The Matan Show - Matan Makes Transgender "Woman" Storm Out After Heated Debate

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

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Hello everybody welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have a transgender please welcome in Nice to meet you Right Right Well, I don't think I could I just want to be careful. Yeah, I don't want to get AIDS Yeah, I know I know it's tough so please just in case anybody doesn't know you introduce yourself and Tell them a little bit about and welcome today's co-host Mike. Hi. Hello Mike. Um, yeah Robin Tran

Comedian what is the trans stand for? It's just a Vietnamese last name. So just a coincidence. Just a just a big coincidence No one's ever actually well nice to meet you my brother. Yes, yes. Thank you. You can see my sister. Very good. I love this.

This is great. Go ahead. Finish introducing yourself. No, this is the most effort I've seen put into a podcast for a long time, so I appreciate it. I appreciate you putting some production value into this. I'm not even being sarcastic. This is wonderful.

Now this is a bit hard for me to navigate because if I'm too mean to you or something like that, I could get canceled by you know who, but if I'm not mean enough, I'm going to get canceled by my own fans. So I have to kind of walk a fine line here with also subsiding by my own morals, which is to be extremely hostile. But I feel like, yeah, I don't think we have any overlap of a fan base. I actually don't know why you wanted me on your show, but I think I'm more I'm more scared of my fans than you are of your fans Why don't we put it that way? So there's that's really true

But I'm just saying like if I was to have a civil conversation with you not only would I be mad at myself But my fans would be pissed. Yeah. Well, I mean you can be as mean as you want, you know Yeah, I give you full permission to do what I'm not gonna be meaner than I think is necessary or something I mean I'm sure our views differ though so maybe that will come up our views about about what I can't imagine anything is aligned yeah you know what I know it no tell me what is the one of your views that you don't think are aligned if you're such an expert on transgenders Tell me this who is more powerful Megatron or Artemis Prime

Who Megatron or Artemis Prime? Oh? Don't you identify as one of those? I've never seen the Transformers. I guess the only time I see Transformers is when I'm hanging out with other trans people What is in Transformers supposed to not be real? Yeah, just you know anything trans is not real. I think is what's going on here? Uh is you know just you and me playing fake people you know I'm not playing fake And I don't want you to misinterpret my views. I don't dislike trans people. I hate them. That's right So we see we are aligned you hate trans people. I mean who doesn't right am I right people this guy knows what I'm talking about. Don't touch him, please

I did not touch. I don't want him to get AIDS either I don't think that's how you get AIDS, but I don't know. Maybe it's different with trans people It definitely could happen. It definitely anything could happen on this show now. Tell me so Can you just tell me a little bit about transgenders and how you became one and all that? Yeah I don't know I saw girls and I was like I think I'm one of those and then I said why don't I just tell people I'm trans and then you know emotionally blackmail everyone in my life and say that you know. What do you think he identifies as? It's an amazing co-host you know. He's not a co-host what do you think he identifies as it's an amazing co-host

you know he's not a co-host what do you think he identifies as he certainly identifies as something he isn't uh I don't know like weird owl not weird owl yeah what do you what do you think he identifies as what do you think? Uh, just a cool dude, right? Little dangerous maybe? Little dangerous? You agree? Mysterious. Not mysterious.

No? Not mysterious. Why do you think he identifies as? Uh. Come on, you know it. I don't know it. What do you want me to say? Just tell me what you want me to say.

I thought it was going to be obvious. Maybe I should have had him get the pistol. Regardless. You want me to call him a terrorist Not him. Oh him. No, I know him what terrorists what you think he's trying to look Muslim. I Think that terrorists can come in all shapes and forms. He's trying to look black. Oh, he's trying to look black He thinks he's black. I don't see color. So you do unless you're colorblind. You'll see black and white I am colorblind. How do you know? I'm not colorblind. You don't see color so you do unless you're colorblind you'll see black and white I am colorblind bad how do you know I'm not colorblind you don't know that well you'll still see black and white yes okay so now so you said you saw women and you just decided you wanted

to be one of them because it was cool yeah I thought it was really cool I wanted to fit in you know wanted to be one of the girls. Now I've thought like there were chairs that looked cool but I didn't try to become a chair. Well you should you don't have one life you can be whoever you want you can be a chair. I mean I can I can like dress as a chair but I would some people might be mad like transgenders would be mad if they didn't refer to them as chairs. I mean look I mean I think that transgender people can be mad at anything. So you know what? You think they're overly offended?

