The Matan Show - Matan Finally Confronts Hunter Biden About Everything...

Episode Date: September 13, 2026

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Hunter Biden. Welcome in. Thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. For today's co-host, we have my manager, Virofoolering. Welcome in Virofloring. Viral.

Hey, guys. Turn this off. Thanks. So if you could just pull the mic close to your mouth and then introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you and all that one. I'm Hunter Biden. I'm a friend of Mike Mike's. Friend of Mike Mike Mike? Yep, friend of Mike Mike Mike.

Well, I thought you probably just met him for the first time. know? Yeah, but I feel like I know him from watching him all the time. I would think that you might know him from somewhere else, to be honest, with the look of him. Yeah, that too. Did you meet a lot of people who look like him? Yeah, quite a few, quite a few. But he looks like he's doing great. It looks like he's doing good.

It's an extremely generous thing to say. It is, but he's a generous kid, so I'm not a kid, he's a generous young man. With the mentality of a child. I got nothing bad to say about Mike. I've only about to say about him. Oh, you do? Yeah, fuck me. Tried stealing my job last week.

But anyways, in case anybody doesn't know who you are, maybe tell them a little bit about it. I guess it's a little obvious because you're extremely famous and your last name is Biden, but, you know. I'm Hunter Biden. I am first and foremost. I am a former and recovering addict and I work with other addicts. I work with an organization called Peak Path Health. And I'm trying to start a foundation for people in recovery and aftercare here in Los Angeles. And why were you addicted to playing World of Warcraft?

No, it was actually worse. It was crack co-cheen. Well, that can probably even be more fun, depending on the time, right? Because that game can get a little boring for months on end. The World of Warcraft or the Kri-K one. Well, Krook is always fun. I saw you said that you were doing it every 15 minutes. No, I promise you, it's not always fun.

But it becomes kind of compulsive, though. To everyone out there, I do not recommend it. Did your plug know he was selling to the president's son? No, I don't think so. And also, at one point, I, uh, number one is that I was never using when my dad was president. I got, I got clean and sober a year before, over a year before he got, he became president. Were you using when he was the vice president? Uh, right, right at the end.

Okay. But pretty much it happened, um, after my brother died. And then about a year and a half later is when I started. right at the end when he was vice president. But most of it happened during the time. Did you ever have money issues buying it? Were you ever low on money? Oh, yeah, yeah.

So I'm saying you probably could have used that. Like, I don't know, you guys can look this up. You could have told us to your plug. Like, you can look this up. I'm actually the president's son. If you don't give me that for free, I'm going to tell on you. Yeah, no, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way.

Why not? I mean, they might not believe you at first, but once they look it up, they can be like, holy shit, we've got to give this guy the whole supply. Well, I don't think they would sell to me ever again. So I, you know, I think I try to keep anonymous as much as I could. Donald Trump recently tweeted, I am so sorry for the ruthless lies and conspiracies I have spread about Joe Biden and his family,

especially his son, Hunter. I hope they can forgive me one day. Matan, please ask Hunter if he forgives me, end of quote. If he actually said that, I'm all about forgiveness. So you forgive him? If he said that, I forgive him. And if he didn't say that, your thoughts on him? Then go fuck himself.

What about his family? You have an issue with them too? I'm not a big, you know what? I'm not a really big fan of the family. And, but I think that's pretty, I made that pretty clear over the course of time. I'm not a big fan of any of them. Really?

Yeah. What about, what about Baron? Well, that's true. I don't know Baron. I don't know enough about Baron to say that I dislike him. And he's a young guy. He's still got a chance, maybe. Do you think you should try crap?

No, God, nobody should try a drag. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. No. You want it all to yourself because your worst enemy, they shouldn't experience something that good. Well, I was my worst enemy. That's exactly right. Yeah, definitely, definitely. And we're going to, there's a little game I wanted to play.

I'm going to say a name. Is viral going to play the game? He'll play a different game later, actually. He'll facilitate the other game later. This is a game. I'm going to say your name. And then you quickly have to say the first word that pops into your mind that you'll associate with the person. Okay, I'm not very good at these things, but I'll try.

Just try your best. Okay. I'm going to close my eyes. Okay. Kamala Harris. Smart. Rickakis. Who? Rikakis. Rikakis. I don't know Rikakis. Is that the word who? We can use that one.

What is it? Rick Kakis. Yeah. Who? Okay. You got to say it like this, though. Who? Joe Biden. The best. Rudy Giuliani.

Asshole. Bill. Cypher. Don't know him. Vladimir Putin. Evil. Hillary Clinton. Really smart.

Manic Mike. Don't know enough. Skeletron. So, Stellatron. Interesting. Viral flooring? Don't know. But he's right there.

Oh, viral. I didn't get that. You tagged on the end there. I thought it was a. Barrel Florin. And so it viral. Well, I have a couple more. Hold on. The accent got me.

Hassan Piker? Smart. Interesting word. LeBron James. Ooh. I have a word. It's not the one I would have used. Well, this is my game.

But I'll have an amazing clip if you use my word. What's your word? Don't, don't, don't. You can do it, and I can. No, yeah, I'm not doing it. I have a, I have four years left of my word. You do. I'm walking out. Yeah. I caught that. Yeah. Will you stay? I'll stay if you do it.

