The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - ESPN Says Texans Had Worst Off season, Is 82 Game Season Legit, Non Florida Stories

Episode Date: May 21, 2020

So much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. 12.01 at H-town. What's happening in lunchtimmers? Good afternoon to you. And welcome to the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790

with our producer Joe George, my co-host, friend of many-year sports RV, Rossville, Real. and I got Indian Kalu hanging out for an extra segment. Indy and Kalu? Yeah. So is that Indy and Kalu? It's like a two-person show.

Are you using a right microphone, by the way? Is this the one he should be using? Can you hear? Is it on? I hope so. There's no light. Yeah, that's a, you're good, you're good. It's a billion-dollar industry.

You've been listening to my show. Well, it was a billion dollar. I'm sure today's value. It's about worth $84,000. And not on my paycheck. Yeah, 100,000, please. Yeah, my paycheck. Okay.

we don't usually open up the show by piggybacking off of something that the previous show did it, although sometimes it can happen. I do a whole show doing that. Well, you know what? Since I've kind of come over here, we get less indie cross talk, which is amazing. That is right. That is right.

And it's always, quite honestly, the best segments of the show are always with indie cross talk. So that's what I've been told. At 10 o'clock, I religiously put on the old 790 to listen to you and see what you guys are talking about. You always talk about the greatest sport in the history of sports, which is the NBA. And you were, you brought up a conversation about one-one's first overall picks and NFL drafts.

Correct. And you went through a list and I think you started with, uh, uh, so Gordy saw an article that said Eli Manning may be the greatest number one overall pick in, you know, from 2000 to 2020. Yeah. So you guys were going through this. Yes. And you know how sometimes you get in a car and you hear a debate about something and you're like yelling at the mic at the radio? I wasn't yelling. But I was like, I cannot wait for you and I to talk about this. Your definition of whether or not a 1-1-1 is great or not, from what I heard from your segment, you were way too tough on them.

Really? Way too tough. I think, and again, you could change it. But I felt like listening to you running through those players that if 1-1 doesn't make it or will at some point be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it's not a good one. 1-1. Yes and no. That's the expectation.

I even said the expectations were unreasonable. They weren't reasonable because you expect the number one overall pick for the team that picked them. Because Alex Smith, Chris Gordy and I

were going back and forth. Alex Smith has had a great career when it's all said and done. And for me, is a good 1-1-1. He helped out, well, the Redskins not so much,

but he helped out the Niners become relevant again. He certainly helped Kansas City become relevant again. He's been the NFL for a dozen plus years. Right, that's a very good career, but when you think

number one overall pick, and again, I'm saying that these aren't reasonable expectations, but this is thought, you expect Peyton Manning's career. You know, you expect and Eli Manning's... What you're just saying, what you're expecting is Hall of Fame. Right, right. That's what you expect. You expect JJ Watt type career, so those guys that go number one

overall, it's tougher for them to live up to those expectations. But it depends on who's setting up the expectations. I think most people... For instance, I'll give you another one overall. I know. First vote. When you're the number one, you are the face of the franchise, you are the top guy you're making more money. You should be amazing. Yes.

But relatively speaking, not every first round pick, not every one-dash-one is going to be Hall of Fame amazing. Exactly. But so I would say, as my argument to you on this, is I'm not saying dumb down the expectations, but I'm saying I think you have to be a little more reasonable to it. For instance, Matthew Stafford. Was he at 1-1-1? He's a 1-1-yes, 2000. Yeah, 2009. Yes.

He's a good 1-1. He absolutely is. He has been the starting quarterback for the Detroit Lions for a better part of a decade. How hard is it to keep a quarterback on your football team and who is successful for over a decade? I agree with that. That's a good 1-1. No, he's one of the few that I would say because of the position he plays, because of the fact that he's played that long there and he's been successful as far as the stats.

But where you get a little hesitant is how many rings does he have? That's. And also it was going to be what did the lines put around him? Yeah. Oh, have you heard of Megatron? Calvin Johnson anyone? Yeah, but he quit. Yeah, after 12.

Because Matthew Stafford was his quarterback. That's not. That's why he quit. You know why he quit? The exact same reason why Barry Sanders quit. Bad-ass Detroit Lions defense. Or like thereof. And management. Or no offensive line.

Because the team wasn't successful. But he quit because he retired. I don't want to say quit because the team wasn't successful. Yeah. And you're the starting. quarterback and you have one of the best, if not the best at the time, wide receiver on your team and you can't keep him happy? But I do think Matthew Stafford, yeah, that's one that if we revisit that draft, he probably still the number one. So let's do this really quick,

because you guys did this in your show. We'll do it real quick. We'll start out at Alex Smith. I think, yes, good one-dash-one. No, I think, yes, very good football player, but not one, not number one overall pick. And you brought up Kansas City. The people that spent the number one overall pick on him, they don't care what he did in Kansas City. That's true. But I'm thinking about if you said name that player. Now, here's where you can change the argument a little bit. Was there another quarterback in that draft that far out played Alex Smith? Then you can say, well, that wasn't a good one-dash-one because somebody else should have been taken instead of Alex Smith. I'm curious. I can't remember who all was drafted that year. Aaron Rogers. What do he say? Aaron Rogers.

Oh, thank you. Point? He just made my book. But I remember in 2005, because I was living in Salt Lake at the time, and I covered Alex Smith's last year at Utah. Now, Aaron Rogers was never a potential of our number one pick. He wasn't. So it was not just the Niners at goofed. It was everybody goofed. Similar to JJ White.

If you go back to 2011, he should be the number one overall pick. People don't realize, they didn't think that he was going to be who he is. So let's go to the obvious ones. Jamarcus Russell and 07, no. Jake Long and 08, no. I say yes and Matthew Stafford. Sam Bradford? No.

No. Cam Newton? No. Really? Sam Bradford's bank account disagrees. Let's not worry about the finances of this. Guess who doesn't care where I have him ranked? I think Cam Newton can be a yes.

I don't think Cam Newton's career is over with. It's over in Carolina. The people who spent the number number of... Turned to a Super Bowl. He took him to one Super Bowl and he was the NFL MVP once. That's good. That's really good. That's very good.

when I think number one, number one, I expect that at least two or three times. Andrew Luck. No. You talk about, I don't, he left early. I hate to use the word quit, but man,

right before the season. He's aching. So is 99.9% of the entire NFL. Eric Fisher. What did Andrew Luck give him? Good four years? Four Pro Bowls. Yeah, no. It could have been. He was trending that way, but no.

It's funny. Andrew Luck to me and Ross, you agree with him, remember when we'd all argue about this with Lance. A lot of people would say Andrew Luck, the hype was way more than what was really there. The sizzle was great and the stake. Yeah, biggest, I would say most lauded quarterback prospects since Peyton Manning. And then now, I think it's going to be Trevor Lawrence. Oh, absolutely. Well, yeah, because the whole suck for luck thing, I could see how you could say he didn't meet that because it was an entire year of suck for luck. But it was because of injuries.

Yeah. You know, it's not anything like Courtney Brown. They consider him a bus. I hate the word bust with Courtney Brown. He was injured. Okay. You know, he was injured. Eric Fisher.

No. Jadavion Clowny. No. Now, that's a good example of it didn't mean it because everybody in their mind watched him destroy that Michigan quarterback. And like this, running back, excuse me, running back. That man is going to wreak havoc in the national. He's going to be Lawrence Taylor times 500. Right.

And he's just been. He hasn't been a 1-1. Well said. James Winston? No. And then the rest of them we don't, we can't really tell at this point. Jared golf, Miles Garrett, Baker Mayfield, Kyle Murray, and Joe Burr. But I just, it was, it was to me, I was listening going, man, y'all are damn tough.

But maybe 1-1-1 has to be a tough parameter. To be the number one overall pig in the entire NFL draft. That's huge. You better have to live up to it. And I'm saying it's not real listening. It's probably not even fair. But when I think number one, number one, I'm thinking this guy should be all pro four or five years at least for the team that drafted him.

Oh, for the team. Okay. Yeah, for the team. I just think it's just a very difficult position. Because again, I look at Matt Stafford, I go, you know what? The Detroit Lions for over a decade have not had to worry about the starting quarterback spot. Say which rule about what's around him. Say with the will that he pad stats.

Matthew Stafford has been able to state. I agree with that one. So on the list, Eli, Manning, Matthew Stafford, are the only two that I say, yeah. Elon Manning, for sure. Two Super Bowls. Two Super Bowl MVP. Yeah. So what year were you drafted? What round were you drafted? Fifth.

And what number were you in that round? Well, overall, 152. Okay, Ross. I lived up to my expectations. Ross, five-de-exceeded, Ross, 5-152. How did it include? Exceeded expectations, above and beyond.

Thank you, Ross. I still watch your three-second. on a YouTube every once in a while. It was four, but they took one away from me. Did they really? Yeah. Oh, what happened? He fell and I touched him first, and that's supposed to be a sad.

So Michael Strahan should have one taken away. Exactly, because after the game, you know, when Andy Reid gave me the game ball, it was like four-sad game. Then like two days later, the NFL called and said, hey, we have to take one away. Yeah. I was like, God, doggie. All right. Well, thanks for coming in.

I just wanted to do this. I was hearing y'all like, man, y'all are tough. You know what? I may have to re, I'm going to have to evaluate what I'm saying and think it through. Because in theory, you're right. 1-1 is a franchise building, amazing can't miss. And I just think the definition of can't miss needs to be a little bit shuffled a little bit. Every other one-1-1 that you mentioned, if hindsight 20-20, going back, I would trade away that number one for more picks, except for Eli and Matthew Stack.

I think there's just frankly probably too much pressure on 1-1. Right. All right. That's it. What are you going to do the rest of the day? Oh, I have to go look at some renovations. You should keep it on 790 as we entertain you all the way through. Matter of fact, the workers, the ones that understand English, they keep it on 7-90.

What about the ones that don't understand English? It used to be a station down the hall that they used to listen to. Oh. I don't know what they listen to now. The sports one? No. The music. It was music.

Yeah, okay. We used to have an ESPN Deportes. in here. But they're going now for some reason. Well, racist. Racist. This company's racist. We kick it out of ISPN the Porte's. Keep me entertained. Thank you, Indie. All right. Hi, Ross.

Hey, Matt. I just had to get that off my chest. I never see Indy. I just thought it was interesting stuff. We should, we would be lucky to have Indie for a segment on the Matt Thomas show. Well, luck's a strong term. All right. When we come back, Bill Barnwell. Who? Is he a Texan hater? I don't think he cares for Bill O'Brien in his decisions. If your Texans, Karen, out there listening right now, you are not going to want to hear what Barabon will have to say about the Texans offseason. Your phone call certainly welcome all throughout the day. We've got a lot to get to.

We have, among other topics, Ultimate Tag. Chipper Jones, not very encouraged by the recent developments in Major League Baseball. Game 6th the movie from last night. And we're going to play something called oral interpretation. Carl Malone. I can't wait. You shouldn't. And at 2.30, it could be a forgettable segment once again. Joe George is going to lead off our non-Florida stories this week. He has absolutely butchered most of them during the course of the year. I hope that isn't the case today. Right now, a message for bronze roofing. The folks at bronze have done a terrific job

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Hope you guys are in a really good mood today. We are as well down the home stretch. Tomorrow is an anything goes fronty. Tomorrow is our fantasy five. Our favorite rocket starting five of players that wore a rocket uniform but never, ever made an All-Star team. So we're building a one through five. Yeah, it's going to be hard to argue, really.

I think the value, as Joe said yesterday, is going to be in picks four and five, in rounds four and five. That's true. So that'll be tomorrow. And maybe some news on the NBA. NBA, there's a report out of Dallas that says the NBA is going to try to, and they're going to have a visit with the Board of Governors about this, meeting the owners and, like the team presidents, that there could be a total of a 70-game schedule to start in mid-July. and then the playoffs shortly after that. Still to be determined whether they do it in Orlando,

Las Vegas. I know Houston's been brought up in the mix as well. So it looks like things are moving along pretty nicely. 70 games would put the Rockets with at about, how many they play? 63, do we figure out? How many have they played so far this year? 65, I think.

So they're all trying to get to an even number of 70s, what they're trying to do, which makes sense in order to see things. Because they've got six games left. So they'll have. have to play six. The question is, what six do you play? And then on top of that, you know, I think the teams in both conferences are pretty much established. It's going to be the seedings because the Rockets could go as high. Well, they're right now in the six. They can probably go to the four, right? A couple things turn here and there. They would have to, yeah. In Utah, by the

way. But Home Court doesn't even matter. They could go to three. They could go to three. Well, it's not about home court. It's about who you face. Making up two and a half games, you would have to go 6 and 0 and somebody then the Nuggets would have to go what, 3 and 3? I think Utah is very vulnerable for two reasons. One, Bogdan Bogdanovich is done for the year.

Rocket killer, unfortunately. And are we sure that Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gober are getting along? No. No, we're not. No, we're not. What do they would do about the masks? Fences were getting mended there. That could be public.

