go ahead where were you at could you give me a date and a time

I do this frequently I respond to emails from depressed fans trying to kill themselves okay so it's a day to day thing yeah okay so then it would vary day to day depending on where I'm at when you're answering those emails I was doing this yesterday okay yeah one example

Yeah, yesterday. I was with my family eating Thanksgiving. Yeah. I'm sure those people aren't very thankful for you not giving a shit about them and I saved their life. Move on. How much money do you make purely trading in comparison to the course that you sell? I mean, we just talked about that. In comparison to the course? I mean, the course varies as well. but, I mean, the course I make six figures a month as well.

That's a better, that's more honest than I was expecting. Why would I lie about that? I thought you were going to say like, I have 30 people in my meetings. Um, well, I actually do, so I actually do have right around like 50 people. Okay. In my meetings. Um, but that's not everybody that's signed up like most people for who knows what reason, like they either just like miss it or, There's just like different people coming in and out and then they also churn.

So you'll join and then you're in there for a couple months and then you're done. Now, I don't know how much question, how much this question makes sense because I'm not a day trader. So correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be in your best interest? Let's say you made $100,000 from trading. That would sort of mean that somebody or a multitude of people lost a total of $100,000 trading. Wouldn't it then be in your best interest to promote bad investments to, your fans so you could take their money. Why would I want to promote bad investments?

Because then you could take their money? How so? Again, I don't know the exact how to explain this. Snap up Ancestry DNA's lowest price ever in our incredible cyber sale. With 50% off ancestry DNA kits, it's the perfect time to help a loved one unwrap the past. And with our latest update, they'll discover their family origin. like never before with even more precise regions and new and exclusive features their best gift our lowest price 50% off ancestry DNA only until December 2nd visit ancestry.ca for more details terms apply in a technical way but let's say you bet on something going up you're telling your fans the other way and then you make the correct bet even though you recommended the wrong one uh that would be pretty difficult to do on the stuff that I trade. I trade like U.S. indexes. So like the S&P 500 and Nasdaq.

So no shit coins ever, nothing like that. Um, I've done that before. But like I, that's not something that I'm like, hey, go and go and buy this. But then I'm pressing sell while they're buying. Yeah, but wouldn't that be a good idea? I mean, you don't have to say that's illegal. Well, it depends how you do it If you say go and buy this Then yeah But if you say Yeah, I think I'm gonna make a lot of money on this

And you're perceiving like you're gonna bet on it You know, you don't have to say anything I mean you live in Puerto Rico Puerto Rico is a US territory Yeah, well I'm sure you live there for the taxes But I'm sure it's also like you get away With some like stuff like that It's easier

No, I get audited every year It's way stricter Oh really? Yeah, yeah Because they dude You have to be like If you're a U.S. citizen, I mean, they want to collect as much taxes as possible. So, yeah, if your business is doing...

So then why you live in Puerto Rico? For the lower taxes. Yeah, yeah, for the lower taxes. Right. So I don't mind, like, doing the audits every single year because it's worth... Why don't you find a legal way of promoting shit to your fans? Because I want them to succeed. Yeah, but you could succeed even more if they fell in a case like this.

I don't... I don't think so, man. I think if you find a way to make somebody successful, they'll be able to tell five or ten of their friends, hey, this dude is helping me crush it in life, and then that's even more business for me, you know? Oh, oh, oh! Are you okay?

Oh, the pain is horrible. Don't take Tylenol. You read what they're doing with that? what happened he's gonna make you like retarded i heard autism right or just just what's the difference i think retardation is like a it's like the hard r version of it but also in like a more direct sense like when people are explaining why they call somebody the hard are they're like because he acts you know what i mean there's like kind of a difference between it what's the difference between autistic and down syndrome because that's i think the two yeah i mean somebody can be autistic and

There can be like, the way I like to describe it, and some people say it's offensive. It's like somebody with autism is typically just somebody who is completely willing to kill small animals and like rip them apart and eat them. Oh, like from, uh, of, wait, is that a mice of men, Lenny, the big guy? I don't know. Is he the black guy? In the thing, doesn't he like the animals? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong movie. I think that's a, well, it's a, it's a book. I don't know. Well, yeah, it's the big autistic dude and he loves the fluffy bunnies. Every time he grabs the bunnies, he kills them, and then he ends up killing a girl because he loves her hair. No, no, well, that guy might be autistic, but he's also nice.

