The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Astros Offer Bregman, Rockets Can't Beat Warriors, Recruits Get Crazy NIL Deals
Episode Date: December 6, 2024Ross Villarreal of "The Matt Thomas Show with Ross," Dan Mathews of "The A-Team" and Chris Gordy react to the Houston Astros offering Alex Bregman a six-year deal worth around $156 million. However, B...regman is likely seeking a deal closer to $200 million, so the Astros could be preparing to move on from their third baseman. Ross, Dan and Chris also:recap the Rockets losing 99-93 to the Golden State Warriorsreview NIL deals for college football recruits following National Signing Daytalk with Barrett Sallee of "College Football Smothered and Covered" about conference championship weekenddiscuss the Detroit Lions defeating the Green Bay Packers on "Thursday Night Football"share their "Non-Florida Stories" and more on this "Anything Goes Friday."
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Lunch timers.
This is the Matt Thomas show.
10-01 in H-Town.
What's happening?
Brunchtimers, hello.
And welcome in to another Friday edition
of the Matt Thomas show
with Ross without Matt Thomas.
There is no doubt in my mind.
I'm broke.
You better get that OnlyFans account going again.
Yeah.
Onlyfeet.net.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Yeah, I just got a pedicure.
Looking good.
Hey, Matt.
done a lot of tailgates with my traveling
Texans group, buddy. But
you crushed it out of the park.
I want your brought worst in my
mouth. If they had to put the Pope up, Ross,
and said, you know, I want you to listen to this.
Well, he's Catholic. He can't possibly
get this right. The Pope is
truck sticking people? Chris, have you not gotten
laid lately or what? Whoa.
His wife's listening.
They of course have sex.
Well, you better take care of this boy, because he's
on a real hate cycle right now. I am
very heterosexual. I am ridiculous.
I think it'll say heterosexual.
But there are some
metrosexual performers that I really like.
I love this. I just...
This is like radio sex.
It's how it's how good it is. That is weird.
You don't know what I mean? No, I don't.
You do. I'm done.
That actually works really well with
This is Radio Sex and then the I'm done
from Chris Cordia. I need a context for a couple of those.
Hi, welcome into the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas.
I'm Ross.
real. Chris Gordy's hanging out for a couple of hours. We will have Dan Matthews along the way as well.
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McGovern. What was the whole discussion about you? What were you? He said you're you're hating on
things too much? What was that caller talking
about earlier in the week? I was still
I was on my UT rant.
Oh, that way. Can you relax?
What did the Longhorns ever do to you, man?
Come on. Nothing. That's the point.
They haven't played any good teams
to get fired up about. They're going to play
Georgia again this week
in the SEC championship game?
Line's still sitting.
Two and a half. I thought it opened
at one and a half. It's been two and a half.
So the Longhorns,
despite losing at home to the Georgia
Bulldogs are favored in Atlanta
against the Georgia Bulldogs this weekend.
And as you said yesterday, I think, would you say they're getting crushed?
Georgia's going to boat race them?
No, I actually do think it would be a cool story if Texas is able to win.
I think it would be a fantastic story.
And it's kind of funny because all these years in the Big 12,
they didn't win a whole lot of Big 12th titles.
Four of them, I think.
It'd be fun for them to come in and win the SEC title in Year 1.
96, 05, 08, and then the last one last year.
I think is the only four.
I'm sorry, 09, not 08.
Kirby Smart was gaslighting yesterday.
He was all.
Arch Manning, I mean, this guy.
Yeah, what was that all about?
This guy's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen.
He does it all.
And, well, he used to back up to Quinn Ewer.
I feel like this Longhorn team is a great quarterback away for me feeling like they are just a complete,
dominant team, and I would be afraid of anybody on the planet.
But when you have Quinn Ewers into the equation, I get a little scared.
There is a push.
I've seen on social media from some Longhorn folks.
There was a story written today that said,
if the Longhorns want to get where they want to go,
they need to just turn the page to arch now.
Now, with the SEC championship game coming up,
it feels like they should have done it weeks ago.
But, okay, I have a question for you,
and I was thinking about this.
And we're not going to talk a bunch about college football,
but we're getting into it right now.
We still have some Texan stuff to get to.
We have Alex Bregman, Brian McTagher talking on him yesterday,
on the A team. I want to bring you guys some of that.
But real quickly, I was thinking about this, I think, yesterday.
Do we, at some point, not just in a red zone package like we've seen before,
do we see at some point Quinn Ewers legitimately replaced by Arch Manning, not necessarily
in the SEC championship game, but from now to the end of the season, whether it be the
SEC championship game or the playoff or at some point.
Well, why I think it's a topic is because the last time these years,
teams played, Quinn did get benched. Yes. They went to
Arch to see if he could provide a spark and then in the second half they went back to
Quinn and Quinn played well and Sark even said that this week. He's like, yeah, you know,
we got confidence in Quinn and he played well in that second half against Georgia. But
if he comes out and struggles in this one and throws an early pick and then they go three
and out, three and out, I think number 16's coming in the game. You're making my stomach hurt.
I don't even know what to think about all this. I'm so nervous. Well, the good news is even if you
lose this, you're in the playoffs. That's true.
Which actually, I'd make a case like, yes, you want the
buy and you want to advance.
Yes, you do. And get the extra week off.
But the
consolation is you get to host a playoff game
at DKR.
Like, that's not a bad situation.
Yeah, but it would also be
another week. I don't know exactly what the latest
on. One of the best left tackles in the country,
Kelvin Banks, hurt last week.
He did not, or he was
He's their only player listed as questionable.
Okay.
I think he's not going to play.
I think he's not either.
Because here's the deal.
If you are able, fortunate enough to win this week, you get, it's an extra week.
So what is, it would be three weeks off.
Right.
So to me, that's more, you need banks for the playoff run.
I don't think you need him.
Now, if he can go at 50% this week, maybe you just say, look, it's that SEC title on the line.
But I think you earn the side of caution and say, we've recruited well, we got a good old lineman.
and let's give Kelvin an extra couple weeks to get ready.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
It's an ankle for no alignment.
Yeah, I would want him to stay off of it.
He's thought of, I mean, I don't know where Draftnix have him now,
but one of the best left tackles in the country,
probably a first round type of talent.
And if he's out, I'm really worried about this game on Saturday.
To give you guys a little schedule too,
just because I know, it's all confusing.
I am very confused.
Yes, explain this to me like I'm five, Gordy.
The first round of the playoff starts two weeks from today.
Okay, two weeks from today.
So teams that play conference championship this weekend,
you know, if you lose, you're playing in two weeks.
The teams that are in the playoff for us that aren't playing this weekend
get basically three weeks off.
Good for them.
Because you're going to be playing the first round of the playoffs,
but you're not playing this week.
So, you know.
So you want that extra time off.
It's a little bit of time off to rest up and get ready, yeah.
Okay.
And then so we talked a little bit about this yesterday when you came on with us.
As far as outside of the SEC championship game,
what are the games that we need to be watching the most closely?
Would that be Oregon and Penn State?
Oregon probably in either way.
Oregon's definitely in either way.
Oregon's definitely in either way.
It feels like Penn State at this point being at three.
Yeah, they're in no matter what.
Texas and Georgia, even though it would be Georgia's third loss,
it sounds like they're in.
The winner of the Iowa State-Arizona State game is in the losers out.
that would be the Big 12th champ
and then Clemson
SMU is the one that gets sticky if
SMU wins they're in and Clemson
at 17 is out right now anyway
but if Clemson wins the ACC
title they steal a bid
and then the question is how far do you drop
SMU at 11
let's say they lose on the last second field goal to Clemson
do you drop them
or do you say nope we got Alabama
at 11 Alabama's in SMU
you fall out
It comes down to what the committee wants to prioritize.
And it seems like they just change their narrative, whatever they want to,
whether it's wins, whether it's strength of schedule, whether it's also.
And a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, Alabama would be easily favored, correct?
Yeah, I mean, but that's just on, like, that's for people who haven't really watched this Bama team.
There has been a roller coaster this year.
The ups and downs, ups and downs.
But, yeah, brand alone, yeah, would get them the respect.
but I feel like they would be they played 10 times on the field.
Now, not knowing a whole lot about SMU football, if I'm being honest,
probably I would imagine Alabama would win the majority of those games
and would be rightfully favored in that matchup.
Yeah, I think SMU sneaky good.
I know they haven't, you know, truly played great teams yet,
but I go back to a pit game a few weeks ago.
Pit was awesome.
And they beat the hell out of them.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it'll be interesting the way that plays out.
I don't think that they need to,
I think they need to get rid of the top four,
automatic buys for the conference champions.
But that was all to super serve the stupid conference commissioners who were like, well,
what if the big 12 champ is undefeated and the SEC champ has three losses?
We should still be at the front of the line.
They're not going to be ranked ahead of them.
But in this scenario, you move to the front of the line.
You move up to the top four seed.
Well, whatever.
I guess just win your games.
We're down to arguing about the top 12 teams.
And it feels like, I mean, we have all these one-loss teams.
It feels like in the last few years,
you haven't had as many as you had this year.
So kind of a wild year in college football in general
with championship weekend coming up.
Okay, a lot of stuff to get to here, as I mentioned.
It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross,
but it's without Matt Thomas.
He is traveling with the Rockets.
They lost last night to the Golden State Warriors
in a game where they both did not score 100 points.
I mean, come on, what is this?
In 1999, this is ridiculous.
So we got to talk about that.
Of course, as I mentioned, we got some Alex Bregman stuff to get to as well.
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And you know what?
Matt Thomas doesn't like playing Christmas music.
So my instructions to Connemer-Govern with Matt Thomas out,
play as much Christmas music as possible because Matt Thomas is a grinch.
He hates Christmas music, except he loves that awful Paul McCartney one.
Simply having a wonderful Christmas time.
That song.
sucks. We did a Fantasy 5, I think, one year of
we've done best Christmas songs, we've also done worst Christmas
songs. That's definitely at or near the top of the list.
Last Christmas by Wham, a lot of folks on the Twitter street saying that's the best
Christmas song ever. What's your favorite?
I've got to go with Nat King Cole Christmas song. The classic.
Undeniable.
Don't you go Mariah. Mariah Carey? Mariah. I got to put that number two.
Because I remember as a young lad, seeing that video, I was a big fan.
Big fan of Mariah Carey as a young lad.
Just say it.
All right, anyways, welcome back to the Matt Thomas show.
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He just tweeted.
He's off today, but he said,
Oh, he's tweeting.
He said there's work being done with our friends at St. Jude.
Yes.
We need donations.
So shout out to Matt.
He's tweeting out, doing some work while on his off day.
That was 38 minutes ago.
What is he?
He's up.
He can't work.
Yeah, that's pretty silly.
I guess I should be the last one talking.
I was just off for like two and a half weeks, but I'm back here now.
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Gordy, did you catch Thursday night at football last night?
I completely forgot.
Like, this week has just been a whirlwind with everything, you know, going on.
I was covering, you know, following National Signing Day, the transfer portal, all this stuff, the college world.
I felt like that.
Aziz Al-Shayir thing took on a life of its own for seven days.
It was national news.
But yeah, then I'm like, last night, I was like, all right, rockets come on a little bit later.
And I'm like, oh, wait, it's Thursday night.
And I had hurry to my fantasy apps.
Make sure my lineup's were set.
Because I had Josh Jacobs and Amunders St. Brown.
You get three touchdowns.
The Detroit kicker.
And so, yeah, we needed to make sure those were in.
But that was a hell of entertaining game.
Yeah, it was a great game.
34 to 31, which by the way, real quick,
now that we're like a couple years in,
how do you feel about the Amazon Prime Thursday night theme?
I think it still sucks.
My initial reaction was it's not good.
It's still not good.
It's fine. Al Michaels, I hope this is it for him.
He's got to be it.
He's sleepwalks through the games.
He is, like, he is sleepwalking.
I actually have come around on their pregame crew.
I think they've actually got a fun dynamic now
with Sherman and Andrew Whitworth
and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Carissa Thompson.
Could take or leave Tony Gonzalez.
He's whatever.
Okay.
I saw last night there was this big thing about Netflix has put in a bid.
They may, you know, for their Netflix Christmas Day games.
Yeah.
They don't have like a studio crew.
No, they don't have a crew at all.
So they're like putting in bids.
And who's the guy who does the like the checking in on the Sunday ticket games and all that?
Oh, Scott Hanson.
I think they put in a bid for him.
To do what?
Play-by-play?
No.
He's going to do Red Zone in one game?
No, it's going to be like at a desk analyzing the games.
Oh, okay.
Mina Kimes, they put it a bit on it.
And Drew Breeze.
I'm like, what is this?
I guess, yeah, I don't know.
Why is this a story?
Who cares who's at the desk during a Christmas Day games?
And how is this even a thing?
For Netflix?
Because Netflix, they put in a bid for the games, and the NFL is like,
just give us a cash and we'll figure it out later.
Well, who's going to do the games, NFL?
I don't know.
We don't know.
Cut the check Netflix and we'll figure it out.
Do you know TBSTNT has one or two of the college football
playoff games?
They don't have college people.
They have Charles Barkley on it and Shaq?
Well, that's what I said.
Like, that would be freaking awesome.
Which games are they doing?
Yeah.
Charles Barker.
Herna, Georgia, terrible.
Yeah, be like, Shack, you watch Boise this year?
I ain't watch Boise.
No, I watch Boise.
Fashion Ginty.
A dog dog.
Okay.
That'd be entertaining.
It's not like they know anything about the NBA players that they're talking about anyways,
except for, like, the highlight guys or the big names and the All-Stars.
It's funny, too.
I'm looking at the dates of the games.
December 25th is a Wednesday.
what week is that that that's the next week
after what
what do you mean like we play like a Monday night game
that ends that week the Texans have
three games in 10 days I believe
on that stretch the Wednesday night game is that next week
yeah okay it's I think they play on a
Saturday and then a Wednesday and then
the next the Sunday before that or something like that
I think it's a stretch of like three games in 10 days
here it is they play on the 15th against the dolphins
the 21st against the cheetahs
Chiefs and then the 25th against the Ravens.
God. That is, I mean,
they're playing the 21st and the 25th.
You know what they should do? They should just
wave the white flag go, we're
going to start Davis Mills in Kansas City.
We're going to save our starters for the Ravens
game because that's at home. And odds
we're going to win at Kansas City, probably not likely.
So let's just wave the Y flag. My favorite
is that how Roger Goodell and the NFL
and come out and talk about player safety and how
they're all locked in on player safety, yet they continue
to add more games. They want to add an 18th game
and then they go, oh, Christmas, Netflix,
Cut us. How much money? Yeah, let's do this.
Like punish Aziz, LCI. Three games,
that dirty ass hit. Stop trying to hurt our players.
By the way, you will get two days rest next week,
and we're going to play another game.
Oh, my gosh. So it is a double header on Christmas.
Okay, yeah.
It's the Texan and the Ravens.
It'll be noon on Netflix, Chief Steelers,
and then 3.30 Ravens, Texans.
Is Netflix going to have this figured out?
Because that Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight was a disaster.
It was buffering for hours.
Well, this is going to sound silly, but this is what,
I heard from somebody in the know covers media stuff.
They said it will be easier because way more people are going to be together as families.
So, yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Like, I think they thought like solo people were just pulling up the fight on their phones and all this.
Here you're going to have family gatherings.
So, you know, like 12 people in one household pulling up a game as opposed to 12 individuals.
Rather than somebody randomly, morbidly, curiously, just like clicking on, okay, fine, I guess I'll check it out and see what's going on.
That's basically what I do.
What do you do you do you do you open on Christmas Day?
And then do you have to sign up for Netflix to get the games?
No, let your staff be at home for Christmas.
Please, please.
Close your sports bars and your restaurants.
Although, I mean, not everybody's celebrating Christmas.
So maybe keep your own of those.
Well, those got to stay open too.
I've heard, or Matt has brought up multiple times,
that with the local networks, we'll pick, like somebody,
whether it's ABC 13 or KPRC, one of them will pick up the Texans' Ravens games.
You won't necessarily need Netflix to watch that here.
Correct. Correct.
So at least we'll be okay there.
But, I mean, the schedule coming up, and I swear, if it's buffering the entire time,
Netflix shouldn't be allowed to buy any more live sports, and anytime ever, I don't care how much they bid for it.
You know, look, I get streaming rights and all this.
YouTube is pretty.
If you know how to search YouTube live video, people are always putting out Pyrid.
Oh, okay.
I feed some games.
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I think I think.
But yes, you can find some illegal streams.
Look how far we've come though and blackout restrictions and all that.
Like I think we're five more years away from blackouts not even being a thing.
I mean, I was illegal streaming stuff when I was in Korea and Taiwan because he was blacked out in my region or whatever.
Did you all have that thing here, like back in the day with the Oilers?
If they didn't sell out a game, games were blacked out.
And then Mattress Mac, Mattress Mac, but, oh, we're going to buy all the tickets up so people can get the game.
Mattress Mac was buying all the tickets.
Shout out to Mac, by the way.
I think he's going to be having surgery here.
Oh, yeah, he's going to be having open heart surgery.
And he also is sponsoring our St. Jude Radiothon here on Sports Talk 780.
