The Matan Show - Matan & Tommy Chong Get Robbed By Gangster Mid Podcast
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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Tommy Chong. Welcome in.
Yes, you can come in now. Thank you. Nice to meet you.
For today's co-host, we have my manager, Viral Flooring. Welcome in viral flooring.
Yeah, that's your mic if you want to just pull it close to yourself. It's in a little bit of a strange position.
Will I need it?
Yes, just to talk.
Will I get a chance to talk?
Yeah, to record audio.
So in case anybody doesn't know you, please introduce yourself and all that one.
I'm Tommy Chong, and I'm here in protest and duress.
Oh, no, that's a sovereign citizen.
No, I'm Tommy Chong.
And father or brother of Cheech Chong.
Blood related?
No, but, you know.
technically.
And I wanted to ask you, why did you decide to call a Cheech and Chong,
and not Chong and Tim?
Do you think you're better than Tim?
No, I'm a poet as well as a songwriter.
Right.
And a musician and Cheech and Chong just flows better.
What about Chong and Tim?
Do you think you're better than Tim?
No, it didn't sound right.
Because Tim thought he was better than Tim, or Eric thought he was better than Tim, from Tim and Eric?
Oh, yeah?
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Team thought he was better than Tim.
Yeah, well, no, I know. I'm older than Tim.
So that makes a difference, you know.
I'm older, not smarter.
He's smarter?
He's smarter?
Yeah, more educated.
You're more educated?
No, Cheech is really educated.
Like he's got a degree in English and he was a Jeopardy champion.
Okay, what about team in all of this?
Where does team come in?
Who?
Tim?
Tim.
Tim Hydecker from Team and Tim?
Oh, oh, no clue, man.
No clue, man.
Okay.
Because Tim has a show and he thinks he's better than Eric.
But he's Tim, but he named the team after himself.
But then he put Eric last.
So I was asking if you thought you were better than Tim
because you didn't even include him in the name.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
You'll have to excuse me a little bit because besides being old, I'm deaf.
Okay.
You have a hearing problem?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
You want me to?
I can speak louder if you, if it helps.
Yeah.
Okay.
But it won't make any difference.
I still won't understand shit.
Okay.
It's okay, though.
I've come to grips with it.
In fact, I kind of enjoy it.
Well, it seems like you've been understanding
what I've been saying so far for the most part.
Oh, yeah.
I read lips.
You were born in 1938 the year before World War II.
Who did you want to win at the time?
The war?
Yes.
At the time?
I really had no clue what war was.
was too young.
No, you just go with the flow.
Actually, I was a little older when my mother would take us to the movies.
And they had the newsreels.
And that's when we, you know, we, you know.
That's how you learned about the war?
Yeah, yeah.
And once it ended, I'm sure at that point you kind of understood it a little better at the time.
Were you regretful of who won?
I don't think anybody went, did they?
Well, just like who won, you know, like kind of it was the western side, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, no.
Would you have preferred Germany had won the war?
Nah.
With me, you know, at the time, I was too young.
I was more interested in what tiddy I was going to suck.
Right.
What about now?
Did you regret it?
I've got a really, I've been blessed.
and I have a lot of
insight
that I try to share
but
the wars
is a natural order
of things in our
in our
in this planet called
Earth
because this is a
physical planet
plane that we're on
and
and it's also
it's just
unfortunately the way it works out sometimes
What's that?
It's just unfortunate the way it works out sometimes.
Like Germany probably could have held all of Europe if they didn't go into Russia.
But held it for what?
They could have had all of Europe and then maybe if they had...
But there again, what are they trying to win?
What are they winning?
They were trying to make the world a better place is what, you know.
You think?
That's what they claimed.
Well, so was, you know, I don't know, I don't know.
No, you know what they're writing for?
It's very simple.
it's a haves against the have-nots right if you've got food and I don't have any food then I'm going to try to get your food right one way or another that makes sense that's and that's that's the nature of our existence you see in order to survive this physical plane that we're living in we have to accept
the fact that you have
positive and negative. And you have
to eat food. And you have to
eat. Right. In order to live.
Did you know
if a dog is too loud and you give it a lot
of weed, it will be quiet forever?
That's for sure.
Have you ever tried that before? It's something I've
done with my neighbor's dog. You did?
Yes. You give him too much of weed?
