The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Astros Lose 6-4 Sitting 43-32 & #3 In The American League, Pacers Force Game 7 In the NBA Finals Winning 108-91

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

Astros Lose 6-4 Sitting 43-32 & #3 In The American League, Pacers Force Game 7 In the NBA Finals Winning 108-91...

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:03 10-01 in H-town. Good morning and welcome to a Friday edition of the Matt Thomas show at Ross. This is Sports Talk 790. Come on, Cheeks. You deserve better than that from Sports RV. You said that he was always angry and bit you every chance he got.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Yeah. Doesn't mean I don't love him. Can I say this one of the hardest Friday clips of fit? Because there were so many funny ones this week, man. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Good morning, everybody. Hey, Matt.
Starting point is 00:00:37 How are you? I'm having a great Friday. 105, Sports Talk 790. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Hope everybody's in a good mood today. It is like it is each of the last, what, the show's been on almost 16 years. Did you start that from week one? Pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Anything goes Friday? Yeah. Okay. And it's a good radio classic bit. And I didn't steal it from anybody. Oh, yeah, but it feels like it's like, we do you call it Open Line Friday. It was what Rush Limbaugh. open line Friday. Open on the EIB network.
Starting point is 00:01:05 R. L. Rushbow here. In front of the golden microphone. You know, Bo Snurley. Stop scratch from me in that back area there. But yeah, anything goes Friday is on the radio program today, and you're saying, well, what does anything go Friday? And Ross, Bill, or else here to tell you all about it? I am here to tell you, Matt. It's 713-212-5-790. The longest leash in the biz gets even longer.
Starting point is 00:01:29 You've heard the day drunks on this show and the morning drunks as well. and quite frankly, maybe things are slower in the 10 and 11 o'clock hour these days. We're trying to build that audience. So the phone lines are open. You can talk about anything you want to get to. 713-212-5-790. If you want to talk about the Astros
Starting point is 00:01:45 getting walked off twice in one series, after doing it to the twins twice in one series, we can get to that. If you want to talk about the latest and greatest on Kevin Durant, you want to talk about how about Jonathan Allen's got to be feeling good, Pacers, forcing game seven in the end. final. Oh, I was still happy last night. Pacers in seven. How are we feeling?
Starting point is 00:02:08 Seriously, if you're Oklahoma City, I mean, I know you're getting a seventh game at home and there's nothing better in quote-unquote sports than a home game seven of anything. But my goodness, you laid an egg last night. This is exactly what ABC is probably finally happy about this series. You should get at least some ratings for a game seven, I would hope. Yeah, that's interesting. That, you know, Sunday night, this thing started. I believe the game one of the NBA finals was in early May.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And they're finally wrapping this thing up after seven games. Yeah. And then they go to hit winter break, I think, and then they finish it up. So you know what? I got to ask this to Vanessa, who's been working the Hoops Streams broadcasts for ESPN YouTube channel. She worked the NBA finals or the Western Conference Finals did this. And then she did the NBA Finals. I don't know if she's been home in like four weeks.
Starting point is 00:02:58 That's, yeah. It gets tough. Now, I do like to travel. I like to stay in five stars. And I'm assuming that she's on the ESPN dime. She's not staying in the Rorita ends. You know what I'm saying? I get tired doing all the playoff games and I'm here.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I don't go anywhere. So if you, and think about these have these long days off in between. Vanessa and Mike Green and Richard Jefferson and Dorisberg and anybody that's covered it, if you've been in the Western Conference covering the Western Finals in the NBA finals. You have been in three cities in a month. Oklahoma City, Minneapolis, and Indianapolis. I mean, all of them have their positive attributes. Yeah. But there's no L.A., there's no New York, there's no Boston, there's no Chicago,
Starting point is 00:03:45 there's no Miami. There's not even Phoenix, Orlando. It's the heartland of America. And the downtown vibes, the city vibes, are okay. But you can only go to that same steak restaurant, you know, in a certain amount of time. Well, you can find, I guess you can try to find, well, you probably have limited options, not limited options, but not as many options in Oklahoma City. Like, for instance, Oklahoma City, we would go to, I've been, I've been going the last 10 years, nine years. And the late Toby Keith has a barbecue restaurant.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And we've been going there, and the food's been okay. Nothing spectacular. We had a really bad time the last time. So we've decided as a collective group, we're done with Toby Keith's barbecue place. I love this bar bar bar. Yeah. Food was mid, service was average, and, you know, there's no chance seeing Toby at this point. He's marching the good name of Toby Keith.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Well, I mean, I'm sure he's doing just fine. No, he's dead. I mean, you know, his family's doing just fine. I mean, they're probably sad he's gone, but you get my drift on this. Okay. But, you know, you go to Chicago, New York, and for that matter, even Houston. Dallas, there are 50 downtown restaurants. That's true. You've got great barbecue in Houston and Dallas.
Starting point is 00:05:01 You have great world cuisines here in Houston. Like if you want really good Thai food, like authentic, is there a place to go in Oklahoma City? No, I mean, is there a great Mexican restaurant in Mexico? In Indianapolis? Probably not. Oh. You go to Taco Bell. I mean, we're really lucky. We are an incredible food city.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Matter of fact, I was telling my wife yesterday, I said, we've got to go get some cream barbecue. We'll take Ross with us because. Okay. I'll show you the ropes. She's like, have you had pork belly before? I said, it's ironically enough, we did it when we went to have cream barbecue, and it was spectacular. You have had pork belly before, Matt? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Bacon. Yeah, but I mean, like, in the most authentic form possible. Now, I was gassy for three days after, but that's a difference. I was like, you ate a lot of kimchi. Oh, God. It's fermented cabbage. That's a one, two punch right there. This is getting uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's good. Probiotics, Matt. It was for gut health. You mean a cleanser. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So what are they doing out of the road?
Starting point is 00:05:55 They form like a book club or something? Should we call her today? If you want. I mean, she could be trying. And not only that is the travel is. I mean, there's no non-stop between Oklahoma City, Indianapolis. She has to change planes somewhere. I mean, it's probably in a sense a day just to get traveling.
Starting point is 00:06:10 What do we have on the show today? Well, we have at 1130, I'm sorry's. Okay. And at 12 o'clock, we have the news. We've got to wake the strippers up. We have, oh, we have the return of the fantasy five today. that's right. Ooh, I got to write a list. So, Jonathan, this is
Starting point is 00:06:26 going to be an audio fantasy five. So do you think we need to bring in Cole Thompson to help a little bit? This is a lot of work. Are you sure? Yeah. Okay. It's a fantasy. I believe in him. It's a fantasy five of songs of summer. Yes. So it has to have like summer or heat in the title?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Well, I will say this, when we do our draft, and we'll draft before we go on the air with these things. Or mention the summer. We'll have to get, you know, we'll have to get like Mark Sherman to come in here and say, That's not a summer song. Okay. Don't you think?
Starting point is 00:06:55 That's true. I think. Like, I'll just say a random song. Sitting on the dock of the bay by Otis Redding. Is that a summer song? Um, I would say yes it is. I don't know. Like closing time would not be a summer song.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Okay. We are family. Is that a closing? Is that a summer song? It feels summery. Wow. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So we're just, it's a little too arbitrary. Maybe we should go with heat or summer or something. in the lyrics it's about heat or summer. Okay, that's fine. Heat or summer. So you can present evidence in the lyrics if you have to if it's not in the title. Okay, so you want heater or summer in the title. Is that what you're telling the audience?
Starting point is 00:07:35 I think so. Okay. Because there's some songs. Like hot weather. There's some songs that we'll be talking about romance that will be by heat. Yeah, not like hot blooded by foreigner. That's about trying to have sex with an underage girl. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:07:45 That doesn't really quick on the show. Well, he wrote it. I didn't. That's true. All right. 10, 12 is the time. It is the Matt Tomaselwood Ross. And then we'll have hell yeah or not today is we're going to do alive or dead.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Nothing really pressing in terms of main things. Kevin Durantz, is he a rocket or is he a spur? Is he a heat? Is he a timber wolf at this point? We still don't know on that. And we'll never know what else going on. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 00:08:13 The Astros split in Oakland. No, they don't. Do they split in Sacramento? Yes, they do. Details on that next, 790. There's a 2-1. Kurtz hits it high in the air, pretty deep to center. This is going to win the game.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Myers is back, and it's gone. A walk-off two-run, home run for Nick Kurtz. His second walk-off two-run home run of this series, and the A's wined in the bottom of the 10th, 6 to 4. Home run number 9 on the year for Kurtz, and his fourth home run in the last five games. I believe Nick Kurtz has hit all of his home runs this year against the Astros. Certainly feels like it after watching last night's game.
Starting point is 00:08:58 My goodness. And by the way, if you took the under, like I told you to take yesterday, you were a winner. Yes, you were. By half run. Pretty good number they made. I had the over. If Marisi Dubon had his Wheaties in the morning and that shot he hit would have went over the fence instead of at the very top of it, I don't want, but I didn't. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I am a terrible sports better with the exception. of over unders in baseball, especially in first five. Yeah, especially with zero research. Yeah, it's just pulled on
Starting point is 00:09:28 on my ass is what it is basically. And it works. It does. Because you and I yesterday said, we're going to put a huge bet on it, which we're really not going to bet. No.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And I said take the under 10 and a half. I also said take the thunder and the points. Yeah. Whoops. I'm doing it again, though. We're doubling down on Sunday. Thunder minus seven and a half.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And we've got to get to more of that because I do want to get your thoughts if Indiana was to win the series. But let's get first to the Astros. So Josh Hader proved to be human. Remember that song, I'm only human, born to make mistakes? No. Oh, we're going to play that for you then at some point today. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Because that's really what it was. So, yeah, Vanessa's going to join us in a few minutes. We'll figure out of time. Okay. Because I'm very curious. Forget about the game. You just want to ask her where she's been living. But look, I've been on the, I've been on the road. on a five-game road trip like 10-11 days.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I've also, when I worked the Olympics, I was gone for a month. But at least you had a place to settle in and get comfortable. I mean, she's bouncing around from city to city to city to city to city. That could probably get a little bit tiresome, wouldn't you not think? I would imagine so. We'll get some insights from her coming up, whenever. Yeah, whenever. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So Josh Hader suffers his first loss of the year. It wasn't a blown save because it was a tie game, but it was a loss. His first loss of the year. And he's human. Yes. And the Astros split the series. Again, they lost a half game to the Mariners because they weren't playing yesterday. So the Astros have a five game lead in the division.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Still sitting pretty. Yeah. Even though, you know, you play the crappy A's, you'd like to win the series. So you'd like to not get walked off the course. So now the four games are done in Sacramento, it's our first taste of that. Major League Baseball should be embarrassed. They should. They don't draw 9,000.
Starting point is 00:11:19 They don't even draw 9,000 a game. It's ridiculous. It's probably only going to get worse. I mean, Sacramento Ross is got to be population-wise, probably Metro, 2 million people. I mean, it's not tiny. They fill up... 8670 yesterday. They fill up the Kings games.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They light the bean. Yeah, I mean, it's... How do the river bandits do or whatever they got? My guess is... Or the mountain lions. It's so weird. Yesterday, or day before, Robert Ford took a photo of a schedule, like, on a... a wall that had the A's games on and the River Cat.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So if you wanted to watch baseball, you're basically got a chance to watch 150, 160 games in one stadium in one year. If you have no life. I would think, yeah. I mean, I can't imagine it'd be like, hey, let's go to the River Cats game on Monday and the A's on Tuesday. And you have thousands and thousands of dollars to blow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And you want to see some crappy baseball. In hot West Sacramento, California. Yes. Sounds like a great summer. Yeah. So, but yeah. So missed opportunities for sure. Sure, close calls, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:22 But, you know, look, I'm not going to wig out of it. I did want to check Astros' Twitter. I did go to the tweet that's simply the Astros put out. And I don't know if we, is it, we haven't done AI and a, A.O, excuse me, AO in a long period of time. Astros overreactions? Well, because they've been winning. Yeah. So, funny how that works.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So without in, I don't even think, has Jonathan have been on the, on the watch of us doing the show with A.O. at this point? I don't recall. I don't think so. Maybe once. So we may have to get him tuned and ready for that. Maybe if they're the the Mets series, they split that series and then they did. And they got swept for the Giants. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They won two out of three against the
Starting point is 00:13:04 Mets. Oh, that's right. They won the series and then they got swept. Yeah. Never mind. I don't know what I was thinking it was a four games. All right. So let's just get a rando sampling of what's going on in the old Astros Twitterverse. Okay. And I'm going to separate those that are not Astros. fans because there's a lot of non-astro fans jumping in on this. Rational one from Dimitri Manzano says
Starting point is 00:13:24 Blown opportunities and Extra Innings for Astros and bases loaded earlier with only getting one run. Forget this game and move out in the next series. That sounds rational, right? By the way, is this the first Astro extra inning loss of the year? Yes, there were 4-0. Okay. These things tend to even out. I am, me, HTX says, well, that sucked.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Okay, that's fine. Dan Phillips says boo. At the UNT6, as I said it for this game. This one is what is. Let's see. Here's one. This will want to run up your alley, Rossi. J. Pro 689.
Starting point is 00:14:00 What's so hard about bunting? Had a chance in the ninth and no outs and two on and didn't bother in the 10th. Dumb-Dum. Tony Totab says LAMO. How a T.F. Do you lose the team with known home? That's a good point. At Gulf Coast Clown says,
Starting point is 00:14:18 Hater washed. That's a joke, of course. Here's one. This has got to be a bit. No, I'll even skip that one. I'm going to do it. Brett Fine says haters a bum.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Let's see here. Here's one from CR with a bunch of numbers. Don't ever throw a single pitch to Kurtz again for the rest of his career. Steven says Nick Kurtz owns the Astros. Yes, he does. Tyler says, stayed up just to get walked up by Nick
Starting point is 00:14:48 Kurtz, what a day. Joe Boo says Kurtz own you. Emily, who looks fairly attractive, says, I stand up for you and you do this to me. And lastly, Dana says, see tomorrow. Good game. So it's not completely nuts so over there. Now, if the Astros dropped two or three
Starting point is 00:15:08 of the Angels this weekend, we may have to revisit AOs on Monday. Don't want to do it, but may have to do it. So, yeah, but the first extra winning loss, first bad performance, that's lefty, lefty, too. I mean, you would have thought that Hater would have had fun with Kurtz, but God, Kurtz has had a fantastic series, and it's Robert Ford's had four home runs in the last week or so?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yes. So. And crushing the Astros. I mean, you stay up for these late night West Coast games just to watch them get walked off. It's painful. Yeah, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Painful, but yeah, it's still a five-game lead. And I'll have the on-deck show for you tonight. You will? And I will be doing... What time? 7.30. Woo!
Starting point is 00:15:50 And that means I'm doing the 10th inning show tonight. Is that five nightcaps for Cole Thompson? Tip of the cap to him. It's not an easy show to do. No, it's not, no. But I mean, but it's a good precursor for what we're going to do at 7.30. Yes. So I'll have the 7.30 on deck, and then I'll have the 10th inning call on a Friday night after an angel.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You may call you, Matt. No, I don't want you to call me. I might be licked up. No, that I definitely don't want you to call. Oh, you definitely should. No, no. We need a safe harbor by then. See, 830-C.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It goes to be 11 o'clock, 11-30-ish. Yeah, they call it Safe Harbor folks, the FCC. You can curse after a certain time. Yeah, but you can't go on and just drop F bombs. No, you can't do that. You can basically, yeah, you keep it casual, I guess. But I mean, if you were to curse, we would delete it. We just because we're safe and we're family-oriented programming here.
Starting point is 00:16:33 That's rude. Why are you trying to censor me? All right. 1026 on Sports Talk 790. It isn't anything goes far. You were going to say something? No. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:41 713-212-750. We'll check in with Vanessa at about 1220 today. Okay. So we'll find out what's going on with her travel life. because that's just the inside stuff you won't get from other shows. That's, yes. I mean, Tyree's Halliburton, we know what he did. We know what the Thunder didn't do last night.
Starting point is 00:17:00 We didn't know, we certainly didn't know. That Halliburton to Seacom breakaway dunk all over Jay Williams' face, that might have been the play of the season. Are we calling him Jay Williams now? What did I say? I thought I said, Jailum. Jaylen. Oh, there you go, Jaylam.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Okay. Jeline. All right. All right. A Kevin Durant update. on the Matt Thomas show? I mean, we do have, we don't really have one. We're just going to go over the same things that everybody is saying.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Is there substance to the subject? No, there's not. There's not. But I mean, are you telling me, are you, are you going to the 4U tab for all this? Because it's crazy out there. I'm not really. I try to stay off there as much as possible. All right. Let me tell you about Shellopoli. Can I do that for you real quick? Absolutely. How do I play, Matt? All right. So to answer the question that I put on the pre-show tweet earlier is Kevin Durant still a son. The answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And if you go to the 4U tab, you see a variety of things out there, and it could be reckless speculation. It could be one friend has a source that says this, an agent says this, it could be also a massive smokescreen. It could be a, hey, I'm going to give you some erroneous information to get you off the scent, whatever the case may be. The latest thing I am seeing, and this is one minute ago, this is from a website, the NBA Central, which is the legit one.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Not the Centell, but the Central. It's an aggregator. Okay. And it says This is from Brett Siegel NBA And he is a reporter for clutch points. Got 22,000 followers. He's verified,
Starting point is 00:18:35 which doesn't mean a hell of beans right now. Yeah. It means you're dropping 10 bucks a month. God, that feels crazy. Teams around the league believe the Miami Heat are close to the finish line acquiring Kevin Durant
Starting point is 00:18:47 and may need to add Kalia Ware to the package to finalize the deal. according to Brett Siegel. Okay. He says, quote, although the two sides are not right at the finish line yet in trade talks, one player can get them there. That would be clear where.