I love the announcement.
KTRH posted, the announcement said, you know, Max,
Max says that he's going to have a heart surgery and, you know,
these thoughts of prayers.
He's opening his heart to low prices.
Need some thoughts of prayers.
But also want to remind you, if you need some furniture come up by gallery,
I was like, man, that is never, never stop the marketing.
It's great.
The greatest marketing man in Houston history.
But that man never stopped.
I mean, every time I've been over there, he's behind the counter.
Yeah, I remember when I was a kid.
When I was a kid, we would go there and he would be there answering phones.
It was like seeing a celebrity.
Like, oh my God, that's Mattress Mac.
Take a vacation.
Yeah.
Go enjoy sit down.
Some people like that, people like that driven as he is, they just can't, it's a switch.
They just cannot flip off.
All right, quick break here on the Matt Thomas show without Matt Thomas with Chris Gordy, with Meet Ross.
I didn't even get to what I wanted to get to.
As I mentioned, I was bringing up Thursday in football in the NFL because something I saw last night,
it really just makes me upset about the Houston, Texas.
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a lot of stuff still to get to on the show.
We were talking about the NFL in the last segment
and talking about that crazy schedule the Texans have coming up.
Eight and five now, bye week this week, coming at the right time.
I mean, very late into the season.
I mean, almost losing to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
After losing to the Tennessee Titans,
you've got a tough stretch coming up against the Dolphins chiefs and Ravens
and all those games coming up in quick succession.
So it feels like a good time to get the buy-in for the Texans.
But as I mentioned, we were watching, or I was watching, Thursday night football last night.
It was a good game.
The Lions beating the Green Bay Packers multiple times in that game.
It came up.
It was like everybody on Twitter was talking about it.
Dan Campbell being very aggressive on his fourth down.
So this is something that's been his M.O. for a while.
It's something that we talked about in the playoff game and the NFC championship game against the 49ers.
There was a situation.
they were down three points in the fourth quarter of that game.
They had a fourth and three.
They went for it.
They didn't get it.
And I remember this national firestorm of you got to kick the field goal there.
You got to kick the field goal.
And they had a shaky field goal kicker situation at that point as well.
And everybody was crushing Dan Campbell.
But now he does it again last night.
Now, first off, they did it, I think in the second half at some point, a fourth and one on their own 31 and didn't get it.
and everyone's crushing them.
And then when they get the fourth down at the end of the game,
everyone's talking about how, oh, Dan Campbell, he needs a wheelbarrel.
It's funny to me, when it works out, he's a genius.
When it doesn't work out, he's an idiot.
He's taking too big of risks.
But I like it every time.
And I wish that D'Amico Ryans and the Texans would coach more like that,
more aggressively, going forward on fourth downs,
and just saying we're going to line up and we're going to beat you,
We're going to get this one yard and we're going to win this football game.
And that's what Dan Campbell did last night against the Green Bay Packers.
Yeah, four or five on four downs last night.
That will, when it works, you're a genius.
When it doesn't.
Now, I had some questions when it was fourth and one at the Green Bay 21.
With 43 seconds left.
Yes, yes.
That was the one at the end of the game.
Actually, so at that point, the model, I follow a couple of people.
I follow a lot of NFL math nerds who put out the...
their models. Their models were saying
kick the field goal at that point. Yeah.
I mean, that was ballsy.
If you don't get it, I don't think
Green Bay is going to go down and get points, but you're going to overtime.
They don't have a time out, right? Yeah, but you're going to
go to overtime. Like, why risk
that? I guess he didn't
want to even give them a
scintilla of hope. They do have the best
offensive line in football, by the way.
Yeah. And say, we're going to go and we're going to get this
one yard, we're going to punch you in the mouth.
I'm, I feel like I'm somebody
who, at the end of the day, I'll
defer to whatever the numbers say.
The numbers say go for it, depending on the models, of course, and there's different
circumstances that can happen.
Who knows, your left tackles hurt, or your running back is in, or what that can affect
those numbers.
But I would rather have somebody coaching here in Houston like Dan Campbell than what
D'Amico Ryan does, where he's, he's conservative, he plays not to lose.
Joe Mixon even said that publicly a few weeks ago.
You're playing for fuel goals.
I feel like in the NFL, the margins are so thin where every game almost inevitably is
about a one-score game.
You need to take advantage of that aggressiveness at any point that you can.
And I would love to see it more.
I think it all depends.
Like, you know, when they went forward to fourth and goal at the three golfers a touchdown pass to Tim Patrick,
I think the thing is they have enough confidence in their defense that if they don't get it
and they give Green Bay the ball at the three-yard line that they're going to feel pretty good
about getting a stop and getting the ball back there.
So I think a lot of that has to factor into it.
But I also think there's way too many times lately that the nerve.
or, you know, it's coming in where it's like, you know, it says, go forward here.
Yeah, listen to the nerds.
I'm like Danny McBride on Righteous Gemstone.
Shut up, nerd.
Stuff you in a locker.
Like, yeah.
No, take the points.
This is the thing, though.
Nerds are running every single sports franchise, major sports franchise in the world.
Nerds are running every baseball team.
Nerds are running every basketball team.
Not effectively.
And nerds are running most football team.
Like, the nerds at the end of the day, everybody called Darrell.
Mori, a nerd for putting up a bunch of
three-pointers, guess what? The entire league
is doing that as well.
Same thing with Fort Down.
And how's it got to fill?
Well, Darrell Mori hasn't,
well, we're having, Joel is hurt again.
He's having some issues over there
in Philadelphia, but I mean, he
revolutionized the game. You could say he didn't win a
championship and all that, but everybody copied
what Darrell Mori is doing. He revolutionized
the league. Same thing with
Moneyball and Billy Bean, and
they didn't win a championship either, because teams
took Moneyball and they spent money,
and they did it better than he could because of the financial resources being limited there in Oakland.
So now we're seeing in the NFL as well.
It's a little bit more latent relative to those other two sports.
But the fourth down going for it stuff is definitely more prevalent than it was even five years and especially 10 plus years ago.
Who was the guy, the DePodesta, the analytics guy from MLB?
He was, wasn't Paul DiPedesta like the lieutenant of Billy Bean?
And then he went out and did his own thing?
the Cleveland Browns hired him back in. He was basically the Jonah Hill in the Moneyball movie.
But remember the Browns hired him in 2016.
Yeah.
And the problem is he was one of the people who helped facilitate that DeShon Watson trade.
Well, yeah, was he in on that? Well, I don't know what the numbers set on Deshawn Watson,
but they probably shouldn't have done that. Was he even there then?
Yeah.
Yeah, that doesn't mean that nerds don't make mistakes, of course.
But I would say to me, I would like, now maybe you don't want to see somebody as helter-skelter
and is crazy and all in as Dan Campbell.
Here in Houston, maybe some of you all don't.
I would love it. But I want to see more of that.
I want to see more aggressive coaching.
That's my biggest criticism.
I like D'Amico Ryan's as a coach, leader of men,
defensive play caller. He checks so many of the boxes.
My biggest issue with him is not being aggressive enough on fourth down.
And on those times, in the moment, in those games last night,
sure, it's not going to work out every time.
And you're going to have some egg on your face when it doesn't.
And that's when the old foie.
You know, the old fogies are going to get upset.
You know what that is?
That's the old school Gary Kubiak way of thinking that Domeko learned under.
Yeah, play not to lose.
And then you've got Dave Campbell who coached under Sean Payton, who was balls to the wall.
Let's go for it.
And let's kick an onside kick.
So a little bit of different coaching philosophies.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I think we're going to start to get to a point in the D'Amico era where we say,
dude, if you take the gamble and it doesn't work, I'd rather that.
Yes.
Then the playing safe, playing on your heels, and then suddenly you're losing games that way.
Yeah, it's trust the process.
It doesn't boil down as simple as Blackjack because there's more factors when Blackjack is just numbers.
But if the dealer's showing 20 and you got 16, you need to hit.
Yeah, you're going to bust a lot, but it's going to help you in the long term, in the long run.
And that's what you need to do in the NFL.
I think sometimes these coaches are too often scared.
their jobs and their lives to roll the dice.
But I think at the end of the day, it's going to help you in the long term,
especially when you're the Texans.
You have a really good running game with Joe Mixen.
Of course, the passing stuff has been a little bit shaky with C.J. Stroud,
but the offensive line isn't playing better.
But if you can go out there and say, I'm going to get one yard,
and this is going to win me more games, I think they need to do it way more often than they do.
How about the Lions?
What if they want 11 in a row now?
Yes. That's just insane.
That's, I mean, that is, they have got something special going.
The lions, the frigging lowly lions who haven't won Jack, they're now a football power.
They have not been, they had not been to what, an NFC championship game before last year since like, what, 1991 or whatever it was?
They haven't ever been to a Super Bowl.
I mean, look, you want everybody to have their chance.
I want the Texas to have success.
But like if I told you right now, the Super Bowl will be Lions Chiefs.
Would you sign up for that?
Lions Chief sounds amazing.
I mean, they got to be the heavy favorite.
Who else?
Who's the second best team in the NFC?
The Eagles have been pretty good lately, I guess.
It's them and the Eagles.
So you would go with those two.
Yeah.
I'll take a Texan's line Super Bowl.
Oh, that sounds real good.
We were close with them last time.
I'll see you in New Orleans, baby.
We'll go down there.
That sounds like fun to me.
Aziz Al-Shayor will be back by that point.
Well, hopefully, as long as he doesn't earhole another quarterback
and send their skull six inches into the dirt.
What do you think of people who are like, they were like Trevor Lawrence out for the year?
He should be out for the year too.
That's ridiculous.
An eye for an eye?
No, yeah.
Hey, an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Chris Cordy.
Something to think about.
All right, we're going to take a quick break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas.
Chris Gordy is here hanging out till noon.
We'll have Dan Matthews then.
I'm with you basically for the duration until 2 o'clock.
Connor McGovern here as well.
At 713-212-5-790.
Do you want D'Amico Ryans to be more aggressive?
Is Dan Campbell too aggressive for your take?
The fourth down revolution is here in the NFL.
Dan Campbell is in the helm.
How do you feel about it?
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This is Christmas to make.
This and the Temptations Silent Night.
Those my jams.
To me, I need it to be cold for at least a full week here before I can get in a Christmas.
mode. Like, I see the lights up everywhere.
It's under 85 in Houston. It's cold.
Yeah, it's, I mean, it was,
it's, it's been like, morning's been chilly.
But it's not cold. I need cold to get in the full
Christmas mode. Well, you might be waiting for a while.
You might be waiting for, I don't know, several years.
Who knows?
Tomorrow's a high of 54. That's good.
You got a cold front coming in or what? But then Monday,
we're back to 77.
77's pleasant. Like I said, you're under 85. That's cold in Houston,
Texas.
I mean, the whole global warming thing, it's, look, more summer isn't been that bad here.
It's been not, I mean, like, I don't like hot, but like, all right, 60, 70s every day.
Yeah.
But didn't we set a record for days over 95 in September?
Yeah.
Didn't the year, didn't last year we set a record for days over 100 in July?
Next summer probably won't be fun.
I'm tired of these records.
Can we stop setting records for heat in the last several years?
Oh, my God.
You don't want the opposite.
You don't want those hard freezes.
Well, it's just more extreme weather is coming and coming.
It's whatever.
We don't need to argue about why or what happening.
It is happening.
So looking forward to that.
Maybe if you stopped eating beef for us.
I'm not going to stop eating delicious beef.
What are you talking about?
Oh, can I give you a hot take?
This is a very Matt Thomasy.
Oh, here we go.
Ozone layer?
No, what's the steak company?
Omaha Steaks.
Oh.
Actually pretty good.
Are they going to sponsor us?
anytime soon?
Their response are on a locked on SEC
but. Oh, okay. Yeah,
they suck. But no, that's what I've heard.
I thought they were terrible.
People say that. They're not
bad. Like, for the price,
it's better than what you
get at the local grocery.
Not in my experience.
Now, this was years ago. Maybe you didn't
season them. Years ago, and I think it actually
was on a radio promo.
Now, if the beef is good, you just got to
put salt and pepper on it. It's not about seizing it right.
got to put a bunch of junk on it, that means the beef is a good, okay? Number one.
I'll give you a little prepackaged, whatever.
Now, this was years and years ago. I bought a package of Omaha steaks. It was for my brother
for, like, Christmas or something like that, and I think it was a radio promo where I'd heard the
promo code or something like that. It might even been like Jim Rome back in the day.
Yeah. And then we got the six and we're like, these are terrible. But that was also like 10-plus
years ago. Maybe they've gotten the better stock of beef. Me by mail, my question is, what are your
expectations. They're very low and they were
lower than that when I, well, I said, I said
never again. Well, if anybody out there wants to put me
on their Christmas list, I will take a box
of Omaha steaks. I think they're delicious.
Send all of your beef to
care of Chris Gordy.
At 1233,
what are, what, we're not post oak where West Loop South.
Yeah. Nolan Ryan meat is actually
pretty good too. Nolan Ryan's
own natural beef. Steaks and his
delicious steaks. Hot dogs.
They're all good. Hot dogs.
They're dollar on Tuesdays.
And you can get them here.
at Minutemate Park.
Okay, I'll take your word for it.
I normally, I mean, I just use the butcher at the local grocery store.
I'll just leave it at that.
And usually I'm not disappointed.
It's better than Omaha Steaks, which are vacuum-packed and terrible in my experience.
I saw one at the grocery the other day they had.
It was a frozen prime rib.
It was 49-99.
I'm like, and it looked like it'd been sitting there all day.
I'm like, I'm not paying that.
How many pounds was it?
I don't know.
It had to be a couple because it was...
If it was at least five pounds, that's a good deal.
Yeah.
It depends.
that big. Prime rib, very underrated.
It's very easy to do at home. You just
slather it down in salt and pepper.
Maybe you put a little rosemary and thyme on if you want it.
And then you do it in the oven and it's done.
It's super easy. It's way easier than like a turkey.
Oh, as you said, the tough part of doing steaks on the grill is like, it takes no time.
So it's like all the work and to fire it up the grill and getting it.
Yeah, just do cast iron pan.
Yeah.
Cast iron pan, you're going to get the perfect crust.
Don't do it on the grill. Don't even worry about that.
Certainly not if you're doing charcoal.
If you can fire up some propane, that's okay.
This is Ross's steak's tips.
Buy a good cut of meat.
Just put salt and pepper on it.
Maybe a little garlic butter if you'd like, if you really want to jazz it up.
But you don't have to put all the aromatics and people put,
I'm going to put rosemary and I'm going to put time and I'm going to put sage.
Like, no, then your steak tastes like sage.
Your steak should taste like beef.
Just put salt and pepper, a little garlic butter if you'd like.
And that's it on Max.
Doing the cast iron about two minutes aside, press it into the grill to get a good crust on it.
And you're good.
Keep it simple, baby.
Okay, now I'm hungry.
Now I'm very hungry.
Okay, what were we supposed to talk about this segment?
We had planned.
Oh, I think we were going to talk about the Rockets.
Well, the Rockets stopped losing to the Golden State Warriors.
15 in a row.
It sucks.
Has a franchise in Houston ever been more owned by the Rockets and the Warriors?
I know back in the day, like, the Sonics owned the Rockets in, like, the early 1990s.
I'm trying to think, like, the Texans owned by the Patriots for a while there and the Colts.
As soon as I put that game on last night,
and I see the, is it Oracle?
What's their stupid arena?
Chase?
As soon as I see.
The logo on the court and I see the Warriors logo
and I see the Rockets Red with their white jersey.
I just got PTSD.
Yeah, you're like, how much are they going to lose by?
This reminds me of the stupid James Harden, Dwight Howard games
where we had to play these dwebs in the postseason
every year it felt like,
either in the first year of Rockets getting it as an eighth seed,
you know, or it was one of those years.
they had to play them. They're the one.
And then the years where the Rockets were good. We see them in the later rounds.
But it was just like, it sucks that the James Harden
Houston Rockets error coincided with the Warriors dominant error.
Because if the Rockets would have had a championship, maybe two.
If not two. They would have won in 2018 if Chris Paul's
hamstring didn't pop. There's no doubt in my mind.
Okay. Time for a quick break here. We went too long.
I did want to talk about that. Get into the Rockets.
If you can think of a Houston franchise that has been more.
more owned as the Rockets have been by the Warriors.
I would like to hear it.
We also have to talk about the Rockets.
We barely got into it.
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And when we come back, top of this hour,
Brian McTagger joined the A-Team.
We're going to play you a little bit of that.
The latest on Alex Bregman and the possibility of him signing back with the Houston Astros.
That is next here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Launch timers.
This is the Matt Thomas show.
Hour number two of the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas.
He is a little tired.
He's a little sweepie.
As the Rockets played Golden State last night and now are on to L.A.
So no Matt Thomas today, no Matt Thomas Monday.
But you have me, Ross.
You also have Chris Gordy hanging out.
Dan Matthews will be along the way in the next hour as well.
Connor McGovern is here for the duration.
Sorry, Connor.
That's what you got to do.
What's up, Connor? We haven't heard from him today.
Is he doing okay?
I'm doing well.
All right, that's good.