What do they would do about the Mavs? The Mavs have played 67 games. So they only get three warm-up games, but the Rockets get six? Sorry, Mavs. Like, that's to me, it's just what... Well, how do you figure that out? If you're the one complaining about it. Yeah, I just think it's...

I just don't know how they're going to balance it out. Like, it just seems odd. Well, my guess would be... You'd probably then... Here, I'll give you an idea, because they're going to... The general manager is apparently going to throw some things out there, too. Because I'm guessing if you're Dallas, you're like, I need more than three. My guess is they'll play a couple of games, because they're all going to be together, right?

in theory. You'd play somebody in your bubble and just not count it as a game. It's just an exhibition. Yeah. Scrimmage. That would make sense. A live scrimmage? Yeah. Because I don't think you're going to get yourself any better playing each other a bunch. You need to play somebody else. But yeah, if you're worried about making sure that everybody plays the same number of games, if you're putting a number on it, it's 70, then the answer is no. And again, I wouldn't say it's fair either to play just six games because that does give somebody either a chance to one more or lost more. So, yeah, that's what would be my thinking is that if you're Dallas and you have played 67, you only got three games left, and you notice that Sacramento's in the same spot than you are. Maybe you grab a Sacramento and play like a pickup game scrim or something like that. But let them figure that out.

Let's go to some phone calls, see what you guys are thinking about today. 713-212-5-790. Josephson-Pareland on the Matt Thomas show. Joseph, good afternoon. Oh, yes, how you doing? Good. How you doing? You're doing, okay?

Yes, sir. I thought I heard NB or whatever. But anyway, I had called the show earlier. Now, I'm trying to make my point. Football is a sport. We understand that. But at the same time, it's a job. And the players need to be more disciplined

because they're costing head coaches their jobs. Okay, my point is that I'm trying to make right now is that Andre Hopkins, for instance. He takes too long to get out of his weight We run a pattern. And that caused the quarterback to be sex. Okay? So, therefore, I hang up and listen.

Thanks. Go ahead, Matthew. Now, I'm going to let you go first. I like turtles. I like cheesecake. Hmm. I like pecan pie. I like the song Summer Breeze by Seals and Crofts.

I thought that was by Jules and Crofts. George Benson. Oh, wait, that's breezing. Yeah. I like that, too. I like Summer in the City by Quincy Jones. I like a good hot shave with good foam and a hot towel driven up. I don't like a, I haven't shaved. I think I've actually shaved off my face, all of my facial hair in probably like two years now.

And the hairs might be grown a little long. Okay. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-790. If you'd like to join the radio program. today. Or you don't have to join it. I mean, it's funny, Joe, you don't know this, but back in the day, you can just come on and say, hi, how are you? And there'd be 45 people that want to talk about a variety of things. Calling just isn't like it used to be. And then those that actually

call, sometimes you just, it takes your wall to interpret a call. Speaking of interpretation, we'll be interpreting something here in about five minutes from now. Let's get to Bill Barnwell. Ross, have we declared he's objective or is he just a hater? I don't know. I mean, he has been a little harsh on the Texans. A little harsh on the Texans offseason and Bill O'Brien, but... Does it deserving of being harsh? Well, I mean, I would have to go through the whole list and decide who's had a better or worst offseason.

I mean, trading away one of your best players and then I think he probably didn't like his draft. and then the Brandon Cook's trade was curious. I'm going to say he's being objective. All right. So Bill Byronwell, me, SBN, had to grade out all 32 of the NFL off-season. Didn't take you long to get to the Texans. Well, it took you very long. No, if you're going from 32 to 1, you're just right there stern at you.

You start with 1. It's going to take you a minute. Okay. So depending on how you're looking at your chart, the absolute worst off-season according to Bill Barwell, again, just one man's opinion, your beloved Houston, Texas. Now, Texans, Karen, if you're listening to us right now, you're not going to want to listen to the next minute and a half of the show. Under the category of what went right, Bill says, hmm, that you hate that when he goes to the hmm card right off the top, right? That's never a good sign.

When says what went right and they start with, hmm, we're starting this series with the toughest question. Huh? I suppose the two-year, $3 million deal, the Texans gave former Eagles and Chargers defensive back Jalen Watkins could be decent value if they slot them in the correct role. They also upgraded their special teams coverage units by importing players such as Eric Murray and Michael Thomas. Second round pick Ross Blacklock, Houston's first selection of the draft, could turn out to be a useful interior disruptor and third pass rusher for a team that has had a league for league's fourth worst adjusted sack rate. So let's take that at face value. You ready?

He says a backup defensive back. Yes. Two special teamers. Yes. And the first player they took in the draft might be pretty good. That's, well, it might be helpful. Helpful. Yeah, it might be a positive.

Might be plus. Okay. So that's about one paragraph on what went right. How many paragraphs are on what went wrong? Oh, I can't read all this in one segment, Mike. Oh, my God, it's like four. No, it's actually two paragraphs. I might have bolded it before you.

What went wrong? The Texans traded away arguably their second best player for pennies in the dollar because he won a new contract and then overpaid for just about every one of the offseason editions. Even if they hadn't traded wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins in a swap of fourth rounders for a second round pick and running back David Johnson's bloated contract, this would be a disaster. Coach Bill O'Brien misread the market and handed out significant deals to quarterback Bradley Roby, kicker Kimey Fairbairn,

Murray, and even threw in a one-year $4 million pack for backup quarterback A.J. McCarran. O'Brien finished up by giving agentless left tackle Laramie Tonsle a three-year extension a market-shifting deal. Everyone saw coming from the moment the Texans traded away multiple first-round picks to acquire Tunzel without negotiating an extension.

as part of the pack. God. That's awful. There's more paragraphs. I can't read any more of this. I would just read the first paragraph of what they could have done differently. How much time do you have?

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All right, so let's finish this off because, you know, clearly Bill Barnwell doesn't know what he's talking about because the Texans have preached patience and Bill O'Brien has preached patience. And capital T, capital E, capital A, capital M. So under the category of what they could have done differently, he says, how much time do you have? That's not very nice. So he goes on and says, the Texans should not have traded away Hopkins, contract demands or not. The Falcons were able to, uh, ooh, S-A-A-A-T-I-A-T-E, S-A-S-A-L, what is that word? Let me find it for you, man.

That's a word I've never seen before my life. All these sports are. It was satiate? Yeah, satiate. Do you have you used that word before in your life? No. Satiate. Julio Jones, when he was three years away from the end of it means.

I've heard the word. I don't know what it means. Okay. When he was three years away from the end of his deal by moving money around before the deal, handing him a new deal two years ago. To satisfy. To satisfy. Okay. And if you don't want to follow that model, which was Hopkins going to do in a league where the new collective bargaining agreement makes it virtually impostering possible for players to hold out.

If O'Brien thought his relationship with Hopkins was unsavageable and needed to trade away his starter receiver, that's one thing. He simply had to get more out of that deal than an underwater running back. Underwater running back. Wow. Yeah, that means like the contract is underwater, I guess, is the term like it's drowning. Yeah. Even ended up with the contract, probably due with performance, unfortunately.

Underwater running back contract and a second round pick. even if Hopkins wanted the new deal, the Stefan Diggs trade saw the Vikings send a less productive player with a reputation of creating drama inside his building to the bills for a much greater haul. Most notably a first round pick.

Beating the Vikings to the punch for the bills deal would have been more defensible. Is he just stealing material from our show, Ross? Is he stealing material from every Houston Texan sports fan? So you have asked multiple times, is this unfair? Or is he have a hate? He's spot on.

This all has great points. He's 100% correct. So the last part of this. There's nothing unfair in the whole thing. So the very last thing is what's left to do? And he says, trade Kenny Stills. The Texas don't really have a need for Stills as their fourth water receiver behind Cobb, Brandon Cooks, and Will Fuller.

And the former Dolphins Whiteout has $7 million an unguaranteed money due on the final year of his deal. There's an obvious fit here with the Packers who didn't get all of their shopping done. this off season. So let's recap this. And I feel like we've done this for two months, but you know what? We ain't no games, so let's do this.

It is what it is. You overpaid for a ride receiver and cop who might be a terrific fella. Check. You went and got a receiver that you traded one of your second round picks for

that has had a terrible problem with concussion history. And his production was cut in half in the last year, even though he played 14 games. Okay. You are now relying on a receiver whose hamstrings do not allow him

or any one of his multiple body parts to not be able to compete on a week in a week out basis, although he's still known for his having speed, and his hands are better than we thought they were going to be, but Will Fuller's hands don't do you any good. Will Fuller's feet and speed don't do any good

if he can't put a uniform on on Sundays. Correct. And you're going to trade Kenny Stills because the things I just said in front of me are all going to come together. That Brayning Cooks is going to have a wonderful season, that Randall Cobb is going to catch everything thrown at him. that Wolfolder is going to play 16 games this year.

It feels like to me that Kenny Stills should be an insurance policy, unless you think DeAndre Carter is an insurance policy, unless you think Kiki Kootie is an insurance policy. The guy who couldn't even get on the field last year? Yeah. It was a healthy scratch numerous times? So Bill Barwell, if you listen to the show right now, which we appreciate on the IHeart Radio app,

first of all, you've stolen our material. Actually, you're not stealing our material. You've stolen the material of every logically thinking Houston Texan fan or person that watches over the team. We've been, we've said all of what was said in that, too, you know. And that's the thing, again, is that sometimes coaches Ross, not sometimes. A lot of times coaches know more than the media, a lot of more than the fans. It's just, it's just the reality.

That's their livelihood. They're in the, they're in their bubble. They work it. They've studied it. They've learned how to do this. I can't out-coach Bill O'Brien. I'll never be able to out-coach him. I'll never be able to out-maneuver him when it comes to talent evaluation.

but I can because I've watched sports all of my life, realize what a fair trade value is, or how to conduct yourself with your team and how building good rapport with your teammates. And what basically he has done since the moment he's been the Houston Texan coach is if you don't completely bind to everything I say, there is no room for negotiation,

there's no room for character building, there's no room for relationship building, your ass is gone. forced out multiple talented players, forced out two general managers, and is just basically wrestled more power within an organization than anyone has in the entire NFL. All the while winning one, two playoff games. And that's Cal's fault.

So it's Cal and Bill. And thus, the number 32 ranking in the ESPN chart is absolutely 100% correct. If we went and grabbed 100 NFL writers, broadcasters, anybody that follows the league on more than a once a week basis. We said, who had the murkiest, weirdest, peculiar, or slash awful offseason, the Houston Texans are going to win this 98 times out of 100. There may be two people that say Green Bay because now Aaron Rogers is pissed that Jordan Love is the backup quarterback.

Yeah, we talked about how they, remember the GPA, the draft grades from like 13 or 14 different Green Bay was 32 and then Texans were at 31. Yeah. Their GPA was like a little over a two. But you guys hear the people. I mean, you, if we called every, if we got a hold of the NFL Network's Rolodex and said, we called every one of the employees, what do you think?

That's at the Texans are the worst offseason. There are a lot of people that are going to agree with that. But guess what Bill O'Brien is doing? Screw those guys. They don't know our business. And we're going to make everybody feel bad about how bad they, and that's the, I guess that's the attitude he's got to have, right? he's got to go in and go, man, I have made some bold-ass moves.

I better have hit these. Capital T, capital E, capital A, capital M. Yeah. Because apparently, the other 31 teams in the NFL don't believe that capital T, capital E, capital A, capital M is the most important thing. Yeah, they just all put parts together and they don't know what they're doing. It's like, you know, I'm really proud of our guys. We're doing this the bad. Wait, they're saying things.

It's like when you ever hear an athletes talking about their fans in their arena, we're the best fans in the NBA. Our fans that make sure baseball the best. Have you ever heard a really good player on a really good team go, God, I wish our fans would show up once in a while. Well, you did have,

who was it that complained about the wave? Was it JJ Watt? I don't remember. The fans were doing the wave, and he's like, we got the greatest fans of the world, but don't do the wave guys. Well, that's why wave busters began.

Or was it a quarterback? They was talking about them doing the wave while the offense was operating or something like that. dumbest thing in sports today. Yeah. It just is. Well, there's not going to be a whole lot of waves going on in 2020.

I mean, I'm not looking for positives in the virus because, man, it sucked, but there's not a negative on no wave. Is that a silver lining for you, Maddie? But you know what, though? Let me rephrase that. If you can give it a chance where everybody gets to go to the stadiums and feel secure and feel safe, I'll accept the wave. You'll put signs on the interests.

Wash your hands, social distance, no waves. No, I'm saying this the opposite. If we can get fans back in the stadium, I'll allow a wave, like a wave, not a quarter, you know how there's a rule, if I'm anti-wave, I'll let this one slide. I'll make am a minute.

A concession? A compromise? A short-term one. Okay. Like, you know, you can pay your taxes later this year than you have in the past. Is that right? Yeah, you have paid like July, I don't think. Okay. I'm going to say for the rest of the calendar year 2020,

and I will also throw in 2021, Wave Busters will go into a hiatus. But for like Super Bowl, 2020, it's out. January 2020, wave busters is back and better than ever. Yeah, I think I've done that. I think I'll make that concession to everybody. So this radio show, this individual you hear right now, will not criticize the wave between now and January of 2022.

