The Matan Show - Matan Debates James Fishback on OF & Iran War

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When West Jet first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion, inline skates were everywhere, and two out of three women rocked, the Rachel. While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to Westjetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have James Fishback.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Welcome in. Thanks for coming. Nice to meet you. For my co-host today, we have my manager, Vairforing. Welcome in Vair Floring. So if you can just pull the mic close to you and introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you and all that one. So I am running for governor of Florida.
Starting point is 00:00:51 The elections this year, 2026, Ron DeSantis has been the governor for two terms. He is term limited. He can't serve anymore. And so now there's going to be an election about who's going to succeed him. So what happens now to run? D'Santis, is he going to be allowed to stay here? Yeah, he's going to be allowed to stay. But you just said he already is here for long enough.
Starting point is 00:01:09 No, no, he's term limited, which means he can't be governor any longer, but he's allowed to live. So now he's getting out of jail. His term is limited? Yeah, he's getting out of prison, yeah. And were you a supporter of Ron Dissantis or no? I was. Yeah, yeah, I was. Okay, now you're facing, who is it?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Byron Donald's. And Byron Donald's or Byron? I don't know, which one is it actually? Is that like a play on Tyrone? Because I know, I've seen him. He's black. Is he's named Byron or Byron? It's Byron.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Is it really? I've never heard of Byron. It's whatever. It's Byron. Okay. I'll call him. I'll call him Byron. I really don't know much about him besides that he's black because you called him a slave.
Starting point is 00:01:44 But outside of that, what's his political stuff? Has he been in office before? Yeah. He's a member of Congress right now. Okay. And so I've seen the polls. He's definitely leading right now. Do you think those polls are accurate or no?
Starting point is 00:01:58 I think they're probably a bit of, they're accurate given that we just jumped into the race in the last couple of months. He's been running for a year now, but we've gone from 2% in the polls to 23%. So we're picking up steam very quickly. We're now in second place. What are the odds on those betting markets? That's 15% for us. I think that's 15. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I feel like that's pretty good. I feel like when I was seeing it not so long ago, is it like a half of a percentage? Okay. When I sell my business, I want the best tax and investment advice. I want to help my kids, and I want to give back to the community. Ooh. Then it's the vacation of a lifetime. I wonder if my head of office has a forever setter.
Starting point is 00:02:35 An IG Private Wealth Advisor creates the clarity you need with plans that harmonize your business, your family, and your dreams. Get financial advice that puts you at the center. Find your advisor at IG Private Wealth.com. Yeah. So it definitely went up from there. Now let me ask. Would you bet on me? Bet on you to win?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah. With actual money or like as a person? Like what I want to happen or if I think you're going to win? We're talking about betting market, so betting with money. Definitely not. No, I feel like it's unlikely. You know, something similar kind of happened with Zoran. I feel like you're kind of the concern.
Starting point is 00:03:09 But he won. Yeah, but it's like you're going to win the lottery twice in one year, not to necessarily say that you winning would be good or him winning was good or bad or whatever. But for that to happen, I feel like it's a bit unlikely. You know what I mean? Well, I disagree, but I think it would be huge for the left to get someone like Zoran, and I think the right to get our vision for the campaign, yeah. How would having a 24-hour GTA 6 marathon in the governor's mansion actually help anybody?
Starting point is 00:03:36 That just seems like the type of thing in out-of-touch politician would say to sound cool with young people. So I'm a big GTA guy, actually. I grew up playing GTA-Send-Andreas, GTA Vice City. I don't think it helps playing a game where you beat up... I don't think it helps playing a game where you beat up ho-h-h-h-h-h-hers and kill the police. Right, then why would you invite a bunch of kids to play at an official political house? Because it's fun. But the reason why is because I think it's an incentive.