Who's going to win the SEC championship game this weekend, Connor?
Texas.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I want to hear.
I'm scared.
I'm nervous, but we'll see what happens.
It should be.
Well, even if they lose, they are in the playoff.
But another week off and give Kelvin Bank some time to rest.
If he does, in fact, play on Saturday,
I'd be feeling a lot better about the chances in the playoffs.
You would only have to, what, win three games to win the national title rather than winning four?
Here's a fun topic.
Coming into the season,
who would you have said
was the best coach in college football?
Kirby Smart?
Yeah.
So if Sark wins this,
did we start to pivot the thought?
No.
That's three losses first Georgia.
Hey, somebody,
a certain somebody to my left
was talking about Sark being out
in a couple years.
I said that I said as long as Sark can recruit,
or at least the boosters are ponying up,
that's been the same thing is going to be fun.
Because his play calling,
I really like his play calling and his offense.
But those first two years were a little sketchy.
Yeah, they were, but they lost a lot of one-score games.
I was steady on the course.
I liked Sark.
I didn't love Sark.
I liked him as offensive mine.
And I said, as long as they get good players, he's going to be good.
He's going to be fine because, I mean, you know, when he was calling the place for Alabama,
who has first-round talents at all skill positions and along the offensive line,
then you're going to be fine.
He can scheme plays.
And so they have a lot of talent now on the offense.
Unfortunately, the quarterback isn't as good as I would like,
but that's a different story for a different time,
but they're the number two team in the country.
They've lost one game,
and they have the chance to avenge that loss this weekend.
I think Sark's pretty darn good ball coach.
I don't always like his timeout decisions and his fourth down decisions,
but as far as scheming plays and calling plays,
I feel pretty good about him personally as a Longhorred fan.
All right, we've got a lot of stuff to get to here with Chris Gordy,
and we will be getting to some college football stuff coming up with him in about 30 minutes.
It's more macro, big picture college football stuff, but also wanted to get in some of the talk about, well, you know what, man, you just fit for everything, Gordy.
LSU's own Alex Bregman, what is going to happen with him?
Brian McTaggart speaking yesterday with the A team.
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Let's play a little bit of this, starting off with Brian McTexam.
Taggart talking about the Astros. What's going on with Alex Breggman? It feels like it's going to be
the domino will fall after the Soto Domino falls, which should be within the next week.
McTaggart saying the Astros in wait and C mode for Breggman.
Yeah, I think the Astros are sort of in wait and C mode. But realistically, I mean, I think
most people in the organization think they're just not going to be able to get to a point in years or money that they'll be able to resign him.
And I think they're, you know, they're going to wait to see what shakes out over the next week.
We get to Dallas, you know, once Soto signs, and it seems like that could come here sooner than later.
I think the market will shake free a little bit.
And, you know, Bregman's the next big name on the market as far as position players.
But I still think the money in the years are going to be too much.
I mean, Crane a couple weeks ago, you know, reiterated his stance.
And, you know, it's a stances work for him where he doesn't give out these massive long-term,
10, eight, nine-year deals for hundreds of million.
You know, he's never done it, and they just continue to win.
So, you know, he'd rather somebody else pay Alex Bregman when he's 28, or 38, 39 years old.
So I think in the next week we'll know a lot more.
So, again, not a whole lot of new information there.
As you know, Chris Gordy, the article with McTaggart, I think that he put out yesterday,
and that also was floated by Bob Nightingale, six years, 150.
million. I think that is the latest
as far as numbers we're seeing with
Alex Bregman in the Houston Astros.
I think the
weird thing was it was like a week
and a half ago. John Heyman
wrote a piece on a lot of different
goings on and MLB and all this
and you know
he puts like these little nuggets in
and one of the nuggets was like
the Astros would like to have Bregman back
on a on a six year 156
or something like that was his wording.
And it was weird wording because it's
like if you know for a fact that that's what they've offered, then report that's what they've offered.
But he didn't do that.
He just got to say, eh, you know, in discussions, they'd like to have them back somewhere in this vicinity.
Well, then yesterday, Brian McTagher says, according to a confirmed with an M.OB source, the Astros have offered, officially offered, Alex Breggman, six-year deal worth $156 million.
So that, to me, is significant because, okay, this is actual confirmation.
Like, it was one thing to be calling around, yeah, you know, hey, Boris, what do you think maybe like six years?
You know, like to say, okay, this is an official offer that they've put in front of him.
That's legit.
Granted, $26 million a year, I think, I mean, if he would sign that, that's a great deal for the Astros.
I also think it's a great deal for Bregman.
I think you can get more.
But getting that six-year guarantee to stay here in Houston where you got your homes paid for,
everything's paid.
You know, you don't have to pay moving costs.
You have to go buy a new house in a new city.
And oh, by the way, taxes you would have to pay in the state of California, Massachusetts, all these other places.
It's kind of an easy.
I think this is a good starting point.
I think if the Astros are willing to go a little bit more here,
I think they can get this done.
But they got to go a little bit more.
26 million.
What if they went 175?
Would six for 175 get it done?
I don't know if it would get it done.
Apparently, I mean, the story is being floated that he wants close to $200 million.
Total.
I think he's going to be seven years or possibly.
He's got to be realistic with where he.
He is. I mean, he's 30. He's going to turn 31 next season.
Matt Chapman is the deal we always point back to. That was six years, $151 million.
So the Astro is only going $5 million more than the Matt Chapman deal.
Like less than a million dollars more per year.
Yeah, you got to go to higher. I feel like that's a non-starter to me. I don't think of Scott Boras nor Alex Breggman are going to accept that he's only that much better than Matt Chapman.
Unfortunately, that's where the market was set with the Giants and science.
to Matt Chapman to that deal a few months ago,
but that's where we are right now.
That's basically the starting point.
The Astro is only going slightly above that starting point.
And the problem you get into here is,
and I was talking with Adam Wexler about this yesterday,
is that guys like Scott Boris,
they don't want to negotiate.
They get it ingrained to their mind
that I want to get my client this figure and that's it.
So if they've already decided Breggie is getting 200 and that's it,
what can't do?
I mean, there's no negotiation there.
It's literally this is the number.
Get to that number.
You basically need the entire market to say, no, thanks, for an extended amount of time.
And that's what happened last off season with his clients like Snell.
And look, they waited all.
We got middle of spring training and those guys still hadn't signed yet.
And it was a disaster to start.
And Blake Snell said it was a mistake to miss out on spring training.
Or was that Jordan Montgomery or was that both?
I can't remember.
So I wonder if that is going to happen with that precedent set.
But it feels like to me.
If we were doing gut feelings, this is a Friday on the Matt Thomas show, not Tuesday.
But if we were doing gut feelings, I would say within a week of Soto signing, Alex Bregman would be signed.
Because I think somebody is going to be scrambling.
Somebody's not going to want to be the bridesmaid.
One team that misses out and swings and misses on Soto is going to pivot to the next thing.
And that's going to be Alex Bregman, who's willing to play second base if you already have a third baseman locked up for a long time.
And that really opens his market up.
Now, a second basement doesn't have the same value as a third basement.
So it's tougher to me to pay $200 million to a second basement than a third basement.
But it feels like somebody is going to be scrambling after Soto,
and then that's when Bregman is going to get snatched up by somebody willing to overpay a little bit.
Yeah.
I think all that's going to go down at winter meetings next week.
Yeah, we'll see.
So if the Astros swing and miss on Bregman, which feels like the most likelyest outcome to me,
what is the possibility after that?
Here's what Brian McTaggart had to say.
Yeah, if they don't sign them.
I mean, maybe they go and get Christian Walker for a couple of years,
who's probably the best free agent first baseman on the market,
three-time gold glove winner.
I mean, he would fit very nicely.
And then maybe at third base, you kind of patch it together a little bit.
You know, one name I've mentioned a few times as Jorge Polanco,
who was with the Mariners last year.
Didn't have a great year.
It's coming off surgery.
But, you know, he's a guy that maybe you could get eight,
million, you know, hope he has a rebound year and then maybe, you know, first base, like I said,
you know, make a bigger impact deal. Maybe, you know, do you look into acquiring someone like,
you know, Goldschmidt, who's 36 and on the decline, but maybe you can get a good year or two out
of him, you know, being back in his hometown. So there's a lot of ways they can go here. But,
you know, the corner infield is their biggest needs, their biggest need, however they want to,
you know, piece it together. But they can't wait forever until Bragman, if this is.
is going to drag out until January, then I think we'll see them start to make moves to sort of move on.
But once Soto makes his decision, I think things will move pretty quickly, not only for Bregman, but I think for the Astros.
There you go.
That's interesting to me is that, you know, kind of we were talking about Moneyball and how they talk about, you know, we don't have to replace Jason Gianbi the player.
We have to replace him in aggregate.
So would it be some DeZenzo, Wickum, whatever, and then a Christian Walker or somebody you improve at first base,
and then that way you don't have to improve as much to offset it at third base.
Jorge Polanco coming off the worst season of his career.
118 games in Seattle last year,
a career worst 213.
His next worst season was three years ago when he batted at 235.
Battened 213 with a career I had 137 strikeouts.
45 runs batted in, 16 home runs.
I mean, you're signing him.
You might as well platoon him.
with Shea Whitcomb and one of the other young guys you got,
Zach DeZenzo.
Yeah.
Because that ain't, that ain't getting it done.
So maybe they improved first base and then that third base you offset it a little bit
because first base was pretty much a disaster all year long for them last year.
Okay, time for a quick break here on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
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Five-star defensive tackle from the state of Georgia.
Justice Terry, Chris Cordy, has committed to the Texas Longhorns.
6'5, 275 pounds from Manchester, Georgia, choosing the Longhorns over Georgia, Auburn, and Alabama.
He had previously committed to both Georgia and USC.
Can we stop with these pre-commitments?
Can we just have signing day?
Like people commit and then they flip like every six weeks.
Well, it's the money being thrown around.
Yeah, that's true.
This is from somebody who covers Georgia.
George has been recruiting Terry since the eighth grade.
Wow.
Texas just started talking to him two months ago.
NIL is king over relationships in college football recruiting.
It is, there are kids who made decisions this week based on the bag alone.
And I don't hate on them for that.
I mean, this is the world we live in.
Texas is flaunting the money right now. A&M did it two years ago. It did not pay off for them.
That recruiting class crumbled.
Correct. All the top guys went to the portal or not even starting on the team.
And that was just a year removed from, they just had what, they went 9-1 in that COVID year.
Remember like, A&M was like, oh, they have arrived. Jimbo's turning this thing around.
Yes.
And it came crashing down. Texas seems to be in a better spot right now with Sark.
but I just, it's a dangerous territory in that you're paying a bunch of 17-year-olds.
I've seen some of the offers.
Some of these kids are getting $2 million a year to come and sign with Texas.
The problem becomes next year, Ross, if that kid doesn't play immediately,
he's just going to turn around and enter the portal right after and go somewhere else.
The other side of it, too, is some of these kids are going to be bus.
Yeah.
And what happens when you're paying this much money and a kid's a bust?
That's the interesting thing to me.
And it's something we've talked about a lot with, well, on this show and well, every show is when do you get a donor fatigue?
Like you mentioned, the A&M had that huge pop in 2022.
The boosters got all excited about Jimbo.
And then there's been a backing off from there.
So how long can you keep this up?
How many more millions are these boosters going to be consistently pumping out?
And Phil Knight, we'll talk about this actually more in the next segment.
But Phil Knight is pumping up all this unlimited money.
and you have these other boosters and these other, like,
what was it the CEO of Oracle or what it was,
getting involved with Michigan?
He literally bought Bryce Underwood.
But if that quarterback, Bryce Underwood,
if he doesn't work out,
and he turns out terrible,
he transfers in a year,
you're going to feel burned.
And so over the years,
I wonder if we're going to have the same amount spent
in 10 years that we are now.
Because my prediction was that eventually the spending would let up at some point,
and it has in certain programs,
like the guy that was spending all that,
money in Miami. He's not doing it anymore.
Like we mentioned with A&M, but it keeps
up popping up in other places, like now
with Texas, as you mentioned, with Oregon and
and Phil Knight, with Michigan, so
it's popping up other places. I'm going to tell you, one of
the repercussions, whether you voted
for him or not, I don't care, but one of the repercussions
of Ted Cruz getting in there, he's
been one of the biggest advocates for
pushing. There needs to be a cap on this
stuff. Greg Sankey had told me to my face
at SEC Media days, there needs
to be some government legislation here.
I think we're going to see in the next year.
to be some legislation passed putting a cap on hey you can't just billionaires can't just come in
and buy up buy up players because there's the other part of it too and i hate to be old man here
but like we have to think of the kids best interest too maybe justice terry's going to be a future
first round pick no matter where he goes to school also you could consider maybe the development
of georgia might be better than i'm just saying like maybe a georgie's a top 10 pick in the future
maybe at texas he doesn't progress as well byron murphy first round pick de lineman to the texas
using it as an example.
I'm not taking a shot at Texas.
I'm just saying where a kid goes,
is that the best place for him to develop and get to the pros?
Some kids are just so good it doesn't matter where they go.
Yeah, I agree.
But those are few and far between. Some kids need that development.
Some kids, Jane Daniels at Arizona State,
maybe he doesn't become this Jane Daniels
if he doesn't go spend those two years at LSU or Mike Demock.
I feel like.
It became the number two overall pick.
Yeah, okay.
We'll see.
And we'll get into that a little bit more in the next segment.
We've got a lot of college football stuff to get to you.
want to get in, you can. 713-212-1-7-9 to the phone number. But Manuel has been waiting
patiently. So we're going to him next in Riverside, California. What's up, Manuel?
Hey, Ross and Chris. Real quick, Chris, you're a genius with your songs. Those parody songs are
amazing. Where they at? Has he been doing him? He's retired, I thought. Yeah, but he's so amazing.
All right. Well, real quick, because you were talking about college ball, I'm going to jump in there
real quick.
And stand up for my boys,
my ASU,
Sun Devils,
wearing the Big 12 championship.
Nobody saw that coming.
Talking about the portal,
we got 61 transfers
since last season.
And to me,
the coach of the year
is Kenyon,
Gillingham,
that guy's been amazing.
He went out and found
Kambah,
Scatabu in Sacramento State,
when nobody knew
the head crew he was.
And that kid is just
brutal.
He just don't give up.
He's a fighter.
But I just want to give some love
out, forks up for my boys
at ASU.
but really wanted to talk about the Rockets.
I'm really, really disappointed,
especially coming off of that win
and against the Thunder,
what was it, which is an awesome win.
But, I mean, they got to stop losing to bad teams.
They lost to the Kings a couple days ago before
when they should have beat the Kings.
They're a better team than the Kings.
And without Steve, without Curry, and without Dreamline.
And you lose to the Warriors, I don't care if you're in Golden State.
I mean, just hit your open shots.
They're playing good defense.
Just hit open shots.
They would have won the game.
They just got to finish and stop just having these bad shooting nights.
I know they're young, and sometimes it goes up and down.
The NBA is a long season, but, you know, you just got to do the simple things to get the wins,
to rack up the Ws at the end of the year.
You want to go to the big one, want to play with the big boys and really make some noise in the playoffs.
That's all I got, guys, but thanks for listening to me and go Rockets and forks up for ASU.
All right. Thanks a lot, Manuel.
Yeah.
Last night, look, the defense is going to be there normally on a night-in-night-out basis for the Rockets.
Golden State Warriors, you hold them in the 99 points.
There's no Steph Curry.
There's no Draymond Green.
You should win that game.
But we should stop with that narrative because they're 13 and 8.
They be the fifth seed.
If the playoffs are today, the Warriors would be the fifth seed.
Like, they're a pretty damn good team.
Like, because I've heard other teams saying that too.
Like, we lost the Warriors and they don't have this guy.
that guy, they're just a really, they're a good team.
I mean, they just are right now.
They've been playing good basketball.
So, you know, credit guys like Cumminga and Andrew Wiggins playing above their head and
maybe not supposed to be playing.
Camingo was like unstoppable last night.
Yeah, that was ridiculous.
Buddy Heald didn't do Jack.
Like, if I had told you, Buddy Heald goes one for eight.
He only has five points.
Steph Curry and Dream on Greener out, you're like, okay, how much of the Rockets win by?
But, I mean, just a horrible shooting night.
And really, that's just kind of going to be who they are.
They're not going to shoot 26% from three every night,
but the Rockets are just not a very good shooting team.
They're going to have to get to the basket more.
They're going to have to get to the free throw line more.
This league is tough.
It takes its toll.
You should win that game, though.
They were favored in, I think, by three and a half or whatever.
And, okay, Vegas doesn't mean everything, of course.
It doesn't mean anything at the end of the day on the floor.
But if they could have knocked down a couple of more shots,
we're talking about them winning that game.
And it does hurt because the Western Conference is so tightly packed.
You're the two seed right now.
Now, two and a half back from the Thunder, two and a half back from you is the nine-seated Lakers,
three and a half back from you is the 11-seated spurs.
Like the West is insane.
Again, stop me if you've heard that before.
You're like four or five games from being completely out of the playoffs right now.
So, no, I mean, for three and a half, yeah.
First time all season you have lost back-to-back games.
