The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - NBA Plan Seems Final, Rockets Final 8 Opponents, MLB Owners Reject Deal

Episode Date: June 3, 2020

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Good afternoon to you, and welcome to a Wednesday edition of the Matt Thomas show. This is Sports Talk 790. Yeah, I know this isn't the music that you hear on TNT. or an AT&T or ESPN. Doesn't matter. But it is. Greatest sports theme of all time. Drafted it in the Fantasy 5 and beat you.

Yeah. It's not the greatest of all time. It is. But it's the greatest basketball theme of all time. As a matter of fact, I'm going to play one for my days of youth on CBS that I think is awesome too. But this is the best one.

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Not that I would care about that. Is that on serious or something? No, no, no. I think he goes against Delilah at night in a lot of markets. Really? Yeah, it's like a mono-a-mono competition. Well, nobody could beat Delilah, Matt. No.

So soothing and caring and chival. Saturday 99.1. Yes. All right. So the reason we're playing this is because there is some very good news that will be expected to be ratified tomorrow by the NBA Board of Governors, aka the owners.

But the Board of Governors meeting tomorrow will take place where they will expect the NBA to officially resume it season July 31st, ending with a potential game seven of the NBA finals. October the 12th on Monday night. The NBA is back, baby, and the Rockets are in. The Rockets have been guaranteed a playoff spot in the Western Conference. Wonderful.

To no surprise. Their seating could move a little bit. My guess is there right now at the 6. They could probably get to 4 Ross if you're looking at it. I think 3 is a little bit of a dream. Yes. What was it? I'm pulling it up.

What are they? A couple of games back of Utah Jazz and the 4? It doesn't matter, though. You're not getting home court advantage. No, but it's about your bracket. And actually, there is a little bit of gimmickiness. Yeah, I meant up a word, but I think you're going to stay with me on this. Gimmickery?

I like that too. Gimmickery sounds actually a little easier, one less syllable. That the upper level teams, meaning top seeds in each of the conferences, would like a little bit of oomph because they're number one or two and number three as compared to being a six, seven, or eight. I don't believe that to be even worth thinking about, but we'll run through the at least some of the ideas that the upper echelot teams, your top seats, if you will, would like because of their record. Because, again, they believe the home court is important, and I get it. Everybody believes that.

But in these Ross, troubled times, these uncertain times, you might just need to not worry about the home court advantage. You might just be able to say, we are the best and we can beat you in a seven game series. but the rule is, not the rule, but the plan that is in place that will hopefully be ratified tomorrow by the NBA Board of Governors. The NBA season will start on July the 31st in Orlando at Walt Disney's Wide World of Sports. Each team that goes, 22 of them, that's the 16 during the playoffs, and the next six teams that are close enough to make a playoffs. That'd be five in the West and one in the East. The only team in the Eastern Conference that would be going would be the Washington Wizards.

In the West, it would be Portland, Sacramento, San Antonio, New Orleans, and I'm forgetting to the fifth team. I don't have the standings in front of me here. But there's somebody else that's in the mix on that. It's not Minnesota. You can look it up. Did you say San Antonio? San Antonio.

Phoenix. Phoenix. Okay. So those would be the six to make it 22 teams. If you've not heard this, the eight, the, if you are within four games, of the eighth seed, there would be a playing tournament. Now, the question I had to figure out is,

and I have not seen this, is this, oh, it's the, okay, here's what it is, I got clarification. If the number nine seed in the Western or Eastern Conference is within four games of the number eight seed, which very well could happen, they will have a playing tournament. If that happens, the number eight seed has to beat the number nine seed one time,

to officially claim their spot. If the number nine seed wants to take the number eight spot, they have to win twice. And as Joe George and I were talking about before the show, by the way, Joe's our producer until 2 o'clock, and then he checks out. You're rough on Joe. Love Joe.

Joe is putting up stuff on our content on our sports 790 webpage. I apologize, Matt. The 90s got to beat the 8C twice. Okay, cool. I love this. This is wonderful. This needs to be permanent.

Permanent? Absolutely. No, if you play 82 games, you get in, you get in. You're going to play 72. What's 10 game difference? Well, this shouldn't be happening in the first place, but they're trying to keep more teams interested and more markets interested. So you're telling me that you and I disagree on something that was a fundamental change to the sport. usually you and I flip-flop on these sides of things.

Yes, that's true. I believe, and I believe Joe George, you agree with me on this, that this should be a new playing rule in which it would be like, you know, the playing games of the Incadilly tournament? The NBA playoffs start on, say, Saturday or Sunday. If you're a 9

and 8, you start your playoffs on Wednesday. Well, what if it's like, what if it's like this year, the Magic and the Wizards? The Wizards are five and a half games back. If you play 82 games and they're five and a half games back, why should they get the chance to win two games and be in the playoffs? It keeps hope alive.

I know why they're doing it now. They're doing it now because you had the Clay Bennett's of the world and the Phoenix Suns owner. They're pleading for all 30 teams be included because they think the more teams in it, the more teams are interested. This is a special scenario. I'm okay with it as far as now. But in the future, when you have a full 82 game season and all 30 teams get to play their full 82, I think that's a little much. It's unfair to the eight seats.

Do I think it's going to happen? Probably not. But there are going to be some things, Ross, and I'm going to explain to you today that you're going to hate way more than that. At least I think it's what that's going to be. Well, we'll see. So we'll run through some of those scenarios.

But the Mbegay is going to play season. It's going to start on July 31st. The number one question has been why you want to wait that long. From what I was watching ESPN a few minutes ago, what ESPN is saying, and you just take this for what it is, is they have to get Walt Disney World ready to go. I guess they've not had it ready to go for quite some time. My guess is it's going to take goofy out of there or what? Well, it's going to take them a

couple of weeks to get the courts ready to get the NBA, I guess, software in there. Infrastructure. Yeah, you know, logistics. My guess is they got to put a schedule together because they haven't ratified. We never knew it was going to be 30 or 16 or 22, so you have to put together a schedule. That Ross might be the biggest little bit of controversy that we might have to. have is who the Rockets and anybody else plays in their final eight games. It'll be interesting. I imagine they'll want to keep it conference balanced or no? That's a great question.

I don't know. This is one of those things you really can say you don't know. It's going to be unbalanced as far as the teams remaining, right? That's right. Because there will be... It's 9 and 11. There will be some people that will play more games than others. I would assume you would not play anybody that you've already played your season allotment.

The Rockets and Clippers have already played, I think, as many. many times they were supposed to play this year. The Rockets and I think Golden State, well, they're not going. The Rockets were supposed to play before they came back. The Rockets were supposed to be in Los Angeles to play the Lakers and the Trailblagers in a two-game road trip. The Rockets also later this year were supposed to have a five-game road trip, which featured a game at Milwaukee, at Indiana, both playoff teams, at Philadelphia

playoff teams. So frankly, Ross, if you take a look at the schedule, the Rockets have. a lot of meat left in that bone in terms of playoff teams, and I wonder how many of those the Rockets will get. I know that Memphis and Portland were supposed to play a couple of times. Portland trying to sneak back in the playoffs,

trying to unseed Memphis. Will New Orleans get a unintentional, intentional, favorable schedule? Because Zion Williamson is a marquee player. There's a lot of things going around to him. So if you're in the NBA scheduling world, you have

to padlock that door and make sure you take no text, you take no phone calls. You have to just, you have to make sure that competitive balance-wise, every team feels like that everybody else is playing a comparable schedule. Yeah, I feel like they could hammer that out in a couple of days. Shouldn't be too difficult, I wouldn't think. As long as you're having, I don't know who's delegating to get focused on it, but as long as you have somebody focusing on it, whoever the schedule maker is.

It's a multiple person department. It's easier in the way that you don't have to, you would used to have to figure out travel and they want days off for a Nelton John concert. San Antonio has their rodeo. You don't have any of that. No, the biggest, well, well, you know, that's logistically an issue. Yeah. But competitively, you never had to ever worry about that.

Because the NBA schedule says you play everybody in your own division four times. You play the East once, or once at home, once in a road. This is unbalanced. And not only do you have an unbalanced number of games that have already been played, but you have now have an unbalance of how many teams are in the Western Conference as compared to the East. I don't know how the answer is what the answer is going to be to that. That's one that Adam Sober is going to have to answer because I couldn't tell you how you do it. And I'll be fascinated to figure out how they try to do it.

But 22 team restart apparently could be ratified as soon as tomorrow. Wonderful. Can't wait. Let's go. Which means once it does, then we're just going to sit here and take some vacation time until they come back. Yeah, maybe. I have a little time off schedule in the next. I was supposed to go to Lake Charles again this weekend with a new group of people

and it looks like to me that I'm not going to be able to go. Sorry, Matthew. Mrs. Thomas is not sorry either. Why not? She's not a big fan of me going. Oh. Don't try getting ready for a couple days? That's what I was thinking.

Get rid of me to win for everybody. Damn you, crystal ball. Or whatever it's going to be. Apparently, you know what it's supposed to do? It's not crystal ball anymore? It's supposed to go to Dolly, I think. Why? Because it's going to, it's been,

heading in the easterly direction back in the land where it goes, becomes a depression, and then it's supposed to kick back north, because I'm watching these things, and it's supposed to kick north and be renamed. Why would you name the same storm twice? Because it wouldn't be the same storm. Because you don't name tropical depressions after a person's name. Yeah, but if it gets downgraded, it becomes, it keeps, whatever. It doesn't matter.

Let's not talk about it. I don't care. I'm not arguing. I'm just telling you what they're telling me. No, I'm telling you, I don't know, and I don't care. Okay, let's move on. Dolly sounds a little better than Christopher, right? Why? Why, Matt?

Because you can always play Here You Come Again. Or Islands in the Stream. For Dolly Parton? Yeah, I mean, you can play... I guarantee you if Dolly becomes Dolly, we're going to play some Dolly music before the end of the week. I guess so. Anybody named Dolly in 2020? Let's do a Fantasy Five.

I'll go Dolly Madison and Dolly Parton. You go next. No, if you take first, I get the next piece. I go first. I'll go with Dolly Parton. I'll go with Dolly Parton. No, no, no, I already took Dolly Parton. Oh, I'm sorry, Dolly Madison, and I will go with Furniture Dolly. Okay.

I will go with... Let me think about this during the break. Sure. Dolly Lava? Oh, yes. Not me. That's not me, though. That's from the new producer.

That's from Brendan. Okay. Brendan's had more of the show than you have already? Oh, come on, man. That is being rough. I tease because I care. I don't know. 12-13 is a time.

With, it's a Joe George show featuring Matt and Ross. Does that make you feel better? A little bit. Space City Saturday. Noon to 2 on Saturday. You haven't come on my show yet. Follow Joe George radio. Can I come on your show this Saturday if I'm not in hurricane coverage?

Definitely. What if you are in hurricane coverage? Then I'll definitely be in your show. You won't have a show. So here's the thing. Either I'm taking days off next week or I'm working extra hours. There's no middle ground. Unless the storm hits Lake Charles and then we don't worry about it here.

But if it comes to Houston, then I'm KTRH for a couple days. 713-212-5. 790. 713, 212, 570. You NBA fans that are bouncing around on this Wednesday, I tell you, there's going to be a 22 team resumption of the NBA season. Give me your first blush thoughts on it. Yeah, I said it. First blush. 713-212-5-790. 719. 719. 719. 719. Good gracious. Good gracious. You're listening to the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. Ross, check those phone lines. See how excited people are for the resumption of the NBA season.

Line 1, you're on NBA is back. Go ahead. Where's the phone system? I don't know. The caller thing is gone. Oh, you wanted me. That's why I was confused why you wanted me to do it. Where is it?

I don't know. Where's our pad? Where's our caller pad? Not that we have any calls, but if we did, I'd like to talk to them. Somebody stole the collar pad. There's something wrong with it? I think there's something wrong with it, and they're working on it. Oh.

What happened? So I can't do my patented. Let's go to line one. Let's try this. Line one, you're on 790. Good afternoon. Okay, it must be some technical issues. We're not having the pad here.

Line two, your own rocket talk is back. Go. Damn. Let's try one more, Ross. Line three. How much do you love Adam Silver right now? Go. When we used to go to line three and I would play the guys, we got to go get Vince Young

drop. Yeah. Brendan, if you're watching the show right now, that's where the sound bites would have come in beautifully. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-2-1-2-5-790 on Twitter at SportsMT, at SportsRV, and at Joe George Radio. Bill O'Brien showing a side we had never heard from him. Correct. And that'll be coming up at the bottom of the hour.

And he seemed genuine and said all the right things. It's mind-blowing, Matt. Let me hold it for 10 minutes. Okay. But I want you to say. When we get to it. Yeah, because I want to get to it. We shall discuss.

I want to respond to what you said on it. I think it's a very good point. All right. So we're going to have, I mean, I don't know if people are just into it or it's just people worried about other things, but we're going to have live sports pretty damn soon. And I'm very excited about that. I mean, I'm very nervous about it because I'm going to have a role in it somehow some way, probably broadcasting a bunch of, you know, or at least. handful of games. I know that Bill or Ellen Craig have not split up what they're going to do yet.

We know what the schedule is yet. I think it's going to be weird because I think they're going to be playing at very weird times. Yeah. Has there been any discussion if there's going to be like noon games or how many could they, do they have enough courts over there for? From what I was told. On Monday, there are going to be three to four courts available.

