The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - MJ Stories Seem Embellished, The Utah Pizza Guy, NFL Rooney Rule

Episode Date: May 19, 2020

Much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. 12-0-1-19. What's happening in lunchtimers? Good afternoon to you and welcome to a Tuesday edition of the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790, alongside our producer Joe George. My co-ho's Ross Villarreal.

I'm Matt Thomas. It's very nice to have all of you with us today on an absolutely glorious God, I wish Ross we were outside doing the show somewhere. And starting... It's a tangible one. A little shade. Maybe a ceiling fan will be fine. But I mean, look, there is not a cloud in the sky sports RV.

So we live in this city. Yeah, as long as we have you a kerchief to pad your brow, if the sweat breaks out, you'll be fine. That's funny. That's funny. Strange thing, I went and got my teeth clean yesterday. I was thinking your teeth look great. Thank you. I don't remember you staring at them, but that's...

That's fine. It didn't happen. So just to show you how strange the world it is, and I don't mean to get into teeth cleaning early on, but you can't wear a mask while somebody cleans your teeth, right? This is something anecdotal. First of all the staff, the hygienists, I mean, were just covered up. I mean, they had extra masks like a Darth Vader mask. Yeah.

They had all over their mouth. And that is normally the case. But you don't go sit inside the wait in the dentist office like you used to. I waited in my car. And then they call you and say, come on in. You had to get a kid. Okay. So I think I know where you're going with this.

I thought this was a little bit weird. So I sat down and got in and they took my temperature immediately. I said, if you are at a hundred point four or higher, we cannot have you in. So I'm like, I've been Mr. 98.6 for ever and ever and ever and ever and ever. You were 95.7 when we went to a restaurant a week ago. That's true. So they put the little thing on my head. I was 100.6. and I'm I so for about a millisecond hold on I'm backing up oh there's the end of the story on this

for about a millisecond I was like what I feel great there's nothing wrong with me no I didn't feel she goes don't worry about it people that sit in their cars their temperatures tend to rise yeah would you have the motor running and the air conditioning barely the air conditioning going So I waited 10 minutes and I got comfortably under 100 and then I come on in. But it was just, it was just the even like, you know how many people are coughing now that you think, oh my God, that person's sick or I'm sick? Every time I have a little, any tickle of anything. So that was the little mini flip out moment of the day was, wait a minute, I can't go and get my teeth clean because I'm too, my temperature is too high and they goes, sit here.

I sat there for 10 minutes and it went down two degrees. But it just shows you how everything is magnified. And that's why Major League Baseball Ross and the NBA and the NFL got nothing to worry about. They're going to have everything down to a team where they're going to make sure everybody's in 100%. And if they're not, they'll get kicked out, just like the UFC did. No spitting, no high fives. We've got to get to spit talk. And we won't do it right in this second.

We're going to do it in the next segment with the show because our buddy Chandler-Rome from The Chronicle did probably one of the most bizarre stories in the history of his life. And if you've not seen it already, you should go check it on the Chronicle. But we'll give you some of the details on it in a little bit. I got to tell yesterday, we did our Monday night meeting. And by the way, I officially apologize to Joe George for not tweeting his name on there. That was purely accidental. Second time in a row. That's not true.

Wow. That's not twice in a row, Matt. I guarantee you, Matt, a hundred percent of fact. Okay. If that happens again... But thank you for the apology. I appreciate it. We're good.

Yeah, I did it publicly here. And I also done on the Monday Night Meeting, by the way. By the way, you should guys check that out. We're doing most days at 7 o'clock. Ross wants to do it at 8 o'clock so he can have a nice microphone next week. So we'll do it at 8 o'clock next Monday. Get the green screen, get a microphone going. Yeah, we'll make it a professional production, if you will.

So I'm at my office and I'm typing up getting ready for the Monday night meeting that we do on Facebook. And my buddy, Scott Gerard, who's been on our show before works for the number one sports station in Salt Lake City. And he is promoting, he's also their program director. and he is tweeting out quotes from this guy about the pizza situation. And so I'm like, you know what? I'll go on their website. I'll give it a listen. Guy's name is Craig Fight.

And he was, this is the guy that says he made the pizza and delivered it to Michael Jordan's hotel room in Park City. And he clearly gives you a different story of what happened. And so the first thing I did is I texted Scott. I also text another guy that works at that station, Salt Lake City. And I said, is this legit or is this a bit? Because Joe and Ross, you guys know, radio people tend to do bits. Every now and then.

I mean, Jim Adler and a mobile. We'd love for have Jim Adler come on the show, but frankly, we get Jim Adler on a mobile instead. Okay. There's a number of situations Jim can weigh in on. Yeah, we've had a variety of people on a mole before. This guy, and again, I don't, he's been picked up by a bunch of different stories and been interviewed by a bunch of different people. He sounded legit. I reached out to him. I texted him. And he's like, yeah, thank you very much. I'd love to tell my story. So, uh, his wife even

acknowledged on her, on his Facebook page that he's getting his 15 minutes of fame right now, but he's going to take it because he's pissed off that he was, he was the one that supposedly gave Michael Jordan food poisoning. And he wants to dispel that. So he'll join us at one o'clock today here on Sports Talk 790. Wonderful. So I think even if there's some combination of truth in this, it does again show you that Michael's going to direct, especially in a Michael Jordan documentary, he's going to put an agenda out there,

and it's going to let that bad boy go, regardless of whether or not anybody wants to challenge it. Isaiah challenged him not making the Olympic team because of Michael Jordan. Isaiah, I should say Michael made up things about LeBrand for a that weren't true. Houston sports legend Labrardt for Smith. Yes.

I say Michael was upset that George Carl didn't shake his hand and now he was going to make him paid for that. You know, I was even questioning, you know, in the last episode, they were talking about how Brian Russell was talking trash when he was not playing. I guess Stockton kind of backed it up,

but I'm like, Michael Jordan might just be making this up. You don't know what to believe when he's like, okay, he's going to motivate himself for this one. Do we even believe this even happened? He kind of reminds me. And this may not be the perfect example. You might have a guy at your office that's a really good salesperson. And he's going to brag about his accounts.

Well, he's the kind of person that might double what he says he brought. Like I said, I brought $2 million in the company. He'd be the kind of, Michael drew me the kind of person that would either half what he says or double it. Meaning he's going to embellish. He is going to be that Michael is the great embellisher and that he might want to embellish things to help push a story along. I mean, the Bradford Smith thing, though, it's like he's hallucinating.

Like, he's just completely made that up. All the people, during that time when Michael was a relatively young NBA player that he would go and use a lot, I mean, first, the fact that he would use a Washington bullet to motivate him is troublesome spot number one. But why wouldn't you go say,

man, Dominique got in my face. You know why Dominique, you know why he didn't use a star player's name? Because Dominique would go to the media and say, that's not true. I never said that. LaBradford Smith is just, I mean, granted, he was the first round pick, but he was never really anything special in the NBA.

He had one, you know, or maybe a handful of amazing games, one of them the expense of Chicago Bulls, he thought, if I'm going to go pick my poison and go after somebody, I must go up to somebody that's not going to argue with me. Case and point about, you know, who Michael went after on the team. Michael Jordan, did he get on, do you get face-to-face with Scottie Pippen a lot? No. He got in face-to-face with Scott Burrell.

he got into a face-to-face with Steve Kerr. Not Horace Grant or Dennis Rodman. He didn't tell Dennis Rodman, you piece of blank, blank, blank. Why did you go to NWO wrestling? Why did you go to Las Vegas for a few days? He just kind of, I don't want to say Ross brushed it aside, but it was kind of more matter of fact than anything else. Because I guarantee you, in that documentary,

if Michael Jordan, if Scottie Pippin said, I need four or five days off to go relax, he would have dog cussed Scottie Pippin from the moment he left to the time he came back. He picks and chooses his battles a little bit. Different rules for different people on the theme, yeah. So what this whole pizza thing has done, and besides giving this gentleman Craig fight at 50 minutes,

is it's either he's either lying or just pushing an illness on that could have been caused by something, frankly, something else, like maybe partying too hard the night before. right? Yes. See, but that one's hard for me to believe because I feel like he could have gotten, he would have been fine.

There was, as Joe told the story about how we got really, he had to go to the hospital once. Yeah, I over drank. He got IVs and he was fine and what? Like an hour. Like, seriously, I was, and like, I was good to go home in like 20 minutes. And they kept me just to be safe, but I'm, I didn't know if I looked.

I wouldn't say like I blacked out. I didn't drink that much, but I woke up the next day. I was pale. I was dehydrated. I was like getting sick. So I went to the hospital because I thought I had alcohol poisoning. And they were just like, oh, you're just dehydrated. They gave me an IV and you're really hung over and I was good to go. Because here's the thing. If you have the flu and all of us have had it, it's going to kick your ass for a couple of days. And obviously if you watch the game, like I remember watching the game lives as it happened, he did look awful. But he still scored. Still scored a lot. Still made big shots. So, you know, I don't know what to believe. All I know is is that this gentleman has taken this story. And I guess, you know, again, Ross believed that you'd heard the food poisoning story before. I had not. But we'd heard a number of theories.

There's the partying overnight in Vegas or hungover or food poisoning. And then, of course, the original story, the flu game. Yeah, Vegas to Park City, Utah, where the bulls were staying to Las Vegas is about an hour and 15 minute. flight. It's not very far. Hmm. Just saying. Make sure Dennis Rodman knows it well. I'm sure he does, too. A lot to get to today. We have spit talk on the radio show.

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Yeah, sorry about that sweep, H-Town. But we're all good right now, right? World Series champions. Back to your lunchtime champion, Matt Thomas. Thank you, Blum. Hope you'll be busy here by July 4th. the way, CBS Sports putting out a report today that it sounds like things are going better between the Major League Baseball Owners and its Players Association.

San Diego Padres Catcher and Union Representative Austin Hedgetold. Is that my saying that right? Hedge told. You guys know Padre Catchers? No. Okay. Says, quote, over the past 48 hours, it really feels like we're getting some stuff done. I really do believe we're at a point where a decision will be made. I feel very confident it's going to happen.

Now, obviously, they're talking about safety, which you saw with the athletic report, the weekend, and then compensation. Do you think, what if they'll shake off of the 50-50 thing? Because here's the options. The owner's stand pat on 50-50 revenue sharing. B, they get away from it all and say, all right, you're going to play half the games, you're good half the Saturday, which is what the players agreed to to begin with,

or do you think they could go for this year only? We'll give you a 52-48 spot. Again, I don't know the economics of their business. I'm just curious if that's an option. Well, we talked about it on the Monday night meeting. I was kind of Googling around and came across an article from Forbes from last year from January of 2019. And it talks about the percentage of compensation. So the owners want a 50-50 split.

If you go back to 2015, the player's got 57% of the revenue, then 56, then 56. then 56, then 54. And that's just anecdotal. That does nothing to do with their collective bargain. That's just the bottom line of what... That's just kind of the way it's been played out. So the way it's been played out.

And also over the last five years, revenues have been up. And their percentages have gone down. So it kind of plays to their argument that, hey, when revenues are up, you guys are pocketing it. And now when revenues are down, we want us to take the loss.

So I kind of see where the players are coming from on this. But don't you think the owners are also taking the loss too in this go around? Because instead of getting some money from, there's going to be zero from the stands. Right. I understand it. They are taking a loss.

But like I said, if you say, hey, I want to share this with you when we lose, but I'm going to keep it when we win, the players are like, hold on now. And so I kind of want them to stand firm. I understand where they're coming from now. So the economist in me, economist in me says, then maybe they look, if they're going to do a revenue split for this year, that they're going to want closer to 57. Right. It's going to be, it's going to have to be something higher than 50, I think. It'll be, I mean, it'll be interesting. And it's funny.

Because they've asked them to open up books, right? The players union? Yes, they have. And I think that their baseball is trying to slowly, but they don't want to set a precedent. You know how they, that the players don't want a precedent. Nobody wants to set a precedent. The baseball are like, we don't think we want you to see everything. What books?

We're not books. Well, there's always this theory that should the employees see what the employer's books look like? Is it, is it their business? But I think baseball and unions are a different animal. It's like, I would love to know the I heart books, but I'm not going to be privy to them because I'm just an employee. It would be at the advantageous of any employee. It would be advantageous of the players' unions, and it would be advantageous of regular employees to know their company's books. They keep them secret because they have leverage and they treat certain people different ways.

That's just how good. That's just business. Yeah. But professional sports is such an different animal because no matter how awesome the books are, with the owners, if they don't have players playing the game, there are no books, there are no numbers, there are no profits. So, yeah, and it feels like we've not heard any owners say we're holding to 50-50. Maybe that was just a starting point, knowing that it wouldn't take long for Forbes

and other people to find out that Major League's been 58% or 57%. Yeah, I don't think the owners are stupid. They wouldn't come out and say, you know what, guys, you take 55. I think the baseball is really negotiating in the public right now. If you remember back to the Arizona story, when the families were going to be not allowed, and then that was immediately shot down, and then they changed it right away. Like, it feels like baseball is basically using Jeff Passon and Ken Rosenthal to negotiate ahead of time with their players. Like, they're leaking out major stories, and then they're getting killed for it.

and then when it actually comes to negotiation time, it seems like the owners can say, oh, that was never the truth. Yeah. It is reported. Guys, you're right. It isn't ironic that ESPN and the athletic and the Associated Press were able to get this 67-page manual.

Nobody was floating an email. It wasn't an accident. Yeah. They did it because they want to get the agenda out there. Yeah. I think, yeah, especially with the Arizona thing, I think they kind of wanted fan reaction and player reaction. on that. But as far as this negotiation, I mean, how much are we hearing since basically last week?

And you know what for me, when they don't speak? To me, that's a good thing. I agree. When they're not in public making this a war of words, that gives me encouragement. If we, yeah, if we had seen a leak from Ken Rosenthal tweet, players are standing firm on not coming in or 50-50 split. To me, that would be okay, well, the owners probably leaked that because negotiations are getting tough. We haven't seen anything like that. So I feel like this means things are progressing? So what that means also is that the Players Association told its membership,

y'all don't say a damn thing, but the problem is when you get on Twitch and you have a couple of pops, you may be saying things you're not supposed to be saying. Like brough 57 times. Like for instance, does anybody Twitch without drinking? When's the last time you twitch, Ross, and you haven't had an alcoholic beverage?