Well, I mean, off air, I'll have
to cut this. I did. I just put it, he was
an outside dog. I just put a lot
in his food bowl. And he ate it?
he in past tense
he's not with us anymore
yeah well dogs lead anything
yeah like humans
that's why humans are called dogs
sometimes because
they're very basic you know
yeah but I'm sort of an animal lover
so I didn't want to put chocolate in there
and give him a stomach egg
I'd rather give him weed so in his final hours
he doesn't even know what's happening
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I don't know if I agree with that.
I would say an animal is actually much less developed than a human.
Well, animals are an extension of humans.
Animals are put on to...
Actually, we're all here.
But the extension ends if the dog.
eat too much weed then he's no longer here that's no that's right the thing is we're all related
everybody anything alive on this planet we're related i don't know about i don't know if i would agree
with that like if i'm related to a bug yeah i don't know i don't think so well the the system you take
an ant colony for instance you know they have organizations but if you but the organization it's not
It's like imagine how tough it would be to take down a building
and then imagine how easy it is you just pour gatorade
and it will flood their systems.
You'll be able to kill the whole colony.
Why would you want to kill anybody?
I don't want ants in my house
and if I take them down from the outside of their field.
It's like, it's sort of like what the Germans were doing.
But the difference is that I'm fighting ants.
No, but the Germans, it was, again, you know, ignorance.
You learn from ignorance.
We're here to learn, by the way.
Right.
That's why everything is so imperfect,
because we're here to figure it out.
And, you know, that's the beauty of,
and when you come to the realization that everything is a lesson,
then there's no such thing as good or evil.
There just is.
Well, you know, maybe there was good at some point,
but it ended in the 40s.
Do scientists say weed is bad for young people because it destroys your frontal lobe or because they want all of the weed for themselves?
Who said that?
The scientists, they say that if you're under 25 and your frontal lobe isn't fully developed, you can mess with it.
But I think that maybe they just want all of the weed for themselves.
No, I know. Again, you know, the scientists that wrote that probably didn't smoke weed.
Right. Or they smoked a lot. You could go the other way because.
Because they're coherent
They said something that was brilliant
Oh so you agree with the scientists
I have no idea
I don't know who's right or who's wrong
You know it's way beyond my
Ability to
You know
So would you give weed to a baby would you say
I wouldn't give weed to anybody
You know
If they'd have
for it if they needed of course in fact by the way the reason we got it legal
was because the um cheese it cheese that cheese it cheese that
niggins got me going crazy for some cheeses bro what's up
okay that's sort of like a transaction gone wrong I guess I don't know
I'm not really involved with the whole cheesy I see I see why you got followers yeah
no I don't know that's not my follower I don't know what that is I don't know
that was a little strange oh yeah you weren't in the room huh I have I just
witnessed that that was that was odd I don't know what that was a big surprise yeah well
it's definitely a fits in with a studio look yeah it's a beautiful place it's
actually a complete contrast it's white versus
black.
In so many ways.
Right.
So many ways.
I love it.
Thank you.
That was good.
What did the Vietnamese banker say to the client?
Why did?
What did the Vietnamese banker say to the client?
I don't know what.
So we saw the information on this card is a one.
Do you get it?
No.
Because it's like a Vietnamese guy.
He doesn't really speak English well.
So he starts mixing the words and gives them different syllables.
Okay.
Okay, well move on.
Okay.
Excuse me for laughing, but...
No, it's okay.
That's good.
Have you ever dealt with a Vietnamese banker?
Uh, Vietnamese.
Vietnamese.
Vietnamese.
Vietnamese.
Vietnamese.
From Vienna.
No, not Vietnamese.
Like, uh, well, they were the enemies, but like the little guys in those tunnels,
they would do like little pop shots with little rifles.
Oh, oh, those, oh, the Vietnam.
Yes.
Oh, those guys.
Oh, yeah.
They're tough.
They were tough.
Well, think about it.
They've never been conquered.
Who wants to conquer that stuff?
No, everybody tried.
The Chinese, the Americans, and they kicked everybody's bass.
Everybody went running by.
America had to throw their helicopters off the boats so they could get the hell out of there.
The Vietnam War, correct me if I'm wrong, it was after World War II, right?
Yes.
So why didn't the Americans just send in a nuclear because they had already developed it?
because there's no
nuclear is the finish
of everything. No, but at that point not that
many countries had a nuclear, especially Vietnam.
Well, they had to do it with Japan because
Japan would never have stopped fighting.
Right. You know, they would have fought
till everybody. I'd argue they should have done a couple
more. You think?
