The Matan Show - Matan Finally Confronts Matt Gaetz About His Allegations
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hello everybody welcome back to the park outside of this guest we have my date
welcome in
you can come see in the middle now please
what
he's up in hollywood for today's co-host we have mike please welcome in mike
you're doing like
thanks for being here today.
Good to be with you.
It's been a delightful ride out here.
Please in case anybody doesn't know you, introduce yourself and a little bit about that.
I was in Congress for eight years and then Donald Trump nominated me to be the top cop
in the world.
That didn't work out so well so now I make a television show in San Diego California called the Mac 8 show and you were in Congress in Florida I
represented Florida but I was in Washington DC but the the folks who were
my bosses were the good people of Florida okay and by the way we're gonna
cut this out but at some point we have a Michelin star chef in the kitchen he
will bring you a dinner and then you can eat it if you would like.
You have a Michelin star chef?
How do you, where do you find those?
I had to hire him.
This guy down here, he's not here.
Oh dude, that's so weird how the eyes move.
How do you, that's, yeah, you're an odd bird.
What's with the co-host?
That's Mike
Why is Mike? Does Mike have kovat? Oh
No, that's just religious reasons. Really is Mike Muslim
He might be he hasn't said anything when I asked him fine. You know what we accept all kinds
He's not gonna do anything weird is he I don't believe sunglasses
Same ones. Yeah. I don't think he'll try and do anything
weird. Okay. He'll just be there. Okay. If I want to get in the government, do I have
to support Israel? You know, the Israel lobby has an incredible power over the decisions
that government makes, and what we've seen is on the left or on the right,
if you question the policies of the Israeli government,
legitimately, people will accuse you of anti-Semitism.
And that is weird and wrong and kind of unlike anything else
we see anywhere else.
Now, there are legitimate expressions of concern regarding the anti-Semitism that
we see on college campuses, but I got to tell you, no one's asked me the question that directly
and the truth is, if you oppose the U.S.-Israel relationship, you face tremendous headwinds
to get into government, not just appointed government, but elected government as well.
Dude, it's moving.
What is?
The thing.
It's got eyeballs that raise their eyelids.
Who would you rather be president, the Eye of Cthulhu or Skeletron Prime?
Neither.
Why not?
I love the current one we have. Oh I know but once he's four
years or gone I'm a big fan of the great white hope as well. After that I'm for JD Vance.
But in this circumstance the Eye of Cthulhu or Skeletron Prime, JD Vance
let's say his run is eight years. Alright after JD Vance I'm going like Marco
Rubio. Marco's run his eight years now too.
Then after that, I'm going Ron DeSantis.
Now he's run his eight years.
Me.
Eight years.
You.
Eight years.
I think by then they're not going to be around, Matan.
Those are-
By the way, at the end of your eight years-
One of them is a robot.
At the end of your eight years, I'm not sure there even will be elections anymore.
Why?
What do you think will happen?
I think you have tendencies that favor the concentration of power.
What do you mean?
Well, you understand the centers of power, and that's why you challenge them, which is
kind of why I'm a fan of yours, is because you understand that the way you get attention
on stuff is to get eyeballs on it. And so you develop these eccentric ways to get eyeballs on information and then you inject
that information into a pretty broad bloodstream.
So you're saying once I had control, I would give it up?
I would abolish that a minute?
I mean, why don't you tell me, let me ask you that question.
Would you, if you were president, would you end elections?
I would try for sure.
I would make a pass at it.
I don't know if I could go through with it.
If somebody opposed me, I would try and put them in jail.
Well we've already had that in this country.
That's kind of very 2004.
Honestly, that's kind of sad of you.
I would have thought you would have been more innovative than that.
Like public executions.
Oh, well that's part of the reputations.
Torture.
No, no.
You know in El Salvador they're building special prisons for the corrupt politicians.
Can you only imagine how much fun it would be for you to do your show out of the special
gulag for the deep state?