Starting point is 00:03:58 It's like, hey, if you do really well on the test, if you do really, really well in the honor roll. If you get straight A's, you can come to the governor's mansion and play some GTA six. I want to be fun. I feel like that would kind of be a punishment, right? When that game comes out, everybody's been waiting for so long. Now you have to get good grades and now you have to play it in some political guy's house. You can't even just relax at home and play. No, you can play it at home. But you're a big fan of GTA. A big plan, yeah. You're a big flan? A big flan. A flan is a Colombian dessert. Okay, so what do you mean you're a big flan? I don't understand. You're clearly not a Colombian dessert.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh, I'm fluffy and I'm sweet. But did you mean to say that or you meant to say a big fan? I meant to say big fan. So why did you say flat? Because I'm sleep deprived. Okay. Now, so you, again, you said you're a big GTA5 fan as well or no? No, I liked, I like San Andreas and I liked Vice City alone.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Do you even know the character names? CJ. No, in GTA 5. I didn't play CJA 5. CGA 5? So you don't even know that, I mean, it's like, what is it, the second, third best selling game of all time? You don't even know the names of the characters of the sequel game coming out, but you're inviting them to play your house?
Starting point is 00:04:59 You don't understand, or you do understand how that could come off as a little bit grifty. It could come off a little grifty, but I'm a GTSN-Andrace guy, vice city guy. Okay. I prefer playing the black characters, it felt more authentic. Right. Yeah, I see what you're saying. There's a black character in GTA-5. Oh, is there?
Starting point is 00:05:17 It's not CJ, though, from GTS-N-And-Andres, is it? It's not C-J. Do you know his name in GTA-5 or no? No. Is it Byron? It's not. It's Franklin. You never heard of Franklin?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Franklin the Turtle I've heard of, but not Franklin. Franklin, Michael, and Trevor, those are the three main ones? I was too busy in college during when GTA 5 came outside. Okay. So maybe that's not really great idea. Well, I know. I think six is good because, remember, six takes place in Miami. Six is back in Vice City.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So I think there's something cool about the Florida governor for a game that's based in Florida. How many video games are based in Florida? Not that many. All of Dutty Modern Warfare, too, is not based in Florida. No, I don't think it was. Where was it based in like Iraq probably? I think Iraq. Or like Afghanistan, one of those.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I was only mentioning that because I haven't heard other politicians go down. that route. It's actually something I kind of notice with Zoron, but I feel like with him because he's a leftist, things are more confined. You know what I mean? He probably has more people either telling him what to say or influencing it where he wouldn't say something that out of touch. Maybe for the good or the bad of it, but I feel like anybody knows that kind of is like not something that's a real aspiration or a cool thing to play a video game at the governor's mansion. Well, one of the things I really enjoyed about GTS and Andreas was the open world aspect of it where you could literally,
Starting point is 00:06:31 I mean, you could obviously play the story of the game, which is cool, but you could just literally roam for hours. And I remember... That's why you didn't play
Starting point is 00:06:37 GTF5, because there was no open world aspect. Perhaps. But I like GTS and dress because like literally, I would just say with my middle school friends and we would just till three
Starting point is 00:06:46 or four o'clock in the morning, just roam and just go carjack people and beat hoax with the giant d'i-o and stuff. It was fun, actually. No, yeah. And so maybe that's actually a good idea because since GTA 6 takes place
Starting point is 00:06:58 in Florida. Florida, then you get to encourage that type of behavior in your own city that you're governing. Well, if it's Sophie Rain, maybe, but everyone else I think is probably off limits. That's that old f***er girl? Yes. What specific to her? What does she do? Well, she is the richest only fans girl. She's based in Florida. She's number one? She's number one. How do they do that metric? Is that like public? Well, it's what she says, which I probably believe her on that and that alone. I don't believe
Starting point is 00:07:22 anything else that she says about her body count or whatever, but she says she's made $100 million, so we're going to tax her. We're going to take $15 million. I'm not a big fan of all-fax. Have you ever been on it? No, I haven't. I'm actually a big criticizer of it. $100 million is a ton of money. That's like professional athlete level, right?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Correct. And you're going to tax them? They're not already being taxed? Well, they're being taxed normally, but I think we have to take it a step further. If you want to discourage and deter only fans, you have to tax it at such a high rate that nobody wants to do it anymore
Starting point is 00:07:51 and they go to something dignified, like open a store or become a doctor. Yeah, but you have to understand that these people, a lot of the time they're re-hitted, so you can expect them to become a doctor. Well, they can- That doesn't mean I'm encouraging them to go down the route of old f***. That means I'm just saying that the more realistic thing,
Starting point is 00:08:07 if you want to not sound like a politician, is just accept the fact that instead they'll become homeless, which is better, but that's the truth. Well, yes, some of them clearly are lost, but I think they're better off doing things. You know, we certainly had people beforehand who were not as smart, and they found something dignified to do that wasn't selling their body online. And what would be the first thing you would do if you're turning to a lobster?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Well, I'm allergic to lobster, so I would probably just die instantly because I would... Well, that's completely unrelated. I mean, I doubt there's any lobsters, you know. But if I turned into one, but if I was a look, but would I carry over my personality or my, my false? You would carry over your personality to an extent that a lobster's brain can acquire, which is probably so low that it's unquantifiable because there's no conscious thought inside of a lobster. Right. Did you understand what I said?
