The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Astros Lose Series vs Twins… Where Have the Bats Gone? OKC Evens the Series

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

Astros Lose Series vs. Twins… Where Have the Bats Gone? OKC Evens the Series...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. In H-Town, good morning, and welcome to a Thursday edition of the Matt Thomas show with Ross. This is Sports Talk 790, which ties the most in a game by the Astros this season. And the Astros are down to their final out. Ross, sing it with me. Astro bats! Please! God! Injuries are a large part of them. this, but
Starting point is 00:00:53 baby, come back. And as Joe is spotted told us yesterday, they've been running into some good pitchers. Joe Ryan's very good. I didn't realize that Cy Young was throwing BBs yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Cy Ryan. Live without you. I can't live without the Astros. Well, they're living without it. They're just living with losses. Without it. I mean, Cam Smith had two hits yesterday. It's back over over 200.
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's good. Hey, he's over the Mendoza line. Adda, baby. Mike Burroughs wasn't that bad. It's actually pretty solid. All he's doing, though, is giving up home runs. Every single start, it feels like. Well, you know, if you take away the home runs that he and he might have been given up,
Starting point is 00:01:42 they've had some great starts recently. Yeah, if you take away the Grand Slams, the hard mound and the eating times. Hey, hey, hey, he's adjusting. He is adjusting. Give him a break. We were encouraged. We're not satisfied. We were encouraged.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Well, Mike Burroughs always giving up runs with two outs. That's where he really runs at a problem. Yeah, what is his ERA after two outs? Don't even look. I don't want you to look. 9,000? He's 2 and 6 with earning a 5.75. Not a quality start yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We were hoping for better. Four runs over 6 is not a quality start. So let's want to call it. What's who called us Quality Start Zero Sugar or something like that. Lubal. Hello, Nate Pearson. Nice to see you yesterday. Yeah, throwing a huntsky.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah. Nothing of BB's there. Yes. Blue ball with a scoreless frame. Efficient. Got some ground ball outs. Throwing a hundred. Nate Pearson.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm on board. I'm going to have to agree with Adam Wexler about something that he said just a couple of days ago on these airwaves called 790. Hmm. Okay. The Astro's offense in the first month, it was the one-off. This was not built to be a super dynamic offense. It just wasn't. Well, I will...
Starting point is 00:02:54 Now, injuries certainly will add to that as well. Where you're missing is the back end of the lineup. Correa is out for the year, and Correa was having a good start to the season. He wasn't tearing the cover all the ball. OPS was like around 7.30, 7.50-ish. He had a positive OPS plus. I think it was close to 120.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Which is good. Yeah, 100 is average. So you're looking good there. And in theory, Pena Piraides, Alvarez, Walker, Correa is pretty good. And Cam Smith, of course, has regressed. Christian Walker is where he, we expect him to be right now. He's around 250, 260 hitter, basically his old career, OPS 819.
Starting point is 00:03:33 That's who Christian Walker is. Yes. Christian Walker regressed back to the norm. Yes. And for the norm, that's, you wanted more than a norm. You sign him for more than the norm, but you got essentially what you paid for. I would say this month, yeah, they're in between. The average, if you're saying the sum of where they are
Starting point is 00:03:54 Is that what you're saying? I don't know what I'm saying. The hot start and then the cold now and you mesh it into the average of they're just kind of a top 10-ish offense. Yeah. I think that's where they're. But the reality is this.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You were hoping Pena would be more. Again, but his is incomplete because the injury. Yeah, he's hurt. Give him a break. I mean, I'm giving him a break. I'm saying, but you were hoping. No, you're saying he's the worst. You said his career's over.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I heard, and I quote. You must be listened to a different podcast in between tennis podcast. Yeah, that must be it. By the way, we found out yesterday the IHeart is now partnering with the Beach Football League, which means you'll be getting some beach football league. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Would I lie about that? Are you, are you, uh... Okay. It was in the industry trade, which means we're getting a beach pot football league podcast. Why don't we get you on those games? There's no games. And there's a time out.
Starting point is 00:04:40 He's got sand in his eye. First down in 10 for Marina del Rey at the 14th pier. Oh, wow. I just made that up. And the hunting. and marauders are down two touchdowns. After their quarterback tripped over a conch shell.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It's Marina del Rey versus Orange County. All bets are off. An Australian Shepherd is on the loose. Yeah, I saw that yesterday. I chuckled for a minute, and then I realized there's a podcast coming eventually. Of course. All right, so back to who we were talking about. Oh, by the way, it's Matt and Ross.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Good morning to you, Houston, Texas. I will tell you this, before I get back, we got four hours to kill here, so I can space myself here. I did not swear today on the way of the work. Really? I did not middle finger anybody. What? It was actually, who are you?
Starting point is 00:05:35 A peaceful, easy feeling ride to the office today. There was nobody on the road. Oh, okay. I thought you were actually controlling your anger. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. Please, ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I mean, I'm trying to help. So what is going on? Because, now, I know, on Memorial Day weekend, but that's Monday. Yeah. Could be a four-day weekend. I mean, a lot of people were expecting a ton of rain the last couple days. So I don't know if people are working from home just because of the rain.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Could be part of it as well. It is funny, though. However, you know, shows you how weird our lives are in society. This is non-sports for a second. So, you know, we get up in the morning. We watch today. It's a little bit of headlines, a little bit of entertainment. It's just light and easy.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I'm not watching ESPN for that horrific hot take garbage for three hours. God bless you. But there is it going to be. be a record, and I don't know what the number is. I just forgot what it was, but they were saying a record number of people flying and driving this weekend. I've never been a huge... In America? In America. In America. In America. No, in America. Okay. Because we hit our record in spring break, of course. Of course we did. Allegedly. So our airfares are as high as they've been before. Our gas prices are. And people are like, yeah, we're still going somewhere. I guess. I've never been a
Starting point is 00:06:48 Memorial Day traveler because I've always been involved with school or work. It's time to relax on Memorial Day. I feel like Memorial Day is like you just sit at home and don't leave. Yeah, that's my plan. Yeah. I'm working on Monday, by the way. I'm proud of you. Yeah, the tradition's alive.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, I do work Memorial Day and I work a lot of July 4th. That's what we call you Memorial Day Matt. Yeah. They do? Yeah. Okay. I guess it's among other things. Yeah, I know there's been other things.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But it's interesting that we are bitching a morning about our $4 gas, but yet we just can't getting the car fast enough. No, I'm not good. I'm not going anywhere. I'm bitching and moaning, and I'm trying to drive less. You do drive less. Don't even drive, but that's just jealousy on my part. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah, that's what's planned. So we got Astros to get two today. We got, we got to this lineup. And good God. I mean, 15. How many strike got? Yeah, 15 yesterday. Would Joe Ryan have nine, I think, at least?
Starting point is 00:07:39 He's good, by the way. He might be one of the best five pitchers in baseball you've never heard of. I mean, yeah. I mean, not a household name, put it that way. Right, not a household name, but you're like, oh, yeah. Joe Ryan's still on the 20s. I believe he pitched against him when they met in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, he's had good success against him.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Higher ERA, but good record against him. All right, so we got that to get to today. We got Brian McTaggart's going to join us at 11 o'clock. Oh, Brian McTaggart. He's going to break down this lineup. That'll take about a second and a half. Yeah. I think he could throw five scoreless.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I didn't see anything, and pardon my ignorance for this, there was nothing on McCullors yesterday, correct? After the game, I don't think there was. They said shoulder inflammation before. But he was I-L before the game. Yeah, yeah. So maybe we'll see if Brian's got anything. I don't know if he will.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Again, today is an off-day for the Astros, and when you go into the off-day mode, they don't want to talk, they don't want to listen, there's no requirements. Especially when you're 20 and 31. Let's go in the cave. Only six-back.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh, now we're sticking with, good thing you didn't get those shirts printed up. That's why I didn't print them. It would have lasted 12 hours. I knew better. Well, I mean, it could be five. Only six-back, huh? Well, instead of already six-back.
Starting point is 00:08:46 That's good. You know what I got to do. I got to look and see at the A's play today because that would help us out here because you can wake up tomorrow. They're playing the angels. All right, so tomorrow's show will be only six and a half. You're going to handle this.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Oh, that's right. Are you completely off? Oh, yeah. Carl is graduating tomorrow. Oh, okay. So we're going to talk about that today a little bit. Are we? Graduation do's and don'ts. You guys are going to Dikin.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yes. Early. There's all these humble schools. Oh, by the way, I figured out the reason why we're at Dynken. Normally. Umble ISD schools graduate at Reliance Stadium. Okay. But there's a certain event coming up in a month there. And I believe that's what they call it. Okay. And there will be, they've closed the stadium off to anybody. So we had, as I said last week, we had a choice either going to Fortita Center with a guest restriction or to Dikin. And you can bring you can bring your 19 cousins and your grandma. Yeah. So we're at Dikin. And there's three high school.
Starting point is 00:09:46 schools in the Humble District. Yeah. Actually, it's four. Summerwood. Yeah, four. And so we drew the short straw. We're at 9 a.m. for graduation. And all the gowns have an oxy patch on, correct?
Starting point is 00:09:58 That's Jim Crane's orders. Let me tell you something. If I can put a corporate sponsor on Carly's graduation gown, I would do it. Okay. She's already asking me for NIL. I'm like, honey, I've been your NIL. Yeah, where's her fund? I'm going to give.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Oh, good, I'm going to send it to you. I give her like 20 bucks. I'd love that. Twonsky? I mean, you kind of, yeah. Nice if Uncle Ross gave her a graduation. 20 is fine. No, I didn't get anything for any of your kids,
Starting point is 00:10:22 so if you gave her something, that's special treatment, I can't do that. You've bought meals for my boys, haven't you? Of course. Well, then you bought a meal for my daughter? Your son is not allowed to pay for a meal around me. That's nice. That's Uncle Ross coming through. All right, so, do's and don'ts.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Because the number one reason why I ask the do's and don'ts on a graduation is because I believe my daughter's graduating class is 700, 800-deep. I can't clap 700 times. No. I can't clap 25 times. Get like a little clapping machine. Like I should record one and just fire it off. Actually, that's smart.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Do that, yeah. Now you're thinking. I like that. So we run through the list of do's and dones for graduation. Okay. We've got Brian McTaggart. We've got shut your bum ass up. And we're going to combo it with I just don't get it because Ross is on I just don't get it that he wanted to pop in there.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Well, I forgot what it was already. So I remember what it was. Okay. We have the news at noon. We have Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers. Yeah, we can't help it. We got to stop.
Starting point is 00:11:17 We have to stop because that's really more inside baseball than anything else. Not really. People remember those commercials. Jonathan, you remember those commercials? Oh, God. No, no, no, no. I thought it was after Susan Wallman. Roger Clement.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Roger Clemens. But it was also on the State Farm commercials. Oh, okay. That I didn't know. Yeah, I thought y'all were doing a bit this whole time. I didn't know you were referencing something. Oh, see, here we go. Well, he's young.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Here's a mere pup. We have the Thunder, even the series at a game of peace. Yes. We have New York. By the way, we have elevators, obviously in our building, and we have television screens next to the elevators, which is, it's nice, but not necessarily. No, I watch them for, go.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So, hey, sometimes those elevators, take a minute. So I was telling you this minute ago that I don't watch the ESPN shows unless I have to. They had a stupid headline. As a matter of fact, do you have ESPN right here that was, does the Knicks need this win tonight? Oh, is it a must win for the Knicks? No, no. How important is the Knicks win? I'm thinking to myself, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:14 first of four all feel very important don't you you only get seven shots at it uh yesterday was it does do the spurs have control of the series i believe the answer was no don't you want to go to espn and fire everybody that writes those or is it everybody that writes them writes them you know where they write them because they get ratings it's us we're all like oh man why why are they regurgitating all these movies why are they giving these bad too why are the tv shows bad because they all get ratings. I'm sorry, Jonathan. I'm sorry. They go to where the fish are. They fish where the fish are. You know what it is? And we're getting stupider. We're a simpleton
Starting point is 00:12:56 crowd. Yes, we're getting dumber. And the, yeah, education is getting worse. Have you seen those videos circling around where people have these words and the high school kids can't say them? Like silhouette and stuff like basic words? And they're like, read this out loud and they can't read. Kind of take them to two, Bank in Park tomorrow morning? Okay. Yeah. That'd be an indictment against those kids.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Right. Yeah. How are they reading? And they're passing all the kids. Talk to anybody you know that's a teacher. Jonathan knows. His girl comes home and complains all the time, doesn't she? Look, there's so many stories I couldn't tell them.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I know. It's getting worse. Talk to a teacher if you really want to get scared about our future. Talk to any teacher you know. But I believe in the kids that are future. I don't believe in those idiots. Keep them well and these dumb asses are going to ruin us all. What's the parents too?
Starting point is 00:13:44 I mean, don't even get it. I'm off the soapbox. I'm getting up and walking away. We don't have enough time in the show. Yeah, exactly. We go full four hours complaining. You know what? We're going to smile.
Starting point is 00:13:55 We're going to run through the Astros lineup when we come back. Oh, yeah. You know what? No, let's talk about our dim future rather than the Astros lineup. Talk about our dim present. 713-212-5-790. If you believe the children are our future, 7-13-212-5-7-90. It is 10-22.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Matt and Ross with you here on this Thursday. If you are off today or just working from home, we'd love to have you call the show. We are the, I wouldn't say we're the friendliest radio show when it comes to callers unless you're stupid, and then we make fun of you. But we make fun of you because we do love you. I mean, it's not like, you know, we're like your older brother
Starting point is 00:14:38 or your younger brother. We're going to tease you. Or your cousin, yeah. But if you have stupid cut takes, we're going to, I just can't say thanks for the call. Appreciate you listening. Things usually accumulate. You get fed up.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah. You're very fed up with James right now, Gambler, Jim. It's terrible. And hopefully the gamblers will go away after this week. It's their final game of the season. Oh, it is? I think so. It's like homecoming week?
Starting point is 00:14:58 When they go away, I don't have to hear about it. He can go back to being regular James and Klein. They do offseason talk? What are they now? The UFL. UFL draft. I will put my resignation in it and call it a great 35-year career in radio. If you're talking UFL draft?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Correct. Okay. If you catch me talking UFL draft, we're in serious trouble. Jonathan said he could be returned, man. Jonathan, I get up to field quick, maybe. If I could get you a tryout, I would love to talk UFO football. You guys, I would, I can get you at least. How old are you again?
Starting point is 00:15:38 23. Oh, you're perfect. That's perfect age. But the thing is, I don't like getting hit. I don't like getting hit. That's part of the problem. He's a track guy. Why do you think he's in track?
Starting point is 00:15:47 I quit football for a reason. I'm not getting popped, all right, look. Yeah, so he doesn't want to be out there. And you got to make sure, I don't know if all their checks are going to cash eventually. Those Oklahoma drills, I ain't worth it. Okay, so let me. They still have the kids doing Oklahoma drills? I thought they outloaded those.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Nice. Here's the segue. Those that have bad hands played defensive back. Those that have even worse hands were on track. Are your hands garbage? Look, all right, I played safety. Oh, there you. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I can confirm it. Your hands suck. You're a hog hands. Hog nuts and hong hands? You're just full of hog. All right. Time. John,
Starting point is 00:16:32 then I'm going to put you to it. I need a sad, depressing song because I'm going to run through the Astros lineup. We got four hours to kill here. We got it. We got a, we got a, we got a full of time here. Lord.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Maybe what do you want to get into Texans OTAs? No. Okay, so I'm just saying we need something here. Because what we're going to do is we're going to run through the lineup. We're going to talk about whether the expert. expectations of like March match what they are right now. This works. This is Adele?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah. Hi Adele. Hi, Adele. We know who it was. All right, Jeremy Payne, one for four, OPS of 638. That's a largely incomplete, right? That's not fair to give it to him at this point. Oh, Gambler Jim wants to let you know that it's not their last game.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I think this is Gambler, Jim. Yeah. I mean, I just, they don't need to be around. It's their last game in your mind. In my mind. They never existed in my mind. Sorry, Jim. I know you're calling in, but...
Starting point is 00:17:27 Jim, you're not getting on the show. There you go, Jim. Your calls are terrible. Have a great week, Jim. Have a great week. Enjoy yourself. Thanks for listening. We always appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Isaac Paredes, 0 for 4 was now an OPS of 7-Eleven. I mean, that doesn't necessarily match what we thought it was going to be, so he's actually down a little down. Let's get him home to the Crawford boxes. You're an announcement. Alvarez, deceptive numbers a little bit here. 0 for 4 yesterday. His OPS is still over 1,000.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Batting average is still over 300. But, man, he was the player of the month in the first month of the year. He was the MVP candidate. He's not going to hit 400 all year. Why not? He's got a break. I'm giving him a break. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:18:09 All right. Christian Walker, batting average, after yesterday, 04, 2 strikeouts, 255 batting average in OPS of 819. That's kind of where we, that's frankly, a little bit above expectations. Okay. Although he's regressed a little bit, as has the entire team offensively. Sneaky snake Jake, 0 for four yesterday with three strike. OPS of 641.