That could be good, but the problem is once they get rid of me, once they flip me to the,
once they get somebody else in power, then whatever I set up I'm gonna be put in so if I do public executions that's where
I'm headed you know what that's probably what built strong institutions over time
the fear that people would get power surrender it and then not want to be
exposed to the most extreme circumstances that's true but then again
you could make the point that if you publicly execute everybody
Then there's nobody to then oppose you or ever flip you to the other side to get executed But we you know we tried that shit in in our interventionist wars of the early 2000s George Bush
Thought that he could execute his way to control of the Middle East and the truth of the matter is ah dude
What the fuck is this really dude, what the fuck?
Is this really a dude?
Is this really, oh, that's not,
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You thought what was under there was not real?
I thought that was a mannequin.
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can't I think that when you try to persuade people by the sword
exclusively it gets pretty problematic down the road what do they have to pay
you to do this bro who are you talking to are you going schizophrenic well I
I've been
accused of worse but can I ask a question about that go at it man I'll
wait till later okay if Trump is Homelander are you the deep if he's
Homelander do you get the reference I don't it's all from the Amazon show the
boys bro I don't watch a lot of television i can be honest with you so the
homelander in the situation will be trump is the one incomplete power
in you would be the deep the very cool guys i could have very strong in
on on his side as well
i could get down with that reference i i talked to the dj t earlier today
he's doing great crushing it for the country
uh... and
it it kind of feels like we won and we're actually getting the benefits of that
Which for a lot of my life and yours we haven't to be honest
Yeah
even when we feel the sugar high of thinking we won an election or got a little power and never got
Converted to our purposes and you know on on my show you talked about how there's a lot of people who feel
Pretty down and out as a result of the way culture has gone and job opportunities have gone
and college admissions have gone.
And I think Trump gives us a sense
that we're going back to a meritocracy.
We're going to be a productive country.
And we're going to crush it, even for this dude.
Who?
You know.
Is this the way you show prep, homie? Cause it's like the-
He's writing the notes?
Well yeah, because it's very unzoomer of you.
And like you're kind of a zoomer king,
and the notion that the way you show prep
is hand to paper pad, it's kind of retro.
Oh, I'm printing this out.
No, you're not.
You're actually conducting a show off of the written word, which is a throwback.
You want to hear another one?
Let it roll.
Would you say this podcast is at least the second time you've met with a 17-year-old?
Well, probably since I've been 17.
Look, man, I don't know.
Or 35.
Pound it on that.
No, that's not my uh... it's on my scene
i was listen here's what here's what you gotta know
when you accumulate a little bit of power and use it to challenge other
power centers
they fuck with you
they do everything they can
to uh...
delegitimize you and discredit you and i've endured that
but here's the thing
no one's ever made that allegation against me in a court of law and you
know why i didn't make that i didn't make any i'm just asking questions chillin on a
pod i don't want to get sued yet but you know what if anybody did make that
allegation in a court of law i would have subpoena power i could cross-examine
witnesses
and uh... it would be exposed for the fraud that was all i was just asking is
there a legal case going on or some accusation here listen and the house
ethics committee didn't like the fact that I was trying to
change Congress.
I was trying to get stock trading out of Congress.
I fired the House Speaker, which is-
Some might have said, I heard that you did that because you wouldn't shut down that whole
case.
Listen man, I've been investigated by the Justice Department, the FBI.
I've been investigated by everybody on the planet Earth and no one
could bring a case against me and so they didn't like my politics.
They didn't like the fact that at times-
Wasn't he also a Republican?
Sure, but by the way, that is how you know I was actually real when I served in Congress
because I didn't just call out the other side, I called out my own side and there's plenty
of corruption on both sides what happened you said
even if you're republican if you don't take down dot thing that they said about
me i'm going to get really now that's not what i said what i said is if you
don't stop trading stocks if you don't drop stop spending our country into debt
if you don't stop
uh... with the endless surrender
and failure theater that we've seen in washington
then I'm
gonna try to find a different way to do things in this town. And so because I
did that, and look you know why? I'm the only motherfucker up there who didn't
take the lobbyist money and the PAC money. Every other Republican up there
took money from the lobbyists and took money from the political action
committees. And I didn't and they did and I was a threat to that system and so they had to get rid of me.
So that's why they said that happened?
Yes absolutely.
The whole thing?
Well let's piece bump on that and then you did it.