Starting point is 00:19:02 A rookie standout in Miami's front court is a giant with a 7-foot-4 wingspan and two-way potential. If the heat include wearing a revamp package to what they have already offered, talks of the Suns would reach a whole new level as he is the player, Phoenix Swan's, and discussions with Miami. As I've said, 500 times, and I'll say it 500 more times, And again, we're just bringing up this just because MBA Central does it. I mean, they've got a fair number of people that follow them. And they don't typically put out stuff just to put it out.
Starting point is 00:19:31 They've got over it. They almost have 2 million followers. So people, so what? Okay. I'm not saying they don't put stuff just to put stuff out. Well, I'm saying they don't go to a guy that's got 85 Twitter followers and go, this guy is their NBA reporter. I mean, there's a lot of fake media in Houston.
Starting point is 00:19:46 We've talked about that in Anauzian. There's a lot of fake media in every city. Then they're not putting a lot of fake media out from other cities. This guy, Brett Siegel, obviously, is an employee of some clutch points. Clutch points is not really a... I mean, it's just like a website. Oh, okay. Well, then...
Starting point is 00:20:00 I mean, like I said, yeah. Take it with a hill of beans. Or a grain of salt. All right. Is there any more cliches that we can knock out here in the next three hours? Nobody takes it with the hill of beans, I don't think. Takes it with a hill of bean. I've never heard that.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I was... I just wanted to say that. You've used... What's a hill of beans? I don't know. It's worth a hill of beans? Yeah, that's what I was saying. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Maybe it's not worth a hill of beans. Okay. You're any hill of beans there, Jonathan? I don't even get that analogy right now. Is it worth the beans with a good thing? I want you close your eyes for a second. All right. You got them closed?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Got them close. Think about a hill of beans. What's their value? Nothing. There you go. That's not true, though. What? I mean, beans is a good source of protein, fiber, sustenance?
Starting point is 00:20:49 But the retail value is minimal. The retail value, but a hill of them is pretty valuable. can eat that for months. Yeah, but I mean, a hill of baked beans cost you $7 and $8. Big beans? Bate beans? How about a la charra, Matt? I like chariotta beans.
Starting point is 00:21:03 You do? Uh-huh. Lima, not so much. We were done a fantasy five on favorite beans? Oh, that's the, that would supplant soup as the worst one ever. Soup was amazing, by the way. It was so bad. It was so good. Soup.
Starting point is 00:21:14 This guy's fried. I'll take up bean and bacon. Terrible. Clim chowder for the wind, baby. All right. As a chowder, it's not a soup. Just kidding. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So, like I said, 500 times, I'm going to go with whatever Shams tells me. If Shams has something on the scent, I believe him, I believe Winhorst. Shams is in Tier 1 by himself. Then you go, what, Winhorst? Winhorst. Probably. Where you put Mark Stein. Tier 3.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He's in Tier 2 to me. If he put something, it's not going to not be true. Sam Mammack? I would say the same thing with Chris Hames. I put Chris Hames, Sam, Amy, take tier three. Okay. But I mean, it's also, it's not like they're going to get stuff wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:57 No, but it's just not going to get to it as fast as other guys are. Every NBA team has a direct pipeline to Shams, just like they have a direct pipeline to Woe. And a lot of many people are saying, well, why would they do this? Because in today's journalism, there is a little you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Yes. He's putting all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Now, and it's not saying that's not true, But all this stuff he's putting out about all these teams and these different trade packages and who's getting what it's done and who's close to the finish line, that's the drum up the market. That benefits the son. I think he's getting that from the sons. They're telling him, hey, hey, put this out here. Then these other teams know and get confirmed that the market is robust. He has a great reach on his Twitter. He has a huge reach on the networking where she works for.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And if you give him stuff and he appreciates that, when a job opening up opens up somewhere, He may do you a solid and throw your name into a mix for a job that you may want, whether your name is really being considered. I'll give you a perfect example in my mind. He was the one that broke the Desmond Bain trade. And if you recall, everyone was like, Desmond Bain for four first round picks. This is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:23:09 How did this trade get made? And literally, like, his next tweet or one of his next couple tweets was like, Desmond Bain is a great two-way player who, he's average 19 points. he's like putting up all these stats and talking about how great Desmond Bain is. That's on behalf of the agent. I'm sure the agent said, hey, I gave you this news. It's getting a little backlash.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Why don't you talk about how great Desmond Bain is? And talk about what great value Orlando is getting this part of the trade. Exactly. So, and while I believe Shams is a thorough journalist, he's only dealing with people he doesn't have to get second and third sources from. He's dealing with the agents and the general managers and perhaps even the coaches. In return, again, he's going to put favorable things out. And that happens.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And Ross, it may be a part of the new media, but it's probably, it probably happened in 1958, too, you know, with various news people and stuff like that. Not to the extent now, because in those days, the media need, the leagues needed the media. They needed to be in the press. They needed to be in the newspaper, they need a radio, because they needed to generate revenue. Correct. The NBA's made right now. They don't need 15 beat reporters to be breaking news on them.
Starting point is 00:24:16 They don't need the coverage as much through this. them, those avenues, as they do with the TV networks and the talking head stuff and the websites and all that type of stuff. I found the tweet. Yeah. Shams Sharaniah. Bain is one of three NBA players with 800 made three-pointers, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Major boost for the magic. An agent told him to say that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Correct. And if Shams denied that, he would be lying to you. But again, if we're in Shams spot, I'm not trying to... No, hey. I do this, hey. I mean, if you are the pipeline to every significant NBA deal, that's a big deal for you. Right. I'm not...
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah, I'm not trying to... to, I don't know, besmirch the good name of Shant. I'm saying, that's how the game is played. I don't even know Shams, but I've heard nothing but really good things about him. Seems great. But again, in that position, and this is the same thing with Adam Shepter, the NFL. You're going to see when Adam Schaefter finds out a deal. There's going to be a follow-up tweet or a commentary about, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:07 let's say Aaron Rogers agent told Shepter that he's going to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers. The follow-up subsequent tweet would be Aaron Rogers has worked out hard. Aaron Rogers feels like it's a great, really. I mean, there'll be, there'll be, some other parts of us compared to just reporting that Aaron Rogers now Pittsburgh Steelers. And it works too because I even read that tweet from Shams. I'm like, hey, you know
Starting point is 00:25:26 what, Desmond A and is pretty good. It worked on me. Mission accomplished. Yeah, exactly right. That's exactly right. It's like, dang, Desmond Bayans knocking down threes. All right. And it could have been the magic or the agent or both that told them to put that out there. Right, right. All right. 713-212-719. And anything goes Friday here on the radio
Starting point is 00:25:43 program. A's again, splitting the series with the Astros. Not the end of the world. A's been actually playing with No, no, you want to win the series. Don't get walked off twice. They've won six of eight of the A's. I know. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Seven of eight would be better. That's true. No, six of, uh, five of eight would have been better. I'm talking about the A's of one. They swept Kansas City before they fly the others. No, no, no. Oh, you mean overall?
Starting point is 00:26:10 I thought you meant against the asteros. No, no, no, no. I'm just going to sit up. You don't know, I want you here. It's Friday. We're paying you to speak. I don't know why. how much for paying you but isn't that stupid by well you come up here and i talk about sports and
Starting point is 00:26:21 they give me money that's the dumbest thing i ever heard yeah because most of your takes aren't worth a dime please don't hear this please don't hear this bosses hey let me tell you some i heart you know hey what come on man you can't leave i'm already on thin ice as it is no you're not on thin ice you're on solid ground you're on solid ground you're not going anywhere uh 713 712 212 5 790 710 We've got the Astros, we've got the NBA, we've got Kevin Durant. Oh, but speaking of that, we have a game seven because last night, Oklahoma City didn't show up. Tyree's Halliburton was running at about 40% would be fair to say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:02 He was gimpin. They said, James put out there before the game started that a normal time frame for the thigh, is it what are they calling a contusion or a calf? Calf. That's right. Caff was about three to four weeks. He's like, it's game six of the NBA finals. be out there. It's almost
Starting point is 00:27:19 Walt Frazier like when he was with the Knicks back in the 70s. Where he'd just labor to get out there. It does worry me because I remember in a finals Kevin Durant or was it in the Rocket series. Kevin Durant was playing through a calf injury and he snapped as Achilles.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So I'm worried for Hallibur. I want him to make it. But I also think he's going to be real sore come Sunday and the thunder are going to cover the 7 and a half doubling down. Are you? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Are you going to the border to do this or what? I might. We need sports gambling in this state so bad. I'm going to go with me? We stop on the viter merrimine on the way back? They know us there. I always use M's and you always use Bs when we rhyme. The Barrymeam?
Starting point is 00:28:07 The Barry Bean? It's not bad. I got fish there. It wasn't terrible. I couldn't believe you ordered fish at Mary Mean. You ordered a corn dog. It was 99 cents. That's different.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Fish is like, that's a $10 risk. Your brother paid, it was nice. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Number one. Look, if I lose out of the corn dog, Mary Mean, is I only drop 99 cents. It's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Your poor brother paid $10 for two pieces of fish for me. Mine was low risk. Berry Bean at, low risk, high reward. And it wasn't good. Don't do it. Yeah. All right. What else we got going on?
Starting point is 00:28:46 There is a video. of last night's game with involving the Dodgers that I did tweet off of awful announcing that's going to make you very mad. Great. There was a chance for an immaculate inning yesterday and we'll discuss. Oh my God. Did you see what was yesterday happening in the batters box or the, what would you even call it, at the strike zone?
Starting point is 00:29:09 You mean inconsistencies throughout? Egregious. We'll talk about it. 713-212-5-7-90. Whatever is on your mind, It is fair game for an Anything that Goes Friday here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. 713212-5-790. It's anything goes Friday.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Matt Thomas, Ross Villarreal with you here. Jonathan Allen is our producer. Lake the strippers up coming up at 12 o'clock. We have, I'm sorry, it's at 1130. What are you going to apologize for? I think I've listened to a lot of the show on the IHeart Radio app on the podcast. You got a lot of apologizing to do just for just general comments this week. You have been...
Starting point is 00:29:47 Me? Yeah, you've been a little surly. You're talking to me or Jonathan? Jonathan, don't you agree? That's a Ross been kind of inappropriate. First of all, what did I do? You took a lot of jabs at cheeks. I didn't take any jabs at cheeks.
Starting point is 00:29:57 You took a lot of jabs at me. Trevor. Oh, yeah. You're getting to Trevor's girls' DMs. I'm not in her DMs. I've never DM'd her once. Liking all of her photos? I didn't like any of her photos.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So I went and looked through my likes. So it was a case of mistake on identification. No, it must have been a story or something. I don't know. My finger must have slipped. 1049. Anything goes. 713, 212, 5, 790.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I'm sorry, he's coming up at 1130. Our friend Vanessa is going to join us at 1230. I don't know if she just landed. I don't know if she's landed in Oklahoma City or she's changing planes or whatever's going on. But we'll talk with her and just get to the travel stuff because that's what people want to know. The games itself we've watched. The non-competitive bit has been too much. But, you know, but yeah, let's go and talk to Frank on the north side on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 00:30:54 1050. Frank, thank you for holding and good morning to you. Hey, how's it going, Matt? Hey, I got a couple, two questions, Matt. Is Jalen Green the leading score on the Rockets team? Yes, he was for the 20. 21 points per game. Yeah. What about last year?
Starting point is 00:31:13 The year before, I think yes. Okay. Frank, can I ask you a question? Yeah. What do you do for a living, may I ask? Are you retired or do you work today? No, I'm retired. Do you own a computer?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Do you own a computer? Yep. Do you know how to use it? Come on, Matt. I believe he's trying to make a point, Matt. What's the question? I think. Well, I mean, you're...
Starting point is 00:31:38 I know. No, what I'm reading and I'm asking you this is the question I got is, what team has traded the number one score and won an NBA championship? Hmm, now you're really putting this on the spot. number one score okay last year actually okay so last season
Starting point is 00:32:00 it was Jalen Green the year before it was Alperin Shungu okay where you headed where you had the turn signal line where you going I'm curious
Starting point is 00:32:11 what I'm sitting here in traffic here is it what's in you know I hate traffic what's what intersection you at I'm at
Starting point is 00:32:21 Westheimer and 16 610 sucks Frank I don't It do. Don't. And then the lights are flashing. Oh, hell no. Hell no. The lights are flashing? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Let me tell you some. Frank, I sincerely feel terrible for you because that at first of all, 610 sucks, Westheimer sucks, and having flashing lights at that intersection suck. You're right around the corner from us. Not too far, actually. What is the big deal about trading Jaylin Green? I think that we should just strengthen our bench. That's the problem. Well, here's the thing, Frank. The reality is... The bitch players we have that play guard a bunch of midgets.
Starting point is 00:33:07 You can't say midges in 2025. Okay, little people. That's better. Little people works. But anyway, that's Van Fleet, Shepard, Holiday, and who else is over there on the 60s? And Thompson can, but he's not short. Yeah, man Thompson not short. I see it under six feet.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Okay. You mean small people? Small people. Yeah. Small people. So if our bench is the problem, why do we need to trade one hour starters? People haven't been watching the playoff. Every superstar that was in the playoff that got knocked out,
Starting point is 00:33:53 didn't score a lot of Anthony Edwards didn't score a lot of points yeah he did that's why they lost well they lost they're not in the finals well did you watch the playoffs Frank
Starting point is 00:34:06 Jalen Green scored in double digits and four of the seven games Anthony Edwards has not scored single digits in a playoff game ever in his career and he's been to two Western finals my exact point and y'all want to trade it What?
Starting point is 00:34:23 The guy just 22 years old. How's that your exact point? Wait, wait, Frank, Frank, did you see, Frank? Why do we want to trade it? Frank, did you see what happened in Dallas this year by any chance? See, that's the problem. You're not listening to what I'm saying. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:42 We're listening to what I'm saying. We're listening to you, Frank. Frank, I want you to roll the window down. I want you to roll the window down in your car, and I want you to scream 610 sucks because all this terrible traffic. Yeah, 610 sucks. But anyway, I don't know who the worst, Matt. You are your backup.
Starting point is 00:35:01 He is. I want to say my backup. My backup's the worst. Who's your backup? You're the backup. Your backup is Dan Matthews when you're out. Yeah, you do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Your backup sucks. Yeah, I do. You know, you suck. Frank, you suck. You don't even listen. You don't even listen when I'm talking. Frank. I said Jalen Green can't even.
Starting point is 00:35:21 He scored single digits in four games. Frank, I value you. you, my friend. We are, we are friends of the end. Good God. Frank, you have the intelligence of cheeks to hamster. Oh, oh. He was hating on the Cougars all the way. Yeah, yeah. And then what happened? They choked.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, and then they choked. Get him, Frank. Get them, Frank. I'm all, I'm team Frank. What do you call Texas? What would, what did they do? Oh, that's 2019, NIT champion Texas Longhorns, put some respect on their name. What's up? Texas.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Champion? Champion in what? Softball, rowing, tennis, swimming and diving, track. You're talking about being sports. What's wrong? Women don't matter, Frank? That's just, that's just, that's not the conversation. That's not right.
Starting point is 00:36:09 See your back of sucks, man. I know. I know. I'm trying to, I'm trying to improve my bench. Hey, Frank, I'm trying to improve my bench just like you're trying to improve the Rockets bench. Exactly. He just hate him because. He got a little more hair than you.
Starting point is 00:36:26 That's exactly right. See, again, that makes no sense. You're saying I'm envious of baldness? He's not even a good-looking man like myself. Come on. Thank you. You have the intellect of an eight-year-olds, Frank. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Good God. Get off the road, Frank. You're going to hit somebody. Clearly you're lacking in intelligence and there are disconnected neurons in your brain. Frank, never be a stranger to the show. Love having you on. That was one of the dumbest people I'd ever heard.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Called you the backup. That's terrible. That's fine. It's whatever. I'm just happy people know I exist sometimes. You know what? No, I don't even know. It doesn't even care.
Starting point is 00:37:02 It doesn't matter. You're the co-host. I don't want to hear it. It doesn't matter. And Frank. You cannot use the word midgets anymore either. You just cannot. And first of all,
Starting point is 00:37:12 well, that doesn't matter. And they're not. Reed Shepard's on a midget. So you can't hear it trade Jalen Green, who I said had four single-digit playoff performances scoring in the playoffs. in seven games. Anthony Edwards in 42 games has zero and he said I'm making his point. You're stupid, Frank.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Frank? I mean, go Cougars. First of all, that's also a bit. You're also not stupid enough to, or smart enough to realize I'm just messing with Matt with the Cougars. Number one. All right, whatever, I'm done. Have a great day, Frank. Frank, be careful out there.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You know what, I'm going to apologize to Frank coming up in 30 minutes. I'm sorry, Frank. Frank, in 30 minutes, stand by because the backup's going apologize to you. But get off the road. 713. You're going to hurt somebody. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Special message for anybody out there. 11-0-2 on Sports Talk 790. Matt Ross and apparently Gordy decided he wanted to step in after his normal time is too valuable for him to be on time. So he's here at 11-0-2. Well, I mean, I gave some time away to Frank. He gives such great inside phone calls. I had to give way to. You see he called Ross the backup?