Well, I think so. I mean, I think that
ideally, if they had done
one to Vietnam, then you would have saved all that
time and money? No, you wouldn't
have saved nothing. You would have dropped a new. They
would have been no Vietnamese war. No, no, no. Here's the thing. The Vietnam, Vietnamese got their
own land, and they've been fighting everybody ever since. Right. And by the way, as history's
proven out, you know, that when Jane Fonda was there, she knew the war was unjust.
on just meaning
there was no reason
for Americans
to be there
other than money
maybe they wanted the money
is that not okay
as you said
everybody has to get
what they need in life
yeah
so maybe actually
the Americans
deserve Vietnam
more than the Vietnamese
because look
70 years later
it's still not
greatly developed
I would argue
what
Vietnam
do you want to live
in Vietnam
I've been there
I love it
oh really
oh yeah
I haven't so I'm just
taking a guess
the food is
incredible. He gives you a bad stomachache. That's what I heard. No, you've got to, if you got
a stomachache egg, you've got to figure out more than food. No, Vietnam is a beautiful place.
That whole area, Laos and Cambodia, and it's very special too. You've been to those places?
Yeah. Okay. Well, I've been to, I've been, take it back, I've been to Vietnam. I've been on the
Make on Delta, the river.
And, yeah, yeah.
No, I've, I've come to grips with a lot of things.
And war, it's inevitable.
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Have you considered that since you're a bit older, you could probably do a crypto scam and get away with it?
Do a what?
A crypto scam?
See, you don't even know what it is.
That's the whole point.
Crypto?
Crypto.
I did crypto.
I got robbed, actually.
Oh, you got robbed.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Computer robbed.
Yeah.
It wasn't actually me.
It was my son.
But it was because of me that we had crypto.
And then some scam artists come along and.
So you actually
Well I was saying you could do it on the
Like you could be the scammer
Like you could post to all your followers
And then rug pull them
And they would probably not think it's your fault
Since you're older
They would assume that it's like a manager or something
And you wouldn't get any blame
I'm not worried about blame
I'm not worried about
Being rich
Especially
Right but you could make a couple million in a couple days
But then what would you do with it
See that's a problem we have now
Yeah I agree
I think that might be true, but I don't know.
I was just thinking because I'm always thinking
in terms of like money, like sort of how I talk
it's to make money and all of that stuff.
And with you, it's like it just seems
like you have a golden opportunity
because nobody would get upset at you
because you're in your 80s.
Nobody would say, hey, you know, fuck Chong.
He did a crypto scam.
They said, oh, he got taken advantage of.
You know what I mean?
You really have the golden opportunity here.
What good is money?
To buy a cheez-its.
Buy what?
Cheez-its.
Yeah, but you can also grow your own.
No, you can't grow a cheese, it.
Well, you can grow something crunchy and salty
because that's all you got there.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Instead of growing stuff and it's not the same, it's a...
What are you saving?
What do you mean?
Why, that's what I'm saying about money.
See, money can be, you know, in the...
Do you know what the eaching is?
Eaching?
Eaching.
No, I don't.
It's I-C-H-I-N-G.
It's called The Book of Changes.
Okay.
And the book of changes is written by a Chinese wise person 5,000 years ago.
And it tells your fortune.
In fact, I'll have you write it down, and you can go on the Internet and get the book.
It'll change your life.
Okay.
But the E. Ching, as for, it tells your fortune, tells what's coming your way.
And the E. Ching states that, like, winning the lottery is a misfortune.
Right.
And the reason is, is that you've got money, if you don't know what to do with money, it's useless, you know,
unless money is made out of cheeses and you can eat cheeses.
Yeah, but look at the issues happening.
There's a fight, another fight going on now.
about it he was so happy to get it and then he got it taken away look at his
smile fading is this how you're selling your cheeses this is not my that's my
manager I didn't even know he was in the cheezed business yeah maybe he likes you
because it's red like him it's the same color I love it at what age should
somebody stop smoking weed
Uh, any age.
Any age?
But is there like a cutoff point where it's like, maybe the guy's 180?
No, you got to remember.
The great thing about weed, marijuana, cannabis, is it is a medicine.
Okay.
It's not addicting, psychologically addicting, but it's not physically addicted.
I met some people who I would say are pretty addicted to weed.
Well, of choice, of choice, of choice.
Well, I would say that it's of choice, but their mind is so weak that they don't even
have the choice to fight it.
But that's better because then...
I'm talking about physically addiction.
Yes.
