The Matan Show - Matan Finally Confronts Matt Gaetz About His Allegations

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hello everybody welcome back to the park outside of this guest we have my date welcome in you can come see in the middle now please what he's up in hollywood for today's co-host we have mike please welcome in mike you're doing like thanks for being here today. Good to be with you.
Starting point is 00:00:26 It's been a delightful ride out here. Please in case anybody doesn't know you, introduce yourself and a little bit about that. I was in Congress for eight years and then Donald Trump nominated me to be the top cop in the world. That didn't work out so well so now I make a television show in San Diego California called the Mac 8 show and you were in Congress in Florida I represented Florida but I was in Washington DC but the the folks who were my bosses were the good people of Florida okay and by the way we're gonna cut this out but at some point we have a Michelin star chef in the kitchen he
Starting point is 00:01:03 will bring you a dinner and then you can eat it if you would like. You have a Michelin star chef? How do you, where do you find those? I had to hire him. This guy down here, he's not here. Oh dude, that's so weird how the eyes move. How do you, that's, yeah, you're an odd bird. What's with the co-host?
Starting point is 00:01:24 That's Mike Why is Mike? Does Mike have kovat? Oh No, that's just religious reasons. Really is Mike Muslim He might be he hasn't said anything when I asked him fine. You know what we accept all kinds He's not gonna do anything weird is he I don't believe sunglasses Same ones. Yeah. I don't think he'll try and do anything weird. Okay. He'll just be there. Okay. If I want to get in the government, do I have to support Israel? You know, the Israel lobby has an incredible power over the decisions
Starting point is 00:02:00 that government makes, and what we've seen is on the left or on the right, if you question the policies of the Israeli government, legitimately, people will accuse you of anti-Semitism. And that is weird and wrong and kind of unlike anything else we see anywhere else. Now, there are legitimate expressions of concern regarding the anti-Semitism that we see on college campuses, but I got to tell you, no one's asked me the question that directly and the truth is, if you oppose the U.S.-Israel relationship, you face tremendous headwinds
Starting point is 00:02:40 to get into government, not just appointed government, but elected government as well. Dude, it's moving. What is? The thing. It's got eyeballs that raise their eyelids. Who would you rather be president, the Eye of Cthulhu or Skeletron Prime? Neither. Why not?
Starting point is 00:03:03 I love the current one we have. Oh I know but once he's four years or gone I'm a big fan of the great white hope as well. After that I'm for JD Vance. But in this circumstance the Eye of Cthulhu or Skeletron Prime, JD Vance let's say his run is eight years. Alright after JD Vance I'm going like Marco Rubio. Marco's run his eight years now too. Then after that, I'm going Ron DeSantis. Now he's run his eight years. Me.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Eight years. You. Eight years. I think by then they're not going to be around, Matan. Those are- By the way, at the end of your eight years- One of them is a robot. At the end of your eight years, I'm not sure there even will be elections anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Why? What do you think will happen? I think you have tendencies that favor the concentration of power. What do you mean? Well, you understand the centers of power, and that's why you challenge them, which is kind of why I'm a fan of yours, is because you understand that the way you get attention on stuff is to get eyeballs on it. And so you develop these eccentric ways to get eyeballs on information and then you inject that information into a pretty broad bloodstream.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So you're saying once I had control, I would give it up? I would abolish that a minute? I mean, why don't you tell me, let me ask you that question. Would you, if you were president, would you end elections? I would try for sure. I would make a pass at it. I don't know if I could go through with it. If somebody opposed me, I would try and put them in jail.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Well we've already had that in this country. That's kind of very 2004. Honestly, that's kind of sad of you. I would have thought you would have been more innovative than that. Like public executions. Oh, well that's part of the reputations. Torture. No, no.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You know in El Salvador they're building special prisons for the corrupt politicians. Can you only imagine how much fun it would be for you to do your show out of the special gulag for the deep state? That could be good, but the problem is once they get rid of me, once they flip me to the, once they get somebody else in power, then whatever I set up I'm gonna be put in so if I do public executions that's where I'm headed you know what that's probably what built strong institutions over time the fear that people would get power surrender it and then not want to be exposed to the most extreme circumstances that's true but then again
Starting point is 00:05:21 you could make the point that if you publicly execute everybody Then there's nobody to then oppose you or ever flip you to the other side to get executed But we you know we tried that shit in in our interventionist wars of the early 2000s George Bush Thought that he could execute his way to control of the Middle East and the truth of the matter is ah dude What the fuck is this really dude, what the fuck? Is this really a dude? Is this really, oh, that's not, that's actually not a mannequin. You thought what was under there was not real?