I did not do it.
Well you just fist bumped on that.
Well I fist bumped on the fact that I was falsely accused Matan.
Of what?
I don't know if you were accused of anything.
I was just asking a random question.
Sounds random and I like the show prep. Yes. I was just asking a random question sounds random and I like the show prep yes I was just doing some research how much do
corporations typically pay congressmen to pass laws that they like I would say
to get your bill before a committee it's typically about a hundred thousand
hundred thousand to get it to the floor is seven hundred and fifty thousand and to really have the presiding officers
lower their shoulder
and get it through five million and up
but who do you donate the money to what it would be a political so so it's
knowing where to donate the money to is actually something you pay people to
teach you
but for any particular piece of legislation
there is a reference path you're going to go to the armed services committee on military
things the judiciary committee on legal things
the environmental committee on environmental things
so you got to pay off those people along the way
and then and then if you really want the job done rather than just failure theater
you have to pay off the house speaker
the majority leader warning some people get suspicious clear paying different party
all but it's legal it's it's actually uh... by the way no one even questions
that because everybody does it
and that was my main criticism is
that's why they brought up on i actually thought it would get it would fucking
matter if the republicans or the democrats won the election
because i thought the policies would be different what i learned over time is
that both sides
at the highest levels are working for the same special interests that are
paying
their tax exemptions their particular uh...
business model embraced by an element of government
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My wing girl is my wife, Ginger. You met her as we rolled in.
No, I'm talking about for like a couple of years back.
No, no, no.
She was the one Venmo-ing the girls.
Well, I don't know anything about that. What I know is...
No, nothing.
Nothing about that.
Oh, nothing.
My scene is as a happily married guy. And what I tell you as an unmarried guy is marriage is tremendous and
A lot of young men your age need to know it when you marry someone you level up in life you
You break through an element of happiness and
Existence that is pretty spectacular. So I recommend it highly that's a good way to
Get off of that question. So but you didn't because then now I know you're married
But how long have you been married for I've been married going on four years, man
Oh, I'm talking like ten years back. Well ten. Listen, I lived the full arc of life as a single man
I make no apologies for it. No, I don't know when I was a single guy. I
had I
did everything I could to be a
kind
generous
Gentle person to everyone I spent time with and you know what man you know what you know who you can't interview on this podcast
Who is that anybody who's ever talking shit about me in public anybody who's ever fucking dated me will not come on your show and
Talk shit about me. You know what I was nice to all of them. You know what I was accused of?
Spending money on chicks I was dating, which I actually think doesn't make me a bad guy.
I think that made me a good guy.
Oh, I never said it made you a bad guy.
I was just asking-
Well, there are other people who do.
There are other people who do.
Yeah, I was just-
By the way, you take the derogatory reference when you want to bring up a Jelaine Maxwell.
Oh, I was just asking if you had somebody dealing with it.
Yeah, I never met that person. I don't know anything about that model.
You know what the model I know is? When you- and all young men out there should see this. When you date someone as a man,
buy them dinner. Open the door to their car. Open the door to the restaurant. Pay them for sex.
Listen man, not
Not the game that was my game. That's some people's game.
I never said there was anything bad about it
if you did it, which you might have.
No, I definitely didn't.
And by the way, if I had, Muntan, listen,
I was the biggest thorn in the side
to the Biden administration.
I fucked with these guys every day.
I fucked with these guys every day.
If I had done what you just said,
they would have had me under the jail.
They would have absolutely crucified me the jail they would have they
would have absolutely crucified me what is going on back here I don't know I
think you're starting to see things first he started with that thing under
your table and now something's going on back here and I I don't know what kind
of weird cult following you generate here but it's got some pretty interesting characters to it. It's a fan of mine. Yeah
you got a lot of them. Yeah. What do Charlie Sheen and Magic Johnson have in common? Well
they probably both fucked people with AIDS. HIV. Yeah. Well I don't know that they do
and I don't know that that Charlie Sheen does. He does. He does. He has HIV. It's tragic.