But I'm coming back stronger and more aggressive on wave busting starting in 2022. Back with a vengeance. Back with the vengeance. 1242. It is the Matt Thomas show. We thank you very much for listening to Sports Talk 790. 713-212-5-790. I'm going to tell you that I watched 20 minutes of Ultimate Tag yesterday.

That's all I could watch. If you watched Ultimate Tag, give me a review right now one or two ways. 7-13-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. or on Twitter at SportsMT. My 20-minute review of Ultimate Tag is next on 790. When I listen to the Matt Thomas Show, I don't even understand the eclectic nature of the show,

the dichotomy, the ostentatiousness, the perfunctory that sounds about as smart as LeVar Ball. Back to the Matt Thomas Show, whoever he is. All right, Ross already told me he did not watch Ultimate Tag last night. I've seen highlights like on Twitter of crazy little sequences from those games. So I mean,

I had interest, but I didn't even realize it was on. So maybe I would have checked it out for a couple of minutes if I'd known. Joe George was busy watching Grey's Anatomy so there's no chance you watched it. I tried. How many episodes you knocked out last night?

At least two. Has a helicopter fallen on a nurse yet? No. I just made that up. So did you attempt to watch a little bit of ultimate? Yeah, I try. I wasn't interested at all. So, if you did watch it, give me your review at 7132125790. First and foremost, it's not for, I would even say it's not even for you.

You're in the 30s. You're in your 30s. Okay. My guess it's for 12 to 27 year olds, somewhere in that range? 10 year. I mean, it's tag. Everybody's played tag at some point. It's just, as the name of the show would dictate, ultimate tag. Um, it was part American gladiators. It was part, um, wrestling.

It was part, um, pinball machine. Uh, what else would you, would you characterize it as? Um, there was a movie back in the 80s called Tron that it kind of reminded me of a lot. I think that's fair. So the number one problem I had with, there was multiple problems, but again, it's not for me, but it's just, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a Texans player. It's a very recognizable player. It's and I thought JJ was, I mean, if I was, if I was to give a grade on a Saturday Night Live host, he was an A.

He was really, really good when he did it. I was beyond impressed on how good he was on Saturday Night Live. But I thought, first of all, Ultimate Tag was overproduced. I mean, with the fake laughter, the fake claps, the lay. I mean, it was, he would have, he'd have a funny and then they would pan to a to a bunch of people going, The set was a mess. Do they film this previously? Because they had a crowd there?

Oh, yeah. So it's filmed months ago or something. Probably last summer, but it would be my guess. Yeah, it had to be last summer because he was playing football until January. So it's him and his two brothers. JJ probably held the mic 90% of the time. Probably for the right reason. Yeah.

What does Derek and T.J. have to say? Well, apparently not much. every time it looked like JJ had a few ad-lib skills to him and would ask him decent questions and showed some real raw emotion of what was going on like you know person A trying to get past a certain little area

or the person the people they were the taggers were they had these funky names like you know super flip guy or they had wrestling names they had uh they had uh you know the woman was he woman or something. I'm just throwing out names.

They weren't, this is not Greg. This is somebody. Steve Jenkins wasn't on the show. This was micro muscular guy. And those people had to go chase after the contestants. So the brothers were dopes. I mean, they just didn't say anything.

It looks like they were like, do we really have to do this? I mean, JJ could have done the host of the show by himself. And maybe they're not dope. I'm just saying that they just looked like a fish out of water on this. So they're Mortito and Germain. Yeah. That's exactly. That's right.

Michael Jackson is to music as to, yeah, Michael Jackson and JJ Water are the same. The stars, the headline is the one that should be grabbing the microphone. We want to hear their voices. The other ones are just background. Okay. then on top of these goofy-ass steroid people that were the the the micromuscle person that were going to chase after these people some of these people were YouTube and IG models that were the people that were having to go out and tag these people IG models not like you think well like fitness models they were like yeah like muscles and areas you never thought about having a muscle okay that's mostly 76% of my body and then just the whole point system

and the, again, it looked like a pinball machine, looked like Tron. She just didn't like it. Just didn't like it. Well, you know what they... But I tried. You know what they need to do. Hmm.

You need to come out with betting lines. Is it possible to do this live? I mean, with pandemic, not with pandemic, not with standing. In theory, yes. But the show Ross was so overproduced. I can't imagine it being live ever. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Why did they do it that way? Because they... To make it easier because maybe JJ Watts and not didn't have the chop through the natural. Yeah, you have, you have guys having to go over scores. You had, you know,

they had lines. They had to go grab the competitors to have them interviewed. They wanted to show different camera angles. They wanted to show instant replay of the tagger, tagging the taggie. Okay. So I just want to say,

because, you know, sometimes you can easily criticize things like giving a chance. Yeah, it'll be a hater, man. I gave it a 20 minute chance. And I'm just like,

I can't do this anymore. So, I mean, there has been nothing. I mean, I would say maybe Korean baseball is what I've gotten into most? And I've only watched that for like, because it's on 30 minutes. So I flipped over to ESPN last night. They had Game 6 of the Jazz Bowl series in 1998.

They called it the movie, I think is what they called it. Game 6, the movie, I think, yeah. Yeah. That was very interesting to me. Anybody scored 90 points in that game? Don't remember. By the way, the Rockets and Spurs game was on NBA TV this morning from Game 6 and 95 series. They actually got in the 90s. I was pretty happy about that, yeah. I had forgotten how bad of a game, Clyde Drexor had, and the rocket still won.

Well, they were just to superior team, Matt. Duh. To the lackluster San Antonio's first. Houston's basically better than San Antonio and everything. That's true. A lot of lucky calls for about five championships. San Antonio's Tex-Mex is pretty good. Riverwalk food overrated.

Yeah, but Riverwalk is Riverwalk. That's a touristy thing, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. That's what I'm saying. I don't think the locals are at the Riverwalk every weekend. No. Um, so I, so with that being said, I would put San Antonio suburb, uh, text mix over just as good as Houston's text max. Okay.

Riverwalk text max. You're gonna have a bunch of angry San Antonio people. They'll get over, man. They'll be fine. I do like San Antonio. It's okay. I think it's more than okay. If you want to have a weekend there or something.

Yeah. You want to go weekend somewhere. San Antonio is not the worst place in the world. No. I think we're lucky. Like, I mean, I've been to like three Alamo bowls. Like, it's not that bad. I mean, it's almost like a, it's almost like a permanent destination for you.

I'm doing this survey for the Pelicans website. They asked what your favorite place to go in the Southwest Division is. And I kind of said I have favorites for all different reasons. Memphis has great barbecue, good live music, the arena is close to the hotel. What live music are you going to? I've gone to those places on Bill Street for sure. Okay. I mean, I just don't go sit there and listen, but if I'm going to have a place to have dinner,

if I can listen to live music and have dinner, I'm going to knock both out at the same time. Okay. And tunic is only about an hour away. One of my greatest all-time gambling haunts. New Orleans has good food. Check. Good music. Check.

Harris. Check. Cafe Dumont. Check. Vomiting on streets. Check. I didn't bring that up in the story. And trash juice.

Just utter juice. Yeah, just any sorts of nasty juice. They got mountainous piles of trash with just juice pouring down, like cascading like a waterfall. Yeah. Like, if you ever go to New Orleans, smell New Orleans on a Sunday morning at 6 o'clock and then smell it 930. It's like two different worlds. Yeah, well, we've been to the Crystal Burger at 3, 4 a.m. Yes, we have. We had women wearing shorts and had no business wearing shorts saying,

what's up, boys? Very short shorts. It's like, man, you can't have to be wearing those shorts in your three bills, honey. I'm just saying. There's nothing wrong with being three bills. There's nothing wrong with that, Matt. Or we've gone with this. I don't remember. Oh, so back to the dance. We're talking about Ultimate Tag.

Oh, Ultimate Tag. Then you brought up the dance. The dance. Not the dance. The last dance? No, not the last dance. the last dance, the game six movie. Okay, that's right. And you got to go back and see that

because they're shooting it from a way different perspective than you would watch a normal game. Was it cool? I don't think I'd watch it every time that way, but for something I'd never seen before, it was very cool. It was shot like a film. Okay, so you saw some game action. It was kind of like NFL films, like those weird angles.

Very much so. And so when a player would go to the bench, you could hear maybe Jerry Sloan talk to Antoine Carr, or you could hear Phil Jack, like if, let's say the call was made against a bull, Interesting. You would see Phil Jackson for more than three seconds complaining the official about it. It was just a...

I like that. It was cinematography is what it was. Yeah. So for some... I wouldn't want to watch a live game that way, but to see something old like that, it was really interesting. So that's how I spent my night. After watching 20 minutes of Ultimate Tag. Cool.

Now I'm thinking about those... Oh, now I'm thinking about San Antonio. That's how we get back to San Antonio. Yeah, I don't know. So I said... So I said San Antonio is my favorite place to go in the arena in the Southwest Division because... Did they get their feelings hurt? No, it's a good thing.

I was complimentering them. No, I thought you said the Pelicans were asking you. They were. No, they weren't get their feelings, sir. Because they know. I mean, the Pelican, you know. Not a diehard fan base. If you're going to say, hey, do you want a weekend in San Antonio or New Orleans?

It's not even close. I'd agree with you. But the only reason was for that is because there's no hair and San Antonio. Yeah, I do. I do. It counts. 24-hour booze as well. Great breakfast place in the middle of night.

Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't we? We did. We found a new place. I forgot what it's called. We'll find it.

Yeah, we'll find it. Go to mothers where they treat you rudely. Oh, I haven't had a bad experience. Unless you go to, unless you go with Michael Garfield who wants a chat and cut, and that's just really the worst thing ever. What was that during Super Bowl? Yes, it was very uncomfortable.

I was going to say, why would Michael be buried, I mean, Michael Garfield be hanging out with you? Yeah, he wanted to chat. He wanted to chat. I was like, I'm anti-chatting cut. What'd you say to him? I said, I'm not chatting and cutting. You said that out loud?

Out loud. Did you? Usually you shouldn't throw up. people on the bus that way. But chatting is about as rude as it gets. It's kind of a dirty move. Kind of a dirty move. We've all done it, though.

Well, sure. But I'm out doing it on Super Bowl weekend with millions of people in downtown New Orleans. Second hour, the Matt Thomas show starts in a matter of seconds. Chipper Jones. You remember Chipper Jones? Of course. Hated him. I didn't hate him.

But Braves just always killed the Astros. And by the way, does a grown-ass man should call himself Chipper? Probably not. Chipper Jones, not particularly happy with what Blake Snell had to say. I prefer Snapper Jones. May he rest in peace. 713-212-5-790. Also coming up in 20 minutes.

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Why don't we come up with Chipper Jones? That's a good one. When you're 48 years old, you should be Larry, right? Yeah, I think we said Mugsy Bogs. Buster Posey. Nobody goes buying Mugsy after night. 19-20, money. Buster only? Yes, Buster.

Like, if your name is Duke Johnson really Duke, or is it a name, something else? I think it is, well, it's Randy, Duke Johnson, Jr. But as Duke is mentally and that's acceptable then. Randy, no, I think Duke is a nickname. I don't know. I can dig this up. If we're doing Believe it or not, so maybe I could put it on there. By the way, as soon as we open up our offices again, which should be coming up in the not too distant future,

the return of believe it or not comes back into play. Is that right? Joe, you're going to leave the show just in time for the return, I'm excited about that. I am, because I'm excited to hear the new people try to learn how to do it, and they've never done it before. It's a little, I mean, I would screw it up, and I did it every day for years. It's going to be a hot mess, so part of the reason why you should listen every day at 252.

Well, when you pull it off, you feel so proud of yourself. All right, so Chipper, Larry, Chipper Jones. Let's just call him Larry for the sake of this segment. Is he Lawrence or is he Larry? That's a great question. You wouldn't be 48 and call yourself Lawrence, right? It says Larry Wayne Jones. We'll go Larry then.

That's like somebody could name in their kid Matt instead of Matthew. Somebody was asked, so Larry was asked on CBS sports about whether or not the major league baseball season is coming back for 2020. He says the following. I'm going to just one highly regarded, he's in a Hall of Fame, right? Yes. Okay. One recently named Hall of Fame baseball player. In all honesty, I'm a little less optimistic than I was 10 days ago.

two weeks ago, after listening to some key players coming out and speaking out on it, they continue to squabble over dollars and cents, salaries, revenue sharing, and all that kind of stuff. There's 30 million people out there that's out of work, and the last thing they want to hear is a bunch of millionaires and billionaires squabble over maybe getting 30 to 35 percent of their salaries this year. Squabbling over money is probably seventh or eighth on the list of most important things to talk about first. Obviously, the health measures and whatnot are the most important things. thing. Chipper or Larry Jones says Blake's comments last week, quote,

a little bit of a bad look. Blake's now came out last week and as a former player, it was not a great look for the players. I think if he would have stuck in the narrative of the health issue and its concerns over that as opposed to, I'm not going to play because I'm not going to get my money. That was a little bit of a bad look. I was listening to our morning show this today and they had Scott Miller on from Bleacher report and he said And at 80, and you guys agree, because we're all baseball fans here, 82 games, we're not going to, we're not going to make that a cheap season, right? We're going to make this, the only, the only reason why it's 82 games is because of the pandemic. You mean an asterisk?

