The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Good News Desert, Gut Feelings & Meeting Famous People

Episode Date: October 27, 2020

Lunchtime is H-Talmers. Lunchtime is the Matt Thomas Show. 12-01 in H-Town. What's happening to lunchtimmers? Good afternoon to you. And welcome to a Tuesday edition of the Matt Thomas show. On Sports Talk 790 alongside Rossville, Real Brethren Raleigh, I'm Matt Thomas. It is really nice to have you with us.

Guys, I got to be really brutally honest with you. I would like to have Rockets head coach announced, or at least Wodgebaum between now and three o'clock today. Because we just don't have much to look forward to until we get that coach and until the NBA season begins. College basketball is going to start up eventually, but it doesn't resonate a lot in our area. The Texans suck beyond no belief. The Cowboys sucks. So even some cowboy fans can't even call and brag about their team. And by the way, their owner slash GMs losing a damn mind

on radio show. And we'll play that coming up in a few minutes here. Can't wait. So let me ask you this. Oh, one eternal optimist. Yes. What are we looking forward to between now and the end of the year? The Texans redemption tour. If they went out, they'll be 10 and 6.

This is true, but that's not going to happen. There is a 0% chance. You can say, well, no, no, it's 10. No, it's It's zero. It's pretty close. No, I would say it's zero. It's between slim and none, probably closer to none. But it's possible, Matt.

They could flip this thing around. You got them at 7 and 9 at some point. I know, which I feel like a damn fool. Six and 10's only three more wins than that. I think I have to reinvest. Oh, no. You're going to recalibrate again? Go to the schedule again.

Let's just knock this out right now. Might as well, just knock it out. By way, if you'd like to join us today, we are here up until 3 o'clock. We'll have Aaron Reese joined us at the bottom of the hour. and then we've got gut feelings coming up at 1 o'clock this afternoon. Wonderful. Looking forward to that. Well, this week they are facing off against buy.

Okay, so that's a non-game. Okay. So I had them losing, by the way, the Packers. I had them at 1 and 6 going in. Okay. So let's try this again and see if I changed it. Because again, we did this last Monday or Tuesday, and I think I had them finishing at 7 or 9,

despite the fact I had them losing to Green Bay, which they did. All right. At Jacksonville. When? At Cleveland. Loss. Home for New England. England. So that puts them at, okay, one and six, puts them at two and six, two and seven, two and seven home for New England. I will say win. Three and seven.

There you go. Okay. At the Detroit Lions, the middling Detroit Lions, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. 1130 a.m. The Lions are the better football team. But you didn't answer my, you didn't respond on my first statement. I mean, they don't win on Thanksgiving very often, no. But they also don't normally play teams as bad as the Texans. Oh. All right. I'm going to chalk that. was a loss. Three and eight. Home for Indianapolis.

Three and nine. At the Chicago Bears, who did not look... They looked terribly yesterday. I'm going to surprise you and say they're going to go on the road and win that game. Four and nine. At the Indianapolis Colts. Four and ten.

Home for the Bengals? Five and ten. Home for the Titans. Lost because the Titans is going to need the game. more than the Oilers, the Texans will. So 5 and 11. So I have them going four and five of the rest of the way, which still isn't awful. It's almost 500 ball. It's almost. Okay, I am not allowed by rule of the Matt Thomas show to change my opinion about the team. They are a 5 and 11 team at the end of the day, period. That's the last time I'll do this. Yeah, we'll see in a couple weeks. No, I swear to

God, I won't do it. I swear. He says that now because he knows he doesn't have to worry about next week. That's true. You know the reason why they're going to win some games, guys? Because they're not worried about draft picks. Because they don't have it first or second round. You know how teams, they're never going to tell you that they're not, you know, giving up on games and playing different people because they don't want to screw up their draft position. That isn't the issue for the Texans.

So if you love the Texans, if your name is Texans Darlene or Texans Greg or, you know, you know, blank the Texan or Texan for life, you're going to be able to see some wins this year because your team doesn't care about the NFL draft. Yeah, they're going all out, Matt. They want to entertain you. They want to hear football time in Houston a bunch. They want to see the 12,000 people of which half of them are opposing fans from the other team coming to your coming in.

Like, Titan fan's going to lose his lunch inside NRG Stadium. He's going to be so excited. It's going to be 97% Titan fan on Week 17 as they try to clinch on the AFC South but maybe even a buy in the first round. Is there going to be, What are the home games left for the Texans? We just went through it. It's going to be New England?

They're not traveling. There's going to be, or is there going to be more Patriots fans or Texans fans in the building? Patriots. Indianapolis? More Texans. Bingles? More Texans. Titans.

More Titans. So four games left. Really only two home games left with Texans is what you're saying. Technically, it's two games home and two a neutral field. Yikes. That's why we've got to have something. We need something to drop. Can we, I don't have Woja's phone number.

Have we ever in the history of the show had Wojohn? I don't really remember that. That's when he was willing to come on. And he was on the show. Yes. We've had Zach Lowe on the show. This was years ago. This was like early when he had made the Yahoo defection.

And I think Yahoo was trying to put him around and get word out that he was with Yahoo. Because I spoke to him one time face to face. Okay. And this has had to been seven, eight, nine years ago. And I just said congratulations on all your success. Thank you. And he said, thank you. And that was, I mean, it was no more than we were in the salad bar at the media line.

By the way, you know, salad bars are gone? Completely? Well, we went to this restaurant in Annapolis on the weekend after the U of H. Navy game. And I looked at their menu and said, salad bar. Like, man, I love a good salad bar. You get to choose what you want. Oh, yeah. Okay.

And then I walked by it and it's all covered up with wood and plexiglass. So they make the salads for you now. They already had a sneeze guard on it. Yeah. That's good, right? Not in 2020. Here's what we've lost. You're ready.

for this? No. First of all, we've lost our damn minds. That's true. Okay. Then we've lost salad bars and we've lost Chinese buffets. I love Chinese buffets. That's true. There's a Chinese buffet at 59 and exit to... It's a Buffalo Speedway or something? Buffalo Speedway. It's no longer there anymore. What? The one we ate at once? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we crushed that buffet one time. I crush, part of the reason why I've lost 14 pounds in the last four or five months is because I haven't going to any buffets. It's true. It sucks. I miss Chinese buffets. I miss interaction. I miss going to games. I miss concerts. I miss everything. This year sucks.

Well, you're saving, you're not dropping 300 bones on an Elton John concert now, so that's helping you. Well, I actually, my, uh, my mother bought it for my son's birth, middle son's birthday, paid me for a birthday gift and he, we don't, the ton of center is empty. Every arena is empty. Isn't that weird to you? they have been dormant for months. These monstrosities of these beautiful buildings with great concerts and arenas full of sports events and circuses and concerts and convention.

Gone! I hope they don't have like an Astrodome rat situation going on now. No, they keep it clean. Okay, that's good. Seriously, I'm not kidding you. When I was doing the Rockets games, we were broadcasting from the TOTA Center when they were in Orlando.

I went inside the arena. Got some shots up? No, it was completely dark. Oh. No basketball corner of the floor. It was, you, you almost got weepy. Did you? Well, I mean, I was, I was, it, it depressed me a little bit, to be honest with you.

Sure. Okay. Because it's just, and by the way, I asked somebody in the arena industry, not too long ago, I said, when do you think we're going to get concerts back? He goes, probably not until next summer at the very earliest. Now, again, I'm not worried about how Elton John is doing or, or anybody that's out on, He's going to be okay. He's doing just fine.

I mean, I think Carrie Underwood's going to be able to survive. But it's just weird that we would go and people really look forward to going to concerts. Even though you've heard the same songs and you've paid crazy money and you pay a lot for parking and drinking. You still want to go see them. I'll speak for yourself. Last concert, you and I went to was Paul Simon. Oh, man, I nearly fell asleep in that one. Well, I did too.

I thought it sucked. It was fine. It was okay. It was like 80. He could hardly move around. Yeah, it was a goodbye tour. singing great, which you'll have a goodbye tour again. We can't go to that one too?

Can't you go out to the pavilion and go on the lawn? No, Cynthia Woods is doing nothing either. Why can't you get in the lawn and stay six feet apart in the lawn? Have you been out in the lawn? Is it possible to stay six feet apart from somebody? Well, some people are, you know, conceiving children out there and smoking weed. I've never sat in a lawn at Cynthia Woods. Really?

Yeah. I don't even know what it's like. You're so highborn. Oh my gosh. Highborn. You're so fancy. I live a life. I live a lifestyle that deserves to be in a chairback seat.

He's so fancy. How have you never been on the lawn at Woodlands Pavilion? Never. Uh-uh. Are you serious? No, I'm serious. As a heart attack. Oh,

I cannot believe that. Nope. It's fine out there in the lawn, Matt. People are sharing beers, passing dubies, conceiving children. You've seen people have sex out there. No, I haven't seen people have sex, no. But heavy making out. One time I was out there and this young girl came up and started talking to me,

and I was like, all right, this is going well. And then she's like, can you buy me a beer? She wasn't 21. And so that's kind of a conversation. So basically you were out with a young person. No, I wasn't with it. I just met her out there. Oh, okay.

And how long did you ask her age? Well, I mean, clearly she was under 21, and that's when the conversation stopped. Good for you. Game 6, the World Series tonight. You excited? Can't wait. You know what happens tonight if the Dodgers win that besides them win the World Series? A.J. Hinch and Jeff Leno are no longer banned from the sport.

Ooh, that's true. The suspension is over. Hmm. A.J. Hinch is going to have a job within 30 days. Filling my bones. Uh-oh. Do you feel any of your gut? We'll have to find out at 1 o'clock this afternoon.

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The Houston Lunchtime Sports Conversation most respected by head coach Bill O'Brien. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Matt Thomas. In his career here in Houston. Of sorts. The Matt Thomas Show. I don't know if there's another radio show that plays more old liners that don't fit than this one. why don't we get Romeo Cornell with a liner about the Matt Thomas show? He's the interim coach.

Hell, I'll take a Jack Easterby moment on Twitter and just read one of his retweets. We have to find Romeo Cornell saying something about Matt because that was a quote from him talking about him. He was saying I have a tremendous amount of respect for Matt Schaubb. Don't give away company secrets. Sorry, Matt. Just telling you. Yeah.

We know Bill O'Brien doesn't have a tremendous amount of respect for you. No, he has respect for zero people. and thus don't the door hit the hitching the ass. You know what I'm saying? God, it's so good to have him out, but there's just, Rossi, there's so much work to be done. Anybody that thinks this as a quick fix is a fool.

It'd be a quick fix if you had the fifth and 30 second pick in the draft, correct? You could fix pretty quick that way. Dang, that would be nice. If you weren't $15 million over the cap, you could fix this pretty quick, right? That would be nice if they had their draft picks. Oh, I would be, let me tell something. I would be, you're telling me that you have your draft picks,

you fired the coach that never should have gotten the job and had the power that he had, and you're going to bring a brand new general manager and a new coach. Cleanse? Good. Let's go. Instead, you have been saddled with terrible contracts. You have no first or second round draft pick. And the theory that you're going to build to get fat and happy off the trade deadline

probably isn't going to happen, unfortunately. There may be something they'll do. but do you really think they're going to that the Texans are going to be making major headlines between now and the deadline next week? My gut. Ooh, I'll save it for 40 minutes. Oh, dang.

Gut feelings coming up at 1 o'clock. You've had multiple gut feelings already earlier on the show. I have, I just haven't called him gut feelings. I'm not even talking about your post-lunch gut feelings either. That's true. That'll be 1230. Aaron Reese will join us in about 10 minutes from now. Let's go to Wes and Humble on the Matt Thomas show.

Wes, what do you got today? Matt Thomas. Yes, sir. I got something for you to look forward to. Yes. December casino trip. Yes, it's already in the counter, my friend. Good deal.

Hey, how sad is it that in the period of a calendar year, we went from high hopes for basketball, football, sort of baseball, to now football is a disaster and we'll be, we probably trade to Sean Watson in three years. basketball is a disaster right now. We don't have a head coach. And I think Brian Winhorst said John Lucas is at the top of the list. So that tells you all you need to know. And then in baseball, a rookie pitching staff is great,

but now everybody's got tape on them. So they're not going to be as surprising as they were when they decide to play a real season again. It's just, it's been a brutal 2020 and 2021 is not looking good if you're a Houston sports fan. Well, I'll say this. So, Wes, thanks for the call. I don't think it's brutal that you don't have a head coach

for a Rockets team. I mean, you've got to figure out who you want. And I don't know. I still think it's Jeff Van Gundy. I really do, Rossi. Not a gut feeling. I thought he already went to the Pelicans. No, somebody else said that.