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Starting point is 00:06:44 Wow! So cool! Money! Money! Money! Petron I'm gonna give away these pair of glasses. Wow dollars money money money money money money money so I think that you can't I think that when you try to persuade people by the sword exclusively it gets pretty problematic down the road what do they have to pay you to do this bro who are you talking to are you going schizophrenic well I I've been accused of worse but can I ask a question about that go at it man I'll wait till later okay if Trump is Homelander are you the deep if he's Homelander do you get the reference I don't it's all from the Amazon show the
Starting point is 00:07:42 boys bro I don't watch a lot of television i can be honest with you so the homelander in the situation will be trump is the one incomplete power in you would be the deep the very cool guys i could have very strong in on on his side as well i could get down with that reference i i talked to the dj t earlier today he's doing great crushing it for the country uh... and it it kind of feels like we won and we're actually getting the benefits of that
Starting point is 00:08:08 Which for a lot of my life and yours we haven't to be honest Yeah even when we feel the sugar high of thinking we won an election or got a little power and never got Converted to our purposes and you know on on my show you talked about how there's a lot of people who feel Pretty down and out as a result of the way culture has gone and job opportunities have gone and college admissions have gone. And I think Trump gives us a sense that we're going back to a meritocracy.
Starting point is 00:08:38 We're going to be a productive country. And we're going to crush it, even for this dude. Who? You know. Is this the way you show prep, homie? Cause it's like the- He's writing the notes? Well yeah, because it's very unzoomer of you. And like you're kind of a zoomer king,
Starting point is 00:08:53 and the notion that the way you show prep is hand to paper pad, it's kind of retro. Oh, I'm printing this out. No, you're not. You're actually conducting a show off of the written word, which is a throwback. You want to hear another one? Let it roll. Would you say this podcast is at least the second time you've met with a 17-year-old?
Starting point is 00:09:17 Well, probably since I've been 17. Look, man, I don't know. Or 35. Pound it on that. No, that's not my uh... it's on my scene i was listen here's what here's what you gotta know when you accumulate a little bit of power and use it to challenge other power centers
Starting point is 00:09:33 they fuck with you they do everything they can to uh... delegitimize you and discredit you and i've endured that but here's the thing no one's ever made that allegation against me in a court of law and you know why i didn't make that i didn't make any i'm just asking questions chillin on a pod i don't want to get sued yet but you know what if anybody did make that
Starting point is 00:09:51 allegation in a court of law i would have subpoena power i could cross-examine witnesses and uh... it would be exposed for the fraud that was all i was just asking is there a legal case going on or some accusation here listen and the house ethics committee didn't like the fact that I was trying to change Congress. I was trying to get stock trading out of Congress. I fired the House Speaker, which is-
Starting point is 00:10:13 Some might have said, I heard that you did that because you wouldn't shut down that whole case. Listen man, I've been investigated by the Justice Department, the FBI. I've been investigated by everybody on the planet Earth and no one could bring a case against me and so they didn't like my politics. They didn't like the fact that at times- Wasn't he also a Republican? Sure, but by the way, that is how you know I was actually real when I served in Congress
Starting point is 00:10:40 because I didn't just call out the other side, I called out my own side and there's plenty of corruption on both sides what happened you said even if you're republican if you don't take down dot thing that they said about me i'm going to get really now that's not what i said what i said is if you don't stop trading stocks if you don't drop stop spending our country into debt if you don't stop uh... with the endless surrender and failure theater that we've seen in washington