Starting point is 00:18:33 We will give him an incomplete because he's our friend. Okay, I like that. Yeah, he's just getting back from his oblique. Zach Desenzo, one for three now with an OPS of 670, not on the radar, so he doesn't get a grade. Bryce Matthews, O for three, three strikeouts. My God. OPS of 609. Now playing second base because of Jose Altuva's injury would not be at second base today, if not for Jose's injury.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And frankly, if Altuva is healthy and you're bringing everybody back like you did this week, Rossi, Rice is probably back in Sugarland. Fair to say? Cam Smith. I don't know. Well, at least he got a couple hits. Cam Smith, two for three yesterday, bumping his OPS to 618. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Now, he imploded second half of the year last year. I mean, fell off a cliff, and he's still asking for help. How's how's every day Vasquez doing? Christian Vasquez. Joel Spott is an idiot. Christian Vasquez needs to be in the lineup every day. Who's that? Just a guy?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Come on now. I know people were saying that. Zach Cole won a pinch hit appearance. Strike out. Oh, really? OPS is 620. How's he doing? What's his average?
Starting point is 00:19:53 batting average of 186. Oh, okay. Is that bad? Why are you doing this to me? Why are you doing this to city? Because we're trying to entertain people at least. Oh, this is entertaining? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:20:07 What else? That's it for now. Oh, thank you. We'll address a pitching exam later. So your dad puts the belt up. Oh, thank God. And then I'll listen to here. You need one more.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Only six back. 1029. Sports Talk, 7.90. Matt and Ross with you today until 2 p.m. 713-212-5-790. Anybody but James and Klein can call. 7-13. I'll even take that dumb-ass Gary and Spring to call if he wants to. 7-13-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 00:20:43 We're going to mix a lot of different things up today on a show because, again, to Ross's, I mean, good point. We're not going to get into a four-hour deep dive with the Astros offensive wolves. We will mix an Astros. We know there's a lot of people in here, but the problem is, and this is the last thing about this Astros thing in this second, is that not only are they they're playing what about 350 baseball give or take 333 baseball it feels like
Starting point is 00:21:09 it's not good it's a good hitting average there's not a good win percentage there's not anything particularly interesting I mean there are story lines but they're old storylines yeah what's happening with tatu yamai
Starting point is 00:21:24 is Mike burrow's going to turn it around and more injuries injuries over and over again it's just it's not good as we creep deeper into the season I guess also too you can never go Man, I'm watching this team win only three games every two weeks, but man, they're fun to watch. Nobody ever says that.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So we're getting into an adjustment period where people are starting to tune out, and I don't want that. I need – it's not our job. We can't. We can't go tell the asteros, please do something. Give us something to hold – you know, give us some optimism. The only way you do it is you win games. Yeah, you can get players back. You got your co-ace, your ace.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And then you're number two coming up this weekend. Or I guess number three. Aregetty, Lambert, and Ting. Is that how we're setting it up that way? Sure. All afternoon games at Wrigley. I mean, Wrigley Field still is a great place to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I mean, kind of makes sense. That would have been a great Memorial Day weekend for Astro fans. I mean, I'm sure there'll be some Astro fans up there in Chicago. They're not, take a sur expensive, but they're not impossible to get. You can go sit in the bleachers. Get drunk. Wrigleyville's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Oh. As much as I think Boston. in Fenway Park is overrated. Even Wrigley is underrated. The game, yeah, you hop right off the red line and you can walk right in the stadium or go, it's like a third of the experience. You pregame and then you go and then you party after. And the people that are around Wrigleyville welcome you.
Starting point is 00:22:52 They don't like, get the hell out. They're awesome. They're awesome. Oh, we all from. It's like I went on a Tuesday and the play, all the bars, coaches and all that were slammed on a Tuesday night. Cubby Berry. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah, it's good. It's good times. All right. So maybe sometime, maybe in two years when the Astros go back. It'll be worthy, worthy of going. I mean, it's always worthy to go. That's true. Just maybe hide your Astros gear.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Okay, so. This year. We got a little basketball to get to. We got some Aaron Rogers to get to. Rossi, I have been spending a lot of time very happy. Now, it's going to fall on deaf ears. But it feels like the collective college football universe. Ah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Hates this idea of 2014. Now, let's talk about who loves it. Okay. ACC Commissioner Big 12 commissioner Yeah Big 10 commissioner really loves it And the coaches love it
Starting point is 00:23:45 Because that's going to give them a little bit of a safety blanket Yeah if they make the playoff there And get you know win a game or two It's easier to sell to your AD and your president And your fan base that you're doing And so you're making progress And I'm going to assume the fifth element of people that love it Would be the Fox
Starting point is 00:23:57 TNT Netflix Prime Hulu Anybody that could potentially buy some more games To be I'm like two bees buying games. It's over. They'll buy Fox.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Pluto. Pluto. That's that group in the far left that just like, hey, this 2014, if it's bigger, it's better, right? On the other side, you have this group. The SEC hates it. ESPN hates it. Now, they're in cahoots together big time, so maybe they're like, hey, if you hate it, you're going to hate it too. You're going to like it.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'm like it. But I think generally speaking, college football fans, the life blood, of college football is its fans. We collectively hate it. We do. So how much value? I think the answer is little. But can we as a college football fan base yell and scream as much as possible?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Don't do this. Don't ruin what's already probably in some respects over saturated when they went to 12. I think it's one of those things where I'm here. an analogy, Matt. Okay, now you're better than analogies than I am. You ever have your kid and they say they don't want to go somewhere to like the park or the fair or whatever. They're like, yeah, I don't want to go.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I don't want to go. No, Dad, I don't want to go. You make them go and then when they go, they go, they go, and then when they go, that's who the fans are. Hold on. I'm going to go with, I'm going to buy your argument, your analogy when it went from four to 12. Because you got home sites for five games. We're going to watch. We're not going to turn it off. That's what I'm saying. They're, they, we are unfortunately in last place because they have a lot of data
Starting point is 00:25:40 that shows. Some people didn't want it, some people didn't want it even to go from BCS to a playoff. Are we going to watch, Ross? Yes. Are the ratings going to be good? Yes. Are we going to watch North Texas play Auburn?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yes. Here, I'll bring, I mean, we put, what was it, Alabama in from last year, the 914? What was it? Alabama James Madison playing Oregon, right? Wasn't a James Madison, Oregon? Okay, let me go to the the week 16 rankings. Week 16 rankings would have been
Starting point is 00:26:12 Alabama versus Iowa. Would watch that. Yep. Then Miami, Georgia Tech. Sure. Notre Dame Houston. Duh. Yeah. BYU, Tulane, Texas, Virginia. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I'm sorry. So do you think those that left group, that first group I talked about was like, you guys, I know you're, I know you're trying to be nice and everything, but we know best. Vanderbilt, Michigan, Utah, Arizona, and then U.S., or I guess I missed one. I got this misaligned, but you get my point.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah. Man, I'm going to argue. I'm going to trust that America's going to say it's too much. And that we'll catch you on the backside. We'll catch you in the semis. Because 24 just in my mind, as I look at this bracket in my head looks too big
Starting point is 00:27:18 doesn't the cachet of a regular season game just doesn't mean much anymore I think well it's really effectively it's like a playing round into a 16 because you'd get eight buys there's a playing round
Starting point is 00:27:38 then you're into a 16 team tournament I love 12 right round where it is me too give reward the four best in off week yeah and the next four get to play a home game.
Starting point is 00:27:51 It's kind of cool. Yeah. It kind of fits. You get it knocked out in about four weeks. You're done. How long is it going to go? You still get the championship games. And I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And maybe I'm in the minority on this, Ross. I like conference championship games. I can, now I live most of my life without them. But I like them. But a lot of times they are, now they're not all relevant. But they can bring into,
Starting point is 00:28:18 who won the ACC championship game and then everything had to shuffle around. Was it two years ago? Well, last year, the best team, Duke almost won the whole thing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the year before, I think, wasn't there a team that won and it pushed everybody out or something like that? Well, I'll tell you what. Not everybody, but pushed Alabama out or something like that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I know why the SEC loves it because the SEC puts that game in Atlanta? Yeah, it was Clemson. Clemson beat SMU, so they got an automatic bid. Yeah. When LSU plays Florida, that's a festival. That's Atlanta. That's 75,000 people. That's everybody and their mother watching.
Starting point is 00:28:57 They don't want to lose that game. Yeah, but when it was like Texas, Georgia or like, it was like, yeah, both these teams are in the playoff anyways. I know. So it depends. Look, you're probably going to be right. I'm just going to hold out hope that the mighty ESPN and the mighty SEC says, we want our championship games. We want to be able...
Starting point is 00:29:20 Now, again, ESPN, they're no saints in this. They're doing it because they don't want to open up more games. They want to have the whole kit and cabood on, which they ultimately can. They can, you know, ESPN can fall on, it can be this, I don't think this is a good idea,
Starting point is 00:29:35 and then to buy every game. I mean, they can do that. That'd be kind of a hypercritical thing I can do. We are the host and they are the parasites, and we can knock them, we can swipe them off our arm. That's just by not watching. So I would say this.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I think the tournament's too big. I do like conference championship weekends. I think Big 12 championship games have been fun to watch. I kind of look forward to that kind of side. That's just who I am. Now again, I don't know how that moves the needle when it comes to college football fan bases. I also, I'm scared to death that you're going to lose some sexy matchups in the tournament because you have to play an extra layer.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And oh, by the way, Ross, what have we seen in college sports the last 10 years when it comes to bowl games? guys saying, you know what, I got to protect my potential draft status. How is that going to be affected if you have to have an extra layer of playoffs games? It hasn't happened. Was there an Oregon running back? I forgot. I can't remember. Something happened, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's happened a little bit, but I wouldn't expect it too much. All right. So if you want to chime in on the college football front, and again, lines Rossi are being drawn. It's SEC ESPN versus everybody else. But for the colleges of gentlemen, jump in and talk about this? The coaches, they're doing, you know why? Because how many times would a coach be fired if his team made the 24 team bracket?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Minimal, right? You would think? How do you fire me? I got you to the tournament. It's an extra layer of job security beyond the crazy money. 1044, Sports Talk 790. Brian McTegger is going to join us in about 15 minutes. 1048 here on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 00:31:14 The Matt Thomas show with Ross. 713-212-5-790 is the phone number if you would like to get in 7-13-212-5-790. We have Brian McTaggart in the next segment talking all things. Astros. Coming up at 1130, it's a dealer's choice. Normally on Thursdays we do, I just don't get it. Yesterday we weren't able to do shut Joe bum ass up slash ain't nobody got time for that. So either one you want to bring to the table that's coming up at 1130 at 713 at 713.
Starting point is 00:31:48 212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90, where phone lines are open right now. Except for James and Klein. Except for James and Klein. Yeah, everybody else is a fair game. Yeah. And Arthur, can't call, obviously.
Starting point is 00:32:01 All right. Arthur. What a classic. He calls the morning show. I told those guys, stop talking. He's just ridiculous. He's got a screw loose. He's off his rocker.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah, yeah. As they say. All right. So last night, San Antonio, Oklahoma City was good game. One is good as the first one, obviously. It was. Still a good game.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Important storyline there, though. Injuries. Multiple important storylines. Yeah, Dylan Harper got hurt and J.lyn Williams got hurt. Jay Williams 8. 8. Yes. Well, I think...
Starting point is 00:32:36 Eight's been hurt all year with the hamster. Tariko calls the other one J. Will. Yes. Which is, again, for television's purposes, you can do that. But radio, you got to, you know, well, To each his own. Point being is it's tough to have multiple Jalen Williams on the floor at the same time. Yeah, I mean, Jalen Williams is great.
Starting point is 00:32:52 The Thunder are so deep that they can figure it out without him. Yeah. But it's also Dylan Harper down and Deerrin Fox. I don't know what the prognosis is on him. Didn't play any loss on either. I know he didn't play, but I don't know when he's supposed to be back. They said ankle sorensorness. Is everybody on the NBA Twitter saying that Deerne Fox hates the spurs and he doesn't want to play and he's quit on his team?
Starting point is 00:33:13 because his ankle's hurting the playoffs and Kobe would have played through it how toxic is Spurs twirling? That's what happened when Kevin Durant went down. Oh, he hates everybody. He doesn't want to play. Conspiracy theories. Dumbasses. Dumbasses.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Just saying. As you said to me many moons ago and I don't listen to you enough, mute as your friend. Oh my God. It was, yeah, there was one. Because I was talking to one of our listeners, Tim, because I accidentally said that Jeff Luno,
Starting point is 00:33:43 ended McCullors and it was James Click and I was like okay yeah but my point stands you know it's like it was Jim Crane's call I was just saying that matter of factly and then some guy comes out of nowhere is like these these radio hosts you see they get something wrong if you get something wrong they're going to destroy you but when they get something wrong it's just a semantics it's like
Starting point is 00:33:59 what are you talking about this is a listener I interact with all the time and we were just having a conversation you know you stepping in the coolies drinking the Kool-A doesn't know the flavor Maddie well I remember earlier this week I got called a Rick with a P
Starting point is 00:34:15 well that was probably probably warranted complaining about the lack of traffic can what do you call it no just people human beings want aren't doing traffic traffic control basically
Starting point is 00:34:27 oh okay traffic cops oh I know what you're talking about when we were talking about the um getting stuck on Saturday night is bad don't go toward down charters folks go the other way
Starting point is 00:34:39 yeah you would want to go it's on the east side of 59 basically yeah you want to stay away from 59 period. Instead of the west side of 59 and figure it out from there. What I would do probably if you live like where I live,
Starting point is 00:34:49 I would probably, if I had my brothers do this over again, I could say I have to turn left. The parking lot where you parked. You do want to go as far west in downtown as you can. Jump on 10.
Starting point is 00:35:02 You're in B a C lot. Oh. Yeah. If you're B or C lot, you're screwed. You got to go down navigation to get to I-10. Correct. You do the, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:09 But if you are in the, if you're parking anywhere, just go as far west you can get yourself out of downtown. and if you live in Kingwood or let's say humble or whatever, get on 10, circle around to 59, and then you get to avoid all that. But it's not great. It's not easy.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It's not good. All right. 713-212-5-790 is how you reach the show. Today we got Brian McTagger coming up in just a few minutes. Let's go to line one. Our buddy Hans calling us from Denver. Oh, really? So Hans and I've known to it for a long time.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Please explain for 30 seconds, if you don't mind, how you guys have 75-degree weather one day and you've got nine inches of snow the next day. the hell's going on in Colorado right now? We have no idea either. Thanks for taking my call. So yesterday, oh, congratulations to you and your family to graduation. Thank you very much. We sat through graduation yesterday at Red Rocks.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It was 38 degrees, misty rain, 70 degrees, back to 40 degrees, all in a two-hour window. So we have no idea. Meteorologist's nightmare up here in Denver, but it's a beautiful place. It is a beautiful place, but you all have, and I'm going to say this pound for pound, not because you're on the phone. Y'all the wackiest ass weather in America. I really believe Denver, you can go from tornadoes to sunshine to snow and blizzard in three-day stretch.
Starting point is 00:36:22 It's crazy. But you would call about the Astros. Well, that too. So here's my obligatory. Let's be positive Astros call. So we have, by the end of the season, probably what, 50 guys on the big league roster with experience this year, maybe. So if they pan out, does that create greater depth for maybe trade possibilities? Let's say a guy like shoemaker, if he comes out to be a really, really good piece,
Starting point is 00:36:46 and then you come back with the other guys, does he become a trade piece or other guys like him? And so it's just, we've got to be positive because this, we know the injuries have killed these guys this year. And it's just a crazy, crazy thing to see everything that's happening with these guys. Yeah. But the last comment, oh, again, congratulations to you tomorrow, enjoy the graduation. I do think if your daughter's graduating, what, 700 people? at about 1130, she should be done. You can jump on and give us the strippers call tomorrow. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:18 From Dyken Park. But enjoy. Thank you, Hans. It's not Joe's fault. And you guys have a great day. All right. Thank you very much. And tomorrow's on deck's at new.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You can't do it on deck with the stripper call, can you? I'm not going to do that now. That'd be really weird. That's a shame. We've got to skip it. It's a long on deck, too. It's a 120 start. You may want to tell my tagger to have some stuff ready to go.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Oh, yeah. Give us some tidbits. Like, what's more than a tidbit? You know what? Folks, if you've never, ever seen the Astros game notes, you're going to hear a full audio version of it tomorrow with you. That's not true. I'm talking to Astros baseball.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I would do it that way. I'm going to be a trained professional, Matt. You say my first rodeo? Dude, it's a 50-minute pre-game show. You know what I've been doing pre-and-post game shows for 10 years now? That's like, I'm going to throw up. It's crazy. Why are you throwing up on that?
Starting point is 00:38:10 I don't know. Let me tell you, there's about 8 million Keong men that would love to do this year. You're right. Yeah. You're right. But let's face facts. Ross is going to have to do a 50-minute pre-game show.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Look at a lengthy, lengthy breakdown of yesterday's game. That's the thing, too. The Astro scored one run. There's not a whole lot of highlights. Yeah. So we do a game recap. Yes. And when it's like 9 to 8, it's easier.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Easy-peasy. Yeah. It's okay. One run, five hits again. I ain't scared. figure it out. This day in Astros history, you might bring up two or three things.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And this day in Astros history, Bill Spires went two for four and a two to one loss. You should do this month in Astros history and run through the whole month of May. I'll run down every game in this date in Astros history. Ever. 50 minutes. Astros on deck tomorrow with Rossi.