God, some things I hear, I just like, God, you're so stupid. Somebody was complaining about Van Gundy going to New Orleans and he should have been here. Wrong Van Gundy. Is this that H-E-B or something? Worse. Okay.

No. Why? It's going to be Jeff, do you think? No, I don't know. I don't know either. I think Stephen Silas is probably going to get it. It's probably really, really, really, really highly thought of.

That's why I would, that's the only reason I have him as my favorite. I mean, I don't. John Lucas' last coach, what, with the Clippers in like 2000? No, Philadelphia, in Cleveland, yeah. Cleveland Cavaliers. See, here's the reason why. LeBron got that. Here's the reason why John's in the mix, okay?

Players like him. Players like him. And Rossi, I've talked about this before, and I'm not hiding anything. That goes a long way in the world in the NBA, more so than any other sport. More, because you're only talking about, in theory, a 15-man roster of which, of those 15, three or four matter because they're the megastars. So you have to keep Star 1 and Star 2 and Star 3 pretty damn happy. and I think that John Lucas would do that.

Also, John Lucas knows the organization better than the other two guys, for sure, about how analytics is now put into play, about what the tendencies are to these teams. And he's also, I mean, I say what you will, I know there's some people out there that aren't the biggest Clint Capella fans in the world, but Clint Capella leaving the rockets to where he first began in becoming a very good, solid NBA center, true NBA center is the work of John Lucas. He can flat out coach. Now, the job as an NBA coach is not just about coaching anymore. It's about massaging egos.

It's worrying about mixing up what the seeing eye test is compared to what the analytics have to say. You've got a report to an owner, a general manager. I mean, it's, you know, it's a, it's a, it's half time and staff psychiatrist, frankly. It's when to practice. It's how long to practice. It's when to stay in a town an extra day. it's when to get the guy as a breather. It's when to tell a guy you're taking a day off.

It's a tough spot. And that's why I think they're taking a lot of extra time because, look, nobody's going to possibly argue the acumen of Jeff Van Gundy is a basketball mind, right? You can't impossibly argue that. In 2020, in NBA, I would. Well, we don't know. That's what I'm saying. But when you watch a game,

when you watch a game that he broadcasts, does he sound like he's behind the times? Absolutely not. In my opinion. He's off topic a lot, but I, I guess. But forget about that. Because part of the reason why he, I mean, he's the number one analyst in the NBA today, would you not say? I thought it was, man, I guess.

Because he's low bar right now. He's funny. He's, he's. Who's the other? Cweb, Reggie Miller. Mark Jackson. He's better than Mark Jackson. You know what I'm saying?

I think Stan was the best. But that's a very small sample size, too. This is, Jeff's been doing this for 15 years. So anybody that says that he's out of touch It's just not right because when you're in the NBA And you're broadcasting games And these sites and you're around these players And talking to these coaches

You are in tune with it If not, you wouldn't be doing what he's doing As the number one analyst on that sport For as long as he has been So that isn't the issue to me The issue is It's different appreciating a player And talking to them before a game

And it's different when the locker room door is closed And you have to conduct a practice or you have to watch a film session or, you know, it's just different. Yeah, and analyst Van Gundy is way different than Coach Van Gundy. When Coach Van Gundy was here, he was just dour and drat. He wasn't very happy, wasn't it? I wasn't here, so.

Yeah, he would just, like, in his press conferences, he just looked like he was always, he had the most giant eyebags I've ever seen in the history of the world, and he looked like he was just up all night and chewing his fingernails off or something. Well, I'll say this. The greatest example to me, and maybe there's others, Dick Vermil was the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles in the late 70s and early 80s.

In early 80s, he would work, he would sleep in his office every day. He wouldn't go home. He was staring at tape for 20 hours a day. And he got burned out. And he said, I can't do this anymore. He came back as a different coach and led Kansas City to playoffs and led St. Louis to the Super Bowl and a victory. Dick Vermeel changed. I don't know if John Gruden has changed a whole lot.

So the question would be, has Jeff Van Gundy been away from the sport long enough that he wants to be, he understands that 2020 ways is going to be different than 2005 ways. If he doesn't and he wants to go back to that, I don't think it'll be a good run. But if he's willing to adapt to the style of what it's like to coach these players both on and off the court, there's no reason why he can't be successful. He's got great basketball argument. It's in the Van Gundy blood. It just is.

I just don't know how many examples there are. I mean, you went to Dick Vermeal. I mean, Joe Gibbs came back after a while and they didn't really do much of anything. They went back to the playoffs. Okay, they were not good, though. It was not a good run. Did they go to the playoffs like once? I don't remember, but he did go back.

Gruden would be the current guy in play right now, leaving the field for several years to go into broadcast and it gets back. And it's been okay in Las Vegas. I mean, they got beat up pretty bad by Tampa Bay, but I still think they're still probably a player or two away from really being contenders, especially when you got Kansas City in your own division. Anybody else that would come in a minute left for a long time came back? I'm sure there's some other examples.

I'm just thinking of one that made... Phil Jackson retired a couple times, came back, but he was never out of it for too long, right? Yeah. Hell, Tony LaRouca's being considerative as a manager of the White Sox. That's just ridiculous. Well, it's once you've had some success, they want you to come back, I guess. So, you know, and again, we'll get to more on that a little bit, but I don't think it's, it's clearly not an easy decision.

I think all three of the candidates have something very positive they can bring to the table, but I think there are some reservations in all three. And until New Orleans makes up, not New Orleans, until Oklahoma City makes up their mind, there's only two spots left. So if you want to be an NBA head coach, this, if this, this, this. juncture, you've only got two spots you could potentially go to. 1227. Matt Thomas Show continues up until 3 o'clock this afternoon. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.

Speaking of coaches, do we even talk about coaching search at this point with the Texans? We'll find out what Aaron Reese has to say, and we'll find out how much interest that he thinks there will be in some of the players that we've been talking about could potentially be traded. Right now, a word for the Shell Federal Credit Union. I am very happy to tell you that I'm a member of the Shell FCU family. What I've done is I went and got a auto loan for my son's vehicle, got him for a 1.99% APR for 36 months. I got that from Shell FCU.

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All right, so, Aaron, if you're going to talk to Tim Kelly in an hour, why don't you say, hey, Tim, you're down two to three touchdowns. Why are you giving the ball to David Johnson in first and second down late in the second half? Is that going to be one of those questions brought up, or is that kind of skipped this week? I actually don't know if the – I need a double-check. I'm not sure the coordinators talk every week, so I don't know if – I don't know if Tim Kelly has to talk to us this week or if he's back to talk and know us on a game day. I think you could ask – you could ask that you ask in general, why are you giving David Johnson from the ball?

on first down. He's pretty miserable at it all season. And, you know, why is Duke Johnson getting one carry in the entire game when he touched it all four other times in the passing game, and I think got like 46 yards off of those four touches? They also released the third string running back yesterday. Is that because they're looking to open up a spot to bring some street free agents in? I mean, what would be the point behind that? Well, I mean, they have a, they still Scotty Phil from the practice squad. He's a guy who they, I think they should give a chance to. I mean, they elevate it to the active roster for, and he was, during training camp, even Bill O'Brien admitted, probably should have given us some more opportunities during camp, but they were kind of so

in, I mean, in fairness, they were, you know, kind of had tunnel vision on the season and this, like, very short and timeline of getting stuff ready. So, didn't really have opportunities to give opportunities to undrafted guys and stuff like that, but I feel like that's the guy who's a great opportunity late in the season. I think they just wanted to, they wanted to elevate a defensive lineman, and so they did that in return, they had to cut a, or running back. Yeah, I don't really understand kind of just continuing to give David Johnson the volume of carries that they are. I looked at this up yesterday. He's only like one of eight running back since 2010 to account for more than 70% of his teams off into snaps and run for less than 3.9 yards per carry.

And only him and Todd Gurley have done it twice. So it's not very good company. Here's the thing, Aaron. I don't need to tell you this. This might go down as one of the worst trades in the history of the NFL. And it's on Jack Easterby and Bill O'Brien's watch. I mean, that's saying something. That's your next story, by the way, at the end of the year. The worst trade in recent NFL history. That's it. You got a score.

You got a column for you're already locked and loaded. Ready to go. You should start typing it right now. Yeah, I'll save it for if they, if and when they inevitably cut David Johnson. Maybe that's the story. I mean, yeah, it's, I mean, it's been a, yeah, I mean, you know, I think what's really bad about it is that, like, it was always looked back. But I think it looks worse every week. Because I think even if David Johnson did have a bounce back,

and he averaged like 4.2 yards per carry, and let's say he gained like 900 yards in the ground, and he had like 400 yards as a receiver. That's still not even close to like accounting for kind of the production they were giving up. And Ross Blacklock, I mean, he's a rookie. I'm not counting about yet. But like, Russ Blacklock has not been a difference maker, you know.

And so the trade looks worse than it even did at the top. time. And that is really saying something because they obviously got killed for it at the time. All right. Let's get to what's going to happen next week, and that is obviously the trade deadline. How active in your mind you're sold do you believe the Texans will be in terms of moving guys to grab, hopefully, some trade assets or some draft assets? You know, I think that they will make a move, maybe two. I don't think that it will be a fire sale or anything like that, which I reported, which is not that uncommon. is, you know, not the sort of business that does that. You know, I think that they probably will try to move one of those receivers. For what I understand, they've gotten more interest to Will Fuller than Kenny Stilt,

even though the price is higher, but that makes sense he's a better player. You know, JJ Watt, for everything, I understand that, you know, they want to get a first-round pick for them if they were going to even consider it. That is not probably realistic value for Watt at this point. I get why they would do it from, you know, kind of the optics of it, parting with the face of the franchise. But I think it's, you know, when you're talking about trading the guy like Watt, That's kind of an ownership decision.

And Aquamire said he has not, you know, asked to be traded yet, despite how miserable he looks in these post-game Zoom. So I think JJ will stick around, but I would keep an eye on whether they can move one of those receivers. And also, they could get something for Duke Johnson. You know, I mean, they're not going to use them. You might as well see if you can get an asset for him. But I think because the lack of touches these ads, lack of production, they've heard his value.

So I don't really know what opportunities are out there for him either. Look, you've not an opportunity to talk to JJ one-on-one because everything has been in Zoom. And this is obviously what COVID has been all about in covering sports. but if you pulled JJ aside and said, JJ, I'm hearing some names or I'm hearing that teams are interested in you. Do you think, knowing him a little that you do, that he'd be opposed to being placed, playing somewhere else the rest of this year? You know, I don't know. I mean, I definitely think there are people who know better than me. I've kind of had one extended one-on-one conversation with him in the two or three seasons I've covered this team.

I think he's obviously sick of this. And my bigger question is, like, is he going to, I guess, does he want to stick around for it next year? Because I think we're going to be looking at a somewhat similar situation next year. And I think that's when he really has to kind of make that decision of whether he wants to just move to a contender and chase a Super Bowl, whether he wants to stick around. Or heck, you know, if he decides, like, you know, I have one more year left after my deal. I'd rather just hang it up now and, like, retire a Texan, but not have to live through the misery of the whole. whole thing. You know, but I think, like, I don't think anyone that's going to fault the guy if he says he wants to get traded. And to me, it just, and he's still productive players. So I think

just retiring doesn't make much sense. He's obviously so competitive. I think, I mean, this is not an insider take or anything. It's just kind of my gut feeling is that he eventually is playing in another uniform. I just don't think happens this season. God, it feels like to me this would be the time because I look you can't worry about what the reaction of the fans are going to be because honestly my guess is about 80% of them would be like you know what j j j we don't blame you if if you wanted to go somewhere else and you wanted to finish up your career because this isn't a quick fix anybody that thinks this is a quick fix is just has zero football acumen you have a quick fix when you have salary cap space and you have plenty of draft picks especially in the first

and second round the Texans don't have any of the things i just said so in my mind it's not a quick fix. You have to renegotiate contracts. You've got to cut some players if you have to, and you've got to replenish. And, you know, look, I know the Texans are loaded with mid-round-level picks, but a new general manager is going to want to have something to kind of brag about and beat his chest on. And not having even a second round pick going in the next year's draft means that this is a very long process. So why would anyone criticize JJ if he privately or publicly said, you know what? Maybe being, maybe me in a uniform other than the Houston Texans for the rest of my career wouldn't be the worst thing. Because I don't think he, you know,

he's owed Aaron a Super Bowl. No one has owed anything. But if you have something you can trade and get something back in return, and oh, by the way, it helps him out too. I think it's a win for both sides, frankly. Oh, I totally agree. I mean, look, you're right. No one is owed a Super Bowl.

I do think that they would not just trade him to something that has no chance, but then again, why would any team that has no chance be trading for him? Right. I mean, so, yeah, I mean, I think, and I think, obviously, if he could get traded to the Packers or the Seahawks or the Saints, you know, those are the teams that I think all need pass or shall all these those contenders. You know, I think in any of those situations, overwhelmingly Texans fans would probably be happy for the guy.

