The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Did Texans Give You Playoff Hopes? Nico Harrison Out Of Dallas

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Did Texans Give You Playoff Hopes? Nico Harrison Out Of Dallas...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. 10-1 in H-Town. Good morning. And welcome to a Tuesday edition of the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Sports rave with the week off. I'll be hanging out with you for a couple hours. It's me and Jonathan. Just chilling, relaxing, enjoying life.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Enjoying life. That's right. And then Cole Thompson is going to come in to interrupt our life between noon and two. Looking forward to him hanging out. with us for a couple of hours and we will have gut fillings coming up at 1130 today we'll have believe it or not today at 150 am i think i'm going to go with the veterans day theme on this i don't know i'm not created the questions just yet but uh that is the goal on that uh rarely jonathan as i try to teach you a few things about this business i think i've done a pretty decent job of
Starting point is 00:00:50 the wise and wise not so you when you do a houston sports show you're supposed to lead off with Houston sports things. Well, let's be brutally honest. We are a day removed from the Texans games. That's not the top hot topic conversation. The Rockets did not play last night. There have been no big moves on the Astros front at the general manager's meetings. Those are separate from the winter meetings.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Okay. So sometimes you've got to go big picture. And I want to tell you all, what is going on in Dallas right now as we speak, is pretty incredible. Oh, I just saw this this morning, yeah. If you have not heard, and it came down about a half an hour ago, that the Dallas Mavericks are going to fire their general manager, Nico Harrison. It is the worst kept secret in sports that he is absolutely one of the most hated despised people that you could find anywhere in the Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan area. He probably has more discussed on him than even Jerry Jones at 80-plus years old
Starting point is 00:01:59 running the Dallas Cowboys into what it will be for the 19th consecutive mediocre season for them. Well, Jerry Jones has fans. I mean, he does. He does. He does. So, for those of you who don't know the situation, and look, we're not the greatest NBA city, and we certainly aren't a great NBA city when it comes to other teams not named the Houston Rockets. Nico Harrison was the one that the general manager of the Mavericks
Starting point is 00:02:23 that traded Luca Donchich for Max Christie and Anthony Davis and some draft picks and whatnot and Max Christie's been a nice NBA player but the main go-to star of this was obviously on the Maverick side Luca Donchich a gen you know you hate to use the term generational but he's a generational player a perennial all-star, a perennial all-first NBA team, a team that you build around, a player, that should say.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And then on the other side of things, you have Anthony Davis coming from the Lakers to the Dallas Mavericks. Anthony Davis is a very accomplished NBA basketball player. He just has one major issue, and it's been his issue really since he first left Kentucky all those years ago. He just can't stay healthy. And he's played only a handful of games since the trade deadline, not the trading line, since the train took place.
Starting point is 00:03:16 He's missed a bunch of games so far for the Mavericks this season. He missed a bunch of games for the Mavericks last season after the trade. In fact, the Rockets played the Mavericks, the very first game that Anthony Davis wore a Dallas Maverick uniform. And he was great for the first half until he got hurt. So you don't trade a franchise player unless you're getting the most incredible massive haulback. You're not trading a franchise player. franchise as player unless he's in the final year of his contract and he basically tells the
Starting point is 00:03:47 whole wide world, I'm not resigning here. Those were scenarios that were not in play. Luca Donchich was going to sign a Supermax deal with the Dallas Mavericks and was going to be a Dallas Maverick for my guess is the majority of his NBA career, if not his entire NBA career. So we've talked about this for many months. We have discussed this. America has, the Dallas Mavericks have received more negative attention in this last six months and they could have ever had their previous I think their franchise was made was created in 1980 so the previous 45 years they had more negativity so finally the sellout streak ended in Dallas the fire Nico chance were happening all last season the Mavericks are off to a lousy start this season and then last night happened
Starting point is 00:04:41 Patrick Dumont is the owner of the Mavericks. We used to be Mark Cuban, but Mark Cuban sold the majority stake of it. As a matter of fact, Mark Cuban has no interaction at all with the Dallas Mavericks except being just being a very public fan. So Patrick Dumont goes to the game last night. And from what I'm guessing, he's, he hasn't been going to a lot of games, probably for the right reason. Because even though Nico Harrison made the deal,
Starting point is 00:05:11 Nico Harrison has to go to his owner, Patrick Dumont, and say, hey, here's the trade. I need you to sign off on this. So clearly, Patrick Dumont knew what was going down. He had to have given the A-OK to make this happen. Okay? So Patrick Dumont, the owner of the Mavericks, is not void of blame during this whole situation. So apparently there was this kid. And he's 18 years old.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He's not like a 12-year-old, 13-year-old. He's 18-year-old. He's a freshman in SMU that apparently not too long ago, and I can't remember the... I don't know what the exact date is this, basically gave a middle finger to Patrick Dumont when he saw him on the floor at a recent game.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Really? The dad, this of this kid that goes to SMU, said, hey, next time you see Patrick Dumont, you need to walk up to him and apologize. This is like a... This is almost like a Disney movie, right? I mean, it's all the sudden of like a script.
Starting point is 00:06:13 The plot is pretty good. So what does Dumont do? He tells the kid, the young adult, whatever you want to describe him as. Right. To sit next to him for a while at the game last night. Okay. So we did.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You know what the kid was wearing? A Lucca Lakers jersey. Oh. So apparently the kid spoke to members of the media in Dallas after last night's game. They played the Bucks, by the way. And the kid said that Dumont told him,
Starting point is 00:06:48 one, he felt bad for the lucre trade. Two, it wasn't in the best interest of the franchise. Three, he made a mistake, and he's trying to rectify it. And four, wants to win back to fan base. The owner's telling the kid this. The owner's telling the kid this. Okay, wow. Thus, at about 9.30 this morning,
Starting point is 00:07:08 word traveled around the NBA streets. that Nico Harrison was going to be meeting at 10 o'clock where he was going to be relieved of his duties as a general manager. Now, the question is, is Nico Harrison the fall guy? Or did Nico Harrison come to the owner of the team, Patrick Dumont, and give him this, Luke is out of shape. He doesn't care. He just wants to play. He wants to eat.
Starting point is 00:07:33 He wants to drink beer. He doesn't care about the fortune of the franchise. we need to get rid of him before we really start to spend mega money on him. Because sometimes, you know, when you hire a general manager, you trust that person because he's intimately involved in what the organization and what the league is doing. If you're an owner of an NBA team, yeah, you've got a pretty good, you should have a pretty good vibe of what your team is all about
Starting point is 00:07:56 and what's going on in the NBA world. But you hire a general manager to, I mean, just like an owner of a restaurant. Owner of a restaurant should know what's going on, but the general manager is intimately involved. in the day-to-day operation of the cooks, the wait staff, the pricing, the alcohol, the sales, the ordering. I mean, so you have to have a lieutenant behind you. And it'll be curious if the Mavericks have a press conference today as to whether or not
Starting point is 00:08:25 Patrick Dumont, the owner of the team, will address such a thing. So maybe he got incredibly bad advice from his general manager. But the fallout is incredible. And the reason why I brought this up to open up the show today was, A, because there's not a lot of Houston stuff going on, but B, it probably gives you a rare example of how fans can get someone fired. I don't, I mean, I can't remember maybe a handful of times in my life that I've covered or talked about a team, at least from a Houston perspective. do that got someone fired now i'll give you the one i comes to mind to me was what was it uh two thousand four and i may be off by year and if i am i apologize jimmy williams was the manager of the uh houston astros and jimmy williams who's no longer with us uh was a cranky
Starting point is 00:09:31 mean-spirited sobby and hopefully he's resting peacefully as we speak But he was a difficult person to try to embrace. And I remember at the All-Star game, and again, if I'm missing any of these details, again, we're talking about 20-plus years ago. So I apologize if I'm not giving me everything exactly to the T. But I remember at the All-Star game, Jimmy Williams, I believe, was a position coach on the All-Star team. And he got booed at the time was Minutemade Parker. I think it was called Minutemade. And I remember Drayton McLean, I think, letting him go shortly after that and hiring Phil Garner and the asteros were able to go on to the playoffs and eventually go to the World Series in 2005.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So it does happen. Coaches, general managers can lose their job if public reaction is so terrible. But it doesn't happen a lot. It sort of happened here in Houston with the Jack Easterby bit. y'all hated jack easterby we hated jack easterby jack easterby was a fraud and the problem was the cow never figured it out it took hannah to figure it out so god bless hannah for figuring it out she knew the organization had a terrible reputation with a jerk for a head coach and a jerk for a whatever the hell he was the vice president of football
Starting point is 00:11:03 operations. And then giving Bill O'Brien the GM tag. I mean, just one stupid move after the other. So sometimes fan reaction can't get things done and sometimes shouldn't get things done because sometimes you guys are too quick to get people fired and trade it away. Sometimes you're just going to be patient.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But in this particular case, you couldn't go to Dallas. Nico Harrison couldn't go to a bar or a restaurant or a game and not have to hear about fire Nico chance. They made special seats for him at American Airlines Center so he could walk away and go to a private tunnel just so he would have no interaction with the fans when they were screaming fire Nico. That's how crazy it got.
Starting point is 00:12:00 But now apparently it's all over. So again, I don't usually lead the radio show off with Dallas bit because, you know, Houston greater than in Dallas and just about everything, as we all know. But it is amazing to me that it took an 18-year-old who dropped the middle finger on the owner of the Dallas Mavericks. The dad tells him to go apologize for his behavior. He winds up sitting courtside, won a Luker Laker jersey, and he was the fate of come. plea of Nico Harrison's career as a general manager of the Dallas Mavericks. It's a pretty incredible story, don't you think, gang? If you'd like to discuss, if you think you've had something to do with a coach being
Starting point is 00:12:49 fired for the right reason, maybe you were the anti-jackie should be cried out there. Maybe you were the one that were screaming, you suck to Bill O'Brien, he told you you suck too. Maybe you hadn't something to do with it. 713-212-5-790 7-1-3-212-5-7-9-0 with you today until 2 o'clock this afternoon we've got to gut feelings at 1130 Cole Thompson's going to drop by and hang out with us noon until 2
Starting point is 00:13:16 we got believe it or not today at 150 we want you guys involved so just as a sports observer not a fan of the Mavericks not a fan of any Dallas team isn't this an interesting story to y'all and that's what we do in sports radio. We're at least supposed to bring interesting things to you.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And I think we have. 1014 on Sports Talk 790. 713-212-5-790. 10-20 on Sports Talk 790. It is the Matt Thomas Show at Ross. Ross is off today. I'm still trying to get over this cold. Wow, if anybody has any anecdotal things to help me out,
Starting point is 00:13:58 I would appreciate it. I get a cold about two times a year. And unfortunately, it's during the NBA season, the worst time for me. How does somebody go from like 75 degrees to 40? And every time I go over to this massive temperature change, I wind up getting a terrible cold out of it. Now, I guess I could take some more like immune deficiency or I'm not immune deficient, but I just like, I need an immune booster, right?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Do you know those emergency packs? You put in your water, emergency? Really? So, yeah, it's like, helps you with your vitamins and your immune system. Is it taste bad or is it all right? If you put a good amount of it, it tastes like they have different flavors, but it's kind of like a medicine. I'll take, let me tell you, as long as it doesn't taste like Alka-Seltzer, I'm okay with it. And all you need is one bottle of it, like take one.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Like if you're, say you're traveling, you just, you know, take that 16 ounce water. You should look it up. It's really actually really good to help your immune system. Okay, good. Because I'm looking for an little immune boost. because like I said every you know when we bounce we bounce like you know like I can think about it in the last three weeks
Starting point is 00:15:03 I've gone Toronto Boston Houston Atlanta Birmingham Houston San Antonio Memphis Milwaukee here I mean I'm you know that's just the trials and tribulations of doing an NBA season I'm okay with that but and most time it's fine but just it's just when this temperature change kicks into play
Starting point is 00:15:23 when you're bouncing 40 degrees in each direction that's when it really just kind of screw with me. So I'll take any advice you guys may have. All right. 713212-5-790. If you want to chime in, 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Let me ask you this. Because I brought up the Nick, not the Nick Casera, the situation with the Texans before with Jack Easterby about how public opinion really shaped how the Texans had to make a change. And Ryan, Fortson on Twitter, good friend of the show, says, don't you think Click with the Stroes kind of falls in that category?
Starting point is 00:16:05 Hmm. I'm curious. Did y'all want James Click fired? Now, I don't want to recreate or revisit history and give out some inaccuracies. I would have to say in the James Click administration that you, fans wanted him to be perhaps more aggressive, but I don't think you spent a lot of time calling our show during that time going. This guy is completely inept.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Now, clearly, Jim Crane and James Click did not see the eye to eye on things. It's very rare that a team wins a world championship, and the general manager gets a one-year extension after that, and James Click's like, you know. No, I need something a little more with a little more juice to it. But I'm trying to think, to me, it's more of the Easterby PR disaster, the Bill O'Brien coach and general manager disaster that people around the league and you as fans, I mean, the easiest thing you did to help push that along, Texans fans, if you didn't show up.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You weren't going to games. You weren't bags on your head. You were embarrassed. Now, granted, the team was also not very good. And all the way, by the way, at the same time, you had the starting of the Deshawn Watson issues, which certainly lasted a couple of seasons. But have we ever, again, I use Jimmy Williams an example being booted at the All-Star game. I don't know if James Click was publicly told.
Starting point is 00:17:53 to go away. I don't know if that's the case. But, you know, like I said, if I went back and listened to old air checks to the show, maybe I'd be different. But the reality is this, it can happen. But it's not,
Starting point is 00:18:05 it would be like, I mean, look, you've got to realize Luca Donchich was the most valuable player on the Dallas Maverick franchise. For the longest time, Luca Donchich was a guy that was going to be a franchise
Starting point is 00:18:20 that you were going to basically, he was the segue, between the Great Days of Dirt Novitsky and the future of the Dallas Mavericks. And yeah, was he Doey? Yes, was he in pristine shape? No. But he woke up scoring 25 points a game,
Starting point is 00:18:36 dishing out 11 assists, rebounding eight times, and taking over games when he wanted to. You took the good with the bad. And this guy Dumont, who owns the Mavericks, as I said before, had to sign off on it. Does Dumont, when he has a
Starting point is 00:18:53 a press conference today or tomorrow, whatever that may be. Say, you know what? I hired a bad guy. I got some bad advice. Ryan on 790 and 1025. Ryan, good morning. Morning. I was listening on the I heart radio app and then called. I missed the part. I didn't know you were going to talk about click. My bad. I was going to help you out with the cold thing, though. Go ahead. You there? Yeah. Okay, so you need one emergency. Jonathan's right. You need to chuck that. stuff. But the reason people start getting sick this time of here is because they finally turn on their heater after so long and you're burning up dust and all this crap. Oh, great. That's going to make you sick. Great. You need to, what you do is fire up your heater before it gets cold, leave all the windows open and clean it out.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Light all that stuff up so it'll clear out. That way, when it gets cold, you turn on your heater, you're not just breathing in all this dust and crap. Also change your air filters. Wow, look at this sage advice I'm getting from you today. I was on expecting that from you. We have to, I was telling John that I used to build homes and that we would tell people that all the time. If you forget your filters and you don't turn on your heater, it's that nasty burn smell when you first turn it on in December. Yeah. All that is is just burning all that crap. And that'll get you real sick. But see, the problem was I was in Memphis and felt fine.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I was in San Antonio and God, okay. And as soon as I got up to Milwaukee where it was like 35 degrees cooler, that's when I started to get the sniffles. And that's why I got the full-fledged cold. So thank you, Ryan. for the good advice there. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. We'll see you later.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Bye. All right. Yeah, I think I want to do, I think I want to call baseball games because that weather, generally speaking, is the same for six months. Now, maybe a little chilly in like March, but you give me April to September, outdoors, ballparks, and then dome stadiums. Like, I'm always, like, I'm already looking forward to, like, my trip next week is to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Like, 42 degrees there. Can't have that. I think the Rockets should only play teams in warm weather cities. I'm just convinced of that. Jonathan, a 80 game schedule of nothing but playing San Antonio Phoenix and the Lakers over and over again. You don't go to Phoenix. You do like Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I like Phoenix a lot. That's right. That's right. You know, and they don't have grass that you can smoke, but they don't have grass that you can actually walk on. Okay, Matt. I mean, not that I'm endorsing at or telling you not to do it. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Just saying it's out there. 1027 on the Matt Thomas show with Raw. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. All right, so did we as Houstonians, as Houston sports fans, have we helped get a guy fired? As much as the Mavericks have fans fired general manager, Nico Harrison.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It's a decent question. We'll get to more of that coming up. Plus, our friends in Baton Rouge, and I think I need Gordy to come help me out with it. It appears that Mr. Kelly, Brian Kelly, wants all of his money. Really? And LSU's like, I don't think we're going to be able to give you all your money. So it's a very, very tumultuous situation.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And another thing. We've got to talk about that horrendous football game last night between Philadelphia and Green Bay. I mean, let me tell you something, Roo Roob TV subscribers, you consider yourself blessed. that you didn't have to watch that last night. There was nothing on TV that I cared about. So I put that on. I think I lost five years of my life watching how boring Philadelphia and Green Bay is. Triple E told me he fell asleep trying to watch it.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Oh, my God, it was terrible. Just terrible. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Ross is in California for the week. Hope he's getting some nice downtime. Jonathan hanging out with me until noon. Jonathan and I will be joined by our buddy Cole Thompson. and he will be on with us from 12 o'clock until 2.