You got to go play at the Clippers Sunday night.
That's not going to be easy.
Like, you've got to find a way to win that one.
And then it's for all the marbles.
next Wednesday, the NBA Cup game.
For all the NBA Cup Marvel.
Here in Houston, LA tip, an 830
tip here in Houston next Wednesday night.
And then if they win that one, lose that one,
we'll figure out what happens from there with their next game.
But yeah, you want to stop the bleeding,
and you're going to have to find a way to win on Sunday night.
Yeah, so just disappointing last night,
but the three-point shooting, it wasn't there.
Jalen Green, just woefully inconsistent again.
He had three straight games where he was averaging like 26 points per game.
but the up and down nature of that.
I'm just, I'm disappointed.
The way that he started the season,
it looked like he was ready to make that leap,
but then the three-point shooting has gone down significantly.
He was shooting 40, 41% from three at one point,
now down to 32.4%.
Those hot numbers from the start of the season,
back to basically what we expected from him in his career.
So not great for the rockets.
They need to shoot better,
but the defense, still they can hang their hat on that.
one of the better defensive teams in basketball,
came in the last night's game,
second in defensive rating.
Not sure where they are now,
but you held the team to 99 points.
I'm pretty sure things didn't change too much there.
But the Rockets,
disappointing loss to the Golden State Warriors
after a bad loss to the Sacramento Kings.
A couple of nights before.
Now their three game, West Coast swing,
ends against the Clippers on Sunday.
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Okay, quick break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross
without Matt Thomas.
Gordy is here. We were talking a little bit about the NIL money that is flying around college football.
Couple of more stories coming out about even more money flooding into college football.
Where does it stop? We'll talk about that next here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
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Who gets the biggest bump in their royalty checks come Christmas time?
I got to feel like Michael Bouble is on the short list.
Like, Mariah Carey has other hits.
I mean, Bublai has other hits, too, but he's no Mariah Carey.
So she's probably already always got a steady income from her residuals and royalties.
But like as far as percentage jump, I got to feel like Michael Bublae's got to be on the short list.
guys who get the biggest bump come
Christmas time. I mean, this whole album
bangers. My Carrey
just has that one popular song. He has the whole album.
Who gets Bing Crosby's royalties
as kids? Yeah.
Stephanie Crosby, great granddaughter.
I just made that up.
Bing, uh, Sydney Crosby.
We still haven't done away with the problematic.
Maybe it's cold outside, right?
Uh, I thought, I thought the people, there was
backlash on that, but then there was a re-backlash.
So I think we're in the clear.
I don't know.
Remember, who's the guy?
John Legend last Christmas.
He had Kelly Clarkson did a, they did the edited version.
Yeah.
It was so late.
Not without your consent.
It really was like that.
It was like, what is this?
Baby, it's cold outside.
I respect your values.
I respect, baby.
I respect your consent.
Are you too drunk?
I'm just going to walk you home.
respectfully
and I will wear prophylactics
if you ask
I think that's how it went
something like that
but Bublae's got to have a big jump
yeah Bing Crosby
I mean Sinatra people probably
listen to him throughout the year
Nat King Cole
I'm going Bubla
biggest bump
if you can beat that
tweet me at Sports RV
I've seen Bubla twice in concert
it's really good show
Oh you have
Did you wear a tucks
No I did
Seems like a really classy affair
You wear like a buttoned up shirt
I mean I'm not hating on the
B'bley game. Has he had hits other than
Christmas? Yes, yes.
There's the coming home
song or whatever. What is it called? I'm home or I'm on
the way home or... It's just called Home.
Okay. That was close.
Like the
Daughtry song?
I'm putting... Spicy margarita. I'm not familiar with that one.
I was a good. I was about Jason Drulow.
Oh, feeling good. That's... Sway. That was a good.
Yeah, but that's a cover too. Does he have anything original?
Beautiful day.
Play that. Do you have...
We don't have to do that. We're not doing a boobla.
Oh, I know that one, yeah.
Oh.
About a good morning or something.
Is that one? I don't know. Don't worry about it.
All right, anyways.
Welcome back to the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas.
He is out sweeping because he's tired.
He's sweeping in Los Angeles.
He is out today.
He'll be out on Monday as well with the Rockets traveling back to Houston.
So Chris Gordy in with me until the top of the hour.
We also have Dan Matthews coming up.
here what is it this sounds vaguely familiar crank this
yeah okay
this is like the end of a 1990s rom-com
you jam this
this is where the credits are rolling
I guess it was you all along
yeah
you're right in front of me this whole time
I can't believe it
and then they kiss at the wedding and then this rolls
and rolls the credits perfect
all right thank you for that
Connor McGovern all right so we've been talking about
college football. We've been talking about the NIL money.
Where does this stop? I
think do individual
programs tap out like we mentioned?
The A&M NIL money is
not being spent like it was a couple of years ago.
You got the Jimbo Fisher
Albatross of a contract being paid for.
You had that guy that was paying the Miami
athletes to go to speak for
his gym or whatever. He tapped out as well.
But then it's popping up other places.
Money in NIL spending obviously way up
at Texas, the longhorns and the success.
They're having the SEC. I think
we're seeing a shift to some schools.
Ole Miss and A&M went and spent in the portal last year,
and they finished with the number one and number two best portal classes.
And you can make a case that that was the correct way to go.
Ole Miss still lost three games and the Aggies still lost four games,
but the Aggies were supposed to be way worse this year.
They were better because of the portal hits.
You know, Nick Scorton being the big one that came in for Purdue.
Florida had Prince Liam Mielan, a lot of big-time players,
or Ole Miss, rather, and look at what they did.
Look at Miami. Was the investment of Cam Ward worth it?
I mean, it looks like you're going to miss the playoff,
but Cam Ward made Miami hell more interesting this year.
Their defense couldn't get stops.
But this is where I think you get into it and go,
I think if I'm a rich college donor,
I would rather put my investment in a proven college player
to come to my school knowing it's probably only going to be for a year.
I think that's where you start to get your mindset with these kids.
because newsflasty, 17-year-olds that signed with Texas and Georgia and everybody,
I guarantee at least 10 of them are going to be hitting the portal next offseason.
That's the thing, though.
I guess it would, it's kind of a, you have to assess the risk,
and you also have to assess the return on investment to where, you know,
if, let's say a freshman does come in, like a five-star freshman,
and they're immediately impact player,
and they're going to be there for a couple of years,
and they're going to eventually be an NFL prospect,
If you don't invest in NIL money that way, then you're talking about somebody that you did miss on.
Somebody that was somebody that's not going to transfer somewhere else.
But that's the tough part is how do you keep a kid locked in?
I mean, like, they try to do this like the, let's just say like the kid Justice Terry today.
I'm sure he got somewhere in the middle of one to two million a year.
The NIL deal that they're going to sign him to is going to say you're going to get $2 million a year over the, if you stay here the, if you stay here,
next four years, you will make $8 million total.
Yeah.
He won't, but the likelihood he's not going to be there four,
because if he's good for three, he's gone after three.
He's going pro.
If he barely plays as a freshman,
he may say, I'm going to hit the portal and go play somewhere else,
but he'll have gotten $2 million from Texas.
It's what Quinn Ewers did in Ohio State.
He got a truck from Ohio State for not even play.
But for example, the two five-star players for the Longhorns
in last year's recruiting class, Colin Simmons,
was just named a freshman All-American, and Ryan Wingo has been a very impact-wide receiver.
And Anthony Hill was what the year before?
And he was a year before, and he's been very good.
So that's what I'm saying.
I think you have to weigh both ways.
Getting it on a five-star, absolutely you can swing and miss, but also you might be missing on impact players where I don't anticipate Colin Simmons,
being a impact starter and a freshman All-American in Texas, he's going to transfer anytime soon.
You know what I'm saying?
So I don't know.
It goes both ways. I get what you're saying, but I also feel it's up to the boosters, right?
And these NIO collectives and where they're going to be spending this money and which methodology they want to go with.
That's what's so funny right now. Seeing Justice Terry commits to Texas over Georgia and all these Georgia fans are on Twitter going, yeah.
I mean, all that oil money just threw that. And Texas fans are like, you damn right.
And then Georgia fans are going, bragging that you threw a bunch of money, a 17-year-old isn't the flex you think it is.
And I'm like, this is where we are. Whether you like it or not, like the trash talking is.
It's funny because there's nothing you did.
There's nothing good.
You had, you know, big money people came along and said,
we're going to give this to the kids.
Okay, we'll see if it works out.
Yeah, it's their money and it's up to them if they want to keep reinvesting.
And for example, Phil Knight with Oregon, I saw the story.
Phil Knight told an Oregon commit.
Naim offered, who was committed to Ohio State,
a cornerback, that if he chose the Oregon Ducks,
he would get him a signature shoe with,
Nike and he flipped to
Oregon. That's
crazy. Phil Knight
at 86 years old is like driving
all this NIL cash and
who can match? What booster in the
country can match? I'm giving you your own
shoe with Nike. Well, the Oracle
CEO could give Bryce
Underwood whatever the hell he wanted, but
not a signature shoe. I mean, when's
Bezos get involved? Does he? Yeah, oh God.
Do you be funny?
What if Jeff Bezos, like, he picked some
he threw a darted a board in
some random program, the Power 4 program, he wanted to make them like the most powerful program
on the planet. Like if he just said randomly Maryland, or what's his alma mater?
That's what I was trying to figure out. Did he even go to college?
I imagine he probably went to college somewhere. He attended a Montessori school in Albuquerque when he was
two. Okay. Princeton.
Okay. That is a kid. Princeton you aren't going to turn into a power.
What if he did, though? What if he said I'm writing a check for $10 billion to Princeton Athletics?
They don't give out scholarships and they don't...
I imagine the emissions are going to be pretty tough,
Princeton-wise.
Once you get every single smart recruit on the planet.
That would be funny, though, if you built up an Ivy League.
It offered everybody $10 million a year.
Harvard starts making the college a football player.
Let's just say he grew up, I don't know, a Rutgers fan.
Although Rutgers have been spending N.I.L.
money, especially in basketball.
But some random, let's just say, Maryland Terrapins is who we wanted to make into a power.
He could do it.
He could just offer them all $10 million a year for the next whatever
and get as many requirements.
recruits as you possibly can. But as you mentioned, that doesn't necessarily mean there won't be some
washing out of guys who aren't as good, who aren't up to par, who were dominant in high school and
got to college and weren't as good. So I don't know. I just wonder where this is going. Where are we
going to be at in 10 years with this NIO? I still think it's misguided. NIL was supposed to be for
the Johnny Mansells and the Tim Tebos who were huge superstars and couldn't make a dime. You know,
The LSU fans made T-shirts with the Honey Badger on it,
and the NCA was like, you can't make that for Tired Matthew.
It's like, okay, this is stupid.
Like, in fact, he can't make any money.
Right. But, like, I still think it's like for the Shador Sanders,
for the Travis Hunters, for those guys who've become stars in college football.
Quinn Ewers does Dr. Pepper.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And he's in those Dix commercials.
Like, that's awesome.
That's what NIL's supposed to be for.
Does paying the 17-year-olds before they get on campus just feels a little weird
because you've done nothing.
We don't know if you can play or not.
Yeah.
Well, they've done.
It's not that they've done nothing.
They've become one of the best recruits in the country,
so there is some level of promise being shown.
Are you worth $2 million a year?
If somebody pays you, yes.
And here's the problem.
Yes.
Justice Henry walks on the Texas' campus making $2 million.
Anthony Hill goes, they're only paying me $400K.
Hey, I need more.
I'm sorry.
You should have got more.
I'm out.
Well, but that's the problem is you're going to hit a cap, right?
You can't just keep going.
You can't just keep going more, more, more, more, more.
We're going to see where it shakes out.
You can pay every player a million dollars.
I mean, hey,
Laramie Tunsell makes more than Shaq Mason.
Are we going to get a capologist soon in college football?
Yeah, I think so. Okay, you can allocate a million for the quarterback,
but we're going to have to pay $300K for the guard and the tackle.
These teams all have capologists probably.
All these NIL collectives, I'm sure they're looking at how much money
their funds they had and where they want to allocate them.
It's about revenue sharing starting next year.
Yeah.
With the TV deals and everything.
Hmm.
All right.
We'll take a quick break here.
How do you feel about this and the direction NIL is going?
Where are we going to be at 10 years?
Is this some of this going to settle?
Or is it just going to keep going and growing and growing and growing?
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Well, twice per Friday, I suppose.
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Jason and Katie has been holding patiently here on the show.
What's up, Jason?
Hey, guys, about this NIL, where I see it doing the most damage is that's a smaller group of five schools.
Because, I mean, I'm a Boise State fan, been one since the old.
Oklahoma Fiesta Bowl.
And they have a reputation of developing players.
Last year, they lost three, most notably being Tailing Green, the quarterback at Arkansas
now.
The only reason they didn't lose Gentie is because somebody came up with, he got, I think,
$1.3 million and NIL money from somebody up there.
But, I mean, these smaller schools who don't have the big money to, they're going to be
losing recruits.
and that's really going to hurt some of these smaller schools.
Yeah, I mean, but Boise State is number 10 in the country.
They've had a couple of good runs here over the years in the past.
They've never won a national championship, or at least to my knowledge,
or at least in the last several years, as far as the actual national college championship.
So, I mean, it feels like this system, which has been always rigged for the big programs.
I wonder how much it changes, Cordy.
I guess you have more of a perspective on this.
for a team like Boise State who's never really had a huge shot to win the national championship,
but they make a hay a few years every now and then like they're doing this year.
How much does this change the landscape for them a year to year?
I mean, they went out in God.
I want to say the kid was Dante Moore?
Was that the kid?
He was like a big five-star quarterback recruit two years ago.
He came in at the Boise.
Everybody's like, oh, that's weird.
And then I think he transferred to UCLA.
But, you know, Boise was a player there.
I don't know if they paid for him or what.
But there's, you know, look, this is a year where Navy and Army were largely top 25 in the country for much of this season.
It's not like they went out and spent a ton in NIL.
So it was Ebs and Flows with all college football.
Memphis is top 25.
They haven't, you know, they weren't diving into the portal spending tons.
SMU and Indiana are in the top 10?
Yeah, so it could be done.
I mean, you don't need to spend money.
And look at A&M.
This thing backfired tremendously on them.
And you signed the number one class in 2022.
They bragged about it for weeks.
and almost all those kids are playing elsewhere now.
So I think it'll all level out.
And like I said, whether you like it or not,
government's getting involved here.
There's going to be some kind of legislation
that's going to come in to kind of push back on all this stuff.
Because I get it.
It's the haves and have knots.
If you have a billionaire who just wants to donate to your school,
I don't even say a lump because the guy from Oracle,
Oracle didn't go to Michigan.
His wife went to Michigan.
So he wrote the check for Brides on.
what. So, I mean, those
are going to be few and far between. You just got
to get a good coach and recruit well
and try to sell them on football. But I get
it. It's frustrating because some kids aren't being sold on football
right now. They're being sold on just money.
And again, I don't blame the kids.
17-year-old gets off for $2 million. You go take
it. You'd be an idiot not to.
All right.
I was just wondering because, as I said,
Boise has a reputation for developing
players, and I hate to see them cherry-picked
like that. You know,
I mean, the reason they are is because they've
got a good coach who I think is on level
with Peterson's level of
developing players because he took
Madison, their quarterback, who
I thought was never going to see
the field and actually turned them into a pretty good
player. So
we'll think, as you said,
but everybody, I mean everybody
develops, develops town. I mean, Ashton Jenties
turned into an absolute freak there, boys
of this year, but I mean, you know,
Drake May developed in North Carolina.
He went top five in the draft.
You know, Michael Pennix went from Indiana
or to Washington.
I mean, the NFL will find you if you're talented enough.
Yeah, I agree with that.
And I just wonder, the long-term implications of this and how it plays that will be interesting.
Let's get Patrick in here real quick at the top, before the top of the hour.
What's up, Patrick?
Hey, guys.
I just kind of want to follow up on the last caller with the same as it affects the smaller schools with an IL.
I think a lot of these small schools can put themselves at a better advantage with the transfer on NIL.
if they, just the way that it's trickling down, the talent,
they're going to lose some players that are going to move up,
but you're also going to be able to gain some players from the Power 4, Power 5,
and that come in.
But I mean, as an LSU fan,
I'm still kind of salty about the whole price underwood deal.
But I'll hang up and listen to all I think.
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing you could do there.
They did everything right.
They allocated money for him.
They kept the relationship going.
LSU did everything right for three years.
And then a billionaire came in,
and his wife said, I want the number one quarterback,
because I don't, she said, I don't like Michigan being bad after winning a national championship.
The worst thing that could have happened was Michigan winning the championship because they gave their fans something to be excited about it.
Yeah, well.
And then they always beat Brian Day. They get excited about that.
Well, they did.
But yeah, I mean, I agree, but it still is all a crapshoot.
Like, let's say Jackson Arnold, five-star quarterback from Oklahoma just entered the portal.
Let's say a Boise State goes, guys, we've only got about a million in our coffers.
We could go spread it across a bunch of O-Liam and a D-Lyman.
or we go get just Jackson Arnold.