Starting point is 00:39:04 12 to 12.50. Stay tuned. You know, you could also probably extend I'm sorry a little bit. and then maybe squeeze some minutes there. You can besides a clock. You better call in with your apologies. You're probably going to be elbowing people at the graduation.
Starting point is 00:39:19 If I remember, I will try to apologize. Okay. All right, so we are going to get into dues and don'ts on graduation. Like what you should wear, if you should yell at your daughter or your son at their turn, how much clapping do you do? Here's the number one thing that I will need a ruling for. Can I pull my phone out?
Starting point is 00:39:38 and just get on and just look on my phone for a while. Yeah, why not? It's like, it'd be considered rude. You know who I don't get? Well, I guess I could say this for 1130. The guy, now, I don't know if this still happens in this day and age. The guy who records, like, the entire graduation. Did you know a month from now, you'll erase?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, like literally, like, hours. You know what you could be doing during the graduation? It's thinking about, hmm, is there a soccer game I want to go? to. Hmm. Yeah? Should I go buy tickets? What was that?
Starting point is 00:40:12 No, you're, yeah. We'll talk about that in 15 minutes. Well, I was going to do it now if you're looking at the clock. Because, I do what you want. I don't know what's happening right now. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Baby, if you love Brian McTaggart, you're going to get 10 solid minutes with him. And Brian, we were just talking that tomorrow, with it being an odd time, and you're
Starting point is 00:40:43 our Friday on deck guests as well. You and Ross are going to spend like 15, 20 minutes with each other tomorrow. So we're going to really put you to work the next couple days. I know. Exactly. You better have a lot of tidbits. Every one of your tidbits better be on the on deck show tomorrow between 12 and 1 o'clock. I will be spilling tidbits over lunch. I'll be glad to share for sure. All right. Let's get to it. I'm presuming because I didn't see anything. There's nothing on the McCullors update. Will you get something, I guess, tomorrow when you're in Chicago, correct? Yeah, that's right. We're not going to hear anything today.
Starting point is 00:41:14 So, yeah, I would suspect tomorrow morning when we meet you in the dugout at Wrigley Field, we'll get word on what's next. But, yeah, all quiet there. Don't know what to expect there because, you know, I had no idea that was coming based on, you know, talking to Lance or anything. So, yeah, just kind of curious like everybody else is to see what's next for Lance. When you first heard it, I'm going to assume that you have the exact same thought that probably
Starting point is 00:41:41 I did and many of the Asteros fans, oh no, here we go again. And the second thing I thought, Brian, was if this is something that's going to potentially, you know, take a month or two, because inflammation, I mean, you know, every arm is different. But if it's a long time,
Starting point is 00:41:57 there's got to be part of Lance that's going to be thinking, you know what, I did all I could. I can't continue to keep doing this. I can't keep continuing to try to come back, especially with my arm, my forearm, my elbow, just says when we when you're ready you're ready to go but we're not going to make any sort of speedy recovery back from being injured yeah i mean i think i think there's two things with lances that
Starting point is 00:42:21 yeah i mean he has spent the better part of the last five years plus just recovering from injury after injury basically two Tommy johns you know he's out two and a half years before he came back last year um and talking with him in spring training he talked like a guy who sounded like he had had enough that if this is the end of the line for him, he's content with it. I mean, I was like, wow, he's pretty comfortable where he is in his career. But he's also a guy that has battled through injuries. And I think as long as there's a chance for him to play this year, he's going to try to do that again. Hard to say, because we don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:59 But I think he'll do whatever he can to be on the field. But, you know, at some point this year, if it gets to the point where it gets to be, too difficult for him physically. I think he's pretty comfortable just where he's at and, you know, with his career in his life at this point. Brian, we spent the first couple segments of our radio show today discussing the Astros offense as a whole. First month of the year, thereabouts, basically covered up for one of the worst pitching months in the Astros' recent history with the walks and the high run total. And now it's in a deep, deep funk. So as you look at the full view of the Astros offense,
Starting point is 00:43:37 are you waiting for part of what we saw in the first month to come back? Or is because of injuries and because of guys that are not normally playing six, seven days a week, is this what we're going to see more of over the next month or so? Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I think it's probably somewhere in the middle of what they were in April and what they were in May. I mean, I don't think anybody expected what, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:01 the way they were swinging the bat. in April to continue. But, you know, they had Carlos Correa in April, and, you know, he was having a pretty good season at the plate. Of course, he's out for the year. You know, Christian Walker has not had a good May so far, hitting 191. Alvarez is hitting only 209 in May. He was the American League player of the month of April, and even, you know, Paredes is hitting 231. And the young guy, the young corner outfielders are just not hitting Matthews, Cam,
Starting point is 00:44:32 Cam's hitting 182 in May. So those are all issues. I mean, you put young players out there. You're going to have to live and die with them a little bit, but none of these guys are really, you know, stepping up and giving them a big impact at this point. And you look at AAA, I mean, and who's behind them. There's really not anyone at AAA you would feel really good about coming up and taking their spot. So until they start getting some of these guys back healthy, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:01 you know, maybe Lopifito. I know Pena's back in the lineup now in Myers, so maybe they can get it going. But they've got to get Alvarez going again. They've got to get Walker going again. And maybe one of these young corner outfielders to start stepping it up until they get Tremel or Loporffito back and hope that they can be the answer.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's just, they're just a little shorthanded offensively, just the way it is right now. Yeah, Brian, it feels like a couple weeks ago. We're like, oh, they're only three back. And then earlier this week, we were saying, now they're only five back, and now they're six back, and it's, we keep waiting for some kind of corner to get turned, but it doesn't happen. And even though it's only May 21st, but of course, you have been the champion of how are we looking at Memorial Day weekend? And that's coming up.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, you're right. In fact, after Sunday's game, there will be one third of the way through the season. That will be game 54. So, what, they're 20 and 31 now. So if they go to Wrigley and lose two or three, that's, That's a 99 lost pace. That's where you want to be. Even though they're in a division that is not good, like you say, I mean, yeah, yesterday, I was like, oh, they're only five out. Maybe they could get the four out, but no, they dropped the game. Still, if you're 12, 13 under 500, that is a big hole to climb out of.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And so this corner that we're all waiting to be turned, I mean, it needs to start turning soon. So maybe they have the indicator on and they're waiting for the opposing traffic. but they've got to start stacking some serious wins here soon and it's not easy because, you know, the Cubs have been playing pretty well until recently. And, you know, going to Arlington, obviously, is not going to be easy. So, yeah, it's got to happen sooner than later, I'll say.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Talking with Brian McTaggart, Astros.com, MLB.com. We had Joe on yesterday and asked him about the oblique injury that not only has happened to Altovae. I mean, you've had Yonair Diaz, Jake Myers. it's all around baseball. Just your thoughts, Brian, or people you've talked to around the league or players or whoever about this emphasis on bat speed we're seeing. And is it just almost kind of like we've resigned ourselves to it's eventually pitchers' arms are going to get hurt?
Starting point is 00:47:16 Are we saying like eventually the oblique injury is going to be a problem for some of these hitters? I guess. I mean, it seems to be way more soft tissue injuries than we've seen in years past. me a couple years ago. It seemed to be the quad. Everyone had a quad injury and now it's the oblique. You know, are a guy swinging harder now that, you know, you measure the metrics on that, that there's probably, you know, something to that.
Starting point is 00:47:40 But, you know, I don't know. It's, again, it's one of these epidemics just around the league. And Astros would have had, I think, 22 different IL stints, which is way more than any other team. So for the second year in a row, they've been affected by these things more than anybody else. for the most part, they're not injuries suffered on the field, collisions or broken bones. For the most part, they're soft tissue injuries or pitchers getting injured. So I know they made a lot of changes in their medical department and their return-and-play procedures and their personnel.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And guys are still getting injured. So I don't know what the answer is, frankly. And, you know, we're not, we, you know, the media is not really allowed to interview the trainers or anything like that. So those are questions we really can't ask as far as the assures are concerned. Brian, this will be a question we've asked probably once or twice already. Mike Burroughs could not have had a better march in spring training, and that does not count, obviously,
Starting point is 00:48:37 because the results have not panned out during the course of the regular season. He has also given up more home runs than anybody else in, at least the American League, if not even baseball, what's, and it's like you're watching the first four innings and going, damn, this guy is just throwing BBs, and then it's two outs and then full implosion. This is becoming, unfortunately, a regular occurrence for him. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:49:00 His pattern seems to be one bad inning, one bad pitch. He'll walk a couple of guys, give up a three-run homer. And with the way the offense is gone, that's enough damage. And with the way the offense is going in May, there's no room for damage like that. I mean, the starting pitching had stabilized itself a little bit than it had been in April when it was a complete disaster. And, you know, he's one of the reasons why he does give you five or six innings. But he's definitely got to cut down. down on the long balls.
Starting point is 00:49:30 When he gets in trouble in the middle, in the mid-iddings, he's got to get some out pitches and get out of this because, you know, they're counting on him to be one of their middle of the rotation horses. And he hasn't done it so far. You know, I think he'll pitch, but I guess he'll pitch in the Rangers series, maybe Wednesday now. So, you know, another chance for him to write this. But, you know, he does have a couple of really good starts under his belt,
Starting point is 00:49:57 them a couple where he's sort of walking the fine line between giving you a quality start, and then it just goes awry really quickly. So we keep saying it seems like he's close to stacking some good starts together, but he hasn't been able to do it yet. All right. Last question. Where do you put a Wrigley field on your road trip stops among all the places you ever travel to watch the Astros and covered a game? Matt, it's up there.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You know, just was it Fenway a couple of weeks ago, and that is really a fun place. to watch the game just with the atmosphere and the history. And Wrigley is right there as well. Don't get much chance to go there anymore. So sort of looking forward to it. But I would put it probably, I kind of put Fenway and Wrigley in their own category just because they're so unique.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And I mean, I would probably rank them first or second just as far as if I was sitting in the stands and watching a game, I don't think you can get much better than a Wrigley Field on the afternoon in the summer. Save travels to the Windy City. and look forward to listening to you and Ross tomorrow with a 45-minute rundown of everything, every tidbit you've ever given in the history of tidbits tomorrow on the Friday on deck show. Get ready, baby. I'll be the guy on the plane with the light at night working, getting those tidbits going.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Perfect. Thanks, Tagg. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thanks very much. That's Brian McTaggart of the Astrost.com and MLB.com with us here on the program. 1130, we've got shut your bow mess up, and anybody got time for that. that we come back. Aaron Rogers says he's done after this season. Oh, he's going to get his farewell tour. Nice. Did they do farewell tours in the
Starting point is 00:51:36 NFL? I guess. They give him like a rocket chair when he goes to play in Cleveland. Oh, I like that. That's kind of crazy. Crochet kit. Yeah, 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-9. You know, I was thinking about driving in this morning. I thought, so if McHulters finds out, Ross,
Starting point is 00:51:56 he has like a what's the next sign above inflammation, but not like Tommy John. What would be what's not a sprain? So shoulder sprain. I mean, that's what Javier and... Okay, so let's say he's got a Javier type sprain. Hunter Brown.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Hunter Brown's apparently throwing like 96. Ready to come back? He's going to say he's going to say... He's going to probably say, I'm retiring. But he's not going to retire because he's going to want to end the year on the angelus so he gets his full pay. That's what came to my mind. And it's hard for us.
Starting point is 00:52:29 who don't know Lance anything more than a competitor, any more than an athlete to a member of the media. We're not friends with him. He's polite enough as it is. We don't really know him very well. Right. If we were in his shoes, we would say, you know what, I did this while I was playing.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Injuries are a part of the sport. I should deserve every bit of the dollar that I'm going to get. So he's not, I don't think he's going to retire. He may not retire outwardly and say it, but he's probably thinking, I'm going to be on the injured list for quite a period of time. we're 14 games back or we're not in the race, we're seven out.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Why am I doing all this to know that at the end of the day I'm probably not going to pitch anymore this year? And when I do, if I try to, what am I helping out? Am I helping out? And then ultimately, is there a baseball season in 2007? There's just all these things were kind of running through my mind.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah. Which we didn't even mention. Well, you talked a little bit about it with the Jose Al-Tubei pursuit of 3,000, by the way. Yeah, a lot of folks have said that COVID hurt Altuvae, which it did. Only 60 games and he was terrible. Father time did not help.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Never helps. Never. Man, I was better when I was 38 than I was 28. Said no one. It'll be. The lockout, I'll tell you what. The lockout crushes it. If they don't play baseball in 2027, I will go ahead and tell you that Jose will not reach it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Well, they're coming to the negotiating table soon, right? Yeah, they're probably going to go, here's my negotiation. The owners are like, of a salary cap, get away from me. I'm getting optimistic. I am zero optimism whatsoever. As they all know it's coming and they all know we're not going to, they're eventually, the league is not dissolving. No, they're going to play baseball again. That's for sure,
Starting point is 00:54:12 but it's just going to be a matter of how long are we going to wait. You've never been through this as a sportscaster. It's awful. Any kind of lockout? I think there was a brief NFL lockout. But we need to lose games over it. Have you ever been a, A host. Yeah, the NBA, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:33 There was a lockout in... Did we have a lockout? Yes. Since you've been doing the show? Yeah. And it was... When was the last one? I think there was one like in the 2010s.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Wasn't there? Yeah, 2011. So... 66 regular season, 66 games in 11 and 12. Huh. Do you remember that? No. They were playing a billion back-to-backs.
Starting point is 00:54:59 That's true. Okay. nothing is worse Ross to me as a fan of a sport than 94 you had you had pennant races you had the Astros competitive
Starting point is 00:55:16 and Jeff Bagwell was playing to an MVP form yes but he got saved by the strike or a likeout or strike out whatever you want to call it so you're in this heat of the battle it's fun and then they stop Out of nowhere. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And then they don't even finish the season. It was a kick to the nuts. Excuse my French. It was terrible. Yeah. And then they tried to bring out the scabs and try to sell it as baseball's back. And America went, F you on that. I remember there's a story.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I can't remember who it was. There was some scab player that the asteros picked up afterwards. And like apparently Craig Bissio and the guys wouldn't talk to him. Like they froze them out of the clubhouse. Do you remember, is that bringing a bill? Said every strike. NFL players. Greg Cook was a part of a strike in the NFL in the 80s, and they wouldn't talk to those good dudes. No, I understand. And I want to say, maybe 10 players out of that group got jobs in the NFL, and I wonder how long they got it.
Starting point is 00:56:14 But the Texan, the Oilers had a quarterback during their lockout, if I'm not mistaken, named Brett Peace that wanted being a backup for the Texans, came back and played for the main squad. But, yeah, it's like officials, too. Are we copacetic with the officials in the NFL? Are we worried about the story? I don't know what's going on with that. Didn't we see something about that recently? Yeah, a couple of months ago. How they were getting some guys ready? Yeah. Yeah, they're training some guys up.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Remember the last time we had bad officials? It was not great. No, it was terrible. They had the, what did they call it, the fail, Mary? Yeah, and it was a Green Bay Seattle game, the two guys called the guy on the left corner of the end zone. I remember that. Let's talk to Jason and Katie at 1123 on 790.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Jason, good morning and thank you for holding. Good morning, guys. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Is the phone working today? Well, for at least for the next five minutes it is, hopefully. Now, look, all these people talking about Yordon, trade, and all, he's stop already. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I mean, he's on such a good contract. I mean, it's freaking ridiculous. The next person that calls in and says that we need to trade Yordon for pieces or whatever is an idiot. It's just stupid. it. And I don't even know what else to say with that. I mean, I'm with you, Jason. It just doesn't make sense. He's got a couple more years after this one under one of the best contracts in baseball. You want to sign him long term. He's one of the five best hitters in baseball. And you want him here for the rest of his life wearing Astros. I'm wearing an Astros uniform.
Starting point is 00:57:51 For sure. And, you know, hey, one question. First of all, yesterday driving into work, takes me an hour to drive the other side. town. They need to put some more of those little white reflector dots on I can't even see the damn road. And number two, does sports MT stand for sports Mr. Texas? Talk to you all later. That does. Hang up
Starting point is 00:58:14 on this guy. That's not terrible. Hang up on this guy. That's not terrible. Not terrible at all. It's bad. I guess wonderful. Don't add fuel to this fire. I'm going to stamp this bad boy out. if you are going to Dyken Park tomorrow for the
Starting point is 00:58:31 Kingwood High School graduation, I will sign autographs with Mr. Texas if you'd like. I know you're speechless and I'm sorry. Oh, I'm being nice. I'm saying nothing is being nice. It's like your inside, your inside voice is kicked in. I have things to say.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I have things to say. I'm being nice. You're welcome. All right, it's time for people, it's time for, I guess, Ross to tell us to people to shut their bombasses up. Yeah, I like this. 713-212-5-790 7-1-2-2-2-7-190 shut your bum-ass up ain't nobody got time for that for the next half hour
Starting point is 00:59:11 and if you want to squeeze it just don't get it in because that's normally on Thursday but we got to get the shut chills in 7-1-3-212-5-7-90 1131 sports talk 7-90 this is one of the two best parts of the week at least for this radio show I think thirt wednesdays were shut your bum ass up ain't anybody got time for that you just can spat off on people and then Fridays you can apologize for the rude things you said to them. And I will start. 713-212-5-7-90. Ross,
Starting point is 00:59:42 I have a friend that I will protect his friend's in anonymity. I don't think he's listening, but I just don't want to say his name. He is the king of I don't watch something. And then as soon as he says that, there's like a two seconds of dead air followed by a complete description of what he doesn't watch. I'll give you the example. Okay. I don't watch the NBA. Pause, pause, pause.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Do you think the Spurs can beat the Thunder? Right. So I would say to anybody that tells you they don't do something, but yet they then do it, anybody got time for that. Anybody got time for that? Just admit what you do and what you watch. Like, oh, I don't go.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I can't remember the last time I had a wopper at Ruger Ring. And then you see the rappers in the back. Oh. I don't remember. but I mean, I'm not opposed. I just don't know where everyone is. They're all over the place. Not near me.