Starting point is 00:22:54 You know me tell you something, Jonathan, when you'd be doing this radio show, we're going to be approaching 16 years on the first of the year. Your audience, we're like family. Now, we don't always agree on everything, and we're sometimes going to fight, but we still love each other at the very end. And I know there's a sign of love
Starting point is 00:23:11 when I get numerous emails and Facebook messages and IG DMs about the McRib coming back. So that's the one thing. That was very wholesome, actually. It made me feel warm and cuddly inside because, again, my partner, as you know, Ross despises McRibs, and he's just an American, but that's one issue. Do you know what I've been also getting? And I put this on Twitter yesterday.
Starting point is 00:23:35 What's up? These Bob Barker AI generated videos. Oh, snap. Have you seen them? No, I haven't seen. No. Okay. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:23:45 How do I put this politely? They're crude? I can see where this is going They're stereotypical They're foul-mouthed Yet I can't take my eyes off of them That's brainwrap Matt You got to start with what the AI videos man
Starting point is 00:24:09 You got to just But people are sending me Endless amounts of Bob Barker AI videos So what do I do? I send them to other people And they're like This is so wrong so what I'm going to do to you for you Jonathan today
Starting point is 00:24:24 is I'm going to send you three to four of them today and you're going to say Matt these are insensitive I can't handle this this is wrong and please stop sending me or you'll be sending me another message saying Matt these are wrong
Starting point is 00:24:40 these are insensitive send me some more there are probably 20 of them out there at least I don't think I'm going to ask this to me more though I will just say if you are, uh, white, I got to send it to my mom, actually. If you, if they're funny, I'll say, I know how, how, how, how, how, here's the question I'd ask. How sensitive are you, is your mother towards, here's a thing. If you're white, black, Hispanic, fat in shape from another country, everybody gets insulted. No, the mom's got dark humor. She's, she's got dark humor. She got, she got, she, so she won't be like, son, what did you send this from? This is so rude. No, especially because she met him, so she's going to laugh about it. Okay, so I'm going to send you some, and then when we come back, I want you to watch them during the next break, and I want you to tell me how you feel.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Because, again, if it's too much for you, I will once, I will pre-apologize to you, and I will not send you anymore. But if you like them, I'll just forward you, what is it getting sent to me? Now, I'm curious. You should be curious. Richard in Lake City at 1036 on the Matt Thomas show at Ross. Richard, good morning. Good morning, Matt.
Starting point is 00:25:47 um so first off a little cold advice um i used to get sick every winter when the heaters would come on until a friend explained to me that when the dry when the heaters go on the sinuses dry out and they get cracked and then it's easy for the germs to get in there so what i what we what i started doing was just drink you know that air like uh saline solution has no medicine in it you just you're just pumping like kind of a salt water thing into your sinuses to keep them high And that, everything I started doing that, I've no longer gotten any kind of sinus infection or any kind of cold in the winter time. So there's the, there's my piece of help. Thank you for that. I'm always looking for good advice on that. Thank you very much. And the, uh, because we need you at the top of your game. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:35 It's a big season. And what I saw the other night that I haven't heard anyone really talking about. And I was wondering if you saw it is during the Milwaukee game in the second half, there was a moment. moment when the ball, I think it had found KD, and Alpi was calling for it, but, like, there was no movement, but Reed moved to the spot. Like, there was movement, and Reed was trying to move, but Alpi was kind of in the spot Reed had moved to. And I saw Reed, like, effectively telling Alpi, get, you need to move, like, you need to move. And I was just really encouraged to see Reed, I wouldn't say he was yelling at Alpi, but to see him asserting himself into the
Starting point is 00:27:25 play to kind of open Alpi up to what needed to happen. And I think it led to a point. Have you seen that? Have you seen Reed begin to assert himself more vocally on the court? I don't know if it's vocally. Here's the thing. I'm not close to the court of these games, sadly. So I can't tell you what exactly is being said. I'm just looking at him having more confidence. I'm looking at him going, you know what? I've got to embrace this opportunity to be this backup guard that I need to be. I need to be this instant
Starting point is 00:27:53 offense guy. I need to take some more shots. I need to take some more chance defensively with stealing the basketball because the steal numbers are really starting to pick up here. He's just progressing. Now again, it could be a small stretch of games. It could be the opponent or it could be, you know what? Sometimes kids just take a while to get
Starting point is 00:28:09 used to the NBA lifestyle. And if Reed Shepard can give me consistent work like he's done on this three-game road trip that we just finished, that's a really good sign for a rocket, you know, having him and Eason come off the bench on a semi-regular basis is going to give this team a lot of extra
Starting point is 00:28:25 scoring. Well, and I think that's what I'm most excited about. I mean, I'm glad to see his threes going in. I'm glad to see him playing with more confidence. But the thing I really, really am happy to see from him is him, in effect, not playing kind of the little brother at the kitty table,
Starting point is 00:28:41 but beginning, I want him to own his part of the court as much as the other guys, because it feels like this team, and Alpi's really good at it. They communicate well, they call out what they see, and they expect, they make demands on each other. And I think, Reed,
Starting point is 00:28:57 that's a maturity thing, and he's young, but the sooner he develops that, the happier I'm going to be, and I think the better will be. Well, the reality is this. If it doesn't happen this year for as good as a team's going to be, Richard, they're going to have to make a move. And I think the Rockets would rather have a number
Starting point is 00:29:13 three pick be a role guy for this team. and help out as compared to going, well, we lost a draft pick. So it's good on him because he's going to be given every opportunity to inherit those backup minutes and, you know, maybe even spots start on nights where you want to move them into the two-guards spot. So I hope you and I having this conversation is good stuff and it only gets better because if he gives you what the rockets have gotten from him the last three games, this is going to be a nice acquisition, a nice roll piece for this basketball team.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah, and I hope you feel better, sir. Thank you. I don't feel terrible. And thank you for the phone call. I just don't want to, I don't have to bounce back and forth of this all year long. So, Jonathan, I need you to go on a Walgreens for me, ball greens and get me some of whatever you're talking about there. Yeah, and you definitely should get them for the pack. Because they come in a pretty, like, they're not too expensive,
Starting point is 00:30:00 and they come in a big pack with a bunch of packets in them. Okay. And just put it for the house to or like when you travel, put in your little suitcase. Okay. And if it works out there, I'll give you all the credit in the world. And if it doesn't, I'll just blame you. No, it's going to help for sure. By the way, I'm getting about to send you me your first.
Starting point is 00:30:12 All these videos, by the way, are on TikTok. I'll be sending you this TikTok in a minute here. K, so what's your Chilican question today? Good morning. Good morning. Can you hear me all right? Yes, sir. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:23 What I wanted to talk about was why the Mavericks fans are so upset. I think when you trade, like you said, you use the term very lightly, but it is what it is. Luca is a generational talent. When you trade someone like that, and you only. talk to one team and one team that was the Los Angeles Lakers and you couldn't have
Starting point is 00:30:50 farmed the entire league if you wanted to to have someone come back I mean if you're going to trade Luca fine but the return that they got was so crazy bad that the only thing I can ever think about is if I try to think something locally it'd be like I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:06 the Texans trading a position player for a washed up running back. Well how about this? I got one for you. It was as bad as when Bill O'Brien traded DeAndre Hopkins for, what's his face? David Johnson. Yeah, David Johnson.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Remember that in the swap of the fourth round? That was exactly the better was. If the Texans traded a great positional player in his prime for someone who is clearly past his prime. But as much as we love DeAndre Hopkins, he was not
Starting point is 00:31:40 a Luca Donchis. Luka Dons was no. no all over the world and the fact that you talk to one person right one person only it being rob polinka which everyone thought that the lakers were about to coast into to irrelevancy and they just handed them lucidonches that is what drove not only a non-mavericks fan crazy but just the entire sports world into a frenzy it was an absolute asinine take they shouldn't have done it and to have this much backlash. And I feel like they're surprised by the backlash. They're so tone-depth that it's crazy to me that I am so glad that we have Stone and we
Starting point is 00:32:24 have E-May running our front office and we can never touch anything that bad compared to what Mavericks did to their fans and to the NBA in general. It's just crazy. Well, here's the thing, Kay, so you could probably, if you were so. upset at the fact that Lucan did not condition himself properly and you were worried about spending all this money for a guy who may be becoming injury prone because of his fact that he didn't keep his body in shape, you could go get a massive haul for him. You could find a team that said, let's do it. But for them to have this secret conversation with of all teams, the first or second most recognizable team in the association that already has the second greatest player in the history of the NBA on its team with all the champions. pitch chips. That was
Starting point is 00:33:13 that was malpractice to the umpteenth level and that's where I think really got people. Not only did you trade them, but you trade them to the Lakers and you didn't get anything close to fair market value in return. It was nowhere near in return
Starting point is 00:33:30 and for it to be okayed by the owner. It just shows you that it just comes from the top and it was just one of the worst trades in sports history for the magnitude of it was and like I said
Starting point is 00:33:47 we dealt with that, something like that with D-HOP and like I said it's nowhere near the star power as a Luca donchish but damn does that suck and you know it was kind of good we're a Rockets fan so it was good to watch the trash burn across the highway
Starting point is 00:34:03 Oh for sure. It was just bad it is just bad for the NBA and I'm still upset about it so thanks fans Thanks, Case are good to hear from you, my friend. And you know what? I'll tell you what. The DeAndre deal that shocked us,
Starting point is 00:34:19 we were blown away by it. We played the audio a thousand times. Now, Ross isn't here to tell you where it is, but we, I mean, we were literally on the air when it went down. I don't even know where it is. I mean, I wonder if it's in the personal audio of Ross is somewhere. It could be.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I'll see if I can find it because Jonathan, I don't know you, have you heard our reaction when the Texans got David Johnson for DeAndrey Hopkins? No, I think I was in Kentucky Oh, Lordy.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I wasn't even around Houston. Oh, my God. It was terrible. I'm going to try to find it. I'm going to go into his personal library. I feel like I'm going into his private collection here of audio. You know what? There's probably some things in here
Starting point is 00:35:01 that he makes fun of me of I can get rid of. Yeah, he'd look up like Matt or like, like, where's all that audio of me making fun of Matt or dumb things Matt says. I'm going to do some searching here. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-9-0. It's the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Starting point is 00:35:22 We've got gut feelings coming up at 1130 today. We have you to join us right now at 7-13-212-5-7-90. All right, Jonathan, I just sent you the Bob Barker AI video, the one of many that are out there. Oh, snap. Go ahead and give me your thoughts. Guys, if Matt tells he's going to send you a clip, just embrace it. Just be ready for it.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And again, nothing personal. It does attack everybody humanly possible. And I look like the AI like audio, the dialogue is actually pretty clean. Like, you would think. It's funny yet troubling at the same time. Does that make sense to you? It's getting scary out here. Now, I will say this.
Starting point is 00:36:07 There is one AI video of me. out there. I cannot tell you what it is because I want to protect those that are innocent to this. But I have been recorded once on AI and it sounded like me, like I kind of sound like today. I have a little bit of a cold. Yeah. But the people that did the AI, the audio of me, send it to me. And I'm like, okay, I could see why you think it's me. I can see why you think it's me on a cold, but it was definitely not me. So I was impressed. astonished and disturbed at the same time. I'll say, I'll be horrified.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Because, you know, it's funny because people do, you know, people can have voices in the way they speak that are easily to, you know, to impersonate. I don't think I've got a particularly easy voice. I'm just regular. I mean, I don't have a, I don't have a twang. I don't have any sort of dialect or staccato or anything, you know, pattern. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Like, you know, get checks at ABC Sport. You know, but that, to hear yourself on AI, but yeah, the Bob Barker AI videos, I would say I'm troubled, but that would be a lie. It feels like she'd be on an adult swim or something. That's a pretty fun. I'm not going to lie. I got me to laugh a couple times. It was, it's, it's pretty incredible. All right, 713, 212, 790.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So, Jonathan, you found the audio. This is back, this is Ross and I. And I want to give you, it was in March of 2020. So we're going back. Five plus years for our reaction to literally, this is a little long. But again, if you're an OG to the show, you've heard this a few times. But if you're new to the show, first of all, welcome. Be where the hell have you been and seen?
Starting point is 00:37:50 We don't want you to ever go away. Here's Ross and I hearing about DeAndre Hopkins going to the Arizona Cardinals. And this goes to the line of why DeAndre Hopkins name has been brought up in trade conversations. They need draft picks badly. Uh-oh. Oh, no. What are we got now? What?
Starting point is 00:38:11 What? What? What? What? What? Hit the breaking news center. What? This can't be true.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Adam Schaefter. What? No! No! No! The Texans are trading DeAndre Hopkins to the Arizona Cardinals. What? Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:33 It better be a lot of draft capital. Holy smokes. It's got to be a lot of draft capital. oh my what that's all me what that's all me what what what why i didn't mean an interrupt you there we go again we're going to hear we're going to hear laramie tonsill and deshawn watson locked up long term pretty quickly here dandre hopkins is an arizona cardinal What? Holy smokes.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I wanted to swear here so bad. I said smokes. I wanted to say something else. I don't even know what to say. Folks, we have microphones in here. There is very bad in our business. I'm stunned. I'm shocked.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Bamboozled. You better begin the entire draft class. I mean, I'm telling you, it's got to be a lot. It wasn't. What? DeAndre Hopkins in a fourth round pick go to the cards for David Johnson and a second round pick. What? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:51 This is John McLean. DeAndre Hopkins in a fourth round pick go to the cards for David Johnson and a second round pick this year and a fourth round pick next year. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it? Listen to me. Will you lose it?
Starting point is 00:40:09 Jonathan, we lose it? Yeah, hold on. That's right here, though. Go to the cards for David Johnson and a second round pick this year and a fourth round pick next year. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Listen to me. You people that continue to be supporters of the Texas. What the hell is that?
Starting point is 00:40:28 You just gave away the best receiver in football for a broken down running back and a second round pick? Line. People! Listen to me If you are something The Texan on Twitter Or you are a Texan fan for life Or you're anything with the word Texan in your avatar
Starting point is 00:40:48 What the hell? Okay, I'm going to read this again Make sure I'm not missing something on this. DeAndre Hopkins in a fourth round pick Go to the Cardinals for David Johnson And a second round pick this year And a fourth round picnic What?
Starting point is 00:41:07 All right. You get the gist of it. I didn't realize how little that trade. Good child got back. Oh, wow. Like, nothing. Wow. I'm still pissed off about it.
Starting point is 00:41:18 That's why I was ever, that's why I never, if there was ever a chance of me being a Texan fan, that was the day that was the fate of complete. That the irresponsible Texans organization led by Jack Easterby and led by Bill O'Brien and led by Cal, and led by Cal, frankly, allowed that to happen. Thankfully, mistakes were made and things were rectified. And that's what Dallas is going through right now. Second hour, the Matt Thomas show starts in a matter
Starting point is 00:41:49 moments with Ross. He's not here. It's still the Matt Thomas show with Ross, even when he's on here. 7.13-212-5-7-90. Vincent Midtown will start with you. Luca Donchich is a Laker. We've talked about that for many, many months. The general manager of the Mavericks,
Starting point is 00:42:03 Nico Williams, is... Nico Harrison, excuse me. Nico Harrison is out. fired and he was about an hour ago. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. I want to tell you right now about the incredible team
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Starting point is 00:42:51 This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. All right, I got a problem. I just sent Jonathan another TikTok video of Bob Barker. He had a contestant on wearing a Dallas Cowboy jersey. and he says look what you've won they pull up to open the curtain up it's another first round playoff loss
Starting point is 00:43:14 god i'm so immature i'm serious oh dude you you might be a man child like cole was saying yesterday i'm serious i mean god almighty i mean i'm obsessed with these bob barker aIs and now i got everybody sending me AI videos of Fred Rogers, Mr. Rogers' neighborhood. I don't know. This is, is this a good thing or a bad thing, America?
Starting point is 00:43:43 We're taking our heroes of yesteryear. May they all rest in peace. And we are creating AI videos to make people look bad. Well, to be fair, Barberka wasn't the, he doesn't have a good track record. Well, he had some issues. I mean, he slept with some of his beauties. I think one of them at least.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Diane Parkinson back in the day. Ooh, Lordy. And then he basically, he fat shamed the rest of him, and they all sued him over the years. So, yeah, far from perfect, but. Well, he's free rage. I feel like it works. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:15 So there you go. But, yeah, I'm getting, I'm getting video sent to me. I thought that was funny. The Dallas Cowboys. I got to send some coworkers now because we've got some Dallas Cowboy. We have too many Dallas Cowboy fans in our office and too many LSU fans in our office. We've got Cowboy fans here? Yeah, well.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Yeah. I know. Yeah. I mean, their offense is prolific, but they can't stop a nosebleed defensively. Can they not? Just saying. It's been like that.