Estreisk, yeah. We're not going to cheapen the season, aren't we? I think so. We are? Yes. Joe, are you cheapening it? I don't. If they, I don't.

I think it's because, like, we're all going to be in the same situation. So I think we'll look at it as a COVID season. but not as an asterisk. Okay. I do believe the asterisk. Asterisk. Jump into play if you get less than 80. So that's the cutoff.

That's my own personal cutoff. I feel like the cutoff for me, it's like a hundred. 70 seems, ugh. You're talking about 162. Anything less than 100, I feel like it is just, I mean, whoever wins the championship, I think it'll be kind of like the lockout season of 99 in the NBA. where we were like,

San Antonio are the champions, but are they really? And then years later, which was helped by the fact that they won more, years later, you don't think of them as not the champions. That's why the Spurs say suck it because they won a bunch more.

Like if the Reyes win the championship this year, and then they are the raise and they never win again, then we're all going to look at it differently. Yes, we are. But if the Yankees win, if the Astros win... The Astros will be an asterisk.

Well, yeah. If the Nationals won. The whole franchise the next decade I would love nothing more than the Astros to win this year. Oh my God, can you imagine how bad everyone would be me?

The 82 game number is at about the bare minimum boys, which means that's why they are on a clock to get everybody into spring training by say June 5th, right? Well, they wanted June 10th for a July 1st start, right? Or thereabouts, yeah.

Yeah. So, I mean, you get to start, start getting ramped up. 70 seems super cheap. I think if you play less than 70, that's 40% of the season, right? Why would even bother playing? Money. Piece of the pie. 30% of revenue is better than zero. But it's going to come across is Uber chintzy, right?

It's, it might be to some already. I mean, or are we just going to be so happy? I think it already is because it's 82. I mean, we're basically not going to get more than that at this point. There's just no way. I have not heard a hundred any point. All these crazy December ideas and all that stuff, they just don't seem feasible. So I think, I mean, like I said, to me, it already feels cheap.

To me, it already feels like we're just having a season just for money, and that's fine. See, I would feel that way to me if the argument was because of labor problems. COVID's knocked this down to 82. Yeah, I get it. So that's why if you keep it 80s. you get a sort of pass. If you get it less than any to, that means there's something besides COVID that got you.

And the reason of that was the economics. Yeah. And we might see that. I don't know. Could be interesting. They got to get something done pretty quickly here. And I understand where both sides are coming from on this. Union doesn't want to set a precedent. Baseball owners say, hey, come on now. This is way extenuating circumstances are out of our hands.

They're out of our hands. If we took a poll of every major league baseball player and said, Blake Snail said what he said, how do you feel about it? Do you think that he's like, man, we are tone-de-f-f, and we should just take what we can get this year because we can't get that money back?

Or do you think that there are more baseball players that would have said, you know what? Thanks, Blake. Thanks for having, thanks for saying what we wanted to say. That's a great question. I think, I think the younger players are more on board with Blake,

and the older players maybe are, more about like, you need to calm down. We want to play baseball. Or maybe it could be situationally. Like, we've talked about Sean Dood a little and his wife and she has acute asthma. So maybe, I mean, it depends on situationally how people feel about it. But the fact, I mean, I don't know how you could hear. It seemed like, we played Bryce Harper on his stream talking about how he liked, he was on board with what he said.

Clayton Kershaw was more measured, like saying we kind of get where he's coming from. I would say some there's maybe like 40% on board 40% think he's crazy and 20% are like I can see what he's saying but I wouldn't have said it that way something like that. We have a lot of baseball fans that are out there today that have listened to this show and we hopefully will be carrying Astros baseball here on 70 before you know it. If I say 82 games which is the number

and basically what the gentleman in the morning show said today that anything less than that would really cheap in the season is 82 to me the minimum number of games before it becomes cheap? I'll throw that out to you. Is 82 a satisfactory number of games in order to determine a World Series champion, a legit World Series playoffs, with more teams being in it than ever before,

with the fact that DH is no longer going to be just American League, only to be in both leagues? Is 82 sufficient to you? I say because of COVID, the answer is yes. if I would have said because of labor strife, then I probably would have had a different answer to that. But I think COVID has knocked it down to 82. 713-212-5-7-90.

I believe if you get any less than 82, it becomes a remarkably cheaper season, and it makes you think maybe just wait until 2021 after all. 7-13-212-5-7-90. If you'd like to chime in on that, 7-1-3-21-5-7-90 with Ross and Joe. I'm Matt, and this is Sports Talk 790. This is Cougars head coach Dana Holgerson.

Matt's kind of like Shasta without putting on a costume. He's a big old... The Matt Thomas show continues on Sports Talk 790. How about Dana Holgerson taking a pay cut? Calvin Sampson? Chris Pezman, the athletic director, Renu Kutur, the university president. Saving some money. And Shasta.

Yeah, I wonder what Shasta's cut was. They all voluntarily took a 10% of... pay cut for the next six months. 116 on Sports Talk, 790. It is the Matt Thomas show. If you'd like to join us, 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. My question for you this half-hour, if you go on and do so choose, want to respond, is 82

games good enough for you? Will you be able to down the road say, yeah, this was a good, decent, full baseball season under the circumstances, or do you think 82 really, the sheer number of games, basically almost half cheapens up a baseball season. I say no. You say no. I say no because of the COVID. I think if it gets to anything less than 82,

it makes it cheap regardless of what the reason is. I'm sorry. I mean, I say yes, it does cheap. Okay. How much? I think a fair amount, because to me, the thing about 162 game season

and what's it makes it, first of all, it's obviously very long, but I think as far as, like, sample sizes and how good a team really is and how good a real player is and the and the sanctity of, you know, 50 home runs or 40 home runs and how big of deal it was for Alex Redmond. For sure.

Yeah. And especially thinking about how, I mean, players can slump for not an entire, not usually an entire 82 games, but it's just so tough for the water to find its level in half the season. And I just think the way that the baseball season is structured, it's special from opening day to the middle, to the All-Star break, to the dog days, and to the home stretch. It's just, I like the season and how long it is, and you're just kind of taking that away from it.

And, of course, it's not their fault, but it is what it is. I agree with that thing you said, but COVID puts us in a new world this year. That's the reason why I can't punish it. Because at least baseball said, we have got a plan in place to play 82 games. Rossi, the only reason, there are two reasons why that we don't get an 82 game schedule this year. One, because the virus attacks again. And then we probably aren't playing anything at all, right? A second outbreak is a wave, yeah, the people are thinking about. The second reason would be because the owners and the players can't agree on a collective bargaining agreement for this year in terms of

how to distribute the wealth. And then that would just piss me off. It would be like a six-game NFL season. It'd be like playing 38 basketball games, 35. You keep it at 82, that least you get you the halfway mark and say, hey, nobody would ever want to play it this way, but we had to take a derailment of a season to attack this bad boy. So as long as it stays at 82, I'll feel fine. But that does put them on a clock now for about two weeks, right? Pretty much. To hash it out. They got to get something done fairly quickly. All right. We don't do a lot of oral interpreting here on the show.

Correct. Because usually... Oral embraces like you try to hand out. Well, I mentioned another phrase. It was oral. Was it a oral hug? It was an oral hug. You know what oral hug is? Joe George.

Go to Urban Dictionary and you could figure out. I think I got a pretty good idea. Okay. What you think it is? It is. Okay. Don't look it up. I'm doing it right now.

Let me go ahead and give it another thing. So we're not doing an oral hug. We're doing oral interpretations. Okay. So there were two players that were asked to be interviewed for the last dance that said, oh, hell no, I'm not doing it. one is Carl Malone and the other was Brian Russell for obvious reasons. Brian may be more so than Carl.

I wish he could have said his piece and I wonder the story about him talking trash to Michael when he was taking time off and all that type of stuff. We'll never know. Guess we won't. So, Carl Malone, ironically, because wasn't Charles Barkling interviewed for this thing? Was Charles in Last Dance? No, maybe not. Not that I remember Reggie was

Isaiah was Yes I feel like Charles was during the 93 series Yeah Was he on there And the dream During that series

Yeah yeah yeah And dream team too We all like each other I remember that Yeah and he said Like I thought I was the best basketball player in the world Until that series

So how about this How about Isaiah Thomas Who he and Michael hate each other But yet Isaiah Let's give him credit here Still decided to do Yeah The

The interview Joe, I need you to plague as our audio system of our multi-billion-hour computer system is not working here. But Carmelone in January of 2019, I think is when this was, was asked about Michael Jordan.

I listened to it once. Ross listened to it once. I don't know, Joe, if you've heard this or not. I have you. I don't know what the hell he's trying to say. So we'll do this here on the Matt Thomas show like no other show can. We're going to ask all of you to orally interpret Carl Malone.

So when I say you name Michael Jordan, what comes to mind? Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. Like, what else I need to say? Thank you. Go ahead.

So talk to me about the game six finals in Utah when he's told me about it. Why? Why do I have to? But I tell you this, I'm all man. And I accepted responsibility for not winning more, and we was there. We just happened to be playing the Chicago Bulls, which wasn't just Michael Jordan, by the way.

And I have the utmost respect for Michael, but I never thought I was playing Michael Jordan. I was playing the Chicago Bulls. But let's not, you know, everybody say this person was a bad man and all that. Well, yes, I give them respect. but I got a setup. I'm a man, and I was a bad sonbits too. So that's how I look at that, and that's who I am. Maybe in my older years, I can call it that bluntly, but I'm just calling it like I see it. That's the second time I've heard it.

Yes. That's a third time I've heard it. I don't know what the hell he's saying. Well, I do know one part of what he's saying. first of all he brags about himself which is okay yeah he's a bad man he says I don't think that's out of the ordinary he was a bad man

he's one of the greatest power forwards ever to play one of the greatest players ever to play the game and maybe one of the top two or three power forwards ever to play the game yes okay one of the all time leading scores he accepted responsibility

for the ball being stolen from him mm-hmm the rest of it's a blur I mean, he said The part about I wasn't playing Michael Jordan I was playing the Bulls. I think that's a point that a lot of people are making. It's a good point is that you were playing Michael Jordan

and that's what we remember. And we say six championships and we just live in this age or I guess maybe it was always like this where we give one player the credit for all the championships. But it takes a team to win a championship. And I think that's the point Carl Malone

was trying to make there is that it wasn't just Michael Jordan. You're talking about Scotty Pippen. You're talking about Denny. Dennis Robben, both Hall of Famers. You're talking about the greatest coach of all time, arguably, in Phil Jackson. You'd say what? Him and a Red Aroback, I guess people would argue. So, I mean, it was the Chicago Bulls that beat the Utah Jazz, not Michael Jordan.

How many titles did the Bulls win without Michael Jordan? That'd be zero. How many could they have won? I don't know. Probably none. So it's a lot of Michael Jordan. Well, he went away, and they won 55 games and made the conference semifinals. So they were pretty good that first year.

Yeah. But when it became time to have their most valuable player on the court, he said, no, I'm good. Scottie Pippen, yeah. Yeah, they wouldn't. But I think they wouldn't have won. If I take Scotty Pippen off there, how many championships do they win? I think they win probably one or two. That's certainly not six.

Nope. And then what's Michael Jordan's legacy then? Is he the greatest of all times? not the greatest of all time. You know, maybe Pippins helped that. These are great, great debates. Yeah, I think so, so let's go back to,

when I say to you, Michael Jordan, what do you think? His response was, Michael Jordan. Yeah. He's a, he's crotchety old man. You look at this thing. He looks like a...

First of all, he's got a nice, frothy beard going with a lot of graying. He's got the Illini-Lovie Smith thing going on, look going on. Yeah. With a gray beard. He, and when I used to live in you, Utah, we would have sound bites in our audio system of strange answers to strange questions.

He's, I don't know if he necessarily, uh, comprehends what is, what is being asked to of him. You think he was drunk? No. I just think that he's got like he, his clock moves a little differently than the rest of ours. I think he was upset about the question because when you say, what do you think when you hear Michael Jordan? He probably hates Michael Jordan. What he wanted, or hate, what the interviewer probably wanted him to say is, that's the best guy ever went against.

Yes. I don't think Carl Stone's to say that. Maybe Carl is just, yeah, I mean, he's bitter. He's not going to say that. He's crotchety. He was kind of an A-hole in his playing days. Yeah. And he held on to Clyde Drexler's shorts during that winning shot.

Yeah, he was dirty and crotchety. Is a flopper? And a-hole. Major flopper. One of the last dance in that flop-off between him and Dennis Rodman. Oh, my gosh. The best part is that nobody got called for anything. They just kept running into each other and falling down.