Let's go do it.
And they do it and they go get him.
It's more robust.
Jackson Arnold could be awesome for Boise.
It could be the best player they've ever had.
Or could be more of the same.
Up and down play like he was at Oklahoma and just be an average quarterback.
Yeah.
It's certainly a crapshoot.
I mean, it's almost like, you know, the NFL draft can be a crapshoot.
So, I mean, we go up to the levels.
And we've seen this with recruiting it for years.
And a lot of it, of course, under the table, now over the table with NIL, like I said,
time will tell the story on this and how things shake out.
But for the most part, we've seen, the haves have stayed the haves and the have-nots have,
have for the most part, stayed the have-nots.
All right. Time for a quick break here.
Gordy, thanks for hanging out for a couple hours, man.
Appreciate you.
Your watches ended.
Go off to the dentist, man.
We'll see you later.
Dan Matthews coming in for the next two hours.
My name is Ros Vio.
Matt Thomas is out today.
He is resting as the rockets were in action last night and then flew to Los Angeles into the
Eve. So coming up next,
who's going to say good morning strippers? I don't
know. It's going to be me? It's going to be Dan. Maybe
Gordy wants to do it. Maybe Conno McGuver needs to step
up to do it. We'll figure it out when
we come back and also the signature
Friday open. Also coming up
next, the final two hours of the Matt
Thomas show with Ross after this short
break.
Lunch timers.
This is the Matt Thomas
show.
12.0.3.
H-town.
Good morning strippers.
And welcome to a Friday edition
of the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
There is no doubt of my mind.
I'm broke.
You better get that OnlyFans account going again.
Yeah.
Onlyfeet.net.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I just got a pedicure.
Looking good.
Hey, Matt.
I've done a lot of tailgates with my traveling Texans group, buddy.
But you crushed it.
out of the park. I want your brought worse in my mouth.
If they had to put the Pope up, Ross, and said, you know, I want you to listen to this.
Well, he is Catholic. He can't possibly get this right.
The Pope is truck sticking people?
Chris, have you not gotten laid lately or what?
Whoa! His wife's listening. They of course have sex.
Well, you better take care of this boy because he's on a real hate cycle right now.
I am very heterosexual. I am ridiculously heterosexual.
But there are some metrosexual performers that I have.
really like. God, I love this.
I just, this is like radio
sex. It's how it's how good it is. That is
weird. You know what I mean? No, I
don't. You do? I'm done.
No, I don't.
Hey,
Good morning, strippers.
Good morning, strippers.
There we go. Hey, Dan Matthews in the building.
I had to get that out. Thank you. I appreciate that.
So, me, what did we learn from
last week? We learned that the... I don't know. I wasn't here.
The holy imminent...
Yeah, I mean, we noticed.
The Holy Eminence can lay a mean hit on the football field.
Yes, he can.
Four-arm shivers.
Apparently, the one guy that goes after Gordy is getting the kitty like nobody's business.
Yeah, apparently.
You know what they say, though?
Like, usually, like, people who brag about their golf game or, like, you know, how much they can lift or anything else, they ain't doing it.
Okay.
Well, Gordy wasn't bragging.
So Matt brought it up.
No, no, no.
It was the caller.
The caller that did.
I don't know what's going on with that.
But anyways, don't come after Gordy.
You come after Gordy, you come after me.
Whoa, come after me.
I'm a man.
You don't want to come after me.
I'm 40.
Shout out to, well, I got a good morning from Lauren and from Larry Futsack and from Tiffany and from Tiffany.
All given good mornings at noon.
So shout out to all of them for listening to the show here.
You always know you can count on Des and Tiffany.
Well, you certainly can.
And Lauren, to keep Chris in a, well, never mind.
Anyways.
Yeah, let's not go that road.
Hey, Dan. How's it going, man?
I'm great, buddy. How are you?
I like that Georgia sweatshirt, man.
How about our good friend, Justice Terry, choosing the Longhorns over the Georgia Bulldogs?
I know. I know. I've already had a buddy of mine reach out to me and we're just like,
hey, hey, one got away from Georgia. It's just like, okay.
Finally, Georgia, I think for the first time, it's looking like Texas is going to end up with the number one overall recruiting class.
First time in 20 years.
Good for him.
But you know, at the same time, though, too, I mean, I heard you and Gordy talking about it as I was behind a stalled 18 wheeler.
Thanks for that.
Yeah, what's going on over there on 45?
God, man.
Like, it's just, it's one thing to have a stalled vehicle, but then on top of it all, like, I get into a car with a purpose.
I'm going from point A to point B.
Some people, I don't think, necessarily do that.
Yeah.
And your obliviousness affects other people's day.
So get out of the way or just don't even get in your car.
Either one works for me.
Is this a Friday? Ain't nobody got time for that?
This is a Friday. Ain't nobody got time for it.
It's a Wednesday ain't nobody got time for it.
It's in any day that ends in why, ain't nobody got time for that.
I just feel like in general, the distracted driving, it has not only has it ramped up in like the last 10 years, I feel like it's ramped up like in the last year.
Maybe it's because all these millennial TikTok brain kids are getting there, finally getting their, finally getting their.
driver's license now, but it feels like even in the last 18 months the distracted drive.
I'm honking like a crotchety old man at every single left arrow like that I get into.
I just start honking.
I'm just honking at everyone.
I mean, there is a meme out there of, I think it's like Kermit, like turning around,
like looking at someone.
And it's like, that's me when I drive past someone.
And I just want to look and see if they have such a stupid face like I think they do.
and more often than not they do.
Because more often than not, they just have that oblivious look on their face.
Like, huh?
I didn't realize I was messing people's day up.
No, the worst is when they get mad at you and throw their hands up when you're honking out.
I'm like, dog, you're the one that needs to be paying attention.
No, no, no, no, no.
The worst is when they're in the wrong and then you honk at them and then they get mad at you.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
The hell?
We're on the same page.
How kind of nerve do you have to get mad at me, you moron?
Oh, man, I don't even know.
I don't even want to talk about this.
Because the way that I drive to work, it's only a couple of miles, but there's like 5,000 lights.
And sometimes on the way to work, I literally, at like three or four different lights, I end up honking at people.
And I'm like, am I the weird old man?
No.
No, it's them that are out of touch.
They're the ones who are wrong.
Okay.
I think I was just hungry, too.
Are you going to be okay?
Well, I mean, now I'm good.
Don't eat on air, man.
Dan, come on, man.
That's my number one pet peeves, people eating on air.
Can you wait till break?
My God.
Take five minutes.
I hadn't eaten all day, man.
Whose fault is that, Dan?
It's noon.
You're blaming me?
What time did you wake up?
8.30, but then had to get the dogs in the car, drive from Conroe.
Have a boiled egg, man.
Come on.
Boil eggs are gross.
Yeah, but it gets the job done.
You can eat them on the go.
Do something, man.
A lot of protein.
Pop into a schmendies.
Get an egg biscuit.
If I had time, if we didn't have stalled trucks.
Oh, my God.
You can't, look, you can't be late and have not eating eating and complaining about all that.
Come on, Dan.
Pick a Elaine.
Dude. Eventually, I'll get right, but...
Well, we're still going to be waiting a long time on that one, Dan. Come on now.
Okay. Dan Matthews is here. Take your time. Eventually, I'll get there.
Eventually. Okay, so a lot of stuff to get to with Dan. We've got non-Florida stories coming up at
130. We're not doing, believe it or not, today. But he is here. We've got Alex
Bregman stuff to talk about with Brian McTaggart on the A team yesterday. We've been talking a lot
about NIL. Where does it go? Justice Terry signing away from Georgia. We know that NIL money
had a lot to do with that. The Longhorns are ponying up this year. They have the number one overall
recruiting class. The Rockets lost last night for the 15th time in a row. The last two times,
Steph Curry didn't even play for the Warriors. So we got a lot of different stuff to get to with you,
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Did I hear that, Matt Thomas?
Hey, trying to hit the post over here.
Dang it.
Dang it, Dan.
Who's the angry one now?
Me?
I was angry last time, too.
All right. I got it out. We're good.
But go ahead. What were you saying? As I was saying,
did I hear that Matt Thomas is against the Christmas music?
Yes. He only wants it played on Christmas Eve and that's it. Otherwise, he doesn't like Christmas music.
He is a scrooge. He should get coal in his stocking and he hates America.
Well, I mean, you know, Mr. stays in five-star hotels and, you know, has all the great accommodations.
And, you know, doesn't want you to build up the Christmas spirit.
because, oh no, we got the Golden State Warriors.
We played them, and then we had to fly to Los Angeles in private jets.
So.
It's like a 45-minute flight.
Exactly.
They got there probably at like 10 o'clock last night.
I'm tired.
Okay, man.
You know he's listening to.
Well, maybe, I don't know.
No, he is.
He is.
Why?
I guarantee you.
No, I don't think he always listens.
I don't listen to what I'm off.
Well, I mean, that makes two of us for the most.
No, I'm kidding.
But, no, he wants to hear how much we're going to make fun of him.
Well, guess what, Matt?
Goal accomplished.
Dan started it.
Dan started it.
It wasn't me.
Oh, oh, I will always.
I've had nothing to say but nice things about Matt.
I'll show long until you showed up.
Who are you kidding?
10 to 2 every single day is you two just roasting each other,
except when Gordy comes in here,
and then you two just yell at each other about Texas.
Oh, well, that happened yesterday because he was being a hater.
Oh, I'm sorry, if Tennessee is so good and the Texas avoided him,
why didn't they show up to the SEC championship game?
Huh? If Mizzu's so good, why didn't they show up to the SEC championship game?
Okay? If all these teams, the Texas avoided, aren't on the schedule, they should have showed up and made the SEC championship game.
They did not, so they're rematching Georgia.
Well, I mean, you know, Gordy angered up Texas fans. I angered A&M fans.
Oh, it's easy with Aggie fans.
Yeah, geez. Good Lord.
Poor guys.
Even when, like, I apologize to one guy for, you know, how far in I went.
What would you say, man?
I just said they're an embarrassment of a pro.
Well, embarrassment of a program is a little much.
See?
And that's what they said too.
But then he still tries to tell me, oh, well, you know, back in the 90s, I'm like, dude, I was five years old.
All right?
I'm 30s. I'm 39 now.
No, you have to go back into 1930s.
That's when we're really going to program dominance.
Hitler was invading Poland.
They were invading Normandy the last time.
Well, yeah, no.
And Normandy was in 44.
Saw Varsie's horns off was actually a thing.
Yeah, seriously.
All right.
But anyways, Dan, good to have you here.
We've been talking a fair amount about college football,
and so I can get your thoughts on this because we were bringing up the NIL money that continues to fly around.
As it mentioned, very clearly, the Longhorns are paying up.
The boosters and the old fogies and the oil money, whatever you want to call it,
they just landed Justice Terry.
Everybody had predicted Justice Terry to go to Georgia.
Georgia had been recruiting him.
This is a 6'5, 275-pound defensive lineman.
They had been recruiting him since eighth grade.
Texas shows up in the last two months, conceivably, probably up whatever offer that the NIL offer.
They sweep in, they take him.
What is the long-term implications in your mind of NIL to where is this money that keeps getting poured in year after year?
How much longer is this going to continue to be ponied up at this high volume across college football?
I'll start with him first.
I mean, I think that the unfortunate truth is, is however much money he's being paid.
Once that gets out, it's going to be impossible for him to match any type of expectations.
Like, no matter how good he might be on the field, there's still going to be people out there that say,
well, I thought he was supposed to do this.
I thought he was supposed to do that.
Like, that's the part to me that I just, I can't fathom, like, why teams are paying or people are paying,
you know, these 17, 18 year old kids, this amount of money when you don't even know what they're going to be on your campus yet.
I can understand to a point, a junior, a senior, maybe even a sophomore.
Like Maurice Clorett's looking around right now saying, damn, man, why wasn't I born about
Tarrel prior?
They just got tattoos.
See, and it's funny.
I thought about that last night, too, is everybody wanted to villainize Jim Tressel for, you know,
oh my God, he lied.
No, he covered for his players.
But now, you know, not only for him, but for Will Wade and basketball, like everybody.
Reggie Bush?
Yeah, yeah, you know, Mr. Strongass Offer.
Well, now it would be just fine.
He could give out millions of strong-ass offers if he wants.
But it's just for the life of me, I can't understand even how good this guy might be.
Like, remember when Robert Kandici and Laramie Tunsell and all those guys went to Ole Miss?
Yes.
And where's Robert Kandkechie now?
I have no idea.
Where's Lequan Treadwell now?
He is, I think, on somebody's practice squad, actually.
But obviously we know where Laramie Tonsel is.
So you get my point here is that there is no guarantee here.
So you're spending all of this money like that moron's wife from Oracle who wants to spend this money so they can make Michigan so much better.
There is zero guarantee that Bryce Underwood is going to live up to that.
And you want to shell out $12 million?
God, I hope you hit bankruptcy.
There is zero guarantee.
But as far as a hit rate, five-star recruits do hit at a higher rate than four-star and three-star recruits.
So you don't have necessarily a guarantee, but I was bringing this up as well.
like the two five-star recruits according to 24-7 for the Longhorns last year.
We're Colin Simmons, who is being named to freshman All-American teams,
and Ryan Wingo, who has been a very important part of their offense.
So at the end of the day, you say, are we going to spend money in the portal?
Are we going to spend money on recruits incoming?
And it looks like, I mean, you kind of got to do both.
And what does that mean for everyone else?
What does that mean for donor fatigue long-term?
For example, at Texas A&M, of course, the big class that they had two years ago.
ago. Now since then they haven't
what was it, eight five-star recruits they had
or something like that in that class. Something ridiculous.
Basically what they've had
an aggregate in the three classes
since then. And
so are we going to see this across the
country or is it going to keep happening or is it going
to keep happening in different programs?
I just wonder like, there
can't be unlimited funds. There can't be
people out there who say, outside
of like Phil Knight, that it's worth
my money that
I have lying around to pour in millions
and millions and millions of dollars every year for these recruits that A are maybe
are going to be stars, but B might not work out and C are going to hit the transfer portal
after a year or two.
Well, it's also too.
I mean, take LSU's approach, for example, is they lost a few.
And of course, everybody, ha, ha, Brian Kelly, you loser, you lost to these recruits.
No, they just didn't want to pay 17, 18 year old kids money that they have and they are
flush with cash from everybody I've talked with.
They're saying I'd much rather pay a guy that's two or three years experienced and be able
to give them that money because I know
at least I've seen it on tape what this guy
can do against this competition.
I can only hope what this guy can do
against this competition. But to your point as well,
it does seem like we are getting that route.
I know Gordy mentioned about Greg Sanky.
He's been a huge proponent of it.
You know, many other conference commissioners as well
of going to Capitol Hill and saying,
hey, guys, come on, man, you got to step in here.
This is getting kind of out of hand.
I'm about players getting paid,
but I'm also not about unreasonable money being spent
because it's also too, it's not good for the kids.
What the hell would you have done at 18 years old with $4 million?
I would have been pretty happy.
I would have taken care of my family.
I would have bought my parents a house.
Football would not have been the priority for you.
School would not have been the priority for you.
You'd have been like the hell.
I got $4 million.
I'm set.
I'm good.
That's okay.
I don't have a problem with that.
I feel like if you make yourself a top level recruit.
Oh, the hell the people who paid you aren't going to care.
If somebody offered me $2 million at 18,
I would have taken it.
And maybe I would have been, I mean, obviously,
it would have been very foolish with the money and would have spent it foolishly.
But that also, I don't think saying that people are going to be irresponsible with that money
means you take it away.
Because you have, that happens in baseball when guys are drafted at a high school and they get
big signing bonuses.
And sometimes it doesn't work out.
And sometimes it does.
Fair point.
But it's also, though, too, it's another example of it sets the expectations so high that they
cannot be met.
Because I guarantee you that's going to happen.
The first time that Bryce Underwood gets on the field at Michigan and he throws a pick,
you're going to have people who are going to say, this is what our $10 million got us?
Like, seriously?
This is it?
Well, so what?
Then you live and learn.
Then you say, you know what?
Maybe next time I'm not going to give up $10 million.
Yeah.
Then that's up under the donor.
To me, it's not on the player.
It's not like they're going to be denying that money or say no.
For me to see billionaires with egg on their face.
I mean, the minute that that happens, it's kind of like, guess what?
You can't spend your way out of this one, you idiot.
But I just don't, I don't have a problem with these offers coming in,
people wanting to take care of their families, wanting to do whatever.
And yeah, a lot of the money is not going to be spent responsibly.
Hopefully the tax implications are okay and nobody has the IRS all coming after them.
But on a large scale, I don't have a problem with the money being spent.
Don't get me wrong.
You know, if people are willing to pay you, then get yours.
I mean, that's like the thing that always cracks me up as well is, I mean,
we do this all the time in pro sports.
Oh, you know, he signed this huge contract.
if you were offered it too as well, knowing full well that maybe you can't live up to those
expectations, you're taking the money. Damn the torpedoes, man. That's everybody else's
problem if you're upset with my performance. All right. Well, so it's interesting for sure.
But we'll continue to talk about it with the NIL money that's being thrown around.