Starting point is 00:44:39 All right. 11.05 on Sports Talk seminar. We have gut feelings coming up at the bottom of the hour. So, Jonathan, you're not going to have to take a more active role because Ross is not here. Now, do you write down, we have evidence of what happened last week on gut feelings?
Starting point is 00:44:51 No, Ross. And there's no chance we're going to eat. He's sleeping. I remember mine. I remember mine, oh, do you remember your age? I don't remember anything. I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, much less telling you what my.
Starting point is 00:45:00 might got feelings worse. That's why you've been sick. You've been sick. That's right. All right. 713, 212-790. 7-1-3-2-1-2-7-9-0. It is a Matt Thomas show at Ross.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And let's talk to Vince in Midtowns and patiently waiting at 1105. Vince, good morning to you. Hey, good morning, guys. Hey, some good advice that gave you on using the saline for your nose and also the heater thing, like kicking that heater on before it actually gets cold. Nice. But hey, I want on Luca, on Luca. So, I mean, I understand the fans being upset about them not getting much in return
Starting point is 00:45:35 because Harrison only, you know, talked to one team. But, man, Luca gets traded and all of a sudden he decides he wants to get in shape, you know? I mean, what kind of crap is that? I mean, he was with Dallas for how many years, and he came in Doewey all the time, played the whole season, Doeie, was always getting injured because of that. So I'd say good ridden to the guy. But that brings me to another point. I was hoping that maybe at some point in time you could pull Dengoon over one day
Starting point is 00:46:05 and tell him, don't be another Luca with the throwing up the hands every time he thinks he gets fouled and not getting back on defense. That guy's got so much talent, but he's a resource to that crap, and it's got to stop. He's got to figure that out, and I'm sure he's been talked to by the coach, but it's just like maybe you can talk to him. You want me to, hold on, let's see how this goes. Hey, Vince, or, hey, Lou, Alfie, this is your radio announcer, Matt. I've never played the NBA.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I've never played high-end basketball in my life. I was a manager when I was in junior high, and I was a mascot in high school. Could you do me a huge favor and not throw your hands up and discuss every time a foul is not called or you get hit across the face? Because it would be better for the Rockets. Thank you and goodbye. He would squash me like a grape. You understand these things, right? I understand that, but it's just frustrating.
Starting point is 00:46:59 We were at a restaurant, hey, you ready for this? We were at a restaurant at a night, and he was at the same place I was, and he was shaming me for eating a dessert. He says, you can't be eating that? I said, what are you talking about? I'm trying to get fat, and he goes, okay, that's fine. You can have it then. So he's always, he's got a design of looking out for me, so I want to make sure.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Look, that frankly, Vince, to me, and I don't mean to stereotype, but we do stereotype on this show, a lot of European players are going to do that. A lot of European players are going to throw their hands up, and you'd like for him not to do it as much because sometimes it does take the focus off of what he's supposed to do defensively. But it is also human nature. There are a lot of NBA, there are more NBA players that will raise their hands and discuss and say, oh, well, oh, golly G. Shucks, somebody hit me across the face. Let's just play and keep playing basketball. So he's not the only one that does that, by the way. Right. And I realize that. And that probably all comes
Starting point is 00:47:47 from that soccer. It does. Yeah. And that's why soccer sucks because they like to flail and call penalties that may not have been there. But to your earlier point, though, Vince, and I want to discuss this with you, yeah, he was doughy. And yeah, he was seen eating cheeseburgers and drinking beers after championship games and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I think you, I think the Mavericks just give up too early. I think you have to, if you have a player that has so much talent that he has, Vince, you have to keep working on him to find somebody or something,
Starting point is 00:48:22 thing that he can relate to because frankly when he went to los angeles and he started working with lebron in this offseason he did lose some weight he did look more toned so it was certainly within his DNA for him to do that it just wasn't happening in dallas and i don't think he was because he was lazy i just think that maybe it was the message wasn't good or he didn't have somebody to lead as an example and even though you'd say well wait a minute you're an NBA player you're making all this money the least you can do to stay in shape it's easier than done Some guys still need extra motivation. So whatever he got in Los Angeles is something he did not get in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And it doesn't make it right, but the reality is if you have a player that is a five-by-five guy that can do amazing things and shoot and rebound and assist and block shots and handle point, you have to do everything humanly possible to keep him on your team because he is a guy that you can build a franchise around. you cannot build a franchise around an Anthony Davis who is north of 30 and can never stay healthy. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I guess that. Well, hey, man, we'll get well. I've got to keep that golden voice. I'm trying. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Vince. That's why I need to get Ross back off vacation. That's why Cole's coming in and hang out with me
Starting point is 00:49:36 for a couple hours today. I appreciate that. I mean, Jonathan, right? I mean, look at clearly looks different. I don't think he's zero body fat in Los Angeles. But I think he made a very good point saying that he there probably wasn't that type of leadership or someone to push him or and I think it's
Starting point is 00:49:51 he didn't know I think it was a humbling moment for Luca as well until he got traded and realized what other people thought of him he had all this praise and does that's exactly right and I feel like that's he just his mindset switch like no I'm not like that yeah it's like you're the chosen one all throughout your life as a
Starting point is 00:50:07 junior high player and as a high school player and a college yeah he's been doing this for so long that he finally somebody kind of put him in his place and I don't think you do it the trade. Well, I think it showed the world when
Starting point is 00:50:22 they gave him that memorial when he came back when he's a Laker and he started crying and bawling on the sidelines. Like, everybody realized like, wow, like, he meant, he loved Dallas. It was the same way Dallas loved Luca. Absolutely. They loved him there. And honestly, I don't think the Dallas
Starting point is 00:50:39 Mavericks franchise will ever recover from this. As good as Cooper Flag, I think, could be. He ain't Luca. He's not. Dirk endorsed. Look, that was Dirk's guy. Like, he played. It was everybody's guy.
Starting point is 00:50:52 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, he was everybody's guy. And, um, again, their mistake, first of all, help the Lakers stay relevant, which is not fun for us, Rocket fans. But if you have Dallas hate in your heart, and many of you do, you aren't crying us, you aren't crying over this. Except for today that the Dallas Mavericks ownership group said, you know what, we finally
Starting point is 00:51:17 it must admit our mistake. And the question is going to be. be when they hold a press conference when they do win how much responsibility will the ownership take for allowing nico harrison to make that deal 1112 on the matt thomas show with ross we want you to be a part of this radio show today it's been good conversation from y'all and look forward to that continuing 713212 5790 713 212 5790 i want to talk to you guys and ladies that are boo boob tv subscribers I don't know whose fault it is.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I don't particularly care. I feel bad for y'all. And the fact they're going to make you go through a process to get your $20 rebate is insulting to you. We'll discuss more of that next. 1112 on 790. A very happy Veterans Day to all of you that have served, families as well. Thank you for doing what you're doing, giving me the opportunity to blithe about sports for four hours a day. I don't say that enough.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I should say it every day, whether it's veterans today or not. Thank you to all of you have served, including members of my family and my friends. Thank you for what you've done for this country. Thank you for giving us the peace that we enjoy today. All right, 1117 on Sports Talk 790. Speaking of peace, do we need peace between Rooobub TV and Disney? Now, I don't have, and I'll just say YouTube. I don't have YouTube TV.
Starting point is 00:52:49 uh the main reason why is because it doesn't carry uh space city home network which is the network that i watch to watch the astros games now i'm at all the rockets games so i don't really watch that but i do watch uh the astros and as and also uh i don't use web-based stuff at my house i mean the peacock and the amazon all that you have to but for my main television viewing i do have direct tv which is the satellite dish this thing is getting nastier and nastier so apparently last night on the Manning cast which is on ESPN 2
Starting point is 00:53:26 which is the same version of the Philadelphia Green Bay game but you know the Manning's host the show they had Bob Igeron who's a chairman of Disney I didn't see it because I've only watched one Manning cast before maybe two in my entire life that's what the Manning brothers right like watching it okay because part of the problem
Starting point is 00:53:46 is they're never in the same room with each other, so they're always having a disconnect? Oh, you mean like the Zoom and stuff? Yeah, the Zoom just doesn't, you know, it doesn't do anything here. So let me ask you this. You have Bob Igeron on the ESPN Manningcast. And you don't ask about the YouTube TV dispute?
Starting point is 00:54:14 Now, I don't know how. how many of you? First of all, the Philadelphia and Green Bay game last night was terrible. 10-7 was the final score. Now, my guess is unless you had a fantasy impact in the game or you had a bet was a friend of yours or you were happy to be in a betting state where you could put the
Starting point is 00:54:34 money on the game, I'm going to assume that 90% of my 95% of my audience did not watch one IOT of the game. It wasn't a must-see game. It didn't involve a direct competitor to the Texans in their playoff chase. like I watched a little bit of the Chargers game against Pittsburgh because those are two AFC teams
Starting point is 00:54:52 and how that game ended would have a somewhat an indirect result of where the Texans would be on the playoff seating. Philadelphia and Green Bay did nothing for me. My fantasy team was kicking ass by 35 points as it was. I had Dallas got her the tight-in for the Eagles going, so that's the only reason why I even gave it one out of a look. I did not go to Manningcast
Starting point is 00:55:15 and I did not, after reading the stories about what was discussed, why would he do that? Why would he go on that Manning cast and not bring up the dispute between himself his network that he owns and YouTube? I mean, so explain exactly what's going on with YouTube and Disney. So it's like they, YouTube stopped getting the Disney. the channel, like Disney stuff?
Starting point is 00:55:46 No, it's a carriage issue. It's about who's paying for what and not. And I don't know the details of it, but it comes down to fees and whatnot. And there's an argument about it. Apparently Bob Iger was at the game, is what I found what I'm looking at here. Yeah. They discussed with the head of Disney about Iger's Packers fanhood. They broke down the play-by-play strategy for each team and joked about Eli Manning's success against Iger's Panthers.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Meanwhile, you have 10 million subscribers to YouTube TV, and you don't bring it up one time. And what makes matters worse is that apparently YouTube TV is offering you a $20 credit for the service disruption. I don't know how much YouTube TV cost. Around that, like 17, probably. Well, probably, either it is or it isn't. I mean, I want to make sure we know. I can look at it on. But apparently you've got to go through this long platform of a rebate process.
Starting point is 00:56:56 As someone pointed out on Twitter, YouTube TV has zero problem. What? The standard cost for YouTube TV is $82 a month. Yeah, $82 a month and you're giving a $20 rebate, shut your bum ass up. Sometimes giving you a $10. monthly discount for six months? What the? Now, YouTube TV does have the NFL Red Zone, the direct TV, the, not red zone, it's the Sunday ticket. So if you have, if you want a Sunday ticket, because let's say you're a fan of the Steelers or the Browns or the Bengals and you want
Starting point is 00:57:31 to watch all the games, I get that. So that's, that's, that's, that's well and good. But YouTube TV has zero problem charging your credit card on a monthly basis. If they really want to wanted to offer you a $20 rebate, they should have just gone to them and said, instead of charging you $85 a month, we're going to charge you $65 next month. To make you go climb through a bunch of hurdles and jump over them, just to get $20 off, I'd be pissed. $85 for YouTube TV? That's absurd. Well, but the problem is, I mean, my direct TV bill is obnoxious. But, yeah, I guess, yeah, I mean, but that's. I probably spend $300 a month in television between my.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Now, my kids have the subscriptions, which I'm paying for because I'm just a lush. Between Hulu and Peacock and Amazon and Netflix and DirecTV that I pay for because I have like four different units and whatnot. I mean, it's probably a ginorous waste of my money, but there's other things that are wasted in my money in my house besides that. but you have Bob Iger on the CEO and the most pressing thing you're talking about is his fandom of the Green Bay Packers I look my family loves the mannings
Starting point is 00:58:55 my middle son is named Peyton for Peyton Manning I can't imagine Peyton Manning I mean he obviously had to have said we're getting Bob Iger on huh can you give us an update on the YouTube situation for it not to even be disgust that's tragic someone from like higher up tell them not to have done something like that had to have
Starting point is 00:59:20 so if I'm Peyton and I'm freaking Peyton Manning pro football Hall of Fame huge commercial endorser a huge guy that carries tremendous cachet even outside the football business I go to my people at ESPN and say man I love y'all thank you for allowing me and Eli to do this manning cast and make a boatload of money. But I can't put Bob Iger on.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And if I'm going to put Bob Iger on, I'm going to ask him about why 10 million subscribers can't get his channels. I'll be brutally honest with you. There have been probably, it doesn't happen a lot in my life. But I can probably tell you there have been four or five times in my broadcast career or I've been offered a guest that was timely that would have been interesting to you as an audience that they said, hey, you can discuss this, this, this, this, and this. But you've got to stay away from this and this and this.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Now, I don't want to bring up old bad memories of things, things in the past. And there is a fine line you can definitely draw with that. but if I was offered Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, on this radio show, I would be honored to talk to him. I mean, he's one of the all-time television grandiose executives. He runs this multi-billion dollar operation known as a Disney corporation. It's a can't-miss interview. But if they came to me and said, you can't ask about YouTube TV, I'd be doing myself and you, the audience, a massive disservice. So what are they hiding?
Starting point is 01:01:08 So it's an ugly stalemate right now. You got people pissed off. Just say we're trying. But for them not even to bring it up, man, that's, hmm. Now, again, there's a difference. Let's say I had an athlete on. And this athlete was talking about watching a particular game. And this athlete all of a sudden said,
Starting point is 01:01:31 in 19, you know, maybe in 1985, this guy got caught with possession. of marijuana I was drinking, you don't have to go back to saying, hey, let's go back to when you were a 24-year-old athlete and you got caught with a DUI-195. You don't have to do that. I understand there's a, there's a, there, not every interview is created equal. Because that, that, that bringing up that old part of that person's life does, is not tangent to what you're trying to get across today. You'd be like having Vernon Maxwell on my show and talking about how he punched the guy in Portland all those years ago. I was just thinking about that. That was 30 plus years ago. I mean, that time has healed wounds on that. But if I got Bob Eiger coming on my show
Starting point is 01:02:12 and one of the main things in the electronic media industry is that one of these huge, huge television partners can't get on because they're in a pissing match with ESPN and Disney, that's a story you have to kind of discuss. So I don't know how Peyton and Eli would handle such a thing if they were told not to. Maybe Penny and Eli said, I don't think we're going to bring it up. But do you think anybody that was watching that Manning cast last night that found out that Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, was going to be on that show that he could give two craps
Starting point is 01:02:44 about his fandom from being a Green Bay Packer fan? I don't want, you know what, if I had a chance, Bob Iger, I'd say, Bob, why are you charging people $150 to get into Disney? Let me tell you all something about Disney. I have not been to Disney, I went to Disneyland when my kids were, I think Payton, my three kids were probably junior high, and younger. You got to take out a mortgage.
Starting point is 01:03:10 You got a second mortgage in your home to pay for a Disney trip. Let me tell you. You're going to have kids someday, Jonathan. You're going to be like, man, I remember Matt telling me this. It is completely non-affordable to go. You have to legitimately create a nest egg to take your kids to go to do a Disney trip. Because the price of getting in is expensive. The food, the drink is obnoxious.
Starting point is 01:03:34 If you want to stay anywhere close. to the property it's going to cost you several thousand dollars and if you're not staying in a property and you're staying in a hotel around the area they're going to charge you because the closer you are to the park the more it's going to cost you and then you're going to pay the insane parking fees i mean i'm all for profit trust me on these things but that's what i'm being like man bab can you cut us some slack can you offer like a monday after two o'clock for like 50 bucks that people get in a reasonable amount of money and by the way what's going on with youtube tv but apparently he was more about him being a fan of the Green Bay Packers that was the main conversation piece
Starting point is 01:04:11 around having the chairman of the CEO of Disney on a manning cast last night. I mean, come on. And I guess, you know, you know, to be fair, Peyton and Eli could have said, hey, we want to have him to talk about this. And they're like, no, that's not going to happen. I don't do the interview. No, we're paying you $10 million a year. you're going to do this. Yeah, it could be like that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Could be like that. Listen up, girls and boys. They've been so appealing. Girls Russ and Matt Thomas. Yo, they got a good feeling. This is their gut feeling on the Matt Thomas show. All right, I got a problem now. I've sent Jonathan 5 TikTok Bob Barkers.
Starting point is 01:04:58 The first one so far is the funniest. I need help. I just sent you another. Really politically incorrect one. I mean, whew! Oh my gosh. So bad.
