The Matan Show - Matan & Icewear Vezzo Debate Race Politics, Free Speech

Episode Date: January 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast. For today's guest, we have Iceware Vizo. Welcome in. How you doing? How you doing? Nice to meet you. What's up? What are you for? You got it wrong again, bro. I got it wrong? It's Vezo. Vezo. And as the co-host, we have Viral Flooring. Welcome in, Viral. He'll be replacing Mike today.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Who is, bro? That's Viral Flooring right there. Viral who? Viral Flooring. He's the co-host for the episode. Viral Flooring? Yeah. Your name Flooring? He's the co-host for the episode. Viral Flooring? Yeah. Your name Flooring? That's game real name.
Starting point is 00:00:29 You like it? Nah. You don't like his name? Flooring? Flooring, like the floor. No, I don't like that. Why not? Why you think that's a good name?
Starting point is 00:00:38 That's what they named him when he was, I mean, it's just a family lineage, you know what I mean? He doesn't decide his last name. I feel like that ain't his real name, though. Oh, you think that it's like a nickname? Yeah. I don't know. All he's told me is viral flooring. I just assumed he wasn't lying.
Starting point is 00:00:51 But he told me they call him that because he makes your floors go viral. He made the floor go viral. That's what you be doing? How you do that? He's a little hard to speak. Just real quick, in case anybody doesn't know you, please just introduce yourself. Tell them a little bit about it. What it do?
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm Iceware Bezzo from Detroit, from Six Mile, from the east side. That's what it is. You're from Detroit? Yeah. Any other vital information anybody should know? No, not really. That's all just the Detroit thing? Yeah, I'm from Detroit. I make music and I shoot movies.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So you're a rapper? I'm a man, I'm a man. Okay, so let me ask you a couple questions, alright? I read online that you had some beef with Eminem because he said because you said he was out of touch with Detroit rappers and he responded by saying you had athlete's foot is that true I don't think he was talking about
Starting point is 00:01:49 me when he said that he said that guy I swear Vizzo he said I'm out of touch with the Detroit rappers but he doesn't know nothing because I'm really from there and he has athlete's foot anyway nah me and Eminem ain't beefing I got love Eminem he from Detroit I don't beef with people from Detroit but do you have athlete's foot or no nah I ain't no athlete no no got love for Eminem. He from Detroit. I don't beef with people from Detroit. But do you have athlete's foot or no? Nah, I ain't no athlete. No, no, you don't have to be an athlete to have it. Well, I know athlete's foot is, I know that, but usually that's who get athlete's foot, people who got funky feet. You don't like run around ever or nothing like that?
Starting point is 00:02:20 I don't be running around. You do like performances, live shows? Yeah. You jump in when you do that? Nah, uh-uh. You do like performances, live shows? Yeah. You jump in when you do that? No, uh-uh. You're standing still? I be standing still.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I just be looking at the crowd. Oh, but there's a crowd? Yeah. It's very contagious, athletes. I just be standing there, and then I just be looking at them, and then they be like, they be like looking back, and then that be it. But none of them have ever touched their feet and started rubbing it on you? Nah, because I just go up on stage,
Starting point is 00:02:48 I get on stage, I stare at them, they stare back at me. And then that's the show. No. Just standing there? I just stand there and look at them. And none of them, do you meet them after the show or no? Nope, they pay top dollars so we can just have a stare-off.
Starting point is 00:03:04 How much for a ticket, like eight bucks? A thousand dollars. A thousand dollars dollar so we can just have a stare-off. How much for a ticket? Like eight bucks? A thousand dollars. A thousand dollars per ticket? Because it's a stare-off. Oh, just a stare-down? It's a stare-off, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I understand.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We do that sometimes on the show. Yeah. But just to put the rumor to rest, you don't have athlete's foot. No. You cap. Eminem ain't say that. No, I saw the video. It was a YouTube short. No. You cap. Say that, man. No, I saw the video.
Starting point is 00:03:27 It was a YouTube short. It was a repost of an Instagram reel. It was him. That's kind of wild for another man to say another man got athlete's foot. It may say that. It's a real. No, he said it. It's possible it was AI, but it really sounded like him. Yeah, probably AI.
Starting point is 00:03:41 There was a little subway surfer on the bottom running. He was avoiding all of the coins. He was doing a special playthrough. Do you know what I'm talking about? Mm-mm. You don't ever do that where you don't touch the coins? No. What's that?