No, I'm not doing it. I promise you. I'll give you money to do it. I'm not even remotely doing it. JD Vance? Dushbag. Markiplier. Don't know. And finally, Jim.

Jim? Yeah, Jim. There's a lot of gyms. I know a lot of gym. Which gym? Jim. Jim? Just Jim? Yeah. The gym I know I love. That's the word you would use?

The one I know, the gym I know, I love. It's my uncle. My uncle Jim. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's not who I was talking about. I don't even know who I was talking about. I just couldn't think of any more famous people.

Oh, one more, Skeletron Prime. Oh, strong. It's a good word. Yeah. The toughest mechanical boss. Okay. I think you did good on that game. Thank you.

That was a great. I appreciate that. I feel like it's a good start there. Thanks. I actually want to give you. your present, not just because you did so good on that game. Oh, boy. Okay. You're going to like it. It's a gift. Okay.

I promise you're going to like it. Okay. Okay. It's actually very thought out. I think this is the perfect gift to give you. Feel free. All right. It's kind of heavy. I know. It's a good gift. It wasn't cheap either. Okay, we'll see. Is this going to explode on me? No. Is it going to cause me to relapse? It very well might, but that's up to you. That's pretty cool. Let's see here.

Okay. You really wrap this. Oh. Come on. I haven't had one in seven years. That's a great gift. That is a great gift. It's a brand new 2017 MacBook.

Look at that. I am going to take this fucking thing home. Just so you know. It's a gift. I have it on camera. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I told you you were going to like it.

I know you needed one. Is this the one? It's not the one. It's the same model. All right. I like it, man. Which means it isn't brand new. They don't really make those ones anymore, but it's the 2017.

Thank you. It's hard to get that. Will you sign it for me? People, you know, people ask me to sign their laptops now. Really? Yeah, yeah. I love what it's fun to do. That's a great thing for you to sign.

I'm thinking about it. I can make a little business out of that. You should. I'm sure people will pay a lot of money for that. Exactly. Is that the best gift you've ever been given? Probably. Or up there at least.

Well, yeah. Outside of family stuff? Yeah. From a stranger? Absolutely. It's not a stranger to me. We know each other now. It's an important thing.

You lost it. You needed a new one. I did. I haven't had one for years. Yes. Yeah. Thank you, brother. Of course.

You weren't the one who stole that out of like one of my motel rooms. I thought you turned it in for water damage. Yeah. No, uh-uh. Let's see here. Well, wait, we'll turn it on afterwards and see if it has any of those pictures on it. Okay. Well, they're all out now anyway.

Yeah, they're all out now. We can download them. I mean, even if they were all out. on here. Who knows if they're the original. Exactly. All right. Thank you, by the way. Of course. I'm happy you like it. I actually really do. Do you think you defeated Hillary Clinton for the biggest email scandal of all time? Oh, 100%. Really? Yeah. I mean, they got all of mine. They only got like a few of hers. They got 20 years of my emails. I don't know though because I... But there was really nothing in there. I think your scandal was bigger, but it wasn't just about emails. Yeah, it was more about the pictures.

Right. There's the pictures. There was, you know, the drugs, too, or a big part of it with her was really just emails. Yeah, exactly. Hers was much more consequential, but far more boring. But you defeated her in that regard. Well, at least I got one win out of it.

Thank you. And following up on that, do you think you could defeat Hillary Clinton in a game of Crucible on Destiny 2? No, Stacey's allowed, obviously. Yeah, absolutely. Really? I agree. Yeah.

know, guys, from what I've heard, it's just kind of obvious. They have better mechanism with their fingers. They have better instincts. I don't know about that, but, you know. That's a fact. Why do you think they have to separate the NBA and the WNBA? They're about to be one anyways, but still. Because of their fingers?

It's a big part of it. The fingers are longer. They're more athletic. You ever see a WNBA player palms the ball like Michael Jordan? Yeah, I have, actually. Brittany Griner. Well, that might be a man. It's unclear.

We don't know for sure. She's amazing. I love her. I love Brittany. Shout out to her. Yeah. If only we still had the other guy. Why do you think you're so scrutinized for fucking hos and doing drugs when that's what all of the other rappers do?

Yeah. You know what? I think the reason is because I didn't rap, you know? Okay. And or, you know, the truth of the matter is, is it. Color your skin. No, no. I don't think it has to do with that in any way.

I don't know. Well, you know, I'm not. You know, I'm not one to get racist or say anything racist. Really? You know me. But I would say if you were a different... Yeah, go ahead. I'm just getting the reaction here.

She's got the glasses on. Yeah, okay. You know, I would say if you were black, you probably wouldn't have got any shit for it. It would have just been like, oh, that's another one. I don't think that's true. I think that I got away with a lot because of the color of my skin. Oh, really? Which is unfair, yeah.