Starting point is 00:38:28 Ross found with us for 15 plus years. You ain't a backup. It's a little bit of an honor, right? No, I would say no. I am the co-host of this show for six years. And really, in the studio. But we put your name on it last year. But anyways, and apparently Frank called in, he's threatening violence against me if I call him.
Starting point is 00:38:46 No, Frank. You can not. He's a teddy bear. Okay. Well, Frank. I'll stop telling tigers they have stripes. I don't know. You're going to apologize in a half an hour?
Starting point is 00:38:53 I'll apologize. There you go. I'm angry right now. now, though. Because whatever. I'm moving on. I'm taking deep breaths. I'm going to count to 10 and you guys can talk. All right. Dan Matthews,
Starting point is 00:39:06 why I'm ever going to have Dan's name? I don't know I was, you guys were talking about Dan. I'm saying. Let me focus here. Oh, by the way, Best Elected Coast of Carolina in the College World Series, best of three. Why are you rooting for this? Let's go. What do you mean? You got so damn lucky with Eric's Arkansas crap in their pants.
Starting point is 00:39:22 We were going to beat them yesterday. You got a lucky by a choke job. Whatever. Terrible. You got a stupid defensive play at shortstop and then a horrific air in left field. Boom. Okay. Lucky.
Starting point is 00:39:36 We intimidate the opponent. Oh my God. We're the power of college baseball. LSU. There's a thing in the right field called the intimidator. Why aren't you in Omaha, by the way? Intimidator. Look, I was looking at prices.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It is not cheap. Well, mostly the flights are sold out on Southwest and United. But like, together. get there was going to be about a grand. Are you going to fly dark press ever again? Yeah, that's why I got my credit card through. Okay, so you guys are okay now after that long trip you had in Corpus last week?
Starting point is 00:40:04 Well, we got flight credits, my wife was showing me, but they all went to her account. I didn't get any on my account. She got like $800. It was funny, she got like $200 and then she got another $200. She woke up yesterday. They're like, they sent her another $100. Like, they just keep like adding stuff. We got, we're so sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:19 And we didn't ask for anything. Well, you guys fly together all the time. It's fine. I think they're just like, how many hours were they on the tarmac? You give them $200? Give them another $100 per hour. They just keep adding on credits. Well, I brought this up to the audience.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It was yesterday or day before. If you are a fan of LSU or friend of any of those really good college teams. Yeah. And even if you're not a diehard fan or you're a fan that doesn't have a tit, like Murray State. You didn't plan to go to Omaha. Right. But you love Murray State baseball. To fly there is expensive.
Starting point is 00:40:52 to stay there, even if you drove. Let's say you just got in a car with a bunch of buddies. It's 14 hours. It's, first of all, crazy far to drive. Secondly, again, I probably spent five grand last year myself on that. That was just in the three-game series. How do people do it? Even if you bring the RV up, it's still going to cost you thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Well, I've brought this up for college football, too, with this stupid expanded playoff. I know we all love it. Oh, yeah, playoff. More teams. Yeah, let's add it. More rounds. More travel.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Like for Texas last year, what? Texas played at home against Clemson the first round. Then what was the second round, Ross? They had to play Arizona. Was that? Arizona State, yeah. Where did they play them? It was the Fiesta Bowl?
Starting point is 00:41:31 No, it was one of the bowls. Peach ball? No. In Atlanta? I think you're right. I think it was Atlanta. Because they went back to where they had just played in the SEC championship again. So, you're a Texas football fan.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And let's say you went to one or two road games last year. Then for the SEC title game, you had to find a way to go from Austin to Atlanta to go see Texas lose to Georgia. then they got the home playoff game against Clemson. They had to go back to Atlanta and see them play the next playoff game against Arizona State. They had to go to Dallas to the Cotton Bowl. Well, you don't have to do any of those things. I'm just saying like it's absolutely insane. The travel you have to put on the fan base just to make it through this playoff.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Well, yeah, they're putting, that's why they're here. That's why they're making all this money. That's why the playoff is here. It's for all this money making. But here's the stupidity of it. Affleck, Fritos, whatever the They don't spend money with those.
Starting point is 00:42:22 What do we do on? Whoever. Okay. Why not put the naming rights, put them on college campuses. Like, why can't Texas, if they're the one or two seed, play every round at DKR and put the naming rights on the stadium?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Amazon, the Amazon playoff game. They give ticket, yeah, they'd still have to give tickets, I guess, to the sponsors and have those kind of events and schmoozing stuff. I mean, maybe they'll do that, but that's,
Starting point is 00:42:47 what it's all about. It's not about pageantry and college. But having to go to all these cities, it's just, it's not fair on the fans. And then what do the schools keep doing? Guys, we need more money for NIL. Guys, we need more money. Hey, we're going to go up on season ticket. Stop asking the, you're pricing out college
Starting point is 00:43:03 football fans. Well, it's kind of happening everywhere, Gordy. Cost of housing and food is going up and wages are stagnant. I mean, it's just how they go around here. College football is becoming, it's for the elites. Correct. You have to have money to go. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And they don't care because if they're going to put, they're going to make more money putting these games all around the country. And they're still, let's see, the, well, the Atlanta, the game in the Peach Bowl, it was in Atlanta, 71,000. Of course, 100,000 plus in the game against Clemson, the home game. 75,000 at Cotton, AT&T Stadium for the Cotton Bowl Classic in the semifinal. They're getting people in there. And they're making money off all these tickets.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Well, there's here to here. The tickets are thousands of dollars. Yeah, the reality is it's for 90% of it's for the elite rich. Mm-hmm. And then you have a 10% group that, and I saw this when I was going to watch the Cougars. Kentucky, Kentucky fans budget for long-term it runs. They save $10,000. They bought that to go to Nashville for the SEC.
Starting point is 00:44:04 They budget everything. They don't, because I sat next to Kentucky fan one time. They're like, yeah, we budget for these things. So you have 10% of budget. You probably have 80% that are just super rich, and you have 10% that just go broke, trying to go follow their team. Well, and here's the other. part too. Texas makes a playoff
Starting point is 00:44:18 run for the first time. Everybody's excited. They're, oh, I'm going to follow them everywhere. You start doing it every year. You start to go, you know, I'm going to check out of the first two rounds. I'm going to save my money for the third playoff game. I was already there. If they went to the championship... Yeah, because you went to the Sugar Bowl two years ago. Yes. Well, I didn't want to, but I did.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And I well, also, I got... I looked at cheap tickets through here because we carried games. But you got to like start budgeting and planning it out. Absolutely. And then that's why I only really want to save money for if they make the championship game. I just wonder, guys, are we going to get to a point? We're going to have some playoff games that, like, end up,
Starting point is 00:44:52 let's say, I don't know, let's say like an NFL stadium gets involved. What's the one where the 49ers playing Santa Clara? What if they go, hey, we want a, we want a playoff game. And you end up having Bama versus Clemson in a first round playoff game in Santa Clara. And there'll be plenty of, there'll be plenty of. No, I disagree.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Half the stadium will be empty. Alabama's got a big enough fan base. They'll travel anywhere they want to go. And number one, yeah, they don't care if it's half empty anyways, because they're getting all the money from ESPN. Okay, say it's SMU versus Then you're talking in Colorado. But you're looking at about 10 schools.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Let's talk about schools that don't worry about empty stadiums. Texas are not worried about it. If A&M was to get that far, they'd fill the stadium up. Well, they're looking for any kind of precedes and success. Notre Dame, Michigan. I mean, I can probably go 20 deep. So if we're basically saying these are the same 20 schools that are competing for this national championship every year,
Starting point is 00:45:40 it's the same 20 schools that can fill the stadiums up. I don't think you're not acknowledging is it's one thing to say, Yeah, Notre Dame and versus Miami out in Santa Clara. Yeah, they'll sell those tickets. But I think those fans are going to start to go, no, I'll catch them the next round in Indianapolis. Or wherever the next round game is. You know what I mean? Like, oh, if they win that one, they're in the Cotton Bowl, so we'll skip the San Francisco trip.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Okay, how many empty seats were there in the first round this year of these games? Well, we say first round. The first round was college campuses this year. It's that next round that goes to all the other. I can try to find the attendance of all the games. If you think home campuses are a long-term thing, Gordy, you know you're wrong. I just think one, you can fit more people. You keep the pageantry of college football because, you know, the whole thing is it's college.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So maybe you do it on a college campus instead of going these stupid NFL stadiums that don't even seat as many people. Penn State, Boise State Fiesta Bowl had 63, 8-54. So basically 64,000. That's probably a lot of empty seats, right? Where? And the Fiesta Bowl? At the State-Fourn State. I would guess that seems probably 70 or 80, right?
Starting point is 00:46:46 I would probably guess. I'll look at it up. You guys keep talking. Peach Bowl with Texas, Arizona State had 71,000, this says, in Atlanta, Mercedes Bin Stadium. Rose Bowl had 90,000. Ohio State, Oregon. Yeah, I mean, that's, come on. Sugar Bowl, Notre Dame Georgia was only 57,000.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Now, that was a rescheduled because of the terrorist attacks. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's so down. Orange Bowl, Notre Dame Penn. state was 67,000.
Starting point is 00:47:16 State farm capacity in Phoenix is 63,000 to 400. Okay, so that was pretty sold out. I'm just saying we need to find a way to get these playoff games back on college campuses more. You can put the corporate sponsor on that game. It'd be cool, but I think you're going
Starting point is 00:47:32 just the opposite. Yeah, it's not going to work. Before we let you go, we got to call, people actually want to talk to you about something. George, what do you got today? Yeah, so it's an interesting discussion about you know, it started off college baseball, shoot to the college football. There's a certain amount of eologic here. First of all, I don't believe that the solution to making,
Starting point is 00:47:52 to being more fair to the fans is to make it, is to make the college football playoff locations 100% more favorable to half of the fans by doing it at home locations. But isn't that the benefit of earning a top seat? You get to play at home? I mean, sorry, if you're the 12 seat, you should have a better year. as fairness, but that's not the same as fairness to the fans. That's maybe advantageous for on-field success, but you can't say.
Starting point is 00:48:18 So you're telling me a Notre Dame fan wouldn't want, I get like it's going to be tough to go on the road. But Notre Dame at Texas in the second round, you don't think Notre Dame fans would, man, I've never been to Austin. I'd love to go see that college campus. Like, fans would, fans would appreciate it. That'd be fun. Who wants to go to go tailgate and Jerry's parking lot out in Dallas? Like, there's no obviats there at all.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I think I think the visiting fans would rather play at a neutral site than play at the other team. Well, yeah, because you're scared you're going to get your ass beat, but my answer to that is play better.
Starting point is 00:48:51 If you win your damn division, you'll be a higher seed. You'll play your games at home. Okay, so you're, you're, that's like the Texans saying, I don't want to go to New England. Can we get a neutral field site?
Starting point is 00:49:02 Can we go play? Can we play the Patriots in Atlanta? You said your concern earlier was fan fairness. Now you say your concern is advantageing the team with the better record. Because you brought it up. Dufus?
Starting point is 00:49:14 Hey, go, George. You're the one. You're not a doofus. You're the one who started by talking about fan fairness, and you weren't be logical about it. I'm saying fan fairness from a standpoint of, it's college football. Hey, here's a crazy idea. Maybe you play the games on college campuses
Starting point is 00:49:30 and stop playing them at NFL stadiums. It's stupid. Right, but that's not the reason you originally gave. You originally gave the reasons is unfair to the fans, and yet what you want to do, give an additional advantage for one set of fans. I'm saying it's unfair for the fans to travel all the way across the country constantly following their team just for corporate sponsorships.
Starting point is 00:49:50 If you've got to travel across the country to go play in an opposing stadium, that's, again, that makes more sense to me. And there's a larger level of illogic here, which is if you think it's surprising and frustrating that the college athletic programs have basically sold entirely out to corporate revenue and television revenue, what did you think was going to happen over the last couple of years when you've been one the loudest advocates for the complete
Starting point is 00:50:17 liberalization of NIL payments? Did you think it would be anything else? And if you did think of anything else, you were incredibly short-sighted. Well, George, I'll work on my thesis and we'll get back to you when we do 48 hours of research. George, don't be
Starting point is 00:50:33 a stranger to the show, man. There's a disconnect. One doesn't have to do with the other. NIL and the corporate sponsorships was like he's talking about with the Fiesta Bowl and all that stuff. Chick-fil-A has been on that bowl game in Atlanta long before NIL. Yeah, the corporations have had their hooks into college football for decades. All I'm saying is Coca-Cola. It doesn't have to do with NIL.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I don't know, give me a bowl game sponsor. Capital One. A Capital One could still put their logos all over DKR and have a game in Austin and still be the Capital One Bowl. But our friend George is conflating the ideas. This is one, NIL and corporate sponsorships are two different things. I think it is genuine of you to watch. want to have these on college campuses. Yeah, it's a cool idea.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It's a nice idea. It's a novel concept. College football on the college campus. You're about to get a new source of revenue by putting these in NFL stadiums. And that's what the... If you're now asking NCAA to fill... to pay these colleges, they're going to say we need additional revenue sources to pay these athletes. We're going to put these...
Starting point is 00:51:30 But do the math, Matt. What's the N-RG seat? 68,000? Okay. What's the college... Most of the SEC school seat 100,000. But you can't guarantee that the game's going to be played in Bryant-Denny Stadium. You can't.
Starting point is 00:51:42 If you're the number one seed, you're going to, the higher seeds will host. But you can't guarantee that every year that out. I can guarantee if I put a game at Jerry World, I'm going to have 100,000 people. If I'm going to put a game at NRG, I'm going to have 70,000 every single time. I can guarantee you. And they're going to have to get that money split. What if, what if TCU's number one seat? They won't be a top four seed.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Well, you can't presume that. I mean, you're logically thinking, I understand what you're saying. but Eamon Carter 40,000 is going to be a huge detriment. If your home stadium seats less than 70, we move to the nearest NFL stadium. All right, exactly, yeah. You know what? U of H ends up in the playoff. They only see that little baby stadiums.
Starting point is 00:52:20 40,000. We're going to host number one seat. And one more thing for George, how is it the liberalization of NIL? It's free market. Right. That's not state controlled. Yeah, let people make what they want to make. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I mean, come on, George. Tommy Toberville, I don't like all these boys making money. We got to restrict this. Why don't you sound like Yosemite Sam? Because that's who Tommy Tubber real is. I like that. Did it again. Did it again.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I do declare these young men are trying to make too much money. That's just foghorn and leghorn now. Yeah. Why are you changing voices? Yeah. Yosemite Sam is a bunch of angrier, louder. So if Yosemite Sam was thirsty, what would he want to do and drink? Well, he might be saying, I do declare I need a Crawford Bach from all friends at
Starting point is 00:53:00 call Bach Brewing. And if you had, if you're watching the Astros this weekend, watching them at home, listening at home to the Angels, Late Night Affair again, guys. Love this week out in Oakland or Sacktown, wherever they are. Astros playing late night games. Make sure you got the fridge loaded with. Playing a Crawford Bach from our friends at Carbock. Brewing was out of establishment the other day, and they had to Crawford Bach on top.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Love to see it. Love to see it around town. Whether you're at the grocery, gas station, liquor store, wherever it is, you can find the Crawford Bock loaded up and stocked all over town. And then the Astros back in town next week at Dijk in Park. You can get yourself an ice cold Crawford Bach. Just goes better watching the Astros, listening to the Strohs. Do so right here on 790. And go coastal Carolina 1118 on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 00:53:41 During the next month or so, before things really start to heat up again, and we've got the baseball pennant drive, and we'll have Texans training camp and start off. See, we're going to get Eddie Nunez come in, the athletic director of U of H because I just, I don't really understand much about the revenue streams in terms of who gets what, who pays for what, what the rules are. And maybe Eddie won't be able to give us a great clarification.
Starting point is 00:54:09 But it's highly confusing. But I can guarantee you that they're going to take these games away from these stadium sites. These first round things are going to be a thing in the past. Oh, you think so? Absolutely. May not be tomorrow. May not be in two years. But are you telling me you're going to go to a 16-team format, right?
Starting point is 00:54:27 I don't want them to, but I guess they're going to. And they're going to open up what four more stadiums they can go to to play? What do they do with that? Are they going to do 16, like one play 16? Like if you're the best team in the country all season long, you don't get any buy, maybe you get no buys? Well, maybe you would have, do a double buy?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Maybe one to four gets a buy? The first eight play and those four go play the next eight on the next four? Yeah. Again, they don't even know the answer to that. You either get a double buy or no buy. Right. And that's ridiculous. How many games is that?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Oh, when do we start worrying about how many games A college athletes going to play? That was all the talk, even when there was no playoff, remember? Oh, these student athletes, it's all about the student athletes. They're going to miss their finals. Now they don't seem to care with all that cash. ESPN's going to pay us how much? Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Let's go. I mean, when is Disney going to stop paying? When does Disney shock shareholders going to go, are you sure we spend on this? When they stop making money off of it? College football is a huge boon for them. It clearly must be. The ratings are great.
Starting point is 00:55:36 People watch. We complain about it. Like you've said, Matt, and we've said. We talk about NIL and conference realignment and all that stuff. Then what happens Saturday night? It's Alabama and Georgia. We're watching. It's Houston versus everybody.
Starting point is 00:55:54 It's on ESPNU at 3 a.m. and nobody cares. That's not true. We'll be on ESPN plus in prime time for that opening Thursday. an night game against SFA? Really? I think there's some badminton on that I'll be watching instead on the SPN Plus. But yeah, it is... So let's do this.