I would say about 25% of the time I don't. I usually have like one or two beers. That's not what he asked, Ross. The last time I didn't, I don't know, two weeks ago. And you're a fairly good Twitcher. I do it like once or twice a week. Some people do it every day.

But it's like every time I'll get your Twitch account, hey, just having a couple of pops and twitching. That's what these players are doing. They're bored. So they're twitching and they're drinking. And when you have, when you drink, you have loose lips. And that's why probably you're not going to hear another word from Blake's the rest of the way.

Again, the less they'd say it out loud, the better for me it is. Now, our buddy Chandler-Rome, who is on, weekly with Adam and Adam. Uh-oh. They have all the great guests. Don't tell Wex we're having him on. No, we're not having him on. Okay.

I respect the boundaries of shows, unlike others. But I digress. So, he put a story out today that if there was a Pulitzer Prize for, like, daily beat writers, I think Channel Rooms were right at the top of that list. He was listed in literally a list of, like, best beat writers. He tweeted out like last year a few months ago or something. I mean, I want him to touch a woman. soon. I mean, I really, really do.

But until that happens, because he's been quarantined, he went and pulled two baseball games. There must have been on a DVR or best of, and he wanted to check out how much saliva was being thrown around at these games.

He chose an extra inning loss on August 16th, and he also chose Game 7 of the World Series against the Nationals. One was played outdoors, and that had to be the one at that had to be game seven when the astros lost and the other one was the minute roof was closed so in the august game he the tracking stopped it from nine innings so not to skew

the numbers the television broadcast which was on AT&T caught 55 instances when astros players either spit licked themselves or touched themselves or touched the their mouths. Okay. That would be 55 illegal infractions. In the Game 7 World Series, the most important game of the, the last game of the season, the Astros, just the Astros, touch them, I mean, they touch their mouths, lick themselves. Oh, geez.

Or players spit 60 times. So it went up when the stakes went higher, Matt. in that first game against the A's. How many licks per inning is this? In the first game against the A's, Jose Al-Tuvae committed 18 of those 55 infractions. Remember I brought up on the meeting last night. The guy chooses nails. That's hand-to-mouth.

Right there. Other guys at the top of the order. George Springer, Jordan Alvarez combined for six spits. Michael Brantley did not spit in either game. Channel Rome is a freaking God. He sat there last night. Meanwhile, I'm watching you funny moments on Family Feud on our YouTube rabbit hole. I'm caught up in that big time.

You know, like dumb answers that you see? He is watching games to check spits, touching of mouths, and other things. And remember, that's only what the cameras caught, Ross. That's not the time the cameras didn't catch something. want like can I talk to like January 2020 Matt Thomas for like one second that's what like hey Matt in four months you're going to be breaking down an article from Chandler Rome counting the amount of times that's correct players spit yes your thoughts uh I've Ross um I don't know where you want the direction of the show to go but that's not the one we're going to so let's

not even discuss that why would I want to talk about saliva for 15 to 20 minutes per hour in the middle of the Astro season and the Rockets playoff run. Ross, be better than that. Just trust me, Matt. In four months, it's going to be a segment on your show. I wouldn't believe you. Initially, it's his furtherhand story. Initially, the games were picked because of the starting pitchers, Verlander against the A's, Granky against the Nationals, both were dominant, but only one needed salivatory support. Salivary support. Salivary? Yeah, salivary. First of all, I'm four. I'm four. 48 years old.

No, how old am I? I don't know. No, I'm 46. I'm about to be 47. I've never on the air in my entire, almost 30 years in career in this business, ever said salivary on the air, but I just did.

So during Zach Granky's six and two thirds innings, remember how good he was in the World Series? He was fantastic. He was the starter. He was the goat. Granky licked his finger 16 times. He spit before the first pitch in the first inning.

13 other times Granky blew inside his bald-up fist Or bit near his fingertips Even provoking Fox analyst John Smolts to provide commentary Quote, it's a little cool here in the dome May see some pictures blowing in their hands Is everybody going to have to get hand warmers? Look, how about this?

You have like a holster on everybody's belt of Purell. And every time they spit or touch their mouths or bow their, they just hit the PRL. Can't do it. It's going to put some funny substances on the baseball. No chance. Ooh, yeah, Purell. Some of that,

I was at a Chinese restaurant and they had some hand sanitizer that never come across before. It was sticky. I'm sure Mike Fires would love to get his hands on some of that. Ladies and gentlemen, Chandler Rome, our hero,

took seven hours. hours of his life. Unless he, I guess maybe not something. Maybe fast forward during the... No, you have to mark it down. You have to pause. He's not paying attention what the nationals are doing. So he was just focused on the Astro stuff.

Still. That's a haul. That's a four-hour day. At least. Watching spit. There's nine guys on the field. That's way more than a four-hour day. Yeah.

Because you got to like watch the inning al-tube for the inning. Right? You had to had somebody with you on this, right? Did Chandler break quarantine to do this? No, he was at home. Is that what you're suggesting, Ross? I'm suggesting that it would probably easier to do if two people were watching. I told you, I'm telling you right now, I told us to know I'm on Twitter.

The three of us, let's go take him out to dinner. Chandler? Yeah. I mean, I'd be, I'd love to drink for Chandler. Look, I'll buy. We'll go get drunk. All right, now I'm thinking about it. I'm definitely in.

Because we got to get him out of his apartment. I'm assuming he lives an apartment. You got to be a buy and drunk. Maybe he lives a condo in a condo. Point being. Perhaps in a tiny. Anyhouse. The man put in the hours, he needs a break.

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He's not hacked with the way he's being portrayed. The slander will not stand, Matthew. We will get to the bottom of this Pizza Hut controversy. Now, I have told the audience about my slanderous food preparation. I forget.

Oh, when you used to make floor burgers? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Joe's heard this story. Joe, would you like a little story time? I do not know the story and I think I do want it. You don't know how Matt used to make floor burgers. I was a very, very good employee for McDonald's.

Didn't you rise to the ranks of a system manager? I finished. I started there when I was 16 and finished when I was probably 20 or 21. Got my first job in radio back then. And so I just couldn't do both. That's a good, that's a solid five years? I did. I did, I did birthday parties.

Did you dress up like Ronald McDonald? No, just just did parties. It was fun. Good tips, too, especially with the hot moms. Really? Oh, yeah. You took care of those. You said hi to the hot moms that were like recently divorced.

You got bigger tips. I would do really well. And then you tip them? Well, say, hey, you've ever been with a 19-year-old before? Okay, we'll move on. So I worked very hard. Cooked, cleaned, scrubbed. I mean, everything that a McDonald's employee had to do, I just did.

It was a great learning experience, and part of my response, I think my future success was because of the diligence that I put in as a McDonald's employee. You owe it all to the Golden Archers, what you're saying. Some of it, sure. And that's why I always give the respect to the fast food workers of America today, because it is an externally hard job. well I had a co-worker her name shall remain nameless Angela that had a drug and alcohol problem really a fast food employee and if you've you all heard this story before I apologize but you know

what we're in non-sports I've been working with you every show for 10 years and I barely remember the details so go ahead so I'm when I would when I was working in the fall I was you know I was a mascot of my high school so we had games on first Friday, I would work Saturday night and close. Flip, if it was a Saturday game, I'd work Friday night. So one Saturday night, and this is when we weren't serving breakfast. I never served breakfast at night, and you know, how they served breakfast all day long. Yeah.

We didn't do that. We didn't do that. Yeah, people were clamoring that for that for years. Forever, never, never, never. So Angela came through the drive-thru with her fellow druggie alcohol boyfriend. I'd have a problem with him. She was bigger problem than anything else because she was just as fraud. But that's not the hearing or no there.

So they come in the drive-thru, and when you work with someone for a while, you recognize their voices. Yes. And she was blitzed. Yes. She wasn't driving, was she? Who knows at this point? I don't know. She goes, hey, man, what's going on?

You know, when you're in the grill area, you get to hear the drive-thru, because people are ordering stuff, and you have to make it as you hear it. Hi, Angela, what's up? Can I get some hot cakes and sausage and egg muffin? ha ha, ha, ha. Angela, it's 1140 at night. I'm trying to close down the grill. What do you want? Can I get some biscuits? I'm like, okay.

So here you hooker. I didn't say that aloud, but I just, I was thinking it. She goes, can you make me a Texas burger? And you know how I like it, don't you, and Matt? For those of you, they don't know what a Texas burger. It was a classic. It was a terrific burger. It was.

onions, lettuce, mustard, and heavy pepper. Just double the amount of pepper we would normally put on an hamburger. Sounds good. So I made her a special M.T. Texas burger. So what else did I have besides heavy pepper? What else was heavy on it, Matt? I did put an exception amount of pepper on it. That's fair, right, Joe?

No, they can bother you at this point. No, it's okay. Might make you sneeze a little bit, but we're all right. But again, people like heavy pepper. Regular onions, maybe an extra thing of mustard. Because, you know, if you have too much mustard and a burger, it's going to slop all over your hands. So I thought, you know. Okay.

But before that, I toasted the bun. Yes. Compose yourself, Matthew. This is not a proud moment. I think it's great. She deserved it. Remember, she deserved it. I licked the buns.

Are you licked them? Yes. This is not me endorsing Walmart Bluebell, okay? I'm just telling you, this was very special. person. And how'd you feel about it, Matt? I felt so bad that I took her patty and I dropped it to the ground several times. Several.

Several. Probably three or four. So she had heavy pepper, Matt's saliva. So she got the special burger that she so richly deserved. She got licked bun, heavy pepper. So you licked her buns? Yeah, I did lick her buns. Well, it's actually just a single bun, right? Okay.

And then the patty. failed multiple times in the ground. Wrapped it up, served it and said, tell Angela her special Texas burgers ready. Special order. You should always be weary of any person saying special order. That story is, what are we hearing? We're at 20.

That story is 23 years old. No, no, no, no, excuse me. It was 87, 88. Oh, wow. No, it was 89. So I'd be 31 years old. That's a 31-year-old. You were 16?

Yeah, because I remember I was mascoting the night before and had to go work the next day. Oh, okay. You were a mascot for like three years running? Two years. Wow, back to back. Yeah. Did somebody come for your crown after the first year?

Because you have to try out, right? Yeah, try it every year. You had to try out second year? Yes. And you're a back-to-back champ. Back to back. Wow. I didn't know that.

I mean, Uncle Greg would make funny about it. Oh, of course he would. I'm actually impressed. So that's the story. And again, my radio show, I'm not going to hide things. I mean, I'm going to hide some things. Yeah, I'm going to hide some things. But that one for me.

And it wasn't because it wasn't a regular person. It wasn't an ordinary customer. It was just a drugged out, whacked out, alcoholic employee in mine who wanted to give me grief about serving her served breakfast at 10 to midnight when I wanted to close and go home. So she faced the wrath of young sports empty.

Wow. Before the sports empty years, frankly. Now I'm much more responsible here. I would hope so, Matt. Okay. You're not vindictive or petty at all. So I don't think Craig Fike did this. the pizza man. Matter of fact, he's probably going to give you the opposite.

He's going to say, I took this, I treated this pizza with kid gloves. I didn't serve Walmart fresh meats on this pizza. So we'll get an update on his, not retaliation, but his defense of, I served Michael Jordan a good pizza. And we'll hear from him coming up in about 18 minutes. 713212.579. Aggie fans, you'll have two non-conference teams coming to play in your stadium in 2020 if there is college football. 713, 212-5-790, 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. 12-42 is the time.

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Brent Zorniman works for The Chronicle. He tweeted out 15 minutes ago, guys, that A&M's Ros Bork, is that the athletic director at A&M, I believe, is how you pronounce his name? Okay. Said both athletic directors at Colorado and Fresno State have told him they plan to play at Kyle Field this year. Now, plan to play and we'll actually do it are two different animals, correct? Yeah. You can plan to do whatever you want. But four months away-ish, the optimism should be high.

Yeah, I would say if it would be better than Ross Bjork announcing that they called Colorado and Fresno State and they're unsure of the situation. Yes, yes, they plan to play. Which means they're probably booking hotels. they are booking flights, you know, like the charter aircraft, buses, that kind of thing, food. You know, so it's funny. Every time you see something news related, you start to think about, is this an encouraging sign? Is this a sign that's forthcoming or is this a sign, you know, if it's the opposite. That makes me feel better about college football.

I still have a feeling, boys, at the end of the day, college football is going to be a fragmented sport this year. I think it's not necessarily regarding to the conferences. I think it's going to be focused on what stadiums can open up to fans, how willing there are to do that. But could you see the SEC? How many teams are in the SEC? 14. 14, yes.

Could maybe two of them not play this year? I mean, do you, of the, of the, let's go to Power 5 conferences. Because I mean, let's, as much as I hate to say this, that's all we're worried about. I mean, that's what the major college. football world is worried about as a Power 5 conferences. Sorry, Matt. So how many other, how many teams are in Power 5? 60. Let's use those as a round number.

I would say maybe because Big 10 has a ton, right? They have 14. I see as 14. But the Big 12 only is 10. So that's 34, right? 38 right there. So I'll say 60 just for the sake of 60. That feels like to me,

are we going to get all 60 even playing? We're not. And the Big 10, Northwestern's president said they won't play a full, they won't play if not all their members are participating. But I don't buy that. So Northwestern's saying it's either all of us or none of us? Yeah, that's what they're president. Well, that's not true.

That's what he's next thing. So let's say Purdue backed out. He would say, I'm not playing if Purdue is out? Yeah. I don't believe that. No, I don't either. I think they're trying to put that front out there that like we're all united, but at the end of the day, it's going to become cutthroat.

How are we going to? how are we as a collective group going to determine a national champion? They're going to have to be alter schedules. And it feels like to me at that point, boys, we're going to have unbalanced scheduling college football, right? How are you going to be able to have all these bowl games? How are you going to have? I think bowl games are an afterthought to tell you the truth.

I mean, I can't even think about the bowl games. I'm thinking about, you know, you're talking about the national championship goal? Those as well. Yeah. I think they'll do expanded playoffs. Because let's say this. If A&M just got assurances today.