Uh, do I think trans people are overly offended? Yes. It depends on the race. Depends on the race? Yeah. I mean, I know like making fun of white people on the show is pretty easy, right? It's pretty low hanging fruit. Making fun of white people?

Yeah, I think that's pretty- We don't really do that one You don't do that one. No, then I bet if they're white then they're offended And if they're black, they're not I don't what do you think? I don't think there's many like, okay We ask him he's black right, but he's not trans. I Don't know he he won't if you're not I mean, he's just if you're trans don't say anything See he's trans so Clearly that's not really a word. You didn't say a word. You should say anything. Okay, that's true. Just to clarify

That is how usually people react when they see me in the street So how should a father react if his son comes out a shoot himself be sure his son She shoot them both or D shoot his wife I mean I mean I think you mean shoot his daughter I think that's the most offensive part of this whole thing I don't know that's not well that's not I'm not I don't mean that maybe I'm more offended by that than the gun I think the gun is a pretty cool Pretty cool thing. Um, I don't know. I think I mean I guess it's the wife's fault, right? That's kind of what this she raised the son wrong and how he thinks he's a wife too. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the best answer

Maybe the whole family goes, you know, maybe that's the easiest way to go about this Is it more likely that if someone saw you they'd think you're a transgender or a transient? I don't think that anyone's ever seen me and wondered if I'm trans. I think they just think you're like a crazy homeless? They think that I'm like... They try to offer you a quarter? Yes, right. Yeah. Transient? Wow. What is that? It's like an other being transient? Like you're like, you transcend? No, that's what a homeless person is. That's another terminology.

Oh, they think I'm homeless. No, I don't think anyone thinks I'm homeless. No? I don't think that there are homeless, I've never seen a homeless Asian person unless you're I've definitely seen some of them. What's wrong with Asian people? What's wrong with Asian people?

I mean, what's the problem with them? Oh, I mean, how much time you got? You know? You tell me, I mean you're Asian and I'm wondering. You're wondering? Well what is your problem with Asian people? One, two! What?

Is something with their eyes? I just told you that, yeah. You don't like their eyes? No. Or smaller? Is that what you're trying? Yeah? I didn't say that's the reason, but we

can move on if you want. I think this is your show. We can do whatever you want. Well, can you tell? I mean, I don't know. Because when I asked that one about the son coming out, and you said that you were the most offensive part, I didn't refer to it as a daughter.

It? Well, that's just so you know. I was a joke. I don't care. I'm not joking I'm just I'm trying to be neutral I guess the thing is about that question is that like the dad killing himself is just like I mean that's just like such an easy that would be my answer but that's just so easy it's not edgy enough I'm

not asking about a job saying were you actually offended when I call the Sun the Sun still no not really so you don't care if someone misgenders you? No, not I don't really care that much. It wouldn't be offensive? I don't know if it would. I mean I don't know if it's not offensive. It just wouldn't offend me. You know something that doesn't offend me. Would it bother you? It depends on the situation I guess. What would be the context where it might bother you? Uh I think if I'm like on a set for something, but it's not really about gender. It's more like, well, you should fucking know who I am.

I'm Robin Tran. It's more of an ego thing. But if I'm just on the street, I don't really put in any effort, you know? I would, if I got mad, I wouldn't do that. I mean, when they think of Robin Tran, what are they supposed to think, like, be careful? Yes, that's what everyone thinks

when they see me is to be careful. No, I guess I don't really get fixated on the gender the misgendering very much. Okay.. And do you think the other transgender people should focus less on that? I think that the other trans people should do what they want. You know, I don't like to speak on behalf of a whole group. Why not? Because I'm not white. Yeah, but I speak on behalf of like whoever I'm initiating myself as at some time.

