The Matan Show - Matan Gets Heated While Confronting Jeffrey Epstein

Episode Date: June 21, 2026

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Nice meeting you. For today's co-host, we have Mike. Welcome in Mike. So if you could just pull the mic close to yourself and then introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you, but I doubt that that's very many. Thanks for having me here, Mattan. I'm Palm Beach Pete. Nice to meet everyone. And so you're not Epstein. No, not Epstein. Palm Beach Pete. He's not. Palm Beach Pete. He's, he, he's, He's dead. I'm a better looking version than him. No, you look identical. I thought you guys are the same guys. That are not true? No, he's dead. I'm me.

Was your plan always to pretend to kill yourself and then reappear a few years later as your own lookalike? I wish I was that smart. Would you kill yourself? If I was accused, maybe, of what you got accused of, then I might so do it if I knew that I had the way to tinker myself into culture like you have done today. No, I'm just me. It just happened to look like him a little bit.

So you've looked like this all your life. I've gotten older over the years. And your job now is kind of being a social media influencer. Yeah. Do you prefer that over like banking and all that other stuff? You know, it's a third career for me, so it's a lot of fun. And I'm just having a blast, and it's very interesting meeting guys like you. Like me?

Yeah, no, seriously, Matan, you guys are amazing. You're brilliant. What you do, what you're able to create, because everyone's trying to do it. But you've risen to the top, and I'm hanging with you guys, so it's a fucking bad. I appreciate it. Do you prefer this over banking and all the blackmail stuff or because this is a little calmer or you had more power back then? So you kind of... I like them both. But this is fun because my age, how many guys get to do what I'm doing? Nobody. It's a good point. How old are you now? 71. I don't think Epstein would be 71 and I believe you're him. Thanks. He'd be about 73, 74, I guess, somewhere around there. See, that just seems like a lie. Seems like you're just pulling off a couple of years. No. I'm being completely.

seriously. He's older, for sure. Okay. How much money are you making off Cameo right now? And should the money be used to help your victims and their families? I actually give money to charity. I didn't want to be associated with Epstein victims because that would be drawing attention to people thinking I'm Epstein and I'm not. So I give it to a charity. But you are. Okay. And anyhow, I give it to a charity that I'm involved with. But why don't you give the money directly to your victims instead of just a generalized charity? because then it might go to somebody who didn't experience something as bad or as monumental. Well, I'm not him, so I don't have to give to the victims.

We don't have to do this game the whole time. I'm actually honored that you decided to do this as one of your first few years back. I appreciate that your eyesight's not that good, and you think that I'm him, but I'm not. You appreciate it? No, I appreciate that you have me here. Well, because you're Epstein. No, I'm not. It's almost like unbelievable.

Do you really see that much of a resemblance? Seriously. Do you see a resemblance of me and myself? I see who you are, but I'm asking, do you think I really look like him? Well, I was just giving you an example of the same question. Do I look like an identical twin to him? You are him?

Do I look like an identical twin to him? I guess technically, if I don't have an identical twin, but if I did. I actually have a twin. You do? I do. I have a twin brother. Epstein? Gary.

Gary? Yeah. All these names are super simple. You know what I mean? Jeffrey, Pete, Gary. That's how they named people back in the 50s. No. Those were the names.

I know a guy who had a completely different name. But those are very popular names back in the day. Do you deserve the death penalty? No. Why? Because I haven't done anything wrong. I mean, if you want to say that those things are okay, then that's fine, but... It's funny.

So what do you think? I know we don't really do the death penalty now. I think it's been like 10 years, but... It's not relevant because I'm Palm Beach Pete. I'm having a fucking blast doing what I'm doing. I get to meet guys like you, so it's not... that relevant at all. But meeting guys like me doesn't overdo all of those things. I mean, I don't know which ones you were found guilty of, obviously, you died before we really got to know.

He did die. He did die. He's terrible. He's terrible that he died? He said he died. Yeah, it's terrible. I said died. Yeah, you said died. With quotation marks. And also, you said it was terrible. See, you're even sleeping up. That's like a Freudian right there. He died. It was terrible. You wouldn't say that about somebody that's not yourself, especially if they were like a mass raced. Well, no, you're saying that I'm him and he died, it would be terrible if I died. That's my point. So you are him? No. So then why would it be terrible? I don't want to die.

I didn't say you died. I said he died. I don't want to die. Just the idea of Epstein dying to you whether you're not terrible? No, it's terrible what he did. No, that's not what you said it about. I understand. You're saying what he did was also terrible. Horrific, horrible, vile human

being he was. And did you ever meet him? I didn't meet him personally, but he was at a party that I attended. I doubt that. It is sad, though, that he may have done. Withdrawn! That's your lawyer, by the way. Okay, thanks.