Do you believe in white privilege? No, I don't believe in it, but I think it is. This. Oh, nice. Are those the emails? Yeah, just telling, just saying. Well, I don't know. They're classified. Classified? Do I get to read them viral? Nope. Okay. What was the worst part about being the son of President Obama? The son of President Obama? Yeah. Sorry, sorry, President Barack Obama. What was the worst part? A lot of pressure on you because you were the son of the president? Well, it might it would I would I would be honored to be President Obama's son, but I love my dad more than anything in the world. So I'm just glad I'm his. Is he not what you're famous for along with all

the drick stuff for being the president's son? Yes, exactly. Not that one though. The other one. Different guy. Yeah, different guy. Yeah. President oblaminator. No, not oblaminator. President O'Biden. So you're not Obama. Are you related to him? You know we are almost maybe. Get this. So President Obama's, like, great, great grandfather lived in the same town in Ireland that my dad's great, great grandfather one. And they left Ireland in a place called Collingford Locke on the same ship at different times. But one of them was like, you know, on the ship and then one of them was under the ship. No, no, they were both on the ship. What do you think about? They were both on the ship.

No, no, no. Technically, yes. That's not what I'm saying at all. One of them was manning the ship, like a captain. That's not what I'm saying. And then one of them was a captain. There is an Irishman from County Louth. When you originally started that story, I thought it was going to go in a way different direction. No, no, no, no, no, no. But, yeah, keep up, keep up here.

Okay, fine. All right. And do you think Oblami was really born in Kenya? Who? Oblami? President Barack Obama? President of Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. Yeah.

But I've heard some rumors. That's something Trump said as well. Yeah, I know. And you know what? He's a complete jackass. So I don't think, and I'm positive if it wasn't true, let me see that. Well, here's a piece of evidence. It came out.

Trump put that on truth social. Trump did? That's a real photo. I think it's from like 50, 60 years ago. Truly a fucking jackass. But this is real evidence. No, it's not. No.

See, it's all right, buddy. It's not evidence. But that's the problem. That's, will you, in the shredder, in the shredder viral. That's not a real photo? No, it's not a real photo. See, it's a doctored photo. There was a lot of, there's a lot of doctored photos out there.

You got to be careful. But that one's real. That was probably AI. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm 100% sure. 100% on that. But you could tell it to Obama because he's a baby. No, I'm telling you, I can tell the difference between a real photo and not, for real.

I've become an expert at this stuff. Yeah. But think about it. There's a big Kenya flag in the back. No, there's the giveaway. There's the giveaway. Why is that a giveaway? That lets you know it's in Kenya.

No, because it's a set up because not in a maternity ward, they don't hang, they don't hang flags. It's got to be sterile. That's the giveaway. Oh, the other giveaway. The other giveaway, that was his wife, Michelle. That wasn't his mother. No, I think that was his mother. I think they look similar.

You ever hear that people usually end up dating people? I promise you. I promise you. It looks like their mother. You're going to feel really silly if you go out. there and think that that was. Don't listen to Donald Trump. I'm telling you. It'll save you a lot of grief.

I'll take the risk and I'll say it. I think Oblamy was born in Kenya. Oh, gosh. That's a really, real. I tell you what, that is a really, really, really I would not suggest you take that position. No? No. Because it's too based?

I don't know anybody that's more popular than President Obama. Well, I'm talking about Oblami. Oh, Oblami. By the way, I didn't know of any obloamy. I've never heard of Oblame. You just saw him and then you had him delete the... I think that's some sort of crime.

By the way, it doesn't exist anymore. So I did everybody a favor. Can you please have a stroke so this can go mega viral? Ooh. I don't really want to have a stroke. But think about how much that'll help me. But I've been taking so much care of myself. I got my coffee with, you know, with my coconut sugar.

With my water. What? Sugar is inside of the coffee. Yeah, it's actually real sugar. That's why the quotations, yeah. Coconut sugar, though. I don't like... Does anybody ever approach you on the street and kind of...

Oh, yeah. That maybe you're interested in actually buying drugs? Oh, no, no, no. They all know I'm in recovery now. And, you know, the truth matters is that most people are actually really nice. And most people, you know, understand not just what I went through, but, like, how much you, like, really care about being someone in recovery. Yeah, you know, what I was saying earlier, just to go back.

back on that when I said about the rappers thing. Really, in terms of the drugs and, you know, a bunch of different women, it's something that a lot of people do. There's not much difference between you and them in that regard. Well, I don't think it's, it's not just rappers, and it's

not about the women. It's that addiction is actually, like, you know, I always say this in every show. 50 million Americans at any given day are struggling with their own addiction or trying to hold on to their recovery. And you think that it should be none of them? And I should I, oh, I wish that people didn't have to go through it.

But, you know, clearly we aren't very. But then we would have less interesting plot lines, movies, and TV shows. That's 100% true. So maybe we need a couple of them. It's worth it. You sacrifice a couple of them. Yeah, well, maybe we could just have them live in one, you know, one area. Well, usually we do group them together and put them in those homes that end up just turning into.

Yeah. Honestly, they should make a show about it. Yeah, they have, I think, a couple times. A reality show, a real show? Yeah, remember that one with Dr. Drew? You know, the Celebrity Rehab are one of those things. Remember that? Oh, but that's with celebrities.