Starting point is 00:03:52 It's a little mobile game they put on the bottom where they have Eminem talking about people's feet. No, I ain't never seen that. Okay, well, let's move on then. Do you ever get so hungry that you start eating straight out of the hazardous waste bin? Man, you know, it's crazy, bro. It almost got like that before. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So you were almost homeless? Because the garbage can technically is a hazardous waste bin. No, no, I'm talking about the stuff with the chemicals in it. No, no, I know the chemicals is hazardous, of course. But technically, a garbage can is a hazardous waste bin as well. You don't know what's in the garbage can. But it's not meant to have a hazardous waste bin. It's possible that there's hazardous stuff in it. But it's hazardous shit in there.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So that would make it a hazardous waste bin. And what do you think? Should people live in there if they're trying to scare people or no? I feel like if ain't nobody going to wear a lid in, they got to live where they got to live. Is this real, the hair? I'm just noticing it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People getting fake dreadlocks. That's not... I, the hair? I'm just noticing it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:45 People getting fake dreadlocks. That's not, I don't know, I heard. I hope not, that's corny. But so it's real? Yeah, you should get dreadlocks. You think I could get it that long? Yeah, you should get dreads. How long have you been growing out the hair?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Since 2013. I be cutting it though, I always cut it. Can I ask you a question? I hope this doesn't come off as disrespectful, but why is it on the top it's like mostly black and then down here it starts becoming a little brown? My hair like that, I love them. No, but on the bottom it's maybe you got it from the waste bin? Yeah, at the hazardous waste bin. That's where you got the bottom of your hair? Yeah, I got it from Eminem when I met him at the doctor because of my athlete's foot and he told me he got a gift for me, but we got to walk to the hazardous waste bin. And then him of your hair yeah i got it from eminem when i met him at the doctor because of my athlete's foot
Starting point is 00:05:25 and he told me he got a gift for me but we got to walk to the hazardous waste bin and then what did he give you he give you dirty hair yeah do you when you have hair like that are you allowed to wash it or no yeah you can okay do you or no not really so you understand like how you got the other thing right i'm starting to honestly you're starting to get it I'm starting to get it okay at what age did you decide to become a rapper at the age of one at one years old yeah and what were you rapping about I was rapping about robbing and shooting robbing and shooting yeah when I was one no like Elmo and Spongebob no I don't like SpongeBob. SpongeBob a rat. I already told.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Oh, he's a snitch? I already told on Squidward. I'm not understanding. I don't think you're understanding what you're saying either. SpongeBob is a snitch because you told on Squidward? SpongeBob told on Squidward. What is it? Is there a reference I'm missing?
Starting point is 00:06:24 No, he a rat. What did he tell on him for? He told. But you're against like rats, like people who snitch on people? Nah, I don't know. I don't know. Streets is the streets. These streets, where is it?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Would you snitch on a fella or no? Never. What about not a fella, just a different word? I wouldn't snitch on anybody because I'm not putting myself in a position to have to. You're saying the feds aren't asking you for any information? I don't do nothing for them folks to have to ask me anything. But you've been arrested before. That's why you get a lawyer. You get a lawyer, you know, you get a lawyer if you get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:06:57 That's what the lawyer usually negotiates. It's called a plea deal. All our plea deals isn't telling. Some of them are. A rule 11, for instance, right? A rule 11 means you plead guilty to the crime, but you leave it up to the judge to sentence you. Yeah, but you're going to get more favor,
Starting point is 00:07:13 and sometimes they'll max out how many years you can go if you give them information on others. Yeah, but you'll have a hard time in prison. It's not easy for people to tell. So you wouldn't do it, though, because of the street rules, or because you wouldn't want to get attacked in prison no no i'm not doing it because i'm not putting myself in that position you're saying i'm not going to jail i'm not a fool have you been to jail before i've been in jail a lot of times why do you think the government treats pleasant and delightful felons like yourself unfairly by putting you in jail for owning guns that's not
Starting point is 00:07:42 unfair if i got a gun i shouldn't have a gun. If I got a gun, I shouldn't have a gun. You shouldn't? No, I'm a felon. I shouldn't have a gun. Well, felons shouldn't have guns. No, a felon cannot have a firearm. So why do you keep trying to own firearms? That's not unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:07:53 They're not being unpleasant. So you agree with the ruling? I don't agree with anything. I just know if you break the law, there's a chance you'll go to jail. Yeah, forget the law for a minute. More about ethics. Do you think you should be allowed to own a gun regardless of you being a felon? Yeah, I think I should be allowed to own a gun.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Do you own any guns? No, I can't. But I think I should be allowed to because I'm a responsible individual. You know what I'm saying? And I got a lot to protect. So I should be able to protect myself, protect my family. Can Viral pat you down real quick? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Can he hold your pocket? No. Okay. What can I say to them? Do you find him funny? He's a serious guy. Are you looking for a manager? He does serious. No, he's for real. If you want a manager, he'll manage you. Yeah, he'll manage. He's a manager he he died serious no he's for real if you want a manager he'll manage you yeah he ever managed he's a manager that's how i know him this is your manager
Starting point is 00:08:50 that's my manager yeah yeah i haven't got paid in a couple months but he said he's gonna get it to me soon oh you sound like a wonderful manager oh he's good i i um i trust him yeah i trust him too he haven't paid you i think i trust him do you think he would pay you or no if he didn't pay you he probably wouldn't pay me I trust people like that yeah I agree well he said I trusted he's gonna give me the money he said there was some issues like when they sent it to him he spent it too quick it happens sometimes I'm a manager too you should let me manage you you're a manager yeah but how much would you take percentage-wise of my income I wouldn't honestly I wouldn't take a lot like I'm not gonna take advantage