He would have a chance to go play Mr. Bull, and it would be a win for Jack Easterby if, you know, he sends the face of the franchise, most beloved player to a contender to get a chance to win a ring at his end of his career and get the value out of it. And that's the thing is like, sure, you can hold on to him. you want to make a decision for the next GM, like, whatever. I understand, I understand those considerations. But every, if you wait, I mean, the value is only going to go down, you know? And then, like, and then at that point, like, now are you getting a third round pick for JJ Watts?

Is that, like, is that such a better look just because of having a new GM than getting a second round pick for them or if you trade them right now? So, you know, I would trade them whenever, but I think it's easier for us as, like, in positions we are in to kind of just view it all of assets and sell it. too. And I recognize there are like human considerations here. The human consideration is, is that when you, when I watch JJ Watts zooms after meetings, he's getting crankier and crankier. And he's, he's done with the guitar bit of other players. He's done saluting. This is just a job for him at this point. And I think for his mental health and for the team's mental health, everybody should be up for grabs with the exception of perhaps what Deshaun Watson and everybody else. I'm like, France, I brought this up as a hypothetical.

What if the Packers, and again, I don't know the money situation, because obviously JJ makes a lot, Randall makes a lot. Could you trade both those guys, get something back in return, get a second round pick back, and you know what? Call today. Would that be nuts? I mean, I think Watt alone probably could get you a second. If that is the price, I think you would have contenders.

I'd be willing to give that up. So you probably could get a little more if you toss in Cobb. I mean, I don't think his contract is great, but I do think that team like Packers has familiarity with Rogers. a lot of sense. Yeah. I mean, if you, in my opinion, if you could do that, that would be awesome because not only are you doing right by JJ or not only you kind of selling them when his value is at the highest. You're also, I mean, no offense to rental Cobb, you're getting rid of a contract that's just not very good. I mean, this guy is going to make like 10 million

against the cap next year at 31 as a slot receiver. Who is, in fairness, has been more productive than I thought he was going to be last, like when he signed this deal. But it was also a deal that at the time was an overpay if you just consider it against the rest of the market. So if you could get out of that contract, too, I mean, that would be a plus. But realistically, the receivers we're talking about really are probably fuller and stills. So who's your number one threat starting next year? Is it Brandon Cook? Are you going to keep him around? Or you, I mean, I mean, he's good value right now for $8 million, but that dollar amount kicks up a little bit next year. Is he, is he worthy of being your number one

threat? You can't go to the draft unless you go to a third round guy, and that probably isn't going to be a guy that you would start with in terms of trying to fix your offensive game plan. right and it's just not it should not be kind of at the top of their needs i think cornerback has to be the top position when the guys you're trotting out to defend devante adams or eric murray and chate and you know i'm like um and when bradley roby looks that important to the secondary it's pretty bad yeah i mean i mean i mean who knows if they hold on to fuller maybe the next gm as an inside track of keeping them uh they get a good deal for him you know my thing with fuller is if he stays healthy um if he stays healthy he's going to get a market that he's going to find

a free agent market that prices him out of the Texas books. And if he gets hurt again, then why would the Texicans want to commit to him? As far as Cooks, yeah, I mean, I think he sticks around. I'm assuming he used to be six around. I mean, he is a big believer in Cook. He was the one who pushed him to get him in. I wouldn't worry so much about the cap that, you know, he has no guaranteed money left on his deal that after the season, what's kind of the attraction and getting him.

Yeah. And they could renegotiate it. And they're going to have a lot of leverage because there's not going to be much of market out there for receivers in general, considering the, you know, the capturing King in the pandemic and stuff. All right, my friend, we'll try this all over again because what time is the deadline next week? Oh, man, I think it's like 3 o'clock. Oh, serious drama when you and I visit next Tuesday. Thanks for the time as always, friend.

Yeah, we're running up against you. All right, thanks, my. Like it. Aaron Reese, Aaron J. Reese from the Athletic on the Texans beat. 1244 is a time. When this radio show returns, Jerry Jones gets snippy with his Dallas radio buddies. It's the Matt Thomas show. You'll hear the audio next after I tell you about T-G-S.

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and that's great for him, but I don't know if I particularly care for his raspberry or his cranberry takes. Cranberry is the best Thanksgiving food? Gross. I don't like it at all. Never, ever, ever. Even if it was good. It was

not even, well, we've done this before, Matt. We've created Thanksgiving play. Let's do the Fantasy 5. We'll do some improv. We did it. You beat me on it. Here we go. Turkey. Yes. I'll go mashed potatoes. Stuffing. Dressing? Wait, what's the same thing? Green bean casserole. Ooh, I like a broccoli rice casserole. Broccoli rice cheese casserole. Broccoli with cheese casserole. Broccoli with cheese sauce on it? I mean, corn rolls. Yes. I mean, cranberry ain't on the list, bro. It's not.

Or at least it's very far down. it sucks. Especially when it's in the can and you just take it right from the can and you just drop it on the plate. How about like mashed it up so it looks somewhat presentable?

It's not good. Ugh, gross. But congratulations for Ramon and his weight loss. Yeah. But your take on cranberry sucks. Sucks bad. All right.

Jerry Jones, I believe is borderline senile. He's probably for the last 20 years. Yeah, I was going to say, I think I've said this for the last 10 years. Well, he does a radio. segment because he's the general manager of the Cowboys and he goes on the Cowboys Radio

Station. And credit of the Dallas Cowboys Radio Station, they've had some Woody Ripartes, if you will. They're not afraid to ask the tough questions. Including this morning. Does your team have a leadership void? When we're in the offensive line. Just overall when these. But seriously, seriously, where would you have a leadership boy?

Is it an experience void? Is it a talent void? Is it a leader's board? I'm not trying to be accused here. The answer is no. The answer is no. I'm asking. There's not a, will it just shut up and let me answer?

No. Jerry, when you go into the locker room, what I'm asking is, do you see the intangibles? You're not asking me that. I gave you the answer. When I go into the locker room, there's no leadership void in my house. Okay. Now that's your answer. Let's move on.

Whoa. Now, apparently he has since apologized. Oh, that's good for him. Remember what was it like a year or two ago when he was dropping this one? There's a whole bunch of time when I have to bull to shit the hell out of you. And he was dropping these. Put your damn act together. He's so salty with them.

I don't have the patience to jack with you today. Yeah, apparently he apologized for the exchange. Oh, good for him. He doesn't think there's a leadership void. on the Cowboys. What else is he had to say? Well, I'm sure he had some very good things to say, Matt. Let's see.

Some other questions he was asked about if there's any issue with Mike McCarthy? That was one of the things that we wanted here when we made a change in our country after Jason Garrett. Is we wanted someone, by the way, you wanted someone that in case that you know what hit the fame that had the credibility

and had the doability to do what, staying tall and strong as the head coach. And he's doing that. Answer to your question and answers, yes. He's doing that in the face of adversity. They're a train wreck, but it's not all Mike McCarthy's fault. Now, I will say this, whoever it was that spoke to some Dallas reporters

saying that Mike McCarthy isn't prepared and is overmatched and doesn't really put the time in, that apparently has some legs to it. It was supposed to be, it's apparently several players, correct? Yes. And I think even didn't even Mike McCarthy in his introductory press conference

basically say that, you know, he was all into metrics and then he just kind of said, well, I just had to do it to kind of sell for the job. He told Jerry Jones,

he watched every play of every team in the 2019 season. Not possible. And then he said it was a lie or something like that. How often, how many job interviews have you, I don't know, four or five?

I'm probably in that same range. Now, I'll say this. I've never lied about something that I have done in the past. But I think I've been able, I think everybody does this. It's just a byproduct. When you're in a job interview, you do want to oversell yourself. Oh, wait. He said he watched every snap of the Cowboys' 2019 season, and even that wasn't true.

Yeah. Now, that's something he probably should have done. You know what I mean? Kind of like a little research for the job? Yeah. But do you agree that if you, lie about what you've done in the past, that can get your fire and that can make you lose your job. But I think when somebody says, can you do this for us?

I think everybody does embellish a little bit. Oversell? Yeah. Would you oversell, Matt? I'll give you one example. Okay. In 2005, the radio station I worked for lost the rights of the University of Utah Games. And they subsequently laid me off.

I was completely blindside. It was the first time I ever happened to my entire life. I'm, trust me. I've been spitting on their wounds for a long time. So I was going to go get a job at the University of Utah in their major gifts department. Basically what major gifts does for university is they go find people that can give big donations. Yeah, you go shake down billionaires or something. That's exactly what you do.

It's a long process. I mean, you could start a phone relationship, then you go by email, and then you go visit them once or twice. I mean, it's, it could take years to go, I mean, think about it. If you're trying to go get $5, $10, $15 million, it's not going to be done overnight. You've got to coddle them and love on them. And I think one of the things they said is, have you ever sold something big like that? And I said, no, but I said, I can go get those deals. I have great connections through my universe Utah ties.

And I'm thinking, well, I've been here two years. I don't have great connections. I got some connections, but I guess, you know, they weren't great. So, yeah, I sold myself as to, yeah, give me. an opportunity to go on the road to, you know, wherever, New York City, and I'll go find a Utah youth fan that's willing to give up their, you know, their endowment for $10 million to the University of Utah. So I think, yeah, I think it's very natural to do something like that.

That's true. When I was interviewed here, they showed me this big soundboard we have back here, and I'd only seen, like, a soundboard, maybe the thirdest size of that. And Ron's like, yeah, is that look like something you could, you're like, oh, yeah. What are you talking about? You're semi-smart guy. You've been able to figure it out.

I figured I'd figured it out. Yeah, exactly. I knew, but I acted like I knew exactly what the boy. I was floored by how huge the soundboard was here. But I just tried to play it cool. I got the job eventually, so. And look where you are now, 10 years later. Sitting across Matt Thomas.

God, your life is complete. Jeez. All right, second hour of the Matt Thomas. So what do you think about Jerry? Do you think he's, is he just lost his marbles? I think it's fair for him to get upset at that question. Because he's up, like, it's fair for JJ Watt to get upset the questions he was asked. Just because he's not, he's not.

happy and he doesn't want to, he's just not in a good spot right now. Nobody likes to lose. Jerry Jones certainly doesn't like to lose. Everything that someone asks you when you're losing carries more volume. Exactly. It may be an innocent question,

but in reality it's a, give me some dirt. Let me hear how pissed off you are. Yeah. I mean, is there a leadership problem? That's a fair question for a team that's, what, two and five,

and the wheels seem to be coming off. And you're starting quarterback, your heart and soul's gone. Yeah, and then there's, there's stories coming out that your players are upset with the coach. That's a fair question. But also it's fair for Jerry Jones to be like, I don't have time for this.

But you can't tell him to shut up. They probably shouldn't tell him to shut up. There's ways to get around that. Let me finish. Please let me speak. I'm trying to answer your question. Can I have my turn now? It's like what I want to say to you, five times a segment.

It's like, geez, Matt. You'll have your turn after this. 1257. The second hour of the Matt Toddler show starts at a matter of moment. 713-21, 5, 790. Oh, guess what we got going on now? Gut feelings. If you got a gut feeling about anything, sports, weather, no, don't forget, Paul, I don't care about your politics, gut feeling.

Anything else? Fair game. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-790. It's time for us to get some gut feelings in here on the Matt Thomas show, and it's up next on Sports Talk 790. Yes is the Matt Thomas show. This is their gut feeling on the Matt Thomas show. All right, if you're new to the show, first of all, where the hell of you been?

Secondly, you made the best decision in your life with this midday radio show. We talk about all the sports on the show, do we not, Ross. We try to entertain. All of them. Well, not all of them. Which we don't talk soccer. That's right. In gymnastics.

Cricket. Rugby. The big stuff, the important stuff. Hockey. at Aaron Reese on earlier today, a little Texans chatter. All right, the gut feelings is you call in 713, 2,1, 22, 5, 790. It's very simple. Call in with anything you think could happen.

Now, we don't make them, they're not predictions. There's a difference between a prediction and a gut feeling. That's true. If gut feelings hit, they're like double the value of a prediction. That's true. And if they miss, it's like it never happened. Correct. It's basically what a Matt Thomas prediction is.

I forget about them quickly. I'm here to remind you. Although, I've been around a hot streak as of late. It's debatable. Here is my gut feeling this week By the way, if you've got one, 713, 212, 7908 I'll give you two gut feelings.

One is on sports, one is not. The non-sports gut feeling to me is the trailer for the new Save by the Bell series is out. It's a reboot where the gang is all back together, but they've brought their kids to the high school. So it's basically Kelly and Zach and Jesse and not screech,

but what was Mario Lopez's name, character's name? Slater. They're all in it. It is going to be an unmitigated disaster. It will not survive an entire season. It screech is or isn't it? He's not in it.