Not assurances, but got the feeling that Fresno State and Colorado are coming. What if another school's non-conference opponents say they can't come? Are we going to have A&M play 11 games and say Mississippi State plays 9? I think that's very well within the Rimal possibility. That's going to be crazy. And then that committee who's supposed to determine a national champion is going to then have to wrestle with, do we give those other teams credit for playing the extra?

games. And if you're one of those schools that plays more games than the other, do you penalize them for losing a game like that? Like if Alabama only plays nine games, but they're undefeated at 9 and 0, but Auburn goes 8 and 1, I should say, well, it wouldn't be undefeated because Auburn would lose to Alabama. I'm trying to think of another school that would be in that league that has a loss because they played one more game.

would they be penalized for that loss because they play the extra game? I think so. I think 8 and 0 is better than 9 or 8 1. You're going to have to weigh the competition. What if somebody goes 8 and 0 and 0, they don't play any good teams? Or 9 and 0 or 10 in 0? It's going to make it as 10 and 0 and they played Louisiana. Like LSU goes 10 and O, they played Louisiana, Lafayette, Nichols.

Yeah, it is going to be as subjective as has ever been before. Yeah. I mean, we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. Right now they're saying they're going to do it. They're saying it's going to happen in September. and at least of the Colorado Colorado State Games

there is resolutions on the table for Major League Baseball NBA seems to be trending in the right direction I mean I think Darrell Mori said it yesterday on the 18th talking about the German Bundes League are going this weekend

that's kind of everybody watch close see what happens how do they do things how do the fans react how do we take care of this this and this what could come up that we haven't really planned for they have that blueprint and then college football

is going to have the blueprint of hopefully the NBA and Major League Baseball as well. So hopefully by then, everything will be kosher? What's the blueprint for putting 100,000 people at coffee? There's not going to be 100,000 people with Calhift. Do you have many Aggie fans have season tickets? Probably a lot.

Do you know how many of them spend a lot of money? Well, they'll save themselves some heartbreak this year. Well, they should always try to save themselves some heartbreak, but they're going to want to go. doesn't Alabama go to college station this year? I believe that's correct. How do you, how is money going to talk? The more money you give, the greater chance you have to guaranteeing a seat.

Oh, that looks like they go to Alabama. And what about those luxury boxes? Are I looking at the right schedule? I think so. 2020. Yeah. At Alabama home for LSU. Oh, the LSU game. How are you, how do you, how do you take a hundred, how do you take 75,000?

fan. What do you think season ticket count is at A&M? 50,000? I guess. Maybe more than that? Whatever the max is. Yeah, whatever the max is. And tell them, well, you don't get a chance of that one. Or that you're in a lottery system. Now, the easy answer could be, this is the breaks. This is what we're going through right now. It's better than nothing at all. That's what that is the answer. That's what it would have to be. The thing that I'm going to be very curious about is how you determine champions I guess you'd play the same amount of conference games, right? You wouldn't...

But what if you're West Virginia? You're having to make massive travel trips down south because you're the furthest team northeast and the Big 12. Do you play less games? Do teams and conferences play each other more than once because they're close to each other? That's definitely a possibility. Maybe Texas versus A&M comes back.

Let's not get ourselves. I'm dead on that. It's not... You're telling me... makes it. They're 90 miles apart. It takes the coronavirus in order for the make this to make this happen. It's going to take... How profoundly sad is that? An act of God

to get Texas at A&M playing back against each other, at least for one year. Oh, man. So pathetic. So awful that it took a pandemic for even that. Has anybody even thought about that? Well, hell, if you're A&M, you don't need it. Yeah, you got Colorado, Colorado State.

Is Colorado State on their schedule? It's Fresno State. I'm sorry, Fresno State. That's what I meant. You got two non-conference games. They also have North Texas. That's drivable? Abilene Christian.

Done. Okay. Tough. Forget it. Don't even bring it up. No need for bringing up pandemic and A&M Texas talk. It ain't going to happen. That's a tough non-con.

Especially when you have those two schools ready to come to your building. Are those all those games at Kyle Field? Yeah. Wait a minute. A&M, you got four non-conference games and are all at home? Abilene Christian opening up. Yeah. And then next week, North Texas.

Texas, and then Colorado. And then Fresno State later in the year. A couple years, a couple weeks later. Whoever is scheduling A&M deserves a medal. You're going to play four. You're not going out of conference on the road at any of those? No, correct. You brought up a good point, though, because Avelin Christian gets a check to come there.

Sure. And that check gets paid by ticket sales and in stadium revenues and all that. Is Abilene Christian? getting a big check? No. An Abilene Christian cannot fund its athletic department without that check. By the way, did you see Central Michigan dropping track and field? Not that anybody cares about Central Michigan, but point being is that we're going to see more and more.

It's trickling. We've seen this team has canceled. What was it? Akron canceled? Since it's baseball, right? No, something else. Yeah, it's hard to keep track. People are canceling baseball and lacrosse and all this.

We're going to see that. That's going to happen. Yeah. All right. Let's go to Salt Lake City next. and visit with the gentleman who made Michael Jordan's pizza. Clarification once and for all. As we start this second hour,

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So I called my buddy up Scott Gerard, who works at 975, the zone up in Salt Lake. I said, hey, can I get a hold of this guy? And his name is Craig Fight, and he's joining us right now here on Sports Talks 70. Craig, it's Matt and Ross. First of all, thank you for joining us. you have made quite a few radio appearances here in the last 24 hours, needless to say. Is that accurate? Yeah, that's accurate.

And they're ramping up some more a little bit here and there. Well, I appreciate it coming out because I find the story fascinating. And I can tell you, because people have been asking me, because I lived in Salt Lake City for a couple of years, about various places to eat and whatnot. And I enjoyed my time living there. So let's go back to that time. Let's first of all, let's establish you were in Park City, Utah. Is that correct at the time of this pizza being made? that's correct and you guys and the chicago bull stayed at the park city marriott which back then was

brand new it's been around for a lot many years in fact i've stayed there a couple times it's a great hotel uh but you were uh at the time you were how old were you what were you doing did you own the place or your manager just an employee uh tell me about the relationship you had with the pizza place uh i was uh an assistant manager there i had just been hired not too long ago i I can't remember when I started, but I was relatively new to the point that I hadn't even done a delivery yet for it, which is one of the reasons why I went on this delivery, and we had two people doing it. Okay, there you just said the first thing. Tim Grover said five, and you say two.

So was he seeing people, or did you forget somebody? Well, he was seeing people. There was only two of us, and at the pizza place, we didn't have that many people that were, go with us to go do it, especially at the time frame that had happened, which was, I believe, I'm not believe, Michael even said it on there that was roughly around 10 o'clock, which is correct. It was towards the, we closed at 11. So it was back, it was towards the evening time, and, you know, there was just the two of us. We don't, you don't send multiple people to go to pizza delivery.

You sure is that don't send five. I don't know where that came from. Yeah, that was a weird number for sure. Do you remember the phone call coming in, or is that something that you don't have recollection of? Well, I was not on the phone. I didn't answer the phone. But what I do remember about the call was that our driver, I mean, to say, and as a reminder to everybody, normally when the Bulls ordered anything from us, it was larger orders, you know, like 10 pizzas or whatever, that kind of thing.

And so when this one came in and it was that late at night being delivered to the Marriott, the driver happened to motion to me. And the one I remember is the driver motioned to me and had said he pointed down at it, finished the order and then looked at me and he says hey i think it's one of the i think it's the bulls and he says maybe one of the players i said oh okay so that's how i remember the phone call so you made the pizza like you normally would any single night it's 10 o'clock i'm sure me you're right you're closing um you and your co-worker get in the car and how long how far is the pizza hut from the hotel or was it's i don't know if it's still there it's well the pizza that's no

longer there but uh the pizza was just across in high school and so the Marriott being down at the base of Pardt of Main Street, you basically just hop on sidewinder, drive which is maybe five minutes to get up to the Marriott from right there. Okay. So you and your buddy... Not like there was traffic or anything. Yeah. So you and your buddy go upstairs right on

because this is the time where pizza delivery guys can go right to the room, I'm assuming, correct? The pizza guys, yeah, you go up to the rooms and stuff like that, sure. Okay. Generally it was one person, but in this case, obviously, too. Whenever you send a new delivery or anything along those lines, you always obviously had somebody there to their training or whatever. But, I mean, to be honest, we knew if it was the Bulls, you know, you never know.

You get a chance to see one of them. You don't know. But there were two of us. That was it. Yeah, and you knew, and you did not know who what the pizza was for. It could have been for Scotty Pippen. It could have been for Dennis Rodman. It could have been for Phil Jackson.

You didn't know ahead of time. It was Michael Jordan. No, I did not know until we got off the elevator. And again, I think it was the second floor. I can't remember the floor. But where we got off the elevator. to go in there. One of the guy, I want to say it was one of the players, but to the effect that somebody asked,

hey, pizza, who's that for? And I told him the room number. I didn't know who, you know, we didn't have a name, the name we had. And I know it wasn't his name, and I don't remember the names that they used. We know that, you know, everybody after using different names. Right. But from that standpoint, he said, oh, that's Mike, no touch or whatever. Something to that effect.

He's like, we're not touching it. You're out of here. See it. And so then we went over to the door. and, you know, delivered the pizza. But no, I had no idea until that moment, until, what, 10 seconds before I knocked on the door, however long it took me to go over there. We had no idea it was Michael.

It was for Michael. So you go in, you give the pizza, you get your money, you shut the door, and then you think this was a cool moment in your young life as a Pizza Hut employee, that you got to deliver a pizza to Michael Jordan. And my guess is immediately after that, you didn't think twice about it. Is that fair to say? Yeah, absolutely. except for the whole, what, 10 seconds, 20 seconds it took, you know, and as I've said before

the other ones, you know, I just got a quick, hey, thanks, man, from Michael and stuff, and the door was shut, and I'm like, well, that's done, you know, and then we left. And yeah, outside of just regaling what was going to be one of those neat little moments where you had a chance to meet a star or something along those lines or someone popular, that was it. I didn't think much about it. You know, there's also a theory that he was hung over. Did he seem to have his faculties about him at the time. Honestly, I did not. His back was to me when he said, thanks, man, or waived.

And so from that standpoint, I wouldn't know. I didn't have any kind of interaction with him outside of that. I seem to remember when I asked when he said, because obviously it's your one shot, you're sitting and I said, hey, would it be all right if I said hi to Mike or something to that effect, I want to say hi to Mike. And I remember how I recollected, recollect it is, you know, the trainer opened the door a little bit more, and he could have said something,

or Mike had heard the conversation, he just said, thanks, man. But we're talking five seconds worth of time frame right there. You know what I mean? Okay. So that's all that happened there. So everything sounds pretty normal, then. You go home, you close up the Pizza Hut,

you go home, get some rest, and then you turn on the television the next day, and I heard you on within the Salt Lake Station. You were a Michael Jordan fan going into this, correct? Absolutely. Absolutely. I saw him back when I lived in Virginia, and I remember when I really, I can tell you when I first heard about Michael was when he hit the shot against Georgetown because I was a Hoyas fan, Big Patrick Ewing fan. When he did that, you're like, oh, who is this guy? And then, of course, everything went on from there. Okay, so you sit down, you're going to turn on NBC. You're going to watch a Delta Center with all your fellow Utahans.

And Michael Jordan comes in sick as a dog complaining of flu-like symptoms. Did you think about at any point during that, day right after. I hope it wasn't my fault. I hope we didn't serve him a bad pizza. No, I didn't think it was my fault. And I'll tell you, because this is obviously a key part for a lot of people. What happened was I remember watching and we found out he was sick. I did get a phone call pretty much as soon as it was announced. And again, you have to forgive me. I can't remember the exact details. I want to say it was someone from work laughing, hey, way to get Michael sick and, you know, try to win the game for the jazz kind of thing. Because I was the only Bulls fan inside the store.

And so from that standpoint, you know, no, I never thought we got him, you know, it was whatever. But I guess everyone kind of insinuated because they're all like, I guess at that point, the way I have always remembered the story was I saw something, but, you know, I saw people talking about or whatever. at some point in time, I honestly, after I've looked at it and thought about it and talked with a few people, I can't really remember whether it was that one or whether I'm merging the two series together and saying, oh, I remember when Bob Costas talked about it because Bob Costas obviously wasn't in that 97 series. So, you know, I apologize for it not being exactly detailed correct in that part. But someone along the line, someone at that point, the insinuation, especially with people calling me and saying,

hey, you know, way to get Michael sick and stuff like that. But, you know, I'm sure I, that's when I, that's when the story comes up that I threw the prick at the TV. Because I didn't get him sick. But it was never the part where I said, oh, it was my food that, you know, something I fixed him, got him sick. Right. But if that makes sense, I hope I'm making sense. It does. It does. Craig fights with us.

He is a gentleman that lives in the Salt Lake City area that has, you gained quite a bit of no variety here for, basically, you're pissed off that during the last dance that Michael, through your pizza under the bus saying it was the reason it was food poisoning and not illness. And so let me ask you this. Has this been a, and my partner here, Ross believed that he had heard food poisoning before. I never have because I didn't really pay that much attention to it beyond the fact it was called the flu game. Had this been something that had been irking you for a long period of time or did this just last dance conjure up a bunch of new memories? No, I've, well, I'll tell you, I've told this story for years and I've got kids that I've coached. high school football for many years. And I've got kids that I've told since the early 2000s

this story because it's just a neat little story to tell. You know, it's one of those neat moments. So I've told this story forever. In fact, I did a, the people are talking about the post that they said I did, I did a post on Monday because of the last dance. That post, actually, I wrote in 2018. But what really kicked me off over the whole thing, and I guess I don't want to say kick me off because I have no, you know, I'm not getting anything out of all of this. It's just the story's wrong. And when they finally came out and started making the point of that they thought five guys showed up, you know, murky guys showed up.

Right. And we were trying to get them sick as Utah Jazz fans and stuff. I'm like, well, that's a bunch of crap. That's not what happened. There was only two of us, and that's how the scenario goes. So I'm just trying to get that part of the truth out as to what happened. So when this is being brought up, or buddies you're calling, or, I mean, obviously, a Salt Lake radio station wanted to put you on.