Oh. One that's going to be primarily used for TNT. one that's going to be primarily used for ESP and ABC, and then one primarily that's going to be used for NBA TV and the local regional networks. Interesting. But here's the reality. Do you want to, if the Rockets are playing any of the West Coast teams,

and those West Coast teams want those games on in primetime in California, how are you supposed to play a Rockets-Lakers game at 1030 Eastern time? Isn't it's funny to think about it? Well, that's what they normally do anyway, right? They do, but at 7.30 Pacific time. Everybody's going to be in the Eastern time zone. Nobody plays at 10.30 p.m. Oh, you play 10.30 at night?

Oh, that's fine. These guys can play in the gym all throughout the night. I mean, it's not, yeah, I mean, they got really nowhere else to go. You're going to tell me James Hardin's not up at 1130? Yeah, but I... It'll be definitely weird and in Justin period. I don't know. I'll be honest with you. I don't think there's anybody's ever...

Any player that's been in that course, tipped off a game this late in their adult life at 10.30 Eastern time? Professionally no. Probably on the B ball court, on the on the on the blacktop, yes. Yeah, pick up game with your buddies. Sure. Because they never did it in high school. There's people playing. They never did it in college. They certainly never done it in the NBA. So you'd have to probably think would an A. EU game go start at 1030 at night? Probably not. Probably not. So you're talking maybe the first time in their organized and again I'm here I'm presuming they're going to play it at night. at 10.30. And they could be pulling everything earlier.

Who knows? But there may be the first time they ever played an organized game of basketball that late at night in their entire life. Maybe they wouldn't want to do that because then you'd have to have security on them later, there later? I don't know. But how do you feel if you're in the West Coast? Hey, okay. The Kings are playing. What time they're playing? Two-30? Which would be 530 in the east. That's fine. They're accustomed to that, but they've never played it. It'd be kind of hard to get that. Yeah, there's definitely going to be an adjustment period. They're just going to have to be night. They're all going to become night owls, which probably many of them are.

Which my guess then would be the Eastern Conference teams would probably be the ones playing earlier on. The 230 game or 330 or whatever. But that's also not fair to them either because they want their game. I mean, it's going to be just a really, really, really weird dynamic of win games about it. I bet everybody plays at awkward times. But I would not be surprised in this time slot in the next, say, between July and September 15th that we're playing a game at one o'clock Houston time. That'd be great. Which means a good Rockets rent.

I got your launch pad at noon. With sports RV, that's exactly right. Yeah, so I just thought it was interesting. I'm excited to get back in the launch pad flow. I am, first of all, I love NBA basketball. Maybe I'm not the majority for the audience, but I love the game. I'm involved in it, and I'm curious over the scheduling.

I'm curious what the court's going to look like. I have a sort of a feel because I've watched games before at Whitewold of Sports. so it's not like I've never seen a game played there. They have a college tournament there every single year. There are no fans there in theory. I mean, there may be a few that come on a trip, but it's largely done in an empty arena. So that, like I said,

I think any player that worries long-term about not having fans is missing a big picture. The big picture is they're going to get paid and there's going to be a champion that's going to be crowned. And that's the most important thing. I'm wonderful. Yeah, we just, it felt like in the last couple of, or at least the last couple of days,

we were like on the five-yard line. And we're definitely not. The vote still has to happen with the Board of Governors. But it just, to have Woage dropped that it's going to happen, that was the greatest news I could have woken up to.

Thank you, Woj. There's really one of the way you wake up to that's better. No. Wode is the best? Yep, number one. So you're telling me in your entire life, a Wodge bomb is the best way to wake up. Absolutely, Matt.

Okay. I haven't quite thought of it that way, but you know what? It's not like Woj gives bad news. I dream thinking of Woj, like you do, apparently. I had two, NBA dreams last night.

We're doing M.T.'s dream analysis? Do you feel like we need like dream analysis music? Dream. Joe, can you find us some dream analysis music? They're both NBA related, which I think is a good sign. Remember, I've told you all, those of you listen to last week or so on for that, we thank you. I really want erotic dreams, but they're not happening. Maybe, maybe my reality is...

How many times a day do I not finish a sentence? Yes! Joseph, you are the producer of the year, baby. At least someone appreciates me. Joe, we're going to have a goodbye party for you next week. But remember, if Brendan is better than you, like, really quick, we'll hardly acknowledge your existence. That's not true, Joe.

I will still have him on the nightcap, and I still appreciate you, Joe. And I will listen to Space City Center. That's a lie. That's probably true. Dream number one? I was in Salt Lake City. The Rockets had just finished their fourth playoff game against the Jazz. The series is tied to two games apiece.

I don't know what year it is, what series it is. I know it's in the Delft, Vivint Smart Home Arena. I don't know what time of the year it is, but I open up the arena door to go walk back to the hotel, and it's a pretty good walk. There's ice and sleet and snow on the ground. So the Rockets Director of Security, his name is Brian, says, let's go get a cavvary. and go back to the hotel. And we get in the cab and we take off and that's the end of that dream. Maybe when NBA comes back, you're going to be on uneasy ground

because you're not sure which games you're calling, what your level of involvement is going to be. And why we're playing the Utah Jazz is another thing, too. Well, that's possible. It is true. Dream number two, after a quick urination break at 2.45 in the morning, is I'm in Los Angeles for a Rockets-Lakers game. I don't know if it's a regular season game or it's a post-season game. or it's a postseason game.

I think I'm at the form. And I think I'm calling the game. The forum? The form. I think I'm calling the game from the baseline. Have you done games in the forum before? No. Rewn NBA, but not NBA.

And the comments and sparks would play there. Big rivalry. Yeah, big's a relative term. Somebody pulls a plug on all the radio equipment on this entire baseline of broadcasters. Really? So my producer, engineer, who's with me there, is having to go down deep, and this is vivid, going down deep into the cords

and trying to plug everything back together and untangle everything. Meanwhile, that's close to tip time, and I'm not going on the air. So I get on the phone and I call Craig, and Craig's like, I don't have time for this, I'm doing the TV broadcast. So I hang up the phone.

It was a flip phone, too. So this had it been 20 years ago. Okay. And then I forget, and then I wake up from that dream. So I don't know how that ended either. See, yet again, you're uncertain if you're going to be on the call

to there before you lose power right before the game. Yeah. I think part of it is because I'm anxious about having to call a game off of a monitor. And those are my two dreams. Interesting. Not involving women. That's unfortunate.

Both involving basketball. Two different Western Conference teams. At least you're fully clothed too. That's what's important. Yeah. I haven't had a naked dream in quite some time. Like being in your freshman English class and you're being the only person not wearing clothes? That happens all the time.

All right. On a much more serious note, Bill O'Brien shows a side that. we have yet, I mean, that'd be easy to say you have never seen, right? Yeah, I would say so, yes. Yeah. We'll talk about that and let you hear a little bit of what he had to say after a message here for Big City Wings. Today is Wednesday, which means $8 burgers at all eight of the Big City Wing locations.

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It is a Matt Thomas show. By the way, at 1 o'clock, the three of us are going to run through what's ridiculous and what's not about the potential NBA advantages for the home court. Okay, great. The team in the higher seat. That's coming up in about 25 minutes. Can't wait. So Bill O'Brien was supposed to, there was a press conference, a Zoom call, if you will, with Michael Thomas, a brand-new safety for the Texans.

And I was doing some stuff with my family, so I did not know that Bill O'Brien was going to speak in front of it to talk about things first. You asked me a question, and now I'm ready to answer it. The question was. Well, it was more of a statement, and you can agree with it or not. I said, this is the most genuine. We've ever heard him, and he said all the right things, which is. both of those things are rare. Rarely does he seem genuine?

I guess when he's being angry, he's being genuine, but it seems like there's a lot of smokescreen stuff and fake stuff. So genuine from the heart, it seemed like, and said the right things to me. In fairness, we only get to judge him based off of press conferences, Q&As. Yes. We don't know him at all.

We don't get to know a lot of the coaches. The only reason why, frankly, I know Mike Dantone better is because of the relationship I have with the team. But Mike Dantone is not asking guys to go out and have beverages at a lot or eat dinner and one thing. A.J. Hinch doesn't do that. The reason why A.J. Hinch got to be known so well with the media is because there was a lot of things that you could talk to him about with the microphone turned off. Anybody that was a member of the Houston media could go in the dugout at 4 o'clock, get the official stuff. The microphones, the cameras are turned off.

And then he would just talk with you for 15 or 20 minutes. And that's why he developed a good rapport because he would say some things, not necessarily inflammatory things or things that were headlines, but just. kind of behind of what he was thinking. Bill O'Brien never let you do that. Bill O'Brien from the day he became a Houston Texans head coach had no interest in building a relationship with the media. He said that over and over and over again. One of the soundbys we play all the time is, I don't care what you think is you don't care what I think. I'm paraphrasing here. But today, he comes out, for those of you that do not know, and showed a side of him that we have not seen in six years. There's no argument to that whatsoever. And, and, you know, and, you know, and

And it could be very easy for all of us to say, is this rhetoric or is this how he really feels? And that's going to be the decision up to every single human being. I can't tell you, based on my experience, he's telling you what you want to hear. Or based on my experience, this is from the heart. I don't know him. So we'll only take it at face value. But I think we'll share the same sentiment after we play. We're not going to play the whole thing.

It's like 10 or 11 minutes long. want to play three sound bites for you. And now I want to play one or two sound bites of Michael Thomas kind of reacting to what Bill O'Brien had to say. Here is the first, again, this is about 11 minutes that he went through. And I just don't want to play the whole thing as it drags a little bit. But here are three of the most important little clips of what Bill O'Brien said to the media today concerning what has gone on in our country the last 10 days or so. Our hearts go out to the black community in this country and in this especially in this city.

We stand by you and we are ready to do our part in this community. I think everyone has to admit their mistakes along the way. We all have to stand up and understand that what is going on in this country right now is wrong. It's wrong relative to many, many things.

You know, I had a great conversation with a friend yesterday. A friend of mine who I won't mention his name, but he talked to me, he's a black man, and he talked to me a lot about his experiences growing up in Miami and living on the West Coast. And it's not just police brutality, although that's what we're talking about right now. It's corporate America. It's professional sports. It's the medical area.

It's the legal area. It's everything. have to do our part. We all have to do it now. At face value, Ross, not liking the person particularly a whole lot. Yes. Come across honest, forthcoming. I don't think it sounded like it was rehearsed. I'm sure he rehearsed it because it's a very difficult conversation piece, but as genuine has ever been. Yeah, and I agree with his sentiments and what he said about how it's just, it's not just one area. It's the justice system, like you said, the legal area, medical area, medical fields.

There are problems all over the place. Yeah. So that's just one little sample. Here's another one from Coach O'Brien earlier today. I've had the privilege of being around some unbelievable players and coaches. I've learned a great deal from all of them as it relates to the Texans. I've learned so much from men like Romeo Cornell. When he talked to me one time about his experiences coaching college football,

on the South during the late 60s, early 70s. I've learned a lot from Deshawn Watson, you know, when he talks about growing up in Gainesville and why he has the area code of Gainesville tattooed on his arm. I've learned a lot over the last year of talking to Kenny Stills on why he takes a knee. I think we all know why Kenny takes a knee and why Eric Reed takes a knee. Yeah, I'll just basically echo what I said before. I don't find anything preposterous about what I think he's saying

I don't think it's formulated I don't think someone asked him to write he asked someone to write this and that's one of the things that one of that little piece is one of the things that makes me think he's being genuine it's because he talks about

Romeo Cornell sites of specific examples I didn't even know Romeo Cornell was a coach in the South in the 70s talks about Kenny Stills and Deshawn Watson's tattoo so he's actually had these conversations

how much has he drawn from him we don't know but this is what he's talking about and he seems to act like he's being genuine here. Last one of our sound bites we're going to play is that Coach O'Brien admitted that he has been listening to words of leaders during this time as well. I've read Brian Flores' statement probably 50 times. I've read Coach Popovich's comments.

I've read the comments of President Obama and Bush, true leaders, leaders that have empathy, leaders that have an understanding of what leadership is all about, their statements have resonated the most with me. B-Flow spoke about honesty, transparency, and empathy go a long way and that we coach a great group of young men who can have a huge impact. They can. And just to let you know, this was the announcement of Bill O'Brien doing this was, there was no announcement.

This was Michael Thomas to speak about becoming a member of the Texans. And oh, by the way, Bill O'Brien said, hey, I'd like to take 10 minutes of the Zoom meeting before you guys talk to him about this. So this wasn't a, hey, here's a press conference because Bill O'Brien's got a few things on his chest. Now, my guess is when the Texans announced that Michael Thomas was going to do this, Bill O'Brien said, hey, can I take the first time before that? And so he did. I don't believe he took any questions from those who are in the Zoom meeting. So it was just a statement. I wanted to say this to get this out there.

and I will say the general reaction on Twitter and I'll be honest I've been probably looking at Twitter significantly less in the last two weeks than I have probably in the previous 800 weeks but it feels like that every I shouldn't say everybody most people believe that this comes from the heart

and this is genuine and this is something that he wasn't forced to do that he felt like he had to do and so I'll say this I don't respect him as a coach I think he's a yeller and a screamer I think he's not a very good general manager, but you know what, we got to be fair. And I applaud him for doing what he did today. Because again, it was no one was baiting him to do it.