Starting point is 00:11:04 then I'm gonna try to find a different way to do things in this town. And so because I did that, and look you know why? I'm the only motherfucker up there who didn't take the lobbyist money and the PAC money. Every other Republican up there took money from the lobbyists and took money from the political action committees. And I didn't and they did and I was a threat to that system and so they had to get rid of me. So that's why they said that happened? Yes absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:29 The whole thing? Well let's piece bump on that and then you did it. I did not do it. Well you just fist bumped on that. Well I fist bumped on the fact that I was falsely accused Matan. Of what? I don't know if you were accused of anything. I was just asking a random question.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Sounds random and I like the show prep. Yes. I was just asking a random question sounds random and I like the show prep yes I was just doing some research how much do corporations typically pay congressmen to pass laws that they like I would say to get your bill before a committee it's typically about a hundred thousand hundred thousand to get it to the floor is seven hundred and fifty thousand and to really have the presiding officers lower their shoulder and get it through five million and up but who do you donate the money to what it would be a political so so it's knowing where to donate the money to is actually something you pay people to
Starting point is 00:12:21 teach you but for any particular piece of legislation there is a reference path you're going to go to the armed services committee on military things the judiciary committee on legal things the environmental committee on environmental things so you got to pay off those people along the way and then and then if you really want the job done rather than just failure theater you have to pay off the house speaker
Starting point is 00:12:43 the majority leader warning some people get suspicious clear paying different party all but it's legal it's it's actually uh... by the way no one even questions that because everybody does it and that was my main criticism is that's why they brought up on i actually thought it would get it would fucking matter if the republicans or the democrats won the election because i thought the policies would be different what i learned over time is that both sides
Starting point is 00:13:05 at the highest levels are working for the same special interests that are paying their tax exemptions their particular uh... business model embraced by an element of government that i saw for the interruption of the let you know that today's episode is sponsored by ground rules for example i was using ground News recently to research about that astrum lad in Greenland who was fired after their email godly criticizing JD Vance.
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Starting point is 00:14:02 us, so I was able to get you guys 40% off the same unlimited access vantage plan that I've been using. Do you have your own wing girl like Giseline Maxwell? My wing girl is my wife, Ginger. You met her as we rolled in. No, I'm talking about for like a couple of years back. No, no, no. She was the one Venmo-ing the girls. Well, I don't know anything about that. What I know is... No, nothing. Nothing about that.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Oh, nothing. My scene is as a happily married guy. And what I tell you as an unmarried guy is marriage is tremendous and A lot of young men your age need to know it when you marry someone you level up in life you You break through an element of happiness and Existence that is pretty spectacular. So I recommend it highly that's a good way to Get off of that question. So but you didn't because then now I know you're married But how long have you been married for I've been married going on four years, man Oh, I'm talking like ten years back. Well ten. Listen, I lived the full arc of life as a single man
Starting point is 00:15:17 I make no apologies for it. No, I don't know when I was a single guy. I had I did everything I could to be a kind generous Gentle person to everyone I spent time with and you know what man you know what you know who you can't interview on this podcast Who is that anybody who's ever talking shit about me in public anybody who's ever fucking dated me will not come on your show and Talk shit about me. You know what I was nice to all of them. You know what I was accused of?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Spending money on chicks I was dating, which I actually think doesn't make me a bad guy. I think that made me a good guy. Oh, I never said it made you a bad guy. I was just asking- Well, there are other people who do. There are other people who do. Yeah, I was just- By the way, you take the derogatory reference when you want to bring up a Jelaine Maxwell.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Oh, I was just asking if you had somebody dealing with it. Yeah, I never met that person. I don't know anything about that model. You know what the model I know is? When you- and all young men out there should see this. When you date someone as a man, buy them dinner. Open the door to their car. Open the door to the restaurant. Pay them for sex. Listen man, not Not the game that was my game. That's some people's game. I never said there was anything bad about it if you did it, which you might have.
Starting point is 00:16:28 No, I definitely didn't. And by the way, if I had, Muntan, listen, I was the biggest thorn in the side to the Biden administration. I fucked with these guys every day. I fucked with these guys every day. If I had done what you just said, they would have had me under the jail.