I pray for him. Yeah they both have AIDS. Well Magic Johnson beat AIDS. By the way did
Magic Johnson ever really have AIDS? I don't know. Well I know he has HIV. I don't know
if he got to the next level gay. I don't think that your gayness is what takes HIV to AIDS.
Well that's how. I think it's the progression of the disease. Do you think Magic Johnson
was gay? I thought he was just tagging a lot of tail, but like not gay stuff.
Well then how could he have HIV? Well because actually people can get HIV through
non-gay sex. That's not true.
Really? Okay, we'll see how that goes. You can only get HIV if you're gay and to
get AIDS it's like a video game. You have to keep trying, you have to keep going up the levels and then once you hit level 2 then you get AIDS.
I think that that would defy science and logic and about like 40 years of longitudinal data.
I have somebody conducting research on my behalf. This is the statue he brought me.
If I'm wrong that's fine but this is what I've heard very very clever caveat yes I would like
to buy one of your eyes how much will I have to pay you for one of your eyes
they're not for sale for any amount I use them like daily I use them all the
time I can't just one of them no but I need them both because my wife is hot
so I want to see you with both of them yeah but you could still see her like
this I don't want to though and I just can't like I already have some money so
I don't really need resources I had a question about that your father sold his
company for about a hundred million dollars can he please give me some money
I don't think you need any based on what I've seen I mean you're struggling a little bit tell me about
that what are your struggles I don't have a hundred million dollars that's
your struggle yeah well I mean you've got a sweet place in West Hollywood no
you've got a highly successful YouTube channel you've turned some very
charismatic moments into a characterized brand I think you know i'm not a character not to monster
i said it was a carry-on hero not gay or not in
we wish the best for you in that regard
is it a coincidence that you look exactly like handsome jack
handsomest handsome jack
uh... i've always been told i look like Leonardo DiCaprio if he was
having an allergic reaction to shellfish um that's also can you take off your
hat and your glasses for a second so I can see yeah you got it can you see it
like I like a puffy Matt Damon you know you do look like those ones too but also
handsome Jack okay I'll take it. Yeah.
You don't know who that is?
I don't.
I'm sure you'll get the reference.
You're kind of like him too.
Well, you'll get the reference eventually.
I have a feeling it's not overly favorable.
It's not horrible.
I mean, people thought he was a pretty good villain.
Should a crazy animal missing its frontal lobe be allowed to vote?
No.
Then why do we keep allowing women to vote?
Well, the Constitution demands it.
Yeah, but they're fucking with the Constitution anyways and that wasn't part of the OG version.
Do you think women have great reverence for the Constitution?
No.
What's your basis for that view? I don't think they have great reverence for the constitution no i don't know what your basis for that view
i don't think they have great reverence for uh... two plus four
and why why is that they might give you the answer and they might tell you five
knowing the answer is six but just to say five to get you
to make a problem
no i i uh...
i appreciate that dynamic you almost said you agree
i said i appreciate the dynamic.
You're putting your hat back on because you don't even want to be seen talking to a guy
saying something like that or do you agree with me?
Well look, here's what I know.
If you look at the actual data about women in voting, we win married women overwhelmingly,
single women not so much on the right.
And so you kind of wonder, what
is it about marriage that changes your life? Well, you have a different perspective on
the future. You have a different perspective on asset accumulation, family. And there are
a lot of single women out there who are not receptive to the Republican message. I wish
that weren't true. I wish that they were, but after they get married they find our argument a lot more compelling. So maybe
just more women ought to get married. Yeah, but then again once they get married
assuming that they're getting married, just I guess in my ideal world,
they're getting married to a man otherwise it's outlawed. Then
anyways the man is gonna vote Republican. No, it's not outlawed. I'm saying in my ideal world. Yeah, but if they marry women it's outlawed then anyways the man is gonna vote Republican. No it's not outlawed. I'm saying in my ideal world. But yeah if they marry women it's allowed. No.
Well it is now. Right you wouldn't allow that? Going back to me being president no
I wouldn't but I'm not homophobic. Why why do you care? Just just for fun. Just the outrage.
That seems unnecessarily cruel.
Yeah, but cruel to people that I don't...
It's technically cruel, but it's more like winning a game.
But what's the purpose of winning the game if the method of achievement is cruelty?