Nor is... Yeah, Dustin Diamond's had a lot of issues. Yeah, nor is the Lisa Turtle. She's not involved in either. She's kind of crazy too. Yeah, she's kind of lost it a little bit. It will be a disaster. It will be something I will watch one time

on the Peacock TV channel and go, this is crap, I'm out. Do you have Peacock TV? No, I think I have to download or something. So, in matter of fact, it was so good it would be on NBC, but it's not.

It's on Peacock. So it's going to be a disaster. That's your gut feeling. That's my gut feeling is I will, when I watch it, whenever it comes out, I will hate it. Oh, of course I'm going to watch it.

By the way, people are like, somebody on Twitter's like, well, I bet you were a Jesse Spanel girl over a Kelly Capowski. I'm like, flip a coin, I'm good with either one. Oh, Lisa Turtles, one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Distant third.

I would take even, Leah Rahemi, when she was on the show with Zach, is before. Learrimony? Whatever her name is. Yeah, Leah, there's Leah Rahimi that's in Chicago. Not Layla. Layla Rahimi is Chicago sports.

Yeah, Leah Remini. I would take her as a teenager over Lisa Turtle. Kelly Kapowski had a giant head. But Jesse Spanel went to do showgirls. And she gets major points for that. Okay, so that's my... I mean, Tiffany and everything. They're all fine.

They were all fine. So a coin fliper on those two. All right, my sports take. The Texans guys are in desperate need of at least a second round traffic for next year's draft. Yes. And the only way you can get that second round pick is if you put together trades in order to get that second round pick. Okay. The Texans, my gut feeling is, guys, will not be able to pull off a deal that will surrender them a second round pick in return.

Okay. There will be trades. There will be minor trades. There'll be minor trades. They'll be minor trades, but at the end of the day, define minor. Third, fourth, fifth, six round picks.

I mean, like, if Will Fuller gets traded, I don't think that's minor. No, but, okay, I should say this, the return will be minor. My gut feeling is

they will not have a second round pick by the time the trade deadline ends at the end of next week. That's my gut feeling. That the trades they will make will result in thirds, fourths, fifth,

sixes, sevenths. That's just basic logic. It's not a gut feeling. No, you can make a trade that would, I could say that, I could say they could make a trade that would give them a first or second. And there's no way. You mean there's no way. It takes two to tango. A trade can happen.

You can offer enough in return. I'm just telling you that I don't think they're going to be so, they should be super aggressive, Ross, and they're not. So I will say my gut feeling is they will be so non-aggressive with their trades that they will not, at the end of the day, have a second round pick. I don't think they have anything that's worth first or second round pick. JJ, why would be worth second round pick? He's not. Will Fuller, definitely. Yonika Gawke just went for a third and a fifth.

I don't think J.J. Watt's worth more than Yonik and Gawah right now. Don't know. I'm saying, would you say about Will Fuller? I think Will Fuller definitely would be worth a second. If you package some things together. I think more than J.J. Watt. Yeah, maybe.

Okay, well, we're fighting over. But then boys ain't getting traded, as Dachan Watson said. You know what? That's going to be my gut feeling. No trades for the Texans. At all. Really? Nothing over like the Will Fuller's, no wide receiver and no JJ Watt.

How about that? So maybe like a Duke John's or something like that? Yeah, Duky J. So you're saying even less than what I'm saying, that it's going to be barely a blip on the radar. Correct. Okay, my gut feeling says no second round pick comes to the Texans. You believe it's even lesser than that.

You have a non-got feeling about a non-sports issue? Wait, can we do a gut? We're supposed to do, oh, next two. Tuesday will be the gut feeling about the election, right? Do we have to? Yeah, why not? Because I don't like politics. That's fine.

I don't have any other really big gut feelings. Okay, that's fine. Well, it didn't, Brendan said there was going to be a rocket's going to be a rocket. Yeah, he had a rocket. I got a couple hours. You've got one hour and 53 minutes, actually. You got time. I said yesterday happened in show.

I said the World Series wouldn't go more than five, and I was wrong about that. But that's because the Dodgers want to commit like 15 errors in one play. It's not my fault. No, it wasn't. That's a gut feeling. Thanks, Max Muncie. So I have to clarify a rule here. Uh-oh.

There are no rules. Well, we were supposed to make it week to week, but I think we've gotten kind of loose on that, right? Well, then Matt broke that. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. My gut feeling is that the entire NFC West will make the playoffs. Ooh. The entire NFC West.

Ooh. Right now, the only team that's not in is the 49ers, and they're being kept out by the Bears, who I do not believe are for real. I think the only threat, to be honest with you, is one more team out of the NFC South. Can you save this gut feeling and remembered for a couple months? Okay. I'll accept that. Yeah, I got it right here.

I'm saving some of these. Okay. Some of them. Do you have a non-sports gut feeling? No, not in the moment. I have a gut feeling that if I watch Borat, I will be disappointed in the comedy of it. Really? Yeah.

Okay. What are the reviews like? I haven't. I have not seen any reviews. I like the first one. I like Shashi Barron Cohen and the Allie G show back of the day. He was on Jimmy Kimmel last week. I watched the segment.

The first four or five minutes of it was hysterical. Borat for 50 minutes straight is obnoxious. Okay. Did you watch the first movie? What did you think? I did. I like the first one. Okay.

I think I'm going to like it. I like Shashi Barron Cohen and what he does. The whatever you would call it, I guess getting in a costume and all that stuff. Apparently the whole thing about Rudy Giuliani was. overinflated. The tease was just Well, the greatest of his characters to me is Allie G. The Alley G show is amazing. That movie was terrible though. It was like an actual, they did a narrative movie. It wasn't like his doing his little

gorilla, whatever you would call it. All right, let's go. Anybody have a gut feeling? 713, 212-790. It can be non-sports, it can be sports, it can be both. You guys are walking to dial in. 7-1-3-212-5-7-9. Let's go to our friend in Tiki Island. Jeremy on 7-90. Jeremy, what is your gut feeling? My gut feeling is that the Texans will get less for what they trade. Okay, hear me out here. Less for what they trade in the next week or two, or whatever the deadline is, then what they should have got for the players that they end up cutting in the offseason

because they don't want to take a cap hit. So did you catch all that? No. For instance, when they cut somebody like Randall Conradt, Brandon coach, David Johnson, something like that, they should have been able to trade those guys for a second, third, and a fourth pick, something like that. The problem is that no one would offer any of those

second, third, or fourth of those guys. Oh, sure they would. Not for David Johnson, no chance. What if you packaged up a Zach Cunningham, Randall Cobb, and a David Johnson to try to get a third round pick? But how many teams have $25, $30 million underneath the salary cap of the the season.

That's true. Okay. So what is this? Is this a five-year rebuild or is it a 10-year rebuild? Well, I consider an 18-year rebuild. It's since 2002. Okay. Going forward, though, I have a gut feeling it is a

five-to-seven-year rebuild before this team gets back to the playoffs. I wouldn't say that. Thank you, Jeremy, for the call. But I don't think it's next. I don't think it's next year. You know, there's always the thing you've got to find an NFL team that loses 10 games to win 10 the next. They're in the Texans. What are you going on me before there?

Could be. Really? What would make you think they would go to 10 wins next year? Deshawn Watson is my only reason. Okay. I mean, he can will you to 10 wins. With no number one receiver, brand new running backs, no first and second round pick, and probably a lot of third and fourth round guys that are picked in the defense,

starting in the NFL because you're getting rid of almost every part of your secondary not named Bradley Robey. Yes. Okay. That's saying it's possible. Okay. Is it going to happen? I'm not predicting them to win 10 games next year. We'll see.

It's possible a libertarian candidate could win the presidency. Well, what's her name? Joe Jorgensen. You could have no idea. Good luck to her. I'm voting straight ticket Green Party. Really? Whatever that is.

Ralph Nader? No, he's not. Is he still alive? Yeah. Are you sure? Howie something or other is the Green Party. You know why. There's only one reason I know that.

I was getting all these text messages from people saying, who you're going to vote for? And I've been saying Joe Jorgensen and Howie, whatever. I've been finding people who are running for different parties who are not Democrat or Republican and saying that's who I'm voting for. I get texted by the Democrats like every other day. Well, they just calm down. Why don't you say something derogatory back at them?

Oh, one of them. I told them, oh, well, it was like, hey, it's Jill with Texas Democrats. I was like all these, I was like, all this pestering is going to make me vote for Trump. That's what I said. Like French, she was like,

I will take you off the list. I get DMs in Instagram from these bots. And the easiest way to get rid of them is by giving them a statement they're not familiar with. Like how are you, what I'm going,

baby? And I'm like, I'm a little gassy and they don't respond back. Okay. I've done that before too. So do that. Give them the response

that they're ill prepared for. One time I set up, I got, I went, full bore with this guy. I set up a Google voice, a fake phone number, and I was texting that guy. You did not. Yes, I did. I did, absolutely.

I found it entertained. You're a special kind of bad. Well, and then he said something, some kind of slang or something. I googled it, and it was like Nigerian slang. I can't remember what the phrase was. So you went extraordinary steps to really make this person's life miserable. Yeah. And it worked.

Yeah, I'm petty like that sometimes, Matt. Yeah. New a Twitter account. Petty RV. 114 on the Matt Thomas show If you would like to send us any more of your pet peeves You can do that at SportsMT at SportsRV And at Brendan Riley underscore 114 is a time

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I think it's rather lazy to always rip on officials for every little thing they do wrong. Mistakes are going to happen. Yes. In every sport. every sport. No sport is immune from mistakes. There was a play in the Old Miss Auburn game that allowed Auburn advantage on some sort of kickoff. I don't know the particulars of it, but basically there was not a challenge. There should have been a play that should have been reviewed. It wasn't. And it was to the

detriment of Lane Kiffin's Old Miss team. Well, somebody tweeted about how poor the fish eating was in that game. And Lane Kiffin retweeted it. Okay? Yes. Because he was pissed. And in a three-point game with Auburn, you never know if that would have been the difference in the ball game.

The SEC has come out and said, yes, Lane Kiffin, yes, Ole Miss football, we screwed up. We should have reviewed the play. That is a mistake on our part. So when you make mistakes, don't you let things kind of just what's the cliche let it slide let it slide roll off your back a little bit

whatever that is that phrase is used well the SEC didn't do that they acknowledged their mistake but they were not happy that Lane Kiffin retweeted a tweet about how bad the officiating was in the SEC they find Lane Kiffin $25,000 for retweeting as a violation of the

as the violation of the social distance, the social media policy among coaches and administrators in the Southeastern Conference. Now, I understand it's important to not attack officials when it's subjective calls, when it's, man, we got, we felt there was a hole out there,

they missed, that kind of stuff. But if there's something that the SEC or any governing body admits they made a mistake to, sometimes Rashi, you got to take the L. I agree. And did you see how Lane Kiffin wants to pay for the fine? He does.

He wants to pay for it in pennies. Well, the problem is, Lane, there is a coin shortage in America. At least every fast food restaurant tells me there's a coin shortage. Is that real or is that some kind of conspiracy thing? I think it's away from them to make some side money. because you're just going to give over the dollar and then make a bunch of change. It's like there used to be a Bank of America used to keep the change. They'll match you your over the chain.

If you go to McDonald's and you order something that's 809, they're giving you $11 back. They're taking the 91 cents and saying, well, we just don't have it. That's BS. I will say this that happened to me at the grocery store the other day. After you stole a Coke, then what happened? No, I bought some stuff at Kroger, and they said, you've got, four ninety three left and change. They gave me four bills.

They said, would you like us to credit your Kroger Plus card with 93 cents? I said, I would like that very much. So instead of being gypsters and only give me $4 back, they did give me the $4 in cash back, but they put $93 cents on my account, which I appreciated. This must be dire times for you because you're the only person I know that keeps change, like in their pocket. If I was like, hey, Matt, can I have a 45 cents? I love change.

You'd usually be able to do that. Correct. So how you've been surviving? It's not been easy. He's trying an unprecedented time. So let's go back to Lane Kiffin. $25,000 in pennies. So what instead of the SEC saying, look, send anem email, yeah, we screwed up,

please take your retweet down and we'll call it good. They're exasperating the situation by admitting they made the mistake, but yet still finding Lane Kiffin the $25,000. I think the SEC made a bad situation even worse. I agree. But the problem is, if you're in the SEC headquarters in Birmingham, Alabama, Rossi, you're thinking, I know we screwed up,

I know our officials should have done better, but you cannot attack us because we're the mighty, powerful SEC. And it's also weird to me that it happens from a retweet. He didn't say, you know, it wasn't because of something he said in a press conference. It was something because he tweeted himself and said, you know, this is an outrage or whatever. It's because he retweeted somebody else.