Starting point is 00:16:43 They would have absolutely crucified me the jail they would have they would have absolutely crucified me what is going on back here I don't know I think you're starting to see things first he started with that thing under your table and now something's going on back here and I I don't know what kind of weird cult following you generate here but it's got some pretty interesting characters to it. It's a fan of mine. Yeah you got a lot of them. Yeah. What do Charlie Sheen and Magic Johnson have in common? Well they probably both fucked people with AIDS. HIV. Yeah. Well I don't know that they do and I don't know that that Charlie Sheen does. He does. He does. He has HIV. It's tragic.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I pray for him. Yeah they both have AIDS. Well Magic Johnson beat AIDS. By the way did Magic Johnson ever really have AIDS? I don't know. Well I know he has HIV. I don't know if he got to the next level gay. I don't think that your gayness is what takes HIV to AIDS. Well that's how. I think it's the progression of the disease. Do you think Magic Johnson was gay? I thought he was just tagging a lot of tail, but like not gay stuff. Well then how could he have HIV? Well because actually people can get HIV through non-gay sex. That's not true. Really? Okay, we'll see how that goes. You can only get HIV if you're gay and to
Starting point is 00:18:01 get AIDS it's like a video game. You have to keep trying, you have to keep going up the levels and then once you hit level 2 then you get AIDS. I think that that would defy science and logic and about like 40 years of longitudinal data. I have somebody conducting research on my behalf. This is the statue he brought me. If I'm wrong that's fine but this is what I've heard very very clever caveat yes I would like to buy one of your eyes how much will I have to pay you for one of your eyes they're not for sale for any amount I use them like daily I use them all the time I can't just one of them no but I need them both because my wife is hot so I want to see you with both of them yeah but you could still see her like
Starting point is 00:18:48 this I don't want to though and I just can't like I already have some money so I don't really need resources I had a question about that your father sold his company for about a hundred million dollars can he please give me some money I don't think you need any based on what I've seen I mean you're struggling a little bit tell me about that what are your struggles I don't have a hundred million dollars that's your struggle yeah well I mean you've got a sweet place in West Hollywood no you've got a highly successful YouTube channel you've turned some very charismatic moments into a characterized brand I think you know i'm not a character not to monster
Starting point is 00:19:27 i said it was a carry-on hero not gay or not in we wish the best for you in that regard is it a coincidence that you look exactly like handsome jack handsomest handsome jack uh... i've always been told i look like Leonardo DiCaprio if he was having an allergic reaction to shellfish um that's also can you take off your hat and your glasses for a second so I can see yeah you got it can you see it like I like a puffy Matt Damon you know you do look like those ones too but also
Starting point is 00:20:02 handsome Jack okay I'll take it. Yeah. You don't know who that is? I don't. I'm sure you'll get the reference. You're kind of like him too. Well, you'll get the reference eventually. I have a feeling it's not overly favorable. It's not horrible.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I mean, people thought he was a pretty good villain. Should a crazy animal missing its frontal lobe be allowed to vote? No. Then why do we keep allowing women to vote? Well, the Constitution demands it. Yeah, but they're fucking with the Constitution anyways and that wasn't part of the OG version. Do you think women have great reverence for the Constitution? No.
Starting point is 00:20:42 What's your basis for that view? I don't think they have great reverence for the constitution no i don't know what your basis for that view i don't think they have great reverence for uh... two plus four and why why is that they might give you the answer and they might tell you five knowing the answer is six but just to say five to get you to make a problem no i i uh... i appreciate that dynamic you almost said you agree i said i appreciate the dynamic.
Starting point is 00:21:06 You're putting your hat back on because you don't even want to be seen talking to a guy saying something like that or do you agree with me? Well look, here's what I know. If you look at the actual data about women in voting, we win married women overwhelmingly, single women not so much on the right. And so you kind of wonder, what is it about marriage that changes your life? Well, you have a different perspective on the future. You have a different perspective on asset accumulation, family. And there are
Starting point is 00:21:36 a lot of single women out there who are not receptive to the Republican message. I wish that weren't true. I wish that they were, but after they get married they find our argument a lot more compelling. So maybe just more women ought to get married. Yeah, but then again once they get married assuming that they're getting married, just I guess in my ideal world, they're getting married to a man otherwise it's outlawed. Then anyways the man is gonna vote Republican. No, it's not outlawed. I'm saying in my ideal world. Yeah, but if they marry women it's outlawed then anyways the man is gonna vote Republican. No it's not outlawed. I'm saying in my ideal world. But yeah if they marry women it's allowed. No. Well it is now. Right you wouldn't allow that? Going back to me being president no I wouldn't but I'm not homophobic. Why why do you care? Just just for fun. Just the outrage.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That seems unnecessarily cruel. Yeah, but cruel to people that I don't... It's technically cruel, but it's more like winning a game. But what's the purpose of winning the game if the method of achievement is cruelty? Well, no, no, no. That's the point of me winning the game if the method of achievement is cruelty. Well no no no that's the point of me winning the game. Is cruelty? In disregard yeah. Well that sounds like a very unpleasant game and I probably wouldn't play it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Well. Speaking of unpleasant games. What happened? Well you're homie down here. Who? I mean this thing in this I don't know you got a weird How does it feel to be in the top 1% of creators on cameo? alongside EDP 445 and lavar ball I
Starting point is 00:23:20 Love cameo. Yes. I think cameo is awesome. I am mostly in service of Like dude group chats fantasy football and baseball leagues and bachelor party trips. I give a lot of messages of encouragement to them. Now do you just take any cameos or? No, no, no. I filter them pretty good. Here's my principle test. You have Ghislain telling which ones to do and not to do. I have never met that person and I reject that model thoroughly.