Like, you see what I'm saying? An autistic person would want to, like, rip them apart and be like, hey, look, imagine if I did this to all the people at my school, I would be a hero. And then a retarded person would be like, like, they wouldn't really be able to communicate that to you. They would are far beyond the point of ever even being able to communicate that to themselves in their own head. What do you think their, like, their inner brain dialogue is? My little friend is walking. Flip. Hey.

Something like that, probably, actually. Probably not much dialogue going on. What does T.J.R. stand for, spinach pizza frog? It's my initials. Oh, so I was wrong. Yeah. TGR, so you said your name is what? Tyler?

Yes. and then what is R Riches What is J Jordan Oh so it's just your First Middle and last name Yep

Just my initials What if people get confused With something like spinach pizza frog Because TjR kind of Has those same initials as that as well You're right I should probably Have like a pinned video or something

Breaking it down huh Or you could just go buy that other thing You'll probably make more money Spinach pizza frog. Yeah, it's like kind of sounds funny and like cool like an animal from like a kid's show. SPF? Or just spinach pizza frog? Yeah, no need to simplify it.

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It's those four Indian... Yeah, four Indian kids who slap each other on the back of the head. And usually, Moy's is kind of beating the shit or getting people to beat the shit out of Sammy. Oh, it sounds like Moy's a better fighter. That's my opinion, but I could be biased. Because Sammy seems prideful Moise is smart He gets the other player to hit him

Right But Sammy knows that it's Moise directing it But he needs to guess who's hitting him Out of pride he says Moise So he keeps getting hit in the head Right And then like they start beating the shit out of each other sometimes

So who's the more intelligent player Moise for sure Okay Is that even a real thing What I'm talking about I'm actually not sure But I was just going with the flow okay

you should that's not correct you should only talk about things that you know about stuff like that yeah well I mean

you just informed me on it so I you said you're going with the flow with what you were given me just trying to just make an educated guess do you think

instead of English class they should have a trading class where you teach students how to lose all their money in four days in four days maybe even quicker sometimes

No, I think no. I don't think that there needs to be a trading class in school. I think that that's just like, you know, something that isn't like required. I think English is a little bit higher priority than trading. Why is that? It's our language. We use it to communicate. What if you live in like Portugal? What do they speak over there? Portuguese. Yep. Don't they speak that? in Brazil too. Yep. Where else did they speak that? Go ahead. What are you doing? Why are you looking your head? Ignore him. He's gaming. Right, right. Um, sorry, okay, so people in Portugal should they learn English or trading. Oh, dude, they should learn English. They would be able to make probably more money. Dude. Your little buddy.

Should I be concerned that there is mold growing out of my grandma's head? How often do you bathe her? I don't bathe her. That would be weird and gross. Take her outside and just hose her down. That's demeaning. Power wash Hire the power wash

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Get your first year for 250 a month Learn more at PCExpress.C.c.c. I don't know. She doesn't remember anything anymore. And every time I try to talk to her, she keeps yelling Sam. You should try and get her in one of those retirement homes. Yeah, but old people usually always, they don't like going to those places. Yeah, talk about a scam.

The retirement homes. Are you crazy? Those are like thousands of dollars per month. And you put the old folks in a shack. They hate it there. Yeah, I mean, at that point, you could just kill them and save a bunch of money. Yeah. I mean, I think that, I mean, don't quote me on this, but I think most old people, when they know that they're pretty much smoked, they can't remember anything.

They probably, dude, they wake up in their morning. They're like, where the fuck am I? Right. Imagine if they woke up in the morning and they're just in heaven. They're like, holy shit, this is way better. Yeah, well, I don't know if that's, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if all of them are going to heaven, but if they're not even remembering anything the next day

and they're kind of lost feeling, why don't we take their skin? We can create a jacket or something so they can be less cold. So that they can be less cold. Yeah, of course. Take their skin. Yeah, because they wouldn't be able to do that by themselves.

