The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Astros Are On A 3 Game Lost Streak Falling 17-18, Can They Grab A Win Today Hopefully Grabbing Their Momentum Back?

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Astros Are On A 3 Game Lost Streak Falling 17-18, Can They Grab A Win Today Hopefully Grabbing Their Momentum Back?

10-01 in H-town. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to a Wednesday edition of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. It is a snack-size edition of the program. As we take you until 11 o'clock, we've got Astros on deck from 11 until 1140, and then on to do first pitch at 1210 from some insurance named Stadium that used to be called a beer, and it's whatever it is, Ross, it's just not a great place to watch Houston Astros baseball. Another setback against the Miliwake Brewers,

last night in the Upper Midwest. Yes, first pitch, 1210, first bunt, about 1212, I believe, here on Sports Talk 790. Okay, okay. Out of the gates, I'm sorry. Well, I was going to go out of the gates either on that or... Tyrese Halliburton? No, I mean, that will be probably a glancing mention at best. I did this last one of the 10th inning show.

How'd that go, by the way? brief? Okay. Is that okay with it? Is that okay if I say it that way? Trunkated, as the kids say? As you have said many, many times, if there are people calling and want to talk baseball and or basketball,

we're here for you. It's a post-game call-in show. But that show is 99% call-in and 1% monologing. And so I did it. It depends on when you slice of the pot. I did the 100% monologin and played a couple of interviews and said, hey, here's the number, call in. And if you don't call in, we say good night and get some good rest.

So that's what we've done the last two nights. Okay. You said, see you later. Do you ever, see you use Robert Ford's line. I can't help it. I don't know. You ever do nothing but nylon when I'm not around or nothing, or you just like, that's not a great cliche term.

Well, if somebody's leaving, if you're going to leave the show, I'm not going to say, all right, guys, shows over. Nothing but nylon. That doesn't make any sense. Or you could say that guy is not going on that. girl all right guys you have a good time i'm leaving the bar nothing but nylon no matt that that doesn't make any sense all right well maybe you know what it'll be by the time next season comes around i will have to figure out a way to give you a cliche terms you can run around tell your friends all that

things okay all right so back to my original i open the show with i said this and you know how i feel about this person i literally love hose al tuvei however i'm not done in my mind he's the greatest disaster of all time. He's going to, I think, get very close to 3,000 hits. He is going to be a guy that it was with this team in the lean times and the good times, the great times and whatever we're calling this right now, the 500 times. He is going to be a guy that you could rely on in terms of durability, in terms of regular season play, and the most important thing that puts him over the top over Baguom Bigio for me

is what he was able to contribute, generally speaking over his postseason career. Okay. With that being said, he's my favorite player who has one negative thing that's in his column that is so negative,

it drives me insane. He's the worst base runner I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm laughing because I don't know how to dispute that. And I'm not saying yesterday was atrocious or the worst I've ever seen because unfortunately he's done a lot worse. Yeah, that's true.

But I literally love Jose Al-Tube. I literally hate the way he runs on the base pads. Contrarius is a good catcher, by the way. So you've got to be really careful when you're trying to snag extra 90 feet. You better damn well make sure that ball is well away from him, like maybe to the backstop, you know what I'm saying? Yes.

but a key, key out in that inning yesterday was him ending tagged out at second base. Not the reason why they lost, but a factor. Then to go along with what you were saying, the back-to-back bunts that the local line put out there yesterday, Rossi. I am not 100% against buntz. I'm 85% against bounce. I can bunt in a close one-run game.

I can bunt in extra innings. I can bunt when I've got guys behind me that I know that aren't great contact, that I need to get the extra 90 feet. I am not the no bunt, no chance, no way, no how. Like, that's how I feel about the wave. I never want to see the wave. I don't care what the scenario is. I can buy into slight bunt usage,

not down for nothing. And certainly not Ross in a back-to-back and bad situation. Yeah. I was just it was just unthinkable. I couldn't believe what I was watching is the way that I would put it.