What's my lawyer's name? You should know that, no, over me? Why would I know? I've never met him before. Maybe he's just one of the court-appointed people. I wouldn't hire a lawyer wearing this costume. Why? Because this doesn't look like a lawyer to me.

Why? Why not looking like a lawyer? He doesn't look lawyer. He has a suit on? Nah, not happening. Objection attorney-client privilege. She sounds like a lawyer. Yeah, he does.

You have been accused of being an undercover agent for Mossad. What is your response to these allegations? You know, since on Palm Beach, Pete, in 2005, I went to Israel for the first time to play in a Jewish competition called the Maccabi games, which I'm sure you're aware of. And my first round opponent actually was the head of the Mossad. Is you a joke or you're serious? Dead serious. Okay, well, that's not at all what I meant when I said that, but you're... Fucking, guy, a fucking piece of shit, rabbi.

Sorry, go ahead. No, you're about to say something. Counsel is mischaracterizing the evidence? No, I'm not. That's not true at all. He just said that he played him. I couldn't play the head of Mossad. That was my first round opponent. I didn't get to choose my opponent.

It's done out of... When I meant that you were an undercover... agent. I mean, with all of the blackmail that you got on, like, U.S. and other foreign politicians along with celebrities. Palm Beach Pete hasn't been an undercover agent. He's a retired real estate executive. And a banker? No, I was never a banker. How did you get all that money? Where did you get all that money from to buy that house in New York? What house in New York? You know, you don't know what house I'm talking about? You live there for so many years. It's a famous house. I lived on the Upper West Side. In New York? Yes. So you're telling me that this guy, Palm Beach Pee, that you're

pretending to be. He's also a guy who lives in New York. Palm Beach Pete lives in Palm Beach. But he was born in New York. Before I became Palm Beach Pete, I was just Peter, and I lived on the Upper West Side, dude. I don't believe it for a second. That's cool. Okay, well, I'll just entertain this for a second. You played the head of Mossad in a tennis match?

Motie was his name. And how was that experience? Did you beat him? I kicked his ass. Withdrawn. Withdrawn what? My client denies these allegations. What allegations, counselor? What allegations?

He doesn't talk? Maybe the allegation that you beat him? The head of Mossad? That's what the allegations were withdrawing. So why did you play? Was he a professional in tennis or he used his Mossad ranking to get to play? I played the Maccabi games. It's a Jewish Olympics, which you're aware of.

Why would I be aware of? that. Because I think you're Jewish, aren't you? I thought you were Jewish. No. What are you? Now, I'm German. Okay. I was always German, but now I'm just not Jewish. Gotcha. Anyhow, it's a four year, every four years in Israel, and I played, because I wanted to win gold medals. And where did you visit in Israel? What cities? I only, the games where I were playing were in Tel Aviv, I went to Jerusalem and that was it. Where did you go in Jerusalem? I went to the wall, you know, the wall, and I went to a restaurant, and that was about it. a lot of time because I was competing and winning all my matches.

You know, if you're going to pretend that you're not Epson, you might as well come up with a better lie. I mean, you went to the whaling wall in Jerusalem to play against the Mossad, man of Mossad? You're not listening. My matches were in Tel Aviv. I had one day off. You had one day off and you spent it going to the wall. And I went to Jerusalem. That sounds even worse. Why? Jesus Christ. Unless this is a whole play, you're trying to seem so bad at lying about it, then it may actually trick people. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. It's a little freaky. So are you some sort of demon or the savior of the world?

Neither. I'm just Palm Beach Pete. Assuming you died and you came back to life and you didn't just pretend to die. I have not died. You died? I have not. Okay. I'm here.

I was born in 1955. You are here. That's why I'm asking. And I haven't died. I'm here. I'm Palm Beach Pete. So you pretended? No, nothing to pretend.

Well, I was saying because you said that you never died. Correct. Assuming that you did. Would you be a demon or the savior of the world or how would it work? Because you'd be one of two people. Who am? What? You heard me?

Who am I assuming who I am? If you're a demon and the savior of the world, you'd probably know if you're one or the other. Who am I going to be to save the world or be a demon? I'd rather save the world than be a demon. That's probably what a demon would say was trying to trick us. Could be. Especially in the form of Epstein. Maybe actually if you're the savior of the world and you're also Epstein and you were

the savior this whole time. Then all of those things you did were actually good and we just don't know it yet because we're not on your level. I'll go back to my statement. He was a vile, horrible human being. He did nothing good. Objection. I am a silly clown. You said it, not me.

But why would you say such nasty things about yourself? I would never say anything nasty about myself. Self-fatriate is not good. We're in an era where men don't have to- You have to hate themselves. We have to hate themselves. We can go to therapy now like a little bitch. Epstein.