I mean, has this been one of those situations that, I mean, this will never get resolved, obviously, because it's only, Michael's word is going to be on ESPN, and you're just calling radio stations here and left. So it's now comical, but yet I will say this in your defense, and I don't know you. Again, I've only heard you on the radio station yesterday. Michael has been able to reinvent some facts during this time, and very informative, interesting. So to say that there are people that probably have your side on this wouldn't be an understanding, because I think, again, there hasn't been 100% complete truth on this,

especially when people in life cover up problems of I partied too hard or I was out late. It's always easy to go to the food poisoning card. So I just think it's kind of funny that this finally came out after all these years and that you're like, man, I was there. I know what I served. I know what I cooked. There are nothing wrong with it. Right.

Yeah, and that's exactly right. And I would, you know, I hope this little part, because literally, you know, again, I did nothing besides deliver a pizza. And one of the guys in Salt Lake made a great statement about the fact that this is the most fascinating mundane story ever. You know, that it just, you delivered a pizza, it lasted all of a whopping 10 minutes, and yet it's run its course to be in what obviously is one of the greatest NBA games of all time. And I hope people appreciate that I'm not trying to be a part of that. what I don't like and what kind of, you know, that credibility part is where you're like,

this guy comes out and says the five guys and all these things the way they recall it. And I'm like, well, you guys meet people all the freaking time. And I'm sure you're trying to say what you say and do what you're doing there. But for me, that was that one moment. Yeah. There's the everyday Joe that just had that moment. That was my moment. And so I hope that when I tell my story here, the way things are going and I try to issue what I remember being the case that happened.

and I'm sure something's going to know that hope that doesn't defeat the purpose of what I'm trying to do, which is my goal was to basically say, hey, this guy thinks there were people trying to make him sick and did it on purpose, and that's not what happened. Yeah, basically trying to ruin a reputation of a community for saying we can figure out a way to get somebody sick. We'll just poison his food. So I understand we're coming from on that. Craig, it was very nice to have you on the show today. You said you're a football coach now in the Salt Lake area? down in, I'm actually down in Orm, which is outside of Provo there. So I'm down there where I coach football down there.

I used to live in South Jordan, so I know exactly where you are. But Craig, thank you very much for the time. And I don't know if you're going to open up a pizza place, but I think you'd do quite well, to be honest with you if you did it again. This is going to be interesting watching this whole thing play out. So anyway, I appreciate the time, guys, the chance to save my piece there. All right, take care of yourself. Thanks.

Craig, Fight with us from Salt Lake City coaching high school football in the Aurom area, which is just south of Salt Lake City. Ross's man just trying to earn a living. Cook a pizza. And his name has been drugged through the mud ever since, Matt. He's like, five guys. It was me and one other guy. Because it did seem kind of weird that five guys would show up to serve a pizza.

You know, the legends grow over the years. All of ours. Yeah, we all in Bell's stories. Trust me, especially Ross. All right, 115 on the Matt Thomas show. 713-212-5.79 if you want to get in. 713, 212-5-790. If you've not had your roof inspected at quite some time, I want you to call bronze roofing right now at 281-480-9900. 281-481-9-0-9-0. Within 24 hours, you'll have a professional up from bronze roofing, up on your roof, giving it a thorough inspection for free.

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NFL owners have tabled the resolution to incentivize the hiring of minority coaches and general managers per source. And somebody in those mentions had a question that I did kind of, like exactly what is tabled mean. And so he says it won't be voted on today. It will be continued to be discussed and possibly amended for a resolution for a future vote. we can have a responsible segment on this, right? Okay, I think we can do this. I think the hiring practices of the NFL need an overhaul. This is not trying to be political.

This is just being an open and honest human being. Because you know, we are the most apolitical show in sports radio history. Yes, we are. But this is an NFL topic. This is something that's happening. Yeah. So what's the right thing to do? What you do not, I don't want to be.

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ownership. I think there is this inherent thing in humans to be tribalistic and it's not really even our fault. I don't think it's racist. I'll say that. I don't think owners see a black man and they say, I hate this black man. I'm not hiring it. I think

Matt, let's just say you're at a cafeteria or something in school or wherever. Okay. And there's a table full there's three tables. One is all black people. One is all white people and one is all Hispanics. And you don't know anybody. Naturally, I would go sit at the table with all the Hispanic

people, probably. Just because Oh, you mean, that you're taking your train, you're going to sit down. Right, exactly. You would take your trade. Maybe probably, I would guess, probably sit with white people. I think black person would probably take their trade. Probably sit with... I don't think that's an inaccurate state. And that's, I think it's kind of a natural thing that just happens.

And nobody's saying just off of that there. That doesn't make you racist. Does that make me racist that I? I sit at the Hispanic table? I don't think so. What makes you racist is saying, I'm not sitting with those people. Yeah, they're terrible.

No, that doesn't mean that. So I think it's like, so a white owner, just for whatever reason, sometimes it will probably maybe hire a white general manager. And that white general manager

will probably maybe hire a white coach. That white coach will hire white assistants. So I kind of think it starts at the top. So you're saying if we get more minority ownership, there's a greater chance. It would be a greater chance. I think we need a minority owner. So I think it's a trickle-down thing, and I really don't think it's a hate or racist thing.

I think that term gets thrown around way too easily in 2020. Absolutely. I think it's an intrinsic tribalistic thing, if that makes sense. You know what you honestly need? And I need you to look up Tampa Bay's coaching staff. Because I watch Bruce Ariens on a real sports within the last calendar year. And I believe both his coordinators are African-American. Byron Lefich is for sure his offensive coordinator.

And Todd Bulls. Tom Bowles. There you go. So what is probably going to take is it's going to have to take the Anglo-White coach or general manager to start the process. It's going to take people to go, you know what, I don't care what color they are. I don't care where they're ethnic, where they're from. These gentlemen can coach their asses off. I think there's also another problem that they aren't addressing and they don't address, and I'm not sure why.

the NFL has a nepotism problem. They allow coaches to just hire their sons. You've got Steve Belichick. Last year in Carolina, Scott Turner, or North Turner, hired his son and his son-in-law all to be on the staff in Carolina. Kubiak has signed his son.

Like there is a, to me, there's a nepotism problem too that's preventing qualified people from getting these jobs because they're hiring their son's friends and their kids and they're just hiring buddies. Let's go to some examples. Wade Phillips has been an excellent coach,

was a son of a coach, and lived as a, you know, since what, the late 1960s is as a coach either in football or in bat, in pro or college. So he's got a lot, his resume is more than impressive. Look how he didn't hurt who his dad was.

Didn't hurt. Look at who the NFC coach was this year. Yeah, Kyle Shanahan. Bill Belichick's dad was a, was a, scout in the NFL circles. So, you know. And I'll say it doesn't work.

Doesn't say it doesn't work, but they're going to get a little bit of an advantage. So then let's flip it, just for this argument of flipping, Joe. If Shanahan is this great offensive mind and a great coach and needs his opportunity, he doesn't want to be punished because his last name is Shamingham. And that's, and he shouldn't be either. It goes both ways. Yeah, that's why this is so difficult. because I'll be honest with you, the one name that kept being brought up a lot this offseason was Eric Bianney.

And was it because Eric Bannamy couldn't talk to teams because he was busy coaching the Chiefs offense? Or was it because Eric Bannamy, you know, there are, and I'm just throwing this out because I don't know anything about him except what he's done with the offense in Kansas City. That's been fantastic. There are a lot of great people in coaching and in leadership and in life that are great lieutenants but can't be captains. maybe he doesn't interview well who's to know Andy Reed's Coaching Tree has also not been super successful and I don't know

I would think that as some negative stench with whoever comes from his system sounds like a negator yeah I'm just telling you I I like to have answers to a lot of things yes and this is so when you don't have answers to something

you don't necessarily go down that avenue because again I don't want to speak ill-informed but it is I mean I think basketball does a really good job of making sure general managers and coaches of all ethnicities get the opportunity yes baseball certainly has done a better job in the last 20 years the NFL just hasn't the Rooney rule you would have thought would have been better but frankly it's just a well we have to have a Rooney you know you feel like that candidate's going in there just because it looks good on paper and the Rooney Rule has improved the hiring of the minorities I put this because I looked at there's a It's on the Wikipedia page. From 1920 to 2003, that's, what, 83 years, there were seven minority head coaches hired in the NFL, not interim, hired. So that's 80 years plus seven. Since 2013, it's 2003, 17. So in 17 years, I'm sorry, 15.

15 and 17 years when it was just seven the previous 80 years. Yeah. So there's improvement, but probably not at the level that it should be. All I'm saying is this, when the Texans smarten up and fire Bill O'Brien, I want Eric Bannamy as a head coach of this football team. I like that. Go ahead. He'll be a head coach next year.

You're asking me to let Bill O'Brien have his time with this? Well, you got him like at 7 and 9 or something. I'm just going to fire him now. Yeah, because he's going to get scooped up. So I think it's just about opportunity. And it's just about... And frankly, if Byron Lefich, if takes Brady to new levels next year, he'll be up there for a head coaching position, at least should be.

And that's another thing is a lot of these people who do make it are former players. And it's not always the case for head coaches who are white. It just takes a little bit more. It's not an impossible hill to climb. It can happen. It's just a little

more difficult, just because it's systemic. It's just the way it is. And I don't necessarily think of it as racist. I just think of it as tribalism. I'll just keep going back to that word. And you're going to take somebody like a Bruce Ariens to say, you know what, I'm going to buck from the norm. I'm going to try something different. So you need perhaps, and this isn't in the new of politics, but it's just about taking the guy at face value, no matter what the skin color is.

And so, you know, there's a small part of me because I like, I've always liked the Buccaneers for some reason. Because of their uniforms. You like the cream schools? I do. But I grew up in Summers in Tampa growing up as a kid. So they've been kind of my de facto NFC team that just sucks so many years. It's just hard to root for a team like that. I think Bruce Ariens a guy I would like a lot.

I like his staff. I like that Tom Brady went to Byron Lefwich's neighbor's house instead of his own. I mean, you know, these are anecdotal things. Tom Brady got a ticket in Tampa Bay for practicing in the park. He didn't get a ticket. He got like a behavior stuff kind of thing. So I don't know. We'll see.

I just, I wanted to bring that up quickly because Jim Trotter brought that up on Twitter a few minutes ago, that indeed that has been tabled. And probably the right thing. Because again, I would feel just as bad being the can at getting it just because my skin color helped me get my team a few extra spots. That's not the way I want a job. 131 on the Matt Thomas show, 713212-570 if you'd like to get in.

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Four three. Listen to the home of the Rockets on your smart speaker. Just ask. Hey, Google, play Sports Talk 790 on IHartRadio. We've got a pair of degenerates here in the old 790 studios. There is a game currently on ESPN2. It's featuring something called the Bears and something called the Dino. It's a Korean baseball organization.

The game was played, my guess, finished 30 in the morning. Yeah, I finished 8 or 9 hours ago. It is curled. Come on! Come on, Fernandez. Bottom of the first. Make some solid contact, bro.

Who's NC? That'd be the NC Dinos. Dinos are 3-0 over Ducson. The Ducon Bears. The Ducon Bears. NC Dinos, best team in the KBO. Hey, the Bears are coming back, baby, they're reigning chance.

And you guys have made a bet on this game when the game has already been completed. Well, both of us are, well, I see, I trust Joe. He says he doesn't know the result of the game. I trust me. I know I don't know the result of the game. Can I look it up? No, don't do that. No. Just spoil it.

All right, I'm going to look it up because I'm looking at my computer. You think I'm show prepping. I'm going to look up the score. And I will not tell you how it is. Well, yeah, if you don't tell us. But now, are you getting odds because you're already down three nothing. It's a dollar. It's a very small bed.

Matt tried to sell it. You always put us on something. Sorry, I'm new. You're getting rid of you soon. It's okay. When are you leaving us? What? No, I think I'm here through June.

Okay. That's good. You're like, you're like an MLB contingency plan. Are they floating out ideas or what to do with you and checking public perception? I'd like to have a farewell party for you at some point. He's not going anywhere. Yeah, I mean, I'll still be on the A team. You'll still be on the night cat.

We only, starting at two, do you ever notice we at 2 o'clock we lose him? Wex and clank on there and talk and they're going. And they're like, screw this show I'm on right now. He's like, where's Garrett? Can he just come in here and run this thing so I can go prep the real show? Yeah, the one he cares about. Screw it up. It's not right.

It's not right at all. We've given you more fame than the other show has. We give you the opportunity to give us a non-flora survey Thursday and you destroy that. That's a good point. We give you the seventh vote on the fantasy five when you gave it to Ross last week, which is utterly ridiculous. I don't think it was. Okay. Oh, good to have you, George.

Do you ever have a Florida story for me yet, by the way? You said you were going to get one. Yeah, Matt. I wanted to give you the Kentucky cheerleader one, but I couldn't hold on it with that long. Yeah, that's a second straight movie about a great story. That's also not a, it's a tough story. Why, are you sad? No.

Are you a huge Kentucky cheerleading? Do we know the Kentucky girls get, have rib injuries and whatnot? Probably. Or are they just naked jumping in a home? An adductor strain. General Sorness. Discomfort? By the way, that's a good nickname for a new mascot.

General Sornis. I think my baseball team was elbow discomfort I'm going to go for that my fantasy baseball general sourness General Soros Yeah By the way is you really Are you still playing fantasy baseball after all these years

Yeah I'm in a dynasty league I drafted a league God I haven't played fantasy baseball in probably 20 years Yeah I'm in like a really deep dynasty league But we were waiting to draft And the funny thing yeah I was make we were making fun of the guy who drafted Justin Verlander like like hi he's hurt And then now there's no game so it doesn't matter

Now he's got scoreboard on you. Yeah, exactly. Derek on 790 at 139. Derek, how are you? Your phone is terrible. What do you... What's going on? All right, we're going to let you go.

It's just a bad line. It's not terrible. It's not our line. It's not our line. Ours was a on a beat tick. Okay, yeah. Hopefully it's ours. Derek, call us back on a better phone line there.

Derek, by way, for those of you don't know, is he still working at strip clubs? I don't think so because they're not operating. I'm saying. What's he doing for income? Some of them tried to say that they're restaurants because they have very fine steak buffets, man. Well, the buffets are gone. Yeah, you can't.

Oh, let me, let me, we got two minutes left in the second. It's like, I can do this. Do it. This should come to no surprise to any of you. I love buffets. I do too. I love Chinese buffets. Because you can get the sweet and sour pork and then a little sweet and sour chicken, then a general sows, then a cassi chicken, a Mongolian beef, a pepper steak. Who won the Chinese buffet of Fantasy Fun? You probably did. I'm actually not, I can't recall that one.