Well, no, no, no. That's the point of me winning the game if the method of achievement is cruelty. Well no no no that's the point of me winning the game.
Is cruelty?
In disregard yeah.
Well that sounds like a very unpleasant game and I probably wouldn't play it.
Well.
Speaking of unpleasant games.
What happened?
Well you're homie down here.
Who?
I mean this thing in this I don't know you got a weird
How does it feel to be in the top 1% of creators on cameo?
alongside EDP 445 and lavar ball I
Love cameo. Yes. I think cameo is awesome. I am mostly in service of
Like dude group chats fantasy football and baseball leagues and bachelor party trips. I give a lot of messages of encouragement to them.
Now do you just take any cameos or?
No, no, no.
I filter them pretty good.
Here's my principle test.
You have Ghislain telling which ones to do and not to do.
I have never met that person and I reject that model thoroughly.
But on Cameo, I look at whether or not it is lighthearted and for joy or whether it
is meant for meanness and cruelty.
And if it is meant for meanness, I do not do it.
What would be an example of that?
Well some people want me to just like talk bad about other people that they know in their
life and there's not a good-natured ribbing to it it's just negative. So if somebody sent you a
cameo asking to say something really nasty about their their father you
wouldn't do it? No if they wanted like me to give a good-natured roast of their
father I probably would but if they just had daddy issues that
probably how can you tell it unless you know the person personally which i i
read the prompt and i make an assessment based on the prompt
by the way uh...
co-host mike can you please go i think the michelin star sent me a text message
is food is ready for mat
yeah i have a i see the
other no nothing's on.
He's cooking in there. You don't see that Japanese guy cooking in there.
I did not see a Japanese guy. I did see a homeless guy outside doing some drugs.
And I saw surprising. No. And I saw some influencers in the wild outside your
house, like taking pictures and doing this place, not of your place, but just
generally like on my way here in West Hollywood. It is West Hollywood so it's not super surprising. I think I said this on your show but down the street to the right and then a little bit backwards there will just be gay dancers out in public. What purpose is that serving? Are they just evil you talking why somebody is
evil it's just the way they are I don't think we get do you think being gay is
evil anyways um I don't I don't know I didn't know I I don't anyway well you
seem to suggest that is it the dancing that's evil well the public stuff it's a
little weird because I mean even me I'm 17. 17.
Anyways, it's a little bit weird because I have to pass them I get uncomfortable.
Okay, that's fair.
I probably get uncomfortable too.
Frankly I got uncomfortable around the influencers and the drug addicts too.
Did you say hi to them?
No, I did not.
You should have joined their video.
I was like 3 minutes late to get here. That's true. But I wouldn't have minded. That would have been a funny tick
tock to see Matt Gaetz with 3D. See, we talked about this. I can't be on tick tock. You
have a different perspective on this. You're a China critic. You don't like this. I hate
him power. You have spoken out for people. What if they were filming for Instagram? I
mean, I, you know what what I've stopped signing in Instagram because
the only thing I ever see on the algorithm is like women in bikinis so
there must be something wrong with it and so like five years ago I got off
Instagram. I think the recommended is based on what you watch but I mean yeah. I
don't know I think it must have been something wrong I think that I it was
just showing me these women in bikinis all the time So I stopped looking at what do we got here from your co-host Michelin star? Oh, what's this?
Michelin star seafood from the Japanese guy. Yeah
What kind of fish is this sushi it appears to be
Is this a mullet
He brought you some utensils to please if you want to eat it. I eat on the way here. Oh really? Yeah I'm good. Have a bite. No. Why is that? Well it doesn't look
very good and I'm full. He's a Michelin star. I don't know, first of all there's no Japanese
guy back there, there's just a few of your like teenage buddies second
that looks like a rock piece of
Low grade fish for anybody watching. There's a Japanese guy on one of those he bought you bring him out bring him out
No, he doesn't want to be on camera. Okay. Okay. It's an it's an imaginary
Do you have imaginary friends other than the Japanese you You're the one talking to somebody on the floor, which well because he's there
Which is I don't see nothing. Well, I think you should check that out. Maybe your co-host does
Do you want some you can have some I
Think he's gesturing it being for you. He probably is but I'm gonna I'm gonna take a respectful pass a respectful pass on that
Who would be on your Mount Rushmore of presidents? I'm going to take a respectful pass on that.