Starting point is 00:08:54 I did. Okay. I'm not one of the only one of the only fan of girls. Epic. Fee's bump on that epicone. I don't know. What would I do if I were a lobster? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You look like a lobster kind of, the whole red thing. I don't know. No idea? It was actually kind of a three question. That's why I organized or made that whole thing clear about the brain not working. You probably just have to eat something. You wouldn't even really have a choice about it. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Because you're so, I mean, you're a lobster. You're a lobster. I don't have really much agency. Yeah. He's been reported. that your campaign has raised over $950. Will you be using these funds to buy an Xbox? I don't think we could afford an Xbox at 950.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You could get an Xbox in a couple games, actually. What game should I get? Well, I mean, you seem like a big GTA guy. You could get GTA, maybe a couple months of game pass. Okay. More than a couple months. You could get a couple of years, actually. Well, I want to just say that the 950 is incorrect.
Starting point is 00:10:01 That's not an accurate reporting. It's not accurate. We just went to Erawan. We spent $30 on the Haley Bieber. so it's, you know, it's 920 now. Right, so that's why you were saying, actually, that you might not be able to afford an Xbox because, but isn't that kind of fraud?
Starting point is 00:10:14 You're not allowed to just buy drinks for random members of your team. How many do we get? No, it was actually a gift. Okay. From marijuana? From marijuana? No, no, from marijuana? No, no, from marijuana.
Starting point is 00:10:26 No, the last place we were at, they got them for us. There was some semblance of hospitality there. You didn't give us anything. There's just Gatorade bottles. dirty socks all over the studio. Yeah. So if not an Xbox, then what would it be? Because 950 is kind of a
Starting point is 00:10:41 limited range. 950. How would I spend 950? This is the only 950 I could have. I would probably, I would probably wrap a car for $950. Like if it's the only money we could spend, like wrap the car
Starting point is 00:10:57 and then just drive it around everywhere. Are you related to Duke Fisheron? No. No? Do you know who Duke Fisheron is? No. So how do you know you're not related? Never heard it before.
Starting point is 00:11:06 So I can't imagine. It's a similar name. Your last name is James Fisheron. Fishback. Fishback? Yes. Still similar. Despite my mistake.
Starting point is 00:11:16 How do you defeat him? At what point do you usually defeat Duke Fichron? Because that's kind of, he's not a, you know, the game is kind of linear. It's not linear, but it's linear in the sense where you have to defeat bosses in a main order, but he's kind of one of the side. I mean, it's kind of like Queen B where you don't have to beat him. What game is this? Terraria. You didn't know that?
Starting point is 00:11:37 No. I thought you were inside the culture and the gaming stuff. What game is this? Terraria. He's the fish monster that you summon after you collect the whatever worm is called from the mushroom biome. After defeating, I think the mechanical bosses, or after Plantaa maybe, it's one of those. Then it gets unlocked.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That worm starts appearing, and then you can summon him by fishing in the ocean. Maybe we'll play that game in the governor's mansion. Yeah. Dada would support because that would be cultural. That wouldn't just be getting on the hype train. Wouldn't old person with Alzheimer's be the best type of person to steal from since they wouldn't remember what happened? What are you doing my charger? I didn't give it to you. Who the hell are you anyway? Are you the one sending these messages to my head? I can't fly. I don't know if you can. Can you hear me? What are you doing later tonight?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Can I take it? What was that? You're not James Fishback. Can you introduce yourself? Did you turn James Fishback into that statue? you? I have no clue. Ow! Anyways, let's get back into the questions. Wouldn't old person with Alzheimer's be the best type of person to steal from since they wouldn't even remember what happened? Well, stealing is bad, but if you assume that it weren't... Not only do you not have to assume that stealing isn't bad in this scenario, not only does it...