Okay.
For a long time, people said the worst thing about weed, it was a gateway drug that led
to the heavier stuff.
The heavier stuff, meaning anything that's like codeine or, not codeine, but cocaine,
and heroin.
Now, heroin is addiction.
is addicting, cocaine is addicting.
And when I mean addicting is that your body craves it to the point that you will rob banks.
But you also will rob banks and rob a store if you need something to eat.
So maybe actually that would suggest that cocaine isn't so bad.
To stay alive.
Yeah, but you need food to stay alive and those people need coke to stay alive.
If you're that hungry, you don't have the strengths to rob anybody.
Well, if you take a little bit of Coke, you'll get a lot of energy.
Is that not true?
What I was trying to say about weed is that you don't have to smoke it.
You do it by choice.
Right.
And freedom of the freedoms.
That's what we got as human beings.
We have the freedom to do what we want to do.
And weeds one of them.
Weed was always a medicine right up until America decided to demonize it and call it marijuana.
Because marijuana is a slang word, a Mexican word, that points everything to the Mexicans.
And you're saying when you make it suspicious, it's a little Mexican.
You're saying, you know, Mexicans are a little suspicious, so they put it over there.
No, well, the Mexicans are, well, look what Trump's doing with the ice, you know, arresting people because they're brown.
Right.
You know, he's doing it for headlines, but he's getting them.
Are you a Trump supporter?
Am I Trump supporter?
Yeah.
No, but I understand why he's here.
I understand what he's doing.
But I think he was saying here to save the entire world, not just America.
I'm hoping one day...
Oh, he is.
I think I want him to...
But you know how he's doing it?
He's doing it with...
It's just like there's the thing called negative publicity.
Yeah, but that doesn't matter because he already won the election.
So the publicity, all he needs to do now is save the world.
Oh, yeah, he'll do it.
but he'll sacrifice himself doing it.
He already has.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's how you know that he's a great person.
But it's not by choice.
But it's not by choice.
Yes.
He's going to sacrifice because he's being used by the universe to make things change in society.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying that he was already, he had basically, well, you saw a lot of people who consider the perfect life.
And he gave it away just to save the world to stop the Chinese, the Vietnamese,
But you know why he sacrificed it?
Because he was sent here to save everybody.
No, not at all.
I think so.
No, what it is is that his ego forced him in there.
I don't think he has even an ego.
I think almost it'll sound mean, but I mean this in a good way.
I think Trump maybe doesn't even have a brain.
It's just pure amazingness that he's helping him do everything.
It's like he doesn't even have instinct.
No, he only has instinct.
You know, he says he's got gut feeling?
Yeah, that's a good feeling.
all he has. He doesn't think he just knows where to
go. And he's being used
by the universe.
Yes, but not by anybody, because he's above
any other human around today.
The universe. That's why
Trump will say
only I can fix the world.
Only I can do it.
I know that feeling. I have the same
feeling, by the way.
Only I can understand.
Like with Cheech and Chong.
I
named us.
And it wasn't me, by the way.
The power that drives me.
Like I say, God.
Put me on a mission.
And what's your relationship like with Chong nowadays?
With Cheech.
Chong?
I'm Chong.
You're Chong?
Yeah.
So who's Chong?
Who is Chong?
Yeah.
Cheech.
Cheech me.
Who's that one?
Cheech is a Mexican.
Oh, so you're saying that your friend, Chong?
No, I'm Chong.
I'm Chong.
I'm Tommy Chong.
My partner is.
Yeah, I know that.
My partner's Cheech.
Yeah.
And our relationship today is...
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No, with Cheech, I'm sure you guys are doing well.
What's your relationship like with Chong, your friend?
Oh, with myself?
No, your friend from the movies.
Chong?
It's one in one.
It was same.
They're no separate people.
I thought you guys were a duo, Cheech and Chong.
I am.
And so I'm, what's my relationship with Chong?
Yes.
Uncomfortable.
What happened?
You guys had a falling out?
No, Chong got deaf and his eyes are going and his penis stopped working except for
peeing. The only thing he can do is pee.
Well, that's better than... At any time. I don't even have to ask, you know. I have to wear
a drawstring pants so I can whip it out whenever I need to. And I don't have to worry about
being arrested because I'll be acquitted for lack of evidence. So I'm okay. You could argue
insanity.
Not if you're insane.
No, that's how you argue it.
If you're insane, you don't know that you're arguing.
No, you could be insanely intelligent.