So take their skin and make a jacket for them. out of their skin. Oh, the pain is horrible in my stomach. Oh. Finish what you're saying? Yeah, I was asking you a question. So we're skinning the old people and then making them jackets out of their own skin? Of course, then they're not going to be cold anymore during the winter.

And it's two birds once. by skinning the old people it kills them and then they get a jacket so they'll no longer be why would you kill them well that was your first proposition that was we were having a different discussion we were talking about like terrorism and stuff right are you a better i don't even what are you better at making money than gary vainer chuck i think he's had he's had more time in the game per capita per i don't even know i just saw this dude he's obsessed with 13 year old you see what yeah just i just saw an instagram real on this i don't know if that's to be believed though no he said he's dude ask him he says that he studies 13 year olds that sounds very strange

no he studies them because he thinks that they are going to help him make more money so he's doing more work than i am i'm not studying 13 year olds yeah i i actually especially Especially for somebody like you, that's probably the right mindset. To study 13 year olds. I mean, if you're trying to convince somebody to buy a course online, you're going to have way more success with a 13 year old. Well, they have no money to buy anything. How much is your course? It's expensive.

How much? A couple thousand. Oh, wow. So it's actually better for him probably. I don't know what he sells. I'm sure he probably sells like alpha brain. He probably sells stuff that's like much lower level because he's more mainstream. stream. Yeah, he does like those garage sales and shit. So he's trying to figure out what all the 13 year olds are into nowadays. I don't think so. I think he just knows that 13 year olds are like the optimal people to sell things to. An 8 year old probably doesn't have any like any money. Right. A 13 year old probably has some money from their bar mitzvav, they're Jewish or maybe they have some money saved up from their birthdays. Yeah, my 8 year old cousin wish for a jar of peanut butter for Christmas last year. So.

If that gives you... Dead serious? Did he really? Dead serious. From... That's what he asked for you? From you? From Santa. I think your cousin might be retarded.

If you wanted an example from earlier. That would be a grilled cheese. I mean, this is... I think... Retards, bro. Peanut butter gets caught in their throat, dude. No, they actually... That would cause them to choke and die.

Retarded people are in love with peanut butter. And they have like five foods they like, And that's one of them. And then the what? Grilled cheese. Yeah, grilled cheese and like hot dogs and chicken, tenders. You know who else probably likes some chicken tenders? Nope.

You're looking at my manager via flooring, but he's not black. No, I wasn't. He insinuated he was black before the episode, but he's not. I never said anything about it. He's been on many of my episodes, and he's never been black. Yeah. I see what you're seeing right now also, but. but I think I'm just having a vision issue

because this is not what I usually see. What do you usually see? He's usually a little shorter, little chubby or in not black. Probably the lighting is different to this episode. Yeah. Oh, that's right. That's right.

It's usually Mike. No, it's usually viral flooring nowadays. It switches between him and Mike. Okay. Does the guy that's gaming, does he have a name? This is Mike, Mike. Mike, Mike. In general, with everything, how much do you make per year?

You are such a pocket watcher. Yeah. Dude, I mean, every year it's... This last year, the last 12 months. last 12 months um couple million that could be very different

that could be two million nine million could be so where does it land why don't you tell people I mean you're wouldn't it be better for them to know they can have something to base it off of um I

I mean yeah it's a couple it's a couple million isn't it not Smart to reveal how much you're making on an annual basis. I think that's like the common consensus. Yeah, but I feel like your position is a little bit different, right? I talk I talk about how much like money I make from trading because that's like what I do on the internet, but like I have businesses that I don't talk about at all on the internet not having to do with like day trading itself or the courses like stuff. Like what? Um, like I have, uh, legit. six company um and i do my own personal investing that like i don't talk about at all so so outside of doing investing uh you do some other investing that you don't talk about yes outside of outside of the investing that i do talk about yeah outside of the invest invest well the day trading that i about I do investing that I don't talk about. Yeah, I'm sure that was assumed.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Why is your friend making so much noise over there? I'm pretty sure that's Mike, dude. I saw Mike. I saw Mike rattling that shit. Oh, that was your body. What's his name? You gotta get your vision checked because viral flooring is black and Mike is rattling. I'm seeing that too right now. It's just, it must be my fault. Look, see, he came through with scissors and now he's got a fork.