I mean, what was going through both Pena and Altuvae's mind? You know what's happening is there, it's a collective struggle offensively and somebody's trying to light some fire under the squad. Yeah, pressing. that frankly to get the extra 90 feet is good because it's probably at this point in their minds it's a lot easier for me to get my guy over with the bun than it would be if I'm trying

to spack the ball to let the right center field because right now the team just doesn't do a whole lot of that yeah but Jeremy Payne has been good he's been one of the hottest hitters on the team that makes it even more inexplicable there are they're out of sorts doesn't mean they can't come back from it doesn't mean they're a hot mess. I mean, they're just, now they're unfortunately a little under average because they went under 500 yesterday after losing.

And to be clear, those calls did not come from the dugout. I don't think they could have. I can't imagine, and again, Joe's going to protect because that's what managers did. I cannot imagine there was back-to-back, bunt calls

from the dugout. So thus, here we are. And you're boy Jake Myers, who, I mean, and maybe, not maybe, the expectation levels are clearly significantly higher because of his terrific range and the ability to make the hard catch look easy. And another thing, he could have made the play out in left center field because it was an awkward angle and that's a part of that. It's right there where the divot is.

Yeah. And the outfield fence. It was weird. Weird. It was a regular fence, he would have hit it. A wall, I should say. So maybe that's what he was anticipating. And clearly he, you know, he didn't seem 100% comfortable out there because that's not his home ballpark.

No, not his home ballpark. It was a strange part of the left center field area. But that could have made a difference if he made. Yes. I mean, definitely. I mean, you know, Brendan Rogers hits a home run yesterday and you're all of a sudden, okay. But again, that's to my point of what happened last night is when a team is struggling and now the Astros have dropped five of their last six, you're looking at these things through a microscope

and you're going, okay, that was a difference. The getting caught stealing at second base, especially because Paredes walked after that, and I think it was who did Christian Walker get a base it after that? Yes, I think so. That would have been, worst case, Rossi, had the bases loaded, and only one out. The Myers-None catch, the back-to-back buntz,

there's just, when you are struggling offensively, the little things matter. And everything in the intangibles and the quote unquote little things category the Astros went zero for three. Or in a bunch case, zero for four if you count two buns. Yeah, it happens over the course of a baseball season

where just certain nights, everything goes against you, and that's what it kind of felt like last night. So needless to say, it was aggravating, and I was able to get a little bit of a monologue off there, and I did my 1%. And then I said, hey, here are the phone lines.

Come on in and join me, either the city, Houston, was enthralled in the rock, the NBA playoff game last night or the games, or they were watching something on YouTube, or they just don't want to be on our radio station at 10 o'clock at night to complain about the asteros. Whatever the case may be, you are, you do you, as we say. It has been a little bit of a, not a little bit,

I think it's been a significant drop-off in the firing brimstone of the local nine. When you're average, it's hard to get inspired one way of the other. And that's where we are. We mentioned on the show yesterday. So you got to get this one today? I mean, it's not a must-win. We don't have, we don't do must-wins in baseball. More Astros baseball. Coming up here, Hawksford-Ton-19. We want you to listen. We want you to love them. We want you to embrace them. As Julia Morales would say, if they win today, it'll be a happy flight. Not a happy road trip, but a happy flight.

Robber Valdez on the hill. You never know what you're going to get. Let's go. It's, is he the forest gum box of chocolate? Well, you know, I really spent all off-season and a lot of last year saying, hey, since that bad start was against the Angels or whoever

where he gave up three home runs in an inning, he was really good consistently. So I said, hey, it's overblown. You guys are talking about up and down, Framber. Nah, he's normally really good when he goes out there. This year, he has been up and down Framber. That's what I get for defending him.