What about that?
You can be intelligently insane?
Yes, both work.
They mean a little different things, but yes.
Well, that's true.
If you had a Thai machine, would you go back and stop MLK?
Martin Luther King?
Yes.
Would I go back?
To stop him before what he did.
What did he do?
The Civil Rights Act and everything that followed.
Oh, you mean he complained about being treated like an animal?
Well, you know, the world isn't always fair.
Sometimes you take what you get and you don't get upset.
I guess he didn't learn that in school.
You get what you get and you don't get upset.
Did you go to school?
I went to up until.
like a ninth grade sort of me too okay so we actually had a similar no I actually I went back
I tried to get my high school I got grade 10 I squeaked through grade 10 and then halfway through
11 I said I gave up that's when I discovered pot that's the exact same thing that happened with me
just without the pot that's what happened I've never smoked before so it's um very similar though
I quit in 10th grade and then 11th I just stopped doing all of the work okay
So they've been sending me mail
asking if I'm coming back
But now I'm 18, so it doesn't matter anymore
You're 18?
Yes
Oh, you're a youngster
Wow
And you're this far
I appreciate
A lot of people think I'm a little bit older
You know I
You know, some people think I'm lying about my age
But I'm not, it's just like
You know, business and stuff like that one
Oh, you got lots to learn, haven't you?
Yes
Yeah, you got that 16 year old hair
Yeah
Yeah, that's good.
I think, hopefully it will stay for a long time, but I'm not sure.
Enjoy.
Enjoy why you got it.
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Isn't your last name a little racist?
Chong?
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
Probably put me in jail for nine months.
Did you know?
You went to jail because of your name?
Probably.
I mean, they called it for selling bongs.
So that's why you went to jail?
No, think about it.
No one else went to jail.
And there were, like, a lot of bong sellers.
They're still selling bongs, by the way.
But Bush was doing his Iraqi war.
And then he was trying to do what Nixon did with the hippies.
And so I was the only guy around, you know, selling bongs.
And so he attacked me or put me in jail.
Were you families at the time?
Were you famis at the time?
Oh, yeah.
Also, but you know, when you consider what you consider what Bush did in the Iraqi war,
he was similar to Trump.
He was trying to also stop the terrorists.
That's what I heard.
I mean, he didn't drop a nuclear, but he actually killed way more people than the nukes in Japan, if you think about it.
Yeah, that's true.
But, no, those guys, it's all about money.
Yeah.
It always has been, always will be.
But that's what fuels America, you know, it's the money.
Oh, the world, actually.
Did the ambulance ever consider it's not nice to make such a loud noise?
It's not nice to make such a loud noise.
It's like it's giving me a headache, man.
Maybe lower the noise and just speed up a little bit.
You'll get there faster.
What does the noise help?
I, you got me there, pal.
Yeah.
Because I was outside recently and he gave me a headache.
It's like, what do I do?
I can't call the ambulance over a headache.
I have to go to the store and buy in Adville now
and they're making money just to help some guy
because he fell, but now I want,
it's like it doesn't make any sense.
Well, just look in the mirror and say,
I got good hair.
Yeah.
That's all you got to do.
I want to go to the fire station and make an issue,
but I don't know if that's a good idea.
To try and fight the firefighters?
The firefighters, oh, man, again, you know.
Hey, guys, stop making such a loud noise.
That siren?
Yeah, he's giving me a headache.
It's too loud.
Well, rejoice that you can hear them because there's a come a time when...
Yeah, but they made you deaf maybe.
Did you think about that?
No, the bass.
Okay.
Guitar.
It could be a little bit of both.
That's what made me deaf, loud, loud.
music. I played music. Like loud sirens from an, like an ambulance or a fire truck.
Actually, they saved my life because I can hear them. It's stuff you can't hear that
kills you. I don't agree with that. Okay. Do you think politics was better back in your day
when you could tell a woman to stop kidding around or you would take their life?
I never really even came close to that kind of
situation.
Really?
That's pretty surprising.
No, no.
I, uh...
Had I been around,
I would have taken advantage
of the opportunity.
Really?
And?
I would have told them,
stop kidding around her.
I'm going to take your life.
I would have been pretty clear about it.
And, you know...
You don't want to...
No, no, no, no.
Although, you're right.
Women, girls,
ladies, especially beautiful ones,
they...
Talking, shut up.
They like to be noticed, but they don't like to be noticed stating the obvious.
If you want to make waves with a beautiful woman, find the flaw, whatever it is.