Starting point is 00:14:18 Because the person with Alzheimer's doesn't remember the experience of getting stolen from, probably don't even remember what got stolen. So does it really, is it really a bad thing? Because I'm going to remember what I have. They're not going to remember what they lost. Well, it's definitely a bad thing because if you stole their, whatever their medicine and they couldn't take it the next day. I wasn't that, you don't have to give me hyperbole here. You're stealing their medicine. I'm talking about stealing their watches and their valuables. Well, but if they can't tell the time tomorrow, then that it sets their entire circadian rhythm. Okay. And let's say they tell the time right now. Do you think they're going to remember the time in 30 seconds? They have Alzheimer's.
Starting point is 00:14:51 They're just going to keep telling the time? Interesting. They might forget how to read a clock. Fair enough. It's a good argument. Interesting one. So maybe that should be legalized. We'll work on that in Florida.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And how do you think that would get passed? How does a law get passed like that? Well, it goes to the state house and the state senate and then the governor would sign it into law. And you think a law like that would be likely to get passed or no? I can't imagine. Why? Despite my argument? Despite your argument, I think that most people would say that most people would say,
Starting point is 00:15:22 that's stealing from people with Alzheimer's. Then I would like them to rebuttal what I just said. This episode is brought to you by FedEx. These days, the power move isn't having a big metallic credit card to drop on the check at a corporate lunch. The real power move is leveling up your business with FedEx intelligence and accessing one of the biggest data networks
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Starting point is 00:16:28 to live in the cool box. Well, that would solve the housing affordability crisis. I wouldn't really consider that a house. While you would still live in it, I wouldn't consider that a home. There's nobody else back here. Are you looking for somebody? Did that throw you off a little bit?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Just a tad. Nobody's going to come out of the ceiling. I don't have a clue. He's trying to communicate with you. And in what language? Probably some form of English, right? He put in exclamation or a question. question mark whatever it was let's move on could somebody argue they're actually not gay even if
Starting point is 00:17:21 they sleep with a man by entirely changing the definition of the word gay until it means something completely different to the point where they would have to be characterized by that new word sure but it still wouldn't change the fact that they're attracted to men it would change the fact that they're attracted to men if then you also did that to attracted oh it wouldn't change the fact that they had sex with men it could if you change what that means too Well, it wouldn't change the fact that it happened. That's correct, but what happened? Good question.
Starting point is 00:17:58 You may not be able to describe it. We know what happened, though. I'm asking you, is this an experience you've had? Sex with a man? No. Okay. But to me, s s s***es means not having intercourse with a man. Who did you just get a call from?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Who was that? Mike Pence. Okay, so let's keep it down. That's probably an important call, okay? Okay. Hey, guys, Sarf with interruption. I have to let you know that today's episode. sponsored by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform designed to help you stand
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Starting point is 00:19:46 They were born here, but the parents were not legally allowed to be here, so they can't be American. So what happens to the kid in that case? They would have to go back to Nigeria. So despite the kid being born here, they should be sent back to Nigeria? Well, the parents weren't legally here, so yeah. Let's say they were on vacation. Well, I said vacation. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Well, I mean, yeah, technically, well, I should, when I say legal, I what I mean is a permanent legal status. That is to say they are a green card. They're a naturalized citizen or they're a U.S. born citizen because that's not the case. You wouldn't become a citizen. Now, I heard, I don't know if it's true or it got passed, but I heard Trump got rid of birthright citizenship. He's trying to. It's going forward to the Supreme Court right now. I support that and you're on board with that as well.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah, I'm on board with getting rid of birthright citizenship. And let me ask you. What do you think about Trump? Because he's kind of become controversial even with conservatives. And you're kind of of the new breed of conservatives where I feel like it's a little bit less controlled. You say more so what you want. And that type of conservative doesn't really like Trump. So what's your take on it?