That's fine. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, when Fromber is at his best, he is as tough of a baseball pitchers, you'll find in baseball. Yeah, locked in Fromba is just unhittable. And he's, you're just going to... ...his head or somethings tend to snowball, then it becomes hitable fronber to frustrated fromber to he's throwing up Bollipops. If you think things were bad for the current Astros, a former Astro has a former Astro

has a line score of his performance yesterday that I have never seen as bad as I've ever seen it ever for any major league player, much less a former Astro, and at one point, a former Astro great. We'll tell you about that after Ross tells you about one of our great sports talk 790 sponsors. Matt and Ross with you here. It is a snack-size edition of the show. We are with you just until 11 o'clock to begin into Astros mode.

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What happened? So the game was 5-5 and it went to extra innings. I mean, and it went to 11 innings so you know you're going to be tacked. junior bullpen. Yes. You get the ghost runner. You do. The Chicago Cubs used

one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight pitchers yesterday. Their starter went five. The relievers had to cover the other six. Now, that may sound familiar because the Astero starters have not gone super long. The second to last pitcher that threw for the Chicago

Cubs last night was Ryan Presley. Rossi, he suffered the loss. He's now 2 and 2 on the year. That's unfortunate. It's going to happen. Number of innings pitched. 0.0.

Now, he faced eight batters. Stay with me on this. That's not good. So even though he is technically 0.0, he was on the mound for eight different folks. In the 0.0, meaning he did not record an out. Ryan Presley gave up five hits, nine runs, eight of which were earned,

one walk, no strikeouts, no home runs. They just beat the hell out of him for eight batters. He only threw 26 pitches and eight batters, Ross. So was he just grooming him down Main Street? It had to have been that case. I mean,

there had been slippage in his game. the last couple of years, but not this bad. I mean, and I'm a Ryan Presley guy. We love Ryan Presley guy. Ryan used to listen to show all the time. And then he got kind of grumpy towards the end, but it wasn't our fault. And then he was mad that Josh Hader, the best closer in baseball, took his closing job. Get over yourself, Ryan Presley.

Yeah, it didn't particularly end well, and the trade happened. Rossi, his ERA is now 7.62. I don't know what it was beforehand. I guess I could figure it out, but I don't need to for the sake of this short program. Yeah, you got to calculate infinite. infinity out of there somehow. But you tell me, have you ever seen

a late game relievers line score as bad as that in my entire life? Now, we've seen starters get ripped like this. No, you are correct to think that history was made. Apparently it ties a

major league record. Oh, snap. Of giving up nine runs or more without recording an out. Matt, are you familiar with Hank Borrowee? Hank Borrowie? Hank Borrow.

He's an enterprise and young fellow. Hank Borey, well, he was one of the finest pitches in the land. Well, clearly he wasn't because he holds this distinction. In that 1951 for the Detroit Tigers, he gave up nine earned runs without recording an out. That ties the Major League record. Or Ryan Presley tied his Major League record last night. Well, it says on the box score here, and I don't know if this is inaccurate,

but it says nine runs, eight of which were earned. There must be there was an air somewhere in the mix, maybe. Okay, well, I guess it's just nine plus runs. Sorry. Then you're right. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. And that all earned.

Good for him, I guess. Well, I mean, the area could have been worse if it was all nine. He is the only relief pitcher to ever allow eight plus runs in a game and not recording out and get credit for the loss. So there is some history being made after all. Isn't it a crazy baseball? When you said history in baseball, which has been around since like 1868?

You've achieved something. Yeah. I mean, they're going to the games and horse and carriage back in the day, and you did something even those guys never did. Congratulations, Ryan Presley. You are in the history books. Yeah.

By the way, Justin Verlander started that game for the Giants. He got another no decision. That was his eighth start of the season. He's 0 and 2 with an ERA of 4.50. So he is still stuck on 260. two career wins. That's a shame. He ain't getting $300.

