The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Astros Take the Game In Flashy Walk Off Home-run Sitting 1-1 In the Series, Final Game Tonight !

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

Astros Take the Game In Flashy Walk Off Home-run Sitting 1-1 In the Series, Final Game Tonight !

It might seem crazy what I'm about to say. First pitch swinging, ground ball to the third baseman Paredes. He back hands, goes to second out. Rogers to first double play. That's what Frumber does. Great play by Paredes. Good turn by Rogers. And the Astros are out of the gym.

We played three and a half. Because I'm happy. Kemp in the two-up. Ground ball left side, right at Pena. It's a second for one. Rogers to first double play. Second double play turn by the Astros infield in his many innings.

Over to third goes past Ventino, but two big outs. That's not the type of pitch. You think you're going to get a ground ball on. That was elevated quite a bit above the belt. Red Pro still topped it. No offense to you. You strike pit. In Kenya Rockets went deep to left field, and you can kiss it.

Goodbye. For the sixth time this year. Astros beat. We know they left the dugout. Everybody's happy, right? Astros win? We didn't get good framer last time. We got great Frumber.

Ace Frumber is back, baby. We got a walk-off, and we got the game played in two hours and eight minutes. I mean, my goodness. What a night. Lovely. Can't ask for much more than that. More time for the city of Houston to lock in on the NBA playoffs. Maybe not.

But that's okay. I don't think so. It was good for me as a television watcher last night. That's for sure. Good morning, everyone. Our time is 1040. It is a Wednesday edition of the program. and we are with you today until 2 p.m. as we are each and every day, 10 o'clock until 2.

They give us 20 hours a week to. Oh, we love it. Converse with you, folks. We love it, Matt. How about Chris Bubich, 6 and a 3rd innings, one run ball? You don't get a win. Framber Valdez, eight innings of one run ball. You don't get a win.

Baseball is cruel. It is a cruel, but that's why the whole thing about 300 wins is going to be something that we'll never discuss again. Never, ever, ever. 250 might be out of the way. Yeah, I mean, it might be the automatic, might be 200, which doesn't feel like it should be an automatic. But I think we're frankly moving in a time where we're seeing pitch counts,

mean more in the last 15 to 20 years we ever had before. Yes, and guys are still ripping up their UCLs. Yeah. I mean, the reality is, you know, when, this is even before I was even watching baseball. I mean, you had Bob Gibson and you had Tom Siever and you had early Nolan Ryan. you had all these guys that were going deep in the games. I mean, they were throwing 10 inning games. If you would have told Nolan Ryan in 1974 about a six-man rotation,

you were the hell you talking about. Not on Mike any sense, Matt. No. I threw 188 pitches every time I went on the mile. And then I threw two innings the next day. Yeah. It's a different time. Yeah.

It is a different time. And that's why I think the shifting of the automatics are in. I also believe that 3,000. hits is an automatic. I mean, it's always been that way. There's nobody that hasn't hit for 3,000 snot in the baseball. Well, that's actually not true. Pete Rose is it. Rafael Palmero. Okay, excuse me, let me, let me preface.

Those that have not been associated with something of illegal activity. I think, did Barry Bonds get over? That I can't tell you. I can't remember. I want to say no, but I can't remember. But Palmero and Pete Rose will be the two that come right to mind. And we

will get to Pete Rose on the conversation board today. By the way, I might have a little bit of a of a different take on the Pete Rose situation. Not necessarily controversial. Yeah. But kind of not a, well, of course that's what baseball was supposed to do. Matter of fact, I'll do it right now. So Pete Rose and Shulis Joe and some others were now reinstated back into eligibility

for potential enshriment into baseball's Hall of Fame. Yes. And it had to be a veterans committee to do that at this point. The reality to me is it's kind of a duh moment. When someone has a lifetime ban, that means that technically when they're dead, the band is over with. Now, while Shoeless Joe is now for as long as he has is a different issue. But Pete Rose served a lifetime ban. And I don't mean to be right on the, you know, deal with absolutes here.

but if you don't live anymore and you're no longer with us, the ban is over, right? Help me out with this. I mean, I guess logically, but it would be a lifetime banishment. Would that mean the lifetime of the Hall of Fame? What about that? No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but it still should be for all time.

Can you explain this to me? Why are they being reinstated? They cheated in bed on baseball. Am I? I feel like that's and I just don't get it. now Shulis Jackson, Joe Jackson, people point to his stats. They were good in that World Series, so he didn't throw the games as much,

but he knew about it, and he was complicit, and he didn't say anything, and the series was thrown. And all of the Black Sox got reinstated, correct? That is correct. There were several that you don't know their name, Joe. They're actively fixing a World Series. Why?

I don't understand. I just don't get it. Because I do believe it comes down to, well, in Petsy's case, it's easy because he passed within the last year, but the rest of the guys, Yeah, but he battled baseball. Why would you wait all these years?

Yeah. Keep him out of the Hall of Fame. I'm okay with that. So let me give you my second take on this. Okay. Just because he is now eligible for it, I still got a pretty good feeling he's not getting in. Okay.

And I don't know if it's because of enough old school people are in there. Now, help me out, is he doesn't go like into eligible like he gets voting on every year. It's a veterans committee. Yeah, I think it would be a veterans thing. It's a veteran thing. And I think the veterans probably Rossi. I was told this 20 years ago. go the veterans are probably more pissed off than the regular print media, the baseball writers

do it. Yeah, but time heals all wounds and maybe the Veterans Committee wasn't as right now as many contemporaries as there once was. I don't know. No, that's fair. But a Veterans Committee is always going to have veterans on it. It's always going to have guys that have been around 45 years. Things always, yeah.

It probably seemed like a much, much bigger deal to people who lived through that when that scandal happened. Reading about it in a book doesn't give you the feeling of walking around when that happened. Like, I mean, I don't want to compare it. Like, major, I don't want to say 9-11 and JFK assassination, but you get my point. Like when major sports things happen and scandals happen. Like when the O.J. Simpson thing was happening, that was way more nuts than it is than just reading about it and watching a documentary. Or the Tiger Woods scandal or whatever.

Here, and I've really, I'll be honest with you, in the last 30 years, I have gone back and forth on Pete. And my, on my flots fan this. And I don't know if it's because I'm inconsistent or I just wake up with a different tone on it. And we don't talk about it a whole lot. It was certainly a conversation piece very early in my broadcast career. A lot of me says there's a lot of guys in the baseball hall of fame that have done way worse things. Okay? That's part of me.

Another part of me says the rule is all over the place. Every year, Major League Baseball talks to its players. Every time you go to a clubhouse, there are a list of UK. cannot do's. And the number one thing that you cannot do list is bet on baseball. And it's, it's, there's no, there's no, there's no gray area, black and white. There's no, uh, what do you call ambiguity. Ambiguity. Ambiguity. It is if you bet on baseball, you are permanently, you are, you have a lifetime ban. So there's no misunderstanding. There's, and the thing is he did it for a long period of time.

And the worst part of it for me is that he never showed remorse, Rossi, until he had to sell a book. Correct. That's kind of my, I just don't get it. Like, why is he being reinstated? Or I guess it's a reinstatement just because he's dead and it was a lifetime ban? Yeah. Is that what you're going with? I'm going off the lines of it.

Joe Jackson's been dead for a long, long time. It's easier to reinstate the all-time hit king when he's dead than to have a conversation with him while he's alive. So I wasn't blown away by the news of yesterday. And I also thought the second thing I thought of was, I don't know if it could take him while to get in if it ever does. It's the 16-member classic baseball era committee, which would get him in, and they do not meet again until 2027 for some reason.

I don't know if they meet every five years or one. Yeah, it's a couple years, yeah. So I would go ahead and I know we don't do gut feelings, so maybe I'll save it for next week. I don't know if 2027 is the year that Pete Rose gets in. And if you're Pete Rose's family, Do you even show up? Do you go, man, you see you waited for the guy to die before you get let him in?

And then ultimately, I get mad at Pete because I wish Pete would have shown some remorse because we are a forgiving society. And if Pete would have said, God, I goofed up and I'm sorry and what can I do to make up for this, I think baseball would have gotten an opportunity to say, all right, people make mistakes, we'll let you back in. No, yeah, he denied and he lied about it. And an active baseball manager was betting on. games.

In his own games. You just can't do that. I'm sorry. But even, again, I don't know what I can tell you is if he would have shown any bit of remorse. Ross, we are a forgiving society.

Yeah. We are. But he didn't. And what did he do the rest of his life? He sold his signature. He sold his autographs. Yeah, he made more money because of all this. And he was doing betting shows and he was doing this.

And then finally, he writes the book and fesses up. And then that was even a disingen. continuous conversation. And look, Pete's not the most savory, was never the most savory person. I mean, hell of a ball player, great teammate, but I don't think under the list of wonderful human beings, Pete Rose is on the top ten of that list. I mean, you and I are certainly not. There was a funny tweet.

He said Pete is looking up at us and smiling now. Oh, funny that is. I don't want to go to hell, provided there is one. It's not your judgment to make, Matt. It is not my judgment. They didn't ask my opinion. So I just, it was just a real bizarre day for me yesterday that there was so much outrage on the Twitter streets of, you know, oh, Manfred, you did this now. You know, you couldn't even do it while he was alive. How much did Pete want to really do something?

He didn't deserve it. I'm sorry. I don't understand. Like I said, if someone can explain it to me, I'm open-minded about it. But just from my eyes, he was an active manager in baseball, betting on games, including his own. That deserves lifetime management. I mean, it's as cut and dry as it gets, and that's the thing I can't shake. If somebody has a counter argument, I'm open to it. Well, because the counter argument was you don't know. There was other people that probably didn't get caught. Okay, I'm sorry.

There's people that get away with murder. That doesn't mean we shouldn't lock up murderers. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I understand. I understand. All right. OJ.

That was for Adam Clinton. He was probably asleep. There's no chance Adams listen to show right now. That's okay. We appreciate him. He's probably doing another review. Facebook video or something or working on his YouTube page. All right, ladies and gentlemen on the radio program today.

So we've been trying to think of a definitive name for the 1130 segment today. And I don't even know if this is even going to be any good. I don't even know if this is going to work for even one week. But we usually do shut your bum ass up. We're going to do this week. Good to hear from you. Well, just tell us life stories. You're going to do the opposite.

Instead of telling somebody to shut their bum ass up, you're going to say, man, it's good to hear from you. Ross, I have a feeling this is going to be a complete disaster. I think it's be good. Are you sure? Maybe. I do not think this is going to go well. I've got to come up with something. Good to hear from you, and please tell me more.

That's going to be coming up today. Oh, I have on the show. We have Brian Bogussevick at 11 o'clock. We'll get his thoughts on the Astros' impressive win, which he worked pregame yesterday for Space City. The news at noon, we've got, believe it or not, and we have you at 713-212. 5.790. 713. 212.790. Our time is 1015. It is a Matt Thomas Showwood-Ross. We thank you very much for

spending the next three hours and 45 minutes with us here on Sports Talk 790. So one of the arguments about Pete Rose being in, despite all the things we talked about, was the things he did to get Hall of Fame status is as an active player. And that's without argument. The only argument I have back to

that is, is that you have to be in order to be in baseball's Hall of Fame or eligible to be in baseball's Hall of Fame, you have to be in good standing within the sport of baseball. And Pete Rose, when it was time for him to be eligible to go in the baseball's Hall of Fame, was not in good standing, Lifetime Band. So that kind of, you know, unfortunately, knocks out all of his player accomplishments because the fact that in terms of baseball eligibility, he was not allowed to be existent in the sport. Yeah, I don't know, I'm just having a hard time finding sympathy for the guy Who committed the crime that he did

Lied about it for years Also, by the way, committed statutory rape in the 70s He's sleeping with a 14 year old in his mid-30s That's gross Again My belief is, and this is what I wavered over the years Is that if he would have just come clean within the first, I don't know, year, two, five years, I don't know,

you could have spent the next 15, 20 years of his life rebuilding his image in case. And I think that we would have been a forgiving enough country that there would have been in public support to say, okay, we now reinstate him. But it never happened until the book came out. Because he was looking to turn a profit. And that's what bugged me. Because Pete Rose, when I was a young kid, I loved watching Pete Rose play. I loved the fact, and Charlie Hustle was the term that was used because he just,

He never, ever took a bat off. He never ever took a plate of parents, a running, he used to sprint to first base. He literally was the greatest hustler I've ever seen play, maybe even a professional sport. Dove after everything, played multiple positions, did everything that you ever would ask. And just marveled at his ability to just get at the plate. get base hits over and over and over and over and over again and have success in three different decades. Very few people can say that. Yeah. The stats bear it out. They just do. Yeah. The durability. Great for him. Yeah. But again, huge problem. Monday he'd bet on the Reds, Tuesday he'd bet on

the Reds, Wednesday he'd take a day off. I mean, I could even even build an argument Rossi if he bet the Reds every single day. I'd be okay with that. But the number one argument against him is that when he would not bet the Reds, was he trying to manage the lose or did he know that the guy that he was putting out there? Because when he was a player manager at the time, or just straight out manager, was he thinking, ah, Jose Rio's going out there. We don't have no chance to win. Yeah. And somebody's trying to tweet me about Leo DeRosher and getting suspended for gambling. From what I can tell, Leo DeRosier is playing craps. That's not like betting on baseball.

No, betting on baseball. Apples and oranges. Yeah, you walk into a clubhouse, you're going to see, do not bet on baseball. No organ. Now, here's the hypocrisy of it now. Now, we're also fast forwarding many, many decades. But the hypocrisy is you cannot watch a baseball show or a game without some sort of plus 115, over under five and a half run scored. I mean, it is, and that's with all sports.

Yes, well, so they took the money now. Yeah. So there is hypocrisy from baseball on this. And there's a propensity of all sports. I mean, in the NFL, 40 years ago, you brought up the Cardinals for minus three and a half against the orders. Oh, you can't say that. It's all changed now. In fact, it's probably most of the analysis in sports today is not discussed about how a player does or how a particular team does or how a team's defensive versus an offense.

