The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Jerry Sloan, NFL Rule Changes, Brian T. Smith, Fantasy 5 Favorite Rockets

Episode Date: May 22, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. No, it's not football Friday. It's everything Friday. It's anything goes Friday. It's anything goes Friday. We came back in core of the Texans because they ain't playing for a while.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You hear that, Indy? I know Indy, you love you some football, but it ain't football season. It could be the return of the NBA before we know it. Technically, it's nothing season, except for Korean baseball in German Bundesliga. Let me tell you some. We can break down the KBO like nobody else's business. Let's go Dusan Bears. How are my KT. Wizz doing?
Starting point is 00:01:11 I think they're out of complete last place. I think they're in like second to last place. You know, Matt, I actually saw ESPN tweet something out yesterday that their offense is the best in the league, but they have the worst pitching staff in all. That's like that would be exactly what I would root for. That's entertainment. Score a lot of runs, can't get any outs. Yeah, they're up to, they were one in seven. Now they're six and eight.
Starting point is 00:01:29 So on a lot. Progress, Matt. Yeah. Let's go whiz. N. N.T. Dinos are 12 and 2 leading the league. Ducon Bears at 8 and 6. You're always trying to bag.
Starting point is 00:01:39 You're always trying to brag on what you got. I know. Dinos is, that's Joe's team. That's my squad. All right. Yeah, that squad got him free things on the way. How many teams make the playoffs in the old KBO?
Starting point is 00:01:51 I have no clue. Okay. So we are not your official home of KBO baseball. I mean, we are, but we just don't know all the rules? What is happening in the Bundeslich? Wundas Liga?
Starting point is 00:02:04 There's a big game, Dortman versus Wolfburgs tomorrow at 8.30 at 8.m. I got Wolfberg plus the goal and a half. Okay. I'll bet on you. I'll make a bet with you. They have lines on them. You didn't
Starting point is 00:02:14 bet soccer one one time we were in there. We bet WNBA. Is that correct? I mean, I bet WNBA. I've bet soccer as well before. I'm telling you, if you ever go, Vegas is opening up in a couple weeks. If you are going to, they're going to open
Starting point is 00:02:28 the books, If you like baseball, and I agree, you can't do this now. But when baseball returns, bet the first five innings of every baseball game. You won't have a dog in the fight. You just want a lot of runs being scored. That's how I entertain myself
Starting point is 00:02:42 during the summertime when it comes to that. That's good. Baruchia Dortman at a minus 140. Wolfsburg plus 350. And then draw a plus 290. Am I getting a goal and a half? There's no goal line on this one. Dang.
Starting point is 00:02:55 The total is three. All right. I'm sure you want the under. Duh, let's do over under 0.5? I just said 3. Oh, is it 3? It would be a higher scoring affair. Could be.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Okay. It is a Friday edition of the Matt Thomas show where we ask you guys to call in, if you'd like, if so choose. 713-212-5-790. Ross explained the essence for the audience of anything goes Friday. Well, Matthew, Monday through Thursday here on Sports Talk 790. Well, the Matt Thomas show has the longest leash in the biz. You can basically talk about anything you want, and the leash gets even longer on a Friday. If you have Memorial Day plans coming up and you need some advice for Matt, how many people to have in your home, who to invite.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I don't know, Matt, are you a grill master now at this point, I think? No, just a griller, but not a grill master. Okay. So if you need tips on that, I don't know, ask maybe Joe or somebody else. There's also, of course, baseball possibly coming back, basketball, possibly coming back. We can talk about all that kind of good stuff. Jerry Sloan has died at age 78. I'm sure Matt wants to get deep into that conversation.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Won't be deep. It'll be, I do want to bring it up. Okay. And if you got any advice you need for me, I'm here for you. And there's another layer to the Kentucky cheerleading story. The alumni are backing the coaches and staff and saying they shouldn't have been fired. Oh, I'll think you're really like there's video or something. Matt, calm down.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm not saying calm, but you someone says another layer to it. You're thinking videos of hot young cheerleaders. It's what is immediately where your mind went is what you're saying. As did 89% of the audience. No, that's not what I was thinking. Well, then you're special. Hey, also today on the. radio program coming up at 1230. We have Joe George with an office-based dilemma.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Hmm. I'm intrigued. And he said, hey, I want to bring this up to you. And I said, could this be good enough to be a segment on the show? And he goes, I think it could be. So you don't know what it's about. I don't know what it's about. But Joe George does. I just need to know if I'm a terrible person. Well, what we'll do is not only will we give you our opinions, we'll let our audience, maybe we'll get a little instipal going. We haven't done an instapal in a long time. I don't even know if anybody's listening. I feel like it's just a three of us talking.
Starting point is 00:04:59 No, people are listening, Matt. Are you sure? Thousands. Hundreds. Yes. All right, real quick on Jerry Sloan. And I don't know if either one of you guys have somebody in your life when it comes to sports that will fit this same mold. So I'll just say this.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Guys from a distance that you hated, but when you got a little closer to them, you respected the hell out of them. And for me, that's Jerry Sloan. I think I've told you this before. I lived in Salt Lake City for two years. Covered the jazz. Went to probably about 10 or 11 games a year. And this is when they were not very good jazz. This is post-Malone, post-Stocton.
Starting point is 00:05:40 This was the Chris Humphrey's Days, if you will. This was the Carlos Boozer. This was the Matt Harpering, Rajah Bell, Mimeto Kerr, André Carolenko Jazz. Like 40-win jazz teams. and I was really, again, it was very difficult to live in Salt Lake City as strong as I felt towards the Houston Rockets to go there and, hey, everybody, Colin, let's talk about how the jazz are going to be awesome tonight? It was very, very difficult for me to do. But man, when you get to know, when you got, I got to know him, he didn't know me, but I just got to go to some press conferences, some couple of practices. I really, really appreciated Jerry Sloan.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I thought he was an excellent, excellent coach. I think he was not afraid to pull punches. I think he was that he wasn't get off my lawn guy, but man, Ross, he wanted it done the old school way. He wanted you to play defense. He wanted you to play hard every single minute. He wasn't afraid to curse you out on the court or off. He wasn't afraid to admonish when things were not going well
Starting point is 00:06:49 and say some bad things and kind of rip his team, but he was also the first ones to love on him. And I just, I thought it was fantastic. And as much as I've grown to hate, you know, because you know, if you're a Houston rocket fan, you just hate the Utah Jazz. It just comes when you're born in your pores. It's you hate Stockton, you hate Malone,
Starting point is 00:07:08 you hate Antoine Carr, although he play a little bit of Rockets. You definitely hate Greg Oster Tag. You hate Adam Keeve. Oh, I go on and on him. Jeff Hornacek. Matt Harpering. But you respected Jerry Sloan. So he passed away today at the age of 70.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I did see him the last time we were there in very frail condition. He had been battling dementia and Parkinson's and just a really, really good, I don't know what he was like as a person, but every player that's ever been around him of players just had tremendous respect for him. And so rest in peace to Jerry Sloan. Apparently a hell of a basketball player, too, never saw him play with the Chicago Bulls, but certainly saw him coach. And some of the great rivalries and Rocket's history involved Jerry Sloan coaching those Utah jazz. These number is retired by the Bulls.
Starting point is 00:07:54 He was one of their first, he might be the first number retired by the Bulls. Yeah. But from what I understand, he was as scrappy of a player as he was as a coach. Okay. I can see that. A scrapper. Yeah. So Jerry Sloan passing away at the age of 78.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Other things going on today. This NFL rules thing is really bothering me. Which one? The Philadelphia Eagles basically offering up for the competition committee the ability to basically eliminate, for the most part, the onside kick. If you trail in a game, and I believe you're allowed to do this twice, am I wrong on that, Joe? It doesn't matter when it happens. No, there is no clarification on when you can do it, but just twice.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And you have to be behind. You can't be in a tie. You have to be behind. Let's say you score a touchdown sports RV, and you are now, it's a minute nine left to go, and you're down 20 to 14 or whatever, 20 to 17. not really matter what you're down. Instead of trying to go for the onside kick, they're going to give you the ball,
Starting point is 00:08:56 what, at your own 20-yard line or 25-yard line? 25. 25, and you have one play to get 15 yards to get to your 40. If you get that first down, you maintain possession. One play, 15 yards. If you're down, and you can do it twice. It feels, and I was listening to Adam and talking about this yesterday
Starting point is 00:09:19 in their show, it feels, ridiculously gimmicky. Very video game-ish, very let's make-up rules and we're playing in the backyard kind of thing. I know the onsite kick doesn't have a great percentage, but at least the onsite kick has been a long part of the NFL game. This is just like, hey, let's watch a team kick somebody's ass for 58 minutes and 30 seconds,
Starting point is 00:09:45 and let's give another team who hasn't been able to kick ass for 5830 a little gimmicky way to get back in the game with the final 90 seconds. I could easily debate both sides of this saying, hey, look, the onsite doesn't work. You still have to get your 15 yards. You're still putting yourself behind the eight ball if you don't get the first down.
Starting point is 00:10:04 It just feels gimmicky. Everything that's a football rule is gimmicky in the first place. Like when you punt, they can touch the ball, but if they don't touch the ball, you touch the ball to down it, but if they touch the ball and don't recover the ball, you can get the ball. It doesn't. It's just what we're used to.
Starting point is 00:10:22 That's what I'm saying. So, I mean, the onside kick rule. Well, you can kick it. You have to kick it to them. But once it passes 10 yards, you can kind of get it, but you got to pop it up in the air. It's all kind of. But the onsite kick's been around forever, though, right? Has it not been?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yes. That's what I'm just saying, though, anything that we think as a rule of a rule, it's just kind of, if there's a change, it just kind of is what it is. There's not a whole lot of logic to it. And I will say that apparently, onside kicks are getting recovered at like six. percent clip and football outsider says a fourth and five would be converted probably about a 12 percent clip fourth and 15 NFL teams between 2015 and 2019 were had a 24 percent success rate in 2019 it was 29 percent a 24 and 29 a fourth fourth and 15 that's crazy so then it would
Starting point is 00:11:09 so would go that much up that much so basically saying a little little less than a quarter to the time so I'll throw it out there I think it's gimmicky I hate for games to be all of a sudden flipped, it would be like to me in the NBA where baskets all a sudden counted more points in the final two minutes of a quarter. Yeah, my argument was just that before they changed the rule where you couldn't run up 10 yards, on-side kicks recovery rate was about 15% was the average year over year. As high as 23% as low as like 12% I saw. So because when they change the rules of for safety for a kickoff, they fundamentally change
Starting point is 00:11:46 what an on-side kick was. and that's why it's no longer effective. So I like this that I think it counterbalances that they basically effectively took away the onside kick. Now they're trying to replace it with something else. That's why I like it personally. Because at one point the onside kick was there was a good success rate. Yeah, I remember 20 years ago,
Starting point is 00:12:04 my onside, you really had to really have to ball out for it. Now, if the kick isn't absolutely 100% perfect, you've got a really difficult chance of making it happen. And again, you could convince me otherwise, and maybe y'all would do that today. it just feels like a little freakish play in the middle of the game that would not be because even when it's a kickoff when teams score it is still a kick the ball is still kicked this is now just a random ass play just to allow a team to get back into it yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:12:35 but when did the NBA institute that rule where if you call a timeout you can advance the ball to half court it wasn't always in play no that's right but it was it was made to make the game interesting if another team was down, right? We'll get some more of this coming up. To me, it's like that. All right, we have office-based dilemmas coming up. We have Brian T. Smith at 2 o'clock today. And the Fantasy 5 is going to be a good one.
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Starting point is 00:13:50 That it drops it down with a left hand hammer. This is Coach Dan Tonin. Matt Thomas is a great guy. And I always listen to the radio show. On mute. What a shot. Time is 1220. Anything goes Friday.
Starting point is 00:14:15 713, 212, 790. If you'd like to join us today, we have a office space dilemma. And we'll let Insipole help out. If anybody's out there wants to help with this because Ross and I only own two opinions, so my thought is
Starting point is 00:14:32 we're probably going to lean towards crushing you because it makes it for better radio. That's fair. But if you were in the right, I'm not going to blame you. So we'll have that for you come up in 10 minutes. Somebody named Keith Smith, he writes for Yahoo on the NBA. They have writers still? Well, I don't
Starting point is 00:14:47 think he works full-time for them. Because he says he's still looking for full-time employment at basketball. And he puts his email out there. I'm hoping for the best for Keith Smith. He's got 40,000 followers. I mean, I guess he's verified. That's more than Matt.