You might have won. And frankly, it's probably going to extend my life, the fact there is no more Chinese buffets. Buffets are, but buffets generally speaking are a place I used to all the time, sweet tomatoes, the salad buffet. That's Gonzo. There is, I saw. I want a world, Ross, where buffets are back in play. Yeah, I did a thing. There was a thing on

it was on Twitter. It was a video. Somewhere in Asia, they did an experiment where they had a luminescent dye that you can see in a black light. Okay.

They put it on one person's hands and then had everybody eat at a buffet. And at the end of everyone eating, they turned on the black light. And that dye was everywhere and it was on like five people's mouths. It was a little jarring to see how the dye was just,

completely over, it was overall a bunch of plates, every handle, people's mouths, people's hands, people's faces. Thanks for telling this story. I'm sorry. You brought up the buffets. It's not good for germ spreading. Joe George, you look like you're going to eat a buffet once in a while. Bet a while.

We're done with buffets. You know what? That's a sad RIP. That might be our greatest loss from this. I mean, of all the things. What's the greatest loss? Oh, that's a fantasy five. Definitely

Can we do 10 things we've lost so far? Yeah, I don't know Or things we think we're going to lose Because we haven't officially lost buffets yet But we just assume they're going to be gone forever Is there a buffet in this town right now we can go to? If we want to get off there and three I wouldn't think so.

I don't think there is. But like salad bars Like Jason's deli makes it has a great salad bar That they do Taste of Texas has a wonderful salad bar I'll take your word for it Shama gaucha They're not bringing carved meats to our table.

I think they could. I feel comfortable with that. I mean, they have a great salad bar as well. They have a great. Yeah, they have a great salad bar. I mean, they're wearing gloves when they're cutting the meat. So the salad bar is going to be gonzo, but. The guys with the little Choroscaria dudes are going to be wearing masks.

They're going to put their little red bandanas instead around their neck. They'll be around their face. Maybe they are. Do they make surgical red bandanas for Chorosos? The end of this segment completely sucks and it's my fault because I'm just thinking, about how great Chinese buffets are. Well, the bear's got first and third and two out. Like, ponchos I haven't done since I was like 25 years old.

Oh man, the last, I used to, when I was like eight, I loved ponchos. Yeah, let me go. Like me and my brother would fight over who's going to raise the flag because we just thought it was so cool because we saw it on TV. Now, the all you can eat soap of pias was a jam, for sure. But yeah, as an adult, I went back. I don't know. Is a poncho is a Houston thing?

Oh, it's a Mexican buffet? I've never been able to a ponchos. Think of disgusting, flavorless enchiladas and tacos, but all you can eat. Okay. And you raise a flag to get more food. If you need more food, you raise, there's a little Mexican flag on the table and you run it up with a string. Old commercials used to say, raise the flag. Raise the flag.

So you see that. You're like eight years old. You see that. Mommy, I want to go raise a flag. Now, the key to ponchos was, just don't over order. Get tacos. Ground beef, taco shells, cheese. You can't go wrong with that.

Knock that out with like nine tacos followed by four to seven. So Pias, and you're fine. You're not going to get sick. Did you? You get rice, beans, enchil, lot is in a mix. Did you just say don't over-order at a buffet? Well, just plan it out. I am incapable of not over-ordering a buffet. All right. Tellman Fratina met with the press yesterday.

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Busting the waves since the stroves were in the dome. Who are you going to call? Wave Busters! Houston Sports Talk continues with the Matt Thomas show. Real fast because I think John Heyman just put out some baseball. As a matter of fact, we'll save the John Hammond news on Major League Baseball. Remember we were feeling so optimistic a little while ago? Yes.

I don't know if I feel as early as optimistic as an hour ago. Well, I guess we'll have to get the breaking news from you at the top of the hour, but... Yeah, stand by for that. Some breaking news, not necessarily breaking, but just some information out there. So far, NC leading Dousan...

Did you just give up a solo shot? Four nothing. You might have to pay that dollar up. I'm not checked the score. Christ. Because I want to kind of play along with y'all. I'll get three to one odds that they come back now. Oh, I was just about to curse that you. No.

I will just say no. Only on the internet only show. Sorry. Sorry. I'm very upset about... You almost dropped a swear word on a $1 bet. They had bases loaded in the bottom of the first and didn't get anything. That's KT. Wizz, in a nutshell. That's true. Sorry, they don't get bass. They're like four and seven. I'll make sure... I was about to check the stand guy.

Don't do it. It's going to see a score. All right. So, I know somebody that talked to the president yesterday. That's really weird. You do? Yeah, Tillman Fetito was part of a big restaurant council. Okay. And the question came up about the NBA. He says they're going to play some regular season games,

followed by the playoff shortly after that. And it comes down to Ross. The NBA wants those television dollars. The regional television networks in order to get full payment need 70 games broadcast, each team. Rocket 70, Maverick 70, Spurs 70. That's how you get full payment. So their thinking has to be, if we're going to come back, we don't want to just jump in the

playoffs. Let's jump into regular season so we can get that extra piece of the financial pie. Correct. So that's what the NBA is doing. And that's where the 50, 50, or whatever the revenue split is between the players and the owners does make a difference because all that money, if you don't get the payout from the regional TV networks, doesn't get to go towards future earnings and the future split between what the owners make and what the players make. So it feels like anybody that's trying to push the notion that there will be straight to playoffs is inaccurate. And for me, that makes sense because, again, I don't want them having played their last game on March 11th to all of a sudden July 5th or July 10th or July 15th playing a playoff game.

It feels like they need to get some games in. And again, it also helps, I think, build the return of basketball. and email in it on playoff markets, and it ultimately does pay the bills. You are fake news. I think it's, first of all, I just looked it up. It was 57% for the players before the lockout in 2011, and it went down to 50. So now it is 50-50 in basketball. Now it's 50-50 in basketball.

But anyways, yeah, it always seemed like any type of idea that was floated out without playoffs, just wasn't going to be possible because you've always been bringing up the 70-game thing. So I mean, I would have no, is this money already paid out by the networks or does there's a lump sum that comes later or however it works? My assumption was even if it's already paid out, they don't want to pay it back. You know what I mean? They don't want to rebate it. Exactly. It doesn't really matter the timing.

Yeah. It's just, it's got to be a huge sticking point with them. And it makes sense for me, it's almost like a preseason type of deal. And I understand if you're on the Charlotte Hornets or whatever that you don't want to come back for a few games. but also I'm sure tied into that is if you say, hey, we're out of it and we're the Knicks or whoever, we don't want to even bother playing these games. Well, then you're not going to bother getting paychecks. You're not going to bother getting these revenues.

And frankly, the Rockets again have played 64 games. So here, and this is so minutia to many people, but I'm just throwing it out there. The Rockets have been on the television 64 times this year. I mean, they've played 64 games. they would have to play six to get 70. Well, guess what? AT&T hasn't broadcast 70 games. There have been TNT exclusive.

There have been ABC games. And again, I'm just thinking out a lot of this. Does that mean you've got to get to say 74? Because, you know, the Lakers have been on national television, a boatload of times. Can you Golden State? I'd have to probably, I'd have to ask Tad Brown, because he's, you know, he's CEO of the Rockets, and he's on the board of governor. would have to ask them what they'd have to do to fulfill the 70 game threshold.

Yeah, exclusive. I mean, you should be kind of a little bit in the know on this, because especially for road games, that means you're not calling the game. And Craig is. That happened at least twice a year, right? Well, here's the games. We didn't work Christmas Day because it was Golden State. Craig and I worked on radio.

The Boston game was on ABC. Lakers game, T&T? Lakers TNT. That's three road games right there. And I'm not even counting the home games. Right, exactly. So how much wiggle room do you? Because you can't get to, it would basically have to take everybody to get to about 78 or 79 games.

But you can't be, I mean, as much as I'm pro-playing regular season games to get yourself ready to playoffs, you don't want to spend three weeks playing regular season games. You want to get maybe four or five in? Yeah. And maybe does Adam Silver go to the television partners and say, hey, look, we can't get everybody to 70. Now, if you're, say, the Cleveland Cavaliers who've only been on national television once, it's going to take you just two or three times to get to your 70 game threshold. What exactly gets triggered by 70 games?

Full payout, my guess. Full, so it's either all or nothing. I can't answer that. That's what I'm wondering. Yeah, I don't know to answer that. If you get 66 games instead of 70, can't you get 90% or whatever of your payment? It would seem to. You would think in theory yes to that, but then.

And at the same time, the guys are probably saying, we need games to get warmed up. We might as well put them on television so we can get the revenue. So maybe you're right. I'd have to ask a really business, but it just, the 70 game threshold has been talked about a lot. But the problem is you got a lot of your upper end teams, the Clippers been on national television a lot. The Boston Celtics, I mean, it would take a lot longer for them than say Charlotte to give their 70 game limit. But yeah. So he talked about that.

President Trump asked him about having players that make $25 million a year in his basketball team. He said, I have two that make 40. Actually, I got a couple that make 40, yeah. He's like $40 million. Believe me. Believe me. Think about it. Gordon, Westbrook, Hardin.

That's your Tunsel, DeShont, Future DeShan, and JJ Watt right there. We have some bad umbrae's here. and we're going to get them out. I don't think Tillman said that. Maybe the press said it, but he didn't say it. There's no Hispanic players on the Rockets is there? Yeah. The Rockets are good-Ombres, not bad on Brace.

Now that's what I call a nice question. Thanks, what are you guys? Let me ask you this seriously, Joe. When are you guys going to start freshen up the sound bites? You mean to tell me, this entire pandemic, we've had nothing fresh from the president of all. I love all those, though. I haven't been pulling them.

Yeah, there's, I'm, you know what? I'll pull some starting. three o'clock today. Yeah. I want to have 10 to 50... Thank you. I want 10 to 15 fresh Trump sound bites. 10 to 15?

That's not get crazy. You shouldn't treat people that way. It would take you a day and a half. No, it would take an hour and a half. All right, will you do it? I'm very busy. I'm going on something called Pass the Gravy podcast tonight. Oh, you are?

Yes, I am. With Alex Middleton. I've never been invited. Your timing is horrible back there. We're sitting here jabbering where you just throw off sound bites. It's hard because there's two of us. Okay. Fact.

Place up now. We'll stay out of the way. story. Wow. Do the Evang after story after story is bad. You got to do the Ivanka one. The Ivanka one? Poor kid back there.

I don't know what's going on. He's already checked out of this show. He's on his way to the A-Tree. We've lost him. Thank you, Joe, George, for your work on the first two hours of the Matt Thomas show. Let's get to the final hour with news from John Heyman, who, by the way, thank you, John Heyman, for being able to use the caps lock key when appropriate and when not appropriate. and when not appropriate.

Because for a long time, he wasn't using it at all. You really hated him for that, too. I don't think he's a great person to begin with, but I really hated him back then. Final hour, the Matt Tobb show starts in a manner of moments. If you'd like to join us, 713-212-5-790, 7-1-3-2-1-2-5-7-90. With a message here for oops, steam cleaning. For carpets that look and smell great and are fresh, despite the fact that you may spill some things, get them clean properly with the folks at Oop's steam clean.

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Man, I want to go outside. I don't care how it is. Get some vitamin D. I'm a little vitamin D deficient. Okay. I don't know why I brought that up. No, it's just easy to make various puns and childish jokes when you say... Well, we don't get some vitamin D.

We're adult commentary. Yeah, I would never say, give your wife some vitamin D. Okay, good. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90 if you'd like to join us. On Twitter at Joe George Radio, though he's checked out, at Sports RV and at Sports Empty. He's planning the seventh segment of the show now.

He's working of the A-Team. He's working through it. He's already planning for like next Thursday's 18. He's all like a week and days in advance. All right. Here we go. A couple of baseball news. First and foremost.

Let's give you, Alex Bregman has left his agency. What? Clutch Brody Schofield. Schofield, his longtime agent recently joined forces with Clutch. Breggman is shopping for a new agent. The fees for Breggman's $100 million deal will be split 50-50 by Schofield and GSE as an arbitrator recently ruled. So whoever is getting the deal, whoever's going to be his new agent, is going to get nothing of what he's making right now. I would just think probably future endorsement deals.

That doesn't really matter to people. Boy, Bramond really has done a magnificent job of, and he just kind of rebranded himself during this time. This food bank stuff he's been doing has been beyond powerful. I mean, raising what, $2 million for this? I mean, he's been socially active. He got his Twitter accounts suspended and got it back. Yeah, how do we know the story or the details of what happened with his Twitter account

going away? And his Lance McCullors has went away as well. No, I think they all got hacked. I think Twitter is really, really, because I'll see my Twitter account, like, drop by like 10, and then I get five back real quick. I think Twitter just is really uber sensitive these days for some reason. Yeah, well, my email, my followership has been dropping. Well, I'm firmly convinced we will never go to Vegas until we get sports back.

Then I got a puncher's chance. Yeah. but don't you agree that Breggman's just been I mean very personal from a guy that less frankly took a pretty big PR hit by that announcement during the early part of spring training about the Astro Science Dealing you know how that came across it was very rehearsed it didn't look unnaturale it didn't look particularly sincere

he's been everything but that since that moment yeah yes including immediately after in the clubhouse but that was it was a bad look they could have handled that better Jim Crane could have handled it better Al Tuvae could have handled it better I think that went a long way as far as rubbing people the wrong way when it comes to the

Astros and what they did do in 2017 so again I don't think anybody particularly cares of the agent is he's got his big contract he's taken care of but the new guy is probably going to look Alex could have at least one more big contract at the very very least before his major league career is done next

major league baseball has been espousing, that's another big word I never thought I would use on the show, a 50-50 revenue split behind the scenes, but no formal proposal has been made to players yet. In any case, players do seem very much resolved not to agree to a revenue-sharing proposal on principle. They view that as a form of a salary cap and a bad precedent. So Rossi, again, this reading this here, just assuming some things in motion, that they don't even want a 53-47 or a 52-48, they believe once you go to revenue sharing, that puts caps on player salaries. And they're right about that.