Starting point is 01:05:13 All right. Gut-filling time. Now, Jonathan, did we, did Brad apologize to me he was strong enough for him to be a lot back on the show? You accepted his apology last week. I did accept the apology.
Starting point is 01:05:23 And you said he was good. So, I mean, that's up to you. So I did accept. Now, here's the thing. Brad is in the line right now. And you know the rules. Anybody that calls, 713-212-5-7-90 with gut feelings gets on the year before Brad does.
Starting point is 01:05:38 If nobody calls, then Brad goes on the show. It's just that simple. 7-13-212-5-790, 7-1-3-21-5-7-9 with your gut feelings on sports, on life, make predictions. And again, if you've gotten them right in the past, call in and brag about them. Now, Ross did send me what we did. on the Texans game. Logan Cook, punts more with more yards.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I have to look that up. Yeah. I had the Texans winning 21 to 13. Ross had the Jaguars. Oh, the Texans winning 13 to 9. And Cam Little having the longest field goal. We got to look at that stuff there. But I think we clearly both missed on how close the game was,
Starting point is 01:06:29 how the score was going to be. Yeah, I can go to the box score. Go to the box goal. We wanted to know, Logan Cook punts more with more yards. Cam Little has the longest field goal. Texans win by eight. I was good on that one. And Ross had the Texans winning 13 to 9.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Cam Little was right. And Logan Cook was right as well. Okay. So you know what? That's why I'm the longest field goal or than more yards. Longest field goal. So that Logan Cook was wrong. We got Tommy Thompson got more.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Oh, Logan Cook is a punter. Okay. So Tommy had more yards? Yeah, Tommy had more yards. Well, that's because the team was so bad for the first three quarters. I should have thought of that. All right, 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Remember, you get in now before Brad does. And if you don't, then you'll get to hear the dulcet tones of Brad with his weekly sports predictions. 713-212-5-790. All right, first and foremost, the Rockets, and yes, I'm completely biased. It's part of my charm here on the radio program. Rockets will win the next three home games They will beat the Washington Wizards They will beat the Portland Trailblazers
Starting point is 01:07:38 And they will beat the Orlando Magic Jonathan, I tell you right now The Rockets win the next three games All this week inside Toyota Center Think about that You know? You write it down? I'm writing it down right now
Starting point is 01:07:52 You know I should write them down too That's the least I can do It's doing a radio show here So MT says Rockets win all three at home Okay You know, I had just said that about Rockets last time And we ended up choking with the Spurs
Starting point is 01:08:05 I wasn't a choke We were up 50 to what 39 and a half Before they They were up one They were up one point at the half Yeah, but sorry that It was five minutes before the second quarter ended It was 5039
Starting point is 01:08:18 Okay And then a man got like six turnovers All right You got something or you want me to go again I'm loaded here I'm loaded Just because of what you said yesterday Bo Nix takes down Mahomes this week
Starting point is 01:08:33 Oh, you got Denver Beating Kansas City? You know what it is? You are so anti my Kansas City Choice him to tell the truth yesterday. I just think their time is up. They look sloppy. But Bo Nix is not great.
Starting point is 01:08:48 But the team's... The defense is outstanding. The record doesn't lie. You ain't two just end you that bad? But who's had a harder schedule, Denver and Kansas City? No doubt Kansas City has. Denver Colts, Chargers
Starting point is 01:09:03 Cincinnati Philadelphia Jets Giants Okay Let's go check out Teeps okay
Starting point is 01:09:10 let's see I know they have Chargers at the start Philadelphia New York Giants And then they have The beat up
Starting point is 01:09:17 Baltimore Ravens Beat them up Jacksonville They lost to that Oh Lions Raiders and then the commanders Okay
Starting point is 01:09:26 So I'm kind of right And then Bill So yeah I guess yeah They had a yeah Not much, not much of a difference. All right. You're going to just, you're going to make me feel bad, aren't you? When Denver beats Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I know you are. All right. Next up, Texans beat the Titans by at least 10 points. I'm praying they do. They should. By at least 10. I'm writing that down. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Let's see here. Oh, do we want to talk about Texas, Georgia? Hmm. Hmm. I haven't thought about them yet. Oh. I don't know, man. Now, I will say, I think Georgia's going to win this by at least three. But if Archmanning does pass this up, I think he, Texas deserves to go into the playoffs regardless.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Well, I'll tell you what. If they, if I think they get in if they split between Georgia and A&M. Maybe I'm wrong because that's going to be a super quality. One of those two games is going to be a big-time quality. win for them. I enacted my face ID on my ESPN app. I don't know why I did that,
Starting point is 01:10:32 but it's taking me forever to get to it. All right, I got to it now. Let's take a look at the line. Um, wow, what is the line in this game? Let's take a look. It's, if I can get to you. It is, um,
Starting point is 01:10:50 oh, Georgia by six and a half. All right, how about this? See? I will take Texas plus. Plus the six and a half. I think it'll be a field goal game, so I'll take Texas plus six and a half. Texas plus six and a half.
Starting point is 01:11:03 That's my good feeling. You can Arc Mania's come out? Okay. I mean, Texas is good. I mean, they're not spectacular. Their defense is amazing, yeah. The defense is, and look, Arch has played better the last couple weeks
Starting point is 01:11:13 when he was not concussed. All right, so the only I got you for is Denver beating Kansas. And you got anything else? Hmm. Hmm. Uh, I think the Rockets
Starting point is 01:11:26 drop a game. I think they're going to drop Orlando. But I think they go two and one. Two and one. Rocks go two and one. I got one more for you. The Astros will not get Dillon Seas. They are the second betting favorites to get Dillan Seas.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Over who? Or under who, sorry. You know what's a good question? Let me see what the folks in Vegas say about this. And again, it's not Vegas. It's just like a website that does it. Dylan Cease's favorite team is the Atlanta Braves at 2 to 1 The Astros are 3 to 1
Starting point is 01:11:59 The Mets are 4 to 1 The Giants are 6 to 1 He's not going to the Braves No way I think they can spend some money I don't think Dylan Cis is an astro I hope I'm wrong But it's a gut feeling
Starting point is 01:12:10 That'll we give Orlando back Oh JV's coming back You can put the You can say that I'm not going to put my name on it But I'll put it as a gut feeling I think JV comes back Because look they need a number 4 or 5 starter
Starting point is 01:12:23 He likes it here in here and Houston. Jim Crane likes to play golf with him. Jim Grain likes his white belt. I mean, it's all good. It works out perfectly. All right, anything else from you before I go to the phones? Nothing good. I like those. Okay, so you got Denver beating Kansas City and the Rockets go two and one in this
Starting point is 01:12:38 homestand. All right. I'll see how you are. 713-212-5-7-0. Biscuit will be first. And then anybody else can come in at 7-13-212-5-7-9. Because after that, it's Brad, who's on a He's not a probationary situation.
Starting point is 01:12:56 He's back a lot on the show. But if he takes underhanded jabs at people or drag shots at me like he did last way, he's back to being banned. 713-212-5-7-90. All right, here we go. Your gut feelings are now welcome at 7-13-212.
Starting point is 01:13:18 5-7-90. Don't chuck on me, though. I'm trying to eat something. trying to eat something during the breaks that's not good you have a free rinse because Ross is in there taking advantage
Starting point is 01:13:30 I'm trying to eat any Ross back anybody back that's why Coles going to do the show by himself from 12 to 2 slum talk as much
Starting point is 01:13:39 as he wants to 713 212 5790 Biscuit at 1148 Biscuit what's in your gut today Cougar Matt
Starting point is 01:13:48 Cougar Matt first of all man I know you say we don't have to we make a gut feeling and it don't come through we can let it go, but I got to own up to my
Starting point is 01:13:56 not thinking the Blue Jays is going to make it a World Series. I kudos to the Blue Days, man. It was a good World Series. They almost got there. It was a game seven. It was an amazing World Series. Very highly rated. They did themselves well. And basically, everybody outside of Los Angeles rooted for them.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I mean, everybody. Yeah. It was entertaining. So, you know, hats off to them. But my prediction, Matt, I was over there on coming on Saturday. Uh-oh. Watching the game, watching the Cougars.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Man, this number four, Matt, if we had him last year, there's no doubt we would be champs now. This number four, man, this dude is, I see why Kelvin Sample's real high on him. And we have way better shooters than we've had in the past.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Mercy, the number 24 can shoot, Uzane can shoot, even the big boy can shoot. we just got a we're not as strong on the boards as we usually are but if you're making more shots you don't have to be so
Starting point is 01:15:00 I'm mad I'm telling you I'm a first round on me Matt in Indianapolis oh stop I told you I'm not going this time I can't do it I lied I lied I can't do it it hurt too much it hurt it just did
Starting point is 01:15:16 you don't miss out of us winning the championship it just hurt it hurt I'm not over it Matt, we're not going to lose this time. Are you sure? You promise? This is the best thing we've had that Sampson's had.
Starting point is 01:15:29 I'm telling you. And they're deep, man. I'm like, man, okay. Tugwood's got a little more offense, too. Like I said, you got Sharp and Uzan and... And Senac? Senac. That's the one...
Starting point is 01:15:43 Senac is the one that they got to get more involved and more into the flow. He's hitting the board, so... He's grown-ass man, too. He's 6-11 and 2-40. That's grown right there. Big boy. Man, that dude is big.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Man, he ain't no slim guy. Well, you better enjoy him because he's already projected to be a lottery pick in the NBA draft coming up. Yeah. Fleming, though, man. I'm telling you, Fleming is the key, man. Matt, Fleming is. All right.
Starting point is 01:16:09 This dude is. In Naphtown, Matt, I'm going to see. All right. I'll go. I'll go. You know I will. You know I'll be a fraud. Remember I told you all I wasn't going to compete in finish.
Starting point is 01:16:20 any football anymore. I did that. And now I got to go see my cougars play for the national championship. And by the way, Indianapolis is a good town. Damn it. I got to, all right, I'm going to book the ticket. I'll use Miles. Yeah, I just got the points. Yeah, but it's going to cause me a lot of points. I mean, I can take my wife on a trip
Starting point is 01:16:38 to Florida, on a beach community, or I can go to Indianapolis for a couple days. Just don't tell her. Don't. If y'all know my wife, don't tell her that I'm using the miles for the trip. Just don't do that. 713-212-5-790 7-1-3-212-5-7-90
Starting point is 01:16:56 Scott, River Oaks on the Matt Thomas show at Ross. Scott, what's in your gut this week? What's going on, Matt? All right, to be honest, when I copped in my car at the very end of the last segment, so I wasn't fully aware that we were doing gut feelings. However, I can turn my thought into a gut feeling because I actually do have a prediction on this.
Starting point is 01:17:12 All right. It's about the Mavericks and Nico Harrison. I do think the Mavericks now are going to gut their entire roster, besides Cooper Flag and try and tank for, you know, because this is supposed to be a very deep draft. So my gut feeling is that there's a very likely, likely chance they end up trading Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving. That's my gut feeling.
Starting point is 01:17:32 But what I really originally wanted to call on this topic about is I just, it just blows my mind how sports teams work sometimes. I mean, I guess I don't fully understand it. Like, how did they come to the decision eight, nine months ago or whatever, to let Nico Harrison trade Luca Donchitz if it wasn't something that they fully believed in. Like, I mean, Anthony Davis, and I don't agree with that he should have traded Luca Dotschitz, but at least let his plan try and work out. I know Kyrie's heard and AD's always hurt, but that was known beforehand.
Starting point is 01:18:05 So, like, how do you even let him do it if it's something you were going to pull the plug on so quickly? I mean, and like I said, I don't think it was a smart decision for them to trade Luca Dotschitz. It's just why did they let him do it in the first place? I mean, I know the owner of the Mavericks was new, and, you know, he doesn't really know what he's doing, and I've talked to a source I have that kind of works in the NBA a little bit, and he kind of said, that's what he said, that, you know, the guy was new, thinks he's an expert and didn't want to, you know, thought they knew what they were doing. But, like, even Jim Crane, you know, we have general managers in place, he has outside consultants like Reggie Jackson and Jeff Bagwell, not that always works out.
Starting point is 01:18:41 And, oh, by the way, and, Scott, think about this for a second. Oh, by the way, you can also be wrong. You can also be, I've hired Nico Harrison, me and my general manager, he's got his boots on the ground. He's running the basketball side of things. I trust him, and when he tells me that Luca is not going to be a guy that we can build around long term because of his physical conditioning, you know, and if he says that he got the best haul he possibly could, which is a flat out lie. When you deal with only one team, you can't get the best hall possible. I mean, there were probably, there was a lot of missteps in this process, and I would think this Patrick Dumont, who's the owner of the Mavericks now, Either his arrogance got in the way of this or his nativity or a combination of both,
Starting point is 01:19:23 but he has ruined his franchise. He has ruined a diehard fan base. And so the least he can do is fire Nico Harrison and say, you know what, I goofed up and we got to start from scratch. No, that's exactly right. And I saw that he said that he is owning up to the fact that this is a sunk cost and that this was a mistake, essentially. It's not that they're doing that that shocks me.
Starting point is 01:19:45 it's that it even happened in the first place. That's the part I can't wrap my mind around because, I mean, it's one thing if you did it, but if you didn't even fully believe in it in the first place to give up this quickly and acknowledge that it was a mistake, like I said, I mean, it's just, God, there's people just clicking buttons with billion-dollar toys sometimes that don't really fully understand what they're doing. But anyways, yeah, look for the Mavericks to trade Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving and Tank. And if Kyrie Irving is healthy, he's going to be, some of him will want him.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Because when he's healthy, he's a very good basketball player. He's still got a lot left in the tank. And I know that AD does too, but AD just can't stay healthy for more than about two or three games in a row. Thanks for the phone call. Appreciate it. 713-212-5-7-90. Brian, what is in your gut at 1154? Brian, good afternoon.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Or good morning. Good afternoon, MT. Real quick, I got two baseball-related ones. Sure. I think in my gut, I think Frumber Valde, winds up with the Baltimore Orioles. I think Michael Alliance needs to make a splash to save his job. They've got the money.
Starting point is 01:20:52 They've got a young team. And he would be the good, you know, stabilizing member of that pitching staff. So I think they've got money to burn. And I can totally see him winding up with the Baltimore Orioles there. Less pressure than going to New York or L.A. or whatever, where the spotlight will be magnified. And like I said, Mike Elias, he struggled the last couple of years,
Starting point is 01:21:19 so he needs to make a home run splash there. And bless he's got familiarity with Frumber. And then I think the Astros will somehow, whether it's a sign and trade or whatever to make room, although he's a free agent. I think they do wind up with Dylan Cs. I think that's who they want. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:21:39 I'll go out on the third limb. I think Justin Burlander is back with the Astros this year. Whether it should be or not, is a different story, but I think he will be. I think Jim wants them, and Jim will do what it takes to get them. Yeah, I think basically, if Jim Crane wants a player, i.e. the closer, he'll go get that player. And when guys get on Jim Crane's radar, they eventually figure out a way to make it on here. So, yeah, good stuff, Brian.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Thank you for the phone call. Last, but certainly not least. Brad, what's in your gut this morning? I think, and, man, I don't want you to get it. So I was trying to blame the money people. Don't worry about it. Move on. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Thank you. Move on. Move on to the gut feelings this week. I think relating to money, Davis Mills agent is going to breathe real nicely at the end of the year because Davis Mills is going to make a lot more money. And since he's on a one-year contract, there's going to be some. teams that are very interested and will give him, like the Jets, a chance to be their first string quarterback, a chance if he beats out whatever competition he's got. So I think he's
Starting point is 01:22:58 going to be elevated somehow, some way, money and or playing status, like starter. And then my second one is Christian Walker is gone. He's the weak apple on the infield. You can't I can't keep all of them, but I think you've got to figure out a way. He's the loose end that needs to go, because Paredes will be the first baseman. By the way, hold on, hold on, two things. Number one, what is a weak apple as compared to a strong apple? And number two, Davis Mills is under contract for the 2026 season, too. He is instead of one-year contract.
Starting point is 01:23:38 I'm looking at Spottrack right now, and it says he's on the books for $6 million for 2006. Well, then if it's I just read it too, it's a one year contract. Oh, well, I mean, if he's still here, he said, good for the Texans.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Oh, well, so, Christian Walker, and then you got a guy at one of your shows, and he's kind of a floater, but I think he deserves a lot more than what he's got. Cole, Cole should be one of the starting people on either of the
Starting point is 01:24:12 morning show or he takes Ross's place on your show Oh jeez now you want to get Ross fired Man you are savage You are savage Brad Oh man Ross is here man
Starting point is 01:24:25 Oh my God Ross thank God he's not here Ha ha ha Man I never saw a caller in my entire life Wanted people get fired and hired more than Brad does He's like our program director He's trying to be I get everybody fired
Starting point is 01:24:40 what do he call what kind of apple did he say it was uh weak apple a weak apple a weak apple what exactly it's a weak apple i'm guessing the ones is that when you take a big bite of it and it's all mushy at the very end i'm guessing or like you know cracks it just like breaks easily i don't ever had a weak apple before no i don't think i can't i will say this apple the uh like the crisp apples what they call those um the honey crisp yeah that's a damn good apple right there or the granny smith it's great no it's granny smith right no there's honey crisp too and Bernie Smith. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:11 But I think Honey Christmas is like a little bit sweeter one. That's the green ones. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No other radio show in the marketplace is going to give you Apple Talks like the Matt Thomas show at Ross does.