Starting point is 00:15:03 We're never getting to 30, but that's the issue for another day. Keith Smith NBA, and this is off of a friend's Twitter account, said told today that if the NBA does resume with all 30 teams at a single site, this is single site, game days are likely to look like Summer League. Games would almost be all day long starting at around noon Eastern until the regular season is complete. Playoffs would follow a more regular schedule. Rockets Basketball against the Indiana Pacers.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Coverage begins at 1 o'clock on a Thursday. I'll do a noontime launchpad. Right here on Sports Talk 70. This is going to be interesting for me because I don't know how we're going to handle our broadcast arrangements. Again, it's pure speculation if we would go, we would not go. I would guess you wouldn't go. Yeah, but we have Bill Orell and Craig
Starting point is 00:15:57 would Bill do some of the games? Craig do some. I mean, it doesn't, I don't know what, like I may be with you or I may not be with you. They might put you on the Spanish broadcast or something. I speak zero Spanish. Now, we could also, with Craig and I could work together, I mean, make it the incredible one-two punch
Starting point is 00:16:11 like we normally do on Rockets basketball. But I don't know. But, yeah, it could be, like NBA TV could be like a marathon channel of one game after the other. And you know NBA TV's going to put these games on, right? I would hope so. Plus the locals. plus ESPNs, plus TNTs, and ABCs.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Bull sounded hopeful yesterday that maybe the playoff coverage would be extended for television. Meaning what? The local teams? Yeah, because normally it's just with the first round. First round, that's it. Yeah, so he sounded hopeful that maybe they get to do more games this year. Who said this? Matt Bullard.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Did he really? He said he was hopeful. Well, hopeful and the inside info is two different things. Maybe it was one of those hopeful wink-wink. When the Rockets were playing, when the Rockets were playing, When the Rockets were playing for the NBA championship, they got to go as far as, I think, game two of the conference finals. So I don't know if they let them go that far. That's how you make up television contracts, though, if you let the local TV keep going.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Because here's the thing, as we talked about before, and I've talked to with this, the full payout for regional TV networks. That's the AT&Ts. That's the Foxes, you know, Fox Sports, Arizona, Fox Sports Detroit revolves around 70 broadcast. So once you hit 70, that's when apparently they get the full payouts, is from what I understand. So maybe that's the easier way. Because if you're going to cut their regular season, if you're only going to play four or five games,
Starting point is 00:17:38 you're going to have to use some playoff games in order to get to that 70 mark. So it makes sense. But I mean, if you get to like 66 out of 70, they're just going to get, wouldn't they give you a percentage of the money or no? It would seem like they should. But I'm just piggybacking off of what Bold told you guys the other day
Starting point is 00:17:56 is that if they could, because that'd be cool because again one of the things that people do complain about is that like there's a lot of people that hate Reggie Miller and a lot of people that believe the national guys just don't have a firm grasp and plus
Starting point is 00:18:10 you also want to hear the local perspective you want to hear Bull and Craig or Bull and Bill R.L. Call a game because that's your Houston perspective. Those are the guys that want in radio we do that all the time but in television after the first round in years past They just say goodbye, so long.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So maybe they'll give a little opportunity for those local TV stations to give the fan base in those particular areas a little more of a flavor than what you want to hear. A little bias, if you will. But that's okay, right? I like the national perspectives, too. I mean, I'm indifferent to it, frankly. Yeah. If it's Reggie Miller's national perspective, I don't care that much. Like, is Reggie the most irritating guy right now on television?
Starting point is 00:18:53 As far as calling games? Yeah, like you're, because you know me, there's no one that I go, I'm not like, well, there's that's not true. Weber's kind of bad too. I don't, if Beth Mowlands is calling a game, I can't listen to it. Because you're sexist. No, because I just, the ears just tend to bleed. But that's a different issue for a different time. I'm sure she's a wonderful person. But is, so does Weber bother you? He's not good. I'm not a Weber guy. Reggie Miller.
Starting point is 00:19:17 He's with, I like Reggie. But Reggie's with Kevin Harlan, right? Reggie's with Kevin. See, that's the thing. Like, Harlan is one of my faves. And then Reggie, I was like, but I have to listen to Reggie. It's just a goes back.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You like Reggie on the calls? Yeah, I kind of like Reggie. I like Harlan so much I can tolerate. Maybe that's why I like Reggie. Because of Harlan. That's a good point. Yeah. Because Harlan's like the goat.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, exactly. That's why you're liking the call because Kevin's a guy. Evan Harland's on it and then Reggie spouts something stupid. Like his keys to a win or like try hard. Doris Burke, yes or no? Yes. I like Doris Burke. I'll go with Reggie.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I mean, uh, Doris. Come on, Ross. What? Mark Jackson by himself? No. No. Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yes. Van Gundy by himself. Not as good without Mark Jackson. I couldn't tell you the last time I remember hearing Van Gundy by himself. Well, he'll do games in Houston all the time. by himself. Am I forgetting anybody else? That you guys would recognize in terms of broadcasters?
Starting point is 00:20:17 No, I think I'm good, right? Is anybody else that does a game? Who else? Did Brent Barry still do him? Kevin McHale? Kevin will do him once in a while. Yeah, Kevin's good. Kevin's always good in that.
Starting point is 00:20:29 People like Brent Barry. I mean, his delivery's not great, but the analysis is good. Brent's with the San Antonio Spurs now. Okay, he was doing games, though, which the last couple years. Yeah, but now he's with the spurs. Okay. I think it's about it.
Starting point is 00:20:44 All right. So, again, this is Keith Smith, NBA. By the way, looking for work. If you can help him get a job in writing and journalism, basketball, he'd love to hear from you. He says, games would be almost all day long, starting around 12 noon Eastern until the regular season's complete playoffs would follow a more regular schedule. God, could you imagine a day where you just watching one game after the other for hours? Oh, that's awesome. Baseball might be in the same spot, too, when you think about it.
Starting point is 00:21:11 especially because look, MLB Network needs to put games on. They've missed a lot of revenue. 713212-579 if you'd like to join us today. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Also today in the world of sports, the SEC is going to allow campus voluntary workouts for student athletes starting June the 8th. You know what that means to me, boys? The SEC's like, we're going to play football this year.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And if y'all can't do it, too damn bad. you. There might be only 14 teams that play college football this year, boys, and it may all be in the SEC. That'd be still good football. I mean, I'm not going to complain if that's what we do. It's not like the mid-Americans going, hey, men, America, we're going on. And I'm like, who? If they could do just the SEC, then do a four-team playoff, and I would be perfectly content with recognizing that team as the national champion. Well, hell, four, that usually half the teams come from the SEC, so it's not like to be something out of the ordinary. Well, it's like Remember how to A&M was saying that Fresno State's going to come play here?
Starting point is 00:22:12 They're ready to go do that. Colorado's coming here. This is going to be fractured, but yet very, very interesting at the same time. Who sits out this year and at what cost happens if they sit out? And what schools are going to lose programs and what schools are going to be able to put 30,000 people in their stadium? And what schools are going to be able to put 5,000? Hell, Alabama's like, we're not going to, we don't social distance here instead of Alabama. We need as many of you in there as possible because Nick saying that $6 million contract doesn't pay for itself.
Starting point is 00:22:46 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we ask of you to please listen to the next segment especially close because our man Joe George, who pays attention to our show most times, except for usually after 2 o'clock, has a office-based dilemma he must address to us. So we'll help him with that in a matter of moments. 1228 here on the Matt Thomas show if you'd like to join us. 713212-5-790 with a message right now for TGS insurance. Saving money on your home policy can happen very easily. As you listen to the show, get to your cell phone and text the word money. M-O-N-E-Y to 23-23-23. M-O-N-E-Y to 23-23, and start saving large amounts of money with TGS insurance. You text the word money. They'll ask you for your address. You text it back in about 15 seconds after that. You'll go to quote that's probably going to save you 100. if not thousands of dollars.
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Starting point is 00:24:24 Anything goes Friday on 790, which means sometimes when a coworker comes in the office and says, Matt, I've got an office space to limit. We're here to help you, guide you, Joe, because I feel like I need to give you the proper advice in order to advance your very young career. I'll do a great start, and I'm all looking for the best for you. So this is full... It's a new job in five years good. No, it's not. Six years. No, no, it's frankly embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Well, so you kind of need to stick around here for a while. I love two of them by choice. To be fair. Two by choice and two times you got fired. Well, no, this is my fourth job. So you got two by choice, one, they let you go. Yeah. And now you're here with us.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yes. Okay. And you've seemed pretty happy? I'm very happy here. We're a decent bunch to hang out with? I'm very happier than I've been in five years. Well, probably is less drama as perhaps other places in your life? Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Okay. Do you want any music to put behind your office-based drama? I'm trying to build this up because Ross had to take a phone call off air for a minute, so I'm trying to kill a little bit of time. And this doesn't do with the radio business, right? This is just a good... No, this is just like straight office etiquette. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Well, is there layers of the story, or is this pretty quick? I think it's pretty simple. I don't think it's one of those things where it's just, it's part of the new norm that we live in. I'll step back, turn my microphone off. and let you present to the audience an office-based dilemma. Okay, so we always know there's elevator etiquette. So I went to get on the elevator when I got to work today. Now, I don't wear a mask here because I'm just going to work.
Starting point is 00:26:03 We're going up, not wearing one. There was a lady waiting for the elevator. She had pushed the button. She was wearing a mask. And the elevator closest to me opened. So I walked in. she then looked at me with like horror in her eyes
Starting point is 00:26:20 because I didn't have maybe it's because I didn't have a mask on or she just didn't want to share the elevator for me but she wouldn't get on the elevator so she was there first am I supposed to get off the elevator because she won't get on because she doesn't feel comfortable
Starting point is 00:26:36 sharing the elevator with someone right now why don't you let her get on the elevator first because it was I was standing right next to it like she was by the far left elevators, the elevator that opened was right behind me. So I just walked in. So you did not do the professional courtesy ladies first?
Starting point is 00:26:54 I didn't even think about it. I just walked in the elevator. That's why she's pissed at you. No, she's mad because she wouldn't get on the, she didn't want to share an elevator with someone. So am I supposed to get off the elevator because she doesn't want to share an elevator now? No, the biggest issue I had with this is you didn't offer her the elevator first.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah? Yeah, that was, that was, there was zero gentleman skills in there. But she was like 10 feet away. I held the door. Doesn't matter. You always let the lady on first. But I wasn't going to let the elevator door close without her getting on. That's still gentleman.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You're trying to save face on this. No, I just think I'm not used to people not wanting to get on the elevator because they don't feel comfortable sharing it right now. So you get on, you wait for her and she's like, now I'm good. Yeah, she says, no, you can go ahead. And I'm just like, oh, am I supposed to get off the elevator now because she was there first? Would you like to describe this woman? A short little lady. Couldn't see her face.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Couldn't see her face? Is she a mask on? Oh. Yeah. He, uh, he, you just missed it because you were on a phone call. The, uh, woman, uh, was waiting for an elevator and he was, the elevator closest to him, uh, opened up. He gets on with, he doesn't have his mask.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It doesn't have a mask on. Uh, he waits for her to get on and she says, no, I'm good. Are they both waiting for or did she show up after it open? No, she was there first. She was there first. But the elevator closest to me. opened first. No, you still let him in first. That's a problem. Here's
Starting point is 00:28:18 a problem. These Chicago, these Midwestern doches. Wait, but here. Have some southern gentlemanly. I have a follow-up question then. If she gets on the elevator first and I try to get on the elevator and she tells me no. Do I have to wait? This is my elevator now. Do I have to wait
Starting point is 00:28:34 now? This is my elevator now. Pomp. No, you just goofed by not letting her on first. I don't think I did. Yeah, but I understand his point. If then what's going to happen? She's going to be like, hey, yeah, I'm going to take this. myself. Well, then she becomes the douche. Fair. So, but should I have got off the elevator because she wouldn't go up? No. Your damage was already done. You might as well finish it off. Does this someone work on this floor? No, I've never seen this person. They work on probably
Starting point is 00:28:57 different floor. Okay. Yeah. That's the issue is that you, you just made the mistake of not letting her go first. Hmm. I don't know. I like being on the elevator by myself in general. Is that wrong? Sometimes if it's not, if it's not going to be, like if it's Joe or somebody, I know, it's fine. But I don't like being on with strangers. Because then you're kind of have to am I going to be pleasant? Are they going to say something? Or we're just going to sit in silence. It's always weird. Well, here's the problem. I am corny AF dad joke teller once in a while. So Ross will be one of the people that I will be involved with, but many, many people.
Starting point is 00:29:29 We will get on an elevator, Ross and I will or anybody, and there will be like six or seven people on there. And I will say out loud, I'll say, Ross, how's your infectious cold? Yeah. And everybody kind of chuckles and goes, ha, ha, ha, ha. You can't do that anymore. If I try that now. Hey, Ross, how's your coronavirus? virus.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah. Hey, Ross, are you off COVID-19 by now or is it still a few more days? Hey, Ross, did your antibodies test come back? Or, hey, have you got your test results? No one would laugh at that. Actually, you should do it. Oh, I will. Next time we get, yeah, when you're in Vegas and when you're in Lake Charles.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I'm going to a very public place this weekend, and I will try it and see how it works. Are they wiping down the dice after every person's throw? I don't know. Are you going to have chips? I don't know. Is there going to be Purell at every table? I don't know. Is the cocktail waitress going to wipe her the drinks down before she hands them to you?
Starting point is 00:30:18 Maybe. I saw a casino was giving away. They were using hand sanitizer as the dealer chip for poker games. So that way it would be passed around the table throughout the game. I'll just tell you this, and I don't want to give away a lot of details. I will have a full report of all the things you just asked by Tuesday. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Tuesday. Oh, because we're off Monday. Yes, we are. Wow, a day off would be nice. Two days off, Ross. I know. It's crazy. Sunday and Monday
Starting point is 00:30:46 You're going to do sports ravey Saturday tomorrow? Yeah, why not? I don't know. The people demand it, man. Yeah. What people? All my... So what I want you to do here to resolve this story in your office-based dilemma is I need you to apologize that woman for not allowing her to get an elevator first.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I'm not going to apologize. Yeah. Hmm. I don't think I need to apologize. I think Joe was put in an awkward spot. I think the question is, do I need to get off the elevators to let her go on so I can be a gentleman? No. Well, how rude was she?