What was the line tell you? What does Vegas tell you? Yeah, 10 years ago, Tony Romo tried to go to like a fantasy football convention in Las Vegas. And the NFL wouldn't allow him to do that because it was too close to get. gambling. Now it's just 10 years ago. Now they're like giving them a VIP pass. Now it's it's Fandul. Draft Kings, pick six,

which is wonderful. And all these, BetMGM, I mean, ESPN bet, they have their own, everybody has everything because they just took the money. The moral stance went away once the money showed up. Tony and Angleton at 1025 on 790. Tony, good morning. Good morning, guys.

I don't know if the connection is going to be too good. Can you hear me okay? Yes, go ahead. Okay, I'm sorry. Matt, you were pretty, you were pretty on to it about Pete Rose lying. He lied. If he would just come clean right off the bat, like you said, spent 10 to 15 years, you know, reconditioned his image. I think there would have been some forgiveness.

So without being said, Roth, how old are you? Ross Riupville. I am 40. 40. He's 40, but looks 46 to 48. Okay. How much did you get to see Pete Rose play? That would be zero.

Zero, okay. Okay, I just want to tell a quick story. 19, I think it was 77 after Seabird come over to the Reds. The Reds were pretty much still intact. The Astros beat them on, I think it was a Saturday afternoon at the dome like 10 to nothing. And after the game, me and my buddy, we went around to the gate where their buses were. And I'm telling Sparky Anderson, Johnny Bench, you name, all the guys running off the bus. wouldn't stop and sign one autograph.

Three players stayed and signed autographs. One was Pete Rose. One was Ray Knight. One was Davey Concepcion. Three of the biggest scoundrels on that team stayed and signed the autographs. The point I'm trying to make is they had a passion for baseball. They had a passion for the fans and just loved the game. And Bart Giamati, who suspended Pete Rose for life, had a passion for the game. So there's a lot of passions running here.

I think it happened exactly the way that should have. He's gone now. It was a banishment for life. life, he's gone. He's dead now. So he will be honored. And I will predict when he is, when he does finally make it into the Hall of Fame, there will not be enough parking in Cooperstown, New York, to accommodate everybody. Okay. Thank you, Tony. I got another story for you.

John M. Dow on a radio interview in 2016 talked about Pete Rose committing statutory rape. Rose then filed a defamation suit denying all of this. But then when Dowd provide a sworn statement from the woman, Rose acknowledged the relationship saying that he didn't know that she was between 14 and 15 years old while he was in his mid-30s. That's another Pete Rose story for you.

I don't like these stories you tell. You're a terrible storyteller. No, the issue in itself. He sued somebody who told the truth. Yeah. And that was a quick answer. I'm sorry, that's scumbag behavior. I'm sorry.

No, I don't think any, but I don't think, again, I will say this. I've had very limited dealings with him in my life. I used to go on his radio show, and I also played Blackjack with him one time. It was two very pleasant experiences. I was a kid in a candy, so I'm sitting here playing. He didn't split tens or nothing. No.

That's a comeback behavior. He almost hit a 12 against a 5, and I had to tell him not to. You're kidding. You're right. Of course, I am. I would never tell the hit king to do anything like that. But point being is that... Oh, the hit king and the blackjack.

I see you. I see what you did there. Weekdays 10 to 2? You know where I'm going to be. Point being is this. I still marveled at him as a player. I did. But I'm also smart enough to figure out that

just because you're an amazing baseball player or your amazing sports athlete, you can also be an A-hole. And I think generally speaking, Polly Pete Rose is an A-hole. That doesn't go into it because the only reason why he was banned lifetime from baseball, and not because it's an A-hole,

not because he had statutory rate issues, is because he bet on baseball. The Cardinal number one rule. The sanctity of the game. The integrity of the game must be upheld. Yeah. All right. 713212-5-790.

7-1-3-212-5-7-9-0. We'll talk to Brian Bogussev coming up in a half an hour. The Astros did get a nice win. Esoc Peretti's with the first walk-off of his career, Rossi. E-socked a walk-off homer? I'm here all week, folks. I'm embarrassed that you said that. 7-13-2-2-5-7-9.

It is NFL schedule release day. Let's get on a YouTube page and talk about it. You won't too, Ross? Let's do it like a five-hour. I'd love to. I'll be launching my YouTube shortly. I will not be subscribing. It's going to be called Pete Rose is a scumbag.

You're hate for Pete. I don't hate him. You kind of do. That's fine. You got to care about somebody to hate him. I forgot he existed until yesterday. You did not. it is a little bizarre how they would do this again i i that's why to me yesterday was not a big newsday

because i think basically rob manfred's like yeah lifetime bad me that was just i just don't get it for me yeah and all it did was frankly just get everybody pissed off the pete rose defenders i mean that's what i'm saying and for the and for the game itself on the field he was amazing but it's not just that easy you just don't go in off of you have to You have to be baseball eligibility. You have to be in good standing. And he was never in good standing for him ever to be anointed at a spot on the ballot. 17-time All-Star.

Wow. Played all parts of the infield, played the outfield. Two-time goal Glover. Last player manager in baseball. Three-time World Series champ, MVP, World Series MVP, three batting titles. Great career. Yeah. and just decide that he liked

I'm trying to think of a Mario Soto plus against the Atlanta Braves. That's a 1982 reference to the Asthma Reds and hope you guys enjoyed that. Dan Drescent, if you will. Don't know the brother. Dan Dreson also a cup of coffee with the Astros way back in the day.

Okay, yeah. Actually, also into wood cutting. Dan Driesen is? I don't kind of know these things. 713-212-5-790. Dosecchi is at 1035 on 7-90. Dosecis, good morning. Matt, it's been a long time, buddy. It's good to talk to you, you and Ross. I know I don't talk.

I don't call that often. I'm glad to talk to you. SportsMT, by the way, congrats to all your family for your time. Thank you. Thank you very much. Nice you to say that. Okay.

Back in Pete Rose, back in the National Dumb Days, I don't recall the year. But I used to have an ex-co worker at the airport. There was a skycap. His name is Leon Tucson, a very close friend of mine, that he was a very close friend of Dave Parker. Dave Parker. So when Dave Parker came and played here at the don't,

Pete Rose was obviously with a player manager. He invited me to go to the game. My daughter, which is 44, she was an infant. So I'm talking almost 44 years ago. So I went there with Pete Rose and Dave Parker's wife, probably the first wife had a great time. The only thing about it is that back then, no cameras, no social media, but I just wanted to share that with you.

And also, Matt, that was during the year that I think Pete Rose was on his 56th hitting streak, something like that. And so I just wanted to share that with you. It's something that I'll share with my daughter and my kids because they all love baseball. Sports is number one here in the VR family. But since you all were telling the stories about Pete Rose, I just want to share that with you. So I'm taking my call.

It's good to talk to you guys. God bless. All right, same to you. Thank you for the phone call. Appreciate it. I mean, I'll be honest with you. I think relationships between players and fans, 40, 50 years ago, was significantly better than it is today. Mm-hmm.

You didn't have social media. You didn't have the discrepancy in income and value and wealth and star power. They were approachable. They had to grow the game more. organically. More grassroots, I should say. Well, again, you know, 19, I don't know, just throw a year out there. What did Pete Rose make in 1975?

$100,000. No, more. He was probably, it was a close to a couple hundred thousand. Well, no and Ryan was the first million dollar player. Okay. He made $1 million a year in 1980. So putting things in perspective. Well, so Pete Rose, I mean, he was probably fairly well compensated, but there were a lot of people that were going to sporting events

and a lot of people there in the stands that were making as much. Okay, what year did you say? 75. 75, he was making 160,000. I mean, that's, that's obviously a lot more. I mean, if you take the rate of inflation today, that's a lot. I'm heading to the inflation calculator for you, Matt. What is 160 and 75?

Well, give me a second. All right, I'll give you a second. Point being is this, that you could, they were much easier to relate to than they are today. It's hard for, and for a fan that goes, to an NFL game to relate to C.J. Stroud. C.J. Stroud. Well, that's a bad example. Josh Allen, who's going to make $50 million. Is this right? $160,000 in 1975, 50 years ago.

It's 954,000 now. So he's almost making a milly. That feels about right. So, yeah, stories like those seckeys are not going to be foreign to us. And that's why if you have a relationship with a player, whether it's an autograph or a picture taken, you really should cherish it now because today's athletes just generally speaking

don't have time for you. Unless you go to spring training and you come up on Jose Al-Tuve. One of the nicest human beings on the planet. But the spring training world is even different. Yeah. Well, it's because also not necessarily the player's fault.

Because you have all these memorabilia whores who just go to spring training to get everything signed and you slap it up on eBay. Right. And so what they've done is you could park in this, same parking lot as these athletes, and now they have their own separate entrances.

I mean, look at West Palm Beach. It's pretty hard to wait for them to get out of their, to get to leave their car and leave the facility and get an autograph. Then a number one thing, to your point, we travel these NBA arenas and these cities all around the league. Literally Rossi, every hotel we go to, even when the Rockets were losing 60 games a year, there were people asking for Christian Wood autographs. And now it's even more because now the rockets are good and they've got some star power. But Ross, we'll land and we'll get to, say, Salt Lake City at 1 o'clock in the morning, and they're outside our hotel waiting for us.

It's really bizarre. You sign autographs? I have done it so. Sure, why not? That's great. They don't have eight by tens of me, which is kind of strange. You tell them you're the backup point card? They look at my body. Tell them you Reed Shepard?

Maybe Reed Shepard's dad. That's about as far as it gets... You get the mustache. I think it could be his grandpa. That's not true. Shut up. I mean, I can get the wispy mustache going just like he can. You should.

His stash is strong. Yeah, by the way, Brian King's strong stash. Yeah. Strong stash. I told you, the stashes are coming back. Well, they're back already. Oh, they've been back for quite a while now. I know.

But I still think if I was going to do it, I have to go to the goatee. You should try to make fun of Rakeabreck. What's he doing now? He's still in Baton Rouge, working. Okay, good for him. Good kid. I text him fairly regularly. Do we like him as a producer?

Jacob? He was good. A little odd, though, right? A lot of Louisiana Lock Takes. Oh, Louisiana Lock Takes was kind of a fun segment. What did he give us the thoughts about U.L. Monroe versus Arkansas Day? Yeah. You couldn't get that on radio shows.

He and Gordy would take over the show, talk Louisiana. Oh, my God. Sports. That's a thick accent of theirs. Bob in Texas City. Good morning at 1042. What's going on? Hey, you guys were talking about salaries and players being more approachable years ago.

I grew up in St. Louis, and so in the mid-60s and things like that, people like Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, those guys were the ones that they would hire to come and do our high school banquets at the end of the year to make a little extra cash. And a lot of those guys were beer distributor. They would ride with their beer distributors and sell Budweiser beer up there and stuff. There was nothing to see those guys after the game come over and play poker all night at the local bowling out. It was just across the river from Bush Bush Stadium. So they were out there amongst the people all the time back in the old day. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's not happening anymore.

And a lot of that is because if you wish and thank you for the phone call, if you, these guys, I would say this, they probably wouldn't mind hanging out and just being a regular joke, but they can't because they've got people taking pictures of them. They have social media everywhere. You mean, that's the byproduct of being a rich, popular athlete in 2025. You lose that.

And I will not feel sorry for them because that goes with the stakes of being a highly compensated, highly marketable person. You just lose it. It's not fair, but I don't feel sorry for them. I feel a little sorry. If somebody wants to just they can't go to the mall, can't walk the streets.

That's different. But just going out and just going out to a club and not expecting someone to take pictures as them. It's just not realistic. Exactly. Can't even go to the club. Everybody gets their phone out. You can't move in silence. Like 1998. I knew that Randy Johnson went to the IHop on Westheimer

before every start. I wanted to take pictures of them. How do you have his eggs? Scramble. Oh, okay. With cheese? With cheese. With cheese, all right? And some crack pepper. Of course. You just put crack pepper there are scrambled eggs. Brian Bogus had with us at 50 minutes here. All the bat is making stuff up.

1712-790. 7-13-212-1-2-5-7-90. Do we even go a little nibble in the NBA from last night? Or is that against our best interest? We won't do it, sorry. I'm ready, but... You know, Matt, we even had the show meeting yesterday. Give the audience what they want, not what you want.

Nuggets, Thunder, Breakdown? Is that what the people are thirsting for? They're not asking for that under any circumstance. Great series. That's fine. Great series. We don't care how great it is. All right.

We can care. 713. 212-5-790. 10-50 Sports Talk 790. Brian Bologous ever is going to join us in about 10 minutes from now. Nice to have all of you with us here on the program. And if you want to join us, you may do so. We are always available to visit with you at 713-212-5790.

212-7-19. If you want to reach out to us through Twitter, I greatly appreciate that. At SportsMpt. course you can also check out our Instagram at SportsMT. And Ross puts up a couple of photos like pictures of him and his freshly trimmed beard at Sports RV. I haven't looked at your Instagram. My guess is that's the last photo on the board.

I just put it up there, yeah. Oh, look. I mean, when you get a straight razor shave for the first time in your life and you feel like you're looking nice, Matt, you put it on the IG. How'd it feel? I feel good. I liked it. That was my first ever straight razor.

Follow me on Instagram at Sports RV. I'm trying to build it. It's an influencer initiative at Eyeheart. Please help me. Please for the love of God. But my account's better at SportsMT. No, it's not. It's significantly better.

If you want to see 76 pictures of teenage volleyball playing, that's fine. But follow at SportsRV. Okay. Instagram, please. Or SportsMT for better stuff. Let's get to... I thought we were talking straight, right? You get Straight Razor sometime, right?

No, I get the Super Shaver. Oh, that's right. You don't like... But you've had straight racer. Yeah. No, I'm not against it. It's just... It probably takes longer, because he was doing my edges.