Mentioned earlier, Phil Knight promising a recruit a cornerback, like his own shoe from Nike.
Nobody can match that. This kid's not Jordan. What are you doing, Phil?
Yeah, it's his own Jordan brand.
No, I don't know if it's going to go that big.
But that's something that no other team can match.
So the NIL stuff, it just continues to go up and up and up and get crazier and crazier and crazier.
Where does it go from here?
Does the government step in?
Do they need to?
We'll talk about it.
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Here it's not Sunday 99.1.
I think you're rather enjoying playing all this Christmas music, aren't you?
Of course.
You're Connor's getting into it.
It feels like.
You know, in honor of Matt Thomas yesterday, we were playing Yacht Rock in the first
Howard. Yacht Rock sucks. That's not true.
Did that documentary come out?
Yeah, it did. That's what kind of
fired me up. And it talked about how it's a fake
genre. It was totally made up.
I mean, it's a conglomeration
genre, I guess, if you will.
It's fake. And then, you know,
you had AC, you know, asking
if it was that I wanted to talk
about it. I just said, no, I just wanted to hear it.
I just wanted to hear Christopher Cross
ride like the win, which
is a really interesting
song because
it's basically about somebody that's
on acid trying to run from the law.
Oh, okay. That sounds like fun.
Most yacht rock songs, and that's what they talk about
in the documentary, most yacht rock songs are
sad songs. Oh. It's regret.
So they're depressive. Yeah. It's
heartbreak. What you
should have done, again, regret.
Wow. Okay. Yeah.
Like, you know, you're thinking to yourself,
oh, this is so nice to be on a lake
or to be in a bay somewhere right now listening to this.
No, that's not really a happy song.
Okay, so you want to be depressed?
Do you listen to the yacht rock?
There we go.
All right.
Welcome back to the Matt Thomas show.
I mean, that's why Matt's so irritable all the time.
Well, you said it, not me.
Welcome back to the Matt Thomas with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas, he is resting as he was traveling with the Rockets.
Rockets lose last night to the Golden State Warriors, 99 to 93.
No, you don't have to check your time machine.
You don't have to check your calendars.
That wasn't a final score from like 1996.
It was 2024.
Both teams didn't score 100 points.
How many times that probably happened in this NBA season?
I mean, you know, you're exactly right.
You're hitting it right on the head.
The mid-90s right there of like, you know, the Knicks and Heat or Nixon.
Remember when we watched the last dance during COVID?
And it was like, final score.
84 to 79.
You're like, what?
Is that not the third quarter?
There's college teams now that are winning games like that.
Seriously.
You're starting to see college games.
where like they're getting into the 90s there
and 40 minutes of basketball.
Yeah, exactly.
So Rockets lose last night.
The defense is still really good,
but they could not hit a three-pointer to save their lives.
Only 26% from three.
And you can still bring the defense every night,
but we've been waiting now,
and we're, what, 23 games into the season.
This offense has not made consistent leaps
that we were hoping it was going to make coming into this year.
They've improved, but, I mean,
you're still looking at.
a team that's, and I threw this out on Twitter
last night, they're going to have to go get a sharpshooter.
And I'm not saying that it's supposed to be
Reed Shepard. Well, I mean, and that's the thing.
You like for him to come along, but if you
and, you know, I heard you mentioned
this earlier about, you know, just
how compact the Western Conference is.
You can't fool around. Like,
when it gets to the trade deadline,
you're going to need to go find somebody that can
be a good option off the bench for you
that you look to and say, yep, there's one, three,
there's two. Oh, my God, there's
three. What a substitution.
Yeah, as you mentioned, they are two and a half games back of the Thunder as the two seed.
However, they are tied with the Mavericks and Grizzlies in that spot.
And there are only three and a half games ahead of the Spurs who are 11th in the West.
Go away, Spurs.
And I know you're out there listening, Missy, but still, go away.
The sanctimonious nature of that organization is off the charts.
So just go away, fade into obscurity.
How has Wendy been doing?
Nobody cares about you.
Who cares?
Who cares?
I'm just curious.
I'm just keeping an eye on Victor Wimbanyama.
Oh, he's going to be the next great star of the NBA.
All right, great.
Pretty good.
You dropped 50 earlier this year.
You know, it must be nice to be born on third bases and organization.
Well, the Spurs have had to take it on the channel out, but they did tank for Tim Duncan and got him and they changed the franchise.
We'll see, they did tank for Victor Wimbabellman.
My PTSD is here, and I'm not saying that to be, you know, funny here.
Yeah.
But what it is is me being in college when the Spurs are winning all those titles.
And, of course, everybody I went and, you know, I was in college with at TLU would be like,
you know, go Spurs, go, go, Spurs, go. Oh, what a great organization.
Shut up.
I hate that lame phrase, by the way.
Go Spurs, go.
I think it's horrible.
Didn't get anybody going.
How long did it take you to come up with that one?
San Antonio fan?
And I've been to a couple of games there.
I mean, it wasn't bad.
The Rockets beat the, the, the,
spurs and I remember there was me and a conglomeration of Houston Rockets fans were just doing
Houston Rockets and people were getting very upset very upset you're sitting with the red rowdies
That was when I was in my early 20s maybe perhaps I was a little more of a rabble rouser than I am in my
So you were the one beating on the snare drum. I'm a little more
Non-confrontational in my old age. The last rocket scheme I went to I swear that they had like a guy with like a full drum set sitting in the red rubs.
round. They have the drums and they go
around and they do that whole thing. And they have like
symbols and everything like what was it? During like
one of the uh, the free throws
he wasn't beating on the drum. He was
like on the symbols. He had
symbols. He got a full set out. He had a full
kid out there. He was incredible. Really?
I was like, wow. He got the bass and the snare
and the symbols and all that stuff out there. I can't
wait to see what he does with the kick drum.
He had a cowbell as well. That
would be good. That would be good. I'm always
good. I'm always in favor of the use of the cowbell.
It would get the people going. I mean, well, there's not. You
have to have a guy with a full drum set out there in the
Routies, you know, there's not a whole lot of room these days.
Because, you know, you know.
Tell me has whittled them down.
You need somebody to come along and say, hey, look, I'm just like you.
I put my pants on one leg at a time.
But when I do, I make gold records.
That's what you need.
What is happening with the Routies, by the way?
I need a Routy to tell me, like, it used to be like a full section.
Well, it's not only the Routies.
It's also the bullpen at Texans games.
Remember how that was supposed to.
That got whittled down to?
Yeah, it was supposed to be the Routy's fan section.
And all of football, and then I look down there, because it's funny you say that,
because I had just gone to the last Texan's game and I was like,
is the bullpen even really a thing anymore?
Is it not?
It just looked like a bunch of regular fans sitting around.
So I think finally Cal and Hannah said, well, all right, well, you know, we don't need the bullpen anymore.
We're going to stop giving away these free tickets.
The guy with the Lord Farquhar crown, he can go sit somewhere else.
Hannah said, no, more free tickets.
Texans ultimate warrior.
He can just go sit somewhere else.
Where is that guy's got to sit there in the end zone?
to get on TV somehow. I think he's on the field.
He's on the field. I was trying to figure that out last time.
He put him in a middle linebacker? He's getting in for
Aziz al-Shayir? I think only in his
weeks, he's for the next
three weeks. I think in his
mind, he thinks he is. How's his
downhill run stopping? Is it okay?
He doesn't look like he's got the greatest knees.
He's not moving it. He used to be
better back in the 80s. I was going to say, I think
the ligament and tendon issues are probably
of the up of the
upkeep for him. I can't judge. My
knees will be exploding if I stepped on you.
any day I go down a flight of stairs, creaking, soreness.
That's not good.
It's bad.
It's not good for anybody.
It's not good for business.
It's not good for anybody.
Well, anyways, the Rockets, I guess that's what we were talking about.
I don't know.
They, yeah, can we, I was bringing this up earlier,
and somebody mentioned the Braves owning the Astros in the 90s.
Like a franchise, like the Warriors own the Rockets,
as much as any Houston franchise has been owned by another team that I can think of.
The Texans owned by the Patriots for a while there and the Colts as well when Peyton Manning was there.
But I mean, it feels like this is even worse with the Warriors and the Rockets getting beat down by them in the playoffs all those times.
And still, Draymond and Steph did not play last game.
And it's Jonathan Caminga and Andrew Wiggins beating you down.
Yeah, that was the frustrating part of it all.
And of course, you know, you get Steph on the bench having that smirk on his face.
Okay, we'll wipe that smirk off your face.
But no, I would say it's the Texans with the Ravens right now.
The Ravens are an issue for them.
And the Astros with the Reds.
Haven't the Astros not beat?
The Reds?
All right, that's a little much.
Haven't the Astros not beaten the Reds since like 2019?
Yeah, but that's different.
They suck.
It hasn't been like in a playoff.
You still lose to them.
How about the Astros, like the reverse of it being the Astros and the Yankees?
Well, what the Astros do to the Yankees.
That's what I'm saying.
Astros is done to the Yankees over the years.
Is that how Yankees fans feel about the Astros?
How I feel about the Golden State Warriors?
Well, I mean, Yankee fans try to thin moral high horse themselves.
And, you know, well, but you guys cheated in 2017.
No, you got two hits.
That's why you lost.
I mean, you know, that's how they tried to rationalize it to themselves.
And then Jose Al-Tubei hits a home run to beat him.
Yeah.
Rockets and Warriors.
It just feels like the biggest owning that I can think of,
of a Houston franchise from another organization.
Wouldn't you kind of like for like a loose bowl?
being near the bench and somebody just puts a shoulder right into the chest of Steve Kerr.
Do you want poor old helpless Steve Kerr to be hurt?
It's an actual basketball play and I didn't say get hurt.
I'm just saying, hey.
You want a shoulder into him?
You're trying to send him in the hospital?
What's wrong with you, Dan?
Somebody's trying to dive to save a loose ball.
I'm kidding.
I do not condone violence against other coaches.
Now, if Emaudoka and Steve Kerr want to scrap that, it'd be fine.
I was going to say, I think Steve Kerr would be running for the tunnel.
I think he would be.
You saw John Goebel the other night.
You saw the fear in that man's eyes.
Even a lot of current NBA players would be running.
All right, time for a quick break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas.
Dan Matthews is here with us until 2 o'clock.
We've got non-Florid stories coming up.
We're talking some rockets.
We've been talking about the NIL money and college football.
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Nothing but nylon.
Nothing but nylon.
For a living.
Yes.
Matt Thomas.
The legend continues now.
I'm loving this.
You know, it was funny. Get out of here, Scrooge Thomas.
Once I got around that stalled 18 wheeler that you heard Sky, Mike, just tell you about.
Yes.
This song was playing because I was listening to our station across the hall.
Okay. Were you like I'm not having a holly jolly Christmas right now?
I was trying to make myself.
There's traffic on 45.
I was trying to make myself have a holly jolly Christmas.
And as soon as I got around, this song came on where I, of course, I absolutely gave the 18 wheeler driver a dirty look.
How dare you break down on the freeway?
I mentioned this to Matt, I think.
I don't know if you were listening, but I will never again complain about after watching the drivers in Taiwan.
I heard you yesterday.
I will never again complain about Houston drivers.
Okay, maybe I will, but I'll need to remind myself that play.
There are no rules on the road out there.
People are merging in between intersections.
There's little people in thousands of scooters.
Like at every stoplight, there's a big, like, sectioned off area at the very front for the scooters.
and they all just weave through traffic
and the scooters go in front of everyone.
There is a big biking culture.
There's people biking everywhere.
There's pedestrians walking everywhere.
There's buses.
It is mayhem out there.
You think there's like scooter gangs?
Yeah, I don't think so.
You have to blood in to be part of the Vespa gang here.
It looks like just that's a cheap way for people to get around, I guess.
There's a lot of old ladies on scooters around there too.
Like zooming around.
Like I'm at the fruit market.
Trying to buy the fruit, by the way, in Taiwan.
Extremely best banana I ever had my life.
best passion fruit I ever had in my life.
The pineapples were out of season, so they weren't that great.
I've ever had a passion fruit.
Passion fruit, quite delicious.
Dragon fruit, quite delicious as well.
I don't know if you've ever had any dragons.
Those are the ones that look really weird on the outside, but then like you cut into them
and you're kind of like, oh, hey.
Yeah, it's got little seeds.
Yeah, they're very good as well.
Very, very, I would just say flavorful.
Bursting with flavor all the fruit over there in that one.
It's like in the movie the rundown where, you know, they were eating that fruit
and then they were getting hallucinations.
What movie The Rundown?
Is this where we ding you?
I've heard that when you make a movie reference,
it's time for a ding on that time.
It's with the Rock and Sean William Scott.
I didn't catch that one.
I'm sorry.
You watch a lot of movies, don't you, Dan?
And the bad guy in the movies.
Did you just go home and watch six movies a night?
It's Christopher Walken.
You reference like 85% of the movies you reference I have not seen.
It's like the rock jumping off a building.
And taking a movie.
out a pillar of a bottle. Dan is doing his own
show with his own movie references right now.
What is it happening? It's one of the most
ridiculous movies ever.
Oh, God. Who ever thought the rock
was good at acting?
Well, doesn't he just play the same character in every single movie?
Yeah, pretty much. He doesn't have a lot of range, but
apparently he hits in the box office. That's what matters,
maybe. Just be the big guy in the movie, and you can
be it. I do want to see that Christmas one
that he's doing with Chris Evans.
Oh, where it's like Christmas action?
Yeah, they're trying to like rescue Santa.
What do they call that? Well, you want to see every movie, Dan.
What's this one called?
No, I don't know what it's called.
I honestly don't.
The only other one that I do want to see is Gladiator.
She wants to go see Wicked.
Gladiator 2.
Yeah, yeah, Gladiator 2.
I don't see them both in IMAX.
I don't want to see Wicked.
Why not?
I have zero interest.
What's the problem?
I'm not an Ariana Grande fan.
Well, she's annoying.
You're not an Arianna Grande.
Uh-oh.
You've upset somebody on the show.
I think at night she turns into a mouse.
She's...
I'm an Ariana Grande fan.
I can't name one of her songs.
I'm a fan of hers.
I think she does great work.
Not a fan.
Okay.
Well, Connor, do you want to pipe up for your lady?
Not a, not a fan.
I'm not, I am not going to pay my money to go into her coffers.
I am not going to.
Excuse me?
Well, how much?
We're talking.
What's mine is mine.
And it will not be spent on Wicked.
Okay.
Why don't you go with the lady?
How do you feel about musicals in general?
Do you hate musicals?
I like musicals in general.
Wicked is supposed to be.
It's one of the most famous ones of recent vintage, right?
Or at least it's been blowing up.
It's on...
Yeah.
So you'll go see the rundown with Sean William Scott
in the rock, but you draw the line at Wicked.
Nobody accounted for taste here, okay?
I mean...
I'm just saying.
I'm just kind of getting straight.
Now, does Denzo Washington have a New York accent and Gladiator 2?
That's what I've heard.
See, Maximus.
Maximus, we've got problems.
Which I think is totally fine, because in the old
Gladiator movie. They all had English accents.
They weren't speaking English in Rome.
See, thank you. Why is it that every Roman movie
always has British people playing the Romans?
I'm like, they weren't British. It's anything
they were Italian. It's a little,
makes it a little exotic, I guess, for us here
in America. It's for us, we think that, like,
if a British person is playing the role, it's a really
serious role because, my God, they are
true thesbians over there in Britain.
I want them all to have southern accents.
Where's Maximus,
man? I'll tell you what.
Marty Smith makes a came
Strength and honor.
Hey, man, you fight in the line today?
Yeah.
That tiger plum came out of nowhere.
Man, I hear they're going to fill it up with water a little bit later on.
How are you on the boat?
That's what I want to see.
Because, yeah, they always just, as a default for American movies and audiences,
when it's old Greek or Roman or whatever, we just give them British access.
Well, in speaking of Denzel, too,
Denzel seemingly always plays the same character in every single movie.
He's either the good guy that's got a little bit of a bad side to him,
or he's the bad guy that you want to see.
get away with it.
Yeah, Denzel, one of the all-time
greats. He really is.
And seemingly a good guy, too.
Really? I'll take your word for it. That's what I've heard. I don't know.
All right. So Gladiator 2
over Wicked. I'm going to try to see both.
And I miss. But you've got to go around
the entire city to see everything IMAs.
Go enjoy. I'm trying to go on Tuesdays.
Half off. Let's go. Okay.
Yeah.
We've got one of those
fine and dines right there, you know,
like where we go.
The Alamo draft house rip-offs.
Pretty much.
That's the OG baby.
Yeah, pretty much.
A lot of those have gone down.
It's right there in the Woodlands Market Street.
So that's usually where we go see movies.
Yeah, looking forward to it.
All right, we're going to take a quick break here on.
That is one hour down with Dan and one hour to go.
We also have non-Florida stories coming up.
Didn't even get into what we wanted to get into here.
We're also going to have coming up your good friend, Barrett Salee.
We're going to be talking all things college football with him.
What are we talking?
Championship.
Yeah, championship.
I'll talk about the number one recruiting class in the land.
Justice Terry.
We could talk that to you.
We could talk that too.