No. I think we're not going to see 300 ever again, are we? Nope. I don't think, Rossi, I don't think we're going to get close. I think the new is going to be, the new number is going to be $250. Yeah, he was the last, I don't

even think anybody's, I don't know if anybody's getting $250. So, again, that's probably more thought I would ever give into a Cubs Giants game, but I just saw that box score, and I'm like, are you kidding me? How'd Kyle Tucker do? Do you want to know? Not really.

Yeah. Kershaw has 212 wins. Scherzer has 216. I don't even know if anybody's getting to 250, Matt. Well, Scherzer can't stay healthy. Yeah, and those are the two leaders.

Next up would be Garrett Cole at 153. He's 34 years old. It ain't happening. Kyle Tucker, two for four? Well, that's good. RBI. What's his OPS? I'm just asking a question.

Batting average, 290? Mm-hmm. OPS? 958. MVP candidate. Good for him. How'd Hayden was Nesky do?

Four innings? Cam Smith is hitting 212. Esoc Perae has been good. I'm sorry. Kyle Tucker this year for the Cubs, nine home runs, 31 RBIs. He's drawn 27 walks.

I mentioned the OPS at 9.58. He's getting paid. He also has he have nine stolen bases, too. Is that right? Oh, my God. Kyle Tucker's got nine stolen bases. This, I'm not, you know what? I'm done.

That's it. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not looking at Kyle Tucker and or Alex Brugman numbers anymore this year. Because Lord knows he'll be popping up on my ESPN web page every other minute. You don't want a Bragman update. Is he your top five MVP candidate right now? That's enough from you.

I don't even need Kyle. How's he doing today? Man, this lineup would be... Imagine this lineup with Alex Bregman and Kyle Tucker in it. Wouldn't that be wild? All right, I'm mixing out of the Cubs box score. I'm mixing out of Justin Verlander. I'm mixing out of MLB stats.

Yeah, just mute the word Kyle Tucker on your timeline at this point. That's okay, I'm fine. 713-212-5-790 as we've already tried to clinically depress you. We've only got a half hour left to go on the show today. Let's go, Ross. We have the entire playoffs of last night. We also have a major trade in the NFL. Yes.

Interesting that there is not a part two to that interesting big training in the NFL. We'll tell you about that. 713-212-5-79 if you want to jump into the conversation. Come on, we've only got a half hour left until we get to Asterozondek. So we need you to come in and say hello at 7-13-212-5-7-90. Matt Ross with you on a snack-size edition of the program. We're with you until 11 o'clock into Asterozondek at 11. So if you'd like to join us, whether it be about the Astro frustration or, right.

Brian Presley's box score or a couple of the things. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. George Pickens leaves the Pittsburgh Steelers Ross for the Dallas Cowboys. A couple of mid-round draft picks for that. Pickens? And not that I spend a lot of time watching Pittsburgh Steelers football, but we have got good friends that are Steelers fans, right, Rossi?

Yes. They have a national following. Mm-hmm. that group of people, meaning Steele or Nation, whatever they call themselves, they either love

every minute of George Pickens on the field or they can't wait to get his ass off the field. I think it's probably more of the latter. He's good, yeah, when he makes plays and when he's focused,

but there's a lot of people in NFL circles who have highlights of him not blocking, disinterested in plays when the ball's not going to him and not putting in full effort, but when he,

streaks down the field and when he plays well and when things are going his way, he's a dynamic talent. Some call him the Jalen Green of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's a risky prop because you're giving away those draft picks. Remember, these draft picks are treated

like gold no matter what rounds they are. And the crazy part of it is is that when this trade came down this morning a lot of folks said, hey, did George sign a new deal with the conboys? And at this point, it being 1034 on this Wednesday, he is only scheduled to stay with the Cowboys this year.