Like it was a comedy skit. Yeah. Could play it one more time. And then Joe, you can, before we go to break, you can an oral interpret this because I know you're a good oral interpreter. Here is again, Carl Malone, the minute of the interview that never got a part of the last dance because Carl's like, don't you put me in that? So when I say the name Michael Jordan, what comes to mind? Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan.

Like, what else I need to say? Thank you. Go ahead. to talk to me about the game six finals in Utah when he stole the ball. Why? Why do I have to? But I tell you this, I'm all man, and I accept the responsibility for not winning more, and we was there. We just happened to be playing the Chicago Bulls, which wasn't just Michael Jordan, by the way. And I have the utmost respect for Michael, but I never thought I was playing Michael Jordan. I was playing the Chicago Bulls, but let's not, you know, everybody say this person was a bad man and all that.

Well, yes, I give them respect. But I got a setup. I'm a man, and I was a bad son bitch too. So that's how I look at that, and that's who I am. Maybe in my older years, I can call it that day. bluntly, but I'm just calling it like I see it. Joe, he reminds me of asking a question to your grandpa, and no matter what you ask, he's got an answer that may not match your question.

Yeah, I don't understand. He sounds like a total old man D-bag. Like, I'm glad he wasn't in the documentary. He says, does he say, I got a set of him? Yes, he does, because he's claiming he's a man. Oh, okay. Again, that's a minute of my life. I don't know if I'll ever get back.

Three, we played it twice. Okay, so three minutes in my life that you as the audience will never get back. It was just a weird little, it was a weird back and forth. Would that be safe to say? Yes. The question was off-putting to him. It was like, I don't care about Michael Jordan. Screw that guy.

Yeah, exactly. No, it's Carl Malone. It's Carl Malone. All right, 713, 212-790. Ross, you weren't working sports back then, but we hated Carl Malone. Hated. I hated Carl Malone watching the Rockets play. God, he was a flopping machine.

I hated him. John Stockton and his short shorts. I had Carl Malone on my show one time and I asked him about what happened on that last play, what he was doing. And he was like, yeah, I was just blocking out. And then I had Clyde on like five years later. He was holding my shorts. I couldn't get out there to go guard John Stockton because I was being held down molested by Carl Malone. But I'm not bitter.

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So it may not, it's not funny or interesting. It's just really bizarre. So I'm going with that. I don't anticipate my being the best story, but it was just, we're seeing some really crazy-ass people doing COVID-related crimes, and I thought I'll bring one up on the show today. Joe, George, our esteemed producer, for at least a few more weeks, does a horrific job of finding stories on a week-in, week-out basis. I'll say this, Matt. Earlier you described it as unmemorable. I completely disagree. I think people will never forget non-flora stories from May 14th last week. So he's saying, in a lifetime. Any publicity is good publicity,

says Joe George. Basically, I'm saying it was unforgettable content. Was it good content as a question. Right. But it was unforgettable. So where is your non-flora story from this week? Korea. Is it involved the KBO? No. It does not.

Does it involve the Dusan Bears? It does not. They're winning right now. Okay. So non-flora stories coming up at 2.30 this afternoon. I cannot well, I can say that my it'll be purely average. Ross usually does above average, and then Joe's very much a mixed bag, mostly on the disappointment side. 713-212-5-7-9. If you'd like to get in on the show this afternoon,

7-1-3-212-5-790. Through Twitter, you can reach out to us at SportsMT, at SportsRV, and at Joe George Radio. We mentioned some of the headlines the day. We mentioned Game 6. The movie last night was good. We just finished off oral interpretation with Carl Malone. Ultimate tag, which I thought was a major, major disappointment. Again, I gave it 20 minutes. Bill Barnwell's grades didn't do so hot. And Chipper Jones is not very ecstatic about the future baseball. That's a shame.

Not a lot of positives out of those bad boys, right? Yeah, thanks for bringing us all down, Matthew. Let me give you one more. Okay. East Carolina. Now, not a juggernaut. The Pirates? The Pirates of East Carolina.

Can you name the city in which they're in? That would be Dublin. Dublin, North Carolina. Yeah. Agree, disagree, Joe George, that East Carolina University is in

Dublin, North Carolina. False. That's correct. X gets a square. It's in Greenville, North Carolina. Oh, I'm close.

Okay. So, they're dropping sports. They're dropping... Completely? Four of them. Okay. Now,

there has been a rash of sports that have been cut. We're talking about tennis, golf, softball, I think a couple of cut baseball. I think there's a total of 16 different sports

over a variety of Division I institutions have closed out sports. Soccer, I think's been a couple of them as well. Do you, and this is where you've got to be brutally honest with the audience here. I'm here to bring the brutal honesty. Do you go with Dems the brakes? Or is this a sad sign of future athletics

to come in college sports? Sad sign of future to come, at least immediate future. Perhaps in years, some of this will be able to come back, but I think a lot of these schools, especially smaller schools, are the majority of the ones that we're hearing about.

Yep. They're going to have these types of issues, and those teams are going to have to go away. It's going to be for a year or two years or forever. That will remain to be seen, but I think this is not going to be the last story that we hear about mid-major. So, yeah, that's fine. That's fine.

So why do you think it's sad? Well, just because, I mean, there are people who are getting scholarships because of these sports, and there are people who are their families want to see them, and it's an opportunity for them to say, I mean, you know, if you're not going to go pro in something, you can say for the rest of your life, I played Sport X at Eastern Carolina University, and that's cool. Like, that makes you, I mean, we talk about and make fun about people who are like on the bench of an NBA team.

Right. You make the NBA, that's cool. Yeah. You get a scholarship to play a sport. That's cool. Like you met and your daughter, if she played, if East Carolina was like the only program that offered her a full ride to play volleyball. Go.

Exactly. Later. And that would be great. And you would be so proud of her, wouldn't you? Absolutely. Go pirates. Yeah. So it would be awesome.

But then's the break. So while we never discuss... There is a Dublin, North Carolina, by the way. Is it really? Okay. We never discuss softball and track and field and men's golf teams. Right. There is a certain bit of...

And this is probably just falling on hard times because football and basketball becomes such a big business. But there's a certain notion of athletic departments that are vibrant to a university. And while football and basketball pay the bills, there is a certain level of, of, alums, administrators, university presidents that love the fact that they're a well-rounded athletic program. And I think what happens here, now I wouldn't have said this 20 years ago as a younger person, but I think this is a sign, and we talked about us a little bit on the show yesterday, this is the next sign of maybe football and basketball separating themselves in the NCAA in creating

some sort of their own institutions of their own minor leagues and just putting the names of the schools on top of it. I mean, and they can pay the players? Well, I don't even know. But it's just the spirit of competitive athletics at the collegiate level goes away with these smaller things going away, right? Would you say that would be fair to say? Yeah, I would think so.

The one thing, and I remember many years ago having a conversation with an athletic director, I said, man, nobody cares about softball. Nobody cares about golf. Nobody cares about track and field. And in theory, they're probably right. No one's ever, in the history of this show, no one's ever called said, Matt, what's going on with Rice's track and field program? I couldn't tell you if I tried. But those track and field people, first of all, have graduation rates, and they do very, very well.

And those people go on typically because they got the free ride and were able to compete, they had done something good in their life, they usually go on to get their degrees. And they usually are very proud of the fact that they were a track and field athlete or they were a golfer or they played a, they were a gymnast. And they're the ones that are going to be easier to go to down the road to go help endow scholarships and give donations to the university or to the athletic department. It's just the truth. You'll get some of your greatest donations. Do you know how proud even those U of age golfers are? Even to this day that have made millions of dollars playing golf, Freddie Couples still loves the University of Houston. Freddie Couples has made hundreds of millions of dollars, right, between golf and endorsements.

But he's still very proud of his days as the University of Houston golfer. And that's where I think you're going to lose. some of that, is that those types of programs are the ones that are more apt to fund a scholarship program that are more apt to make a donation than you would think than professional football players or basketball players who make 50 times what those people make and yet don't. Yeah, I get that. That makes sense. Like, let's be brutally honest. How many NBA players, how many, and I don't know the answer to this, but how many, Blake Griffin, how much has he contribute to the University of Oklahoma since he's left and played in the NBA?

I don't know. I know that Kevin Dorend has given a lot to UT. That he has. But those stories feel like they're not nearly as common. I don't know what P.J. Tucker has given to UT. I mean, is Russell Westbrook given a dollar to UCLA? Don't know. I don't know.

Is James Harden given back to Arizona State? But I bet you, if we went and looked at the University of Arizona. He's made some deposits at University of Arizona State. We're talking about cash. Oh. Sicko. that I bet you that there are more contributions to Arizona's scholarship program than any other and the overall academics or, you know, endowment of scholarships for University of Arizona

than maybe anybody ever played football or basketball there. Yeah, that's interesting. And that's the only thing I'm saying. Again, it's not one of those things that everybody should be boo-hooing that a certain number of programs, but that's the tangible effect of these lesser-known programs. I would imagine they would come back, though, soon. And maybe under a different structure, maybe this structure of football and basketball subsidizing everything

isn't really, shouldn't be the way. Yeah, I think a lot of these schools are going to have to go to like the more the Division III model of your scholarships are going to be based on your academics. And if not, you're paying. Or they're going to have to create separate subconferences within the big ones. For instance, there really realistically should be no reason why, The American Athletic Conference has baseball teams. Should East Carolina have to travel up to Temple to play to play Houston?

My guess is you could stay in the state of North Carolina and play eight to ten softball opponents and just call that a little mini-conference. I think you're going to see a massive restructuring in the non-revenue sports. So you still have it. Yeah, that's very possible. And you keep your cost lower and you also shrink up the scholarship sizes a little bit. Again, you always got Title IX to fight with it as well. Yeah, that's going to be huge. Okay. I just wanted to bring that up because it's now becoming much more prevalent.

More Division I schools are cutting the non-revenue sports. 713-212-5-790 if you want to get in today. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Did we miss any Tim Kelly sound bites on the show? Because you guys played more on the afternoon show than we played in the midday, right? Because it just finished up. What were our takeaways to Tim Kelly as the offensive coordinator at what he spoke? Genius.

We'll find out. When me, we'll play the favorite soundbite of them all from yesterday's press conference next. 143 on Sports Talk 790 again 7-1-2-5-790. Yo, this is Bun B, and my wife is the biggest fan of the whitest man in America. Matt Thomas, Matt Troy. Reckless, ratchet, and don't give a fuck. What makes you decide songs for the show? I'm just curious.

there's a rotator that we were instructed to play like three months ago huh it's funny we share a lot of audience with classic rock stations but not the bridge matt so back off the bridge it's great 148 on sports talk 790 713 212 577 1 3212 570 710 top of the hour let's get into do you want to try Ultimate Tag again? Is there anybody? Did anybody watch it?

I did not watch it. I gave it 20 minutes. Maybe that was not enough. Are you never coming back? No. Ever? No. That's unfortunate.

Will you ever watch it again? Probably not. I didn't watch it. I'll give it a shot. Watch it next week so we can. Is it a replay coming on somewhere? I'll DVR. I'm sure it's on Fox 6 or something.

26? No. Like Fox On demand. On demand. Oh, FX or FXX? Yeah. It looks like it pulled 4.5 million.

Ooh. What does that compare to everything else that was on? The Jordan Dock was like a 5-3, right? You got 4.5 million people on Fox to watch that show? That's what it looks like. Is that good? They probably were happy about that, right? I would think they're really excited.

Unless, I mean, what was it going against? nothing. Oh, well, then... There's nothing on right now. There's no new television coming out because... Mike, no American Isle or anything like that was on or anything? I think that's a voice. Oh, by the way, speaking of a stupid Fox show and John will get to you a second.

I caught a glimpse of this mass singer thing. Oh, it's terrible. So bad. So bad. And every time it trends on Twitter and I'm like, what is happening? Because people are guessing it's like, I'm like, why is Gladys Knight trending? So, buddy, mine. I figured she was dead.

and it turns out buddy of mine can't watch is the mass singer uh-huh and he said there was one episode where the mass singer was barry zito of the san francisco giants oh really is he a good singer i who knows there were four people that were like the celebrities that had to decide who this person was and they didn't guess who it was the the person took his mask off or whatever the little costume is and they said hey it's barry zito of the san francisco giants Yes. If Barry, if five men walked in this room, all about the same size, height and weight, and said one of these five people is Barry Zito, could you pick him out? He had like floppy hair, right?

Okay. Does he, is his haircut the same? I give you five men of roles with his short stature. If they all have floppy hair on out. Flappy hair. I've got no shot. If they all have the same haircut on out. Okay.

So here's my point. There's no way that four celebrities. or five or whomever were judging that thing could have possibly have known that was Barry Zito. Like how many people

are face recognizable in Major League Baseball in 2020? 10? 15? Altuve? Because he's short. Aaron and Judge? Aaron and Judge.

Mike Trout. Is Mike Trout is Mike Trout face recognizableable? I think so. That's a cuspur for me. Okay. Continue on. Face recognizing.

recognizable. Brady. I'm talking baseball. Oh, baseball only? I mean, uh... Well, hell, athletes is probably... Bryce Harper? No.