Starting point is 00:23:47 But on Cameo, I look at whether or not it is lighthearted and for joy or whether it is meant for meanness and cruelty. And if it is meant for meanness, I do not do it. What would be an example of that? Well some people want me to just like talk bad about other people that they know in their life and there's not a good-natured ribbing to it it's just negative. So if somebody sent you a cameo asking to say something really nasty about their their father you wouldn't do it? No if they wanted like me to give a good-natured roast of their
Starting point is 00:24:20 father I probably would but if they just had daddy issues that probably how can you tell it unless you know the person personally which i i read the prompt and i make an assessment based on the prompt by the way uh... co-host mike can you please go i think the michelin star sent me a text message is food is ready for mat yeah i have a i see the other no nothing's on.
Starting point is 00:24:47 He's cooking in there. You don't see that Japanese guy cooking in there. I did not see a Japanese guy. I did see a homeless guy outside doing some drugs. And I saw surprising. No. And I saw some influencers in the wild outside your house, like taking pictures and doing this place, not of your place, but just generally like on my way here in West Hollywood. It is West Hollywood so it's not super surprising. I think I said this on your show but down the street to the right and then a little bit backwards there will just be gay dancers out in public. What purpose is that serving? Are they just evil you talking why somebody is evil it's just the way they are I don't think we get do you think being gay is evil anyways um I don't I don't know I didn't know I I don't anyway well you seem to suggest that is it the dancing that's evil well the public stuff it's a
Starting point is 00:25:41 little weird because I mean even me I'm 17. 17. Anyways, it's a little bit weird because I have to pass them I get uncomfortable. Okay, that's fair. I probably get uncomfortable too. Frankly I got uncomfortable around the influencers and the drug addicts too. Did you say hi to them? No, I did not. You should have joined their video.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I was like 3 minutes late to get here. That's true. But I wouldn't have minded. That would have been a funny tick tock to see Matt Gaetz with 3D. See, we talked about this. I can't be on tick tock. You have a different perspective on this. You're a China critic. You don't like this. I hate him power. You have spoken out for people. What if they were filming for Instagram? I mean, I, you know what what I've stopped signing in Instagram because the only thing I ever see on the algorithm is like women in bikinis so there must be something wrong with it and so like five years ago I got off Instagram. I think the recommended is based on what you watch but I mean yeah. I
Starting point is 00:26:38 don't know I think it must have been something wrong I think that I it was just showing me these women in bikinis all the time So I stopped looking at what do we got here from your co-host Michelin star? Oh, what's this? Michelin star seafood from the Japanese guy. Yeah What kind of fish is this sushi it appears to be Is this a mullet He brought you some utensils to please if you want to eat it. I eat on the way here. Oh really? Yeah I'm good. Have a bite. No. Why is that? Well it doesn't look very good and I'm full. He's a Michelin star. I don't know, first of all there's no Japanese guy back there, there's just a few of your like teenage buddies second
Starting point is 00:27:27 that looks like a rock piece of Low grade fish for anybody watching. There's a Japanese guy on one of those he bought you bring him out bring him out No, he doesn't want to be on camera. Okay. Okay. It's an it's an imaginary Do you have imaginary friends other than the Japanese you You're the one talking to somebody on the floor, which well because he's there Which is I don't see nothing. Well, I think you should check that out. Maybe your co-host does Do you want some you can have some I Think he's gesturing it being for you. He probably is but I'm gonna I'm gonna take a respectful pass a respectful pass on that Who would be on your Mount Rushmore of presidents? I'm going to take a respectful pass on that.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Who would be on your Mount Rushmore of Presidents? Andrew Jackson. Triple H. I would have probably Ronald Reagan on the list. I would have Grover Cleveland. uh The grover cleveland And I would have great white hope donald trump, yes And jd vance coming up on deck. He's so he's the one besides donald that you want to totally he's the next one How could you not?