The city of Houston wasn't asking, where's Bill O'Brien's comments during this time? And frankly, sometimes you go out there in a limb, you're going to irritate even more people by things you try to say and it doesn't come across the right way. what he's doing is he's saying things that are resonating. And for that, I applaud him for that. Does it make him any better of a football coach? Probably not. Seems a little more human for the first time and maybe ever. No, probably in Hard Knocks when he was dealing with his son.

Oh, I think there's a human side to be. Exactly. He just has no. We just don't see it. We don't see it. Yeah. And like you said, we just have that relationship built with him or anything like that. we just have see what we see in press conferences and in various media.

You know, somebody asked me today, does this change who you think he is? No, because I'm not here as a sports talk show host to talk about how great a man a person is. It's always a great benefit that someone is. But I, through my experiences as sports radio host, most coaches and general managers and players don't have that feeling. Don't, aren't ultimately likable people. they're general managers and coaches especially very very power hungry my way or the highway i'm the smartest guy in the room it's rare that you that you don't see that from an NFL NBA NFL MLB coach that's why i root and you ross you know i talk about this all the time i root for those that aren't that way

i root for the anti urban Myers you know the opposite of those kind of people i root for the opposite tyrant NBA coach or NFL coach because I want those guys to keep their jobs because I mean like Tony Dungey to me would be a coach I would want to have as a 50 year contract because I think he's a good football coach and probably a better man. I'm not willing to say that about Bill O'Brien because I don't know him. He doesn't have the experience of this. But today he went a long way and kind of not saying repairing but just showing a different side that we've never ever seen before.

And it's unfortunate that it took six years. a national tragedy for us to see that. 1243 on the Matt Thomas show. 713-212-5-79. If you want to comment on anything that you heard Coach O'Brien say, I'd be willing to take it because we're an open form on this radio show. 7-13-212-5-7-90. Top of the hour, the NBA again, with great news of a return of an NBA season,

officially, hopefully tomorrow. But there are some things that are in play that home teams, the home higher seed may want that sound to me completely preposterous. We'll give you that coming up in 15 minutes here on Sports Talk 790. Hey, it's Carmelo Anthony. The Matt Thomas Show.

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Talking about Bill O'Brien in the comments that he had to say, if you want to get in on the phone line, 713-212. 790 is the phone number 713-1-2-5-790. And a couple of things coming out on the baseball side. Of course, we said the agreement looking like it's going to get ratified for the NBA tomorrow. Well, the Major League Baseball side continues to be ugly.

And now it looks like, according to Ken Rosenthal, a tweet from a couple of about 20 minutes ago. He says, Major League Baseball rejected the union's proposal for 140. 14-game season. That's to be expected. This part is a little troubling. He says MLB will not send a counter. Sources tell the athletic. The league says it has started talks with owners about playing a shorter season without fans and that it's ready to discuss additional ideas with the union. He went on to say the ideas the MLB wants to discuss with the union are about resuming the season without fans. So we have an owner, a proposal from the owners, rejected, a proposal from the players, rejected and not going to be countered, and here we sit. Just scrap the season. I'm not saying about the fans.

I mean, if fans go, fans go, I think that's, that revenue stream is largely gone. Okay. It might cost them as much money to put the stadium in operation than it would be to fill it with 3,000 people. Yeah, depending on how many games it is, it might not even be worth it. be more financially responsible or smart. And healthier. And a risk and a health risk than it would be to put them in there. I mean, I don't even count that.

They're not worried about that. They're worried about splitting the pie or getting their... Or disagreeing about how much a pie there is. Or how much pie they've already eaten. Yeah. As enchanted as I am with the thought of the rockets and the NBA starting up here in the end of July, which would be a long time. I'm disenchanted about what the hell is going to.

on with baseball. Yes. I'm excuse my French on this. They're both sides are incredibly greedy sons of bitches. Yeah. They both want what they think is fair. Yeah. And they're going to argue it.

They're going to put their foot down and say, my way is the highway or we're not going to play. And they're going to sit there and do that. And they're going to sit there and spend a lot of time doing that when they're going to let valuable days. Rossi, to have something done in the next week so they get to spring training so they can play in July 1st. You can't shorten up spring training. You can't. Everything that you worked on in the

month of February, March, that's gone. You have to have a brand new one, don't you? Yeah, and this is the thing too, though, Matt. I mean, they're having all these issues right now. What if, I mean, there is a prediction, right, that there's a possible second wave of coronavirus during the winter. What if we're in the midst of something in January and February? That's when pitchers and catchers are supposed to report and then you're supposed to have games into March beginning of April.

Right. Right. If this, if they can't get onto something going now, is this going to be the same issue then? And then if they're, somehow, I mean, I wouldn't think the 2021 season would be canceled as well. You're talking about another new CBA. This could just get ugly and then

uglier in February and just continue to be between both teams. Nasty and every day that they go by, their fans are losing interest. fans are watching other things and fans are realizing that they can live without baseball and as we discussed a few days ago the first of all the owners and the players

even before this don't like each other don't trust each other right zero trust zero trust and there is the CBA the collective bargaining agreement ends at the end of the 2021 season right so what they're doing essentially Ross is they are arguing before

the early times they're really supposed to argue instead of coming to the table saying we got a year left on our contract let's work this out this pandemic has ruined that. You're not supposed to be speechless on radio because it sounds awkward. Both sides are digging in. But there is no compromise. We have seen nothing close to a number of games agreed upon.

Yeah, the owners can force the players to come back, right? Is what you're basically saying? They can, it brings the possibility of them implementing a 50 game season. That's what Jeff Passon says. But they can say, hey, we're doing a 50 game season. This is what's happening. And then what if the players don't show them. up. The players will not show up and they will say, we don't feel safe playing baseball in 2020 when it has

nothing to do with the pandemic. Because if anything to do with the pandemic, Ross, they never would have brought up 114 games to begin with. They would have said, we're concerned about the pandemic, we're concerned about being gone from our families or being in these uber secure situations. Maybe we just play 50 games, get a season and call today. Well, they did have the opt out. so them saying well players who want to opt out can opt out and players who want to opt in can opt in so I think that is showing some level of and they wanted full pay for high risk players

so that is some level of concern for player safety oh I think I think there's a level of concern but I think that the thought of grabbing as much money as possible is way more important than worried about their concern both sides absolutely let's say hi to Jeremy and Tickie Allen one of my favorite parts of the area, line one on 798, 1254. Hi, Jeremy. All right. So I just did some research a long ago, and the transmission rate, what I've seen

for the coronavirus is like 0.24 in places. That's the number I saw the most. 0.24 what? 0.24 means that means for every four people that get infected, they passed on the 1. You have a pandemic when the ratio was over 1.0. That means that for every one person, 1.0, 1 people are infected. If we're at 0.24, the WHO calls it a pandemic at 1.0. We're past the pandemic. The pandemic's over.

I think that the six to eight weeks, 10 weeks, quarantine whenever we did, was enough to slow the spread, and then the improved tracing, testing, et cetera, has continued to bring it down, daily deaths down, et cetera. At what point do we say we don't have a pandemic anymore? Let's fill the stadiums up. If we had protests starting a week ago, it takes a week for an incubation to occur. We should start seeing dramatic increases real soon if we have a problem. But if 100,000 people can gather on the street in every major city,

then 30,000 can gather in a stadium and use better hygiene practices than what was going on in the streets across America all the week. I have no idea what they were doing, but there were no options, so you can make a mind up. Anyway, let's play ball. Open it up. Let's go. It isn't a question of the stadium. Thank you for the call.

It's a question of the greed between the owners and the players. I think the last concern is how full the stadium should be. I am curious about the rally, which apparently last yesterday, Bunn had 60,000 people there. Yes. I would say it looked like most people wearing masks, but not everybody. No, I would say probably more than a half, but there was no social distancing. Certainly not. So is that weird that we could use that as a sample?

No, I think that's people have been talking about that. Will we see a spike? I mean, we've seen mass protests in a number of cities and where this spreads is the worst is in high-density areas because you have people who are close in close proximity. So I guess we'll have to keep an eye on. So let me ask you this. If we don't see a spike. Most of the mass protests were over the last three days.

So it hadn't been a week. Yeah, but if we don't see a spike, what are we supposed to do? We're supposed to go, all right, we're past the worst part? I guess. Or maybe there is some credence to that there was the thought that it's less of a problem during summer? I don't know. I'm not a health expert. I never want to be a health expert.

No. What does Dr. Focci say about these things? What has he been? I don't know. Somebody tweeted that yesterday. They're like, hey, you guys remember Dr. Fauci? Fouchi or Fouchy? I thought it was Fauci.

I'll go Fauci. Okay. Yeah, where has he been? Where are those daily, horrific press conferences where the, President Trump just gets mad at the media every day? Those are gone too. I want regular old COVID back.

Actually, I don't. You know, I don't mean that. Yeah, I know. No, I know what you're saying. You're making, it's fine. I don't know what's happening. All right. So Major League Baseball sounds like they are no closer.

the NBA is ridiculously closer. We'll run through again what the NBA is saying what's going to happen, hopefully with a ratification of this tomorrow by the Board of Governors. There are some upper echelon teams that think they are owed a little extra something, something for having a better record. We'll explain what that is

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This is the Matt Thomas show. Our producer today is Joe George. Brendan, our soon-to-be new producers, kind of learning the ropes. Joe, when does he get to touch a few buttons around these parts here? We're going to get him acclimated to the old 790 scene? Very much in the next like five minutes. Really? He ran trenches.

How do you do? I heard it went great. Any dead air or anything like that? I'm not sure about that. Okay. We need your opinion on something here, so Joe should be ready. I know that you're already thinking about how exciting the A team's going to be this afternoon. But I want you involved in this because I love your opinions.

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He had a very much-needed and heartfelt conversation today about race relations in America and how he's disturbed about the events of the last week or so. The good news today, beyond the fact that we've had some peaceful protests. Yesterday from the large part went really, really well. is we have some good news in the world of sports, and that is the NBA is set to vote tomorrow on a 22 game,

excuse me, 22 team rest of the regular season. Everybody's going to play eight games, and then they'll reseed. If the eighth place team does not have at least a four and a half game lead over the ninth place team, eight's going to play nine in a play in kind of a quasi-tournament, the ninth seed team in both the west and east has to beat that eight-seated team in two games.

where the eight-seated team only has to be the ninth-seated team one time. And that's only if the eight-seeded team, both the East and West, does not have at least, is it a four-and-a-half game lead, right? I think so. Because there's going to be a disproportion number of games play, because some teams have already played more games. Everybody's going to go to Orlando, excuse me, then in July, and play eight more regular season games.

You don't think, my thing for me is the most fascinating part is the game times. How many back-to-backs in who you play? How much crossover there's going to be? Same? Yeah, those are all definitely things that we're looking for. I definitely want, I think the biggest one to me is time. I wonder how they're going to be able to time this out with how many courts they have. And like we were bringing, are they going to be starting games at 10.30 at night and stuff like that local time?

It'll be interesting. My guess, they have three courts. You'll have a game played at noon, just theoretically putting a timeout. You'll have the next game at 2.30. You'll have the next game at 5. that noon court gets to be used at 7 o'clock. Because they're going to scrub arenas down. They're going to go through all that, right?

So it's going to be like March Madness, where we're going to have basketball all day. I believe so. Every day. Or could be staggered. But they'll be constantly a game on. We're going to do like March Madness. Well, here's the thing, guys, I got news for you. You can't play, you have to play more than four games a day.

Yeah, so I mean, what if they played three games a day on each court? And they were just constantly on TV, different channels. Like ESPN and 11 games. Well, you don't, not everybody, not all. 22 teams had to play every day. You probably do then do what, like six, seven, eight games a day. So I'll say this. Noon, 1.30, 230, 230.

3.30, 435, 36, 37. After that noon game, you have to clean the gym out. You just do. You're going to have to scrub it down. So if you play at 1230, what's a normal game? Like, three hours? No, usually 2.15. Yeah.

So they're done by 245. Right. Play at 5. Next game at 5 o'clock. Sure. So essentially, four and a half hours. hours after you play. And then you play again at 9.30?

Yeah, you can play 930 Eastern time. Sure. We're talking to... Now, this could also be meaning 11 o'clock in Houston. Look, the Lakers could be playing the Miami Heat at 9 a.m. one morning. I think it's totally possible. I'd watch. Put it on.

What do they start like 10 a.m. on Christmas? Yeah. 11 o'clock. 11 o'clock. 11 o'clock. Could you go 11 and do a round robin with four courts? If you got a fourth court, play eight games a day. Would that be an hour?

Yeah, I think so. And you stagger them by, say, 75 minutes and 90 minutes. 16 of the 22, and you're going to rotate in days off and all that type of stuff. And I imagine they'll try to get it done within a couple of weeks. See, that's why this, to me, is so incredibly fascinating. Because, guys, we hopefully will never have to go through this ever again. But this is going to be really weird. We're going to be able to tell our grandkids about how the NBA season in 2020 ended.

And that's why I told the NBA, if they need me, I'll go. Now, I don't know if I can go because I've got Rockets responsibilities, but if the NBA needs a PA announcers, I think they're going to need people to say what's going on. Fowls, two minutes left to go in the quarter. Not that you're going to be, I'm sitting there rooting for, you know, screaming, LeBrogate! No, it's not happening.