Starting point is 00:20:59 My take is I really like the Trump of 2016. Okay. Against foreign wars, against increasing the national debt. So nothing like the current Trump. So not a lot like what we've seen in the last couple of months now. Did you vote for him? I did. You did vote for him.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah. Okay. And so would you vote for him again? Not if it's going to look like the last couple of months now. And let me ask you this. Who would you vote for in an actual election? Gavin Newsom or JD Vance? It would have to depend on what the policies are.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I mean, if they're both going to be pro-Israel and pro sending more of our money over to foreign countries. It seems like that's the position of both of them, unfortunately. So then I'm not interested in voting. You would just stay out of it. I would probably abstain in that election. Okay, but let's say you had to vote. I feel like that's.
Starting point is 00:21:54 If I had to vote. But that's a good answer, it's still a cop-out because I'm asking you as a political person, not as like what I would do. I would bite my tongue and vote for J.D. Vance. Okay. What does he have over Nussum in that for you? Probably the pro-life position, not the J.D. Vance is the most pro-life guy. But he's definitely more. He's not pro-life?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Well, he's not the most pro-life, but he's definitely more pro-life than Gavin Newsom's. Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like, I don't know if Gavin Newsom, does he even have any conservative positions? Probably not. No, not really. But what I care about most, my big issue is... He's technically letting homeless people eat each other, which is pretty cool and funny and epic. At Desjardin, our business is helping yours.
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Starting point is 00:23:04 It's not pro-life. Well, not for the life of the person being eaten, I suppose for the life of the person who is eating because they have food now. Yeah, but I would actually make that in abortion similar argument and say that that's not a life to me. The homeless? A homeless who's vulnerable to being eaten or a homeless. that's eating other homeless, neither of those are lives to me. So that wouldn't be murdered you? No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Interesting. That's nature. Interesting. By one of those, me? Is that you? I don't know. You recently lost a lawsuit and decided you didn't have to pay your lawyer. How much are you going to have to pay your next lawyer to defend you against him?
Starting point is 00:23:46 And then the next one when you lose again. We're just going to keep playing the game where we get one to, two, Look at the next one Get one, you lose you and you don't pay him Well listen, but let me ask you If we went to if we went to freaking If we went to five guys And you ordered a double cheeseburger
Starting point is 00:24:02 And they gave you just two buns Without any cheese or any burger Would you pay them? Five guys is not a lawyer They have lawyers Five guys is not a lawyer That thing in itself The cooks are not lawyer
Starting point is 00:24:14 That's the point. It's called an analogy. I know, but this analogy doesn't work What analogy would work then? Comparing a lawyer to a lawyer And in that case it doesn't make any sense Now listen, I actually like that move. I respect it because it's so unbelievable and crazy that it's like, how did I not think of that? But I read that in the state of Florida, because I don't know maybe if your argument turns into something where you said I signed with the guy that he only gets paid if he wins.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You can't even do that in Florida. So you're just outright not paying him. It's not even an argument that he agreed to this. Chad does what Chad wants. But you're not Chad. No, but I'm inspired by. But that doesn't work. That's not how that works.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I don't know how much you're into looks maxing, but you cannot do Chad moves if you're not Chad. Here's what I know. I didn't pay him. But he's going to sue you. Is he already suing you? He hasn't suing me yet. Assuming he sues you,
Starting point is 00:25:04 are you aware that you're for sure going to lose? Unless he's a retarded lawyer. I don't know what's his deal, but I mean, you know that obviously, technically you have to pay him, yes? Maybe one day. Maybe one day? I'm not going to let it stop my GTA6, acquisition. Acquisition?
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah. What do you mean acquisition? buying buying gta six oh just the game for 70 bucks yeah not like acquiring rockstar or anything hmm interesting let me ask you should i buy gta six or should i pay my lawyer back does that answer your question i think so personally well that's his take on it my opinion i think you should probably pay your lawyer back and i'm not giving you that is some ethical advice is this legal advice you charge me for this right now no because i don't really care about lawyers You know, a lot of...