And it wasn't, he didn't retweet something that was subjective. The conference itself admitted the mistake that was made. And I think if you make a mistake like that, it doesn't change the outcome. Old Mills still lost the football game. It could have been in the large part because of your mistake. Let the coach have a chance to,

again, he didn't call them horrible human beings. He retweeted something. That was correct. That was correct. The SEC screwed up. He can't put him in pennies. He's got to write the check. Why not?

Because he can't. And he's show up with a couple wheelbarrel. Well, he needs 2.5 million pennies. He can't let this. get any further along. Because he's going to have permanent resentment against the league office and vice versa. Yeah. So he tweeted a video of a guy paying a $3,000

bill with a wheelbarrel full of pennies. Then he said, where can I find 25,000 pennies? Well, that's only 250 bucks Lane. And then he said, correction, you put the little correction asterisk. 250,000? Well, that's still only $2,500. It's all mess. I mean, what do you expect it? So, and so 200,

2.5 million. Is that even right? Yeah, 200, 2.5 million pennies is what he needs. And there's a shortage right now. There's no chance he's getting that. I don't think the entire state of Mississippi has 2.5 million pennies. I don't think Houston, Texas has 2.5 million pennies. You'd go to a couple old ladies' houses and they got the water jugs full of pennies.

Ooh, that wouldn't be a bad call. A couple of those. My quick Lane Kiffin's story, to show you how naive I was as a young sportscaster. I moved to Minnesota in 2007. As soon as I get there, Glenn Mason, I think, is out as the Minnesota football coach. I believe his defensive coordinator was Lane Kiffin. He was one of the coordinators.

I don't which one it was. Where? At Minnesota. He was hot on the pursuit of the job at USC. So I thought, you know what, I'm going to be this young enterprising sportscaster. I'm going to call Lane Kiffin to come out on my new radio show on KSTP Minneapolis and had him tell me where he's going. Stupid me.

Why would he do that? I called him. I called his office and said, hey, this is Lane. Can't come to the phone right now. Leave us your name and number. And one of me and one of our staff will be with you. Go, go. So whatever they say.

I just love him as long message. And hey, Lane, this is Matt Thomas. I'm a new sportscaster in town. And there's rumors that you're going to USC. Could you come on my show to discuss? I left the phone number and everything. Never returned the call. I don't see him having a work.

anywhere in Minnesota. He was there for sure. 2007? Somewhere in that range. Where was he? 2001. He was with the USC from 2001 and 2006. And then the Raiders hide him in 2007.

My mixes somebody up? I thought it was Lane Kiffin. Who left Minnesota to go to the Raiders, maybe? Now I'm dementia starting to kick in. You're vexed. I got to figure that out. Now that's going to bother me the rest of the show.

Uh-oh. Somebody left Minnesota to go to USC around 2000. I thought it was Lane Kiffin. I wonder if Monty Kiffin. Was Monty Kiffin? Now, Monty's his dad, right? Yes. Now, see, now I got, I hate my story times come up with the wrong name.

I swore it was Lane Kiffin. No, it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen to me. I'm trying to find the list of USC head coaches. Who was there after? I'm trying to remember. So when was Lane at USC? He was at USC from 01 to 06, and then he went to the Raiders in 07.

He went back. He went to USC in 2010. So you think maybe 2010? He went back to USC to be a head coach after one year at Tennessee. Oh, now I'm thoroughly confused. I've got to find the 2006 Golden Gophers coaching staff. Yeah, I've got to figure that out. All right, this audience is like, what the hell are you doing now?

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I told you, Ross, Texas hangover is no longer on Tuesdays anymore. It's just people check out after Monday. It being a by-week-two doesn't help the cause. You have nobody, no opponent to think about and how you're going to lose the next game. You can't start foaming at the mouth for a Jacksonville Jaguars until next week. God, who's going to want to watch that game? The AFC South rivalry.

Second consecutive, not second consecutive, second time this year that Fox has put a Dallas game on. on Fox at the exact same time as a Texans Green Bay game. Or Texans game. Houston was the only Fox station in the entire state that carried the game. Everybody else in the entire state carried Dallas versus Washington. Cowboys are Texas' team. Who were just a game better at the time.

Still a game better at the time. So who's going to watch Houston versus Jacksonville? The announcers for that game are going to be broadcasting to two cities. Houston and Jacksonville. So those people will be watching it, I guess. And anybody that's got DirecTV who would spend hours watching Texans and Jaguars. Maybe if you got Gardner Minchew on your fantasy team or something? No, he's, you know what he is?

He's good for a quarter, a half. And then they shot a little bit of that Jacksonville Charger game last Sunday after the Casey Denver game was over with. He peters out. He's on a four-quarter quarterback. He really sex in the first half and then, you know, sexy in terms of numbers. not as an attractiveness. And then all of a sudden, it's just... Interesting.

So he peaks early. Yeah. As compared to peaking late. All right. When there's some actress in the 80s, you said that fell off the hill pretty quickly? So he's like her. What actress would that be?

I can't remember. We're both having memory problems today. Yeah, that's true. So, you know, they should win that game. Again, what I have met at 5 and 11, I cannot jump off that bandwagon. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm positive.

What if they win the next four games? I'll stay at 5 and 11. Okay. First of all, they're not. Teams that go 1 and 6 don't win four in a row. They just don't. Even if the schedule is a little easier, because I guarantee, as you said yesterday,

Jacksonville Radio today is like, hey, guys, I know our team sucks, but the Texans are coming to our place. We can get a win. And traveling Texans are not going to be there to put a city flag over their flag. No. They're not.

They're not traveling. Why not? You have to be a complete dope to go to the, a Jacksonville Texans game. Am I right? Let me search the traveling Texans. They have a Twitter account, don't they? Yeah.

I hope they don't follow me. I hope they block me. They have not posted since September 10th. That's very, you know what? I'll give them credit then. Running the downtown Jacksonville to find the seal of Jacksonville, Florida, and draping a Texans flag over it, screaming Texans with their big bling is not the smart thing to do,

especially when your team is one and six. Maybe they can go to a nice trip to Jacksonville, man. The beaches are I've never been to Jackson though. I never been to, I don't know what it's like. I've heard it's kind of sketchy, actually. I would imagine.

It seems kind of sketchy. Well, I mean, in that corridor of North Florida is where you get like 80% of the Florida stories. So, yeah, Houston, Jacksonville probably the least attract, put it this way, it will not be flexed to Sunday night football on NBC. You don't think so?

Unless COVID becomes an issue. Yeah, they're right. Unless five different games are affected by COVID. So if you don't know this, last Sunday night game was supposed to be Tampa Bay at the Las Vegas Raiders. But the Raiders had a lot of their offensive line struck by COVID. Well, yeah, Trent Brown was positive and the other guys were on the list. On the list.

So basically, the NFL said we can't not have a Sunday night game. It's just too much ratings there. Too many people watch. So we're going to take the preemptive move and move that game to the afternoon and flip it with a game that doesn't have any issues. when it comes to COVID, and that was Seattle and Arizona, and it turned to be a great football game. Or DeAndre Hopkins caught 10 passes for over 100 yards and a touchdown.

And by the way, it was questionable for the game going in. So he's a Sunday player. He's a, doesn't practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, comes up and plays well on Sunday. Apparently, that doesn't work well except in one of their NFL sitting. In Houston, it's important for Bill O'Brien to see DeAndre Hopkins practice because he's a leader and he wants to lead by example. Forget about what he does on Sunday. It's about what you do Tuesday through Saturday.

Fraud. Not DeAndre. Bill O'Brien. Where's he going to be? What's he been up to? Have we heard from Bill? Is he going to be coaching somewhere soon? Well, you know, he lives in Westview.

He's got to go to the grocery store. Is anybody seeing him at the H.E.B? What would you do if you saw him? Nothing. I'd probably text you about, hey, man, I just saw Bill O'Brien. H-EB. Speaking of that, do you guys like games where you meet, you see famous people in a restaurant and you try to guess,

tell your buddies who they are? Like a little, like you guess who I was next to? Oh, like I mess with them. Like, yeah, you'll never guess who I saw at the... You know what, we've got nothing going on right now. Okay. Let's do this right now. I'll set it up. Okay. We have no prizes, Brendan. Is that correct? We're empty the prize vault. Things are not going well over there. We're just going to give me too many price. I do have one one more four pack of tickets to the South American

Pantanel. That's not a big. bad deal for someone wants to go to the zoo yeah you go to the zoo yeah you get family thing it's a great deal that's a nice prize it's the last thing I got don't shake that off oh I was just laughing because we we've had to keep figuring out how to pronounce that word every day oh you have I've stopped trying

all right so let me give you the scene yes I don't know why this person was in this city but I was in Don Deloese it's a sports person sorry okay um can I can I give some clues first AJ Foyke uh here we go uh this is a I'll give you a bunch of clues actually.

Wonderful. The site was we were in suburban Washington, D.C. at a place called Ted's Montana Grill. It's a high-end burger place. They do steaks and stuff like that, but it's nothing super expensive. Their big deal is you can have burgers made of meat or you can have burgers made of a bison.

That's just kind of their bit. Bison burger, okay. This person is on television. This person is in sports. This person is a former head football coach. in the NFL. And the first person to call in and guess wins? And you can ask some other clues.

How recently have they been a head coach? It's probably been, I want to say, Joe Gibbs. Why don't you let me answer the question? I'm trying to give you some hints. It's probably been five years, maybe a scosh longer. I have to go look it up. It's been a little bit. Well, can I guess?

Sure, why not? People to call in and guess, right? You guys can help him, and then when someone definitively knows who it is. Okay. So far, so far we know of the following. Former head coach. Did I say what sport it was? NFL head coach.

NFL HUD coach. Really? He's on television. Oh. Okay. And has not probably coached in the last four or five years. I think I have a guess. If you think you know what it is, don't say it.

No, I'm not going to say. Yeah. Brennan, you got any other hint you would like to help the audience along? Well, I'm trying to figure out. Is there any way you can give me an idea of where he coached without giving it away? Did they win a Super Bowl? No. Did they get to a Super Bowl?

No. Did they, let's see. Were they a defensive-minded or offensive-minded coach? Defensive-minded. I think I know who it is. Okay, then don't say it. Okay. We'll let people guess it.

7-1-3-1-2-5. So let's recap everything, everybody that did the little hints along the way. Defensive-minded, former head coach. Yes. Probably hasn't coached in the NFL in five years. Okay. I could go look at them, give you a more definitive term. All right.

And it's on television. Weekly. Okay. Well, somebody wants to guess. All right. Let's see if we can get one quick guess in here. Let's go to, is this Judy? Judy and Katie.

Hi, Judy. Thank you. Do you think you have a guess? Huh? You have a guess? Yeah, I have Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy.

When did he coach last? I don't know. I'm here at the bank, and I'm making a deposit, and I heard this, and I said, I'm just going to call me, and I don't know. I guess it hasn't been over five years. Ted Bundy, huh? I don't think. I don't know.

Judee, Judy, Judy, Judy, Judy. Yeah, I heard Ted Bundy really murdered the competition. He's a real killer. Did I? Did I just think? I mean, they're not a coach. No, there's not. There's no kills. You know, in the fourth quarter, you really want to have the

killer instinct of a Ted Bundy. You know what? You know what? I'm thinking about, but is his last name, Bundy or Gundy or somebody? Oh, Mike Gundy? Ted's...

You mean their dad? Ted Gundy? Okay. No. Judy, Judy, Judy, Judy, go focus on your deposit and let's and try another call on her day, okay? Ted Bundy really got a

slash through opposing defenses. That's enough. We'll try to give a winner when we come back. Ted Bundy. Wow. Ooh, baby. What I think of the great coaches of all time? Lombardi.

Yes. Parcells. Parcells. Belichick. Landerie. Ted Bundy. I'm sorry. I'm going to all choked up.

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I'm working hard. I'm trying to be a good teammate. I'm trying to go out here every day and do my job. Matt Thomas. Taking it one day at a time. God bless our last caller. I love her. Judy.

Judy, we needed to laugh today. We just did. and we belly laughed. All right. So we got these Zupass, so we've got to give away. And I want you to guess who. DuPantino. See, I don't never want to say that again.

Okay. Because it was such a piece of work just to say it the first time. So to refresh. Go ahead. People are guessing a coach you were in a same restaurant with. Didn't speak to him. Okay. I'll give you one more little hint that we started counting.

bombs that he was dropping he was dropping during dinner wow okay in a five minutes span he dropped six f bombs I could see that I could do that you could drop six F bombs in five minutes yeah abs a yeah you probably could all right let's see if we get a winner here uh let's say hi to Jake in Jersey Village hi Jake hi Jake hi this is a complete guess but I'm gonna say we're on the air did you hope I hope you didn't that's it I said F well Oh, okay. Put him on a hole, please. Hit the delay, but just in case.