I'll never do that. Why not? Because I'm very accustomed. Well, you can't go, Steve Kerr. Why not? You're the neutral. You're doing PA for both? Yeah.

LeBron James. Ladies and gentlemen, the starting lineups first for the San Antonio Spurge. And now, well, the Golden State Warriors won't be there. And now the Oklahoma City Thunder. This is going to be weird. I'm interested in the TV broadcast and how much we're going to hear. We've been talking about this the whole time. I mean, you're basically in a summer league type of environment.

Right. So I'm telling you, they will have to either put a delay on, or they'll have to tell these players and coaches if you swear you're getting teed up immediately. Oh. Guys, you've been around games and all your life. You're going to swear, yeah. It's impossible.

You can't know. You'll have nobody left on the court by the fourth quarter. See, I think there has to be a delay because you've got to worry that one of these guys is going to cross the line and normally we don't hear it and they don't care about it. But you hear it today? People are going to try to cancel them. Like officials will say, give me. a blank blank brink.

That ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work either. The officials, the coaches, everybody's gotta behave themselves. Yeah, we played the audio of, I mean, not the audio, there was the quotes last week's Steve Scott Foster, and he was talking about

how he didn't want people to hear what he says to the coaches and what the coach say to him. Like, if I owe you one, you know what, I screwed that one up. They don't want to be on national television. We heard saying that. If they say, I owe you one,

you know what I mean. Yeah, they're going to say, we miss that. Right, that's what I meant. Yeah, I was going to say, You're not going to say it. Slow that, Ross. Let's start some of it's not there.

Right. You know what I mean. That one was on me. Or if Scott goes to Dan Tony and says, I owe you one. And he's like, I need this one right here. He thinks I owe you one. And maybe he doesn't say that. But we've seen makeup calls our entire lives watching the NBA.

Right. All right. Dave McMiniman. By the way, if McMiniman was, like, if you're in a spelling bee of NBA reporters, those are the two of the hardest names. Wojahowski and McMinneman, right? Do you think he was ever to... Sharmaia, too.

All right, so Dave McMinnon, that's a bunch of syllables. ESPN, says there are several teams. Now, again, this could be one, and he likes to embellish a little bit. But I don't know, McMinneman. Is he good or not? Who knows? He says several title favorites are internally discussing how to retain some semblance of home court advantage.

I'm going to read them to you, each one. and you tell me, convince me, let's do it, or this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life, okay? In one of those three categories. The higher-seated team being awarded the first possession of the second, third, and fourth quarters following the traditional jump ball to begin the game. So the jump ball is the jump ball. Every other quarter, the higher-seated team gets the ball to start the quarter.

Joe George. Convince me. second, third, and fourth quarter so you get an extra possession. Yeah, sure, why not? Yeah, I'd be okay with that. Not. It's not the end of the world.

These are all, by the way, these are in the categories of all gimmicky. I'm not even saying you can accept any of them. It's okay. It's not great, but it's not the worst. It seems relatively harmless. Why do it, though?

I mean, it just, does it really matter if you get the ball first to start a quarter of them? Well, I mean, if you're a possession guy, you're one possession, yeah. I mean, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, forget about it. I don't, I don't know. Forget about it. Okay.

Next. Yeah. The higher seated team being allowed to designate one player to be able to be whistled for, I mentioned this yesterday, seven fouls instead of six before fouling out. So the clippers would go Patrick Beverly. Rockets would go Tucker. With Rockets don't foul guys out, Tucker would probably be the one, yeah. Or do you give it to like a bench guy?

And he just have him go hack everybody? He's the hacker, the Shaka hack. I'm going to take a vote. I'm going to say, forget about it. I don't want this either. That's dumb. It would be fairly harmless. It wouldn't even come into play

of the majority of the time. Here's one that could be not to forget about it immediately. The higher-seated team receives an extra coaches challenge. That's good. I like that one. I'd be good with that.

I'd be totally fair with that. If that's the advantage you want. So I guess the question is, do any of you, the three of you feel that we need to give them them being the higher-seated team and advantage? Is there a need for it?

I would say no. Personally, I don't. I'd say, look, home court's awesome, but it isn't the end game. We've seen Toronto beat Golden State to win a championship on their home floor. We've seen the Warriors beat the Rockets on the home floor. I mean, home floor is cool.

Well, you've got to bring that up, man. The 76ers? When they have what, they won nine games on the road this year? Yeah. Like they're the best record in the NBA by far at home and the worst record, worse than any other team in the league on the road.

All right, two more. The higher-seated teams being able to transport their actual hardwood home court from their arenas to Orlando to try to preserve the feel of their home playing experience. That's not real. I'm not real. I didn't make that up. Dave McMinneman, that is stupid. Those teams are idiots.

That's the dumbest one of the four so far. That's horrible. Why would you even say that? I'm not going to say they're idiots. because I'm not going to lie. It feels like a idiotic. It feels like a Daryl move. Maybe he's, no, why would Daryl do that?

Don't be nice. No, I love Daryl Mory. But I think Daryl Mory, of all people, would be like, our court gives us an advantage. No, why would he say that? I don't know, but. It would be kind of cool. I'll be honest with you. It'd be cool for it to be the Parquet floor at noon and the Tota Center at four.

And then it's the, it's the staple center at eight. I mean, from a coolness standpoint, I could dig this. There's no way in hell, Darryl Morey thinks the, the wood on the floor as to the home court advantage. If I was going to assign one of these things to Darrell so far, I think I would take the floor. He would want the extra possession. That's a good point. Yeah, I think most general managers would be the first possession, the second, third, and fourth.

All right, the last one. This might be as, and I don't mean to self-gloss this one or self-make-fund of myself on this one, but here it comes, Ross. This would be the fancy mat rule. Okay. Uh-oh. A cocktail is at half court? An off-court feature in which playoff teams, in order of seating 1 to 16, received first,

choice I'm picking which hotel they will stay at at the ESPN worldwide of sports complex. I like that. That's fine. That doesn't hurt anything. I think that one actually makes legitimate sense. Well, how about they get to choose the hotel of their opponent? I think they put them in the palace in or something. Let me tell you.

I don't hate this one. I've been to Orlando 500 times. There are PIs as often as you'll see a luxury hotel, there's a P.I. right next to it. PI type of place? PI type of place. Are they regional? That'd be the Sunshine Inn. Oh, is that what they call them?

Yeah. How do you know that, man? 713-2125790, if you'd like to join our show today. Any of those rules, let me quickly recap them. And if you all can call in and would like to and tell us what you like what you don't like. Higher-seated team gets the possession, the second, third, and fourth. Higher-seated team being allowed to designate one player that's allowed to get seven fouls. That's stupid.

Higher-seated team receives an extra coaches challenge. Higher-seated team gets to put their own floor down. That's a big logistical way. of time or the higher-seated team needs to choose the hotel they want to stay on the Walt Disney property. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-790 with a message here for TGS Insurance. Would you like to save? We're all looking to save money these days. How about that home policy? hadn't thought about it? Well, now you should. I want you to text them word money. M-O-N-E-Y to 24. That's not 24-20, 34, 34-34-34-34. M-N-E-Y to T-G-S.

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118 on the Matt Thomas show. Good afternoon, Houston, Texas. Brendan, are you now the producer of this radio show for good? I think that's the plan. Joe, how's he doing so far? I feel fully confident that I don't need to do this anymore. It's a second day. Generic rotator bumper on the way back?

Check. Teaching him well. That's what we were told to you is. No, that's fine. No. Who's telling you this? I want good old-fashioned rocket. roll.

That came from important people. The kind of music that just moves your soul. Yeah. When I reminisce about the days of old. You want that old time of... That's exactly what I want to. I'm leaving. Don't leave.

You can't leave. You're not supposed to do. You want to get paid. You got to stick around here. I can prep for the 18. Learn from the... Oh! I can blog post.

Yeah. I've already seen you do that already a bunch. Matt, it's fine. It's in the family. That's all that matters. We're a team. The A team. Capital T.

Capital E. capital A, capital M. Team. All right. Y'all know who Joel Sherman is. He's a baseball columnist. It's a smarmy New York Post guy, right? Is he smarmy?

Yeah. Remember, that's the guy that was hanging around around James Click and all that stuff? How do you feel about smirming people, Joe George? They're not great. Why did you retweet his comment then? Because I think baseball is not coming back and I'm upset. He was the one. Remember when James clicked during spring training was like, I don't know, I just got here, you know, I'm trying to figure it out.

Oh, that douche? Yeah. Yeah, I do remember that. Forget smart. He's douchy. Okay. He was the one antagonizing. He's like, are you kidding me?

You're telling me? You could, you might keep people? He was like, I don't know. I just got here and I got to figure out what's going on. But I'm the New York Coast and you don't realize how important baseball riders are. Basically. Baseball writers are the worst. They really are.

Of all the sports, I think. Hands down. Yeah. Let me, can I give you, and I'll give you props, the people out there. Chandler Rome is quirky as hell, but I love him. Brian McTaggart, I've known since we were in college together, so he's my guy. Jake Kaplan? We make fun of him all the time, so he's already in the good club.

Who else do we like? Bob Nightingale, not great phone, but nice guy. Good writer. Doesn't always bet a thousand on his predictions, but that's okay. What about a J.P. Marosi? Oh, yeah. No, douche, because he's come on the show, and he did something a couple of years ago that he really got a lot of heat for. And I said, why don't you come back on the show and let's talk this out or give you a chance to say your peace about it?

And he didn't respond. That's true. I put some in the douche can. Jeff Passon? I like Jeff. Adam Clanton does not. Ross, explain to the audience what you think. Jeff Passon.

Yeah. We discussed this at 1140 today. He's that kid who grew up really nerdy. He probably got made fun of. Maybe it was even bullied a little bit. And he grew up and he's of national prominence now. he relishes every moment of it. I 100% agree with that, Ross.

I don't really have a huge problem with them. I think that's what all, I think you could say that about 90% of baseball writers. Like once they get big, they're the little nerdy kid. They like stats. They like, like, they like baseball. And then once they become a big deal, they kind of go to their head. D's of the week. Of the year.

You are less than the show. I like it. Oh, my bit steal today. Okay. So Joel Sherman. What does Joel have to say? That guy's plugged in. Let me see how many filers he has here.

211,000. Two hundred eleven thousand. Jesus. It's a lot more. Ten times as many as you, Matt. Oh. I have heard greater pessimism today from folks on both sides about MLB launching a season than at any point. People who previously thought the sides would find a way, now expressing at least greater doubt, and then puts in parentheses, often more than that.

Oh, hell no. If you look at what has happened, the MLB sent a proposal. It was awful. The player's response was, we're not sending a counter proposal until we see the books. Then they send one that's more games, way more money. And then now the MLB owners are saying, we're not going to counter. Like the first thing out of their mouths, it feels like is we're not going to counter. It doesn't seem like they want to negotiate.

And these counters are not even close to what. It'd be like, Joe, you and I saying, let's go up dinner together. What do you want? You'd say, I want fish. I'd say, I'd want fajitas. And you'd say, well, let's split the difference and let's go with Indian food. Yeah. That's a terrible example.

But they're not speaking the same language. They're not on the same page. To me, it feels like there's an unwillingness to negotiate. What would happen? So there is the talk that the baseball says, according to our March agreement, we can just trigger 50 game season. What's going to happen if baseball says, We're coming back 50 games season.

They're not going to show up. What do the players do? They just don't show up. They send them a letter. They say, hey, thanks, but no thanks. We're not showing up due to compensation and our safety, blah, blah, blah. And the minor leaguers who are getting paid $400 a week, they show up, and we still have baseball. And it's like the KBO, and we have replacement players.

We won't watch that. I don't think they would do that. I don't think we would either, but I would watch for us Whitley versus whoever some prospects from my other team, though. You'd be the minority on that. They might do it just to satisfy. You can't be, you can't, you can't, you can't go that savage and try to sell it. You can't, the networks aren't going to buy that.

ESPN is going to say, I'm sorry, you can't give me last year's ninth round pick and call a major league. They're not going to, they're not going to pay it. The networks will sue Major League Baseball for that. They're not going to do it. Major League Baseball has no problem paying MLB for Mike Trout and for Jose Altuve. They're not going to pay for Seth Beer, wherever he. He had traded, right?

He's a Phoenix. He's a Diamondback. He's a, I mean, yeah. It's not. No, I agree. Either we're going to see who's out there, or they're going to just say we're going to shut the season down. I think guys, I think guys will play. Honestly, I think if they say-

But Joel Sherman, the baseball god says he's got more pessimism out there. But I think if they demand- Who are sources, Joe George? If they demand, if they say we're playing a 60-game season, full pro-rated pay, I think guys will show up. I think more, I think there will be a lot of guys, yeah, that don't. Blake Snow, what he said is I want my money. Well, if you play a 60 game season, he's going to get 60 games worth the pay.

I mean, in all honestly, the players get what they want, but they're just playing less games and they're going to get less money. In all honestly, what's the difference between the two deals besides the number of actual games? They get their full pro-rated pay, and they play a season. It feels like baseball, the

players do not want any sort of cut besides the proration. That's it. But if they play 60 games and they take the full proration, then, like, that's what they're doing. They're just getting their prorated pay. They're just playing way less games. 60 games instead of 114. And frankly, if they don't want to play, it's selfish.