That's all I have to tell you. What did you even just say I didn't hear her because I was talking about. Oh, that's okay. I said he was a vile, horrible human being. Don't say that about yourself. I advise my client to answer that question, not to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate them. Okay, so we'll move on.

Thank you, counsel. I really appreciate it. Do you usually eat that weird brown stuff that comes out of your ass or leave it in that circular bowl filled with water that has a strange lever that makes it disappear? I'm not answering that question. I'm sorry. Why?

Because I like Italian food. I advise my client not to answer that question on the grounds that may incriminate them. What the hell would that incriminate him of? That's the one thing this guy has done in his whole life they wouldn't incriminate him. Although it's strange to pull the lever because it's weird.

That didn't exist naturally. We had to build it. Do you agree with me, Jeff? Palm Beach Pete, or you could call me Peter. Can I call you Jeff? No. Why? Because I'm not him.

But maybe I'm talking about a different Jeff. Maybe I'm talking about Jeffrey Samstein. Call me Peter, please. Thank you. But it's more fun for me if I get to call you Jeff. I know, I get you. I can't. I can't. He denies these allegations.

Thank you, Counsel. Thank you, Jeff. Correct. So I'll just use it as a nickname. I prefer Peter. That's my given name. Yeah, but you don't know. Wait, Matan, if you want to call me Jeff, I'll call you his.

How do you like that? We have a deal. You couldn't have made me a better offer. Wait. better I could call you M. My bro. You think you're insulting me? No, it's all good, bro. You're giving me a bigger compliment than you could ever imagine. Okay, I appreciate it. I like your content.

So will you call me H-N-M or one or the other? H&M. H&M, okay, Jeff. Like the store. Yeah, that makes sense. Is that who they named it after? Yeah, I don't know. No, I'm, no. Okay, back to the question about you eating the brown stuff. I'm not answering that question.

Why? Because I don't want to. Why don't you want to? I have my prerogative. I don't want to answer a ridiculous question. Why not? I get that that's your prerogative. I'm asking why.

We're going to level three. Level one is I don't want to. Level two is because I don't want to and level three is why don't you want to. Because it's a stupid-ass question. But why don't you like to answer stupid-ass questions? No pun intended. Because I'm too smart to answer stupid-ass questions and waste time on stupid-ass questions. And why can't smart people waste time on stupid-ass questions?

They know not to answer stupid-ass questions because it's wasted everybody's time. Because you used to have like billions of things. Billions of dollars, so you don't want to waste time answering questions like that. Is that true? I wish. So how much money do you have now? A couple shekels. All right, this is...

Are you joking with me, or is it just like you're actually so clearly Epstein... H&M. H&M, I have a roof over my head, and I get to eat and I wear clothes, and I wish I had billions of dollars. You know, I'm a retired guy. I'm 71 years old. I live my life simply. I thought you just said retired guy. Guy.

Just the accent you have. Guy. Yeah, I have that heavy New York accent. Like Epstein, he had a heavy New York accent. He was from Brooklyn. Yeah, I mean, changing an accent is tough. Wait, did you know we were from Brooklyn? Are you also from Brooklyn?

No. I was born in Manhattan, raised on Long Island. You were born in Brooklyn like Epstein? No, I was born in Manhattan. Not possible. Possible. Doctor's hospital. Where was Efsin born?

I don't know, but I'm assuming he grew up in Brooklyn, so he probably was born in a hospital. Now, why would somebody who's not Eftain know where he was born in a hospital in Brooklyn? Now, why would somebody who's not Efts know where he? They grew up, you know, all of these facts about him. Because there's press and you read about them. I don't know any of these things. I'm calling bullshit. And I'm a lunatic conspiracy theories.

I know. Are you Jewish? I am Jewish. You know what? That's a dumb question. Let's move on. Okay. Yeah.

Oh, wait, so you believe my theory. Don't waste time on dumb questions. Ding ding ding ding. Yeah, because I already know the answer. Okay. Why do I ask you? So it's a rhetorical question, right, Matton? Yes.

Thank you. Why did you ask that? You don't think I know what rhetorical means? I know you know what it's talking. I'm not a re-shard. No, don't insult re-shirts. I mean, why not? They don't understand it anyway.

Are they going to get upset about it? I don't know. They're only going to get upset about it if they think that you're upset about it. It's not a great word. I think mentally challenge is better. What about a mentally challenged re-hearted? No, you can't put that one in there.

But technically, it's true. They're mentally challenged, but they're re-shed. Some people are just mentally challenged. but all re-chards are mentally challenged. I just keep it. Not all mentally challenged people are re-heds, but all re-hs are mentally challenged. I agree with the first statement.