Who would be on your Mount Rushmore of Presidents?
Andrew Jackson.
Triple H. I would have probably Ronald Reagan on the list.
I would have Grover Cleveland. uh
The grover cleveland
And I would have great white hope
donald trump, yes And jd vance coming up on deck. He's so he's the one besides donald that you want to totally he's the next one
How could you not?
I mean, I don't know actually know that much about him, but I think I would support him based off what I've seen
I think you would too
How can we help America restore its golden age before the 1860s?
I see what you did there. Yes. Yeah, that's very clever
I don't know that before the 1860s is what we would consider America's gold. That was the time
Yeah
No
I I think I think you're just trying to be provocative
because you're referencing a time before the Civil War
when slavery was rolling on.
What I would say is that golden age is-
No, I'm not.
The war fucked up the economy.
You're so clever, but Tom.
Many people died.
I would say that the golden age is upon us
and Donald Trump is gonna have the right economic policy
and the right immigration policy and the right-
Shoot down the 13th amendment
I
Don't even think that's how you deal with amendments is shooting them is that we say sniper
Do you have you ever shot a gun?
Yeah, you got some you got some nats in you you ever shot a gun but Tom you don't strike me as a guy kind
Of got shot a lot of guns
I got him he's right there. Do you want me to put it on your fish no it's like that he's not
alone there's plenty of those homes rolling around I can make you I can have
the Michelin star guy make a that's another one you know there's a lot of
them let's move on is it possible RFK jr. was the one who
killed JFK? It is not. He would have been considerably too young at the time. Why is that?
We have learned a lot about that over the last few days about who killed JFK. We've learned.
It was RFK I think. You are wrong. The CIA and FBI concealed substantial amount of information regarding foreign interests.
June, you're June, you're June. I knew it was them the whole time.
That was good. That's a good play on words.
I'm not making a joke. I knew it was them.
Finish what you were saying, please. I apologize about my outburst. No. You know what? Your out it was them. Finish what you're saying please I apologize about my outburst.
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sponsoring today's episode. If a portal to the underworld appeared on earth, who would the Chinese
side with? I'd like to say earth because Han Chinese is the default setting for the human species
But I'm not sure there's a lot that they support that
lends to the underworld
Like what well slavery the Chinese have
Embraced slavery as a production model. That's something they're still doing. Yes. I'm a little jealous
No, you're not you've been critical of it. You explicitly have been
critical. Oh I'm critical of China but not that part. What part are you most
critical of? Probably the concentration camps. Well I mean what's the
distinction between that and slavery? One is killing and the other is a
stable job
well i would push back strongly i think that they're both killing in their own
way
why do you say dot
workers slavery is no life
it's it's horrendous it's uh...
bondage it's the original sin
of humankind do Do you support Gates marriage?
I do support Gates marriage. Tell me a little bit about that. Well I met her at
Mar-a-Lago and her she was from California and she told me that I didn't
have a chance with her and then California locked down and Florida remained open.
So even though I wasn't that impressive a guy, I could get a super impressive California wife through Gates marriage during covid.
No, get gay marriage like a man in a man. Oh, no.
Well, that I don't know. Listen, I have no objection to
two dudes getting married. Really? I personally don't. I don't think the government should
be involved in marriage. Would you officiate it? Would I officiate a gay marriage? I've
never been asked. I'll be honest with you. If you were, would you say yes? Are you asking
me, Matan? Is there someone special in your life? No, I'm asking if you would do it, not
if you will officiate my gay marriage.
I don't think that that's something I would ever be asked to do.
If you were, you might get a request now after this episode.
I don't think that's likely.
What if they asked for a cameo?
Would you do it?
For a gay marriage?
What I'd do?
A cameo for a gay marriage?
Yes.
That's a great question. I'd have to think about that.
Uh...
You know what? I probably would.
You would?
I probably would.
Would you give them a discount for the marriage or would you upcharge them?