Starting point is 00:09:28 I will leave you with at least 10% but he's taking 95 so he's taking more than you so he's doing better No, I will leave you with at least 10% but he's leaving me but he's taking 95 that's bigger than 90 Right. I'm gonna leave you with 10%. But he's leaving me with 5. Right. And I'm going to leave you with 10. Yeah, but isn't it better that 95 is a bigger number? You know what it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:09:53 If you ever get tired of him, call me. I'll leave you. Yeah. I'll take 95. How long do you think until my career implodes if we go down that route? It's not going to implode. Oh, can I ask you a question? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I'll give you 96% if you let me say it. Say what? Give me 96% of what? I'll give you 96% of my income if you let me say that. Show me the agreement. Let's sign the agreement. Oh, well, it's a verbal agreement. Let's sign the agreement, brother.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Verbal agreement. No verbal agreements, brother. No, no, that holds up in court. No, no. I don't like verbal agreements. They're not strong enough. Well, you have a couple security guards out there in the other room. The cameras can't see them, but if we signed an agreement that gave you
Starting point is 00:10:38 96% of my income, would you include a little part that says, like, sometimes they'll hang around with me and I can just go up to people on the street and say the word, they'll protect me or no no i don't think they're gonna protect you but i'm giving you 96 of my income yeah i will protect you but if i'm not around they're not gonna protect but you're not allowed to have a gun no i'm not so what do you how can you protect me we're gonna fight you know how to fight bro Keep it 100 I'm like a really good fighter I'm training boxing I believe you
Starting point is 00:11:07 I feel like you ain't trolling I believe you No I've never fought before I'm not a good fighter It's cause you never fought I mean But you think I could If it came down to it
Starting point is 00:11:15 I think any man can fight If it come down to it Without a doubt Who do you think Would win in a fight Between you and Viral Flooring He looks strong bro Oh he looks strong oh he looks strong I got a lot of muscles over there man I don't know he's a big guy but I'm
Starting point is 00:11:31 not sure if it's muscle I don't know about this guy man he looked dangerous he looks dangerous like a thug you like a gang he like a gangster and a gang banger and would you work with him on a manager level or no no I think he uh think he'll take all my money, man. I think he'll bully me. How much would I have to pay you to have one of them? To what? To have one of those.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Why would you want my dreadlock? I don't know. It looks funny. Pause. Pause. I didn't say anything gay. I'm not gay. You didn't say anything. You asked for not gay. You didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You asked for something. That was wild. Pause. What's wild about it? Asking to have anything. Oh, no, no. I'm offering to pay you. Not as like a favor.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Like, I'll give you money for it. What would you want? All right, give me a million dollars. You can have it. A million dollars? A million dollars. You got a million dollars. I know for sure you got a million dollars, gang.
Starting point is 00:12:30 You got an emsky. I know you got one. know you might have it but i don't have it he might be holding it for me feel like he sell cocaine well then he would have a lot of money always people always seem to call him out as slimy but i think he's a legit legit guy yeah i mean he only take 95 percent from you right that's pretty good hey guys sorry for the interruption i 95% from you right? That's pretty good Hey guys, sorry for the interruption I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by sheath sheath is an underwear company and before sheath when I wore other Brand underwear, I would sometimes get rashes they would turn red in each and hurt But after wearing sheath they are purple sheath is also made from materials Modal and Mike and the underwear also has a dual pouch which helps keep everything separate and comfortable. I personally wear the underwear and I like it. You can
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Starting point is 00:14:08 Whatever you think you're putting together behind the scenes nothing's happening it's like we're just chilling it's a nice cool interview yeah do you think detroit is a good place to raise a family yeah for sure and you do you think it's a dangerous place or just a happy place it's a happy place come on six mile we're really happy over there happy six mile what's six mile it's this neighborhood in detroit it's on the east side and it's on the west side. Did they make a movie about it? No, not yet. It will be one day. You ever heard of Eight Mile, right? Well, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:33 That's what Six Mile is. It's the same thing. That's how Detroit is, how our streets is. It's based off of it? Eight Mile, Six Mile. He look like Johnny Depp, cuz. Johnny Depp? No cap. He look like Johnny Depp, bro. He look like Johnny Depp cuz Johnny Depp no cap look like Johnny Depp bro was like Johnny Depp bro oh he's just shaking your hand don't worry about what I think he put a mic on right no no he's not what's the mic you have any drugs on you I don't do
Starting point is 00:14:57 drugs and brother oh no can you just hold that put it in your pocket I don't do drugs brother you have any weapons drugs is bad drugs is bad guns is dangerous drugs is terrible I'll cut this out real quick drugs drugs drugs is harming communities can I ask a question off camera let me tell you something let me tell you something okay don't do drugs okay stay away from drugs young brother they dangerous they harm your families you know what I'm saying I shouldn't sell them Don't do drugs. Okay. Stay away from drugs, young brother. They dangerous. They harm the families. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:27 I shouldn't sell them? Guns hurt communities, young brother. See what I'm saying? I'm a brother? Yeah, you my young brother. You're a brother. And can I say it or no? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Try it. Would you be angry if I did? No, I wouldn't. Would they be angry? Yeah, they will. No, I'm talking about the people that's watching Yeah, they will. No, I'm talking about the people that's watching. I'm talking about your security guards. They probably
Starting point is 00:15:49 can't hear you. No, we turn on TV for them out there. I'm not sure if they understand what I'm saying. I'm not sure if they... You know what? You want to know something? I'm not going to care. I don't know how they'll react. Let's find out. It seems like a risky test. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Let's see. For real, let's see. I don't know. It seems risky. You know what I mean? Hey, where cuz? Go tell him to come back, bro. He look like...