That statement I just made. No, the first one. You think there's re-chards that are not mentally challenged. They're just all there? I'm not sure. I think we can be pretty sure. I'm not a psychiatrist. A psychiatrist?

I mean, you don't have to even be four years old to notice that. That's why three-year-olds laugh at them when they see them in the grocery store. It's so sad, Matan. I don't like this. It's sad to. They don't even know what they're laughing at. It's sad for them.

It's like a dog. They think they're laughing because they're funny. They so have feelings. No, they don't. They do. They do but that of a bird. Okay. They just like the attention.

I noticed it. I used to run an organization. Really? What kind of organization did you run? We would put way too much food in their mouth and make them swallow it until they threw up. Oh, my goodness. They get tummy aches too. They do.

They have the same organs and stuff. That's what made each so fun. They go, Ah! And they will shake and scream. Awful. And then we'll put a muzzle on them so the police couldn't hear us. We did this.

Where did you grew up? That's probably something you did more than me. Why are you pretending you didn't do this? I grew up on Long Island. But you did it on a different island? Nah. I grew up on Long Island, which was right outside the city. Hey, guys, surf with an interruption.

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Celebrities such as Trump, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew Bill Gates. Privilege against self-incrimination will be answering the question. Oh, you have to answer it. Celebrities such as Trump, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew Bill Gates, and many others have been accused of sacked degeneracy and crimes related to you. For who is this true and what have they done? Well, personally, I don't know any of them. Yes, you did.

There's so many photos of it. I know. Photos of Jeffrey, who's dead and was a vile. But we just agree that you name is Jeff. As long as I made my man guy. You wanted to name me, Jeff, when I said I'm Peter. No, we made a deal. No, no, we never made it to.

Yes, we did. No, you're H&M and I'm Peter. No, you're Jeff and I'm here. I'm a B. I'm H&M and you're Peter. You can't go back on your deal now. Wait, you want to be Peter? No.

And I'll be an H&M? How about that? No, I'll be. I'll be... I'll be... No, I'm Peter. No, we didn't agree on your Peter. It's an attorney client privilege.

We're just like going back and forth and, like, let's get some real questions. Because you're avoiding all of my questions. If you weren't, if you really weren't, Jeff, why would you care to answer it? Why would there be such an issue with the questions? It's obvious that I'm not him. Why is that obvious? Because he died and there's an autopsy about him dead. That's probably the least obvious death that has ever happened in the history of the world.

And I know who I am and I have a birth certificate and we have a DNA test coming out and we did a lie detector test. And that's just the situation. But how do we know that this DNA test is not altered with? We had professionals come and we used the best DNA technicians and laboratory. But first you took the professionals to an island where they did horrible things and then they have to do what you say. Yeah, I'm from Long Island, and I'm from Palm Beach Island. And what about your island? What island is that? What was it called? I don't know what the name of the island is. You know, I'm running for mayor. I have a, I have an image to upheld, and Palm Beach Island,

I want to make a better island. Jeffrey Epstein is the mayor? No, Palm Beach Pete for the mayor. I thought you already owned that island. Why do you have to be the mayor of it? Palm Beach is a municipality. You don't have to make it. And it's not owned by anybody. And I'm running for mayor, and we have a great platform. Yeah, but why would you have to make your island a democracy and then run as mayor on it? That doesn't make any sense.

That's how government works. People get elected every four years. I think it needs to improve it. You get to decide when the elections are and if they happen on the island that you own. I wish I owned an island. I so wish I owned an island. Come on. Are we still pretending?

Listen, dude, if I won't do this the whole interview. If I owned an island, I wouldn't be here. I'd be on my island. Yeah, well, until they see it because of the horrible things you were doing with your bodies. You're laughing. It's funny to you? What happened on that island? It's funny? What happened to those children? I love your questions, even though they're inappropriately and grossly overstated and incorrect. I know. That's what the lawyer said.

That's why I have such a great lawyer here. Do you have Alzheimer's? How could you forget all of the terribly evil things that you have done? My mother had Alzheimer's. It's a terrible disease. I hope I don't have it. And I know who I am, and I know where I was raised, and I know where I live. You live now on Palm Beach. Because living in New York would be too obvious. No, I lived in New York for 45 years.

I loved New York. I had a great career in New York. I raised my family in New York. New York's the best city in the world. But I had enough in New York. I moved to Palm Beach. And where do you live in the summer? I'm out in the Hamptons, West Hampton Beach.

And where's the Hamptons? About 90 miles east of Manhattan. In what state? New York State. It's part of New York State. You should have done a better job covering this all up. Yeah, I should have. Should have done a better job,

especially if you want to deny it. Listen, if you're going to go for the play where you just act like you have so many similarities to him, you might as he'll just live in his house and go back to your island. Bro, let me ask you this question, H&M. Okay. Assuming. Real quick, though, I have to interrupt you.