Yeah, real people. Yeah, I'm talking about the real ones, because those guys are going to be way crazier. Yeah, there's some crazy things, I'll tell you that. Hey, guys, Saur for the interruption. Have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Factor. As I'm sure you guys can all tell, over the last couple months, I've been extremely busy, traveling around the entire world, helping those in need and doing extremely charitable work. One of the great things about Factor is that it helps you stay healthy even while

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I don't know about all jricks, but I would decriminalize a large class of drach. I don't... No, no, no, definitely not crack. Definitely not crack. But I do say this, is that there is a really important conversation to be had about the way in which we treat drug addicts and which we criminalize the use of dros. And so most of the violence that occurs around the, around drugs is in the drug trade is the fact that it is, you know, a very, the criminal element of a black market.

And also the way that we treat addicts, you know, and putting them in jail, which doesn't really do anything. You don't think we should put the addicts in jail? No, I don't. Execute them or what do we do? No. The opposite. I think you should give them a chance for recovery. And there's a lot of programs like that that used to be around,

and then they kind of fell out of favor. But I think that we should look at decriminalization. For all drachshundization? For all drachians? I don't know. I think that we should be studying it, but a lot of drugs, yeah. Well, I mean, in particular, I think you can start with drugs like M. And others that, you know.

Well, I think it is decriminalized in most places. Yeah, it's almost that. Yeah, yeah. Now all these stupid kids are lazy bums, so there is some negative consequences. Well, there is that, yeah, yeah. Do you smoke a whiz now? No, God. Nothing?

No. No, and only because the one that I couldn't do, the one that would literally make me, like, comatose, and I couldn't move. I'd be, like, curled up on a ball and the bathroom floor is my s'm a shit. Really? Yeah. Why? Yeah. I can smoke a crap all day, but I couldn't smoke a borgon.

Yeah. I don't know. Well, I've never done any of them, but I always thought that if I was going to... You've never done any drugs or drank alcohol. I mean, I'm 19. I can't even if I wanted to. Yeah, good. Stay that way.

But I always... My brother. My brother didn't drink. Never? Yeah. Yeah. Well... Neither did Trump, too.

Yeah. True. Yeah. Neither did my dad. Oh, really? Dad never had a drink. Yeah. So maybe that's what pushed you to the opposite edge.

Well, you know what? I think they're just smarter than me, you know? And, well, I know they were smarter than me. But I was going to say that if I was to ever do one, I've thought about it, I think I would try to go for the most extreme one. You've got to have one experience, you've got to make it a memorable one. Yeah. So, you know, forget the we forget that.

No, don't do it. Big time. I'm begging you. I love seeing you on, you know, on my TikTok. Yeah, so don't because you won't be able to make it to work the next day. It's a good point. I mean, my work at this point is kind of like all over the place. So I would probably get way more famous if I ended up in the hospital for like nearly dying from a, from injecting myself with a crock or whatever.

No. There's nothing worth it. That'd be a big time. Your work is not worth that. I promise you. That would be the first time I'd be covered on mainstream media. Call me. I'll help you out.

Yeah? Yeah. It's a good offer. It's almost enticing. No, it's not. I don't want to entice you. It's like I'll start, I'll start like doing d'I's in the hopes that that can get me closer to you and I can one day get an interview with you. You call before you do it so I can stop you.

Okay. Yeah. All right. That's a lot less appealing to me. Yeah. Do you think Jeffrey Epstein was killed by Osama bin Laden? No, I don't. I think Osama bin Laden died before Jeffrey Epstein.

As a matter of fact, I'm positive he did. How do we know that? You're right. That's true. Nobody knows that for sure. They dumped Osama's body into the ocean. Yep. Like off the boat.

And now the guy who killed him, he's a podcaster. So who knows. Yeah, exactly. So really, who knows about any of it. Maybe they knew how dangerous he was. They wanted to make everybody a bit calmer. And then his big comeback was killing Epstein. Well, you know what? He would have been doing us all a favor, actually. That was the case, right? No.

What? To kill Epstein? Yeah. I mean, if I was to argue this in good faith, I would say that Epstein was already in jail. It was about to reveal a bunch of important information. So maybe kill him like a couple of years later. But then if I was to argue this from like... From a personal standpoint, I would say that...

would say that like he was a fun guy probably. And I'm sure there was a lot of cool things about him. Wait, do you believe Epstein killed himself? No. No. I believe he was murdered by Osama bin Laden. Yeah. Well, I like that dear.

Do you believe that environment? Do you believe that? Reggie. What? Reggie. He believes Reggie killed. Oh, really? Reggie Jackson, the former point guard for the L.A.

Clippers? No, Reggie Jackson, the former center fielder for the New York Yankees. There might be two of them, but I don't know that guy. Reggie Jackson's a good dude, man. I don't think he had anything to do with it. What about Reggie Jackson, the point guard from the L.A. Clippers? He was only there for a couple of years.

He had that one clip where he crossed over Westbrook and then went out of him. Oh, that's Reggie. Oh, yeah. Maybe, dude, he had sick moves. He could have done it. He had some sick moves. He could have snuck in there.

But he wasn't that good. But we know for certain. It is not Reggie Jackson, the center field or former center fielder. We don't know that for certain. It could have. There's it. He may have wanted to.