Starting point is 00:28:41 I mean, I don't know actually know that much about him, but I think I would support him based off what I've seen I think you would too How can we help America restore its golden age before the 1860s? I see what you did there. Yes. Yeah, that's very clever I don't know that before the 1860s is what we would consider America's gold. That was the time Yeah No I I think I think you're just trying to be provocative
Starting point is 00:29:05 because you're referencing a time before the Civil War when slavery was rolling on. What I would say is that golden age is- No, I'm not. The war fucked up the economy. You're so clever, but Tom. Many people died. I would say that the golden age is upon us
Starting point is 00:29:18 and Donald Trump is gonna have the right economic policy and the right immigration policy and the right- Shoot down the 13th amendment I Don't even think that's how you deal with amendments is shooting them is that we say sniper Do you have you ever shot a gun? Yeah, you got some you got some nats in you you ever shot a gun but Tom you don't strike me as a guy kind Of got shot a lot of guns
Starting point is 00:29:46 I got him he's right there. Do you want me to put it on your fish no it's like that he's not alone there's plenty of those homes rolling around I can make you I can have the Michelin star guy make a that's another one you know there's a lot of them let's move on is it possible RFK jr. was the one who killed JFK? It is not. He would have been considerably too young at the time. Why is that? We have learned a lot about that over the last few days about who killed JFK. We've learned. It was RFK I think. You are wrong. The CIA and FBI concealed substantial amount of information regarding foreign interests. June, you're June, you're June. I knew it was them the whole time.
Starting point is 00:30:37 That was good. That's a good play on words. I'm not making a joke. I knew it was them. Finish what you were saying, please. I apologize about my outburst. No. You know what? Your out it was them. Finish what you're saying please I apologize about my outburst. No, you know what your outburst was delightful. Hey guys sorry for the interruption I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Mando. Mando is a deodorant company that I've worked with in the past to tell you a little bit about them. The deodorant is there for the whole body meaning that you can put it on your arms on your legs wherever you think you're smelling bad. If something is smelling bad in your house, like a table, you can use deodorant on there.
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Starting point is 00:32:01 free shipping. That's ShopMando.com. S-H-O-P-M-A-N-D-O and it's called Matan to get $5 which is about 40% off a starter pack. Thank you to Mando for sponsoring today's episode. If a portal to the underworld appeared on earth, who would the Chinese side with? I'd like to say earth because Han Chinese is the default setting for the human species But I'm not sure there's a lot that they support that lends to the underworld Like what well slavery the Chinese have Embraced slavery as a production model. That's something they're still doing. Yes. I'm a little jealous
Starting point is 00:32:43 No, you're not you've been critical of it. You explicitly have been critical. Oh I'm critical of China but not that part. What part are you most critical of? Probably the concentration camps. Well I mean what's the distinction between that and slavery? One is killing and the other is a stable job well i would push back strongly i think that they're both killing in their own way why do you say dot
Starting point is 00:33:12 workers slavery is no life it's it's horrendous it's uh... bondage it's the original sin of humankind do Do you support Gates marriage? I do support Gates marriage. Tell me a little bit about that. Well I met her at Mar-a-Lago and her she was from California and she told me that I didn't have a chance with her and then California locked down and Florida remained open. So even though I wasn't that impressive a guy, I could get a super impressive California wife through Gates marriage during covid.
Starting point is 00:33:57 No, get gay marriage like a man in a man. Oh, no. Well, that I don't know. Listen, I have no objection to two dudes getting married. Really? I personally don't. I don't think the government should be involved in marriage. Would you officiate it? Would I officiate a gay marriage? I've never been asked. I'll be honest with you. If you were, would you say yes? Are you asking me, Matan? Is there someone special in your life? No, I'm asking if you would do it, not if you will officiate my gay marriage. I don't think that that's something I would ever be asked to do.