Starting point is 01:00:40 That's because you drive five minutes to work every day. I am spoiled. When something's like a mile and a half away, I'm like, man, as far. Shit your bum ass up, man. I don't hear that from you. Terrible. All right, so I just, I just find, and again, you know who's guilty of doing what I just said?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Me. Like when I'm in, when I travel. You said you don't watch UFO. Yeah, you're a gambler fan number one. one. Shut your bum ass up. Get your bum ass up, man. You suck. You embarrass us. Go away. My guilt on this
Starting point is 01:01:13 is I don't watch the ESPN shows, but I'm in a hotel, and I'm just laying in the bed getting ready for the show. I'm not driving anywhere, so I pop out and see what's going on headline-wise. And what I'm saying, man, do you see this dumbass crap that Stephen A said or Perk said or any one of the
Starting point is 01:01:29 93 people that are on that show? So I'll tell myself, anybody got time for you telling me what you don't watch and you watch it. So I'm trying to live by my own words and turn me a better person about that. Wow. That's what I got. I'm proud of you. Thank you very, very much.
Starting point is 01:01:44 All right. Let's switch things up. Jonathan, what's the matter with you this week? If you're going, if the NBA playoffs were on and you run a business with TVs and sports, why in the world does someone ask you, oh, can you? you turn the game on. As a manager and employees, why do they not know how to switch the TV?
Starting point is 01:02:11 And I was literally thinking about Matt Thomas yesterday. You should have been. And I was like, I would put my money because I'm sitting there trying to watch me and my girl trying to watch the NBA Western Conference Finals. But they have the Yankees on and they won't switch off of it because they don't know how to. And the worst part was yesterday's
Starting point is 01:02:29 game was on Channel 2. That's what I was trying to tell. I kind of get it If it's on an obscure channel or you have to stream and maybe the restaurant or bar that you have doesn't have the streaming services, I kind of get that. It was on channel two yesterday. But the thing is,
Starting point is 01:02:43 maybe even more upset is they had the NHL playoffs on. They had the Stanley Cup playoffs going on. So why can't we turn on the NBA as well? Why can we have both on? Oh, I have never been so living at a place. That's one of the chill. Ain't nobody got time for that, man. You know what?
Starting point is 01:03:00 Remote for you. That biz. We're got remote? vote for you. We're going to put a patent on this. We're going to, well, the patent's already locked in. Yeah. I think that's floundering.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I'm looking, I'm looking for additional investors. Send me an email to Matt and roll for you. What do they call it? Series A funding or whatever? It's not been going well. I'll take Series A, B, C, I don't care what it is. It's been flightless for 10 years. It's needed, though.
Starting point is 01:03:23 T-shirts are available, by the way. Good luck. Jonathan was just five out. John, thank you so much for having my back on that. Much appreciated. Ross, you got the just. Six out. T-shirts coming? They're just five out.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Maybe after this weekend. Now it's six. Shit your bum-ass up, man. Six and a half against the Angels today. We don't have room for a half, I don't think. It's more characters. It's an asterisk. It's a point and a five.
Starting point is 01:03:48 There you got you. Ross, what's the matter with you? All right, look, I'm going after people on Twitter. First of all, I already mentioned that guy that's like, sports talk personalities love to attack you. When they get something wrong and then it's just semantics and then they crush you when you get something wrong. You don't know me from Adam.
Starting point is 01:04:05 You don't follow me. Shut your bum ass up. Then I got these people. I'm talking about on Twitter about how good Victor Wimbunyama is, which anybody with two eyes can see. And then I got all these conspiracy theories coming after me. Well, this is what happens when the NBA rigs the lottery for San Antonio. That's what we're going with?
Starting point is 01:04:26 The NBA, in their infinite wisdom, rather than rigging it for, I don't know. Teams in L.A. New York, Chicago. They said this generational prospect, who's going to be a global superstar, we're going to put him in San Antonio, Texas. That's where they rigged the lottery. And then the guy kept on arguing that they rigged Stefan Castle to fall to the spurs.
Starting point is 01:04:51 He got picked fourth. And they rigged Dylan Harper. You stupid-ass conspiracy theorists, get out of my mentions. I had to mute the conversation. Shut your bum asses up. Shit, oh, bum-ass-old. Can we just have a little semblance of logic? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I understand there's been some curious stuff, but they allow team executives from every team are in there. They allow media members in the lottery. Yes. And all these media members, reporters don't want to break big stories you're telling me. So they want to break that the thing is rigged. You think every other team, you think Raphael Stone is in that room, and he's like, oh, this is, yeah, rig it for the spurs.
Starting point is 01:05:29 This is great. Let's come on now. Little critical thinking, folks. Thank you very much, Ross. It's your bum ass up, man. Jason on 790 and 1137. Jason, what's the matter with you? Jason was a man, a few words.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Let's go to... That's great stuff, Jason. Thank you, Jason. Brian, what's the matter with you? It's more so, and I just don't get it. I know it's that season and Matt, congratulations to Carly. Thank you. When she gets there and starts in the fall,
Starting point is 01:06:07 she will be the second most famous Rhode Island Ram athlete behind Coutinho Mowgli. Leymar Odom, don't forget him. Lamar Odom, he's more infamous and famous. He's pretty famous too, though. Yeah, I'll go with Harley Thomas ever Lamar Odom.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Thank you very much. But no, what I just don't get, I don't get, and maybe I grew up in a different era, I'm an old Gen Xer or a late, late stage Gen Xer, and maybe it's the fact that I grew up in Catholic school, but when the kindergarten graduations and caps and gowns and second grade graduations become a thing? I mean, we did middle school going into high school.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I get that you're going from adolescence into being a teenager in puberty and all of that kind of kicking in for boys. And then high school, obviously, I get into college and things like, and then obviously post-graduate, but when did kindergarten graduations blow up and become a thing that we're posting caps and gowns for them? We're doing all this hoopla. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And maybe it's me, maybe I'm an old soul, but when did that become a thing? I just don't get it. Thank you very much. All right. The ruling is this, and I have three children within the last 25 years. Kindergarten graduation is okay.
Starting point is 01:07:35 fifth grade education is okay. I'm not sure. I might have had a kindergarten graduation. And high school graduation. Those are the only three graduations that are all acceptable. And the first two are kind of, but I get kindergarten, I get fifth grade, and I get high school.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Junior high graduation doesn't count. And frankly, I've never heard of second grade graduation. That seems excessive. Seems a little much. Pump your breaks, folks. I like how they had the award ceremonies too, and there's all these crazy awards you know. ever even heard of.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Like the Spartan Spirit Award or whatever, this award or that award. Well, in Aldini was just glad you finished award. No, it was actually we did a, it's sharpshooter. Yeah, whoever had the best at target practice. I also believe that you had a, did you not have a running number of best shoplifting awards? No, you had the snatch and grab award. Yeah, that was a good one, yeah. I got you.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And you got sure you kick grandma down when you're snatched the purse. Shit your bum ass up, man. And by the way, tomorrow in Duncan Park, there better not be. anybody running to seats tomorrow at Dinkin Park for graduation? The play seats 40,000. Hey, you got to get those good seats. What are good seats for graduation? Oh, section 121, row three.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Okay. Hey. I'm trying to get the Diamond Club. Ooh, that'd be good. Yeah. Are they going to have the net up? Is Orbit going to be there? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Does Orby handing my daughter her diploma? I don't know. I got another rule. I got another one for y'all. I don't find these videos of kids doing these flip-flops, putting on other shirts, jumping up and down. When you walk across the stage to get your diploma, flip-flops. You know, like somersaults.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Oh, okay. Or, you know, there's-hills a flip-flop. You're not a flip-plot. Doing the handstand, doing the double flip. Just walk across the stage, grab your diploma, shake your principal's hand, and move along. You got to make it about you, man. No, it's not about spectacle. It's all about me.
Starting point is 01:09:38 It's all about me. In the 2026. Let's go, baby. Look at me. It's going to pop off on the ground. Here's a pranth one. Thank you, Ross. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Put them on game. Here's a prerative one. Preemptive one. Any you Kingwood graduates tomorrow want to do backflips? Anybody got time for that and shut your bum ass up? I mean, Matt's right, though, Jonathan. I mean, it's like nobody wants to see. I'm not saying I don't agree.
Starting point is 01:10:00 No, no, I'm just saying. I'm just telling him I get it. I know. And by the way, all you valedictorians are your speeches ready tomorrow. Don't talk about how cruel the world is. Don't talk about how this world wasn't, it's not fair to us.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Talk about how great your high school experience was, the dances, the football games, and how you're looking forward to college. Keep it simple, stupid. And everybody out there, valedictorians, salutatorians, less than five minutes on speeches. That's all I ask. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Exactly. Ain't anybody got time for 25 minutes speeches. Robert and Katie on 790 1142. Robert, what's the matter with you? Oh, man. What I'm tired of, I can't stand is the MLB forcing me to buy tickets through them where they're charging me a service charge. I can't even go to the stadium and buy my own Astro ticket without having a gun in my head
Starting point is 01:10:56 stealing money from me. Service charges, admin fees. And we've got time for any of those. Shut your bum ass up, man. Hold on before you go, Robert, you're talking about walking up to the ticket counter or buying it on Ticketmaster? Yeah. Walking up to the stadium and buying a ticket.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And they still have convenience fees? You can't do that anymore. You can't do that anymore. You got to have an MLB app and you got to go through all that. See, and you know what, Robert? And they're trying to scan your face. I don't, this is weird. Yeah, oh, I saw that, by the way, Jonathan.
Starting point is 01:11:29 You just have to go to a different entrance. Yeah, I don't like it because then they're going to sell your face debt. I don't know what they're doing. You know, Robert. It's bad. Hey, nobody got time for that. I don't even know what's... Shit your bum ass up, man.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I'm sorry, everything's getting worse. What is face data? What is face data? I don't know. Face data is essentially like they... So all these contracts and terms and conditions with the phones and stuff. So like when you use face ID for your phone, they got your... But now it's getting sold to these different apps and...
Starting point is 01:11:56 They can sell it to surveillance companies so they can find you. Like, remember we got these stories? This sounds great. Yeah, they take your face data and then they can sell it to surveillance cameras. And then so they... Companies like apparently Ring has been recorded. Was it Ring or the other? What's the other one? It was ring.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Ring was recording people when they weren't supposed to. And then they'll sell your face data to these, uh, these surveillance companies that the FBI and other people are using. Sounds like a conspiracy theory. As far as I know this is true. And that's how they track down people. They find like that guy, uh, that guy that shot the CEO,
Starting point is 01:12:26 whatever his name is. So there is some value in it. There's some value. But also people who don't need to be getting surveilled and getting arrested are, like, remember I told you that story. The woman in Tennessee got basically air. lifted out of her own house and was in jailed for two months and it was a case of mistaken identity. All right. I know you're not going to want to hear this, Ross. Can we go back to 1978?
Starting point is 01:12:48 I just call it a day. Now, we have the conveniences of the internet. Like, is your internet ever go down for five minutes? You're like, you feel like you can't breathe. So, I mean, I love the internet. So which way do you want to? Probably the old way it's better. 713-212-5-7. If you want to tell somebody to shut their bum ass up, anybody got time for that. And we'll even squeeze in a few. I just don't get it. All right. Gambler Jim is on the line and we really don't want to take his call. So if literally anybody else wants to call in to talk about what they're mad about,
Starting point is 01:13:24 tell them to shut their bum ass up, ain't nobody got time for that. 713-212-5-790. Jonathan, is there anything else in your life? I mean anything else to delay the inevitable of Jim calling in. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. You know, put me on a spot Now if you don't have anything
Starting point is 01:13:43 That's fine But can you make something up You know I can make something up I don't understand Why No I can't do it guys I don't know Okay you got nothing
Starting point is 01:13:53 You got nothing Mike Burroughs giving up runs with two outs Ain't anybody got time for that Oblique injuries Ain't nobody got time for that Good Hoseau Tube not getting into 3,000
Starting point is 01:14:04 Because of a lockout Ain't nobody got time for that Okay C Lopping and the NBA is letting that just go ahead. They like that product. And nobody got time for that. She only went to the line six times, but I saw a montage. Literally all of his shot attempts he flopped on.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Exactly. Jalen Williams hamstring injury, ain't nobody got time for that. Dylan Harper injury. Ain't nobody got time for that. This is supposed to be the Goliath versus Goliath. Everybody's getting hurt. The city of Houston not caring about the NBA right now. Anybody got time for that either?
Starting point is 01:14:37 I've been talking about the Spurs and the, Thunder on these the Twitter streets and getting some getting some track. That makes me happy. People talking about it. It makes me happy. Ross, anything else for you,
Starting point is 01:14:47 my friend. I mean, little anything else. I think I'm good. Was it this week or last week? Our phones went down for like 36 hours. Ain't nobody got time for that?
Starting point is 01:14:57 Oh, I went to a drive-thru this week. Oh, what was my age? I just don't get it. You said you were going to... Oh, about the Instagram, Insta of whatever. What are these instas? Jonathan, we need the young man to explain this to us.
Starting point is 01:15:07 It's like Snapchat, but it's on Instagram? So it's... Essentially, when I read up on it is if you ever use your Instagram camera, you go to the camera on your Instagram and you use it, it will instantly put on an instant, whatever they're calling it, instant on the side. Yeah. Why? It's just like, I guess keep up. But the only thing that's different about it is that someone can react to it and nobody will know that. So Ross, you put an instant and I like liked it.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Uh-huh. Well, can I like your story and nobody knows? Is he the thing? Yes. Okay, good. So I thought when I put the drool single on the story, I didn't know everybody could see that. What are you sending out? I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Are you, though? Yes. Matt looks like you as disappointed father. No, it's, I don't believe him, father. It's a joke. To the person at the drive-thru at the fast food place I went to, few days ago because I won a little midday snack that the screen
Starting point is 01:16:12 was not working and the woman did not say welcome to this place walk come up so I drove right to the window and ordered and she was put off by that if you don't answer and the screen is down how long did you wait? Probably three minutes I swear again. Three minutes on
Starting point is 01:16:30 angry mat time is how much of three minutes angry mat time is real time Jonathan? Like maybe 35 seconds to Ross and Jonathan, shut y'all bum asses up. Shit your bum ass up, man. The screen is down. I'm assuming that maybe the drive-thru would be down.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Absolutely. The screen was blank. Did you give a hello? I said, hi. You didn't say anything. Did you say hello to the speaker? Yeah, I said, hello, y'all there, and nothing happened. Okay. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Then that's good. And that's a God's honest truth. And where were you? Ruger ring. Oh. Okay, that's fine. That makes sense. Now, if you're at Rachos, you're going to have to wait about five to seven minutes,
Starting point is 01:17:07 and they will punch you in the throat. The order was. It was a simple order. It wasn't even a hard order. It was I got a robber junior and a large unsweet tea. Now, what neighborhood were you in? 59 and like Aldine mail route. You better be careful.
Starting point is 01:17:23 You better be careful. You're talking crazy out there. They're packing. They call it Historic East Aldine. Yeah. I'm not talking about onion ring sauce either. It's getting zesty, though. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Nobody else is calling. Jim, what do you need? Yeah, ain't nobody got time for that. Shut your bum ass up. Ain't nobody got time for that? Shut your bum ass up, man. Hashtag bring Gambler Jim back. Anything else?
Starting point is 01:17:57 That's it. That was it. James, he called five times today. You see, that's why we didn't want to take the call. It's a horrible call. I would say who's the worst call, gambler, Jim, or our buddy? You know. who?
Starting point is 01:18:12 Who? The man that you hate that you fight with? Chase McCart- McCarty Brendan McCurry. I forgot the guy's name. Chase McCarty? What is Bernie McCurry doing right now?
Starting point is 01:18:25 I don't know. I'm wishing him the best. Brad? Brad? If you have to, you have to have drinks with Brad or Gambor Jim, where are you going with?
Starting point is 01:18:35 I've had drinks with Brad. I know. He's not that bad in person. He's not. Brad hasn't called in a couple of weeks. I ran into him at... He called me on the 10th thing other night. He was at one of our remotes somewhere.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Yeah, he comes and he supports our stuff. No, recently. Ice House? Is that we all right? Was it? Was it a rocket thing? Oh, he came to the draft party. That was nice.