Yeah, yeah. The most boosy thing, thing I do is about every 10 days, I don't shave my face anymore or my head. Uh-huh. You should get it done. I get it done. I was saw, and I rotate between two barbers. How much, can I ask you how much you pay? Because I'm just curious, because I saw on his board, it was like head shave was like 50 or something. No, Kingwood is very reasonable. Okay. I think it's $28 at one place and $30 at the other. I go to two places. For head and shave? Yes. That's reasonable, I think. And I give it $10 tip, so it's $40. every time. Okay. Yeah, that's good. So it's $40. I probably get it done four times a month,

so I spend $160 on my face and head because I don't, I mean, I can shave. I'm a terrible head shaver. Yes. I can obviously shave my face fairly easily, but the head is, I always miss spots. I just, they just go there. Plus, it's always cathartic to me. I just get in there. I close my eyes and I just, I sit in the chair and I'm just, it's like, it's relaxing for me. Yeah, it is relaxed. You get the hot towel. It's nice. That costs more and I don't get that. Oh. You should do it at home.

Yeah. The hot towel is... Just kidding. Hot towel, dry towel, whatever towel I need. Hmm. Okay, back at it. That's the most... It's my fault.

It's the bougies thing I do. Okay. Look, I... Over the years, Matt, you might know this. I don't spend a whole lot of time on my appearance. But I enjoyed it. I'm going back. Are you?

Yeah. Whenever. I don't know. How long should I get my beard? beard trim. I have no idea. I don't say it. Like I said, I'm like a caveman coming out of a cave after 40 years saying, how do I clean up? Yeah.

You shave your back next. All right, let's get to, straight razor on the back? No, the Astros. I'm sorry. Brian Bogussev coming up at 11 o'clock. Yeah, we'll have that for you. There were two NBA games last night. Please bear with us on this. You know what? If you want to talk about it, you can call.

You can say don't even do that. The chances of us getting an NBA call in the next four minutes are at zero 0.0%. You know what happened to this. I dare somebody to call the show right now to talking about not the NBA, but what happened in last night's games? Pacers, eliminate

the Cavs, Thunder go up 3-2 and a thriller. Got feeling one. Oh, yeah. Look at all. Just got to let it warm up a little. Oh, okay. Well, the entire Cavs roster turned an ankle. Good job. Okay.

Turned to angle the whole series. So there's a player for the Cleveland Cavaliers. His name is Max Drews. Okay. Apparently, he told somebody on a TV network I think it was TNT. Don't hold me to it. He basically

sent out a text to the entire team last night or before the game yesterday and said hey we're down 3-1 we're in our building we can win this if you don't want to compete and try hard don't show up

I mean pretty ballsy move far of all people Max Shrews so you're then now here comes the rest of story. Max Drewes last night went 0 for 9. 0 for 6 from 3. Hey, he had 7 boards and a couple of assists.

Didn't turn the ball over. I used to hate those type of teammates. Put it all in the line. But Jonathan, that'd be like you running your 4 by 100 relay team and the guys like, we got to do this together and the guy drops a baton every single time. Those guys like that. That's what I'm saying. No, that was me. I did this in, look, I'm going to tell you right now.

I did this in 7th grade B-team, Teague Middle School football, Aldean District. We were playing Aldi and our big rivals, and like the district championship was on the line. We needed to stop them. We were up 8-0, and we needed to stop them at the goal line. And in the huddle, I was like, let's go. The game is on the line. Let's do this.

And they scored the easiest. It just went off right in front of you. Yeah. It just waltz in for a touchdown. And I'm like, man, that did not work. That did not fire up anybody. I was a bit of a linebacker, so I felt like it was like my responsibility to fire a money up and then they scored and got the two point and in those days you ended in it we ended in a tie

yeah so max drus is the one doing it now in fairness to cleveland they are in a tough spot because look if you watched i'm a mitchell yesterday he was walking and running about 50 percent and then who else darius garland was also oh wait actually is this one of our NBA calls maybe we should get them real quick i was going to say we got a guest coming but you asked for i did i dare somebody 30 seconds either Jeremiah or another Biscuit called Sean Salisbury he can't be called multiple shows in one day

Biscuit we love you but you be along with it we gotta be quick okay Jeremiah real quick All right I stand corrected Yeah Jeremiah on 790 hello Hello Hello you guys so even though the Rock is out

man I'm still enjoying the playoffs I like how the Perry's going right now And isn't the cabs giving you a little version of what the Atlanta Hawks did back in the day Where they won all the number one seed And get knocked out early man is kind of similar scenarios. But yeah, I'll talk to some NBA with y'all.

All right, thank you, Jeremiah. Yeah, it was, they won 64 games, but they went to the second round. Did those Pacers get knocked out in the first round? Yeah, I mean, Hawks. Yeah, that's a minute Hawks. I think the Hawks went to one or two Eastern Finals, but it won very many.

But that's happening. I mean, that happens a lot. You've got 60-win teams that are getting bounced. The Pacers are a 50-win team. They're really good. And the Cavaliers had Mowgli Garland, Mitchell, and I think another player, I think it was DeAndre Hunter all dealing with ankle injuries in this series.

Or various injuries, I should say. Yeah, and towards the end, and I watched a lot of that end of the game of Cleveland, Indiana. Donovan was running at about 50%. And by the way, he got fouling on a three-point shot with like 90 seconds left, and he missed all three of the free throws. One word answer, is Nick's Pacers a classic NBA rivalry? No. I think it's borderline, just because of the 90s Knicks and Pacers battles.

Okay, you're going to go off to something that hasn't been relevant. You're right. You're right. I said borderline, but your answer was no, and I'm accepting it. Thank you very much. We finally found something that Ross accepts in my opinion. I'm very happy about these things. All right, Brian Bogus-evick will start the second hour. The Matt Thomas Show with Ross in a manner of moments. If you'd like to be a part of the program, you may do so as well at 713-2-1-7-90. 11-1 on Sports Talk 7-90. Let's spend 10 quarter minutes with our regular Wednesday guest. He is Astros Analyst on Space City Home Network.

working. We are very happy to have him with us every Wednesday at 11 o'clock. Brian Bogasevic on the show. And Brian, as you know, in television, getting in and out of the stadium in a relatively decent hours spectacular. Two hours and less than 210 last night to watch a great pitcher's matchup and a dramatic and very happy ending for the folks that are rooting for the local nine. Yeah, I like wins. I especially like wins that are under two and a half hours. So last night was about as good as it gets for us. Hey, let me tell you, we've kind of brought up this narrative this year, good fromber versus bad fromber. Last night was great fronber. What did you see maybe that we have not seen even some of his better performances earlier

in the year? Well, first of all, he had all three of his pitches working, fastball changeup and the curveball. And there have been, you know, more than a handful of starts where he hasn't had everything. And it's taken him a couple innings to feel, feel out what is working and what is not working and then adjust accordingly. He had everything going from the jump yesterday, and for him, that means everything is down. If you look at like a spray chart of his pitches from yesterday, everything was the bottom third of the zone and below. And with the guy who has such big movement on his sinker, if he can start it at the

knees and drop it below, he's going to get a ton of curve balls. If he can convince hitters that he's going to be at that bottom of the zone and they're going to have to deal with that pitch and they're going to have to swing at that pitch, he can then go to the curveball and get them chasing pitches below the zone for a lot of swing and miss. You know, when the change-up is coming out of the same slot as the fastball, and they're having a rush out there trying to get to 95-96, it's going to be even more weak contact ground balls. And when you're seeing everything on the ground from Framber and then couple that with a bunch of swings and misses on the curveball, he's going to be almost impossible to beat.

Brian, shouldn't he have more nights like this? I mean, look, not every pitcher for every start's going to be able to give you eight innings or going to be, you know, it'll be nice when you get knocked around a little bit. But by the type of pitches he throws with the fluidity in his motion, shouldn't he be a guy, even as long as he's been in the major leagues that should be around that an 85, 90, 95 pitch count to go deep into games? Isn't that what Frumber was kind of built for? Yeah, you look at the type of pitcher he is, you know, even though he can get swings and misses at a high rate, especially with this curveball.

He is at his core a pitch to contact action type of pitcher, and that typically lends itself to guys going deep in games. And, you know, sort of the rules of engagement have changed over the last 20 years of how deep you're willing to let guys go. But if there is a profile for the type of pitcher that you can just put out there and push a little bit further or be willing to throw on short rest if need be, he is that guy because everything he does is predicated on movement. And movement, even if you get a little bit tired,

even if your pitch count is up near 100, even if you're, you've been throwing every fifth day or every fourth day, whatever it could be, that doesn't change. Sometimes it'll even get better with a little bit of fatigue. So yes, he is a guy where if you're going to look at anybody in that rotation, who can get pushed a little bit, it's definitely him. Brian Bogussevick will us here on Sports Talk 790. Esoc Paratus with the walkoff.

and pulled into the Crawford boxes. Just overall, what you've been seeing from him as a hitter, and for a guy for him who is such heavy pull, what exactly, how does he end up like that, especially with opposing pitchers, know that he's going to try to pull everything, and he's still able to do it? For him, it's by design,

and it's by design in how he approaches his at bat. Sometimes you hear about guys who are heavy, heavy pull hitters, and you think, well, they must just be cheating. They must just be guessing, swinging early. They're going to be susceptible to chasing. You know, you've seen a million of those guys come along and it typically doesn't go well. I've been really impressed with him watching him on a day in and day out basis of how he executes, you know, his plan of being a pull hitter. And it's all about knowing what

pitches he can do that which, do that with. And he's really, stubborn in his at-bat. He's not going to go and give in and swing at, you know, a sinker down and away early in the count and roll over it. He's looking for breaking balls up. He's looking for fastballs on the inner third that he can turn on. And he'll make the adjustment late in the at bat and deal with a tough pitch, you know, with two stripes, if need be. But he really has a good idea of what pitches he can handle and he's very stubborn in waiting out those pitches. That's why he walks. He walks a lot not because he's just trying to get on base or because he's

passive. He walks a lot because he doesn't give in in hunting his pitches. And on Jake Myers, there's a running bit here, Brian, on the show that I'm the president of the Jake Myers fan club. We're having a good May, but we also had a good May last year. What are you seeing from him now? Does it feel different or somewhat the same from the May that he had last year where we're almost waiting for the other

shoe to drop? No, I think it feels different. I think it feels different in that it's more consistent. We've seen him get hot at times before, but it was very much an all or nothing type of hot streak. You know, he'd get four or five games in a row where everything was falling in, and you could just see that he was riding this hot wave, and then it would eventually come back to baseline. But right now, it's just a lot of good at bats. It's a lot of hard contact.

even if you look back at the series in Milwaukee. He got a base hit in every game, but there were probably two or three balls that he hit hard every game, and they didn't all fall in. So there's a lot more volume of quality. And he also feels like he's gotten comfortable with his approach. And he's obviously being more aggressive early in at bat. He doesn't want to get to two strikes where pitchers can really try to expand the zone on him. And once you get comfortable with how you,

you want to approach. And at bat, it really settles you. It really gives you a good gauge as a hitter of when was I successful in executing my plan and when was I not. And it gives you something to fall back on when you're trying to evaluate. Am I doing what I need to do or not? You know, other than just did I get a hit? Did I not get a hit? And it seems like he's very comfortable and very settled in how he wants to approach it at bats, which has, you know, resulted in a lot more consistency. Are we going to see somebody not named Jeremy Pena in the leadoff spot for the foreseeable future for the local nine? And are you surprised it's gone as well as it has? Are you surprised that Jose went to him and said, let's make a change? And just your general thoughts about what now he's

been able to do, kind of finding the most comfortable spot in the line for him in probably a couple of years now. Yeah, I think that's his spot. And I think it's a really good fit. You know, all the things that he can do from handling his at-back to, you know, how dynamic he is on the basis, to just, you know, being sort of an energy type of guy at the top of the order.

It's a really good fit. And, you know, am I surprised that Jose went to him and said, hey, let's make this change? No, because that's what Jose Altovae is. You know, as great a player as he is, he's an even better teammate. So, no, I'm not surprised by the whole situation. And

you know you have to be able to make quick adjustments being in the leadoff spot you're going to get a ton of that back you're going to have you know that you're going to be the guy getting that fifth or six plate appearance at the end of the game so you cannot be susceptible to making the same out over and over again and he's made a lot of quick adjustments this year so it's been a really good fit up there bogey we do a segment on tuesdays called gut feelings we just make kind of like predictions i want to get a gut feeling from you on how is right field ultimate ultimately going to be settled this year? Is it a mixture of Desenzo and Smith? Do you think one of the two guys takes over? What are your thoughts about both of the guys and how Joe is kind of trying to figure out which hot got to keep in that lineup every single day?

I think, as is right now, I think it stays as a mixture of playing time. You know, both guys bring things to the table that are valuable. Zach Zendos had a ton of quality at bats. Camp Smith. continues to improve, but is also turning into not just a solid outfielder, but a very, very good defensive outfielder. I think the only thing that can throw a wrench in that is if they eventually make a move

to get a left-handed piece in the outfield, you know, it's a very right-handed team, and that seems like it's the one place that they could add a left-handed bat, and then you're going to have to make a decision on one of those two guys probably. But as is, I think they're doing a nice job finding favorable matters. I think either one of those guys at this point, if you throw them out there every day, every day, it might be a little bit too much. But, you know, exposing them to favorable matchups has been working so far. All right. Lastly, you are not that far removed from being a player in Major League Baseball. And obviously, a lot of the conversation, the last 24 hours in the sport, has been about Pete Rose being added to the eligible list now for the Hall of Fame.