Starting point is 01:25:21 This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. 1206 on Sports Talk 790. Our buddy Cole Thompson is in. What up? How are you, sir? Thanks for coming in and hanging out with a couple hours. I mean, I got to give you my full review
Starting point is 01:25:39 of the McRib sandwich that was fantastic. Yeah, you don't have to do it. We already know. It's America Sandwich. Again, I'm very upset that they only bring it back every once a while. It needs to be a full-time deal. So my daughter is having her senior pictures done today. Are you getting a McRibb? And then they're going to see a girl, one of her girlfriends playing volleyball, state tournaments going on. And so it's me and the boys tonight. And we said, boys, we're going to have a Thomas family McRibb at reunion.
Starting point is 01:26:03 That's a good, you're a good father. That's how fathers bond with her boys. You know, I appreciate the fact that you're kids. kids are also so much into the bit that they realize that this is not just a little thing that their dad likes. This is an actual pastime. It's a tradition. It's good to create those traditions. Because it's easy. It's easy to not like what your dad likes. It's much, much more cooler. Oh, my dad is the warm. My daughter is anti a lot of things that I like. See, I hate golf. I suck at golf. I'm never been good. My dad is awesome at it. Yeah. And he's been trying to get me into it for 32 years. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:26:34 nope, never going to happen. I had shoulder surgery about 10 years ago and I gave it up. And I don't miss it because I don't, I enjoyed the game of golf. I just, I don't have five hours to spare. See, that's not it for me. My big problem is, why am I going to spend $85 for something I suck at and I'm not getting better at? And then I have to pay for the 20, I have to pay the $25 for the beer that I'm going to be drinking out there. And I still have to sneak it onto the course because I'm not paying the $42 for a drink that the golf car girl brings. But you don't get to meet the golf car girl though. I'm very content. I'm going to these crappy golf courses anyways, because I'm cheap.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Like, you think I'm really meeting the tens? I'm meeting the fours out there. Well, you know, two fours to equal one eight. No, that is not even, no. Do two fours equal an eight? No, if you know proper math, Matt, two fours cancel each other out, which means it's a zero.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Okay. I mean, that's kind of, maybe two four equals a six and a half. I'd say, I'd go five and a half at best. So that's if you've had a few already in your system. you know what no no you're no you're a guest all right let's get to the i was going to ask if so you're telling me if two four said get over here right now cole you'd say no no they need two zeros i also self-respect for my wife that's what i'm talking about that's why we like you let's get to the news at noon at 1208 all right nico harrison has been fired as a general manager of the
Starting point is 01:28:01 dallas mavericks we have to thank dallas maverick fan We have to thank the kid that flipped off the owner of the Dallas Mavericks who got to sit with him yesterday at the game and talk about why he's wearing a Luca Donchich jersey at a Dallas Maverick game. And he's wearing the donch's jersey wearing Laker gear. I am still the belief that new ownership is trying everything possible to make this a major league situation where they send the Mavericks out to Las Vegas. Are you the one that first thought of that? I was one of the few. I was one of the very first that brought it up with Clanton. I'm going to tell you right now, my friend, that is completely preposterous.
Starting point is 01:28:40 So you don't think in any scenario that there is a way for the Mavericks to move out of Dallas just for like, just say two years. And then like how they're talking about bringing the athletics back to Oakland in some capacity or giving Oakland a new team. You don't think that they'd bring a team to Dallas just two years later. And then rename it the Mavericks. Like they did with the Cleveland Browns. The only way I could see that happening.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Okay. And you've got to write this down because this is going to be many years, okay? The only way I see this happening is if, because I believe the Patrick Dumont, who is the owner of the Mavericks. Right. They are a huge casino family. They want to build massive casinos next to the Mavericks, whether it's in downtown Dallas or Dallas gets a new arena. Well, they moved to Arlington, just to go build it around. The only way I could see what you're saying is if, if.
Starting point is 01:29:33 casino gambling does not get ever passed in Texas. So it didn't pass the last time it was up for legislation, which was last year. Right. Which led to the rumors that they made the move to get rid of Luca to basically go full-on major league like Rachel did to sell the Cleveland Indians to Miami. This is another step in the process. So one more time, when is the next election up for this? I don't know. Probably four years.
Starting point is 01:29:57 So four years attendance drops all the way down to record lows. they don't win. Cooper Flagg eventually starts to show some promise. They ship him on out for more mediocrity. Then we see the team in the Las Vegas. Here's where your argument is flawed. Okay. The NBA will not allow that to happen.
Starting point is 01:30:14 The NBA will tell the DMAVACs will be, the DMAVILA will be told you must sell the team. We're not letting you move the Mavericks to Las Vegas. Now, if you want to own a team in Las Vegas, that's different. Well, eventually there's going to be a team in Las Vegas. There eventually is, but we've been talking about that for 10 years now. I think, and again, this is where my brain goes immediately. You're right about the NBA not allowing Dallas to be so mediocre that they can move to Las Vegas. And the reason I believe that is because the collusion that we saw with Luca going to Los Angeles to get a star out there and who gets the number one overall pick.
Starting point is 01:30:53 I'm sorry, like there's no way that you can convince me that a major market like Dallas that has four professional sports teams that trade. to wait its best asset that still has veterans like Clay Thompson, that still has guys like Kyrie Irving. It's a top 10 media market. They're not leaving Dallas. But you're telling me that for one second that there didn't have any role, the luck of the draw said that Dallas gets
Starting point is 01:31:14 Cooper Flack. Yes. The luck of the draw. Yes. No, there are too many there are too many different stopping points to say this is not rigged. Now was there a frozen envelope for Patrick Ewing? I believe there was. But that was also 19.
Starting point is 01:31:30 What about 2004? When LeBron James went back home to Cleveland? No. So you think that that was just random chance that the kid from Akron stays home? Yeah. But he didn't stay there forever. He left. Yeah, he left.
Starting point is 01:31:42 So he can leave. So if there was a conspiracy against Cleveland keeping LeBron, they would have figured out a way to make sure LeBron never would have Cleveland. But Cleveland's out of major market. That's the difference. It's a solid market. It's a very prominent market, but it's not the same level as Dallas. Dallas.
Starting point is 01:31:55 That's why I think Dallas got Cooper Flagg versus get the number two pick with San Antonio. I'm put my name on it. Dallas, St. St. Louis, losing the Mavericks. Period of the story. I don't think that they will lose the Mavericks. I think the Mavericks will eventually move to Las Vegas with current ownership with Dumont, and they'll put a new team in Dallas to rename them the Mavericks.
Starting point is 01:32:12 And some other owner will be there. You are way overthinking this. I'm not overthinking this. You are. The Dumot family is doing everything possible to make it clear that right now they need gambling in Texas. If they don't get gambling in Texas, they'll sell. So you think they'll sell and they'll get a team out in Las Vegas. Correct.
Starting point is 01:32:29 I'm not even saying that's a possible likelihood. I'm just saying that they're not, the Dumont family is not scooping up what is currently the Dallas Mavericks, led by Cooper Flag. Right. For her now. To be a Las Vegas Maverick. That's not happening. Well, it wouldn't be the Las Vegas Mavericks or something like that.
Starting point is 01:32:47 All right. Monday football last night, Philadelphia beat the Green Bay Packers 10 to 7. Bob Iger was a guest on the Manning cast last night, and he is the CEO of Disney and was not asked anything at all. about the current impasse between YouTube TV and Disney. They got told that you can't ask the question. Correct. And I would think the mannings would be like, man, do you know who we are? They asked about his fan for being a Green Bay Packer fan.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Shut up. Who cares? Well, for starters, Bob Iger, you're not from Green Bay. Where does this BS of you being up? That happens all the time. We got people that are Steeler fans that have been to Pittsburgh before in their life. So trust me. And on the, what else we got going on?
Starting point is 01:33:29 I mentioned that. Rockets off today. Texas, six and a half point underdogs at Georgia. Yep. South Carolina, three touchdown dog at home to A&M. Speaking of which, college football
Starting point is 01:33:41 playoff selection show tonight at 6 p.m. And will A&M go over Indiana? They should. Should they and will they are two different things? Let me explain. Because eventually the college football playoff committee is going to look at the scenario of will Indiana and Texas A&M
Starting point is 01:33:59 Both could lose a game in the conference championship. If the other team doesn't lose, they're moving up to number two. So at some point, we might as well just put Texas A&M at number two to where if they went out, they've already got the spot. So I think A&M tonight, after what they did dismantling Mizzou on the road, three straight road games. Top 25 teams, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:20 I think the Texas A&M comes in at number two. I think Indiana goes to three. All right. You're calling your shot. I'm calling my shot. A little gut feeling there. We'll see if you're right tomorrow. All right, 1215 on Sports Talk 790, 713-212-5-790, 7-1-3-212-5-79.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I brought this up in the 10 o'clock hour. We'll see what Cole has said about this. Can you think of many times in the world of sports that a fan base has been so helpful in getting a front office guy fired? We'll discuss that next. 1215, Sports Talk 790. Cole Thompson filling in for Ross for the between now and two o'clock. He'll be then producing the A-Team for 2 o'clock until 6. Rockets back in action tomorrow against the Washington Wizards.
Starting point is 01:35:13 All right. So I brought up the show. We talked about Dallas open up the segment, and I don't do that very often because, again, we're a Houston show, but there's nothing really Houston related to it. Well, when you can go ahead and crap on Dallas, bring it up all the time. Yeah, it's easy. It's the lowest hanging for anyone.
Starting point is 01:35:25 They deserve it. They deserve it. They deserve it right now. The Rangers were a hot mess this past year. The Cowboys will not make the playoffs for the umpteen team year in a row. I don't even know if the stars are any good. They're fine. But SMU football is probably the most blissful thing they've gotten right now in the Metroplex.
Starting point is 01:35:41 North Texas, if you include debt as part of that. Probably a little bit. A little bit, yeah. They're still on the hunt for their conference championship. I went to the Mean Green for my freshman year in high school college. You are a Mean Green. I liked it. I enjoyed my time there.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Great Broadcasting School. It is. Um, that was actually one of my runner-up schools before I went to Craig Way, the voice of Longhorns in our Texas guy. Okay, so, um, the Mavericks get rid of the general manager. The kid, if you didn't see this, and you'll see the video or the photo, is an 18-year-old freshman in SMU. And apparently at a previous game, I think as I'm reading this correctly, he middle-fingered
Starting point is 01:36:19 the owner of the Mavericks. It meant any, I don't know if he middle-fingered him last night before the, during the game before. And then brought him into the box. afterwards whatever but but the dads of this 18 year old SMU freshman said hey go over there and apologize for middle finger because the guy saw him dumont saw him do yeah dumont watched him so what did dumont do he said come sit with me for a while and dumont was talking to this kid for much of the game last in which the mavericks led for about 90% of the game but the bucks came back and won it yeah and basically
Starting point is 01:36:51 said uh we made a mistake i'm embarrassed we shouldn't have done this and we're going to rectify this because he got the fan base back. I mean, he told all this stuff. And so the kid went to the media and said, yeah, I talked to DeMont and it's what he said. And then 9.30 this morning, the work got traveled out there that he was firing Nico Harrison. At 10 a.m. in the tweet. Like, how big of a slap in the face is that to put the exact time that you know you're going to get fired? I'm curious if, and this is the human side of everything.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I wonder if Nico Harrison is a good person that just made a terrible, terrible mistake, or is he this cocky, no at all. I know more about my team than you do, even though you're my star. So you're wondering if he is more Gary Kubiak or Bill O'Brien? Because when Bill O'Brien got fired, I didn't shed a tear. Nobody did. And so the reality, when Bill O'Brien eventually gets fired at Boston College because they're going to win one game this year, I will not shed a tear for him because he's a jerk.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Exactly. I mean, he just is, and I don't mind when jerks get fired. Is Nico, now, there is videos out there. This is one I saw yesterday. Nico Harrison's at a restaurant. And this guy walks up to him and says, are you Nico Harrison? And he goes, yeah. And he goes, F you.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I mean, just basically just announces how awful he is. While Nico's at a restaurant trying to have dinner or whatever. Just trying to enjoy his night. People are openly looking at him to find reasons to go ahead and calm out. Because let's be, let's dumb this down to a human level here. every one of us have made terrible decisions about something in our life i mean i can't imagine i've looked at my entire life that every decision i ever made was the best one i mean i can look back to last week i've made probably five or six bad decisions okay so and you could have people that
Starting point is 01:38:38 you've worked with that have been bad business managers bad leaders maybe an accountant that took money out the top and skim the books you could have a person and it's a general manager of a company that fired a or maybe your owner of a restaurant you fired your top chef and you and you have to pay the price for those mistakes you made. Sure. Nobody is immune to making some sort of tactical error with their professions. Did Nico do this? Or is Nico just a smug?
Starting point is 01:39:06 I know better. Trust me, this will work out for us. Because the fire Nico stuff, it never stopped. It has not stopped since the moment that Luca was traded from Dallas. And it got louder and louder. And it got so loud and so loud. abusive that Nico had to create a special pathway from his scene at American Airlines Center. They constructed a special pathway so he could go down to it back in the locker room area
Starting point is 01:39:33 without any public interaction whatsoever. People are coming to find him. Okay, here's why either way I don't feel bad. Okay. For starters, he's getting paid a lot of money not to work anymore. It's only one of 30 jobs. You've got to be good at your job. So, but he's getting paid a lot of money to be out of that one of 30 jobs. Right. So he'll make money to no longer be employed. Two, I don't entirely believe that this was all on Nico Harrison. I don't. I am one of the proponents that believe that the Dumont family made it clear because of the gambling rule was not passed. Fine.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Let's go ahead and show the state and let's show the NBA. We mean business about not contending. You really are touching this door. Really? I am full on. You're following your sword on this. I am full on ACOJ love for this story. I fully believe that they are trying to straight up major league it.
Starting point is 01:40:23 I do. So I believe that Dumont made it clear he was going to be gone. Now, Nico, as the general manager, could do one of two things. He could either, A, nix the trade, and realize, I know that my job and my integrity and my image will be forever tarnished if I make this move. But at least I know that I'm not the one making the move. Or my legacy is tarnished and they're paying me a crap ton of money to make sure that I never work again. And I'm content with it. So I believe that.
Starting point is 01:40:52 But the third thing is, Matt Thomas, name me five players that you would trade anything for with Luca Dantzic. He's untouchable. You were never winning that trade. Let me give you the flawed philosophy
Starting point is 01:41:09 without going to that we're trying to major league the team. I love being. Here it is. He's due for a Supermax. we've asked him multiple times over multiple years to get into better shape. There are a history of players that don't keep themselves in pristine physical condition start to break down. And I don't want to have to cut a check to a player, who I love, who can score, who can rebound, who can block shots, who can ball distribute as a point guard.
Starting point is 01:41:40 I don't want to pay a guy $75 million a year when he's only playing for me 50 games a year because he can't stay in shape. And I went to my boss, this is Nico Harrison to the owner of the team, Patrick Dumont, and saying, I think I can spend that money in getting three or four players who will stay in shape, who will follow our rules, who will do it, and we can go get a haul from another team, and we can still contend, and we can still have some free agent flexibility, and we don't have to worry about a guy who is going to consistently be 10 to 15 pounds overweight, not keeping some physical condition and the guys that are
Starting point is 01:42:20 doughy it's not out of the question they can stay healthy but chances are when you're doy you're going to run into some injuries and that's why I think Dumont said all right go get us the best deal and I think Dumont
Starting point is 01:42:34 did not check with Harrison to say have you crossed all the T's and dotted all the eyes did you call as many teams as possible I don't think he did I think he fell in love with the name Anthony Davis. I think he fell in the love with draft picks. I think he fell in the love of the fact that Max Christie was a young star that just needed a better place to go.