I think Bryce Harper would be. No chance. He's everywhere. He's on TV a lot. Problem with him is facial hair, though. What about Bregman? Nope. No, Brugman's... My point is there's less than five baseball players

that are face... It's not a lot. So they are... Not only it's a bad TV show, but they're lying to you, these people knew who Barry Zito was. Apparently, we're... in him like, Barry, it's so good to see you again. There's no chance that one of the judges, one of those 80s pop stars, had any idea who Barry Zito was.

Jenny McCarthy is a host, Robin Thick, Nicole Scherzinger, Nick Cannon and Kim John. Nicole, what's her name? Scherzinger. You think Nicole's Scherzinger know who's Barry Zito is? She was in the pussy cat dolls, right? Yes. That's a pure, yeah. Do you think Nicole knew who Barry Zito was?

No. No. She had no clue. It's a bad show and it's a scam. I, so they used to always have promos for it during like Fox or whatever. Right. And one night I thought it was, I actually went. So when there's like, when there's basketball and baseball or football going on,

I put two TVs. I take my, my bedroom TV, put it in my living room and watch both. And one night, I thought that Thursday night football was going to be on Fox. So I put it on Fox on one TV and then I put, I think it was, you know, NBA on TTV, the other word. Right. And the mass singer was on and I was kind of just not paying attention. and I thought it was a promo. And then like 15 minutes later, I'm like,

this is the longest promo ever for the Mask Singer. This show sucks. And it turned out it was a Wednesday. And apparently, like, Drew Carey's done it before. Oh, really? Yeah, Gronk was on it. I saw. If you all watch Mask Singer and you want to defend the show,

we're here for you. But so far, Fox, you're O for two. Like, is there a Fox show not named Fox football that you watch? I'm done with idols on ABC, so that's over with. I watch. Simpsons. I don't watch any of the new ones. I'm waiting. Anyone? I'm out. I'm out too. Out.

John and Bear Creek on 790. Hi, John. Hey, how are you doing, sir? Good. Thank you. Hey, on your sports that don't have any revenue. I'm a bowler. Bowling, of course, has no revenue. In the colleges, it's actually a club sport. Mm-hmm. But the female, the women, if it's an NCAA school, can be a full-ride scholarship sport because of Title IX. Right.

So, I mean, even though it's a non-scholarship sport for the guys, it is a Title IX sport for the girls. Yeah, and same could be said for beach volleyball. I mean, there are going to be some of those weird ones that have college beach volleyball. Oh, yeah, oh yeah. LSU's got a really good school. Oh, I bet they do. Thank you, John, for the phone call. I've watched it.

I appreciate it. Yes. And if my daughter wants to play beach volleyball to get my scholarship so she can pay for college that way, I'm all for it. You just want her in full school. I am not hiding. I need my daughter to go get a call. I have to, I've already paid for, I'm already paying for one kid. I got another one coming up here in a couple of years.

Dad needs a break. I didn't go-fund me account for college volleyball. I knew a girl in high school who had scholarship, but she was on the bowling team, and she had college scholarship offers. Do you know who's got a really good bowling team? I think it's Ashley Williams, I think Sam Houston State's got a good bowling team. She had offers from like Kansas and somebody else, Missouri maybe. Anyways. I love bowling.

I haven't bowled probably in a decade. Bowling is great with three things. Yeah. Frito pie, cold beer, and cigarette. I'm a big bowler. I don't even smoke. Yeah, one of the last times I got kicked out of the alley

at the student union at UT. Can we have a bowling team, a 7-90 bowling team? Sure. I'd be terrible. I'd be fun. I'd be fun. I just try to chuck the ball

as quit as hard as possible and hope for the best. I mean, just give us a reason to get drunk once a week. With no spin. I throw a straight knuckler down there. All I would say is, in the hundred times in my life I've bowled,

I think probably 75 of them have been with a beer in my hand. and I feel like I'm a better bowler as the more I drink. It's like beer pong. The more you drink, the better you are. Because you're more competitive. You're thinking, this is a dumbass game, just rolling a ball down and having pins. But if you've had a few beverages and you're buzzing a little bit, you want to knock them some bitches down.

Yeah, we used to go to the bowling alley in Austin, too, because they didn't really card. That's a good reason to go. So we would be like, you know. Yeah. It was, of course, you know, one day before my 21st birthday. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. We just go to the West Houston Bowl all the time on Fry Road.

Go get some chili cheese fries and a beer. Chili cheese fries. Maybe one beer at the age of 17. Do you even operate a bowling alley and you don't have chili cheese curly fries? By the way, you would think bowling alleys with this COVID would be an absolute zero chance of our opening. Oh, the shoes? They spray them down. I think they're opening up on Friday, right?

Bowling alleys are opening up on Friday? Aren't they 25% like bars on Friday? But what about cutting the shoes out? They spray them down Lysol. They're already... They're already pretty funked up. Yeah, what's the difference? And the bowling balls are all having to share?

Yeah, you're going to wipe those down. Get some Clorox wipes and some Lysol. You're straight. I feel like if you ever wanted me at a cougar, the best place to do it would be at a bowling alley. No, that's... Well, you want one that's a chain-smoking... Chainsmoker divorcee?

Well, Ross, if your goal was to go find an older woman to hook up with, where would you go? Older bar, like an older bar? Baker Street. pub and the Woodlands. Wine bar. Is it really? Woodlands wine.

So basically anything in the woodlands. Okay. I've heard. Yeah, Joe, don't listen to him. You're a young, newlywood. You don't need to be hearing this kind of material. Well, if things go south, Joe, I'll help you out.

All right, we've officially lost, Joe. He's already in the 18 mode for the rest of the show today. We are going to get him back for a couple of minutes at 2.30 because he's going to tell us about his non-Florida story. 713-212-2-790.

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to issue guidelines for the upcoming season. That would include a couple of weeks of warming up. It would include playing a 70-game regular season schedule, getting everybody to 70 games. It still hasn't decided whether or not they would go to Orlando or to Las Vegas or to both. And they would slowly but surely, starting after June 1st, ramping up the practice

so instead of it being just one guy shooting and one guy catching his baskets and going them, that maybe having a little bit of drills here and there. So it feels like the collective sports universe and basketball has now taken the lead about resumption of play where it felt like just the other day, it was baseball's turn to take the lead. Well, if they want a race mat and each be done as quickly as possible,

I'm okay with that. But yeah, I'm with you. We felt like, what was it last Tuesday or whenever it was? Right. When the proposal went on the table to the players union, We're like, hey, something might happen by the end of the week.

We're even optimistic. Something might happen in a day. And now we're into about a week and a half where things have been happening. And apparently, basically, the proposal was rejected by the players. And they're currently reworking with obviously one of the big sticking points being the revenue sharing. And all I would ask for Major League Baseball is to not let it get to become a media fight. Don't have owners tip off things to national guys. Don't have Players Union tipping off things to the national folks.

because all it's going to do is going to piss us off. Yeah. Silence may be golden in this particular case. I think on both sides, yes. It'll be interesting to see. Hopefully it's not ugly. It's just going to create bad blood. It's going to be,

you're going to lose with each other. You're going to lose in the court of public opinion. There's just no winning if this draws out and if any of it gets out publicly. All right. So here's what the NBA is assuming. And this report came out, I think a little bit was yesterday, but just to recap things. The NBA is doing a step-by-step plan for resumption this season.

Taking two weeks, get everybody back to their respective teams. Okay. Like Luke Dodgers, I think, is overseas right now. Oh, is he? Yeah. Can he get back in? I don't know. So get everybody back to your squads in your home gyms practicing.

Next would be then one to two weeks of individual workouts, then a two to three weeks of a formal training camp, then deciding by the. end of June to get into a building for maybe the middle of July, whether it be Orlando or Las Vegas or your home court. I mean, I think everything is up for conjecture and then trying to finish out the season that way. The only thing that I have heard that has been absolutely consistent is that we know fans, the rest of this NBA season. And I think that's not a surprise. Yeah, I think it's just makes it, it's kind of easier for them in the way that they've gotten

the majority of their season over so they can kind of say, you know what, let's just take it easy. I think you're talking about baseball, which hadn't even started. They would want to have fans eventually. Football is already talking about having fans. And because the NBA, I mean, each league is kind of in a unique position. You have, it's almost like porridge. You have one that was stopped in the middle. You have one that is supposed to be started, it's not going. And then you have one that got their whole season in, and they're waiting until September. And then there's, they're all in different time. And there's actually a little bit of uncertainty

whether they should be starting when they are should be starting. They're all in different timelines, so I would say definitely NBA seems to be on the front burner for them because they're just so close. They're much closer to their finish line, obviously, than the other two. All right. Staying with the NBA, you know there's one major NBA player that has not seen the last dance yet. Well, I know Jeff Van Gundy said he didn't watch it. Well, he didn't want to live it.

Right. James Hardin has not seen it yet. Okay. Quoting him, I just can't wait to watch it. I want to see the ins and ounce of everything because at the end of the day, I'm a competitor, and I want to see what those dudes were going through. What's he been doing? Well, that's what I want to know.

Was he waiting to binge? Do you think he's a binge? I don't think he's a binge watcher. Yeah, he just gets in bed with like a little popcorn, gets on his phone, and then just hits play. There's no way he was going to watch anything live. But he's also someone that's not going to wait several weeks, especially if his buddies are talking about it. So I am very, very curious as to what he would be doing, not necessarily on a Sunday night, but just like on a Monday at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, I'm a little bit on my DVR.

What I got? Look at those last dances. I should watch those. Yeah, because Onyx is closed. I don't know. What? You assume it's all he does to go to strip clubs. Not all he does.

There's a lot of videos of him working out. The man's jersey is retired in a strip club, okay? That's allegedly. You know, they don't retire jerseys. He put it up in the rafters with a couple of thongs. Yeah, he's been working out. I mean, he's not working out Sunday from 8 to 10 o'clock. Yeah, I don't envision him being in front of a television at any clock like all of us have done doing.

Maybe he's making his hello fresh dinners for him and his girlfriend or something. He was also, Hardin was asked about the resumption of the league. He said he would play games without fans, but he would feel comfortable returning when the pandemic has, quote, calm down all the way to a minimum. What does that mean? I don't think he knows what that means. Because if we're not in a minimum right now, right? That'd be safe to say that we're not in a minimum right now.

No, we're not. When are we ever going to be done a minimum? It won't be in the next 60 days. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what James Hardin's definition of a minimum is. I think honestly, he's just thinking, I don't want to come across as, hey, look at me. I'm ready to go play basketball, and I don't care that a lot of people in this country are getting sick.

That I think he's got to think the right thing to say would be, hey, let's be responsible, let's go play basketball, and let's show the world that we can do this in a safe environment. He doesn't want to come across as, well, I got to go out there and play because I got to get paid. And I think basketball players, generally speaking, have been that way. There's been a lot of, has there ever been any one word from an NBA player about money? Now, it's obviously the overriding factor on this, but even Chris Paul hasn't said anything about that. No, I don't think so. I mean, where Blake Snell and Bryce Harper haven't hidden the fact that a lot of the reason why they would come back is if they were to get paid what they're supposed to be paid for a pro-rated season.

And you already have revenue sharing baked into whatever is going to happen with the NBA because they do do revenue sharing. So I believe it is a 50-50 split. Yeah, and we talked about this earlier. Like the situations are so different. the NBA players have already been paid for 65 games. And if you now say, okay, well, the rest of your checks are cut in half, what's the big deal, in all honesty? Like, it's not like your full season of checks is being cut into a third or 25th,

like Blake Snow was trying to explain. They must be, they must be told by their union that if that television money does not come in, that's going to affect the salary cap for the future years. And then that would be a big factor, right? because isn't the salary cap based on the revenues that are brought in by the league? Yes. So if you sign... The salary cap for this year is already set, though.

I'm talking about next year. There's going to have to be a special agreement. Because if you're going to come in and dramatically less money because of what happened with the China situation and this, you're going to have to do some serious shaving of payrolls, right? I would think so. But I think a lot of that has to be grandfathered in, right? Again, this is economics over our head. Yeah, don't they have some kind of clause?

Some kind of, not pandemic clause, but natural disaster or doomsday clause or something like that. A few more things from Hardin's CNBC conversation. He says he's been staying in shape by doing a lot of cardio. Same. Hardin says he's been working out at local parks, basketball courts, and keeping track of team matters through Zoom. Hmm. Hardin also says he's intrigued with the business. angle of the last dance as it details all the stuff the world doesn't know that comes with this

basketball stuff. So could James Harden be getting a film crew together and watching his life? Yeah. Seems like something James Hardin would do. James Hardin productions. I'd watch it. James Hardin working out. It would be James Hardin infomercial, just like that was a Michael Jordan infomercial.

Here's one of the great unknowns for me about James. look, we're on the same plane together. We're sometimes on the same bus. We're in the same arenas. And I sometimes see him in the lobby of a hotel, but I don't really see him anything beyond that. I don't know if his sleep habits are 5 a.m. to noon. If he goes to bed as soon as we get to the city that we're in,

you know, there's always this interpretation out there and the speculation that goes on in clubs. I mean, that could be very much true. Or it could be more fiction than fact. I've always said it feels like, James does. You know how some people need eight hours of sleep a day? I don't know if James does that. I think James could be fine at four and a half.