Starting point is 00:16:14 Johnny Depp. He like Edward Scissorhands. He look like Edward Scissorhands. No, no, look. Do you see him? Yeah, I see him. I see him. I see him. One second.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I brought it like Edward Sutherland. Me? No. Or the guy that put a mic on you. Yeah, Holmes. So he caught you for drugs. Yeah, Holmes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:40 All right, well, let's move on. You ever been arrested? Yeah, I've been arrested before. So they took you to, like, the prec precinct or you went down to the county? Where was you at? You was in LA? No, I was in downtown LA next to the Staples Center. You went to the precinct or the county? What is the precinct?
Starting point is 00:16:54 It's just like a regular joint, you know? Honestly, I don't remember. I know they put me in a little... I don't know how to say it. They put me in a little cell for a couple hours in handcuffs. Yeah, that's the precinct. Okay, yeah, that's where they had me. No, because I knew they were going to how to say it. They put me in a little cell for a couple hours in handcuffs. Yeah, it's the precinct. Okay, yeah, that's where they had me. No, because I knew they were going to have to drop it. Why would they have to drop it?
Starting point is 00:17:11 I was 15. What that mean? They couldn't charge me. Why couldn't they charge you? First time offense. You didn't go to the juvie. No, no, but it was a first time offense. That's not how that worked, brother.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You got blessed. That's exactly how it was. They dropped it. Yeah, I mean, that's not how that worked, but you got blessed. You got blessed exactly how it worked. They dropped it. You know what I mean? That's not how that worked, but you got blessed. You got blessed. I'm proud of you. Congratulations. You think it's because I'm Jewish?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Nah, come on, bro. Don't start the tropes, bro. Oh, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm saying if I was a... Bro, are you anti-Semitic, bro? Oh, I'm Jewish. I know, but are you anti-Semitic, though?
Starting point is 00:17:40 No, not at all. Tell the truth, bro. I swear on my life I'm not anti-Semitic. You're not anti-Semitic? On, I swear to God. I believe you. I believe you. I believe you, brother.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Are you? No. Would you, um, well, again, I wanted to ask you this a minute ago. I'm going to cut this out. I have left the... Hey, bro, listen, bro. Hey, listen, let me tell you. Well, i have a really serious question i need to ask you i have you can ask a question listen though bro i'm not that person bro you talking about i'm gonna cut this out no no i'm gonna cut this out of the team yeah
Starting point is 00:18:18 yeah i bet well more so me because i'm the one asking yeah i have an old manager guy that i'm gonna i'm trying to get him put to sleep. Can you help out with that or no? Pause, bro. What you mean you're trying to put him to sleep? Oh, I'm not trying to do anything. You ever put bro to sleep? No, he's my manager.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Tell the truth, bro. Y'all ever put each other to sleep? Oh, no. I don't mean it like that. I mean like put to sleep. Whoa, bro. I want to put him to sleep. Just stop while you're ahead, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:45 The cameras aren't even recording right now. Pause, gang. You want to put him to sleep. Just stop while you're ahead, bro. The cameras aren't even recording right now. Pause, gang. You want to put something. Come on, bro. I want to have somebody else do it. I wanted you to do it. There's some beautiful women out here, bro. Oh, no, not in the gateway.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I want somebody to kill him. Damn, what'd he do? Nothing. Why do you want to kill him? I don't know. It would be a good prank. It would be funny and Halloween coming up. Yo.
Starting point is 00:19:07 They're not gonna know who it was. Yeah. You think we should do it? I don't know. I'm asking you. None of this is... There's no footage right now. By the way, look at that TV.
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's all the security guards out there right now. Don't kill people. Killing is not good. Killing is bad. Killing is bad. So you're against drugs, killing, guns? I'm against drugs. I'm against killing. I'm against robbing. Killing is bad. Killing is bad. So you're against drugs, killing, guns? I'm against drugs. I'm against killing.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I'm against robbing. I'm against stealing. But you went to jail for drugs and guns and killing and robbing? No, no, no. I went to jail for... You went to drugs? It was small. Technically, it wasn't because I wasn't selling drugs.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I got caught with some drugs. Oh, you just got caught with it. Somebody put it there? No, it just landed there. It was an accident. It was in a rental car that I rented already. Oh, the rental guy put it there? No, I ain't going to say he put it there, but I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:19:54 But it wasn't you? No. I think the, I forget the term, but it's the Statue of Limitations has expired. I don't think you have to. You can just say it's yours. I went to jail for it already. Yeah, I know. So why are you saying it's not just say it's yours. I went to jail for it already. Yeah, I know. So why are you saying it's not yours?
Starting point is 00:20:06 It wasn't. I went to jail for that. I got... I went to jail for... Yeah. Yeah. I've been to jail before. You've been before?
Starting point is 00:20:15 And it was... What were the drugs? It was some... It wasn't nothing. It wasn't no... It wasn't nothing like that. Croc? No.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Bro, because I'm black, bro, and I'm from the hood, bro. A little bit. That was me again, because I'm black, and I'm from the hood. There's other factors, like the jewelry and the face tots. So that mean I'm a crack dealer? Well, no, you also went to jail for drugs. Let me hear you say, nigga. I really want to do it, but I'm not gonna.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Just say it. You're tempting me you know every time i have a black guy on the show listen let me tell you every time i have a black guy on the show let me tell you something do it you say nigga off camera i know you i know i do too but we're on camera go crash out let me see i'm not gonna do it don't do it i want to do it don't do it you do it. Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. I wanna do it. Don't do it. You do it off camera, though. Off camera? You think he say nigga off camera?