Full, just regular price.
And how much do you usually charge?
It's like 250 bucks.
250?
Yeah.
When will liberals stop trying to destroy the Constitution first it was the 13th amendment and now they're trying to abolish the first one I
Think that you're not even that big a fan of the Constitution based on some of your commentary
As I said, I'm a fan of the OG one
I as I said I'm a fan of the OG one the one from the 1700s that had some flaws and the good news about that Constitution is it gave us ways to
reform it and make changes as our sensibilities evolved I mean he might
have allowed that but I think we should have just stuck with it I think we
probably shouldn't have because of the way it treated people based on their immutable characteristics. I think it's totally
fair. Where's your money? When I asked you about how you kind of
choose your targets for this little enterprise you got going, you said you
make an assessment of people and if you think they're too full of themselves and
think they're high above others, you bring them
down to earth.
That's been what you put out there.
I think that's totally fair.
What's not fair is when you treat people differently based on immutable characteristics.
I think that was a flaw that we have revised in the Constitution over time.
When you say immutable characteristics you mean
something like eye color, skin color. Well wouldn't it hypothetically be that if somebody
is arrogant they are born sort of with the mind to achieve something like that? No I
actually think that any person can be kind and giving and generous.
I don't believe that the circumstances of your birth
or your genetics give you a permission structure
to be a dick.
Yeah.
Instead of Greenland, why don't we buy
that irradiated part of Japan?
It will be much cheaper.
Right, but Greenland is such a better value prop.
You're gonna understand this as you acquire more assets in life.
Greenland has national security value.
Yeah, but if we buy that thing in Japan, then we'll save some money.
We can turn it into a museum.
Well, sure, bro, but instead of you and I doing this interview in West Hollywood, we
were doing it in Compton, you would have saved saved money but it wouldn't have been the same experience and Greenland
is a very different experience than a radiated Japan. Yeah but the Japanese
people are pretty nice they brought you a nice meal but even besides that...
There's no Japanese people here unless this homie is which I can't tell because
he's got his rig on. But even besides that beautiful Michelin they brought you
I mean Japanese guy they're not brought you, I mean, Japanese guy, they're
not much different than, I mean, they are very different, but not on, if I was to rate
a scale of person, how nice they are that different from people from Greenland.
How many people from Greenland do you know?
I've met a couple.
There's only like 50 something thousand of them in total or 60,000.
I think there might be more.
That's how many live in Greenland. Oh. Well I hope they choose to be a part of the United States and we would
welcome them. I think the issue is the country that's controlling it. I forget which one.
Is it Denmark? The Dutch. The Dutch or the Netherlands? No it is Denmark, you're right. Yeah.
Whoops.
We're not cutting that out.
I can only imagine.
No, you're right.
Yeah, it's Denmark.
They own Greenville.
Who do you think is more honest between you and the honorable George Santos?
Me, for sure.
Why is that?
He's the honorable one.
I think I am too, actually.
I think that that's technically my title.
I'm just kidding you guys are both pretty crazy liars. No I don't know I'm kidding.
What have I lied about? Something we talked about earlier you might have lied. What I'm
in trouble for is telling the truth. Not exactly. What do you think I've lied about?
Lay it out there.
What's your evidence?
You've accused me of something.
What's your evidence?
I didn't accuse you of anything.
You said I might have been a liar.
I said you might.
That's not an accusation.
It most certainly is.
To say somebody might be a liar.
Sure.
I'm not saying you are a liar.
I'm saying you might be a liar.
Okay.
Well, if you, I tell you what, if you zero in on anything that suggests I haven't been
honest with you, you let me know and we'll discuss it I
have one thing but I don't I don't know are we thinking the same one I wasn't
thinking anything I'm a pretty truthful guy I'm
Oh
Stops there I
Don't know well, I'll tell you man like I said earlier those allegations about me were dis what allegations
Well, you counted to 17 on your finger. So you're making you're making it you're making a reference to a false allegation I didn't do anything like that okay I didn't why would you know who's the liar because
I just watched you do it I was I was doing stretching exercises with my fingers how often
you stretch your fingers but for some reason I can't get this next one up here well if
you can't get the next one up you're gonna have bigger problems later on in life. What can I do one other stretching exercise with my fingers?