I mean, Michael Jordan was like that. Yeah. Famously. Let me tell you something. You guys would watch 24 hours of James. I would watch it. Yeah, I would watch it. For sure watch it. I don't know how much. He's going to give us full access to all of everything you do. And I guess that's the only problem with players

that run their own documentaries is that if you're going to go say, all right, hey, I think I want to do something very similar to what Michael Jordan did, if Michael put his index finger on anything on this show and said, this is not going to meet air, then it really truly isn't a documentary. But I think for the most part, people don't care about that. I think if you ask most people, hey, are you bothered that Michael Jordan had his mitts on this documentary?

They would probably say no. That we still saw so much inside stuff on Last Dance that it was way more so that we'd ever seen before about a team as they were going through a season. Yeah, it was compelling. It was good. It was well done. I liked the multiple timelines merging and all that. type of stuff.

But I think there is still a footnote that it had a slant one way to it. Because if you do a documentary about yourself. Yeah. And there are some things that you don't want out there and you give up that control, they're not going to be there. You're going to be embarrassed. Like 24 hours of sports RV. That's going to be boring as hell.

There's probably three or four hours you wouldn't want out there. I mean, yeah, if you just want to watch me get in Wikipedia holes at 2 a.m., I don't think it'd be that compelling. I'm just saying. I think that maybe we need to redefine because they're not documentary, because documentaries you would think would be just right down the line,

open and honest. They're productions by players that want to give you the inside track of things, but maybe not give you everything and maybe try to create an agenda for a particular way. The sports RV 24th documentary, let me do it.

You don't get control, but I film everything. Sports RV, boring as hell. 214 on the Matt Thomas show. We're 50 minutes away from non-Florida stories. Joe George says he's going first. Hopefully he won't embarrass himself. 713-212-5-790.

If James Hardin would do something like that, I think we'd watch, what other athlete today would you want the behind-the-scenes of? Let's throw out a few names. We'll do that and come back. A few other names of current people you'd like to see document their life. we'll each come up for two or three next. 713, 212.790. This is Craig Vigio.

Vigio. Back to Matt Thomas on Sports Talk, 790. Oh, we're having some fun. You're home of the Stroes. 219 on Sports Talk 790. I decided to change my non-flora story. It's non-COVID related. It's just hard to laugh about COVID.

It just is. So we're not. Okay. But mine is going to come out of Tennessee. Tennessee. A Tennessee Steakhouse is the team is on that. Okay. All right.

So if James Hearn is curious about doing something like this for his life or at least a season, who else out there? I'll throw out 10 names. You guys tell me yes or no. Would you be interested? Tiger Woods. Yes. Of course. How forthcoming would he be?

Is Eland going to be interviewed? Is this like an assumption? No, I think we would. I think we would have to do it in a day in the life of. Oh, Day of the Life? Mm-hmm. Well, I want to hear from Eland. I want to hear from Lisa Ann.

You're not going to hear from either one of those. You're going to watch Tiger Woods, get up in the morning. I would put it in a character like the end of the show 24, 24 hours. 24 hours with Tiger. His whole story is going to be. There will be a documentary room, I'm sure. Oh, absolutely. But who's going to be allowed?

Will Tiger ever interview himself over this stuff? Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question. He probably didn't want to talk about all that. I think Tom Brady's an absolute yes. Guys, 47 years old. Imagine being 24 hours and haven't decided what to tell New England, thanks, but no thanks, and then having to decide he wants to play for Tampa Bay.

Didn't he have a Facebook series that was on him? That's when he was making out with his son, and it was very awkward. And ESPN actually just announced they're doing like a nine-part docu series. Nine parts? On Tom. Okay. So somebody's stolen our bid on that. It's fine.

How about Nick Sabin? I will say yes, because I want to know, he's got a staff like 40 people. He's got 40 coaches. He is truly a CEO of a Fortune 500 company, Alabama football. Yeah. I want to know how he runs his eight six to six day or six to eight P day. Apparently he has a lot of little Debbie oatmeal cream pies. By the way, did you hear there is a outbreak of COVID at Bryant Denny Stadium?

in Tuscaloosa. Oh, the construction workers, I believe? The construction workers. Because they're doing expansions. Yeah. That can't be good for getting ready for the college football season. All right. Next up.

John Calapari, the Kentucky coach. Curious how you keep all these first round picks in the classroom, behaving themselves, knowing they've come to Kentucky for one reason and one reason only, to go play to win a national championship. But if you don't win it, you're probably going to be a lottery pick in the NBA draft. John, what are you doing with that? A big envelope. What's in that envelope?

Could be said. Mike Shashefsky would it interest you. Life of one of the most powerful college basketball, like a 24-hour day of. Recruiting phone calls, coaching guys. Wakes up and puts jet black hair dye into his hair. Don't tell that to the missus. She will not get him. He's like 70.

I don't disagree with you. He's got the blackest hair in America. We argued about it. We went to the Duke Notre Dame game this year. I said, man, that dye is looking good. He doesn't die like, you're a lot. Yeah, she does. She doesn't think Coach K dies his hair?

Yeah. He's 73. Yeah. Guys, Justin Verlander, 24 hours and day alive for him. He wakes up in the morning. Oh, how much? He plays golf. What are we getting to?

We've seen a window into his life. We did literally see a window. That was pre-child. That photo was unforgettable. I'm going to say, I think, I'm saying no You don't want to see Justin Verlinder 24 hours No really

What about Kate No I think they're probably really boring Okay So you're saying that you won't even take a small glimpse into the Jake I mean a Justin Verlinder Kate Upton life with baby And after a game of golf And wearing a white belt with khaki shorts

Oh maybe That's what I thought White belts are back Matt They are back I don't think I could pull it off though I don't think I'm white belt guy I don't think you are either Matt That's why I'm not gonna do it

I think JVs is in a rare Like who else could pull off a white belt Justin Timberlake probably could Yeah sure Fashionable young men Let's go a little older Lina under DiCaprio Can he pull off the white belt?

Definitely George Clooney Sure Brad Pitt Well George Clooney maybe not Not George but yes to Brad Okay Joseph Biden

Who? I'd like to see him try. Okay. Yeah, he might try. Donald Trump wore that. Donald Trump or a white belt. There's definitely pictures of him wearing white belt. Let me tell you something. If Donald Trump wore a white belt, CNN would hate it. MSNBC would think it's this awful and Fox News would love it. Hmm. Okay. Okay, so we're, so we're mixed on the JV 24 hours. I'd watch it. I would too. 24 hours

Steve Kerr he's he's not that so much politics be a lot of politics and that bad boy watching MSNBC the whole time yeah

and then Draymond's like constantly texting him during the show do you think so he's like I'm trying to watch Rachel Maddow leave me alone who else is anybody else that you'd like to see 24 hours of in sports currently right now yeah

we've mentioned all the heavy and who's who's baseball's most intriguing character right now. I mean, really, we could say the Astros would be because it would be interested to see what life would be like, like Carlos Correa. I'll give you one.

We hate this guy. Go ahead. Tyler Bauer. He's probably, he's like building drones and doing weird stuff and playing with sticky, looking for spin rates and trying to make a dark like an hour into it. Yeah.

I would wonder what kind of weird crap he's up to. Trevor don't call Tyler don't call me Trevor Bauer Are there sports going on this time When we're doing watching these things Uh sure why not No it's an off there Okay then yes

Okay He just watching him sit in front of his keyboard But the problem is this He did an HBO segment with his dad And I didn't watch the whole thing of that I was getting so pissed off at him Why? Because I was like this is no

It was not good or he's just an idiot or Yeah he was an idiot And he was a dork and he has no friends And he was a dork and had no friends by the time he was six or seven years old. Is he married? He's got a girlfriend? Maybe.

How could you put up with him? He's a millionaire. Anybody else that you, in sports today? Now I know that you'd say every Chicago athlete, so we don't even count you, Joe. Because I see a little bit of Russ. Russ is family guy. Russ is talking to his kids before the game. Yeah, that's boring.

So that's really not going to be one of those things that you're going to watch 24 hours. Gordon. It's interesting. Mike Dantone. No, Mike's crosswords. Mike's playing crosswords and coaching. Is he just boring? Would JJ Watt be interesting 24 hours?

You're doing wife stuff right now. He's on FaceTime with his wife. Do you think he's responding to people that said you were awesome on Ultimate Tag yesterday? Maybe. You want to check his tweets? I'll guarantee you Texans Karen could not send enough you're the best. hilarious show, JJ. Seriously, we got about a minute left in the second.

Go look at his tweets and see if anybody responded about, man, you guys were so awesome, can't wait for him. And my guess is their name is Texan something. He retweeted Twitter moments, which talked about Ultimate Tag. Okay. Somebody tweeted, I never thought I'd be so into tag. He retweeted that. And the name of that person was? At Texas for Life.

Somebody's role model. at Jacko 69. Anybody that hashtag Ultimate Tag, he's retweeting them, basically. This show's phenomenal. Not going to lay. JJ Y got me hooked. Yeah, he's retweeted. Anybody that put hashtag Ultimate Tag,

he's retweeted him basically. Maybe I'm missing out on something because to me yesterday it was just overly produced, canned laughter. His brothers hardly said anything. And it just had that cheesy American gladiator feel to it. but you know what guys let me tell you something there's that holy moly show on and ultimate warrior crap that's always on yeah yeah i mean american ninja warrior i'm in the i'm in the minority on this there's got to be in a minority on this there's got

to be a lot of people that love that kind of stuff now i've definitely sat and watched a little american ninja warrior in the middle of the night for no reason and gladdenators have you used to love american glad you watched holy moly yet i don't know what that is well they go on the uh The Putt Putt Course, and there's a bunch of things that kick him off the course. No, I haven't seen that. It's with the Joe Tessator and Rob, and, uh, not Rob, uh, Rob, Doug. Rob Riggle. Riggle.

Yeah. Not Dibble. And they're wearing old ABC Y-Wiwold of sports jackets. Oh, that's cool. It's not good. A little hokey. Yeah. But you know what America is?

America likes hokey television. American loves hokey and remakes. We have, we have American Idol. American Idol. We have The Voice, which are all the same shows, essentially. and then we have the mass singer starring Barry Zito. America's got talent.

America's, yeah, they're all just carbon copying each other. Like this show is carbon copy. A lot of people. That's not true. This is an original. We're an original. A genuine article, Matthew. People are not stealing our segments and our bits and our ideas.

They're stealing ours, but we're the original. There you go. I like to hear that. Ladies and gentlemen, we ask once a week for you to listen in on some stories. I'm using audio this week off a news report from Nashville, Tennessee, because that's why I apparently thinks is the way to win one of these non-Forto stories. It's up next 229 on Sports Talk

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All right, time now for our non-Florida stories once a week. Ross, Joe, myself. We look at stories outside the state of Florida to find weird Usually it's about a rest or weird phenomenons. A couple weeks ago, we had a good one, which I didn't use on a nine of four today, but it was about mannequins sitting in restaurants where you were eating, so you weren't alone.

We've talked about a rest. And in last week's case, Joe George talked about a man, a woman that was eaten by a dog. Yep. And it was gross, disgusting, not fun, not interesting. And it's like, this grisly dog murder is hilarious. This is probably the most nervous I've ever been for a real. Do you want to go first? want me to go first. I want to go first. You want to go first. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you

Joe George Radio's non-Flority Story. We're going to Korea. So we're talking about mannequins with that story, Matt. And FC Seoul, the South Korean soccer club, they decided to add fans to their stadium wearing masks and showing social distancing, but so it seemed like they had fans in the stadium. Yeah. Well, they had to apologize because during the game, fans on social media realized that they were sex dolls and so instead of just buying normal mannequins they filled their stadium with sex dolls and they had signs which apparently which I can't read were in they had adult content on them leading people to like adult content websites so like on these like quasi mannequins they had like go to this website to

look at these people no the way the the story describes it is that it was like insinuating to go to these websites on their signs that they were holding. The mannequins were holding? Yeah. So they put like, they made the mannequins hold signs. I would say like go team. Okay. But they said like go team and they were sending them somewhere else.

All right. Time to play absolute truth. This is where you cannot lie. And I will not judge. Uh-oh. Have you ever been in a spot where you, have you, okay, here's like, I'll make it nice and simple. Have you ever personally seen a sex doll in your life in front of you? No. No. No for me too.

I mean, I've seen that. I mean... I think I know what they are. Like on Kirby Enthusiasm this year, Larry had a sex doll. I heard about one of my brother's frat brothers having to take one around with him for like a week or something. Yeah. I don't think I saw it though. I think like in like entourage they did something with the sex doll once. But that's probably the closest I've ever seen.

Okay. So is there an endgame of your story here? They got fined $100 million, one, one or Wong, which is like $81,000. That's all I got. They had sex dolls, and they had to apologize. So I'm assuming that sex dolls were a lot cheaper than getting manicures. They claimed they didn't know.