Starting point is 01:18:54 And he didn't recognize him. Remember he's working as Mall Santa? So he's got a big beard. So Brad is now the second worst caller. I think Gambor Jim's number one. No, Brad's been added for like 20 years. Oh, so Jim's got some work to do. Yeah, this is like you calling Wimby the goat over Elijah one.
Starting point is 01:19:09 You got to give it a little more time. Hey, nobody got time for. Who is a higher ceiling? Well, that's what I'm saying. Jim's got a high ceiling here. He does. And he's flashed a lot. Steve, what's the matter with you, Steve?
Starting point is 01:19:24 Nothing. Not a thing in the world. I am perfect. Oh, great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great.
Starting point is 01:19:31 There is really chaffing me. N-D-N-A-C-P coming black athletes to boycott A-C and SEC school. SEC schools telling black people not to go to FCC and ACC football games. Shut your bum ass up. Yeah, that was... I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I did not read it. I saw the headline and I'll be brutally honest with you. I moved along because it sounded completely preposterous. I did not see that story. Well, you can break it down for the news of noon. Then we'll get a better than same. Oh, no. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 01:20:08 That sounds awful. What did you know? I want to get educated on the matter. Let me see. We're educated at first. There's an AP story. Here's what it is. NAACP and congressional black caucus are calling on black athletes and fans to boycott
Starting point is 01:20:25 the athletic programs of public universities in states that are taking steps. The nation's oldest civil rights group says are, quote, restricting black voting rights. NAACP is calling out schools in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, in South Carolina is states to boycott, arguing that the athletic programs of those states, major universities,
Starting point is 01:20:45 are especially reliant on black athletic talent and should protect black political interests. So, Steve, just so we get this done and it's been squashed because I was a black NCAA athlete.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You were? Yes. Are you black? Oh, very. I'm a definition. You cannot be saying that and letting these quote unquote white handlers
Starting point is 01:21:05 of the athletic directors and all these big people that make so much money off these athletes. And then take away the voting rights and then just, oh yeah, we yeah, still send your kids and you make it money for us, but we don't get voting rights. We're just going to watch it at that. That was a dumb take and you shouldn't call back again or anything. That was just, that was just plain out stupid.
Starting point is 01:21:32 I'm going to be honest. I don't, I know there was a recent decision about the redistricting. I don't know what's going on with that. No more politics. Yeah, we're out. We're down with politics. That's all we got to say. ignorance on the matter. And I'm going to, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:21:45 plead we're never going to talk about anymore. This exact reason. We're done. Let's talk about the Astros instead. That'll get everybody fired up. Hey, Astros, bats, come back. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Spending all my nights,
Starting point is 01:22:09 all my money, going out on the town. Pitch by Burroughs. Swinging a miss. I fastball gets him at 97, Walker down on strikes. That's 15 strikeouts for twins pitchers, which ties the most in a game by the Astros this season. And the Astros are down to their final out.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Astro bats! Only six-pack. Five to six sounds. Did you just say that? I mean, it's not the truth. It's May 21st. And there's six back already. I just can't live without you after.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Thankfully, they're in a crappy division. Yeah, the A's won, though, yesterday. That's not great. Yeah, they're 500. okay you can't be blaming everybody else oh man the A's win we just can't keep up they're playing 500 ball
Starting point is 01:23:17 you'd be in first place tied if you were playing 500 ball that's all we're asking for Astros come on man oh James is blowing up our IG account yeah he only follows Dan guess what he doesn't follow me doesn't even follow me oh let me see if he follows me I'm glad that's good if he unfollowed you
Starting point is 01:23:35 I don't think you ever followed me to begin with Oh. Yeah, you can't. Oh, no, wait. He doesn't follow me. Don't send us measures on IG unless you follow us. Oh, James, I'm going to block you, bro. I'm sorry, James, you're going.
Starting point is 01:23:49 It's been real. Block. Ouch. Oh, poor James. Get on that Gamer website. Get in some gambit talk. Are you okay? No.
Starting point is 01:24:02 No, he doesn't follow me. I don't follow him back. It's fine. I blocked him. We'll call it even. It's fine. I don't mind talking. I actually said love you, Jane, but he didn't love me back.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Well, you guys are beefing hard. It used to be me and James were beefing. Yeah, y'all are beefing the last, what, in two months? See, the beef goes way back, because James was like, when the Longhorns made the playoff, and then they lost to Washington, he's like, why are people talking about the Longhorns made the playoffs? They were nobody to the playoffs, and then they did. James was wrong.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Well, again, really your top three, your Arthur's, your... No, Arthur's number one, worse than all time, because he's literally a crazy person. Correct. Hey, it's 1207. Okay. People need to recap what happened yesterday at Target Field in Minneapolis. Well, Matthew, I'm glad you said something. Let's time.
Starting point is 01:24:42 The news at noon. For the news at noon, this is Hallie-Tobby. He had a talk in Syracuse Broadcasting School. Yes, Matthew, the Astros lose two out of three in Minneapolis. I can't tell myself. It hurts on it. Show Ryan dazzled as he threw six innings of one-run ball. That is a quality start.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Nine strikeouts as well. Mike Burroughs did give up a three-run shot. Other than that, pretty good as he threw six innings of four earned run ball. Three walks, couple of strikeouts. ERA, though, on the year 5.75. You got basically nothing from the lineup. You got five hits. All of them, singles.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Not a single extra base hit. Didn't even really get many opportunities with runners in scoring position or guys on base. You also drew zero walks throughout the game. Paredes, Alvarez, Walker, Myers, all 0 for four in the heart of the lineup, Matthew. The Astros offense for about five weeks has sucked. It's been a bad five weeks. Ten runs against Cincinnati and what? A bunch of twos, threes, and one since then?
Starting point is 01:25:57 Actually, they had four. We went on Saturday. Is it time for a hitting coach change? It's been tough five weeks for the hitting coaches. I'm wondering if there needs to be a change with the hitting coaches. Yeah, where are those hitting coach calls coming in? They did the change, and it hadn't changed. Where are those calls?
Starting point is 01:26:12 They're ninth in Team OPS. But you know what? You're using the first month of the year. I'm sorry. I'm not using a lot of counts. Don't act like it doesn't count. Those runs count they're on the board. The most important stat to me is the W and the L's.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And there are way too many L's. W and the L's. W and the L's. Are you okay? And I'm just, hey, we're only a six-pack. Well, what about runs per game? You want that one? Sure, why not?
Starting point is 01:26:39 Hold on. Maybe you don't. Is this true? Where? How did this happen? They're 18th and runs per game. Out of how many? 30.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Uh-huh. They were like top five all season. Well, you keep looking at the season numbers. I'm going to give you the last three weeks. You want some three-week numbers? No, I don't. Well, you were you the next step? That's the last thing I want.
Starting point is 01:27:01 No, I don't want that. You're going to get it anyway. Sorry. Well, Team OPS, their ninth. They must be having some bad luck, man. What is their expected runs? Jonathan, come in here and hit him. What?
Starting point is 01:27:11 Oh, are they? You know they have the expected field goal percentage now in the NBA, too, based on where the shot locations are? Yes, the number of times I brought up during a broadcast. Zero. I don't know. XERA, they talk about XERA and X-FIP and stuff like that on the Space City Home Network. Well, because I'm Rockets Radio. I don't do that.
Starting point is 01:27:28 All right, here we go. Since May 1st, Astro run count. 1, 6, 5. Three, three, one, two, ten. That was Cincinnati. One, one, zero, one, two, four, three, two, four, zero, three, two, two, four, zero, three. What are you doing? Are you giving us your social security number?
Starting point is 01:28:00 One. Say it again. No, no, I'm not writing down. I'm not saying again. No chance. Start over. Not doing it. Can you start that?
Starting point is 01:28:06 I'll run that back. No, no, no, no, no. I think people know. People, even like people are like, I don't know watching more, you're watching still. But you know. What else's going on?
Starting point is 01:28:21 The Thunder bounced back against the San Antonio Spurs. You just made me sad. 122 to 113 series squared away at one apiece. Unfortunately, what was supposed to be Goliath versus Goliath? Guys dropping like flies.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Jaylon Williams coming back game one from a hamstring injury gets hurt in game two. He only played seven minutes in game two. The Thunder still able to win. Dylan Harper also hurt, and of course Deeran Fox remains out with his ankle injury. It's like a war of attrition in the NBA playoffs
Starting point is 01:28:51 as guys are dropping like flies. But the Thunder able to get the win. Victor Wimbonyama, a quiet 21 points and 17 rebounds. Also had six assists, four block shots. Wait a minute. 21 and 17 is quiet? For him, that's a job. It's being a joke, man. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Relax. No, I'm saying if it's quiet, that means we're in trouble. That's what I'm saying. That's the point I'm trying to make. Okay. Sorry, I didn't catch on. Okay. Shaggildjus, Alexander, 30 points, nine assists.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Did go to the free throw line just six times. 12 of 24, so a bounce back game from him as the Thunder were able to defeat the spurs in game number two. They now head to the San Antonio, wherever the hell they're calling that place now. It's not AT&T anymore, is it? Ross Rank Center. That's right. Ross Rank Center. And tonight you got Cavaliers.
Starting point is 01:29:38 and Knicks game number two, Nicks minus five and a half. Let me tell you about how nice I am. How nice are you, Matt? We've got family coming in this weekend from San Antonio. And Saturday night, we're having everybody come to the house, or Friday night, whatever the next game is.
Starting point is 01:29:55 I was going to say, if you have them Saturday night, they're going to be sorely disappointed. Friday night, we are going to get big city wings, and we're going to cater our little party to watch the Spurs play the Thunder. That's beautiful. Because we've got a lot of Spur fans coming into town. I can do that as a voice of the Rockets.
Starting point is 01:30:09 I can still do it. I don't even know who to rule for, actually. No, it's indifferent. Complete indifference. I don't want the Thunder to win. I don't want the Spurs. Just be an NBA observer. Do I want Cowboys fans happy?
Starting point is 01:30:21 Now, obviously they're Mavix fans, but the Spurs fans are also Cowboys fans. Oh, then we're reading for the Thunder then. That's what I'm saying. I mean, Shade Gilder's Alexander's a foul baiter, but there's like 10 foul biters in a day. They've already got five to the Rockets, too. You want them getting six? We want no part of that. Do you really want San Antonio fan happy?
Starting point is 01:30:38 Answer that question. Go, Thunder, go. All right, and we come back. We will get into something we forgot to talk about in the first early portion of show. Aaron Rogers is going to call it a career. Where do we put them on the legacy chart? We'll discuss that next 1214. It is Matt and Ross.
Starting point is 01:30:53 It's Sports Talk 790. If you want to chime in on the conversation, your name is not James. I mean, it's your James, it could be James, but if it's like, if you're not talking gambler, football, or making stupid rhymes. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212. 5-7-90. Okay, so Aaron Rogers says that this is it. 22 years in the NFL?
Starting point is 01:31:21 Can't be that long. How long has he been in the NFL? We should know this. Are we doing hell yeah or not about... Yeah, I thought he was drafted in 0-4, right? Has it been that long? Good God. No, no, internet's not working.
Starting point is 01:31:38 By the way, which one of you wished Was bragging about the phone lines working all week? You shut your bum ass up Me? Yeah Are they down? Well, no, I'm saying Shit your bum ass up, man
Starting point is 01:31:49 My phone is always down here MyFi is working up So you shut your bum ass up Now the Wi-Fi is back All right, there we go It was a 2005 draft Whatever, 20 years So multiple-time MVP winner
Starting point is 01:32:03 Mm-hmm One-time Super Bowl champion Four-time MVP. That's a lot. That's a lot. Not that Super Bowl participation and or wins should count in the big picture because that would be Damarino would be way off the list. What do we do here on this one?
Starting point is 01:32:25 What are we putting Aaron? Okay, well, you want to just do this? We might as well. The Astros ain't going to carry us here. Okay. We'll just say Aaron Rogers or. Okay, so we go down the list. I just got a top 25 all-time list from NFL.com.
Starting point is 01:32:45 So right now. Tom Brady. Right now Tom Brady is on the Mount Rushmore and there's no one taking him off. Okay. Aaron Rogers or Joe Montana? Ooh, there's a pause. And you've been a Joe Montana.
Starting point is 01:32:59 You held on to Joe Montana even over Brady for a while. Until, of course, Brady kept winning. We've been doing the show a long time. Aaron Rogers, way flashier stats. Joe Montana bigger clutch performer Aaron Rogers Who had the better
Starting point is 01:33:17 Career or who's the better quarterback? Also I guess what's the definition Who's the better quarterback? Who would you rather have on your team? Joe Montana or Aaron Rogers? Joe Montana I'm not even looking at you. Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 01:33:29 Peyton Manning Peyton Manning Easy for me Peyton Manning Okay this one's kind of hard But I mean Johnny Unitis I don't know We can't use him
Starting point is 01:33:41 We can't okay Aaron Rogers or Otto Graham We're going to skip that one Let's talk about guys we've actually Drew Breeze Aaron Rogers I'm with you on that
Starting point is 01:33:52 Oh okay Can you hear that As Cordy's coming down the hall Cordy's not even here He's having lunch at the touchdown club Send him to Drew Breez now baby Now come on now Look at a stat 5,000 yard season now baby
Starting point is 01:34:08 They like to point to Drew Bees' defense for why he went like seven to nine every year. But then they don't point to that way. That's why he threw for 5,000 yards every year. He wouldn't have thrown for 5,000 yards 50 times. Their defense was good. All right, here's one for you. You can't have it both ways.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Here's one. Okay. Expected finishing career of Pat Mahomes. Oh, shut up. I'll still go Mahomes. But, I mean, honestly, Aaron Rogers is like, Mahomes like Aaron Rogers, especially young people. These youngans like Jonathan don't realize how mobile he was young in his career.
Starting point is 01:34:40 that's not true I played 08 Madden Oh there you go O8 Madden he was moving wasn't he That justifies everything All right Dean Marino Probably Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 01:35:02 Aaron Rogers John Elway Again we're crossing eras again I will go with By the other The quarterbacks we're talking about Are quarterbacks that we've seen There are splitting hairs
Starting point is 01:35:22 There's generation of great quarterbacks We never saw play We never saw a Johnny you play. Roger Staubach. It's on this top list. Terry Bradshaw. They have Aaron Rogers 10 on this list that I pulled up from NFL.com. Okay, so let's go.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Behind Elway. Let's go the nine in front and then give me the three behind him. We did all of them ahead. I mean, I skipped Stobach and Sammy Ball and Otto Graham. Behind him at 11, they have, yeah, I'm sorry, they're Sammy Ball. They have Favre, Favre or Rogers? Rogers, agree. Bart Star
Starting point is 01:35:58 Okay No answer on that one Troy Akeman Oh Rogers Easily Steve Young Ooh My God
Starting point is 01:36:09 Steve Young or Aaron Rogers If I need to win a big game I'm going Steve Young Better passer Aaron Rogers Up there Better runner Steve Young This is terrible
Starting point is 01:36:30 This is absolutely terrible We are taking a Hall of Fame first ballot quarterback And we are downplaying him against seven or eight other amazing quarterbacks Maybe even nine or ten amazing quarterbacks I think he's top five-ish to me Brady, Montana, Manning I think that's a one, two, three I'm not I'm gonna stick with that I have him ahead of Breeze
Starting point is 01:36:57 I don't know if a guest throw Johnny you in there I don't freaking know and Marino Marino's splitting hairs Marino's toss up to me Elway's a toss up to me so what we've deduced here in this conversation is that he is
Starting point is 01:37:13 one of the ten greatest quarterbacks ever to play yes indisputably in my mind four time MVP you can't you can't argue with that I believe that's at least as many
Starting point is 01:37:27 or if not more than Tom Brady how old was he won when he won this last one he was pretty old no I think so Tom Brady three-time MVP. Can you believe... Peyton Manning, I believe, five. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Can you believe that Dr. that Peyton Manning and Tom Brady won Super Bowls with other teams super late in their career? Granted, Peyton Manning was garbage in Denver for the most part. Oh, he had that 50 touchdown
Starting point is 01:37:56 or 60 touchdown season in... But was that the Super Bowl season, though? No, it wasn't. Okay. That was when they got trashed by Seattle 40 to 8 or something. Oh, trust me. I was there for that Denver Houston game where Manning broke the record. His first year in Denver, he was, I mean, he was electric.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Yeah. But towards the end, he was not particularly good. He was bad in the last year. Yeah. I think he wanted to say he had a negative touchdown interception. Do you guys understand, and ladies two, that Tom Brady went to Tampa just to kind of extend his career, and he goes there the first year and he wins a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:38:28 That's not, that's like Willie Mays leaving the Giants to go to play for the Mets. the very end and help the Mets win a World Series. That may be a dated reference and I apologize. I mean, Emmett Smith going to the Cardinals and leading them to the Super Bowl. Well, yeah. They also had a great defense, by the way, and both of the chief tackles were hurting that Super Bowl,
Starting point is 01:38:49 just saying. So you're downplaying it then? I'm not downplay, I'm saying it's a team game. Okay, I got you. But it's still pretty incredible. They went to a new uniform. Tom Brady also had Bill Belichick the greatest defensive coach of all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:00 I mean, these things all to require context. All right. So let's do this and to wrap up the segment. How do you think he'll do in his last season? Do you think he's going to go out with a bang, a whimper, you get hurt? 20 touchdowns, 10 picks. About what he did last year. He was okay.