Well, there's not a chance. Because by the way, he's a stand-up dude. You met him? Yeah, yeah. Did you ever meet Epstein? No, no. I didn't. I can say with certainty that I was, I'd never met Epstein and was never mentioned.

Could you say it's certainly possible you did, but you forgot when I am? No, I remember most things. Really? Yeah, the, and I think I would have remembered that. I was hanging out with a very, very, very different class of people during that period of time. Much lower level. Park Avenue, you know, largest mansions in the world, Mar-Lago. I've never been to Mar-a-Lago, which probably means is the only place that I would run into Jeffrey Epstein is in Mar-Lago.

Yeah. What about? Never been. Never. What about your father? Did he ever meet Epstein? Nope. Never?

No. Hard to believe. He doesn't hang out with those people either. Well, whether or not hanging out, you know, that guy, he was good at maneuvering. Met a lot of people. She was. She was absolutely crazy, the list of people in there. Did you ever meet them?

Unfortunately not. But... What do you mean, unfortunately? Why do you say this? It's been a great story. Seriously. Did you meet him? No.

For sounding Reggie, he's just losing his... Yeah, it's all right though. Do you think it would be a foolish idea for somebody to have you store extremely valuable data for them on your laptop? Say that again? Wait, I've got to get the question right. Do you think it would be a foolish idea for somebody to have you store extremely valuable data for them on your laptop? Yes. Yes, this one.

Wait, did you put highly valuable data on this laptop? No, but I was thinking about how much. asking you to hold some footage for me. Oh, I'm being careful. I'm not very good of keeping... Still? I thought maybe you kind of figure that out yet. Yeah, you know what? I have become much better. You know why? Is it I don't have a laptop?

I just... You don't? I choose to not have a... Have you switched to a desktop since... No, no desktop anything. I just use my phone. Well, they can still get you on there, same as a laptop. No, I know. That's absolutely true. That's absolutely true, but there's nothing on my phone. There's nothing in my digital footprint since I got clean and sober that anybody in the world

could see if they wanted to. You'll release it. Maybe you should do a live stream where you screen share and then you just start going through all of your data. My digital, my digital footprint going forward. That could be interesting. You know what? Think about this though. Think about this. Is that do you know anyone that would be willing to share their entire digital life for 20 years? is that if I sold, do you think that anyone has a right, then, regardless of how they came about it, to sell it to the New York Post or to put it up on the Daily Mail or to do that? For how much money?

Yeah, well, not, well, I didn't get, that's the thing. I didn't get any money off. See, it's a good question. No, not how much money you get? How much money does the guy selling it to the New York Post get? Oh, exactly, yeah. Like, we can be all on. You know, I saw that, you know, that guy.

Oh, you've had them on, John Curiaku? Yeah. Yeah. He has this whole thing about, you know, that are sociopaths or the people that are and he puts himself in this category sociopathic tendencies so they ask questions like that it's like a sociopath would say yeah I would sell the the digital because I'm a sociopath that I don't care what a smart person says and then the other guy's a liar or a fool that yeah exactly

kuriaku would say that it's sociopathic tendencies to say well situationally Would I do it for a lot of money? Kiroaku would say that and then do it and then like plant it on me. Well, that's true too, by the way. Yeah. He's pretty crafty guy. He's a craft. I like him.

He helped me torture my friend. Oh, what? Mike, Mike? Yeah, we tortured him. We waterboarded him. No. With Kirooku. Oh, that's right.

It actually showed me the correct way to do it. That was awful, actually. That was awesome. Yeah, no. That's like when people ask you to sign their laptops, it's getting waterboarded by John Kriakou. No, it's like a legendary experience. Awful, awful.

No, that's an amazing experience. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, there's another game I wanted to play. I told you earlier he would be involved. Wait, you didn't tell me earlier he would be involved. No, I said via flooring. You asked if he'd be part of the game earlier.

Gotcha. I have to go grab the head. Okay. Is that a shot collar? No, no, I'll explain. Hold on. Okay. You know that game?

So basically, we're each going to put this on our head. Yeah. And then we have a little thing and we have to guess what it is. Oh, yeah, yeah. It could be like a dog or a shark or something. Yeah. Okay. Okay. You want to use this one? Yeah, sure. Okay. Do I have the cards?

He adds it. That's why I said he'll facilitate this game. Just close your eyes when he puts it on your head. Okay. Because you don't want it to get spoiled. Well, here, you put it in first, viral, and then you put it on my head. I'll turn around. Okay. I hope I don't look like an idiot. No, you look great, actually.

Yeah. That's a look. For real. Very 60s. Oh, no. Yeah. Isn't that when those gay people started coming around? You know what you look like? You look like you could be on the Manson property. You look like to be Manson. Like a killer rick?

Hold on. He's handing it to you, but don't look at the card. Okay, I'm looking down. We have to guess. And then I'll let him put one on me. Okay, yeah. I won't look. You see?

Wait a second. If I squint really hard, I can see it in the reflection of the window. Okay, I can see yours. Okay, don't. You see mine? I don't know what mine is. You see mine. Yeah, I see yours.