But if you're making $30 million a year, half of that on an 80 game schedule is 15, right? So let's take another chunk out of that. What's that, Ross? If you're 60 games of 160 games schedule, that's... That would be what if less than a little more than a third. So it'd be what? 10, 11, 12 million?

Yeah, if you actually look at it, like, if they play a 60-game season of pro-erated pay, if you use like that $35 million marker, a guy would make, Max Scherzer would make $10.5 million. On the initial proposal, they were going to play 82 games, and he would have got $7.8 million. So they actually would make more money. By playing less games. By playing less games in this initial deal,

because the owner's angle of this is that every game they play, they lose more money. It'd be 12.9 million full proration of $35,000. So if the Players Association guys says we're not playing 60 at prorated, then it's simply money. Yes. It is. There's no other way around it. Yeah, because that's way more money than the sliding scale thing.

The sliding scale thing, they would make, what, 7.84 or whatever it was? And so that's 12.9. 6, I'm 13 million. Yeah, I mean, like, to me, like, it just makes sense just to play 60 then, just to impose it. You're going to play it. But how are you going to convince them to play 60 at that salary level? They don't want that. They want as much. That's the reason why the baseball union came to and said, well,

while this 82 game sounds really cool, we want 114 instead. Guys, that's the narrative. The players won as much of a full salary as possible, and that's where there is the sticking point. Baseball is saying, we're not going to give you close to what you're making this year. It ain't happening. And whether we cut it, whether we prorate your schedule, you're getting nothing close to your main dollar. And if you can't accept that, we're not playing baseball this year.

And the players are like, we're not going to accept that. You signed us to pay for $25 million. We want as much that $25 as possible. And that's why, guys, we're stuck. Because the players want as much money. The owners are like, we can't afford to pay it. The players are like, yeah, you can. Show us your book.

I mean, this is a awful, search. of the same conversation going in the same and around and around and round and around it's down to money and that's why i think it's just at this point i would rather personally the owners just implement the 60 games and let's just see what happens if you want to make your money this year you play out the 60 games yeah you you play out if you're prorated so the question then becomes how many of a 26 man roster the 26 that we're supposed to be playing would take the money would say you know what this sucks but i'd rather have proration of 60 than nothing at all 128 on the Matt Thomas show.

Now I'm all pissed off. Sorry. Sorry, Matt. Joe, would you bring us back with a delightful segment coming back? Something positive besides the NBA? We'll talk Carol Baskins when we come back. Oh, Carol Baskins it is. Is it Baskin or Baskins?

I don't know. We don't add S to people's names in these parts. Why not? Because Kevin Walters doesn't like that idea. That's over your head, isn't it? Before his time. Before my time. Go look at it up.

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Just say, hey, Google. Play Sports Talk 790 on IHeartRadio. The first show we watched during the pandemic was Tiger King. And there was a sentiment of how in the world did Joe Exotic get any votes for running for president and or governor? I forgot he did that. That was startling event number one. Starling event number two was How in the hell did Carol Baskin get away with killing her husband?

Allegedly. Well, you ready for the update? Do we have a Carol Baskin update on the Matt Thomas show? No. Baskin update. On the Matt Thomas show. Baskin a update.

To jail will she go? It's not bad. Not bad at all, Ross. Joe, would you come up with that? No, I definitely would not. Brandon, would you want to come up with that? No, he's got a shake you know. That's why they pay me the big bucks, the huge bucks.

All right. 713-212-5-790. We got a lot of things going on from what Bill O'Brien said the day to NBA optimism and in MLB pessimism. But now, a Carol Baskin update. Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Kronister has told the local news station WTSP that Lewis's will was forged. The will left his estate estimated to be worth about $10 million. to basket and cut out his family according to Fox News, they had experts, two experts,

determined it's 100% of forgery. So her dead husband, his will, was fake news. Wow. She's got to go to prison. Well, it's crazy. Our jail, excuse me, jail to be tried. Well, if she forged it got $10 million cut out the family, she's 100% going to jail.

And Joe Exotic gets his, it's his zoo back. Well, he's got to get out of jail first. He's in prison. he's got a is he still got the rona no he never had the rona how did that get out that they had the rona no he got quarantined because it was possible

people in the prison people in the jail up in dallas or fort worth or whatever had the rona coronavirus COVID-19 hmm after blake snow star's cove two bro the rona bro

so what are we going to do about this we're gonna we're gonna let this we're gonna we need to talk about this every single day get people talking about it We're definitely going to get another. They're going to have to extend the documentary now. Like they're going to have to go back and make a second season. No, forget the documentary.

Florida, what would be the state patrol or the FBI? Find out what the hell happened. So the will apparently has a bizarre clause that says in the case of Don's appearance, disappearance, Carol gets everything. Any estate planning expert and they will tell you they've never seen a clause like that ever. How about that slimy attorney they was working with? Like she killed the guy and was like, you know what, how I can make sure I can forge his will and be like, if you ever disappears. Somebody had to sell the sardine oil tour.

Somebody had to ahead of time. Carol Baskin doesn't go to the grocery store and say, excuse me, I'm looking to make a special fish dish. I need a little bit of sardine oil to add a little flavor to the top. She could have just bought some cash wherever, I guess. Who sold the sardine oil and who put it on? the shoes. I can buy a 32-ounce can on Amazon for 36 bucks.

But Amazon wasn't around 25 years ago. That's true. I have to sell it somewhere. They've got salmon oil. Look at you just looking at you. You're all in on Amazon. Okay. Now I'm going to have,

now I'm just starting in salmon oil on every website I visit now. Like Joe on TB12. Yeah. Did you know that, Matt? What? We talked about TV 12 for like two weeks in a row. What is TV 12?

Tim 12 is Tom Brady's thing. Tom Brady's workout method. He has like a $400 of home gym that he's trying to sell and it's really just rubber bands. And for a month and a half on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, I got ads trying to get me to buy Tom Brady's home workout equipment. I thought he's trying to sell his car. He's doing that as well. Like $300,000, right? Yeah.

I mean, it's supposed to be, okay, is it escalate or what kind of vehicle is it? Yeah, that Botox is not going to pay for itself. Look at you just throwing that out there with no foundation whatsoever. My foundation is look at his face. Tom was just on the screen and I was like, I agree. Okay, maybe he has that little work done. He's got caveman brow now. They injected caveman brow into his forehead.

I feel like if you're married to a supermodel. Why do you do that? Why did dudes do that, by the way? Married to a supermodel. Because we can figure it out a lot faster. Women are a little bit more of a challenge. Like I got a couple of friends that I really think have had some work done, but I don't have the stones to ask him about it. Yeah, because if you're wrong.

Then you ruin the relationship. Yeah, it's like asking. a lady if she's pregnant and if she's not, you're in trouble. Like, you can't ask someone if they got work. If you get your nose done, it looks different. Can you ask a woman if you said a boobs done or boobs done? It depends on the relationship.

How close are you? Because you might get arrested lawsuit if you ask that question now. Question is, why do women get their boobs done? Because they want guys to look at them. Not always. In generally? Maybe it's because for their self-esteem, Matt. It's not because they want guys to look at them.

It's for their own self-image. Okay. Sometimes you go smaller? How much of that is? 99? Oh, really? So only one? I don't think that's right.

No way! I just talk to 100 women who've had their boobs done. I don't know. If you've had your boobs done, I imagine mostly it's because they're self-conscious about it and they want to do something about it.

They want to be more full-figured. Not because hey, fellas, look at these. Well, maybe there are some people who say that. This is not going to be. Because you weren't looking at them before, right? Yeah, I mean, like when Matt says, Good morning on Fridays. Good morning, strippers?

Yep, those women. Yeah, why don't if we go ask them. Work. Why don't we call... So you're saying it's for a job enhancement? Why don't we call a local establishment and try to get a hold of somebody? Why'd you do it?

We asked James. James? James has changed. It changed into what? He's locked up, right? He's fit. He's in Arizona. He's been hitting a steak buffets.

He's ready to go win an NBA championship so I can get a ring and get on my own fire truck. That's all you're worried about. I think I'm all in on the Rockets when the title is. Good. I hope you are. Kendrick Perkins is. I don't know that's going to happen.

Did y'all have him on the show? live? Yeah. Was he good? I loved it. I thought it was great. He talked actual basketball instead of when basketball was coming back, which was a refreshing. Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Perk, and he was a really good interview. I don't mind him. There's some of those guys in ESPN that are, like, I don't like Paul Pierce

on the air. Just own personal preference. I think he's good. I think Perkins is good, and I like Perkins's perspective because it is, and it's good for us to. I mean, he basically groomed, he said himself, he like he groomed Harden Westbrook. Those guys taught him how to be pros.

Off the floor or on the floor? I don't know what he taught him on the floor. He wasn't the best basketball player. I was going to say, I don't know if Kendrick Perkins would be the guy that I've been like, I learned my NBA game from him. Now, to be a grown-ass man and conduct yourself in a certain way, then maybe sure.

Yeah, I don't know. I just kind of feel like the Rockets. I don't know why. Well, what do you mean why? I think Westbrook, when they come back, I think Westbrook's playing style with the amount of basketball they're going to play. It'd be perfect because America hates a rocket So of all years to win a championship

This would be the one to do it That's what Daryl said He's like every Houston title has an asterisk Let's add another one Let's do it I don't care Banner's gonna be in the rafters Yeah

I get a fire truck I want a fire truck I would love for that it would be You're gonna get on a fire truck Sure why not Or do you want to be on the Budweiser Clydesdales Mm-mm I've never been on the horse Parade

Well Probably no After yesterday there might be 60,000? I mean... I guess we'll have to keep an eye on the numbers. If we all wear masks, then why not? I guess so.

We get social distance between fire trucks. Pirel and masks. Yeah, I think if any of our sports teams won a championship, the Texans, the you know what? Astros and the Rockets. It would be mid-October. The weather should be lovely around here.

You just saw this on the crawl. Why is MLS coming back in three weeks? And the MLS? Well, because there's... People demand to see the Chicago fire. People want to see more zero-zero games. But they're playing in Orlando. There are a lot of zero-zero games

in the MLS. I'll give you that. It's not good soccer. I've seen the MLS standings. Like one team is in like five wins, six losses, and 11 ties. That's not true, is it? Go look it up. Are you fake news, Matt? Yeah. I mean, I might embells a little bit. Excuse me?

Matt overblows things. What do you say? I don't know if that's the right way. Yeah, it's terrible. You're looking for it. Matt's an overblower. 7-1-3-2-1. Nobody has more than two ties currently in the standings. How many games they've. play. Five.

Go look at last year's standings. Okay. I'm going to prove my point. Oh, my God. Go ahead. There are a lot of teams with a lot of draws. Go ahead. Wait, what's the L?

Dude, the New England Revolution finished 11, 12, and 11. What? No disrespect to MLS. Well, actually, there's a lot of disrespect. The MLS is just not good soccer. It just needs to go away. It's not doing anybody any good.

Because all my friends that love soccer don't use MLS as an example. Yes, I tell you that all the time. They're just not good. You want me to watch Bundes League? It's like A ball, honestly. Maybe double A. You hear that soccer fan? That's not me saying that. That's soccer guy saying It is compared to the Premier League or the league. Absolutely. 713-212-790. Probably double A. Don't change. Stay who you are.

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And then we'll recap what's lousy and irritating us as well in sports. Plus, we'll play a few more soundbites of Bill O'Brien. Perhaps, as you said, maybe the most human that Bill has been since he's been the Houston Texans coach, to be fair to say? We'll play the before you come up to top of the hour. Another report, I think this is a Yahoo report that has this on the scheduling?

Or is it? It was Vince Goodwill. Vince Goodwill. Vince Good Times? No, Vince Goodwill. Has he been on the show before? No, but he was a, didn't he say something about Hardin and he had heard from so, oh, he was the one that put out the Chris Paul and James Hardin

hated each other and didn't speak. Oh, that's right. And they did speak, though. They weren't besties. They played cards together. Right. He said they weren't on speaking terms for months. All right.

So Vince Goodwill from Chicago. Oh, here we go. No, there's Chicago guy. Brendan knows him pretty well. He's a Pistons guy. Detroit guy first. Is he a good guy? What is Brendan from Detroit?

Brennan can get him on the show for us? Are we going to do a get-to-know-Branding Joe? I don't book guests for this show. Joe does good. So I don't know what Joe books. So that's a large commitment to make, but I will see what I can do. You should look at the 18 guests. They're pretty good.

Who are they today? Well, today it's Blummer and Chandler. Because Blum had to be... Whoa, really going out there, guys. I don't book those. Yeah. Blum's calling some baseball tournament this weekend. Yeah, it's in Brian.

Like amateur baseball? Yeah, it's a collegiate tournament. It's just like the best college players. Just people are just showing up and they're playing. And you have to pay for it. I won't be paying for it. Like a scouting service? It's, I think you're dying to play sports, so we're dying to charge you money for it.

I mean, isn't that like travel? ball anyways normally. Yeah, it's all for money. Payful volleyball. I mean, it's $60, because Brett Dahl. My buddy's going to call the games, and I'm like, Brad, I'm not paying $60 hours or watch you call a game. 60 bucks? Maybe Blum can give us like a free certificate of some sort. I still wouldn't watch. Okay. So Vince Goodwill

of Detroit fame, who will be a future guest in the show, right, Brandon? I'll work on it. Brendan, Brandon, the same difference. Here we go. Matt will take at least nine months to win. Yeah, there's no chance I get your name right in the first week. No chance whatsoever. I think I told you yesterday. If you got the BR, we're Good. You have a nickname?