Starting point is 00:25:58 I know. Well, how does a lawyer charge $150,000 for a couple months of work? It doesn't make any sense. That's a rip off. Well, mainly I just don't care about lawyers because I think a lot of them are not doing what they think is right. They're just doing it for money, in which case, I don't really feel bad if they get money stolen from them. But that doesn't stop the fact that you'll be made to give that lawyer money should he sue you or you'll go to jail. We don't have debtors prison in America, so I'm not going to jail.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So what would happen exactly? That's an interesting point. They would repossess my PS5. they yeah they wouldn't have much to repossess if you only have nine hundred fifty dollars nine thirty you said it was thirty so it would actually be nine twenty oh and how many did you buy you bought four of them uh i plead the fifth so it actually be eight thirty eight thirty is better than nothing though true following up on that last one if you lose the governor's election will you be reimbursing all your donors um it's a good question uh
Starting point is 00:26:56 That would assume that I was getting paid for running, which I'm not. It's covering staff. But they donated for you to win, not lose. It's like going to five guys and you order a burger. And you don't give you a bun or cheese or lettuce or anything. That's a fair point. So will you be giving them their money back? I will.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I'm going to, I'm going to win. So they're not going to worry about that. Yeah. But let's, like, I'm not even going to say, let's talk for real. Like you're for sure going to lose. Maybe you have a chance. If it's 15%. If you lose, though, what will you be doing?
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm going to win. If you lose, what will, come on. Give me a real answer. Don't do that. That's like, don't hide out of the question. Well, we're not going to be reimbursing because we had to pay our staff. Right. And maybe the lawyer had to pay his staff.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Did you ever think about that one? Fishberg, Fishron? Fishstein. Fishstein. Did you ever consider that? Maybe the lawyer isn't just working by himself? Tough luck. But then what was to say you wouldn't do that to your donors?
Starting point is 00:27:57 You don't feel bad for the donors? I get a tough luck to the lawyer. Fuck the lawyer. I agree. What about the donors? Can't say fuck them. We're going to win. That's a cop out.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I got you there. That's fine. I'll take it out once in a while. Do you think disabled people should have the same rights as everybody else, despite the fact they cannot contribute to society at all? I think they should have the same rights, and I think they do, in fact, contribute to society. How do they contribute to society?
Starting point is 00:28:27 And I'm not looking for an argument like somebody says, dogs contribute to society because they make you happy because they look funny. Well, there's a lot of people out there who work at grocery stores who started great companies. And so just, I'm not talking about the one guy who, you know, he has lost a toe. I'm talking about a real disabled. Yeah, I believe it is. Well, I think, look, if you, I think if you're pro life, you believe that every life is worth equal and you have to protect that dignity. But that's just denying the basic instincts that I'm paying taxes to a guy. who's not contributing to taxes
Starting point is 00:29:01 because he can't even move his eyeballs. Well, you're talking to the guy who hasn't paid his lawyer, so I'm not contributing either. Well, you're not contributing to the lawyer, and I guess that would probably imply that you're the type of guy to not pay your taxes. However, I won't just assume that I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The lawyer is not a government entity.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Correct. So that's a completely different thing. It's kind of like how that five guys thing has worked earlier when I did it. Correct. Are you related to Duke Fishron? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Did I ask that one already? Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. Okay, let's continue, Mr. Fish. Yeah, go ahead. Will you enforce mandatory double jaw surgery for all sub-3s? Only if clav approves.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Okay, so you're going to, if you win, you're going to give him a position in the government. Yes. And what type of position would that be? Director of looks maxing. Is that a new thing? It's kind of like Doge. Yeah, it's like Doge. And what do you think about Elon?
Starting point is 00:30:22 That's kind of an interesting follow-up. I like Elon. I mean, I don't agree with him on everything, but I like Elon. I have a Tesla. They're good cars despite, you know, he's an interesting guy. You know, in some ways, he reminds me of you kind of like with the video game stuff. Did you ever hear what he did with his video game stuff? No. Well, he claimed he was one of the best Diablo players in the world, but it turns out he was paying a Chinese guy. When did I claim to be a good video gamer?