Starting point is 00:31:14 She wasn't. She was very nice. She goes, oh, no, I'll wait. You can take it. Yeah, because she thinks she got the Rona. I guess. You might. I don't. You don't know that. Fact. I guess I can't argue that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Okay. I don't think we need to put this to a vote. Are we all, we're all on the side that he should have given up the elevator except Joe. Can I at least hear what line one has to say? Sure. Are we going to screen it? I said that they wanted to vote. Okay, let's find out here. Let's see who is. Line one, who is this?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Steve. Steve, good afternoon. Hope your weekend is going well or future weekend. Our boy, Joe, did not let the lady on the elevator first. Any thoughts on this? I agree with Matt. He should let her get on first and then ask her if she's okay with him get it on, with him not wearing a mask. Oh, I don't think you have to go that far. I just think everything starts and ends with letting her on the elevator first. And then she becomes a D if if she shuts the door on you because you're not good enough to be on her elevator, Joe. See, putting it on her.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Okay, I apologize. Lady, I don't know who doesn't listen to our radio station, probably. I don't know. We got females to listen to the show. Well, she's probably working at the bank or something. Okay. It was one of those bank ladies. They can be smarting.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Anybody else having dilemmas they don't want me to answer? Because I think I'm one for one on this. Ross, you got anything? I haven't run into any dilemmas, I don't think. I'm going to talk about just in life. What can I? Because I feel like I'm, I guess. It's like I ask MT. I give Sage advice.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I went into a pickup place to pick up my food yesterday and I forgot to bring my mask and I kind of felt bad about that. Okay. Okay. It was big city wings actually. Did you? You get the two for a bonus? Yeah, yeah. There you go. The chicken nugget de facto, if you will. The leftovers might be for dinner tonight. Good. All right. So if anybody else is anything else they want me to address? And again, Joe, I'm just trying to help you here. I appreciate the help. I asked for your advice. You gave it. I can't be mad. You gave me advice. You gave me advice. Yeah, you may not accept it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But I might not change, but. Are you typically a open the door for a woman girl? Yeah. Guy. Yeah, I just walked in the elevator because it was closest to me and it opened. But now you're making me rethink my entire life, Matt. Thank you. You always let the lady in first.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Always, Joe. A southern gentleman. Okay. What if they're on their phone? A Spencer Dinwiddie from Georgia would definitely open the door for the ladies and also the elevator. I'm going to stop arguing because I feel like I was going to dig myself. Oh, yes, you are. I think I'm going to change my name on the road to Spencer Dinwiddie.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Well, it'll really throw people off. Why is Spencer Dinwiddie on the Rockets travel list? The groupies are going to be disappointed when they show up and you're there. That's true. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Ask MT, Sports Talk, K-T-Wiz, conversation, everything's for a game. And what do you think about the NFL?
Starting point is 00:34:12 potentially allowing teams to get a one-play 15-yard advancement instead of an onside kick to keep possession. We'll discuss all that and more. Plus, the Fantasy 5 will preview that next here on 790. Daniel House. Hey, it's Daniel House. Matt Thomas continues now. On Sports Talk, 790. All right, to put a PS on your story, Georgia, wrap things up.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Our good friend Joan, listen to the show. says if he didn't get have a mask on, I wouldn't get on the elevator either. And he compounded the issue by not letting her on first. If he did have a mask and didn't let her on first, that would bother me. It's an error, but didn't warn her reaction. Well, then she's got your back a little bit. Jones rational, thoughtful. See, if he had a mask, she said.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I like ATX hobo girl's response. What did she say? Blanker, get off the pot. Zero surprise on that. Just got a message from my buddy. Craig Ackerman says league sources saying NBA teams have been informed
Starting point is 00:35:28 they would be allowed to bring roughly 35 players, coaches, staff into a campus environment for the rest of the 2019-20 season. In normal circumstances, team travel parties routinely exceed 50. So it sounds like if we were to finish out that all of us would be broadcasting from here in Houston.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You're not going to make the cut, Matt? You're not in the top 35? Well, I don't think it's because they don't want to. It's just they're just saying we have to have a limit. That's unfortunate. Yeah, I will say this. When we start doing these games again, I'm going to assume I'm going to be doing some of them because I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:00 We haven't had a broadcast meeting about this. But if I'm doing it, it's going to be weird. Even if I'm working with Craig on the color side, doing games on television is really, really different. And the last time you said you did it was when they were in Taiwan or whatever? Well, they were in, I think they were in China. Okay. And I did two games on the television.
Starting point is 00:36:20 it was the first two games I ever did for the Rockets, in fact. Was that one of the ones where you did it here and Lance was on color with you? Lance did color with me. We were both at the Toyota Center. And they had a closed circuit feet. And I think we tipped it off at 6.30 in the morning. That was one of the weirdest things doing play-by-play of a brand new job. I've done hundreds of games.
Starting point is 00:36:45 That's not that big of a deal. But to do it on a television. And doing it at 6.30 in the morning as compared to 6.30 at night. Very, very odd. But I'm still, I mean, it's fine. You know, obviously the big of the television screen and better because you want to build, identify, and make sure you don't make any mistakes. The biggest thing you'll miss is if there's any strange calls or clarifications or, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:09 maybe you hear a player or coach say something, you won't be able to get that because, you know, television, you know, you're not there at the facility. So it is what it is. This can be games back. A little bit difficult. But you can deal with your trained professional, Matthew. I feel like if the Rockets are going to let me go back to the style that I'm accustomed to when calling games, shouldn't they put me up with like the nicest hotel in downtown?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Some of them in the hotel lifestyle, but just doing it in Houston instead? You'll manage, no. You'll be able to survive without. Or maybe they'll put you in the post-doch hotel. That wouldn't be bad. Well, I think we're probably did the games at TOTA center, you know, on the close-circuit. All right, we have the Fantasy 5 coming up today at 2.30. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And I hope you did a little research on it. It doesn't take long. Trust me. We're efforting. Okay. We're going to do a list of Fantasy 5 this week. Ross and I will compete of building up our Rockets Dream Team, base of our favorite rockets that have never made any All-Star Games.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You would be, I wouldn't say astonished, but maybe more than mildly surprised at the number of great players the rockets have had that have never made an All-Star game. And then you would be surprised about guys that you would thought were very pedestrian rocket players that maybe one year had a really good season.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like, I'll give you one as this as a guy, but I was working on this last night. I was thinking I could sneak in a notice Thorpe. He made one. He made one All-Star game in his decade-plus NBA correct. Ninety-four, I think, right? Yeah. So that's just one of those situations
Starting point is 00:38:49 that you thought of, well, where can I get one in that I could go, oh, that was a great selection. And then come to realize he made one all-star game. I think he did it as a Sacramento King, right? It might have been King or I don't know if it was here, but he definitely made one All-Star game. So we'll put together the list. And then we're going to, since Joe George is barely over 21, we're going to let Adam Clinton and Adam Wexer come in and be two of our opening judges here. Wonderful.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Because they're big rocket hawks. So we'll have that. Can't wait. Building my list. Yeah, I can tell. So I totally forgot about it. Sometimes Ross's best show prepers actually, as the show is moving along for some reason. I was trying to see if Eric Gordon had made an All-Star game.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Hashtag always prepared. Six man of the year. No, no. I didn't realize. I thought he might have made one All-Star game. Eric Gordon, I guess none. There you go. So he's on the list.
Starting point is 00:39:47 He's eligible. He's eligible. But who will pick him? And by way, you get the first pick. I think it, or do I? Ooh, you might throw it to me? I don't know. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:39:56 This is going to be tough for sure. Again, I don't think we can go wrong because any of the 10 players that we select, people are going to generally speaking love them. Yeah, I think so. I think we're both have strong lists. So it's just going to be, one of those ones. You're just like, oh, that's my guy. I loved him.
Starting point is 00:40:10 That's probably what's going to happen. And there might even be a generate, not generational divide, just between the picks. Yeah, I don't think I, I have maybe one player on my list, maybe two. that were 70s, but I don't even know if I didn't pick him. I don't know. We'll see. 713-212-5-790 if you'd like to get in. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. If you want to reach out through Twitter, it's at SportsMT,
Starting point is 00:40:33 at Sports RV, and not Joe George, George, already. Remember I mentioned this a few days ago that Joe Ingalls of the Utah Jazz is like, I'm not going to practice. I'm not doing this. Yes. Well, he's done a 180 on that. Well, probably. Because he said he doesn't want to let his teammates down.
Starting point is 00:40:47 That's smart, and he doesn't want to let his paycheck down. Yeah. just be careful. Like, for instance, if Blake Snell pitches, because here's the thing, I really firmly believe, I don't know if I should firmly believe this,
Starting point is 00:41:03 what do you think, they're going to play this year, right? There's too much money to lose. I would think so, yeah. Do you think the owners back down and say, all right,
Starting point is 00:41:09 we'll just do the pro-rated thing? Or do you think that the baseball union will come and say, all right, instead of doing a 50-50 split, we'll take a 51-49. Yeah, it'll be interesting. They'll probably be something like that.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So whatever it is, they're not going to make what he thinks he's going, what he thinks he should make. Is Blake Snell going to fall in his sword and say, I told you, I'm scared to play because I'm not getting my full money. Or does Blake Snell pitch a bunch of games in 2020? You're probably going to pitch. That's the reason why athletes probably shouldn't be as outspoken as they are, because at the end of the day, that paycheck speaks way louder than, anything these athletes say. It's okay for them to be outspoken if they're smart. Blake's now seems like an idiot.
Starting point is 00:41:56 So you don't need outspoken idiots. You lose me when you go bra and bro a bunch of times. Whoa, bro. What's wrong with saying bro, bro? Because it doesn't sound very smart. All right, bro. Like, do you think you sound smart right now? Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Oh, God. Joe, do you say that? I think I've lost him for like 10 minutes here. Do we feed him something different than normal? I don't really say bro. Good. I've given you two sages piece of advice. Let the woman in the elevator
Starting point is 00:42:24 first and try to say bro and bra as little as often as little times as possible. But yeah, I mean, yeah, Blake Snell is going to have egg on his face, I would imagine. Just like Joe Ingalls is like, you know, when I said what I said, I was very nervous about the NBA having a clean practice facility.
Starting point is 00:42:42 The NBA is always going to have a clean practice facility, right? The NBA was, whether it's Vegas, Orlando, Houston, It will be the cleanest facility. The rockets have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and hundreds and hundreds of man hours, making sure that anybody is practicing over TOTA center is practicing in the safest possible conditions. These individual teams and these leagues do not want an outbreak. They don't want to have to start wherever everything back up and get us all excited only for to be destroyed because one team didn't follow the proper rules.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So players, if you're going back, know this because everybody's done their part in making sure it's a safe facility of being. Do you see LeBron was working out with a bunch of guys? No, I didn't. Yeah. I say he's been posting some workout videos. Yes, with multiple players. Sweeting and breathing. And testing them.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And testing them. But that's still against the rules. Braun's got a bunch of tests. How has this happened? Great question. LeBron can't do this. And if you're going to do this, which I don't necessarily have a problem. problem with, you don't put pictures out there. You are doing exactly what the NBA doesn't want you to do.
Starting point is 00:43:57 The NBA is like, we will control the atmosphere, we will control the environment, we will control who goes in, what goes out, and let us handle it. Instead, LeBron, see, that's the thing about LeBron, and that's the thing about athletes, they just can't turn off IG for a while. They can't turn off Twitter. And look, I love Twitter and Instagram just like anybody else. But there are some things I'm just not going to, I'm going to advertise. It's probably smarter than me be on IG every now and then. What's that? Taking off for the DMs.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Well, I mean, let me tell you. Every day, LeBron wakes up to 500 DMs. Don't you think? Probably. So he doesn't even posting up videos of workouts with other players when the NBA is like, hey, let us handle this. Because the NBA, it feels like to me has been the uber safest of them all. The uber hesitant, and even though all
Starting point is 00:44:54 signs are pointing for them back to play a season, there still isn't a guarantee they're going to do this, nor is baseball. Nobody's guaranteeing anything. Always hear, all signs are pointing towards. This sounds good. Guys are coming back. I don't see a schedule. I don't see a league calendar.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I think there's still a lot of things up in the air. And that's why if I was doing what LeBron was doing, just don't advertise it. Just keep it to yourself. Second hour, the Matt Thomas show starts in a matter of moments here on Sports Talk 790. 713212-5-79 if you want to jump in. It isn't anything goes Friday. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
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Starting point is 00:47:13 get in last night's game. I haven't like we've said last night's game in two-plus months, right? Correct. March 11th. I'm tired of guessing about when college football teams are coming back. I'm tired of guessing about the calendar. I'm ready for some definitive news. And that's why anytime I read anything about staffing or who gets to do this, who gets to go where,
Starting point is 00:47:33 or when players get to go back to campuses, it gives me signs of encouragement. So I'll just say, as long as those keep coming out there, we'll keep reporting them. Yeah, I'm with you. The news is we have to talk about the sports news because that's all that's what's going on right now. It is what it is. Yeah. But it does feel like we're trending in the right direction. It does feel like we're going to have something as you, your favorite phrase, Matthew,
Starting point is 00:47:55 sooner rather than later. I hate that phrase. So, I mean, by the way, it hasn't been sooner rather than later. It's been later rather than sooner, right? I wouldn't think.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Are we that far off of the, I mean, maybe far off the original, original schedule. Right. But we're hoping for stuff by June. Maybe so it's going to get pushed back to July. It would look like.
Starting point is 00:48:12 So Joe and I, before the show, we're trying to figure out. July 15th starts the season. For the NBA. When are we crowning a champion? Uh, October 15th?
Starting point is 00:48:28 That long? Maybe October 1st? So how funky? You need probably for teams to get what? Everybody to, we're doing everybody to 70 games? Or maybe everybody plays five, but then you'd have an uneven number of teams with an uneven number of games. But I'll be about winning percentage. So here's how crazy it's going to be if you're an NBA fan.