Starting point is 01:39:14 He could make a couple of throws. You were like, oh, man, that's the old Aaron Rogers right there. And then, oh, for the balance of it, he's not going to be that good. Texans versus Steelers Monday night football, right? Texan the night. I know it's a night game. Did you see what the Texans defense did it? They made him look completely lost.
Starting point is 01:39:31 He was like, don't hit me anymore. I'm tired of getting destroyed. Yeah, he quit. Just kidding. We are losing a great one. Yeah. Let's see, I'm trying to pull it up last year. 10 and 6 is a starter.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Oh, you know what? He had a better ratio than I thought. 24 touchdown, 7 picks. That's not terrible. You'll take 3 to 1. Yeah. I wasn't C.J. Stroud 19 and 8? A certain NFL team in this town would take 3 to 1.
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Starting point is 01:40:58 I know the last three or four years have not true to him very well. and then we got bumped out of New England or out of Green Bay for Jordan Love and the Jets experiment didn't last particularly well but Pittsburgh's been okay and he should be I mean at least I here's the thing is that is he going to be one of those guys
Starting point is 01:41:16 that really is going to say I'm done done or is he going to do this five or six retirement bit thing. I think he's going to be done. I mean he's 42 this is it this is it for Aaron Rogers how's his dating tree Danica Patrick and the real good one Who's with Olivia Munn?
Starting point is 01:41:36 I'm big Olivia Munn fan. I thought he's got a wife or something, right? Yeah, but we know who that is. He's going to keep her under wraps. There were some reports of who it was and it was erroneous. I don't care. Look, if he says he doesn't want anybody to, he wasn't going to be in the public, like who would go tracking her down?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Have you met America? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like, yeah. I don't care. I don't care. If he doesn't want to say, that's fine. He, you know, he's broskees with McAfee, which hits him down, drops him down a few pegs on my own list. I know you love McAfee.
Starting point is 01:42:10 You know what, Pat McAfee doesn't bother me on college game day. His show is obnoxious, but, you know, I don't watch it because we're on the air opposite. Yeah, they do the alternate broadcasts on some of the games. I don't watch that either. No, I do love the kick thing. The broskeys love Pat McAfee. It's funny. And I don't if it's because I'm watching sports through my son's eyes, lenses a little bit.
Starting point is 01:42:32 He loves that four or five years ago. He loved that kind of stuff. Like he was huge into barstool, huge into the McAfee. And then he's grown tired of it. And it's not because of my influence because we don't even really don't even talk much about sports broadcasting. But I wonder if that kind of sports entertainment just has a certain shelf life. Like I'm very proud of the fact that you and I have had this run-to-year-old. together and when we have a lot more still ahead of us here, but we've been able to consistently
Starting point is 01:43:06 keep this thing going, and it's very difficult to do so. Yes, highly successful. Is a McAfee, is a bar stool, what else is there that's kind of outrageous? John Boy kind of stuff. Yeah, John Boy is, I don't know what's going on. They had the partnership with MLB recently. Does that ultimately run its course? I'll give you another example. Jim Rome, for a very long period of time, was a very super hot radio host. And then And then Matt Thomas in the middays crushed him in Houston. They call you the Jim Rome killer. You don't know this, John.
Starting point is 01:43:39 This is before you were like waddling around in diapers. Jim Rome was king in this town. And then this guy named Matt Thomas came in the middays, crush him in the ratings. And then the other station that was carrying him had to readjust. The Rome killer, Matt Thomas. The point being is that everybody has their shelf life. And that's why this show, like every other show has to evolve
Starting point is 01:43:58 and have to get into different things. I mean, this show will end. it will end I'd like it to be on my time now it's on somebody else's time right right right right can I give you the Gen Z point of view on this like please
Starting point is 01:44:09 we talked about the Amazon Prime with Dirk and you know Which is great by the way But nobody sees it Because people complain about trying to find it But yeah Yeah but so the ratings have been good When I had watched it for the first time
Starting point is 01:44:19 And I had like you know Set there in a halftime One of these games I was like dude This is what I missed When we watched sports games Like people just talking ball I'm breaking out of sport
Starting point is 01:44:27 Because it's so much deeper than what it is now portraying the media and you have the first takes and you have, you know, the Stephen A. Smith and the McCab, you know, it's being missed. The same way y'all say we're in a nostalgia era, I think Gen Z as well as missing that. They want that in their sports back again because it's gotten too much, especially with social media. Yeah, I'm hoping that things swing back at least to a little bit of normalcy. What do you want normalcy-wise?
Starting point is 01:44:53 Not everything's a hot take. Not everything was two people screaming at the top of their lungs saying that they're right and everybody's wrong. and I'm infallible and I'm perfect. See, in my point of you, boys, and I'm agreeing with you, I think it's getting worse because now you have athletes current and past that are running to a podcast studio swearing at the top, every fifth word saying that kind of stuff. Not only are you not only hot taking it, but you are doing it with swear words, which adds accent to it and it also makes it more viral. the average person is not watching I'll give you an example Fred Van Vleet's got a podcast
Starting point is 01:45:33 No one's watching 45 minutes of Fred Van Vleet They're watching to catch the 30 seconds Where Fred Van Vleet drops an F bomb on somebody And says somebody is trash And I like Fred a lot Matter of fact I tease him I said what are you doing trying to get into my world And he's like man it's this not my word
Starting point is 01:45:47 I'm just until I get back to playing I mean I don't know I'd have to check the viewership I don't know But that's athletes in general Everybody wants to go run their podcast so they can say something so crazy that they get the views. No one's looking to put a podcast together to put together a quality show.
Starting point is 01:46:03 That's why, again, the number one misconception about athletes are, well, you never play the game. Well, then come do 20 hours already a week. Then you can do it. If you can do it, and you can also play the game, I applaud you. Matt, you made a very good point. I don't know if it's today or yesterday, but just because you play the sport does not mean you understand it.
Starting point is 01:46:22 Oh, my God. Or can communicate. And I've seen it just in the ice where I was in. There's so many track athletes that even got to the professionals that they don't even know what they're doing. It comes to in the workouts, this and that. They're just athletes. They're falling what the coach tells them they do it and they're great at it. Doesn't mean they can break down the game as better as a sport or Matt Thomas can't or Rossville.
Starting point is 01:46:42 You know what I mean? So I agree with that point. Yeah. Look, I have my weaknesses and my strength. I know what mine are. And I kind of kind of try to stay in my lane on that. the thing that probably bothers a lot of people is you were talking about the Amazon stuff
Starting point is 01:47:00 and apparently Dirt Noviceky is really good and Steve Nash is on. I think Steve Nash is also on there. Griffin is on there, Blake Griffin from the Clippers and he's been... I don't know how they keep affording this. That's a lot. That's a lot. The range is pretty good, apparently.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Yeah, the numbers are really good. Around 5 million viewers. And apparently it's been a younger audience as well with the prime video. And the number one thing that they've said they like about that is that those guys talk about the game and say, hey, look at how this guy did this as compared to Shacking Kenny and Charles,
Starting point is 01:47:31 as entertaining as they are. Their default is, that was awful. These guys suck and can't wait for their season to end. Wow, I'm just looking now. Game 1 of Thunder Spurs, 9.2 million viewers. Most watch Western Conference game 1 final in league history. That's great news. Peaked to 12 million.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Of course, they're adding NBC. and Peacock, but those are people are watching on NBC. Yeah, I mean, if you're not including streaming numbers, now you're silly. When we rate our radio station, we include our streaming numbers to that. That's out of the ordinary. So, that's fine. Highest average since 1997,
Starting point is 01:48:09 16% increase over last year, but also every league you're hearing has increased numbers because Nielsen has gotten more into the streaming numbers, which is good. And the way they measure today is different than the way they measured five or ten years ago. And also, by the way, it did help out that the, The game was amazing.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Yes. Word traveled fast. How's the NBA is a dying guy doing hearing these numbers? I guess it since 1997. It's the guy that tells me he doesn't watch the NBA and then ask me about the Oklahoma City's San Antonio game. That's the creature habit, though. Like, I don't go to that restaurant. I mean, I got some of the sour cream and chive potatoes.
Starting point is 01:48:46 They were delicious. All right. 1243 Sports Talk 797-1-3-212-5-70. The one studio show I don't like particularly. Carmelo and Vince don't do it for me on NBC. They look like they're just there. Yeah, I mean, it's... It's just not a lot of energy.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Part of his star power. Yeah. Part of his star power. 1243, Sports Talk, 790. 1250, Sports Talk, 790. We'll get back to a little Astor chatter on the top of the next hour. Little NBA as well. And the debate rages on, Rossi, about whether or not we go to an
Starting point is 01:49:28 expanded playoff format right and out. Everybody is stuck. Lines are being drawn. SEC says no to a 24. ESPN's like, yeah, yeah. Meanwhile, Fox, TNT, Apple, Netflix,
Starting point is 01:49:44 ACC, Big 12, everybody else like, Big 10. Yes, we need to go to 24. I honestly, like, honestly, I might have been in the minority. I liked four. 12 I get, but that's where I would max it up. If I were commissioner of college football commissioner, I would max it at 12.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I like 12. I love 8. Eight makes sense, but you get no buys. I do like home stadium too. And I know that's what I'm saying. You get 12 is you get to home stadium. But only for four teams, though. You get a buy.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Oh, the second round? Yeah, I guess the second round is in home games. How about the second? Okay, if I'm commissioner. Ooh. So, yeah, the second round continue. You get the four buys and the four by team. get home games.
Starting point is 01:50:28 So everybody gets at least one little taste of a home game. I don't disagree. Don't you want to play? Wouldn't it be, if you were at the University of Texas and you get to play, I don't know, not only do you get a home game in the playoff, but you get to bring in a heavyweight like,
Starting point is 01:50:41 I don't know, UCLA or something like that. Less burden on the fans to be traveling all around the country. Yeah. Chasing around and going to Georgia, you're going to New Orleans, you're going everywhere. Because you got, I mean, this is what will happen. It's like, yeah, they're the, I remember the last couple of years,
Starting point is 01:50:56 it's like, hey, do we want to go to the SEC championship game in Atlanta? I don't hold off. And then, oh, this game's over here and then this game's over there. This game's in Dallas. We'd go to this one. The tickets are like $1,000 apiece. You end up dropping $10,000 in a season. Do you know who doesn't care about your argument?
Starting point is 01:51:14 Is March Madness fan? March Madness fan has decisions to make, too. Been doing it for a lot longer, too, actually. Yeah. Think about this, if you are, and I'll just use University of Houston example, if you thought your team was worthy of a final four, Are you skipping the first round region or going to the second round region
Starting point is 01:51:28 and all that kind of stuff? And then you risk going and they lose. As they have every time. It's tough. That felt like a little bit of a dig at the end. It wasn't a dig. I'm just saying this is like I went to the Washington and Texas game
Starting point is 01:51:41 and the Superdome and they lost. And I sat next to the band the whole time. They're blaring trombones, barren blaring in my ear. Wait, who choked? I said they lost. Oh, no, the choke would be, that would be Houston against Florida.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Is that what you're talking about? No, I was just, I was just like, yeah. You didn't need to add anything. I didn't get something to that. No, no, no, sir. Not necessary at all. Well, Washington tried to choke that game.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Quinn yours could make a throw to A.D. Mitchell in the right. So in the 24 format, if you are a top eight, you're still not playing any more games than you normally will. We're just adding another layer of games, correct? You're playing more than top... Wait. No, you're playing more than top four. right now you're top four you play the
Starting point is 01:52:29 quarter final semi-final final now if you're at 16 that's a round of 16 then a quarter-finer semifinal final so it is an extra game you got to win four games now even as a top eight you're just going to be variance
Starting point is 01:52:42 you're not going to get the best it's like any tournament now you don't always get the best team that wins at all the NFL the best team doesn't win it all every year so right now on the board my put your name on it never being a 24 team tournament is still in play at this point Never 20, more than 20. Is that what, okay.
Starting point is 01:52:57 Well, yeah, I can't imagine being a 20 team term. It'd be silly. That would be top four get a buy and 16 played it. Yeah, that's a really awkward group. Yeah, I think they did 20 in FCS for a while, right? Maybe FCS still is. I'm not FCS guy. All right, let's get Cole Thompson in here.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Colwyn, no. Colman, though. Colan was all things. College. Yeah. Hmm. 12 is really good. It makes sense. Yeah, oh, they were briefly 20 in FCS.
Starting point is 01:53:35 From 2010 to 2012, it's been 24. COVID was 16 and then back to 24. Is the F.Ping going to finally... Here's how... Is the SEC trying to protect its relationship with ESPN, or is the SEC trying to protect itself because they want their championship game? Because there's no way you can play a 24-team tournament and have a championship.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Yes and yes. SEC wants to be king. Big Ten's like, hey, man, we're going to dominate college football. And SEC's going, we? We? Excuse me? It's funny because the Big Ten thinks they're like best friends with the SEC. And the SEC's like, yeah, we're pals, but I don't know who like that.
Starting point is 01:54:24 It's like you know somebody who calls everybody their buddy and they're not really. That's what the Big Ten and SEC is right now. Oh man, you're my best friend. I'm your what? The Iowa State AD, and I'm going to paraphrase here, there was rumors. People talking about, you know, if the Big Ten and the SEC were to just split off.
Starting point is 01:54:42 I'm like, you know what? She's like, go do it. See how much fun it would be. You may be able to collect all this money when it comes to football revenue, but you won't be able to get anything close to the basketball. You succeed? We're not going to let you play in the NCAA tournament.
Starting point is 01:54:56 You're not going to get a piece of that billion dollar pie. I don't know. It feels like to me, every commissioner, every president, every athletic director is getting to the, let's get, let's say something to spite, get people really mad at us and get attention seeking headlines. Can we just keep it as is and just enjoy the incredible wealth that everybody's getting out of this? No, I mean, not everyone. Push for more. More, more, more, more, more, more, more, money, money, money, money, money, money. I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:55:30 that's just how things go. Oh, oh, the big dog. Big dog. He was saying you had some things wrong about the SEC, by the way. Well, there's a zero surprise. What I get wrong? Chris Gordy's here to save the show. The SEC has not publicly stated what their stances on a playoff.
Starting point is 01:55:47 They're going to meet in Destin next week for their SEC meetings and decide. But several coaches have come out publicly and said they are 4.24. That's because the American Football Coaches Association also they're up for 20. Right. Which Clark Lee is the head of of Vanderbilt. He said yes. A few other coaches, Brad Vettables. Kirby Smart has been vocal.
Starting point is 01:56:05 I was just over at the touchdown club with Sark. Name drop. He kind of talked in circle. He said, I was for four. I had no problem with four. But he kind of danced in circles. I think he's for the 24 because we know. Texas last year was in a 2014-plus.
Starting point is 01:56:21 24 saves jobs. That's why coaches will be for it. But I think it also becomes tougher. The road to win a championship becomes much more difficult. It used to be if you go undefeated or 11-1, you play for the BCS championship. It was pretty easy for most if you're in a power conference. Then the 14 playoff, it was like, yeah, you get to 11-1 or 12-0, you're in the 14 playoff. I'm going to give you a blanket statement, and I do not think you can argue with me about this.
Starting point is 01:56:49 If the head of ESPN calls Greg Sankey, the commissioner of the SEC, and says, we need you. SEC's against it, though, or ESPN's against it? against it. You didn't know that? Yeah, that's right. No, no, no, no, that's right. No, no, no, I'm saying. Just give me a second. ESPN calls Greg Sanky and says you are not supporting a 24 team tournament. Greg Sanky's going to be like, okay. No, it doesn't work that way. ESPN answers to the SEC. Greg Sanky says, I'm bringing my conference to you. How much will you pay me? So it's the other way around. the power brokers of the conference leaders, not the TV.
Starting point is 01:57:30 The TV networks pay the bill, but that's, I mean, they're... If ESPN's cutting a check to the SEC, if ESPN calls the SEC and says, do not make this a 24-team event, the least the SEC can do can say, okay, I get it.
Starting point is 01:57:47 But here's the reality. The reason ESPN doesn't want to be expanded is because there's going to be more games and they can't air them all, so they're going to go to other bidders. Thank you for listening to the Matt Thomas Show 10 to 2. No, I know you've talked that out of it. But the other part of this is that has nothing to do with the SEC's current billion dollar contract for their games.
Starting point is 01:58:03 They're still going to get all those great ratings throughout the regular season on all those big games and all that. That's between ESP. I mean, if ESP wants to... And also, by the way, as I said before, you're also going to lose the SEC championship game. And I guarantee you, Greg Sank you don't want to lose the SEC championship game. He doesn't. And they're going to have to make. I was told it's about $250 million is what they make off that.
Starting point is 01:58:22 They're going to have to fund. But that's what most conference championships make. They're going to have to just find that revenue. elsewhere. In what? In other things. I mean, you know, putting patches on the jerseys. I mean, everybody's trying to find every revenue stream they could find right now. But the reality is ESPN owns the ESPN ABC owns the playoff rights.