You know what? B-Dog? Historically, people like to give me nicknames. I've been Mr. B. No. I've been Lillby. No. I agree.

I have not been Dr. B. Bumby. Bund B. B. B. No, thank you. What's your last name? Riley. I've also been just B. People like to make it as easy as possible. What is the call him?

Just call him B. How about Riles? Riles isn't your best work, Ross. People call Pat Riley Riles. He's B. Just playing B. That's what I've seen. All right. So here we go, guys.

Vince Goodwin. Goodwill. Same day. It doesn't matter. Says the NBA is going to go back to their schedule, whether you were supposed to, who you're supposed to play. With the exception of the teams that aren't going to be in Chicago, in Orlando. The next eight games, the Rockets would have played, would have been at the L.A. Lakers, at Portland.

Cleveland, Scratch. Sacramento, you play. Chicago Scratch Dallas That's your fourth opponent Milwaukee your fifth Indiana your sixth Am I right about that?

Is I got everything right? Yeah So no Cleveland Make sure get all these right And then it would be Detroit Detroit's not in it correct And then Philadelphia So let me make sure we get this exactly right I did a very very poor job of explaining

Here we go Great job Matt It is Lakers, Blazers Kings, Mavericks Bucks, Pacer's, Sixers, and Raptors. Damn. That's intense. No, everyone's schedule is going to be tough, right?

No, all the best teams. Some teams will catch the Pelicans and the signs. It's every team that's at least, every team is at least decent. Yeah, it's one of the 22. You're not getting any bottom feeder eight. Exactly. You're not getting the Warriors. You're not getting the Bulls.

No bobcats. So again, let me repeat it because they don't exist. Six of the eight teams, they were supposed to. play on the road, which meant six NBA cities for me, but that's under here or there. Yes. Sorry, Matt. Six, five diamond stays. Six foot massages.

Six horseradish shrimp cocktails. Yes. Six Chateau-Briand. Just be fancy Matt at home for every other than road game. You should have your wife give you like five diamond room service every game. Would it be too much to ask a rocket to accommodate me in five-star

combinations for other games I do? We'll put you in the four seasons downtown. There's four scenes right next to the arena. There's also the embassy suites right next door. There's the Hyatt down there. Marquis and the Hilton. And the Hyatt. There's five hotels.

The regencies. Yeah, High Regency. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm going to, I'll ask the Rockets. Can you put me up even though I'm really staying in Houston? Yeah, see how that goes. See what Tillman has to say about that. I can say Tillman's hotel.

He's got the Weston down there. Okay. This is a great idea. You're not going to stay for free, though. It doesn't seem like a Tillman. Maybe he had a discount. Let me text him. Lakers, Blazers, Kings.

Mavericks, Bucks, Pacer, Sixers, and Raptors. It's going to be tough. That's going to be hard to move up. It's going to be fun to watch. Great games. No dogs in the group. No. Yeah, I don't know how you're going to move up because they're a game behind of the Jazz. Now, do me a favor, Joe, since you're just sitting there,

give me Utah's next eight. Because the Utah Jazz would not Boyan Bogdano. It's not that he was a huge difference maker, but he is a sharpshooter. He's made them a better basketball team. Okay, the Jazz will play. Because that's who the Rockets would like to jump Correct?

Yeah. The Jazz, their first game would be against the Oklahoma City Thunder, the game that was canceled. Oh, that's right. They got there, and that's when they got the COVID. So it would be Jazz Thunder, and then they would play the Pelicans, the Lakers. The Grizz are in, right? Mm-hmm. Okay.

So it was the Grizzles. Then the Lakers twice. So Thunder, Jazz, Grizzlies, Lakers, Lakers, Spurs. Spurs. Spurs. Mavericks? Is that eight? Yeah, I think so.

I would say they have an easier schedule. So they play the Spurs twice in the Lakers twice? The Spurs want no part of this, by the way. Missy if you're listening, thank you, but you know your team doesn't want to be there. I'm actually surprised Pop is going to have him play. Do you think Pop would even do it? Do you think he'd send Becky Hammond to finish out the year? No, because the last time he missed the game, he chose Tim Duncan instead.

I know. So he'd probably send Tim Duncan. That's actually, you know, he's done that twice. Yeah, not a reigning endorsement. No. That's why we've argued about whether or not I think Becky Hammond will ever be a head coach, because of anybody that was going to give an opportunity for her to be a head coach, it would have been him, and he went with Tim Duncan both times.

That's a shame. I kind of wanted to be the next coach of the Bulls. Really? Yeah. My number one choice, I don't want to be the coach of the Bulls, but if Mike Dantonie is not going to be the coach of the Rocks. Just that's your dirty whore mouth. I'm just, I don't, I guess it's possible, man.

No, it's not possible. I want him to be here. Not impossible. I don't think he would take that job. I think he would want somewhere where he can go win immediately. I think they're close close to what close to 500

no they've got a young roster and that's what he's going to need so is Charlotte but they say Atlanta's got a young roster they suck yeah but they've got a I don't even know who their coaches anymore I always think it's Budenholzer

even though it's not no it's um oh he's been talking he was just on Lloyd Pierce Lloyd Pierce that's right Atlanta's coached Lloyd Pierce yeah and then you got James Borago

in Charlotte and that will conclude today's edition of NBA South Eastern Division talk with those two teams. All right. So you were going to have any piece of cakes. What's the easiest game of that eight?

Sacramento? Probably. How vested is Sacramento going to be? You know Portland's going to be vested because they, because freaking Damien Lerner has been complaining about not going there not to play. And they're getting one of their best players back.

Yeah. So if your Nurkich is going to be able to start playing. And you know what? This is like Mello's last chance to have make the playoffs? Yeah. Last chance for romance? I mean, Mello probably wants LeBron on the first.

first round just because they're friends, like, they'd be good storyline. Put his NBA on the first round. They want Zion. That's why we're doing this. Oh, you think this is the Zion factor. I think it's the only reason why they're not going straight to the playoffs is because I disagree. I think we talked about it yesterday because remember they're putting in, they need 23 teams to vote yes on the board of voters.

Yeah, that's right. So they put in 22 and then you get the warriors to say yes, you're in. And Michael Jordan has already said he doesn't want to come back either. So that's 23 votes. What the hell happened to Michael Jordan? Where's the fire in his belly? Has he just given up as being, I mean, is he just collecting checks for the, for the Hornets? I think he has too many yes men around him.

He doesn't know how to run a basketball league. Don't watch out. Don't let him hear you say that. He's going to cut you off like Barkley. Instead of trashing Jerry Krauss, him and Phil Jackson should have learned something from the guy. How in the world do you trash one of the better general managers in the last quarter century? Especially when you couldn't, you can't do what he did. They still never, no one even called him crumbs.

I don't understand. That's his name. I was more offended by his short-sleeved dress. shirts. I was more offended by his dancing. Oh, that was bad, too. Yeah, first of all, white people shouldn't be dancing, right? I mean, generally, we, no, please.

Seriously, at your wedding, at your wedding, which we were invited to, was there good dancing? Okay. We have a question about this. What? I want to know, are you actually upset? No. It's a bit. No, it's really not.

Deep down inside. Zero, fair. Let's check your dream. Let's check your dream drive. If I have a dream about your wedding tonight, then I'll know it's passive aggressive. You know what? We'll do a renewal of vows one day. That's what I want to hear. 156. It's the final hour of the Matt Thomas show here on Sports Talk 790.

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Rossi, let's go over the good news first. Explain the audience what is happening with the NBA, according to Woj. I'll give you some bad news, and I'm going to give you some comforting news from our head coach of our NFL football team. The NBA is back, baby. Starting July 31st, there will be 22 teams headed into the campus environment at the wide world of sports complex in Orlando, Florida, with eight games of the regular season to be played in expanded playoffs are possible. And then you will also have the latest possible game for game seven of the NBA finals to be on October 12th. And we just found out from Vince Goodwin.

Goodwill That the next That he has blocked Adam Clinton First of all Why? Let's play. Why did he block Adam Clanton? Because he said something about

Hardin and Westbrook Hating each other And Clanton probably destroyed his life And his mentions Pretty much Most people that block Clan It's like it goes It's deserved on both ends

They probably block Clant Because he blew off their mentions But Clanton probably attacked them Because they said something stupid or lied, like that story. Yeah, I remember that going on last year. As I said 100 times, I saw them play cards in the postseason. If you despise someone, you don't play cards with them.

You just don't. You may not be best friends. You may not break bread with each other. You may not go to each other's kids' birthday parties. But if you hate somebody, you're not on the same plane with them. You're not on the same bus with them. You certainly don't share the ball with them. You move along.

And so I thought it was greatly exaggerated, but that's to each his own on that. So that is the good news. And by the way, the latest report says that the NBA schedule will pick up with the next eight games that each team was supposed to play unless that team is not there. We kind of went over the teams that the Rockets would be playing and they'd be all pretty good. In fact, I think their schedule is probably more difficult than, say, the team in front of them, the Utah Jazz, right? Will that be said to say on that one? Just go out and win your games. But there is a chance for the Rockets to move up probably two as high.

as a four seed. Right now they're in the sixth spot. Three seed might be a little more of a challenge. If the playoffs were to begin today, the Rockets would be the six seed on the third seat of Denver Nuggets. We know it two and a half back. That's fine.

I mean, making that up in eight games is going to be tough. You're going to need to go, what? Seven and one while the other team goes four and four? Mm-hmm. I mean, you're going to have a really good run of things. I don't think anything less than six wins is going to keep you out of the six spot, basically. And also, I don't think it's that big of a deal if they move up or down.

I mean, I guess you would, to me, in my mind, I would rather avoid the clippers for as long as possible. Other than that, I really don't care. You're not going to have home court advantage anyways, so there is going to be no home court advantage, unless they adopt one of these wacky ideas. And at that point, it probably won't be anything that's huge. So whatever. If they move up, they move up, I want to see them play well. I want to see them get into shape.

And that's what I'm more concerned about than the seating. Let me ask you this general question about the NBA before we get to some baseball stuff. Are we going to see a dramatically different? Like, will we recognize the Rockets? Will we recognize the Clippers? We recognize the Lakers because it has been so many months since they've played and on top of the fact they're not in their arena. I mean, there is an energy of playing at the Staple Center.

There's an energy of playing a TOTA center. These guys haven't played a neutral site, no fan game since they were 11 years old. Well, they'll have eight gains to adjust to it. It'll matter more in the playoffs. I think we'll get some big upsets. I think there will be one, like, not like eight seed versus one seed kind of a thing, but because... We could see a seven seed win the conference, right? Yeah, I think we'll see at least one major upset somewhere here.

And, like, and maybe that's... I'm still in belief that 13 months and nine days for Kevin Durant has plenty of time to come back. But I still think Kevin Rand is going to play. How sneaky would that be if he got in? Be awesome. You think he is going to play? I think he's going to play. It's 13 months and 9-day.

Like, why not? Even if Kyrie's not healthy. Go out there with Dinwiddie. Go out there and play. I know they don't have a head coach, but... You know what? You could convince me to say 14 minutes a game, it would be fine.

And I'd be fine if John Wall came back and tried to make the playoffs for the Wizards. Like, he said he's 110%. Come back. 110? That's what he said. Wow. He didn't play like two years.

Go ahead and explain why it's impossible to be able to more than 100%. You can't be better than your absolute ceiling. That's not what Lance Armstrong. said, well. Yeah, we also middle-fingered you in the beginning of a show that are nice. I watched that whole thing, by the way, now. I finished it.

All four episodes? Well, there's two episodes. Two, two-hour episodes. Yeah. And four hours. It's okay. It was okay. It wasn't as gripping as like the last dance.

It lost me at the cycling stuff. I didn't know how much of a complete. I mean, I knew he'd went after people who had said things about him, the Floyd Landis's and the masseuse and all that type of stuff. I just didn't know how bad it was. Like, he tried to ruin these people's lives. And here's a guy that should have been applauded not only for what he did in representing our country,

but he also, you know, what was his foundation called? Live strong. Live strong. I mean, millions of people embrace that. And they talk about it. And that's true that you have to look at him, the person, and then him is what he did. It's kind of Lance Armstrong, the cyclist was a cheater and was vicious and treated his teammates poorly and tried to be a killer on the court. Lance Armstrong, the philanthropist, was a great person, and you could still say that

because he saved lives, he changed lives. How much about the ex-wife was in there? The first one, not a whole lot about their breakup or anything. Yeah, and then just a little bit about Cheryl saying, like, I wish I would have got out sooner, but because of the fame and the tabloids, I hung on too long. Oh, so he wanted out faster, huh? That's what he said, yeah. He said he wish you would have got out sooner.

Yeah, all he wanted to do was have some fun. So does she come across as a bad woman, or is he more like, I just didn't have a It's just like a passing comment. They didn't really talk to her. So I was hoping when she came up that they were to bring her up or something. It was weird seeing him talk to the Rice football team. Yes. And didn't know the uniform number of his son, right?

Correct. So funny. Apparently his son had been 48 through high school and then he was 35 in college and he didn't realize he'd change his number. Yeah, I think they had in play. It looked like it was like before like spring ball last year. Okay. All right. So that's the good news in the NBA.