Starting point is 01:42:56 He didn't do his due diligence. Dumont turned a blind eye to this and said I, in general manager, I trust. There are numerous philosophical problems for what the Dallas Mavericks did to do this. But I don't think it has to do with, I can't get a casino, I'm out. I think it was, I don't want to pay a guy $75 million a year. And he set him being injury prone in the last next five or six years of his NBA career. So the reason I will push back is one major thing. You said don't want a deal with the guy who could be injury prone for the rest of his career on a $75 million deal, correct? Yeah. Who was the name that was traded back in the deal for Luca Donchich? Because I think that. And you're telling me that the injuries that what we have seen, the second
Starting point is 01:43:38 he touched down, he had one great game. Half game. Half game. Yeah. Mid, what was it? Two minutes into the third quarter, he gets hurt. And then we're right back to square one Being a mediocre franchise I mean like that's where That's because that's where mistake took place Well he was afraid that if rumors got out That Luke was being traded
Starting point is 01:44:00 That I was going to create the firestorm Which it ultimately did Right, did the second that it went live on Twitter It's what they should have done Is that if we're moving him We're going to get a deal we can't refuse That was the deal that could have refused We get more on this. Come back
Starting point is 01:44:14 1230 on the Matt Thomas show with Ross Cole Thompson is filling in. We've got to get to some LSU talk because you are big on the SEC. This situation involving Brian Kelly in his contract situation, I don't think LSU is going to win this. I think they're going to have to want to paying out. That's my guess on that. We'll get to that.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Plus, something I have not brought up on the show today, we'll get to Cole's thoughts on. Did the Sunday Texans win really get people juices flowing for this team, maybe making the playoffs after all? We'll discuss that too. A lot to get to between now and 2 o'clock. Believe it or not today, all things about veterans. Day, 713-212-5-7-9.
Starting point is 01:44:58 All right, last point about the Mavericks. Again, I believe in some conspiracies. I'm not conspiracy-free. That one about them ditching a franchise because gambling is not a part of Texas yet is you can't be the Dumont family and think you could all of a sudden buy. a franchise less than five years ago and think you're going to turn around a rule in the state of Texas that's been around for decades. That's just ridiculous. So you don't think that because of how much especially the city of Dallas loves its sports teams, they could not find a way to change
Starting point is 01:45:31 any bit of legislation to eventually allow gambling legal in the state. It's going to eventually happen, but it won't be at the sacrifice of the Dallas Mavericks. Can I implore you on the NBA realizing that LeBron James is going to be eventually out of stardom and in retirement, they needed a new face out in Los Angeles. And they called Nico Harrison and made this trade. That way they were guaranteed the number one overall. Nope. So you can't be, you can't be bond to that.
Starting point is 01:45:55 No, because what I can do is I can say I'm about to trade one of the top three stars in this league. Right. I don't want the world to know this. Who do I trust? Who can I trust in the NBA that can give me fair market value? I'll call my buddy Rob Polinka, the general manager of the linkers. Who's going through a buyout himself with ownership? No. There's, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's too much on the line. There's too much on the line to all of a sudden say that Adam Silver was intimately involved in this. And if he was intimately involved with this, then we can just shut the league down. Because we can, because we're already going through issues with gambling and whatnot and people throwing games. We might as well just, because it will just show you how incredibly corrupt everything is and we should stop following. So I choose, and I'm not a blind to a lot of things. I may want to some things.
Starting point is 01:46:46 but I'm not blind to this. I can't imagine Adam Silver or anybody in the league office saying, hey, you want to get rid of Luca, Wiscoll put him somewhere that makes us happy. He doesn't, he wouldn't do us any good in Charlotte. He wouldn't do us any good in Milwaukee. He wouldn't do us any good in Orlando. Lakers makes a lot of sense. I choose not to believe it.
Starting point is 01:47:05 See, to me, that's the only thing that is why I believe it. Because if he could have gone anywhere, let's say Chicago, they want to finally get a big time star, first one since Derek Rose, would have made a lot of sense. they're not popular anymore. The Bulls have fallen off the face of earth. They're the third most profitable team in the city. Los Angeles, the Lakers,
Starting point is 01:47:22 are the most profitable team still currently in Los Angeles outside the Dodgers. And the Dodgers only finally got back to the standpoint because they bought themselves back-to-back World Series championships. So I see the point. I get it. I still personally believe
Starting point is 01:47:37 that we are seeing Major League unfold out in American Airlines Arena. I will die on that take. Okay. Well, good, because I'm going to chase you down for the many many years after that. I say when I'm on my deathbed, I will be proven right and then I will meet you down the seventh layer
Starting point is 01:47:51 of health. All right. Seventh one, three, two one, two, five, seven, ninety. It goes to a bigger question. Are we just full of conspiracies now? Yeah. Because look, we're being tested right now as a sports society. We're being tested by some of the strange things that have happened.
Starting point is 01:48:08 We are being tested by the fact that people are throwing games in variety of sports, college basketball, pro baseball, pro basketball. So I could see the cynic in people going, you know, there's a lot of things that are shady going on. Can I just bring this up to you as a individual on Veterans Day where we celebrate America and all the people who have been kind enough to lay down their life for us? Please. We were founded on a conspiracy theory. The British didn't know that we were going to separate from them when we were colonies. That's what America is. It's been consistent.
Starting point is 01:48:42 conspiracies since the very get-go. We hid in closets, enclosed doors, and close quarters to be able to find a society that allowed us to create the Declaration of Independence. This has been going on since 1775, Matt, Thomas. All right, let me ask you this. I've not been in college in a while.
Starting point is 01:48:58 John, you were in college. Is he telling the truth, or is he making this stuff up? About U.S. history? Yeah. No, that's fairly accurate, actually. Bingo! Okay. I'm going to test you both.
Starting point is 01:49:10 See if you guys took your pre-construction class. all right let's get to some more conspiracies uh you do like college football you do love the SEC oh do I you are an Alabama honk um I try to let that be the last of my things known but yeah sure yeah we have an LSU honk in our building we actually have several LSU honks so apparently LSU can't agree to a buyout with uh Brian Kelly right Brian Kelly was offered two different amounts not of the full I believe it's a 54 million dollars 53 million dollars uh and Brian Kelly has said, look, I'm not going to talk to you about this until you cut me to check for $53 million.
Starting point is 01:49:47 I think $1.00 value was $30. I think one was a little bit less than that. They were roughly about $18 to $20 million less than what he was supposed to get paid. So he's like, shut your bum ass up. You fired me. They're trying now, LSU's trying to fire the him for cause. The cause is you didn't think he won enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:05 That's not a reason why you don't pay out the contract. I mean, I don't need to dumb it down here, but tell me where LSU is going to not have to pay the full 53. Basically what the ruling is from my understanding because Scott Woodward was the one to make the move to let go with Brian Kelly and then Scott Woodward was fired in the process following by
Starting point is 01:50:24 Jeff Landry, the governor who currently sounds like Farmer Fran from the Waterboy they don't believe that Brian Kelly was properly fired because of Scott Woodward didn't have the authority to fire him. So since there is not an authority of him to be able to fire him, this is where
Starting point is 01:50:40 we get back to the well if you're firing me, you have to fire me with the full out, buyout clause of the $53 million. Well, if he's not properly fired, then he should have been inherited his job back. That's right. No, my first thing was is that, okay, well, if Brian Kelly wasn't properly fired
Starting point is 01:50:54 by LSU and the right people didn't actually write the check, then how about you show up in the building on Monday morning and say, all right, let's get prepared for Arkansas. Because technically I'm out fired. Because if you say that I am not out of a job and I wasn't properly fired, then I should be able to come right
Starting point is 01:51:10 back in. My key card should be able to scan right the door and I should be able to get ready for the Arkansas game. Now, I don't deal in employment law, but if I'm the employee that has been told to leave, I don't care if the logistics are proper on this, if the procedures are probably, if you've told me to leave and I have a contract that says that I'm paid out this money, whether I'm working the job or not, that's on you to properly fire me. Or that's on you to properly replace me. No, that's on you to properly give me my money and figure out what you want to do with the next person to come on in. It's 100% factual. Like, listen, Brian Kelly was never a guy
Starting point is 01:51:42 who bought into the culture of Louisiana never wanted to do things the way that have been done underneath Nick Sabin and Ed Orgeron and Les Miles, all of which who won national titles. And that's fine. You don't want to do it their way? So be it. But you are firing him
Starting point is 01:51:58 because if he didn't win enough games to your standard. That's fine. Hit reset. You're also hitting reset after paying him the $53 million that he is owed because if you said we cannot stomach looking at you anymore. We cannot stomach seeing you waste time and opportunities and resources. We have got to fix this before it gets too far out of control.
Starting point is 01:52:18 And to fix a problem, you got to pay a lot of money. You have to pay $53 million because if you realize you sucked at hiring the due to begin with, that's on you. That's not on him. It is completely on LSU and obviously paying him $30 million and as compared to paying $53. That makes a huge difference because you're going to probably take that money that you would have spent towards him. and put it towards your new coach. That's the problem, is that right now,
Starting point is 01:52:42 it limits your resources to be able to go out. So, perfect example. Lane Kiffin, name that everyone wants to target toward LSU. I get it. Makes a lot of sense. Lane Kiffin has been one of the top coaches in college football last three years, being able to win out in a place like Ole Miss. Lane Kiffon's going to get paid $15 million by somebody this off season.
Starting point is 01:53:01 Ole Miss, Florida, LSU. Well, Ole Miss has $15 million to pay Lane Kiffin. Florida has $15 million to pay Lane Kiffin. You want to who doesn't have $15 million to pay Lane Kiffin if they have to pay $53 million to the former coach and all of his staff that no longer is employed? LSU. So why the hell are you not trying to come up with a proper buyout
Starting point is 01:53:22 to be able to afford the guy that you want to come on into your building and fix this ship? Because now you're stuck with who? Eric Morris? And I love me some Eric Morris from UNT. I really do. But he's costing you $7 million at most. He's not costing you $15 like Lane is. And you're settling for that option.
Starting point is 01:53:37 By the way, Lane's saying, Elish, an old myth. He's saying 100% he's saying to Ole Miss. And I hate that because of I said and I have to eat crow and look like a dumbass. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, yeah. Nobody would turn down LSU. Langevin 100 is turning down LSU. He's staying at Ole Miss.
Starting point is 01:53:53 When Ole Miss comes the table and gives him the money, he's not moving. He's got a good thing going there. Now, LSU is still a great job. Let's hide this, but money could become an issue. Think about this for a second. Every program that got to the level of success that it has been at had to make sure that they paid for the right coach to turn. the program around. Look at Alabama,
Starting point is 01:54:11 look at Texas, look at Oklahoma, USC, Georgia. All of them prominent jobs, all of them are willing to pay for the right coach. Ole Miss could be the next Alabama simply by paying to keep Lane Kiff and happy. And also, he's really happy on Oxford. And oh, by the way, paying multi-millions of dollars for your coordinators
Starting point is 01:54:27 too. These coordinator contracts are getting insane. Have you seen? I didn't realize this. Do you know how much both Charlie Wise, Jr. and Pete Goldinger are getting paid? Tell them who they are. They're their offensive and defense coordinator for Olex. They're over $2 million. They're the highest paid coordinators in the SEC. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Yeah, being in charge of half the team, not terrible. 1244 on the Matt Thomas Show at Ross, 713-212-5-790, 7-1-3-212-5-790. If you want to get it on the LSU side of thing, I know we got some Tiger fans bumping around. I mean, I don't see how you're going to not have to pay out the full dollars. I just can't, I don't know, unless he did something that they're hiding that can cause for termination. but he was fired not because he was a jerk
Starting point is 01:55:10 he was fired because he didn't win enough games and if you don't like the guy that's one thing but the contract stipulates he is to coach the football team and if you decided you want to go in a different direction he's not winning enough then he wants that check and he probably wants it in one lump sum too
Starting point is 01:55:24 and I would not complain any other way to have it especially because you're the dumbasses who hired him to begin with now you're the dumbasses who have to fire him and give him the money 713-212-5-790 7-1-3-2-1-790 in 15 minutes So we're going to discuss, did the Texans win against the Jaguars? Get your fuel going again for the Texans making the playoffs. All right, 1252, it is a Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Cole Thompson hanging out with me today until 2 o'clock. Thank you for doing that. Appreciate that. Cole will be busy coming up in the next handful of weeks here on the radio station. Look forward to seeing how that moves along. We got Rockets basketball coming up tomorrow against the Washington Wizards. We have Nico Harrison out as a general manager of the Mavericks. It's funny, they just hired yesterday a chief communications officer.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Her name is Gina Miller. She was with Dallas FC, wasn't she? Yes. I went to college with her. Really? And she was also an intern with the Rockets when the Rockets won, I believe, their second NBA championship. And I was the PA announcer. don't take this the wrong way but you're going to have to take it the wrong way i thought she was
Starting point is 01:56:39 my age no she's my age that's a that again that says way more about you than it does about her i don't think it says anything about me or him or her her i say him no uh gina has uh we went to school together you of age you of eight we were in at least two classes together she's got a radio tv background she was a sports anchor in dallas for a while l a while for a while And then she started working on the team side with FC Dallas and she's done some other things. And then they just literally hired her. And my guess is they said, come in here and fix this mess. I mean, all this stuff with Nico Harrison just didn't pop up yesterday.
Starting point is 01:57:18 There was talk about this probably for several weeks. Oh, I mean, I had heard that he was on thin ice for a while. But, you know, it's funny that, hey, the day that she gets hired, that's his last day there. It's like, can you imagine a worst first day to be able to come and join the franchise if you had no idea that was going on? Yeah. So let's localize this a little bit. Let's talk about what we had to go through in terms of craziness. I think when Jack Easterby was running operations here. So Pastor Jack. The people of Houston did not hide the fact from Hannah and Cal that mainly Cal because Hannah really wasn't involved too much at the time that you got to get this jabroney out of here.
Starting point is 01:57:55 He was literally a snake oil salesman, probably so to this day. And there's a reason why that he doesn't have a real job anymore because the reputation is out. He was a bad person and got people fired and quit and all the sorts of things. He was just a bad dude and bad dude shouldn't get second opportunities. Nobody liked him. Nobody wanted to be around him. Nobody thought he was good at his job. And he's thus not been in any sort of NFL front offices since then. No surprise on that.
Starting point is 01:58:18 I think he's been in like a college as a chaplain. I think that's the most of that. I want to associate, yeah, I don't know who was with, but yeah, college chaplain, that's it. But he'll never be, he'll never get into a front office of an NFL team again because he's a snake. completely fair when you pitch the idea of hiring Josh McCown as your next head coach automatically that should disqualify you from ever working in front office again yeah he wanted people around that he could pull their strings right
Starting point is 01:58:42 he wanted to have full control of everything and then when somebody fought back they were no longer seen again so wisely Hannah said look um when I go shopping I don't want to be made fun of when I go to my lunches at needless markup I want to make sure that the The servers aren't like, man, you are, this Texan team, I used to be a fan, but y'all suck. So she came, first of all, they probably hired a PR for him, we'll never know this, and said, what's wrong with our organization?
Starting point is 01:59:12 We're not winning, which is number one. Paramount, everything starts with winning. Right. Jerry Jones would be an 82-year-old old, old funny, funny coot if he was winning. But he's 82 years old and losing, and they're not going to the playoffs. And they're losing because of him. Right. But still, neither here nor they are.
Starting point is 01:59:26 But if you win, you get past the corkiness. Because it solves everything. Yeah. Like, Cal is lovable. when you won all these AFC-style championships. But he's Tommy Boy, when you lose and you go 40-13. Correct. Correct. So the first thing is they probably hired a PR firm and said,
Starting point is 01:59:40 hey, you've got to get rid of Easterbrae, which they did. You have to go get a real gender manager and you got to fire your coach in what they did. So check, check, check, check, all the box is check. Next thing you've got to do is you got to make sure Cal doesn't speak unless you're right next to him. And it works out well. And, frankly, she's more of the face of the franchise than Cal is. So everything from a PR standpoint, they listened to and got it right. And maybe that's what's going to have to happen in Dallas here, is they're going to say, look, we have taken such a PR hit.
Starting point is 02:00:08 When you have 17, 18, 19,000 people screaming fire Nico at multiple games, that's when you sometimes have to listen to the fans. Now, I said this before in the 10 o'clock hour, you don't always want to listen to fans because every single time something goes wrong, they want them people fired it. I mean, they didn't want a Joe Aspired fired multiple times. They want to AJ Hinch fire multiple times. There's been people saying fire D'Amico. Not a lot, but there have been a few. No, but again, I don't want to let a small minority do it, but remember, if you listen, but this was, this was 19,000 people at games. Right.
Starting point is 02:00:44 This was people standing outside the arenas that were burning jerseys that were putting up signs. It was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, not a calculator, it was a, it was a rigorous daily occurrence. And sometimes you got to listen to the fans. And in this particular case, Dallas did so. Can I tell you that bullying does work? because of, I'll bring this to the college football landscape of things. Who was the coach that was hired before Mike Elko came to town? Mark Stoops at Kentucky.
Starting point is 02:01:12 And everyone got on the Tex-Ags and everyone got on the message boards. And they said, nope, hell no, we will Greg Shiano, the crap out of this to Tennessee if we have to. We are not allowing our franchise to go from bumbling Jimbo Fisher, the snake oil salesman to Mark Stoops. They said, nope. They called Mike Elko, who was always the frontrun for the job. comes on in two years later than in the college football playoff. Ladies and gentlemen, the one thing that I can teach you in these two hours
Starting point is 02:01:38 that I am sitting in as Ross Villarreal's counterpart, bullying does work. Especially in the college ranks because if you bully and you have a checkbook, they'll listen to you. They will 100% listen to you. If you are on a fan message board, they won't. Now, if you're on both, then you're really in a good spot. I say, now when you have a good fan base
Starting point is 02:02:00 that is very much openly telling to the people who own message board propaganda, which is at a place like Texas A&M and a place like Bama and a place like Texas, the major schools. When you listen to them and you have the checkbook, you 90% of the time find a way to get this one right. And Texas A&M got this one right. Yeah, because what the alums do is the AD will call the alum say, hey, we're about to hire this person.