Whichever race you are at the day. What race are you? Well, I'm white. Oh. So I guess I speak on behalf of white people often. Well, yeah. Old Jews. Because you're white.

Well, yeah, and I think that's fine. I mean, I'm just, it's fine if a different white person disagrees with me, but there's only one white guy in the room that's gonna talk right now. So I'm just like as a white to a Whatever that thing is you are I'm trying to understand here. Okay I yeah, I think that I Don't know I think I'm just more relaxed than no other trans people, but I don't know that's not because you're a comedian or what do you think? Your parents were accepting I

Don't know accepting is the word. They're not unaccepting I don't know probably I don't know I just like grew up when on Eminem probably and they kind of just taught me like oh you just kind of laugh at anything On Eminem. Yeah, I would say the rapper Yeah, the rapper yeah, and he's made you trans Yeah, Eminem is one of the reasons. I'm trans yeah, I Had a well how did that happen? I mean I'd like them in ammo I guess I you like them until now right until you found out I like them well

I don't know maybe he's actually I don't know maybe as a bad influence I don't really know he has it's not like I don't like him cuz you like him. I mean, yeah, he has a song called bad influence. It's pretty good Why do I did he make you trans? I don't know just He dressed up in drag a lot There's a lot if you like look up Eminem in drag he's Dressing he had there's a lot of pictures of him in trade. I actually think Eminem is trans and that's that's not a joke I really think he's trans well clearly not why do you think he's a was a woman? Yeah?

I think he's like a lesbian woman you think he was no. I don't understand. I don't do though that game I'm saying you think he was born a woman I Don't know if he was born a woman But I think he is like a trans woman who doesn't know that he's trans like he you see the way he raps about how much he loves women it's not like a the way a straight guy would rap about how much it's how all those black people are up and I don't think those black gangsters like this dude or what this dude wants to be I don't think they like trans people very much you don't think so I don't think so I would tell you to go to

Compton and find out for yourself. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll make sure to do that. How do you think they would treat you there? I think they would laugh. Yeah, I think they would find me very funny. You know, they point at me and laugh a lot. Should transgenders be allowed at Burger King? I think they should be allowed I don't know if they should eat there Why is that? Not the best food and why is it there when men want to become women? It's okay But when I'm having a conversation with the refrigerator people, I'm crazy. I Actually think that if you were talking to a refrigerator then then you have a good reason to. Not a refrigerator, the refrigerator people.

I don't know how to answer this one. Not just ordinary refrigerators, I'm not crazy obviously. Yeah, like a refrigerator with like hands and legs. No, the one that talks to me obviously. You have a refrigerator that talks to you? Yes, multiple. Maybe, I don't know who am I to say who's crazy, right? I look like this, you talk to refrigerator people

I want to say I think you're crazy. I valid I validate you. I think you know you can think I'm crazy I do not think you're crazy. I think that people should respect your choices to talk to refrigerator people I don't I don't not respect your choice I think you should be allowed to do whatever this is, but I still think you're crazy That's okay. I am not in a rude way to do whatever this is, but I still think you're crazy. That's okay. I am not in a rude way. I think, I mean, if somebody thought I was crazy

for talking to the refrigerator people, I don't know why they would think that, but I think it makes sense why they might think I'm crazy if they thought that that wasn't real. I mean, I am crazy. You are crazy? Yeah. What, outside of this or just-

Yeah, absolutely. I'm fucking insane. Why do you think I did the show? Anyone who does a show and knows what it is, is probably a little crazy. Why do you say that? This is like just putting yourself through this. I think it's a great press opportunity for people. I do too.

Yeah. I did say yes, but I saw your subscriber count. I saw you actually, the first time I saw you was a it was a Redbar coverage of you. Redbar? Yeah you and David Lucas and there was he says hi by the way Redbar says hi to you. Well tell him I say hi. I will tell him you said hi. I mean. Yeah we dated a little bit didn't work out. He said. No he's not gay. No he's not no he said that he only dates trans women with vaginas. Trump passed a new law banning transsexuals from joining the military.

What the hell is wrong with him? Why don't we just send those motherfuckers to war? Yeah, one of the few good things that Trump did. I don't understand why. Thank you, Mr. President. And then they were mad at him. It's like everybody is on the wrong side. They were mad and they wanted to be in the military.