Don't call me H&M. I want to go all the way. I'm here my B'clock. Okay. If I was that horrible, vile human being. I don't know if I'd go that far. Would I be out there parading myself doing shows like this, going to different events? You can't just walk around like this.

Having a cameo, having an Instagram, Facebook. Would I do that if I was him? Don't you think the authorities would have arrested me and brought me in for questioning? Lurie, what do you think of that question? you can talk it's okay dude to my understanding you kind of run the authorities because of all the blackmail

what black male my client invokes a privilege against self-incrimination and will be answering the question you will be answering the question I'm taking the fifth no he said you will and he's a lawyer it's okay I'm not paying him enough well he actually was appointed by what was the question let's see if I want to answer

or not I didn't even ask a question I don't know what the hell this dumb ass lawyer's talking about Finish what you were saying. You were saying something about how you're Epstein and you loved your island? No, I was not saying that. I was saying...

Guys, the gig is up. I don't have fucking time to do this anymore. I'm Epstein. Isn't that what you were just about to say? No, I wasn't even close to that. I was saying, assuming I was him, but I'm not because he was a vile, horrible human being. I wouldn't be parading around saying that I'm him.

But can I make a counterpoint? Can I finish? Yeah. Thanks, sorry. It's unfortunate that I have a slight resemblance to him, but I have nothing to do with him. I had my own life, and we made Palm Beach Pete an outgoing, fun guy

wanting nothing to do with that vile, horrible human being. Can I make a counterpoint? Sure, of course. If you were Epsine, which I believe you are... Yeah, it is. You actually would make an Instagram and pretend to do all these things to trick people, because if you just started walking around again

is Epsine, one of the most famous people of the last 50 years, then, I mean, it would be a huge shocker. But at first you convince people that you're this guy who looks like him, you've gotten away with it completely. So let me ask you this question. Why haven't I been approached by the authorities? Because you have blackmail on them.

I mean, that's a question that only you could answer, really. But at the end of the day... Why wasn't Epstein approached by the authorities? At the end of the day, he did... I mean, Palm Beach, Jeff. He did get caught. He was arrested. And he did go to jail

and he was in jail with a sweetheart deal from my understanding so eventually he did get caught. What's your understanding? You were the guy in the court I mean, what understanding do you have? According to my understanding

like you don't really know like, oh, I heard this from somebody, yeah, the fucking judge. I read it. You read it. You read it. And multiple newspapers, articles in magazines that he got a sweetheart deal

and it was like a release program. him in Palm Beach where he went to jail and he got to go out at night. But he was in jail. In Palm Beach? Yeah, he was. Give me a fucking break. I figured out what you're doing. Am I the only one smart enough to catch on to what's happening?

What's that? Okay, so you're telling me you and this guy are within years of age. You look exactly the same. You're both similarly, not exactly. Like, there's not even one difference because you're in. Do you know that we're different heights and different color eyes? No, you're not. Okay, but go ahead.

You have those weird little things in, and height. or maybe hide frauders. I don't know what they're called. I don't. And then he went to Palm Beach and then you went to Palm Beach. It's a popular place. It's a nice place to retire.

I don't know anybody from Palm Beach. You don't know anyone? How about Donald J. Trump? Yeah, your buddy. Your body, and I don't know him. We're tight, Donald. I. You know, we play golf.

And when we were playing a round of golf, you know, I told him. You met him. Oh, many times. We played lots of... Is Jeff for Pete? No. Our president.

We played many rounds of golf. And the last round of the golf I played with him, you know what I said to him? What? I'm meeting the coolest podcaster named Matan. And he says, I know Matan. Yeah. He knew of you. Yes.

Because he looks at the internet all day long. Right. What do you think about that, that the president knows you? I don't think that happened. No, it happened for sure. But let me ask you a quick question. You're saying... Slow question.

Give me slow questions because I have Alzheimer's. Okay. Did you meet Trump as Pete or Jeff? I met Trump As Palm Beach Pete his pal So coincidentally All this guy Palm Beach Pete is

And he kept on saying This guy Matan, I love his content What are you trying to like gas me up And he's like, okay, all right Pete All right Pete You're not Jeff I'm so happy I'm so happy I'm here with you hanging out

This is fun Okay I am having a lot of fun I'm surprised you decided to do this interview when you know that I was going to ask you about all the things you have done. I can handle myself. I'm 71 years old. I've been in a lot of hard-edged negotiations. This is not going to throw me off one iota.

It seemed like you were going to go to jail forever and then you got a sweetheart deal. So what is this to that? Who got a sweetheart deal? You. We just discussed it. Palm Beach Pete got a sweetheart deal? Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not him.