Starting point is 02:02:24 And they're like, I'm not into this guy. Don't call me for money. Hey, hey, here's that $12 million. I'm about to hit send to, hire him. Watch what happens. Yeah. That was it. That's also dangerous, too, that allowing alums with big pocketbooks determine who you really
Starting point is 02:02:39 want to hire. Yeah, because if you allow one person to make that higher, then you turn to Auburn. Yeah. All right, 1259, it is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Cole's going to be in front of their hour. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-790 if you want to come in on the conversation. I want to ask you all a question.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Did the Texans victory over the Jaguar, on Sunday give you greater hope that this team could make the playoffs. And look, I'm going to Texans fan blogs and websites that are
Starting point is 02:03:10 giving them this to me, but it can't be just those one or two dweeps. It's got to be the other folks are doing the exact same thing. Plus, we do have a live report. We want to play for me, not live, but a report
Starting point is 02:03:19 from a Jacksonville TV station. They have damn lost their mind. They still can't get over what they saw from their team on Sunday. We'll play that for you coming up. 713-212-5-790. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. All right, my buddy, Cole Thompson is in for this hour.
Starting point is 02:03:39 We've got, believe it or not, coming up at 150. All things about Veterans Day and all things about our military. And shout out to all of us, all of you that have served this great country of ours. Thank you very much for allowing Cole and myself to babble about sports for four or five hours a day. Yeah, I appreciate you guys. That way, I don't have to be on the front lines. And ladies, too. And ladies, too.
Starting point is 02:03:58 And ladies, anybody out there that's willing to. down their life so I can go ahead and talk about nonsensical stuff. Correct. Let me people pay me. That allows us to go to Jacksonville TV station. I played some soundbite yesterday of how the media there lost their mind over the game. I always loved the man on the street
Starting point is 02:04:14 stories. Yes. So I found one yesterday from Jacksonville TV station. It doesn't really matter what station it was, but it was legit. It was like a, you know, they call what they call it, man on the streets where the reporter says, hey, I'm here at this bar, and everybody's having a good time, and we had a chance to catch up with fans. So,
Starting point is 02:04:30 Just to give you a perspective of how bat-blank crazy Jacksonville was Sunday. Here is the, just a sample of what we had from a local TV station, Jacksonville, after the Jaguars lost that fourth quarter lead to the Texans. A huge upset, maybe the biggest ever, is the Jags blow it. What some are telling me is the worst loss in franchise history. The team was up 19 points in the fourth quarter and somehow still let it slip away with the Texans beating the Jags 36 to 29. News for Jack's reporter Sophia Vitella joins us outside Everbank Stadium where a watch party just wrapped up. Sophia, how disappointed are these fans? Hey, Scott, good evening, but is the evening actually good after what we just saw?
Starting point is 02:05:15 I'm just not so sure. They're calling this one of the most unbelievable losses in Jaguar history. I'm going to try and tell you what it looked like and sounded like in this watch party. You know, we were really excited. The Jags were winning by nearly 20 points. They had this big lead. So people were screaming, they were cheering, even dancing, so excited to see what they thought would be a huge win for the Jags.
Starting point is 02:05:40 But in the last minutes, seconds of the game, everything changed, guys, as you know. So all of the people in there, their smiles quickly faded into gasps and anger. There was one guy in a Jags costume that ripped off pieces of his costume and was thrown. It's going it across the room. Other people were rolling on the ground, wailing, screaming, crying. We also had profanities, of course, flying across the room. A very, very frustrating time for these Jags fans who tell me, we could have won this one. They really are so shocked. But I don't want to just tell you, I want you to see the frustration for yourself. Take a listen to this. We were rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. We could have got a field call. We didn't get the field goal. And they let the Texans beat us. And they're three and five. Can you tell us how the three, two and five, three and five, Texas beat us? So you're...
Starting point is 02:06:34 Website guy adds, hold on. You get some more. You're going to go to the ads. I'm so mad. And it looks like they were winning. And we were going to win. We had it. I'm pissed.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Very bad. We should have kept running the ball. We should have kept running the ball. When we had a lead, won the ball. Oh, my God. All right. That is Jacksonville. TV. Are you sure that's not the
Starting point is 02:06:59 inside of a daycare somewhere? Okay. Look, it was a terrible loss. Yeah. I mean, one of the worst ever, maybe the worst regular season setback in Jaguar's history. Not that I'm a historian about Jaguar football. I mean, trust
Starting point is 02:07:13 me, it is one of their, it's their second worst collapse in franchise history. But there's some playoffs. Are they? I mean, yes, I know what you're saying. They are in the playoffs. I got this.
Starting point is 02:07:29 They're in the playoffs because technically they have the head-to-head over Kansas City right now. Correct. So that's why they're in the playoffs. And they can feel better about themselves if they beat the Chargers this week. They're not being the Chargers this week. Point being, though, that's a really attractive Jacksonville TV reporter going over to a bunch of people saying, you're going to put me on TV. I need to kind of sell this a little bit.
Starting point is 02:07:53 Oh, 100%. The girl was yelling at the TV. time. She couldn't name three Jaguars. She went full Tyra Banks. I was rooting for you. We were all root. She went full Tyro with that. It wasn't like they were playing for the national championship or a Super Bowl
Starting point is 02:08:09 appearance. They were playing in week 10 to have a one-game lead over the Texans. And have a wild card spot still. I say, you would move from being the seven seed to the sixth seed. You know what that means? It faced off against the three-seat. The three-seat right now is the New England Patriots.
Starting point is 02:08:24 It was a little much. That's why You know, when things are a little much, you put it on the radio program. I love it. No, you know what I can appreciate? Every single one of them understood the bit, and they tried to top each other. Like, did you notice that job? If you replay it, you'll see every single one gets louder and louder and louder because it's like, oh, she was at an 11. Girl A yells.
Starting point is 02:08:47 I got a voice. I got a voice. I got to go more. We could have got a field call. We didn't get the field goal. Could have got a field goal. And they're three and five. Can you tell us how the three, two and five, three and five, Texas beat us?
Starting point is 02:09:01 Is it better than you? So you're mad. I'm very mad. I'm so mad. Oh yeah, you're really mad. We're gonna win! We had it! I'm pissed!
Starting point is 02:09:09 Very bad! Should have kept running the ball. You gotta keep those for Future Rotten Fives. Very bad. Oh my God. And then you hear the girl in the background like, hey, hey, I didn't get enough in. I still need my extra 15 seconds. Let me just go ahead and scream from behind a little bit.
Starting point is 02:09:25 And oh, by the way, it's not like the job. the way, it's not like the Jacksonville Jaguars are enriched with great football success. They've had a lot of losses in their life. You have one year with the boat and that's all you have. Yeah. Do you even know who the boat is? Maurice Jones, Drew. No, Blake Bortles.
Starting point is 02:09:41 Oh, geez. They had a great year with Blake Bortles. They did have a good year with Borders. Where they went all the way to the AMC Championship and we're leading at halftime. And that's all we can say about Jacksonville. Yeah. And even the years of, well, Brunel, they weren't that great. No, they sucked.
Starting point is 02:09:54 He just was good. Yeah. David Garland was good. I just, to me it was, hey, let's get on television and let's make complete asses of ourselves. So that begs a question now. There are some Texan Twitter accounts that I don't follow, but the 4U tab is there for a reason. Or somebody sends them to you. Or somebody sends them to me. That says, hey, if the Texans beat the Titans.
Starting point is 02:10:18 Which they will. Which they will. And Jacksonville loses to the Chargers. And Denver beats Kansas City. And? There's more? I don't know. I'm asking, is there a one?
Starting point is 02:10:33 That's it. That the Texans could slide into that last playoff spot. At least for one week. Right. I'm glad that you said that last bit. We'll discuss next. 113 of the Matt Thomas show at Ross. Could those three things come into play this week?
Starting point is 02:10:48 Especially because, as I said yesterday during The Tell the Truth, Jonathan, and you're bagging me on for this, for this. And Cole, you were here for this too. I still think Kansas City is going to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. I just do. I don't know why. Don't you make so sound effects at me.
Starting point is 02:11:05 113 on Sports Talk 790. All right. Nico Harrison's been out as a general manager of the Dallas Mavericks. The owner of the team wrote a letter to the fans. We'll play that. We'll read it to you coming up at about 10 minutes.
Starting point is 02:11:19 I wonder if Gina Miller will I have at school with if she wrote this and he just signed it. Or do you think he wrote it? I think someone else wrote it Yeah, most times when they have letters written by owners or general managers or coaches Usually somebody else does it
Starting point is 02:11:32 I got a better one for you Do you think someone actually wrote it or they AIed it And then send it over to him to sign? No, you can't AII this is too big of a move You can't AI a thanks for being a part of our fan base Look forward to the season But when you fire your general manager After all that you can't AI that
Starting point is 02:11:49 So a buddy of mine Does a really good job of finding out where AI is done on on like goodbye letters for head coaches in college football he scanned brian kelly's 88% came back AI written is that right i'm not even joking that's startling i'm not even joking that it was clearly written by a computer okay so we'll read the letter to you coming up at the bottom of the i will decide how much of it was AI written how much of it okay i'll let you decide yeah that's good that's fair uh and could you actually scan it yourself oh yeah there's an app for it okay why don't you i will i will see if i can i will see if i can find it and i will send it over to
Starting point is 02:12:24 Because I'm going to hope it's less than 50% because that really would be disingenuous if it was AI-driven. So you mean it would be like saying, hey, we really don't care about you because we're trying to move the franchise out to Las Vegas. Okay. No, that's not AI generated. That's a bad take.
Starting point is 02:12:39 That's a Cole Thompson generated. That's a Cole Thompson bad take. I used to work with people that bad takes. They never exist. Bad Take Boulevard does not work around here. All right. Two, my thought. Texans beat the Titans.
Starting point is 02:12:50 Yes. The Jaguars lose to the Chargers. Yep. and the Denver Broncos beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Of all three things of those happen, the Texans skirted in that seventh spot in the AFC playoffs. Likelihood of all three of those things happening on Sunday afternoon. Texans beat the Titans.
Starting point is 02:13:12 Chargers beat the Jaguars. Denver beats the Chiefs. That's the three would have to happen. I go 70%. I go 70%. That happens. Denver needs this win. to legitimize their
Starting point is 02:13:25 they're really a real team in the EFC. To me, that's not what it is. Denver needs its offense to win them a football game, I think is what legitimizes them. Okay. Because their defenses showed up in every single matchup and outside of two really good throws from Bow Nix and a run for 26 yards,
Starting point is 02:13:42 they were awful the entire game against Houston. And if not for one 15-minute quarter against the Giants, they lose an embarrassing home game to the New York Giants. And if not for Gino Smith, basically turning into the New York Jets version of himself when they faced off against them on Thursday night football they also lose to the Las Vegas Raiders yeah I do think that all three of those things can't happen okay so if they sneak back in right there will be an energy level around here that will be much better than it was say three weeks ago sure
Starting point is 02:14:12 but then you've got to go do it against two Indianapolis's a Kansas City although if Kansas City loses to Denver maybe the Kansas I don't know how Can you go on a Sunday night to Kansas City when it's 30 degrees and win at Arrowhead Stadium? Because every time the Texans go to Kansas City at night or a playoff or anything, it doesn't turn out well for them. Texans aren't winning that game. I'm chalking it up as an automatic loss. It doesn't matter. Patrick Mahomes could have the worst game of his life the week before.
Starting point is 02:14:41 All right. He will show on up. So how will they do? We're going macro view here for a second. Buffalo at Kansas City to Indianapolis games. That's it in terms of really tough. One more. Chargers on the road. Oh, okay. That's five.
Starting point is 02:14:54 Five. What's their record through those five games? In just those five games. One and four. That doesn't get them in the playoffs. It doesn't. No. Because it's not a playoff team. Listen, we can go ahead and try and convince ourselves that this is a roster that is made to be able to trust its defense to bail out of trouble. Guys, I still watch the first three quarters with Davis Mills. This team, okay, we're going to presume that CJ Extraod is not back for the
Starting point is 02:15:22 this Sunday. And if he's not back this Sunday and you lose to Tennessee, you don't belong in the playoff conversation to begin with. They're going to be Tennessee. No, not an issue. How was this a playoff team if the general franchise, the roster construction hasn't really changed? C.J. Garner Johnson is no longer here, but he wasn't a huge part of it. He was the liability that cost you a win over to Jacksonville. You never had Joe Mixon to begin with. Right. So they were still making predictions based on the Texan season without Joe Mixon. Sure. your offensive line hasn't gotten improved you didn't make any trade moves now it is it hasn't gotten any worse that's true so you're kind of even keel and by the way when looking back at the preseason
Starting point is 02:16:02 predictions how many times did you read when joe mixon returns zero i read it at least three times that when joe mixon returns see i was always in the camp because i'm an insider the insider said he's the only one coming back this year i forgot the matt thomas investigates crew thank you very much thank you i look at this team and i say to myself it's like the college football playoff. And I bring this up because I am a proponent of, hey, we don't need 12 teams. We sure is how I don't need to go to 14 or 16 or expand it.
Starting point is 02:16:29 It's for money purposes. There are not 6, 7 teams in the AFC that can actually win the Super Bowl. So you're a playoff team because of everyone else behind you sucked so bad. Cincinnati bad. Pittsburgh falling off the map.
Starting point is 02:16:46 Kansas City, a 20 C off or Pat from Homs or something like that. Or did Baltimore dig himself up too big of a to come back from that. Miami stinks. Jet stink. Bills end up doing just enough to get by as a six seed. You look at the Jaguars. They collapse. Tennessee, they're a walking doormat. Daniel Jones turns into Danny Dimes the one time you play against him and you get the win. All those things propel you into the conversation of, yeah, you're a playoff team, but you're not really a playoff team. You're a team that's basically serving as the whipping boy for the number
Starting point is 02:17:16 two seat as you get your ass kicked on the Saturday afternoon special. Who's winning the AFC then? That's why when I said Kansas City, I should not have been admonished by you, Jonathan. And again, I actually understand. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I will push back with him, but go ahead. Let's, let's, okay. The thing is, we
Starting point is 02:17:33 can't just, I feel like that's just previous biasness, just go straight for the chiefs are going to run the table and win the AFC. Yes. Okay, if they are, let's. We have four other teams that we know are 10 times more solid right now. Ten times, like whom? I can name four. I can, oh,
Starting point is 02:17:49 Oh, stop. You are such a biased charger, Homer. Even if the Broncos are fake and false, they're still 8 and 2. And then you get them in the playoffs and they have to finally let Bo Nix be unleashed and he's a bow done. They score 10 points a game. All right here. So this is my point. The Broncos are this bad and they have not had a solid game where their whole team is together.
Starting point is 02:18:13 And Bo Nix hasn't showed out yet. And they're 8 and 2. The sky's limit for them. Jonathan, I want to remind you that they want to. a playoff game with Tim Tebow as their starting quarterback. And Kelsey has been ho-hole. No, he's not. I mean, I'm in town. You're catching touchdowns every week. I know these things.
Starting point is 02:18:27 The last two weeks. Yeah, I know. I got him. But he's been, he has not, what I'm saying is they have not been the same and nor do that, I think, I think they're one of the weaker teams in the AFC. I honestly think Baltimore can come back and even You are digging yourself at grade. Okay, no, to be fair, to be fair, to be fair,
Starting point is 02:18:44 if I was to make a prediction right now, Baltimore would have a very good inkling I think I'm winning an AFC championship If their defense got healthy If their defense is as healthy as it is right now The way that that offense is built And the way that Derek Henry Pulverizes over opponents
Starting point is 02:19:01 And the fact that Lamar Jackson is still the most Accra quarterback in the NFL I would take Baltimore at this point To win the AFC And we're sleeping on the pastries I know Drake May has a lot Stop! Stop! No, they're going to soil themselves
Starting point is 02:19:15 in her first playoff games I just can't. We've got three weeks. I'm away. I know. I know. Who is more likely to soil themselves? The Bo Nix led Denver Broncos or the first time in the playoff, Drake May, New England Patriots.
Starting point is 02:19:27 The Denver Broncos. I think the Denver Broncos 100%. I think Drake May is fantastic. He's MVP candidate. He's not going to be the reason why they lose. I just think the whole sum of the parts. They're not ready for it. And here's the bottom line.