How the fuck did he get a fork? He's being careful. He's basically guarding the place. You know what's crazy? Another thing that I saw, your hand is pretty much a fork. It's like a fork. Isn't that crazy? Your hand is a fork with skin on it.

I'm just checking if I'm awake right now or I'm dreaming. Okay, I'm awake. Did you know that you can check that? if you're awake or dreaming how so if you try to poke your hand through your finger through your hand and it goes through you're probably dreaming unless you just got shot

out yeah I mean um how was it like growing up poor having to live in a house worth only eight million dollars um the first house that I grew up in was small but um

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I couldn't tell you. I would assume so with how much, like, land and property value has gone up in the area since then. Where was this house at? in the Bay Area like literally bro like Los Altos is just like that is like the spot where all In Mexico No it's in California But why did you say it was called

Los Altos That doesn't sound like a California Maybe like 200 years ago when it was part of Mexico Where are we What city are we in right now? West Hollywood Okay what about Like, the actual, actual city?

Hollywood? Los Angeles. No, that sounds Mexican. Right. How do you feel about Mexicans? We'll move on. Okay. Hey, guys, start for the interruption.

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Terms and conditions apply, thank you. Did Epstein really do anything wrong if he owned the island and made the laws there? Was it his, was it his island? Like, yeah, it was his island, but it was that like a part of any sort of territory? It's just like free Rome. That's not fair. Like a free Rome. He should make the laws there.

I think. I think that's why they went there, right? No, well, probably not if he didn't make the laws there because of some stupid law. But he probably went there mostly because it was secluded, but, I mean, I don't know. Did he even do anything wrong anyways? I mean, for sure. I mean, what's wrong? Did he live on an island?

He wanted to be by himself. You live on an island. I do. Yeah, so how are you not worse than Epstein? That's a good question. I mean... You're basically Epstein, right? Okay.

Well, I don't have an infatuation with males, young males, or young females. Gary Vee, he might be a little bit closer. If he moves to Puerto Rico, best keep our eye out on that guy. I mean, I don't know why you're... This sounds like you're deflecting a little bit here. Yeah, that's super true. Yeah. Whatever.

Anyways, I mean, you shouldn't take it as an insult because I was just defending Epstein. I... You guys are both into finances, but nobody really knows how you got your money. Yeah. Well, I mean, bro, I documented, like, a lot of my journey. So did he, right? But we, I mean, he was like, how did he get that much money? the little kids probably

what by studying 13 year olds wow that it bro he was right he's on to something yo you shouldn't talk shit about him i know holy shit he was actually doing a favor by telling you that secret and you shitted on him for it no no longer i think uh yeah there's gonna be another course module coming pretty soon yeah yeah Did you ever have the urge to put your teacher into a machine that turns her into small pieces of meat that you feed to crows so you can finally have a friend? No, that, that, no, never. I, um, crows would always eat my lunch at school.

Crows used to give me pretty mad. that's not bro those are not real hundred dollar bills that's fake money yo are you questioning him I would never question viral flooring he's called the first um bazillion he's called the bazillion dollar man is what they call him

I can tell Yeah Why do you continue to say the N word Despite knowing you will offend thousands of white women I mean that's actually a good question Because I don't think Yeah White women are the ones that are getting offended

And you know those those are not the people that have the right to be offended yeah well yeah i don't know i just i don't really care it's not like i would stop saying the n-word because of white women or something will you say the n-word right now yeah n i thought he wasn't black i'm starting to second guess now i can't tell yo i don't know he's not black my manager virofoher flooring he's white he's like Italian or something I don't know my manager he might be he might be Italian with the Ferrari jacket black he's not black okay perfect so the only

people that were offended were the white women I don't think any of them are watching the show anyway but that was a weird reaction for a white guy I don't know now I'm getting weird it out right he might be a white woman no there's no way it's not possible hair's pretty long could be one of those transitioners Do you think Indian people eat cow shit in hopes of turning into a cow? They worship them, all that crazy stuff. I don't think that they do that. I'm pretty pissed off with Indians today.