And again, it sounds like July 31st. It has to be ratified tomorrow. by the border governors. And then we should probably get a schedule soon after that, right? I mean, if they're picking up where they left off, all they've got to do now is organize which courts they're on and which games the T and the national folks want. Any concern that Steph Curry and Zach Levine

and these guys are going to make a big stink about how are we getting the rest of our money? No, they're just going to get the money. You think they'll just give it to them? It's like 10 games worth. Yeah, I think they're eight games. How about Rockets, Lakers sounds pretty right for national. television debut? What other

big games could there be on the schedule that are supposed to happen? Thunder Jazz? No. I think that it started the whole virus. That's not going to make a difference of them. Rockets Lakers to open up with a new-looking James Harden. Are you kidding? I like that. That's going to be the first primetime game.

Bucks are supposed to play the Celtics in their first game. Double header. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Let's go. Part of this eight-game thing is to give the regional networks their 70 games. You can't take them or 70 games from them. Yeah.

Could you do an ABC game and then allow the regional markets to carry the game too? I think they're going to have to. They do it for the first round of the playoffs. I still think there's a chance like Bull and the local broadcast is going deeper than the first round. I hope you're right. I like that. I've never called, I've never done a play by the play of a second round game.

Yeah, I would really like to see them go two rounds deep at least. But the problem is if you're TNT, you're like, excuse me. We paid all this money for second round. For exclusivity. Yeah, I'm sorry that Fox Sports Midwest doesn't get their bucks extra games. We're the ones paying you four times what the regionals are paying. What could be some kind of olive branch or incentive that they could give them? I can't even really think of anything in future years or...

No, you have to settle it now. Yeah. The way you do it is you give them... You just don't make it... You give TNT their games and then you also allow the regionals to do it too. that makes that big of a difference. We have a lot of listeners that will say, I like watching the TNT game

because I want to see what, I'll just throw the name, Chris Weber has to say about it, or something that Kevin McHale has to say. I mean, if you're a fan of Bullard and or Ackerman or Worell, you're going to watch them regardless. I mean, the games are not,

but yeah, these games are put in there not only to get them ready, but to get to that TV threshold too. All right, now the negative news. Joel Sherman, who antagonizes new Astros, General Manager James Click in Florida and back in February, says two things an hour ago. MLB has rejected the Union's 114-game regular season proposal.

That's the owners. They plan no counter. They are sitting on essentially implementing, meaning we're going to do this without you, a 48 to 54 game season for full prorated salaries or 82-ish at less than prorated. 82-ish. 82-ish, if less than pro-meaning if you take a discount, we'll play more games, which means ultimately they make more money, but they're going to have to play 24 more games for it. The second tweet, I have heard greater pessimism today from folks on both sides about MLB launching a season than at any point.

People who previously thought the sides would find a way now are expressing at least greater doubt, in parentheses, often more than that. You know how I like to go on Twitter and put What was your favorite Something something something Baseball of 2020 Did you you did that when the first First round of this When the player said they wouldn't

I was half joking at that point Proration Should I double down on that and really say it? I know my favorite moment is What is it? When the Dodgers gave a bunch of good prospects For a player that's never going to play for them That's pretty crazy

If you want to be a negative Nelly What was your favorite George Springer Inaster a moment Ouch We got a lot of them There's so many. But in 2020, not so many. The great baseball argument around these parts will be at some point.

Keep Springer or keep Correa, because you ain't keep them both. Well, Correa is under control. Springer's not. Man, Georgie, don't leave us. Maybe Correa's got a year off for his back. He's good now. And his ribs? And the IH can be a thing of the past. Stay away from the Sucases.

Because, by the way, somebody that now follows Ross believes the no such term as injury prone. Yes. Whatever that fantasy writer's name is, who's a fantasy doctor. Probably looking to make a spot on the Sports RV Saturday show. He's going to come on. I'm sure he is. I'm going to play the bites for you.

Yeah, I don't believe that at all. He says, injury prone is a lie. Dr. Edwin Porras. Doctor of physical therapy, medical analysts for fantasy points.com. All right, 713, 212, 570. Some words of encouragement from the Texans head coach. I don't think Ross would ever use that out of that phrase more than three or four times in the last six years. It's been maybe even, this is probably the first time, man.

Probably the first time, but probably the most encouraging things you've ever heard from the head coach of your football team, not regarding the team itself. We'll hear some of the coming back. 213. Thomas Show, if you'd like to join us, 713-212-5-790. 7-1-2-790 on Twitter at SportsMpte. at SportsRV and at Joe George Radio with a message here at 213 for the Woodhouse Day Spas. You want to relax, you want to enjoy yourself,

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a side that maybe it was new. It was just we never heard it. We haven't seen it before. Yeah. So, you have to applaud it. Look, I don't think he's a very good football coach. He didn't ask my opinion. I don't think he's a good general manager. I think there have been a lot of problems with

football team that are directly related to his decisions. but today we speak of him as a human being and not as a football coach. We speak of him as a leader. And I think today he did himself a lot of good with a heartfelt message about what he has seen with the murder of Mr. Floyd and the subsequent protest and rallies. And what we all need to do is being better when it comes to relations. And he brought up a conversation with the people that he's worked with that's helped come to a realization that a lot of people. that a lot of people in America are hurting.

I've had the privilege of being around some unbelievable players and coaches. I've learned a great deal from all of them as it relates to the Texans. I've learned so much from men like Romeo Cronnell when he talked to me one time about his experiences coaching college football in the South during the late 60s, early 70s. I've learned a lot from Deshawn Watson. You know, when he talks about growing up in Gainesville and why he has, the area code of Gainesville tattooed on his arm. I've learned a lot over the last year of talking to Kenny Stills on why he takes a knee.

I think we all know why Kenny takes a knee and why Eric Reed takes a knee. I've read Brian Flores' statement probably 50 times. I've read Coach Popovich's comments. I've read the comments of President Obama and Bush, true leaders, leaders that have empathy, leaders that have an understanding of what leadership is all about, their statements have resonated the most with me. B-Flow spoke about honesty, transparency, and empathy go a long way, and that we coach a great group of young men who can have a huge impact.

They can. Some of the comments that Bill O'Brien had during a 10-minute kind of, not a lecture, it would be more like a statement, just true feelings. Yeah, it wasn't a conversation. He didn't take questions. It was just him. Yeah, Michael Thomas was supposed to and did speak to the media today about signing with the Texans. And Bill O'Brien had asked to have the first 10 minutes of the Zoom meeting to say what he wanted to say.

How did that react? Here's Michael Thomas on O'Brien's comments. Before we get started, I just wanted to say, I don't even know if coach is still on. Coach, that was encouraging to hear from you to say that, you know, just looking back at 2016, 2017, being in Miami. with Kenny, like to hear a head coach say that, man, you don't know how much value that speech. I just want to say as a man personally, thank you. You hit on all the points, and it means a lot. As a young African-American male in this country, it means a lot.

So thank you, coach. Yeah, having not, I don't know Bill O'Brien on a personal love at all. I don't think he did that to get to win the locker room. But it was an unintended positivity event. I couldn't hurt. I don't know. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't say that was. his only his why he did it that was his motive or anything like that just seemed like he wanted

to say something and I think it was it behooves these organizations and these people and these teams to to say something we've seen teams do it we've seen a lot of coaches do it and here's the thing it don't the hardest thing for me is to see that coaches that aren't doing and are getting destroyed over it yes I don't think it's fair either because again I don't want if if there is a leader, whether it be political leader, business leader or a sports leader, that wants to say something, they're all welcome to do that. And most of the time it's going to pay up. I just don't want it to be, to be, anyone to be forced to do it because they don't feel comfortable saying it or they, or they don't know, don't know what to say. And so I just,

I have respect for, in this particular case for Bill, because I don't think this was said, hey, why don't you before Michael Thomas says something? Why don't you go in there and kind of say how the organization feels? I think my guess is not knowing the insides of it that Bill O'Brien, said, hey, do you mind if I take the first 10 minutes and kind of just explain what I'm thinking about? Because whether or not you want him to be, Bill O'Brien is a leader of young men in that locker room, regardless of the fact they make millions and millions of dollars, regardless if they are men themselves and have kids and families, he still has to lead them. And he is the face of the executive team, the front office, whatever you want to call it, of an NFL franchise. We don't hear from Cal McNair. we're supposed to later today he said on that call.

I have not received anything. Yeah, I haven't heard anything. But he is the face. Jack Easterby doesn't speak. Oh, I'm sure he speaks. He just doesn't speak, does. So it felt right. Yeah, he did a good job.

It felt organic. It felt sincere. And we don't say that a whole lot about Bill O'Brien. I agree. Doesn't mean I'm going to, I think he's a better coach for it today. No. He's a better man for it today. about a better coach. Yeah, good on him for speaking out and saying something and just

seeming genuine. And rather than just putting out a little statement through the team PR or anything like that, he went out there and he talked for 11 minutes. And it's uneasy. These are very, very difficult conversations to have because you feel helpless. Because whether you put something on an Instagram account or your Facebook page, that's symbolism. But you want to make a difference. I want to make a difference for my friends and my children. My daughter and I, Ross, should I spend a half hour talking about this. She doesn't understand why still cities in this country are damaging themselves, and some of them are, not all of them, but some, but there's a lot of things going. It's hard for her to watch the news and figure this all on.

I said, this is because this isn't just because of George Floyd's murder. It's because of a lot of things. It's decades of frustration. Yes. And not equal treatment. And I had exciting. I said, it just doesn't, it's not going to just happen. and then it's just going to go away.

They're not doing this because they wanted to, you know, and so I'm in a tough spot as a father. I just am because I don't know, I don't have the answer for her. I can tell her right from wrong on a lot of things. I don't know how to face because I don't live in other people's shoes. I don't know what the right answer is on these things. So that's why we try to watch as much as we can. We change a channel a lot.

I don't think it's fair to have one particular viewpoint on it. It's why we watch all the TV network shows. It's why we watch all the things. It's where we watched what was happening in down. downtown Houston yesterday. And for the most part, it came across beautifully to have 60,000 people in our city, Ross, where Philadelphia and New York in L.A. have heard such terrible, terrible things. We, for the most part, if you were to grade ourselves on a one to ten of how we behaved ourselves, we were at a 9.95. Very few arrests. And that's why I love living here, because

I always tell people, we are one of the most accepting cities in the country. I go a lot of places around the NBA and college football and whatnot, and there's a lot of places that just aren't as accepting as it gets. We are as accepting as it gets. We are as accepting as it gets. We are as friendly as it gets, except on Twitter. And I thought yesterday a lot of people were genuinely moved to the situation. And again, I don't know if a protest is going to or rally is going to spark a lot of change, but it's going to get people thinking. We're talking about it on the show now. We don't normally do that. We just don't. We just don't. And Bill O'Brien's talking about it.

These things are raising conversations, whether or not people want to believe in that. Yeah. I just wish I had the answers. I think a lot of us do. I wish we could tell everybody, whether it's our church leaders or government leaders, this is how we fix it. Because I don't want our audience, I don't want our citizens to be apprehensive about going to police and trusting that they're going to take care of us and they're going to treat us equally. Because they're not being treated equal. No one's being treated equally right now.

And it's sad. And I don't have an answer. And I wish I did because my children are asking about it. And my guess is I asked my mother about it when it was happening back 25 years ago, 30 years ago. And her parents were being asked about it 50 and 60 years ago. It sucks. And I wish I had a better answer. But it was at least nice for Bill to show a human side for the first time in six years.

Good on him. Now, just make better trades next time. And don't get sideways with your time for senior. That might be asking a little bit too much. Yeah, I wonder what Deionner Hopkins has. to say about his various comments. Has he said anything on Twitter or Instagram about it? The only thing he said on Twitter is that

he says, my big cousin from South Carolina did 10 years in jail for $600 worth of drugs. Let that sink in. That's the real reason I wear number 10. Wow. The things you learn sometimes. But nothing about what Bill O'Brien said. My guess is DeAndre will not really bring up Bill O'Brien

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Now number one for podcasting. 2.32. The Matt Thomas show continues on Sports Talk 790. Rossi, I was trying to find some websites that just got me back in a good mood, and I found one, FBSSchedules.com. I'm a big scheduler guy. Okay. Yeah, keep talking. I got a brain freeze.

Yeah, we got Waterburger brought us some shakes. Thank you very much for that. And so I started following. We'd like to see what's going on with who's playing whom, that kind of thing. They put out a story a couple of months ago about the 19 highest future non-conference football game guarantee. that would take some serious research. Okay. But it just shows you, you know, everybody's worried about whether or not they're going to play games this year.

And who plays who? If you just do, you know, how much will a home gate be affected and whether or not colleges will be able to survive, yada, yada, yada. There are some schools that are paying crazy, crazy, crazy money to host college football games next season. I'll just give you the 2020. The University of Massachusetts plays FCS football, right? The Minutemen. The Minuteman. They play A-10 basketball, and they have some other sports.

But frankly, when you don't have a big stadium and you don't draw a lot of people, you need something else besides your basketball games to generate revenue, right? Yes. UMass is supposed to play at Auburn. November 14th, Auburn is going to pay UMass. $1.9 million to play that football game. Gosh, isn't that startling? Almost two million?