Sorry to the rest of you that thought you had the winner. I don't know. Dang. Did I give away too much information? I think you might have because I figured that. And then also my brother text, he's listening, and he texted, does the coach like feet? Well, if I would have said, and this coach is a fetish,

it would have taken about one second for everybody to call him with the right answers on that. But congratulations, Jake. We're going to set you up. We're going to... Smell him? What are you playing now? What? Can I smell him?

Rex Ryan. Can you mind if I touch that? Remember when he had that foot fetish video? So the most awkward part of the initial was I was having dinner with Kevin Ashenfelder, who does a football games. Of course. And Ted Pardee, who is our color analyst. Parties and Ryan's don't really, I would think, get along too much.

Oh, like, yeah. It's like a Hatfields and McCoy's type of deal. So I said to Ted, I said, are you going to go over there, introduce yourself? But he says, no. Anybody that knows older stuff, Buddy wasn't real nice to Ted, to Jack. And I don't blame Ted for being that way. I just don't. Well, you can't blame each other for the sins of their fathers, though.

Yeah, but you know what? When Buddy took shots at Jack, if I was Jack's son, I would be doing the exact same thing. I wouldn't want to go over and talk to him. Yeah. buddy Ryan was just an all-around a-hole though right yeah yeah and I don't know what his sons are like I think and what him likes a foot fetish and one doesn't like to get a haircut oh they like to fight and drink beer and wrestle and coach football isn't it wasn't Rex the one that took him the Jets to all the AFC championship games I think he went to one think was it multiple I felt like there was more than one during that time okay but they had a couple of playoff runs I think he's good on television do you not he's all right. I think he's a little off base on some of the stuff. I don't watch a whole lot of NFL pregame shows because it's...

Me either. The problem is you just watch so much. Like if you put an ESPN at 6 o'clock in a morning and they're breaking down games for five, six hours straight. Yeah, you're right. It was back-to-back AFC championship games and then it was just terrible. And then he was the Bill's head coach and that didn't go well. He got fired there as well. I think he's probably in a very good spot right now doing television.

As are most coaches. Was he the defensive coordinator? I know he came from the Ravens, Was he there when they won in 2001? Was he the decontator there? I can't remember. That I don't know. But, man, Ross, it takes a special human being to drop F bombs over and over and over again in a public restaurant.

Because we kept hearing him like, who is speaking like that? Is he drinking or what? Don't know. Wasn't close to the table. Oh, okay. But I definitely... Well, if you're close enough to hear him drop F bombs. Well, I wasn't going to stare at him and say, what are you drinking, sir?

He was... Chris Gordy hung out with him. He was outside of our hotel in Miami. He was at the... the hotel, either our hotel or across the street. And during Super Bowl? You'd have to come at, Chris Gordy's like, hey, you want to go try to drink a beer at Rex Ryan? I was like, no, I don't really care that much.

So I didn't go. I would drink a beer at Rex Ryan if he was paying for it. I think he paid for, I think he ended up paying for Chris. We should get Gordy in here. I think he paid for Gordy's beers. They were talking LSU and some other stuff, of course. Imagine Chris Gordy talking about LSU stuff. It's stunning that it would come up in conversation.

All right. Or maybe it was Rob Ryan. It might have been Rob Ryan. Rob's got the long flowing hair. Yes, it was Robin. And can't coach at all. Yeah. Rex at least got somewhere as a head coach for a while.

I just didn't want to go chase him down or like, I don't know, feel like I was bothering or something. Who's the most famous person you've ever had a beer with? Had a beer with Matt Thomas. Second most important. Important and famous. James Click. Really? I don't think I've had a beer with anybody.

Who's the most famous person you ever had a beer with? Chuck Norris. How'd that happen? When I first moved out of Houston to go to Minnesota. Oh, yeah, it was Rob, and they talked Saints. That's what it was. Oh, see, can't get the Ryan's right? I said Rob.

Oh, okay, you fixed it. I'm going to corrected myself. You can't get messages on your phone, your watch. That's hysterical. Yeah, my old boss threw a goodbye get-together for me when... All right, who's the second most famous? Okay, so definitely Chuck Norris is the most famous person I've ever to beer with. second most famous

it probably had to be some rockets probably okay but I'm not counting the rockets I would have to go with most famous would be Chuck Norris it's pretty famous it is pretty it's not bad it's true

and here's a problem I never watch one episode of Walker Texas Ranger me either my grandma love that show though my great grandma so he's like one of the biggest badasses in the history of television and I'm very vague with what he was it a badass show?

I don't know. I mean, he's walking around and dust or roundhouse kicking everybody, I guess. I didn't really watch the show. I mean, Ricky Bobby named his kids after him. Walker and Texas Ranger. That's true. You know what I'm saying? All right, 158. The final hour

of the Matt Thomas show is up next. 713-212-5-790. Is the Matt Thomas show. 202 on Sports Talk 790. The Matt Thomas show continues. on what should be hopefully a busy week for the Rockets.

By the way, your gut feeling has 58 minutes left to go, Brendan Riley. Plenty of time. I'm staring at Woj's tweet, just hoping for something to drop. How upset are you going to be when it happens, though, at like 57? Well, it'll be once again another glorious day for the A team. They don't work hardly for basically a month, and then they get the Rockets head coaching drop just dropping their lap. Theoretically, Matt.

Theoretically, what? I mean, we miss some time during the playoffs. as well. Yeah, but I also worked. I worked on a Saturday night doing the on deck show in the 10th inning show. I don't think Clinton worked in a month and a half. He had to give him directions of the office. Did he lose his parking spot?

No, no, he didn't. We should have, though. All right, 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-750. Ross, I want you to go find out the job title of John Perry of the Houston Texans. I thought that was the the aerosmith guitarist.

Could be, but I want you to find out for the sake of the Texans who John Perry is. Wide receivers coach. So today, remember we had Aaron Reese on earlier this hour? By the way, you got some phone calls to get to in a second here. Normally with us at 1.30, but the Texans had an assistant coach Zoom meeting at 1 o'clock. Wonderful. Because he's on the B, he needs to be on that Zoom call. John Perry, the Texans wide receiver coach, said the final.

everybody in this building knew where they stood when coach o'brien was here that's why we had success i'm proud of what coach o'brien has done kiss ass you should be fired to you're a prines bitch wow matt called down what i got a couple of coughs fit up you had a fit of the coughs seriously john pack your bags and leave now seriously i haven't seen someone to ride someone's jock like that in a really long time, Ross. He was the first, he's been there for seven years. So I guess as long as Bill O'Brien's been there, he's been here. So I don't even know this guy's name.

He was tight-ins coach, and then he's been wide receivers coach for the last four years. Let me read it how John Perry would really sound like. Okay. You know, everybody in this building knew where they stood when Coach O'Brien was here. That's what we had such success. I'm proud of what Coach O'Brien has done. And I miss him. I want to caress him.

I want to kiss him and lick his face. Wait a minute. These don't sound like quotes, Matt. Those are embellished, but sorry. If I was Calman and I'm like, get the F out of here. What do you mean? Cal McNair's probably a Bill O'Brien guy too. That's probably true.

The only reason why he had to make the move because there was a player revolt. Well, JJ went in the office while he was eating his lunch and went boom, boom, boom, boom. Get him out of here now. Green giant. Fifi Fofo Fum. F Fem pho Fum too. Seriously, John Perry. that's the problem

is you got a John you got a coach O'Brien lover maybe that's the reason why Tim Kelly doesn't change the game plan is because he doesn't want to upset to Bill O'Brien's strategies and playbook he doesn't want to open things up because you have too many people

that are tied to a terrible football coach where would Tim Bellet Kelly be if not for Bill O'Brien probably coaching junior high wide receivers I don't know what kind of pedigree Tim Kelly has go look it up Okay. You're going to be astonished how bad it is.

I saw it yesterday. Graduate assistant in Westland, Illinois, Westland. That's fine. Everybody's got to start somewhere. He's a graduate assistant at three different places. That means he couldn't get a job. How does he graduate assistant? How many degrees does he have?

Graduate assistant at Illinois Wesleyan, graduate assistant at Ball State, graduate assistant at Penn State. Couldn't get a job, couldn't get a job, couldn't get a job, had to get a graded assistant degree. And then he's been with the Texans ever since. Quality Control, Offensive Quality Control, ends coach and then offensive coordinator this year calling plays and then the play calling duties were revoked about three weeks in which basically was about when we all thought it was going to be yeah how embarrassing Tim Kelly running the ball David Johnson first and second down

hashtag in honor of BLB it's run run sack punt it's the Texans formula John Perry everybody in this building knew where they still with coach O'Brien was here that's why we had success I'm proud of what coach Brian is proud of what he's done let's run through the accomplishments okay AFC South Championships. Four of them. Barely Wildcard wins. One of them. Or two.

Zero divisional wins. Many multiple divisional embarrassments. No first and second round pick. Terrible culture in the organization. People are walking on eggshells in Texanville, except John Perry and Tim Kelly. I'd be playing a lot of Bill O'Brien drops right now, but we retired them. We did. We're not going to go to that old card.

Well, Joe Perry, I mean, I'm sorry, John Perry likes his guy, not Joe Perry from Aerosmith. Or Steve Perry from Journey. Correct. How embarrassing. Or Tyler Perry from Medea's family reunion. Like I had a terrible boss one time in programming. Brilliant programming mind. But a terrible people person, awful, awful, awful.

So as I speak of him today, over a decade later, I say, great programming mind, terrible people person. I won't change my opinion about that. John Perry is drinking the O'Brien Cool-Aid when O'Brien's not even in the building anymore. Well, he gave him a job for seven years. And guess what? When Bill O'Brien gets a new job, guess who's going to be on the staff?

Two of them, Tim Kelly and John Perry, guaranteed, locked in where? Wherever he happens to go. Youngstown State or something? Do you think he's a head coach of the NFL again? Probably not. Coordinator in the NFL again? Maybe.

Head coach of a college team again. I would say yes. that feels that feels like to me the next landing spot for him right I say Youngstown State but you know one of those like a smaller program how does Bill O'Brien recruit anybody what's his name who's the Liberty head coach I'm trying to remember his name Hugh Freeze you end up somewhere like Liberty Buffalo Youngstown the difference in there is that Bill O'Brien didn't cheat

didn't Hugh didn't Hugh Freeze was a massive cheater correct yes at Ole Miss yes gosh guys so let me look at the responses of Aaron Wilson Um, fire everybody, says one person. Clean house. Can I say M-E-A-T-Rider? Yeah, I think so. Meat Rider.

F-U, John Perry, can't wait till you're gone. Wow. That's not very nice. John Perry's like, I never even been on Twitter before. Until I'm quoted about how much I love Bill O'Brien. Ross, they need a complete house cleaning, starting with Easter v. And moving on down. You didn't even put the one with the clown emoji.

Go ahead. Oh, how do you describe that? Just clown face emoji. Okay. A face palm emoji followed by a clown face emoji. In response to Joe Barry, John Perry's comments. Dang, I keep calling him. Stop calling that. I'm sorry. Get your proper Perry's right. I'm sorry.

Can you believe it or not on John Perry? How about Believe it or not Perry's? Okay. Gaylord? Yes. Steve. Tyler. John, Joe. Jim, the former game show host. I don't know that guy.

Perry Mason? No, stay with Perry's in the last name. Okay. Let's go to Alex in the north side on 790. Hi, Alex. Well, how the hell are you, fancy, Matt? I'm wonderful. Thank you for calling.

Well, I hadn't spoken to you in a while. Every time I call you, I've got to remind you that we go back to PGS Day. So it's just a long-lost family relative. I'm back again. All right, welcome back. I had a question about, is it, am I hearing that you would prefer? JVG as the rocket head coach? No, I have no preference whatsoever.

I am very close to John Lucas, so there's a part of me that would like for him to be the head coach. I don't know anything about Stephen Silas. I do know about Jeff Van Gundy. I really don't have any. I have no preference over it. I just, if somebody said, hey, put a bet down, who would you go with?

I'm still probably lean towards Jeff Van Gundy. Okay, and I was just wondering, is he on board with the firing of three the way we are nowadays? Is he on board with that? I don't know. I don't know what, I mean, Jeff Van Gunney's been 15 years removed from coaching, so I don't know what he's on board with.

I'm assuming that he understands the league has changed a lot since he's been a head coach. I had one final question. I heard earlier that you had a beer with Chuck Norris. I did. How did he open it? With his teeth. I just heard a one of those, you read one of those signs that apparently he has a fist that comes out of his beard and punches people in the face. or open the doors or open the big things or something like that.