Forgetting about, and if you want to add your two cents on, Pete, we'd love to hear from you. but also your thoughts about the players and what they are told in those meetings before the start of the season, about the absolute no-noes, whether it's performance-dancing drugs, whether it's gambling. How often do the players association, the manager, the coaches, do they get it into your ear? You guys have to know there's a certain set of rules that will ultimately get you in some trouble. Yeah, well, it's very clear what the rules are. I mean, there are meetings every year in spring training. Any clubhouse you walk into, whether it be a home or visiting clubhouse, has rules posted, you know, somewhere right near the entrance where everybody can see and read on a daily basis.

There's no excuse for not knowing the rules. And I know it's a little bit different now with how more prevalent sports betting is and how easy it is. You know, you basically have a bookie in your hand at all times. but the excuse of not knowing is not there because it's made very clear. You know, that being said, my opinion on the Hall of Fame, I like very simple. I like black and white where I think the best players should be in. And if you're eligible, I think you vote accordingly. But obviously, you know, writers will vote how they want to vote.

And we've seen that play out with the whole performance-enhancing era of some of the voting, not making sense where certain guys get votes and certain guys don't. But, you know, I understand the ban and the lifetime ban, and that played its way out. And, you know, Pete Rose, he served his time. And for the rest of his life, he was not eligible. And now that's over. And now that he is eligible and can be voted in,

I have no problem with it if that's the case. Okay. We'll leave it that. Bogey, looking forward to seeing you on TV tonight. And we'll talk again next week. Thanks for the visit, as always. All right, I'll see you. All right. It's Brian Bogasevick with us here on Sports Talk 790 every Wednesday at 11 o'clock.

And that's what I think, Ross, if we were to take a informal poll of current players. I bet you the player of poll would be majority, not strong majority, but majority that would say he served his time. He's no longer with us. He's dead. He's dead. Veterans Committee. Sure. Let's give a spot.

That's fine. Whatever they do. It's not going to change my day-to-day life. Yeah, it won't. Obviously, but in a change that he's a scumbag who bet on baseball. It would have been more impactful if he was alive. But then, you know, the lifetime band's a lifetime ban. Mm-hmm.

And now he's dead. The band is lifted. He's dead? Pete? Who are you talking about? Oh. You bring up the day. Joe?

No, he's long been dead. He's not still kicking it? By the way, I'm not going to go see eight men out. Excuse me? I'm not going to go see eight men out. Oh, eight men out. Yeah, no thanks. Okay.

I think about eight men Thompson. I can see him too. I'm in. All right. enough from you. 713-212-5-7-9. We're going to do a reverse of shut your bum-ass up. This is going to be a train wreck of a segment. I think it's going to be great. No, I think it's going to be a disaster. Matt Thomas is a mouthful of Greek treats, so I'm going to give him a second. He just can't contain himself with this new time slot when it comes to eating. That's okay.

Follow at Sports RV on Instagram. I would really see every time you do this, I'm going to teach you a lesson. Because every time this happens now, I'm just going to print my Instagram. And that's a going to teach you. That's going to teach you. The Greek folks. The Greek Fest. The Greek Fest folks. Brought us some treats and it's nice. And you couldn't hold you couldn't contain yourself.

Casabat is with Philo Doe and oh, so delicious. My goodness. Mm. Mm. Mm. Okay. Thanks to Robin Bogosovic for joining us and he'll be with us again coming up. If you miss the conversation, shame on you. We'll have a little bit of that come up at 1.30 this afternoon. It's looking forward. Wonderful. What else we got to go? Oh,

The NFL schedule releases today. Oh my God, I can hardly contain myself. Did you check out my mock schedule, Matt? Yeah, you have the Texans playing the Buccaneers four times. Yeah, in Topeka, Kansas. It's crazy. That's my prediction, though. You know what they're doing?

These leaks are actually ruining it a little bit. You know what I mean? No, they do this on purpose, I think. Why do you say that? They kind of build a little interest and then it's like an appetizer, Matt. It's like schedule or release for play. You know what I don't see. Texans on big national games.

Yeah, you're under three and a half. It was looking pretty good. Was it five or six last year? Five? Well, let's think about it. Monday night was the Jets. Oh, dear, here we go. Christmas. The Cowboys on Monday night. That's two.

The Sunday night game against Detroit was three. Baltimore and Christmas was four. There was another one. Kansas City on Saturday. Five. There's five. Yeah. Okay. They call them stand-alones.

kids will call. Standalones. So that we can just pepper them throughout the streaming services and collect all their checks. Why do you care, though? Oh, I don't care. We have all the streaming services. It makes you think I care. And frankly, think about this, if you have the streaming, you don't even have to have the streaming services for these games,

because you have to put them on the over-the-air stations. If you're for local, yes. For local. So it doesn't, they can put nine games on Netflix, and I don't care. We'll get nine games on TV. Yeah, but I don't like to watch big games. games on Peacott. Then we get Smarmy TV anchors hosting pregame shows.

And then you accidentally leave the game on and then the local news comes on. And about the time the sixth murder is getting reported, you're like, I should change this. So the game is on local TV. It's the first five stories of the murder. And the six stories, we want to go see where the Texans watch the game, fans watch the game tonight. Go Texas. I'm down laying. Go Texans.

I should have been there. You don't need that. Just put the game on, turn the game off as soon as it's done. You don't need all that man on the street stuff. It's a classic. It's a go-to. We used to put you a man-in-the-street. Nobody cared about that.

I used to do post-Texins games for News Radio 740 KTRH. After the games, I would get Man on the Street audio. It was awful. I thought I did a great job. No, I heard it. I heard the stories. It was just people who are the most hammered and screaming and cursing. Yeah, I'm always curious why TV stations do this.

Why do we care what other fans are doing in a bar We're in a bunch of Texans bling? It's filler. Nobody cares. It's easy. Yeah, go out there, get some man on the street. M-O-S as they call it, man.

I know that. I've been there. I know you know that. Okay. I know, I'm telling you, I'm telling the audience via you. Oh, okay. Thank you very much.

It's called exposition. That's a big word. Oh, geez. But yeah, so what if you're at Don's bar? I mean, I don't care. I was in my home watching the game. Yeah, some guys crying in the back because he just got divorced.

This is really sad. Yeah, we actually learned something yesterday that I thought was intriguing. Our friend Chris Gordy, who's our program director, who likes to handle the radio ease of our business. Ease? The radio, not the minutiae, but that's the... The ins and outs? Okay. The minutia.

Maybe it is minutia. And he brought up a good story. It's very hard. We don't have, like, incredible tangible evidence of this. But it kind of makes sense. It's hard for people to get out and watch a sporting event when it's, frankly, a lot easier just to be at home. Cheaper. First of all, you have the best view in the house because you're sitting in front of your couch or in your bed or in a easy chair.

You're not having to fight through a crowded bar area. And number three, you can hear things. You can go to the bathroom when you want to. There's no line for that. You can pause and rewind. You can pause and rewind. You can change the channel. if things don't get interesting.

You don't have to worry about getting a DUI. You just stay on the couch. Oh, you don't have to get an Uber or, you know. You don't have to get your vehicle. Period. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. You don't need to get a designated driver or an Uber or, you know, it's just a little

your headaches. Sometimes watch parties are fun. They are, the atmosphere is fun. I'll tell you like this. So I'm a Manchester City Premier League fan. For big games, I like to go to the watch bar because it's atmosphere. People are screaming. That's what definitely you cannot get at home.

And I would also say that if, it's a playoff game or it's, you've got a group of, like for instance, in our house, we would like to go watch if, and I was at the final four this past year, but we would, if Duke was playing for the championship, we'd go to a bar with friends that were fellow Duke fans that would want to watch or enjoy that or Cougar fans or whatever. I think occasional stuff, but the point of the survey that Gordy told us about yesterday is it's not impossible to get people to come out. It's just more difficult than ever before.

I mean, a lot of it is, frankly, because it costs. Yes. Because even if you don't want to eat and cook a big meal, you want to bowl cereal. A bowl cereal in a ball game is going to be very easy to do. Instead of spending $12 on mid jalapeno poppers. That's true, man. That's true. You know, like, these are how much?

What are these guys doing back there? These potato skins are flavorless. Yeah, they put gold flakes in these potato skins. What's going on, man? You can cook them back yourself at home much better. Seriously. Yeah. I don't know what this conversation went, but I just thought it was an adult.

what we got yesterday. So when we do do events, we really do want you to come hang out with us because we will try to do everything in our power to make them different than just being in front of your television. Like, we will try to offer specials or we'll have a couple of nice prizes to give away, that kind of thing.

But yeah, it's becoming more and more difficult for people to leave their houses for just a rando sports game. Like if you was, like the Astros, I always talk about Big City Wings watching the Astros. You're going there to have dinner and if the Astros are on and it's a bone. But I don't think a lot of people are just jumping in their car going.

I got to run to big city wings to go watch the game. So that's why you get the best of both worlds. You get an amazing food. You get a $8 a burger and you get to watch the Astros. It's a win-win for everybody. Wow. Look at you. America's pitch, man.

You see how I slid that in their nice and comfortably? They call that the weave. Whose voice was that? I don't know. Was that your Trump? I don't know. What bad? It wasn't good.

All right. We're going to try something here for the very first time. come up with something. Now, give me an example or a format. Give me a springboard for this. Yeah, something that we know. We want to say something nice. We want to commend something.

Right? Like, for example, you're hating on people saying they got the number one mothers. What's the opposite of that? I don't know. Somebody who did something in the community. I'm going to find good news. Okay, so let's do this. Who do we?

We would tell Jeff Passing to shut his bum ass up for this. really nice article about Alex Breggma that he never would have ever written as a Houston Astro. Oh, well, how about something like you know what, Chandler Rome, doing great reporting for the Astros? Keep on talking. What is it called again? What did I call it, Jonathan?

Good to hear from you. Good to hear from you, Chandler. You know what? We had Brian Bogusovic on 11 o'clock. I think he does fantastic. He does a great job. Good to hear from me, Brian Bogusevic. I'll give you a classic example. Okay. There is someone that I know very well that

Every time we talk, this guy tells me about the latest show he's watching on Netflix. Okay. He asked me every single time, what are you watching? I said, I don't watch TV right now. I'm very busy with sports. But this guy who will remain nameless, still a very good friend of mine, will always tell me he's watching this, this, this, this, and this. And I want to say to my mind, ain't anybody got time for that. so if you're watching a show on TV

the opposite of that would be call me in time what you're watching because I'm very curious right well I thought we were just going to commend people like we were talking about people that we don't like or cut off us to cut us off on traffic so talk about nice people

yeah good to hear from you you know what I got one well when we come back so for anybody that you want to rip on The opposite of that. You must have the opposite. Okay. This is still a train wreck.

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Crapy. Spoke volumes about how bad that was. Excuse you? It was 38 minutes of my life and never get back. The phones didn't work. Number one. And number two, people were acting like we're replacing the segment. I don't think they understand it'd be once a month. You want to do it again next month? No, we don't have to. We'll do it again. No, I don't care. No, you're on the show, too.

I mean, we got like 10 calls in the second segment. You know, we'll do it again next month. First of all, we were railroaded by the crappy phone system. My God, can't... How long have we been in these new studios? It doesn't happen. All right, let's go to the news at noon. I'm very upset.

Astros won last night. V-O-1. Breaking ball, and that's hammered. Deep to left field, Kirsten, goodbye. Soccerades, fifth home under the season is a walk-off winner. The Astros beat the Royals 2 to 1. It ended up this series at a game of piece.

Isaac Paredes with the walk-off homer to the Crawford boxes. Jeremy Pena hit one there earlier in the game. That was the only two runs. The Astros were able to score, Matthew. But how did they get the win? Framber Valdez, eight innings, six hits, one earned run, one walk, seven strikeouts. And how about this?

Eight innings on 89 pitches. Was there any thought in your mind he was going to go for the ninth? I said no. I thought when he finished his eighth, that was like, that was good, job well done. Yeah, they had a Brayu and a hater warming up. If the Astros took a lead, Hater would have closed it out. But Brian Abraeu did his thing. He was able to pick up the victory for the Astros who beat the Kansas City Royals,

as they call it in the biz, the rubber match later today, 710 first pitch. I'll be with you for the Astros on Deck Show. And Colton Gordon's Major League debut. Gordone? Not like the Gordon's fisherman. What did I say? Gordons. I said Colton Gordon.

Oh, okay. You're an apostrophe. I said, no. I said it. Yeah, because, okay, let me tell you something, Matt. It's called English 101. It's Colton Gordon's first start. So I said Colton Gordon.

It's his first start. It's called possessive. You put an apostrophe in an S, so you put an apostrophe S on it. It's Colton Gordon's first major league start. Colton Gordon will be making his first major league start. Colton Gordon's first major league start. You go like to fish. a prediction of his line.

Oh, will he go five? Yes or no? No. So you're telling me the bullpins and he attacks for the second time in three days? I'm just saying, I mean, look, you know what? All right, fine, I'll be optimistic. Yes. Sure, he does it. Why not?

All right, elsewhere in baseball, Matt, baseball news. Of course, we talked about this earlier. Pete Rose, shoeless Joe Jackson, also all of the black socks reinstated from the permanently ineligible list by Commissioner Rob Manfred. They are now eligible for possible election into the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York. It will be the, I think it's called the Classic Players Committee or something like that. 2027, yeah.

Excuse me, classic baseball-era committee. They do not meet until December of 27. Now, do we know who's on that list of people that are in that group? It's 16 people. I don't have the names. So I'm going to assume those are 16 people that have had rich, traditional, long-term successful major league success, right? Let's see. If you don't know who the names are,

I'm just characterizing guys that's probably been around baseball 30, 40 years, right? As a player, coach, Dick Allen, Ken Boyer, Steve Garvey, Tommy John. Old school. Dave Parker. Guess what?

He's in. Well, Dave will send him in because he's an old teammate of his. Louis Tiant, Vic Harris, John Donaldson. Now, a lot of those guys he played with. Does that, do you think he's going to get him because the guys he played with? It's possible. I can very well see him getting in.