Starting point is 00:56:13 If they go to 16 teams, let's say we give the top 4 by, that would mean 5 would play 16. Boy, I have to get out of the algorithm. The top 8 would play, that would leave 4, then you're down to 12. Then they would play the next 4, who got 1 by,
Starting point is 00:56:29 and that means 1 through 4 would get 2 buys. Does that make sense? Not really, but I think if you show it to me on a map, it'll be fine. I trust you more than me. You go eight. So you start with 16, you'd eight play, four when you're down to 12. Yep. Then the next eight play for when you're down at eight.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah. Okay. So really, if you are a top four, you get two weeks off. But I don't know if they would do that. Or you just do one play 16, and that's that. Well, one. It'd be crazy to go through a whole season. You win your, you've won the SEC or Big Ten championship.
Starting point is 00:57:01 You're the number one seat. One seat is likely going to be the big tenor, SEC champion. And then you can be out in one game. If 16 was to play a spectacular game. Just like the college basketball tournament. It's football. You get two pick sixes. You're basically could win the game.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Or you're in college basketball and you're playing you're a three versus a 14 and you miss a bunch of free throws or three point shots. You're done. Exactly. But I mean, hey, it creates drama elimination. But we don't seem to hate that. No, we don't. I mean, I've talked about it in general.
Starting point is 00:57:30 I wish there were some better. system that they would do. Yeah. But it just doesn't make sense, I guess. What would you even do? The top 24 teams in the country in three-game series or something? I don't know. That doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Well, you're going to get the college basketball. It's going to expand to probably 72 teams. What if they did football? What if they did top 16, three-game series, like the NBA playoffs? No. You can't play series in football. I know. No, I'm talking about basketball.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Oh, yeah, yeah. And playing in one site. They would never do it. No, no, no. No, I think I think NCAA is like Marchman and St. broke, we ain't going to try to face it. Except we're just going to add a other bracket.
Starting point is 00:58:08 But the best team in the country doesn't always win. That's right. And the best teams in the country last year were Duke in Houston. Do you see my head just drop right there? I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to take a shot there. No, no, no. I'll take a lot of shot like 17.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I know when you take shots to me, that wasn't a shot. That's what it's like to be an elite team is that when you don't win it, you are super crushed. Like if you're a nine scene. If you're Marquette and you lose, okay, so what? Yeah, like 21 Astros didn't win at all. It's like, okay, yeah, the Braves were better. If you're Notre Dame basketball, oh, you're a 60, that's great.
Starting point is 00:58:42 You're probably going to get bounced in the sweet 16. That was a good run. Yeah, I'm with you. I didn't think the Longhorns were the best team in football the last two years. But I think they could have won in 2009 when Colt McCoy got hurt. But here's the crazy part about U of H. We're going to be preseason number one. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Which means the bullseye is right on us. Yeah, that's nobody I'm not, but since the point, my point is, I'm not used to this. Nobody's taking the Cougars lightly for the last several years. I know, but I'm not, I'm not accustomed to this. I'm not, I've never been the favorite in anything in my life. That's why the underdog Thomas. All right, we got an update quickly on the Rockets.
Starting point is 00:59:20 We'll save for the news at noon. I'll read it. Okay, good. Sure, I'll throw it to you, Matt. It's more NBA Central stuff. Okay. But again, it's just more conjecture. You love NBA Central.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I do. The Centell, I don't, because if you get fooled by it once, I've blocked them. It's a block. It's an easy one. All right. What do you want to apologize for? There are a lot of, you need to apologize to Frank.
Starting point is 00:59:42 We'll see. I think it's very appropriate. I think some of the bad mixing this week by Jonathan knows and it's an apology. The listeners, an apology. We'll have that coming up for you in a matter of minutes. I'll have been laughing. You should be laughing because, I mean, it was a slight jab, but not a big one. 713-212-5-790.
Starting point is 01:00:01 7-13-21-2-5-7-90. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. If you want to apologize to anyone for anything, 7-13-212-5-7-90, 7-1-3-21-2-5-7-90. Time for you to say your sorry-neck. Ross sure as hell needs this. I guarantee you, John, that needs this. Time for you to call and say one little simple phrase. us here at 790.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I'm sorry, so sorry. This is the opportunity for the next 25 minutes to call the radio program. You've sent something to your in-laws. You've sent something to your co-worker, somebody on the street, maybe the neighbor that's making too much noise at 2 o'clock in the morning. Maybe that driver you cut off. Maybe that caller that you were rude to. who was struggling at 610 in Westheimer earlier today.
Starting point is 01:01:08 You call 713-212-5-790 and say these very simple words. I'm sorry. 7-13-212-5-7-90. Ross, you are first. I'm first. All right, fine. To the sweet, lovable, furry, and always biting the Thomas family hamster, cheeks.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I made a number of cold, crass, uncaring remarks about your recent passing. Go ahead and do it. And it wasn't right. You lived a great life with your cotton balls and your water spigot. And I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. family, accepts your apology. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yes, and I would like to apologize to the Thomas family as well. I like to wish my son Cameron a happy 25th birthday today. Really? Yep, my birthday. I'm going to text him. Oh, no, no. And I would like to apologize to him in advance for telling him happy birthday and now clean up my office. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I didn't even separate it on one text. It was rude. You couldn't send two different ones? You couldn't hit period and send? I didn't say. What I should have done is, happy birthday, son. I give the exclamation point so they at least get the confetti pop up on the iPhone. I always try to do that.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Yeah. And then you follow up, Matt. Yeah. At least give him a moment of confetti. Yeah. I didn't do that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:02:51 You're sorry? Man, that's rude. But he did. My office is a mess because of him. He's got all his golf equipment all over the place. Golf equipment. What's he doing? He's playing a lot of golf.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I mean, yeah, you would think when we've got a golf equipment, He's playing golf, Ross. I don't know if he was caddying or... No, who's catty anymore? I don't know. When do you go caddy somewhere? You guys are at the Kingwood Country Club and whatnot all the time, so I don't know. Caddies are the Kingwood Country Club.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Well, you're not invited ours. I know. They try to make me go through the service entrance. I know. It was messed up. Yikes. John, then, what are you going to apologize for this week? I got to apologize to the dental secretary at the office
Starting point is 01:03:39 You were hitting on her, weren't you? No, she was hit on me. She said I had a beautiful smile. But that's the top of it. Oh. No, that's what all the dentists say. Right, right, right. But I was told that I was going to get my consultation at 1 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Yeah? Friday morning hits, oh, can you come at 11? I'm thinking I'm going to have my consultation and then my surgery, right, 11. Oh, cool. We get there doing the whole. thing and I have to get somebody with me. So I brought my dad because I was going to be under anesthesia. Yeah. We do the whole thing, pay
Starting point is 01:04:09 and everything. They're like, okay, just sit outside in the lobby and then we'll come back and get you. It comes to 115. I don't know. Everybody in front of me gets their name called. So me and my dad kind of went up to the front desk lady and kind of
Starting point is 01:04:27 had a couple of words with her. And it was like, you're wasting our time. My dad had to be somewhere. I was just upset that I couldn't, I was sitting there in a boring office with no internet service. And I took it out on her and kind of, uh, she kind of got a little teary eyed. Wait a minute. It was a double team. I wouldn't say it's fully my, you know, I tried to this escalate, but I really wanted to
Starting point is 01:04:51 apologize to her today because I was thinking about her. I'm like, you know what? She didn't deserve that. She was just doing her job. And the poor management wasn't her fault. So I wanted to say I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:01 So let's get, let's take a step back. now. You made the girl cry. No, no, no. I've been going to doctors and Ross, you've been going to the doctors for, what, all of our life? Mm-hmm. Have you ever made a receptionist cry? No. Me either. Not even close. We're looking at between
Starting point is 01:05:17 90-plus years from the two of us. In all those years, we've never made a receptions ever cry. I, doctor, no. I'll tell you this. Dennis, no. No. I'll tell you this. General practitioner, no. No. We got, we got our appointment. We got, I got called in in the next five minutes, though. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Did you ever apologize to her while you were there? I didn't see her afterwards. I probably wouldn't have either. Why don't you call the dentist and that? Do you know her name? No, I have no idea who was. You're going to let this linger on for the rest of your life, aren't you? No, I was fine afterwards.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Okay. She's okay. She did worse people like Matt Thomas and Rosson. Oh. Who have never made anybody cry. I remember I remember an office receptionist cry. I said she got teary-eyed. She was conflicted with emotions.
Starting point is 01:06:04 She probably was pissed. Let me ask you this question. This is a serious one. Have you ever made someone cry because of a complaint you've made? No. And I've been mad about things. I mean, that's just human nature. But I've never made anybody cry.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I made my kids cry. My wife cry. I've complained about a variety of things. Yes. But never an employee of something. I think it was my family for mine. Is your dad hot-blooded? And my mom.
Starting point is 01:06:31 My dad was when I started it. And then, you know, I piggybacked. It was, it was ganged up on this poor girl. So basically you're throwing dad under the bus on the show. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, it seems like it. I'm apologizing for us together. Oh, does he know about this apology?
Starting point is 01:06:45 Does he authorize this? He needs to apologize. He signed up on this. That's funny. I'm sorry. You ever made a waiter cry? No. Waitress?
Starting point is 01:06:53 No, no. I mean, I've been criticized. Believe me. I made you ever made you cry? No. I got work to do then. I would have to take you seriously first. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I would like to apologize to Chris Gordy for doubting him that he was on a tarmac for six hours on Monday. Yeah, you should apologize, actually. That was bad. You called out a fellow worker, and you called him a flat out liar. I didn't say flat out liar. I said, I think he's lying.
Starting point is 01:07:19 But I wasn't for sure. I said, I think. I didn't say definitively knew. That was crazy. And how about if you, if you didn't hear Gordy earlier today, he got zero travel certificates. his wife got $800
Starting point is 01:07:33 he'll probably pay for the tickets anyway. That's probably why it went to her. Yeah, I was going to say, you usually reward those that actually put the credit card in the name on it. So I'm feeling that bad for it. Sugar mama. But I'm sorry that he had to sit on a tarmac for six hours. I would lose my mind if I was on a tarmac for six hours.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Why was the plane bubbling, by the way? Did we ever get to the bottom of that? Don't know that. Don't planes usually bubble after multiple hours? No, no roof? I would start praying. That was, yeah. That's like the block.
Starting point is 01:08:01 is trying to get in. It's not good. All right. Everybody wants to get on the phones and do a little sorry? Okay, fine. I will apologize. Hold on. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I'm telling you, we have lots of listeners, okay? We do. Flawed listeners. It's fine. We have great people that listen to the show that don't normally call or just, or maybe sometimes they call on some, maybe they're busy. You guys, it's 1140 on a Friday. You've already mailed it in the rest of the week.
Starting point is 01:08:27 You're like our sales staff for the most part, okay? You've checked out. You need to apologize to the self-town. You do. It's a holiday week. It's not a holiday week. Today's a regular day. Yeah, but I told you, it's a donut hole.
Starting point is 01:08:38 A lot of people taking this day off. Okay. You need to call in an apology. Nobody's listening to this show that's done everything right. So I'm calling you all out. And I'm not sorry for doing it. Ross, what were you going to say? I'm sorry to Frank.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Good. For calling you stupid. Yes. I mean, I made a point that completely conflicted with what you were saying, and you said it made your point. And then you somehow said, I was jealous because I had hair. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:09:07 I mean, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Mm-hmm. But I'm sorry for calling you stupid. Oh, sorry. And I'm going to leave it there. Sorry, Frank. Have a great Friday and have a great weekend. Frank, the backup says he's sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:26 All right now. I'm trying to be nice, Matt. I'm trying to be nice. He liked that. I can't believe he called you the backup. That's terrible. He's here every day. He's the co-host.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Poor phrasing. Poor, poor phrasing. Some would say that shows a lack of intellect, but I'm not going to say that. I'm so saying it. I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it. I'm saying I'm sorry. We blame Matt for the instigating.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I didn't insigate anything. Look at you. Now you're trying to. Okay. So let's put things in perspective here. I've got my co-host rips on callers and my producer rips on just receptions who have nothing to do with his soism teeth being pulled. You live and you learn, you know. That's true.
Starting point is 01:10:18 He's very young. But does your father feel bad about this situation? Absolutely not. Okay. That may be the bigger issue then. All right. If you want to come and apologize, your last call is coming up next. Gary's going to start a new cany.
Starting point is 01:10:30 713-212-5-790. 713-212-5-790. All right, we got some people that finally stepped up to the plate and are going to apologize for their actions. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. We're with you till 2 o'clock today. We have the strippers are going to wake them up at noon today. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:10:52 We have someone in here that's listening to the show right now who is not familiar with... Hired or perspective? I don't remember. I think she probably has a job. She probably has a job. Yes. We'll put a good word in.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Yeah, we will. But she doesn't know the show. So she's, she heard about, she's now hearing about the strippers. So this young lady's introduction to your show, our show, right. Is going to be you screaming strippers at the top of your lungs in 10 minutes. Yes. And she's going to like, what kind of creep is this I'm about to work for? And if you want to, you can sell the show if you want to.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Sports Talk 7-90. 10 to noon. 10 to 2. All right, let's talk to Gary in New Caney. Gary, what do you have to say you're sorry for? Well, Matt, I want to tell you, I'm sorry. I went to the country club the other day and met your wife. We had a great time.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I'm just sorry. I should never done that to you. So sorry. Yeah, he's a printer. That was horrific. I missed it. He called, Gary called and said he saw my wife at the country club and apologized for what he did. What?
Starting point is 01:12:16 Yeah, that's exactly right. That's the best material that somebody's driving around in a city of six million people have. You had all day to come up with that. All day. So disappointed. Robert, what do you got to apologize for? Yeah, I don't feel really bad about this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I need to apologize about my gossiping and talking bad about Jake Myers. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. You know what? Your bad mouthing. Let's go. Spill your beans. Well, no, I, first, he's starting to swing the bat well. He's going the other way.
Starting point is 01:12:57 He's really, I feel like he's really, he's moved into a good place with a swing. So I feel really good there. Good swing decisions. Good contact. Absolutely. Now, I, he makes okay plays in the outfield. He doesn't make the great. play. He's had trouble.
Starting point is 01:13:16 He's had trouble with balls over his head as he's running towards the fence. Now, those are plays that... He's a gold-glove finalist last year, Robert. I'm not a... Okay, the Robert rankings are different. I get it. But he was a gold-glove finals for Major League Baseball. What exactly are the Robert rankings?
Starting point is 01:13:34 The Robert rankings are, I kind of hold... He's not a George Springer. He's not a... Who's an Andrew Jones, but guys like... Oh, yeah, I'm sorry he's not... Andrew Drones, one of the greatest interfielder's of all time who was at 29 years old and not even in arbitration making like a million dollars
Starting point is 01:13:51 it doesn't even really feel like I'm sorry right now it doesn't feel like you're sorry at all you think that's also part of the bit of this second you're also being attacked Robert Ross has been very aggressive today I'm sorry I'm president of the Jake Myers fan club I got a stump from my guy yeah no I knew that yeah go ahead Robert knows it's in fun he's laughing you should probably hang up and try this again next week okay take the L and have a nice weekend thank you very much Robert. Robert's laughing. He knows we're having a good time. I didn't mean that.
Starting point is 01:14:17 He's called us from Virginia. We're number one in demographics in Virginia. Absolutely. They love us there. I know. Big sales to be made over in Virginia. Newport News loves us. Yes. Alexandria? Alexandria. Big fans of ours. Virginia Beach can't get enough of the Matt Thomas showed Ross. Jake Myers is hitting 304 with a 771 OPS.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And playing a gold glove center field. I'll say it. He missed, he's been missing a couple. He is right. He's missed a few places. He's got gold glove range. He's had some trouble in Sacramento. I mean, the start of the games, the sun's been coming down. I don't know. I don't know if he forgot his contacts on the road trip, but he missed a couple plays.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I will give him that. He's not as bad as that Arkansas left field or was, though. Well, who is? That was beer league stuff. That was bad. Brian on 790, Brian, what do you have to say you're sorry for? I would like to apologize to you personally. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:08 I, I met today I said you were completely anti-NHL to Houston that's not characterized with you back and found an old clip you were you are skeptical skeptical for sure so Matt I'm a big enough man to say I am sorry for Ms. Kay it will never work
Starting point is 01:15:25 your antipathy to NHL working characterizing we're having phone issues yeah that's Brian you sound like you're 13 years old and that's fine you sound like he had a helium balloon that's not his fault Brian oh your fault Brian no I'm sorry that our phones
Starting point is 01:15:42 systems. We move to web-based phones and they're horrible. Yeah. I'm talking about best back here, guys. It's not your fault. Yeah, it's not your fall. I mean, it's easy to blame you and we probably will eventually, but not right now. Under our breath. Let's go to Ed and Magnolia. Ed, what did say you're sorry for? Well, I got to apologize to all you guys. You and Ross and Jonathan, really, when I called the other day on my dumb-ass call. And I regretted it ever since. I felt like dirty afterwards. Oh, no. We're family. We're family, Ed.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I got to apologize to you and Ross and John and really when I I mentioned that I was called to talk about the NHL and I don't dig all these no ice states winning the cup but that's that's just me I'm a hockey purist from I understand I understand that's fine but anyway listen man I just want to say I'm sorry and my original attempt was to compliment you guys on your show. Well, thank you. And I got a little side, I got a little sideways. And that's my bad, dude. So I felt bad about that. Ed, you're the best. We didn't, we didn't think twice about it, my friend. I was sleepless, actually. I've been sleepless. Thank you, Ed. No, remember Ed said that I was okay by myself because I had guessed. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:17:02 He said I was, yeah, he said I was trying too hard. Yeah, and told me on the phone that it was about NHL and did not even talk about it. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. At least he criticized, at least he criticized every single show in our lineup. Yeah. So that made me feel a little bit better. And we did. He's like, morning shows terrible.