I really don't understand. I actually, this is one of the few instances where you kind of hit the nail on the head but you implied it that's one of the only things he's right about yeah you should actually ask Trump why he you're not a big Trump guy I don't know get a Trump guy I know I heard you it's good I uh Trump is you know I think Trump is you know I don't think he's funny but I agree with his politics so which politics do you agree with and which do you not agree with uh I don't all of them I don't I've not watched the news in a while so I haven't kept I haven't kept up

why is he not allowed to play high stakes poker games in my house for profit it should be okay is it not okay it's not-stakes poker games in my house for profit? It should be okay. Is it not okay? It's not legal for some reason. I don't understand why. Just because they have a bigger building, they get to do it and I don't. I think that's a travesty. I think it should be illegal for you to do anything you want with your life. Well, I guess it's not really with my life. It's sort of with others, but you know what I mean. I agree that it should be legal. Yeah. Yeah. life it's sort of with others but you know what I mean I agree that it should be legal yeah yeah so I you know I just think I think is though it's fucked up

that uh am I giving you what you need I don't know I feel like I'm not not sure how I'm doing on this thing what do you mean yes there's no reaction to anything so I'm not what would you think if a whale told you he was a chicken. I would have to just to be morally consistent I would have to say you're a chicken you know I can't I can't no I can't be a hypocrite that's the thing I can't be a hypocrite. I's the thing, I can't be a hypocrite. I know, that's why it's a great question. Because the first reaction would be trying to decipher how you're talking to a whale. Yes, right. And then second of all, you'd be like, wow,

he's obviously not a chicken. Well, I think if you're talking to refrigerator people in this world that you've built, then whales can talk. So I didn't want to escape. The refrigerator people are refrigerators. OK. They're not trying to tell me they're freezers if a whale told me he was a chicken I think my first reaction is holy shit whale is talking to me right I agree and the second is be like you know

what if you if you need my help you know people people would be me that's the sound that's a whale telling me he's a chicken. That's exactly how it sounds. Yeah, but you wouldn't believe the whale. You'd be like, holy shit. Once you did process that you're talking to what I would say is I'm like, even though you're a chicken, just remember that you're also brave. You're not like actually a chicken. You're a chicken, but you're not a chicken. You would be honest with the whale and you'd be like, Hey brother, that shit's

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Hello, hello. When someone turns transgender, is it similar to when Satan fell from an angel to the devil? You know, it's funny, I think this question, a lot of trans people would ironically identify as like satanic and gothic. You're Satanist? I don't believe in, I don't know,

I don't really believe in any of it. I think it's all kind of gay, all the religions including Satanism saying it's gay Yeah, all of them Satanism are you gay by the way pretty I'm pretty gay I don't know how you determine like I mean are you like you date men? No, you date women. Yeah, I would say every group except for cisgender men. I'm into You're into gay men No No no no I'm not into if they're gay and cisgender I'm not I just don't like men who are born with penises but I'm into every other group of people. What does that even mean

men who are born? Like cisgender you know like you like anyone not into men? I'm not into you yeah. That's good by men. I'm not into you. Yeah, that's good, by the way. I'm happy for you. Yeah, it is. It is nice to not be into men as I feel like it's a it's a gift that I have. Well, you have two strikes left. I thought you only had one. I'm surprised with your answer. I just don't know what even you're trying to say. You're into men if they're gay.

No, I mean, you're into men if they're pretending to be women. Yeah, I think- You're into men if they're pretending to be women? Yeah, I think that, yeah, if like, if a guy has a pussy, then I would be like, okay, that's fine, you know? Yeah, but those two things are mutually exclusive, you know what I mean? I mean, according to you. I don't think so. I mean, I am into what I'm into. I mean, I can drill a hole into my hand, I'm still gonna be a you know Yeah, yeah, I mean, what do you finish that sentence? Where are you gonna be you can drill a hole in your hand? And what is that? I would still be a man I wouldn't have like a female genitalia. I'd have a hole though in my hand