Can we tell you that? I like that name. I like that. But wouldn't that be accurate because? because Jeff lived there too. So technically there was a Palm Beach Jeff. It's accurate that he did have a residence. His house has been raised

and I moved down there after he died. It's true. No, it's not. I call baloney. Can I say that? I don't know what's the lawyer term. Baloney?

Malarkey. I call malarkey. Malarkey. Imagine in an alternate universe you had joined Cloud Gang and you were Cloudstein and you started dating Tessa Brooks, bro.

I don't know any of those people. Imagine that had happened. No, but I don't know who those people that you're referring to. Cloud Gang? What's Cloud Gang? With Rice Gamm and Face Banks? I don't know anything about it.

I'm sorry. Not familiar. Imagine that you had joined them. But I can't answer that question if I don't know who I'm answering about. You can still imagine it. Imagine what? Then you joined Cloud Gang is

and the other person you name me. If you join them, you would be CloudStee. But who are they? They're like these famous YouTube group from back in the day. I don't know. And imagine if you had joined. going them and there was also Cloud Beast. Cloud Scene and Cloud Beast along with the original

members, the original founders. I don't know them. Sorry. So now not only are they famous, now they are they as famous as you? A way more famous. How far back would the day start? 10, 20 years ago, some of them. So imagine these people who are very famous and have the eye of the young people now have the most powerful or one of the most powerful people in the world behind them in the same group. And who would that be? You're Jeffrey Epstein. I mean Palm Beach Pete? You're Palm Beach, yeah.

I'm very powerful and strong enough because of my social media presence. It's amazing. And they probably reached out to me because Palm Beach Pete is real. How much would somebody have to legally pay you to change your name back to Jeffrey Epstein? It's a good question. That was the best question you asked. I would never change my name back, forward, sideways, any direction. Because you already have not even just a lot of money.

My full name is Peter Bart Seymel. That's me. I have a birth certificate. We have DNA testing. We have a lie detector. I don't think I would take his name on. It has such bad connotation, obviously. Do you think that his name would be your biggest issue to having a correlation to him?

Or the fact that you have the same face? Can you imagine having that name? Jeffrey Epstein? Like, you have to make a cold call. He goes, hey, it's Jeffrey Epstein. Truly, I swear, if I was a name, that would be awesome. I need to get an appointment. You know, I'm in commercial real estate.

And they go like, clunk. No way. Yeah, but imagine how funny that would be. Butan, I wouldn't want any of those names. You don't want anything to do with him. Correct. Too late. Objection, attorney, client, privilege.

Thank you, brother, attorney. By the way, where'd you get the suit to see? Smash it. Where'd you get that suit, seriously? You have to tell me? Okay. You were insulting a suit earlier. like his soon.

No, now you were calling it earlier. He's a smart attorney. Yeah, yeah. Okay. What did you just tell you? Client warrior privilege. That's what he just said? No.

Or it's the privilege you don't have to tell me. Correct. What metric is used to determine if somebody is important slash famous enough to go to the island? I, for example, would love to go. Anyone is welcome on Palm Beach Island. No, no, no, no. It's an open island.

You have to go over two. bridges, the North Bridge and the South Bridge, and bam you're on Palm Beach Island, and I'm not talking about the Hampteons, and I'm not talking about Manhattan. I'm talking about that island you owned with that square house. I blue and the white one. I wish I owned that island. I wish you owned that island. I wish I owned that house. Because if somebody who's not Epstein, horrible things happen on that island. If I own that island, I wouldn't be here. Why? I'd be in Europe for the summer in St. Trope with some really beautiful women and just living life to the fullest. Yeah. I wouldn't say that.

They were pretty young. I don't know. I'm not in St. Trope. I don't know. You don't know. I don't have the island. I don't have billions of dollars. And if I did,

they took it from you. I wouldn't be hanging here. I'd be in St. Trope having the time of your life. But if you were in Trope having the time of your life and somebody snagged a picture of you. Yeah, yeah. Before you did this.

They go, hey, that's Palm Beach Pete. No, before you did this. I'm no. I'm no. I'm no. I'm no all over now because the internet has amazing power. You've been famous for like 30 years. I've only been doing this for

Almost three months. That's about it. I was leading a very simple retired life, Matan. And then a dude filmed me on I-95 referred to me as, he's alive, he's alive, he's alive. He was right. He's alive, he's alive. And my nephew and my marketing and manager guys. You have marketing and manager guys?

Yeah, sure. If you want to do the internet right. Correct. Oh, that doesn't sound like a bunch of fucking baloney to me. You know how that works. I don't have a marketing guy or a manager guy and I'm calling bullshit on that. I'm calling bullshit on that. I swear.