I'm not going to lie. Just today or in general? Like recently. It varies. So I was on customer support for. ever today, shit was blowing me. But then I just, I had Indian food for dinner, so they made up for it. So I'm kind of at like, like, st-

That helped actually eating the food? Yeah, it was really. I thought it would have, like, no, it was really good. So it was like, customer support, and then Indian dinner were at just, like, equal level of, like, disliking now. Wait, I just realized what you said. You know that when you call customer support and it's in Indian, you're not speaking to real customer support, right?

What, it's AI? No, it's a scary. That's why it's an Indian. What did you think you were talking to? It's a good, it's a good freaking question. My friend Ashley truly just got scammed by a fake Indian pretending to be customer support. Yeah. I mean, do you think people in New York are scamming people on the phone with like customer support?

Maybe, but they're going to be in jail pretty quick. In India, it's like, frowned upon to not be doing it. Right. It's like, that's what they're trained to do. Well, because they don't have any... I'm not trying to talk shit about them. It's just like they don't have any money. So to get money from U.S. people, you can basically live in a castle.

Unfortunately, the materials to build the castle are still just as bad. So we'll probably collapse on you within a year and kill you. You're saying in India In India, yeah Yeah Taj Mahal's Stood its ground though Yeah

I guess they can create a building That lasts Have you seen the streets over there It's out of wood They have a little huts Which I think is cool It's like Minecraft over there Yeah it's like a

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I mean, you, you look up India on Google and I would, yeah, let's look it up. I think within the first 15 pictures, you, you, you make. Look up India and let's see what I find. Yeah, you might see it. There's at least going to be a tent and at least a bus with 10 plus people clutching on to the back of it. I've looked up India before on Google and let's just say Google might be racist because of the images that they put up there. This is what comes up by the way when you look up India. That's my manager, viral flooring.

You just looked up viral flooring manager. No, I looked up India No, it says viral flooring manager No, that's what he says But that's what comes up So yeah, what you said didn't come up Well, you were saying stereotypes Do you think Google would show racist pictures

Probably not racist pictures But stereotypical pictures That's pretty much what Google's built to do, no Show what most people think Do you think you could beat up a six-year-old If he had four arms, four lightsabers Was made out of metal in seven feet tall hell no why not uh dude four arms four savers

go ahead yeah i don't think i would be able to i think i would be able to i think i would I would lose that battle. What? I have a question for you. Yeah. What are, what are, what are you? you like off off camera very normal chilling with my body yeah you think I would have different off camera no so why would you ask such a thing just making sure you're on top of it okay is black Friday the one day of the year where

you're allowed to buy black people no I don't think so That doesn't make any sense. I know. It should be at least one day a year. Okay. It's like they're trying to tease us. Like, oh, not yet. Big discounts are on the way.

Yeah. People lining up at the door. Nobody wants it anymore. It's cheap now. Yeah. That was too. far. Yeah.

Anyways, go ahead. Let's forget I said that. I'll cut it out. Yeah. Yeah. People used to die

during Black Friday. Nowadays... I thought you were going to say they used to die during something else. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, they used to die during Black Friday.

That shit used to be like a war zone, dude. But, I mean, you didn't give this shit because even growing up you're on a bunch of money, so you didn't have to wait till Black Friday.

Is what you're saying. Uh, well, I mean... Nah, I wasn't just able to buy whatever I wanted. What about now? Um, no, there's still some things that I can't buy. Would you say it would be accurate to describe you as a used car salesman with no cars?

No. I mean, well, yeah, no. Why not? Why not? Because I'm not a used cars salesman and I have plenty of cars. Not literally you're a used car salesman. You seem to get defensive when I ask you about the financial stuff. I'm saying like, I'm completely fine talking about. I'm saying like more so you're telling everybody you're going to teach them how to make money.

But instead of the used car salesman lying and then giving you a shit car. Right. You're not even giving them anything. You're giving them like, I guess you're giving them kind of a used car sort of like advice, you know, you know what I mean. Oh, so there you go. So I am giving you're like a used car salesman that gives them a used cars. That gives them a used car. Yeah. Well, people don't usually think about used car salesmen in a positive way for whatever reason. Because nobody wants a used car. But it's clear that there's demand for. It's not good to criticize yourself.