Starting point is 00:34:30 If you were, you might get a request now after this episode. I don't think that's likely. What if they asked for a cameo? Would you do it? For a gay marriage? What I'd do? A cameo for a gay marriage? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:44 That's a great question. I'd have to think about that. Uh... You know what? I probably would. You would? I probably would. Would you give them a discount for the marriage or would you upcharge them? Full, just regular price. And how much do you usually charge?
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's like 250 bucks. 250? Yeah. When will liberals stop trying to destroy the Constitution first it was the 13th amendment and now they're trying to abolish the first one I Think that you're not even that big a fan of the Constitution based on some of your commentary As I said, I'm a fan of the OG one I as I said I'm a fan of the OG one the one from the 1700s that had some flaws and the good news about that Constitution is it gave us ways to reform it and make changes as our sensibilities evolved I mean he might
Starting point is 00:35:38 have allowed that but I think we should have just stuck with it I think we probably shouldn't have because of the way it treated people based on their immutable characteristics. I think it's totally fair. Where's your money? When I asked you about how you kind of choose your targets for this little enterprise you got going, you said you make an assessment of people and if you think they're too full of themselves and think they're high above others, you bring them down to earth. That's been what you put out there.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I think that's totally fair. What's not fair is when you treat people differently based on immutable characteristics. I think that was a flaw that we have revised in the Constitution over time. When you say immutable characteristics you mean something like eye color, skin color. Well wouldn't it hypothetically be that if somebody is arrogant they are born sort of with the mind to achieve something like that? No I actually think that any person can be kind and giving and generous. I don't believe that the circumstances of your birth
Starting point is 00:36:48 or your genetics give you a permission structure to be a dick. Yeah. Instead of Greenland, why don't we buy that irradiated part of Japan? It will be much cheaper. Right, but Greenland is such a better value prop. You're gonna understand this as you acquire more assets in life.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Greenland has national security value. Yeah, but if we buy that thing in Japan, then we'll save some money. We can turn it into a museum. Well, sure, bro, but instead of you and I doing this interview in West Hollywood, we were doing it in Compton, you would have saved saved money but it wouldn't have been the same experience and Greenland is a very different experience than a radiated Japan. Yeah but the Japanese people are pretty nice they brought you a nice meal but even besides that... There's no Japanese people here unless this homie is which I can't tell because
Starting point is 00:37:38 he's got his rig on. But even besides that beautiful Michelin they brought you I mean Japanese guy they're not brought you, I mean, Japanese guy, they're not much different than, I mean, they are very different, but not on, if I was to rate a scale of person, how nice they are that different from people from Greenland. How many people from Greenland do you know? I've met a couple. There's only like 50 something thousand of them in total or 60,000. I think there might be more.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That's how many live in Greenland. Oh. Well I hope they choose to be a part of the United States and we would welcome them. I think the issue is the country that's controlling it. I forget which one. Is it Denmark? The Dutch. The Dutch or the Netherlands? No it is Denmark, you're right. Yeah. Whoops. We're not cutting that out. I can only imagine. No, you're right. Yeah, it's Denmark.
Starting point is 00:38:31 They own Greenville. Who do you think is more honest between you and the honorable George Santos? Me, for sure. Why is that? He's the honorable one. I think I am too, actually. I think that that's technically my title. I'm just kidding you guys are both pretty crazy liars. No I don't know I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:38:53 What have I lied about? Something we talked about earlier you might have lied. What I'm in trouble for is telling the truth. Not exactly. What do you think I've lied about? Lay it out there. What's your evidence? You've accused me of something. What's your evidence? I didn't accuse you of anything. You said I might have been a liar.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I said you might. That's not an accusation. It most certainly is. To say somebody might be a liar. Sure. I'm not saying you are a liar. I'm saying you might be a liar. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Well, if you, I tell you what, if you zero in on anything that suggests I haven't been honest with you, you let me know and we'll discuss it I have one thing but I don't I don't know are we thinking the same one I wasn't thinking anything I'm a pretty truthful guy I'm Oh Stops there I Don't know well, I'll tell you man like I said earlier those allegations about me were dis what allegations Well, you counted to 17 on your finger. So you're making you're making it you're making a reference to a false allegation I didn't do anything like that okay I didn't why would you know who's the liar because
Starting point is 00:40:09 I just watched you do it I was I was doing stretching exercises with my fingers how often you stretch your fingers but for some reason I can't get this next one up here well if you can't get the next one up you're gonna have bigger problems later on in life. What can I do one other stretching exercise with my fingers? How many did you count I wasn't counting Okay, we'll move on Would the u.s. Be better off if we elected more super villains like you into the government? I'm not a super villain. I'm aain. I'm a honest, hardworking dude who fought for my constituents.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Have you figured out how to use that inner web thing on my jig? Inner web? That internet thing on the lab computer. What are you talking about? The online stuff. Oh, the internet? Yeah, I know how to use the internet. don't know what do we do well I use it for I use like chat GPT to answer a bunch of questions and I use grok I use X grok what is that one grok is Elon's AI
Starting point is 00:41:18 tool that have you ever met him I have how we see in real life he is a brilliant guy cares a lot about the country. I think that he feels deeply committed to make humans a multi-planetary species. He saw the government as a principal barrier to that objective and so he endeavored to change the government which he has and now he's got substantial influence to do good things for us. Did you have like a dinner with him or something? I think we mostly met without food. We were mostly working together as Trump was coming into office and we were trying to design features of the government that would work for the people.