Okay. Well, that's a good one. Yeah. Okay, how do we do this? You start. We have to ask each other questions about it. Yeah. Am I a human? No.

Am I an animal? No. Okay. Oh, now it's my turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Am I an animal? No. Okay.

Are you, wait, oh, am I a food? No. Okay. Some, you know, people might have turned into food. Okay. Wait, you ask me now. Okay. Yeah.

Am I a food? Same question. Yes. Okay. I shouldn't have done that question. Yeah, so you got a good one. Now your turn. I've asked, well, I ask animal, the human's an animal.

Am I a person? No. God. Okay. Is this a cheap food? Would this be expensive? It depends. Interesting.

Is this something that I can wear? No. Okay. I'll give you a hint because I think this is probably a harder one than I have. Okay. It's an event. Oh, okay. Got it.

Okay. Am I Christmas? No. Okay. Quite the opposite. Okay. Am I Christmas? No.

Oh, no. Am I a holiday that everybody celebrates? Probably. billion people. Two billion people? Ramadan. No. Oh, Mecca. No, that's not a holiday. That's just a place. Oh, that's true, yeah. Okay, my turn. Hold on. You use two there. I get two now. Okay, yeah, you're right. Okay. So I'm a food and you said it could be expensive. Yeah. Is it something used on other foods as well? Yes. Is it something, okay, here's my next question. Okay. Is it something you could also eat standalone or no? Yes. Okay, interesting. Yeah.

Is it a religious holiday? You could say that. You could make that claim. I think that you're misleading me. Okay, go ahead. I'm really not. You should know that I'm probably saying something not nice, so you should figure it out. Is this something somebody would eat every day?

Some people do. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Does it have to do with me? Are you Jewish? Oh.

Is this Rosh Hashanah? No, it's not. Okay. Now it's my guess. It is some sort of liquid? No. Cold. All right.

It has to do with... This is no question. It has to do with Judaism. And are you having me wear something that is, like, really, like, not cool? You are, aren't you? What do you mean? Yeah. Is this genocide?

No. Hold on. It's about a fall off. Don't look at it. Don't look at it. It's not genocide. I want to know. I want everybody to know.

The two have multiple holidays for that. That I do not support or endorse whatever is on my head. Because I can tell that this isn't an actual card that does that. And I usually have a rule not to wear funny hats. Okay. Your question now. Am I cheese? Yeah.

Yeah, you are cheese. You got it. All right. You want it. So I get to look. I get to look. I win. I get to look.

You were 9-11. Oh, 9-11. That's not a holiday. It is for 2 billion people probably. No, that's not a holiday. Yeah, you could say it is. That's tomorrow. Oh, shit.

It's going to be really distasteful on my life. By the way, how old were you on 9-11? I was not born for another six years. Another six years? Yeah. Viral was, what, in your early 20s? I think he's like 40. 40?

Something like that. Yeah. Anyway, so now we'll do another one. It's one zero. Okay. We'll do a couple rounds. No, I don't know. I'm putting another one on my head.

No, no, it's just a couple. We're not. Okay. It's best of three. One more round. One more round. Okay, don't look at it. Okay, yeah.

Here, put it in and I'll put it on. And then, wait, give me the other one. Give me his. I was giving you so many context clues, too. I was trying to help you. Yeah, you could just look at mine. Here, I close my eyes. Okay, there you go.

Got it. All right. See, mine's not even in the thing. Okay, I'm ready. Okay, okay. Okay. Who started last time? You did.

So it's your turn now. Am I an event again? Yes, you are. Okay. Am I a food? Yes. Why are mine, we have like similar, hold on, let me fix it. I don't know.

I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Okay, it's your turn. Would I be proud of this event? No. Okay, your turn. Am I a food that is derived from an animal?

Part of it. Part of an animal. No, part of the food is derived from the animal. But not necessarily. Okay. Is it a tragic event? Yeah. I'm 9-11 again.

You're 9-11? You're such an asshole But you want So we have to do best of three It's one to one I'm not being 9-11 again No we won't be I don't know how that happened

They must have messed up the box That game was expensive to By the way I think it was viral's fault Lasagna? Lazzania? How is that derived from an animal Because it's meat lasagna

Did look at the picture? Oh that's true It does have some Part of it, yeah So it's one month We'll do one more game I have an unfortunate feeling I'm going to lose this game

Okay I think I I think I Wait here Okay. Don't look at your card. We don't want you to know what it is. Okay, I'll close my eyes.

Okay, got it. Okay, guys, you can see my card. Okay, okay. Oh, shit. Okay, no, I'm gonna go. No, it's my turn first now. Okay, all right. Am I 9-11?

No. Am I 9-11? Your 9-11? Okay, wait, wait. Okay, you've got to ask me questions now. You see. Am I, an event? No.

Am I a human? No. Am I a food? No. Well, maybe. Am I a shark? You are a shark. I'm good at this game.

He's looking in the window. He's good at this game. No, I just planted all my cards. I like the headband on you, though. I'm being totally serious. Yeah? I'll keep it on for the next question. That was good.