Starting point is 02:19:43 What does Kansas City have that everyone wants? Playoff experience and winning games and the quarterback and that's just it. And five different scale position. You need the quarterback in the most dire games. Tell me right now, even with an underwhelming season, are you taking any quarterback not named Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen over Patch Mahomes in the playoff? No. Not Herbert, not May.
Starting point is 02:20:09 Not CJ. Not CJ. Not Bo. Not Danny Dimes. Not Aaron Rogers, who is sometimes beating Father Time. Honestly, the team that's built for it is probably the Colts, but you're waiting for Danny Dimes to become the Danny Dimes of the New York Giants. You have to slow down Jonathan Taylor.
Starting point is 02:20:25 You win the football game. They didn't slow down Jonathan Taylor at all in Berlin. And guess what happened? He came back. He caused, he caused, there is a national warrant of everyone talking about what's been going on in the NFL because of it. There is a national crisis going on Atlanta because of you had a win and you found a way to screw it on up because Jonathan Taylor decided to go ahead and create assault on the city of Atlanta. And by the way, he will be going into the Texas Ring of Honor, too.
Starting point is 02:20:53 There are more Colton to Ring of Honor. There will be Texans. T.Y. Hilton. Yep. Patton Manning. Marvin Harrison. Marvin Harrison. Do you throw Reggie up there?
Starting point is 02:21:02 Reggie Wayne. All right, you do. Do you throw Dwight Freeny? Do you throw Dwight Freeney? Okay. That's six. J.T. Seven.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Do you throw Dallas Clark in that conversation? No. Okay. So you've got seven cults in the Texans ring of honor. You have Janice, J.J, J.J, André, and Bob. Do you think that there's another one that belongs there? From the Texan side? Yes.
Starting point is 02:21:28 Don't even say it. You wouldn't say Deontre? Oh, that's never going to happen. Okay. So you would not throw... For reasons not related to football. What about Arian? No, not good enough.
Starting point is 02:21:38 Not long enough. What about whenever he is done playing football? Would you bat him, Will Anderson? uh yeah there's he's on the path for sure he is on the path he is on the path i would agree with you what about nico on the path on the path fair enough but no no yes is at that point into any of us i don't disagree though jonathan i agree with you on this i do not think that can't city is going to win the a fc this year i don't but i'm not going to say that matt's wrong he's 100 he is very valid to don't go against me you don't happen to go against me this has to be uh convincing i mean convincing
Starting point is 02:22:13 win against Bo Nix for me to even like even drop I sort of a little bit. So out of curiosity, just out of curiosity, I have to know this. At a curiosity, are you telling me that if Bo Nix has a three interception game and Patrick Mahomes balls on out, but he throws a pick six on the final play
Starting point is 02:22:29 and Denver wins. They're not winning. They're not. You're telling you're telling me that you still are not believing again since. Their season is make or breaking these next two weeks. Kansas City's? No chance. No. No chance. The agency is dominate. I want you to look at Anti-City's schedule, okay?
Starting point is 02:22:45 I'm looking at it right now. Indy, Denver, you have Dallas, you have the charges who are going to choke it away at this point, Tennessee, Houston, Las Vegas, and then Denver a second time. They're going to be host and playoff games. I didn't swear, I didn't stutter. Our Houston defense is top-notch. They can even lose that game. There was a top-notch defense that just came through a week ago, and guess what happened?
Starting point is 02:23:10 It ended up winning and holding out for five field goals. I don't believe them. I just don't believe in them. That's just what it is. All right. The Mavericks owner wrote an I'm sorry letter to Nico about Nico Harrison and the way he's treated the fans. We'll read it to you next. And we're going to find out how much of that is AI generated.
Starting point is 02:23:28 And please let it be a small amount. It's going to be over 50%. Oh, God. I hope you're wrong. You know what? It would be very Dallas. It'd be very artificial. You know, Dallas is artificial.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Exactly. Everything about them is fake. We just have ESPN on, ESPN on here in the TV and the booth. and Brian Kelly files suit against LSU claimed school wants to fire him from cause. Yeah, good, Brian. You know what? I'm not a Brian Kelly guy. I thought it was a accident for him to leave Notre Dame.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Yeah. But that was LSU's call. They hired him. He wasn't authentic when he got there. He probably wasn't very authentic at any point in his Baton Rouge life. He wasn't. But that's what they chose. And sometimes you've got to take the L.
Starting point is 02:24:09 And I think LSU's got to take the L on this. The way that I view it is, and I've always. thought this way. The people of Louisiana can see right through your charade because they know how much you make fun of them. They know how much you talk about being in the boondocks. They know how much you call them hillbillies. They can see you right through whenever you're lying through your teeth. If you embrace them for who they are, it will be the salt of the earth type of mentality people. You screwed up by hiring Brian Kelly because he never cared about you.
Starting point is 02:24:35 And unfortunately, Brian Kelly wasn't fired for cause. He was fired for not fitting the culture. Well, there was a cause. He went winning enough. Yeah, yeah. He was for sucking against really, really bad teams and not being able to win enough games. And he came on in for the identity of, hey, I won a lot at Notre Dame where I could compete against nobody and I could make my own schedule. Yeah. That was it. And every other coach that came on through, including Bumbling Ed Orgeron, who truly was the
Starting point is 02:25:00 epitome of what Louisiana is, won a national title in four years. And in four years, you have what? One win over Alabama? Great story, bro. That's not good enough down here. Never should be. All right. So here comes the letter.
Starting point is 02:25:15 And we won't putting music behind it because I want you to be able to see. Have you been able to figure out if this is an AR generator or not? Not even a little bit. Okay. Dear Mabbs family, on May 30th,
Starting point is 02:25:26 2000, let's do this. Hold up. Hold on May 30th, starting off of the day already seems like we're entering AI territory. On May 30th, 2024, the Mavericks won the Western Conference Championship. We came up short in the NBA final but we all agreed our future was bright.
Starting point is 02:25:45 As fans of this franchise, you have every right to demand a commitment to success from us. What is your AI meter say at this point? I would go at about a 10%. That opening line is the AI. Everything else feels very genuine. No one associated with the Mavericks organization
Starting point is 02:26:01 is happy with the start of what we all believe would be a promising season. You have high expectations for the Mavericks, and I share them with you. When the results don't meet expectations, it's my responsibility to act. I made the decision to part ways with general manager Nico Harris. Though the majority of the 2025-26 season remains to be played,
Starting point is 02:26:20 and I know our players are deeply committed to a winning culture, the decision was critical to moving our franchise towards a positive direction. I understand the profound impact these difficult last several months have had. Please know I'm fully committed to the success of the Mavericks. Thank you for your support. Thank you for holding us accountable. And thank you for your passion and for your patience. You deserve transparency and a team that reflects your spirit.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Our goal is a return winning basketball to Dallas and win championships. Our family is committed to that mission and to continuing to invest in Dallas and the Mavericks future. Please join me and continuing to cheer on our players and supporting all those who work to make this organization the best it can be. Go Mavs, thank you, signed Patrick Dumont. Now, a couple things. Okay. Good letter. Very solid that was written by somebody not named Patrick Dumont.
Starting point is 02:27:09 Yes. Maybe Gina. You never know. Okay. So somebody, maybe even a higher beyond the Dallas Maverick. Sure. A high-end PR firm. They hired a PR firm to write. For sure.
Starting point is 02:27:18 That happens all the time. Yes. I would say probably 25% of letters that are written by coaches and above are written by people not. Or it was 50% AI and somebody went in and changed some words around to make it sound more efficient. See, the problem is if you AI that and you catch, like if you just General Cole catch that, word travels that it was AIed, that's not even a bad look there. Well, it's a slap in the face to your fan. We made the move and I don't even have enough time to be able to go write a polished letter that says, my dad, babe. Now, as a PR side of this for the team, I would not put Patrick Dumont in front of a microphone.
Starting point is 02:27:53 My guess is they're saying, this letter says it all. There's not much more to be said. Now, the question would be to me if I was a Dallas Maverick fan, how much of this, of this responsibility of this tough start, of this tough. of ending of the trade are you personally responsible for because owners typically it's the buck stops with the owner correct yes unless no unless no there's no unless there's no unless but there is a i really thought nico was going to do the right thing for us i wasn't doing this because i'm trying to move the team to los vegas stay out of this goal i wasn't trying to do this because i was really getting some advice
Starting point is 02:28:39 from my general manager that said you need to really think hard about whether or not you want to pay supermax money to a guy who were openly concerned about whether or not he can stay healthy to help us win a championship. He's had
Starting point is 02:28:55 aches and pains over his NBA career. Frankly, everybody has. Kevin Durant has had aches and pains over a lot of his NBA career. It didn't stop the rockets from saying, you know what? I'm going to take him for what I can get from him and he's going to be awesome for us. So those questions about how much did you know, how much did you accept, how much did you say this is on you, this is your call, you make it, I'm winning for it,
Starting point is 02:29:21 how much of this was, look at us a tub, and I don't want to pay a guy $60 million to be a tub. I don't care how good he is. Just give me fair market value in return. And if I'm Patrick Dumont and I don't have an evaluation of whether, what exactly is good fair value, I mean, Anthony Davis, an All-Star, Andy Davis not chob liver. Anthony Davis just, this biggest problem is he can't stay healthy. Right. And anybody that would have done any recon or looked at the resume of me, Anthony Davis would have said, yeah, he's really good when he plays. And he plays less than the guy that we're about ready to trade away.
Starting point is 02:29:53 That's the problem. So I don't believe this is AI driven. It better not be or it's going to get out. It was and that's going to be bad. But secondly, I want to know how deep down Patrick Dumont feels about this. I think bringing the fan to the arena and sitting them down and sitting in the Laker jersey
Starting point is 02:30:10 That wasn't for show I think he was trying to say look I've screwed up here I'm goofed And I can't let this go on anymore So If you were to grade out how this whole thing is I give him a B for recovery in this thing
Starting point is 02:30:23 I really do I give you an F I give you an F entirely and because of if you are smart enough to buy an NBA franchise I'm not talking about the whole thing No no no I know
Starting point is 02:30:34 okay let's make sure you know But if you're smart enough to buy an NBA franchise, a very historic one that has been in the public limelight for years, even if you use this as kind of like a cash grab and just a way for you to go profit and bring in more money, you should know about your team before you sign off in the dotted line. There are not 10 players better in the NBA than Luca. And Luca through seven games this season with the team that you trade him to is averaging nearly a triple double with 37 points per night. So you out on that together And he's playing And he's playing You out of that together
Starting point is 02:31:08 You're telling me That either you got bad recon from The general manager Who when everyone made it clear The second that the trade was official And Shams went on Twitter Holy crap This is the worst trade we have ever seen
Starting point is 02:31:22 In the history of the NBA You should have fired him on the spot Yep Or you should have done anything possible To nix the deal before we got out But that's on you That's not on everything Anybody else other than just you as an owner of a team, and now you're having to pay the
Starting point is 02:31:38 comeuppets for it. So I don't feel bad for you. I don't care that you wrote a letter to the city. You cost a franchise potentially a great championship. This is all you on you. You just said this, Matt. You're the last line of defense. You had every opportunity to say, nope, we're not doing this.
Starting point is 02:31:55 You signed off on it. Pay the price. And I'm sorry, I say stand in front of the media. Take the criticism. But if you're on the other side of it If you're on the Maverick side You're not letting a guy and speak You're just not
Starting point is 02:32:08 You're not, but you need to And the reason why you need to Is because if you have to make sure That you never are put in that position again You and I've talked about this We make mistakes When you make a mistake that is so bad Me personally
Starting point is 02:32:19 Drink a tequila Guess what I'm never doing again I cannot function Ever touching tequila You gotta learn for your mistakes I learn from my mistake You got to address the media that way okay that's the
Starting point is 02:32:33 fan in you that's the media side of you that's the great conversation part of it but having been on both sides of the fence on this one I can see them saying you wrote your letter you're good from the maverg's standpoint and you made your decision for the maverick standpoint
Starting point is 02:32:45 I completely understand why he is not getting in front of the mic believe it or not is up next it's all things about veterans day 713-212-5-790 7-1-2-1-790 we're playing for Jack Johnson tickets Cole what's your favorite
Starting point is 02:33:00 jack johnson song banana pancakes hmm that are upside down i'm gonna go upside down it's also my favorite kind of cake 713 212 5 790 all right tomorrow we got shut your bum ass up we got what else I got we got a rock his game to get to
Starting point is 02:33:23 my email dog is going to join us on thursday channel room's going to join us from las vegas on thursday Is that where the winter meetings are right now? No, it's not winter. It's general managers. GM meetings. I don't know why they do two different ones. And they do it in two different locations too. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:38 That's dumb. Just do it back to back. Or just, you know, or just stay there for 10 days or whatever. Six or seven. I mean, I understand why they. Did you hear who was out at GM meetings, though? From Bervaldez. How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 02:33:51 He's trying to, he's trying to probably work on his reputation. I think. I can't. The money that is being talked. talked about for him is gray, cray. You think it's, I think it's too low.
Starting point is 02:34:04 Mm-mm. I think $120 million is a steal for five years. I think, I think he is, I don't like to predict injuries because that makes me feel like I'm a shallow human being, but he's been healthy for too long.
Starting point is 02:34:15 I mean, I'm serious. So, so it's the Dillon C's effect. It's injured, plus the fact that he can crack like an egg. We saw it firsthand. I'm telling you right now, Matt Thomas, if we see Dill and C's sign here,
Starting point is 02:34:25 he will be one of the biggest bust of a signings that we have ever seen in the ostracist. I made a gut feeling that. Dylan Cease was not going to be an astro, remember? You did. Five minutes left to go on the show. What should we do?
Starting point is 02:34:37 We should play America's fastest growing sports radio game. Shall we simply call it B. Leave it on and here's how it works. You'll call 713212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. Today's edition of Believe it or not is All Things About Veterans Day. I'll read your statement about anything involving our military. Statements completely utterly accurate.
Starting point is 02:34:57 You'll say this. Believe it. the erroneous funnel bunk and man up, you'll say this. Two believer in a row on all things about Veterans Day in the military and win you either a 790 t-shirt or a pair of tickets to see Jack Johnson live at the Surfer Music. Surf of Music. 2026 tour, August 28th at the Woodlands Pavilion.
Starting point is 02:35:17 Tickets go on sale this Friday at 10 a.m. at Ticketmaster.com. Jack Johnson, August 28th at the Woodlands Pavilion. 713-212.5.7. Matt on 790. ready to play believe it or not believe it Matt, Veterans Day was originally established on November the 11th of 1919
Starting point is 02:35:35 to commemorate the armistice between the allies of World War I and Germany marking the end of World War I Believe it or not Believe it That's great That's a very factual statement I'll say that was way too on the nose
Starting point is 02:35:48 Statement number two for the win California is the U.S. date which has the most military veterans Believe it or not Not They do Sorry Really? California.
Starting point is 02:36:01 I would have guessed Florida. I usually can go California, Florida, Texas, New York, and big states. I would have gone with... I think of those two make a lot of sense, though. Easy on 790, EZ. You're ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it.
Starting point is 02:36:13 Veterans Day is always on November the 11th, i.e. 1111. Believe it or not? Believe it. That's right. Believe it. Statement number two for the win. 14 presidents have served in the U.S. military.
Starting point is 02:36:27 Believe it. Or not? Not. 26. Congratulations. Nicely done. I would have guessed more. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:39 I would guess way more in twice. I want to make sure it was not even like minutiae-esque. Renee on 7-90, Renee, what was your favorite part of today's 10-2 radio show? What? You think women don't listen to your show? What was your favorite part? Well, I'd say the Mavericks talk. The term Semperfi used by the United States Marine Corps means defend forever, believe it or not.
Starting point is 02:37:07 Believe it. No, it means always faithful. Renee, you're faithful to us, and for that we thank you. She is a listener. Neal on 790, ready to play Believe it or not? Yes, sir. The tomb of the unknown soldier can be found in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Believe it or not?
Starting point is 02:37:26 Believe it. No, it's in Arlington, Virginia. I knew that was going to get somebody, too. All right. Let's go to Steve on 7.90. Steve, you ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. The traditional symbol of Veterans Day is the white carnation.
Starting point is 02:37:42 Believe it or not. Not. It is the red poppy flower. Of course, it's not the white carnation. White carnation. Statement number two for the win. Of all the military branches, the Army is the oldest. Believe it or not.
Starting point is 02:37:58 Not. It is June 1775. Navy was three months later than that. I thought the Navy was first. I would have lost on that one. And that's it. We had one one easy one today. By the way, thanks everybody again for serving our country.
Starting point is 02:38:15 Thank you. Hope you have a nice, relaxing day. Take care of a veteran. Thank them for their service. Thank all of you for your service. Thank you for listening. Thank you, Cole, for coming in for a couple of hours. Any time, friend.
Starting point is 02:38:24 And let's get off of this ridiculous thought of Dallas is turning with the team of Las Vegas. Never. And I will bring this up with Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler. On what show? The team. Talk to you tomorrow at 10 right here on 790.

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