How many did you count I wasn't counting
Okay, we'll move on
Would the u.s. Be better off if we elected more super villains like you into the government?
I'm not a super villain. I'm aain. I'm a honest, hardworking dude who
fought for my constituents.
Have you figured out how to use that inner web thing on my jig?
Inner web?
That internet thing on the lab computer.
What are you talking about?
The online stuff.
Oh, the internet?
Yeah, I know how to use the internet. don't know what do we do well I use it for I use like chat GPT to answer a
bunch of questions and I use grok I use X grok what is that one grok is Elon's AI
tool that have you ever met him I have how we see in real life he is a
brilliant guy cares a lot about the country. I think that he feels deeply committed to make humans a
multi-planetary species. He saw the government as a principal barrier to
that objective and so he endeavored to change the government which he has and
now he's got substantial influence to do good things for us. Did you have like a dinner with him or something?
I think we mostly met without food.
We were mostly working together as Trump was coming into office and we were trying to design
features of the government that would work for the people.
So you spent some time with him though?
Yeah.
I was going to say that's surprising.
I thought he had to spend all of his time on that Path of Exile game.
No, no. He's a good video game player, but he uses his time well.
Yes. Would it be possible for me, with your help, to open a massive casino in the Congress building?
What would be the games you would want to have in that casino?
Blackjack, roulette, poker. No, not not poker that's a little bit of a skilled game i
want to make it just my my style craps
yeah craps
now we're getting the ones i don't know see with your help here
well i just thought it's important because the different games that you have in a casino
reflect a different license structure that you have to have
one is in vegas one is on the Native American land?
On Native American land there's class one gaming, class two gaming, class three gaming.
I thought they were allowed to do whatever they want.
No, no, no, they have to have a compact with the state government in which the tribal land
is held and then they can have gaming and cash register.
At what point will we stop pretending to care and just take back
that lens too I mean what are we doing well in some places we should on the
border on the border where Native American tribes are allowing illegals
and is that something that's happening oh to a massive extent well and those
lands we actually probably should take back or we
could just do something like we did with that part of Japan what if we irradiate
the border well then that would affect a lot of our own people and that would
probably be bad no we'll move them into a nicer city it can't be that nice down
there there are places along the border and Yuma and in San Diego but just a
really small part like we're gonna that's not how radiation works, man. It spreads. You can't just...
We'll get a Einstein level guy and he'll compact it into a space about as wide as from here to the end of that
and we'll do that across the entire border.
I don't think that you would be able to contain the radiation.
Why?
Because radiation spreads. What if we build a wall around it? Well I
think that it would interact with the air and the water in a way that would be pretty
negative to the people around. Oh I have a solution. We put fans on the US side and we'll
blow it there so the Mexicans can get irradiated. Yeah the promise that is no longer a problem wins down there in the yuma
area that would be stronger than your fans
not if we build really big fans will show me the fans and then you would
support the casinos
and what i thought we're talking about radiation
well it was all divergent from one to the next one
seem to be. Now I
already asked you a question earlier about the president's but how how many
years assuming that it was in constitutional breaking and everybody
was okay with it would you want long neck to serve? Who's long neck? Long neck he's
the next guest coming in in about two minutes.
I don't know him.
You don't know Long Neck?
He's that guy on Instagram.
I told you man, I haven't been on Instagram in years.
Oh that's true, but he's from back in the day when you were on it.
He had that one guy attack him or something and then he has a long neck.
Like Schiff, the California guy? The pencil the pencil neck guy no he has a way
longer neck okay would you like what a shift from like here to here yeah about
that so then long neck would be like from here to here that's a huge neck yeah
that's why he's coming in two minutes it's an incredible we have to end the
episode here because long neck is now here well I appreciate you having me on
yes thanks for coming on I appreciate you having me on yes
Thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. Yes, always a pleasure
That was a fun episode if you want you can take your Michelin with you. I don't want you don't you want to bring that with you?
Back to your place. No, I'm good, man, and you're a champ. Thanks for coming on
You have any final message?
It's a little late for that