Starting point is 01:17:18 You guys are not good, especially when you're not a good to. And what did he say? Two to six is a snooze, I think? Snoose Fest. Snoose Fest. And he also talked about Sean Salisbury's numbers in the NFL for games he wasn't there for. But we don't care. Oh, that was him.
Starting point is 01:17:31 That was that. Okay. Well, thank you. And he apologized. Yeah. We're best. He's still listening. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:36 The keto great friendship with radio listeners and your relationship. relationships in life in general. It's to be able to apologize. Yeah. Communication. Warmth. Hmm. Kindness. Openness. Open your heart, Matt. Be ready to say that you're not perfect. Yeah, exactly. All right. 1157 on Sports Talk 7. We have a fantasy five we've got a draft for here. Oh my God. I haven't even written my list. I'll write my list in the next five seconds. Okay. Now, how are we going to get these songs played? There's no way. What do you mean? Jonathan can't do this. Why not? It's a lot of work in a short period of time. What are you talking about? I got to put the songs as soon as you say them. We're like, what's, we're going to. Yeah, we're going to. Yeah, we're going to. We're going to. Yeah, we're going to. We're going to. Yeah, we're going to do. We're to send you the list of 10 songs, you're going to pull up a few tabs of YouTube and have the ones in the system. We're good to go, Matt.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Okay. What was that noise? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a nervous click over there. It's a confident high. Are you in a Tejano band in your off time? If anybody's higher, hey, hey, I'm on. You play the accordion?
Starting point is 01:18:33 All right. We got to wake the strippers up next, which is going to confuse this young lady that's in our office right now. She's like, what are you talking about? I'll tell her this story during the break. Please do. And we have to get the noon open ready. Vanessa Richon is going to join us at 1220.
Starting point is 01:18:46 She is, I think, traveling. I mean, she may be in a different airport. I don't know. She may be back in Oklahoma City, whatever the case. Maybe we'll talk to her coming up in about to 20 minutes from now. 713-212-5-7-90. If you'd like to be a part of our radio show today, that's 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. You want to follow us on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:19:04 We'd love for you to do that. at SportsMT, at SportsRV, and at Sports Talk 790. 12-04 in H-Town. Goers! And welcome to our three at the Matt Thomas Show at Ross. This is Sports Talk 790. RIP Cheeks. Cheeks of Hamster.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Want to listen to the show? The end demo? I don't think Cheeks is in demo, actually. Two-year-old hamsters in our demographic now? No. Okay. Kind of disposable income? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:02 By the way, my girlfriend said you killed the hamster by feeding him too much. Wait a minute. She doesn't know anything. What are you talking about? She was listening to the clips. When did she become a hamster expert? You? I'm just, don't.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Just because your girl says some doesn't mean it's a truth. Oh, stop. That's ridiculous. Did you know why he got cancer? I don't know. You can't get cancer by fina hamster too much. The hamster lived longer than the average hamster loves. That hamster should appreciate the food we fed. We got him prime corn on the cob.
Starting point is 01:20:38 We got them prime the seeds. Look, guys, there's no sense in fighting over what happened to Cheeks. I don't need, I don't need a stress. A girl to tell me that. What's going on? Damn. We just have to, we just have to accept that Cheeks is gone. I don't even know his girl, and she's taking shots of the way I raised my hamsters.
Starting point is 01:20:54 That's in kind of weird That is interesting That's a sentence you never thought you'd say Never in my entire life Yeah Never my entire life All right It's 12-08 time now for the news
Starting point is 01:21:03 At noon And with that We go to the sports laboratory Yes Where Rossville or Real is put together An amazing summation Of what's happening in the world of sports We've been working on this for hours
Starting point is 01:21:17 Matt Yeah But we will start with The Houston Astros A disappointing walk-off lost The second one in four games in Sacramento. Here's a 2-1.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And Kurtz hits it high in the air, pretty deep to center. This is going to win the game. Myers is back, and it's gone. A walk-off two-run, home-run for Nick Kurtz. His second walk-off two-run, home run of this series,
Starting point is 01:21:43 and the A's wined in the bottom of the 10th, 6 to 4. Home run number 9 on the year for Kurtz, and his fourth home run in the last five games. Nick Kurtz. Nick Kurtz.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Nick Kurtz with a home run. Two walk-offs in one series against the Astros. They lose 6 to 4. That's the under 10 and a half for you, Matt Thomas. Josh Hayter's ERA up to 1.67
Starting point is 01:22:13 because only one of those runs was earned. Colton Gordon was solid enough. Five innings to earn, excuse me, three runs. Two of them earned. A walk for strikeouts. Got a 4.54 ERA. on the year. Jake Myers, the only, I'm sorry, Jake Myers and Jeremy Payne, the only Astros with a multi-hit game in this one. See Astros lose and now fly to Anaheim, or of course they're already in Anaheim for an 838 first pitch tonight on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Matt Thomas with the Astros on deck show coming up at 7.30. And it'll be you say Kikuchi going against his old teammates. Yes. I would favor the Astros in that. Astros still five games ahead of the Seattle. Mariner's as they continue to hold an advantage in the American League West. They, by the way, are a half game behind the New York Yankees for the second seed in the American League. Yeah, because the Yankees did beat the Angels yesterday. Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:09 All right. Also, in the sports news last night, the Indiana Pacers defeat the Oklahoma City Thunder to force game seven in the NBA finals. 108 to 91, the victory for the SERS, as they call them. How do you feel about that nickname, by the way? The sirs. No opinion whatsoever. I think it's terrible, but it's so bad it's funny. So I kind of like it.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Does that make sense? It's stupid. Yeah, I don't like it at all. It's so bad, it makes me laugh. What is it called the sirs? They wear shirts and say, yes, sirs. Well, Vanessa Richardson, who is a pacer fan. Is it growing up?
Starting point is 01:23:46 Okay. We'll ask her opinion about it. Okay. She'll be joining us and she gives us her trials and tribulations of traveling in about 10 minutes. My opinion is it's so bad. It's good. Tyrese Halliburton playing on a hurt calf. He still had 14 points, five assists, and it was a lot of benchwork for the Pacers. 20 points from Obie Toppin. 12 from T.J. McConnell, let T.J. Cook, 12 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists. He's been one of the unsung heroes, Matt. I cannot believe this game. This series has gone seven games. I am stunned. And all my stunts is going to seven, but how game six was lousy last night. It just was.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Anything can happen in a game seven. Thunder's seven and a half point favorites. And I believe it's going to cost you more than about $1,400 a ticket if you want to be in the building for game seven. Well, that's the price of poker. You know what I love about these finals? Play, tell us. The crowds.
Starting point is 01:24:38 The Pacers fans were standing up the whole game. First of all, everybody wears the shirt. Nobody had certain arenas that might rhyme with Moyota Minter. Yeah. Wear the shirt. They just take them home if the seats are even full. But I love that both of the. teams, they have two of the best crowds
Starting point is 01:24:55 in basketball. That's really added to the experience of watching the NBA finals. If you said Matt, send me on an NBA road trip to five cities that embrace the game and the event, they're on my list. But also if you want a good city for restaurants and things to do. I would not, well,
Starting point is 01:25:11 I would choose Indiana, but I wouldn't go there like six times in two weeks. Yeah. Okay. Oklahoma City's I mean, Toby Keyes' restaurant wasn't very good, so I'm done with it. One more thing, Matt. Things, as far tensions are boiling over between the Dodgers and Padres. Otani taking a 100 mile an hour fastball to his right shoulder blade.
Starting point is 01:25:33 You also had Fernando Tatis Jr. getting hit twice in a game last night. Benches clearing between the Dodgers and Padres. The rivalry in the National League West is alive and well. Do we even have a rival right now, the Astros? Who's, I would say Rangers over the last several years, biggest rival. But who is the last time the Astros got to fight with anybody? It would be the Rangers. I think Dolos Garcia and Martin Maldonado.
Starting point is 01:25:58 That was in the regular season, I think. Marcus Simeon. Who stomped on the home plate? Was it Garcia or Simeon? That was Simeon. And then Martin Maldonado got all pissy. Yeah. And then Benches cleared.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Oh, then they had, it was when Hector Narris went after, was it Julio Rodriguez when he struck him out with the Mariners? Because the Mariners were hitting everybody. And Hector got it suspended, correct? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:22 About the Mariners. Mariner's a major. We're anti-Mariners. Mariners suck. Yeah, they're overrated. All right. And that's your news and new. Thanks very much.
Starting point is 01:26:29 All right. We're going to check in with Vanessa in Oklahoma City. See how her travels that you're going. Is she there already? Okay. I think so. You're telling her. I'm playing.
Starting point is 01:26:38 I'm playing around like an hour ago. Okay. We'll check in with her next. Wonderful. 1214. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. 7-1-3-212-7-9. If you want to jump into the conversation, you may do so.
Starting point is 01:26:47 We're also going to draft Ross and I are Fantasy Five of Songs of Summer. Vanessa is going to join us in a couple of minutes. I think she's. getting on the plane, probably in first class. All the miles is flying these days. NBA Centelle went to Brits. This guy, Brett Siegel again, Ross. Central.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Central. Central. Excuse me. The Rockets have repeatedly offered Jalen Green and the 10th pick for Kevin Durant and have refused to include players like Jabari Smith Jr. Tyreece and Reed Shepard. All right. See, quoting this one.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Let me give me one more thing. Go ahead. Quote, Jalen Green and the 10th pick to this year's draft presents a clear opportunity for the rocket. to swing a deal. But the sons have demanded and more. Sources say, Jabari, and Reid are among the young talents in Houston and the Phoenix has expressed interest in.
Starting point is 01:27:32 The Rockets have not been willing to part with any of the three to this point. That according to Brett Siegel of clutch points. Agreed. They've repeatedly said, hey, Jalen Green and the 10th. No, that doesn't sound right to me. You know what I'm saying? Why would they repeatedly offer the same thing? I don't know. Maybe I'm just misreading or mishearing the wording.
Starting point is 01:27:53 How about this? If the Rockets said we'll give you Jalen and the 10th, the son say no. The sons say give us Jalen, 10, and Reed, and the Rockets can say no. So there's a bunch of people repeatedly saying no to each other.
Starting point is 01:28:09 That's right. That's how I interpreted it. Every time that the Phoenix Suns ask for something, the Rockets say no. That's not, when I hear repeatedly, that's what I think of. Then another thing that happened on in this NBA Central. According to Boogie Cousins,
Starting point is 01:28:26 Boogie Cousins is breaking news? Let's go. There's nothing to do with the Rockets. According to Boogie Cousins, the Phoenix Suns reportedly had multiple fights in their locker room this past season. Guess who chimed in on that? On Twitter. Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Love it. This is why I love Kevin Durant being on Twitter. He says the following. I have to contest his 94 footer. This some BS, and he puts the word on there to throw on. us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were trashes here. Ha, ha, ha. But we never got close to this. Never.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Now, I called half a Boogie Seasons game. Remember when he was a short-term rocket? Yes. He scared me. Okay. And I think, after watching him beat up a fan in the stands a little while ago overseas, I think he still scares me to this day.
Starting point is 01:29:19 He looks like the most unhyping man in the history of human beings. Hmm. Certainly, you would say. Certainly. But why would Boogie make that up and I guess the question would be could Boogie make that up? I don't know. Maybe there were heated arguments
Starting point is 01:29:43 but not fistfights? Shoveing. But Kevin Durant was so mad about it. He went right to his Twitter account. He said never got close to this. Now Kevin Durant's always on Twitter. Which I love. Once he got caught in the burner he's like, you know what, screw it. I don't care about you. I'm going to be on my regular Twitter. On my main account. If he becomes a rocket, I'm going to ask him to follow me.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Okay. Get my Twitter account up. He is following almost 1,500 accounts. I mean, what's 15-on-one among friends? That's what I'm saying. He follows Ballsack Sports. Oh, geez. All right, let's say how to Vanessa.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Where are you, by the way? I just got to my apartment. I am doing laundry before I go to OKC for game seven. So I was going to ask you, and by way, we don't care about the game. We don't care about you. Oh, cute. I know. Have you been home much? What is going on? Where have you been the last? I mean, I know where you've been. What do you mean? I know that. First of all, why are you calling me in your bathroom? Are you in the shower right now? What's going on with that? It sounds like you're in a tunnel. No. I'm not in the bathroom. But I wouldn't tell you if I was.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Oh, okay. And it's like an office space in my apartment building. Okay. So they've let you come home for a couple days each time. I mean, you've been home in Houston a lot or not at all? What's going on with that? No, hardly at all. I mean, it's just like. like if I need to do laundry or get some things. But, you know, we also have typically have player availability the day before the game. So even though there's multiple days between certain games, you know, you still typically have to be in this city to be ready. Okay. So for the last month, you have been in Oklahoma City a bunch.
Starting point is 01:31:21 You have been in Minneapolis. You have been in Indianapolis. How many days have been in Houston in the last six weeks? Oh, God. maybe four or five. Who's checking your mail? Nobody. So you've come home.
Starting point is 01:31:39 You have a stack of mail in your bedroom in your apartment right now. Bill's got to get paid. Dry cleaning's got to get dried. I mean, the life of a national broadcaster now. My name's son. I know. I know. Well, the reason we were calling you first is because I was talking about the fact that you've been probably
Starting point is 01:32:00 gone a lot of the time and that we, We knocked off a restaurant on our Oklahoma City travel tour this year. We said we're not going to go to, what's the place, Ross? Kobe Keith. Yeah, because the food was terrible. So, I mean, if you're in New York, L.A., Chicago, Miami, there's plenty of place to go. No disrespect to your hometown of Indianapolis. It's a great city.
Starting point is 01:32:22 You know much I love Indianapolis. But are you kind of running into the same restaurants over and over as you go to these cities? No. I mean, Indiana. Well, Oklahoma City, yes. Indianapolis has actually a serving the size of city it is. It has a good food scene. And it's because they built it to be a convention city.
Starting point is 01:32:39 So between Mass Ave and Broad Ripple and different areas, they actually do have some good restaurants. But Oklahoma City, it is a struggle. I feel like I've gone to, they have a steakhouse there called Mahogany. And I feel like I've eaten their, at this point, probably 10 times. That's not an exaggeration. So it's definitely difficult. You can hit the Chili's or the TGI Fridays or something.
Starting point is 01:33:05 I'm not opposed to a good TGI Friday. I am not too good for that. You know, at Chili's, they got the chips, burger, and drink for like $11. I mean, that's not a bad deal. Here's what I want the listeners to know. The only time I've gotten mad, I've gotten mad at now twice regarding food. That's it? The first time was when he wanted to go to the cheesecake factory when we were in L.O.
Starting point is 01:33:29 God, I hate you. And I said, look, I like the cheesecake factors. But when we're in Los Angeles and we're nice enough to let us stay on the day of drive, we are not going to the cheesecake factory. The second time I got mad at night because I had, I don't want to put your friend out there. But there's a certain restaurant in certain city that I didn't like the first time. Yeah. We were told it would be better the second time.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Yeah, it was bad. And then I got a little food poisoning. Oh, my God. Yeah. I accept those. Wow. Vanessa, of all of Matt's weird food proclivities, which one offends you the most?
Starting point is 01:34:08 I don't offend her with my food choices. That's ridiculous. No. No, Codickeman is actually the one that he's true. He's the worst. Fred won't eat anything white. So he won't eat ranch. He won't eat white cheeses.
Starting point is 01:34:24 You know what? He won't like it. It's very odd. Yeah. So he'll have cheddar, but he won't have white cheddar? Correct. Well, it's like, tell Vanessa, let's get him on the phone. We go to eat and we say, I'll have a steak, I'll have it medium, I'll have a salad, baked potato.
Starting point is 01:34:40 He runs through, well, what does it have on it? Yeah. And then what things are you got to take off? And it's like the ordering takes 25 minutes. Why didn't he do his research beforehand to do you guys a favor? It's terrible. It's just awful. Okay, so let's do a couple more things here.
Starting point is 01:34:55 You've been bouncing back and forth. Who is the most famous person you've met during this little NBA finals run of yours? Oh, most famous person. That's a good question. I mean, obviously a lot of the, you know, NBA great like Oscar Robertson and, you know, Reggie Miller and a lot of, I mean, I already met Reggie, but a lot of the NBA greats are around. So that's been Rick Fox on whose dreams had my guests, and we had, shack and so yeah it's been fun so are you tired of traveling are you okay because this i mean you're
Starting point is 01:35:33 going to be first of all game sevens are awesome so you're going to be in the best place to hang out but are you getting a little fatigued or you're hanging in there all right you're in question right so i don't know that my body uh like to traveling as much as uh i enjoy it but you know overall it's been good looks we're really spoiled when we travel with the rapids because we fly um you know, private, and we fly on that beautiful 767 rocket ship. So it is a little bit of an adjustment. And the other thing is there aren't direct flights between Oklahoma City and Indianapolis. Like, they're pretty much none.