Yeah, don't you think he's one of the greatest badasses in America history? Chuck Norris is my guy, man. Chuck Lord. All right, talk to you soon. Appreciate it. Do you think Chuck Norris is a badass, or do you think it's just all sensationalized television? No, he was a, like, a credential.

I think he was an actual karate champion. You know, we've never done a, we've never done any Fantasy Five badasses. Oh, what a sense? It's very, it's very subjective, though, because you have the, take away what the person is in real life compared to what he would be on camera, right? Yes.

Like Arnold Schwarzenegger, do you think he would be a guy I mean, he did something like this. Like Sylvester Stallone. I'm trying to remember what the... Rambo's an all-American badass. Yeah, but I'm going to counter that with Frank Stallone, so you got no chance.

See? Yeah, he had some work done back then. But he still, I mean, he's only about 5-6, 5-7. Chuck Norris. Oh, okay. No, he's not that short, is he? I think so. Really?

I think so. He was like, I thought it was like a national karate champion or something like that. Doesn't mean he can't be five, six or five, seven. That's true. How tall is what does it say? Five ten, it says on here on the, on the Google. All I can tell you is what his wife was significantly younger and taller. And hotter?

Well, I don't never thought. I never thought that Chuck Norris was hot to begin with. I'm going to have to agree with you on that one. All right. 212 on the Matt Thomas. Do you have a preference than a Rockets coach? If I gave you the... Stephen Silas.

Because you just know more about the other two. Jeff and he's been out of touch. I mean, John Lucas, I just don't, is more of an unknown to me, hadn't coached as a head coached for 15 years. So you're just concerned about the time gaps of those two years.

I want somebody who's been around smart coaches, who's been a top assistant, and that would be Stephen Silas, and he's been around Rick Carlisle and others. So I think he would do a good job. But I don't know. Here's the thing. Well, James,

and Russ want that. Rookie coach with two veteran players, kind of set in their ways. Tell you, this is player-driven. Okay. Well, I don't know why they would have an issue with them. You would hope they wouldn't. You would hope that they need to win a championship before they retire.

That if the Rockets believe that Stephen Silas is the best guy to go for, they should be all in on that. All right. That's one on. Okay, let's do it. That the new general manager, Rafael Stone, and the ownership group has done all their due diligence, have checked all.

let's face it. Do you think that Russ and James and any NBA player is doing a lot of background checks in Stephen Silas? Unless James called, I don't know, who would he call? Dirk and say, hey, Dirk, was Silas a good guy? Harrison Barnes?

Tim Hardaway Jr.? Does Russ... Does Russ call Tim Hardaway Jr. and say, what do you think about this guy? Maybe. I guess that could happen for sure. Luca Dantzich. Luca Donchage's mom?

James is going to ask, hey, what's your mom up to? I mean, we all kind of would like to know. 214 to the Matt Thomas show, 713, 212, 790. Famous Perrys today, I'm believing or not? Sure. All right, we're giving away Raging Cajun gift cards, so you'll want to make sure you want to play for that coming up at about to 35 minutes. I want to tell you right now about a family I joined recently,

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One and six to finish five and 11. I feel very firm with that. We were Rockets coached next. Hopefully in the next 40 minutes Brendan's gut feeling will be wrong, but he's still holding out hope. He has not stopped looking at his watch to make sure he's got every possible minute available to him to see if the Rockets make a coach the next 40 or so minutes. So my son Cameron Ross, very rarely text me. It's either for money or how the cougars are doing. How many times you take him to Costco

when you're up and love it? Just one trip to the grocery store. He didn't want to go to Costco. He actually saved us some money. I was expecting to spend several hundred dollars. We just went to the local United Supermarkets, whatever it was. What's he like the dorm weed man or something? How is he making money up there? He's in his own apartment now. Okay. Dorm weed.

You think such terrible things in my children. I'm just kidding, Matt. All right. I was wondering how he's making a little extra cash on the side. By the kids aren't smoking dope anymore. They're doing the vaping. That's what the kids are doing. Yeah, they vape the weed then.

Yes. So whenever he texts me, I always go, man, my son must want to check and see how I'm doing. he says, Dad, can you get me some Tiger Woods at the Shell Houston Open tickets? Wow, he just asked you for tickets? First thing I thought to myself was, Tigers never come to Houston or has not been to Houston in a long time. I think the last time he was in Houston was for the champ, the, not the tour,

it might have been the tour championship, but they have the big, the year-end event at the Champions Golf Club. It's been a long, long, long time. But he's, he had not gone to Shell Houston Open in a very, very long time. Well, this year, you don't know this or not, but this year's Houston Open, which is run by the Astros, is the weekend before the Masters. And it's a great opportunity for people to tune up before they go to Augusta. So we didn't have confirmation when he originally sent the text to us. And today it was reported that Tiger is not coming to Houston and that he's going to prep for the Masters at his home in nearby in Orlando, Florida.

That's unfortunate. it. So there's always been this talk about why Tiger doesn't like coming here. Typically, and what I've been told for years, and maybe somebody has some more inside information than I do, that it's because the allergy season is very, very bad when the normal shell Houston Open, it's not shell anymore, but when the normal Houston Open takes place. And that the, you know, we're a bad allergy sitting, really, really bad for those people that have allergy issues. And that he has never performed well because of the allergy stuff. Alergies aren't going to be in play in early November.

I wonder if we did something here, whether he got a fan said something wrong, or a meal went wrong, or a hotel went bad. Because Tiger Woods has played golf with Jim Crane before. I think Tiger knows Jim a little bit. You would think of all the years for Tiger to come back to Houston. It would be this year to get warmed up for the Masters, which is in November, which normally takes. place in April.

So I think generally speaking, I don't know how many people would be able to go to this Houston Open event, but to get Tiger here for the first time in forever would be a huge, huge deal. But thus, it's not going to happen because he has said he's going to work at home. Because he hates Houston. He must, right? I don't know. What's not to like?

I mean, it is kind of out there and humble. No, no, no, no. Oh, that's right. They went to more. That's right. They moved it. Yeah. I forgot. And if anybody knows, Memorial Park's great to get a Memorial Drive and see the girls running.

Matt. What? You're saying what I'm saying what you're thinking. I don't go out there and watch women run. Well, then that's your fault. I mean, if I have to go to Toyota Center and it's around traffic time, I'm going to take a right. I'm taking a convenient right.

I'm taking Memorial because there's less traffic. It's a responsible thing to do to get there on time. Yes. You don't take any time to see who's running or walking. Well, I'm not. Maybe if I'm at a red light, perhaps. Same for me. Me? I don't go off on the side of the road and stare at them.

Please focus on the road, Matt. I don't do that either. Yeah, I'm just saying that it beats looking in 59. It beats what? Being on 59. There's no beating on Memorial, Matt. Come on now. I don't disagree.

But you tell me, anybody that drives them, there are people in this town. I know you warm-blooded males do this. They go on Memorial drive just to see what's out there at, say, 435 o'clock on a day. As you're going to go make a round around Memorial, like you have nothing else to do? and you just go out. No, I'm saying if you've got to go downtown from the Galleria, your best bed, if you need a little something to look scenery, you want to see what's happening on the memorial. Well, it's beautiful out there.

There's trees and grass. A bunch of eight, nine's running around. I'm right. I've got no comment, man. Because you don't want to, you don't want to accept my, my profound knowledge on this. Okay. Anyways, what were we talking about? Tiger Woods.

Tiger. So now did your son say, did he rescind his offer? No, I said, Tiger's not coming and he responded, damn it. And that was it. That was it. All right, good talk, son. You know, well.

Miss you. How's it going? Looking forward to seeing you at Thanksgiving. Yeah, Thanksgiving is coming up. Ungrateful. So what if Tiger would have come? Would he want me to fly his ass down here to go see Tiger play? Man, was he going to drive?

Make a roadie? Not for nine hours. No, would you go nine hours down? watch and play two rounds and go back for nine hours? Oh, hell no. Make a weekend of it. Not in West Texas, you can't. It's snowing there, by the way.

Is it? Oh, yeah. Oh, they got our cold front that we got, right? They get about two days earlier than we do. So just a little reminder, for those people that are trying to send their kids away to school, they're going to appreciate you for about a minute and a half, and they're going to start asking for money and tickets to see Tiger Woods playing an event that he's on at. Well, at least you only had to make one grocery store trip while you're up to.

It's true. He did save me some money that way. He's got a job. He does. He's going to get his degree, I think. Well, hopefully. What's his major? Business. Oh, business. Business.

Okay. He wants to get into sports. I'm trying to push him away from him. In what capacity? Anything. He must be a host? No, no, no, not media, no. Like, I could see him, well, he wanted to be a general manager in baseball until I said

you have to have tremendous math skills and language skills, and he both barely passed both of those. So he said, never mind. He's a Wago worked for the Rockets. I said, you better have, like, triple, you know, trigonometry and calculus in your system. Oh, I don't do very well in math. I quit that.

So I could see him selling, you know, maybe tickets or sweets or something like that. Yeah, you're going to get him a little nepotism job somewhere, right? That's what you're supposed to do. Everybody uses nepotism. I guess so. If your nephews called you and said, I want to get into radio. I don't know you.

He would not. I'm there for them. If he wants to get in it, but I mean, I can't do his job for him. Yeah, you can get him in tickets sales. My sister did that for a little while for the Rockets.

Yeah, it's fun. It doesn't make a lot of money, but it's fun. It might be a tough sale this year. Well, the problem is I don't know what they're going to say. By the way, there was a sham's put out of tweet just a minute ago

about game presentation, which affects me, obviously. Yeah, Matt. Are you going to be able to out there? Are you going to be due on the PA with a mask on or what? Well, here's what they're saying. Let me make sure to get this right. So I don't want to mis-inform you on the enhanced theatrical lighting.

This is what they're calling. Like the Lakers lights? It says the NBA has sent out its 30 teams, the game presentation protocols for 2021 in conditions of limited slash no fans. Oh, enhanced theatrical lighting as in so we can't see that there's no crowd? Yes. Like the Lakers do.

I like the Lakers lights. Yeah, nobody wants to see empty seats. And I think the whole digital seat thing was kind of a bore. And I think the pop-up things, whatever those things were, those cardboard things, kind of ran its course and basically. Yeah, the Rockets, the Rockets empty seats have been an eyesore even when there wasn't a pandemic. Enhanced theatrical lighting, meaning darken up the arena. Yes. crowd from arena noises from NBA 2K and pre-recorded chants.

So you get the Houston Rockets chant going. And it also says possibility of team arena entertainers, meaning your mascots and your dancers and that kind of thing. That's not like when vanilla ice comes in town or something like that. No, they don't even do anything for halftime, no. Oh, why not? Because no one's going to be there. What else is cool Mo D going to do at this time?

That's a good question. Or tag team. Shaka Khan. Yeah. What is I mean? And what a red panda? What's Red Panda going to do now? Let me tell you something.

Red Panda is freaking out. Red Panda is out of work right now. Red Panda is in a spot where her living is made in arenas. Yeah. The rubber boy. What are they all going to do? Well, how about the guy that has the two stick figures to the left and the two stick figures the right? And they pretend they're like the Jackson 5 and the Supreme.

Not the Supremes, but the Commodores. Yeah. That guy's in real trouble too. The one guy I'm not. worried about not having a job is Simon says guy. I just don't haven't seen that one. Oh, he annoys me to no end. What does he do?

Simon says. And you have to like Simon says touch your face and you have to do whatever he says? Yeah. What he does is he gets like 20 fans out there and narrows it down to two. And then he says, Simon says, the best fans in the NBA are the Sacramento Kings. Three days later, I see him in Utah. The best fans in the NBA are the, you? Utah Jazz fans.

So Simon says it's a fraud is what you're saying. Simon says he'll say whenever he wants to say to get the money. Simon says we'll cut the check. Simon says, pay me, B. 2.30 on the bad top of his show. This show has been completely off the rails today. Thank you, Houston Texans. And Judy.

And Judy talking about... Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy. Former NFL head coach, Ted Bundy. What was the guy that killed the woman in the 60s? It's been in jail. Charlie Manson? Charlie Manson was the celebrity you saw in the bar.

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How bad do the New York Jets suck? Really bad. The answer is so bad. that Trevor Lawrence says he might stay for his senior season at Clemson. What did he say? What did he say that? He says he's leaving the door open about his football future, saying he plans on heading to the NFL, not, I should say despite previously saying he's going to the NFL at the end of this season.

He's leaving it up as a potential option. And that, frankly, is this. I'm six foot six. I have a big arm. I've had amazing success at Clemson. This year has been a complete CF when it comes to the camaraderie and being around it. And as much as I love Clemson, I do want to go to the NFL, except I don't want to play with the New York Jets. This sounds like to me, this is I don't want to play for the team known as the New York Jetsopalitans.