Starting point is 00:42:00 So you spent some time with him though? Yeah. I was going to say that's surprising. I thought he had to spend all of his time on that Path of Exile game. No, no. He's a good video game player, but he uses his time well. Yes. Would it be possible for me, with your help, to open a massive casino in the Congress building? What would be the games you would want to have in that casino? Blackjack, roulette, poker. No, not not poker that's a little bit of a skilled game i
Starting point is 00:42:27 want to make it just my my style craps yeah craps now we're getting the ones i don't know see with your help here well i just thought it's important because the different games that you have in a casino reflect a different license structure that you have to have one is in vegas one is on the Native American land? On Native American land there's class one gaming, class two gaming, class three gaming. I thought they were allowed to do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:42:52 No, no, no, they have to have a compact with the state government in which the tribal land is held and then they can have gaming and cash register. At what point will we stop pretending to care and just take back that lens too I mean what are we doing well in some places we should on the border on the border where Native American tribes are allowing illegals and is that something that's happening oh to a massive extent well and those lands we actually probably should take back or we could just do something like we did with that part of Japan what if we irradiate
Starting point is 00:43:28 the border well then that would affect a lot of our own people and that would probably be bad no we'll move them into a nicer city it can't be that nice down there there are places along the border and Yuma and in San Diego but just a really small part like we're gonna that's not how radiation works, man. It spreads. You can't just... We'll get a Einstein level guy and he'll compact it into a space about as wide as from here to the end of that and we'll do that across the entire border. I don't think that you would be able to contain the radiation. Why?
Starting point is 00:44:02 Because radiation spreads. What if we build a wall around it? Well I think that it would interact with the air and the water in a way that would be pretty negative to the people around. Oh I have a solution. We put fans on the US side and we'll blow it there so the Mexicans can get irradiated. Yeah the promise that is no longer a problem wins down there in the yuma area that would be stronger than your fans not if we build really big fans will show me the fans and then you would support the casinos and what i thought we're talking about radiation
Starting point is 00:44:40 well it was all divergent from one to the next one seem to be. Now I already asked you a question earlier about the president's but how how many years assuming that it was in constitutional breaking and everybody was okay with it would you want long neck to serve? Who's long neck? Long neck he's the next guest coming in in about two minutes. I don't know him. You don't know Long Neck?
Starting point is 00:45:08 He's that guy on Instagram. I told you man, I haven't been on Instagram in years. Oh that's true, but he's from back in the day when you were on it. He had that one guy attack him or something and then he has a long neck. Like Schiff, the California guy? The pencil the pencil neck guy no he has a way longer neck okay would you like what a shift from like here to here yeah about that so then long neck would be like from here to here that's a huge neck yeah that's why he's coming in two minutes it's an incredible we have to end the
Starting point is 00:45:40 episode here because long neck is now here well I appreciate you having me on yes thanks for coming on I appreciate you having me on yes Thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. Yes, always a pleasure That was a fun episode if you want you can take your Michelin with you. I don't want you don't you want to bring that with you? Back to your place. No, I'm good, man, and you're a champ. Thanks for coming on You have any final message? It's a little late for that

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