Starting point is 00:48:53 We're going to, we're going to cry out of champion October the first. what is what is free agency start 10 days later 15 days later you have to accelerate these types of calendars and by the way then we have to have a draft right and what's the salary cap and we do have to have a draft and then training camp starts 10 days after that no no no I think training camp starts December 1st so the champion of the NBA whomever it may be hopefully it's the Houston Rockets will have in theory about eight weeks off you know what they can we've talked about this as well because you know how they
Starting point is 00:49:25 would do during the finals in the last two they would have like some teams off for three days or they would try to set everything so that the game seven of the finals was on a sunday right you're going to have to scrap some of that and maybe just have them play every other day no matter what yeah maybe you could do it a little quicker i don't think we'll have any back-to-back playoff games no but i think every crazy every other day you don't have to travel anywhere yeah what if it were you know rockets nuggets back-to-back in denver the last time i can remember and i'm sure it's happened since See, I don't want to mix my stories up. But I think the Rockets had a back-to-back,
Starting point is 00:50:09 had it been early to mid-90s where I think Mother's Day was involved. A Saturday-Sunday playoff series. Playoff back-to-back? That's interesting. Payoff black-to-back. And I think the second game of it was on a Sunday of Mother's Day. If anybody's got really, really good memories of that, help me out with that. that's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:50:31 But I don't remember anything in the last 15 or 20 years. Because, now, granted, if you had lockouts or you had schedule or you had like a delay because of a building malfunction or something, then you could probably, then maybe it was something quirky. But what I remember about the NBA in the last 10 years is the number of massive, ridiculous delays for television as compared to playing on every other day basis. Yeah, so you're just probably not going to have that. So maybe they could get the playoffs done a little bit quicker. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily think there's, look, if you win the championship on October the 1st, you're probably not opening up training camp December the 1st. You're probably taking another extra week off.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I guess my guess is this year's exhibition schedule would be probably down to three or four games as compared to five or six. And then you maybe push the NBA schedule to say December 20th or 21st, you know, leading up with that big Christmas day day. But here's the thing, Ross. Would you imagine being a schedule maker in the NBA office right now? Would you just have the teams play whatever the next five games are on their schedule and everybody plays five? Well, not only that, but the NBA, I heard this on a podcast last year sometime. The NBA starts working on their schedule, which is usually released in September. They at least put a footprint down in January of that year.
Starting point is 00:51:54 So whoever is in the scheduling offices of the NBA is not going to have that this year because there has been no firm decision as to whether the league, when the next year's team's going to, league's going to start. And you have a schedule you still have to build right now. Do you pick up where you left off, like you said?
Starting point is 00:52:13 I don't know, because maybe some teams have back-to-backs in there so they would play more than the other team or something, you know. Because the Rockets have a, I remember this, the Rockets still have a five-game Eastern conference. road trip on their schedule. I guess it was not five. It was not, it was four Eastern teams and one Western conference teams. Do you give up the conference games?
Starting point is 00:52:35 Do you try to play? Because the Rocket still had two trips to Dallas and one trip to San Antonio left. Do you try to play in your division, in your conference? I don't know. Who do you flip a coin on that? What would be, if the three of us and we sat down with Commissioner Silver and said, all right, we're going to give everybody five games to finish out the year. What five do you
Starting point is 00:52:57 choose? I would just go easy and it's either the next five that were scheduled or the last five. So like the Rockets would either play, the Lakers, Blazers, Blazers, Cavs, Kings, Bulls. That's right. Do you remember that trip that the Rockets didn't take
Starting point is 00:53:13 was to go to Los Angeles? They were in mid-flight when they turned them around. Lakers in Portland were two games. And here's the thing, guys. This is all just conjecture, but are some teams going to say, wait a minute, these five games are not going to help our calls to solidify our playoff spot
Starting point is 00:53:28 or help our improve our status. Will the league say, well, certain teams got a better batch of five or a worse batch of five than the others? Well, if you look at the Rockets back half, let's say they just play the last five games in the season. Who are they? Spurs, Wizards, Spurs,
Starting point is 00:53:45 Sons, Grizzlies. Four home games one road game, correct? Yes. Then it makes any difference right now because it will be obviously in a neutral site. But you could improve your playoff seating dramatically if those are the five games you play. Yeah. And conversely, Memphis may be in a tough spot because they're just trying to hold on to that eight spot in the West. God, I wish I had like a, I wish I could just, I love to eavesdrop.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I'm just going to tell you. I just, I love inner workings of businesses. Mm-hmm. I mean, I just come in do the show with you guys and we come in, we shut the door, we do the studio show, we leave. We're not involved in the intricate details of what. happens with the radio station. We're not involved in the intimate tales of, wouldn't it be fun just to kind of hear what they're going through? What they're talking about? Because look, it's easy to go to that health science lab at the NBA office because they're saying, okay, we got to wipe this down.
Starting point is 00:54:38 You're going to make sure that there's no water bottles. You've got to make sure that guys do. I mean, you know, like that 67 page thing that baseball did. I mean, that was, that's, that's the non-fun part. The fun part is, who do you play? What do you have left? Who plays where? What time do you play. For instance, we were talking about that report, the guy from Yahoo, there are not going to be a lot of guys are going to want to play basketball games at noon during the day because, let's face it, NBA players are night owls. Most athletes are night owls. They're going to have to get used to it. They're going to have to deal with it, yes. But do you mean to tell me that a game had played at noon won't be near, it won't be as crisp as a game was say played seven o'clock at night? Probably not. So you're saying Betty Anders. I'm saying you could get, I'm just saying that everything is. up and could be bat-blank crazy. In terms of teams beating teams they're not supposed to beat. And that's why did you notice the NBA, the guy reported that the NBA playoff schedule
Starting point is 00:55:36 would be more of a normalcy because I think they want to put them on prime time in the networks. But they also don't want to put guys in spots they're not normally comfortable in. And that's where you go back into that argument of one of the playoffs tainted. If you're playing playoff games at noon on a Tuesday, I think that leans more. to the tainted side versus just, hey, they're going to play all their games at night. But these first five games, you just got to get them in. Like, you've got to play them. You got to do whatever you can.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And frankly, it's going to be like every day's the first day of March Madness. Like, we're just going to have basketball on all day. Okay. I'm in. Sign me up. And baseball, maybe at the same time. Lunchtime with the Rockets, lunchtime with the Astros. Cool.
Starting point is 00:56:15 We're going to have a lot of days off. Well, I mean, I'll be working, but, you know. Well, you'll be working. What are you going to be doing? No, I'll be here. You'll be here. You'll be opening up elevator. for every woman that comes in.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Fact. Basically, what you're going to do is... I might take the stairs now. You're going to have to probably find her again and say, hey, what happened with us? No, if I see her, I'll probably just walk the other way and find the stairs. No, then she's going to say she won. Hide in shame. No, you're a grown-ass man.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Don't hide from any woman wearing a mask in an elevator. You're Joe freaking George. You're the home of a very successful Space City Saturday show. Fact. See? You're going to promote these things. 113 on the Matt Thomas show. 713-21-2-1-2-5-790
Starting point is 00:56:56 7-1-3-2-5-79 if you want to get in. Jerry Sloan passed away today at the age of 78. I mentioned this before when we'll come back. Are there people in sports that it's impossible for you to root for, but you had tremendous respectful. We'll run through that list of some people that we can think of next. 113 on Sports Talk 790. This is awesome rivers.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It's good. It's back. Hey, it's the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk. Seven days. All right. So Jerry Sloan no longer with us. As I said before, on the last hour of the show, that respect the hell out of them. Guys, are you willing to admit two or three guys you hated watching play?
Starting point is 00:57:47 But the respect level, like, for instance, I don't hate watching Tom Brady. He's a little irritating. But it's not one of those things that it just makes me ill thinking about Tom Brady throwing a pass. My list is pretty easy. Aaron Rogers, Brett Fav. God, you are easy. I'm trying to think who else.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Like, for instance, Mark Burley? The team as a kid I hated more than anybody else. We're the Boston Celtics. Larry Bird made me ill. Kevin McAil on his big shoulders, Robert Paris, Dennis Johnson,
Starting point is 00:58:29 Danny Ainsh, Jerry C. Sting, Emil Carr. I still hate all those guys. But I still, I mean, Larry Bird, just a phenomenal basketball player. Madder respect for those guys. And especially as you get older, you watch, because I'm watching so much NBA TV that I'm just like, God, 60-point games, knocking down big shots, did all the things.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So that's one guy. On the football side, I'm trying to think of somebody I just... Oh, Adrian Peterson. I hated. But I respect... I mean, he was amazing. Oh, you running back. I was mad as a freshman.
Starting point is 00:59:05 He got invited to the Heisman. It was a Heisman finalist. Yeah. But Cedric Minson wasn't. Ooh, that's hatred right there. Screwed. Sedby got screwed. See, I don't think I have anybody in, like, who is, who,
Starting point is 00:59:21 see, when you have a diehard, when you're a diehard fan of a team, you're supposed to hate them, hate it. And I mean, I don't have a team anymore. Uh, I hated Tony Parker, but respected him. see I hated Mono Ginoble and I didn't respect him Yeah he's flopping all over the place Big old flopper
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah Screw Manu Ginoble Couldn't hate David Robinson It's impossible to hate David Robinson Can't hate Tim Duncan I did hate Tim Duncan But I just I mean I knew he was great
Starting point is 00:59:43 I hated him because he was great I'll put Kobe in that category too It's like when he would just make Play the Rockets He would just make all these impossible shots And it was so annoying Yeah LeBron's definitely on that for me Do you really hate LeBron
Starting point is 00:59:56 I did when it was like heat Bulls Like Prime Derek before the injuries happened? See, it's funny to LeBron for me. I've never, I've thought LeBron, like everybody, we all have an opinion about how he handles his life. I mean, if there's anybody that's been talked about more as an athlete of what he does on and off the court,
Starting point is 01:00:11 it's LeBron James. The only thing I've ever hated about LeBron was the decision. I thought that was so incredibly weak. But I've never hated anything that he said in general. I never hated his on-court play. In fact, when I was in Minnesota, you know, I'd go to very few Wolves games, but I made sure when the one time of your Cleveland came in,
Starting point is 01:00:29 I wanted to make sure and see him in person because he was so awesome. But the hate just wasn't there. I hated Carl Malone, but I always respect him. I just hate him because, you know, like you said, he was on the bitter enemy of your favorite team. Yeah, but I mean, he was always, speaking of flopper.
Starting point is 01:00:46 He was a flopper too. I can't respect, yeah, I can't respect floppers. Forget that. Exactly. So I don't respect you, Caram alone. Especially that grown-ass, big-ass nasty beard you had on yesterday in that video we played. He's got the, uh, he got the Chris Kringle look going. You know, what is it with a gentleman going just completely forgetting about shaving once they retire from rail?
Starting point is 01:01:06 Like, Dave Lutterman's beard, you see that bad guy? Yeah, that thing's pretty nasty. He's freaking Chris Kringle. Yeah, that thing is long. And on Kemp, right? It's got some level of trim, it looks like. I mean, I know people that don't get their haircut, that don't shave. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:22 That, I mean, they've just given up on life. Yeah, that sounds terrible. Yeah. Certainly not referencing me because I trim my beard and hair regularly. Yeah, but when you let that thing out, you are Troy Palomalo. Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. So are you ever going to cut your hair?
Starting point is 01:01:38 Why would I? Because normal people cut their hair. Are you ever going to grow your hair? No, because I... No one of people grow their hair. But it's not impossible for me to grow hair. Yes, it is. I cannot grow hair on the top of my head anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:49 But you can grow it on the sides. I look stupid. Okay. Well, I want to have long hairs. You can shave your head. So you're saying, well, you're 60... The chance of you getting... five haircuts in the rest of your life is you would take the under.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Man, I don't plan three days in advance. You think I'm planning 30 years in advance? Like, Joe, when do you think he'll get the next full-on haircut? When it gets wiped up. Whatever wife I have is probably going to love my hair. The ladies like it, Matt. Yeah, I know. The ladies do like sports Harvey's hair for some reason.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Do you let it flow before you meet them or? No, you take it down, you take it down and then you wave your hair. Oh, he's going to have. front of me. Oh, gross. Yeah, I know. Sorry, Matt's getting a little hot in here, isn't it? Why did you ask him to do that, Joe? Oh, man. Now that main just growing everywhere.
Starting point is 01:02:48 You don't have like hairs just like left over like in like random. In my apartment? Yeah. My apartment is a giant hair ball. Is it really? Yeah. Do you ever have hair or the hair dropping your food? Of mine?
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah. It happens. It's my hair. Who cares? That's true. You ever double-dip your own chip? I know you do. I used to call you out on it.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yeah, you shamed me. Yeah, we used to go out for lunch and then Matt would just be double-dipping away, Joe. In the same case of the thing we're sharing, yes. I didn't do it intentionally to say no, no, no, no. I just did it. And I was like, I didn't think twice about it. Yeah. Yeah, you can only double-dip if it's only yours.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Well, we've got to do some sort of bet, Joe, that Ross has to do some cutting of hair of something. No, why? I don't know because it just feels like it would be It would be a momentous okay Like when we go to Vegas for the 30,000
Starting point is 01:03:41 That's gonna be like 20-24 Why don't you get a haircut there? Like a little trim The only thing I would ever do it for would be Locks of Love and I think that has to be Your hair has to be at least nine inches What were you at now? I don't know
Starting point is 01:03:52 Probably close Okay Let's raise some money out that bad boy right? We could Okay Work to be done Yeah what if we raise like $20, like $10,000 in charity From 790 listeners
Starting point is 01:04:05 Nobody cares that money Look at the head hair is not worth 10 grand. You never know. Can I get a cut? Yeah, he wants, he wants to go fund me commission. Can it be like a 50-50? Like, you know, like 50-50.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You want a revenue share your hair? Yes. Yeah, let's negotiate. Let me talk to my union. I'm willing to do some money for charity, but I do need a little something for my own bank of account. Yeah, a little parents fee. Because it did take it me, you have to, you have to obviously manage it.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Yeah. To manicure it. You have to detangle. And we've spent four minutes talking about your hair. You did. It's my fault. First of all, it's anything goes Friday. It's like, oh, we need sports.
Starting point is 01:04:43 We just do. I mean, I don't want to, I just, I don't want to get into long Texans talk because that's... You don't want to? No. What do you think about the backup guard position right now, Matt? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, there's some question marks. Okay. I like that.
Starting point is 01:05:01 You see that Carlos High may be signing a deal with the, uh, Seattle Seahawks. Oh, really? That's good for him. Well, he's gone now. How is he not the NFL? he was very serviceable for this team last year. He's good. I mean, he's not great, and he's not that much of a pass-catching threat.
Starting point is 01:05:16 This is what Bill O'Brien wanted. So that's why David Johnson is here. Now we got two of them. Even though Tim Ken... How long is Tim Kelly going to be calling plays? We need to set an over-under before the season. Well, let's do this. Let's...