I guess but you did add a hole into your body. So I mean that does mean you're kind of trans See, I that's I guess where we disagree cuz that's not how I view things. Yeah. I mean have you undergone surgery? No I've not done anything. I've not done it. I've pretty much not done anything that you're supposed to do. So you're recent this is a recent thing for you? No I've been out for ten years now. You just don't have the money for it Uh, I guess I'm too lazy to do any of it And that's why I don't care if I guess you don't care about it at all to actually go through it Then why are you doing any of it at all? Feels good. I like it. Uh

No makes me money, I don't know this makes you money. I think it's easier sometimes to get booked, you know, I Mean what does that mean? Books for like what? Wow this show for instance I don't know if you would have me on if I wasn't trans right? That I guess might be true yeah yeah so I think like why else am I on this thing I'm the least famous person you have on I don't know. I've had on random people before. What? Every once in a while I like to have on random people random people yeah I thought I'm on McDonald's worker yeah is the driver yeah you're gonna be charlie charlie means the god howie mandel I'm like looking through this thing David Lucas funny episode that was

great I mean he's uh he was on it too I guess yeah ten thousand dollars huh do you ever give him that ten10,000? Of course not. Oh, okay, good. Ha ha ha. Do you think transgender is a mental illness or is it normal? No, I don't know if it's either of those things. I don't know, I think the whole, oh God, I don't wanna give any serious answers on this thing. Why not?

I mean, it's a serious show. Oh, I don't know. I think that it's this thing. Why not? I mean, it's a serious show. Oh, I don't know. I think that it's like transgender. I used to have real, I got high on mushrooms once. I was like, oh, I think transgender is this. That's when you became trans, when you were high on mushrooms? No, it was when I had like a epiphany about like,

maybe trans has just been like part of the atmosphere for a long time and some people just are in it and some people aren't, you know? It's kind of like that. I just kind of inhaled it in some way I don't know if that makes any sense I was I was high on mushrooms so it made sense when I was on mushrooms but I I guess I mean if we were all high on mushrooms I'm sure we'd be more accepting of trans people because then we'd all be a little crazy but yeah talking about the real world you know what I mean yeah I don't think I don't

think transgender ism is a mental illness but I will say that personally I am mentally ill and it has nothing to do with being trans I just got very unlucky that I have a lot of mental illnesses do you think being transgender is a mental illness the same way I guess being a schizophrenic is no I don't think so why not I don't think so. Why not? I don't know. I think it's just I just don't. I think trans people have a little more insight than schizophrenic. Actually schizophrenic people are only... I mean yeah but schizophrenic that's like the bottom of the list. You know that actually in a transgender like rheumatoid arthritis I actually you know schizophrenics in other countries are actually they have

positive thoughts in their head it's only in America that it tells you that kill people and do that's on but like if you're in I don't think that's true at all I should look it up everyone like going like look at up I don't know this just when there's schizophrenics in like, you know, Africa and they end up like getting a hold of an AK and shooting people. They don't think he's schizophrenic. They just assume he's just like everybody else. They don't know how to, you know what I mean?

No, they, they, they measure schizophrenics and it's like, they don't have, they're not able to measure them. There's no technology over there. I'm sorry. You're right. I, I can see the point you think like in Africa they're like measuring schizophrenia the more crazy you are the more powerful they think you are is that right that's I think how it works yeah well I think

you're the expert here so I'll defer to you why do transgenders pay so much money to have their penis removed when they can do it at home for free? I'm not gonna disagree with you there. I think that every trans person, you'd be like DIY, do it yourself. Hormones and surgery. Now the reason I agree with that is because it's likely that they'll have

a lot of blood loss and die. Is that why, wow. Well, we both agree, but for the wrong reasons. What's your reasoning, Just to save money? Save money. But you know they'll end up having blood loss and dying, right? You know what?

I think that there's ways to prevent that from happening and just fingers crossed, but I respect your... Why do people like Pulp Fiction so much? Isn't it about Jim killing Bob because he talked to James about John? Is that what Pulp Fiction's about? I didn't get it. I watched like a trailer for it and that's what I understood.