Besides viral flooring because he's been working with me from the day I started. Who's that? But he's not a marketing or manager guy. What if you do for you? Well, he's kind of, he's not even like a manager, really. He's my manager, but he kind of handles everything. He decides where I live. We decide what I get to eat.

We just wanted to do this professionally. We wanted to distance ourselves from a really bad human being, have fun with it. and it has blown up out of proportions. From Epstein. From that vile, horrible human being. Can ask you a question? And I'll just enter... One second, my lawyer is talking to me.

What if I'm talking to? And I'm going to interact with this as if you really are Palm Beach Pete and not Palm Beach Jeff. Appreciate it. If you truly are, do you think you have any even slight chance in the world to actually distance yourself from him? You know... Just give you some advice from an onlooker. Great question. No way.

So I would say 99% of the time when people recognize me, they go, yo, Palm Beach, Pete, we love you. You're the goat. You're the icon. We think you're great. We love your content. So my metric for measuring like who I am are real people in the street. What about all the people who see you and then you don't see them.

They're running. They're like, holy shit. I just think I'm not saying this like this. I only experience what I can experience. That's a good point. You wouldn't see this happening. I wouldn't see that happening. But do you sometimes see people very afraid?

No, no. But, you know, there are the conspiracists that are out there. And they're uneducated and they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Or maybe they're too educated. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. And, you know, they can have their opinion. That's why we live in America. You're entitled to your opinion.

Okay, so let me ask you this. I think I have a gotcha on you right here. And I'll just reveal that it's a gotcha because I think I, I don't know what answer you could present. It would disprove this. You've always looked like this. I look like me. Yes, go ahead. And you're not Epstein.

That's correct. And you only got famous three months ago. Correct. I mean, that's like implausible that you would have not gone viral before that. You want to hear a good one? Yeah. Okay.

There was a TV show called The Real Housewives of New York and Bravo. Do you know that show? You know the franchise of all the Real Housewives? I've heard of it. So you're familiar with it.

I've heard the name of the show. I'm not familiar with that show where it's branch. It's a huge franchise for Bravo. And I was in the background and one of the main housewives gave me a kiss. That was it.

And now it's COVID. And Generation Z is watching that episode. And she's my daughter's roommate in college. And she goes, Emma, Emma, Emma, your dad's going viral. So this person that watched it during COVID put a banner up. Why is Sonia Morgan kissing Epstein? It went viral for like five minutes and they had to take it down because I'm not him. And they knew that.

But do you understand why that doesn't just, okay. And there would have been legal issues if they kept that up. Do you understand why that might not disprove what I said? You okay there? That could have just been Epstein doing it or you, really. No, it was me. When this video filmed of you on the Real Housewives? During COVID.

No, no, no, no. It was re-played during COVID. No, sorry, sorry. It was replayed during COVID. That's a good one. I don't remember exactly. I would say- But when Epstein was alive.

Alive is if you're not right here. Yeah, he was alive then. Okay, so then it was just him. And then it went viral. and I mean it was made how does that disprove what I just said it was made you were going around all day in a car with your convertible off looking like

the most famous criminal of all time and one guy took one guy to finally film you matan we have I doubt it we have pre-pom beach Pete when I was just Peter living in the city and then we had Epstein I thought you're going to finally a bit and then we had post Palm Beach when I became

a viral sensation due to the fact that I'm an outgoing big personality like to have fun and there happens to be a resemblance. A resemblance. Mm-hmm. I mean, even if you aren't him, it's like not even a resemblance.

It's like I'm looking at him in the eyes. You are. Have you ever met him? No. Okay. Unless I was too little to remember. Right. But hopefully not, right.

How old are you? I'm 19. No, you're only 19? Yeah. With all the success, you're amazing. I appreciate it. But you can't flatter me into it. I'm not flattering.

I'm just telling you the truth. Dude, I'm telling you the way it is. you're getting to hang out with Palm Beach Pete that you were able to find me through my team. To be fair, I'm way older than who you usually hang out with but used to hang out with. That's funny. I love that.

So maybe I'm actually super unsuccessful by that metric. No, I know you're successful. You have millions of followers. What you do is incredible and that you've risen to the top of the Internet fame game and everyone's trying to get into that arena and you've done well with it. I really could.

I appreciate it. My pleasure. Who are you going to be for Halloween? You know, I'm not a big Halloween person, but if I had to be someone, I'd like to come back as Roger Federer. Why? He was the best tennis player in the world. He was super chill, really good looking guy, great style. You met him?

I met him. He's kind to everyone. He has one of the best statements that I've ever heard. It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. I agree with that. I actually played tennis for like five minutes with Federer because when he comes to the U.S. open the week before, he has to do his dog and pony show with all the sponsors.