What do you mean claim? That's what I'm saying. It says they didn't know that they were sex dolls. They shut their regular dolls, man. I'm calling BS. Okay. Because let's face it, none of the three of us have ever seen one in person, but a male sex stall is going to have genitalia, correct?

Mm-hmm. A female sex stall is going to have genitalia, correct? So you would know as you're addressing them is what you're saying. Correct. And that there would not, a mannequin is built of, what is it, what is a mannequin built up? It was like plastic? Silicon? No.

No, it's on its hard surface. Excuse me? That didn't sound right. No, that's the other ones. Okay. Let's move on. Okay. You know what? I was looking for a little more drama, but you've obviously recovered from last week's just got awful story.

I'll take it. I'll take it. All right. Ross in previous weeks has gone to TV news reports for his non-Florist stories, so I'm going to do that this week. Let's go to Channel 5 in Nashville for this update. Bizarre police report that's going to make you do a double take. No doubt about that. Cops called after a woman in Murfreesboro says she was sprayed in the face with a restaurant water toy and called it sexual assault. New attend tonight. Our Jason Lamb looked into this. Jason, this all happened at a habachi restaurant. Yeah, that's right. And the restaurant says the water toy they were using was just part of their normal act for diners.

They say they couldn't believe it when police showed up and filed this report. The folks at Wasabi Japanese Steakhouse in Murphreysboro say, along with dinner, diners get a show. But now one diner says last night she thinks the cooks here, she thinks the cooks here, showed a little too much of the little guy in the cook's hand. Like the hold of water, just like that. Here's a closer look. You hold the side and I push out, so water come out.

A plastic toy that sprays water made to look like the figure is urinating when its toy pants are lowered. Last night at dinner, Wasabi restaurant admits one of the chefs shot some of the water in the face of one of its customers. He peed on me. Basically. It shot water out of its penis. How's that? Out of its wee-wee area. Isabel and James Lasseter.

Does that make sense? Here on a job from Texas say they were mortified when the chef essentially made the toy urinate water on Isabel. In front of our minor children and grandchildren. They really didn't have a winner, but you got the point. They were so upset they even called the police, citing, assault. It was a sexual style of assault for my wife. Police also noted that. The doll wasn't, well, anatomically correct, but Isabel and James say that doesn't matter.

I mean, just because it didn't have a wing. Just because somebody may cut off that little piece of plastic to say, okay, it's not there anymore. Doesn't change the fact that you're getting feet on. Yeah, I look at. The general manager, Johnny Huang, says he apologizes to the family and that he's never had any complaints about the toy before. The kid like it. They pay the water, they think just a water gun, kind of like a water gun, you know. But now he says chefs will at least ask permission before showing more of the toy boy again.

So far, no charges have been filed, but the family says they are still considering pressing charges. They say they'll make up their mind over the next couple of days, but we want to hear what you think right now. We have a big conversation going on on my Facebook page. page. Just go to Facebook and search NC5 Jason Lamb to weigh in. Rory. Jason, thank. It really didn't have a weiner, but you got the point.

I have found the toy. And? It's on Amazon for $6.49. It's called WeeP, the wee-wee squirting boy. Now, let me ask you this. We've all gone to Benny Hana once or twice, right? Oh, you love it. Ibachi is amazing. Great birthday spot.

Yeah. Did any of you want to I get squirted on during the dinner? No. No. I'm just certainly not sexual assault. What do they call it? Yeah, sexual assault. Let's calm down.

It's a toy. For those of you did not know, the husband-wife, I believe she was missing several teeth, and he had a full mullet. Not that that should matter. I kind of assumed that. Kind of. And that's my non-flora story.

Wonderful. Well, mine's not going to top that. Mine's actually pretty simple. I feel like I go with something sexually slanted every week, and you know what? We're going to back off from that. Why? We're going to keep it clean here on this segment. This is just an interesting story to me, and it's kind of funny.

So there is a pizza restaurant that offers, uh, oh, it just is, where is this even located? I don't know. It doesn't. So there's a-it-does. Nah, it doesn't. Let's just say it's in Iowa. It doesn't. Who cares?

So there's a pizza delivery owner who, uh, was getting an uptick. and delivery complaints and bad Yelp reviews. And he said, well, hold on now. We don't even have delivery. What the heck is going on here? So he checked his listing on Google and apparently they're listed as delivery

by DoorDash. Of course, one of the premier delivery companies. And when he did look on DoorDash, he saw that they had their specialty pizzas listed for $24. Kind of pricing. Well, he sells his pizza, specialty pizzas for $16. So, what he did is he ordered on DoorDash, who was not authorized to buy his food,

he ordered the pizzas for $24. And so they, well, I'm sorry, sorry, there are $24. DoorDash was listing them for $16. So he was ordering them for $16. DoorDash paid him $24, and then he got a free, for his own pizza for free out of the deal. and made $8 per pizza that he ordered. And that's pretty much the story. DoorDash eventually took him off there and they figured it out and they hashed it out.

But while, for that little while, DoorDash listed at the wrong prices and he made $8 off his own pizza. My two friends here use DoorDash and Uber Eats more than I have. I've maybe used it two or three times total my entire life. You guys use it like two or three times a week. Probably. You feel completely safe with everything that you've gone through with Uber Eats and DoorDash. What do you mean?

It's a huge ripoff. They all, they have to upcharge their prices so much. Like if a place offers delivery, I don't understand why people use DoorDash or Uber Eats. For instance, I was in New York. Maybe I met him in this year. And it was like 3 o'clock in the morning. We were out late. And I wanted something to eat.

And I just didn't work out well, but I was going to go get out of subway. So you called the pizza and a pizza hut and then you got food poison and then you scored 38 points the next day? No. I went to go to Uber Eats for a $5. you know the $5 footlong. Yeah. It was $17. I'm like, this is a rip-off.

I'm not doing this. Well, you can look around for things that are free deliveries. But that's what I'm saying. At 3 o'clock in the morning, I'm hungry. I should have just sacked up and bought it. But I just felt like it, like that was being bamboozled by being charged three and a half times for a $5 foot long. Mm-hmm.

So basically, door dash is a way to scam money, basically. It's off what you're saying on your story. Well, they were, they were scamming themselves. Okay. Because they were listing for 16, but they had to pay 24 to the restaurant. So the guy was making $8 off every pizza he ordered for himself from himself. Okay. Well, I'm going to be purely objective on this. I loved my story significantly more than either one of yours.

Well, good job, Matt. We're proud of you. That's fine. I vote for myself for second place then. Yeah. I vote for myself for fifth. I just don't know if I want to be squorted at a Japanese steakhouse. The toy looks harmless.

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This is Russell Westbrook. One thing is for sure, I did not get my amazing style from Matt Thomas. Oh, hammer job! I hope our new producer doesn't play these derogatory statements about me. What do you mean? That's Russell Westbrook said it. Not the producer. Because there's no way in the world Russell would have ever said that about me.

That was before me. He doesn't even know me. I don't know who suggested that liner be made. I'm guessing it's the studio behind me. But they're probably brilliant with great hair. False. Yeah, I suggested that one to Mike Bobie. He was looking for ideas.

It was a good one. It's just great that y'all use me as just a battering ram. We tease because we care, as one would say, Matthew. Tomorrow on the show, we have an anything goes Friday. Yes. It's Friday already? I felt like we had anything ghost call the very beginning of our show. We never were able to recover from that call.

I was confused. It was highly confusing. And then tomorrow we'll have Brian T. Smith with us in the 2 o'clock hour. And then we have the Fantasy 5 tomorrow. Are you going to do some homework on this? Because this is going to take the category again? It's our favorite starting, it's our favorite five rockets that have never met an All-Star team.

In a lineup. And we're going to say whose lineup could beat whose or who's our favorites. Joe, help us out with this. Do we just go, our favorite five, regardless of position? Are we creating a lineup? Creating a lineup. Or are they facing off in a seven-game series? Maybe, you know what,

maybe doing the lineup with two guards, two centers and a forward, or two forwards in a center might be a little. Might be difficult, actually. Yeah, that might be tough. I don't think it would be But it would also limit you from just picking five guards I mean again you guys aside What do you want to do?

I vote The lineup So you say two guards, two forwards In the center? Sure What if it's Bigman? What if I want to stretch five? Well, he's a five

Like say I draft Kevin Willis Kevin Willis is going to be five He was an awesome Was he an also once? Well, he may It was definitely with an My guess is in Atlanta

hockey was an all-star. Omar Oshik, stretch five, definition. He's not a straight. If you mean stretch it out to three feet away from the basket. He can't shoot. Well, put it this way. One-time All-Star. Kevin Willis.

Because here's a problem. We're going to have our judges. They're going to have to decide who wins the game. I think we should do favorites. Who is the most near and dear to your heart? We're not doing basketball skill because they're scrubs. They're not all-star players. we're not doing like who are the best because then I would pick somebody who's really good but I didn't like

you know who wasn't an answer like that isn't part of the challenge of putting together the lineup that would help you win the game because they're all because all 10 of our names are going to be favorites we're not going to hate any of the 10 people that's not true I could bring I don't know like the notice modi units would be good but he's not a favorite okay I mean I don't know Demo is kind of cool all right we're going to do favorites just fly out our favorite favorite regardless of position we brought it up in the first place because we were talking about Mario Ellie and how we loved him and Sam Cassell, Robert Dory, et cetera, et cetera. This is going to test

I think how deep rocket fan knowledge is. Uh-oh. Why are you going to Walt Williams on us or something? Yeah, I'm a little concerned about me being the tied vote. You can, you can, you should have concede to one of the Adams.

No, Walt Williams would be the on the all smoke team. No, with Maurice Taylor. Well, he got busted most most of you're listening. Good afternoon, friend. Most kid and my son went to school a couple of years together at St. Thomas. Oh, is that right?

Yeah. I see Moe all the time. I mean, yeah. This is marijuana infractions are ridiculous. Well, they're not nearly as important. That's what I'm saying is legal in several states in 2020. Yeah. All right.

So we're going to just do favorite five of just of, but they've, and no all start with any team at any point of their career. And Joe maybe will have to cede his vote to either Adam Clanton or Wexler. You know what? Or we can have them both votes. Let's have them both vote tomorrow. We're going to kick you off the voting list. I think that's a good decision. Do you think those boys will be here by

2.30 tomorrow? They're supposed to be here by 2 o'clock every day, so. Well, are they? I'm here, I don't know. Well, they come in your office. The answer is, the answer to that is no. They're supposed to be here at 2 o'clock. I know for a fact they're not.

Oh, did you just throw them under the bus? Wow. That sound you heard was then getting rolled over. Rolled over. Hey, Adam Klan and Wexler, you know. Oh, I didn't say both. Oh. So we've got to guess which one doesn't show up at 2 o'clock.

I'm not answering that. I think I know the answer. I plead the fifth. Is it rhyme? You can show prep from home. It rhymes with Adam. Gotcha. All right.

So what else? What else are we not talked about that is? There is anything else that we have on the list of things we run the gamut of... Do you want the top ESPN headlines? Go for it. Ryan Fitzpatrick is excited to team with Tua and wants to start. That's headline number one. Your thoughts, Matt?

Say that again? Ryan Fitzpatrick is excited to team up with Tua Tunga Vailoa. Not interesting. Johnis Dacompo doesn't know where his Greek freak nickname came from. That's story number two. By the way, Spencer didn't when he just tweeted out, the New Jersey net, the Brooklyn net. June 21st, this is a, he's retweeting us tweet, June 21st, NBA back. He responds, that's just practice.

I heard those last five games at Bubble site start June 15, July 15th. You ready? You all ready for July 15th? Can we say that? I'm so ready. Can we be excited? Can we be, let me, we got two minutes left in the show. Can we be excited and concerned and cautious all at the same time?

Yes. Because I feel like there's a certain segment of the population, whatever the number is, that's just beside themselves that professional sports are coming back. And look, I am completely biased to this. My life revolves around sports. Our jobs revolve around sports. As much as it is fun to talk about the last. last dance, that's only going to battle last you so long. I think the NBA is going to be extremely cautious about what they're going to do

and making sure these gentlemen's lives are going to be as safe and as toxic free as possible, right? I mean, they're not going to send these guys into bubbles and not protect them. And I don't think these guys are going to be running against either. They're not going to be running around at 4 o'clock in the morning doing God knows what because they don't want to infect themselves or their teammates to ultimately cost their seasons. So I'm going to be excited, and I hope that y'all aren't mad at me for that. That if Spencer Denwinney is right, in July 15th is when those bubble games start, I'm all in.

Spencer Dinwiddie. Spencer Dinwiddie from the great state of Alabama has yielded his time on the floor. We do all politics of... It sounds like a distillery. Spencer Dinwiddie Distillery. Fine Kentucky bourbon. Makes the best rye whiskey you can find. Adam Wexler.

Adam Clant, one of them shows up at two o'clock every day. Oneum does not. Find out which one is which. On the A team. And it's next on Sports Talk 7. And I talk to you all tomorrow for anything goes Friday at noon.