Kind of a wait-in-see mode. Very similar, not completely, but very similar to the U.S.S. Define Diggs move where the Texans decided to void out the last couple years of the contract and said, hey, we're going to see what you can do for us on a one-year deal. So a third and a fifth for a George Pickens and a sixth. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. I mean, for a guy that is so often disinterested in being on the field, that's pretty crazy. I'm telling you, the time that I watch the Pittsburgh Steelers, which typically is, you know, they're on national TV quite a bit because, again, they've got a strong following. It is alarming how often they show him just sitting out there and just being a bystandard. It's troubling to me that a guy that is as freakishly athletic as he is just doesn't want to play every snap. Yeah, I mean, it happens, and we've seen it before. And clearly, also, when it's a guy who's maybe had some attitude problems and some issues, it's like, here come to Dallas Cowboys.

Feels right. If you want to say, name a perfect place for him to play, the Cowboys are the top of the list, right? Jerry Jones just loves him like some kind of broken player or some kind of flawed players. It's almost like, hey, we'll fix him. And you know what? I can fix him. There are a lot of teams that have that philosophy. I can fix him.

In 2025, and maybe the last 10 years in sports in general, regardless of the sport, I think we're seeing less of that. I think we're seeing less of the bring him under our wing. We'll fix him. Yeah. It usually would be the Cowboys and the Raiders throughout history, right? Yeah. Again, I'm, here's the thing.

You now have a second great receiver there in Dallas, but you now, in Pittsburgh, you got no, I mean, again, I don't have their depth turn in front of me, but he was still, even though he was mailing in Pickens or whatever you want to call him, he still could take over game. Yeah, he still get a thousand yards and he can get you, he hasn't gotten 10 touchdowns in a season, but he can, he has that type of quality. Yeah. This could end up being a good deal for them. And it depends on how much they're going to pay them. I mean, the Cowboys are cash-drapped because Dak Prescott is like the highest paid quarterback. They just paid C.D. Lamb, too, right? And did Michael Parsons get a big deal? I can't remember.

But, I mean, here's the thing. It'll be his best quarterback he's ever played for. The problem is, is can Dak Prescott say on the football field for 17 games? Matt, it's a violent sport. I didn't stutter. Speaking of saying on the field, a quick note coming out of Milwaukee, Joe Espada talking about the MRI from Yordon Alvarez. Good news. It is a muscle strain in the top of his right hand.

Astros hope he can be swinging a bat when they return home from the road trip. And that'll be this weekend against Cincinnati. Yeah, that from Chandlerone. Save that little nugget for our on-deck show, Ross, because I'll let you handle the injury report. How about that? Oh, thanks for let me know. Pull it right up. We were going to have Dana Brown for you on the show today,

but apparently that's not going to be until tomorrow. Okay. Maybe Dennis, like, I've got to think of some things about his team, and I'm ready to. He's like, give me one more day. Hopefully they can win a game. We need a five-run game. At least.

I don't want to answer questions about double bucks. Yeah, we want to talk about buns and Jose Al-Tuvae's bass running. It's not been good. 713-212-5-79. If you want to jump in and we are with you to the top of the hour, 7-1-3-2-2-5-7-90. Let's talk to Richie. in League City at 1038.

Richard, good morning. Hey, guys, good morning. So strange. I mean, as I'm on hold, I realize I'm getting a little emotional because I'm calling in to talk about the Rockets. And, like, I thought the sadness had kind of lifted, but it's not that I'm sad.

I'm really grateful. First off, I'm grateful to you, Matt, for the call. I probably get more Rockets games on the radio than any other way. and I just really enjoyed you this season. Well, thank you. And I love it on the library line, the game six, kind of Matt's greatest hits from... That's nice you to say that. Thank you very much.

That was really great, yeah. My wish list for this team in the off-season, a warning and then just my wish list. My warning is that they don't try to bring in someone like KD. And the reason being is I think Udoca, Coach Udoca, he's built a culture that I don't think a really old superstar veteran is going to fit in with easily.