Starting point is 01:36:10 So, yeah, the travel has definitely been a little bit of a challenge, but it's been super fun. Well, congratulations. I'm glad you're home. I'll let you get back to your cleaning of the clothes. When are you leaving tomorrow or are you leaving tonight? Leaving tomorrow. All right. And the haunted hotel's been okay?
Starting point is 01:36:28 Are any any issues there? Although I was, they did have me on the haunted floor. The 10th floor is the one that's haunted and allegedly. And I didn't like that. They had some creepy pictures in the room. So maybe they're just playing it up. But yeah, I mean, I wasn't a fan. No, no, that's terrible.
Starting point is 01:36:50 That's terrible. All right. Hey, we're very happy for you. Congratulations to all your success. You're killing it on ESPN radio and now doing the ESPN. YouTube page. Watch that again. Amon Shepard's, it's been fun working with him, I'm assuming? Yeah, it's been great. He's been awesome. He's been a really great teammate. And the traction you guys got was when Shams had a little bit of a facial expression
Starting point is 01:37:12 yesterday. Well, that was kind of funny. Yeah, I mean, we brought him on to talk about, we brought Shams on to talk about the Knicks coaching search to Kevin Durant, you know, saga and everything that's been. And then I think there was maybe one, one other, oh yeah, we did some Bay Trade. And so we brought him on and, um, Sean, he didn't know which camera to look at. So he was like trying to figure out what camera to look at.
Starting point is 01:37:38 And then people like click that and thought that he was trying to send signals with his body language saying that Kevin Durrett was going to the spurs. And so Sham had to hop on the promocacy show. Yeah. Imagine that Vanessa. Somebody taking something on social media and, and misconstruiting it for something else. It's a stunner.
Starting point is 01:37:56 That's a terrible place. All right, young lady, be careful going up there, and we'll talk with you when you get back to town. And again, congratulations on your success. We'll talk to you soon. Oh, thanks, guys. You got it. Vanessa Richardson, the star of ESPN on the YouTube page and on ESPN radio and our space city and all that stuff. I just hope she remembers us when she hits the big time. Well, I was thinking about the people that I've worked with my life, one of them being Andre Weir does now college football and the Texans. I don't like this list.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Who also worked with us gone on the prominence? Because I'm still sitting here. Who else? Lugan Bill did a degree in football with me. Now he does ESPN college football. Dan Patrick, his lieutenant governor, was? Actually, he got me in the business.
Starting point is 01:38:34 He's the lieutenant governor of our state. Okay. Still? Yeah, still. He's not the one under. Who's the one that got indicted? It's Ken Paxton or was it him? Now, one Dan Patrick.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Okay. Who else have I worked with? It's gone on a bigger and better fame. We'll figure it out. Vanessa Richardson. Vanessa's clearly doing well for herself. Yeah. Not that way, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:56 I think of some other people Some of the people I've worked with and radio have gone on to other radio jobs It's done quite well for themselves And you've made the executive decision To stay here with me And that's for that I appreciate you Let me see what the jobs we're looking like
Starting point is 01:39:10 You're doing you're not going anywhere Play by play in Jefferson Iowa It's open I've never been to Jefferson Iowa Me either Doing Jefferson was it 3A high school football I guess so I don't think the pay is going to
Starting point is 01:39:26 be great. Probably not. All right. 1232. We've got the Fantasy 5 draft of Best SummerSogs coming up at 120. We've already drafted, and I think my list is superior. That comes to zero surprise. But I think your list is good.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Are you honest about that? I don't have any issue with any pick you made. Well, that's the first time for that. That's not true. As the judge, I think these are pretty light. This is a good battle. Okay, do not, by the way, you will not. Is he judging this time? You want a judge or no? He judged last time and he chose you.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Yeah, I don't have to judge. Okay. The college is going to do it. You're going to be judge number four this week. Judge number four. Judge number four. What's a big swing judge? He's a swinger.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He said it not me. It's throwing that out there. 713-212-5-7-90. If you want to chime in on anything goes Friday, 7-13-212-5-79. Would Boogie Cousins lie about the Oklahoma? I mean, the Phoenix Sun's fighting?
Starting point is 01:40:29 Well, he could have heard that from somebody. Yeah, look, you hear something. Oh, man, do you hear there's a fistfight? You can hear from somebody who heard from somebody. And there was just arguments. But, man, Katie went right to it. He's like, what are you talking about? Yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:40:42 All right, let's talk about risehealth.com. This song, by the way, did not make our fantasy five. It was on my list. It's a great summertime song. It's a ditty. Not a, like, we can't even say ditty. more can we why not
Starting point is 01:40:59 oh because of ditty pee yeah this is my favorite uh mungo jerry song matt
Starting point is 01:41:07 what's your second favorite mungo jerry song oh that's there's so many choices I'm gonna go with uh darlin I need you
Starting point is 01:41:16 more than ever hmm that was a sleeper hit man so sleepy that was a this a worldwide number one
Starting point is 01:41:27 Hit number three in U.S. I was just pulling it up. Number one in Germany, Ireland, Belgium, New Zealand, across the planet, basically. Good for him. What year? 1970. And he never had another U.S. top 40 hit. One hit wonder, Mungo Jerry. Are there bands that you've, other songs you've heard that you're surprised they've only had one hit?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Does that make any sense to you? I was surprised to just read Mungo Jerry. Only had one hit. Can you get another one Mungo? Can I give you a band? that's from Texas that I think I'm stunned. They only had one hit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Breakfast at Tiffany's. Who sings that? Deep Blue something? You don't even know who they are. You can't be that surprised. That song is really clever and interesting and sung well. They're from Texas? Yeah, I think they went to Sammy Houston, I think.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Oh, really? Don't hold me to that. Craig. Craig, shut up. Craig always gives them credit for being same Houston guys. Deep blue something yet. From origin of Denton, Texas. Okay, so from Denton. I knew they were from...
Starting point is 01:42:37 No, this says North Texas. You know what? That's right. He is such a fraud. Because I thought they were North Texas guys and he's telling everybody in the mother their same Houston guys. Well, he's wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that's your peeps. Yeah, well, yeah, for a while they were. In Denton. Denton's good. You'd like that. No, I don't think I would. You don't even know Denton.
Starting point is 01:42:59 It's a college town in North Texas. Okay. Not small. Not tiny got a mall. What's the population of denters? That's good. Exactly. It's got a bad bobscher.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Would they call the string of bars in Denton, Texas? They just called the strip. So the movie Necessary Roughness was filmed there. And I met Kathy Ireland. Okay. Back on the day when she was a supermodel. Really? And she was in a movie.
Starting point is 01:43:24 She was awesome, very nice. And she called security on you. And then we went to bed box. one time. Bed Bobster. And Sinbad was sitting two tables over from us. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:33 The Sinbad. Yeah. Alive or dead? Don't even say it. No, I'm asking you. He's alive. Not doing well, but he's alive. Yeah, I heard he had strokes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. 713-212-5-790. Let's talk to Biscuit of the Matt Thomas show at 1242. Two Biscuit, what do you got today? Cougar, Matt. Yes, sir. Man, first of all, man, don't try to give our home girl away, man.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Say your hometown is Nattown. She's a hosian, man. Terahode Indiana, baby. I know. When I find us. Yeah. And I'm glad to see she's doing a well job. I thought I was checking one of my cousin.
Starting point is 01:44:21 He kind of did some checking on it. I was trying to see, I don't know if you, on the, on the Cavaliers, they have a guard that played for Wichita State. Craig Porter Jr. And he's from, he went the same high school as Vanessa, but I think there's a, a four or five year gap in between them.
Starting point is 01:44:39 But anyway, man, getting to the Pacers. Man, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, and Ross, you can chime in on this. I'm telling you, if you got Shay and Williams, right? And then you got, on the Pacer,
Starting point is 01:44:55 you got Halliburton and Seacom. If you take those four off the page and then compare both teams, Indiana has the better team. The problem is, can Seacom and Halliburton play close enough to Shea and Williams where other guys can make the difference? If they, within 15 points, I think the other guys on the Pacers can make the difference. And it don't even matter. It could be one night it could be OB, one night it could be, um, one night it could be, uh, what's the Matherin? They got so many different guys that, you know, none of them are countered upon.
Starting point is 01:45:36 They just need one or two of them to come through. And it's going to be interesting in the game seven. But the reason I called in, Matt, is, and I'm asking you in Ross, looking at the Pacers, does that give you pause if you're the Rockets about chasing a superstar? Because to me, the Pacers don't have a superstar. They just have a good team with a bunch of decent guys. do you think the rocket should think looked hard about making this trade for
Starting point is 01:46:01 KD or whoever and breaking up the young nucleus I don't think they're looking at this series going we need to make a decision one way or the other I think they're looking at this as this is Oklahoma City this is a league with Denver in the West is a league with
Starting point is 01:46:15 who else Lakers, Timberwolves Spurs are up and coming it's a league that's got four or five teams in the Western Conference to claim the Western Conference championship next year. And we got to, and the rockets are thinking, is this move, could this move be the difference on
Starting point is 01:46:31 us being who we are at 52 wins or maybe being better? And I think that's the decision. Now, they could just stay with the corn and that'd be fine with me as well. And they could go to 55, 56 wins and maybe be a top three seed and maybe be a team that knocks off opponents. But that's, those are internal
Starting point is 01:46:47 conversations. But they're not, they're not looking at Indiana going well. Andrew Nemhart is playing well. We can't, we don't need to go get Kevin Durant. No, I'm, my, my, what I'm saying, mad as though if you just stay young instead of trying to chase a superstar and let the young guys grow
Starting point is 01:47:01 and maybe that's the best way to go long term because you mentioned the Lakers they're going to kind of fall off some of the other teams are up and age you know what I mean their rockets already with a second seed they can't do nothing but get better in my opinion
Starting point is 01:47:19 so I mean I might stay the course that's all I'm saying Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's going to be made. Yeah, I don't think and thank you, Biscuit for the phone call. There's probably people in the Rockets camp that are in your corner or some of the people in the corner, they're probably saying we need to go. I mean, they're obviously think that Kevin Durant can help because they're still involved in the contract negotiations.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Yeah, the trade, yeah, trade negotiations. And, yeah, you can say, and it will be true that NBA players don't peak at 23 and 22, which is what Jalen Green and Alper and Shingun are. And there can be room for, and all. Both of those guys have grown in different ways in their career and gotten better. The question is not can the rockets get better, which they will, it's can the rockets be better than those other teams in the Western Conference? They were out in the first round.
Starting point is 01:48:13 I know it was a great season. They were number two seed and all that stuff. They were out in the first round. And one thing we always forget about is that we assume this isn't any sport, that if our players are getting better, that other teams' players are not getting better, why can't Anthony Edwards get better? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Why can't Luca Donchich drop a few pounds? And that remains to be seen if it's going to happen. But why can't he be better working with LeBron in a full training camp? And that's why, again, these are all things that are being mulled over right now. Luca Donchish is what? 25 or 6? Yeah. Shea Gildes-Alexander's 26?
Starting point is 01:48:49 There's no reason why those guys can't be better. Yeah, it's hard out there. If you want to say, hey, you know what, we're going to bank on our guys growing internally. Can they overcome everyone else in the West? Or you can just say, hey, we're fine being a two-seed, making it a couple deep rounds deep, and it's not a championship or bust process for us. And that's okay too, actually. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Because we do get obsessed with rings, rings, rings, and championship or bust. And chasing is difficult, especially when you, if you think that the guy you're chasing is not in his prime. You want to chase? If you want to go chase Janice in his prime, then that's a different conversation. Phoenix Suns chased Bradley Beal and Kevin Durant and they were on the outside looking in the playoffs. The Brooklyn Nets traded for Kevin Durant and they had Durant Irving and they traded for James Hardin and where are they right now. So yeah, we can point all around the NBA for guys and teams that pushed and swung for the fences and missed. 1248 Sports Talk 790 7-13-212-5-790.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Fantasy 5, we'll need judges coming up at 120. This is a jam. Rest in peace to Sly Stone. I'm surprised neither one of us chose this. I put this more on myself. It was on my list. I mean, I like my list. You've got a good list, Matt.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Yeah. More my flavor of songs, per se. So you'll figure that out when we have the Fantasy 5. We've got Fantasy 5 coming up at 120 today. And we'll need five judges. Actually, we may need six because we do best of seven. It's first of four to wins. If we go to a game seven.
Starting point is 01:50:32 We go to a game seven. And Jonathan is the fourth vote. And he voted for me in the last fantasy five. My guess is he will vote for you with this go around because he feels like he needs to be fair. No, it's because my list is better. He needs to be fair and balanced. Because my list is better. Yeah, okay, whatever.
Starting point is 01:50:47 All right, 1254 on sports talk seven and that'll be coming up. You don't be playing psychological games with Jonathan. I'm not playing psychological. It's all about the music, man. Vote with your heart. Vote with your heart, Jonathan. It's all about the music. It's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:50:58 All right, real quick. What else we got going on here? We'll get to the Astros top of the hour because I want to give them a little more room. We mentioned the NBA, Kevin Durant, anything else going on? Astros in Anaheim. Yeah, with you say Kikuchi going there. Kukuchi having a good season, by the way. He's two and six, but he's got a 3.05 earned run average,
Starting point is 01:51:21 although the whip is pretty high at 1.48. You know, it's funny. We've talked about how maybe we worry about NBA TV ratings too much. I'm looking at the sixth story on the ESPN. Oh, I don't think the 30-point blowout was rated well, probably. Stanley Cup rating has dropped lower than four nations. You know, they did a four nations like a mid-season event that did very, very well. What?
Starting point is 01:51:45 Yeah. The final of your sport is lower rated than an exhibition tournament? That's pretty crazy. average of 2.5 million viewers watched the NBA or the NHL's Stanley Cup Final on T&T. That was game 6. They had a
Starting point is 01:52:04 4.17 million watch on ABC last year. A headline from awful announcing. Lakers $10 billion value proves there's nothing to worry about with NBA ratings. I would tend to agree with that. If the league was dying and the ratings were bad and nobody cared,
Starting point is 01:52:20 Lakers wouldn't be worth $10 billion. dollars. Yeah, it was interesting talking about Brian Winhorst here for a minute when he was asked about what he thought about the $10 billion deal. What's an indication of it? He says two things. One, the Lakers have been so old school that they're going to the new ownership who is part owner and the owners of the Dodgers is going to kind of revolutionize how the
Starting point is 01:52:44 Lakers do their business, whatever that is. But it sounds like they won't get old school in what sense? Just like, ah. Marketing, tickets. advertisements, branding, all that guys. They're going to just put a fresh coat of paint on there. And whatever that is, I'm presuming it's the things I just said. But the second thing they said is the NBA owners now know that you can get this kind of money for an NHO, for a team.
Starting point is 01:53:10 They're going to expand the NBA by two teams. Expansion has been discussed. And we saw, what was it, a few months ago, the Rockets value valued at $6 billion. when Tillman bought them for $2 billion, what was that? In 17 or where? We were in Dallas. Yeah, about 17, somewhere in that range. Stone in the heyday of James Harning Company.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Eight years tripled in value from $2 billion to $4 billion. And I remember when it sold for $2 billion. I was like, oh my gosh, $2 billion. So with this money, this $10 billion, there's going to be two teams that probably are going to get, two cities are going to get NBA teams because they're going to, they're not saying that each team is going to be sold for $10 billion to get in. but there's obviously some people out there that want to get involved in the NBA. Seattle and Las Vegas?
Starting point is 01:53:56 Those would be the heavy favorites. I would say Plan C would be involving Mexico City. A distant plan D would be maybe putting a team in London. I don't think so. But I think it comes down to Seattle. Heavy favorite, Las Vegas, heavy favorite Mexico City in the mix and probably Kansas City. Can they get the Sonics name back in all the history? I believe it would be part of it.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Kind of like what happened with the Browns. I would be stunned that the new team wouldn't be called the Supersonics. And you know what it'll help that out too? Is if the Thunder win this championship. Maybe like, ah, we got our own history. Boy, our buddy Softie, who does radio in Seattle, they are so, they have such hatred for the Thunder. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:54:36 You can't, his Twitter account is full of go Pacers, win by 30, crush them. We all hate watch stuff. That's like one of the all-time hate watches. Well, I'll tell you this. When the Titans win the Super Bowl, I did the exact same thing. I was saying go Rams a whole way. I was rooting for him, actually. I mean, but I like Steve McNair.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I liked Eddie George. Yeah, I like Frank Whitechek. I like the players. That was my team wearing a different uniform in a different city and a different name. I totally understand that. So I'm usually we crack on softy variety of things and that's one of the things I would not do that because I know exactly what he's going through. All right, let's get to the final hour of the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Starting point is 01:55:14 It isn't anything goes Friday, which means you get to talk about anything you want, whether it be the Astros performance against the A's as they split the series. I have a three-game set with Anaheim. We're also going to go back to this automatic ball strike situation. There was a tweet that I want to give you a little, and I wish I could do it. But, you know, we'll do it.
Starting point is 01:55:32 We'll play the audio of it. Because this is Dodgers TV that just lost their mind over a non-strike call. Do that. Final hour, Matt Thomas Show at Ross, 20 minutes from now. It's a fantasy five here on 790. All right, one hour left to go.
Starting point is 01:55:45 It is the Matt Thomas Show at Ross. The Astros will begin a, three-game series with the Anaheimers tonight. We'll have the on-deck show for you at 7.30. First pitch will be at 838. Which means because it's pre-9 o'clock, I'll be hosting the 10th inning show.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Thank you, Matt. We appreciate you putting in the time. Real quick, before we get to this audio, I want to play, and we'll get some Astros conversation. You know what? They need, they should put you on the Hall of Honor at Diken Park in the press box. You can nominate me. I can't. Yeah. You'll get an email says, please submit your nominations. Does it cost anything? No, I'm busy.