I don't understand why people like it so much. It's a great film. But that's a pretty simple plot line I don't understand. I like that Samuel L. Jackson. Will Smith. Will Smith, that's's right one or the other Lee shoots people and Uma Thurman's in it. She gets an OD. It's pretty it's pretty good movie really funny stuff

Now do you think we should find a cure for transgenders What kind of cure? What do you mean? Like I have an idea for a cure. I don't think we can do it though Okay, I want to hear your idea. It's barmase tssst. Barmase them? Yeah. You think it would like scare them out of it? I think they're gonna not tell- once I do that, they're not gonna keep telling me they're trans, that's for sure.

Hehehehe. I do think that that would be kind of the scenic route of stopping transgenderism. Scenic? What do you mean? It would just take a long time doing it one by one not if we fucking round them up you know what I mean? oh you're right but that would take a long time too why not? why? I don't know just the logistics of it I don't know how that would work is there a lot of you youth things out there?

I think that more people are yeah I think there's more trans people out there than we realize more than a million? yeah I think so more people are, yeah, I think there's more trans people out there than we realize. More than a million? Yeah, I think so. Oh, wow. I know. Isn't that horrifying? There's no way that's true. What is there like?

There might be, if there's like point, if there's a quarter of a percent of people that are trans, that might be, it could be even more actually. Yeah, because like there's like seven billion people. So yeah. I'm talking about just in America. Just in America. Yeah, I don't know. I think that there is, I just think that there's more trans people than we realize. And a lot of people don't know they're trans. Okay, so then it is a mental thing. If somebody is trans, but doesn't know they're trans, then it's like being schizophrenic and not knowing your schizophrenic. You know what I mean? Do

schizophrenics not know they're schizophrenic? Are you sure about that? That kind of it's, that's also mutually exclusive. Because I think that they would probably know what I mean? Do schizophrenics not know they're schizophrenic are you sure about that? That kind of it's that's also mutually exclusive. Because I think that they would probably know that I have voices in my head that aren't there right? You think they know that they're not there? Yeah I think so. Then they would just be normal. No but they're like. I mean I'm not schizophrenic because when I hear people talking in my head I'm able to usually differentiate it. That's what I mean I think that you're one of the good ones. I'm not schizophrenic I'm just normal and I can you know decipher what's real

and what's not. How do you do that? I guess when I see you for example I'm second-guessing myself like. You know you're second-guessing yourself you're like like why did I have this person on? Why do I have an American? Not like why am I having you on? Like is this a real thing in the world? But I mean most of the time, with him too, I mean this guy thinks he's black, but most of the time I can differentiate people whether they're real or not.

And you can't tell if I'm real or not? I'm like 99% sure. Then we have something. I'm not 100 on it. I think we feel the same way about the other person, so that's good, right? I'm not saying you're playing a character I'm saying I don't know if you're like you're implying about me I'm saying I don't

actually know if you're real right now or if I'm dreaming like I I don't know if you know these but I keep poking my hand I have I'm so I have gone high before and looked in the mirror and went there's no way you're a real person you see what I mean yes I know I'm not even from my perspective I'm out here from my perspective. I know I'm I I don't know I you know what I I don't have to see myself all day. So I have the utmost sympathy for you. You'd be I'd be mad at how turned on I am, you know, like why do I want no you wouldn't you know what? You're crazy. So maybe but I mean That's obviously not my perspective. It's obviously not.

Is it okay to send angry dogs on trans? I don't know, find okay. I don't think it's okay. Morally righteous. I don't think it's morally okay to do that with any person. Yeah, I agree. Any person. I'm not going to do that to a normal guy.

Any guy, you know. Any guy? Is it okay to sick dogs? police seek dogs on criminals, right? And you think trans people are criminals because they're not criminals because criminals are according to the law I think they're moral criminals moral criminals. Yes. I thought you were gonna go with you thought that lying was a crime. So It's not a crime. I am again. I'd be in jail. I am I am against sticking dogs on trans people Why I want to because I am against, I am against sticking dogs on trans people. Why? Because I think it is morally wrong.