All right. So gut feeling right now. Does he get in in 2020? I say no. Good feeling, yes. Okay. Continue on. And that's your news and noon.

Time for a break. All right. All right. Quick off the beaten path news. Oh, I love it. Matt, of course, are you familiar with the streaming service, Max? I watched Max yesterday because I was watching in, as I was taking a shower. I was watching the Pacer's Cavaliers game.

Do you recall what it was? It was called before it was shortened to Max. It was called HBO Max. It's going back, folks. Why? Because people confused? We all said how stupid it was. HBO is one of the biggest and best brands in television history.

They're like, yeah, we're going to cut HBO and stick with Max and just call it Max. Now it's going back to HBO Max this summer. It's almost like the Coke that went to the new formula. New Coke and went back to Coke Classic. And they're like, this is a disaster. It's not TV, it's HBO. It's not HBO. It's HBO Max. It's not HBO Max. It's not Max. It's HBO max. It's HBO. You ready? Here we go. Okay. Curb. Righteous gemstones. Eastbound and down. Vice Principles and Bill Maher. I'm in the middle of rewatching the wire. By way, I did-enforcing my thought that it's the best show of all time. Of all time.

Of all time. By the way, I just watched the first episode of you yesterday. Me? The final season? No, I don't have a show. The final season of you? You watched me? No, I watched you. You watched you.

Yes. What did you watch? You? No, me? No, you didn't watch me, you watched you. 1213 on Sports Talk 790. Let me tell you, this show today has been horrifically bad. Thanks for stopping by.

I don't know. Let me ask you all this. Call in right now. I disagree. 713-212-5-790. What can we do to improve this show in the next hour 45 because right now it is an ultimate train wreck mode i would cancel us if i could this feels like a friday before vacation this is what it feels like

it's it's total embarrassment i'm embarrassed for you and john i'm embarrassed for our phone system i do i i didn't do nothing but mess up once on eh your takes are always off all right seven one three two one two five seven yeah look i do appreciate the twitter app giving us sports news information. But I have seen two different people that are not falling on their sword, but are saying, I've found this out about who the Texans are playing in week one of the NFL season. And it's irritating me that we just can't be patient until, what is it, 7 o'clock tonight, local time, give or take. Why can't we just wait?

Can we wait a few more hours without putting out erroneous information? Got to be first. Got to get them likes, retweets, shine, clout chasing, whatever you want to call it. Well, I hope the website that gets it wrong, crashes and burns, and they get some sort of nasty disease. As the American poet laureate, Kendrick Lamar said, clout chasing a hell of a disease, brother. God, no wonder he won a Pulitzer. Jeez, it's amazing. So the two different website, two different groups of people that I've seen, one is the Texans play the Rams in L.A. in week one.

and the other one I've seen, they're home for Denver. It's just terrible. Yeah, it doesn't even matter. Like, I just don't get it. The schedule hype. I'm going to write that down for tomorrow. Matter of fact, yeah. So, just be patient and don't look at anything else.

I love the NFL. I love getting into fantasy football, reading about every team, watching Monday night, Thursday night, Saturday, Sunday, all of that. Tuesday morning. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Right. I watch it all. But I don't care what the, I mean,

just let me know what it is. I'm not going to get super hyped about it in May. You people are sick. You're stupid. Well, Matt said that. That was Matt. Yeah, if you break down the schedule, you're stupid. I mean, I'll still talk to you and be in high five of your, fist bumpier or break bread with you if I need to.

But if you're getting into a deep dive on the Texan schedule, you're stupid. We'll run through it tomorrow. Duh, twice. Classic. We do a four-hour show. We've got to make sure we do it both times. Oh, man. A lot of time to fill.

All right. Pete Rose, this is a one today's story, right? We're not going to spend the next three years talking about this, are we? It'll pop back up in 2027, probably. So I'm some saying, it was, why do you think Manfred did it? Just because he had to? Was he facing pressure from somebody? I have no idea. Has he released a statement on this? I'm sure he has.

And I know the Reds have sent out a statement. I know the White Sox, I think, have sent a statement out. Statements don't mean anything to me. Yeah, Dan Wetzel wrote this big article about, oh, the game is the game, it's a museum, it's a history museum, tell the story. Pete Rose is all up in there. He just doesn't have a plaque. So they did tell the story of Pete Rose. The only thing that's different about any of this is that he just doesn't have a plaque on the wall.

No, he just want to know Rob Manfred, it's just a piece of metal on you. Don't do that, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, though? It is a high honor. It's a very, very, well, you see. be a really exclusive group. It's getting a little more open to the last to 10 years or so. But it's still very much a cherished place where the best of the best. I mean, you're in Shrine in the Baseball Hall of Fame. It means that you've done something incredible for a very long period

of time. You can't just win 20 games one year or have a two no-hitters in a two-year stretch. You've got to have prolonged success. You have to be the greats of the game. And I applaud everybody that gets in there. I'm so happy that Billy Wagner is getting in there this year. but for anybody that watched Pete Rose knows it we know who he was we know he's a Hall of Famer Barry Bonds just because he doesn't have a jacket and a plaque doesn't mean he's not a Hall of Famer

Roger Clemens same exact thing Yeah they are the players we just brought up Are the greatest of the greats of the game Let me ask you Do you think I am being a hypocritical Probably Well you don't even listen to what I said Oh sorry go ahead

I treat Heats Banishment differently than I treat Bonds and Clemens Because Let me stay with me for a second here Barry Bonds

was an excellent Major League Baseball player for his time as a Pittsburgh pirate and for his early years as a San Francisco giant But anybody with two eyes that actually work, saw his body change as he got older,

you got more physically imposing. His hat size grew. I am not naive to say that whatever he put into his system, his rear end, his thigh, whatever it took to get bigger, faster, stronger. I believe absolutely had a 100% impact on him getting into what he was the most,

most feared hitter in baseball, the all-time home run king, blah, blah, blah, blah. Do I think Barry had a shot of doing it without that stuff? Yeah, of course he did. But the numbers say he's absolutely... They're comical. They're so... They're beyond belief. He could be on the list of the

greatest player of all time. At age 39, his OPS was 1.4-2. So to me, I say, take the steroids out of his ass, and there's no way he's even close to that. So when you describe performance enhancing, I say to myself,

that's Barry Bonds to a T. Barry Bonds could not, at that age, put together those types of numbers without some sort of artificial assistance that frankly, Major League Baseball said was illegal. Yeah, but also there is, there are counter arguments to that. And I'm not saying I believe them.

I'm just saying it's a tough, It's a difficult conversation. That's what I'm saying. The counter arguments were... Pete's easy. In the Hall of Fame as a player, competitor, hits leader, yes. Yes. You're not in because of what you did and you gamble.

That's a cut and dry one. Rogers got a little bit of a murky area. And Barry's got a huge little bit of... It's not black and white. So, yeah, the counter arguments being that, first of all, that if not everyone was doing it, but you compare people for their eras, Right? We compare Barry Bon, I mean, Babe Ruth to what he was doing. He was hitting 60 home runs. Everybody else was hitting 35.

You compare them to their peers. Barry Bonds, many of his peers, all the All-Star top players, were on the same stuff, and he was still head and shoulders above everyone. He's still sort above everyone. It's like he was the one guy. Pitchers were doing it, hitters were doing it, and he was the best. By far. By far. Yeah. So that would be one counter argument. And then another one would be where you draw. all the line as far as performance enhancing.

Creatine was performance enhancing. Creatine is produced naturally in your body, but you could take a creatine supplement and get bigger and stronger. And for a while, it was not illegal. But protein powder. How come protein powder is something that

is a performance enhancing supplement? It makes you grow bigger, stronger than you did than Mickey Mantle didn't have protein powder and all the sports science they have now. But see, I can answer it easily to you. It wasn't, protein powder's never been deemed illegal. And neither is creatine. I can, you and I can walk into G&C and go get creatine.

That's fine, we can do that. But steroids have never been legal. But there are the same thing with the supplements. How many times a guy say they have a tenant supplements? You and I can walk in a G&C and get a supplement. And if it has whatever, stands in all albuterol, I don't even know whatever all. And it's on the band list for them, but it's not for us. So these draw, there's these gray areas and these lines that get drawn.

And we have to figure out where they are. modern science where you have platelet rich injections where they're going and then getting blood and then whirring it up in a machine and then re-injecting the unit. That's not natural. That should be like steroids. That's, I mean, that is not somebody back in 1928.

That's not Lou Gehrig and the boys. Just, you know, working out and drinking beer. But let me ask you this. If that stuff was available to them in 1928, would Babe Ruth have used it? Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, you've had athletes who have to go overseas.

sometimes to get treatments that there are stem cell treatments that at least back in the day weren't deemed legal here but you go to Germany or whatever and get your stem cell treatment and you come back here and you're all better that's a gray area for me too my gray area isn't as gray as yours eventually baseball says it's authentic and it's legal I can live with that yeah back in the day you blew your UCL your career was over mm-hmm it's just like I said to me it's like you always mentioned the debate class analogy. We can go in debate class and take both sides to me.

Okay, so Roger Clemens, and we've got to get to a break here. Rogers' steroid use allowed him to recuperate faster. Just like what Andy Pettett had said. I use it to help my recuperation. Do I think that steroids added four miles to Randy, Roger Clemens' fastball?

I don't think there's evidence of that. It might have. He could have. I mean, his velocity didn't dip into his 40s. But it allowed longevity. He allowed him to kill a pump iron. Because Roger was a big pump iron guy. He was. He was the first will tell you that.

His wife and his wife both. And also, Barry Bonds and Roger Clements never failed a drug test. So if you're on their side of it, you're like, if you think you had, if you think you had the goods on it, then test me all the time. Yeah, A-Rod failed drug tests, I believe, correct? Or was it just the biogenesis scandal? Yes. And then you had the Raphael podcast.

Palmero that he failed. He failed. So if they never failed drug test, I mean, gray areas. Pete wasn't gray. You cheated. Yes. You were permanently banned from the sport, lifetime ban, and now you're dead, now you're free and clear. It is kind of not the way that you wanted the story to end, right? I wanted Pete Rose to admit five years after I goofed.

I'm sorry. I'm not going to write a book about it. I just, I screwed up. What can I do to fix? And instead he turned a blind eye to his own admission until he wanted to make some money off of that admission. And so he did. Is Pete Rose's autograph worth more today than it was yesterday?

I think so... He signed so many things. He did sign so many things. He did sign it. He's John Hancock's on everything. You know, totally paper roll with his name on it. Real fast and I was walking through the Las Vegas mall, you know, there was very smalls in between the casinos.

And I was walking around. I saw a memorabilia shop. and there was Pete Rose sitting with one other person, the person that was working at the store, and if you bought something under a certain dollar value, he signed it. So he signed it. I got an autographed picture for him for my father-in-law and had him sign.

He was very nice to me. But it was just, that's what he was left for in the last 20 years of his career. Go and sitting in front of a strip center, Las Vegas Mall. And made him a lot of money. Made him a lot of money. More money probably than if he'd just been inducted

and not been in the public eye as much. No question. Because he would have had more authentic autograph shows is going to be at a strip center doing it in middle of Las Vegas. 1230 on Sports Talk 790. 713212-579 if you want to get in. 713-212-5-790. Astros on the plate.

We have the NFL schedule release today, which we will give you complete in-depth analysis of our predictions of all 17 weeks. We also have for you Pete Rose is in the mix. Anything else going on in the world of sports we should talk about? We had really great NBA games, but... It said, shut your bum ass up. 1235 on Sports Talk 790. It is a Matt Thomas show 713 with Ross, of course. 713, 212-5-790.

Tomorrow on the show, we have Brian McTaggart with us for a few minutes. We will also have, I just don't get it. What else we got tomorrow? Oh, two different times. We'll go through the entire 17 game Texan schedule. Okay. Can't wait. of a yearly.

The anticipation is killing me, Matt. I am counting down the minutes to the Texan schedule release. I got news for you. Are they a nine home game team this year or an eight home game team this year? I don't remember. All right. That's why I use you for information. Thank you.

I'll look it up now. I do a great job of throwing things at you that you're not prepared for. I could have said, hey, during the break, why don't you see how many games at home games they got next year? Looks like they have eight home games. And at what week will Hannah and Cal say that energy is not good enough? They're not going to publicly say that. Oh, they'll do in due time.

I'll tell you what week they're going to say that. They'll say that the first week of February if things go the way that they need for them to get a new stadium. If the Texans win the Super Bowl, they could put the stadium on top of NRG Stadium and people would still go. Yeah, I think going to the Super Bowl at the minimum, then they'll try to get some legislation passed. I bet you. Gut feeling. Well, you'd have to put up for a city vote because I think there's the... Yeah, I don't know how that works.

It'd be hard for... It'd be hard for politicals to all of a sudden say, well, you know, you guys were playing an AFC wildcar weekend. We can't give you a stadium. Now you're on playing the Super Bowl. Duh, you can have it now. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see.

But these new palaces keep popping up everywhere. Washington's going to have their new stadium coming up. Chicago's going to be going to go out to the suburbs. Nashville is getting a new stadium. The Texans will have, and I don't know what they're doing in Jacksonville. Does it even matter what they're doing in Jacksonville? I mean, I always, are they getting a new stadium there too?

I have no idea. Everybody wants their own palaces. Just build it, and we'll come. We'll pay your $20 beer. Pay for your $19 nachos. It says, Google says they're renovating Everbank Stadium in a $1.4 billion project,

transforming it and transforming it into a stadium of the future by 2028. Okay, so they'll have eventually a new place. So the NRG will be the oldest facility in the division by the time 20208 comes around. It's just a renovation. So, I mean, I guess. But they've renovated a couple times. That Gator Bowl has been around forever and ever and ever.

But why, I guess it's a commitment to keep the Jaguars in Jacksonville. City has agreed. The Jaguars and the city contribute 625 million apiece. City responsible, actually, and then the city's also paying for renovation preparations. So it looks like cities paying for 55% of the cost. I've never been to Jacksonville before. Have you been to Jacksonville? No, never, not on the bucket list.