To get an ass whipping. Yeah, to lose about 65 to zero. So two things on that. One, what a halaciously big paycheck. Yes. That's going to fund girls soccer, tennis, all the subfit football FCS football

Frank WendAA football yeah and that also shows you that how much money Auburn makes just to put a game on you could play the blind sisters of the poor and put 85,000 people whatever that Jordan Hare Stadium seats at Auburn

and they're going to make that money up 1.9 million let me give you a few other ones these are just for 2020 September 5th 2020. The University of Texas is playing South Florida. They're cutting a check for that?

$1.9 million. Dang. Come on, man. USF is an incredible enough program. USF could beat you. Not saying it's likely, but it's a could. Charlie Strong's not there anymore, right? I don't think so.

That's a shame. Few other ones to keep note of. 2021. You're fighting Texas Aggies are playing Kent State. They're cutting a check for $1.9 million for Kent State to come to Kyle Field. Other ones that you would care about.

Alabama is going to pay Southern Miss 1.9 in 2021. They're also going to pay New Mexico State 1.9. So they're going to pay in the 2021 season, almost $4 million for two guaranteed wins and two Saldot

crowds in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Man, college athletics is so crazy. That's wild. The number one highest guarantee in college football will be on October the 18th,

2025. The Ohio State Buckeyes will be welcoming I mean, the Yukon Huskies into their stadium. In Ohio Stadium, you know, they draw 100,000 plus. $1.95 million. Do you know what's littered on this list between 1.9 and 1.95? SEC teams, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Texas A&M. These SEC schools are making so much money, Ross, that they don't care who they bring.

in and they are willing to go way north. Like I used to think one point, I used to think anything over $900,000 was crazy. But now those numbers are dwarfed. The University of Michigan is going to pay Hawaii $1.9 million to play a football game. Hell, I'd be the other way. I'd rather pay Hawaii 1.9 to play the game in Hawaii. And they do have, I mean, the SEC teams all have, is it everywhere? I know that four non-conference games.

So they got to pay, probably going to end up paying somebody at least one or two of those or more. Mm-hmm. Alabama doesn't want to play a road non-conference game. They're never going to. They're never going to unless it's one of their non... Like they play Duke in Atlanta. In one of those kickoff classic kind of things. Alabama Duke.

So how does Alabama... Here's the question. How does Alabama pay that if they don't have a full stadium? I don't know. They cancel the contract? What if USF or somebody... What if School X? What if UMass says we can't travel to Alabama?

Oh, they will be. available to. They're not turning down that check. UMass is all in. Okay. What if Alabama says we can't pay you that? That's what I'm saying. What if the state, there's some kind of state mandate anything? I think a contract's a contract. My guess is to answer your question, I think there's probably a, if you're bowing out of the game, you have to pay a certain exit fee. Yeah, there's got to be some kind of, but you can't do it this soon. If you're supposed to play college football this year, you can't, you're going to have to suck it up and pay them that money.

Where's the, ugh. Because if I'm, if I'm a UMass, I'm going to sue the hell out of them. That's not my fault that you can't put 80,000 people. You sign this contract unless there is a

pandemic, some kind of, some kind of crazy ass life, you know, like 9-11, there were teams that weren't traveling for a while because of that. There have been games canceled for hurricanes and natural disasters, so maybe there is some kind of clause relating to that. Maybe not a cancellation, but maybe a reschedule. Yeah, we'll get you next year. But the problem is these smaller Division I schools,

they count that money. They know that after September 30th, we've got a million and a half or two million dollars coming from the University of Alabama. That's going to help fund our department. They have to understand. I mean, there has to be some kind of weather clause, certainly for football. Yeah, you'd have to look at it. You know, that's a good Chris Pesman question because he's involved in some of those things. He's your bud. Get him on here. He's busy.

Why? No sports are happening. You have ages opened up again. That's good. At least for, you know, football and basketball folks. Oh, great. Yeah. So all the armed robbery majors can get back into class.

Brendan, you're going to learn that on this show, we suspend our people on the show for segments for inappropriate comments. Ross, you're suspended for the next two minutes. Okay, good. I'm going to get back to my shade. Yeah. See it. That's the thing. He doesn't really care about the quality of the show.

He's got a free drink in front of me, he wants to knock that back. I feel like he's trying to punish you. Well, he does. He just thinks that saying things like that, but my alma mater is terrible. And it's not true. He's just jealous that he's not tier one.

Harmless teasing, Matthew. I thought he was suspended. Oh, yeah. Sorry. He said harmless teasing. He's back in. I unsuspended myself. We're appealing the suspension.

You know, when you appeal, it goes to the appellate. you can still play when you're under appeal. That's right. So we're appealing. You'll be suspended between, say, 243 and 249. We'll need some independent arbitration on this. Yeah.

All right. All right. So did 1.9, does that blow you away? Yes. That's crazy. I can't believe they're paying a... First of all, Southern Florida, South Florida. Come on, man.

You're going to pay them $2 million to maybe give you a competitive game, although they were 4-8 last year, and Charlie Strong did get fired. How do you turn that down? and how much pressure isn't on term, Herman, not to lose that game. There have been some schools. Appalachian State beat Michigan. Remember many years ago? Troy will go and beat you every once in a while.

Louisiana Monroe beat to Alabama their first, Nick Saban's first year there, right? Yeah. It doesn't happen very often, but it feta completes your college career if you lose one of those games that you're paying a lot of money for like that. I'm trying to think of who did Charlie lose one of those games at Texas like that? They only lost to Kansas That was probably the worst one But that wasn't a pay game So

That's just a crappy conference team God it's Kansas I mean I know Les Miles is there now But are they ever going to be really relevant I mean If they get to seven wins Is that like Is that like their national championship

In Kansas? Yeah If you win seven games at Kansas You're pretty darn good Probably hadn't happened since Gail Sayers was there Well it's probably Mark Mangino Had the one two A couple of good years

Is Gail Sayers a greatest Kansas football player? Yeah I think so. Who's his second? Gail Sayers' his brother? No. Dale Sayers?

Jaime? No. No. Jaime Sayers did not play there. Dale Sayers? No. God, that's really, you know, you can think of the greatest players of various schools.

You can, it takes you five seconds. Kansas, you're like, hmm. Like, is there even a Kansas quarterback that's been good? I know. It's coming through my, uh, no, I can't think of any. I bet there's linemen or whatever at play in the NFL that have been with Kansas, but I can't think of one that would be a, somebody else on Twitter can help us out

who is the best current or past here they're all time first team all Americans since Gail Sayers it's been Bobby Douglas John Zuck is he related to Ron Zuck

David James in 1973 and in 2007 offensive linemen Oh here we go Anthony Collins and then Akip Talib So Akeep Talib is the best Kansas football player in the last 15 years. In the last 50 years.

He gets in trouble a lot, too. Every now and then. We'll shootouts here and there. Not a big deal. He's straightening his life. Bud Adams played quarterback there? O-A. Bud Adams? Not O-A-Bum. What's Bum's?

Kenneth Stanley, Bud Adams. Really? That's him. Junior. He played quarterback at Kansas in 1942. Was he any go with his passing stats? I don't know that. What was this passerating in 1940? I don't know.

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What happened? What is going on with our weather? Is the Hurricane already here? Oh, no. The crystal ball sneak up on us? Oh, we have the official meteorologist Joe George, the Matt Thomas show. Joe, what is our acuweather radar, have to say? Well, it looks like it's awful outside.

Very dark clouds. Probably some rain today. back to you bat first the ball hitting later this week all right time to play are we going to now we're going to play believe it or not eventually and by the way brend that you're in for a treat on that one when we start having prizes again

it's sorry to explain without playing the game I'm like I can't train him on it I feel so no I don't actually I want you to because it'd be fun watching him do it simulated off air yeah I think that's what we're going to have to do off air simulation or just play without prizes excrimmages no people don't care for we have to get prizes we were getting shotouts

for a little while there. It didn't last very long. That's because the shoutouts sucked, not because... Oh, we have Waterberg Coupons. No, we don't. No, we don't. No, we don't. They're going to Thomas Wallets where they're going. I might go take one, use one right now. Are we playing baseball in 2020? Rossville are out your first. Look at you, Hedgerald.

Yes. I hate this question. I'll skip. Brendan, you're not part of the family. I didn't ask you. Brendan, you're not part of the show. Wow. Brendan are we playing baseball in 2020? Hard no.

I don't think so. Hard no. Hard no. Kick him out. You're out. Joe, walking back. Are we playing baseball in 2020?

Are you sure? 50 game season. 60 game season. Sure. Expanding playoffs. Very gimmicky. Well, just enjoy that. It's back on television.

The last moment was it George Springer's career in Houston. Remember I asked y'all, was it a Monday night meeting or just in general? I said what was the biggest crowd at minimum? Parking me this year? Could be zero. I said... No, you said... You said NRG. Well, that's right. Okay. But Governor added to 25% capacity...

But just because Major League Baseball... Because Governor says it doesn't mean Major League Baseball is going to do it. I think they will. It's just more revenue. I thought they wanted to do something like if all 30 teams couldn't have it, then none would or something. Oh, maybe that's true. Okay, so let's do this. Over Under and the biggest card at Minutemate Made Park this year. I'll set the Over Under at 1.

I'm going to take the over because I believe the World Series. series and part of the playoffs will be played in Houston. Hmm. Neutral site. Oh, you see, you're being on this neutral site thing. No, the players have said they'll play until October 31st. So if they're going to play that long, we have to go neutral side. Nobody said that.

Isn't the normal World Series till October 31st? No, it's over. I mean, like, well, yeah, but if the playoffs are starting October 31st. And there's expanded playoffs. Oh, you're starting at. We're not crowning a champion until probably after Thanksgiving. Yeah, you have to play neutral site games. You can't play in New York.

You can't play in Chicago. You can't play in Minnesota. You're to realize in the world in which we live in, we've been sucking without sports, we're going to be, not to use this term here that we can't use anymore, we're in a buffet. We're going to be a buffet of sports. No, we're going to have, the game seven date would potentially be a double header. The game seven, the NBA finals, and I believe Drew Brees and the Saints versus Justin

Herbert and the Chargers are on Monday football. Well. That's week five. Who's going to... Please tell me that a Chargers Saints game is going to draw a higher ratings than a game seven of an NBA finals. You're high. You are... No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no. Sunday Day football has been beating the World Series for years. Years. Game seven of the NBA finals will beat a Monday night Chargers Saints game. No, I don't know about that either. I will bet you. What do you want? We're going to bet.

We're going to bet down right now. Okay, let's do it. It's got to be game seven. Yeah, game seven. Game seven, NBA Saints. finals versus Monday night football. Monday night football is better. What do you want? Let's make

the bet now and we'll talk about the parameters later. We'll do it tomorrow. Now, am I willing to say game one? No, I'm not. I'm talking about the ultimate last final, final game of an NBA season. Yes. Game 7 is not outdrawing Chargers and Saints. You're saying it is. I am saying that's right.

Yeah. And you're going... Nobody cares for the L.A. Chargers. They're the most nondescript NFL team out there. Monday Night Football is king. No, no, because here's the thing. I got something for you. Game 7 is going to be on ABC, bra. And that means that's more television sets than ESPN could even dream of having.

I'll take Monday Night Football. We're going full steak dinner. Here we go. Sure. With the trimmings. I'm good with that. I'm talking about a salad. Yep.

A side. Sure. Warm break bread. Sure. And a dessert. And no alcohol. I'll throw like, what about like a $50 or less bottle of wine? No.

We're at a nice restaurant. We're going to buy, another bottle to be in our 50s. We're going to go to Morton's here. I'm going to get you the ribeye. It's going to be a good piece of steak. All right, let's do it. I'm in. You're losing this one.

Yeah, I'm looking at the ratings. Years past. I'm getting ABC. You're getting ESPN. No disrespect to ESPN, but I'm getting ABC. I'm winning. Nope. Oh, you're.

By way, we've got it. We got like eight tornadoes out here. Got to me, what the hell is going on. If you wanted to do game one, you'd have a shot. Game 1 ESPN. Game 7s are a little much. Game 7. An NBC game is going to beat an ABC, is going to beat a cable game.

We'll see. No, no. We'll see. Yeah, give me crappy NFL football against game one NBA finals. If the game one's on the cable, yeah. Follow question. Just out of curiosity. They're going to start showing more games on ABC this year for Monday night football.

So if ABCs are agreeing to that partnership, like week two chiefs ravens on Monday night football is on ABC and on ESPN, would ES, would they choose Monday Night Football themselves? No, all the NBA final games are going to be on ABC. Okay. Book it. All right, well, I'll take Monday night football.

They're going to lose. And I like my rabbi, medium. Not medium. What's your new one? And you're calling it now? There's no new one. Yeah, there is. What's the one you ordered later night when you order steak?

I got a rare plus. That's rare plus. Rare plus. You made that out. That's medium rare. It's in between rare and reading medium rare. No, there's no such thing in between.

Google Rare Plus. No, I don't want to know. Educate yourself. I'm not going with this millennial rare plus crap. Educate yourself. The rules go rare, medium rare, medium, medium well, well, that's it. Rare plus is a fancy mat order. Come on, Ross.

So what? It exists, though. Rare plus. That's medium rare. Where did you get to? Let's go to what we were at. Vic and Anthony's? Yeah.

I owed him a steak dinner. for one of the many bets I should have won. One of the, the only bet you've won in 10 years. Well, the good thing you don't bet on the Fantasy 5 because you rarely win that one. I'm going for three in a row. You are. Three in a row. No, I got Wetsons' vote, which is worth 15, so. All right, let me get you

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