They're going to have to be someone who's just absolutely the picture of professionalism like a Stephen Adams and where there's not going to be a lick of entitlement in them. And I think that automatically disqualifies, Katie. I don't know him personally, and he seems to be on his best behavior the last couple years, but my impression is he just would not, it would not be a good fit. So that said, my Christmas wish list is that we bring in someone like a Devin Booker, we package of Jalen Green and draft picks for a Devin Booker,

and if somehow we can pry him away from Phoenix, that's it. And then otherwise, I'd want to see because I don't know how far this team. I think this team could have really gone far if you had just replaced Galen with a consent proven player in the position who doesn't, who plays his best games when the stakes are best. And I think he kind of fits that profile. Otherwise, I just can't wait to see how this team continues to mature and grow. And that's it. And I don't know what I'm going to do between now and next season because this Astros team is just really not got me inspired.

And then after your thing this morning with Kyle Tucker and Bregman, I'm a special. Yeah, I can't do that. Yeah, Richard, thank you very much for the phone call, my friend. I'm not doing that anymore. I'm not doing that to our audience. Ross, if you want to go check it. Everybody wants to check out those numbers. The internet works for everybody, usually.

I'm not doing it. I can't do it to our audience. I can't do it the great people of Houston, Texas. Because it makes me sad. Things will turn. Things will get better, Matt. To the Rockets, and we did carry most of the press conference yesterday, but with E.M.A. Doca and Raffelstone, the general manager.

By the way, to the caller, and thank you again, Richard, for the nice words. It's going to take more than draft picks and Jalen Green. Yes. For Devin Booker. I mean, again, Phoenix Suns, at least the last time they publicly said anything. And certainly behind the scenes with some things said that Devin Booker is a cornerstone piece of their franchise that they have no interest in trying to train them. Yeah, it's funny because Rocket's Twitter is all like, uh, Reed Shepherd, Kim, Whitmore, and two firsts for Devin Booker. Who says no?

Jack Landell's contract, you there, don't forget that one. Who says no? The Phoenix Suns hang up on you thinking they got prank called. They get Jack's Oldrick on the phone. If you were to go get If you were to go get Devin Booker And again, I'm terrible on the draft

You know, what would it take? I would think, and help me out, Ross if it's it Two draft picks Rudy Gobert went for four first rounders. Let's start there. Donovan Mitchell was three first rounders. Okay, so let's go there. Three first rounders, Jabari, Tari,

Jalen. You know who they're going to call for. and they're not going to get that. They're not going to get that return. I'm going to say, new phone, who this? They're going to ask for N-uh, don't even say his name. Amen Thompson.

Nah, you said his name. By the way, I came up with a, I mean, I kind of organically came up with a nickname for him. I haven't floated it out to anybody publicly yet. There's just something I thought of. When we come back, my nickname idea for a man Thompson. Is it going to be good? I like it.

But I'm going to throw it to you. I don't think so. we'll find out next Matt Ross with you for a few more minutes and then we will transition into Astros coverage series finale as the Astros try to avoid the sweep in Milwaukee. Really fast

we'll go back on the phones Tyrese Halliburton I mean his dad wanted to be at that game so bad last night oh and he wasn't there and it didn't matter because Halliburton with a game winning three Indiana up two nothing on the Cleveland Cavaliers. They were missing was it Mowbly Hunter and Garland

I think I'll miss the game but they were winning for most of it. Donovan Mitchell was great, and then they came back, and it came out and choked that game, and now, I think they're two to one dogs in that series. I don't know how long Mobley and the others are supposed to be out, though. 60 plus win basketball team, if they get bouncing in the semifinals,

that is going to I mean, Cleveland's been crushed a lot in sports. I mean, let's not. Three rotational players hurt, I think, is a good enough excuse. It is. It is. And then last night, Dream on Green. Oh, my God.

Steph Curry got hurt. Steph Curry got hurt, and they won my double digits. I hate you, Warriors. I hate you. Listen to me. I hate you, Golden State. I hate you Warriors. I hate you, Draymond Green.

I hate you, Steph Curry. I hate, I really hate you, Buddy Heald. I hate Quentin Post. I hate Moses Moody. I hate Pat Spencer. I hate, come on. Hell, I can run them off, Ross. I called seven games with him.