I don't know why they kept giving you the same card. What did he rigged the game? You know what? I think that he is obsessed with 9-11. You could certainly say... The whole Osama thing. we were just talking about. You could say it's a holiday for like two billion meters.

No, it is not a holiday for anybody. No, definitely not. You want him to shred it? No, I'm putting them over here. Oh, oh shit. I'm all right. I'm going to drop my cell of water. It's okay.

Good. Yep, all good. It's the fire rolls over here. Shredding you? No, he didn't distract me. That was my fault. That was clumsy. Hey guys, sir for the interruption.

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Look at those lists. No, absolutely not. Did you see the problem? Look on the internet. It's the opposite. If you research on the internet, you'll come up with a different answer on that way. I know we were just talking about him, but for one, I feel like Epstein was for sure a leftist. No.

A left. No, definitely not. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I feel like he would be. I don't think he was anything. He was an equal opportunity asshole to, you know.

He had friends all over. Probably pro-abortion for his own benefit, but still that would make him a leftist. No. No, I don't think so. But who knows? Who knows? But I've seen all these things on truth social. Yeah.

And this is where these claims are coming from. Yeah. Well, then you have to discount those things. Why? Yeah, because. I give them more credibility. Number one is that not everything on social media is true. Everything on truth social is, though.

Because it's not a social media platform. Because it's a truth platform. Truth platform. Yeah. They put it right in the name. They put it right in the name. How can you lie? Yeah.

I believe you if it was called lying social. Yeah, I know. You know, but it's not called that. But it would have been more appropriate, though. Really? Yeah, I really do think so. I mean, like the only... Are you on true social?

I'm on truth social. Are you really on social? Yeah, but not as myself. Just I have an account there that I skewer around. Is there anybody on there? Trump is on there for sure. I'm sure Vance, I don't even know. He might be.

Yeah. I mean, like the only thing to read on it is him, right? I'm sure Trump Jr. is there, too? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, the only thing. But you know what's so great about truth social? What?

Is that they haven't implemented any of the things that you need to implement to stop scamming and spamming on a social site. So if you go on Instagram and you follow 4,000 people right now, you're going to get banned. If you do that on truth social, you're going to get 400 followers. Oh, really? Yeah, they're going to follow you back. And then you're going to send them a direct message because the messages are open about, I don't know. I think it's going to make a lot of money. Yeah, exactly right.

Exactly right. I'm going to take this thing off now. My head's starting to hurt. And now I probably looks. My hair is all messed up. No, it's perfect. Your hair's, you got great hair, man. I wish I had your hair.

Thank you, Viral. Thanks for viral. You were great on that one. He got to ruin the game. Yeah. But he kept getting the same card over and over again. Wait a second. Is those I'm 9-11 also?

I think he rigged the game. Are those 9-11 ones too? No, the other ones. The other ones up there. No, I think it's different. Yeah, see that? Well, that was in case he wanted. to play two more games.

No. I'm glad we didn't. Yeah. Okay. Why doesn't the left talk about police brutality anymore? Did it finally end? No, it's a great question though. Is it, you know, there was a lot of talk about a lot of things, but not as much anymore.

I think they got, you know, the far, far left. The stores got empty and they stopped carrying. Yeah, exactly. Were you probably, were you there looting? No. Oh, God, no, no. It's somewhere, if it was a couple of years earlier, you might have been. No.

No? I would have been in a fucking crack. You don't have time for anything else. Yeah, but where do you think people were looting mostly in areas like that? No, but you don't have time to do anything else. You know, you just, you're just. Well, I don't really know what the, the headspace you're in when you're smoking crap. Do you know what's happening?

I'm telling you. Oh, yeah, you absolutely know what's happening. But you would know that there's not crack in the Apple store? Yes, exactly. But would you consider that maybe you could sell an Apple computer for crap? Well, maybe, yeah, I guess you could. So there you go. Yeah, it's true.

But no, I wasn't looting. No, I'm vehemently opposed to looting. Really? I never really understood it. Why do that? I'm not opposed to it. I understand it. And I'm not even a leftist.

And by the way, I hope that's not like a really offensive political position to take. You're against looting? I'm against looting? It's offensive to about 13% of the population. Yeah, and I'm for some police, you know, I am 100%. Now they're really pissed. Please, please, please. Yeah.

Uh-oh. Is that for, like, a giant coming in here? The fat head? There's nobody out there with the big head. Mike's Mike's head is like this. I think you reminded us that 9-11 is tomorrow, so he's kind of doing a memorial right now. This is just to honor the lives lost and the victim's families.

You're taking your hat off for them? Well, that's a good idea, actually. Yeah. I took my hat off for them. You didn't have a hat on. Okay. I'm ready. We got another game.

No, we don't, no more games. Come on in. Come on in, Mike. Oh, sorry, you good? Okay. I got you, buddy. Don't let him destroy your wrapping paper. Oh, that's okay.

We don't need, you can save them. Where are you going? Careful. Okay. It's all right. Have any advice for him? No. I don't know.

Smile, Mikey. Mike, Mike. It looks like he's smiling, sort of. He's a good. man. Sorry, buddy. Okay. Do you think the government is overstepping?