Yeah, it's northern floor. I mean, there's a lot of waffle houses of nice golf courses. City Council approved it 14 to 1 in June. That one person's like, the Jaguar suck. Yeah. They play half their games in Europe anyway. That's a lot of local money right there. But it's like, what do you else do you have in Jacksonville?

Yeah, what else do you have? Hi, Biscuit, what's going on? What's up, my brothers? Hey, man. Man, Ross, you're right. Man, we went for the Super Bowl when he was in Jacksonville. I think they might have two buildings above five feet tall. It's nothing in that Jacksonville, man.

But let me get to my Pete Rose thing, man, and you were asking for, what's the argument for Pete? The argument is forgiveness. The argument is it's been since 80, and I've been three decades. You know what I mean? You know, he's, yeah, he did what he, nobody's saying what he did wasn't wrong

and was against the rules. We're saying, you know, come on, he didn't spend enough times. This lady man. My counter argument to that to you, Matt, is you got to be one way to other. Either letting me or don't let him, don't let him in after he dies

because now it's convenient for you. You know, the main thing about going into the hall is having his days, getting his roses. And if he ain't here to get it, man, what use is it? I don't disagree with you. Yeah, I mean, if all of a sudden this was on Rob Manfred's plate and he's thinking about Pete, he could do this five years ago, correct?

Yes, sir, correct. So he did it really as a form of, well, lifetime means while you're living. And since you're not living, I guess we don't have to worry about it anymore. I mean, it was more semantics than anything else, don't you think? Yes. BS, man. BS. You know what I'm saying?

Because now, if he goes in, it's convenient for baseball, right? Baseball gets all the recognition peak going in. But the family, if I'm in the family, I'm not going. Yeah, because, I mean, I could see it either way. I mean, they're going to, look, as I said before, and thanks Biscuit for the phone call. I don't know if 2027 is going to happen right away. Are we going to see him at some point get in? I can't even tell you that.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know how often those guys meet. Why has it taken so long? I guess, well, it's classic baseball. I guess not a bunch of classic baseball players are going to pop up every year for you to try and induct. I mean, does it mean anything at this point? Don't you want, if you're going to put together the all-time hit king, put him in the Hall of Fame, don't you want him to be up on that dais?

Don't you want to be up there with all those other greats to say his speech and say all the great thing? I mean, no disrespect to the Rose family, but hearing from the relatives, that doesn't mean much to anybody. Yeah, but maybe it's for them, better late than never. But it's been so wrong. My entire sports talk career has been about Pete Rose and whether or not it gets it or not. I mean, this has not been something we just brought up just the other day. You know, life is about forgiveness. That's true.

But yeah, we can forgive Pete Rose. But that doesn't mean you forgive him by inducting him into the Hall of Fame. There's a difference. So basically you can say this. We forgive you, Pete. You should be a part of baseball. You can go to games. You can be on TV shows.

But you still have to pay a price. And the question is, is the punishment fair for what he committed? And that was a permanent deletion into Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame. Baseball's Hall of Fame. I mean, you could forgive somebody for committing a crime and they served their time in prison. That doesn't mean you go and make them president or whatever, you know, mayor. That doesn't mean you go and put them, make them CEO of your company. It's what I'm saying.

But on the opposite side of that, you could say, well, you could. You could say, you know what? You basically were embarrassed for 10 or 15 years. You've served your time. Because, again, what you're bringing him in for is not his managerial work. You're bringing him for what he did as an active player. And there's a difference between forgiving someone and then propping them up and trining him in the whole fame.

I just, the number one thing for me, and we probably won't get to too much more Pete Rose after today, is he didn't do himself any favors. And that's where I think his, not his biggest mistake was. The biggest mistake was obviously betting on baseball. But if you got caught red-handed, which he clearly did, and you can blame Giamani, you can blame Fame Vincent, you can blame Bud Sili, you can you just could have gone about it a different way to sound like you felt bad for your that you apologize

and that you were sorry that you were remorseful Ross how many years did he spend just flat out denying exactly there was there was very little remorse and contrition and when it came it felt famed alligator tears and I remember watching Good Morning America when he went on with I don't know Charles Gibson was the host of the time and he was like yeah I wrote this book because I needed to tell my story I'm like No, you didn't have to wait until you sold a book.

Yeah. You tell you a story of the day after you got caught. He goes up on a, put it this way. Let's let's redo history here. He goes in front of a press conference in Cincinnati or wherever he wants, living at the time. Ladies and gentlemen, when I was a manager of the Cincinnati Reds, I bet on my team. And I'm sorry that I did it. And I know that I have to pay a punishment for that.

And I love this sport so much. but even all of us have weaknesses. And I want to spend whatever length of time it takes for me to get back in the good graces of baseball. Throwing an addiction too. A gambling addiction. Bad problem. I've been seeking help about it and I want to get better.

If he meant it. If he meant it. But he never meant it. He's still bad on horses all the time. I played black tag with him. You know what I'm saying? I mean, he never ever came across as uberly remorseful. And I think in public world, people say sorry and they kind of, I mean, we have an example

we can think of during the break? Is there somebody that did something really, really bad? And we said, we said, he apologized and we kind of said, okay, we get it. I mean, Andy Petit apologized and admitted it. People feel like they pretty much forgave him. I'm talking about even outside of sports. You know, have we had elected officials? Did Bill Clinton admit anything? Well, he didn't.

The index finger says. said, no, he didn't. I did not have sex with that woman. What were you thinking? I was the right. Stop, but both of you. You know what I meant. No, I didn't.

I did not have sex with that woman. I did not. Go ahead. Do it. I want to hear it. It's probably not bad. Sexual relations with that woman. That was the late Phil Hartman doing Bill Clinton.

Thank you. That was not that. Hey, Phil Hartman, one of the all-time greats. I'll take that. 12-44. on Sports Talk 790. 713212.5.790. All right. Tom and Downtown says that Eddie Murphy apologize for getting arrested for picking up a transsexual hooker in the 80s. No one seems to be talking about that. That's true. Hugh Grant picked up a hooker. Remember that in the 90s?

That's true. And we seem to forget that or forgive. Robert Downey Jr. had his transgressions. Roblo? Oh, yeah. You know what? I'm thankful. We're forgiving society. None of us are perfect. And when I do something that I'm regretful for, I hope you accept my regretfulness.

These heinous acts that you've committed. Oh, my God. So, yeah. I think if Pete would have said something, not necessarily right away, but a lot sooner than 25 years after he got banished from the sport, it probably would have been helped out a little bit. So,

um, be curious, saw 20. It'll be a topic in 2027 for sure. I think we'll find I'll see you there. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's going to be a top of flight conversation tomorrow, but we'll see. But the vitriol for Rob Manfred is certainly coming up. People are all upset.

But I think people that just didn't like Ron Manford are just taking an extra swap at him. Rob Manfred can sneeze and people will be unhappy with the way he handled it. Do we have a commissioner that anybody likes? Let's go quickly. Who's the most liked one? Betman's probably fourth. Don't the hockey fans hate him?

The hockey fans have hated him. He never gets any positive publicity ever. Manfred's probably then third worst. Then Goodell, then Silver, but people still don't like Silver. Silver really got off to a great start. Yeah. And then it's falling off considerably. And people now think people think he rigs the lottery.

Yep. Yep. Rigs the lottery, too much wokeness in the NBA, blah, blah, blah, blah. Goodell just hated because You know, Gadell, I think, is hated because he just has 32 owners that just can't have enough money. I think it's his soft way of talking. It's off-putting as well.

Is that weird to say? I see, I think the number one problem the commissioners have, and this is all three of them, is they, you can go to them and say, television ratings are down 15%. Or you can say injuries have not gone down there. this. Or you can go after them with something very, very polarizing.

Like in the NBA, if you went to Adam Silver and said, you know, this guy's taking games off, instead of saying, you know, well, they still play, you know, and so saying, it's a problem. We got to fix this. Well, they still play 70 games a year. Yeah, they're all lawyers. And then Adam Silver's response to, well, I figured out a way to reduce the number of players taking rest, playing 40 minute games and they're all former lawyers

so they're hit to the spin game that's what it is they're just terrible spinners and they put everything in the spin zone they lawyer stuff they dodge questions and there's enough of us that are smart

they're all really good lawyers and that's what a good lawyer does there's enough of us that are Americans that just don't buy the crap and I mean honestly like it'll feel like the higher, almost in politics, the higher of a level you reach, the more people you've got to step on on the way up. Same thing for lawyers. And many of the politicians are, I mean, I think the vast majority of our politicians are lawyers or former lawyers. Well, think about this in the commissioner's spot, too. There are also guys that all have tremendously long tenures because they understand you are going to be the fall guy for all of us and we're going to compensate you very nicely for that. Just understand and know that you're going to, you do not want to look at your name. Like if we want to look up Adam Silver's name, on a Google search. It's not going to be complimentary.

Or Roger Goodell for that matter, or for that matter, Gary Bettman, any commission. Not a Twitter search for sure. Yeah. So you have to know that if you better have tremendously thick skin. And as long as you keep 30 to 32 externally rich men and women happy, you're going to be able to keep your job. And having, I mean, what's the last commissioner has been fired? Wasn't it some baseball commissioner in the 90s? Okay, let's think about it.

It was Uber all fired? Or did he step down? Faye Vincent? I mean, maybe in that group? Maybe I'm thinking of Faye Vincent. But, I mean, Taggloboe left in his own terms. Pete Roselle, the first commissioner, left on his own terms. David Stern was probably there three or four years longer than he probably wanted to be.

It's almost like, again, if you're going to be that commissioner and you're going to have, you're going to put out some controversy. First way of understanding. Faye Vincent, 92. Okay. So you're talking about 30 years plus, Ross, since the last commissioner of any sports been fired. Mm-hmm.

As long as you're the fall guy, as long as you keep 30 to 32 rich people happy, you get to keep your job. Now, my skin is so thin that I couldn't handle that. Just stay off Twitter, Matt. You'd be fine. But didn't you... Nobody talks trash your face.

It's the age. anonymity. Don't read the newspaper. Don't look at the social media. Why did you go Boston? I mean, the newspaper. I don't know. I thought it would be funny. It was not bad. That's pretty good. I like that. Thank you. But you knew when Manfred did this yesterday, he wasn't going to be like,

thanks, thanks for you, thanks for doing this. Thanks for restoring the good name. We love Rob Manfred. Yeah. Instead it was, why did you wait until he died? You bum? Yeah. But I still don't get why it's happening. you know why because he probably said to himself well i lifetime banned pete rose and since he no longer

has life but shulish joe jackson's been dead for what 60 years probably why didn't that's curious why don't he bring all those old chicago white socks dudes in play black socks black sucks who was was there anybody running around this country in 2025 going we got to get chueless joe in he died 1951 i mean did his great great great great grandson want to get knocked down uh rob Manfred's door for the last two months. Joseph Jefferson Jackson died in 1951. I believe he was trying to sell ice cream

to a bunch of pilgrims in upstate Pennsylvania. I believe he took money to fix a World Series. We even had a lot of that, frankly. That we know of. That we know of. And honestly, you can't prove it. You can't prove that this last Super Bowl wasn't fixed. Or that Pat Mahomes

wasn't getting calls on officials because the officials were getting an extra check. Pat Mahomes looked like he was fixing it. They got destroyed that signal. That was a crappy Super Bowl, wasn't it? It was a beat down. All right. 1258, the Astros with an very impressive win over the Kansas City Royals in a low-scoring. Yes.

Decent energy, dramatic, excellently pitch ball game. We don't get enough of those these days. Final hour, the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Ross, what is today's edition of Believe or Not coming up in about 50 minutes from now? I'm just going to rehash the Pete Rose I wrote in 2016. That was eight years, nine years ago. I feel like you could probably get a little bit. away with it, right? Yeah, some of these

questions actually aren't terrible. I feel like I've gotten better and better over the years, but these aren't so bad. Okay, maybe more, maybe a third edition of Pete Rose, believe it or not. We'll do some borrowing with some new footage. It's like, it's like when they come out with the extended cut. So you're doing a reboot? Yeah, it's like director's cut of Pete Rose. Okay. So did I put

Shoalish Joe in there? Uh, I guess you could, if you wanted to. All right. You could also get people feeling better about themselves. Yeah, getting your energy up. 104 on Sports Talk 790. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Ross, taking a look at some old school

Linda Carter. I saw the same exact tweet a few minutes ago. You and I must be in the same for you, Tab? No. I don't want to be with all those AI models that you have. You're sending them cash. I got an AI buy keeps ass.

You've not checked in with me in a while. I didn't call you a nasty whore lately. Is that what you want me to do? Send me that electronic routing number real quick. Yeah. What is your, what is your, yeah. What is your, send me a, send me a credit card to pay my bills.

All right, Astros, it is the rubber game of the three game series with Kansas City. Yesterday they win 2 to 1. Jeremy Pena with a home run. Also a home run from Isak Paredes. And we will talk more about the Astros in depth. We had a visit earlier today with Brian Bogussevic

and we'll have it for you coming up at 1.30 this afternoon. We got, believe it or not, today, a little bit of Joe Jackson. A little... Yeah, Joe Jackson. You know, I was thinking about Joe Jackson. Not Michael Jackson's dad. I was thinking about Michael Jackson.

He had shoes. This guy is shoeless. Shoeless Joe Jackson, little Pete Rose. And we have the NFL schedule release coming up tonight. I believe it's 7 o'clock local time. It feels like to me more and more people,

as I'm looking for the 4U tab, have the Texans opening up the season on the road against the Los Angeles Rams and then a home game with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Monday night football. Oh. Okay. I told you those potential.

national game. I think the Texans are, I think our Texans are very Monday night friendly. Because you know Monday night puts the pretty good games on, but not the spectacular games. It's not the championship contenders. It's like the second level guys. It'd be like if you put a bunch of Atlanta Hawks games on.