I'm curious to what he has to say about the future of NIL and where it's going,
because it is just the Wild West out there for sure.
It covers it all.
Soup to nuts.
So Barrett Salee coming up, we're going to talk to college football with him.
We also have non-Florida stories coming up as well here on the Matt Thomas show without Matt Thomas.
He is out resting.
He'll be out on Monday as well.
In the meantime, you have Dan Matthews.
You have me, Ross of Uriel, Connemar governor as well.
And Barrett Salee on college football coming up next.
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I mean, it is Dan Talk 790 over here.
My God.
I feel like you get more air time than probably I have in the last six weeks.
It's definitely been.
And Matt was asking to, you know, hey, I've got these.
days and I'm like I'll see man like you know gotta well whatever we're paying you gotta do my thing
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all barrett ross and dan with you here in houston how are things um good just uh
getting ready for a very unique SEC championship game.
I don't know how many people thought we'd have Texas here in this game about five years ago,
because I don't think anybody expected Texas to even be in this conference.
Yet here we are.
It should be a lot of fun.
Yeah, it should be a lot of fun.
We'll definitely get Ted to do in a second.
But I actually had a question of more general.
And we've been talking about this a lot on the show today with all the recruiting stuff that's been happening the last couple of days.
And we've talked about Phil Knight and what he's doing at Oregon.
clearly the boosters at Texas
pointing up the cash this year.
What do you think happens long
term with all this NIL
money that's being spent? Because we've seen at some
programs, for example, A&M, they had the huge
pop in 22, but since that subsided,
you've had some boosters in Miami
and other schools talk about donor fatigue.
But then these other schools keep popping
up, and I mean, I don't know if Phil Knight can even
possibly get in love with, save him
dying. I don't know if he's going to get donor fatigue.
What is the future of the
college landscape as it goes? As it goes,
with NIL. When does the government step in? Or how long is it going to be the Wild
West? This is what it feels like right now. Well, revenue sharing is coming. And I think that
sort of will stabilize everything. Because the NIL, the collectives, you know, I think they
overspent for everything, right? Like you mentioned Texas A&M of the 26 players who signed with
that historic class, I think only 11 or 10 or 11 are still there. And so donor fatigue will be real,
especially for a lot of these guys who are paid handsomely that just don't pan out.
So I think when revenue sharing kicks in, you're going to see a little bit more structure.
Will there be deals done under the table?
Sure.
But I kind of liken this whole thing to a pendulum, right?
Ten years ago, I mean, everybody would be floored by Cam Newton making $180,000,
which is chump change now.
And then now you've got $12 million from quarterbacks going,
from LSU to Michigan. Sorry, Dan. And then now it's going to come back to the middle with revenue
sharing. So I think it's just a natural progression. And, you know, as far as the government,
I don't trust anything the federal government does at this point. But I think it'll stabilize just
with the revenue sharing that's coming. Barrett Slee again, joining us, a host of college football
smothered in cover. You can also hear him on Sirius XM College, Channel 84. Let's talk about the game
tomorrow, Barrett. I mean, this is a game that I'm pretty sure after October.
over 15th, Texas was looking at it and saying, gosh, we'd really like to have those guys again.
What could be the storyline tomorrow if Texas is able to exact revenge?
Well, they do to Carson Beck, what they did to Carson Beck last time.
You know, you guys saw it firsthand, and folks around my part in the state of Georgia just sort of choose to ignore the fact that Carson Beck was outright bad in that game against Texas.
And honestly, Trevor E.T.N scored the touchdowns, but they weren't very good on the ground either.
That offense was pretty dreadful, and that's a credit to Texas's defense, which has been pretty solid all season long, to say the least.
So I think they're going to have to do to Carson Beck what they did last time and hope they get a little bit better offensive line plays and without Kelvin Banks or with the limited Kelvin Banks, whatever happens with him.
That's going to be difficult.
But I think that's the biggest thing is if they do to Carson Beck what they did last time,
they should at least give themselves a puncher's chance as long as they're able to figure out how to block Michael Williams and some of those guys.
And look, talking to some folks around here, you know, there is a lot of scuttlebutt around that defense that, you know,
maybe after a lot of those players put that Texas game on tape, they kind of backed off a little bit.
And I don't know how much validity there is to that.
But that kind of mindset could linger, even if you do go all out.
You know, you might not necessarily know what your true all out is if you're looking to go to the pros.
So, you know, I think it's going to be, you know, a situation where, you know, if they can just repeat what they did defensively,
they're probably going to give themselves a chance.
but that would definitely center around their offensive line playing just a little bit better to say the least.
What's your opinion of Quinn Ewers as a quarterback in general and especially considering keeping in mind that he was benched the last time these two teams met?
My opinion of him is that he does not have a ceiling that's nearly as high as I thought it was and then a lot of people thought it was, but his floor is pretty high, right?
he's not going to go out there and make stupid mistakes like Carson Beck will,
like a lot of other quarterbacks in the SEC.
Well, Jalen Milrose.
So, you know, to me, he is, he's a, he's an above average quarterback who is not necessarily
going to be a difference maker in every single game, but he's certainly not going to lose
the games.
And I think in the SEC this year, that's, that plays well because, you know, it is so,
you know, Jekyll and Hyde essentially with every single team.
And so, you know, as far as moving forward.
forward of the pros. I have no idea. I don't scout
people like that. But I think
right now for me he's a
perfect quarterback for this particular
season in the southeastern
conference. And he's going to
have to be better. He's going to have to show a
higher ceiling if they're going to win the national championship
because, you know, Dylan
Gabriel has not slowed down at all
this year, right? So I mean, if Oregon's
going to continue to do what it does, it's going to
be hard for Texas to keep up
and if that becomes a track meet
if that ends up being a matchup at some point.
So, you know, I think he's really solid.
Quinn's really solid, but he does not have the upside that I thought he'd have.
Because, you know, hell, I paid him to win the Heisman Trophy.
So that shows you exactly where I thought he'd be.
How dare you, Barrett?
How dare you?
All right.
Let's flip it up to Charlotte, though, because I know the game that's of somewhat local interest around here,
SMU and Clemson.
There's a lot of scuttle about SMU.
They lose this game.
Hey, they should still be in.
what do you have to say about that?
Do you think that the committee would honestly, if SMU loses, put them in?
Dan, I have no idea what the committee's thinking right now.
For 11 years, we heard we'll start with the blank sheet of paper, clean slate, blah, blah, blah.
And then suddenly Ward manual's like, oh, yeah, yeah, they're all set in stone on Tuesday.
Wait a minute.
That's not how it works.
And they did mention that SMU, they said hypothetically SMU could drop below Alabama,
but then they don't want to talk about hypotheticals.
Whatever.
But I don't think they're going to,
I don't think they're going to punish SMU that much, right?
Like they ran the table in the ACC.
That is, that's really hard to do for anybody, right?
I don't care that the ACC is down.
Doing it is hard.
Their one lost right now to BYU is a pretty quality loss.
Their second with Clemson would be a quality loss as well.
Alabama has two of their three losses are inexcusable.
So I think that would matter.
But above all else, I don't think they're going to punish any team for playing their way into a game that they lose.
You know, I've kind of thought about this.
And to me, I think these championship games in an expanded playoff are going to be basically like how the basketball committee treats conference championship tournaments.
I hate comparing football to basketball.
But in this case, I think they will, in a sense that you can play your way up in a conference championship game.
But unless you lose in the first round in epic fashion, you're not really going to play your way back down.
And I hope that's how they approach it.
But, Dan, I have no idea what to expect with this committee anymore, to be honest with you.
I don't think anybody does.
Do you, talking with Barrett Salih here on a sports talk 790, do you think they should keep
the automatic bids for conference championships or conference champions or do away with it?
Automatic bids are the dumbest thing in all of sports.
I don't like them in pro sports.
I am a Falcons fan.
There are several years where I wouldn't even want my Falcons making the playoffs if they're
7 and 9 or 7 and 10.
And that's been a possibility.
And especially in a sport like college football, you have 134 teams.
Every conference is built differently.
There's, you know, they're scheduling differences are as wide as the Grand Canyon sometimes.
Why should anybody get an automatic bid?
But, you know, these are, this is the system that all these guys voted on.
All these commissioners are out for themselves.
They know that they need to have a chance to get in with their conference champion regardless.
So, you know, it's not going to change.
But like I said, I think automatic bids.
are ridiculous based on conferences, based on geography, based on whatever.
You know, none of those things actually prove if you're a great team or not.
Barrett, you know, as far as we go for the CFP,
do you think that it is going to be set up well enough where we can have every single of these
wildcard weekend games be competitive?
Or do you think that we're in for two, three of them to be, well, kind of wasting my time watching that one?
I think a few of them are going to be pretty bad.
Like, I think UNLV is going to win tonight.
So you'd get what?
UNLV at Notre Dame or Georgia slash Texas.
I mean, come on.
That's going to be a blowout.
And then, like, look, I like Indiana.
I really do.
If they get, you know, Alabama or whatever, it's going to be sad, right?
So, yeah, I mean, there are going to be a few that are just ridiculous.
And automatic bids are a part of that, right?
Like, that's just, that's the way things are.
And, you know, they're not going to change.
Like I said, they've got to throw some of these conferences and conference commissioners of bone.
And, you know, they get what they need and they're going to get that money.
But, yeah, I think some of these first round games, they might be aesthetically pleasing because they're on home campus stadiums and that'll be cool for playoff games.
but, you know, I would imagine that in some of these,
they look a lot like those paycheck games that everybody complains about early in September.
And, I mean, final one for me here is, you know,
you get Ryan Day losing to Michigan for the fourth time in a row.
I know that the AD said the other day, but not only him,
but Lincoln Riley as well.
I mean, we've seen late in the cycle firings before.
Do you envision that maybe SC or Ohio State could, you know,
say Ohio State gets bounced in the first round,
that finally you could have Ross Bork saying, yeah, it's been real, Ryan, but we're moving on.
Well, I don't think with USC, although Lincoln Riley is way overrated, but I don't think it's going to happen.
I think with Ryan Day, you kind of have two different camps at work, right?
You have, I would think, a relatively younger group of influencers that say, hey, look, it's the national championship.
That's more important than the rivalry.
And then you have older folks who say, no, no, no, rivalry over everything.
those two have been sort of at odds over the last three years
but if they lose a playoff game in round one
they're going to be all kind of together or at least closer together
and so it wouldn't surprise me if they lose a playoff game
especially if it's big especially if it's at home
which it looks like they will be playing a home game unless some chaos and
soos so it wouldn't terribly it wouldn't surprise me terribly if they decide
to move on because like look if you're good but not great
that can only last for so long at a place like Ohio State that at some point you've got to break through.
At some point you've got to win a national championship.
And if you're close, okay, that's tolerable most of the time.
But if you're close, you never break through and you don't beat your rival,
especially in a year when your rival can't complete a forward pass, yeah, that change might have to happen.
Hey, final one here.
If you follow Barrett on Twitter at Barrett Sali is where you can find them.
What is this thing that you posted that they're going to be serving tomorrow at Mercedes-Benz Stadium?
It's a rack of ribs that looks like a bowl, and it's got all kinds of stuff in the middle.
It's got sour cream, cheese, kettle chips, and it looks like a volcano, and there are only 100 dishes of it,
and Texas fans and Georgia fans get to pick which one they want.
and the Georgia version has St. Louis
ribs with a sweet tea honey sauce,
and then the Texas version is Texas ribs with Chipotle Barbecue.
Do we have a calorie count on that?
More than you should have in a day.
I'm just going to go venture that, I guess.
All right, that is Barrett's Lee.
Thanks so much for the time joining us here on Sports Talk 790 in Houston.
Barrett, let the folks know where they can find your content.
Yeah, you can download, watch whatever the College of Ball Smudden covered daily show.
You can catch it on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, all that stuff.
Series XM, we'll do a Sunday morning recap show, and I'm sure that will be lively.
And then columns on Outkick basically recapping the entire weekend.
All right, there you go.
Barrett, thanks for the time.
Appreciate it.
We'll talk to you down the road.
You're the best, buddy.
Thanks, y'all.
See you, bud.
All right, there you go.
Barrett'sa Lee here on Sports Talk, 790.
He's one of my top favorite people.
Hey, even more good news, if Texas fans are,
in Atlanta and going to the game tomorrow.
Chick-fil-A is open at the stadium.
Oh, it's a Saturday.
Let's go.
You can get you some chick-fil-A at Mercedes-Benz Stadium.
I can get some chick-fil-a down the street as well.
Eat it, Darren Ravel.
All right, we're going to take a quick break here on the Matt Thomas
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Dan Matthews is here.
We've got non-Florida stories coming up in just a little bit.
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You've got to let this one roll
Eventually it gets there
Eventually it gets there
Sometimes it gets there
Sometimes it takes a while
Kind of like a train
You know
Wheels have to start turning
And then you get enough momentum
You know what
The train starts going
I'm too tired for any of this
You know it's a really big fan of this song
Greg Cook
I would imagine
This is a great song
This is very divisive amongst the people
Or at least it has been in the past
There are some people who hate it
When it comes to Christmas songs
I'm kind of like you
The classics
Nat King Cole
Yes
Yes
A lot of burlives
Don't say it
I think I know what you're going to go
Are you going with Chappelle show?
Ridiculous
Dan are you okay
You drink before the show today?
I might be losing it.
Well, might be.
Maybe I'm already there.
It's lost.
Yeah.
Trying to get the cheese back on the cracker is not an easy thing, you know.
You're in the woods, my friend.
In the weeds, in the everywhere.
Speaking of in the woods, that's going to come up in non-Florida story.
Oh, it is?
My non-Florida story.
Oh, my non-Florida story.
You cannot believe how great of story.
It's unbelievable how good.
Good it is. Is it Korean girls standing in their own puke?
No. I did post that on Instagram, though. I did see that.
When he starts talking like that, he means he hasn't found it yet.
Yeah, I know. That's fine. All right. See, you thought you had a better wingman right there and Connor.
No, that's fine. He's completely outed you. He's learned the tenor of the show.
Hopefully you and Connor never get jammed up in a really sticky situation because that guy's going to roll on you. He will roll on you in a second.
Oh, I'm snitching.
In real life? Oh, he is cutting a deep.
like nobody's business. That plea deal is going to be sweet.
I'll see later, I'll write you.
Whatever. That's rude.
I'll roll over on you too, Connor.
He's going to send for you on the outside.
Better watch your back.
Prisons have phones too.
Actually, I don't know anybody.
But thanks to Barrett Salee for joining us in the last segment talking all things college football.
So, of course, have we decided, are we going to make a bet on this game?
For people who don't know, Dan Matthews is a huge, well, LSU fan, but also a big Georgia fan as well.
I was going to say, I dabble in red and black Georgia fandom because, I mean, look, I've said it numerous times.
I spent over 10 years there.
I developed a lot of really good relationships.
Developed a pretty good working relationship with Mark Rick when he was the head coach there because his kids are adopted.
I'm adopted, so we had that connection.
Oh, you are?
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I was able to develop that
And I've got some still good friends
That are on Kirby Smart's coaching staff
Including one that last night
I fired off a message and said good luck this weekend buddy
I know I know you're getting a million of these
And he already wrote me back and said thanks man
I appreciate it
That is so nice okay well Georgia Bulldogs suck
They're gonna lose and I'm just kidding
So are we making a bet on this game or what's the deal?
Yeah we could do that
Let's see
There's never time for lunch
I'm on from 10 to 2 you're on from 2 to 6
Dinner seems like a lot of a commitment to be honest
No, it's not a huge commitment.
Let's go.
You know what?
I'll buy your ticket to Wicked.
Okay.
That's who we'll do.
To have me hate watch Wicked.
You know what?
You're going to be tapping your toes.
You're going to secretly enjoy it.
It's going to be the foot that's furthest away from you.
The CGI-I look pretty cool.
As a kid, did you ever get freaked out by the Wizard of Oz flying monkeys?
No, I didn't.
The only things that really freaked me on as a kid was Stephen King's It.
And Candyman.
Oh, and Freddie Kruger.
Those are like the top three.
The Mount Rushmore of things that really freaked me out when I was a child.
Wishmaster was another one too as well.
Oh, which one was that?
That was the one where, like, you know, it was basically the whole tagline of the movie was be careful what you wish for.
That sounds vaguely familiar.
I know I've seen it.
I think it was like a straight to TV, HBO movie.
What about the leprechaun?
Remember that guy?
He was kind of creepy, but then he was like leprechaun in the hood.
It got a little bit too crazy.
Leprocon in space.
And you're like, this is ridiculous.
It finally was the studio execs with the executive president.
producers showing up and saying, you're not even trying anymore, are you?
They basically went with like full earnest with the lepricon.
Like, Ernest goes to camp.
It was like, lepricron goes to band camp.
It was like, what are we doing here, lepracom?
It was like Jason Voorhees in space.
It was like, I remember that too.
Yeah, you have somebody on your flight manifest.
By the name of Voorhees.
You better watch out for that guy.
Then he starts axing everybody up there in space.
Oh, yeah, here we go.
Lepricon in the hood was in 2000.
I don't really remember that one.
We have to go through the lepricon series.
at some point.