Starting point is 00:21:10 Oh, I make him. I pay him for it. Who say it the most? Oh, for sure me. You say it more than him? I say it as like a term of, not endearment, a term of anger. Why you say nigga when you mad? I don't know. Because sometimes I get mad at black people yeah I know it's me I get mad at white people
Starting point is 00:21:30 yeah so what do you call them wiggas I'm not even gonna try to say that because somebody could put in a little AI and put the end on it but no we call wiggas some people call when they get mad some people call white people crackers you do you do that or no no i think that's a bad word i would never say cracker cracker is a terrible word you will never catch cracker coming out my mind nobody would ever find footage of me not knowing i'm on camera saying the n-word either that Yeah. That footage will never come out. Yeah. I hope it doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. You said in a video people should start
Starting point is 00:22:09 saving their money up. Do you think a good way to save their money up would be getting arrested so all of your expenses are paid by the government? No. I think a good way
Starting point is 00:22:18 of saving your money up is working hard and not buying dumb shit like chains and watches and stupid shit. So are you just retarded or what happened? I am actually retarded. You have autism.
Starting point is 00:22:29 No, no, no, no. I'm kind of retarded for real. So you have autism? Because I do shit and I know better to do it and I still do shit. You shit? Yeah. A lot of times. I think you like going to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I don't understand. No, no, no. I do shit. I don't get it. I be shitting. You shitting? I be shitting around all the time. That sounds way more gay than it is. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I do shit. I don't get it. I be shitting. You shitting? I be shitting around all the time. That sounds way more gay than it is.
Starting point is 00:22:48 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to hear what's going on down there. No, no, no, no, no, brother. I do dumb shit all the time. Oh, stupid shit. Yeah. Okay, can I have the chain on me for the rest of the interview or no? For sure, I trust you.
Starting point is 00:23:01 How much is it worth? I don't want to say because I think that's inconsiderate. To who? To people. Who don't have as much money? Yeah. I think that's corny. I think it's a terrible thing to talk about how much money you got.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I think that's corny as lame. And this shit ain't about nothing. This shit don't make you a man. This shit don't make you sweet. This shit don't make you cool. This shit don't make you cool. This shit is a waste of money. It's garbage. I don't suggest anybody go buy this stupid shit.
Starting point is 00:23:31 This shit is dumb. Don't buy no jewelry, bro. Don't do it. It's not worth it. If you get some jewelry, get some plain shit. Or, you know. Yeah. Don't buy jewelry.
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's stupid. It don't mean shit. Hey, bro. Why you trying to get me snacks, cuz? What happened? He trying to give me some chips, bro. You want some? No.
Starting point is 00:23:50 You know what that mean? Give him some chips. Give him a snack. No, they're for you. No, no, no, no, no. He got your favorite flavor. No, no, no, no, no. Give him a snack. But he brought your favorite flavor. No, no, no. That's not okay to give another man a snack.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Why not? It's not okay. That's like against street rules. No, no, it's not nothing to do with the streets, brother It's got everything to do with I like women Listen, let's be clear here. None of us are gay or nothing. You're the guy talking about shitting But you're not like all bush decide cut the camera off real quick, let me ask you. Yeah, camera's really off. They off? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:26 for sure. You're gay. Oh no, I'm not gay, and the cameras are still on, by the way, you can see them all right there, so don't play stupid.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I respect you, gang, I respect you. But if I was gay, you wouldn't respect it? No, I wouldn't give a fuck. I have an issue with it.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I don't know, I don't know. I have an issue with them and those other guys. I don't give a fuck what a person is. I think I got a... Only thing I be having an issue with is the way some people... Let's not even say it.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Let's not even go there. We not gonna do it. I don't even know where you're going. I don't care if a person is gay. I don't give a fuck. So what do you care about? I care about my family. my wife and my children. If they were gay, then you'd have an issue with it though?
Starting point is 00:25:09 If my family was gay? Someone in your family. I got people in my family that's gay. Really? Yeah. You speak with them? Yeah, I do. I don't give a fuck. You don't mind?
Starting point is 00:25:20 No, I don't. It don't affect me. Do you think the police are more likely to arrest you because you're Muslim no why because you're black no because I got all right so look I feel like it's got to be between those two no no no no the police more likely to arrest me because we ain't even going to go there. What do you mean we're not going to go there? We ain't going to go there. Why are they more likely to arrest you?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah. Well, what's the reason? For real, though. That's what I just said. I'm telling you, bro. That shit be happening. Why do they do it? That shit do be happening, though, don't it, bro?
Starting point is 00:26:06 What, did they arrest black Muslim people? No. What happened? The other reason, what I had you say. Oh, black? No, you ain't hear me. No, I didn't hear you. I can't repeat myself because I already said it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You can't say it again? I know, I already said it. Okay, well, we'll move on. What's some real shit only a brother would know? This nigga's funny. Some real shit only a brother would know. Some real shit that only a brother know is a mother's middle name. No, no, not like a brother, like the son of their mom, like a brother. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:41 I can't use the other terminology. What is a brother? I'm confused. What is a brother? Like a real motherfucker who shoots people. A what? A criminal? Listen, don't make me... What are you trying to get me here?