I have no interest in being with an organization that has been riddled in a mess since frankly Rex Ryan's been the head coach, right? Back-to-back AFC championship, South Championship games. And on top of that, Sam Darnold's already there. And on top of that, Adam Gase, the head coach is still there. He won't be there by the end of the season. You would hope not. I wouldn't think so. Lawrence, by the way, scheduled to graduate with a bachelor's degree in marketing in December.

So that isn't even an issue. so if he went back he could play for his masters or just go to a school for a year and just take nothing yeah I think Matt Leinard when he went back he just took like a ballroom dancing class just to say eligible but isn't that doesn't that reek of he doesn't want to play for the Jets yeah sounds like it if he doesn't want to come back

or Jacksonville for that matter whatever team is going to pick number one overall they're going to be terrible right yeah but look at what Sam Burrow I mean the Bengals were never known as a team I mean do you think that the Bengals have been a disaster for a long time But do you think he's miserable right now?

I mean, they're putting up big numbers. I think, and again, I don't know the Bengals very well. We need to get to know them a little bit because they'll be playing the Texans later this year. But it feels that they've got enough players to put up 40 points a game. They just can't stop anybody. But Burrell probably has having a better season than I think even a lot of people thought he was going to have. I mean, they have put up some serious points this year. Again, not enough.

And he still makes rookie mistakes. But I don't think Sam Darnel is having a miserable time in Cincinnati. I think the Jets culture is... Joe Burr, excuse me. I think the culture is so bad in New York. Why would you want to go there with all the promise that you are going to save this franchise when no one's been able to save the franchise? I mean, the Bengals have been thought it's broken for years. Baker Mayfield was number one overall to the Browns.

They've been thought of it's broken for years. But isn't the pressure in New York significantly more than it would be in Cincinnati? I think there's any pressure on the Jets. Well, I think there's pressure because it's New York City. I mean, I guess. But what, you have 10 beat riders in? in the Zoom instead of 15, instead of 5? Well, you've got a fan base of millions as compared to a fan base of a couple

hundred thousand and probably in Cincinnati. And again, I'm just, I'm throwing some numbers out there that aren't accurate. But my point is that any team that's associated with the Jets in New York in a big media area where every move is looked at and discussed, he's probably thinking himself, I can go somewhere else and have a lot more success and not face a scrutiny. I'm going to face in New York. Because Sam Darnold was pretty highly thought of coming out of college. Was he not?

Yes, yes. He's not lived up to that in New York at all. That's a reason why I think the Jets have the number one pick. They're going to take Trevor Lawrence. As they should. As they should. I mean, look, Kyler Murray. Do you think Kyler Murray has been helped by the fact that he was in Arizona playing for the

Cardinals than playing for the Jets or the Giants? I think so. You think it would be different? No, why? I think the pressure is not nearly as intense to be to work with Arizona with a very new coach as compared to being in New York. I think New York teams carry a, and maybe I'm just old school 20 years ago media talk, but I think the pressure in playing in New York adds to the level of insecurity with some of these guys that think, you know what?

Why don't want to go to one of these New York teams where they have been nothing but failures for a large period of time? I mean, it is, I mean, Baker Mayfield's been under tremendous pressure to succeed. they're in Cleveland. I just think in 2020 with the internet and with Sunday ticket and with, I mean, just cable networks and all in 24-hour cable news, I don't think anybody's necessarily under a bunch of more pressure. Personally, I don't think that Trevor Lawrence wouldn't be able to practice because of media distractions and somebody else, if he were not in New York, he would be okay.

All I will say is this. If the number one pick was going to be the show. The Carolina Panthers. I don't think he's saying such a thing like he's saying today. I think he's thinking the jets are a train wreck. They've been a train wreck. And all by the way, I don't need every tabloid in that city watching every move I make for a team

that's probably only going to win three or four football games next year. There's another team in New York who could get the number one overall pick. Either one for that matter, right? You know what? You're right. Every city because the NFL is so pipelor and carries some, much media. When you're the number one pick,

you're going to have a lot of scrutiny. I'm just telling you, I think even New York takes it to a different level. And it's not necessarily New York that he can't handle the pressure. I think it's the Jets have just been such a dumpster fire for such a long period of time

that he's probably saying, there's no sign of this team ever having a true culture change. That every general manager they've brought in, every coach they had brought in, it's just gone from bad to worse. You should have confidence in himself to say, I'm going to turn it around for us.

This is not out of the ordinary. Remember Eli Manning was a first round pick? And he's like, I'm not going to play in San Diego. Yeah, I mean, that was one time. That was 15 years ago, 16 years ago. It happened a few times. It's a two. And then, I mean, I can think of that in John Elway.

That's like twice in the last 40 years. Any other? I have to look at out. John Elway didn't want to be a Baltimore Colt. That is correct. He was going to go play baseball into the Broncos got him. I don't know. If you are the,

undisputed number one pick, you probably feel like you've got a little power that you can make the decision. You really can't, but in his mind, the only decision he can make is, I stay one more year and take my chance

that maybe the Jets or the Giants are the number one pick. What if he did it? And then the Jets were like, oh and 16 again. They were just terrible again. Well, put it this way. Let's say Detroit,

got the number one pick. Oof. Don't want to go to Detroit. Well, I mean, there wouldn't be nearly as much scrutiny. I mean, Joe Burroughs was the number one picking this draft, right?

Yes. He's not been on Monday night football yet. Haven't been on Sunday night football yet. Because the bingles suck. But the Jets would always figure out a way to get on there. The Jets and Giants just carry national cashier. They just do because of their New York. I would say the Giants more so because they've been successful.

I don't think the Jets have any national cachet right now. Well, they have natural cachet because... They're a national laughing stuff. They're a national laughing side. They don't carry any cashier. They carry it because Adam Gase, people are still stunned that he's the head coach. 713-212-5-790. The Kansas City Chiefs are a sexy team.

team right now because they're good. They're in Kansas City. Green Bay Packers are a sexy team because they're good. They're in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Mm-hmm. He'd rather go to those places. Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is a sexy nighttime TV NFL. They're in Tampa Bay. It's about players and success. I think he's thinking

why would I go to New York? The Jets suck. And by the way, if I want to go to a restaurant, I'm going to have 50 cameras staring at me going, why don't you throw that ball in the end zone with two minutes left to go in the game? Second, screw this. I'll take my chances maybe Buffalo will like a year later and I can go hang out in upstate New York instead. Nobody wants to go to Buffalo.

I've never been to Buffalo. One of the few major metropolitan cities I've never been to. So I don't even know if it's good or bad. I just know it's cold A.F. And they almost beat the Texans. Almost. Thanks to Deshawn Watson. Thanks to that. Who was that running back

that the team had last year that caught that pass? I don't remember. Taiwan Jones. Taiwan Jones. Taiwan Jones. Where's Taiwan Jones right now? He was on somebody's practice squad. I don't know if he's anywhere now. So he goes from catching a big pass in a playoff game to a practice squad.

Another great Texan just falls by the wayside. Oh, he's on the bills. Oddly enough. Well, does he fly to Buffalo and say, sorry, guys, I should never caught that pass? Maybe. Or maybe they were like, wow, that Taiwan Jones guy's really good. He's so good. We can't beat any.

He might as well join us. 245. Believe it or not, after I tell you about Big City Wings. A reminder, once again, the Big City Wings is Houston's wing joint. Big City Wings is the home of Bywold. get one free wings today at any of their eight, soon to be nine locations. Friends, do not miss out on this opportunity to get delicious wings, sauce and tossed the way that you want to.

And remember, today is two for Tuesday wings, bone in or boneless, plus, Ross, I always forget this. Three dollar Long Island iced teas from three o'clock to close. That's dangerously good. Cheap wings and three dollar Long Island teas? That's a recipe for yes. Planned for a safe right home. Adult beverages to go, open for dining,

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Joel Clack. Ross, you'll have your Rotten 5. And do the Texans finally enter the Rotten 5 mix? I don't know. There's a lot of crappy teams in the NFL, Matthew. And Ross, you'll also be looking for an NFL rider to help us with the trade deadline. There's an 0 and 7 team and 5 1 and 6 teams. They got... Are they going to be in the Rotten 5 tomorrow?

Just thinking about that tomorrow on the Rotten 5 plus Joel Clat and... And we've got something else going on. Oh, more gift cards to give away to Raging Cajun, which we'll be doing. By the way, shout out to my buddy Scott Hightower, director of catering over at Raging Cajon for dropping off some gift cards. We appreciate he's a big Cougar fan as well. So we'll be playing for that coming up in just a matter of seconds. Also, a reminder that Cougar Sports Magazine is tomorrow night from 7 o'clock until 8.

You'll hear a little bit from Dana. You'll hear a little bit from Kelvin Sampson. We'll go in the U of HB. It's got a great lead-in. Great's a relative term. Nightcap. 6 o'clock on Sports Talk 790. What do you have on tonight's show?

General fun and hilarity. General fun and hilarity. Let me guess. Headlines? We did that yesterday. I don't know. I like to do it once or twice a week. We'll see.

Maybe spin the wheel of topics. I look forward to hearing those topics. A lot of meat on the bone around the country, Matt. By the way, you lost your gut feeling. Oh, 10. Nine minutes. Look at you. You're down in the last second.

You're like, I've got to figure out a way to win. He's got it. If it happens during the next show, I'll be so pissed. Well, let's put it this way. I'm out of time to get credit today for it. But I could still get credit tomorrow if it happens in the next nine minutes. And by the way, smart call on your part by putting up your next gut feeling into the, what do you say? Everybody in the NFC West is going to make the play on?

Yeah, so I got like a few months. What, two months? That's a smart call. Five minutes left to go on the show. What should we do? We should play America's fastest growing sports game show. We simply called it, believe it or not, and here you sound words. You'll call 713212-5-790.

7-13-212-5-790. Today's edition of Believe it or Not, brought to you by Woodhouse Day Spas. Print out your gift card for the gift of relaxation at Houston. Woodhouse Spas.com, but now for Houston area location. Today, we celebrate famous parries after John Pee's. Perry, loved on Bill O'Brien. So ridiculous. I'll reach your statement about a famous Perry.

The statement's completely not only accurate. You'll say this. Believe it. If it's erroneous full of bunk and made up, you will say this. Not to believe it or not. It's a roll on Famous Perry's to win your prize. The prize today is a $25 gift card to Raging Cajun. Over on Richmond Avenue, some of the best Cajun food you will find anywhere in the city of

Houston. Thanks again to Scott and his crew at Raging Cajon for dropping out the gift cards, $25. But you first must believe it or not. Nathan on 790. Nathan, you're ready to play, believe it or not? Ready.

Nathan, Texan's wide receivers coach, John Perry, was a two-time all-Yanky conference selection as a wide receiver at New Hampshire. Believe it or not? Believe it. Yeah, he is. Sorry. Duh. How people in this town don't know

New Hampshire football is beside me. Let us continue. Paul on 790. Paul, you're ready to play Believe it or not? Believe it. Tyler Perry is on the board for the Screenwriters Guild of America. Believe it or not. Not.

Statement number two for the win. A Perry is an alcoholic beverage made from fermented pears and is popular in England. Believe it or not. Not. Oh, it is. I love parries. I'd give it a shot. Fermented pear?

Pear sounds great. I tried for sure. Line three. Daniel on 790, Daniel, ready to play, believe it or not. You better believe it. Growing up, Aerosmith guitarist Joe Perry wanted to be a marine biologist like his hero, Jacques Cousteau. Believe it or not. Better believe it. Believe it. Statement number two for the win. Perry, Texas is an unincorporated territory southeast of Waco. Believe it or not. You better believe that one, too. All right. on a gift card. Congratulations. Line four is Robert on

790. Robert, you ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. Robert, William, the refrigerator Perry, is dead. Believe it or not? Not. Now he's alive, you're right. Statement number two for the win. Katie Perry's real last name is Hudson. She used her

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Believe it. Matthew Perry practiced tennis as many as 10 hours a day as a child and was a top-ranked junior player. Believe it or not. Believe it. Believe it is right. $25. Congratulations.

$25 gift card winners. We may give away some more of those tomorrow. here on a Wednesday edition of the Matt Thomas show. For Brandon and for Ross, I'm Matt. Thanks again to all of you for taking part in gut feelings. Thanks for our guest, Aaron Reese and the Athletic. You can follow him on Twitter, Aaron J. Reese. Thanks to Judy.

Thanks to Judy for confusing mass murderers with former football coaches. And thanks to Rex Ryan for dropping six F bombs during my dinner in Washington, D.C. Adam Clanton, Adam Wexer. They never drop A-bombs. They're part of the A team, and they're up next on 7-0.