Starting point is 01:56:21 What does the cost and how busy you are, have to do anything to do with each other? I got stuff to do. Okay. I mean, you don't have to. That's fine. But you should, you should be nominated at least. Okay. I mean, I don't think I'm going to get in, but it's, um, yeah, it's fine. All right, let me, uh, let me get to, do you know that there's a Happy Gilmore two coming out? Yes, I saw the trailer. I saw the first trailer. I didn't see the extended trailer. First trailer was very underwhelming. And Happy Gilmore is one of my favorite movies of all. time. Movies I've seen most like, you know, when you're a kid in the VHS
Starting point is 01:56:55 and you watch it like 50 times, Friday's one, Happy Gilmore's two. So it's a movie, I've seen the Happy Gilmore a million times. I'm all for reboots and I'm all for sequels. I don't mind them. I hate them. In fact, it brings me back to yesteryear and makes me think of the great movies before. Yeah, they're usually tight, yeah, they're tapping into nostalgia, which we all love
Starting point is 01:57:15 nostalgia, but it's terrible. It feels like we've had the second versions of these movies that have been Like coming to America was an amazing movie with Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall. Love coming to America. Apparently coming to America, the number two, didn't do so well. I didn't even watch it. Did you watch it?
Starting point is 01:57:33 I didn't even watch it. Okay, well. And there have been some other ones, too. I'm feeling we're going to be a little bit underwhelmed with this one. I think so, too. Because what do you do with Happy Gilmore One that you could possibly shake things up in Happy Gilmore, too? I never even saw Zoolander, too. Never did. I liked Zoolander. I saw Dumb and Dumber 2. It was not good.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Oh, that's another good example. Dumb and number two didn't work out. Now, I'm talking, there have been a lot of sequels to movies that have been relatively quick after the first one was made. You're talking about the mid-90s for Gilmore? And the second one is now in 2025. I mean, you, what do you, it would be like, what's a great movie of the 1990s? Did you watch the Beverly Hills comic remake? No, no sequel? No.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Me either. The first and second ones were good enough for me three and four and now five or whatever is terrible. It'd be like a risky business too.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Yeah. I mean, I saw Joe Dirt too was horrible. I turned it off. I never finished. Hey, hey now. Joe Dirt one sucks. Oh Christ.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Terrible. Oh, that's an all timer. My point is that if you're going to do a sequel that's 30 years past the first one, you better be really good with it. Bad Santa 2 was, I thought was underrated.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I thought it was pretty funny. Bad Santa 1, of course, is an all-timer. Like, I didn't mind Airplane 2. It wasn't nearly as good as Airplane 1, but it followed up relatively quickly after airplane. You watched the new vacation, right? I didn't. I like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:12 But I could see how people, I mean, but it was definitely, there was only a cameo of Chevy Chase and Beverly DeAngel on it. It was primarily Christian Applegate and her. There's a new Austin Powers coming out. Is this real? I just picked up a list of like
Starting point is 01:59:25 of sequel, late sequels. Okay. All right. So let me get back. I just, I don't know if I'm going to be overly excited to run to go see Happy Gilmore 2. Zoolander 2 has a 4.7 out of 10 rating.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Oops. A 9 dB. All right. So last night, the Yankees are, the Dodgers are playing a baseball game. And there's a pitcher for the Dodgers that's about to throw an immaculate inning. And here's how pitch number nine went down. Here's the O2.
Starting point is 01:59:59 It is. Oh no! Marvin Hudson cost him an immaculate inning. I mean, that's not even close. That is... Wow. Marvin. I mean, that wasn't even borderline or anything.
Starting point is 02:00:23 I mean, that was borderline middle, middle. Can we get ABS on Lone for the night from AAA? Goodness. Well, that's a bummer. Yeah. He's up striking out the side, but a much more routine version of it. Yeah, Yamamoto was the pitcher for the Dodgers. And the video is on my Twitter account, if you want to go check it out.
Starting point is 02:00:54 The strike would have been the strike nine. Upper half of the zone, but in the zone, 100% the entire baseball was in the zone, Ross. Yes. It was, again, just one pitch and people make mistakes, but my God, was it a butcher of a call? It shouldn't have been made at the major league level. It's ridiculous as this continues to happen. And I try not to, I really, I really try, Matt, not to always complain about umpires. That's why I was literally bringing this up, but I was like, this thing, it wasn't like a scosh of it, would hit the zone.
Starting point is 02:01:33 It was up or half, it was right, the letters, but it was the strike. Every metric, every replay, the box, the replay, the zone, the little system they use, strike, strike, strike. It is three times as rare as a no hitter. There's been over 300 no hitters. There's only been 118 immaculate innings in baseball history. Now, look, it's not going to necessarily, you know, he's not going to get an award for it or whatever. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:02:14 But it's ridiculous. And then the strike zone last night for the Astros and the A's in Sacramento was ridiculous as well. There was a time where Colton Gordon issued a walk. Two of the balls were well within the strike zone.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Yeah, yeah. It still blows my mind. We have the technology. Then they're going to go to this ridiculous Band-aid with the challenge system. For what? For what? for what? They're just, and again, I continue to give you excuses
Starting point is 02:02:46 because you don't want to hear them. I know. I think they're probably, human element, one, I know you get mad at me for saying that. And number two, I think they're worried about time. That's what I just tweet.
Starting point is 02:02:55 How much more time is it going to take? Is it going to be, I mean, I'm asking, I'm asking, because I don't know. Seconds, milliseconds?
Starting point is 02:03:04 Is it going to add five minutes to every game? More? The challenge system is going to add time too? Yeah. But human element? Everything, they're worried about timing and everything because I've been the leader of, let's add five seconds to the pitch clock and no one's even talking about that. I don't want to do that. They want to keep me out. Human element, again, is a euphemism for bad calls. I want human element in my calls. That means you want bad calls. That's what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:03:27 That one was terrible. Take a look at it. Jay is on 7.9-8-11. Hi, Jay. Hey, Matt. Hey, you know, seeing the Kukuchi pitch tonight is going to make it harder for you to get over cheeks? I think it'll help. Can I may have 60 seconds here. You folks just aren't as funny as we are. And I know that you're trying to call and go, I got to get a joke in. I'm not going to ban you from the show or erase your call.
Starting point is 02:04:13 I just want you to know you're never going to be as funny as I am. And I'm not a yuckster. I think I got some funny lines. I'm witty. I'm not a joke teller. But nor neither. are any of you? How many times in the history of this show, Ross,
Starting point is 02:04:29 have we said that call we've had is legitimately funny? There are some of you that are really funny. It's, uh, but it's, we've had two people today try their one-liners on us, and they both are god-awful. One out of very easy. And you're embarrassing yourself.
Starting point is 02:04:43 20? I mean, it's just, I've been doing this for 30 years. I've had maybe 10 people that have called this show that have been legitimately funny people. and if you're one of the 10 and the 30 years I've been doing this, I applaud you. But most of you aren't. You can keep trying.
Starting point is 02:05:04 And because we're affable and we take phone calls, we're hanging about a thousand on these bad boys. At least we talk to y'all. But that was just, God, you just, I think people driving around are going, man, that guy is in our streets. that guy is taking our trash out. That guy is on our streets and freeways. Just remember something very clearly.
Starting point is 02:05:32 I'm going to be funnier than you are just about every single time. All right, we need judges. The Fantasy 5, Songs of Summer. Songs of Summer. If you would like to be a judge in our Fantasy 5, we'll take you and welcome you next. Jonathan is judge number four. We need six of you to be the rest of you on the judges.
Starting point is 02:05:56 713-212-5-790. Here we go with the Fantasy Five. It's the songs this summer. Any song related to summertime. And we've all deemed to be these 10 songs to be summer applicable, correct? We've no debates on any of these? I don't think so. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:14 I won the last Fantasy Five, so I got the choice of going first or giving the first selection to Ross. And again, there are so many great summer songs. I just wanted to pick one to make sure it was on my list. I went to two different surveys on the interwebs, and that doesn't mean it's necessarily the best, but the two that I went to had this song number one. Wow. You must have used a different source.
Starting point is 02:06:39 I didn't see this one anywhere. But I think it's a good pick. And it is my all-time favorite band. It is The Beatles, and it's here comes the sun. It's a good pick. Probably. George Harrison's Oh, something is really good
Starting point is 02:06:57 Maybe hits his second best song. What about a while my guitar gently weeps? That's a great one too. This reminds me of Beatles' love that we saw at the Mirage. May the Mirage rest in peace. Yes. Great show.
Starting point is 02:07:11 All right, so I went with, Here Comes a sign with my first selection. And you have the next too. That's a good pick. All right, Matt, I went next. Now, this doesn't really have summer or heat in the name, but you cleared it.
Starting point is 02:07:22 I didn't. So I went with it. This feels like a good summary song that you can belt out in karaoke, put it on the jukebox, and everybody sings along talking about sitting on the duck of the bay. Great song. Otis Redding, may he rest? Gone too soon? At the age of 26.
Starting point is 02:07:49 This is really one of my favorite songs of all time. It is true. the season, Matt. Watching the ships rolling. All right, we'll keep it going. I went with another summertime classic.
Starting point is 02:08:00 Now, I didn't think you would draft this one, but I wanted to make sure I snapped it up because this is also one of my old-time favorites. Reminds me of being a kid. Reminds me of the 90s. Reminds me of the summertime with DJ Jazzy Jeff
Starting point is 02:08:12 and the Fresh Prince with summertime. Ah. You're making a face, Matt. This was on my list. It was further down my list, but it was on the list. Okay. This feels like you're in a backyard having a picnic with your relatives. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:37 You put this on at the summer barbecue. For sure, Matt. And you're next up. All right, next two. I'm going to go back to the late 60s for a band called a Lovin' Spoonful. This song feels like you're getting in your car. You're going to head down. Now, if we lived in California, we'd be on the PCH with this song.
Starting point is 02:08:57 Okay. We're not in the Texas. We're on I, 45 headed at Galveston. We're going to play summer in the city. Like 8 o'clock at night, it's dusk. It's very aggressive and angry. And you're in a convertible. I mean, it's a good song.
Starting point is 02:09:24 It's been in a couple of movies. Yeah. All right. It's not my favorite. Summer in the city. Next, I'm going back to the Beatles. As you know, I probably would. Yes.
Starting point is 02:09:37 And when the sun is out, it makes it a good day sunshine. This is such a jam too. Don't you get all scrawler for me. See, I'm trying to be nice today. Light, airy, fun. People love this song. Classic, late 60s Beatles. Got a nice ballad to it.
Starting point is 02:10:08 And that's my third pick. It's all right. Okay, now it's my turn. Of course, we do the snake draft. Two for you, Matt. Two for me. I will start with another summer classic. with Brian Adams
Starting point is 02:10:21 And the summer, of course, of 69. Speaking of karaoke classics. Have you ever sang this in karaoke? You haven't? I've heard it. I've never sang it myself. There's a little too up in the register for me, Matt. Well, I can't sing much of anything, but...
Starting point is 02:10:40 Yeah, what is your... I don't even know what your go-to is. I don't know. I do Sinatra, a little my way. And really start singing it like this. but Brian Adams, Summer of 69, a summer classic song. And let's move on as I will go with a song that also reminds me of my childhood, reminds me of the good old days. I'm talking about the heat is on with Clint Frye from Beverly Hills Cop in 1984.
Starting point is 02:11:16 This will always remind me of Eddie Murphy and that movie and a great summer song. I'm just bothered by the fact that these guys had hits without their Eagles' counterparts. Why not? That means they're all very talented in their own right. Like the Beatles. They all had hits. I know. I know.
Starting point is 02:11:35 And there's Ringo. I mean, he had some hits. I mean, he had some hits than you want to say. No, we'll talk about an octopus is gone. Don't bring that stupid ass song up. Ringo's terrible songwriter. I'm sorry. The other three, very good.
Starting point is 02:11:46 Okay. I have two songs left. Okay. I think the number one definitive baseball song is Centerfield. by John Fogarty? Mm-hmm. I think this is the second one. The Boys of Summer.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Speaking of the Eagles group. Yeah. A little Don Henley for you here. I'll give you a little behind the scenes, folks. I was deciding between this song and The Heat is On by Glenn Fry. Both Eagles members. I went with the heat is on.
Starting point is 02:12:23 It's sentimental for me. I love Beverly Hills Cop as a kid, but this is a good one. I think I hear this song and makes you want to go out and play them pick up baseball with your buddies, isn't it? Sure. Centerfield definitely does that.
Starting point is 02:12:36 All right. And lastly, we've said, we've argued about how great the beach boys were. And I said they're the second best band of the 60s. You could argue maybe Rolling Stones, the second best. Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, I'd put a bit above the Beach Boys. Okay, whatever, but it's American band, American band. How about the best American band of the 60s? That makes perfect sense. and you want to find the definitive summer song from them.
Starting point is 02:13:09 This makes you want to go get a surfboard and hang 10 at the beach. Okay. A little good vibrations. This is a really good Beach Boys song too. I think I would have went to California Girls if I was going Beach Boys. I thought you were going to do that. This is depressing.
Starting point is 02:13:27 I'm not a big California girls fan. Oh, really? Yeah. This song to me is. Or surfing USA summer? That's surfing, going to say it's cheesy. Well, yeah, and they ripped it off with Chuck Berry as well. This is just good
Starting point is 02:13:38 songwriting right here. This is a knee-slopper, as the kids would say. A toe-tapper? A banger. Yeah, okay. All right. I mean, so that's my five. Yes. And I have one more, Matt.
Starting point is 02:13:58 There was a number of different directions. Could have gone. A lot of stuff left on the list. I can't believe I left summertime by Sam Cook-off. But I went with Cool and the gang, because Matt, here in Houston, Texas, it is too hot. Now, you know how I feel about Kuhnliang. You know, this is a jam. This is a jam.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Hmm. This is just summer to me. No, this is too hot. This might be summer romance to me. Well, that's fine. It works, too. This doesn't do with temperature. It's about what's going on in the bedroom.
Starting point is 02:14:29 It's getting too hot. Yeah, this is another to do. You know, it doesn't do with the weather. Hmm. This is about what's... Wait a minute, I made a ruling on this. Oh, plus. Please.
Starting point is 02:14:40 No, it's too late. We drafted two hours ago. Oh, wait, okay. Now that I'm saying, this is too hot. It's too hot. It's too got to run for shade. It's too hot for shelter. It's up to the people, man. It is up to the people.
Starting point is 02:14:52 No, it's too hot for shelter. We got to run for shelter. We got to run for shade. It's too hot. It's too hot in the bedroom. Oh, my God. Ridiculous. Go ahead and play the chorus.
Starting point is 02:15:02 This is a good song. Oh, it's too hot. Yeah, it's too. You got to run for shelter because you're, you're just, You got to run for shade from what, Matt? What are you running from the shade from? From the lust and the passion of the bedroom. From the heat of the sun because it's too hot in the summer.
Starting point is 02:15:21 Okay. You're trying to strike this because you know it's a great pick. That's a good song, but I don't know if it's applicable to summertime. I can't with the heat today. This is a hard. This is hard. All right, here we go. Ross has sitting on the dock of the bay, summertime, summer of 69.
Starting point is 02:15:36 The heat is on and it's too hot. I have, here comes the sun, summer in the city, good day sunshine, the boys of summer, and good vibrations. We'll get the votes in next. 128 on Sports Talk 790. There is a song on my list. Not on my list that I would have gone with, but I thought it was so 1974
Starting point is 02:15:58 that I thought it would have been two. Summer Breeze by Seals and Croft would have been something I would have gone with. Does that song ring a bell to you? Yeah, I remember it. Nick, so Nick, I appreciate the email, but I would have thought it would have been a little too minutia.
Starting point is 02:16:14 Heat wave, Martha and the Vandellas? Ooh, heat waves a good one. It was on my list. A lot of good summer songs. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so let's go. Let's figure out what you guys want to do there.
Starting point is 02:16:27 Texas Sun by Leon Bridges is a good one from Kathy. Maybe I could have drafted that. All right. Ross has sitting on the dock of the bay. Summertime, summer 69, heat is on, and it's too hot. I have. Here comes the sun, summer in the city. Good day, sunshine.
Starting point is 02:16:39 The boys of summer and good vibrations. Let's find out who wins the Fantasy 5. Vote number one belongs to Miguel. Miguel, who wins a fantasy 5, me or Ross? Ross, hands down. Go to hell. All right, let's go. Thank you, Miguel.
Starting point is 02:16:52 Have a great weekend. That's one. Appreciate you. That's one. Michael on 790, Michael, who wins a fantasy five, me or Ross? Ross in a landslide. Okay, shut up. Why do you hang up on him?
Starting point is 02:17:04 Because he's going to say something to be a lot of the Beatles. What? If he was going to say something bad about somebody that I picked, you would have let him talk. That's accurate. Man, you were such a child. Greg on 790, Greg, who wins a fantasy 5, me or Ross? Got to go with Ross. All right.
Starting point is 02:17:23 3-0. Hope you don't lose your job this weekend. I hope you have a great weekend. Was it Greg? 3-0 leads have been blown in this in Fantasy 5 before. It has happened, Matt. All right, vote number four. Jonathan, what do you got?