Starting point is 00:26:51 You're trying to make me say all black people are criminals? No, no, no. I'm confused what you're saying. A brother. Okay, it's another terminology for the N-word. What's the N-word? You want me to say it? I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:27:01 You have to tell me. You're getting me close to it. I don't know what you're talking about. I can say it right now, but we're going to have to lock that door. No, no, no. I mean, you got to be more direct with the question. Okay, the word starts with an N. What do an N with?
Starting point is 00:27:17 An R. You fucking racist. If you would have said an N with an A, I would have not said you was racist. No, no, I don't say that word. You just said an N with an R. It have i would have not said you was racist no i don't say that word you just said it and with an r it does though that's racist bro you gotta say it and with the a but i don't use that version of it why would you use that so you say i do say it off camera yeah but but only that's not that okay, bro. You cannot be going around saying n***er. But I can say.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I'm going to tell you something Tupac said. Tupac said, n***ers is guys hanging at the club with gold ropes around their neck. N***ers was guys hanging from a tree with ropes around their neck. I think that I don't like that logic. I'm just telling you what Tupac said. The word is not cool. It's not okay. Is that some shit
Starting point is 00:28:08 only a brother would know? No, brother. No. No, no, no, no, no. Listen. So what? Because listen, because I'm not going
Starting point is 00:28:15 to go around saying cracker. You never going to hear the word cracker come out my mouth. You can say it. It's okay. I'm never saying cracker. Why not?
Starting point is 00:28:22 Why would I say cracker? You never going to hear the word cracker come out my mouth. Listen listen cracker is never coming out of my mouth the word cracker you would never hear iceware vezzo say the word cracker are you iceware vezzo no no say cracker okay well let's move on i get it the joke is that you keep saying it you say i'm not saying cracker it's like if i said i'm not gonna say the one with an R you know what I mean it's you get exactly what I'm talking about do you think this is by the way this question for context is because you used to sell lean um do you
Starting point is 00:28:58 think do you think I'd be safer drinking something you gave me or investing in Sam Bankman Freed's new crypto? You'll be better off investing in yourself and doing something legal. No, no. It's between those two. With your money. It's between those two. No, no, no. It's not.
Starting point is 00:29:11 There's no. You already said it. You said it. Would you say that again? Would I be safer drinking something that you give me? Absolutely. Or Sam Bankman Freed's new crypto. You'll be safer with.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I don't know too much about that guy's business, but you will be safer with, I don't even know who that guy is, but you will be safer. He's a crypto millionaire. Yeah, I don't know him, but look, you will be, no matter what, you will be safer with something. You never met him when you were in jail? No, you'll be safer with something I give you because I'm going to give you some water. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to give you good advice. Show you how to be a man.
Starting point is 00:29:44 What color would the water be? Be a a man. What color would the water be? I'm going to be a respectful man. You heard? What color is the water? It depends where we get the water from. In some cases, would it be pink? If we get it in the suburbs, it's going to be dirty. If we get it in the trenches, it's going to be clear.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But it's never purple. Why would water be purple? I don't know. You used to sell that shit, man. Sell what shit? You know what I'm talking about, brother. Hey, I don't know. You used to sell that shit, man. Sell what shit? You know what I'm talking about, brother. Hey, I don't want this on me no more, bro. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:30:10 It's no problem. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, Mike might give it to you. He's a cool guy. No. I don't. Let me see. Let me see real quick.
Starting point is 00:30:17 No, no, let me see. Let me see. Let me see. I do not sell drugs, for the record. I don't sell drugs. I don't believe in selling drugs. I'm a father. I'm a husband.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I am a law-abiding citizen. Why are you talking into that mic like that one can pick up on you? Because it's my little homie. We just shooting the shit. I think he sells drugs. I respect him. He's my little homie. I think he might sell them.
Starting point is 00:30:37 That's the type of content he make. We just having fun. I don't sell drugs. You want to hold it? Yeah, I'm cool with it, no. Do you want to keep it for when you, I don't know when this is releasing, but later today, in real time,
Starting point is 00:30:51 you have a performance, you're going to do a little show where you do the stare-downs with people? Yeah. I don't know, can you keep it in your pocket because then we can get some evidence of you doing that stuff? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:31:02 You're going to take it out? Yeah. I could keep it in my pocket cuz don't know and go on at my shows all my friends is law-abiding citizens we are good guys yeah I'm sure good man we play by the rules we follow the law we do what's right we don't do what's wrong we're not thugs they're not thugs they just Sell drugs Kill people
Starting point is 00:31:26 No brother Killing is terrible Killing is horrible Okay Why do you think so many robbers Why you be saying killing on YouTube You get to do that Killing
Starting point is 00:31:38 That's white privilege White privilege Yeah Because we don't do it White privilege I'm not even white You are fucking white No I'm one of those guys
Starting point is 00:31:48 One of what guys? Those guys with the curly hair Why do you think it's a separation? Oh they're the same team? Yeah Do you think it's a separation between black Americans and Africans? Yeah a little bit It is
Starting point is 00:32:03 The Africans are a little darker. You're right about that. I would say that they're... They're separation, but we're still black, brother. You're white. You're more brown, though. They're more black. Yeah, I'm a black male.