Can you differentiate that from me why we disagree? I think it is wrong to stick dogs on any, any alive thing. Whether they're real or not. Is it okay to stick a dog on a re**st? I guess that is okay if you want to stick dogs so half the comedians you've had on here it's okay to stick dogs on them is what I'm saying

I agree, I think if somebody's a re**st Exactly, that's why I'm saying half the comedians you've had on here Are you referring to someone specific? You can say whoever you want I didn't say nothing You know? Well, I mean you're clearly like vying for someone. Vying for someone.

Who is it? You guys know who you are. I don't know who they are. I'm not really too tuned in with like who's *** people. It's like the day before the episode, but I'll just forget that after. Well, you can put two and two together. Can you tell me? Because now I'm curious. I don't want to get sued, you know.

Just say it's alleged. Alleged. You guys know. And by the way, guys, I've been having a little trouble booking guests, as you can tell. So if you want to help me out, I'm just putting a bounty out there. If you can give me Dr. Lee, I've been having a little trouble booking guests as you can tell. So if you want to help me out, I'm just putting a bounty out there. If you can give me Dr. Lee, I will give you $1,000 as a bonus.

I saw some other creators doing that, so I'm just going to try that as well. $1,000 for anyone who can get Dr. Lee on the show. Who's Dr. Lee? You don't know him? Bobby Lee? No, not Bobby Lee. Oh, okay. Dr. Lee.

No. I mean, they're completely unrelated. Dr. Lee is not Asian. Oh, got it. Oh, okay. Dr. Lee not that I mean they're completely unrelated. Dr. Lee is not Asian. Oh god Wow, okay Didn't see that coming. Oh why cuz Lee is usually your last name. Yeah, I think so I think it's just his middle name. He just doesn't go by his last name. I don't know. Okay You put bounties on people's heads on this show just to get them on the show This is my first time trying it out. Okay, is that legal? I'm not offering people to kill them. Okay. Do you think a transgender president would be good for the economy? I don't know. I mean, I would love

to see it because I think it would be really funny. But I don't know. What would be funny? The fall of civilization? Yeah, actually, it would be very funny to see things fall apart. Um, I don't know good for the economy I don't know. I think that a lot of free surgeries would cost a lot of money I think that's something they would target. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, do you think that I mean I don't believe in free health care to begin with you don't Know because my goal in life is to become a guy who owns a healthcare business. Okay.

So it's like when you were talking about just being morally consistent about the chicken and the whale. It's like I'm being morally consistent. So I you know for, it's OK. But do you think, I imagine you think health care should be free? I did until I met you. You're such a nice guy. If you want your own health care, thinking you're so nice

and you've been so nice to me, then I have to rethink all of my beliefs. Do you think it should be covered? I think that why I thought. Trans surgery, I mean. I think that everything should be covered. I thought until about five minutes ago. You think everything should be covered? I think that why I surgery I mean I think that everything should be covered well I thought until about five minutes you think everything should be covered like a nose job and a

hair transplant everything yeah everything yeah and I think everybody should have a billion dollars in a mega mansion but let's be for real obviously there's you know so many resources I mean if I'll let you say I don't care say whatever you want but is your should we give the trans surgery instead of like helping with the cancer? I would want to help with both. I know but like there's only so many

doctors. Yeah. Dr. Lou. I had to pick one or the other. I just depend on the person. What would that depend on? If I like them or not? I guess technically you could argue that you're saving both of their lives because I've heard arguments that it's more likely that the trans person will kill themselves. Actually no I heard the opposite they're more likely to kill themselves after the surgery. Is that true? I've not heard this statistic. I think that you probably know more about trans people. I heard it from the Daily Wire. Okay that is a reputable about I heard it from the daily wire. So I've just okay That is a reputable source

Yeah, it sounds like you know more about this stuff than I do tell you the truth I don't really do a lot of research I know about as much as someone who watches like YouTube shorts where the libtards are getting owned Well, I don't actually fact-check my info. I just hear it and I go with it Ah, you and I have that in common, too We have a lot in common Common ground you and me. Isn't that nice? I don't think we have common ground at all. You're right. I apologize Why why would what did you think we had in common for a second people? You know being ignorant and I'm not ignorant being fake people

I'm not fake at all. I mean, I sorry I know you're not just genuine this is a real hair everything is real I mean this is not that's that's what I'm trying I got why I mentioned this in specific really shitty wig I got yeah but why would you put that on I know you're trans and you want to look like a woman but that doesn't make you look like a woman that makes you look like a crazy person. I just wanted to fit in the vibe of the show. I saw you wearing that on other things too. What did you see me wearing this on?