Starting point is 01:05:28 We need to wait until we get to, like, early September. Because I think doing it now would be just to do it. But I think... for his own, for Bill O'Brien's own resume, you can't be a, you can't give it and take it away that fast for the second time as I know with an offensive coordinator, right? You're telling me that he's going to be the play caller. Well, first of all, he was, Tim Kelly was the OC last year. Yes. He just didn't call the place, which is like saying you're the pilot, but you can't hold on to the wheel.
Starting point is 01:05:59 You know? Yes. Not how the wheel, but to the steer, what they call it. I don't know what they call it. What do they call it thing? It's not a steering wheel The plane thingy Yeah, the plane thingy
Starting point is 01:06:09 That's the official term The plane thing, yeah I mean Hey, you're the offensive It's like you're the manager of the restaurant But you can't tell me what to do The Yoke Apparently it's called the Yoke
Starting point is 01:06:21 Oh, the Yoke Okay We have aeronautic people listen to show No, I googled it Oh, did you? Okay, that's a badger at Google So he's going to call plays Ross, I hope for
Starting point is 01:06:31 The Texans mental health He gets to call the plays all year long because if he pulls the rain from there, then it means he's going to be the head coach, the general manager, the play caller. He's been all of that before. Last year he was pretty much.
Starting point is 01:06:47 That's true. He did all three of those last year. And, I mean, you would hope that he is learned, because the Gatsy situation, he called players for three weeks. They got zero points against the Patriots, and he said, all right, I'm calling plays.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I think it was his fault? Do you think it was Gatsy's fault? I don't know. I think it was overmatched from the get-go. But this is also the thing What did we talk about as the toughest part of the Texan schedule? The first four games. The first four games.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Oh, that's right. So if they're going against the Chiefs, Chiefs defense is, I mean, obviously the offense is what they're known by, but the defense is solid. Then you're talking about the Steelers, good offense. You're talking about the Ravens. I mean, good defense, good defense. And then the Vikings, one of the best defenses in the league. So Tim Kelly's got to perform against those teams. October 12th is Tim Kelly calling plays by then.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Well, let's do by week because if the season gets pushed back or something. Okay, so by week five. Week five? Team gets off to one and three star. You don't think that Bill O'Brien's having a very quick trigger finger. Tim Kelly is not calling plays if they start out one and three. I truly don't believe that. Then now, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:07:54 You know how PR crisis firms always think of things. How do you sell it to the audience, the media, if you pull Tim Kelly's play calling responsibilities? You don't tell anybody? You don't even bring it up, maybe. You got a fire. him. Man. No, you're not firing
Starting point is 01:08:09 Tim Kelly. Tim Kelly's in a very safe spot. I think he'll get at least a year. Because it's been like a mystery
Starting point is 01:08:14 between like Tom Herman, do you have to, in the NFL? People don't have to know that who's calling plays. No. Nobody has asked. Tom Herman and it was
Starting point is 01:08:20 Tim Becker, whoever he had. They were like, who calls the plays? He's like, well, you know, he calls him sometimes. And it was really Tom Herman calling the plays, but he didn't want to publicly
Starting point is 01:08:28 saying he was doing it. Yeah, in all honestly. So that's what I'm saying, he would do something like, if Tim gets the hook, don't tell anybody. Just have him staring at a big menu with his mouth covered
Starting point is 01:08:36 the whole time like normal? Yeah, because Tim, you're making whatever he's making. It's a great salary. You want to keep this salary. You shut your mouth and I will call the plays. He would do that. I would absolutely believe.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Because again, if Tim Kelly wants to be an offensive coordinator somewhere else down the road, he doesn't want to put on his resume. I had the play calling taken from me four weeks into the season. So yeah, don't say we'll never know who really calls the plays all throughout the year,
Starting point is 01:09:02 unless the plays are so awesome. And Bill O'Brien says, man, Tim called a great game. 128. Matt Thomas show at 713, 212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Well, if the Texans offense starts off a little sluggish, that's going to be bad. And if you're feeling sluggish, that's bad, too. And I want to talk to you about that.
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Starting point is 01:11:04 I've already said I'm not a huge golf watcher. but I'm going to watch some of this Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson stuff. Tom Brady, Peyton, man. Are you guys into this weekend? When is it happening? This weekend? What time? It's on Sunday, I think.
Starting point is 01:11:18 TBS and TNT. Excuse me, are going to be involved in it, too. Charles Barkley will be on the call. That may make it worth it just watching that. Excuse me, the hiccups. Was he going to give golf analysis with his crappy swing? No, he knows all four of those guys really well. So what?
Starting point is 01:11:35 Oh, Charles Barkley to a golf broadcast? I'm in. Okay. So a new trend in our business in the last 10 years is sitting on odds for everything. So I'm not going to run through the pluses and minuses because they're stupid Vegas bets. And there are any good props? There are, but I'm not going to get into the minus. It just seems silly. But let's just go over some things that they think if you could bet on such a thing would be worth betting on. Like who's going to win Tiger Payton or Phil Tom? Now, the last time, paint, Tiger and Phil played, I was one of the only people that thought that Phil was going to win, and Phil did win. Remember that one guy was just antagonizing me over and over again? You know what you're talking about. There's no way that Tiger doesn't beat Phil. And Phil won. So Tiger and Peyton versus Phil and Tom. Without knowing much about either the NFL players golf games, who would you think would you think would be the winner in that? It's still a favor of Tiger, I think. Probably so. I feel like Payton's had a lot more time to work in his golf game. Tom's still trying to throw passes in the NFL. That's true. Let me go over a few more that I would think would be of interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:42 The over under on side bets. Now, all four of the guys are going to be miced up. And they can make side bets? Yeah. It's a charity thing. Everything goes to charity. Ten and a half side bets over this event. Ten and a half.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Yeah, I think they're going to get knocked down in about four holes. I mean, they're all, look, Phil's a huge gambler. Yeah. I think Tiger has been known to gamble, right? I don't know if Tom's much of a gambler. So it would be more to me to Phil. Tom probably gambles for sure. Phil definitely gambles.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Yeah. Well, Tiger, yeah, Tiger does too. Yeah. So I'll say over 10 and a half on that. Okay. Okay. We couldn't get John Daly in here, Gamble with everybody too? John Daly would actually be really good in the broadcast booth.
Starting point is 01:13:28 That's true. As long as he could pop a top. Yeah. Let's see. here. Will any player record an eagle? Will any player record a hole in one? What's the hole in one? Like it's got to be long odds, right? No minus 8,000. Yes, plus 3,000. Okay. See, again, these are just, sometimes are just so crazy. Here's one. How many curse words will be bleeped? Ooh. The over under is three and a half. Over. Over, comfortable.
Starting point is 01:13:57 You can get three and a half out of one bad shot for me. That's right. How many times will Tiger Woods twirl his club, the over under is two and a half. Oh, yeah. Twirls after he hits a really sweet shot. This is a showmanship event, too, as much as it's about Cherty. So I'd put the over on that. A half? I don't know. I think that's a good line. Here's a good one. How many times will the word terrible be said by Charles Barkley?
Starting point is 01:14:21 Terrible. Two and a half is the over under. Ooh, that's a good one. I'm guessing you got to lay juice on both sides or something. Minus 150 on an over, plus 130 on an under. No, that's not bad. I'm going to go with Under, I think. This is an easy one. Will video of Charles Barkley's swing ever be shown during this event?
Starting point is 01:14:40 Oh, that's got to be a minus a million, right? Minus 1,000, yes, plus $750 now. Well, here's a very interesting one, especially coming off of The Last Dance and that we know that Charles and Michael Jordan are not speaking right now. Will Charles Barkley invite Michael Jordan to play golf? During the broadcast?
Starting point is 01:14:59 That would seem very, very organic. No, I don't think he'll do it. No. do you think that I guess the reason why he may not do it is because you think that's going to spark another not a controversy but a conversation about why Charles and Mike don't speak
Starting point is 01:15:14 I just don't think it would come up okay will Auburn be said by Charles Barkley ooh that's a good one yes is a minus 500 no is a plus 425 say Auburn at some point I'll say no just because I'm getting the juice
Starting point is 01:15:33 then under the category of What will they say props? Will Jordan be said by any player? Like wish Michael Jordan was here? Or Jordan would have made that? I would say if Barclay were playing, yeah. But no, I'm going to say no. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Will Last Dance be said by any player? I would say no on that. I would say no as well. Okay. Will Omaha be said by any player? Ooh, as a joke, Tom Brady might drop an Omaha on Peyton. I could see that. Well, instead of four?
Starting point is 01:16:04 is screaming Omaha? I could see Peyton saying it too, like making fun of himself where he hits a little chip shot, and it's not going the way he wants. He starts yelling Omaha and trying to get to move. Or how about this? When he goes to line up for the putt, doesn't like what he sees,
Starting point is 01:16:18 he takes a couple of subs back and says, Omaha are going to reread the put. Yeah, this seems like a guarantee. Here's the better one. Will deflate be said by any player? Oh, I say yes. Yes. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yes, is a minus one-thirty. Somebody is going to needle. Tiger. You know what? I put Tiger is the favorite to say that one. These are terrible props. Here's the next one. This goes after Phil now. Will insider trading be set by a platter?
Starting point is 01:16:43 That is so bad. That is so bad. I don't think they will. They should, but they won't. How rude is that? Does that be a good one? Why is it rude? It's factual.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yeah, I mean. Okay. So I just gave you Omaha. That's Peyton. Deflate. That's Tom. Insider training. It's Phil.
Starting point is 01:17:01 There isn't a prop bet of Perkins. Oh. There is a name. Probably is going to say that. What is someone dropped of Parkins? Or painkillers? Tiger hit that all the way. Like what phrases would piss off Tiger so bad he'd walk out the course?
Starting point is 01:17:18 Vikenin? Like, hey guys, I'm going to Viking and I'm not feeling well. Ooh, that would be. That's what you do if you're going to really create a drama that you put in the taboo phrases. If insider training is a taboo topic on a golf course. Perkins What's it like having a golf club wrapped around your car How's it Elen or Ellen Norton
Starting point is 01:17:42 How's the ex-wife? Yeah Nobody's going to drop a house of England No, that's going to happen All right, a few more things Well, Tiger Woods wear a red shirt This is a Sunday. He always wears a red on Sunday, right?
Starting point is 01:17:56 I'll say yes. Well, teammates wear matching shirts. I would say no. Probably not, yeah. It seemed a little kitchy, unless it's sponsored or something. Here's the most interesting of them all. Will Tom Brady have a Buccaneer logo on his clothing? I'll say no.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah, I don't think so. And then last, but certainly not least, the Donald Trump bets. Oh, okay. Will Donald Trump be interviewed during the broadcast? Is he involved in this somehow? I don't think it's, and it is one of his courses. Is that his clubs or something? But he could be on...
Starting point is 01:18:36 I guess. He knows all those guys, right? He's played golf, probably all of them. I would imagine. Will Donald Trump tweet about the match? That's an easy yes. Yeah, I would say yes. And then there are the three, here are the forwards.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Each one of them, will Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson, each have their own bets play golf with Donald Trump before the year 2022? That's a yes. I'm going to tell you something, no matter how you feel about somebody politically. And we have a lot of, I have a lot of my friends who have, are on both sides of the aisle on this. If the president calls you to play golf, you're going to play golf, right? You may despise it. It may give you four hours to just railroad him about a variety of things that he hasn't done as a president.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Or you may, it may give you four hours to talk about what a great job he's done as a president. That's why to me, remember back in the. the day when teams are wanting championships how some guys wouldn't go to meet the president. I don't see how you turn that down. Even again, if you're not a fan of the person, I would seem like you're going to get a chance to at least say hello and maybe you get five seconds to say, Mr. President, I respect the office, but I don't respect this or this, this. I think he'd listen to it.
Starting point is 01:19:56 No, Donald Trump doesn't care what it or nor should he or Barack Obama shouldn't care what some hockey player has to. But you get to get that off your chest. what is it going to accomplish? Nothing, but you get to say it. I went to go see the president. I told him he did a lousy job at this, or I think he's doing a great job of this.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Why would Draymond Green or somebody go to Donald Trump be like, hey, man, you got to stop doing this? Why would Donald Trump care? Because you know why? Because Donald Trump can, then Draymond Green can say, well, I had a chance talking to the president. He knows how I feel. I guess.
Starting point is 01:20:26 This doesn't seem to accomplish anything to me. Well, I don't think you're looking to accomplish anything. I think you're just saying, hey, I've got a chance to do this. But yeah, president wants. to play golf. Let me tell you something. If Barack Obama wants play golf tomorrow, I'm leaving Ross. If President Trump wants to play golf, I'm going to play golf. I'm not turning down
Starting point is 01:20:41 the Oval Office. I'm not turning down golf. It's the president of the free world. I heard you're going to have to keep your eye on Donnie. Why him? Then he a foot wedge guy? Oh. Aren't we all, though?
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yeah. Well, so you're saying because you think that Now, it's funny because CNBC and CNN says he cheats on golf. Fox News says he plays it by the rules all the way through. True. I guess you'd have to find out for yourself. Who do you believe? 144.
Starting point is 01:21:14 We're 15 minutes away from talking with our friend Brian T. Smith and normal Friday contributor to the radio show. If you would like to join us, you are welcome to do so. It's 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-2-5-790. It's an anything goes Friday here on Sports Talk 790. The Houston Lunchtime Sports Conversation most respected by head coach Bill O'Brien. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Matt Thomas.
Starting point is 01:21:39 In his career here in Houston. Of sorts. The Matt Thomas Show. For those of you are trying to figure out whether or not Donald Trump cheats on the golf course or not, the name of the book is Commander and Cheat, How Golf Explains Trump by Rick Riley. How does Rick Riley know all the Trump story? I guess he's, does he play golf with Trump before? I've never seen the books.