That's true, or you could just threaten them because then they're not going to really be able to do anything.
If you go up to a beautiful woman and you go like this and you show a gun, and they don't really have a defense, then it's, I mean, that's even simpler than trying to make.
make a conversation.
That's scary.
So what?
What's the matter?
Well, a gun is scary anyway.
Yeah, but that's the whole point to scare them.
I was on Joe Rogan's show one time, and he's a gun enthusiast, you know, and he started
berating me kind of about not because I don't believe in that kind of violence.
You don't believe people should have a gun?
No.
I'm a big Second Amendment guy.
I think the world would be safer if everybody had a gun because then,
And it will also be kind of funny a little bit.
Well, you know, it's nice knowing you, though.
Yeah, because, I mean, if somebody gets upset and then they try to shoot you, you get to shoot them back.
It'll be like the Wild West.
If you got a love for guns, then you're not long for this planet, you know.
I don't know any myself.
I think there's some struggle.
Because, you know, most suicides are cops and ex-military that have access to weapons.
Because they have PTSD from the Vietnamese.
Or whatever they have.
They have the, it could be karma too,
but they have the ability to take their own life at any time.
And to me, it's like standing on the edge of a five-star or a five- or a ten-story building.
Because you could just shoot yourself at any point?
Well, no, the thing is, if it's easy to do, you will eventually do it.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Because what if you have a gun, but you can't use it?
They didn't give you any bullets.
So it's just to scare people?
That will seem intimidating.
That would be a good way to intimidate a woman in today's world.
No, well, not the kind of woman you want.
Any woman will be intimidated by that, I think.
I think it will work on just about anybody, besides one who has a gun with me.
Hey, come over here, baby, take off your clothes, come on.
Oh, boy.
Well, anyway, this explains the studio.
That's one for sure.
If God created wheat to help people become closer to him, why did he create bath salts?
Bath salts?
Yeah.
To bath in or?
No, those drugs that make you eat people?
Oh, that.
Oh.
Again, it's probably all a form of self-destruction.
Self-help.
Self-destruction.
Why destruction?
Because that's what, baths, drugs are baths, a gun.
See, it's just
It's the exit
It's the exit from this living life
To the spiritual life
But could you imagine how funny it would be
If everybody was on basaltz and had a gun
Well, I can
Direct you to some neighborhoods
Where you could have that experience
I don't know if they would be on basalt
But that's what I'm saying
If you give a guy with
On Basaltzal's a gun
He's not going to be self-destructive
He will kill somebody and then eat them
He's destroying somebody else.
It's actually like other destructive.
You can't be surprised at human.
Big in Hungary.
Well, human activity.
Because every tribe, every group of individuals all have their crazies.
And the humans definitely have them.
Do you think Magic Johnson was so good?
because the other players didn't want to get near him.
Magic Johnson was, no, Magic Johnson was good
because he could take that ball called a basketball
and he could throw it in a hoop and make a lot of points.
Yeah, but usually players will defend you.
They'll try to obscure your vision,
but with Magic Johnson, it's like they're staying away.
They're like trying to, they're trying to maybe get in his head.
They're like, shoot it, you can't shoot it.
Shoot it.
And then when he's posting them up with the ball,
they're actually, they don't know what to do.
I imagine, you know, well, those kind of events
or those kind of things divide people, you know.
If you got to, well, that's what racism is, by the way.
I think there's a difference in racism.
Racism is pure ignorance.
It's pure ignorance.
And you get scared like the boogeyman under the bed
doesn't exist, but in your mind, you see your mind
that's where everything
No, but Magic Johnson really did have AIDS
Yeah
But that's what I'm saying
There's no boogeyman there
That's under the bed
It's very obvious
If he bleeds and he gets it on you
Because it's over
Your life is over
That's it
Not just magic
Magic wasn't the only one with AIDS
Yeah all the other gay people
But I'm just
And you don't know
What do you mean
You don't know who's got AIDS
Yeah gay people
Not just gays
Maybe they're dogs
Babies.
Babies don't have AIDS.
Unless it's an unfortunate event where the baby was.
There's been babies with AIDS.
People grow.
Yeah, no, no.
I don't think so.
It's a human thing.
It's a human thing.
But you got to, no, no, I see magic every once in a well at the gym.
Oh, really?
Yep.
You keep your distance.
I won't go near her.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
Definitely won't kiss them.
Yes.
On the lips anyway.