Starting point is 02:17:37 Otis Redding is one of my favorite. Ross won that by the last side. Just short, man. I'm sorry. That's fine. You can't go two Beatles. You can't do that. I love the Beatles.
Starting point is 02:17:45 Vince, who wins a fantasy 5? Me or Ross? I say Ross and a squeaker. I can't believe one of you guys didn't have the Slystone song on you. Yes, Slystone was on my list. Yeah, I agree. But that's FIvo? Five.
Starting point is 02:18:00 We can shut this down, Matt. Jeff, who wins the Fantasy 5? Ross or me? Lazy Beatles picks, Sink Matt. Lazy Beatles picks? Lazy. Sink Matt. Too easy.
Starting point is 02:18:15 You suck. Anyway, Jeff, go to hell. All right. Is that six or seven? I lost track. You're going to win like 25 in a row. I don't care. It's the Beatles.
Starting point is 02:18:24 Geo, who wins a fantasy five, me or Ross? Yeah, I thought you were going to pull this one out for cheeks, but Ross in the landslide, Matt, your list sucks. Okay, I want you. Don't get hit by a train this weekend. I want you to have a great weekend, Gio. Seven nothing? Gio, I hope you get pulled over for speeding and get a big ticket.
Starting point is 02:18:44 That's got a sting, folks. Does it make you feel better or do you think they're going to keep going to Ross? Because the champ has his belt back and he's right here. Seven, nothing. That's fine. That's unfair. It's fine. That's like cheeks versus the gas mask.
Starting point is 02:19:01 That just ain't right. So I want y'all to know something. You've let him win and he's vicious and mean. You just hug up on people and told them to go to hell. Yeah, but that's fine. I don't really mean it. Well, I mean some. I'm pretty sure three of them were like your loyal listeners too.
Starting point is 02:19:24 Yeah. No, they know. It's a bit. Yeah. They know I don't want them going to help. You don't want them getting in a car crash. I mean, some I don't want them to get hit by a train. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:19:38 Just know that when you need me, I'm still going to be here despite the fact you hated my list. It's fine. 7-0. That's rough. It can probably go 15. I mean, there's people backing you on Twitter. That's fine. Let's see. Pedro says Ross 49% math, 51% both great lists.
Starting point is 02:19:59 Thank you. Did you want Michael wanted to get his little vote? Maybe he's going to vote for you. Let's go. Let's try. Michael, who wins a Fantasy 5, Ross for me? Man, I'm going to go for you, Matt. Just the Beach Boy song.
Starting point is 02:20:10 Put me over the top there, man. Thank you very much. Good job, Michael. Yeah. We're getting pity votes. I lost seven to two. Probably could have been 85. Two?
Starting point is 02:20:19 Oh, you're counting one guy off on Twitter. Don't make you read other tweets. No, no, no, no, no, no. Seven to two might go a little other way. No, it's probably going to be 115 to three. That's fine. Bex says no schools out. I thought about that one.
Starting point is 02:20:32 School's out for the summer. Alice Cooper. Do you consider that one, Matt? Schools out for the summer, Alice Cooper, right? That's a good song. That's not bad. Let's see. What else did we now?
Starting point is 02:20:44 Oh, under the boardwalk by the drift. I love that song. That is a good song. But I didn't want, I mean, that's like, that's way old school. As was summertime with Sam Cook, which, by the way, did you see Billboard put out the list of the top 100 R&B artists? And where Sam Cook? He was 13th. They had R. Kelly 9th ahead of Marvin Gay 10th.
Starting point is 02:21:04 And they had Kendrick Lamar number one, which is retentally ridiculous. He's a rapid hip hop artist, and he's the first person to win a Pulitzer Prize for music, not in jazz or classical. So he's a great, I mean, world. renowned artist. We're all renowned. We're selling out stadiums across the country. 50 years from now, we're like, man, I cannot wait to hear Kendrick Lamar's greatest hits. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:21:23 22-time Grammy winner. Matt, Biscuitz on here, called me. He said, man, I know that's not your real list, man. They can't believe. You're not, your bar from the show for a week. How about that? They had Marvin Gaye 10, R. Kelly 9. Now, I love, okay, before all this stuff happened,
Starting point is 02:21:42 R. Kelly was a great. Allegations. Free allegations. are Kelly great all-time R&B artists. But to have him ahead of Marvin Ghe... Marvin Gay! I'm going to bring this list back up.
Starting point is 02:21:55 Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder won Aretha Franklin, too. I mean... Yeah, no argument to that. I'm not really an argument. I'm not really an argument. He's hip-hop, but that's okay. Yeah, that was...
Starting point is 02:22:07 That was unbelievable. I saw that. It was like after the Astros game. Like, for 20 minutes, I was angry and couldn't go to sleep. So, Steve you wanted this. This is best R&B singer. R&B artists.
Starting point is 02:22:19 So not necessarily singing voice, but I think overall artistry, music, songwriting, all that, I believe. Where's Luzav Andros in this list? Oh, I just crossed him. Hold on. I'm trying to... Ooh, Donnie Hathaway, 21.
Starting point is 02:22:32 I like that. Let's start from the top. Yeah, this is another one that pissed me off. Usher 12, Sam Cook, 13. Usher's like, I'm too high. Even Usher. Drop me on this list. Usher had some hits now.
Starting point is 02:22:47 That Usher Tiny Desk was great. If you watched the Usher Tiny Desk. Mariah Carey 8, Prince 7, James Brown's 6. But I think of him. He's more of a funk artist. Do you call that R&B? Because there's no funk category. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's appropriate. Whitney Houston 5. And honestly, I love Whitney Houston. That was Anna Ross. But Whitney Houston was kind of more popy to me. Whitney? More of a pop artist.
Starting point is 02:23:13 I would say the same thing for Moray Carey. I want the answer to somebody is pop. Exactly. I will always love you. That's a country, that's a Dolly Pardon. Country Pop. That's what I'm saying. Kick her off the list.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Saving all of my loving for you. I mean. Diana Ross. Hold on. Michael Jackson 3. Look, Steve, you wonder of Rachel. Michael Jackson 3.
Starting point is 02:23:35 I would also call Michael Jackson more pop. Now, young Michael Jackson with the Jackson 5 was more R&B. Diana Ross 29th. That's too low for her. Behind all of Erica Badu. I love Erica Baidu. But Diane Ross, behind Chris Brown 26th.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Ooh, Bill Weather's 24th. I think that's good. Teddy P. 23? Luther Vandross 22. Michael Bolton? I don't think he's on there. Donnie Hathaway? Not a lot of super light complexion on this list, Matt.
Starting point is 02:24:07 Donnie Hathaway 20. Donnie Hathaway, underrated. I'm telling you right now. Listen to some Donnie. I was making you listen to Dunny Hathaway live on the way to... It wasn't terrible. On the way to Lake Charles. Wasn't bad.
Starting point is 02:24:18 How about young Elton John? Algreen 18. Janet Jackson, 17. Mary J. Blige 16. Isaac Hayes 15. Curtis Mayfield 14. Sam Cooke 13. Usher 12.
Starting point is 02:24:29 If you got Sam Cooke behind Usher, I'm sorry. It's today's kids. These kids today. These kids today do not appreciate the Beatles. Listen to this. Listen to this three in a row. Ray Charles 11. Marvin Gay 10.
Starting point is 02:24:48 R. Kelly 9. What member of that group does not fit? Which of these is not like the other. Come on now. All right. Am I really taking this call? Why do I have to do this myself? Since Matt's honest.
Starting point is 02:25:00 Maybe he's going to vote for you, Matt? No, it doesn't matter. The voting is done. You know what I'm? I am Dukakis against Reagan. It was Dukakis Reagan, right? Was it Mondale? No, it was definitely Mondale Reagan for one of them.
Starting point is 02:25:14 Okay, they were to, uh, maybe it was the second time. I don't know. I was three years old. All right. Yeah, Dukakis, you're right. Mike, 790, good afternoon. Hey, Matt. Good afternoon, guys.
Starting point is 02:25:27 I just wanted to let you know. I loved your list, Matt. It was the best list, greatest list of all time. Uh, with boys of summer. Uh, that had me going. That was my all time favorite. But I really think both of you missed out on magic with the cars. summer turns me upside down
Starting point is 02:25:42 it's a great song okay that's all I had guys thank you I'm not thank you Mike for the phone car I'm not a cars fan I would say they're okay we always do overrated underrated properly right I say properly rated cars had some hits
Starting point is 02:25:56 let me pull up the car songs drive let's go magic they're all right is driving just what I needed I gave you just what I need it. That's good.
Starting point is 02:26:17 Summer songs, though? Well, he said, mentioned summer in the lyrics. Oh, okay. I didn't remember what he said. What was it? What I've done? I've done better if I'd have gone with the summer breeze?
Starting point is 02:26:25 I don't know. You lost seven to nothing in my book. I lost seven to two. I'm using internet vote as 10%. By the way, Beyonce four. Ahead of Whitney. When I... And by the way, Beyonce Pop.
Starting point is 02:26:41 I would, now, especially early on Destiny's Child. I would... I'm sorry, Whitney's on this list. Should not be... She should be... On the pop list. Okay, I'm going to agree with you. Two things are true, in my opinion.
Starting point is 02:26:50 I think she's on a pop list. But if she's on the R&B list, she ain't behind Beyonce. I'm sorry. I'm not to have to agree with Ross on that one. Whitney is just pureless. Tagalog would be above both of them. I can't believe she's 29. You're right.
Starting point is 02:27:07 You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yes. This is why they make these lists, though. To make us mad. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:27:18 I like 18. like yeah this this pocket from like 18 to 20 as Al green smoky Robinson Otis Redding Donnie had the way we still like Smokey Robinson despite the issues going on with him we gotta have her happen with that uh I think it's still being litigated those of you that don't know he's had a variety and you can't listen to anybody you've had a he had a variety of house uh housekeepers yeah and he apparently sexually assaulted assaulted intimidated them yeah held back pay and by the way Mrs. Robinson was a part of that as well.
Starting point is 02:27:51 Not having sex with the maids, but basically holding back money, underpaying them, and harassing them. Jeez. I'm going to listen to Smokey's... I think it's called Smokey's Soul Town on Sirius XM. That sounds good. I feel dirty even listening to it.
Starting point is 02:28:09 Lionel Richie 32nd. Donna Summer, 34. Babyface. Babyface should be higher, I think. Donna Summer 34? Babyface 35? For everything he revolutionized in Iron 5? We got to move all three, though. We got to move.
Starting point is 02:28:22 she up. We've got to move Donna Summer up. We're going to move Diana Ross up. Got to take Whitney off the list. Allia 40th. Brandy ahead of Barry White. 41 Brandy. Come on. Barry White 42.
Starting point is 02:28:38 Deion Warwick, I would say possibly underrated 43? Very much underrated. Cizza had 44. DeAle had some hits now. This was a group down by... This has got some hits. This is 22-year-old's doing this list. Rihanna 46, the weekend 47. I'll honestly think those are, I mean, those could be.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Lauren Hill, great albums, but short career. She's 48th. Let's play a hell yeah or not. We're doing alive or dead. Very simple. If they're alive, you say hell yeah. If they're dead, you say not. 145 on 790. I love this song, but
Starting point is 02:29:09 I would get destroyed by you weirdos that hate the Beatles. So I knew I wasn't going to take this. I mean, here comes the sun was great. The second one was a little much. I felt like that's fine. In my opinion.
Starting point is 02:29:23 It's fine. Remember that recommendation you're looking for, Jonathan? I'm sure Ross will carry a lot of weight with that one. No, I got you. Yeah, what's up? People know me? I love the Beatles, actually. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:29:34 I appreciate it. Look at this guy. All right. Beatles number one. By the way, the Beatles channel on Sirius XM is the number one music-specific channel on their network. So suck it all of y'all that hate the Beatles. And by the way, if you think it's cool to hate the Beatles,
Starting point is 02:29:48 so y'all can suck it too. I don't hate the Beatles. they're just not my jam Okay They're nice They revolutionized the game Thank you Like same of the thing
Starting point is 02:29:56 But I know I respect the Beatles more than the Beach Boys I would listen to the Beatles more than the Beach Boys There's no Beach Boys channel I wouldn't I wouldn't go to a certain disoley of the Beach Boys No No no no no
Starting point is 02:30:08 But Beatles love was spectacular Like surfing USA is A very tough lesson Yeah but Beatlemania stuff isn't very good to me Eight days a week And the early stuff Around how much is when they really started to mature.
Starting point is 02:30:22 I'm not a big fan of like... Revolver Rubber Soul was very good. Sergeant Peppers. That's when they really hit their stride. Parts of the White album was excellent. Abby Road, let it be. Yeah, but then they're like, yeah, you know what, we're busy. Ringo, you write a song and then it was terrible.
Starting point is 02:30:39 It don't come easy, Ross. I guess. He's got the lyricism of the third grader. Yeah, I would never... We're all having the yellow submarine. By way, I would not put him in the Songwriters' Hall of Fame. We probably is.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Shout out to three members of the Doobers for getting in the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Three of them? Which one? Well, the two originals. Dale Doobie? Donnie Doobie? And Michael McDonald's. The guy you hate. Again, he's just not my jam.
Starting point is 02:31:08 Five minutes left to go on the show. What should we do? We should play America's fastest growing sports radio game show, Monday through Thursday, we called it B, leaving or not, but on Friday, we call it a hell yeah or not. And here's how it works. You'll call 713212-5-790, 7-1-3-2-1-2-5-7-90.
Starting point is 02:31:31 Today's edition of Hell-Year-Nodd is, are these people alive or dead? Am I helping with this? You can help. All right. If they're alive, you'll say this. Hell yeah! If they're dead, you'll say this. Two hell yeah or nots in a row when you're probably playing for it.
Starting point is 02:31:49 today, Jonathan. We have three prizes. Of course, the Sports Talk 790 t-shirt. A pair of reserve seats at the IMAX advanced screening of F1 the movie starring Brad Pitt. Only in theaters in IMAX June 27th from Warner Bros. Pictures and we have a pair of tickets as well for the big three basketball on August 2nd at the Toyota Center. Tickets are on sale now at Toyota Center.com. Well, you know I got to say to that, Jonathan, don't you?
Starting point is 02:32:15 A yay, yeah, yeah! All right, here we go. Let's talk to John on 7.09. John, you're ready to play hell yeah or not. Hell yeah. All right. I'm going to ask Ross first. He'll give you his answer and then you give yours, okay? Just a recommendation. Oh, gosh. Ross, Jerry Mathers, the beaver. Hell yeah or not. No clue, John, no clue. I'll say he's alive, but I don't know.
Starting point is 02:32:40 Hell yeah. Yeah, he's 77 years old. Great. Balfour Lee Trevino. I think he died. recently, John. Or he got sick. All right, Ross.
Starting point is 02:32:55 I'm going through his thing. He's alive. He's 85. Sorry. I'm sorry. John, I told you I wasn't sure. Did he get sick or something? Or was it somebody else that died recently?
Starting point is 02:33:06 Brian on 7. Are you ready to play? Hell yeah or not. Oh, yeah. I feel horrible. Former Boston Celtic Robert Parrish. Hell yeah or not. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:33:16 This is a good one, Brian. I don't know. I think the big chief is dead. I want to go to Ross. No, he's alive. Sorry, 71. Oh, I don't want to do this anymore. I've cost two people prizes. Oh, well. Roger on 790, ordered to play Hell yeah or not. Yeah, Jay.
Starting point is 02:33:40 Florence Henderson, she was the mom on the Brady Bunch. Hell yeah or not. I have no. I don't really know, Roger, but I think she's alive. I don't know. Yeah, West and all lives. because of her after you. Nope, she's dead. She died in 2016 at the age of 82. Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:57 This is one of your worst efforts in a long time. What's going on with that? Anthony on 790, ready to play, hell yeah or not? Hell yeah. Jimmy Walker from Good Times.
Starting point is 02:34:07 Hell yeah or not? All right. I'm like one for four, Anthony, but I think he's dead. I'm going to go with not. He's alive. He's 77. Is Thor?
Starting point is 02:34:20 This is the worst ever. I was doing great the last three. I told people, don't listen to me. Chris on 790, ready to play. Hell yeah or not. Hell yeah. Sandy Kofax. We did this one recently.
Starting point is 02:34:32 He's alive. Alive. That's right. Hell yeah. And last time, I said, last time I was like, oh, he's long dead. Name number two for the win. Billy Jean King. Oh, they just did a documentary on her.
Starting point is 02:34:46 Isn't she alive, Chris? I don't trust you or your track record. John. Nope, she's alive. You should have trusted Ron. I can't even get mad at Chris. She's 83. Normally when people go against me, I'm like, yeah, suck it. But no, I've been horrible. Jeremy, ready to play hell yeah or not? Kill you. Former boxer Hector Macho Camacho.
Starting point is 02:35:09 I don't know. Okay, I think he's right, Jeremy. Go ahead. He died in 2012 at 50. That sounds good. Former Rockets, Black Magic Lewis Lloyd. I think he's alive, Jeremy. I don't know. Ooh. I gotta think Ross has got to get one of these rights. I'll go alive. No, he died in 2019, age of 16.
Starting point is 02:35:31 That's it. I nailed them. That's your worst ever. That was the worst one. Well, this is why you asked me to help because I don't know who's alive or dead. This is the whole bit. Mm-hmm. And you failed the audience. And you failed me. That cost like four people a price. Up next. Clant Wexler, the A.T.
Starting point is 02:35:48 Yvonne Sports Talk 790. Have a good weekend. Talk to you for after 730. Thank you.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.