They love the fact that they're the only professional sports league among the big three that doesn't have a salary cap. Yes. And the teams that can go as much as they want to, but there's going to be a luxury tax attached to it. And it is borne out over the years that, I mean, NFL, the players don't even get 50, right? The players are under 50 or close or something like that? They added, maybe they got to 50 when they added the 17th game. Anyways, they're close. It's like 49.1 or something goofy number.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, so the MLB Players Association has been in the right in that NBA is 50-50. You have the NFL 50-50 or very close to it. And according to the Forbes article I found, they've been well over 50, comfortably over 50, basically in the last 10 years. Okay, remember we talked about an hour how we signed it encouraged? Yes. here's today's discouraging major league baseball update. We just said we were encouraged because nothing got leaked and now something has leaked.

That's exactly right. You hear that, friends? When things get leaked out, it's never particularly good. Coaches in trouble. Player wants to be traded. Team is in, you know, thinking about making massive moves. Here is what he said. You tell me if you have the same sort of uh-oh moment that I just had when I read it.

MLB in recent talks gave the union two options. one, negotiate a new financial agreement, something other than prorated pay for players playing games with no fan in attendance, meaning that when they originally discussed this, they said, and the players were to believe, if you play 82 games, you'll get your yearly salary prorated over 82, so essentially half.

Major League Baseball owners cannot do this. that's option number one is that that option is gone. They agreed to it, though. Well, the owners are saying they agreed to that not knowing that fans may not have come back, which makes me partially think, what the hell are you thinking owners? Did you think that everything was going to just return to status quo? That's pretty not the brightest way to think of things from the owner's perspective that they would have thought, oh, we're just going to play baseball games again and have 45,000 people.

Yeah, I imagine that's not, wouldn't sit well with the players to say, hey, they made this agreement when? And March? Say, hey, we just made this agreement. And now you're backing out of it. That can't sit well with the players you need at all. So here's the second part of it, which I'm a little confused by. I think I know what it means, but I want to make sure that I'm double checking with you guys.

Wait until the coronavirus is clear to the point where fans can attend games. That doesn't sound like to me he's saying partial attendance. I think he is saying full ticket entry, we can fill up Minute Made, we can fill up the new ballpark in Arlington, we can fill up Dodgers Stadium. Because even if we get baseball back July 4th, there's no way there's going to be more than thousands, right, in a baseball stadium. 10, 15, very, very much. If that, if that. That's not going to make up the revenue. No.

So that's how I'm reading it as you want to play this way. You can't, we can't make any money. We can't prorate your salary if we're not getting money coming in. Either you take the revenue share as we're hoping for, or we'll just wait and delay baseball until we can get 37,000 people at Wrigley Field in Chicago. Is this becoming the mess we were hoping it wouldn't? how dare us think that just an hour ago everything was hunky dory. Now, Haman's a blank starter. He is.

Yeah. He's not, he doesn't bathe, like you say batting average. You didn't bat a thousand. He doesn't, which hopes he's more in the 750 range. He was the dope that when Ross and I were down in spring training saying there were a lot of long faces in the Astros Clubhouse. A lot of guys are unhappy. You know what fraud? What you did is you went in the clubhouse. You looked around for two seconds. You turned around and left. I saw it first hand. He looked like he was working on his tan, though. Well, it's because he was afraid to talk to the players.

He was busy in the son because he was not in the clubhouse talking to those guys. A little notepad in his hand with nothing on it. With nothing on it. Even though he is a dope when it comes to that, he is tied in with obviously enough people. He's been covered majorly baseball forever. So there's going to be some people that are going to give him some information. Now I'm sad. I went from Sunshiney Bright Day can't wait for

July 4 doubleheader to is this the first sign of Major League Baseball owners drawing a line in the sand and saying you've got to revenue share with us

this year or we're going to shut the sport down until I can get full crowds in Major League baseball stadiums. It seems a little

this is not a step in I could be reading this too much into this? I think you're right. I think this might get ugly. And it totally makes sense. Because I understand both sides. And that's the thing.

These labor negotiations are normally going to take months, if not more. And now they're just, they're going to have to try and fast track this as quickly as possible. Some kind of compromise is going to have to be made.

What is today? May 8th, 19th. How long do they need to get ready for a season? Three weeks, guys. Pitcher's probably longer? I think three weeks is the minimum. They wanted to do spring training by June 10th for a July 1st start. So yeah, that would be, that would be, 10th to the first is exactly three weeks.

So guys, you're talking about two weeks of intense negotiations coming up. Because you still got to get 10 days of logistics put into play. Getting players when they need to get, finalizing the protocol. Because look, that 67 page thing was interesting, but it needs to be put into action. And you've got to get 30 baseball parks up to speed on this. I guarantee you Minutemate Park tomorrow isn't ready for a workout. It might take a week from them to be ready for a workout. Because you've got to close off thousands and thousands of sections in areas.

And you have to have proper, you know, you've got to have medicine check. You've got to have temperature checks. You've got to people in the right spot. They've got till June 1st to get it ready. So two weeks Of staring at Twitter To hopefully get better news And we just got five minutes ago

And you turn on notifications for Ken Rosenthal Would you do me a fair? During the break Check Ken Rosenthal See if he's not giving us doom and gloom like this is He's reported nothing He hasn't said anything in the afternoon Okay so John Heyman remember we only bat in 750 I think it's a lot lower thing

Okay if he's 625 I'm not a Heyman guy I'm like a 200 You would have loved seeing Hayman in spring training He literally walked in, stood around, didn't go up to a player because he was scared to death him and turned right back around. I told Ross, I said, look at him. And he's going to write something about Astro's Clubhouse seems disorganized or disinterest. And bam, right on the dime.

Said it exactly what I thought was going to happen. You're right. They seem sad. What do you say? They're not happy. Astro's Clubhouse, not happy. Very sad. You're walking around like droopy dog.

we're embarrassed what we did. And then Brian McTaggart tweeting a picture of a smiling Carlos Correy the next day saying he seems happy. Oh, so good. So good. 713-212-5-790 if you'd like to join us here today on the program. 7-13-212-5-7-90 on Twitter at SportsMT at Joe George Radio at SportsRV

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Thank you all for listening. So we had the guy on. We'll go back to phones just one second. We got Ben and Conrad once to join us. We had the pizza guy on earlier. Did you ever think you'd say that? No. I'm kind of out on it.

I was going to ask you, you don't believe him? I just don't. I don't know if there's any way we can really verify it. Well, first of all, he can't verify if the ingredients were good. He thinks they're good. Yeah. I mean, no one's saying that like he, like. He just wanted to kibosh the poison thing because there was a little bit of, there was an insinuation of a poison angle.

Yeah. I think they give him shrooms. But the problem with everything is the story, as Michael told, because it was Michael, it was a Michael Mentory. Definitely. There were five dudes handing off a pizza and Tim Grover, his strength coach is like, that seems kind of weird. They also could have been like security from the hotel that weren't with those guys, but they were in the area. They could just have been people Michael didn't know that were even with the team. And Michael, and to what Craig said, his back was to him.

So how many, how did he, well, actually, Michael never said it. It was Tim Grover that said it were five guys. I think Grover lived here for a year or so when Scotty was playing here. I want to remember, I think Tim Grover was hanging around the Rockets for a while. The guy for, I don't know if he still is considered as a big shot in the strength business that he was back then, but for a long time. His Twitter bio says MJ, Kobe and D. Wade. So he's pretty good company there. It's funny.

Tim Grover doesn't say Ross, Matt, Joe. Vincent Askew. That's a good pull. Pete, chill cut. Jean Tabach. He didn't say he worked with any of the other. those guys. We can do a fantasy five of goofy ass rockets.

Ooh, favorite non-all-star Rockets. Well, the problem with that is... As in they never made an All-Star Team. Never, or never as a rocket. Never. Did Mario Ellie ever make an All-Star Team? No. Otis Thorpe made one. I would flip it. I'd go to them a little more extreme. Best

Rocket lineup, Best Scrubs rocket lineup. Like, if you put together an ultimate scrub five. Yeah. I think we could do it. Mario Ellie was 1987 Irish League player of the year.

I'm looking at the same thing. Yeah. I'm looking at that. That's crazy. Are you on for... Mario Ellie. He's a fine Irish college?

Irish National Cup champion. American International. That was a mouthful for me to say. He won the Irish National Cup in 1987. Well, it's like PJ Tucker's played a lot of well-receivable. troops too.

Yeah, I know. I've heard of guys playing Russia, Turkey, Greece, everywhere. I've never heard of the Irish. It's like 40% of the league of redheads. As Brian Scalabrini could go, he'd go there and dominate right now? Hey. Oh, Brian Scalabrini. That's my guy.

That's Cameron's guy. A little white mama. I had Brian Scalabrini sent a video to Cameron, and he dropped like two F-bombs in it. And Cam was like, this is my. You got cameo for free from Brian Scalabrini. Yeah. I got a free cameo out of that. Thanks, Brian.

That's what we call him, Brian. Brian Scalabrini would be the most legendary player in the history of the Irish. Okay, let's do this. Can we do this without being mean to these people? What are the team names, like the Dublin Shalales? This is a great believer in or not. We can't even get to. But can we do a fantasy five of favorite scrubs?

I want to talk more about the Irish basketball league. No, yeah. I think nuts. What do you say, you want to do like scrub scrubs? Like Kyle Wilcher. You got to define a scrub first. Yeah, that's the thing is we have to define. Yeah.

How about this? Average is less than five points a game in a season. How about less than 15 minutes a game a season or something like that? Or five points. Yeah, like you could do a couple different. You could do like 15 points or 15 minutes, five points. What if one season he does one season he does five and one season he does 10? Yeah.

See, the problem is all these guys are all scrubs. We're all going to love them. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to, like when people choose our list, they go, well, I like that much better. It's hard to say. It is, yeah. Kyle Wilcher versus Chris Gent. You know what I mean?

It's difficult to peak the judge's interest. I think the not all-star route might be the way to go. But same thing there again is we're all going to love them. We love Mario Ellie. Yeah, but who do you love more? We love Jim Peterson. Who do you love more? Mary Shelley or Chuckie Hayes.

I like Jim too, but it's a voice of another team, right? Yeah, that's true. All right, let's let this percolate a little bit. Let me say how to Ben and Conroe on the Matt Thomas show. Ben, good afternoon. Hey, how's it going? Good. So, for the, I wanted to talk about baseball, but I got Steve Novak on my all-time.

Oh, good. Good pull, my friend. Very good pull. And, no, I was just wondering on the, so if this is true, which is him and batting $750, I'm bad in like $300 and now they've got to have a Twitter. but if the collective bargaining agreement is still valid right now, how with the owners, if they go away from the 50 or if they go away from the pro-rated salary, wouldn't they just basically be saying that we're going to have to pay you all of your money for this season?

I mean, they don't, they can't just go totally against the CBA. Here's what they're going to do. And Ross, help me out this because this is very complicated. If they go to a revenue share, they would then, take the salary of which they're making now. Oh, God, yes. So they would pool all the player projected payroll, the regular payroll. Every dollar that goes in the big pool.

Just to keep it simple, let's say the Astros payroll is $200 million and Justin Verlainter is making $30. That's 15%. Right? So he would make 15% of the Astros payroll, which is a percentage of the entire total payroll. That's the way I think they would do that. Does that make sense to you? I kind of get how that works, but it came out initially that they had to come into agreement of the pro-rated salary.

The pro-rated salary was the original agreement. Major League Baseball owners are claiming we based that decision on the notion that we were delaying the baseball season and that when baseball resumed, it would be with fans in the stands. They are saying now, they being the group, that we did not anticipate that we could make money, we could cover costs and expenses with games being played in an empty stadiums. And baseball is saying, the players are saying, too bad so sad, your fault for us, and we never would have agreed to that to begin with. We agreed to a prorated salary based on the number of games being played.

We did not agree to a potential cut of our salary. Right. My question was, if the owners were going to throw that agreement out, wouldn't they be back to paying 100% of all the guaranteed, money and then they would have to work something else out. How can they, like, I guess my question is how can they go against the CBA and just say, we're not going to do the pro-rated thing that we all agree to, but we're also not going to pay you your salary either.

We're just going to do whatever we want to do or we're not playing baseball. But I didn't think that was an option until the end of a CBA. That I can't answer. They can shut the season off and not pay anybody. That's called a lockout. Yeah. They can do that, but they can. No, yeah, again, that's a combo.

Thank you for the call. It's going to be a lawyer. A lot of lawyers involved in this. So let's, okay, let's make this as simple as we can. Let's dumb it down to a low number, $100,000. Oh, man, this is going to be, this is way over my pay grade on this. Basically, again, Justin Verlander makes $35 million a year. What percentage of that is every bit of dollars that is brought in in baseball?

Of the entire, of the entire payroll. entire payroll. They would take that equation. Yes. And they would put it into 2020 speak. Meaning, well, if Verlanner makes 1% of Major League Baseball's revenues, then in 2020s baseball revenues, whatever that number is, will give Justin Verlander 1% of that. I think that's the way they would have to do it.

There's no other way. That's right. Because in theory, it doesn't mean it's a cap because let's say, for some reason, revenues were beyond that. In theory, the players could make more money. It's still a cap. It's a cap of the percentage. That's right, a cap of percentage. But that percentage could be ridiculously high. Nobody believes that.

Because there's no fans. There's no concessions. There's no parking. Probably in-house marketing. It's dropped. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they're obviously making less and less money. They'll make a significant amount of less money. Their television contracts will come through, and they'll share on that. But, yeah, they just baseball believes they don't believe in sharing. The players don't want to share because they don't want to settle. Is the Matt Thomas Show.

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He's planning the seventh segment of the show now. He's working of the A-Team. He's working through it. He's already planning for like next Thursdays A-Team. He's all like a week and days in advance. All right. Here we go. A couple of baseball news.

First and foremost, let's give you, Alex Bregman has left his agency. What? Clutch Brody Schofield. Schofield, his longtime agent recently joined forces with Clutch. Bregman is shopping for a new agent. The fees for Bregman's $100 million deal will be split 50-50 by Schofield and GSE as an arbitrator recently ruled. So whoever is getting the deal, whoever's going to be his new agent, is going to get nothing of what he's making right now. I would just think probably future endorsement deals.