Yeah, because then you'll get AIDS and die.
And that's why the other players didn't want to.
And if I did kiss him on the lips, I wouldn't.
and enjoy it.
Yeah.
You're not gay, right?
I would purposely think.
You're not gay?
Technically, no.
Okay, that's good.
Nice to hear that.
But I've thought about it.
Well, you know, you thought about how bad that would be your entire life.
Especially when I'm a master being gay.
That's probably the most gay thing that anybody's ever done.
Well, not if it's too not gay stuff.
Right?
That's true.
Right.
I'll take it from an expert.
No, I'm not an expert.
I try to stay away from all that stuff just in general.
You're 18 and you don't know.
I think it's bad for the mind.
I think it messes up your mind.
If Albert Einstein invented a nuclear bomb, who invented Albert Einstein?
If Albert Einstein invented the nuclear bomb?
Who invented Albert Einstein?
God?
Okay.
Should people who have sacked with their dogs
make sure they're on birth control?
They're dogs on birth control?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I guess the best birth control is abstinence.
Well, some people are crazy, you know.
They have a dog and the dog,
maybe he even said it's fine, so maybe it's okay.
As you said, the humans are able to communicate with the dog.
I did hear a story one time,
where these guys paid, oh no, it's too sick, this story, I can't even tell you.
They paid a dog?
No, I can't tell you.
It's too sick.
Let's move on.
But look, he's so excited.
Maybe he relates.
No.
No, it concerns dogs and it'll blow shit.
Oh, okay.
Somebody paid somebody to give a dog.
That's a little strange.
That's a little weird.
Yeah.
But that's because, you know.
But it ruined the dog.
It ruined the dog.
What does that mean?
The dog was upset?
The dog was useless, man.
Okay.
He thought everybody was going to give him a bloke
or something.
The dog thought that?
I don't really understand you.
Okay.
Let's move on.
Okay.
Treat me like a fool.
Treat me meaning cruel.
But love me.
What would happen to the human body if someone smoked a pound of weed per day?
A pound of weed per day.
Well, they'd be, probably die from munchies, probably.
Smoking it, not eating edibles.
No, if you're smoking and you keep smoking, then it's not good weed.
Why not? What if the guy has a lot of money?
It doesn't matter about money. It's about physically ability.
I don't understand.
If you hit the right, if you get the right,
strain of weed
one toke is all you
need
because it goes to the brain
it affects the brain
boom
you'll spend the rest of the day looking for
something to crunch on to eat
you know or drink
or yeah
so could be smart if somebody opens a restaurant
that they actually they slip
some weed into the food because then the people
will get more hungry and order more food
Yeah, but the thing is about weed
You don't treat it like that
You know
Why not?
Respect
Yeah, well
I guess he's not super respectful
But that's kind of the point here
It's like to make money
But that's what I mean
You smoke weed and you lose that
You lose that ability
To want to make money
No, to be stupid
You know
Right away weed will give you
Instinctively
See a lot
A lot of times people have problems because they don't drink enough water.
Right.
And weed will give you cotton mouse and will make you drink water.
That's a little racist.
Yeah.
Racist?
Yeah. Cotton mouse?
Is that like a...
Cotton mouse?
Some sort of slur for MLK?
Cotton?
Oh, you mean black?
Well, I don't know.
Well, they were the first to really...
from Africa and they probably brought the plants with them and you know the little guys walk around
naked basically and all they got is their bow and arrow and yet they smoke weed and so I asked
someone from South Africa how do they smoke it do they have pipes because I for a while there
I was collecting pipes from all over I still am but not as much but I said do the Kalahari
natives have pipes and they said no so how do they smoke their weed what they do they'd take
some mud and put it up against a rock and stick a twig and make a mud pipe right and then they
put the weed in the in the bowl of the mud pipe fire it up and smoke it yeah i think that
i mean i don't really want to get into the africans but they're like a little
I mean, they're like a little crazy for being honest.
Or the Kalaharii, the natives?
Oh, the natives are a whole different issue.
Don't get me started.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's like move on from the thing.
That was 300 years ago.
Find somewhere else to live.
That's true.
Stop trying to sell me that medicine in the bottle.
I know it's just a piece of a carrot.
How can Sunday be two days after Friday,
but one day before Monday?
which is four days before Friday.
Well, that's just the way the big old ball bounces, I guess.
But it doesn't make any sense because the day is there.
Well, Sunday was supposed to be the day of rest.
So you're saying Sunday doesn't count.