Starting point is 01:22:07 So I think just multiple reports from anybody who's ever played with him. Do you remember when Rick Riley was the blank? You know, when people would go to Rick Riley for everything. Go to Hugh B on the very last page of S.I. And I would always make sure that was one of the things I would have to read. We talked about it. I'd flip through everything. I'd read the whole S.I.
Starting point is 01:22:23 And Rick Riley at the end, I would probably skip the NASCAR. There were three people in sports media that I think have taken a fairly sizable drop in terms of national recognition. I think Rick Riley is one of them. I think Bill Simmons has taken a major fall. Remember when Mike Lupica was on ESP and everything? Something happened with the Golden State Orris. Here's Mike Lupica. Something happened with the Cincinnati Reds.
Starting point is 01:22:49 What does Mike Lupica think about this? Yeah, I guess so. He had a nice little run. What happened to those three dudes? What happened to them? Bill Simmons, I think, is still prominent. He had his, I mean, his HBO thing failed, but he's doing stuff at the ringer.com, and I think that website's doing well.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Spotify just bought them for $250 million. bought him bought the ringer oh really so the ringer's doing okay yeah so they just got it bought out that's what we need to are you are you a ringer person i listened to ryan ristillo's podcast and then i listen to they do like uh rewatchables sometimes like they just did one on armageddon where like they watched the movie and just talk about it as it happens hey by the way i'm glad you brought that up uh joe do you think we should do a twitch next week where we watch a game like you did uh we could Which, what do you want to watch? What are you want to watch?
Starting point is 01:23:38 Let's watch, because the Rockets Knicks feels like it's been kind of overplayed. You want to watch Rockets Magic? Yeah. Game one. Game one. Let's do Game one. All right. Were you doing here at the station?
Starting point is 01:23:49 We could, yeah. You would come to King One? I wouldn't do you at the house there. Cook out? You come to my apartment. Okay. And he's hit the hair wall. Yeah, but you got hair everywhere.
Starting point is 01:23:59 I'll vacuum. Wait, what are we doing a Monday night meeting? Not the next week. All right. Okay, good. It's one more old day. We need to rest. I was just making sure.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah. Well, Joe might be hammered by that time. Seven o'clock on Monday. Yeah, why don't we schedule it sometime next week? Okay. And we'll go to your apartment and we will watch the game. We can do it here. I'm going to be comfortable.
Starting point is 01:24:22 You got a couch, right? Yeah. Okay. I don't have to clean up. You go, don't you come to Kingwood's? Nice drive. Might have to bring all my stuff. You spend the night?
Starting point is 01:24:31 I'm not spending the night. Okay. If I get invited, I could supply the food. you're not invited. I don't know food. How many people can Twitch on at one time? Can you multi-twitch? Well, if we're in one location, we just need one camera.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I can get multiple cameras set up if I wanted to, too. Well, that would require a little extra effort. It's more extra. A lot of effort. All right. So why don't we do that? Because that's the one game. I think we've seen much on it.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I think I've seen every Laker Celtics game. I've seen every New York-Indiana game on NBA TV. The Rocket Spurs game from Game 6 of the NBA Final, or NBA Western finals was on yesterday morning on NBA TV, NBA TV. The Nick Anderson free throws and how they crushed an organization. You know we how to do. You know how people we miss hearing from? Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:19 I think I'll call Dennis Scott next week. See what he's up to? Yeah. 3D. You do sidelines for TNT. All right. We'll get him on the show. You guys are boys.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yeah. Do I bring up the game? Yes. A lot? Not a lot. How do I, how do I, how do I, how do I, how do I, go, hey, remember that time, Dennis, when your teammate Nick Anderson, bricked all those free throws and cost you all the game in basically the series?
Starting point is 01:25:42 And he have like a key turnover there, there too or something like that? But nobody's remember that. And he was never good again. Nick had never recovered. See, Joe, that's why I can't trust you with elevators and I can't trust you with pointing out questions. How do you effectively go to Dennis Scott without making him mad and say, remember that time that you weren't very good and that the free throws of Nick Anderson cost you a series?
Starting point is 01:26:03 No, Nick Anderson was never good again. Oh, okay. Dennis guy was good. Yeah, Dennis guy was good. But Nick Anderson's career was never the same. Dennis is my guy. I love Dennis. He's great.
Starting point is 01:26:14 All right. So we will try for that. And then maybe, do you think he'd watch it with us? Probably not. Maybe. He's probably never seen that game since and probably doesn't have any interest in seeing it again.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Could you imagine being asked to go watch one of the worst moments of your professional career? Yeah. I don't know. What's the worst moment of my professional? It'd be like me calling up Clyde Akeem, my buddy Reid Gedis and say, hey, why don't you come to the house? I'll cook out.
Starting point is 01:26:42 We'll watch North Carolina State versus Houston play. Just turning off before the last, what? No. 15 seconds? Because Clyde got in the foul trouble very late in the game or very early in the game. And then the free throws are, there's nothing great about that game. Zero. Except Jim Bellwana run around and, you know, just.
Starting point is 01:27:03 That's pretty cool. No, it's not. Hate it. Not good. people outside of Houston love it. No, I think America wanted the Cougars won that game. I think America was rooting for the underdog. I think America may have been
Starting point is 01:27:14 on drugs that day. Well, it's America. That's to be expected. Twitch parties you don't invite. I don't think I call Sean Jones up and Warren Moon and say, hey, let's go watch our orders bills game again. You want to? Yeah, I wouldn't want to watch that. What would you not want me?
Starting point is 01:27:37 What are the things? Chandler Parsons wants to watch the Dame Lillard shot. If you really broke that down, there were multiple guys that didn't know what the hell was going on, right? They were supposed to switch and they didn't switch. I don't know who was in the wrong.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I saw the Utah Rockets here. And granted, again, Carl Malone had Clyde's jersey hugging him. But John was still super wide open. So, this is, I didn't mean to end the hour this way.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Thanks, Matt. We're all depressed. We should watch happy events. Like Nick Anderson is free throws. Let's say hi to our buddy, Brian T. Smithy, with us every Friday at 2 o'clock and he'll start the final hour. Reminder, coming up at
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Starting point is 01:28:40 Here we go at 2 o'clock. It is the final hour of the week on Sports Talk. 790 at least for this show. And we visit every Friday with our good friend Brian T. Smith from the Houston Chronicle, who we've spent the last couple of weeks talking about when are things rolling to start
Starting point is 01:29:00 moving. It feels more and more like we're going to get some great information in the next 10 days from the NBA or Major League Baseball. Are they starting to play their cards right? Or do you still sense some skepticism somewhere with both these leagues?
Starting point is 01:29:15 Matt, I've tried to remain positive in the Houston Chronicle, realistically positive, it's going to be what it's going to be, right? You know, you nor I, and all the great readers and sports fans can fix it ourselves, but for the first time, it does feel like,
Starting point is 01:29:31 especially with the NBA, that it's at least trending forward, and just a few weeks ago, there was a lot of uncertainty, and you had all the rumors and the sourced reports about players feeling uncomfortable, which is fully understandable, but I felt so long,
Starting point is 01:29:47 You've said for weeks now that, you know, if they come up with a plan and the plan seems to be as safe and reasonable as possible, why in the world would the NBA not come back? And now we've had someone for Tito, we've had Chris Paul. You know, you've had enough different voices all hint toward the return. And I wrote about a month ago in The Chronicles that I've always felt like, for whatever reason, I don't know why. I think I just needed something to circle on my mental calendar, that June 1st might be a breakthrough. And June 1st is not that far away. We're almost at Memorial Day. June 1st is going to feel like, hopefully, a continued breakthrough for the country in terms of, you know, the economy opening up, Texas opening up, the rest of the country, and June 1st in our world for the NBA and maybe Major League Baseball. MLB is the one that continues to worry me.
Starting point is 01:30:50 The NBA, barring a snafu, seems like they increasingly have found a path to make this work. And hopefully every Friday when you and I visit the exact same time, we're getting more and more information. Is it proper? Is it okay for us to say this is more about money than it is a competition? Or do you think it's 50-50? It feels like for baseball. And granted, a lot of this is sourced and some of this are just absolutely idiotic and idiotic comments coming off of a Twitch video, which is, in a lot of ways, unfair to Blake Snell. I mean, what he said, the same thing, sitting down, speaking with reporters, probably not.
Starting point is 01:31:33 He was obviously sort of, you know, speaking off the cuff. For baseball, it does feel more like money. And that's the fault of the union. That's the fault of the players. I thought it was very refreshing to take Tom Glavin and Chipper Jones both come out this week. Not to attack current players, but just to say, hey, you guys, you look bad. You know, no matter how you try to sell it, if you say I will come back, but I have to receive my full pay, it has nothing about knocking down players.
Starting point is 01:32:10 They deserve their full pay. The problem is, if you have 38 million filing for unemployment in a nine-week period, and your average salary is $3, $4 million regularly. Nobody in America wants to hear that. Nobody needs to hear that. And it just looks absolutely clueless. So for major league baseball, Matt, it does feel like it has become ultimately about pay. NBA, not so much.
Starting point is 01:32:34 And we have not heard that from Chris Paul, LeBron James, Kauai Leonard, Paul George, you know, some of the biggest names, Russell Westbrook, some of the biggest names in the league. Maybe they say that privately, but publicly, they've been smart enough not to attach the return to play to pay. Well, I think a lot of that it's because, Brian, I think the players trust Adam Silver more in basketball than the players do of Rob Manfred and the owners in baseball. I think that's very evident in this case. That's a huge part of it, and I fully agree with that.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I think that the other part of that, though, and I've thought this for two decades now, nothing's perfect, right? I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say, hey, the NBA PA. I mean, the NBA PA has serious issues they've had at times. Adam Silver, I thought, made a serious misstep on China, et cetera, et cetera. But Adam Silver has spent the last few years, Matt, very successfully post-David Stern, positioning himself as a commissioner who at least listens to the players. I mean, not 100%, but for the most part, he'll listen to the players.
Starting point is 01:33:45 he keeps them inside. You know, he knows that, hey, our league is run and driven and sold by its superstars, whereas Major League Baseball, I mean, Major League Baseball can't figure out still how to properly promote Mike Trout. And so whether it's the Astros, whether it's the Red Sox, whether it's punishment, Major League Baseball has the strongest union, but it's during times of crisis, 94, right now, the steroid era, it's really struggled to, has any type of unity, and I think we're seeing that again.
Starting point is 01:34:18 And the reality also is the fact that the NBA knows because their league is revenue sharing that if they don't get all the television money of a completed season this go-around, it will affect future salary caps, say, in the next two to three years. And I think that was the point that Adam Silver made a couple weeks ago very, you know, well, and it was scary. I remember when he said it, neither you nor I know anyone wanted to hear it, saying, hey, we might, you know, I can't guarantee you, Silver said, we're going to have fans in the stands next year.
Starting point is 01:34:45 And if that doesn't happen, all of a sudden, our CBA, the way that we're structured in the NBA, we are not built for this. And then all of a sudden, yeah, you start talking about superstar teams and, you know, franchises were two or three guys making $30, $40 million a year. How do you support that? I mean, how do you keep paying those guys that? You would start to see franchises, you know, teams broken up, maybe teams have to move. It's all very drastic.
Starting point is 01:35:10 And that's why I said this all along, I fully believe if the NBA can find a way to return, it will. I believe baseball will come through in the end because they're not idiots and they don't want to be forever associated with 1994. And I think in a lot of ways look worse. 1994, you didn't have the coronavirus. I think baseball will finally come out of it. But if they don't, I don't know how they ever live it down. Yeah, because it took five years and a. miraculous home run chase for the sport to come back. You can't rely on one of those amazing
Starting point is 01:35:46 stat runs in order to save a sport that basically said, we don't want to play when you have, as you said, 30% of America out of work. As far as the NBA calendar is concerned, and all of us have been proponents of the December schedule, if you're Adam Sovere and he asks you your opinion. Could you even see it being pushed back at least next year, even further back, if it gives you another opportunity to put more people in the stadium? I don't think we've spent enough time talking about in all sports, whether it be college athletics, the NFL, maybe not so much then, but baseball and basketball, how devastating is going to be if we go to another season, a fresh new season without fans in the arena? Yeah, that's one of the other
Starting point is 01:36:26 dominance. I mean, part of it is just because everything in the current is so, uncertain, right? And so you can't even get to the next domino until you figure out the first one. That being said, I wrote this week. You know, one of the things that we're not talking about enough, because it's going to have to be a very quick decision, and it's going to be so important. How do they finish their regular season? Why in the world, my opinion, why in the world would Golden State, the New York Knicks, the Cleveland Cavaliers, play another game this season if the whole idea is to have as much safety as possible, you were exposing them. the needless risk and their season is already over.
Starting point is 01:37:03 And then that dovetailed into, yeah, you know, if this ultimately is a split, you know, it's partly about competition and finishing the season, it's partly about revenue. It's a gazillion dollar league. I'd love for them to start in late December. I would love for the NBA season to start on Christmas Day. I've been saying that. A lot of people have been saying that for years. But yeah, maybe Matt, it makes more sense to start it in, let's say, next February,
Starting point is 01:37:28 when you actually know you can get fans in the stand. because that's another part of this, is we want sports to come back, we need sports to come back, but when it comes back and there's no fan, I continue to wonder, what's it going to be like after the first week? Does it get old after a part of it? I just think the fan interaction in arenas during the playoffs, the regular season, and stadiums, is such an integral part to the competition and the games that we love, that until that comes back, it obviously it's not going to be normal.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Staying with the fans, to wrap up today, do you feel that there's so many different mixed, not necessarily messages, but just mixed ideologies out there about college football? Earlier in the week, A&M's athletic directors said that Fresno State and Colorado are going to come to play at Kyle Field. Then we don't hear it.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Then we hear about, well, California may be altered. Pack 12 schools. SEC is like, we're going full all-in. Ohio State's athletic. our director says we probably could get 30,000 people at Ohio Stadium. If there's anything that is fragmented in a bunch of puzzle pieces, it could be the 2020 college football season. Yeah, and that's because of the NCAA.