Hmm. Okay. National TV. I don't mean to make the Texans the Hawks of the NFL. It's not the Muhammad Ali's. It's more the Jerry Coonies. it's the undercard if you will. Yeah. But I mean, Joe Buck and I'll tell you what, we always discuss about whether or not TV announcers impact ratings.

I don't know if the games have just been better, but the Joe Buck, Tri-Ikman acquisition has really helped out the ESPN group because they have gone, they went years trying to figure out somebody. They used to have Mike Tariko and John Gruden do it. And then when those guys left, they were going with all different, a bunch of hodgepodge of guys, and it just never seemed to work out. Yeah, now they have them, and the matchups have been better.

I think ESPN demanded better, had been demanding better matchups because they were getting some pretty bad ones. It's crazy. The number one network that gets, it feels like it's, it's crem to like crem to like NBC. They always want that Sunday night game to be really, really good. Meanwhile, Amazon Prime's like, we're not going to put any more Bengals Jaguars games on. We're going to start flexing you bad boys, too, so they can flex Thursday night games this year. Jeff Bezos cutting that big check. Al Michaels, ready to sleep through another call. I'll stop saying that.

He's vested in the spread. Well, and getting on camera. I'm not saying he didn't put his work in. I'm just saying he's a little low energy. He might want to go to FixMyLowT.com. Wasn't he 80 years old? Yes. Which again.

But that means it's time to retire. I'm sorry. If you can't do the job, you shouldn't be doing the job. You get an argument of does an 80 year old be doing in the prime time games. It's like when you see a 90 year old driving a car. Like, oh my God, they cannot handle this. We need to ban, by the way, 90-year-olds on the road. And we need to ban.

If you get over 80, you can't call NFL major games. That's the rule. What about secondary games? Okay, yeah. Can you do the Fox number six games? Yeah, exactly. Okay. That's funny.

Like Titans, Jaguars? Hey, who's calling the games from the Bears and the Panthers? Oh, it's 80-year-old El Michaels. Perfect. he's literally 80 years old all time great respect to a legend I mean not very good on Thursdays it's just not

I'm sorry it's I'm sorry if it hurts people for me to say the truth I don't Al Michaels does not carry the same national cachet warmth as say other people do yeah it's not his fault he's 80 years old but he's still able to get a good deal out of it still calling games

yeah look if they're going to keep cutting the check he's going to keep taking him I don't blame I'm not blame I'm not mad at it And honestly, I do agree with Amazon Prime. I do want decent. If you're going to put games on a national TV, they need to be at least teams that are playoff contenders. I don't want to have to see the 49ers against the Cardinals

just because the NFL says you've got to put teams on national TV. Yeah, but Fox, CBS, NBC, Peacock, Prime Video, Netflix. There's only so many marquee matchups. Somebody's got to have Jaguars Titans. And that's why I think, honestly, if I'm CBS and, Fox. I'm kind of pissed off at all these different networks that are jumping in because guess who's taking away games from me? Meanwhile, you're not asking any less for me and I got to put on nine different games involving the Cardinals. They're like, I'm doing all this hump work for you,

putting on all these dog matchups, hiring all these announcers just so they can be seen in only Northern Florida. And then NBC shows up for one game a week and they get the big matchup. And oh, by the way, oh, you're telling me I get Denver Jacksonville. Both teams are 10 wins? NBC's like, now we'll pull that game from you. Thank you. Appreciate it. That's messed up. I would love to be in the room just to kind of see what that's like. Because there are some, you know, when they start plucking games,

do they have real big fights about it or do they, is it kind of a business agreement to say, all right, so you're taking a good game from us in game week four. We're going to take a really good one from week seven. I wonder if it's how much anger anticipated. debate fighting over games are. Because again, if you're CBS and Fox and you're paying for those Sunday games because you carry at least six hours plus your pregame programming and your post game programming, if you do a double-heder day, you're committing nine hours in NFL coverage. Now, granted, you're making the money back with advertising. But it's a lot easier to have one of that 325 game be a really good one as compared to trying to sell me the Jets against the Lions.

it would be okay, but it's not super good matchup. There's just a lot of different. But the problem is if you're Goodell, you're not, if they got $150 million for two games last year. And Netflix couldn't have been happier about it. Yeah. It's like the NFL's got like eight wives. Sounds cool in theory, but then it's just eight headaches,

seven extra headaches. Yeah, but what if all the girls are attractive, though? Yeah, but they all want their love and attention still is. still headaches, Matt. See, like I said, it sounds good in theory. That's what you're saying. But then when you get to the brass tacks. So you don't want to live a life with eight different hot women at one time.

No, that sounds like a nightmare. Okay. Something to think about. I get it. 111 on Sports Talk 790. You would not want to live in Utah back in the 1800s then. No. For a number of reasons.

Closer to Vegas. Hmm. Okay. But there's, A lot of mortgages. It's beautiful out there. It is beautiful. Zion National Park is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. One of my greatest regrets is not doing enough traveling within the state of Utah.

I'll go with you. Let's go. I'm okay. I'll go to Arches. Bryce Canaan. Why are you going on the arches? Arches? Not the golden one.

Oh, okay, just the regular one. I'm not getting a disgusting filetal fish. Your hate for flail fish is frankly rude. It's been on the menu for 60 plus years. It's a fish stick patty. It's not good. With the sauce? in the warmed bun and the slice of cheese?

I was honestly disappointed in you when I ate it. Did you like it so much? You've made fun of my palate for over a decade. So nothing's never going to change with that. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-79. Let's check the American League standings when we come back because I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised

at how mid this team has been so far this year, but yet the Astros are right there in the mix for the American League West Championship. So if you checked, the American League West standings, and this says she gives you plenty of optimism. The Seattle Mariners won last night to beat the Yankees. They're 23 and 18. The athletics are in second place.

They're at 22 and 20. You know they have a negative 28 run differential? My God. How are you any games above 500 with a minus 28? The Astros are in third place at 21 and 20. they're two out. The Rangers are 22 and 21. The Rangers have won four consecutive games, so they're in fourth place, but only two out. And then the Angels are in last place at 17 and 24.

It's a very wittable division. And that to me feels like that Dana Brown is going to have to do something he probably didn't want to do, and that's going to be making a lot of phone calls. Because when you have four teams fighting the division, what is your frame of mind? A, I go get one player that gets us over the top, or B, look who we are right now. and we're hanging around. Who is that one player and where do they play? Second base. Okay, you're satisfied at first.

I think Christian Walker is starting to turn the corner. You're not satisfied, but you know what I mean? You're not moving. You're not making a move. Especially with the financial numbers you've given him. Second would be in play. You're happy at short. You're happy at third.

You're happy behind the dish. You would crowd up the outfield if you went and got a right field. And I do believe that they believe that Zach Desenzo and or Cam Smith can be that guy. will it take all of this season for them to prove that? Don't know. I think you're probably pretty happy with Jake Myers and Center and then whoever's playing on left field on a particular day. Cam Smith, 0 for 2 with a couple of Ks yesterday,

down to 214, hitting 659 as far as OPS. Can we get some people to come apologize? You know what I'm going to ask for on Friday? For the I'm sorry segment. Yeah, we do Fridays, I'm sorry. There needs to be a handful of you that need to call. call and apologize for your unbelievable

non-valided faith in Cam Smith. I like Cam Smith. We had a great time talking with him. We absolutely believe that he is going to be a major league player. He was a first round pick of the Chicago Cubs and was obviously Rossi fast-tracked.

But we were, and I'm not saying this is not how I told you so. But I think you and I are both like, are you guys absolutely sure that the Spring training games you're watching is going to 100% translate to on in April and May success? I said it's just, there's very few cases of that

being evident in baseball. A lot of kids go to spring training and crush the ball in March and are meek in May in April. And the return on Cam Smith, I would say defense is probably better than I thought it was going to be. He's been really good. And probably offensively, significantly

worse than we thought it was going. Good arm, tracking balls well, got a lot of speed out there. He's been good in the field. Not giving up, but there were too many people that were putting too much pressure on the on the Astros. And again, I don't think Dana's listened to 790 for this. Too many people that acting like it would be a travesty if he didn't make the team. Yes. And that now, because you brought him up to begin the year and as much playing time as he has, you in theory have lost a potential year of

arbitration with him. Yeah, it was my, understanding, I think Channel of Rome said this, that you lost that year anyways unless he didn't come up until September. Okay. Which in all likely he would have. He would have, yeah. So, Cam deserved the spot, but I just, if we went back and listened to the show with the people that called in, especially in the month of March, it was, this is I can't miss, no doubt about it. Why is Dana Brown and or Joe's spot of slow playing this? Well, there was a reason for it, because Major League Baseball in the regular season, in real ballparks,

is significantly different than playing a handful of games against double-and-tri-A players of the Cardinals and the Mets and the Nationals. Yeah. And we didn't have time with Bogus Civic earlier, which we're going to have in the next segment. I wanted to ask him, too, and we will down the road. What's he seen from Cam Smith? Because the results right now at the plate have not been great. 659 OPS. I don't know if it's overmatched or not seasoned enough.

Probably some of it. I mean, here's the thing, though. If he kind of stays where he is, I think his role this year has already been defined. I don't think sending him to Sugar Land at this point because he is getting some playing time is all of a sudden going to fix the issues. He'd have to go Ross.

He'd have to go into a prolonged O for 26 in order for the asterers to kind of think about doing that. What if he's right where he is in a month? 214, 659 OPS. I think he's bit playing. I think DeCentzel's playing three times as much as he is. What does it take for him to get options? That's what I'm wondering.

As I said, I think it's, I think a two-week slump of not making any sort of contact getting on the base pass would be more of a sign than what he's doing right now. Because right now he feels like DeCentzel's getting more playing time right now. He had that two home run game. but it's been a month of no home runs since not a whole lot of extra base since. Base hits since. So let's just

learn an example out of this is that while we love Cam Smith and we believe that Cam Smith will be a fine major league baseball player, let's slow the roll down a little bit. Nope, nope. Every prospect is the best ever. Managers are idiots. General manager's idiots. Promote everyone. He's ready to go.

Kids a phenom. Spring training results mean everything. We don't want. learn. We don't learn. But why don't we learn? Why don't you listen to Matt and Ross? We say that you don't trust March numbers or September numbers. Why don't we learn from these things? Well, did you your caller Paul earlier in the week? He knows more than you. He does. Well, he took it, he took it out of me yesterday, too. What did he call you a clown? Was that yesterday? Yeah. Okay. Who do you want? He wanted more Reed Shepard and more. Cam Whitmore. Cam Whitmore.

The Saviors of the Rockets. They would have won the series if we got more Cam Whitmore and Reed Shepard. EMA is not in the business of sitting guys just to prove a point. Certainly not the playoffs. Nope. Let's go to line number one if you can't. Sal, calling us from Central Florida at 126. Hi, Sal.

Hey, Matt. How are you guys doing? Good. We're thank you for calling. My take on Pete Rose is, isn't it ironic that baseball is so heavily invested in gambling right now that it's almost hypocritical to say he's

excluded from baseball because he bet on baseball. They are encouraging everybody in the world to bet on baseball. So that's my take. Well, there is hypocrisy that they used to turn a blind eye to gambling and now they're

enjoying it and reaping the benefits of it. But it doesn't still change the rule, Sal, and thanks to the phone call, that the rule still states, you can bet on things all you want to, you just can't bet on the sport in which you play in. And I understand that. Same thing in basketball. Basketball. basketball. Adam Silver doesn't mind if you run to Las Vegas and gamble blackjack and crabs and

roulette and if you want to bet on the on the Cowboys versus the Eagles, knock it out. These sports leagues don't want you betting on your own sport because you are attacking the integrity of said sport. And I don't blame them for that. It is a touch hypocritical, but you also understand it's about protecting the sanctity of the game. I think you can responsibly have gambling in your sports and yet still have a hard and fast stance of you can't bet on it. You can do it.

You can go bet blackjack. Like, for instance, I as an NBA employee cannot bet on NBA games. I love gambling. I can do it. Play blackjack like nobody else, Matt. Play too much blackjack. Before we get to the. conversation with

Brian with a bogus of is that Subbs on line one there? Yes. I've never seen it spelled that way. S-U-B-E-S. That's not the S-B-E-S-I-N-A-S. Yeah, you forgot to Z. It's all good, man.

I recently seen Ross, and I think I missed you. I think you were out of town or something. I was trying to hide from you. I know, I know. It's okay. It's all good. Hey, so being back in town,

I'm over in E-O, right? I got to go to a few home games, and I've kind of invested in Camp, this says one because he wears number 11 or 10 Kevin Eddie ironically grew up as a third baseman and Cam Sir Cam and Eddie so I'm like I'm hoping this works out and it kind of got the same body built except a little bit smaller

you know because he's a rook but uh one of the things I'll say about uh cam Smith I noticed is he'll have like in the games and the home games I saw he have like uh good at bats where it looks like you can see the pitch well and then there's other you know and this is where the MO this is where the experience comes from and he'll swing is something that's totally totally totally totally out of his own so my hope is that you know if he's batting 260, 270, by the end of the year with like 15 home runs,

I consider the year, she says, because defensively he's fantastic. I mean, the other night he made the jump and catching him in Myers are like sharks on that side of Phil, so, you know, we're no longer worrying about that, but, you know, with no offense, you kind of want a little bit more, you know, props to Jake Myers for hitting 290 and, you know, paying improving. And then one of the things, you're right, though, when it comes to these prospects, look at the Zinzo, right? And remember what kind of come last year.

When they first came up, they looked overwhelmed, kind of like how Camelix now. And just sometimes they just need that seasoning. You know, it just goes like this. And then most importantly, the biggest reason I'm calling him is, I know it isn't today, but Jeff Passon needs a big old shut your bum ass up with that article on Bregman. Oh, my God, it's just proof that the national media just hates all Houston sports. Because, you know, one minute.