Starting point is 00:30:50 No, I'm saying it's just, it's similar. He was grifting being a good player, you're grifting character. about GTA. It's the same thing. Yeah, but this is just far worse because he's autistic to the point where if I told that to him, he would go, no, it's not true, even though everybody knows it is. Whereas when I told you about the GTA, I think you're able to play around with it a little bit. Yeah, but just so just because you haven't played GTA 5 doesn't mean that you don't care about GTA? Not necessarily.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I just, come on. I just know that you said that to sound cool. I just thought it. Well, of course I said it to sound cool. I mean, why would I not, why would I say it? That's larping. That's not larping. Not LARPing.
Starting point is 00:31:24 What do you... Okay, so you said something to sound cool, not because you thought it's cool. What do you think that is, my friend? No. Mr. Fish. LARPing is you've never played GPA. GPA?
Starting point is 00:31:33 I have not played GPA. Where are my gloves? Come on, heat. Winter is hard, but your groceries don't have to be. This winter, stay warm. Tap the banner to order your groceries online at voila.ca. Enjoy in-store prices without leaving your home. You'll find the same.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Same regular prices online as in-store. Many promotions are available both in-store and online, though some may vary. Have you? If you've never played GTA, you've never played video games, and you're all of a sudden like, guys, let's go play some GTA together. That's not cool. That's larping. Well, I haven't played G-TPA, and I'm not a flan, so I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Do you think McDonald's should be allowed to cremate their customers if they die in the restaurant? I'm not opposed to that, actually. Why? Well, I think it's a great place to source the meat for the new Big Arch sandwich. The Big Arch? But why? What's that specifically? I haven't heard of that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 That's not Sophie Rain. I'm talking about the new sandwich. No, I know. It's a double, double quarter pounder. Why'd you mention that one specifically? Can I talk? So you do speak English. If you do become the governor of Florida,
Starting point is 00:33:22 would you consider introducing a bill that lets homeless people live inside government buildings? No. Why? Because we don't. want anyone living inside of government buildings, let alone homeless people. Okay, but government buildings, the government itself is for the people, right? You're for the people, right? I'm for the people. Okay, so it's for the people. Most people have a home. Homeless people need somewhere to stay. In Florida, there's thunderstorms. These people are getting struck by lightning, and then
Starting point is 00:33:48 they're turning into zombies worse than they already were. So why isn't that a good solution? Well, it is a good solution to make sure that they have access to indoor facilities if there's storms or cold fronts, but it cannot be a government courthouse. Why? It can't be the governor's mansion. We're playing GTA 6th. Okay, but not the governor's mansion because there's already people playing GPA or whatever you call it. Yeah, we're in GPA and we're we're carjacking someone for the flame. The flam, you change it again. You can't keep changing it. You have to be consistent.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I'm thinking of spam now. You don't even know what you're thinking about, I would say. Okay, anyway, though, seriously, what were we saying? Let me ask you this. I don't know what the exact stats are. Homeless in Florida, a big issue like it is in L.A. New York or no? So what are you going to do to help? I'm going to remove them from the streets using the Florida National Guard.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You're going to remove them? Something like that, I don't know. No, we're not going to shoot them. When did I say shoot homeless people? That's disgusting. What were you doing? I was giving them meals. I was had one of those launchers.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I was shooting burgers. I had them. You were aiming? Did I look like I was. I was going like this. Did I have, no, I wasn't doing anything like that. Is that what a noise a gun makes? Yeah, that's the noise of gun makes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I know it from playing GTA PAM. GTIPAM? You change it again? Are you crazy? Was that on purpose this time? Yeah, that was on purpose. No, it wasn't. I'm just retarded.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Spongebob. That's correct. If your parents ever gave you money, wouldn't that mean you're funded by Jews? It's a good point. They don't give me money, so I don't have that problem. They've given you money. before. I mean, it had to have happened at some point.
Starting point is 00:35:29 My mom paid for Chipotle last weekend, yeah. So I was technically funded by Jews. Is that how that would work for you? I don't know the exact government details about it, though. But the campaign requirements. What do you think I'm Jewish? Well, based off how you answered that question, yes. Okay. Are you?