Starting point is 01:38:42 You know, I mean, that's, you know, whether it's pay for play, whether it's conference realignment, look at what happened at the start of the last decade with conference realignment. That was driven by the conferences. That was driven by the schools. And that changed college football. That ended up changing the bowl format. that ultimately led to the CFP from the BCS, all those things.
Starting point is 01:39:02 That was not driven by the NCAA. They're so weak, Matt, and they know that. And so that's why they struggle with investigations. That's why when they do investigations, it often looks backwards. That's why they're finally having to start in some way, you know, finding ways to kind of pay players but not play players when it comes to naming rights. And right now with everything, you know, it's not being dictated by the, national government. It's being dictated by the state government. You can agree if you like that or not,
Starting point is 01:39:33 but that's how it's happening. Texas, Greg Abbott, has infinitely more say right now in how we operate our daily lives than our Houston leaders, international leaders. And so when that comes to affect colleges, when that affects who's coming back, it's state-based. You know, it really depends on Texas or Tennessee or Georgia or California, not the NCAA. But it feels like, man, of all times that the NCAA football, whether it's power five conferences, whether they want to separate from group of six, that's fine too, but there is no central voice or at least Adam Silver is speaking on behalf of the league. Rob Manfred doing the best he can to speak on behalf of the league.
Starting point is 01:40:13 So too, Roger Goodell. I just feel like there's hundreds of voices out there in college football. And to tell you the truth, I don't know if anybody in the SEC really particularly cares of any other conference plays. Hell, they could probably just say, hey, half the teams are playing for national championship come out of our league to begin with. I mean, I don't know that it's going to happen, but you could easily see how if this continues to play out this way. And people have talked about this. I mean, at some point, do the Power 5, does the SEC? Do they just break off?
Starting point is 01:40:45 I mean, it's kind of the point, Matt, where the Big 12. in its own way. And it makes up these help. It could use you of age, jokingly. But the SEC... Not jokingly. Be serious about these things. But the SEC can run itself right now. The SEC doesn't need the national
Starting point is 01:41:02 government, you know, the NCAA. The SEC can basically run itself. That's how important and powerful and valuable college football is. And you're looking at an organization, specifically Mark Emmert. It's just, it's an emperor without closed. Nobody
Starting point is 01:41:18 respects it. Nobody takes it seriously. And even when they had to cancel the NCAA NCAA term, they did it in such a backward way. They ended up looking foolish doing that. Well, leave it that. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the morning. Matt, Matt, let me get in a really quick word. Jerry Sloan. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm writing about him on Sunday's paper. I know Rocket fans don't love the jazz, but
Starting point is 01:41:40 best coach ever covered in my career. It was a lifetime honor to do so, and I was only around him for, you know, a little more than half a season. But Jerry Sloan will always be remembered as one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time. And he was an even better. And I mean, it's in all sincerity. He was an even better person. So a huge, huge loss today in the NBA and the real world with Jerry Sloan's passing.
Starting point is 01:42:05 As I said earlier, having lived there for two years, I totally agree knowing about him more as a person than he ever did when you're living somewhere else. Thanks, B.T.S. Talk to you next week. Take care. You got it. Brian T. Smith with us here on the show. 214 is our time. 15 minutes away from the Fantasy 5. Ross and I will draft our favorite rockets of all time that never made an all-star team. Never, ever, ever made an all-star team.
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Starting point is 01:43:40 Download the free iHeartRadio app for your phone at Sports790.com. Just remember you'll have to feed him. All right, fantasy five and ten minutes. Did you see that Vince McMahon is kicking the tires on trying to get the XFL out of bankruptcy? Yeah, he said he would purchase the league back himself. I'm very confused on that whole thing. I don't really want to get into because it would take a lot of extra time. But guys, I was all in on the XFL as being that spring league fun, interesting.
Starting point is 01:44:18 I think a lot of our listeners really enjoy the experience going to the games, fun, team was good. I'm over it. Already? I'm not over the exit of the spring football or another league. I'm over the fact that Ms. McMahon is trying to
Starting point is 01:44:36 do some convoluted economic plan to bring back some of the teams. He's just not, he's not equipped to be running a sports league. He's equipped to running wrestling. Do we know how well or not well it was going before everything went down? No, we don't. I mean...
Starting point is 01:44:52 He didn't have to open the books. We know that they wanted to fire their CEO According to the XFL and they did Two days before the league folded And that's still playing out Seriously We got some roughneck fans of listening to show My middle son Peyton
Starting point is 01:45:07 Still wears his roughneck shirt once a week He loved the roughnecks Okay I'm just saying Vince stay out of it They can't I mean how can he stay If he thinks it's going to be financially viable, why can he try and do it again?
Starting point is 01:45:29 Because it seems sleazy that he shut the league down and said the chances of us coming back are very slim. Yeah. What are the details on that? What if he shut it down because of he knows they made mistakes of giving Bob Stoops more than a million dollars a year, giving June Jones all this money, trying to put a team in L.A. when they couldn't afford rent. All right, well, then here's what I'll do for you. Since you guys are marketing geniuses, I'm not saying this joking. I'm saying this is what you'd.
Starting point is 01:45:56 How do you market Vince McMahon coming back to you and saying, we're back? No idea. Now, you could say the virus kicked our ass, as a lot of companies could say. But realistically, you went from having a fan base that, again, it's limited fan base, but a fan base that adored you. to saying every employee is fired, season's been cut, not playing the championship game, thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:46:28 I don't see how you climb out of that hole. No, because how do you convince people to financially invest in your team again to buy t-shirts, to buy hats, to buy jerseys? Season tickets, any tickets. Yeah, how do you convince people to do that?
Starting point is 01:46:40 How do you convince players that this is worthy? Because there were guys that put blood, sweat, and tears in that, that it lasted five weeks. I just see the stories about it. And I just, I'd like to know, because here's what he could. Like, do you know the big three? The big three said we're not playing this year.
Starting point is 01:47:01 But we'd be bigger and better and stronger than ever in 2021. If I'm Vince McMahon, that's what I would have done. I would have said, look, guys, we, he didn't want, here's what it is. Guys, he didn't want to pay the salaries. That's why you file bankruptcy, right? For protection? Yes. He didn't want to close the season off and lay the people off
Starting point is 01:47:20 and furlough them. He wanted to flat out make sure he wasn't financial responsible for those deals. So this is like a skirting of the, if he uses one company and buys out the other, can you even do that? It feels like it does it not? I don't know. It feels slimy and sleazy and sleazy and skirting rules. It just, it doesn't feel right.
Starting point is 01:47:46 And I think there were a lot of people. that legitimately gave this league an opportunity to be the springling of the future. And I think you let your fan base down. And it kind of makes me think, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I can't imagine anybody legitimately going, well, Vince, I know you were goofing around when you shut the league down. So now you're buying everybody back. Come on, Anne. We'll go back and buy the tickets.
Starting point is 01:48:16 I don't see how one of the reports out there is he's already contacted U of H and then the St. Louis Sporting Authority about restarting their leases for the stadiums. I don't understand how any place could be willing to sign a contract with him again. And who's going to be his chief operating officer? Not Oliver Loweck. Certainly not Oliver Luck. Unless this lawsuit guy shows out of her luck was just the most horrific boss
Starting point is 01:48:45 administrator ever of a sports league. And I don't think anybody thinks that right off the top. Now, there may be evidence of the contrary that we may eventually find out. It just seems uber sleazy to me. Yeah, the athletic's Daniel Kaplan says, McMahon owned 80% of the league through his management company, Alpha Entertainment, 20% through WWE. And there is thinking that this is a ploy by him
Starting point is 01:49:12 to ride out the coronavirus, declare bankruptcy, so you don't have to pay your employees, you don't have to operate the league, so you don't have to lose any of those costs, and then buy it back and restart the league next year. That way he's saving money. Okay. So it's all in the eye on the beholder, then.
Starting point is 01:49:30 What a group of fans, thousands of them, Franklin, Houston, you know, 15,000, 20,000, whatever they were drawn. But they go, okay, that makes sense. We'll see you next year, Coach. We'll see you next year, Vince. I don't know. I don't know. But it seems like a smart plan from Vince McMahon.
Starting point is 01:49:50 if he's able to pull it off. It may be a smart business plan, but business and PR and appearances are a different animal. Well, they didn't even get to finish a season. If you went to a roughnecks games last year, why would you stop next year? I mean, this year, if you're going to this year, why would you stop next year?
Starting point is 01:50:05 In my mind is I'm not going to invest the time and the finances into a league that may pull the plug in a second. If there's a global pandemic, yeah, that's what led to this. Yeah, and then like the AAF, their fans are still waiting for tickets returns for their season tickets. but the people who bought roughneck season tickets, they already got their money back. So at least on that, on that leg alone,
Starting point is 01:50:28 you've shown that if something goes wrong, we're going to give our money back to you, give your money back to you if we have to fold again. So at least you have some confidence that they did it right the first time. So I guess it would take a business law person to help us out. Why wouldn't you just shut it down and say, hey, this pandemic's kicked our ass,
Starting point is 01:50:49 and we look forward to doing this all over again, or at least trying in 2021. And furlough every, like, can you furlough people for a year? I don't know how that would work either. I don't see why not. I mean, there hadn't been seasonal jobs at the team level. I can't imagine the Roughnecks office for a 10-week season and probably what, two or three weeks of training camp,
Starting point is 01:51:12 would be open 52 weeks a year. It's, and again, I don't have an economic background on this, but it just, guys, it just, doesn't seem, there's something about it that seems kind of sketchy. Vince McMahon? And guys, here's the thing about it, if you're a fan, the abrupt end of the season, the websites go down, the, sorry, thanks very much, out of here, bye. That didn't pull out you and go, damn, we were into you guys.
Starting point is 01:51:45 And you just dropped us. Well, they didn't have a choice. The NBA had to stop. The MLB is not running. But the NBA didn't stop and saying, we're done playing goodbye. We'll never see you again. I mean, the XFL just said, we're done. We're out.
Starting point is 01:51:56 We're finished. It just feels slimy. And hopefully, for those people that are XFL fans that want it back, you get it back. But call me really skeptical about the next run of this. Those will be two times the XFL is in trouble. Now, one of them is pandemic-wise, but I don't know. Vince feels like he's too old and shouldn't be getting involved in this. And that if somebody really wanted to run a Spring League, have good finances, have good leadership,
Starting point is 01:52:21 and not feel like they're just trying to rob Peter to pay Paul, I guess is what it would be. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we need five judges for our Fantasy Five this week, which is, and this is for Rocket fans, your favorite Rockets player as a Rocket. Like if you played one year for the Rockets and played nine years for the Warriors and was a great warrior, but he played a cup of coffee with the Rockets, that really wouldn't be the essence of what this contest is. what you remember them as a rocket. Adam Wexler and Adam Clinton are our celebrity judges this week.
Starting point is 01:52:55 If you'd like to also judge 713-212-5-790, 7-1-3-212-5-790. The Fantasy 5 on Rocket Grates and never made the All-Star team. It's next on 790. When you get home, Alexa, play Sports Talk 790 on I-Hard Radio. Time now for the Fantasy 5. Ross, we are joined here by a celebrity guest this week. Yes. We were supposed to have two, but the other one's gone for some reason.
Starting point is 01:53:25 That's okay. He's busy. He's getting some shots up or something. Hi, Adam Clayton. I don't consider myself a celebrity. My wife, you've got over 30,000 Twitter followers. That doesn't mean anything. That's a drop in a bucket. He's got a lot of bots. I'm not going to throw a party when I get to 40. I'll tell you that much. Well.
Starting point is 01:53:41 If and when. Or 35, for that matter. Wax! How are you? I'm better than I was when I was 10 feet away when you looked at me five minutes ago and said, well, I don't know where he is. I didn't know where you were. I didn't say you were hiding. I am. Normal Wex and a fantastic farty mood.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Time for us to believe the Fantasy Five. Why are you the way that you are? Me or him? You're always happy. Let me tell you, he better not change. No, that's what, look, they were like, hey, I'm not doing for 20 years. He's not changing.
Starting point is 01:54:14 They're like, who do you want to do the show with? I'm like, Wex, it's going to be amazing. He'll be in bad mood, 75% of time. It'll be a great show. All right, here we go. This is a list of we're talking about rockets as rockets only. Okay. Our favorites.
Starting point is 01:54:28 You better, listen, I'm going to be fair. You better bring it. And the only prerequis is they can have never made an all-star team as a rocket or anywhere. Zero all-stars during their career. I'm excited about this. Okay. Ross won the Fantasy Five last week, so you have the option of going first or going second and third in the snake system. This is a tough one, Maddie, but I think I'm going to cede you the first pick. I think I know who you're taking too
Starting point is 01:54:51 but go ahead see I think there's two number one picks I really well there's three number one picks hmm this isn't starting well for Matt well you have you have a clear number one in mind
Starting point is 01:55:09 no I just the way he's defending it no no I really I really am staring at the list and you're so evil this is great because I get to say on the microphone phone, what I think and say to myself every time I hear this.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Three number ones on my list, and I'll just throw a corn up in the air, three-sided corner, and I'll go with the kiss of death, Mary-O Willie. Junkyard Doug, good pick, Matthew. For me, in my first pick, I'm going to go with a man whose jersey I had, a man who had a nickname call, and it was Big Shot Rob or Big Shot, Bob, or Big Shot, What everyone would call him. Number 25. Seven time champ.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Robert Ory. Okay. Next. I have to go with this guy as a favorite of mine. I wonder if this will resonate with the judges. I don't care. It's a do-everything defensive player. He's on the team now.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Where's the same number as Mario Ellie? I speak of. The Texas Longhorn, great. The do-everything glue guy, P.J. Tucker. On the board, but not one of my three number ones. Okay. one of my number ones was Marioelli One of my number ones was Robert
Starting point is 01:56:27 Ory My number one was Speaking of ones, two of them Mad Max Vernon Maxwell Good pick Maxwell was on the board And now you've won Adam Clinton over I'm going old school
Starting point is 01:56:41 To the 80s I love the 86 team Of course, Elijah Juan And Samson But a guy that played for the Rockets for several years Was one of the great finish in Rocket's history and had one of the coolest nicknames ever in Rocket's history.