Starting point is 01:58:43 They already were selling off. The first year of the 12-team playoff, they sold off the rights to games to TNT and Turner. So they could very well do that. We approve of 2014 playoff. ESPN will say, yes, we will pay whatever that price is. Oh, by the way, Amazon Prime, do you want to buy two of the? Are you sure that ESPN is going to buy those games? Well, I mean, they already did before and then leased them out.
Starting point is 01:59:03 If I'm ESPN, I love the current arrangement because I own everything. And if I want to sell my games to TNT, I can. If I don't want to sell my games, I won't sell them to TNT. I'm just telling everybody, be careful with the 24 team. Because as much as we want to hype up, oh, it would be Notre Dame versus Miami and Texas versus Michigan and all this, you're going to get Tulane versus James Madison. You're going to get SMU versus, I don't know, insert crap. team, you know, Cincinnati.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Like, it's going to be games that you were going to turn off after the first quarter. Yep. Keep it at 12, Gordy. When you, because I know you're on those SEC streets. Get them out there. I'm for 16. I mean, 16's fine. Why?
Starting point is 01:59:43 Why? It's perfect. It's perfect. For home. Like Texas and Vanderbilt last year. We're both playoff worthy. You of H. You'll go 11 and 1.
Starting point is 01:59:55 No. You're going to be in the 20. They were 21st or whatever. But that's not the, They're not going by the rankings necessarily. That's the problem. They wouldn't have been good enough. Because the stupid crap of the automatic is...
Starting point is 02:00:07 Why don't they just take the top 24? No autos. That's what I've said for years. I've said to take the top 12 no autos. They won't do that. Because we've got to appease the conference champs and the best group of five team. I guess they're going to get antitrust litigation probably if they don't include them. All this fairness stuff.
Starting point is 02:00:22 There will be nuts for lawyers. It's so they don't get sued. I'm going to give you a declarative statement. The only way we're going to 24 is with the ESPN's blessing. I don't think so. I think if Amazon Prime comes along goes, we will pay $2 billion. Yeah, Jeff Bezos.
Starting point is 02:00:36 We're going to 24. They're getting a lot of viewers on Prime video and a lot of younger viewers, too. Gordy, we were late. We were on together. We came in here and interrupt the show. We love you. 101 on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 02:00:47 713, 2125. What the hell's going on? We need to make a jar for this, too. Every time Matt's phone goes off. Yeah, that's ridiculous. 101 on 790. This is to Matt Thomas. with Ross.
Starting point is 02:01:09 106 on Sports Talk 790. It is Matt and Ross with you. We're going to celebrate here real quick. I was going to get more on the deep dive in the Astros, but you all... Too many of you all have checked out on them. I know this makes me sad. But happy anniversary, Ross.
Starting point is 02:01:27 For those of you that are super OG rocket fans. Happy anniversary. Let's see, May 21st. You were not. born. Oh, okay. Moses Malone went for 20 and 20. No, no, no, you actually were born. Excuse me. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Was that born? You were definitely not born. The Ralph Sampson shot. That's it. Yes. I was born, but I was a meal, baby. Jonathan, do me a favor. Go to YouTube if you don't mind. And find Samson game winning shot
Starting point is 02:02:02 1986. It should not take you long. There's about four or five different one versions out there, but maybe you can try to They're all TV calls. Dick Stockton and Tommy Hineson called the game on CBS. What year again? 1986. 40 years ago today. Now, Jonathan, that was the heart of the, the showtime Lakers won the championship in 85.
Starting point is 02:02:23 And the Rockets, like, that was game five. They waxed them in five games. They were legit. Like Elijah won, Samson. And I got to look this up. Did not the Lakers win the first game and the Rockets won the next four row? And the Rockets, the Rockets beat them four in a row. They were legit.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Like that was real deal. Rockets on the come up, 1986. Young. I think I got it right here. Young Kim Elijuan. Young Ralph Samson. Rodney McCray. Jim Peterson.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Lewis Lloyd. Mitchell Wiggins. I was Lucas on that team? I don't remember if he was on that. Yeah, he was, but I don't know if he played the whole series. Bobby Joe Reed was on that team too. May he rest? And then drugs and Ralph Samson injuries just ruined the whole squad.
Starting point is 02:03:07 So this is CBS 1986, 40 years ago tonight. McCrae will inbound one second on the clock. Sampson has given the Houston Rockets and a trip to Boston for the NBA world title. Yeah, that's kind of one of those 60 great moments. That was the TV call. I'm going to something try to find. I've heard the radio call on one of our commercials here. So I know it's somewhere deepened dregs of the audio vault.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Yeah, here's who started the five games of that series for the Lakers. Can I guess? Yes. Samson. Oh, go ahead, bud. Go ahead. Oh, I think I can do both. Okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Samson Olaugan. Samson, Elijah won. Mm-hmm. Lou Lloyd. Yes. Ooh, I think I got the radio call. Okay. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Let me try to get this. Was Jim Peterson starter? No. Strike one. Bobby Joe Reed? Robert Reed? Yes. So I got four.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Yes. Man Ronnie McCray. Yes. So give me the five of you. Elijah one Samson, Lloyd, Reed, McRae. There was not a true point guard in that group. No. Elajuan averaged 31 and 11.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Who's off the bench in that team? Mitchell Wiggins. Yep. Alan Level. Jim Peterson. Those are the big bench players. Okay. Did he shoot this backwards?
Starting point is 02:04:40 Kind of he was falling away? He was falling away. And here was a crazy part. I want to say, was it Mitchell Wiggins that was on the trail on the right baseline that almost tried to tip it in. Was it which? It was Wiggins or Loy one of the two? I don't remember. Here let's say, so you think you got the radio call?
Starting point is 02:04:57 Gene Peterson, Jim Foley, 1986. Let him pull that up. I'll give you the Lakers starters. Oh, let me do the Lakers. Okay, go ahead. Irvin? Yes. Byron Scott. Yes. Worthy? Yes. Jabar. Of course.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Worthy Jabar. Would I recognize the fifth person? Yes. Not Kurt Rambus. Kurt Rambis. Was it really? Correct, yes. Wow. Michael Cooper, Mo Lucas, and Peter Goodmanson?
Starting point is 02:05:30 Goodminson. Sure, why not? That was the legit Showtime Lakers. So basically, growing up. That was no joke. They won that series. When I first fell in the NBA, it was basically the Lakers playing the Celtics, maybe a one-off.
Starting point is 02:05:45 Maybe the Lakers will play Philadelphia. Maybe the Celtics would play the Rockets. It was a one-up. But it was basically for about five or six-year stretch. Lakers and Celtics playing for championships every single year. Western finals, Rockets lose that first game. Remember, the Rockets that year, I think were 46 and 36. I think was their record in 382.
Starting point is 02:06:02 And they lost the game one of the Western Finals of the Lakers and then won four straight. To win the West. Yeah, they were the two seed. They were 51 and 31 and 86. Oh, I thought it was 46, 36. Okay, I was off. They were 51 and 31, huh? Number two seed.
Starting point is 02:06:19 Smash the Lakers in five. And then Ralph Samson's body fell apart and everybody got drugs to the benches. And by the way, that Laker 80s, that Celtic 86 team was probably one of the five best teams in NBA history. I think you could probably argue that. Yeah. Bill Walton was their sixth man. Yeah. They were.
Starting point is 02:06:38 They were insane. And they pushed them to six. Yeah. And Jerry Seisting and Elijah, was it Elijah on or Samson got in the fight? It was definitely ceasing. I think you're right. I think it's Samson. I think you're right.
Starting point is 02:06:50 I can't recall. Did you find it, or we not for sure? Is that it or not? I think I did find it. So you said the radio call, right? Radio call, yeah. It's a different than the one I just played, so it's got to be a radio call. No, same thing.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Same call. I can't find it in. Oh, well. And maybe next segment. Yeah, we can look for it. We can look for it. Believe it around today. Could be the 86 West Rockets?
Starting point is 02:07:14 I thought we're doing famous Rhode Island Rams. Carly Thomas, believe it. I don't know how famous she is. I mean, we're getting there. You got to manifest Ross? Come on now. Oh, I'm sorry. She's super famous.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Okay, I'm going to send you an email. Did you get the email from Jonathan? Let's see, no. From who? From Gordy sent his, we got a bunch of Gene Peterson calls here. Oh, really? I don't know why he sent it to me. How am I supposed to do with it?
Starting point is 02:07:38 I sent it to the producer, Gordy. Yeah, come on. Come on, Gordy. So I just sent it to you. A bunch of Gene Peterson calls. One of them has got to be the game winning shot. So we'll come back and try to play it here. 713-212-5-790.
Starting point is 02:07:51 7-13-21-2-2-5-7-7. For those of you that are OG Rocket fans, we've got a quick few of them. Where do I put that in among the all-time moments? That's a top five moment in the history of the franchise. We'll figure that out. Come back. Okay. Will we come back. 113 on 790.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Our buddy, Tom and downtown put his top five rocket moments in. Here's his from five to four. Five, Samson shot in the Lakers. We're still trying to find the Gene Peterson call. It makes me sick. We can't find it. I wonder if Todd is his son. I could text his son and see if he's got it.
Starting point is 02:08:26 T-Max 3 is against the Spurs. that late game comeback. It's pretty good. Dream blocks, John Stark said it was game six of the 94. Finals at Senate of Game 7. I remember that like it was yesterday. Mario's kiss of death and the Dream Shake against the Spurs. I was there for that one in San Antonio. To me, no particular order. Samson shot. Mario, Dream Shake, that was the night that not only did the Rockets beat the Spurs in San Antonio, that was the night that David Robinson got his MVP award.
Starting point is 02:08:58 People were bringing that up when Wimby went off against Shea Gill, just getting his award. Dream blocks, Starks, to send it to Game 7. And then I would have the two game seven victories, or the game four victory to beat Orlando for second straight title, and then beating the Knicks in Game 7. So there were no magical moments, either one of those two games. Didn't it at the end of Game 7 in 94, Olajewan made a three, like a wide open three? Yeah. That was nice. Only because the Team X Burrs was a great moment.
Starting point is 02:09:28 But it also was just a regular season. but it was an all-timer. It's such a rocket fan. How old were you in 94, 95 when they won? In 9 and then 9 and 10. So your memories are fairly vivid? I remember, yeah, I remember going to the parades. I remember watching the games.
Starting point is 02:09:47 I remember in 95 we were watching the Western Finals. I remember watching the Orlando games, yes, as well. I remember listening to them on the radio too. So if you go into bed, just get that little radio under your pillow.
Starting point is 02:10:04 Listen to Gene Peterson. Well, it's funny because Greg Rajin, who writes for The Chronicle, called me and said, hey, you want to add a quote to this story about the Samson. So, Samson shot was 40 years ago today. So the game started, and I didn't remember if it was tape delayed or not, because CBS used to tape delay starts of games. They didn't tape delay that one. They actually started it live on time after the news. So the game did not even start until about 1035-ish. So it was about 1 o'clock in the morning when Samson makes the shot.
Starting point is 02:10:38 And I was living with my mom, obviously, because I was, how old was I? I was in the eighth grade. I remember that because it was algebra. And one is the second time in eighth grade or first? I only went to eighth grade once. Thanks, Ross. I should make it sure. And I remember one just screaming, yell, but I'm going to get in trouble because I probably should have been saying up up, up that late.
Starting point is 02:11:01 Made the shot. I remember screaming in a. my pillow going, oh my God, my beloved Houston Rockets, because that's when I first, when when Elijah Juan got drafted and when Ralph got drafted, vice versa, that's when I really became a super rocket fan. I liked him when Mo was there. But remember, when I first became a rocket fan, Mo leads the Rockets to the 81 finals. They lose to Boston. Yeah. And then he gets traded the next year to go to Philadelphia. And then we sucked for like two or three years. We sucked so bad. We got the number one.
Starting point is 02:11:33 one drive back. Twice. Yeah, twice in a row. That's how bad it was. But that's when I really became a Rockets fan. And, um, God, the, oh, so good. And then we went for this long drought of having the Lakers still beat us. And then the Sonics were beating us. And who else was the late 80s in that run? Portland had a run with Clyde Drexler going to the NBA finals. And Elijah won won it out. Elijah won got, was on a flight to Japan and was like telling everyone, everyone was, like, telling, everyone, in the world. I don't want to play for the Rockets anymore. And I guess him and Steve Patterson, with the general manager at the time, made amends, and the rest is history. The rest is history.
Starting point is 02:12:12 Got a couple of guys by the name of Robert Ory and Sam Cassell in the draft. People wanted Harold Minor instead and got Robert Ory, and people were bitching and moaning about that. Remember when JJ Watt got booed? At the Texans draft, that was a similar boo when they took baby Jordan. Yeah. Interesting what, I mean, the Lawsian one already had like a top, you know, 10, 15 career of all time. But he never really, I mean, by the time Drexler came over, he was past his prime.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Of course, the Barclay, he was past the prime too. The Pippin was old. Right. Yeah. You were trying to... He never really had... He would start chasing towards the end. He never had like a really great team around him, really, except 86, and then, I mean, they went to the finals and lost one of the greatest
Starting point is 02:12:52 teams at all time. You had great components. You had Kenny Smith, who was doing a really good job as a point guard, and back in the day, when Elijah Juan would get the ball in the low block and always had his back in the basket. If the double team came, he didn't have a Scottie Pippin's one of the arguably 25 best players of all time. Yeah, I mean, that first championship team, his second best player might have been owned as Thornton. Rodman Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 02:13:12 Yeah, and Vernon Maxwell was obviously defending one. And then the second team, Vernon Maxwell just leaves. I'm good. He's like, you guys got Clyde? I'm good. He just left. He'll leave in the middle of playoffs. I mean, who do does that?
Starting point is 02:13:26 Mad Max. Mad Max. One of one. Yeah. But she had Matt Bored helped out a little bit. you had Exactly You're making my point
Starting point is 02:13:35 Yeah It was Yeah It was not It was not far from star studded Yeah But it worked When the megastars
Starting point is 02:13:42 Play it came to play Because cell was good Scotty Brooks Helped out in that First championship I mean it was Good times That's why there's so many
Starting point is 02:13:50 of you that are listening The show That may have been 4 or 5 years old Or may have been 11 or 12 Or may have been 21, 22 like I was And like man
Starting point is 02:13:57 I miss those days That's why That's what we continue to watch I can't say it's going to happen again, but when it does, we'll know how good it feels. In 95, Olajuwon and Drexler are both NBA all third team. That was that. That was it, though.
Starting point is 02:14:16 That was a team that was a six-seed going into the playoffs. It's a great, I'll stick with the greatest run. Because Drexler got here, and they didn't, they played okay, but they weren't amazing. Jazz, Sun, Spurs, Magic. That Magic team had Penny Hart. Hardaway and Horace Grant and a young man by the name of Shaquille O'Neal was just growing up. They destroyed this team with this guy named Michael Jordan on it. In the semis?
Starting point is 02:14:41 Eastern semis, I think it was. Yeah, didn't they play Indiana? Pacer's a little memory stretch down. The better times, folks. Good times. Oh, man. We're going to talk about the rockets now. What's going on with the thunder and the spurs?
Starting point is 02:14:59 Two heavyweights right now. A quiet 21 and 17. That's what Wembe had last time. It's like Holyfield and Tyson and the Rockets are David Tua. He, Tua had a pretty good punch. See? I saw Tua versus Lennox Lewis Fido, I think. Okay, so that it works.
Starting point is 02:15:18 That was when I was in an elevator with David Schwimmer from friends and didn't realize there it was until I got out of the elevator. Oh, really? Yeah. I hate that guy. Why do you hate him? Okay, it's not his fault. Is it his fault?
Starting point is 02:15:27 It's not his fault. I mean, Ross was such a nerdy loser in the show, and everybody would call me Ross. Ross got Jennifer Aniston. He's not a loser. That's true. That was like only had a pity. She pity? Why would she?
Starting point is 02:15:42 She wouldn't have to pity him? He's so whiny. We were on a break. If I hear that one more time, I want to hit somebody. You're right. I know. You did draw the short straw on that one. I know.
Starting point is 02:15:56 Thanks. Like the most famous Ross. Like in the meeting, other than that, Perot. That's Bob Ross. That's good. Best male character was Chandler, and by far. I guess. Joey annoyed me to no end, and Ross was a right.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Overrated show. I don't disagree. Had its moments. I mean, I thought it was kind of funny in eighth grade, but then, yeah, that's where the jokes, that's where they, the ceiling. And then Lucid Cudrow's like, man, they were so mean to me. They were treated me. They were teasing me. Apparently they were. And she's also collecting a million dollars a check in 1995. You can collect the checks, and you could still be. getting harassed at work.
Starting point is 02:16:34 You can say something about it as it was happening while you're collecting that check. Well, people don't talk out of school. You've got secrets you're keeping up here. Oh. For the memoir? Why do you mat like that? I mean, not.
Starting point is 02:16:44 You know what I'm saying. You don't air out all the laundry that happens up here. Oh, I got some more laundry coming. See? I ain't making a million dollars a year. I make a million dollars a show. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:55 All right. You all out there? Let's believe it or not today? I told you you've had multiple options. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I mentioned Aaron Rogers multiple times. Okay.
Starting point is 02:17:08 You know what? All right. No, that's good. I said 86 Rockets. No, that's Aaron Rogers. Sounds good. Oh, now he's getting pissy over here. You know what I'm not pissy?