And he was sponsored by Netjet. So I got invited and I got to hit with him. Couldn't have been a nice human being. He has two sets of twins. So I said, hey, I'm a twin and I have twins and just enjoy the ride. And the guy was just amazing. And this was when Epstein was alive. Yeah.

Did all of these people who were obviously friends with you back then Nazepstein, were they not just like, holy shit, you look exactly like that guy? Or like, I don't understand what was happening. Well, you have to put it in context. So when I was growing up through college, through my early years living in Manhattan, no one knew who he was until... Besides these celebrities that you were hanging out with. And he finished.

No one knew who he was until about 10, 15 years ago. He was this mysterious financier. No one knew what his story was. And that's when he came to the forefront. and then when he did those terrible things and when he got arrested, etc., he was front-page news. I don't know what to tell you.

I mean, you have not laid enough evidence for me to not believe that you're Epstein. Okay. And if I'm wrong... Yes, sir. Then the world we live in is a different one because I'm not. We're all entitled to our opinions.

Well, it's not an opinion. You either are or aren't Epstein. Which has been established that I'm not. By who? By Epstein? No, by me. And you're Epstein, so by Epstein. Epstein has established Palm Beach Tea.

That's good. That's a really good. Anyhow. Why do you even continue to deny that you're Epstein? Don't you think enough time has passed anyway and people would forgive you? I can't say I'm somebody that I'm not. Okay, I'll just,

just to get you to interact with the question, don't you think enough time has passed and people would forgive him? No, never. Why? Because he was a disgusting, vile human being. Why? You shouldn't call him disgusting.

Even if you aren't him. What he did, he prayed on victims. He made victims. They weren't victims before him, actually, so he didn't pray on victims. Then he prayed on young, vulnerable, underage girls, and he was a horrific person. That's not the only thing he did, though. He did some other cool stuff. Define cool what he did

Owning an island and having blackmail on everybody in the world And that's cool? Yes Why is that cool? Determined Let me think This is wrong Fucking talking about

What are you even reading here? Yeah that's cool I would say it's cool Okay You don't agree? Sorry I don't Can you relate to somebody who doesn't want to work a normal job and wants to live entirely off social security because they're a

disgusting cripple who lost their arms and legs fighting in a war. Oh, they also lost part of their brain so they don't even know what the fuck is going on anyways. I don't think I can relate to that one. Could you feel bad for them? I feel bad for someone that lost their arms. But they're fucking lazy. They don't want to work. Hey, why do I have to pay with my taxes to keep this guy running? No, I understand what you're saying, but I worked and I contributed to. to Social Security, so I'm entitled to Social Security, just like any other American citizen who put into it. You're talking about yourself?

I'm talking generally speaking. I'm not talking about you, though. You're entitled to Social Security because you paid what? Billions of dollars in taxes, or actually you may not have paid anything? No, I was just a normal, you know, working stiff. I wish I had billions. I wish I had an island. I don't.

I have a great life. Why would you wish to have that island? I'm having, it's an asset. Would you take it right now if somebody offered it to you? I hire a real estate broker to sell it and take the funds and invest it. Okay, two options. Go ahead. You're allowed to get the island, but you cannot sell it,

or you're allowed to get the island and sell it, but you have to change your name legally back to Jeffrey Epstein. I would take the former. Okay. Why didn't you collect blackmail on my next guest Longneck? Is it because... Who's the next guest? Longneck.

Who's longneck? He's that dumb fucking idiot with the long neck Kind of looks like this guy But even dumber I don't know who he is This guy looks relatively normal, right? He could pass off his normal Who's long neck? Seriously, who's long neck?

He's a guy with long neck I don't know who he's. Off Instagram? I don't know, I'm sorry. Well, anyways, why didn't you collect evidence or blackmail on long neck? Is it because he wasn't important enough Or because you thought he would do the work himself?

I can't collect blackmail being Palm Beach Pete. Why? That's not even true. Because I never do stuff like that. So you can do it because you don't? So you want to hear about my day? Yeah. I wake up in Palm Beach Island.

And I play tennis. I go out for lunch. I have happy hour. I have dinner. I have good friends. And then all of a sudden, I have the social media presence. And now I'm very busy early in the morning,

banging out cameos, greeting people, making content. That's my day. Okay, well... I don't blackmail anyone And I don't know who the trick long neck is. But regardless, I have to... I think human beings are capable of doing some really bad things.

You would know. When they're pushed. You would know better than any. And when they're desperate. Yeah. They'll do anything considering the footage you have on them. Well, anyways, I have to film with long neck now.

I appreciate you. We're done. Thanks for you. That's it. You're good, man. I'm trying to get a look into your eyes. I'll tell you this. What, bro?

I believe you're Epstein and I still respect you because I don't think you did anything wrong.