Starting point is 00:32:18 No, I'm saying you're like brown, but... Like, your color on the skin is similar to an Indian guy, whereas a real guy from Africa, it's not. Do you believe in black power or white power? I'm not going to answer that. Why wouldn't you answer that? What's wrong with loving yourself? What's wrong with loving your people and loving the color of your skin?
Starting point is 00:32:39 That's what I'm saying. So why not believe if you're white, right? I like black power. I'm not saying I don't believe in it. I'm just saying I won't say it. But why though? Why? I'm saying. So why not believe in if you're white, right? I like black power. I'm not saying I don't believe in it. I'm just saying I won't say it. But why though? Why? I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Let me ask you a question. You think it's a problem for somebody to love their skin, to love the color of their skin, to love their self? I don't think so at all. I think if you want my honest opinion, I think I should be allowed to look however way I want. And say? Color however way I want, whatever I want to do. I think if you want my honest opinion, I think I should be allowed to look however way I want. And say... Color however way I want, whatever I want to do. I think you should. I think we all should.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Why do you think so many rappers go broke after several days? I don't pay their taxes. You said after several days? Yeah, several days. They release like a song or something? That don't happen. You've been watching too many YouTube shorts. No. I don't believe that stuff. Tell the bro you think all rappers is dumb keep real i i think it's i don't want to discriminate in color but be discriminative we being honest i
Starting point is 00:33:35 think the reason let me tell you the reason why guess what me and you both got in common you know we both got in common we respect and appreciate free speech oh yeah so say what you want to say brother well I just said it I think the issue with the rappers I don't think it's their fault I think their brain is the size of an almond that's not true bro because I know somebody to think our streamers are I'm not a streamer, though. What are you? What are you? I'm an interviewer guy. This isn't live or nothing. What are you? Interviewer.
Starting point is 00:34:11 For real, serious, gangster-style interviewer. You went to school for this? Huh? You went to school for broadcasting? Oh, I don't go to college or nothing because there's too many liberals, but you can get a film degree. Smart man. You're not a liberal. Fuck, No, I'm not a little you're a Republican guy I'm not a Republican, but I'm damn. So not a liberal conservative though. I think I'm more conservative. Yeah, what I did up. Yeah I'm not a Republican. I just have conservative value
Starting point is 00:34:41 As long as you're not one of those, you know, whatever. I'm not a liberal at all. Stupid guys. Check this out. Check this out. Check out what? Like the teacher doing the mic? You think, you think, you think, you think, you think, you think Adam Sandler
Starting point is 00:34:56 is a better political leader than than Bill Belasio? I have no idea who the second guy is what the fuck is his last name the mayor the ex-mayor of New York the Blasio the mayor oh the ex oh the Blasio I think yeah I don't really know too much about him I know the new mayor of New York I just met him what's his name Eric Adams he just got indicted today we This is the day we're filming that. Yeah, he got indicted.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Damn. Every time a motherfucker come up, every time a black man come up, they bring him down. I know that. You know what I think the issue is? That black men in power need to stop taking bribes from people and it won't happen.
Starting point is 00:35:41 We learned it from the white men. But they don't get caught. They don't get caught because the white men tell on the niggas. They tell. Tell them, bro. Tell them the truth, bro. They tell on the niggas every time. They tell on the niggas, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's my boy. He know the vibes. He know what's going on. I think that he wants to say stuff right now that would get him attacked right now, but he's not going to say it. But we'll move on. We'll move on. He looked like Adam Sandler what advice would you give to young and upcoming rappers looking to make it past 30 have a plan B a good one no not how would they become successful as rappers how can they make
Starting point is 00:36:21 it past 30 years old that's what I just said have a plan B not asking me that's my advice being a rapper at the age starting off as a rapper at age 30 should be a plan it's a misunderstanding the question not miss what is my misunderstanding the question that you asked I wrote the question I know I take it back you understand the question you just don't want to answer it no I understand the question you understand the question you just don't want to answer it no I understand the question all right Malcolm X will move on do you think all cops are evil what about Malaysians yeah you don't like them fucking hate what is it what's the biggest problem with them I don't got no
Starting point is 00:37:04 problem with nobody I just don't got no problem with nobody. I just don't like racist people. I think we don't need to be racist. I wish we would, no, I'd be racist. I think you know what we need to do? We need to take the meaning out of the word so I can say it more often. No, brother, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:18 You should just choose a different word. If robbing doesn't work out, would you consider becoming one of those guys who turn on the lights for Jews during Shabbat? Educate me on Shabbat. So like those Jewish people, I'm Jewish, but I'm not religious. It's when those religious people, they're not allowed to touch electricity or lights or electronics. So sometimes, a lot of the time in New York.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Isn't that what Amish people do? Would you consider doing that or no? Never why not why would I they'll pay you like $40 and then sue you for it Are there any steroids you could take to help you become a better rapper? Yeah, you could say Yeah Yeah, you can which ones ones? I just told you. You said, yeah. Bro, you don't listen good, bro. I see he don't listen well.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I'm not about to keep asking the same questions over and over. I just answered the question, brother. Listen, man, you're the one making it uncomfortable. We tried offering you food. No, I don't eat Cheetos. No, that's not true. Yeah, you do. I don't eat the cheese joints.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Them shit's got bugs in them. I think that's not true. Yeah, you do. I don't eat the cheese joints. Them shit's got bugs in them. I think that's Kittles. No, that's those. The Cheetos have bugs in them? Yeah. What type of bugs do they have in them? Go get a microscope, you'll see. Oh, you're saying if you look down on it really close?