That doesn't really matter to people. Boy, Bramon really has done a magnificent job of, and he just kind of rebranded himself during this time. This food bank stuff he's been doing has been beyond powerful. I mean, raising what, $2 million for this? I mean, he's been socially active. He got his Twitter account suspended and got it back. Yeah, how did you get, do we know the story or the details of what happened with his Twitter account going away? And his Lance McCullors has went away as well.

No, I think they all got hacked. I think Twitter is really, really, because I'll see my Twitter account like drop by like 10 and then I get five back real quick. I think Twitter just is really uber sensitive these days for some reason. Yeah, well, my email. My followership has been dropping. Well, I'm firmly convinced we will never go to Vegas until we get sports back.

Then I got a puncher's chance. Yeah. But don't you agree that Breggman's just been, I mean, very personal. From a guy, that less frankly took a pretty big PR hit by that announcement during the early part of spring training about the Astero Science Dealing.

You know how that came? across. It was very rehearsed. It didn't look enatural. It didn't look particularly sincere. He's been everything but that since that moment. Yeah. Yeah, it's including immediately after in the clubhouse. But that was, it was a bad look. They could have handled that better. Jim Crane could have handled it better. Altuve could have handled it better. I think that went a long way as far as

rubbing people the wrong way when it comes to the Astros and what they did do in 2017. So, again, I don't think anybody particularly cares of the agent is. He's got his big contract he's taken care of. But the new guy is probably going to... Look, Alex could have at least one more big contract at the very, very least, before his Major League career is done. Next, Major League Baseball has been espousing...

That's another big word I never thought I would use in the show. A 50-50 revenue split behind the scenes, but no formal proposal has been made to players yet. In any case, players do seem very much resolved not to agree to a revenue sharing proposal on principle. They view that as a form of a salary cap and a bad precedent. So Rossi, again, this reading this here, just assuming some things in motion, that they don't even want a 5347 or a 5248.

They believe once you go to revenue sharing, that puts caps on player salaries. And they're right about that. They love the fact that they're the only professional sports league among the big three that doesn't have a salary cap. Yes. And the teams that can go as much as they want to, but there's going to be a luxury tax attached to it. And it is borne out over the years that, I mean,

NFL, the players don't even get 50, right? The players are under 50 or are close or something like that? They added, maybe they got to 50 when they added the 17th game. Anyways, they're close. It's like 49.1 or something goofy number like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, so the MLB Players Association has been in the right in that NBA 50-50, you have the NFL 50-50 or very close to it.

And according to the Forbes article I found, they've been well over 50, comfortably over 50, basically in the last 10 years. Okay, remember we talked about an hour how we signed it encouraged? Yes. Here's today's discouraging major league baseball update. We just said we were encouraged because nothing can leaked and now something has leaked. That's exactly right. You hear that, friends? When things get leaked out, it's never particularly good.

Coaches in trouble. Player wants to be traded. team is in thinking about making massive moves. Here is what he said. You tell me if you have the same sort of uh-oh moment that I just had when I read it. MLB in recent talks gave the union two options. One, negotiate a new financial agreement, something other than prorated pay for players playing games with no fans in attendance.

Meaning that when they originally discussed this, they said, and the players were to believe if you play 82 games you'll get your yearly salary prorated over 82. So essentially half. Major League Baseball owners

cannot do this. That's option number one is that that option is gone. They agreed to it though. Well, the owners are saying they agreed to that not knowing that fans may not have come back, which makes me partially think, what the hell are you thinking owners?

Did you think that everything was going to just return to status? quo. That's not the brightest way to think of things from the owner's perspective that they would have thought, oh, we're just going to play baseball games again and have 45,000 people. Yeah, I imagine that's not, wouldn't sit well with the players to say, hey, they made this agreement when in March? Say, hey, we just made this agreement. And now you're backing out of it, that can't sit well with the players you need at all. So here's the second part of it, which I'm a little confused by. I think I know what it means, but I want to make sure that I'm double checking with you guys.

wait until the coronavirus is clear to the point where fans can attend games. That doesn't sound like to me he's saying partial attendance. I think he is saying full ticket entry. We can fill up Minute Maid. We can fill up the new ballpark in Arlington. We can fill up Dodgers Stadium. Because even if we get baseball back July 4th, there's no way there's going to be more than thousands.

right in a baseball stadium. 10, 15, very, very much. If that, if that. That's not going to make up the revenue. No. So that's how I'm reading it as. You want to play this way. You can't, we can't make any money.

We can't prorate your salary if we're not getting money coming in. Either you take the revenue share as we're hoping for, or we'll just wait and delay baseball. ball until we can get 37,000 people at Wrigleyfield in Chicago. Is this becoming the mess we were hoping it wouldn't? How dare us think that just an hour ago, everything was hunky-dory. Now, Heyman's a blank starter. He is.

Yeah, he's not, he doesn't bat, like you say batting average, you didn't bat a thousand. He doesn't, which hopes he's more in the 750 range. he was the dope that when Ross and I were down in spring training saying there were a lot of long faces in the Astros Clubhouse, a lot of guys are unhappy. You know what fraud? What you did is you went in the clubhouse, you looked around for two seconds, you'd turn around and left. I saw it firsthand. He looked like he was working on his tan, though. Well, it's because he was afraid to talk to the players. He was busy in the son because he was not in the clubhouse talking to those again. The old notepad in his hand with nothing on it. With nothing on it.

even though he is a dope when it comes to that, he is tied in with obviously enough people. He's been covering Major League Baseball forever, so there's going to be some people that are going to give him some information. Now I'm sad. I went from Sunshiney Bright Day,

can't wait for July 4th, doubleheader to is this the first sign of Major League Baseball owners drawing a line in the sand and saying you've got to revenue share with us this year or we're going to shut the sport down until I can get full crowds in Major League Baseball Stadiums. It seems a little... Now, Ross, I could be reading this too much into this.

I think you're right. I think this might get ugly. And it totally makes sense. Because I understand both sides. And that's the thing. These labor negotiations are normally going to take months, if not more. And now they're going to have to try and fast-track this as quickly as possible. Some kind of compromise is going to have to be made.

What is today? May 8th, 19th. How long do they need to get ready for a season? Three weeks, guys. Pitcher's probably longer? I think three weeks is the minimum. They wanted to do spring training by June 10th. For a July 1st start.

So yeah, that would be, that would be, 10th to the first is exactly three weeks. So guys, you're talking about two weeks of intense negotiations coming up. Because you've still got to get 10 days of logistics put into play. getting players what they need to get, finalizing the protocol. Because look, that 67-page thing was interesting, but it needs to be put into action. And you've got to get 30 baseball parks up to speed on this.

I guarantee you Minutemate Park tomorrow isn't ready for a workout. It might take a week from them to be ready for a workout. Because you've got to close off thousands and thousands of sections and areas. and you have to have proper, you know, you've got to have medicine check, you've got to have temperature checks, you've got to people in the right spot. They've got till June 1st to get it ready. So two weeks of staring at Twitter to hopefully get better news and we just got five minutes ago.

And you turn on notifications for Ken Rosenthal. Would you do me a fair during the break? Check Ken Rosenthal. See if he's not giving his doom and gloom like this is. He's reported nothing. He hasn't said anything in the gas now. Okay, so John Heyman, we're only bat in 750. I think it's a lot lower. Okay, if he's 625.

I'm not a Heyman guy. I'm like a 200. You would have loved seeing Heyman in spring training. He literally walked in, stood around, didn't go up to a player because he was scared to death him and turn right back around. I told Ross, I said, look at him. And he's going to write something about Astros' Clubhouse seems disorganized or disinterest. And bam, right on the dime. Said it exactly what I thought was going to happen.

You're right. They seem sad. What do you say? They're not happy. They were not happy. Astros Clubhouse. Not happy. Very sad.

You're walking around like droopy dog. Oh, we're embarrassed what we did. And then Brian McTaggart tweeting a picture of a smiling Carlos Correy the next day saying he seems happy. Oh, so good. So awesome. So good. 713-212-5-79. If you'd like to join us here today on the program.

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220 on Sports Talk 790. The Matt Thomas show takes you today until 3 o'clock. Thank you all for listening. So we had the guy on, and we'll go back to phones just one second. We got Ben and Conrad once to join us. We had the pizza guy on earlier. Did you? Did you ever think you'd say that?

No! I'm kind of out on it. You spent a sec? I was going to ask you, do you, you don't believe him? I just don't, I don't know if there's any way we can really verify it. Well, first of all, he can't verify if the ingredients were good. He thinks they're good. Yeah.

I mean, no one's saying that like he, like... He just wanted to kibosh the poison thing because there was a little bit of, there was an insinuation of a poison angle. Yeah. I think they give him shrooms But the problem with everything is The story as Michael told Because it was Michael, it was a Michael Mentory

Definitely Is there were five dudes Hading off a pizza And Tim Grover, his strength coach is like That seems kind of weird I mean They also could have been like security from the hotel That's right

That weren't with those guys But they were in the area They could just been people Michael didn't know That were even with the team And Michael, and to what Craig said, his back was to him. So how many, how did he, well, he actually, Michael never said it. It was Tim Grover that's five guys.

I think Grover lived here for a year or so when Scottie was playing here. I want to remember, I think Tim Grover was hanging around the Rockets for a while. The guy for, I don't know if he still is considered as a big shot in the strength business that he was back then. But for a long time, I mean, his Twitter bio says MJ, Kobe and D. Wade. so he's pretty good company there it's funny Tim Grover doesn't say Ross Matt and Joe Vincent Askew

That's a good pull Pete Chilcutt John Tabock Didn't say he worked with any of those guys We can do a fantasy five of goofy ass rockets Oh Favorite non-all-Star Rockets Well the problem with that is

As in they never made an all-star team never or never as a rocket never did mario ellie ever make an all start no odis thornton i would i would flip it i'd go even a little more extreme best rocket lineup best scrubs rocket lineup like if you put together an ultimate scrub five yeah i think we could do it Mario ellie was nineteen eighty seven irish league player of the year

I'm looking at the same thing. Yeah. I'm looking at that. That's crazy. Oh, Mario Ellie. He's a fine Irish college. Irish National Cup champion. American International.

That was a mouthful for me to say. He won the Irish National Cup in 1987. Well, it's like PJ Tucker's played a lot of World Received Shoops, too. Yeah, I know. I've heard of guys playing Russia, Turkey, Greece, everywhere. I've never heard of the Irish. It's like 40%. of the league redheads?

Is Brian Scalabrini could go? He could go there and dominate right now? Hey. Oh, Brian Scalabrini. That's my guy. That's Cameron's guy. A little white Mamba. I had Brian Scalabrini sent a video to Cameron, and he dropped like two F-bombs in it.

And Cam's like, this is my hero. You got a cameo for free from Brian Scalabrini. Yeah. I got a free cameo out of that. Thanks, Brian. That's what we call him, Brian. Brian Scalabrini would be the most legendary player in the history of the Irish. Can we do this without being mean to these people?

What are the team names? Like the Dublin Shalales? It's a great, believe it or not, we can't even get to. But can we do a Fantasy 5 of favorite scrubs? I want to talk more about the Irish Basketball League. No, yeah, I think nuts. What do you say, you want to do like scrub scrubs? Like Kyle Wilcher.

You got to define a scrub first. Yeah, that's the thing is we have to define. Yeah. How about this? average is less than five points a game in a season. How about less than 15 minutes a game a season or something like that?

Or five points. Yeah, like you could do a couple different. You could do like 15 points or 15 minutes, five points. One season he does five and one season he does 10. See, the problem is all these guys are all scrubs. We're all going to love them. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to, like, when people choose our list,

they go, well, I like that much better. It's hard to say. It is, yeah. Kyle Wilcher versus Chris Gent. You know what I mean? It's difficult to peak the judge. interest. I think the not all-star route might be the way to go. But the same thing there again is we're all going to love them. We love Mario Ellie. Yeah, but who do you love more? We love

Jim Peterson. Who do you love more? Mary Ellie or Chuckie Hayes. I like Jim too, but it's a voice of another team, right? Yeah, that's true. All right, let's let this percolate a little bit. Let me say how to Ben and Conroe on the Matt Thomas show. Ben, good afternoon. Hey, how's it going? Good. So for the, I wanted to talk about baseball, but I got Steve Novak on my all-time. Oh, good. Good pull, my friend. Very good pull. And, no, I was just wondering on the, so if this is true, which is him and batting

$750, I'm bad in like $300 and now they've even have a Twitter. But if it's just a collective bargaining agreement is still valid right now, how with the owners, If they go away from the 50th or if they go away from the pro-rated salary, wouldn't they just basically be saying that we're going to have to pay you all of your money for this season? I mean, they can't just go totally against the CBA. Here's what they're going to do. And Ross help me out this because this is very complicated. If they go to a revenue share, they would then take the salary of which they're making now.

Oh, God, yes. So they would pool all the player projected payroll, the regular payroll. Every dollar that goes in the big pool. Just to keep it simple, let's say the Astros payroll is $200 million, and Justin Verlainter is making $30, that's 15%. Right? So he would make 15% of the Astros payroll, which is a percentage of the entire total payroll.

That's the way I think they would do that. Does that make sense to you? I kind of get how that works, but it came out initially that they had to come into agreement of the pro-rated salary. The prorated salary was the original agreement. Major League Baseball owners are claiming we based that decision on the notion that we were delaying the baseball season and that when baseball resumed, it would be with fans in the stands.

They are saying now they being the group that we did not anticipate and that we could make money, we could cover costs and expenses with games being played in empty stadiums. And baseball is saying, the players are saying, too bad so sad, your fault for us, and we never would have agreed to that to begin with. We agreed to a prorated salary based on the number of games being played. We did not agree to a potential cut of our salary. My question was, if the owners were going to throw that agreement out, wouldn't they be back to paying 100% of all the guaranteed money, and then they would have to work something else out? How can they, like, I guess my question is, how can they go against

the CBA and just say, we're not going to do the prorated thing that you've got to have to work. that we all agree to, but we're also not going to pay you your salary either. We're just going to do whatever we want to do or we're not playing baseball. But I didn't think that was an option until the end of a CBA. That I can't answer. They can shut the season off and not pay anybody. That's called a lockout. Yeah.

They can do that. But they can, no, yeah, again, that's a combo. Thank you for the call. There's going to be a lawyer. A lot of lawyers involved in this. So let's, okay, let's make this as simple as we can. Let's dumb it down to a low number. hundred thousand dollars.