Starting point is 01:56:57 I speak of Black Magic, the late Lewis Lloyd. See, I have no context for him, but I knew he'd be on the list. I just didn't really watch. Okay, so Mad Max. Okay, I'm going to go, you know what? I'm going to go more recent because I guess that's just where my Rocket fandom is. I'm going to go with a man who was traded on draft day for Rudy Gay, who was a do-everything defensive player, just in all-rength.
Starting point is 01:57:23 around great and smart fella. I'm going with Shane Batty yet. That's my Shane Batty. I wanted to do that too. Yeah, we have his laugh in the system. He is one of the better all-time laughers, right? He's one of the better all-time guys. Yeah, he's a good guy. Great guy. On my list. Everything so far has been on my list. Next, the man's got Interstate 45 tattooed on his shoulder. He puts Astros H's in his hair. He is through and through everything that represents
Starting point is 01:57:50 Houston, and he just comes in and chucks up a bunch of threes, even though doesn't play great defense. One, Gerald Green, a favorite of mine. Okay. I'll go back to the championship years. A guy that also had a great nickname. A guy that was a good rebounder.
Starting point is 01:58:10 It could hit a, you know, basically a little five-foot Jimmy when necessary. Okay. Rinder, tough, a Rudy Tom Janovitch kind of guy. I speak of Amigo, Carl Herrera. Good one. on my list.
Starting point is 01:58:25 And last one may be a little more controversial. But remember, the key to this was, did you love him as a Houston rocket? Okay. And when you think of a player who you despise wear another gear, but you loved him as a rocket, you think of Patrick Beverly.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Of course. On my list as well. You get one more pick. Yes. You know, at the end of the day on these lists, you definitely have to have the white guy who tried hard, who was unathletic, but he made threes, and he is on the A team every week. I speak of one, Matthew Bullard. Absolutely. I thought you were taking Dave Jamerson.
Starting point is 01:59:11 I thought you're taking Scott Brooks. Is Pete Chilkot on the A team down, too? Although Scott never comes on the show. All right, so let's run through the list. Ross, Robert Ory, P.J. Tucker, Shane Badee, Gerald Grouch. Green Matt Bullard. Me, Mary O'Elli, Vernon Maxwell,
Starting point is 01:59:28 Sweet Luz, Lloyd, Carl Herrera, and Patrick Beverly. Can I ask this question real quick? Yeah. Did Sam Cassell not make an all-star team? He did make one all-star team. Okay. That's what he's awesome.
Starting point is 01:59:39 And I also, Otis Thorpe, a one-time all-star. I knew he did. That's why I didn't say anything, though, because I didn't know for sure. I don't want to ruin it. All right, since we brought you Gibonies in here,
Starting point is 01:59:48 let's let you get the first vote. Since you arrived first in studio, Adam Clinton. Oh, he's throwing shade still, Wes. No, I'm not. I'm just going by coin flip. It's accurate. You're going to be very happy.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Or will you? Or will I? Adam Clinton. Here's the thing. Mario Ellie hit the biggest shot in Rocket's history, in my opinion. And Vernon Maxwell, you could argue, hit the second biggest shot because his three in game seven against the Knicks pretty much clinced the first ever championship used in history.
Starting point is 02:00:16 And quit on the team in 95. But man-a-man-s. Welcome back. 20 years later. And quit on the team. Carl Herrera was like throwing his shoulder out of socket every other play just to, you know, basically spell Otis Thorpe after he got traded for Drexler. And Pat Beverly flirts with your wife every time you interview him.
Starting point is 02:00:35 I mean, I love Ross's list. I love Big Shot Bob. I love everybody in this. And Bull is on the show every week. But if I'm looking at these two lists of five, I think MTs slightly edges out Ross. And it's very close. Thank you very much. Have a good weekend.
Starting point is 02:00:49 All right. Get ready to tell Wex to go to hell. Wax! How are you, buddy? I'm not here just to make fights, so I could actually vote for Matt if I believe his list is very good. Started off great with the kiss of death. It kept getting better with Vernon, as Matt likes his ex-spers. Lou Lloyd, I like that. I don't think people realize how good Lou was and how much of a fan favorite he was.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Absolutely. I almost thought about Mitchell Wiggins too, but I've met Mitchell and I don't like him. That's part of it. You said your favorite. Fits right in. Favorites. I actually think you clenched it in the fifth round. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:28 With the Beverly Pig. I agree. I think that's what put your team over the top. And Matt gets a second vote. There you go, Matt. You know what? You guys are more than welcome to come by any time. Tell Ross to go to hell since we didn't hear it.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Ross, your list was good this week. Your first two. But you know what? It's first to four. It is. That's fine. Now, back there, Joe, George. Are you upset?
Starting point is 02:01:48 Are you still getting the seventh vote on this? this? He doesn't know who they're in. Half of these people are. I am getting the seventh vote because I know where my votes going. Uh-oh. Oh, geez. Jeez. Jeez. All right there.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Chad on 790, who wins a Fantasy 5 rostered me? Hey, guys, I want for you. You really have to go back to the 80s to remember. But this guy was a big part of our 81 championship team and 86 team and friend point on the 81 team. And that's Bobby Joe Reed.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Oh, yeah. Who wore 33 and 50 as a rocket? man he was smooth Matt since you went with the 80s play I'm gonna have to go with you my friend All right thank you
Starting point is 02:02:25 Great job Have a great more than people voting A bunch of what? What? I was talking to myself He's got two Basically active rockets on his list And he's wondering what happened
Starting point is 02:02:36 That's true All right Let's go to Jimmy on 790 Jimmy who won the family 5 Ross or me Matt PBE was a solid tick But other than that, you had too many players from the 90s,
Starting point is 02:02:50 and people aren't old enough to remember. So I've got to go with Gerald Green and Ross. Yeah, you had too many players from the 90s when they won championships. Yeah, too much of the heyday of the Rockets. All right, so Ross gets a vote, 3 to 1. Thank you. 713-212-5-790. Mike is with us.
Starting point is 02:03:07 Mike, who wins a Fantasy 5, Ross or me? Well, first of all, having Adam and Adam's vote should be illegal. So I'm going, wrong. Makes perfect sense Yes You know what? Go to hell Okay so let's run through
Starting point is 02:03:21 The two people that have voted for you Yes One Senate Because Adam and Adam are here I shouldn't win Correct And the other one said I didn't know any of them
Starting point is 02:03:28 Because I wasn't alive Yeah what's wrong with that If we had both voted for Ross Would he have called and said that There's no pre-screening for judges Yeah it's different strokes For different folks Maccom
Starting point is 02:03:36 We need one more We see him getting upset a little No no no no this Well if he loses this It's kind of like losing A 24 nothing lead I have come back From a 3-0 hole before
Starting point is 02:03:44 Let me tell you something Probably not today, though. It's fine. In the history of us doing the Fantasy 5 of I've said, well, Mylis is significantly better. Mylis is significantly better than you. Today? No, that's not true. I said it was close when I vote for you. Don't make me change my vote.
Starting point is 02:04:00 But that's fine. No, your vote's already locked in. I'm just kidding. I wouldn't know that. We need one person to call him because if we don't use him, we got to go to Joe George. I thought we were going to Joe. Well, Matt now doesn't want to because people who aren't familiar with the players won't vote for it. And Joe's of that generation.
Starting point is 02:04:14 Oh, all right. Joe, let's do it. Go ahead. What are you got? Are you going to do this? Make this simple. Oh, my gosh. I love Gerald Green.
Starting point is 02:04:22 Uh-oh, but... But I love Patrick Beverly way. Oh, there you go. Oh, really? So, I vote for Matt Thomas. Look at the smile on his face. He's so happy for you, Matt. I know.
Starting point is 02:04:34 You really did. The champ is here. Okay, when you win 30% of the time, you can't say the champ is here. How bitter he gets, too? He had 100% of the time today. That's all he cares. Do you guys have a running tally for this? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:46 We actually stopped keeping count because it was so... He's probably at 6535. It was so out of control. We just stopped keeping count because it was just embarrassing. Basically. Wow. How'd that happen? I can get one every now and then.
Starting point is 02:04:58 He's not Tim Floyd. Otherwise, Tim Floyd, that was not nice. Well, he called him, Phil Jackson. I had to hit you with that. Ross, great job at the off the top. Oriental are great.
Starting point is 02:05:07 But as many have said, Beverly pushed the other side to the top. I never even seen Luloyd play, so I don't know. Robert Reed was on my list. Luis Scullo is on my list. John Lucas on my list, but that was just because he was, you know, I love him to the day. Chuckie Hayes on there. It's one of my face. What about Chuckie
Starting point is 02:05:22 Brown? I know it was a brief tenure. You got your own out of them. I know, I got two actually. Who else? I don't know. Take a break. All right. We'll come back and wrap things up and celebrate my victory next on 790. Oh, you know what we're going to celebrate?
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Starting point is 02:06:40 Somebody asked me on email if we had an audio of Pat Beverly hitting on my wife. We do somewhere. I just don't can't find it in the next four minutes, but it did happen. It actually happens quite a bit. You just asked how your wife was, Matt. Matt, that's not getting on her. You heard the audio. He just says, how's your wife?
Starting point is 02:06:58 Well, I ask you that all the time. How's the wife? No, but he's also said, tell your wife I said, hello. Yeah, what's wrong with that? Say, hey, Adam, I'll see you later, man. Tell Teresa I said hello. Just friendly, just friendly talk, man. She works in the same building. Pat said it to Kim.
Starting point is 02:07:15 No. Or about Ken. Yeah, and he's, one time we were at the Staples Center, and he's, I'm walking to the team bus and he sees me and he goes, hey, what's up? I said, I'm good. How are you? How's your wife? I'm like, what? Are you in the off air? He's doing it.
Starting point is 02:07:30 He's just checking on your family, Matt. That happens quite often with NBA players. It's like entourage. I love Pat. With Seth Green. I hate Pat as a clipper because you know what Pat did this year in three, get the four games? He fouled out.
Starting point is 02:07:46 When you're an all defensive player, you don't foul out, right? You don't foul out if you're all, if you're like the most amazing defensive player in the league, right? Doesn't happen three times against one opponent in one season, does it? Probably not. No. But that one game we had in L.A. Do you remember when Lou Williams got kicked out and Pat got kicked out?
Starting point is 02:08:07 I think Doc got tech. I love a Rocket Clipper series. The one when Austin Rivers pointed his dad towards the showers? I think that was a home game. That was a home game. I would like Doc. I mean, I mean, I don't know as a woodlake. I do like Doc.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Okay. I got no issues with Doc, I guess. World champion. Hopefully it never happens in Los Angeles, but that's, you know. What's his real name, Glenn or something? Glenn, Doc Rivers. Okay. He was on that 95 Spurs team I was watching yesterday against the Rockets in the Western Finals.
Starting point is 02:08:36 He was on the 94 Knicks team. Was he really? He just didn't play. So he was a, most of his career, he was an Atlanta Hawk. Then I guess the cup of coffee with the Knicks. Played with San Antonio and then did he finish anywhere else? He finished with the spurs,
Starting point is 02:08:53 but he played with the Clippers between the Hawks and the Knicks. Okay. One-time All-Star couldn't draft him as a favorite role player. Yeah. If you ever go to a Rockets Clippers game, Doc will talk to you if you're in the first three rows.
Starting point is 02:09:08 You get the expensive seats. He will talk to you during the game. There are two people in the NBA that will talk to fans on those first three rows. He's one of them and Dwight Howard's the other. Okay. Just those of you that are thinking about, hey, do I have a chance to talk to a major NBA player or coach
Starting point is 02:09:25 and paying exorbitant prices? Those are the two guys you want to go do that with. You're going to go for Clippers games or Lakers games? Although if the Rockets are small-balled, Dwight Howard's getting played off the court. Yeah, who they punt at the five when him and McGee are both off? Anthony Davis. We need NBA back bad.
Starting point is 02:09:43 Yes. I need to refresh your course on these players and who they play for. It's been a while. It has been a while. like Ben McLemore walk in here and say hi I'm Ben McClermar it's hi Ben how are you play for oh the Rockets I forgot about you were a rocket you're a rocket like the Rockets have made like a bunch of acquisitions since all I don't know I can remember every one of them yeah it's it's been a lot yeah all right so that is all uh coming up uh hopefully the next handful of days
Starting point is 02:10:12 July 15th according to Spencer didn't what Spencer telling us telling the whole world he thinks CNB will start by then. The guy who he quoted John Geiger or something like that. He said June 21st is when teams come back for... Full workouts. For workouts. Apparently, season July 15th. And then the...
Starting point is 02:10:33 Apparently, playoffs July 25th. So 10 days? Can everybody get in five games in 10 days? Yeah. I mean, theory, yeah. You're staying in one city. You're not traveling. You can play a bunch of back-to-backs.
Starting point is 02:10:48 The question is, I know the A team was arguing about not arguing about debating this yesterday. Do you play five or do you play to get to 70? Because if you play to 70, then that's going to be an uneven amount of games for the close of the season. I don't know. But if everybody plays five, you would then just take winning percentages at that point.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Yes. More speculation about the future of the NBA, all coming up in the next hour. Apparently, Jeff Blum is also making a guest. Is he? Wow. They get a lot of great guests. You notice that? It's a wonderful show.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Chandler Rome, a Matt Bullard. Jeff Blum, a Matt Bullard, John McLean. John McLean didn't go on the show. Well, maybe if John McLean, if they call John McLean, John McLean would come on their show. It's because you know why it's that good?
Starting point is 02:11:35 It's the A team, and it's up next. Have a great weekend. Talk to you all on Tuesday here on Sports Talk 790.

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