I understand it. Do I think the government's overstepping? Do you think the government is overstepping by making it illegal to sell homemade gus inside the target restroom? I absolutely 100%. Yes, exactly. I know a guy who got arrested for that. Do you know they want to sell gus through the mail now?

And Don Jr. owns like half the company. Well, I mean, is there a safer guy to do it? What? Is there a safer guy to do it? His brother is a professional hunter. No, Don, I think Don's a professional one. Are you sure? I thought it was the other guy.

Maybe I'm wrong, though. I thought he was. I think Don's the big, big hunter guy. He killed like a lion or something. Did you see the women that sitting there and they have that dead leopard? Like, how could you do that? That's cool. That's not even remotely cool.

They killed a random animal in Africa. Awful. Awful. Who didn't even know that humans existed until they sh-h-it in the head. Awful, awful, awful. Awful. You don't do that for fun? Mike-Mike doesn't think it's fun.

He looks like he's either having the greatest or worst time of his life right now. Either one. For about 15 minutes. Yeah, 15 minutes. Shoo. Shoo. Okay. We only have a couple left.

Okay, that's all right. I feel like I should hold him. Sorry, buddy. This makes people like that more calm. Yeah, just to make it more calm. I have a calming effect on people. Yeah, you're like an easy talker. Yeah, just in the, there's like a warmth, empty.

You sound very similar to your father, actually, I would say. I do, like the same voice. You look a lot like him, too. Yeah, I'm getting it. Getting there. Getting there. I still have my hair though. Yeah.

Okay. Can you make people that you don't like disappear? Yes. You can do that. Yes. Have you ever done that before? Like a magician, not any other way. No, like make them disappear because of. No, no, I know magic.

So like I can do that thing where you like have a sheet and then you hold it up. You want to do it with, can you try with the cheese thing? I don't think so because it's not big enough, but I can if I have the- Is the 9-11 paper big enough? What? Hey, watch.

Here, get up my mind for a second. Watch. No, you need it. You need more, it's all right, though. It's okay, you can see back down. You can sit back down, Mike. I was gonna, I was gonna do it disappearing. Yeah, but it's okay.

Yeah. And yeah, what class do you usually main in Terraria, melee, ranger, magic, or summoner? Wait, say that again. What class do you usually main in Terraria? Mele, Ranger, Magic, or Summoner? I don't know what a main wall is. No, no, main one.

Which class would you choose in Terraria? Mele, Ranger. Terrarian, I don't do Terraria. Terraria. Terraria, I don't do it. should try it out. What is it? It's a great game. You can play it and then if you ever have like a video game. Yeah, some sort of pitch to do something. I don't have it. Now I have a laptop. I'll be able to do it. It does run on MacBooks actually. It runs on your iPhone too. Oh it does. They ported it to

iPhone. That's where I started like 12 years ago. Yeah. Okay. Which class do you think you'll try? Say it again. What are the, what are the classes? Maylay, Ranger, Summoner and Magic. Ranger. Ranger? Yeah. I'll tell you this. You should save up some gold in the beginning so you can buy the mini shark from the gunsmith. That's probably the best one you can use it. Can I get pointers from you? I'll help you for sure. We can even do a multiplayer world if you like. Oh really? And I can actually help you. I would love to do that. Yeah. Okay. Do you think you have some sort of future in politics? Will you ever try running? Maybe for president, Senate? Not right now. No. But potentially in the future? No. I have no intention of

running for anything. Really? Yeah. Why? Yeah. Because I think I can help a lot more people talking to them about recovery when I'm not running for anything. Yeah. Okay. Once you add politics into it, then it becomes complicated. Yeah. But you're already political. You know what I mean? No, I'm already, I'm not like elected office. I have political opinions. But I'm saying yeah, the negatives that somebody would get from being in office or running for office. Yeah. They get just by the association. They cut off like half of the people will take them, you know, less seriously. We'll think they're lying.

You already have that because your father was Joe Biden. Yeah, that's true. So you don't really, the negative has already been given to you. There's positives with it also, but you already have that negative. No, that's true. But I feel like you can talk past that with people in recovery. And, you know, when you're recovering and you're trying to help somebody else, they don't ask you whether you're Republican or Democrat.

Well, they should because if you're talking to a, uh, a deal. They're probably going to try to treat you. Well, they definitely should ask, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Are you a conservative good boy? All right, buddy. Or do you my . I'm afraid he's gonna cramp up.

No. No. Do you think long neck could ever become president one day? Loudneck? Long neck. Loudneck's a new one they should do him too. I don't know. I don't know long neck.

He's my next guest right now in like three minutes. He's on the way upstairs. Oh really? I think you got stuck in the elevator. He fell through that little slit. You know, like the, he's that small and fragile. He's a little bitch. Fuck you, Longneck.

We're going to beat him up when he comes in here. You want to join in? Yeah, sure. And don't forget this. Okay. All right. By the way, I'm going to cherish this. That is the best gift I've ever given somebody.

Usually I insult people with the gifts. That's a very nice gift, no joke. It's a real deal. Thanks, brother. Have a good one. I don't want to spill anything ever again. Mike, Mike, you get up first or me? I think you.

I'll get up first.