My God, it got a little,
it got a little bit too crazy over there.
And even like Tales from the Crypt as a kid,
it was really freaky.
But then I remember once in college,
there was a buddy of mine that had the VHS.
So we threw it on.
Yeah, I was in college when VHSs were still somewhat of a thing.
And we watched it.
And I was like, God, this is goofy.
It was the one where Joe Pesci,
he falls for twin sisters.
That sounds vaguely familiar.
Yeah.
And then they ended up cutting.
I want to talk more about the lepricon movie series.
Lepricon one through,
Leprecon four was Leprocon in space.
Okay.
Leprocon in five was Leprocon in the hood.
Leprocon six was Leprocon back to the hood.
So what was the leprickon's tagline?
You thought you were getting me lucky charms?
I don't remember exactly.
He had something like that.
Yeah, I don't know.
It was very bizarre when things got down with the Leproon series.
You think you're getting the pot of gold?
Here's a pot of gold for you.
A cabar.
The first one starred Jennifer Anderson in 1993.
Oh, that must have been like her breakthrough right there.
Maybe. Well, I don't know.
You think anybody if they ever see her on the street, say,
hey, hey, you're from the lepericon.
You're the shit from the leprechaun.
Yeah, probably not, unless they're messing with her.
Okay, on that note, we're going to take a break.
We've got non-Florida stories coming up here on the Matt Thomas show
without Matt Thomas, with Ross.
That's me. Dan Matthews is here.
Connor McGovern is here.
It is a staple segment of the show.
Well, as Matt, I love Florida stories, by the way.
Matt hates them because he thinks.
thinks they're low-hanging fruit. But anyways,
if we're going to go outside of the Florida
with Florida-style stories. See, this is a
rebellious show right here. I mean, this
is... Should we do Florida stories?
This is... Well,
I mean, mine is a true non-Florida
story. Okay. But,
I mean, yeah, this is the house party
when the parents go out of town. So,
no rules here. Okay.
Just don't break the vase.
We'll still do non-Florida stories. I don't want to make Matt
too upset. But that's coming up next year on the Matt
Thomas show with Ross.
Well, hello. Welcome back.
To the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Dan Matthews here.
Excuse me. Ross 2.0.
Let's move on. I'm not even bringing that up. No.
Relax.
What was I saying? Dan Matthews is here. I'm here, Ross. Hi. Ross 1.0 is here. Connemargevin here as well.
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All right, now, time for some non-Florida stories here on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
All right, this is the segment.
We take time out every week to bring you some wacky stories,
but the wacky stories from Florida are banned in this segment.
So you've got to go outside of that state.
And, well, Dan, you seem like you're a riprarier to go for a long time with your story.
So let's go ahead and let you have at it with your non.
Florida story.
Yeah, it's right here in our Fair City of Houston.
Home invasion suspect
climbs tree.
Okay. Prompting SWAT standoff.
This happened in the 2,600
block of Reed Road, not even sure
where that is. It was just
after 630 on Tuesday night when
police responded to the report of a
home invasion. According to police,
when officers got there, they saw one
of two suspects fire at
someone at the home.
Then both suspects took off.
took off on foot into the woods.
No one was struck by gunfire.
That's good.
Police would then set up a perimeter around the woods
and then they would deploy the canines, the dogs,
release the hounds. They did that.
Once officers entered the woods,
they say that one suspect was quickly taken in the custody
because one of the dogs caught up to them.
And then they were taken to a hospital, treated,
and bandaged up, and then they said,
all right, you're going to the poke.
The second suspect who was armed took off running and ended up climbing a tree.
This led to officers having to say roll SWAT.
SWAT shows up. Hostess negotiators are there.
Wow.
They were giving verbal commands for hours before finally taking the suspect into custody just around at 1230 in the morning on Wednesday.
He was checked out by EMS and then, like his buddy, take him to the poke.
Wow.
Reed Road looks like south,
yeah,
pretty much a pure south area of the town.
Around,
this says Brookhaven,
or it's really big,
not far from the airport.
Okay.
Let's just say there.
It's got wooded areas around there?
You've got woods everywhere.
Okay.
It's Houston, Texas, baby.
We're in the Piney Woods.
All right.
And we know we've chopped a lot of them down to build buildings,
but there's still a lot of them standing up.
We've still got a good amount of them more alive.
Yeah, a good amount of the old Piney Woods.
Okay.
Thank you, Dan, for your non-Florida story.
Economer Gouverne, I'm letting you go next.
Okay, we'll hear the story of Tommy Banks.
He's a chef who owns two Michelin-Star restaurants
and a pub in Northern English County of Yorkshire.
One night, a member of his staff noticed that one of their catering vans was missing.
Turns out the van was stolen.
What was in the van?
Over 2,500 pies.
It was steak and ale, turkey and butternut squash pies intended for a Christmas.
market. Turkey and oh, there's a meat pies. Yeah. All the pies valued over $32,000. Good news. The police
eventually found the van with stolen licensed place and the pies still inside. Bad news, the pies were
damaged, damaged and had to be discarded. The article said the van was insured, but what about all
the pies that were worth over 30 Gs? Does the chef gives money back for that? I'm not sure,
but yes, a pie heist in the UK. And that's my non-Florida story. Wow.
They're really big.
Stolen turkey pies.
The Brits are this time of year.
They're meat pies.
You know, I think, though, don't they say crime goes up around Christmas time?
Yeah.
Michael Barry just told us.
He did?
Yeah.
I wasn't listening.
Great southern doors.
Oh, okay.
So they probably just wanted to steal the van, but when you steal a van and notice all the pies, do you try to eat them?
Do you eat any?
Ask Jason Biggs.
Well, he did something else with those pies back in the day.
Oh, that was a, what a classic that was.
All right, anyways, let's move on.
I'm going to go with mine on Florida Story,
and it's not necessarily a crime or anything like that,
but how familiar are you?
Dan and Well and Connor as well with the champagne of beers.
Miller High Life.
It was never one of my favorites.
I get the job done in college, though.
We used to have, we used to play a poker game,
and the guys would always have a keg of High Life.
So every $20 you bought in, they took $250,
it was all you could drink.
I was a Maddie guy.
Maddie Ice?
Not Ice.
Maddie Light?
Maddie Light.
Yeah, you're sick.
If you're going cheapo, you got to go Keystone.
I was going to say, it was usually that at the frat parties.
Maddie ice tastes like charcoal.
It's terrible.
It was nice.
Oh, I'm sorry, light, light.
Either way.
Come on, man.
I'm going, look, I'm doing the rankings right here.
Keystone one.
Lone Star, no, Lone Star one.
Oh, Lone Star is fantastic.
Lone Star, I still.
I still drink.
Keystone, then I'm going High Life.
I'm putting Natty back in the back of the rear.
See, a lot of people are big on the PBR.
I am not a PBR.
I feel like it's in regionally to Texas.
This is not something that pops up much.
All right, there you go.
There are your cheap beer rankings.
Well, I got Miller High Life in the rankings,
and I am pleased to announce that Mill Life has introduced a limited edition fragrance.
It's called Dive Barfume.
It's designed to embody the aroma of your local.
bar. It is priced at just $60 per bottle. The unique scent promises to evoke, quote,
the bar counter that smells like cedarwood, the musky scent of those worn-in leather bar stools,
and the sea salt from the basket of fries and popcorn, and the crisp aroma,
when the bartender cracks open your champagne of beers. Interesting. For just $60, it can be yours,
and apparently... You said 60? Yes. Oh, wow.
Apparently, these bottles of Miller High Life barfume are already selling out.
There's been a huge run on the bottles of barfume.
Would you like one for Christmas?
I'm going to pass.
I thought that for sure you were going to say that it was also the aroma of cigarette smoke.
Actually, it's completely sold out, is what I'm reading.
They're trying to manufacture some more.
And so you can get your live barfume via Miller High Life.
Just $60.
Imagine the chemistry that goes.
into that. Do you wear a cologne?
I used to. I'm a, I'm a
body spray guy. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you're
married now, it's fine. Or you're affianced.
You didn't get it. You haven't tied it out officially
yet, right? Not yet. Okay. No, I just do the
quick little 360 and
I'm good. What about you? You're a young hip happening, man.
Are you, uh, are you getting, uh, using the,
using the cologne? Yeah, when I'm going out.
Oh, okay. All right. All right. Every day, like,
going to work or whatever, I do the body spray. Do you want some barfume?
Uh, no, okay. Okay. Okay. Well.
That's fine. Does your hand stick to the bottle, like your shoes stick to the bottom of the floor?
That sounds disgusting. And also if it smells like a dive bar, does it smell like cigarette smoke too?
I don't know. 60 bucks a bottle, I think I'm going to pass as well.
Usually the bars that are outside the beltway are the ones that still allow you to light up.
Like there's one that I go to that they have an actual section.
Like it's behind a door that you can go sit in. I've never once been in there.
Hmm. Hmm. Okay.
All right, well, there you go.
Those are our non-fluor stories here on a sports talk 790.
Do you pass judgment on someone like you pass them in the hallway here
and you can totally tell that they just went in dutched oven?
I do.
When does this happen to you?
Does this happen often?
There's somebody down the hall that I've passed and I'm like, it's 2024.
It's still sad.
It's Adam Wexler, isn't it?
It's not wax.
Okay, I'm just kidding.
You know what?
It's not wax out on the back.
I don't even know how to respond to that statement.
The back park benches back there, the picnic benches.
This question has made me quite uncomfortable, and I'm going to go to break.
That's going to do it for this segment of the Matt Tommy show with Ross.
What's making you uncomfortable?
People smoking cigarettes.
Oh, I thought you, that's not what a Dutch oven is to me.
It can have both meanings.
Hmm.
I thought you were talking about the other Dutch oven.
No, no, no, no, no.
What Dutch oven are you talking about?
I just remembered once there was one of my friends that used to smoke and whenever he'd come in the room.
Oh, is that?
I called a Dutch oven.
That's not what me and my folks back in my day called a Dutch oven.
Well, I know what that is, too.
But there was a buddy of mine named Drew who would say, ha, Dutch oven in here.
Okay.
All right, time for a break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
So we're with you until 2 o'clock.
And there is no, believe it or not, sorry, prize whores.
But if you want to get in, we're talking to any number of things you want to get to.
They'll call in at like 3 o'clock or 2.
Yeah, hey, I'm here to play, believe it or not.
You're too late.
Do people do that?
Oh, God, yeah.
Oh, I love it.
Oh, you prize horse.
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And eventually you heard it over and over,
and you got worn down, and you're like, you know what, all right, fine, this is the jam.
This song is that for me.
I used to hate this song, and now I'm like,
dang, this is kind of a jam.
I came around on it.
Didn't this used to be a part of the Bill Hader Dances to Twitter account?
Possibly?
I'm not familiar with that.
Bill Hader, like, doing kind of like the dancing to things.
Okay.
I imagine this is a video.
It almost kind of looked like the Trump dance.
Oh, okay.
A little bit.
I'll take your word for it.
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I was mentioning this earlier on the show, Dan, wanted to get your perspective.
Did you catch the Thursday night football game between the Lions and the Green Bay Packers last night?
Absolutely, I did.
And I even threw it out on Twitter last night.
Thursday night football has had some bangers this year.
They've had some good ones.
I think it's a bit of a mix.
I think Amazon probably came to the table.
It feels like everybody has.
Like, hey, stop giving us all these crap matchups.
They got rid of the rule where.
everybody has to appear on once, and I think that's kind of helped.
Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, I think that probably Bezos picked up the phone for Roger and just said,
hey, man, look, like shelling out a lot of money here.
I mean, I've got my play-by-play guy who's kind of on his last leg as is, but, I mean,
he's going to gambling talk here midway through the game.
I can't have that.
I've got to have the third and fourth quarter actually matter.
Yeah, I think it's been very clear that Amazon and Jeff Bezos was like,
yo, come on, bro.
we're shilling all this cash and Al Michaels by the way needs to be retired I'm sorry
he needs to go quietly into that good night he's sleepwalks through every game now see you're
looking at it the wrong way like Al Michaels is doing this because he's saying what are you
gonna do fire me well yes fine I'll sit on my millions I'll go play at you know whatever
country club in L.A he'll go eat at that yeah he'll go eat at that steakhouse that he's
been through to 5,000 times or whatever it is and never orders a vegetable yeah that's that's
hey look you know sometimes
it's kind of one of those things that that's the key.
Like you go to the doctor and they tell you,
I'm a little bit less red meat.
And then your health problems really show up.
It's like, dude, they had it right in the 60s and 70s smoking non-filtered.
Yeah.
Just eating like absolute garbage.
They're fine.
Yeah, they live to like 115.
Well, that's also, what is that called?
Survivorship bias?
The ones that did make it are the ones you don't really necessarily.
Right.
The ones that did die from heart disease.
Right. But anyway, so what I found myself saying last night,
and really anytime the lions are on is
I want D'Amico Ryans
maybe not to go full board
Dan Campbell going for every single fourth down
but I love the aggressiveness
I love playing for a win
and I know it's not the same because
well the Texans don't have the offensive line
that the Lions do arguably
arguably the best offensive line in football
but I love
the playing to win
factor from Dan Campbell
did bite him in the playoffs last year
they went for a fourth and three
they were in field goal range, down a field goal, and everybody got all upset.
It bit them last night in the first and third and, I mean, fourth and one from their own 31.
But at the end of the day, they won the game.
They went for that fourth down.
They were aggressive.
I would rather my coach be too aggressive rather than too conservative.
I think you got to build up to that too.
I mean, I think that it's a, you know, again, you talked about it.
He's got a lot of trust in that offensive line for good reason because they're really good.
And I mean, with the Texans, I think Damiko kind of looks at it as this offense can't even get the basic stuff right.
And then that's what kind of cracks me up to is, you know, then with them not being able to get the basic offense right, when Bobby starts employing the gimmicks.
And it's just like, well, who knew that wasn't going to work out, Bobby?
You can't even pick up short yardage on a third and one when you really needed, you know, that one yard to be able to keep the drive alive.
Yeah.
So I just think in general, though.
I mean, Joe Mixon mentioned it, I think, a few weeks ago.
I think it was the Packers game that they had lost
where it just felt like they were playing
rather than playing to win,
they were playing not to lose.
And if I have a criticism of Domeko Ryans,
I love him as a coach for the most part
and everything that he does.
But the game management, for the most part,
he does a good job.
But I would like to see a little bit more aggressiveness,
maybe not even jumping straight into Dan Cabell Stratosphere,
which he's like one out of 32 as far as most aggressive coaches in football.
But a little bit more aggressiveness, I think, goes a long way.
And I think it helps you, especially a team where, you know,
excuse me, you're changing the win probabilities from like 52 to 54% or whatever.
It's small increments.
But that matters over the course of a season.
That matters if you're trying to win playoff games.
And I know, like we said, it's bitten them before.
But it also, to me, helps them a lot more than it hurts.
I mean, I see what you're saying too.
But I mean, it's also, too, you know, the number one role in coaching in any sport,
but especially football, know your personnel.
Demico's not being more aggressive because he doesn't trust, especially his offensive personnel.
Their running has been good. I mean, you need a fourth and one. Joe Mixen's been one of the better running backs and all
of football. The path blocking has been terrible, but for the most part, the run blocking has been pretty
solid. They've been really good this year. But I think it's also two to your point is, all right,
hey, we can go for it on fourth and one. And then say we pick it up, but uh-oh, somebody wasn't
lined up properly. Somebody held penalty. Yeah, a lot, a number of things can go wrong. Like last night on
that last fourth and one, Jared Goff fell down.
See, and that's what I wondered too is because I thought that that if you, if someone
steps on you, you're contacted, you're down.
Not your own teammate, no.
Okay.
All right.
No, no, no, no.
He's not down.
He has to be giving yourself up.
I was like, wait a minute.
No, that's not down by contact.
No, no, no, no.
That's not, I don't believe if your own player contact, you have to be giving yourself
up or you contacted by a defender.
We've had a lifetime this week of learning about players giving themselves up,
especially those QBs.
Oh, well, Trevor Lawrence.
Is that what you're talking about?
He gave himself up.
And then Aziz, I'll share her,
send him into Mars.
Which, by the way, too,
you know, that's the whole thing as well.
You can't tell me there wasn't gamesmanship
on the Jacksonville side of he's on IR for the season.
So then everybody could start, oh my God, see?
He ended his season.
He should never play again this season.
He's on IR because he's undergoing left shoulder surgery.
Yeah, because of the shoulder is why he was placed on IR.
It was convenient how that came out about
20 minutes after the Alshire news came out.
Very convenient.
How convenient.
All right, time for the show to end.
That's it.
Dan, thanks for hanging out for a couple hours.
We got Adam and Adam.
They're both staring at us.
Do appreciate you.
Thanks to Barrett Salee for coming on the show.
Thanks to Chris Gordy for hanging out the first couple of hours.
Thanks to Connemer Goverin for producing all of this.
And thanks to you for listening to the show.
I do appreciate it.
I will talk to you folks on Sunday, I think, on coverage for the Houston.
Rockets, but for now, it's Adam Wexler and it's Adam Planton. They call themselves
the A team. And they're next here on Sports Talk 7-9.
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