Starting point is 00:38:39 They probably have that in everything, though. If you look at like a steak. Without a doubt, that shit isn't a lot of shit. So you don't eat anything? What is the implication implication here I don't eat a lot of shit especially cheesy Cheetos so what do you eat pause listen you're making it gay again I'm just asking like what type of food you eat pause food food oh man I don't eat nothing That's if you order I get full of water Okay, so That's a lie. No, it's not
Starting point is 00:39:13 Whatever you're not gonna answer the question. You're trying to you're trying to make me sound gay or something. I'm not gay You making a trick on me Marry brother, oh you're married you have any children you have two kids you have two how old are they eight nine eight and nine so back to back yeah and do you like about the same woman because i know you think all black men got different baby mamas and you think black men don't raise their kids because he was about to ask i have a question for you but it might come off as really disrespectful so i don't want to ask it can i ask it no okay we'll move on then if you had a neighbor who lived above you they wouldn't stop jumping
Starting point is 00:39:57 up and down what would you do i wouldn't have nobody living above me okay that's okay you did though that's the hypothetical no no no don't though. No, no, no. No hypotheticals. It's about real life. Okay, what I'm asking you in this situation it's a judge of character. Right, and I'm telling you my character is the type of person that would not have anyone living above me. But the judge of character is that if you were in
Starting point is 00:40:17 that position, what would you do? Right, but the thing is, right, all this play a part in the type of character I have and I would not allow anybody to live above me because I'm a hard-working man what if it was a justice okay sure let's say you but what if you live in like one of those New York penthouse but I don't live in New York listen Detroit miss some brother I'm asking you a hypothetical I understand what you don't understand it
Starting point is 00:40:42 but the thing but you don't answer it though. Yeah, but the thing is... But you don't want to answer it. No, no, it's not about not answering it. I just don't... It's a question about character, right? My character plays a part in that. I understand, but you're saying that your character wouldn't live in one of those places, but that's not what I'm asking. I'm saying that if you did, for whatever reason, the judge of character would be how you treat the situation feel bad for everybody I go through that I'm sorry you gotta go through that they live in apartments no they've got a deal with people jumping above and making a bunch of noise I'm sorry you got a problem with that he making it a
Starting point is 00:41:20 bad thing keep bringing up questions about it. So I think he basically judging y'all and saying that y'all deal with hard situations on a daily because y'all can't afford to live in places. He think y'all can't afford to live in places where you got the upstairs
Starting point is 00:41:36 floor to yourself. I'm sorry that he's like this. This is my little brother. You're apologizing on my behalf? Yeah. So can you take the shit for it instead of me? Yeah, I would. like instead of me losing sponsors can it be you no you
Starting point is 00:41:50 don't have any sponsors no I don't I really don't know cap I don't know so how much is this worth like 40 bucks you almost had it 35 no you get close I don't know. $22. $22? Yeah. You got it off one of those guys in Chicago? No, I made that bitch. Oh, you made it yourself?
Starting point is 00:42:12 I used a bunch of nickels and pennies. I melted them down. I used to draw. That was my first passion, was drawing. I'm an artist. Wait, wait. I want to ask you a quick follow-up about the last question. If you lived in, let's just say if you lived in one of those apartments, real quick,
Starting point is 00:42:25 and the guy living on top of you was a skinny white dude, very peculiar-looking guy, not in a good mood, and he was... Look, his neck went right here. His neck, he has a long neck. What would you do if he was jumping? You probably wouldn't even be able to hear it, though, because he's so skinny.
Starting point is 00:42:44 If I wouldn't hear it, then I wouldn't know that he was jumping so you wouldn't have an issue living right below long neck pause who long neck we're sending him to your concert later oh you're talking about the uh the white boy with the long neck poor that's what i said yeah the white guy with the long neck yeah skinny's what I said, yeah, the white guy with the long neck. Yeah. Skinny white guy with the long neck. All white men got long necks. He's actually here right now.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You want to meet him? Yeah, all white men got long necks, for the record. Go like this? I guess we have a similar... I have a little of a longer neck, probably. No, but you guys have the same one. No, we don't. Why?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Just because you're saying that his face is just more thick he likes super mario super mario yeah well listen i have to get money though huh mario getting money okay he's getting those gold coins that's what i was talking about earlier on the subway subway surfers oh yeah that was the reference yeah you got it okay I'm going to have to end it here so we can Uber Longneck. He's going to be right behind you. I'm just going to tell the guy to follow your SUV. Thanks for coming. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I appreciate you, young brother. Can I keep this thing or no? No, sir. Oh, I can't keep it? I can make you one. You can make me one? Yeah. And be a manager too, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:01 What about Longneck? Let's talk some business. Why you want to hold my hand for something like that? No, I'm checking it. so I'm the one in control. We got to stand up and we shake hands like this. Appreciate you. Yeah, so can you do an interview with long neck real quick? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:15 He's just getting started. You'll see him in a minute. Yeah, I'll do an interview for long neck, of course. For long neck. All right, you can get out of character now. Don can get out of character now. Don't get out of character now.

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