So actually Sunday is one day after Friday because you don't count Sunday itself.
And then Monday is four days before Friday, so that makes an even weirder thing.
How does that make any sense?
Well, we don't have to worry about that now,
Because the way AI and the computers have brought us,
we don't need work days anymore.
Why is that?
We don't need work spaces anymore.
Because we can do everything in our car.
People go to court now.
They sit in their car and go on the iPad.
I don't think those people are going to win the case.
I think those people are going to go to jail.
Sure.
For worse than they're even going.
They're going for like stealing 50 bucks.
They're indicted for murder.
That's true.
Usually you're for laying.
Now, I'm generally, I don't really have an issue with weed smokers.
I don't do it myself, but what about long neck?
Did you ever hear what happened to long neck?
Who?
Long neck?
Long necks?
No, the guy, the, he was formerly the president of Lagos.
And?
He smoked a lot of weed, and then what happened is his neck started to get really long.
He started to lose all the weight.
And now he's in a wheelchair and he's like this all of the time.
time. From weed.
Yeah, and he goes, and he's
asked, he goes, I get some more
weed. What about him?
What should they kill him? Well, there's
always a good, there's always a good
side to everything. Number one,
if he flies a plane, he doesn't
have to walk anywhere.
They wheel him. He gets to
go on first on the airplane.
He gets to go on. He's a war criminal.
So he's not allowed in any other countries.
Oh, so he doesn't have to fly. So that's
another good thing. No, but he's not allowed to fly
because he's a war criminal.
He's a war criminal. He's a
Work criminal? Yeah. Well, then he's going to go to jail or they're going to kill him. No, but they love him in Lagos. They just don't like him anywhere else. Yeah. Well, then that's all he needs to stay in Lagos. Yeah, I guess. Well, you know, I don't know. I feel kind of bad for the guy because I don't really care. I don't know what or care what he did. It's like something to do with the natives over there. And now he makes video, like he used to be the president and now he makes videos where like the guy with the white neck picks him up and slams him. Yeah. Well, that's life. Yeah. And the human.
The human realm.
So what do you say to the people that are scared if they smoke weed,
they'll be like a long neck?
I really don't care about anybody.
Right. I agree with that.
Everybody's here to learn the lesson that they're given.
And whatever that lesson is, if it be having a long neck and that.
You know, I figured out back, you know, back in the, you know, back in the, you know, back in
way before
when I was a kid
yeah
there was
tribes in Borneo
mostly
in Africa
that would
disfigure themselves
they would put
necklaces on
because their IQ
is like 70.6
till their neck got really long
yeah and just like
the Chinese women
the Chinese women
used to make
their bind their feet
so they would have tiny feet
and you know why?
I don't know because they're seeking the head
no. Okay
if you were
close to the
king
the royal court
big feet was a sign of
ugliness and so if you
had small dainty feet
then you were considered royalty
yeah well long that
small feet. I mean, his whole body is disfigured. Like, imagine a very skinny guy with a very
long neck just like this all the time. But I'm telling you why the, the guy with the long
neck, people in Africa would do it on purpose. And you know why? Because they're crazy?
Why would they, no, why would they defigure themselves? I'll tell you what.
They thought that like the, the worm God told them to do it. I'm not really sure.
slave trade.
Oh, yeah, that was pretty cool.
They were being hunted by slave traders of all national.
So they wanted to be able to be on the lookout?
No, all that, what it was is that if you were disfigured,
you weren't worth anything on the market, unless the circus bought you.
And that's probably what they would do.
And so they purposely, that's with the bone in the nose and all that weird shit.
So then I mean, but you make a good point.
That would be a funny circus?
No, you couldn't sell them on the trade thing.
That's why the straighter or the better.
Unless it was a circus, as you said.
Oh, yeah, the circus.
The circus is like a bunch of disfigured African people.
That's what made circuses.
Yeah, yeah.
Would you go?
I would go see a show there.
Yeah.
Would you?
Yes, I did.
Yeah, well, anyways, thanks for coming on.
I appreciate it.
We have long neck coming in in five minutes.
Who? Long neck, the war criminal.
Well, good luck for them.
He has a horrible...
Are we done?
Yeah, we're done. I've never met him, but I've heard he has a horrible smell, so just be careful when you meet him outside.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm used to freaks.
Yeah.
No, but he's white, actually. He's not African.
Well, I'm used to...
Despite living in Lagos.
Listen, I'm an equal opportunity big.
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