Yeah, but I'm just, I'm saying that that's not the case for me. Oh, you're saying you're not a used car salesman with cars. You're saying you're a used car salesman with no cars. No. So what are you saying? You're a car salesman? I just think the comparison doesn't really, doesn't really align here. We could find another comparison that would work.

Um, one of those guys on the street who has. three cups and if you guess which dice it's in you get a hundred dollars is that better because that's like a one-stop shop you know yeah that's true actually because once the guy loses the money he's not coming back he realized what's going on with you it's like you can keep checking him in because it's like it's like it's It's more like a casino, honestly. They don't know whose fault it is that they lost. It's like playing blackjack.

Maybe I shouldn't hit. Nah, once they come through my course, they're not allowed to come back. What does that mean? I mean. The knowledge is already in grade. Yeah. Like once they come through, like they should have everything that they need. That's like the whole point of it.

Like the whole point is for them to come through. pay me and then boom I teach them everything that they need to know and then put them on the right path right um do you think the average person is in the double digits of a salary now who's done your course in the double digits yeah yeah for sure really yeah now we have to take in count not just the ones who are making money okay do you think the majority of the people that you have trained are making or losing money um it's honestly difficult to say because as sad as it is the people that are losing money most of the time they're not like super vocal about it or most of the time they'll just be like oh like I'm just like sort of

struggling right now and I just need to learn more. So like the if anything like I see most of the time. So you're like a used car salesman selling explosive cars to people with no money who are also unable to make their concerns hurt. Um, well, no, because there's still a lot of like successful people and the people that are struggling, like they'll still come to me and say like, hey, I need help with this and then we help them. Like financial help? No. No, you wouldn't financially help them. Well, the goal isn't to just... The goal is to take their money, not to give them any money.

Should they make money trading good for them? But that's not the concern here. Well, the goal is to help them learn how to make money. Because just get just, if I were, if I were to give you $100 right now and then just leave, forever like you're going to spend the hundred dollars and then boom what do you have now nothing whatever I bought with the hundred dollars exactly that's better that's not nothing you're right but what happens if I teach you how to no I'm just being semantical and by the way you know what I might come off as kind of aggressive I'm just a

little bit jealous I think I'm trying to be self-aware here because I always talk about scamming and it's kind of a passion of buying but I'm not really successful at it so to bring somebody on that could show you the ropes yeah i i i don't know i well i'm a fan of the idea of it and i i don't know i'm just getting like because i want to do i i don't know if you've done crypto scams i have no idea but it's like that's like something i want to do it's just i i don't know what the consequences of that could be and i'm a little bit scared and i mean our president did a crypto scam yeah but he's basically the best guy in the world so you have to give him a break first lady did a crypto scam but she she's giving an excuse because he gave her the past you know

what i mean he's never done anything wrong even with uh with his your your friend with him right because you're epstein that's right yeah so anything about that i thought ebcine didn't really like trump um yeah i don't know but about that what what do you mean i don't know reading the the emails it seemed like it was maybe it was a love hate relationship kind of like fuck you but i now i'm going to fuck you yeah it was a little weird it was yeah it's like the you know like the ex-girlfriend where you guys like fight and then hook up and then fight again and then hook back up i don't know i don't think I don't think Trump did anything wrong

But not because he didn't do anything that they're accusing him of But because I don't think he's capable of doing anything wrong I view him as a deity basically Not like a god I'm not religious I'm not like worshipping a human I know he's a human But he's like the gold standard He literally lives in a gold apartment everything is made out of gold

I thought does he not live in the White House Beforehand now he lives in the White House But that's even the most made of white even better and also the most prestigious place to live in the world you can't buy your way there unless you're trump or epstein probably yeah or any or any any any president really how'd they get there yeah basically yeah so i guess that doesn't yeah yeah i don't know you can probably ah oh my stomach oh damn Longneck pointing me.

It was long neck. What have to add in there? I have to film with long neck now. Okay. He's the next guest? Okay. Oh.