Starting point is 00:35:47 I am not Jewish. Are you doing the same, like, play as me? No, I'm just not Jewish. You're not Jewish. Yeah. You're Colombian? I'm American. But where does your roots go back?
Starting point is 00:35:57 to my father side Germany my mother side Columbia okay did she pull off that Nigerian thing that I mentioned earlier or no no no because I read somewhere but maybe it maybe it was false intel no no she's not illegal okay well neither were they she was not here in us she was not here on a travel visa but you said your father where was he is German well I mean going all the way back to the 1700s yeah oh but you you're his family is being in America for a long time now long time how many generations back a little longer than Pocahontas I don't I don't count her as a
Starting point is 00:36:27 American and I don't count what she lived in is America. So I don't think that's a reasonable answer. 1760s. Okay. So he was one of the first. Not my dad, but his ancestors. His people. There were the ancestors. Okay. Would it be fair to say you're the conservative version of Zoran Mamdani? Yeah. If you frame it as conservative, I think that we're both in our early 30s. We've, we both have very different ideas that depart from the traditional Republican Democrat Party. And I think like Zoron we're going to win and pull off a stunning upset. So yeah, I think it's a compliment. Now, do you like him? What's your take on him? I certainly don't like a lot of his policies, but I think that he's probably a pretty cool guy.
Starting point is 00:37:10 What does that mean? I feel like that's kind of contradictory, especially for a politician to say. Well, I would rather hang out with him than Byron Donald's for five hours. What's this thing with Byron Donald's? I don't know anything about him. What is he done specifically? I mean, I hadn't heard of him before your stuff because I don't live in Florida, so I just didn't know anything about. the guy. Yeah, I mean, he's endorsed by Donald Trump. He's, there's four people in the race. He's in first. I'm in second. He's, uh, he's a pretty bad dude. What is he done? Nothing. That's the whole point. Okay. He's been in Congress for five years. He has absolutely nothing to show for it. I wouldn't say that means he's a bad dude. Maybe that means he's just kind of
Starting point is 00:37:46 a useless fool if that's the case, but I would say useless slave, but yeah. Slave? Yes, because he's black? Because he's black? No, because he's a slave. But is it like a black joke? Maybe, but that's irrelevant. It's also, you're just a slave. Yeah, but you don't just say things like that about people. I'm just inquiring from where. That's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:06 You would say that about your political opponent. I mean, that it is kind of like Zoron on the complete other end. Interesting. Do you think Zoran would call his opponent slaves? Probably not. He's not an edgy enough. Yeah. Is that you shooting a homeless person?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Looks like a woman. What'd she do? Now, let me ask you this. With only four months left before the election, what are your closing words to people, idiots like Longneck, who still unfortunately have the right to vote? My closing argument is this. No, but specifically to people like Longneck. Dumb people. Who's Longneck?
Starting point is 00:38:53 He's my next guest in a couple minutes, but he's an idiot. But in America, if you're an idiot, you still get to vote. My closing argument to Longneck is probably not even a Florida resident, as I'm fighting for a Florida that we can all. afford. And how will you get that done? So a lot we have to do. We have to lower auto insurance, health insurance, property insurance, eliminate property taxes, you need to increase funding for public schools, raise teacher pay, police pay, first responder pay. Can I stop and criticize something you said? Sure. It's actually the whole thing. Longneck doesn't understand what any of those words mean. He understands words like food and Gucci Barry and Wide Neck. So Gucci Berry? That's one of his friends
Starting point is 00:39:31 along with white neck. So when you're saying I'm going to remove property taxes, he doesn't understand these things. So we're going to give him more food for cheaper? He doesn't know what cheaper means. He just understands food. He doesn't know what more means. Okay, so food.
Starting point is 00:39:46 He doesn't know if you're saying that in a good way or a bad way. Food. That's assuming he understands like... Is he blind? He's not blind, but blind in the sense that he doesn't really have an understanding of what gestures are. or human interactions, because he is an IQ of six. Does he know, what kind of food does he like?
Starting point is 00:40:09 I don't know, actually. He weighs about 30 pounds. Is he human? Unfortunately. Okay. Okay, well, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. I have to interview Long Neck, and he obviously has an important meeting with Mike Pence. Good luck with that.

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