I hate them. Yeah, the warrior, I mean, I'm sorry, the wolves are on. some kind of historic three-point shooting spell. They were five of 29 last night, and they're on like some worst, I think it's like a worst two-game stretch in playoff history shooting threes or something like that.

Yeah, they missed their first 17 last night. Meanwhile, Draymond Green is knocking back jumpers. They won by double digits and Steph didn't even play in the second half. God, I hate you, warriors. Crazy. Hate you. Hit you. Yeah, there's seven for their last 56

from three. Renfro on 790 at 1053. Hi, Renfro. Hey, guys. How y'all doing? Can I say this, Matt? And I think, Matt, you're basketball guys.

You would kind of see what I'm going with this. Michael Jordan took a while before he learned how to win and learn how to win and knowing when to take over a game, be dominant and everything. Let's get everybody involved in the game. Jalen is a good talent. He gets downfield, you know, gets down here real good, you know, and, you know, better than average jumper.

I think with Jaylon Hurst, just like I've seen, other stars had to do, they had to get, you have to learn how to win him. If we break this team up now with him at his, you know, getting to the point where he has a hell of a coach that, and I'm quite sure working with him, he just has to learn how, and really realize how he has to just learn when to take over the game and when to get people involved in the game. And I think that's his only flaw that he really has. He just haven't learned how to win game. He has to learn that ain't no way in the world you can win scoring eight points if you are not really, really active, you know, with the team.

And knowing that you are the, you know, you're the first option. So I think, you know, this is this, what, fourth year, maybe. I think Michael Jordan took almost. He was an all-star his first season and rookie of the year. I don't want to put Michael Jordan in January in the same conversation. You shouldn't. I'm not going to do that, right? It's not fair to.

No, nothing to say, no, but in the same style of you have to still learn how to we. Michael Jordan was an all-star all-star all four of his first seasons in the NBA. Jalen Green's had four seasons. He's got zero. But when did Michael Jordan win his first player? I mean, championship game. When he was in 1991. Yeah, that's over the lake. How many years was he in the lead before he won his first championship?

Probably six or seven, but he had like four scoring championships by then. He wasn't shooting 42% from the field in his fourth year. I mean, come on, man. I mean, he's running fraud. No, let's no, please. We've got a roll bank. Yeah, you got, you got a new cops. Michael Jordan.

Stay with me on this. Michael Jordan! You got to do comps on current players. Look, please. Yeah, look. I just had a caller go off for one minute. Well, yeah. Well, we're going to do that too.

It's funny that that was brought up because I actually been working on a little pet project, Matt. Comparing Jalen Green's first four years to other contemporaries. The Devin Bookers, Jalen Browns, Anthony Edwards, Jason Tatum, Trey Young, Che Gill, Deerrin Fox. Yeah. And I'm going to be putting up, I'm actually going to be putting something up on the Matt Thomas show with Ross blog.

Okay. And probably the next couple of days. Am I going to like it or not like that? I'm just going to tell you, it's not looking good. Okay. Listen, we're going to go into Astros coverage next. Oh, you didn't ask me the nickname.

I got to Ross. Oh, please. Go ahead. For a men Thompson. Yes. I was watching Steph Curry get guarded by him and open for three and he didn't want to put a shot up and I was like man he is shook

he is scared. A men Thompson is the boogeyman do a poll question in it. No yeah you tell me sounds like you don't like it that's okay he's like the boogeyman here's the thing I don't there's got to be some other athletes have been named the boogey man yes? I looked it up it was like some guy for the

played for the Patriots in the 80s or something oh then you're well within your right to call him the boogeyman and he's me and he's like that And a wrestler. Let's see. There's a hockey player. Derek Bougard. Who I covered when he was the Minnesota Wilde.

Unfortunately, he's passed away. But he was a goon. And then it was the Patriots. It was a Patriots.