Oh man, this is going to be, this is way over my pay grade on this. Basically again, Justin Verlander makes $35 million a year. What percentage of that is every bit of dollars that is brought in in baseball? Of the entire, of the entire payroll. They would take that equation. Yes. And they would put it into 2020 speak, meaning, well, if Verlanner makes 1% of Major League Baseball's revenues

than in 2020's baseball revenues, whatever that number is, we'll give Justin Verlander 1% of that. I think that's the way they would have to do it. There's no other way. That's right. Because in theory,

it doesn't mean it's a cap because let's say for some reason revenues were beyond that. In theory, the players could make more money. It's still a cap. It's a cap of the percentage. That's right. A cap of percentage. but that percentage could be ridiculously high.

Nobody believes that. Because there's no fans, there's no concessions, there's no parking, probably in-house marketing, it's dropped. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they're obviously making less and less money. They'll make a significant amount of less money. Their television contracts will come through, and they'll share on that. But yeah, they just, baseball believes they don't believe in sharing. The players don't want to share.

because they don't want a salary cap like they see they have a salary cap in the NFL who does a revenue share and an NBA who does a revenue share. And that's how the salary cap is determined based off that revenue split. It's really simple. So forgetting about the semantics of who makes what, majorly baseball, the union is saying we don't want what baseball, what basketball and football have. We've thrived. We've done well. We're making big money. We see you're making a lot of money.

and the one time in your life that you're not printing money, you've come for us for revenue split. We don't play by that. I get both sides, and that's probably going to make this. You don't get both sides, but you also understand that a large amount of America is going to say, suck it up, Bucco, for one year, or you're not going to play baseball.

But the problem is, do the baseball players believe this would be just for one season? They're afraid it would not be in that. So then baseball would. would say, look how healthy we are. We did this for one year. Then they would do it again. Baseball would then say, no, we don't want to do revenue split. And then they would go into lockout and it would be a big mess.

I mean, there's just, there's just a spiral. It could potentially go out of control. I'm just telling you, Ross, it's going to be hard for America to feel sorry for the players when they're still going to get paid a large sum of money this year for half the games while 20 and then probably at some point 25 to 30% of America is going to be unemployed. It will be no matter what justification. labor associations have, what justifications employers have, employees, I should say, it's just not going to work well.

Baseball is going to turn on them. And you need to win the court of public opinion because you need fans back in the stands whenever everything resumes back as normal. You need their support. You just do. You just do. 232. Matt Thomas show continues.

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The NFL will officially amend the Rooney Rule to require more interviews of minority candidates for head coaching and coordinated positions. A source told ESPN conforming an NFL network report. and they're also I thought I'm trying to find the whole changes but there was I think they're going to require two minorities to be interviewed rather than just the one that

it happens right now but as soon as I find it I will let you know yes and also there is a resolution that prevents teams from blocking assistant coaches from interviewing for coordinator positions for sources. So they should be able to

Because let me say you something I think all of us have gotten jobs Before we've had current jobs And somebody comes after us And you know you still can do your job Now are you excited that somebody else wants you? Of course But I think you can also be responsible enough

To focus on what you're currently doing Like okay I keep using Eric Bainami as an example But he was one of the most recognizable coordinators looking for jobs this season Could Eric Bianemy and Pat Mahom get ready for to play the Texans in a divisional playoff game on a Monday and a Wednesday and a Thursday and a Friday. Well, guess what? Monday night, he can jump on a plane and he can go interview for the Carolina job. I mean, I'll be honest with you.

I think the Matt Rule hiring Carolina has really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I have been a Matt Rule guy since day one because I saw him coaching at Temple and took a program that no one cared about and made it semi-relevant. then he takes the job of Baylor after the entire mess that was there and they and he flipped that bad boy around in three years. Yeah, if you can win at Temple and Baylor. I mean, that's a great. And see, if you're Matt Ruhl, Ross, you're going, wait a minute, look what I've done. And oh, by the way, I do have NFL experience. I work with the Giants.

I damn well deserve this opportunity. Because if you can turn around those train racks, I mean, you got to realize, remember Temple was so bad. They got kicked out of the Big East. They were that bad. This is going back, what, 15, 20 years ago? So bad in football. They said, we're going to drop you, and you're going to go play in the Mac. That's how bad Temple football was.

He goes there shortly after they get back and they join the American, and they're very respectable. Baylor, you had the Bryl's, I mean, complete mess. And they're playing for the Big 12 championship. Guys got great coaching pedigree. But the problem was, is that how much did Carolina really invest in going after minority candidate. I think the big one with that would be Cliff Kingsbury. Another one.

That's a huge one. Guy was nothing more than a very mediocre college football coach. In fact, when you get fired from a job that you thought you might have for the rest of your life, that meant something. And he was there for like six, seven years. And it was. Would win what? Maybe six, seven games tops every year? They were never legitimately in the Big 12 competition.

He won eight games his first season. He was there six. six years, 35 and 40 overall. 35 and 40 doesn't usually lend you to getting a job in the NFL. Correct. But man, so as you try to present both sides of everything on this, if you're an owner and you love what Cliff Kingsbury did as an offensive mind, and you're going to get the first pick in the draft,

and you get to pick the number one skill position player if you so choose. If you're an owner of a team, you've got a guy, how is anybody going to tell you what to pick otherwise? If you thought Cliff Kingsbury was just in a wrong place at a wrong time, you bring him to Arizona, we'll put some great skill position players around him, and we're going to score a boatload of points. And at the time, Sean McVeigh was the hot, like if you would have shaken hands with Sean McVe, you were getting an interview for an NFL job.

So Cliff Kingsbury kind of- Because they were all looking for the next Sean McVeigh. Yeah, there's, I feel, you know, when you and I will talk about a game, should a player have done this, should a bat, should a bat have been thrown, used in a position, should a pitcher been gone with or quarterback? This one we don't have the answer to. And that's why I think the Rooney rule is going to be constantly tinkered with until there's just a better ratio. And I don't think it's because the NFL's insisting on it, but I think there have probably been some cases in the last 10 years of two or three guys that should have been given a better opportunity to get the job. And I think the number one thing Ross that will help will be the fact that they don't have to wait until the season is over in order.

for these guys to talk. Yeah, and it's just about opportunity. Like I mentioned, the first 80 years of no Rooney Rule, there were seven minority head coaches. In the last 17 years of the Rooney Rule, there have been 15. So over double in a quarter of the time. But it feels like with only what three NFL coaches now,

I think it feels like that percentage is not where it needs to be. You count Rivera makes four minority coaches out of 32. Yes. Which is what, 15%. It's one eighth. That's 12.5%. 12 and a half percent.

Probably not the NFL bragging point on that. I'm guessing when the Rooney Rule came into play, they were thinking we've got, we'll have an opportunity that we can probably say that more than 12.5% of the coaches in the NFL are minority. And it's probably been smaller on the general manager side, too, if you think about it. I just never liked giving bonuses strictly based on color. I don't think the person would have enjoyed it. And I think from a PR standpoint, the team would have looked like,

oh, you're hiring this guy because all of a sudden you now, instead of having the 20th pick in the third round, you know the 12th pick. Yeah, but I also think that you have I mean, coaches aren't, they're not going to hire somebody unqualified to move up six spots in the third round. Or that's not even happening. So it doesn't matter.

So the incentives aren't even there. It's just about the opportunity. It's about getting a look. It's about the incentive. And the incentive thing has been tabled so it's not even going to happen. So I mean, you know, when Anthony Lynn was hired or when Eric B&M gets hired, he's not going to feel like he's unqualified. Mike Tomlin didn't feel like probably, well, he wasn't even, Ron Rivera got hired in

that, I mean, interviewed in that Steelers thing to make up for it. But anyways, I don't think you're going to feel unworthy. You're going to be happy for the opportunity and want to prove yourself. And when Eric Bienemy is the next Texan coach, I will be happy about that. Yes. Well, they don't wear jerseys in football. What would you get to represent Eric Bianami? He's wearing that, uh, the beanie. He wears beanies on the sideline, right? I'll wear a Texans beanie. There you go. In solidarity.

I'll make it my avatar. Yeah. I like that. Team B enemy. Capital T, capital E, capital A, capital N, team B enemy. Just in case we forgot. All right, back to wrap it up in a moment. If you want to join us on anything, we've gone through a plethora of topics.

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who works at the Golden Nugget in Lake Charles, he says crowds are pretty good so far. He says social distancing is in place and that everybody's welcome to come hang out. And I'm going to go this weekend to kind of test it out. I will wear a mask. Yes. I will social distance. Yes.

I will throw dice. Yes. I will throw winners. Are they going to wipe down the dice after every throw or what? I don't think so. I think it's after every person throws. Yeah. That's what I mean.

Not at every single time. And I think they will also take some time to clean. things up just randomly too. You know what it would make this all easier and I can't believe if casinos haven't done is why I have chips at all? I think part of the experience and the fun is the chips, but they've had like automatic poker tables for a while where you just kind of type in your bet and you get your cards and only you can see them and then you type in what you're going to bet and stuff

like that. Yeah. Now those were very unpopular actually because people like to interact and have the cards in their hand and feel the chips and throw them. But under a circumstance like this, you'd get why they would go more transition to that the question I would have for you is how do you do that because you know I'm a craps player so how do you do that with craps

you have a little you have like an iPad in front of you and you say I want to bet 20 on 8 20 on 15 months like if you're playing in your phone just the same exact thing and then but you can have the dice in your hand you just wouldn't have chips and they wouldn't have to hand you anything but it would feel very electronic and unorganic and that's part of the fun of rolling the dice

and hitting a hitting a heart aid and having them throw you chips and you throw the chip at a dealer. It all feels great, right? I'm showing no. Now you've lost it for the rest of the show. Mad needs a moment. But you know what I'm saying? It takes out of the huge part of the experience, but.

So I will, again, I'm going to be the guinea pig. I will social distance. I will wear a mask. I will do everything. But I, you know, we need to get back there and get some normalcy back on our life. So Golden Nugget, here I come on Sunday or Saturday. And hopefully Sunday. If I lose a lot on Saturday, then I'll be that quick a bit.

I will be with you in spirit, Matthew. I wish I could go. And you know what? As you were talking, that it makes all a lot of sense, but I hope that at a point a year from now, we don't have to have these drastic measures put in. Me too. I hope the experiences of restaurants and doctors' offices

are talking about the dentist today, they're not a permanent thing. I don't want to have to go everywhere and have my temperature checked. Yeah. I've just got multiple family members with health issues, so I just don't. That I come in contact with every now or not.

decision. You're right, my right decision. All right, 713, 2,1, 2, 5, 790. Bill's in spring on 790. Hello, Bill. Hey, Matt. You keep saying that you would not take a job if you thought your race had something to do with this. Other question, let's say, pick any country non-white, let's say somewhere in Africa or an Asian country, and they were looking to have more white broadcasters. I don't know why, but let's just say that. And they're paying $2 to $3 million a year, and they wanted more white

broadcasters, would you care? I mean, wouldn't you take that? No, no, my point, I do want to answer your question, but the point as I was saying is that I, if I was an African-American coach, part of me would be concerned about whether or not I'm taking, I'm getting this job because I either earned it or am I getting it because I'm moving my draft position.

That's the thing I'd be worried about. I'm not saying I wouldn't take it. I would say that I would be thinking in the back of my mind, am I getting this job because I deserve it, or am I getting it because I'm moving the brown up from the 20th draft spot to the 14th? Yeah, I mean, and that's a stupid, I mean, that was a stupid idea anyway. But the fact that you're a minority, that doesn't really, you know, that may not, I'm a minority.

And I wouldn't bother me if they're recruiting other minorities because they feel they need more people at that position. So I wouldn't know I got that because of minority, but I wouldn't care because they need more. Yeah. So let's go back to your question. Would I, if let's say, who would be a... Nigeria? I don't want to leave out... I don't want to live outside of the United States.

Yeah, I don't want to live out of southern United States. Well, what if you could do it here? Connect via the Internet. Get paid more because I was strictly white? Yeah, $2 million a year. Okay, it was a minority school district or something, and they needed some white guys to come teach broadcasting. Well, I'll say this.

You know what? I've never been presented in that scenario. I wouldn't, I don't think I'd go. You haven't thought about it. Well, that's right. I wouldn't go after it because it was white. I would go after it because it would be a new challenge. Again, I'd have to think about that.

I wouldn't think I would go just because I said, hey, we need white sportscasters. I'll give you an example, though. In 1979, Bill, how old are you may ask? 50. Okay. in 1979 my mother was offered a job as a school teacher in an h-isd school uh it was uh all african-american it was in an area of town that was all the school was probably 95% African-American i do believe she was offered more money because they were looking for anglo teachers

i can't guarantee that but i'm just because this is also talking about over 40 years ago but I believe that that has happened where Anglo or other races can get more money. And she was just looking to move to Houston. I think that also has to do with poor areas because I have people I know who are teachers and it's just my sister makes more in like the Alden district. Yeah, I think poor and it may not because my mom was white. It was just it was harder to get teachers to go to a certain part of town. Because quite frankly, the kids are tougher to deal with.

And in 1979 when my mom wanted to become a teacher somewhere in the South, H-I-S-D was paying significantly more money than, say, you know, suburban school districts. And that's why you're here, yeah? It is the reason why. I mean, obviously, this paid better than Detroit or, and certainly paid in Denver, whatever. But back to your original question, thank you, Bill, for the phone goes, we're running in short of time. I've never applied for anything where it said, hey, your skin color can help. $2 million.

That's just crazy. I mean, why would I ever want to turn down a $2 million job, period? Right? Yeah, you wouldn't. Yeah, so I mean, I got to be true. I'd say if I got to, if somebody offered me a chance to an internet show, doing exactly what I'm doing now, being paid $2 million, and part of it's because they're looking for white,

then I probably would have to apply for the job. Yeah, and I said yesterday, I got a scholarship, college scholarship because I was a minority. Yeah. You think I didn't, you think when I spent that money on, maybe not always on school, that you think I cared? And I'm also going to assume I'm going to be going against other white people for the job too, right? If that's what we're looking for.

What a What a weird convoluted question. Not the most straight apples and oranges analogy, but no. All right. Thank you to our pizza man for joining us on the show today. Craig Fight was with us. He clarified that he makes a good pizza, or at least he did in Salt Lake City.

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