I looked up your thing just to make sure who I knew I was having on and you were wearing that same twig. On what? What did you see me on? Tell everyone. I'm not going to give you a shout out on Instagram or something. Please, no, yeah, no, tell... But I just saw you doing...

I don't remember, maybe an interview? I don't know. Yep. I don't know. I'm saying you're not doing this for the show here. No, I, you know, I like the wig, you know. Why? But if you don't like it, I can take it off, if that's what...

I mean, I just think your goals aren't aligning with your actions I mean if you want to look like a woman I don't think that's the way to go how would I go about it do you have any advice for me my advice would be to check yourself back into reality okay start looking more like a man okay but if I was to advise you on how to look like a woman yes yes, I would recommend you to, I guess, get a better wig. I mean, that just you just look like a guy with dirty hair. It is a $40 wig on Amazon that I have not washed. This is the effort. How long have you not washed it for? Like, I don't know, a few months now. I have never watched this since I bought it. I don't know how to get the wig shampoo and stuff.

It's just kind of lazy. So, yeah. I mean, so are you recognizing that that's a crazy thing to do? Walking around with it? Yeah, I know, but you're trying, I mean, I guess you agree with it, so it's tough to argue. Does that suck?

I mean, do you want me to, I mean, I think you want to debate. I know you weren't gonna debate me. I mean, anybody who would be willing to like anybody who's going to end up debating me on it seriously, he's just going to leave after seven minutes. So I knew that wasn't where this was going. I'm just trying to understand because I feel like you're not being totally honest. I feel like you do disagree with me in some factors here. I disagree. I don't know. I guess I, uh guess I don't really want, I don't expect anyone to agree with anything I say.

I think. I don't really care either way. I feel what I feel and everyone else feels what they feel and I don't know who might I say who's right or wrong. Would you call him the N-word if he asked you to? Because that's what he identified as? Uh... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- Uh, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I mean, I think it's a good question. He would have to ask me.

Go ahead, yeah. He would have to ask you? Yeah. Well, I'm his boss, so I'll ask you on his behalf. I asked to come from him. Okay fine, it's coming from me. Can you call me the N-word? Because I now identify as black. Uh'm black too my brother. I don't know I

I would prefer to call you Matan. I start what I identify as. That's too bad you know. I identify as Jean-Marcus. Well I am gonna be morally inconsistent and and deny your identity. Why not? You were implying that if he asked you himself, because you thought he wouldn't talk, that you would do it, but then when I flipped it on you. Because, well, because I believe him

and I don't believe you. Yeah, but you can tell that he's obviously, you know, the one with more issues in his head than me, so why would you respect his craziness? I don't know if that's true. I don't know. Take one look at this guy. I feel like you guys are equally insane.

Should... I'm trying to think of how to word this. If somebody is crazy for other reasons, are you less likely to take them seriously if they're trans like long neck? Long neck? Who's long neck? The a who's long neck the guy with the long neck he won America's Got Talent oh I don't know who this is am I less likely to I guess it would at all depends on if I did on America's Got Talent what do you do he like shifted his neck around

and then made like a circle and he did a knot with his neck I didn't see that no. Really? I didn't see it. You want to meet long neck because we're gonna end the episode here to have on long neck so you'll run into him outside. Okay I can't wait thank you so much that's so nice of you to bring a celebrity to meet me I didn't know you like me so much. Well nice to meet you. It was nice to meet you too right you don't want to get AIDS right? I just don't want to get it I mean there's probably other things I don't know about that's just the most common one Yeah, okay, I don't want to get like hepatitis or something. Okay. I respect your your decisions there So this is it. That's it. Yeah, is like I get the fuck out of here. I guess yeah Well, just let long neck know how to where do I walk?

I guess to that door Yep