Starting point is 02:17:18 I have a straight camera shot right now. No, I'm not pissing. No, that's good. No, that's good. Oh, it's done. That's okay. Do you think, do you think? I'm more than happy with Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 02:17:30 I'm done. We can do repeats. Okay. They're doing repeats. everything these days. Yeah, that's good. Too expensive to the original stuff. Locked and loaded.
Starting point is 02:17:37 All right. 128 on Sports Talks. A best of Aaron Rogers, believe it or not, today. Like you guys even care. What are we playing for today? What's the surprise? I think it's the still,
Starting point is 02:17:50 is Godsmack still? Oh, hell yeah. We're playing, believe it or not, for Godsmack tickets, Ross. You knew. Yeah, we got two left. We had two Gatsmack tickets left. So we originally had five.
Starting point is 02:18:00 So there was actually three people that are going to go see Godsmack as they wanted Let's see him. Imagine that. 713. 212. 5790. 713.
Starting point is 02:18:08 212. 5.790. I had to put this to bed. We did find the Chronicle did his story. I mentioned Greg Radgen from the Chronicle. And he did find the audio. Now, it's off of their TikTok, I think, is where it's off of or something. YouTube shorts.
Starting point is 02:18:27 There are clicks. The clicks are not part of the radio call. The clicks are part of the video, the photos that are attached. to it. So it's just an annoying sound effect. Unfortunately, it's a sound effect. So don't try it. And we, again, we were just kind of talking this off the top here, but here's
Starting point is 02:18:45 how Jim and Gene called it on News Radio 740 KTRH. 40 years ago, I'm guessing, approximately, I don't know. Well, maybe you know what? If the game was at 10.30, it probably happened at 1 o'clock the morning the following morning,
Starting point is 02:19:01 so almost exactly 40 years ago. A second to go. McRae at midcourt will throw it inbound. It's either that or it's overtime. McCray has it. Here goes Samson. Underneath. Samson going underneath.
Starting point is 02:19:13 It goes to Samson and he puts down. Oh, yes. We're on our way. We're on our way. We're on our way, baby. We are on our way. We're on our way. Tyler, coaching and broadcasting school.
Starting point is 02:19:32 So if that happens to me, Wexler, Is Clinton doing that? Is Waxx are doing that? Is Clanton doing that? Are both of them doing that? I can see Wax doing that. No.
Starting point is 02:19:44 What? If the Rockets does the finals, you don't think so? I think Wes can do it. And the Rockets are going to the NBA finals. That's not true. He'd be excited.
Starting point is 02:19:58 Well, I would tell, you know, I would tell them, I would tell them to put their heads, turn their headsets off. I would tell the engineer, turn them off. Because, you know, look, that was the second time in franchise history went to the NBA finals and that was an incredible shot again
Starting point is 02:20:11 literally Sam the balls thrown in by McCray Samson turns spins there was no tenth of a second back then it was either one or zero and boom he puts it in then lost her mind and I you know what I cherish the moment that I can lose my mind in a rocket broadcast
Starting point is 02:20:28 you were losing your mind too Matt with your pillow so then I screened to my pillow and went to well dreaming of Suzanne Summers, of course. Suzanne Summers, hold on. Well, don't Google
Starting point is 02:20:42 now. She's dead, right? Correct. Okay. Oh, all right. I like how you said that. I was surprised, okay. Suzanne Summers, 1986. My gosh. Ooh, Lordy. All right, Ross. What else I can get to? Oh, okay. So I got the graduation tomorrow. So it'll be you
Starting point is 02:21:01 with a long Brian McTagronaut, Astros on day. do's and don'ts we don't have to clap for every person correct it's 700 something people right no you don't have to okay may I go to the bathroom
Starting point is 02:21:14 during the ceremony hmm you can be like my grandma and clap for everyone with a Hispanic last name really yeah so she didn't
Starting point is 02:21:25 she didn't care she didn't care for Smith or Jones but if it was Gonzales or Ramirez she was our family yeah you know familia okay
Starting point is 02:21:34 May I be on my phone during the press? Sure. May I take a phone call during it? Well, don't take a phone call. Go to the concourse. Well, I wonder if I can have concessions tomorrow. What do you do? Do you serve calaches like at 9 o'clock at Diken Park?
Starting point is 02:21:48 I don't think so. I bet there's just water to drink and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know. You can get a bag of peanuts and some cracker jacks? That'd be funny. They'll get all you can eat dogs. You get dollar dogs out there? That'd be nice.
Starting point is 02:21:58 Sit down, Smith. Get the Thomas quick. You could call the cotton candy guy over. Hey, two, please. I'll take a pink and blue. Get your cold beer here. Yeah. Cold beer here.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Yeah. Did you some of that spiked iced tea? I wonder if I got to have kiss cam during my daughter's graduation. That'd be fun. Like all the bits. Or like the Goya Can Scramble. Well, how about this? The valedictorian's talking and all here.
Starting point is 02:22:29 It's the Goyat Cairn Scramble. Or. Or, is there going to be a seven-thitting stretch? That's what I was thinking. When you get to like to like M? Yeah, it's time for a little take me out to ballgame. Take me out to the graduation.
Starting point is 02:22:46 In all seriousness, my graduation in 1990, I had 365 in my class. Cameron went to St. Thomas, and that was all boys. That was about 250. Yeah. Payton, my middle one, he went to a very, very small private school. His graduating class was, I think, 21 total. So I don't know what it's like to be at a long graduation. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:06 Get me diplomas and bad speeches. I don't care. Let's just get out of this stadiums. I don't care what they tried to teach us. Let's root root root for T. So my daughter can get her diploma for it's one, two, three, Thomas, and you're out of Dyken. Bum-bum. I like it.
Starting point is 02:23:29 bum what else can we do let's go salutatorian should we do the star spangled banner before I got to what if we have Canadians in the crowd
Starting point is 02:23:41 oh is it God bless America God bless you do all of it Oh yeah You know how I feel about that Yeah So who's on the play ball call Oh yeah
Starting point is 02:23:49 Banner up Playball You know what Bob is Bob Ford Is it going to be available Could Bob Ford Announce in my daughter's name I don't think I'll afford them That'd be great
Starting point is 02:23:57 I mean I'd pay for it Yeah, your tax dollars at work. Yeah, I mean, what is Bob Ford? What is a daily fee for Bob Ford? I mean, it's probably a pretty penny. I can text and find out. Yeah, go ahead. Let's talk to Paul and Myerland at 139.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Hello, Paul. Hey, yeah, just that shot brings back memories. It was a great time. I remember where I was. I had just gotten into a hotel in Nashville, Tennessee. Nice. I was going up there to record a little 45. and for Jonathan, 45,
Starting point is 02:24:30 it's an old thing used to play songs on. You record one song on one side and one song on the other side and you play it on the record player. And that was the four CDs and all this stuff. But yeah, I thought about that and I remember where I was and just wanted to relive the good times again.
Starting point is 02:24:48 Y'all take care of. It was good, thank you, Paul. Thank you. I wonder how L.A. thought about that because that was a game that started live at 830 in the middle of the week. I mean, does the, I wonder if it was a full crowd before and they leave early.
Starting point is 02:25:00 And they had to be kind of shell-shocked. This Laker team came in or this Rocket Team can win all those games. Suck it, Lakers fans. Yeah, Jonathan, you don't know this. Going back two or three years prior to that, like 83, 84, they would tape delay brought playoff games sometimes on CBS. They would play their 10 o'clock news. Like, I can remember back in this, before I really watched NBA,
Starting point is 02:25:23 you know, Dallas was such a popular show. They were not going to put, they were not going to preempt Dallas. So they were going to put Dallas on, then the news, and then they put the playoff game on at 1030. So you were like an hour and a half behind. If you wanted to watch the Kings versus the Warriors, you were an hour and a half behind.
Starting point is 02:25:40 You know, I like when you guys put me on, because I didn't know what this 45, I'm looking at up right now. This is like, I didn't know how it is at all. 45 record? Yeah. You don't know what a 45 was? Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:25:50 No, they just, you just, this is cool. I like these audio facts. I like this show because there's so many things that he try to incorporate to us and vice versa. Yeah. It's good. He makes me, he makes me frankly feel older than I really am. Or as old as we are.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Let's get off his age bit. Okay. It's called experience, Jonathan. I didn't say you're old. That's what Ross said. I know. I know. I said I'm old.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Hey. I said we're old. So if I'm old, you're old. That 80s. How about that 87? How about that 86 year overall? Think about this. You had the Rockets play for the finals and come up short against the Celtics.
Starting point is 02:26:33 Yeah. And you had the Astros play win the National League West and then lost to the Mets in six games in 86, with game six being a super long game at the Astrodome. What about the 86 Oilers? I don't remember how they were. Warren Moon was a quarterback, right? Ooh. Jerry Glanville and the 5 and 11 used to Oilers.
Starting point is 02:26:55 But I think they went to the playoffs the next year. Okay. I think they did. I think it was the last bad year they had pre-run and shoot. Or whatever they were calling at the time. Next year they were still with Jerry Glanville. They went nine and six. Won the wild card against Seahawks, lost divisional versus.
Starting point is 02:27:13 Denver. 34 to 10. Staggerly. Hmm. Dumbass play call. Ruin everything. You want to, you guys want to learn a lot of, little Houston sports history.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Go see if you can go find YouTube on the Staggerly play. I've heard it a million times. I don't even know what it means. It was a quasi-backward pass. It was just a hot mess. Yeah, it was. It ruined the game. They turned it over.
Starting point is 02:27:38 I want to say they turned it over. And then everyone's like, what the hell was that? And Glenn was like, we've been drawing this thing up for a while of Staggerly. And everybody remembers Staggerly being this god-awful play call. It would be like, you know, like, what was it, the J.J. Watt when he was carrying the ball. And he had a torn hernia? Yeah. Never how we made fun of that.
Starting point is 02:27:55 that how that was. What the hell is doing? The exact same thing on that. I mean, it'd be fun if you were healthy. He's playing, yeah, he was playing with a sports hernia or something like that. Yeah, you just don't want any part of that.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Yeah. Staggerly play. Ongly. And then John Oway would just beat the hell out of us. Oh, it's because I was playing backup linebacker. Oh, you were? Yeah. That you were a backup kicker.
Starting point is 02:28:18 Hey, I could do that. Backup mascot. Who was the Oilers mascot? Um, they didn't have a, I know they had the Derek Dahls. They didn't have the, they didn't have, they didn't have like the mascot body. They had, who was the guy that would slam? He was, he was a mascot for a lot of different teams.
Starting point is 02:28:37 He'd come in and he would bang his tambourine. He was a mascot for all the teams? He did, he'd go to Minnesota and Kansas City and other cities. Roughneck? No, no, no. Well, this says Roughneck. I just Googled, who is that? Oh, Roughneck was a, yeah, he was a live mascot. Yeah, there was somebody.
Starting point is 02:28:54 A George. something George was he'd come in and slam his tambourine to get the crowd going. But the roughneck was definitely the mascot team. But he was as an old guy that didn't say much. Kind of grumpy. Super fan Magoo? No. There's drum brass crew?
Starting point is 02:29:09 Crazy George? Crazy George. Crazy George love the olders until like four weeks later I'm seeing in Canada at Arrowhead Stadium we're in chief scare. All right. Believe it or not. Fresh organic questions about Aaron Rogers. Believe that or not.
Starting point is 02:29:24 Some of them were dated. there is a couple of new ones. It's retooled. You know, it's refreshed. It's like when they re-updated the Star Wars with like Jabba the Hut and CGI. It's kind of like that. You know what you're doing? You're refreshing.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Yeah, sure, why not? What the Astros might be doing. Refreshing their lineup. 713-212-5-790 if you want to play, believe it or not. 7-1-3-2-12-0. DJ-0. All right, 150 on Sports Talk 790. Astros off today.
Starting point is 02:30:06 Cleveland, New York for game number two of the Eastern Conference Finals. And that's just about it. Sports world. I mean, there's some hockey, right? I'm assuming. Probably. Yeah. Everyone always tries to get, you know, hockey fans, people stump hard.
Starting point is 02:30:26 I do applaud their hustle. But they've been hustling for a long time. Either you watch it or you don't. And I'll watch an occasional game seven. it doesn't move the needle for me. Because again, I'm not going to jump in and all of a sudden have the same energy for something that I should have had six months ago.
Starting point is 02:30:45 There's one game tonight. Oh, it's Hurricane's team against Canadians. Oh, a huge one. Total goals in a game for those who are playing at home, five and a half. Carolina is a home favorite. That series, this is the Eastern Finals. It's a game one of the Eastern Finals tonight.
Starting point is 02:31:07 Who knew? five minutes left to go on the show. What should we do? We should play America's fastest growing sports radio. I'm closing on my laptop. Game show. It's going to be. Believe it or not it here.
Starting point is 02:31:25 It's how it works. You call 713-212-2-5-7-190. I closed everything. It's okay. I'll kill time. Today's edition of Believe Rennettles all things about Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers. I read your statement about Aaron.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Statements completely utterly accurate. you'll say this. Beliefsame is erroneous full of bonk in a minute, you'll say this. Now we have two of you that can win today. A pair of tickets
Starting point is 02:31:47 to see Godsmack on the rise of the rock world tour 2026. That's with Stone Temple Pilots and Dorothy. I don't know if Toto's a part of it or not, not like Toto the dog or Toto the Act, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:31:57 I made that joke earlier this week. Nobody laughed. It's a good double entendre. I appreciate it. I didn't hear it, so I'm... Well, you're also going to hear these questions. I'm been stealing you. It's not loading, dude.
Starting point is 02:32:09 Come on, man. May 30th at Woodlands Pavilion tickets are on sale now at Ticketmaster.com. That's Ticketmaster.com to seek Gadsmack on the rise of the world tour. Sorry, we're good, I think. Let's take a look here. Hello there. Hey.
Starting point is 02:32:25 By the way, you guys are not big Godsmack fans. We've only got three people, and we have the notorious prize horse. Bill and Katie out there. And Matt calls in all the time, too. All right. Hey, Bill, what's your favorite Godsmack song? No, the devil's wear of Gucci. Aaron Rogers was an American Studies major while at Cal Berkeley. Believe it or not.
Starting point is 02:32:49 Believe it. Believe it. Now, if you win, you have to go to this. So good luck. Can I take my Bible with me? Sure, why not? Aaron Rogers at the 40-yard-Dash-2005 NFL Combine. He ran a 471. Believe it or not.
Starting point is 02:33:12 Believe it. Believe it. You're going to Godsmack. By rule. Chuck on 790. Chuck, you're ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. In 2006, Aaron Rogers privately asked Green Bay management to trade him because he knew he
Starting point is 02:33:30 wouldn't start for several seasons. Believe it or not. Not. That is correct. Statement number two for the win. In 2011, Aaron Rogers founded a record label called. called suspended sunrise recordings. Believe it or not? Not.
Starting point is 02:33:49 That's a believe it. How do you not know when he does a recording artist? Come on now. All right, here we go. I'm going to do this really nice and slow. 713-212-5-790. See, you were trying to blame Pep the other day. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 02:34:05 Mack, I think we're blaming Godsmack. Mac on 790, you're ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. Aaron Rogers uses hyperbaric chamber. to recover and even has a portable one he travels with. Believe it or not? Believe it. That's correct. Statement number two for the win. Aaron Rogers has recorded five tackles over his NFL career. Believe it or not? Believe it. That is correct. You're also going to Godsmack. Huh. Now, Jonathan, the big question is, will Bill and Mac both want those Godsmack tickets?
Starting point is 02:34:39 They better? Not they're going to get himself a shout-out or a 7-90 t-shirt. Dosec's on 790. Ready to play, believe it or not? Yes, sir. Let's get it on. Aaron Rogers has appeared in a number of TV series, including the Office, Game of Thrones, and Key and Peel. Believe it or not?
Starting point is 02:34:59 Not. That's a believe it. I'm so sorry. Andrew on 790, Andrew, what was your favorite part of today's 10-2 radio show? Can I give a gut feeling before we play? You didn't answer my question. Well, Matt, I listen to I'm a 10 to tour.
Starting point is 02:35:18 I love every minute and second of every day. What's your gut feeling, then? My gut feeling is that LeBron is going to sign with whoever wins Oklahoma City or the Thunder. Okay, well, if that's right, the San Antonio Series. If that's right, then you have to come back and give yourself credit. Here we go. Aaron Rogers' younger brother, Jordan is also a quarterback and briefly spent time with the Jaguars, the Dolphins, the Buccaneers. Believe it or not.
Starting point is 02:35:43 I think that sounds right. I believe it. Yeah, why not? Believe it. Congratulations. Now, if both Bill and Mac take those godsmack tickets, which they're not, Andrew, you're going to get a T-shirt, but my guess is Bill's not taking a godsmack. He just wants to play to play.
Starting point is 02:35:58 Hey, tomorrow's anything goes Friday. It's I'm Sauri. Ross is going to handle it. He's got Astros on deck. A little bit of a shorter show. I'm going to go hang on a dyke in park with thousands of my friends and wish everybody that's graduating this weekend. when no matter what school, a very happy and congratulatory weekend.
Starting point is 02:36:17 Up next, Clanton, Wexford, the team on Sports Talk 7-90.

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