Jeff Passon's a douchebag. He's a smarmy, a small suit wearing schmedium dork douche. So exactly. You feel all of what he's got them all. I got them all character. eyes for days. But yeah, I mean,

seeing that, you know, it just like, takes me off as a he's in sports way out, because it's like,

dude, our guys aren't out there, you know, they're not out there, like, you know, domestic abuse, drinking or DUI's drinking like that. Like, yeah,

the 17 things sucks, but all those guys are gone and yet people are still screaming, you know, bleep out too, and it's just sickening. So. Thanks, dudes. I appreciate it.

Good to hear your voice. Gudge, glad you're back in town. Let's hear from Brian Bogussevick next. And by the way, I have a story tomorrow that I'm going to tease ahead. I don't mean to tease ahead this far in advance,

but I just saw it a minute ago. We may even get time for it today. No, it's due tomorrow. Make sure you listen to us tomorrow. 10.30. 10.30 tomorrow. We're going to have a ruling about food in stadiums. Okay.

I'm ready. 10.30 tomorrow. 1030 tomorrow. Great performance for Frommberg, Valdez, and company the Astros won two to one over the Kansas City Royals. Yesterday we had a chance earlier today to catch up with Brian Bogussevic. We'd like to, when we can, replace some of that conversation for you right now as the astro analyst from Space City talks about what he saw last night from the ace lefty. Yeah, I like wins.

I especially like winds that are under two and a half hours. So last night was about as good as it gets for us. Hey, let me tell you, we've kind of brought up this narrative this year of good Frommber versus bad Frommber. Last night was great Frommber. What did you see maybe that we have not seen even some of his better performances earlier in the year? Well, first of all, he had all three of his pitches working, fastball changeup and the curveball. And there have been, you know, more than a handful of starts where he hasn't had everything. And it's taken him a couple of innings to feel out what is working and what is not working and then adjust accordingly.

He had everything going from the jump yesterday. And for him, that means everything is down. If you look at a spray chart of his pitches from yesterday, everything with the bottom third of the zone and below. And with the guy who has such big movement on his sinker, if he can start it at the knees and drop it below, he's going to get a ton of curveballs. If he can convince hitters that he's going to be at that bottom of the zone and they're going to have to deal with that pitch and they're going to have to swing at that pitch, he can then go to the curveball and get them chasing pitches below the zone for a lot of swing and miss. say, you know, when the change-up is coming out of the same slot as the fastball, and they're having to, you know, rush out there trying to get to 95, 96,

it's going to be even more weak contact ground balls. And when you're seeing everything on the ground from Framber and then couple that with a bunch of swings and misses on the curveball, he's going to be almost impossible to beat. Brian, shouldn't he have more nights like this? I mean, look, not every pitcher for every start is going to be able to give you eight innings or going to be, you know, it'll be nights where you get knocked around a little bit. But by the type of pitches he throws, with the fluidity in his motion, shouldn't he be a guy, even as long as he's been in the major leagues,

that should be around that an 85, 90, 995 pitch count to go deep in the games? Isn't that what Framber was kind of built for? Yeah, you look at the type of pitcher he is, you know, even though he can get swings and misses at a high rate, especially with his curveball, he is at his core a pitch-to-contact action type of pitcher, and that typically lends itself to guys going deep in games. And, you know, sort of the rules of engagement have changed over the last 20 years of how deep you're willing to let guys go. But if there is a profile for the type of pitcher that you can just put out there and push a little bit further

or be willing to throw on short rest if need be, he is that guy because everything he does is predicated on movement. And movement, even if you get a little bit tired, even if your pitch count is up near 100, even if you're, you know, you've been throwing every fifth day or every fourth day, whatever it could be, that doesn't change. Sometimes it'll even get better with a little bit of fatigue. So, yes, he is a guy where if you're going to look at anybody in that rotation and say who can get pushed a little bit, it's definitely him. Brian Bogussevik with us here on Sports Talk 790. Esok Paratus with the walk off and pulled into the Crawford boxes.

just overall what you've been seeing from him as a hitter. And for a guy for him who is such heavy pull, what exactly, how does he end up like that, especially with opposing pitchers, know that he's going to try to pull everything, and he's still able to do it? For him, it's by design, and it's by design in how he approaches his at bat.

Sometimes you hear about guys who are heavy, heavy pull hitters, and you think, well, they must just be cheating. They must just be guessing, swinging early. They're going to be susceptible to chasing. You know, you've seen a million of those guys come along, and it typically doesn't go well. I've been really impressed with him watching him on a day-in and day-out basis of how he executes, you know, his plan of being a pull hitter. And it's all about knowing what pitches he can handle, knowing what pitches he can do that with.

And he's really stubborn in his at-peachers. He's not going to go and give in and swing at, you know, a sinker down and away early in the count and roll over it. He's looking for breaking balls up. He's looking for fastballs on the inner third that he can turn on. And he'll make the adjustment late in the end up at that and deal with a tough pitch, you know, with two strikes if need be. But he really has a good idea of what pitches he can handle. And he's very stubborn in waiting out those pitches. That's why he walks.

He walks a lot not because, you know, he's just trying to get on base. because he's passive. He walks a lot because he doesn't give in in hunting his pitches. And on Jake Myers, this is a running bit here, Brian, on the show that I'm the president of the Jake Myers fan club. We're having a good May, but we also had a good May last year. What are you seeing from him now? Does it feel different or somewhat the same from the May that he had last year where we're almost waiting for the other shoe to drop? No, I think it feels different. I think it feels different in that it's more consistent. We've seen him get hot at times before, but it was very, very much an all or nothing type of hot streak. You know, he'd get four or five games in a row where everything was falling in,

and you could just see that he was riding this hot wave, and then it would eventually come back to baseline. But right now, it's just a lot of good at bats. It's a lot of hard contact. Even if you look back at the series in Milwaukee, you know, he got a base hit in every game, but there were probably two or three balls that he hit hard every game and they didn't all fall in. So there's a lot more volume of quality. And he also feels like he's gotten comfortable with his approach. And he's obviously being more aggressive early in at bat.

He doesn't want to get to two strikes where pitchers can really try to expand the zone on him. And once you get comfortable with how you want to approach and at bat, it really settles you. It really gives you a good gauge as a hitter. of when was I successful in executing my plan and when was I not? And it gives you something to fall back on when you're trying to evaluate. Am I doing what I need to do or not? You know, other than just did I get a hit? Did I not get a hit?

And it seems like he's very comfortable and very settled in how he wants to approach at bats, which has resulted in a lot more consistency. Are we going to see somebody not named Jeremy Pena in the leadoff spot for the foreseeable future for the local nine? And are you surprised it's gone as well as it has? Are you surprised that Jose went to him and said, let's make a change? And just your general thoughts about what now he's been able to do, kind of finding the most comfortable spot in the line of for him in probably a couple of years now. Yeah, I think that's his spot.

And I think it's a really good fit. You know, all the things that he can do from handling his at-back to, you know, how dynamic he is on the basis, to just, you know, being sort of an energy type of guy at the top of the, order, it's a really good fit. And, you know, am I surprised that Jose went to him and said, hey, let's make this change? No, because that's what Jose Al-Tuvae is. You know, as great a player as he is, he's an even better teammate.

So, no, I'm not surprised by the whole situation. And, you know, you have to be able to make quick adjustments being in the leadoff spot. You're going to get a ton of that bat. You're going to have, you know, you're going to be the guy getting that fifth or sixth plate appearance at the end of the game. so you cannot be susceptible to making the same out over and over again. And he's made a lot of quick adjustments this year. So it's been a really good fit up there.

Bogey, we do a segment on Tuesdays called gut feelings. We just make kind of like predictions. I want to get a gut feeling from you on. How is Wright Field ultimately going to be settled this year? Is it a mixture of Desenzo and Smith? Do you think one of the two guys takes over? What are your thoughts about both of the guys and how Joe is kind of trying to figure out which hot got to keep on up every single day?

I think as is right now, I think it stays as a mixture of playing time. You know, both guys bring things to the table that are valuable. Zach Zendez has had a ton of quality at bats. Camp Smith continues to improve, but is also turning into not just, you know, a solid outfielder, but a very, very good defensive outfielder. I think the only thing that can throw a wrench in that is if they ever, if they eventually make a move to get a left-handed piece in the outfield, you know, it's a very right-handed team,

and that seems like it's the one place that they could add a left-handed bat. And then you're going to have to make a decision on one of those two guys probably. But as is, I think they're doing a nice job finding favorable matchups. I think either one of those guys at this point, if you throw them out there every day, every day, it might be a little bit too much. But, you know, exposing them to favorable matchups has been working so far. again, Brian Bogussevich. You can catch him every Wednesday at 10 o'clock on Sports Talk 790.

Believe it or not, up next, shoeless Joe, and Pete Rose, 145 on Sports Talk 790. 151 on Sports Talk 790, finale of the three-game series. Russell on the On Deck show. I mean, it's fine. A few highlights, few recaps. I'm heading out of the ballpark. You are? Yeah.

I'm going to get some tacos first, but. Are you? Yeah. Yeah, the clubhouse on the open, the 3-10, so. Oh, I'm going to go. I was just going to get, Joe. Shake hands, kiss babies. I get you. I guess I can go in there, but, I mean, you can go in there.

They don't bite. No, I know. I've been in the clubhouse before. I talked to Christian Walker just yesterday. That's great. I'm proud of you. Good. Hey, Brian McTagger with us on the show tomorrow.

I just don't get it tomorrow. I feel like tomorrow we could have a loaded I just don't get segment. Get a lot of things. I don't get what we did the day between 11, 30, and 12. That was about as bad at radio. I think you're a whiner. I think I'm pretty accurate. First of all, our phones failed.

That's true. People finally called in and wanted to be positive. It made me happy. We didn't have to do it. That's fine. We can be all negative and doom and gloom. But it's so cathartic. You're not getting rid.

It's not one for one. It's one out of four. Okay, so one week a month, we're going to make it positive. How about once a quarter? That feels better. Okay, once a quarter. That feels better. All right.

Five minutes left to go on the show. show. What should we do? We should play America's fastest growing sports radio game show. We simply call it it B. Believe it or not. And here's how it works. You call 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90.

Today's edition of Believe or not is all things about shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose. I'll read your statement about you, one of these two gentlemen, the statement's completely utterly accurate. You'll say this. Believe it. If a statement's erroneous, full of bunk and made up, you'll say this. Two believe it or not's in a row. Win your prize.

What are you playing for today? Jonathan. A pair of tickets to see Chris Isaac live on July 29th at the House of Blues. That's a guarantee POA night. You know that, right? Point of attack? Exactly. As soon as we say Chris Isaac tickets, people started dropping off.

Oh, off. Phone lines open, folks. Phone lines are wide open for Chris Isaac. 713-212-5-7-90. Matt on 7-90. Ready to play, believe it or not? I believe it. Shoeless Joe Jackson was an accomplished amateur boxer.

As a teen, he won the South Carolina State Middleweight Championship. Believe it or not. Not. All right, you're halfway to Chris Isaac. Here we go. Are you married, by the way, Matt? No. Oh, girlfriend?

Sort of. It's complicated. Let me tell you, take her to Chris Isaac. It'll do your wonders. Here we go. Shulis Joe Jackson had a tough childhood. He worked 12-hour shifts at a textile mill at age six and nearly died of measles at age 10. Believe it or not?

Believe it? You're going to Chris Isaac with that girl. It's complicated. Congratulations. I always hate it when people on their Facebook status says it's complicated. How complicated can be? you're together or you're not together. I think it's rare these days.

Chris on 790, Chris, you're ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. Shoeless Joe Jackson's famous bat was named Black Betsy. It even broke in 1911, and he had it repaired and used it for the rest of his career. Believe it or not? Not. That is a believe it. How do you not know about Miss Betsy?

Damn. Thomas on 790, Thomas. What was your favorite part of today's 10-2 radio show? let's see I would have to say when you talked about how nobody wanted to go see Chris Iguac in concert

and I was thinking yeah you'd have a funny little comedy on HBO I think you know my wife would probably enjoy that so anyway yeah I guess I didn't realize why nobody likes Chris Eisen no and that's a comedian no he's a singer but he actually had a little one hour show

So basically you just joined the show within the last three minutes. We had three hours and 45 minutes of incredible radio programming, and you decided to choose the last minute of our show. Oh, good luck anyway. Well, I get out of work, when I get out of work. I know. When you show on immediately. That's what I'm talking about.

I'm in a good mood after that victory. Yes, exactly. Good luck to you, friend. Here we go. In 1998, Joe Jackson retroactively was given two MVP awards by Bill James Society for American Baseball Research. Believe it or not. I'll say believe it.

No, you shouldn't have it. Good luck on the Chris Isling thing. I know. Landman on 790, Landman, you're ready to play Believe it or not? Believe it. Pete Rose was a poor student in high school. Had to repeat his sophomore year. Believe it or not. Leave it. There you go. Statement number two for the win.

According to the Dow report in 1987, Pete Rose bet on at least 52 Reds games, wagering no less than $10,000 per day. Believe it or not. Matt. It was a main. Believe it. Big money spender there.

Matt on 790, Matt, you're ready to play, believe it or not? Matt won. Oh, Matt, of course you already loved Matt, believe it or not. You won. That's why I knew that. Roger on 790, ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. Pete Rose's parents, Pete Sr., and Laverne, men at a baseball game.

Believe it or not? Not. They did, and they loved each other. Believe it. Intensely. Shout up, Laverne Rose. You don't, is there anybody named Laverne in America today, right? No.

The last one I remember is DeFazio. That's the one I only want to remember. And on that, we'll end the show. The National Association of Broadcasters called they want no part of today's program. But they do want for five Marcones now. They do want the two to six show. It's the A team with Wexelman and Clanton next here on 790. Woo-hoo!